Part 2 of 2: Robin Dreeke | “Chaos, Deception, and the True Nature of Trust”

Part 2 of 2: Robin Dreeke | “Chaos, Deception, and the True Nature of Trust”

🔥 What if the people you mistrust… are actually the most honest ones in the room?

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📝 Show Notes: Most of us think we’re good judges of character.
We trust who “feels” right and doubt those who make us uncomfortable.
But what if everything you thought you knew about trust… was wrong?

Welcome back to The Dov Baron Show — where the masks come off and the truth takes the mic.

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In Part 2 of this mind-bending conversation, Dov dives even deeper with Robin Dreeke, former head of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program — a man who didn’t just study human behavior… he used it to recruit spies and predict betrayal in life-or-death scenarios.

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But today, Robin isn’t talking about catching spies.
He’s revealing the truth about your leadership blind spots — and why your failure to be present is killing trust faster than any lie ever could.

🎯 Inside this episode:

• Why charismatic people often leak deception — and how to detect it without turning into a cynic

• The real reason chaos dominates some organizations (and why “predictable chaos” is a power move)

• The FBI-tested definition of trust that shatters traditional leadership narratives

• How to recognize behavioral leakage and why most leaders ignore it until it’s too late

• The single most dangerous myth about likability in leadership

• Why "being present" isn't a soft skill — it's a survival skill

• Robin’s personal story of internal FBI politics, gaslighting, and what to do when your leaders are operating in chaos

• The essential role of a “loving critic” in high-stakes leadership

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“Trust isn’t about liking someone. It’s about understanding them.” 

~ Robin Dreeke

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If you’ve ever felt like your workplace is drowning in mixed signals, or you’re leading while second-guessing everyone (including yourself)… this episode is your new playbook.

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🎯 Hit subscribe.
💥 Share with a leader who’s running on instinct instead of insight.
🔍 And stay curious, because trust isn’t a vibe — it’s a science.

 

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🔗 Connect with Robin Dreeke:

🌐 robindreeke.com

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FBI trust expert, behavioral analysis, building trust in leadership, deception detection, psychological safety, emotional intelligence, ch