September 2, 2025 • 65 mins
The humble mineral iodine might be the most overlooked yet critical component of your health puzzle. Dr. Lodi takes us on a deep dive into why this forgotten element deserves our attention, explaining how iodine deficiency undermines thyroid function and consequently weakens our immune system.
Most of us are walking around with suboptimal iodine levels due to depleted soils and diets lacking in sea vegetables. The consequences? Our thyroid glands substitute other halogens like fluoride and bromide when creating hormones, resulting in molecules that measure as T3 and T4 but lack the biological activity necessary for health. "If you don't have a healthy thyroid, you won't have a healthy immune system. It's impossible," Dr. Lodi emphasizes, highlighting the fundamental connection between these systems.
Restoring proper iodine levels requires a thoughtful approach - typically 25mg daily for at least a year. This restoration process creates a paradox where supplementing with iodine can temporarily suppress thyroid function, requiring simultaneous support with natural thyroid hormones. The medical establishment's puzzling "iodophobia" has created unnecessary fear around therapeutic iodine use, despite its historical safety record when properly administered.
Beyond iodine, Dr. Lodi addresses practical questions about parasite protocols, vertigo treatment, and the mechanics of ketogenic diets. He explains the difference between dizziness caused by dehydration versus inner ear disturbances, offering specific solutions for each. His discussion of chronically fermenting cells (CFCs) provides a refreshing perspective on cancer, emphasizing the body's innate healing capabilities when properly supported.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If anyone knows what's going on in the world,
tell me.
Buenos noches, saludos.
And so, anyway, we're in theshow.
So, anyway, I'd just like tomention I just saw someone had
sent a message.
Real quick I'm going to easilyanswer.
This Is EBV Epstein-Barr virus,from a mosquito parasite.
(00:25):
No, the general rhetoric thatwe're told by the Rockefellerian
group, as the Rocky and hisboys, is that it comes from
intimate contact, kissing,sexual activity, or just being
very close to somebody, andfirst of all, do viruses exist?
This is the first question.
(00:45):
Being very close to somebodyand first of all, do viruses
exist?
This is the first question.
The second question is, ifthey're not, if whatever's
happening to us is not viral,what is happening to us?
So that's a whole whole storythat we need to get into, but
not right away, not today.
So let's do this, let's look atand all of these people are
waving Fantastic man, let's findour questions.
(01:08):
Okay, and go there and getstarted.
Okay, so questions will beunder questions.
Are they in the team?
There we go.
That's the link for thequestion.
Okay, there we go.
Cool, here we are.
Sorry, we're in that delay.
Come on, it's working.
Okay, there we go.
We're gonna get rid of this oneanyway.
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Um, you know, I wanted tocomment on, uh, a little bit on,
um, where'd it go?
Iodine, let me just comment onthat really quickly because uh
and I'll I'll make a, a, um, ashort video, if I can.
How do you make a short videoon something that's so
complicated?
It's very difficult.
But anyway, iodide is like theforgotten mineral, and it's not
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a mineral in the sense thatsodium and magnesium are
minerals, because by definitionthey're called transition metals
and they carry a plus charge.
Of course they can't remain inthat position at all, so they
immediately have a negativecharge to hang out with.
Sodium gets chloride, which isnegative, and magnesium can get
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chloride.
They don't need two chlorides.
They can get oxide or bromideor fluoride.
They can all act kind of thesame.
But iodide is at the bottom ofthe largest of the halogens and
the halogens are bromide,fluoride and chloride.
(02:34):
Chloride, fluoride and bromideand then iodide.
They all have the same activity, they're just larger.
Each one is larger than theother.
That's one of the problems withour thyroid is that the thyroid
gland, when it's producingthyroid if there are no iodides
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around which happens quite oftensince we live in an
iodide-deficient soil and wedon't eat seaweed.
So unless you're japanese andyou need a traditional diet with
a lot of seaweed, you won't begetting iodine.
You don't get the iodine as youcannot make t3 and t4 because
they rely on iodide, and so whatthey'll use is something that's
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just as available or just as athat fits chemically for that
reaction, and that would be thebromine, fluoride or chlorine.
So you'll have your T3, maybeone, if you're lucky, one iodide
and maybe two fluorides orbromine and the fluoride and the
T4 might have two chlorides andthe fluoride and the bromine or
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whatever.
So they still measure as T4 andT3, but they don't have the
activity because the wholeideand the bromide or whatever.
So they still measure as T4 andT3, but they don't have the
activity, because the whole ideaof the thyroid hormone is to
deliver iodine to the cells,which has multiple effects so,
and one of them is control overthe immune system.
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So if you don't have a healthythyroid, you won't have a
healthy immune system.
It's impossible, but I don'tknow if this has been talked
about, but I wrote about ityears ago, so I'm going to
rewrite this paper on it.
So you should understand it,because it's the most really
forgotten.
And in fact there was a paperwritten called Iodophobia
Medical Iodophobia, because forsome reason doctors are afraid
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to use it and that has to do athyroid function and all that.
So we'll go into that with thepaper.
But just to let you know that Idied.
It's very important.
It must be restored to healthylevels and that takes at least a
year not taking 25 milligrams aday.
But then you're getting moreiodine in your system than would
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be necessary for an activemaintenance.
An active maintenance would be12.5 milligrams but you're not
at maintenance yet because youhaven't reestablished or
established for the first timehealthy levels of iodine.
So for that reason you'll betaking 25 milligrams a day, just
so that it doesn't take for thenext 10 years and that can and
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will suppress thyroid hormoneoutput.
So, being aware of that andbeing aware that you've got two
simultaneous goals Number one isto restore healthy thyroid
function, which requires thatyou fill up the deficit of
iodine, because that's part ofthe final molecule in C3 and C4.
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And secondly, it is to maintaina healthy thyroid level
functioning while you are busyrestoring iodine supplies to the
body.
And you can only do that bytaking something exogenous and
outside a thyroid, and I alwaysuse natural thyroid hormones.
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Natural because they have T3and T4 in them and that they're
derived from animals.
So those of us who arephilosophically or morally or
ethically opposed to killinganimals will probably have a
hard time taking these.
They're called glandularsbecause they come from the
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glands of either sheep or cows Ithink that's it sheep or cows,
and pigs, I'm sorry, are theymight come from other mammals,
which actually illustrates oneimportant fact, and that is the
functioning of the human body.
Its structure and functioning,its anatomy and physiology is
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very similar to all mammals,producing the same kinds of
hormones.
Hormones are the way the bodytalks to itself, same with
peptides and all the otherproducts, which is why, for
example, when insulin was firstdiscovered, they were using
insulin from a pig, and so itwas.
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In order to extract it, youhave to remove the thyroid
glands of a pig or whateveranimal.
So that's the ethical dilemma.
So, if that is a real problemfor you, the choice is getting
the synthetic versions of boththe T4 and T3 and then putting
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them in the proper ratio.
And the T4 is easily obtained,and it's the only thing that
most doctors ever prescription,they ever write for when it
comes to thyroid, levothyroxine.
Now, when it comes to thyroid, Idon't know.
Let me just review this for you.
When it comes to thyroid, theactive aspect is the T3.
The T4 is inactive, in otherwords, it's a precursor,
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pre-hormone, and it circulatesand when a cell needs it it'll
grab it.
Take off one of the iodines, itgoes from T4 to T3.
Now it fits.
That's how that works.
That's why you need to takeiodine, in spite of the fact
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that it will probably lower yourthyroid output and make you
more hypothyroid than youalready were.
And the way you combat this isby doing your basal body
temperatures in the morning.
That's, to take the appropriatetimes for you to increase or
not increase, whether you'retaking enough thyroid hormone or
not, enough thyroid hormone ornot.
(08:30):
Okay, the thyroid hormone thatwe usually look at are the, the
porcine ones from the us, whichare westroid and uh, well, no,
anyway.
Uh, from new zealand it'sthyrovans, but basically these
are glandulars, as we said.
All All right.
So come on.
Where are we?
Come on there, we are Very good, all right.
So now someone has mentionedthey take a nascent thyroid.
(08:54):
That usually refers to only theiodine.
So remember the Lugol's in 1820, I think it was Armour.
That's right, sandy, thank you.
So it's Armourour, that's right, thank you.
So it's Armour.
Thyroid, westeroid, thyrovansall right, are the main ones.
(09:14):
I'm sure there's otherglandulars.
They provide you the T3 and theT4.
Now, yeah, lugol, who was achemist in 1820, divided Lugol's
solution and the problem was is, in order to make the solution,
you have to have double theamount of iodide than iodine,
because iodide is water-solubleand iodine is not.
So what happens is that, if youwere to Because you really need
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more iodine than iodine,because iodine, which is just
molecular iodine, which is twoof them together actually what
that does is destroy CFCs.
It destroys bacteria.
It also is a cofactor involvedin healthy estrogen metabolism,
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which is very important.
So, yeah, that's it.
So that's why you'd use Lugol's, so you can get both.
Now you're not going to getthem in the proper solution
because, in order to sustainsolution, you have more iodide
because it's water soluble,right?
So that means that Lugol's willbe giving you more iodide to
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the thyroid, causing it todecrease its output.
If we could somehow find a wayto reverse it so that there was
more iodine than iodide, itwould be great.
It's not chemically possible inthat form.
Let's get on with the show.
All right so, as we mentionedevery week.
All right so, as we mentionedevery week, just a quick
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orientation, if you're new,first time watching this, is
that we don't use the word theastrological sign for people who
have tumors.
We refer to that situation asexactly what it is, which is
chronically fermenting cells.
So if you have chronicallyfermenting cells in the breast,
pancreas, colon, liver, brain,they're chronically fermenting
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cells.
And we use that word becausethat word is helpful, makes us
feel good, gives us a purpose, areason, a way out of this
dilemma, and because you knowwhat it is, you know how to deal
, deal with it.
So it does all sorts ofwonderful things like that.
So, anyway, um, and, and if youcurrently have cfcs, then our
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an oasis of healing in arizona,is that we're in our 20th year
now, really wonderful.
It's not because I'm involvedwith it and you know I I founded
it, but because, um, it itlooks at all aspects of human
nature that need to be dealtwith when you're ill with
anything, and that's the body,mind, spirit, continuum.
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You can't ignore any.
Excellent, so you can call themAll right.
So now and then, as you all know, we have three groups called
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What is it called?
The Dr Lodi community?
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One is the health and healinggroup.
It was formerly called InnerCircle but we've changed it.
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The Inner Circle sounded goodat first but it sounded sort of
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So if you're in any group thehealth and healing group,
parasite group or CFC groups thecommunity that forms because
you have access, there's atelegram chat group that's
private to everyone.
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Who's members and what's sharedon there is amazing and most
people that are on there havebeen dealing with whatever
situation it is parasites orCFCs or whatever for quite a
long time and they've got lotsof experience and they share
that experience.
So it's amazing what goes onthere and it means that you have
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You have a lot of people toconsult and trust.
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So there's those three groupsand you can just go to our
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We're able to stream on ticktock and for all the rest it's
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There's no md at the end.
It's only for the x and tic tocthat they have dr lodi md.
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Thomas lodi, md x and tixcom,dr Lodi, thomas Lodi.
All right, and you can also goto the website and stream, which
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So let's check out thequestions here.
For those of you who have beenwatching the human diet webinar
series, we had to postpone lastFriday's, which would have been
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research say, until this comingFriday.
My Friday is your Thursday,sorry, your Thursday afternoon
and what we're saying is whatdoes the research say?
What your doctor says, you knowwhat your friends say, you know
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We're going to have videos ofsummarizing what's available,
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Because a lot of people weren'ttaking advantage of the fact
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Soon to be three days a week,and that's where we can have
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You can ask direct questionsand it's really worthwhile.
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And then, of course, we alreadyhave, as you know, a movement
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He's a kinesiologist.
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And then we have Donna, who'sbeen eating uncooked vegan food
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How to be happy about it.
It's got to taste good, periodAnyway.
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So I hope to see you all there,because that's how we can
interact.
See the format on Sunday night.
I can't interact, I wind updoing it anyway.
There's no fear of.
I don't make it at all, unlessyou have a specific allergy or
something, something to it.
All right, so here we are, sohere we go.
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Let's get our questions.
First question from CharlieRegarding breast CFCs.
Greetings, doc.
Is it better to do a detoxbefore going on a robust three
to seven day fast?
Is it okay to sleep with onionbeneath the feet at night during
a natural detox protocol orwhile fasting?
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Can ivermectin be taken duringa protocol, a detox protocol,
and what is your recommendeddose for taking fenbendazole and
ivermectin?
All right, so prettyinteresting questions.
So, really, the first questionis is it better to do a detox
before going on a robust threeto seven day water I'm imagining
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you mean water fast.
Yes, yes, yes, if you could dothat, that would be good.
But if you can't do it that waybecause of whatever reasons,
it's okay.
Yes, if you could do that, thatwould be good.
But if you can't do it that way, because of whatever reasons,
it's okay.
But you know that would beideal.
And of course, if you're doinga water fast, a true fast, then
you don't really take anysupplements or medicines unless
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they're a medicine that you haveto take, in other words, if you
can't just abruptly stop them.
So if that's the kind ofmedicine, you'd have to still
take it.
But it's very different thandoing a juice cleanse where you
can still take the ivermectinand fibmenzo and whatever all
the other antiparasitic.
So the other one was is it okayto sleep with onions beneath the
feet and can ivermectin betaken during a detox protocol?
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Well, the problem withpregnancy is that the only study
on animals, because it would beunethical to give a pregnant
woman something potentiallydangerous, just get information
that it's dangerous and thatwould actually make it unethical
as well.
So the question was so theother one was can ivermectin be
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taken during a pregnancyprotocol, and is it recommended
to take fedbendazole along withivermectin?
So yes, as we've mentioned manytimes the anti-worms, which are
the anti-albuminics the triadthat I think works very well is
ivermectin, and one of thebenzobidazole is benvendazole or
bevendazole or albendazole.
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The third one which I thinkshould be my close in mind
unless you've got specificsituation where you think you
have a flat worm in your liverfrom eating raw fish in
southeast asia, then you'll wantto change to prasikantel, so
that's the worms, and then theprotozoa can be kept at bay, not
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causing problems, by using atindazole metronidazole but
tindazole is better in thisregard.
But also there's a drug callednidazoxonide which goes by the
brand name of Lilialina, andit's an amazing drug because it
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actually eliminates CFCs, but italso is both worm and
antiprotozoal, so very important.
And so the doses can bedepending on weight and age and
all that.
But usually for an adult,ivermectin is 12 milligrams
three times a day, medbenadol is222 milligrams three times a
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day, or the medbenadol is 500milligrams three times a day,
and the niclosamide is 500milligrams three times a day and
the nitoxanide is 500milligrams three times a day and
the nidazoxam, nidoxanide,nidoxanide is 500 milligrams
three times a day as well.
And then there are antifungalsincluded which are fluconazole
and or nystatin, and fluconazolecan be 103 times a day, or it
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could be.
There's two different ways.
The doctors write it in the US150 or 200 milligrams, so the
nice statin would be 500,000units because it's in units
three times a day.
So you've got that.
No, it's recommended whenyou're doing a water test not to
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be doing anything other thannot to be taking anything other
than water and the prescribedmedicines.
That would cause you damage ifyou quit them abruptly and
didn't wean.
So hold on a moment, let mejust go flag that up.
So the next question is fromAnnette.
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She goes hi, stop the meds, asinstructed to take an antifungal
by day three.
Flare-up was up so intense Ihad to start the meds again.
Can you recommend a rotationprotocol so parasites are never
without meds, or a five-to-twoschedule each week because of
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the adverse reaction to athree-day, three days off?
Well, in your situation, annette, that doesn't happen with
everyone.
Most people can take a week offand it's helpful in biology
because we always want to giveour bodies a break from whatever
we're introducing to it,because in nature, nothing is
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every day except breathing.
But I mean nothing is everydayexcept breathing.
But I mean nothing is everyday.
Nothing is available everyday,which is why animals don't eat
all the time and they won't eatuntil they find food.
They run into food that fitswithin their instinctual
parameters.
Alright, so for you.
Apparently, if you go more thantwo days, you can do two days,
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but if you go more than two days, you can do two days.
If you go more than two days,then you wind up getting an
extreme flare-up, and so I don'tknow, I wonder what the
flare-up was.
But keep in mind that youshould be doing the liver detox
protocol right that we've talkedabout, and let me show you one
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other thing here.
There it is, let's see.
No, that's not.
I'm not going to spend timelooking for it, I can't find it.
And so what I was looking foris, during the whole period you
should be taking the liver detoxprotocol, and the reason for
this is that each of thesemedications all require very
similar actions by the liver toneutralize them, which means
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your liver is working on four orfive medications daily, right,
and so it can get tired orexhausted in one area, and then
you see a flare-up of enzymes.
And don't worry about the liver, because the liver is the most
resilient and restorative organin our body.
You can donate two-thirds of itto a sibling and it'll grow
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back.
No other organ does that.
It's very similar to a lizard'stail, so it's a very
regenerative organ.
It doesn't mean it should beabused, it just means that it's
a very regenerative organ, notlike our kidneys or our stomach
or lungs.
So that's that.
And here's Don.
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Don says I'm 87 and in goodhealth, other than the return of
my prostate CFC after 10 years.
I feel that I'm doing well formy age and I am active.
I can do most things that I doat 70.
My wife and I are stilltogether after six, five years
Fantastic.
I am not left with many optionsto treat the CFCs.
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My last PFC was TSA was 0.20.
I mentioned an holistic approachlike FedBen or Ivermectin, but
need a protocol.
Can you help me?
Absolutely.
If you go to our website,drlodycom drlodycom and I think
it would be good for you to jointhe CFC group which would deal
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specifically with that you and Ican speak twice a week because
you'll have access to all themeetings and we can talk about
your current situation, theprogress and all that.
So that's a very, veryimportant way to do it.
In fact it's the only way.
But your PSA was 0.20, so itsounds like you must have had a
surgery.
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Anyway, that's how you do it.
So please Don join.
There's a parasite group inthere, all right.
So this is Laura, and Laura saysI want all the details on
parasite detox and heavy-mandetox for me and my children.
Well, all the details.
You can get all the details ifyou join the Health and Healing
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Group.
But short of that, the onlydifference between adults and
children are the amounts youwould use if you were using, for
example, part of your detoxprotocol included a parasite
cleanse and the antifarasiticmedication, right, which I just
went over, actually, with theformer question.
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But the other thing is thatwith children the dosages would
be different because it goes bybody weight and all these drugs
are actually safe for children.
They're given to childrenworldwide because the conditions
that we've identified, such asroundworm and flatworms and all
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the worms that are well-known,pinworms and all that are
worldwide, and so thesemedications are taken for people
all over the world.
And then there are specific andunusual parasites, like
onchoceriosis, where it getsinto the eye, or you take
ivermectin.
So it really depends on whatyou've been, laura.
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So what's been your recentexposure and are there any
symptoms, et cetera, to reallycome up with appropriate
protocol, any symptoms, etcetera, to really come up with
appropriate protocol.
And then, as I said for thechildren, we'd have to decrease
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for body weight.
But so with the parasite detoxit's on the website but also the
heavy metal detox, the way youdetox from it is you stop eating
them.
So you've got to watch out forthe food that you're eating.
And then the way that weeliminate it on purpose, not by
some bodily mechanism, isthrough different chelation
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agents.
So there is the calciumdisodium, edta, or just the EDTA
, and a lot of times the EDTA isexchanged for calcium EDTA or
just the EDTA, and a lot oftimes the EDTA is exchanged for
calcium EDTA, which is a goodidea in terms of its ability to
give it fast and all that, andit's equally as effective in
removing the metals.
But you don't get the extrabenefit of really adjusting the
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thyroid, because it naturallyadjusts the thyroid.
So, laura, yeah, someone wasmaking my attention, bringing my
attention to All right, verygood.
Okay.
Now this is a question from Jenand it's called Alternative CFC
Therapies.
Have you heard of Dr PatSoon-Shiong?
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He's a former UCLA professorand medical doctor and a CFC
researcher for over 30 years.
He has a theory that people whocannot clear the COVID virus or
vaccine develop long COVID,which suppresses our immune
system, which leads to CFCs.
He said it destroys killerT-cells and other protective
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measures in our body.
He has developed BioShieldwhich clears the virus and puts
it on the CTC and other things.
I listen to him speak on adaily show and other shows.
He talks exactly like you, drLodi, in regards to cancer and
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the standard of care.
He is a technician withglioblastoma, hiv and other
diseases with great success.
All right, so well.
Sounds amazing.
I don't know the fellow, but itsounds amazing.
However and this is a verypowerful however I don't think
you would have to worry aboutclearing the COVID vaccine
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because I don't think it existsthe COVID bacteria virus and, of
course, the vaccine anddeveloping long COVID.
We found out that the onlypeople that develop what they're
calling long COVID are peoplewho have been vaccinated or
injected.
So that's what we're finding.
So in that regard, I'm not sure, maybe his explanation would be
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a little bit different on whathe's doing, so we'd have to hear
that.
But it's usually a simple thingthat you do once or twice a
week or something, but it'squite complicated to understand.
So I'd love to hear that.
So right, if you can actually so, if you actually cause any
damage to the immune system,you're actually helping the CFC.
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So it's a very you know whetheror not there's theories, and
theories are opinions.
People don't have the knowledge, because if you have the
knowledge about something, it'sno longer a theory.
So but what I love about it isthat it actually does restore
the strength of our immunesystem.
So it is interesting that he'sinjecting people daily with
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glioblastomas, hiv and otherswith great success.
So I'd love to find out whatthat is.
I would definitely look up DrPat Sun Shion.
It sounds pretty amazing.
So here's a new name SNF, or aname, not a new name.
She says Hi, I stopped meds asit constructed to take FN31.
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That day follows by day three.
Flare-up was so intense.
This is very similar.
So can you recommend a supportor rotation schedule so
parasites are never missed on a5-2 schedule because of the
severe adverse reaction to threedays off of the drugs?
That's really odd, becauseprior to taking the drugs were
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things very severe and then.
So anyway, annette, I hopeyou're on the Parasite Telegram
group so we can talk directly,we can interact.
So if not, join it, becauseyou've already paid for it by
being a member, so it's a free,definitely get on that.
So here are some comments ondifferent platforms.
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Is creatine good for women, forstrength, strength in bones,
health?
Or if you've had CFCs, thankyou.
Well, creatine is a naturalproduct that we produce for that
purpose.
The answer is no.
It's not a dangerous ordeleterious thing.
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It's a pretty natural substance.
And this is from Charlie.
He says greetings.
What's the discount code forthe CDC group?
Oh, wow, I'm not sure of thediscount code for the CDC group.
Hopefully someone's going topost it soon.
So now that you've asked thisquite formally, I hope it gets
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answered on our chat, because Idon't personally know that this
kind of thing.
I'm not sure if it works.
All right, so now are we?
The next person would be Viadaand her question is hello, the
US tells I've got polyps andgallbladder.
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I would like to takeanti-parasitic treatment.
I've already got the homeivermectin and Vermox.
I still don't have Prasequant.
My family doctor wouldcertainly refuse to support me
in this treatment.
Should I take any substancelike NAC or probiotic?
So yeah, you've got to join theParzai group really, because
this is important, and get allthe details you can.
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But unless you have a specificreason for taking Prezai Quanto.
You don't need it.
You can take Nyclosam 500milligrams three times a day and
that you can get quite easilyfrom nyclosamcom.
And there was another one.
What is that?
It's All Science.
I'm not sure what that is, butanyway, that's uh, I wish I knew
off the top of my head.
I'm sure I'll get answering thechance, but that one's very
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important because you can getalmost anything you need there
without a prescription.
So that's, wow, very helpful.
So now this is so.
The us tells us I've gotproblems in the gallbladder.
I'm like I've already got sortof I still don't have polyps.
Okay, so you understand that.
Should I take any supplementslike NAC or probiotic while
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taking this treatment?
And absolutely, and theprotocol for the liver support
during this, as we've gone overis alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin
milk thistle.
Gone over is alpha-lipoic acid,silymarin milk thistle and some
source of vitamin B1, thiamineand alpha-lipoic acid.
Oh yeah, I said thatAlpha-lipoic acid and the NAC,
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n-acetylcysteine, andN-acetylcysteine is just a
single amino acid which you canget at Sprouts or Whole Foods or
any like that, or onlineanywhere.
So those are all easilyobtainable without having to see
a doctor.
It's crazy.
So these are from Instagram.
What is the safest scan to showif CFCs are active in the body?
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Well, yeah, none of them arewithout safety concerns.
None of them.
Even a simple x-ray or maybe anultrasound would be without
safety concerns.
But the thing that we need tobe aware of is that we want to
make sure that whatever we'redoing is going to give us the
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results that allow us to seewhat we're looking for us to see
what we're looking for.
So sometimes we'll find we haveto do things that carry some
risk, but again, we weigh therisk and decide what's necessary
.
So if your conventional doctoror even alternative doctor has
concluded they don't know how towork with you therapeutically
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unless they have thisinformation, then you're in a
situation where you have to doit now.
The best scanning for cfcs Ithink it's a pet along with the
ct they do at the same time, andthat is because you see the
anatomy precisely where, exactlywhere it's located and what its
dimensions are, and and youalso see the activity level,
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which is essential to knowbecause that's your baseline.
And after you've been treatingfor six or eight weeks, you'll
notice that then you'd want tosee have we diminished the size
but not the activity, or thesize and the activity, or just
the activity.
Anyway, that's very importantto know.
The second question is how doesa detox from metals and
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parasites naturally afour-year-old well?
Are you sure your four-year-oldhas parasites?
And so, with your four-year-old, what you want to do is just
make sure that you're feeding itvery healthy food, because it
has you, because four-year-oldshave a very high nutritional
requirement of the breed atwhich they're growing.
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So you can use smoothies, thefresh nut milk with chia seed,
using it to make a chia seedInstead of what we use to make a
chia seed porridge.
But instead you take a coupletablespoons of the chia seed,
grind them up and put them inthe milk nut milk, add two
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handfuls of spinach and thenwhatever else you want pineapple
, coconut, strawberry, apple tomake it delicious.
And that would be a daily thing, because if you put a child on
a juice cleanse, they're goingto feel like they're starving.
You're not going to be able toreason with them at three years
old, and fortunately you can be.
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You can require that of yourchildren, but you should do it
in a way that helps themunderstand what they're doing
and do it with them.
It's always best to do thegreen juice cleanse or juice
cleanse with them, so they seethat you're both doing and
you're okay and that youunderstand how they're feeling
and that sort of thing.
So it's always very importantto do that if you can, all right
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.
So, uh, do you have any thoughtsabout getting the shingles
vaccine?
The answer is nay, and thenafter the second thought, nay,
and then after third, you've gotto understand that it doesn't
even make sense to get ashingles.
The other ones don't work.
If you know that they don'twork, you might think it makes
sense.
But shingles is the recurrenceof a chickenpox, which, in a
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sense, recurrence is that theexosome or virus that they call
it, hangs out in the spinalcolumn, probably the roots.
The roots are where theperipheral nerves come out of
the spinal column and they onlycome out or get active when the
person is stressed, right.
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So that's either physicalstress, stress or, you know,
emotional distress, and over aperiod of time.
So physical would be like theyhad a period of time in their
lives where they just were notgoing to bed until two or three
in the morning and they foundthemselves drinking alcohol or
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other things at night, notgetting sleep, other things at
night.
Not getting sick, just in acontinuous time like that will
weaken the immune system whichallows that breakout to occur.
All right, so that's the exit,what I wanted to share with you
and I don't use the word vaccine, because they're not vaccines.
None of them are.
They do not do what they claim.
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They do not do what they claim.
We have a vaccination programthat was developed by God and
it's in our bodies and it worksextremely well, and it has for
millions of years.
And isn't it odd to considerthat?
How the heck did we all survive, including animals and all that
, when there were no vaccinesaround?
How did we make it here?
And, in fact, think about thiswho invented vaccines?
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The unvaccinated?
The whole thing is a bizarrescam.
Don't get locked up in it, Justget out of it.
Wow, okay, so I feel like mylegs are wobbly and I can't walk
far, wow.
Well, I would like to know alot more about your current
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situation, to understand it andrespond.
That's why it'd be reallyhelpful to ask this on one of
our Zoom meetings.
If you were to join the group,you could join the health and
healing group so that you'rebeing exposed to some form of
toxicity.
So you really need to know that.
Is there a chronic illnessaround that or it's just
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developed out of?
You were fine and now you justhave wobbly legs and can't walk.
Now when you say wobbly legs, doyou mean, are they also
deformed?
Are they deformed in thatthey're skinnier than they
normally are?
Are they also deformed?
Are they deformed in thatthey're skinnier than they
normally are?
It's an obvious problem byanybody who saw, and so I'm
imagining you can't walk, butbecause they're so wobbly you
can't bear any weight to supportstepping.
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So I would like to know thecontext of what's going on, how
long it's been going on andwhere are they.
And I found when they did ascan and so anyway.
So you started out thissentence with saying I feel like
my legs are wobbly.
So it would be really helpfulif you could send in some of the
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imaging to me so I could lookat it and see what I can see
thus far and decide whether ornot something else is necessary
and also, with that, give abrief medical history so I can
know where you're, at whatcontext this is all happening.
So it could help.
All right.
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So now the next question.
Let me see this Brighton.
I don't see it All right.
So now the next question Let mesee this Brighton.
I don't see it All right.
Okay, so here's thoughts oncatzilla.
Stage one triple positive, didfour months taxol lepectomy and
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still small residual.
So these let's see.
I have not heard of thisparticular.
It's trastuzumab.
Trastuzumab is also calledHerceptin, but I never heard the
brand name of Catecyla.
But anyway, that's what it is.
It's a monoclonal antibody thatbinds to the HER2 receptor on
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cells and the HER2 receptor ison all cells anyway.
All cells have a HER1 throughHER5, also called epidermal
growth factors.
But what they're finding isthat it's upregulated and
therefore people with CFCs noteveryone, but you'll find that
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their HER2 is positive, for somereason it's just that one
that's upregulated, not theother ones, and so they've
developed a monoclonal antibodythat attacks that.
Remember, a monoclonal antibodyis an antibody that's been made
by your body to something thatthey're aiming for.
So it's got a place perhaps inthe entire program that you
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might have for healing, but it'sgot a.
So there's pretty much what'scalled immunotherapy nowadays,
with CFCs are fundamentally twokinds with CFCs are
fundamentally two kinds.
One is the monoclonal antibodypart and the other is the PD-L1
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blockers, called checkpointinhibitors.
But so with HER2, what'sinteresting too is HER2 is not
only with breast, it can befound with colon, it can be
found with, so it's not onlybreasts.
So, very important tounderstand, but they don't
usually look for it, which isodd.
But anyway, again, what ispreferable to understand is that
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HER2 is going to be positive ona group of people regardless of
.
There's no way to know whichpeople are going to be HER2
positive or HER2 negative.
But if you understand thatthat's just that your epidermal
growth factor number two hasbeen upregulated and that you're
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therefore, because what theepidermal growth factor says is,
when it gets stimulated, itcauses growth.
It's just one of the mechanismsthat continues the growth of a
tumor, just one of them.
Basically, if we're doing whatwe always talk about, which is
removing all the reasons whytumors occur, which is through
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our detox, and we're targetingthe CFCs with non-toxic
therapies based on theirmetabolism and we're reawakening
the immune system, then we'redoing all that we really can, or
all that's really necessary aswell, really necessary as well.
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So so the question, so so, somy thoughts on the cats silla
are it really okay?
So, since this is not such adangerous medication.
They all have poison.
But it's really even moreimportantly that you make the
decision based on your feelingand sense of things.
So a lot of times when peopleask this kind of question, their
feeling is they shouldn't, butthey have another deeper feeling
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that says but I have to, I'mafraid if I don't, and that's a
conflict within based on nothaving enough knowledge.
So that's where you that you'vegot to really investigate it.
So what you need to understandis you know what are the, the,
these epidermal growth factors,why are they on cells, etc.
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And then, secondly, what is theadvantage to cfcs by up
regulating to have more of itaround?
And then you have to understandthe different therapies, how
they're produced and what they,which we're talking about
monoclonal antibodies, and thenwhat's their direct action on
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the tumor that is considered thegoal, and what are the other
actions that could not be, thatcould be considered adverse, or
are there other positive effects?
Because it's something you haveto decide.
And the reason I say that isbecause if you took my advice or
anyone's advice on what todecide and yet you still had an
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internal conflict, then thatinternal conflict will really
greatly inhibit healing.
So why do I feel like and thisis from on the Instagram I can't
really see, there's no names.
Why do I feel like the floor ismoving below me?
Well, if you feel like that,there's really two forms of
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dizziness.
When we use the term dizziness,we're referring to being
lightheaded just like oh, I'mdizzy, I'm going to fall right.
Or being on a boat where thefloor is moving.
Things are spinning.
They're both called dizzy, butthey're two different phenomena.
The first one is usually due tosevere dehydration or something
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else that's caused volumedepletion, volume of blood, and
dehydration is a probably themost common.
So if that happens, when youstand up, you don't have enough
blood volume that, even thoughthe arterioles in your legs kind
of clamp down to keep the bloodup there flowing up there and
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not go down into the legs, ifyou're severely dehydrated or
you've had blood loss oranything like that, you won't be
able to do that.
So you'll stand up and you'llfeel really lightheaded and you
need to sit down again.
All right, so that's one.
The other one is an inner ear,not a middle ear, not an outer
ear, but an inner ear problem.
And what the inner ear is.
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It's on three different planesand they're kind of like these
hollowed out stone constructedof stone.
Whatever they are, they'rethese hollowed-out tubes that
have in them little hairs thatform a part of the floor and as
they are moved they produce anelectrical signal that goes to
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the brain and gets interpreted.
So when you were a child and youwould spin around on purpose
fast and then stop, and it wasfun because you were still
spinning.
But you're spinning in theopposite direction and the
reason is because the fluid wasgoing this way while you were
going this way and then when youstopped, when you just stopped
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and kept going it, it caused youto feel it's called vertigo
instead of dizziness, it'scalled vertiginous.
You felt vertigo andfortunately that doesn't last
very long.
As soon as you know your body's, the fluid stops flowing.
But there are many people whowind up getting chronic vertigo,
which can be a real problem,and there are actually websites
(47:43):
and groups that you can join forthat.
So I don't really know.
So it sounds like for you it'sjust beginning and since you're
focusing on the fact that yourlegs can't you can't walk
because your legs are wobbly itsounds like that whatever the
subjective feeling in your headis not significant.
So you've got to find out whichone it is.
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So you've got to go to a doctoror any kind of clinician that's
able to help you figure thatout and then, once you know,
then you'd be best to go to aholistically alternative
medicine type of person in yourarea who would have the ability
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to evaluate you and treat youappropriately.
And you can look in yourjournals, you know We've talked
about this before the AmericanAcademy of Anti-Aging Medicine,
I'm sorry.
And there's also the AmericanAcademy of.
What is that one called?
I don't know why it's something.
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Everything's in Chinese, whatI'm trying to get an image.
Anyway, it's called theAmerican College for the
Advanced Medicine, also calledACAM, and the reason it's
important is because everyonewho's trained through there,
who's been trained by them andthey're very good, it'll be on
their website as having beentrained, and you can pretty much
be assured that they weretrained well for this, whether
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or not they remember and they doit correctly, and all that is
one thing, but the fact thatthey were trained well.
And I'm looking here right now,and so one of the notes here is
let us find an integratedphysician near you.
So you'd click on that.
All right, so I don't have yourname but the floor moving under
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your feet.
As I said, it sounds like it'searly on in the condition and if
you're focused mostly on thelegs moving around, if you're
focused mostly on the legsmoving around and you're not
really talking about anexperience that's going on in
your head and that there are noassociated symptoms like nausea
because if you were on a boatlike that you would be nauseous,
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so none of that is happeningThen you should maybe go to I
don't even know if there are anyholistic or, alternatively,
reminding oncologists, but youcan go to.
I don't even know if there areany holistic or, alternatively,
reminding oncologists, but youcan go to any kind of doctor.
Because the treatment forvertigo, first of all, is
finding out what's causing it,what kind it is and what's
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causing it, and eliminating thatcause.
But it also involvesdetoxification and everything
that we do.
But in the meantime, if thesubjective feeling is so
powerful that you actually getnauseated by standing up and
walking if you ever get to thatpoint then it's really important
to treat it and there's atreatment for it.
It's not available in Thailandfor some reason, but you can
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order it from the US and, I'msure most other countries use it
because it works and it'simportant and basically it's
from the class of medicationscalled phenothiazines.
Yeah, all right.
So the medication, thephenothiazine, that would block
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there are actually two thatwould block the nausea
associated with this kind ofsensation, because imagine if it
was really active and youcouldn't not be dizzy.
It would be a bummer.
So it's used for that.
It's both the promethazine,which is commonly used, and the
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chloroparasine, which isbasically the other common one.
So they block that and you justdo them for short periods.
You don't do them for prolongedperiods, because these types of
medications, if you do them fortoo long, you can get kind of
bizarre psychological effectslike you'll use.
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I think I've never gotten aclear answer from people who are
doing it, but it's like they'reseeing bugs or things, seeing
things like that, and that's nofun.
You don't want to get that way.
So you don't take them for longperiods, but they will turn off
the nausea associated with that, because it's hard otherwise,
the nausea associated with that,all right, so anyway, so the
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lesser medication that's used inthat situation is called
meclizine, and meclizineM-E-C-L-I-Z-I-N-E that's usually
25 milligrams, probably threetimes a day, and you could be up
, go, go up as necessary anddown as necessary.
So what it does is that itactually.
It actually allows you to takecontrol of what you're doing,
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rather than having someone elsetell you what you what to do,
and I always prefer that.
Okay, so, anyway.
So meclizine, 25 milligrams,anywhere from one to four times
a day, actually stops thespinning.
That's fantastic, not just thenausea associated with it, but
it stops the spinning and it'sin the same drug category,
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you'll notice.
It ends with Z-I-N-E and youjust get meclizine and I've
never seen it not work on people.
So, 25 milligrams a day, we'reup to one to four times a day.
So here's the next question, andagain I don't quite have the
name.
The question is stage four orfive years into local recurrence
on same breast, other parts,stable surgery.
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So usually other parts, stablesurgery.
Stage four, stable, five yearsin local recurrence on same
breast, other parts stablesurgery.
Stage four, stable.
Five years in local recurrenceon same breast, other parts,
stable.
Okay, so anyway, when you sayother parts, I'm assuming that
you mean you might havesecondary locations of tumors
like metastasis, and so therewas a local recurrence on the
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same breast, other parts stable,and the question is surgery.
Right, so you've had a localrecurrence on the same breast
where apparently I guess somesurgery was done, either a
lumpectomy or a mastectomy, I'mnot sure you know.
You know the lateral mastectomy, so, anyway, a local recurrence
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just means it's growing on,usually on the scar, and that's
not unusual on the scar oraround it, because actually, as
it's being removed, the stemcells get out and that's
basically it.
And remember, our job is to notmake the body a hospitable host
to stem cells, meaning that thesoil they land in just is not
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compatible with them becomingstrong, but it is compatible
with us becoming strong, healthyand vibrant.
And then, what's an appropriateemail for reaching out to
podcast interviews?
Oh well, thomas at drlodycom,t-h-o-m-a-s at drlodycom would
(54:42):
be an appropriate email.
Or hello at drlodycom.
Somebody's scraping my window.
This next question is I'm losinglots of weight on a keto diet
and with the breast hormonetherapy, one thing is to keep
energy.
So you're losing lots of energyor lots of weight on a keto
diet?
Well, that's going to keepenergy.
So you're losing lots of energyor lots of weight on the keto
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diet?
Well, that's going to happenbecause the keto diet actually
the goal, and I think we'vetalked about this several times
when one gets into a state ofketosis, which means that they
have predominantly ketone bodiesbeing made, which are breakdown
products of fat, and theybecome the central part of
metabolism.
When that's happening, you'rein a state of ketosis and of
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course that would happen ifyou're not eating enough carbs,
because carbohydrates will turnon the glucose metabolism.
So if you're not eating carbsand you are eating fats, that
will turn into ketone bodies andsince you're not eating
carbohydrates, your body will bebreaking down your own fats
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which is why we have fat intoketone bodies.
So the ketone bodies will beused for fuel.
They'll provide energy to thecells.
But when you say you're on aketo diet, you know often people
think they are and they'redoing it, but they're not really
measuring anything to know ifthey are.
They are and they're doing it,but they're not really measuring
anything to know if they are.
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You know, so like they at leastonce a day doing your ketone
bodies and your glucose.
To figure out your glucose, theketone index, your gki, and
usually you want that to be lessthan 1.0.
It's hard to achieve just onfood, even if you're eating all
fat.
So in spite of what you'reeating, you probably have to do
one to two days a week of justwater only, just to keep you in
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a generalized ketosis, and soketosis will obviously prevent
the.
It prevents the.
In order to get into ketosis,you have to not have the carbs,
so there'll be no stimulus toproduce fat, and so body weight
will come down for that reasonand because you're breaking down
the fat to be used for fuel.
Yeah, so that's why you'relosing weight, which is not only
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perfectly fine but actuallysomething you want to happen,
unless you've reached the pointwhere you're cachectic, where
your body's actually consumingitself.
If that's where you get to thepoint is you've got to stop,
because cachexia is, it can bevery nasty.
It's way different thancatching a cold or anything like
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that or anything that's goingto involve one organ system,
because cachexia involves thewhole body.
It really evolves from the factthat people don't want to eat
or can't eat.
So in order to work with someonewith that condition, you would
work with them due to the causes, each separate part.
So if they can't eat becausethey're nauseous, or they can't
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eat because there's anobstruction or whatever it is,
you have to deal with that Ifthey don't want to eat, in other
words, they have no appetite.
If you have the luxury, thebest thing to do is wait and see
how long it would take forsomeone to get an appetite.
And if you didn't want to waitthat long, you can just have
everything ready when they comeover and eat.
But it's it's difficult.
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So that's where the use ofcannabis comes in.
Cannabis is very important forstimulating appetite.
Um and um.
It also have a will have abeneficial effect.
If anyone gets nauseous fromeating and sometimes it's just
that the person hasn't eatenenough over time so their GI
system isn't working that wellbut usually to get cachectic
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it's usually in someone withstage 4 that has gone to
multiple areas and is causingmajor biochemical alert systems
on different parts of the body,which is exhausting the immune
system and so the tumormetabolism our body gets turns
back mainly to a tumormetabolism.
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So that's the way to deal withit.
And you know, the other thingwe use with cachexia, as we've
mentioned many times, is um.
We want to heal the gut right,um, and so we're going to use
the glutamine, which is theprimary fuel for enterocytes,
small cell intestines, and it'sa fuel for cfcs.
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However, it's also thenecessary fuel for lymphocytes,
which actually turn out to bethe cells that turn to become
natural killer cells and T cellsactivate that actually gobble
up and eat tumors.
So when you look at all therisks and benefits, the risk of
using it is far outweighs therisk of not using it, because
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you have to adapt, adjust to thefact that a certain therapy
cannot be used by you.
So we're gonna find other waysof achieving the same thing.
There are many different waysof getting the same thing.
We've got several in Arizona.
Your thoughts on parasitecleanses Should we all do one
per year?
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Yeah, I think we should all do,initially a good long one to
make sure that we've got themall, and then I think a one-year
daily maintenance would begreat.
You'd still be shocked if youcould manifest anything, but a
lot of people me for instancelooking came out anywhere.
So if you want to see somethingit's usually people who have
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obvious worms and stuff thatthey could see all the time and
then they'd stop seeing them orthey diminish significantly then
that's noted.
Otherwise it's really hard toknow what benefit you're getting
.
But yes, once a year isfantastic, but actually what you
mean is a maintenance.
So you've already done anintensive first year, which
could be three to nine months,depending, or a year, and now
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the maintenance would bedepending on how long that one
was, how long your initial onewas, can be anywhere from 14
days up to two weeks, up toeight, twelve weeks, and usually
the longer the better, becauseit does multiple beneficial
effects and can change themetabolism of the tumor, is not
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central, so it's very good.
Now, ben is all criticizedlately.
Cfc is coming back worse afterfirst success Again.
I think we talked about thislast week.
Please send me what you'reseeing in that regard and then
I'll read it and then we cantalk about it next week.
But send me whatever you'reseeing about criticizing Finn
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Vincente.
It was criticized before it was,before Joe Timmons used it.
It was called a dog D-word or ahorse D-word, things like that,
and they didn't recommend it atall.
They said it was dangerous andall that.
A dog D-Wormer or a horseD-Wormer or things like that.
They didn't recommend it at all.
They said it was dangerous andall that for humans.
Well, it turns out it's not.
Some were dangerous than theother ones and I've had hundreds
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of people on all the differentBenzimidazoles, especially
fenbendazole, and the reason isbecause fenbendazole has gained
such popularity because of JoeTippins, and other people have
followed in his doing exactlywhat he's doing, with great
results.
But it's not that the otherswouldn't work right, and
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researchers were not beingoffered grants to do it either.
However, joe Tippins came inand had already done it himself,
and it showed an incredibleeffect.
So that's how it came to be.
Otherwise, the medical worldfocuses on fenbenazole and
albenzol, and I'm not quite surewhy but I mean why they decided
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that these are human and thoseare animal, but they're not.
As I pointed out earlier, whenwe're talking about mammals, we
all have very similar bodiesFour-chambered heart, two lungs,
four limbs, gastrointestinaltract Pretty much the same,
except there are differentrefinements and adaptations to
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different parts of the centralnervous system, which is brain
and spinal cord, as well as theperipheral nervous system.
All right, you guys.
Green medicine All right, youguys.
I'm sure in the chat there'ssomewhere that people are
telling us all the answers toour questions.
Anyway, I apologize for thelate start today and I'll see
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you tomorrow at the meeting.
Is it tomorrow?
Yeah, tomorrow my morning, yournight for the meeting, if
you're in that group, okay, allright.
Sawadikap and aloha, aloha.
If anyone knows what's going on in the world,
tell me.
Buenos noches, saludos.
And so, anyway, we're in theshow.
So, anyway, I'd just like tomention I just saw someone had
sent a message.
Real quick I'm going to easilyanswer.
This Is EBV Epstein-Barr virus,from a mosquito parasite.
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No, the general rhetoric thatwe're told by the Rockefellerian
group, as the Rocky and hisboys, is that it comes from
intimate contact, kissing,sexual activity, or just being
very close to somebody, andfirst of all, do viruses exist?
This is the first question.
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Being very close to somebodyand first of all, do viruses
exist?
This is the first question.
The second question is, ifthey're not, if whatever's
happening to us is not viral,what is happening to us?
So that's a whole whole storythat we need to get into, but
not right away, not today.
So let's do this, let's look atand all of these people are
waving Fantastic man, let's findour questions.
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Okay, and go there and getstarted.
Okay, so questions will beunder questions.
Are they in the team?
There we go.
That's the link for thequestion.
Okay, there we go.
Cool, here we are.
Sorry, we're in that delay.
Come on, it's working.
Okay, there we go.
We're gonna get rid of this oneanyway.
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Um, you know, I wanted tocomment on, uh, a little bit on,
um, where'd it go?
Iodine, let me just comment onthat really quickly because uh
and I'll I'll make a, a, um, ashort video, if I can.
How do you make a short videoon something that's so
complicated?
It's very difficult.
But anyway, iodide is like theforgotten mineral, and it's not
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a mineral in the sense thatsodium and magnesium are
minerals, because by definitionthey're called transition metals
and they carry a plus charge.
Of course they can't remain inthat position at all, so they
immediately have a negativecharge to hang out with.
Sodium gets chloride, which isnegative, and magnesium can get
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chloride.
They don't need two chlorides.
They can get oxide or bromideor fluoride.
They can all act kind of thesame.
But iodide is at the bottom ofthe largest of the halogens and
the halogens are bromide,fluoride and chloride.
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Chloride, fluoride and bromideand then iodide.
They all have the same activity, they're just larger.
Each one is larger than theother.
That's one of the problems withour thyroid is that the thyroid
gland, when it's producingthyroid if there are no iodides
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around which happens quite oftensince we live in an
iodide-deficient soil and wedon't eat seaweed.
So unless you're japanese andyou need a traditional diet with
a lot of seaweed, you won't begetting iodine.
You don't get the iodine as youcannot make t3 and t4 because
they rely on iodide, and so whatthey'll use is something that's
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just as available or just as athat fits chemically for that
reaction, and that would be thebromine, fluoride or chlorine.
So you'll have your T3, maybeone, if you're lucky, one iodide
and maybe two fluorides orbromine and the fluoride and the
T4 might have two chlorides andthe fluoride and the bromine or
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whatever.
So they still measure as T4 andT3, but they don't have the
activity because the wholeideand the bromide or whatever.
So they still measure as T4 andT3, but they don't have the
activity, because the whole ideaof the thyroid hormone is to
deliver iodine to the cells,which has multiple effects so,
and one of them is control overthe immune system.
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So if you don't have a healthythyroid, you won't have a
healthy immune system.
It's impossible, but I don'tknow if this has been talked
about, but I wrote about ityears ago, so I'm going to
rewrite this paper on it.
So you should understand it,because it's the most really
forgotten.
And in fact there was a paperwritten called Iodophobia
Medical Iodophobia, because forsome reason doctors are afraid
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to use it and that has to do athyroid function and all that.
So we'll go into that with thepaper.
But just to let you know that Idied.
It's very important.
It must be restored to healthylevels and that takes at least a
year not taking 25 milligrams aday.
But then you're getting moreiodine in your system than would
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be necessary for an activemaintenance.
An active maintenance would be12.5 milligrams but you're not
at maintenance yet because youhaven't reestablished or
established for the first timehealthy levels of iodine.
So for that reason you'll betaking 25 milligrams a day, just
so that it doesn't take for thenext 10 years and that can and
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will suppress thyroid hormoneoutput.
So, being aware of that andbeing aware that you've got two
simultaneous goals Number one isto restore healthy thyroid
function, which requires thatyou fill up the deficit of
iodine, because that's part ofthe final molecule in C3 and C4.
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And secondly, it is to maintaina healthy thyroid level
functioning while you are busyrestoring iodine supplies to the
body.
And you can only do that bytaking something exogenous and
outside a thyroid, and I alwaysuse natural thyroid hormones.
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Natural because they have T3and T4 in them and that they're
derived from animals.
So those of us who arephilosophically or morally or
ethically opposed to killinganimals will probably have a
hard time taking these.
They're called glandularsbecause they come from the
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glands of either sheep or cows Ithink that's it sheep or cows,
and pigs, I'm sorry, are theymight come from other mammals,
which actually illustrates oneimportant fact, and that is the
functioning of the human body.
Its structure and functioning,its anatomy and physiology is
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very similar to all mammals,producing the same kinds of
hormones.
Hormones are the way the bodytalks to itself, same with
peptides and all the otherproducts, which is why, for
example, when insulin was firstdiscovered, they were using
insulin from a pig, and so itwas.
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In order to extract it, youhave to remove the thyroid
glands of a pig or whateveranimal.
So that's the ethical dilemma.
So, if that is a real problemfor you, the choice is getting
the synthetic versions of boththe T4 and T3 and then putting
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them in the proper ratio.
And the T4 is easily obtained,and it's the only thing that
most doctors ever prescription,they ever write for when it
comes to thyroid, levothyroxine.
Now, when it comes to thyroid, Idon't know.
Let me just review this for you.
When it comes to thyroid, theactive aspect is the T3.
The T4 is inactive, in otherwords, it's a precursor,
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pre-hormone, and it circulatesand when a cell needs it it'll
grab it.
Take off one of the iodines, itgoes from T4 to T3.
Now it fits.
That's how that works.
That's why you need to takeiodine, in spite of the fact
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that it will probably lower yourthyroid output and make you
more hypothyroid than youalready were.
And the way you combat this isby doing your basal body
temperatures in the morning.
That's, to take the appropriatetimes for you to increase or
not increase, whether you'retaking enough thyroid hormone or
not, enough thyroid hormone ornot.
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Okay, the thyroid hormone thatwe usually look at are the, the
porcine ones from the us, whichare westroid and uh, well, no,
anyway.
Uh, from new zealand it'sthyrovans, but basically these
are glandulars, as we said.
All All right.
So come on.
Where are we?
Come on there, we are Very good, all right.
So now someone has mentionedthey take a nascent thyroid.
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That usually refers to only theiodine.
So remember the Lugol's in 1820, I think it was Armour.
That's right, sandy, thank you.
So it's Armourour, that's right, thank you.
So it's Armour.
Thyroid, westeroid, thyrovansall right, are the main ones.
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I'm sure there's otherglandulars.
They provide you the T3 and theT4.
Now, yeah, lugol, who was achemist in 1820, divided Lugol's
solution and the problem was is, in order to make the solution,
you have to have double theamount of iodide than iodine,
because iodide is water-solubleand iodine is not.
So what happens is that, if youwere to Because you really need
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more iodine than iodine,because iodine, which is just
molecular iodine, which is twoof them together actually what
that does is destroy CFCs.
It destroys bacteria.
It also is a cofactor involvedin healthy estrogen metabolism,
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which is very important.
So, yeah, that's it.
So that's why you'd use Lugol's, so you can get both.
Now you're not going to getthem in the proper solution
because, in order to sustainsolution, you have more iodide
because it's water soluble,right?
So that means that Lugol's willbe giving you more iodide to
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the thyroid, causing it todecrease its output.
If we could somehow find a wayto reverse it so that there was
more iodine than iodide, itwould be great.
It's not chemically possible inthat form.
Let's get on with the show.
All right so, as we mentionedevery week.
All right so, as we mentionedevery week, just a quick
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orientation, if you're new,first time watching this, is
that we don't use the word theastrological sign for people who
have tumors.
We refer to that situation asexactly what it is, which is
chronically fermenting cells.
So if you have chronicallyfermenting cells in the breast,
pancreas, colon, liver, brain,they're chronically fermenting
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cells.
And we use that word becausethat word is helpful, makes us
feel good, gives us a purpose, areason, a way out of this
dilemma, and because you knowwhat it is, you know how to deal
, deal with it.
So it does all sorts ofwonderful things like that.
So, anyway, um, and, and if youcurrently have cfcs, then our
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an oasis of healing in arizona,is that we're in our 20th year
now, really wonderful.
It's not because I'm involvedwith it and you know I I founded
it, but because, um, it itlooks at all aspects of human
nature that need to be dealtwith when you're ill with
anything, and that's the body,mind, spirit, continuum.
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You can't ignore any.
Excellent, so you can call themAll right.
So now and then, as you all know, we have three groups called
the.
What is it called?
The Dr Lodi community?
And in the Dr Lodi communityare three groups.
One is the health and healinggroup.
It was formerly called InnerCircle but we've changed it.
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The Inner Circle sounded goodat first but it sounded sort of
elitist and it really is thecommunity.
So if you're in any group thehealth and healing group,
parasite group or CFC groups thecommunity that forms because
you have access, there's atelegram chat group that's
private to everyone.
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Who's members and what's sharedon there is amazing and most
people that are on there havebeen dealing with whatever
situation it is parasites orCFCs or whatever for quite a
long time and they've got lotsof experience and they share
that experience.
So it's amazing what goes onthere and it means that you have
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more than just one person toconsult.
You have a lot of people toconsult and trust.
So it's fantastic in thatregard.
So there's those three groupsand you can just go to our
website, drlodycom.
That's drlodycom, get on thewebsite and then you can join.
So if you're on Twitter, ofcourse what you're looking at
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now is drthomaslodymd.
If you're on the new TikTok,you're also looking at dr thomas
lodi md.
If you're on the new tic toc,you're also looking at dr thomas
lodi md, but I don't know we'reon.
I don't think we're.
We're able to stream on ticktock and for all the rest it's
instagram, facebook, youtube,linkedin.
Um, it's all at dr thomas lodi.
There's no md at the end.
It's only for the x and tic tocthat they have dr lodi md.
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Thomas lodi, md x and tixcom,dr Lodi, thomas Lodi.
All right, and you can also goto the website and stream, which
is drlodicom slash live.
So let's check out thequestions here.
For those of you who have beenwatching the human diet webinar
series, we had to postpone lastFriday's, which would have been
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the third part, the thirdprogram, which was what does the
research say, until this comingFriday.
My Friday is your Thursday,sorry, your Thursday afternoon
and what we're saying is whatdoes the research say?
What your doctor says, you knowwhat your friends say, you know
what the prevailing opinionsare, but you don't know what the
research is, because by knowingwhat the research says, you've
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studied it and you you cananswer it yourself and you need
to know, because it's kind ofimportant and one of the things
that we're going to do with thedr lodi community is we're going
to improve the uh, you knowwhat you enjoy the experience,
because the experience has beenbeen fragmented.
We didn't really have acoordinator for that, so we're
going to have someone whospecifically coordinates all the
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different groups and and itallows everyone to have a
relationship with that person,to answer questions and all that
.
We're going to have videos ofsummarizing what's available,
etc.
Because a lot of people weren'ttaking advantage of the fact
that, if they were unable to seeit live, you can watch a replay
, or a big part of what'savailable is the weekly Zoom
(15:15):
meetings, and we have weeklyZoom meetings two days a week,
Soon to be three days a week,and that's where we can have
direct interaction.
You can ask direct questionsand it's really worthwhile.
And then, of course, where wecan have direct interaction, you
can ask direct questions andit's really worthwhile.
And then, of course, we alreadyhave, as you know, a movement
specialist, darren.
He's a kinesiologist.
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And then we have Vanessa, anutritionist, yoga coach, health
educator.
And then we have Donna, who'sbeen eating uncooked vegan food
for 35 years now, so she givesguidance on how to make that
transition and how to be happyabout it.
How to be happy about it.
It's got to taste good, periodAnyway.
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So that's it, and we'reimproving that.
So I hope to see you all there,because that's how we can
interact.
See the format on Sunday night.
I can't interact, I wind updoing it anyway.
There's no fear of.
I don't make it at all, unlessyou have a specific allergy or
something, something to it.
All right, so here we are, sohere we go.
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Let's get our questions.
First question from CharlieRegarding breast CFCs.
Greetings, doc.
Is it better to do a detoxbefore going on a robust three
to seven day fast?
Is it okay to sleep with onionbeneath the feet at night during
a natural detox protocol orwhile fasting?
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Can ivermectin be taken duringa protocol, a detox protocol,
and what is your recommendeddose for taking fenbendazole and
ivermectin?
All right, so prettyinteresting questions.
So, really, the first questionis is it better to do a detox
before going on a robust threeto seven day water I'm imagining
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you mean water fast.
Yes, yes, yes, if you could dothat, that would be good.
But if you can't do it that waybecause of whatever reasons,
it's okay.
Yes, if you could do that, thatwould be good.
But if you can't do it that way, because of whatever reasons,
it's okay.
But you know that would beideal.
And of course, if you're doinga water fast, a true fast, then
you don't really take anysupplements or medicines unless
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they're a medicine that you haveto take, in other words, if you
can't just abruptly stop them.
So if that's the kind ofmedicine, you'd have to still
take it.
But it's very different thandoing a juice cleanse where you
can still take the ivermectinand fibmenzo and whatever all
the other antiparasitic.
So the other one was is it okayto sleep with onions beneath the
feet and can ivermectin betaken during a detox protocol?
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Well, the problem withpregnancy is that the only study
on animals, because it would beunethical to give a pregnant
woman something potentiallydangerous, just get information
that it's dangerous and thatwould actually make it unethical
as well.
So the question was so theother one was can ivermectin be
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taken during a pregnancyprotocol, and is it recommended
to take fedbendazole along withivermectin?
So yes, as we've mentioned manytimes the anti-worms, which are
the anti-albuminics the triadthat I think works very well is
ivermectin, and one of thebenzobidazole is benvendazole or
bevendazole or albendazole.
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The third one which I thinkshould be my close in mind
unless you've got specificsituation where you think you
have a flat worm in your liverfrom eating raw fish in
southeast asia, then you'll wantto change to prasikantel, so
that's the worms, and then theprotozoa can be kept at bay, not
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causing problems, by using atindazole metronidazole but
tindazole is better in thisregard.
But also there's a drug callednidazoxonide which goes by the
brand name of Lilialina, andit's an amazing drug because it
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actually eliminates CFCs, but italso is both worm and
antiprotozoal, so very important.
And so the doses can bedepending on weight and age and
all that.
But usually for an adult,ivermectin is 12 milligrams
three times a day, medbenadol is222 milligrams three times a
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day, or the medbenadol is 500milligrams three times a day,
and the niclosamide is 500milligrams three times a day and
the nitoxanide is 500milligrams three times a day and
the nidazoxam, nidoxanide,nidoxanide is 500 milligrams
three times a day as well.
And then there are antifungalsincluded which are fluconazole
and or nystatin, and fluconazolecan be 103 times a day, or it
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could be.
There's two different ways.
The doctors write it in the US150 or 200 milligrams, so the
nice statin would be 500,000units because it's in units
three times a day.
So you've got that.
No, it's recommended whenyou're doing a water test not to
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be doing anything other thannot to be taking anything other
than water and the prescribedmedicines.
That would cause you damage ifyou quit them abruptly and
didn't wean.
So hold on a moment, let mejust go flag that up.
So the next question is fromAnnette.
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She goes hi, stop the meds, asinstructed to take an antifungal
by day three.
Flare-up was up so intense Ihad to start the meds again.
Can you recommend a rotationprotocol so parasites are never
without meds, or a five-to-twoschedule each week because of
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the adverse reaction to athree-day, three days off?
Well, in your situation, annette, that doesn't happen with
everyone.
Most people can take a week offand it's helpful in biology
because we always want to giveour bodies a break from whatever
we're introducing to it,because in nature, nothing is
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every day except breathing.
But I mean nothing is everydayexcept breathing.
But I mean nothing is everyday.
Nothing is available everyday,which is why animals don't eat
all the time and they won't eatuntil they find food.
They run into food that fitswithin their instinctual
parameters.
Alright, so for you.
Apparently, if you go more thantwo days, you can do two days,
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but if you go more than two days, you can do two days.
If you go more than two days,then you wind up getting an
extreme flare-up, and so I don'tknow, I wonder what the
flare-up was.
But keep in mind that youshould be doing the liver detox
protocol right that we've talkedabout, and let me show you one
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other thing here.
There it is, let's see.
No, that's not.
I'm not going to spend timelooking for it, I can't find it.
And so what I was looking foris, during the whole period you
should be taking the liver detoxprotocol, and the reason for
this is that each of thesemedications all require very
similar actions by the liver toneutralize them, which means
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your liver is working on four orfive medications daily, right,
and so it can get tired orexhausted in one area, and then
you see a flare-up of enzymes.
And don't worry about the liver, because the liver is the most
resilient and restorative organin our body.
You can donate two-thirds of itto a sibling and it'll grow
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back.
No other organ does that.
It's very similar to a lizard'stail, so it's a very
regenerative organ.
It doesn't mean it should beabused, it just means that it's
a very regenerative organ, notlike our kidneys or our stomach
or lungs.
So that's that.
And here's Don.
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Don says I'm 87 and in goodhealth, other than the return of
my prostate CFC after 10 years.
I feel that I'm doing well formy age and I am active.
I can do most things that I doat 70.
My wife and I are stilltogether after six, five years
Fantastic.
I am not left with many optionsto treat the CFCs.
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My last PFC was TSA was 0.20.
I mentioned an holistic approachlike FedBen or Ivermectin, but
need a protocol.
Can you help me?
Absolutely.
If you go to our website,drlodycom drlodycom and I think
it would be good for you to jointhe CFC group which would deal
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specifically with that you and Ican speak twice a week because
you'll have access to all themeetings and we can talk about
your current situation, theprogress and all that.
So that's a very, veryimportant way to do it.
In fact it's the only way.
But your PSA was 0.20, so itsounds like you must have had a
surgery.
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Anyway, that's how you do it.
So please Don join.
There's a parasite group inthere, all right.
So this is Laura, and Laura saysI want all the details on
parasite detox and heavy-mandetox for me and my children.
Well, all the details.
You can get all the details ifyou join the Health and Healing
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Group.
But short of that, the onlydifference between adults and
children are the amounts youwould use if you were using, for
example, part of your detoxprotocol included a parasite
cleanse and the antifarasiticmedication, right, which I just
went over, actually, with theformer question.
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But the other thing is thatwith children the dosages would
be different because it goes bybody weight and all these drugs
are actually safe for children.
They're given to childrenworldwide because the conditions
that we've identified, such asroundworm and flatworms and all
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the worms that are well-known,pinworms and all that are
worldwide, and so thesemedications are taken for people
all over the world.
And then there are specific andunusual parasites, like
onchoceriosis, where it getsinto the eye, or you take
ivermectin.
So it really depends on whatyou've been, laura.
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So what's been your recentexposure and are there any
symptoms, et cetera, to reallycome up with appropriate
protocol, any symptoms, etcetera, to really come up with
appropriate protocol.
And then, as I said for thechildren, we'd have to decrease
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for body weight.
But so with the parasite detoxit's on the website but also the
heavy metal detox, the way youdetox from it is you stop eating
them.
So you've got to watch out forthe food that you're eating.
And then the way that weeliminate it on purpose, not by
some bodily mechanism, isthrough different chelation
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agents.
So there is the calciumdisodium, edta, or just the EDTA
, and a lot of times the EDTA isexchanged for calcium EDTA or
just the EDTA, and a lot oftimes the EDTA is exchanged for
calcium EDTA, which is a goodidea in terms of its ability to
give it fast and all that, andit's equally as effective in
removing the metals.
But you don't get the extrabenefit of really adjusting the
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thyroid, because it naturallyadjusts the thyroid.
So, laura, yeah, someone wasmaking my attention, bringing my
attention to All right, verygood.
Okay.
Now this is a question from Jenand it's called Alternative CFC
Therapies.
Have you heard of Dr PatSoon-Shiong?
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He's a former UCLA professorand medical doctor and a CFC
researcher for over 30 years.
He has a theory that people whocannot clear the COVID virus or
vaccine develop long COVID,which suppresses our immune
system, which leads to CFCs.
He said it destroys killerT-cells and other protective
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measures in our body.
He has developed BioShieldwhich clears the virus and puts
it on the CTC and other things.
I listen to him speak on adaily show and other shows.
He talks exactly like you, drLodi, in regards to cancer and
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the standard of care.
He is a technician withglioblastoma, hiv and other
diseases with great success.
All right, so well.
Sounds amazing.
I don't know the fellow, but itsounds amazing.
However and this is a verypowerful however I don't think
you would have to worry aboutclearing the COVID vaccine
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because I don't think it existsthe COVID bacteria virus and, of
course, the vaccine anddeveloping long COVID.
We found out that the onlypeople that develop what they're
calling long COVID are peoplewho have been vaccinated or
injected.
So that's what we're finding.
So in that regard, I'm not sure, maybe his explanation would be
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a little bit different on whathe's doing, so we'd have to hear
that.
But it's usually a simple thingthat you do once or twice a
week or something, but it'squite complicated to understand.
So I'd love to hear that.
So right, if you can actually so, if you actually cause any
damage to the immune system,you're actually helping the CFC.
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So it's a very you know whetheror not there's theories, and
theories are opinions.
People don't have the knowledge, because if you have the
knowledge about something, it'sno longer a theory.
So but what I love about it isthat it actually does restore
the strength of our immunesystem.
So it is interesting that he'sinjecting people daily with
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glioblastomas, hiv and otherswith great success.
So I'd love to find out whatthat is.
I would definitely look up DrPat Sun Shion.
It sounds pretty amazing.
So here's a new name SNF, or aname, not a new name.
She says Hi, I stopped meds asit constructed to take FN31.
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That day follows by day three.
Flare-up was so intense.
This is very similar.
So can you recommend a supportor rotation schedule so
parasites are never missed on a5-2 schedule because of the
severe adverse reaction to threedays off of the drugs?
That's really odd, becauseprior to taking the drugs were
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things very severe and then.
So anyway, annette, I hopeyou're on the Parasite Telegram
group so we can talk directly,we can interact.
So if not, join it, becauseyou've already paid for it by
being a member, so it's a free,definitely get on that.
So here are some comments ondifferent platforms.
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Is creatine good for women, forstrength, strength in bones,
health?
Or if you've had CFCs, thankyou.
Well, creatine is a naturalproduct that we produce for that
purpose.
The answer is no.
It's not a dangerous ordeleterious thing.
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It's a pretty natural substance.
And this is from Charlie.
He says greetings.
What's the discount code forthe CDC group?
Oh, wow, I'm not sure of thediscount code for the CDC group.
Hopefully someone's going topost it soon.
So now that you've asked thisquite formally, I hope it gets
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answered on our chat, because Idon't personally know that this
kind of thing.
I'm not sure if it works.
All right, so now are we?
The next person would be Viadaand her question is hello, the
US tells I've got polyps andgallbladder.
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I would like to takeanti-parasitic treatment.
I've already got the homeivermectin and Vermox.
I still don't have Prasequant.
My family doctor wouldcertainly refuse to support me
in this treatment.
Should I take any substancelike NAC or probiotic?
So yeah, you've got to join theParzai group really, because
this is important, and get allthe details you can.
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But unless you have a specificreason for taking Prezai Quanto.
You don't need it.
You can take Nyclosam 500milligrams three times a day and
that you can get quite easilyfrom nyclosamcom.
And there was another one.
What is that?
It's All Science.
I'm not sure what that is, butanyway, that's uh, I wish I knew
off the top of my head.
I'm sure I'll get answering thechance, but that one's very
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important because you can getalmost anything you need there
without a prescription.
So that's, wow, very helpful.
So now this is so.
The us tells us I've gotproblems in the gallbladder.
I'm like I've already got sortof I still don't have polyps.
Okay, so you understand that.
Should I take any supplementslike NAC or probiotic while
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taking this treatment?
And absolutely, and theprotocol for the liver support
during this, as we've gone overis alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin
milk thistle.
Gone over is alpha-lipoic acid,silymarin milk thistle and some
source of vitamin B1, thiamineand alpha-lipoic acid.
Oh yeah, I said thatAlpha-lipoic acid and the NAC,
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n-acetylcysteine, andN-acetylcysteine is just a
single amino acid which you canget at Sprouts or Whole Foods or
any like that, or onlineanywhere.
So those are all easilyobtainable without having to see
a doctor.
It's crazy.
So these are from Instagram.
What is the safest scan to showif CFCs are active in the body?
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Well, yeah, none of them arewithout safety concerns.
None of them.
Even a simple x-ray or maybe anultrasound would be without
safety concerns.
But the thing that we need tobe aware of is that we want to
make sure that whatever we'redoing is going to give us the
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results that allow us to seewhat we're looking for us to see
what we're looking for.
So sometimes we'll find we haveto do things that carry some
risk, but again, we weigh therisk and decide what's necessary
.
So if your conventional doctoror even alternative doctor has
concluded they don't know how towork with you therapeutically
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unless they have thisinformation, then you're in a
situation where you have to doit now.
The best scanning for cfcs Ithink it's a pet along with the
ct they do at the same time, andthat is because you see the
anatomy precisely where, exactlywhere it's located and what its
dimensions are, and and youalso see the activity level,
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which is essential to knowbecause that's your baseline.
And after you've been treatingfor six or eight weeks, you'll
notice that then you'd want tosee have we diminished the size
but not the activity, or thesize and the activity, or just
the activity.
Anyway, that's very importantto know.
The second question is how doesa detox from metals and
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parasites naturally afour-year-old well?
Are you sure your four-year-oldhas parasites?
And so, with your four-year-old, what you want to do is just
make sure that you're feeding itvery healthy food, because it
has you, because four-year-oldshave a very high nutritional
requirement of the breed atwhich they're growing.
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So you can use smoothies, thefresh nut milk with chia seed,
using it to make a chia seedInstead of what we use to make a
chia seed porridge.
But instead you take a coupletablespoons of the chia seed,
grind them up and put them inthe milk nut milk, add two
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handfuls of spinach and thenwhatever else you want pineapple
, coconut, strawberry, apple tomake it delicious.
And that would be a daily thing, because if you put a child on
a juice cleanse, they're goingto feel like they're starving.
You're not going to be able toreason with them at three years
old, and fortunately you can be.
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You can require that of yourchildren, but you should do it
in a way that helps themunderstand what they're doing
and do it with them.
It's always best to do thegreen juice cleanse or juice
cleanse with them, so they seethat you're both doing and
you're okay and that youunderstand how they're feeling
and that sort of thing.
So it's always very importantto do that if you can, all right
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.
So, uh, do you have any thoughtsabout getting the shingles
vaccine?
The answer is nay, and thenafter the second thought, nay,
and then after third, you've gotto understand that it doesn't
even make sense to get ashingles.
The other ones don't work.
If you know that they don'twork, you might think it makes
sense.
But shingles is the recurrenceof a chickenpox, which, in a
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sense, recurrence is that theexosome or virus that they call
it, hangs out in the spinalcolumn, probably the roots.
The roots are where theperipheral nerves come out of
the spinal column and they onlycome out or get active when the
person is stressed, right.
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So that's either physicalstress, stress or, you know,
emotional distress, and over aperiod of time.
So physical would be like theyhad a period of time in their
lives where they just were notgoing to bed until two or three
in the morning and they foundthemselves drinking alcohol or
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other things at night, notgetting sleep, other things at
night.
Not getting sick, just in acontinuous time like that will
weaken the immune system whichallows that breakout to occur.
All right, so that's the exit,what I wanted to share with you
and I don't use the word vaccine, because they're not vaccines.
None of them are.
They do not do what they claim.
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They do not do what they claim.
We have a vaccination programthat was developed by God and
it's in our bodies and it worksextremely well, and it has for
millions of years.
And isn't it odd to considerthat?
How the heck did we all survive, including animals and all that
, when there were no vaccinesaround?
How did we make it here?
And, in fact, think about thiswho invented vaccines?
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The unvaccinated?
The whole thing is a bizarrescam.
Don't get locked up in it, Justget out of it.
Wow, okay, so I feel like mylegs are wobbly and I can't walk
far, wow.
Well, I would like to know alot more about your current
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situation, to understand it andrespond.
That's why it'd be reallyhelpful to ask this on one of
our Zoom meetings.
If you were to join the group,you could join the health and
healing group so that you'rebeing exposed to some form of
toxicity.
So you really need to know that.
Is there a chronic illnessaround that or it's just
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developed out of?
You were fine and now you justhave wobbly legs and can't walk.
Now when you say wobbly legs, doyou mean, are they also
deformed?
Are they deformed in thatthey're skinnier than they
normally are?
Are they also deformed?
Are they deformed in thatthey're skinnier than they
normally are?
It's an obvious problem byanybody who saw, and so I'm
imagining you can't walk, butbecause they're so wobbly you
can't bear any weight to supportstepping.
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So I would like to know thecontext of what's going on, how
long it's been going on andwhere are they.
And I found when they did ascan and so anyway.
So you started out thissentence with saying I feel like
my legs are wobbly.
So it would be really helpfulif you could send in some of the
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imaging to me so I could lookat it and see what I can see
thus far and decide whether ornot something else is necessary
and also, with that, give abrief medical history so I can
know where you're, at whatcontext this is all happening.
So it could help.
All right.
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So now the next question.
Let me see this Brighton.
I don't see it All right.
So now the next question Let mesee this Brighton.
I don't see it All right.
Okay, so here's thoughts oncatzilla.
Stage one triple positive, didfour months taxol lepectomy and
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still small residual.
So these let's see.
I have not heard of thisparticular.
It's trastuzumab.
Trastuzumab is also calledHerceptin, but I never heard the
brand name of Catecyla.
But anyway, that's what it is.
It's a monoclonal antibody thatbinds to the HER2 receptor on
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cells and the HER2 receptor ison all cells anyway.
All cells have a HER1 throughHER5, also called epidermal
growth factors.
But what they're finding isthat it's upregulated and
therefore people with CFCs noteveryone, but you'll find that
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their HER2 is positive, for somereason it's just that one
that's upregulated, not theother ones, and so they've
developed a monoclonal antibodythat attacks that.
Remember, a monoclonal antibodyis an antibody that's been made
by your body to something thatthey're aiming for.
So it's got a place perhaps inthe entire program that you
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might have for healing, but it'sgot a.
So there's pretty much what'scalled immunotherapy nowadays,
with CFCs are fundamentally twokinds with CFCs are
fundamentally two kinds.
One is the monoclonal antibodypart and the other is the PD-L1
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blockers, called checkpointinhibitors.
But so with HER2, what'sinteresting too is HER2 is not
only with breast, it can befound with colon, it can be
found with, so it's not onlybreasts.
So, very important tounderstand, but they don't
usually look for it, which isodd.
But anyway, again, what ispreferable to understand is that
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HER2 is going to be positive ona group of people regardless of
.
There's no way to know whichpeople are going to be HER2
positive or HER2 negative.
But if you understand thatthat's just that your epidermal
growth factor number two hasbeen upregulated and that you're
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therefore, because what theepidermal growth factor says is,
when it gets stimulated, itcauses growth.
It's just one of the mechanismsthat continues the growth of a
tumor, just one of them.
Basically, if we're doing whatwe always talk about, which is
removing all the reasons whytumors occur, which is through
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our detox, and we're targetingthe CFCs with non-toxic
therapies based on theirmetabolism and we're reawakening
the immune system, then we'redoing all that we really can, or
all that's really necessary aswell, really necessary as well.
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So so the question, so so, somy thoughts on the cats silla
are it really okay?
So, since this is not such adangerous medication.
They all have poison.
But it's really even moreimportantly that you make the
decision based on your feelingand sense of things.
So a lot of times when peopleask this kind of question, their
feeling is they shouldn't, butthey have another deeper feeling
(43:59):
that says but I have to, I'mafraid if I don't, and that's a
conflict within based on nothaving enough knowledge.
So that's where you that you'vegot to really investigate it.
So what you need to understandis you know what are the, the,
these epidermal growth factors,why are they on cells, etc.
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And then, secondly, what is theadvantage to cfcs by up
regulating to have more of itaround?
And then you have to understandthe different therapies, how
they're produced and what they,which we're talking about
monoclonal antibodies, and thenwhat's their direct action on
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the tumor that is considered thegoal, and what are the other
actions that could not be, thatcould be considered adverse, or
are there other positive effects?
Because it's something you haveto decide.
And the reason I say that isbecause if you took my advice or
anyone's advice on what todecide and yet you still had an
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internal conflict, then thatinternal conflict will really
greatly inhibit healing.
So why do I feel like and thisis from on the Instagram I can't
really see, there's no names.
Why do I feel like the floor ismoving below me?
Well, if you feel like that,there's really two forms of
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dizziness.
When we use the term dizziness,we're referring to being
lightheaded just like oh, I'mdizzy, I'm going to fall right.
Or being on a boat where thefloor is moving.
Things are spinning.
They're both called dizzy, butthey're two different phenomena.
The first one is usually due tosevere dehydration or something
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else that's caused volumedepletion, volume of blood, and
dehydration is a probably themost common.
So if that happens, when youstand up, you don't have enough
blood volume that, even thoughthe arterioles in your legs kind
of clamp down to keep the bloodup there flowing up there and
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not go down into the legs, ifyou're severely dehydrated or
you've had blood loss oranything like that, you won't be
able to do that.
So you'll stand up and you'llfeel really lightheaded and you
need to sit down again.
All right, so that's one.
The other one is an inner ear,not a middle ear, not an outer
ear, but an inner ear problem.
And what the inner ear is.
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It's on three different planesand they're kind of like these
hollowed out stone constructedof stone.
Whatever they are, they'rethese hollowed-out tubes that
have in them little hairs thatform a part of the floor and as
they are moved they produce anelectrical signal that goes to
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the brain and gets interpreted.
So when you were a child and youwould spin around on purpose
fast and then stop, and it wasfun because you were still
spinning.
But you're spinning in theopposite direction and the
reason is because the fluid wasgoing this way while you were
going this way and then when youstopped, when you just stopped
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and kept going it, it caused youto feel it's called vertigo
instead of dizziness, it'scalled vertiginous.
You felt vertigo andfortunately that doesn't last
very long.
As soon as you know your body's, the fluid stops flowing.
But there are many people whowind up getting chronic vertigo,
which can be a real problem,and there are actually websites
(47:43):
and groups that you can join forthat.
So I don't really know.
So it sounds like for you it'sjust beginning and since you're
focusing on the fact that yourlegs can't you can't walk
because your legs are wobbly itsounds like that whatever the
subjective feeling in your headis not significant.
So you've got to find out whichone it is.
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So you've got to go to a doctoror any kind of clinician that's
able to help you figure thatout and then, once you know,
then you'd be best to go to aholistically alternative
medicine type of person in yourarea who would have the ability
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to evaluate you and treat youappropriately.
And you can look in yourjournals, you know We've talked
about this before the AmericanAcademy of Anti-Aging Medicine,
I'm sorry.
And there's also the AmericanAcademy of.
What is that one called?
I don't know why it's something.
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Everything's in Chinese, whatI'm trying to get an image.
Anyway, it's called theAmerican College for the
Advanced Medicine, also calledACAM, and the reason it's
important is because everyonewho's trained through there,
who's been trained by them andthey're very good, it'll be on
their website as having beentrained, and you can pretty much
be assured that they weretrained well for this, whether
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or not they remember and they doit correctly, and all that is
one thing, but the fact thatthey were trained well.
And I'm looking here right now,and so one of the notes here is
let us find an integratedphysician near you.
So you'd click on that.
All right, so I don't have yourname but the floor moving under
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your feet.
As I said, it sounds like it'searly on in the condition and if
you're focused mostly on thelegs moving around, if you're
focused mostly on the legsmoving around and you're not
really talking about anexperience that's going on in
your head and that there are noassociated symptoms like nausea
because if you were on a boatlike that you would be nauseous,
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so none of that is happeningThen you should maybe go to I
don't even know if there are anyholistic or, alternatively,
reminding oncologists, but youcan go to.
I don't even know if there areany holistic or, alternatively,
reminding oncologists, but youcan go to any kind of doctor.
Because the treatment forvertigo, first of all, is
finding out what's causing it,what kind it is and what's
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causing it, and eliminating thatcause.
But it also involvesdetoxification and everything
that we do.
But in the meantime, if thesubjective feeling is so
powerful that you actually getnauseated by standing up and
walking if you ever get to thatpoint then it's really important
to treat it and there's atreatment for it.
It's not available in Thailandfor some reason, but you can
(50:36):
order it from the US and, I'msure most other countries use it
because it works and it'simportant and basically it's
from the class of medicationscalled phenothiazines.
Yeah, all right.
So the medication, thephenothiazine, that would block
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there are actually two thatwould block the nausea
associated with this kind ofsensation, because imagine if it
was really active and youcouldn't not be dizzy.
It would be a bummer.
So it's used for that.
It's both the promethazine,which is commonly used, and the
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chloroparasine, which isbasically the other common one.
So they block that and you justdo them for short periods.
You don't do them for prolongedperiods, because these types of
medications, if you do them fortoo long, you can get kind of
bizarre psychological effectslike you'll use.
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I think I've never gotten aclear answer from people who are
doing it, but it's like they'reseeing bugs or things, seeing
things like that, and that's nofun.
You don't want to get that way.
So you don't take them for longperiods, but they will turn off
the nausea associated with that, because it's hard otherwise,
the nausea associated with that,all right, so anyway, so the
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lesser medication that's used inthat situation is called
meclizine, and meclizineM-E-C-L-I-Z-I-N-E that's usually
25 milligrams, probably threetimes a day, and you could be up
, go, go up as necessary anddown as necessary.
So what it does is that itactually.
It actually allows you to takecontrol of what you're doing,
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rather than having someone elsetell you what you what to do,
and I always prefer that.
Okay, so, anyway.
So meclizine, 25 milligrams,anywhere from one to four times
a day, actually stops thespinning.
That's fantastic, not just thenausea associated with it, but
it stops the spinning and it'sin the same drug category,
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you'll notice.
It ends with Z-I-N-E and youjust get meclizine and I've
never seen it not work on people.
So, 25 milligrams a day, we'reup to one to four times a day.
So here's the next question, andagain I don't quite have the
name.
The question is stage four orfive years into local recurrence
on same breast, other parts,stable surgery.
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So usually other parts, stablesurgery.
Stage four, stable, five yearsin local recurrence on same
breast, other parts stablesurgery.
Stage four, stable.
Five years in local recurrenceon same breast, other parts,
stable.
Okay, so anyway, when you sayother parts, I'm assuming that
you mean you might havesecondary locations of tumors
like metastasis, and so therewas a local recurrence on the
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same breast, other parts stable,and the question is surgery.
Right, so you've had a localrecurrence on the same breast
where apparently I guess somesurgery was done, either a
lumpectomy or a mastectomy, I'mnot sure you know.
You know the lateral mastectomy, so, anyway, a local recurrence
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just means it's growing on,usually on the scar, and that's
not unusual on the scar oraround it, because actually, as
it's being removed, the stemcells get out and that's
basically it.
And remember, our job is to notmake the body a hospitable host
to stem cells, meaning that thesoil they land in just is not
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compatible with them becomingstrong, but it is compatible
with us becoming strong, healthyand vibrant.
And then, what's an appropriateemail for reaching out to
podcast interviews?
Oh well, thomas at drlodycom,t-h-o-m-a-s at drlodycom would
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be an appropriate email.
Or hello at drlodycom.
Somebody's scraping my window.
This next question is I'm losinglots of weight on a keto diet
and with the breast hormonetherapy, one thing is to keep
energy.
So you're losing lots of energyor lots of weight on a keto
diet?
Well, that's going to keepenergy.
So you're losing lots of energyor lots of weight on the keto
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diet?
Well, that's going to happenbecause the keto diet actually
the goal, and I think we'vetalked about this several times
when one gets into a state ofketosis, which means that they
have predominantly ketone bodiesbeing made, which are breakdown
products of fat, and theybecome the central part of
metabolism.
When that's happening, you'rein a state of ketosis and of
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course that would happen ifyou're not eating enough carbs,
because carbohydrates will turnon the glucose metabolism.
So if you're not eating carbsand you are eating fats, that
will turn into ketone bodies andsince you're not eating
carbohydrates, your body will bebreaking down your own fats
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which is why we have fat intoketone bodies.
So the ketone bodies will beused for fuel.
They'll provide energy to thecells.
But when you say you're on aketo diet, you know often people
think they are and they'redoing it, but they're not really
measuring anything to know ifthey are.
They are and they're doing it,but they're not really measuring
anything to know if they are.
(56:03):
You know, so like they at leastonce a day doing your ketone
bodies and your glucose.
To figure out your glucose, theketone index, your gki, and
usually you want that to be lessthan 1.0.
It's hard to achieve just onfood, even if you're eating all
fat.
So in spite of what you'reeating, you probably have to do
one to two days a week of justwater only, just to keep you in
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a generalized ketosis, and soketosis will obviously prevent
the.
It prevents the.
In order to get into ketosis,you have to not have the carbs,
so there'll be no stimulus toproduce fat, and so body weight
will come down for that reasonand because you're breaking down
the fat to be used for fuel.
Yeah, so that's why you'relosing weight, which is not only
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perfectly fine but actuallysomething you want to happen,
unless you've reached the pointwhere you're cachectic, where
your body's actually consumingitself.
If that's where you get to thepoint is you've got to stop,
because cachexia is, it can bevery nasty.
It's way different thancatching a cold or anything like
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that or anything that's goingto involve one organ system,
because cachexia involves thewhole body.
It really evolves from the factthat people don't want to eat
or can't eat.
So in order to work with someonewith that condition, you would
work with them due to the causes, each separate part.
So if they can't eat becausethey're nauseous, or they can't
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eat because there's anobstruction or whatever it is,
you have to deal with that Ifthey don't want to eat, in other
words, they have no appetite.
If you have the luxury, thebest thing to do is wait and see
how long it would take forsomeone to get an appetite.
And if you didn't want to waitthat long, you can just have
everything ready when they comeover and eat.
But it's it's difficult.
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So that's where the use ofcannabis comes in.
Cannabis is very important forstimulating appetite.
Um and um.
It also have a will have abeneficial effect.
If anyone gets nauseous fromeating and sometimes it's just
that the person hasn't eatenenough over time so their GI
system isn't working that wellbut usually to get cachectic
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it's usually in someone withstage 4 that has gone to
multiple areas and is causingmajor biochemical alert systems
on different parts of the body,which is exhausting the immune
system and so the tumormetabolism our body gets turns
back mainly to a tumormetabolism.
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So that's the way to deal withit.
And you know, the other thingwe use with cachexia, as we've
mentioned many times, is um.
We want to heal the gut right,um, and so we're going to use
the glutamine, which is theprimary fuel for enterocytes,
small cell intestines, and it'sa fuel for cfcs.
(58:58):
However, it's also thenecessary fuel for lymphocytes,
which actually turn out to bethe cells that turn to become
natural killer cells and T cellsactivate that actually gobble
up and eat tumors.
So when you look at all therisks and benefits, the risk of
using it is far outweighs therisk of not using it, because
(59:20):
you have to adapt, adjust to thefact that a certain therapy
cannot be used by you.
So we're gonna find other waysof achieving the same thing.
There are many different waysof getting the same thing.
We've got several in Arizona.
Your thoughts on parasitecleanses Should we all do one
per year?
(59:40):
Yeah, I think we should all do,initially a good long one to
make sure that we've got themall, and then I think a one-year
daily maintenance would begreat.
You'd still be shocked if youcould manifest anything, but a
lot of people me for instancelooking came out anywhere.
So if you want to see somethingit's usually people who have
(01:00:03):
obvious worms and stuff thatthey could see all the time and
then they'd stop seeing them orthey diminish significantly then
that's noted.
Otherwise it's really hard toknow what benefit you're getting
.
But yes, once a year isfantastic, but actually what you
mean is a maintenance.
So you've already done anintensive first year, which
could be three to nine months,depending, or a year, and now
(01:00:25):
the maintenance would bedepending on how long that one
was, how long your initial onewas, can be anywhere from 14
days up to two weeks, up toeight, twelve weeks, and usually
the longer the better, becauseit does multiple beneficial
effects and can change themetabolism of the tumor, is not
(01:00:47):
central, so it's very good.
Now, ben is all criticizedlately.
Cfc is coming back worse afterfirst success Again.
I think we talked about thislast week.
Please send me what you'reseeing in that regard and then
I'll read it and then we cantalk about it next week.
But send me whatever you'reseeing about criticizing Finn
(01:01:10):
Vincente.
It was criticized before it was,before Joe Timmons used it.
It was called a dog D-word or ahorse D-word, things like that,
and they didn't recommend it atall.
They said it was dangerous andall that.
A dog D-Wormer or a horseD-Wormer or things like that.
They didn't recommend it at all.
They said it was dangerous andall that for humans.
Well, it turns out it's not.
Some were dangerous than theother ones and I've had hundreds
(01:01:33):
of people on all the differentBenzimidazoles, especially
fenbendazole, and the reason isbecause fenbendazole has gained
such popularity because of JoeTippins, and other people have
followed in his doing exactlywhat he's doing, with great
results.
But it's not that the otherswouldn't work right, and
(01:01:58):
researchers were not beingoffered grants to do it either.
However, joe Tippins came inand had already done it himself,
and it showed an incredibleeffect.
So that's how it came to be.
Otherwise, the medical worldfocuses on fenbenazole and
albenzol, and I'm not quite surewhy but I mean why they decided
(01:02:21):
that these are human and thoseare animal, but they're not.
As I pointed out earlier, whenwe're talking about mammals, we
all have very similar bodiesFour-chambered heart, two lungs,
four limbs, gastrointestinaltract Pretty much the same,
except there are differentrefinements and adaptations to
(01:02:41):
different parts of the centralnervous system, which is brain
and spinal cord, as well as theperipheral nervous system.
All right, you guys.
Green medicine All right, youguys.
I'm sure in the chat there'ssomewhere that people are
telling us all the answers toour questions.
Anyway, I apologize for thelate start today and I'll see
(01:03:05):
you tomorrow at the meeting.
Is it tomorrow?
Yeah, tomorrow my morning, yournight for the meeting, if
you're in that group, okay, allright.
Sawadikap and aloha, aloha.
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