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What if everything we've been taught about chronic inflammation and disease is fundamentally flawed? Dr. Thomas Lodi challenges conventional medical wisdom by explaining how inflammation isn't something to be suppressed, but rather understood as the body's intelligent response to unmet biological needs.

Diving deep into the biochemistry of chronic inflammation, Dr. Lodi reveals how pharmaceutical drugs like Humira target inflammatory molecules like TNF-alpha but create dangerous imbalances in the process. Meanwhile, natural substances like vitamin C and curcumin accomplish similar biochemical effects without the severe side effects, while simultaneously supporting immune function and overall health. This isn't merely theoretical—studies show dramatically lower inflammatory markers in people who adopt natural human diets centered around uncooked plant foods.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Dr. Lodi examines how our language shapes our perception of health and illness. By using terms like "disease" and "cure," we unconsciously adopt a framework that sees the body as making mistakes rather than adapting perfectly to its environment. This linguistic prison limits our understanding and options for healing. "There are no diseases and therefore no cures," he explains. "These are the body adapting to situations where biological needs aren't being met."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, good, so welcome to Sunday Night Live,
finally.
Yeah, on Sunday night andMonday morning it's actually now
live, because we're live nowwherever we are, and we might
even have some listeners fromNibiru.
You never know, and who knowswhat time it is on Nibiru?
They probably have clocks thatare not 12 hours, they may be 98

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hours or something.
On Nibiru, right, because youknow what is it.
It's like, what is it?
3,600 of our years is onerevolution, because they have an
elliptical revolution.
Thank you, elisa, thank you, andI love you all.

(00:41):
I do.
Thank you, fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.
What a beautiful group ofpeople.

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So, and let's see what we'resupposed to talk about today.
Wait, where is it?
Come on, come on.
You know what I think it is is.
We're not, you know, I guess,until I don't know, you know, I

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guess, until I don't know, youknow, some of us, some of the
carbon-based life forms that weare, I guess, actually can
interact pretty well.
Where the heck?

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Questions, okay, questions here, great, and then let's go back
to here Answers, answers,answers, answers.

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just for this.
Thank you, sharon.
And then we want to go back tohere just for this.
Thank you, sharon, and I lovehoping that happens.
You know that people actuallyhear.
Can you put your hand up to thecam for an edit?

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Okay, I'm not sure what I justdid, but I hope it was the right
thing.
Let me just fix this, okay.

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So how do you get aconsultation?
Here's what I do with theconsultations.
I used to do consultations andI can only do like six a day
because I don't put a time limit, so it's two, three hours.
We're done when we're done, andI was seven days a week.
There's a lot of people on theplanet and so I couldn't.

(03:30):
It wasn't working, and sothat's why I decided to have
these groups.
If you join the groups, if youjoin the CFC group excuse me, we
interact twice a week.
You tell me what's going on.
It's basically an ongoingconsultation twice a week, every

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Monday and Wednesday, and Ialways use Arizona time because
they don't change the clock.
5 pm Monday and Wednesday.
On Arizona time are themeetings and they go until
whenever they're done, untileveryone's had their questions
answered.
So that's essentially the CFCgroup because the CFC group also
has parasite and health andhealing.
So if you're in the health andhealing, it'll only be once

(04:19):
every other week.
If you're in the parasite,it'll be once every other week
week.
If we were in the parasite itwould be once every other week.
But everybody gets Tuesdayswith Darren and Vanessa and
everybody gets Donna.
So and you just join the groupsby going to drlodycom,

(04:41):
drlodycom, drlodycom, and righton there it will show you the
three different groups healthand healing, parasite and cfc.
Your wife has just been told shehas cfcs but she should take I
see all the stuff about horsestuff.
But okay, sounds like roberto,you sounds like a lot of
confusion.
And I hear you.
You got to get you.
You and your wife just join thecfc group and we can.

(05:04):
It's a detailed consultationwith you.
Everyone will hear.
You've got to be able to bewilling to talk about your
privacy.
But, um, because the otherpeople, but everybody's got the
same situation, so everybody isrespectful and you know nobody's
like and plus, you can't, noneof it can be taken off so no one

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could share it or anything.
You go to dr lodicom, dr lodicom, dr lodicom.
Right there there's threechoices.
Uh, yeah, thyroidism, all thatstuff, because it's all really.

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We deal with all of that.
And the thing about cfc is thatwe we have to balance all
systems.
So we deal with thyroid, wedeal with adrenals, we deal with
gastrointestinal, we deal withnervous system.
We deal with so you havehyperthyroidism.
There's a lot you need to do,but one main thing you need to
do is take a lot of iodine, butthat needs to be supervised.

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You can't just do it on yourown.
So join the health and healinggroup and we'll do that, we'll
take care of it and you'll befinished quickly.
It's not hard, it's easy to do.
The medical profession makes itdifficult, so that they can
keep you coming back.
It's easy to do.
The medical profession makes itdifficult, so that they can
keep you coming back and theynever help you anyway.
So, anyway, what I want to do isanswer these questions, because
that's why we're here.

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Remember, on these nights, onSunday Night Live, you've sent
in questions and, out of respectto you, I need to answer them,
because that's what I said I'mgoing to answer the question,
I'm going to answer them, and Iwon't be able to interact with
you folks, even though I lovethat.
So that's why I have the groups.
If you join the groups, we caninteract.
I don't know why I can't getthat across.

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It's not that difficult.
Someone help me, alice, help me.
I don't know if Hammy, ifyou're on, or any one of my
teams, please talk to thesepeople.
So I don't know.

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So what I I'm going to do is dothat.
Let me just get, because holdon one second, please.

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Thank you, so, all right.
So I don't know.
I hope that's all working.
Okay, good, all right, okay,okay, okay.

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Actually, to answer someone'squestion down here, I work with
everything because everything isrelated.
So, yes, how do you join theCFC group?
You go to drlodycom, drlodycom,drlodycom, and right away
you'll see the option of joininggroups.

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So do that, sherry.
So let me get back to thequestions.
Here we are Okay.
So, anyway, just keep in mindthat you all know because you're

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on.
So this is kind of a stupidthing to tell you, but if you
want to go on X or the newTikTok, you go at drthomaslodymd
, and if you want to go on allthe other ones Facebook,
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and I hope we edit out all thatbeginning, because it doesn't
need to be there and it will beall reposted.
Okay, so, let's talk about someof the questions, okay so.
Oh, and I don't want to loseyou guys, so how do I do it?
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you're new, I'm just trying tohelp you get there.
So hopefully my team is goingto get online here with you guys
and chat, okay.

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Okay, so we go to the firstquestion.
It is from Alex and it'sregarding chronic inflammation.
And it's regarding chronicinflammation.
I've been suffering withinflammation in my knees, ankles
, elbows and, just recently, mybig toe and thumb for 10 years.

(11:59):
The last few years I havedeveloped psoriasis too.
I also suffer with chronicfatigue and brain fog.
I'm 43 years old.
I refused the treatment theyoffered methotrexate and decided
to go down the natural route.
I tried although route is a punyou want.

(12:24):
I tried diet change, parasitecleanse, wormwood cloves, black
walnut supplements, et cetera.
Nothing has really worked.
Through desperation, I'vedecided to take a biologic
called Humira, which isAdalimumab.
I haven't started it.

(12:46):
My gut feeling is not to takeit.
That's a fantastic gut feeling.
I'm glad you're listening to it, so let's talk about what
you're talking about, all right?
So what you're talking about ischronic inflammation, so a

(13:12):
review on inflammation.
So a review on inflammation.
Inflammation is basically whenthere's an injury, some sort of
challenge or threat to theintegrity of your toe, or inside
your gut, in your heart,anywhere, the response of the
body is to send increased bloodflow to that area, as well as

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recruiting and bringing lots ofwhite blood cells different
kinds of white blood cells,immune cells, different kinds of
white blood cells, immune cellsand that increased flow allows
more white blood cells to getthere, more red blood cells to

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deliver oxygen and deliver allof the chemicals that they
produce to initiate the healingprocess.
Now healing is inflammation,right?
So acute inflammation is verydifferent than chronic
inflammation.
So acute inflammation is whathappens when you bang your
finger in the door and it getsred, hot, swollen and painful.
Those are the four cardinalsigns of inflammation Red, hot,

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painful and swollen.
All due to the same thingIncreased blood flow.
Blood's warm it makes it warm,it makes it red, it makes it
warm red and it makes it swollenand it's painful, and it's
painful because of the differentchemicals that are produced.
They're called cytokines, andwithin a few days, it's gone,

(14:45):
it's healed.
So chronic inflammation is whensomething, even if we don't
know what it is, is continuallyassaulting our body in either
one or multiple places, and ourbody has to continually do that.
Now, what happens, though, withchronic inflammation and I want
you all to try to picture thiswith chronic inflammation, with

(15:06):
chronic inflammation, let megive you an example.
If you haven't been, you have ayard and you haven't been out
there raking for at least a year.
So your hands are smooth, nocalluses or anything.
So you go out there and yourake all day and you come in,

(15:29):
they're going to be painful.
You're going to have a lot oflittle swollen areas of
inflammation.
You go out there the next dayand you keep doing it.
You keep in the next day andthe next day and the next day,
and what will happen is you'llstart to develop calluses.
So your body will say, okay,we're not healing this.
To develop calluses.
So your body will say, okay,we're not healing this, so let's
protect ourselves from it.

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And that's what happens.
So now the inflammatorycomponents that result in tissue
proliferation and growth andnew blood vessels to support
that new growth start happening.
Okay, that new growth starthappening, okay.

(16:11):
So chronic inflammation has awhole different set of chemicals
that are being produced by thebody.
One of those central chemicalsis called NF-kappa-beta, another
one is tumor necrosis factor,alpha, etc.
There's many, many differentkinds.
Okay, so, in chronicinflammation, if you can shut

(16:36):
down now, so, whereas acuteinflammation is necessary for
healing, chronic inflammationcan actually cause damage, and
it does cause damage and itunderlies every chronic
degenerative condition that wehave, from arthritis to
gastritis to pneumonia, to CFCs,to cardiac problems.

(16:58):
That underlying chronicinflammation is producing all of
these chemicals and otherthings that are sort of like the
body protecting itself from theassault rather than healing,

(17:24):
kind of like that.
Ok, so, so you were, so you were.
Now.
Here's the one thing I see Iwould love to talk to you about
this.
I wish you were.
You were on one of our callsbecause I would ask you.
You said I tried diet change,parasite cleanse supplements.

(17:46):
Nothing has worked.
So I doubt that.
So I would ask you what dietchange have you done, and for
how long?
I mean and how?
What did you really do when yousay diet change.
Because if you switch to ahuman diet completely, this

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would be gone.
And if you don't want to knowwhat a human diet really is,
then close your ears for asecond.
To know what a human dietreally is, then close your ears
for a second.
But a human diet, a real humandiet, the diet for which we are
fitted by nature, is raw, inother words, uncooked, fresh,

(18:39):
organic plants, from the fruitto the seed, which are nuts and
seeds are similar, or same Stems, leaves and roots.
The whole thing is food forhumans.
You know, anyway, it's if youate.

(19:04):
That One of the things we knowabout that.
When we look back at a studythat Dr Luigi Fontana did in
must have been in the early2000s, I think, because I

(19:25):
remember, you know, talking withhim back around then when I was
still in New York, and he tooktwo groups of people.
One had uncooked plant food,raw, vegan I don't like titles,
but uncooked plant food and fora minimum of three and a half
years.
Some of them were 20 years ormore, but a minimum of three,

(19:46):
three and a half years.
The other group, same age range, 18 to 80 something, ate a
standard, normal diet.
They weren't sick, they just,and then he, he measured, did
all sorts of blood tests andother kinds of testing, such as

(20:10):
bone density and blood tests.
A couple of things that reallystood out in my perspective were
that number one, crp C-reactiveprotein is a measure of

(20:32):
systemic inflammation.
So if it's high you've got alot of systemic chronic
inflammation going on, and ifit's low you don't going on, and

(20:58):
if it's low you don't.
So everybody that ate theuncooked plant food, animal or,
resulted in total bodyinflammation and you can feel
that if you ever start eatingjust uncooked plant food, you'll
see that your body changes.
So that's why, when you saythat you've tried diet, I know

(21:22):
you may have tried diet, doingcertain things, but it wasn't.
It wasn't the right thing, itdidn't work.
The parasite klems you usedwormwood cloves and black walnut
.
So, as I've mentioned before,100 years ago, or actually 120
years ago, before we were eversubjected to EMF and all the

(21:42):
other kinds of nonsense thatwe've been subjected to, our
immune systems were much morepowerful and in those days we
could easily keep ourselves freefrom parasites overwhelming us
by these herbs because they'reexcellent, excellent us by these

(22:06):
herbs because they're excellent, excellent.
Now our immune systems are soshattered by just living in this
century that we need somethinga little stronger.
And that's why, at this pointin time, I always recommend even
though I don't like to becausethey're drugs ivermectin, one of

(22:27):
the benzimidazole like fanbenzoin and men benzoin,
albinozol, niclosamide, and andthen a anti protozoa those are
for the worms and then an antiprotozoa all right, for the
parasites, and then anantifungal.
Now this inflammation in yourjoints, and now your toe and

(23:02):
your thumb.
Okay, we have names.
I mean, they, the medicalprofession has names for.
Oh, by the way, for the guythat asked for the guy that I
don't know if you're on again ornot, but you said, for somebody
who's supposed to be supposedlya doctor.

(23:24):
Well, not supposedly, actually,I am.
Actually I did go to medicalschool and did my residency,
internship, residency, and I'vebeen practicing 40 years.
I actually am a doctor.
Just, it's not supposedly.
So you can remove that wordwhen you're referring to me.
Okay, but, and yeah, I can'tfix PCs and I never will, and

(23:48):
they have nothing to do witheach other.
I hope you can put thattogether.
Anyway, whoever the guy was, so, anyway, so we have names for
it.
We call them arthritis.

(24:08):
Arthro is joint.
Itis means inflammation, and itcan be what we call rheumatoid
arthritis.
Which is the hallmark of thatis that the immune system is
involved right.
That is, that the immune systemis involved right and it's
called by the medical professionautoimmune conditions, meaning

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that the immune system isattacking the body.
The immune system never makesmistakes.
It's attacking.
Something that we refer to iscalled osteoarthritis and that's

(24:59):
just the wear and tear and isalways bending and lifting and
bending and lifting for years,is going to have wear and tear,
probably on their lower back andtheir knees.
So those are calledosteoarthritis and everyone gets
osteoarthritis to some degree.
But those who have professionsthat require them to really work

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certain areas of the body aregoing to have it more,
especially in those areas.
So now let me see if I can findyou guys.
There you are, because I wantto just make sure I'm doing this
all right.
So the you know Anyway.

(26:07):
Anyway, I don't know so, butanyway so.
And then there's things called.
There's something calledpsoriatic arthritis, where,
which again, these are, they'renot, they're not separate.
There's no disease called,there's no thing called
psoriatic arthritis orrheumatoid arthritis, or called
psoriatic arthritis orrheumatoid arthritis or
osteoarthritis.

(26:27):
These are just the bodyadapting to situations that are
not meeting its needs, right, so, in one way or another.
But psoriatic arthritis isassociated with, kind of like,
the large joints and psoriaticskin lesions, which is you can

(26:50):
know, or psoriatic a lot oftimes occur at elbows, knees and
places like that, but they canoccur actually anywhere.
But it's like a white scale,pink right, inflamed, and that's
the skin is exfoliating andthere's white flakes and stuff
like that, and that can beassociated with the joint

(27:13):
inflammation and so it's calledan autoimmune condition.
All right.
So now, could that be what'shappening to you?
Could be because you've got thelarge joints.
You're talking about the largejoints, not the small ones, so
that could be it.
That also is what they refer towith rheumatoid arthritis as

(27:35):
well, which is why they wantedto give you methotrexate.
Methotrexate is also achemotherapeutic drug, but it's
one of the things they use withrheumatoid arthritis.
So now you think you've doneeverything and you really
haven't.
But you want to and that's good.

(27:56):
You just need some direction.
I'm glad you're here so you canreally do what you know you
should do, alex.
So this Humira, the way it worksis it blocks TNF-alpha.
We talked about that right.
Remember, the central moleculeinvolved in signaling all the

(28:21):
other ones is NF-kappa-beta, andthen one of the next big ones
is TNF-alpha tumor necrosisfactor alpha.
So this drug targets it becauseit ends in what's the other
name?
It ends in OB.
Anyway, it ends in OB.
Any medical drug that ends inob is an antibody.

(28:45):
It developed an antibody tosomething, so this is an
antibody to TNF-alpha.
Well, what happens when you doone thing like that to the body?
You cause an imbalance and youcause a problem.
So what happens if you takeHumira?

(29:07):
This is what they say.
This is what the drug companysays.
Serious infections have happenedin people taking Humira.
Serious infections includetuberculosis and infections
caused by viruses, fungi orbacteria that have spread
throughout the body.
Some people have died fromthese infections.
And then they use that wordthat we don't use.

(29:28):
We don't use the word cancer.
Everybody who's new doesn'tgive us information.
We use chronically fermentingcells that does tell us what's
going on.
It's called CFCs.
So CFCs for children and adults.
Taking a mirror, the chance ofgetting a lymphoma or other CFCs
increases.
And there have been cases ofunusual CFCs in children,

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teenagers and young adults usingthese medications.
Some have developed a rare typecalled hepatosplenic T-cell
lymphoma.
This type often results indeath.
If using this, your chance ofgetting two types of skin CFCs
basal cell and squamous cellcarcinoma have increased.
So I agree I would not want totake it Now.

(30:19):
As it turns out, nature, god,has already it's part of the
system, and that is there arethings such as vitamin C, which
is a vitamin to us, not avitamin to dogs, cats, elephants
, only a vitamin to us.
You know the primates likechimpanzees and monkeys, and to

(30:45):
fruit bats and guinea pigs.
Other than that, all othercreatures in the world except
for zooplankton produce theirown ascorbate, because it's
essential to life.
It does a billion things thatare necessary for a healthy life
.
One of the things it doesspecifically blocks

(31:10):
NF-kappa-beta and TNFL.
But it doesn't just block it.
It doesn't just block that, italso stimulates immune function.
It shifts the polarity ordirection of the immune response

(31:35):
towards Th1 rather than Th2.
And Th1 is what we want toeliminate these situations.
So we want to be in a Th1.
So it helps the immune systemthere.
It stimulates the T cells, theNK cells, lymphocytes, which are
T cells, b cells, nk cells havewhat?

(31:58):
100 times more ascorbate inthem than is in a blood, which
means they concentrated becausethey needed the function.
So this enhances the immunesystem and that's why natural
substances don't just do onething, they do multiple.
So there it does, and you canlook it up.
Put in vitamin C or ascorbateand inflammation or TNF-alpha

(32:24):
and you'll see.
And inflammation or TNF-alphaand you'll see.
If you're on one of the groups,I would be able to share the
screen and I would show you.
Curcumin, curcumin You've heardof curcumin, it comes from
turmeric, and curcumin blocksTNF-alpha and curcumin blocks
TNF-alpha.
But it also modifies T cells, bcells, macrophages, natural

(32:52):
killer cells, dendritic cellsand neutrophils, kind of all of
them right so that they're stillworking properly.
It regulates the cytokineproduction, which are the
chemicals produced by thesecells in order for the effect

(33:13):
that they want.
So the way in which it works,in biology or at this level, is
that the white blood cell willproduce chemicals called
cytokines that have an effect,and those effects are what we
need.
So, for example, the body isproducing cytokines called
TNF-alpha and NFK-beta to tryand heal and deal with things

(33:35):
right.
So the white blood cells comein and they'll produce
interleukin-1, interleukin-2,and all that.
Anyway, there's no need to getinto those kinds of details,
just to know that that's whathappens.
So the curcumin is going toregulate cytokine production.
It's going to regulate.
It's going to block TNF-alphaand NF-kappa-beta.

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It's also an antioxidant.
It's also a prebi for to have ahealthy gut bio.
It helps the production of whenyou're eating the omega-3s to
turn them into their derivativesthat we need, which are epa and
dha.
It helps keeping the cortisoldown so we don't get completely

(34:24):
stressed out.
I mean, it's amazing.
It's used with arthritis, it'sused with cardiovascular
conditions, alzheimer's.
Now there's a product out.
I have nothing to do with it,it's just that I use it myself.

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It's called Bosmeric.
It's made by a doctor in NewMexico, dr Sunil Pai, and
Bosmeric is a combination ofcurcumin, boswellia, which is
also frankincense and ginger,and it's also got pepperine,
which comes from pepper, whichhelps improve and increase the

(35:05):
absorption of these, because weusually can only absorb like 3%
of the curcumin we ingest, so itincreases that.
Anyway, he's got it all in oneso you could take two or three
of those three times a dayinstead of any drugs.
Could take two or three ofthose three times a day instead

(35:29):
of any drugs, um, and then youcould go on a real human diet
after you've done a juicecleanse colonics.
You've taken care of yourself.
We balance your hormone.
I mean you can get well andactually naturally is the only
way you get well.
You don't get well with a, withan artificial substance.
An artificial substance maytake away certain symptoms like
pain etc.
But it's not dealing with thereason you got it and therefore

(35:53):
it'll be back.
But you should, alex, join ourgroup.
So this is Denise.

(36:14):
How did I, you know I became whoI am?
I don't know how I became who Iam, it just kind of happened.
I was born.
Thank you so much.
So I had a horrific lungwormpost COVID-19.
It is impossible to get themedical field to understand the
parasitic properties of theinfection.

(36:34):
Can you prescribe niclosamide?
It also blocks the spikeprotein.
I have long COVID andEpstein-Barr.
I am in need of niclosamide.
I have also had a sinusparasite of unknown origin which
was accompanied by mastoiditis.
This was five years ago, butCOVID has caused a brain bleed

(36:57):
stroke and I'm very worried.
My email is above.
If you can refer me to aphysician who understands or
perhaps consults for thenecessary medication, all right,

(37:18):
perhaps you can make the fielda little better.
No, they don't like me, sothat's okay.

(37:39):
I don't like them, so it worksout, um, and I close my night.
It's very reputable Regarding adoctor to help you with this.
Now, our clinic would be ableto help you with this.
We are pretty much focused withpeople who have CFCs, so that

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would be you know the problem.
However, you might call and saythat you'd like to speak to Dr
K or to Dr Bart Well and see ifthere's any way they can work

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with you Other than that who youknow.
I don't know where you are, butthere's lots of.
You know, naturopaths areusually very willing to do this
kind of thing and, yeah, I don'tknow, so I don't know where you

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are.
It's really hard to answer yourquestion of who to refer you to
, who in the.
You know, if you look up ACAM,the American College for the
Advancement of Medicine, a-c-a-m, it'll give you a list in every
state of the physicians they'vetrained in chelation and

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whatever else, and it'll tellyou what they're trained and
certified in and what they do,and so you can look up ACAM and
find maybe someone near you.
You can also look up theAmerican Holistic Physicians
Association, something like that.
Physicians Association,something like that, and there's

(39:37):
also the orthomolecularprofessional organizations.
Anyway, there's lots of.
Fortunately, the US still haslots of people that are doing
that, so I'm sure you can findit really so.

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Not this here?
Why does it get in my eyes?
I put the air conditioner on.
It goes right to my eyes.
There we are good.

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Okay, are you guys Good?
Thank you, mara for doing that.
Good, good, good, good.
You guys are amazing.
Thank you.
Yeah, it's really not hard toget into these groups, okay, so,
yeah, all right, so let's goback to our questions Now.

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One thing I want to talk to youabout COVID, denise.
Why does it go on my eyes?
It makes my eyes dry, isn'tthere?
Yeah, okay, I'm not going toworry about another technical

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thing.
There is no COVID.
I hesitate to say it, but andthere's all kinds of stories
about it, there's all kinds ofstories about it.
There's all kinds of storiesabout what was causing the

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problems associated with it.
But if you looked at the datafrom 2012, throughout all of
2020, in all countries, we lookat all-cause mortality.
That means people die fromanything.
It was the same.
It did not increase therelative proportions throughout

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all of the years 2012, 2013,.
Up through 2019, the relativeproportions of people dying from
CFCs, people dying from strokes, people dying from accidents,
whatever the dying from strokes,people dying from accidents,
whatever the relativeproportions, you know, 2%, 3%,

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apa were the same and the basicoverall total cause mortality
was the same.
2020, overall total causemortality was the same, but
there was less flu and there wasless this and less that, but
more COVID.
There was less flu and therewas less this and less that, but
more COVID.
So what do we think happened?
We know what happened, but in2021, when they introduced the

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savior from Pfizer, all of asudden we got an increase in
all-cause mortality, but weattributed it to other things.
Anyway, but we attributed it toother things Anyway.
And, by the way, if you don'tknow it, the PCR test, which is
how they diagnose COVID, right,polymer chain reaction, right,

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polymer chain reaction rightDeveloped by and invented by a
PhD scientist named Cary Mullis.
He got a Nobel Prize for thatdiscovery because it has changed
research, the ability to doresearch.
People can now really look atmolecular and atomic

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constituents of different things.
It's just.
It's just incredible how it'shelped, because it amplifies the
molecules, mara, thank you.
So it amplifies the molecules,mara, thank you.
So it amplifies these molecules.
Polymerase chain reaction.

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Nobel Prize Changed research.
Now, he said, and he had anongoing argument with a man by
the name of Fauci telling himthat it was not diagnostic.
You cannot diagnose with it,because you can find anything in

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someone's body.
We probably have one ofeverything in the universe in
our body and if you find that,you're going to amplify it, but
does that mean it causedanything or no?
It's used for research toidentify what's going on, but
it's not diagnostic.
That's the point.
And he tells people it's notAll right.
So, and he was a healthy, smartguy, very vocal, very vocal but

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suddenly, in August of 2019, hedied, just in time for us to
have the PCRdemic.
Why do I call it a PCRdemic?
Because we now were able todiagnose everybody with PCR,

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even though it's not adiagnostic tool.
And now the guy who invented itand got a Nobel Prize for it
wasn't around to bring it up.
So here we are.
I understand you got sick, okay, and I'm not saying you didn't
get sick.
I want you to use the rightunderstanding.
That's what they want.
You got sick, okay, and I'm notsaying you didn't get sick.
I want you to use the rightunderstanding.
That's what they want you tobelieve.

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They want you to believe that.
Okay, I'm just clearing it up.
Just like we don't want to usethat ridiculous astrological
sign, we're going to call itchronic prefrontal cells.
For the same reason, we're notgoing to use that word COVID,
which I think means covert ID,cov id I think it's the stands
for covert id because they'regonna that's the ultimate goal

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they get us chipped, but anyway.
So definitely sick, and peopleare getting sick and still
getting sick.
What is it due to?
That's the question.
Because we know what it's dueto, then we can probably help
ourselves resolve it.
And although it's been putforth that it has to do with

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snake venoms and things likethat, which may be involved but
that's the main thing is morethan likely 5G, and we're seeing
what 5G does and we know thatthere were never any studies
done to for safety, just likethe everything they would need

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to have done so, but we do knowthat it was a military weapon
always.
We were promised in 2019 and2018, we were told, as soon as
we had 5G we'd be able todownload movies in like three
seconds and blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.
Well, I don't see any increasein downloading time at all.

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And why did they rapidlyinstall them during lockdowns?
They do cause particular, andthey know 68 gigahertz do cause

(47:36):
particular, and we, and theyknow 68 gigahertz.
Oxygen is no longer able to hangon to hemoglobin, is no longer
able to hang on oxygen andyou're dead instantly.
So I don't know.
It's not a communication device, it's a weapon.
So anyway, I pretty sure thatthat's what's going on.
And if you look at on a map of5g map, you might see where you
live and where you work and whatdensity of 5g is there.

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You go, louis, that's a goodone Anyway.
So not at all saying youweren't ill.
You were, and people are stillgetting ill, but I just don't
want to use their words.
So what would I recommend Firstof all, for anybody who's sick

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with anything?
You start by cleaning out.
You got to clean up.
We're full of garbage, we'rejust full of garbage.
There's no way to avoid it andthat's you know all we always
talk about a good, thoroughjuice, cleanse, colonics,
lymphatic work, going to sleepearly.
You know all the things we talkabout movement all day, all the

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things that are necessary, andthen taking the right, eating,
the right food within the righttime, with a six in a six hour
window, stopping five hoursbefore sleep, going to bed by
nine.
Just got to do that, got to do.
That's it.
The way to get the health comesin from only one.
There's only one way to obtainhealth and that's by living

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healthy.
There is not another way.
Can't buy it, coerce it,negotiate it, demand it.
You only can earn it.
So you earn it and you can.

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Now part of cleansing isgetting rid of parasites, et
cetera.
So that's nice.
So now.
So, doing all that it takestime You'll start feeling better
and better and better andbetter.

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And Press I don't know if you'veever listened to any of them.
There's two doctors, prettymuch, that have been in the
current era, showing the likely,the extreme likelihood, that

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there's no such microorganism ikentity known as a virus,
because the word originallymeant poison is what it usually
originally meant.
And the whole theory, you know,know, the whole germ theory,
etc.
Is it?
But anyway, the viruses.
So one of them is, well, two ofthem.

(50:37):
One was actually a forensicpsychiatrist, very bright guy,
kaufman Kaufman, and then theother guy is who, cowan?
Look them up, thomas cowan andand and somebody kaufman, and

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watch their stuff on on viruses.
So that's the other thing.
Because you're saying you haveepstein-barr as well.
You know, everyone, we all haveepstein-barr.
But what is it what?
Everyone, we all haveEpstein-Barr.
But what is it?
What are we talking about?
We don't know.
I'm going to tell you realquickly, a real quick thing on
viruses.
Okay, and this is in virustextbook, I mean biology
textbook.
A virus has.
It consists of an.

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It's got a shell, a home skin,whatever A glycoprotein.
You know glyco stands forcarbohydrate, so it and so not
the kind of carbohydrates youeat and turn into sugar.
So remember, carbohydrates are,are involved in structure as
well.
So it's a glycoprotein.

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Uh, you know david martin'spretty much on it.
Anyway, I know they had oneplanned coming out of Brazil
called Sears S-E-E-R-S Systemic.
I forget it doesn't matter.

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Anyway, let me get back tomatter.
I knew it.
Let me get back um to um, okay,so whatever.
So it has a glycoprotein coat,it's got a shell, right the
capsid, and inside it's got afragment of A fragment of a

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nucleic acid, either RNA or DNA,some sort of genetic
information and a few enzymes.
That's it.
It doesn't eat, it doesn'tdrink, it doesn't breathe, it
has no metabolism, it doesn'thave any excretions, it has a
waste and it cannot procreate.
Therefore it does not meet thecriteria for life.

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It's not alive.
That's why the old joke whichis not really a joke what's the
difference between true love andherpes?
Herpes is forever.
That was the joke.
Why?
Because if it's not alive,you're not going to kill that
which is not alive.

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So what a virus is, according tothe, what they them the
rockefeller guys, is that it is,uh, it has uh, its landing
module.
Its feet have a predilectionfor or like a certain kind of

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cell.
So they might like liver cells,so we call them hepatitis virus
.
Or they might like lymph nodes,or they might like the throat
we call them you know where weget our colds and they might
like the nose.
Whatever cell type they like,they attach to it.
So they attach to it with theirenzymes, open up the cell and

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they insert their geneticmaterial, which gets
incorporated into your cell'sgenetic code, your DNA, and then
that capsid falls away, thenyour cellular machinery will
reproduce it because it can'tprocreate.

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And it wasn't anything but adelivery mechanism from a
genetic material.
So was that?
How did that?
Tell me?
How could that have?
How could that have happened?
No mother, no father, nothing.

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It doesn't make sense.
However, there are things thatour cells do.
When a cell is attacked in ourbody, like we drink some poison
and our stomach cells are allgetting damaged the ones that
learn how to deal with it sendmessages out all to all the
other stomach cells.
They send out little DNApackages in a glycoprotein code

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that like stomach cells, andthey're called exosomes and
they're the same size as what wecall viruses, which is 50 to
about 200 at most, nanometers.
So can you tell the difference?
No, is there a difference?
No, so what I'm trying to sayis that we don't know, I don't
know, I don't.
Whatever.

(55:52):
The whatever virus is whatever,but that's not now.
Did they make something likethat and is it being going
around like and and and?
Are we, are we?
Are we getting it?
Are we are we?
Is it coming into us andbecoming part of our?
I'm not sure if that's part ofit, but I don't think that's all

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of it, because, remember, atthe beginning of 2020, you're
watching the news which I didn'twatch.
I watched Rumble and stuff likethat, but anyway, they had
pictures of people in Wuhanstanding at a bus stop and
falling over dead.

(56:33):
We got these original, thoseimages.
No longer you can't find those,they're gone.
That was just to get into oursubconscious and say that, my
God, I need help.
The vaccine is going to help me, okay, anyway, sure, what I'm

(56:59):
trying to say is I think most ofthis is EMF, because we know
that we can reproduce almost anykind of group of symptoms that
would be called this disease orthat disease with specific
frequencies.
So cleansing, eating, right,then what?

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Faraday clothing is the onlything I can think of.
Faraday clothing Site name.
Yeah, was there anythingnefarious on the C-19 swabs?
They stuck up in your nose.
Yes, it's called graphene oxideand that's why they stuck it

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way up in your nose and theyturned it like that and people
cry.
Let me tell you, if you came tome and you said I think I have
a lung problem or I think I havea potential infection of the
lung, because that's what it'ssupposed to be, covd the covert
ID was supposed to be a lung.
It was basically a lungrespiratory.

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So what would I do?
I'd take out a stethoscope andI'd listen to your breathing all
around, do perhaps x-ray, andyou know if I heard anything.
If I didn't, I wouldn't.
And then, being a good doctor,following directions, I'd get a

(58:31):
throat swab, but I wouldn't needto go up into your nose past
your sinuses, just like Iwouldn't need to put a swab into
your rectum or your ear or therespiratory.
Anyway, they and they put itway up there and they went right

(58:53):
there.
Now, why would it work?
Because there's something upthere deep into your nose, deep,
deep, deep, that connects toyour brain.
It's a little thin, thin bone.
It's called the cribriformplate and you get graphene oxide
.
Why do you want graphene oxide?
What is graphene oxide?
Graphene oxide is simple Carbonatoms, like six carbon atoms,

(59:19):
six, anyway, connected to carbonatoms, and they are connected
to another six carbon atoms.
It's just change of these.
It's these lattices of carbonthat fold and they kind of the
properties.
Because, remember, carbon isthe basis of biology.

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Everything is carbon based.
That's when we call organicchemistry is the chemistry of
carbon compounds.
That's what organic chemistryis.
The word organic has come tomean don't add any poison to
food when you're growing it, butthat's just another not to do.
It's not organic.
Feces is organic, worms areorganic.

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Anything that's carbon-based isorganic.
These machines, these computersand phones are what they call
silicon-based.
Why is that so significant?
Because if you look at theperiodic table, you've got
horizontal rows and verticalcolumns, and the vertical

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columns mean that all the atomsin that column have the same
reactivity because they have thesame number of electrons in the
outer shell.
Guess what's right below carbon, silicon?
So you can have silicon-basedlife forms.
It's a whole question.

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Anyway, what you need to do isso Faraday clothing I was using.
The ones I get are from LAM,l-a-m-b, I don't know.
Did they change their name?
Yeah, but they have t-shirtslike pants that are like you.

(01:01:15):
You can wear them, you can wearthem out, you can wear them for
pajamas, and then they haveunderwear.
So what I would recommend is,uh, the pan and a cap, and so
what I'd recommend is thet-shirt and you can wear it
under other things to cover allthat area, and then the pants,
if you want to, especially atnight sleeping, and then the the

(01:01:42):
underwear.
Get us a pair of underwear thatare larger than what you
normally wear, so that you canwear your own underwear
underneath it, and now you don'thave to wash this Faraday
underwear because it's notgetting dirty as often, because
to wash that it's got to be coldhand-washed, not in the machine
, because Faraday clothing meansthat it's got these lots of

(01:02:05):
vertical lines of either copperor silver which block.
Now someone's referring there toblue light.
Blue light is part of actuallythe spectrum and we need it

(01:02:27):
during the morning.
It's healthy for us during themorning, I mean out in the
sunshine, not out on thecomputer, but out in the
sunshine you'll get blue light,which is good.
It stimulates things and allthat.
So the reason you don't want itat night is because it
stimulates things and you wantto go to sleep.
So, yeah, that's why theseglasses that I have are all have
that protection.

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Anyway, I hope I just want,denise, I want you to understand
that you don't have long.
Covid or anything.
Andrew Kaufman Dr AndrewKaufman and Dr Thomas Cohen
pretty much talk about viruses,not the way I do, but I hope I

(01:03:12):
made it clear because it shouldbe clear.
Next is Ember.
Well, ember, fantastic, that'sbeautiful, thank you.
And I'm not at all married,thank God.

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And the only reason I say thatis because I'm always really
happy alone.
I don't know why.
I do know why because I'vealways been alone and I love
people and I love to know why.
I do know why, because I'vealways been alone, you know so.
But, and I love people and Ilove to hang out, but you know.

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And then the other thing is whatI and I hate the law.
And when you get married, youmake a legal contract out of a
relationship, and I considerrelationships sacred.
Here we're making a legalcontract.
Now why do I hate the law?
Why would I say that?
Am I like an anarchist?
This guy's a communist.
Whatever you think, I don'tknow.

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The reason I don't like the lawis because the law is made by
legislators in governments andparliaments or Congress.
And you see, I live here inparadise and they're building a
resort next door.
I apologize for the noise andyou see, I live here in paradise
and they're building a resortnext door.
I apologize for the noise and Ihope this is helping.
So, anyway, but the law appliesto only the proletariat, it

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only applies to us poor people.
It does not apply to the kingsand the queens and the bishops
and the princes and theprincesses and to the presidents
and to the prime ministers,unless they need to sacrifice
them.
Otherwise you don't for amoment think that Billy Boy and

(01:05:05):
his wife Hillary are going toever face no.
And Obama and his wife Hillaryare gonna ever face no.
And Obama, obama, obama.
You think he's ever gonna faceanything other than I don't know
his husband, michael, or no?
Yeah, so I don't know.

(01:05:36):
That's why I don't like the law,because it only applies to us,
to control us.
It's not like respect for thelaw, the rule of law.
Well, what is the rule of law?
The rule of law is the rule ofis how do you control the masses
?
It's not.
How do you?
It's not.
It's not that which is correct,righteous, what you is
righteous.
The law was if they changed thelaw.
And the law is that anybody whodoesn't wear a mask and doesn't

(01:05:59):
get injected is now considereda criminal, as the rule of law,
just who makes the laws.
So that's why I don't the lawsthat I respect.
God me, I'm never going to walkoff a third or fourth or fifth

(01:06:21):
or sixth story building becauseI kind of respect the laws of
gravity.
I'm never going to plant anorange seed and then try to
negotiate a mango, but I justkind of know it.
Plant orange seeds, you getoranges.
Plant tomato seeds, you gettomatoes.
So the laws of nature arebeautiful, right, and so those

(01:06:50):
are the laws I respect.
So marriage, getting togetherwith somebody, if you have a
religion or whatever, and vowingand expressing your love, is a
fantastic, beautiful thing.
I just I would never want tomake it a civil event, you know,

(01:07:10):
where some clerk signs it andsays, oh, you're married.
That's not marriage.
Marriage is between two humanand um and god, it's a sacred
thing.
So I wouldn't there.
And so and I think when you andalso these, these civil
contracts, you know what they do, but you know, you know what a
civil contract is saying rightMarriage.
It says I love you, but if youowe me, it's a prenuptial.

(01:07:38):
It's also putting a negativeinto it.
Why would I get married withsomeone if I'm probably going to
, maybe going to end it, thenwhy get married?
So it puts a negative into italready.
So it's really good Together,yeah.
So I love that.
Why get married?
So it puts a negative into italready.
So it's really good Together,yeah.
So I love that.
Get together and let's vow orwhatever it is, just express our
love, this beautiful thing.

(01:07:58):
So I'm always correcting words,that's all.
But anyway, ember, thank you,thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, june 10th.
Oh, I see it shows me what timeyou wrote.
Well, I'm only gettingquestions from June 10th.

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Amazing.
Anyway, join our groups, amber,that way we can talk.
Emmanuel, another one, hi.
I'd like to have Dr Lodi's takeon, or insights on, the

(01:08:42):
following Apparently, somenanotechs have been found in
some ivermectin brands, based onthe researches of Dr Edward
Group.
Here is the link of the videofor references.
Is Dr Lodi aware of this and,if so, is there any safe brands
he knows about?
Well, here's the thing wasreally happy when ivermectin was

(01:09:20):
considered bad and foreboding.
I loved that.
Then, when I saw it gettingpopular and I saw it even
becoming now being againrecommended by you know, by them
and being used as a repurposeddrug, etc.

(01:09:42):
I realized that we're introuble now because, yes, they
will do something to it If theyknow whatever.
They know that we're that wetake, we, the public take.
They will mess with it, periodthat there's no question.
And so it's not just ivermectin, please understand that, it's

(01:10:06):
everything Vitamin C, vitamin A,vitamin D, fenbendazole.
If it's popular, they'replaying with it, period they are

(01:10:27):
.
They're a level of evil thatyou cannot comprehend.
All right, so by knowing that,you'd say, okay, so how do I
protect myself?
And the question is the answeris you'd have to have actually a

(01:10:48):
a your own spectrophotometer.
You know you'd have to have.
You know I found one for 60,000and I can't afford it.
But you know one that you couldhave at your house mass
spectrophotometer.
If you had one, you couldactually analyze the molecular

(01:11:11):
components of anything that youhave.
Other than that, you don't know.
So there's the problem.
So we don't know.
Now there are chemical tests,so we've got to find
laboratories and we'd have totest, get things tested.
So we just don't know.
So it's not just ivermectin,whoever is doing that, whatever
people do things like that,they're not doing it to expose

(01:11:33):
the truth.
They're always doing it fortheir own fame.
It's not just Ivermectin, it'snot just they're going to do it
because everybody's onIvermectin.
So you know we have to be verycareful about what's going on

(01:11:57):
the food.
You know, if you stop eatingfood in packages period Cans and
packages you can't eat them,can't trust them.
Jars can't trust them.
You couldn't trust them before,even when they weren't putting
that stuff in it, because whatthey were putting in it and they
were telling you about it.
You still ate it anyway, likeyou know, these drugs that you
cannot pronounce, that arekilling you.

(01:12:20):
I read the ingredients.
I don't know what the hell itsaid, but I'm eating it anyway.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Fantastic man, that's great.
I read the.
So do I check out mine?
I check out what I can.
You know, I have.
There's one lab I have accessto here, thailand, but doesn't

(01:12:46):
do everything and it's veryexpensive.
So, but it doesn't doeverything and it's very
expensive.
So, anyway, what does it comedown to?
It comes down to you're goingto have to like, before you know
, when Joe Tippins got started,like nobody knew, they weren't
doing anything to it.

(01:13:07):
Then, as soon as we know aboutit, if you know about something,
let's keep it down.
If we know something's working,don't do that.
So here's the thing how do youshare with your brothers and
sisters something that would behelpful without turning it into
something that will kill them?

(01:13:27):
It's not an easy thing tofigure out, all right.
So how can you reach out to me?
Go to the groups, go to mydrlodycom and join a group and
we can connect twice a weekdirectly.

(01:13:49):
Everybody, I really.
That's why I have the thegroups?
Because there's no way I coulddo consultations.
I was doing them daily, sevendays a week, and there were so
many I wasn't getting to.
And I you don't just do oneconsultation with someone and
then say goodbye because I aregonna.
I need blood tests and stufflike that.
So it goes on and on, andpretty soon I just know I can't

(01:14:12):
do it.
You left messages at the clinicArizona Clinic 480-834-5414.
That used to be the number.
I don't know.
480-834-5414.
That used to be the number.
I think that's a ask for aClotilde.

(01:14:34):
Ask for Clotilde.
Is that not the number anymore?
See, hey, you know, I'm just.
I'm just owner, so no need tolet me know.
Let me see what is the phonenumber.

(01:14:56):
Are you a robot?
Yeah, I'm a robot, okay.
Okay, where is it?
Where is it?
Where is it?
480-912-3414.

(01:15:16):
Wow, 480-912-3414.
Since December, you called480-912-3414.

(01:15:41):
Okay, nicole, nicole doesn'twork with me anymore.
Forget Nicole, she doesn't workwith me anymore.
She never worked with me.
She was very kindlyvolunteering her time, but she's
not associated with me anymore.
So I don't know what message ison Instagram.
I don't know anything about awebsite.

(01:16:03):
Hamid, let me see.
Can you write a message tohello at drlodycom Hello at
drlodycom, right Right and askto connect with either FAH,

(01:16:26):
f-a-h or H-A-M-M-I and tell themwhat's been going on, because
they'll be able to help you withit, okay, so please, I hate to
see these problems like that.
I'm looking at the websiteOasis.
I don't know.
The picture they have of melooks like my high school

(01:16:48):
picture.
I don't think they'll.
I'm an old man.
Now, where is it?
Where are we?
Okay, let's get anotherquestion answered.
So another question, okay now.
So, thank you, amber, getjoined, all right.

(01:17:20):
So the nanotech aboutivermectin brands?
Yeah, I'm sure.
How do we find one?
That's not Okay.

(01:17:46):
Well, you guys are still askingthese questions that tell me
you're not listening.
Very well, I don't cure anything.
It's not that way.
Your son's dear friend is 40,married and father has a

(01:18:06):
four-year-old, dying of afour-year-old Wait, wait.
Is the father of afour-year-old and is dying at
hospice from a glioblastoma.
Glioblastomas are prettydangerous, pretty rapid, and
you've got to make sure.
I mean I can't tell you howoften it's related to the mouth,
dental.
I mean if there are any rootcanals, if there are any

(01:18:27):
extractions by regular dentists,if there are any implants,
titanium implants, if there'sany metal, any of that stuff in
there, it's going right.
That's 100% of the time it hasto be taken care of.
You call Dr Emma Abramayan inGlendale, california.
Emma Abramayan, d-r-m-a-d-d-sat gmailcom.

(01:18:54):
The best biological thing.
That's what you got to do,number one, and clean things out
.
And then there's other thingstoo.
But you got to start there andjoin my group because I can't do
it.
I can't tell you everything Idon't know.
We can't do it.
I can't tell you everything Idon't know.
We can't do it.
I can't just have thisinformation.

(01:19:15):
We'll invest on a 40-year-old.
I need way more information.
That's going to join the group,the CFC group.
We can interact, I can askquestions.
We can do this.
That's why I have the groups.
Everybody.
Please understand that I can'tthere.
I have the groups.
Everybody, please understandthat I can't.
There's no way I don't.
But number one find Emma,absolutely, and I would love to

(01:19:37):
Colleen.
So let me please get on andlet's get let's.
I feel the help to people.
It's amazing because gliosdon't go away, but they do If
you do the right thing.
So CFC group please.
So what do we do about thenanotechs in there?

(01:19:58):
You know what has it whatdoesn't happen.
We'd have to check everything.
We'd have to have everythingchecked by, you know, mass spec.
So I mean they're even puttinggraphene oxide in dental
anesthetics.
It's like, you know, it's warfolks, they're after us, they're

(01:20:24):
after us.
What do I think about nicotine?
You know Brian Artis.
I mean he got really famousquickly about this thing with

(01:20:46):
the snake venoms and nicotine.
There's no one answer.
It is multiple things.
You've got to remove the causesfor CFCs to develop and then
you've got to provide everythingthe body needs to be healthy.
If nicotine is part of that,then it is Now.

(01:21:07):
Nicotine is important becausenicotine actually is part of a
neurotransmitter, nicotinamide,we have, you know, in our brains
, which is why it's so easilyeasy to become addicted to
nicotine and why it's harder toget off nicotine than it is
heroin or cocaine or otherthings, because it's actually a

(01:21:31):
part of the neurochem orneurochemistry.
All right, so fenbendazole,medbendazole, albendazole are
all pretty much the same.
Why are there no studies onfenbendazole with humans?
Because they didn't do anystudies.
That's why there's noinformation on it.
Why is there information onmedbendazole with humans?
Because they did do it and theydidn't do studies with

(01:21:51):
med-benzo on animals Becausethey decided this will be for
animals.
This will be for that.
And then Joe Tibbins comesalong and takes the med-benzo
and he has nothing going on atall after being told to go to
hospice.
For what?
Five, six, seven, eight years,nine years now?
And he took med-medazole, whichis for animals.

(01:22:13):
No, there's no thing foranimals and things.
We all happen to be animals, bythe way, because we move around
and our anatomy and physiologyis really, really, really close
to gorillas and chimpanzees andstuff like that really close dna
98, 99.
Not saying we came from them oranything like that.
I'm just saying we got afour-chamber heart, so does a

(01:22:34):
cat.
We got a four-chamber heart.
So does a goat, so does a dog,a horse?
Does that mean we came fromthem?
Don't get hung up on weirdstuff.
Biology is biology is biology.
Things that are animate,they're animated, they're
animals.
Things that are vegetables thatdon't move usually, and um, and

(01:23:00):
then there's earth and fire andwater, and these are the basic,
basics, basics.
And if you can prescribe it, doyou think it's going to be any
better or safer coming from apharmacy, you know.
So we all have to be extremelycareful about everything we're
taking.
How do we do that?
We've got to find a lab thatwill do a do a mass spec on it

(01:23:24):
to find out what's molecularlyin it.
And if we all and you join thegroups, what we want to do is
all get together.
If we all chip in our money, wecan get certain things.
We don't have to spend a ton ofmoney to get a lot of different
substances evaluated and knowwhat we can use.
We've got to come together.
We've got to do this together.

(01:23:45):
We can do this together.
We can't do it separately.
None of us have the resources,except for William Henley, henry
Gates III, and you know.
I have a question why is he andFokkerberg and a few of the

(01:24:08):
other ones the slob Across theslob?
Why are they still breathing?
I don't understand.
All right Now, mario.
Hello, my name is Mario.

(01:24:29):
I have been dealing withpsoriasis since the age of 17,
and I'm now 47.
I've been dealing withpsoriatic arthritis since the
age of 30.
I would like to ask youropinion.
Yes, well, I had a fellow withpsoriasis so severe that every

(01:24:50):
morning he literally had two orthree inches of flakes on his
bed.
They had to change his sheath.
It was everywhere.
It wasn't just predominantly onhis elbows and stuff, knees,

(01:25:11):
anyway, pretty severe.
He had it for quite a while.
So put him on a juice cleanse.
Within two weeks it wasclearing up.
I think he went for a monthDown to very minimal.
Then I advised him to eathealthy and I taught him what

(01:25:34):
that was within all the things Italk about.
And then, as soon as he ate alittle while he ate like about
four or five weeks we'd do awater fast and then we did a
little and we did that a fewtimes and the juice a few times,
and he was pretty muchnon-Soriatic.
That's what we did this is atrue fact Back when I was living

(01:25:55):
in New York, which is in theearly 2000s.
So there are ways of actuallydealing with these things.
The problem is, most of us arejust not willing to do it.
We want to be able to takesomething that's going to get
rid of it, because there's no it.
We repeat it repeatedly.

(01:26:15):
All we need to do is to changeour biochemistry so that it no
longer needs to go through thatparticular adaptation.
So, yeah, the answer is yeah,okay, you guys, please you, I'm

(01:26:43):
gonna have to develop a coursefor you guys.
Good, you're using the word cure.
What are you curing?
What does it mean?
It means you're curing adisease.
What's a disease?
Is it a thing?
It's a noun, obviously Adisease.
You put an article before andthe A makes it a noun.

(01:27:05):
Noun is a person, place orthing.
It's a thing.
It's a disease.
It's a thing.
So rheumatoid arthritis is athing.
No, autoimmune.
No.
Cfcs.
No, they're not things.
They don't exist as things.
They're the body adapting to asituation where the biological

(01:27:26):
needs are not being met and oncethose biological needs are
provided, that adaptation is nolonger required and that process
nothing process no longeroccurs.
You got to stop using theirwords.
There are no diseases andtherefore there are no cures and
there is no treatment and thereis no prognosis and there is no

(01:27:48):
prognosis and there is nowhatever staging.
All those words are part of theRockefeller train.
It's the death train and I'mgoing to tell you where the last
stop is.
The last stop of theRockefeller death train is to go
into the hospital and right tothe morgue.
The last stop the morgue.

(01:28:11):
Last stop Morgue.
Jump off the Rockefeller deathtrain.
Stop using their words.
I don't use the word pandemicbecause there wasn't a pandemic.
Well, there is one now.
It's called CFC.
It's what has been for a whilebecause there wasn't a pandemic.

(01:28:34):
Well, there is one now.
It's called cfc, so what hasbeen for a while.
But there wasn't somebody touse that and there was no.
It's covered, you know, in thai.
In thai the word lie is gohoksounds close to cover, and 19 is
zip gal.
So I used to tell everyone I'mgoing to take COVID zip gal,
it's a gold zip gal.

(01:28:54):
They kind of laughed but didn'tchange anything.
They still wore masks, probablyat home, probably while
sleeping, I don't know.
Anyway, I was having a hardtime, a really difficult time.

(01:29:20):
I've got to come up with a wayof changing your vocabulary.
I've got to come up with apsycholinguistic course.
You can't use words thatsupport an idea.
That is not true, because ifyou are in that paradigm, you're
in that show that you, then youcan't.
You can't, you can only if yourperceptual set, the way in

(01:29:43):
which you view the universe,you're viewing it through a
perceptual set whose scaffoldingis your language that is based
and those words participate inthe construction of the
assumptions upon which you haveyour perception.

(01:30:10):
How important is perception?
Everything, it doesn't matterwhat's out there, it matters how
you perceive it To the person,who's a schizophrenic, who's
having an extremely emotionalargument with somebody we can't
see.
Have you ever seen someone onthe street like that?
You might just say, ah, he'scrazy, he's nuts.

(01:30:32):
But this guy is going, or thislady is going through something
quite emotional and you don'tsee it and I don't see it, so it
doesn't exist.
You know, birds hear sounds thatwe don't.
Cats hear sounds that we don't.
Dogs hear sounds.
Does that mean they don't exist?
Right, they smell things, seethings that we don't.
Cats hear, sounds that we don't.
Dogs hear sounds.
Does that mean they don't exist?
Right, they smell things, seethings that we don't.

(01:30:54):
We're not.
They have a broader range or adifferent range in the
electromagnetic spectrum andother other kinds of spectrums.
Does that mean they don't existbecause we don't perceive them?
We don't, they're not that we,we cannot bring them in through
our senses and then proceed.
Sensation and perception aredifferent.
We don't know, you can't saythat.
So, whatever that person who ishaving that argument with

(01:31:16):
someone that we don't see,what's 100% relevant is that
that's their perception andthat's their reality.
Your reality is not the same astheirs.
So when I talk about howimportant is perception.
It's everything.
It's what you consider reality,the paranoid, the person who's

(01:31:40):
afraid that you know this groupof people are after them and
they aren't.
That's called paranoia.
When they really are, it's notparanoia, but, or whatever, it's

(01:32:01):
our perception, which is ourreality, and our perceptual set,
in other words, the way inwhich we view and are able to,
is based upon our language,which is our thoughts.
Is there a difference betweenthe word and the meaning of the
word?
If the word's no longer there,is there still the same meaning?

(01:32:22):
Anyway, I'm not, just don'tanswer it.
Try to think about it for thenext 20, 30 years.
But you change your language.
Go watch my Fair Lady.
Rex Harrison in my Fair Ladysays look at her, a prisoner of

(01:32:43):
the gutter, condemned by everysyllable she utters by right.
She should be taken out andhung For the cold.
The bloodied murder of theEnglish tongue.
Anyway, brilliant, brilliant,brilliant, brilliant, brilliant,
brilliant.
Rex Harrison did a fantasticjob.

(01:33:04):
Anyway, it was all aboutlanguage and he said, yeah, I
could pass her off as a princessnobility.
He goes.
I don't think so.
Just change your language.
Language is everything.
So be very careful of it,because it will kill you or heal
you, all right.

(01:33:25):
Anyway, it is time to saysawadikap, namaste, namaskara
and aloha everyone.
See you next week.
And I don't know what to sayabout technology and me, but I
apologize.
Please bear with me at thebeginning of these things,
because I don't have anyone hereto help me and, according to
some of the listeners, I'm ajoke.

(01:33:48):
I'm a joke Anyway, so the jokecan't always get on.
So please, thank you so muchfor waiting.
I appreciate it and I'll seeyou next week and join the group
so we can talk twice a week.
It's easy, that's what I got.
Bye-bye.
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