Dive deep into the controversial connection between parasites and chronically fermenting cells (CFCs) with Dr. Thomas Lodi as he challenges conventional understanding of disease. In this eye-opening discussion, Dr. Lodi explains why we should abandon fear-inducing terminology like "cancer" in favor of focusing on the actual metabolic process occurring within cells.
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Dr. Lodi presents compelling evidence showing how parasites—which likely affect nearly 100% of the population—can directly cause or support CFCs by dismantling immune responses. He outlines a comprehensive treatment approach involving multiple anti-parasitic medications, explaining that these same mechanisms also target the metabolic pathways CFCs depend on for survival.
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but basically I just want toremind everyone we have three
groups, and the reason we havethree groups is a couple of
reasons.
Number one is that we caninteract directly.
You know, on these Sunday NightLives we cannot do that.
I have to answer the questionsthat were sent in.
But on the weekly Zoom meetingswe have, if you join the groups
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, we interact.
You ask a questionspontaneously it doesn't have to
be sent in spontaneously andthen I can ask you a little more
detail about it.
We can get into it further.
So it's much more.
It's like a consultation, andthat's another reason is I don't
do consultations.
So this is, in fact, if youbelong to the CFC group, is I
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don't do consultation.
So this is, in fact, if youbelong to the CFC group twice a
week, every Monday and Wednesdayevening, we'll be able to have
this actually a better situationthan this, because we answer
questions that come upspontaneously and I do a lot of
teaching on that as well.
And, as you know, we've gotDarren and Vanessa.
We've got Donna with herteaching a raw way to life, a
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lady who's been raw herself for36 years.
We've got Kathy's Corner whohelps you straighten out your
wow, your experience from havingthis situation, and that's it.
We still have some more thingscoming up, but that's actually
pretty busy because that'salmost three or four nights a
week that you know you'reinvolved in things.
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So it's the parasite groupwhere we focus on parasites, and
the health and healing is wherewe focus on everything and
anything that's necessary toheal Right, which is, you know,
from moving around to healthyrelationships, to fasting,
eating healthy food, all thatsort of stuff.
So please, those of you who areasking me questions, understand
that I cannot Thank you.
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Cheryl, understand that Icannot really get into the
questions that you're asking now.
I have to answer the questionsthat were sent in, otherwise
it's not fair to them.
So by joining the group, we canhave these interactions weekly,
all right, and we're onInstagram, facebook, youtube,
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TikTok are at Dr Thomas Lodi, md, and that's D our Thomas Lodi,
as you probably know.
Okay, first question, adrian.
My wife has recently beendiagnosed with melanoma.
I've got a money house, excuseme.
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My wife has recently beendiagnosed with melanoma.
She's been using fenbendazolefor about two months.
She has noticed that the longcylindrical-shaped tumor on the
other side of her right arm hasreduced in size significantly,
about 20%.
The other tumor, located on theouter surface of her right arm
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and just above the elbow, whileconsiderably smaller than the
other, has not changed in size.
It is suspected that thesmaller tumor may be the primary
melanoma Question.
We live in Australia where it isextremely difficult, if not
impossible, to get hold ofivermectin.
How important is it to useivermectin with fenben?
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Second question are there anysuccesses with just using fenben
on its own?
Well, specifically for melanoma, I'm not sure I haven't seen
anything like that, but we doknow that it alone specifically
has worked for Joe Tippins whohad small cell lung cancer.
All right, we're not pausedanymore, and there's been many
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other anecdotal reports ofpeople using fenben and having
similar results with differenttumors.
But this brings up a broaderunderstanding, a broader
question that is overlooked andthat is we were taught and we
continue to be taught that thereare different types of right
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CFCs for those of you it's yourfirst day is the real
physiological process that'sgoing on in the situation that
we call cancer.
We don't use the word cancerbecause it's full of fear and it
conveys no information and itdoesn't help us come up with a
plan for resolution.
So there's no need and there'sno.
Not only is there no use inusing it, but it's harmful
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because it causes extreme fearand that directly suppresses
your immune systems.
It's just not worth it.
It's just not a term that makesany sense to use.
Okay, so we use CFCs,chronically fermenting cells.
So we're told that there aredifferent types and there's not.
Because, remember, in order forsomething to be a CFC, a
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chronically fermenting cell,which is known as cancer, it has
to have only one metabolicprocess going on, and that is,
it has to have what's calledaerobic glycolysis, also called
the Warburg effect.
All right, that defines CFCs.
So, whether it starts in theovary or the skin, or the
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melanocytes, or the basal cells,or the squamous cells, or in
the retina or in the pancreas,it doesn't matter where it
starts, other than the location.
Because of the location and thefunction of that organ, the
process is different.
That's the only difference,right?
Other than that, fundamentally,if it's not engaging in this
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metabolic process called theWarburg effect, which is aerobic
glycolysis, which meansfermentation, now, cells usually
do not ferment unless they losetheir oxygen or they are
anaerobic.
But, for example, when you runup the street, you run to
whatever.
Your maximum is that, whetheryou're a runner or not, you run
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to your mat, your maximum, andthen your legs start hurting.
The reason they're hurting isbecause you've exceeded your
aerobic capacity of getting theglucose and oxygen into the
mitochondria.
You've exceeded that processand now, in order to stay alive,
in order for your cells tofunction, they revert to the
default method of glycolysis,also known as fermentation.
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All right, so if a cell hasexceeded that by heavy use or
there's a deprivation somehow inthe delivery of oxygen or
anything like that, then thecell will ferment.
However, if there's oxygenaround, it will go back to
what's called the normalrespiration, called oxidative
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phosphorylation in themitochondria.
That's what happens, right.
So you run up the street, yourlegs are hurting, you go because
of lactic acid production.
You go, breathe out your carbondioxide.
That balances out yourmetabolism again, and now you go
back to using your mitochondria.
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So your legs aren't hurtinganymore and you can walk, and
all that All right.
So that's.
But in CFCs, about 60% or so ofthe mitochondria have been
rendered dysfunctional andbecause of that reason, it
cannot revert back to oxidativephosphorylation under any
conditions, and so it's learnedhow to do it.
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Whether it's in the presence ofoxygen or not, it's not going
to go through oxidativephosphorylation, it's going to
ferment.
These are chronicallyfermenting cells, all right,
just wanted to remind you that.
So we're talking here to Adrianabout his wife with melanoma.
That's what's happening, and inmelanoma it happens in these
particular cells that are partof our dermis and our skin,
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called melanocytes, and thereason it has a worse reputation
than basal cell carcinoma orsquamous cell carcinoma, which
are other skin CFCs, is becauseof its location right.
And with melanoma it's verystrange in that it can actually
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start anywhere.
It can start on your skin,where you can see it, but it can
also start in places you can'tsee, like the inside of your
rectum.
It can start in your retina,which is the inside of your eye,
like the inside of your rectum.
It can start in your retina,which is the inside of your eye.
It can start in places that youjust you would never know.
So you know so because of thatit often, by the time it gets
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detected, even if it's in theskin, by the time it gets
detected, it's already gotteninto blood vessels and
lymphatics and it's spread allaround, and that's the main
difference between those two,between that and the other two
main types of skin CFCs.
So that's an.
So your question about fen-benis you have to understand that
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for Joe Tippins, it workedexclusively.
We did a couple of other thingsvitamins, things, vitamins but
that was pretty much it, andit's kept in that way for what?
Since 2017?
How long is that?
So we know it worksindividually in all sorts of CFC
locations.
Right, we're going to nowchange the word types to
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locations.
Okay, because that's what it is.
Period, and there we go.
Instagram, all right, okay,cool so, but I'm sure if I
looked around, I would find thatthere have been people with
melanoma that have done that.
However, I would not rely onjust one right, and so your
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question here was how importantis ivermectin?
Well, ivermectin is probablythe most well-studied, and the
reason it's studied is becauseit's a drug that had won the
2015 Nobel Prize, so it got alot of attention and it was
legitimate for researchfinancing and it's gotten finan.
It's and it's been found inevery cell line to work.
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So, yeah, if you can getivermectin, I definitely get it,
and even you do.
You the you adrian have to.
You know, have someone helpyour wife for a while and just
go outside of the country andget it.
Or if you could have someoneget it, bring, bring it to you.
It would be very nice.
Hopefully it's coming off ofwhatever that terrible list is
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that Fauci made up a couple ofyears ago Because you can get it
.
It's readily available in Indianpharmacies and other pharmacies
readily available.
It's used all over the world bypeople with onchoceriosis,
which is river blindness, soit's well known.
So there is a way to get it.
Try the Indian pharmacies.
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If you join our groups, the CFCgroup, we have listings of all
different, because I can'tremember them all, but there's
all sorts of places we havefound that will send different
parasite or these are parasitemedications.
In addition to that, I'm in thelast final stages of developing
a relationship that will senddifferent parasite or these are
parasite medications.
In addition to that, I'm in thelast final stages of developing
a relationship with thispharmacy that will be able to
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send it to everyone.
So that's fantastic.
We're really close with that.
But you don't so for two reasons.
One, for the parasites, and wehave to assume we all have
parasites.
It's just we all have parasites.
Imagine if the CDC says whatand when.
They're just looking atAmericans.
So an American is supposed tobe one of the first world
countries that's protected fromthese sorts of exotic third
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world conditions.
Well, that's no longer the caseworldwide at all, in any
country.
But so the CDC is saying that80% of people are probably have
parasites of some sort, whichmeans those those would be, that
would be as a result of theirtesting and the information they
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have compiled onepidemiological conditions of
where it's occurring and whatareas and what circumstances, et
cetera.
So they put all that togetherand they're saying 80%.
So if they're saying 80% issomething that's almost
impossible to diagnose, in otherwords to figure out what it is,
it's got to be closer to 100%.
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And it is when you understandthe whole idea of parasitology
and all that and what thedefinition is.
So anyway, we all have them.
Just assume that.
And especially with the foodyou're eating, it doesn't matter
.
Remember, even if you're avegan, the roundworms which are
part of the.
You know there's different onesflatworms, roundworms, but
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flukes.
But the roundworms spend halfof their life cycle in the soil
right, whereas the life cycle ofthe soil right, whereas other
their, their.
The life cycle of otherparasites are different.
You know they have to gothrough like a snail and then a
fish and then a human.
So anyway, there's various lifecycles, but the roundworms
actually have to go through thesoil.
That's part of their, their,their life cycle, which means so
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if you're a vegan and you'reonly eating plants, you're still
at risk of having them involved, you know, getting exposed to
them.
The problem with them is thatwe now know that they can
directly cause CFCs and thenfrom other indirect ways they
can actually support CFCstremendously.
By shutting off or dismantlingthe immune response for
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themselves to protect themselves, they also wind up protecting
CFCs.
So what you want to do is tocover all bases.
You want to get at least threeof those kinds, like ivermectin,
if you can, fenbendazole oralbendazole, any of the
benzimidazoles Membendazolewould be the choice.
Actually, it's hard to sayMembendazole by the studies,
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however.
They haven't studied.
Fenbendazole would be thechoice.
It's hard to say Fendazole bythe studies, however, they
haven't studied Fendazole inhumans.
They've studied it in animalsand that's why they say there's
no research in humans, becausethey haven't studied it.
Of course there's not, but JoeTippins throws all of that makes
all of that irrelevant, right,because he is a human and it
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works.
And then the third one.
What I would suggest is calledniclosamide,
n-i-c-l-o-s-a-m-i-d-e, and youcan get that from niclosamcom.
So you want at least two orthree.
Two or three would be better.
And then you want to get anantiprotozoal, such as nitrous
oxonide, which is also a linea,or tinnitazole, but
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antiprotozoal because there'sworms and there's protozoa,
which are single-celledorganisms.
Now that's for the, and then anantifungal.
And that's for the parasiticapproach, and there's also
prosaic quantal.
There are other ones, I'm notmentioning them all parasitic
approach, and there's alsoprosaic quanta.
There are other ones.
I'm not mentioning them all,but keep in mind that the
mechanism by which it shuts downthese parasites, those
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mechanisms, are also what keepCFCs going.
They're the mechanisms thatCFCs require to be alive, to
work, so it shuts them down too.
It's pretty coincidental.
It makes one think what are wetalking about here?
Are we talking about onecondition that has different
manifestations?
And the answer's never reallybeen fully elucidated, because
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why there's no researchspecifically into that area?
All right.
However, we do have a lot ofamazing evidence, such as Royal
Raymond Rife, who found twolittle microorganisms in the
nanosize.
Who found two littlemicroorganisms in the nanosize
and he would find theirfrequency, send it the exact
same frequency and kill them.
Because, as you know, withfrequencies they're additive, so
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if you send in one, that's thesame as the other, the wave is
much bigger.
And that's what happens when awoman singing opera breaks a
glass.
Woman singing opera breaks aglass.
The frequency of her voice, ofher sound, is exactly the
frequency of the glass and it'sadditive and it's just too much
energy for the glass and itbreaks.
And that's what happens withthe Reif machine.
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So, anyway, so the questionthat's been since we've been
looking at medical journals andpublications, you know, way back
to the 1850s, 1860s, up to the1890s.
Right around the turn of thatcentury, some of the top medical
people were talking about CFCsas if they were a parasitic
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condition or an infection sortof thing.
Parasitic condition or aninfection sort of thing.
But that's been hard to prove,actually impossible to prove,
because we're talking aboutnanosize.
Nanosize is one billionth of ameter, right.
And when we think of mostbacteria and funguses, we're
thinking of micro size,micrograms or micrometers, right
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, instead of nanometers.
So in other words, we reallydon't know what's going on at
that level, and we're not.
We could know because we've gotthe technology now, but we're
just not looking into it.
Who's we?
We are the fundedpharmaceutical companies now.
Who's we?
We are the fundedpharmaceutical companies Now.
So, whether you are using a, somy answer to you, adrian, is
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that you've got to get at leasta couple more and also get the
antiprotozoa.
Remember, we're exposed toprotozoa.
You've heard of amoebicdysentery.
People get that.
Entamoeba.
Malaria is a protozoa.
There's lots of them.
But there's Giardia and youknow many, many.
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So we cannot ignore them.
All right, and remember,whatever we, if we find, somehow
find a microorganism, we haveto understand that it exists in
an ecosystem.
It doesn't exist alone.
You know, led to believe by theway the medical people look at
it, that you have pneumonia,right, you've got an infection
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in your lung and they got asample of it and they say it's
streptococcus or it's whatever.
Well, that is the predominantorganism, but there's a
microsystem of othermicroorganisms in there, many,
just like a human ecosystem.
If you wanted to get off thegrid with a group of people,
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you'd have to say, well, we'vegot to have at least one plumber
, one carpenter, one chef, oneeducator.
There are certain people youneed to have an ecosystem,
survive and progress, and it'sthe same with them.
This brings up the whole idea ofprobiotics and prebiotics.
If you're taking probiotics,which are usually a combination
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of the microorganisms that weneed for health, but they don't
find the food they need to live,they won't stay, and that's the
problem.
They just won't be able tocolonize.
And where do they get theirfood?
They get their food from whatwe eat.
That's their food, so we'refeeding them.
So whatever microorganisms arein our body, whatever dysbiosis
we have, of any kind, is adirect result of what we're
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feeding them and how we'reliving.
That's just the way it is.
So if someone is doing this thethree anti-helminthics, worm
anti-worms, one or twoanti-protozoa, one or two
anti-fungals, which are, youknow, nystatin and diflucan,
which are the two main ones Ifyou're doing that, how long do
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you do that?
Well, these worms, for example,can lay up to 200,000 eggs a
day.
Up to 200,000 eggs a day.
Some are only 2,000 eggs a day,some are 70,000 eggs a day, but
there's a lot of these eggs.
Each one of those eggs canbecome 50,000, 70,000, 200,000
worms.
And so, even if you take a gooddose initially of everything and
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you actually which is almostimpossible eliminate all of the
adults, you've still got all ofthe eggs and the larva, and the
eggs will be hatching, and soit's just kind of a rolling
process, and don't think of itas the number of organisms that
are colonizing the term that weuse is biomass.
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It's just that you can imagine,every two weeks and they're on
different cycles that they laidthe eggs, right.
So basically they always haveeggs, hatching lots of them and
laying new eggs.
So that's why we do three weekson one week off, three weeks on
one week off, three weeks onone week off.
And how many cycles do you do?
If you have CFCs and yourliver's, okay, you'll be
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monitoring your liver function.
You could go up to probably 10to 12 cycles, right, and then
you could do it yearly, maybetwo or three cycles, just to
make sure that you're killingany parasites that have survived
.
However, in the interim betweenthose annual three months, I
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would also recommend taking thedoses of ivermectin, of
mebendazole, niclosamide, fortheir anti-CFC stem cells.
So remember, when a CFC isgoing to metastasize, a cell has
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to break off from the tumor andit has to go through six major
steps in order to successfullyarrive somewhere and cause a new
tumor growth.
So the beginning of that is thestem cell has to break off and
that's how it all begins.
So if you're taking low doseivermectin low dose compared to
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what we take for a full oncleanse ivermectin, fenbendazole
and niclosamide they're notgoing to get very far.
Stem cells won't make it, andthese medications have been
shown and proven.
If I could have everybody onZoom I would be able to share
with you the research.
You can see it, it's not justme talking.
It showed how they actuallypreferentially eliminate the
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stem cells, which is kind ofnice, because what they're not
doing preferentially is alreadyeradicating the whole situation
in the first place.
So it's fantastic, good, good,you love the microbiology.
It's amazing.
I did too, but too bad.
We learned all the wrong things.
But having that informationallows you to and that
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vocabulary allows you to reallyexplore this.
So Chris here's I'm just Idon't like to jump out of our
question, our brief set inquestions but chris here's
saying can you please confirmthis list is sufficient for
everything except toxoplasmosis?
Toxoplasmosis is a microorganism, that's a protozoa that has
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their part of their life cycleis through cats and you can get
exposed through cat feces in anyway.
It's not just house cats andstuff, so there's ways of
getting exposed.
A lot of people sleep withtheir cats or they have many
cats.
It's really easy to get exposed.
Now, most of the time it's notgoing to do anything in a fairly
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healthy human, except none ofus are healthy anymore.
No, most of the time it's notgoing to do anything in a fairly
healthy human, except none ofus are healthy anymore, no
matter how much work we, nomatter how well guarded we live.
What I mean by that is that wemake sure we're going to bed
early, we make sure we're movingaround, eating organic food,
reading in a six hour window,reading human food, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera.
We're doing all those thingswe're still exposed to.
We're eating human food, etcetera, et cetera, et cetera.
We're doing all those things.
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We're still exposed toincredible amounts of EMF and 5G
that we've accumulated over thelast 120 years.
So prior to that, in 1900, ahuman being on Earth would, if
there was a parasite problem,could easily just take a few
herbs, such as Holda Clark hasdefined and others.
But at this point now ourimmune systems are so weakened
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and so unbalanced that we reallyneed something stronger at this
point in time.
So for that reason,toxoplasmosis, which would
normally be an opportunistictype of situation you know you
more readily can colonize.
Now they can get into yourbrain and other different organs
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and they form these cysts andstuff.
So it can be pretty bad, verybad, very much associated with
CFCs, especially brain CFCs.
So how do you deal with them?
You deal with them by.
You know there are differentantimicrobial substances such as
bactrim.
You all know bactrim and it'salso known as scepter.
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I wish I could share this withyou.
You know I'd love to show youthis research, just so you know
that I'm not just making it allup.
I I wonder if I can share this.
I can't share it.
Anyway, the usual medicationsfor toxoplasmosis are the
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pyrimethamine and thesulfadiazine, or Bactrim, which
is trimethoprim,sulfamethoxazole, and that's a
great combination and verysteady, high doses.
But again, as I was alluding tobefore, none of these organisms
are isolated.
They've got others like themaround to help maintain the
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environment that they need tolive in Right, and I'll give you
an example of that.
I attended a lecture.
Let's see what was that it hadto be 20 years ago or more.
In Japan it's a Japaneseversion of the annual conference
they have in LA, specificallyusually at the Sheraton at the
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Universal City.
It's called the Cancer it's notCancer Cure I can't remember
the name of that conference, butanyway they have the same one,
the same guys involved, in Japan.
So I was there over 20 yearsago and there was a presentation
made by an oncologist who livedsomewhere in Japan, outside of
Tokyo, and he had in hispresentation.
He had CT slides, picturesbefore and after, and he was
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only treating with antifungals.
Now what's amazing about thatis that his results were
phenomenal, you know.
So then people like Simon Cheneycame up later and said well,
cfcs are a fungus.
Well, they're not a fungus.
What it turns out is that theyhave such similar metabolic
requirements to be alive thatthey're often living together.
Like I said, you're never goingto find an isolated
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microorganism.
They live together because theysupport each other.
And so what this doctor wasfinding out he didn't quite
understand it, but what he wasfinding out was that, if he can
remove the funguses from thepicture, that the contribution
they were giving to help thecfcs is gone, and can you
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imagine how strong that powerfulthat and abroad the uh help was
from that one microorganism.
But because by eliminating the,the, the all, the yeast and
funguses, many people had cleanscans, all right.
So imagine, here we are, we'vegot it all.
We've got worms, we've gotprotozoa, we've got funguses.
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And it's not that they are,it's not the germ theory kind of
idea, they are.
It's not the germ theory kindof idea.
It's just that they understandthat it's actually the Pasteur's
theory or the milieu.
And that is because of ourdysregulated immune system, our
dysregulated hormonal system.
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We don't eat food, we eat otherstuff, et cetera.
We live our lives like oppositeto the way you would live if
you wanted to be healthy.
Because of all that, we've gota disproportion of the organisms
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we don't want high and the oneswe do want low.
Because of all this stuff,because of our immune system
being dysregulated, becausewe're feeding them food that
they like, not the food thatwould promote the growth of the
healthy bacteria, healthymicroorganisms.
So it really comes down to diet,attitude and meditation,
understanding and then gettinghold of the right medications.
So I'm not sure if I answeredyour question, but I might've
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come close.
Okay, let's see what.
The next question is when wasthat?
I know it's there.
Oh there, it is Okay cool.
But anyway, you and your wifeshould join the CFC group so we
can, because there's more thanjust you know.
When you have a situation thatCFCs, you don't want to just
rely on one or two modalities,because you're dealing with a
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situation that is like biologyat its best.
So you need to be usingeverything you can, so
everything that you can, to makeit impossible for the CFCs to
exist.
So join the group and you'llget those protocols and all that
.
We can help you work withwhatever local doctor you have.
So this is Lily.
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I'm following your protocol fora parasite cleanse.
However, I'm still strugglingwith swelling, particularly in
my legs and back.
I do lymphatic massages dailyand drink plenty of water to try
to help overcome.
It is still rather bad.
Also, I've always struggledwith sleeping, and I think that
this is related to my problemswith parasites.
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Lately I have noticed that mysleep is worse if I take
antiparasitics later than 4 pmand causes me to stay awake for
many hours after going to bed.
What do you recommend?
All right, you're following myprotocol and I wonder what that
is.
I don't have a specificprotocol, but if it's
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appropriate to you.
So I think you're probablyreferring to ivermectin, one of
the benzimidazole, as I wassaying before.
Yeah, but remember, theprotocol that would be
appropriate for any one personwould just require a little more
understanding of all theconditions that are going on
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your travel history, lots ofthings that we could fine-tune
it.
But we could also use theacupuncture meridian test, which
was perfected by Dr Simon Yu inSt Louis.
It's pretty amazing.
By looking at these points theycan pinpoint situations and
also what will help them.
But to refine the protocolAnyway, but you're doing that
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and you're still having whatthis question is inferring is
that the parasites were thecause, or are the cause, of your
leg swelling.
The parasites were the cause, orare the cause, of your leg
swelling.
He said struggling with yourlegs and your back, meaning your
lower back, I'm sure.
So you see, if you were on agroup, I would ask you questions
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.
For example, when you're sayingleg swelling, you must be
talking about the entire leg.
Is swelling up, right If it'sincluding your back, it's not
just your feet.
So when we just see feet orankles, we think of the heart
slowing down, not being able topump strong enough, or
overwhelmed by high bloodpressure, or there's different
ways that would cause that kindof swelling.
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But if it's up to your,including your whole legs and
your back, it could still bethat, but it could also be other
things.
There might also be someswelling in your hands and arms
that you're not aware of.
Anyway, there's a lot of thingsthat need to be done to find out
really what's going on with you, right?
Do you have a normal albumin?
That's number one.
Anyway, there's many things weneed to know to answer that
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question, and I would notnecessarily put the parasite
whatever parasite situation isgoing on, and assume that that
is the cause of the leg swelling, because we don't know, and you
have to, you have to know thatyou don't know.
So now you're absolutely rightthat sleeping has a is directly
related to this, and not that itcaused this whole situation,
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because, remember, there's neverany one thing that causes
anything.
It's multiple variables.
But in this case the sleep is,and we're talking about when you
go to sleep and the number ofhours, but more importantly,
when, because getting the samenumber of hours of sleep that
are considered adequate at onepart of the 24-hour cycle versus
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another part is the differencebetween having a healthy immune
system and a poor immune system.
It's that foundational, so weshould go to bed by 8.
If you're having troublesleeping, again, there's many
ways to look at that.
We'd have to look at youradrenal glands.
Are you having adrenalexhaustion that is manifesting
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by your?
Instead of having an earlymorning cortisol, you have a
flat cortisol in the morning,which means you don't have a lot
of energy and you're not thatmotivated in the morning.
But as the day proceeds youhave more and more and you have
more energy.
Pretty soon it's 8 pm andyou're peaking.
Your body is exhausted.
Soon it's 8 pm and you'repeaking.
Your body may is exhaustedbecause you haven't, because
it's time for bed according toyour body, but not inside.
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So we can do a few tests to seeif you actually do have that
kind of adrenal fatigue.
But just by clinically whatyou're explaining you know, I
would suggest going on anadrenal rest protocol that
involves taking appropriatesmall doses of hydrocortisone,
which is what the is the hormonethat the adrenal glands produce
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.
Just taking the amount thatthey normally produce, 20
milligrams they all healthyadrenal gland will produce
anywhere from 20 to 25milligrams a day of cortisol,
also called hydrocortisone.
But all the other steroids,like prednisone and solumedrol,
whatever, none of them, arenaturally occurring.
So in the adrenal rest protocolwhat you're taking is you're
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taking small amounts, like fivemilligrams, four times a day, so
that your adrenal glands canrest.
They don't have to make it, andthat's why we call it the
adrenal rest protocol.
And then you could also addother herbs, like ashwagandha,
for sure, but you can also addginseng, and there's many others
.
There are a whole list of them.
Again, you'll find it on thewebsite by joining the groups.
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But these herbs they're calledadaptogens just because they
they they support themaintenance and vitality and
renewal of the cells in theadrenal glands, so they're
really good, they're reallyhelpful.
So during this or adrenal restprotocol, you would do a minimum
six weeks, maybe eight weeks,right, and then stop for a while
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and see what, see what happens.
Because we're talking aboutconditions that are not usually
identified by the medical worldand therefore there's been no
research into the area and ifthere has been, it's very
minimal, usually done inacademic centers that are able
to fund it themselves, withoutpharmaceutical companies.
But the other thing is sleephygiene movement.
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If you don't move around a lotduring the day, you're going to
have a different kind of fatiguethan the person who does, at
the end of the day, move aroundall day.
So at the end of the day, forthe person who's active and
doing things, it's kind of likemuscles are exhausted and all
that and the person easily fallsasleep.
The kind of weakness andfatigue and lethargy that you
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get from not moving around allday is due to basically, your
body dealing with a metabolismthat is not being optimized,
which is what movement does.
So that helps with sleep.
Doing a mind enema before sleephelps.
Before sleep helps.
A mind enema is just simplysitting down at least 30 minutes
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before you're going to sleepand you've already eliminated
all the.
You turned off all theelectronic equipment in the
house, turned off the Wi-Fi andold school.
Get a pad of paper and writedown everything you did today
that needed to happen, thatyou're remembering, and then
everything that you didn't getdone, that you needed to get
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done, and then reestablish themin your next day's priorities.
So what I need to do first, Igot to make sure I do this, this
, this, this.
Look at your medium-term goalsand then your long-term goals
and just write them down.
And what you've done by whathappens when you do this is
you're basically emptying andresolving or coming up with a
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conclusion for resolution.
So, for example, you know youdidn't get this phone call made,
you know you didn't call thatperson, you weren't able to show
up on time for this and allthose things, so now you've got
to get them number one on yourlist to do so.
This helps you stay aware ofwhat's happening and not
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happening in your life and alsoit gives you resolution.
But regarding sleep, now, whenyou go to bed and you don't feel
like you're sleepy, you don'thave to think about these things
because you've already thoughtabout them.
These things, because you'vealready thought about them.
There's music.
You can get music turned to the432 hertz a turned to 432 hertz
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there rather than the 440 nwo.
There's other kinds of musicand then you can also use
meditation, which you should bedoing anyway such as ohm or
whatever it is listening to yourbreath, and do that when you
get into bed.
You've done all the other.
You've turned off electronics,you've taken your melatonin
right, because everyone's goingto be taking melatonin and
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that's it all right.
So melatonin does not only helpestablish the sleep cycle it'll
put you to sleep but it also isone of the most potent, if not
the most potent, scavengers ofthe hydroxyl radical, which is
metabolic byproduct involved inalmost everything, so that it
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accumulates inside of cells anddoes all the damage that we know
happens to cells.
So each melatonin molecule cangrab four of those guys.
The other thing that melatonindoes is it enhances and balances
the immune system tremendously,and we see this when we look at
the incidence of CFCs in blindpeople versus people who are
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called sighted or can see.
So the blind person.
If you understand that,melatonin is derived from
tryptophan, which is an aminoacid that, through enzymatic
steps, winds up at serotonin,which is released.
The serotonin is aneurotransmitter.
It's also considered a hormone,the feel-good hormone, all that
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.
You need to have adequatelevels of that in order to
generally have a good attitudeand feel, feel good.
And so the the drug companiesare looking to promote the drugs
that enhance the amount ofserotonin, and they do it by
blocking its normalphysiological degradation and
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recycling, which, of course,when you're blocking a vital
process of metabolism, it'sgoing to find another way to get
established, excuse me, soanyway.
So the melatonin will stimulateT cells, natural killer cells,
dendritic cells, all of that.
It's a powerful immune enhancer.
So we know about the tryptophan.
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Going to the serotonin, there'sanother enzymatic step that
only gets activated below acertain luminosity.
So when the ambient lightdecreases below a certain
luminosity, that stimulates theenzyme that takes the serotonin
and turns it into melatonin.
So melatonin is actually aneurotransmitter, immune
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modulator.
Right, because blind people,blind women, I think one third
the number of the incidence ofCFCs.
Now that's significant becausewe're talking about only one
variable, really, because thewomen were matched on all other
variables like age, age, maritalstatus, number of children to
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work, so they matched everythingelse.
But the one thing that wassignificant is that the blind
people are always in the dark,so they're always making excess
melatonin.
So you, you want to be takingthat.
So we want to get up to 180milligrams a night if you're
doing parasites, because ourpineal glands unfortunately go
through Over time, all of theorgans in our body begin to lose
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their ability to function andit is 99% due to the accumulated
toxins just by living.
So what's happened, as we allknow, is in our Western society,
even if you're not in theWestern world.
The West has metastasized tothe rest of the world in terms
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of values and food.
Everybody's eating KFC,drinking at Starbucks,
mcdonald's, burger King, kfc.
So, in summary, our immunesystems are in trouble and the
things that really keep themactive and healthy are taking
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care of the pineal gland.
Our pineal gland is gettingcalcified because of fluoride
and other situations, damagingour pineal gland, which produces
three very important chemicalsepithalin, melatonin and
dimethyltryptamine.
They're all very important foryou know almost what we would
consider adjunctive kinds ofprocesses, but they're not.
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They're actually very essentialso that the the epithalin,
which is it's only four aminoacids, very small basically
controls what's going on.
With the melatonin, whichcontrols the immune system, as I
said, it's a powerfulantioxidant.
It helps you sleep, butepithelium in and of itself also
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increases telomere length,which decreases aging or extends
life.
It's pretty important stuff.
And the dimethyltryptamine thereare receptors for it in our
brain is a biochemical processby which humans have the
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experience of transcendental.
They have a transcendentalexperience.
So what are those?
Those are like, uh, you know,being in love, you know anything
that really moves you.
It kind of takes you out ofwhat's going on, into like wow
and awe.
That's that requires the dmtand it's also used there.
It's also being produced andinvolved in lots of situations
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that are basically allowing oneto transcend an experience.
What I mean by that is that,even though you're going through
an experience, it doesn'tdefine you and it doesn't
capture your mind and spirit, nomatter how negative it is.
It's not going.
No matter how negative it is,it's not going to do that.
You're going to see it in a, ina uh, in a totality, and you'll
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be removed from it.
You'll get it to that degree,um, you know.
So if someone were havingexperience with meditation or
how about going on a hike in theforest and being whoa blown
away?
And it's used in other waysthat we're not even sure of.
This is the molecule that isisolated when they're doing the
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ayahuasca ceremonies and it'sproduced in large amounts at
terminal moments in life whenyou're dying.
So it probably mediates a lotof the experiences that we're
having Now.
Remember, just because there'sa molecule involved in a process
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and required for a processdoesn't mean that it's causing
it.
It would not have been releasedand in the synergistic
arrangement with other moleculesin the body if it weren't for
something else.
So it's not the molecule that'scausing it.
It's the mechanism.
Now, this is from kathy and it'scalled alternative.
Unfortunately she's using theastrological word, but we'll say
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alternative cfc treatmenttherapies, previous patient of
dr lodi, via phone.
Anyway, you can email myinstructions to me.
Working with Doc that will putme on his protocol for parasites
, detox, etc.
I watched his podcast onparasites but couldn't get all
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the information out.
Could I get someone to enableme to email?
Okay?
So, kathy, that's a greatquestion.
If you go to my website,drlodycom drlodycom it's there
and it was basically a webinar.
It's available.
So if you join the group,you'll have free access to it.
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Otherwise, there's a fee Ithink it's $25 or something, but
that's available and you canwatch it repeatedly.
If you join the group, you'llhave access to the monthly
webinars we have every month.
You'll have access to themeetings we have the live Zoom
meetings with me, Access to theVanessa and Darren teaching
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showing the how in everythingthat we're talking about how to
do these movements and preparefoods, et cetera, and then Donna
.
So you'll be getting a lot ofaccess.
It'll be very important for you, but right?
So what I don't know and this iswhy I'd be grateful we're in a
group together is you're doingthis, you've got a doctor to
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work with you to do the parasiteprotocol, but you know that's
the wrong assumption, thatthat's the only thing going on,
and it's really important tocorrect all of our physiological
problems and the reason we havephysiological problems.
What I mean by that is thatunder situations where the body
is receiving all of itsbiological requirements and not
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receiving stuff that it doesn'tneed ie toxins and in the mind,
our relationship with the worldof people is healthy and
balanced, so we have nopsychological issues, then the
result is optimal functioning.
So if that's not happening, weknow that somehow one or many of
these different biological orpsychological systems is not
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adequate, so it's got to becorrected.
And if not, this won't, nothingwill work.
So it's not that you've gotsomething and you got to get rid
of it, so that you need torestore your balance and
whatever was happening won't bethere.
So I don't know that.
What's going on?
I don't.
I can't get that from thiswriting.
So, but yes, the answer to thequestion, that's where you can
get that protocol.
All right, excuse me a minute,one second please.
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All right, sorry, there's justno way to stop the construction
noise.
I apologize.
So struggling with sleeping.
Okay, so that's the thing withsleeping and the anti-parasites.
It's not the only situationthat's going on.
You could easily have adrenalproblems and other hormonal
imbalances that we all havebecause we're all subjected to,
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like it or not, hormonedisruptors Incredibly so.
Yeah, anyway, Joe, I see thatyou have a lot of really serious
concerns.
Please join the groups.
Get on to drlodycom and jointhese groups so we can work
directly.
Okay, Amy, just real quickly.
Fluoride should not be used.
I think most people know that.
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But you know, fluorideoriginally in the 20s was used
as an anti-to-kill insects incrops and stuff and because it
was causing problems with people, they kind of hit it and they
wound up putting it intoothpaste.
Why they're saying thatfluoride actually makes bones
stronger.
That's right.
You know the fluoride attractscalcium, which it does in the
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pineal glands, and it makes itmakes the bond stronger, but the
bones also become more brittleand they break more easily, so
that that function for whichwe're supposedly taking it is a
lie.
But it also gets into thepineal gland, as I said, in that
it destroys the pineal gland.
So you're absolutely right,it's a poison, all right.
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So now, so this Kathy, previouspatient of dr Lodi, via phone.
Anyway, you can emailinstructions to me working with
doctor, that will help.
Oh, that's the one we weretalking about.
So, kathy, let me look up ourconsult, all right, and I will
get back to you.
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Let me copy this, all right,and so make that in a note here.
Also, kathy, it'd be reallygood to join the group.
Very good Now, becky.
So this question is what's?
The question is let's seeBecky's asking what is
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recommended for essentialthrombocythemia, all right, well
, just for everyone, thromborefers to thrombocytes, or
basically cells that areinvolved in the blood clotting
system, and that's plateletsthat the bone marrow produces.
Right, bone marrow producesthree lines of cells all of our
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red blood cells, our white bloodcells, which is our immune
system, and thrombocytes, whichare platelets, right, and so if
you have an overproduction ofthem, the word emia means in
blood, so you're having excess.
If the suffix at the end of theword was cytosis,
thrombocytosis, it would be low,so essential.
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When the word essential is usedin a diagnosis, it means they
don't know the reason for it.
With hypertension, the vastmajority 80%, 90% is essential,
meaning they don't know thecause.
It's obvious, but they don'tknow it.
So essential thrombocytosithemiameans that the platelets are
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going up and we don't know whyis that dangerous?
Because the platelets are thefirst parts.
They're the way the clottingprocess begins.
If you have a cut, theplatelets show up to close it up
, to stop it.
Anyway, it prevents bleedingand hemorrhage and stuff like
that.
So what is causing that?
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So that means obviouslysomething is stimulating the
bone marrow to produce excess.
There's excess thrombocytes,resulting in excess platelets,
and there are genetic.
They're calling them geneticAgain, and remember, the word
genetic is actually being, it'soverused, it's kind of like the
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word autoimmune and you knowalmost any of the words, like
Alzheimer's and all these words.
The definition of what they arechanges because they're not
really entities.
Diagnoses are not reallyentities, they're physiological
responses, but anyway.
But there are certain pathwaysthat are associated with
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thrombocytosis, right, and theseare also very much associated
with different kinds of cfcs,right.
But the problem with theplatelets as they get high,
really, really, really high, youstart clotting or they, you
know, if they're in excess, theycan accumulate in very small
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arterioles and capillaries andplug them up and basically cause
areas of ischemia where itblocks the blood flow and
there's no oxygen in the tissue,so it can do that, so you can
have strokes, or what they calltia, tias, transient ischemic
ischemic attacks.
The only difference between atia and a stroke is that a
stroke is.
You know, you, you have astroke and, let's say, the right
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side of your body is paralyzed.
It remains paralyzed two weekslater.
In a tia transient ischemicischemic attack you, it happens
for a short time and that'sbecause the clot gets resolved
and doesn't wind up in blockingthe blood flow.
That actually kills the tissues, so it can cause TIAs.
So the question is and I guessif they've diagnosed you with
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that, that means they must havedone a bone marrow biopsy to say
that's what you have right, andso you know the original
treatment was well, let'sdecrease the effectiveness of
platelets, so platelets need todo their job of causing a clot,
they need to start to accumulate.
So that's what aspirin does youknow, taking the 81 milligrams
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or low-dose aspirin daily forpeople to prevent heart attacks
and strokes, et cetera?
What the aspirin is doing isblocking the platelets from
adhering to each other andforming a clot right.
In more extensive situations,such as thrombocytosis that
you're probably referring to,the first line is usually
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something called hydroxyurea,and that will keep them.
You know, you, you got to stayon that, but that will keep them
from accumulating.
But again, and there are otherones, there's interferon alpha,
which is a secondary, andthere's anelgoride, and there's
other drugs they have that areblocking the effects of having
too many platelets.
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But really, what we've got tofind out is what's happening.
Why is that happening?
Let's stop that from happening,because if we don't, we've got
to find out is what's happening.
Why is that happening?
Let's stop that from happening,because if we don't, we're
gonna have to be taking thisdrug, and immediately, if it
works, you know.
So, anyway, it's also part of acondition called myoplastic
disorders and they are basicallywhat we might call pre-leukemic
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kind of conditions.
So I don't know what's going on,because unless we understand
the mechanism by which theseexcess platelets are being
produced, we can't understandthe definitive way of restoring
balance.
Where that's not happening, isthere something that's
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colonizing in the bone marrow?
That's not happening, you know,is there a some something
that's colonizing in the bonemarrow that's affecting
specifically that?
Now?
Um, so, as I said, thetreatments are aspirin or any
other thing that will decreaseplatelet adhesion.
Uh, but definitively, they usehydroxyurea.
So those are, those are thetreatments to stop the
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manifestation, but they're notdealing with the cause.
What you need to do is assume,because what I've found with
leukemias and lymphomas is thatsomething has gotten into the
bone marrow that has disruptedits ability to do its job and
produce the appropriate amountof whatever it is cells, white
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cells or platelets.
So, like with all otherconditions, we need to first get
rid of every possible source oftoxicity, beginning with the
oral cavity, which is biologicaldentistry, and then doing the
cleansing and all the thingsthat we do talk about.
Please join the group so thatwe can get into all this in more
detail and more specifically.
And you know, is it a virus?
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And then the question becomesdo viruses exist?
And the answer is most likelynot in the way that we think
they exist at all, but whateverthat is has gotten into the bone
marrow Anyway.
So we don't know what'shappened.
So we do know that we need toget rid of all the possible
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toxicities and restore balance,and that's even like, obviously
essential when you don't thinkyou know the cause, because if
you think you know the cause,then you're going to go after
that as if that in you know thecause, then you're going to go
after that and as if that, inisolation, was the cause.
And we must all remember thatthere's never one cause.
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There are multiple variablesthat go in resulting in a
particular but a physiologicaladaptation.
I know that you're cannot feelsatisfied with that answer, but
you know, know, that's it.
And there's, there's lots ofherbs that will do similar, have
similar actions to aspirin, butthat's just blocking the
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effects but not stopping thefundamental problem.
That's what we have to do,right?
No, and this is a question byMichael.
And the question is what ismethylene blue and is it safe or
recommended?
Well, we've actually addressedthis multiple times.
Methylene blue is a verycommonly used compound.
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We use it in the ER for variousthings and it's got multiple
amazing good effects.
So, yes, it is recommended.
You can get a toxicity from it.
Uh, so the uh?
There's a uh blue green algaethat gives you the same effect
like spirulina, but you caneasily find this online.
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That has all the benefits ofthe methylene blue, but there's
no potential side effects.
But, that being said, methyleneblue has been used for I don't
know, maybe more than 100 years,I'm not sure exactly how long,
but it's amazing, and whileyou're looking for the herbs
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that you might want to be usingor the blue-green algae, you
could start with that andmethylene blue, of course,
depending on the situation it's.
Also it accumulates at the siteof certain problems, like
tumors, and then you could shinea red light on them and
activate them.
So there's all sorts of useswith methylene blue.
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So, yes, it's very legitimate.
Excuse me, I saw one questionover here.
I try not to answer these, butthese are the right now and this
is chris saying.
Please read this.
I did a ton of research basedon mostly on your information.
In canada.
This is the cycle I came upwith ivermectin, benedizol,
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albendizol, prosecuantil andnitazoxam.
These are approved for humanconsumption here.
Fenbenazole is not, nor isniclosamide.
First of all, you can getniclosamide from niclosamcom and
the Indian pharmacies, and ifthe fembenazole is not available
, I'm sure they have mebendazole.
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So in the prosaic quanta youmight not necessarily need.
So if you can get, you've gotthe ivermectin and the bendisol.
You don't need to takealbendazole and the bendisol.
Okay, you've got to try to getthe niclosamide in, because?
But I don't know exactly whatyou're doing this for.
Are you doing it for an actualparasite cleanse or are you
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doing it for its effect?
It's the helpful effects onCFCs.
It's the helpful effects onCFCs and, as you know, you can
even get things that are notlegally acceptable in certain
countries.
You can get them.
Every country's got a method ofgetting them, but the odd thing
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is it's not available in certaincountries than other countries
today.
There's nothing that makessense out of that.
There's no way to make senseout of that.
Each country has their uniquerules.
Thailand has very unique rulesthat apply only to it.
That don't make sense, butthat's true with every country,
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and it usually comes down whathappened here.
But that's true with everycountry, and it usually comes
down to money If something forsome reason is not taxable or
whatever, or the FDA has notapproved something because it's
working with another companythat has produced a synthetic
version of the mechanisms thatan herb or something would
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produce.
Anyway, it's just anyway.
But the point is this you canget any of these things, but I
don't know exactly what you'redoing it for.
But I'm a bendazole orfenbendazole, and I would say
niclosamide over prosiquantel,and then nitrozoxanide, of
course, is great because it'sgetting protozoas and a few of
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the worms on the side of that.
Okay, so now where are we?
And so, by the way, just goingback to Becky for a second, with
essential thermocythemia, thereare other drugs used in
oncology that are even stronger,that work.
There are other drugs used inoncology that are even stronger
that work.
So you can, and sometimes theyjust take out your blood and
throw it away, or spin out yourplatelets and take them out.
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But again, all of that is justdealing with the symptoms, which
sometimes you need to deal withinitially, but you've got to
get to the underlying cause.
So that's what I was trying toemphasize.
And this is Offman.
I am a healthy 63 year old manfollowing healthy lifestyle and
just started your protocol.
Three weeks for three weeks.
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The one week break will repeatthe cycle.
Then we'll repeat the cycle.
My question is shall repeat theprotocol again and for how long
?
It really depends?
So your topic is under CFCprevention.
Please don't use that word.
You know Capricorn or Scorpioor any of them.
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You know Gemini, cancer, leo,don't use any of those.
The word is chronicallyfermenting cells.
So since your topic is on theprevention of that and you're
focusing here obviously on theparasite protocol.
I would do that at least.
It's hard to say at least threeto six times, because, remember
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, we're getting the cycles thatkill the eggs and then a
maintenance part.
But there's many other thingsyou could be doing too.
You say you're living a healthylifestyle.
That's fantastic.
I would like to discuss thatwith you and see if there's any
way we can make sure that that'sbeing.
You're getting the most out ofit.
You're really living a trulyhealthy lifestyle, right, janice
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?
This is again, in prevention,what to do if you can't find a
doctor who is willing to workwith you in this regiment.
We have asked several doctorsabout ivermectin, femenzol, et
cetera.
Well, first of all, it'sextremely difficult to find a
doctor just know that that wouldgo along with this, even with
doctors that call themselvesalternative or integrated
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physicians, because there's nospecific training in what we're
talking about.
Because there's no specifictraining in what we're talking
about, training in parasitologyor understanding parasites and
treating them, gives you a verygood, strong understanding of
what the different parasites areand their life cycles, etc.
The drugs that are used totreat them are the ones we're
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talking about.
However, they're in such lowdoses, for example, with liver
flukes, which are the certainliver flukes that are directly
the cause of biliary CFCs,cholangiocarcinoma, and the
treatment is absurd.
It's like prosaicontal 600milligram once a day for like
seven days or something.
And remember, if there areparasites and we undertreat them
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, they just get disturbed andthey migrate to other organs,
and that's not what we want.
So let me turn this off aminute.
Ah, yeah, okay, so to fight adoctor.
Well, the resources that I'vementioned before are acam,
american college of well, I'mdrawing a blank on that, that's
weird.
Anyway, acam a-c-a-m and theywere one of the first
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institutions that basically wereprofessional organizations who
were basically was kind of likethe AMA version of those who
didn't want to follow the AMA.
Well-known, they teach theirdoctor, they train them in
chelation and all sorts oftherapies.
So they have a website and thenit says looking for a physician
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.
You can give them the stateyou're in and they'll tell you
all the ones that have beentrained by them and then also a
list of the things that they'vebeen certified.
So if they have a number ofthem and they seem like it's
worth your time, give them acall and find out.
Do they understand the parasiteprogram?
Would they help you?
But what you need to know isthat soon I will have an
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association with a pharmacywhere I know that you can get
everything.
Soon I will have an associationwith a pharmacy where I know
that you can get everything, anduntil that time I wish you
could join our groups, becauseyou know all the members.
In addition to the weekly Zooms, we have and we add content,
you know, in terms of writing orresearch articles.
We have telegram groups whereeverybody is in constant
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discussion with themselves, witheach other, and, it's amazing,
all the resources that have comeup.
So almost anything you needwill be available there.
Now there's a resource pagewhere you can go to find them,
so there is a way to get them.
You don't necessarily need tohave a doctor work with you, and
you can even find one that'snot near you, but you can have a
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virtual relationship with them.
That's become legal in mostplaces now.
This is from paris.
Topic is parasites says.
First round of the protocol,day 19 of the first three weeks,
and my whole body was squirminglarge parasites in the
intestines, heart I'm not surewhat squimming means heartworm
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and all over the body, violetsquirming.
It's alarming.
Obviously I have a big problem.
No, no, this is not a commonoccurrence with people who are
taking these anti-parasitics.
So if you're squirming andreally uncomfortable, this is
such an indistinct, nonspecificsymptom or group of symptoms
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that we really need to have adoctor evaluate you and do some
testing.
I mean, humans don't usuallyhave heartworms, it's just you
know.
But something's going on.
I realize that, you know.
I'm wondering if you've been toCosta Rica or South Central and
South America and got exposedto places where the bot fly is
endemic but that can causesquirming and feeling like
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parasites are, you know,crawling around inside of you.
You know it's a horriblesituation.
So in order to answer this, wereally need to interact.
I would join the group Okay.
So now regarding limes.
Okay, tried doing a parasitecleanse for a decade.
After a decade of dealing withlimes, I was also recommended to
do liver flushes and I chose awell-known herbal parasite
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protocol, parathy 5.
Without knowing enough aboutanything, I began the protocol.
I quit halfway through Afteronly two weeks.
It was due to intense hexing.
I then took several weeks offand tried ivermectin for two
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weeks and again stopped due tofeeling almost septic and
becoming scared.
I think I understand.
I made my problem worse,wondering if I follow your
protocol now.
Is it too late for me to workthat out now?
They have burrowed deeper intoother organs, all right.
Are there other things to killthem?
Yes, you know, you know I don't.
You know it's really hard tosay if they have burrowed into
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other organs or not.
But you have the sensations,the experiences you're having
are legitimate.
I just don't know what'scausing them.
But don't assume that that'swhat it is, because you may have
feelings, but don't assumethat's what it is.
It may be what it is, but keepyour mind open to again all of a
sudden, with everybody andeverything.
It begins with cleansingcleansing, going a biological
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dentist and doing a juice,cleanse, calm, etc.
Essential to any person whowants to heal from anything.
That's got to be done inaddition to what we will learn
by delving into this further.
All right.
So I then took several weeksoff and tried Ivermectin for two
weeks and again stopped,feeling almost septic and scared
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of hurting myself.
Since these two-week-onlyprotocols I've gotten much
sicker now, passing variableparasites in my stool for over
six months.
All right.
So, karen, you've got to get ahold of Oasis and
Oasisofhealingcom andOasisofhealingcom and
Oasisofhealingcom.
You can also just it's easierto remember just go to
StopMakingCancercom one word andthat'll redirect you.
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And then you've got to make anappointment with.
They will have you fill outyour questionnaires and then you
can have an appointment withone of our doctors or me to help
us establish a protocol andmake sure that you're
appropriate.
So my liver is so congestedthat I get really sick taking
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supplements and medications, allright.
So I really need to speak withyou.
So I need to know what you meanby that, all these things.
So please join one of thegroups, the parasite group
sounds like.
Lisa, I know that this questionmay be or so, unapproved,
important, but your question'simportant.
Can't figure out why, all allof a sudden, after being
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plant-based for nearly threeyears, suddenly I'm so bloated,
constipated, anyway.
So, lisa, maybe unimportant.
So you've been doing aplant-based diet for over three
years, suddenly you're sobloated, constipated and cannot
get relief.
Diet is the same, no changes,tried peppermint, tea, lemon
water, more fiber.
I am moving bowels in themorning, but still am bloated.
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So, lisa, here's the thingbowels in the morning, but still
imploded, okay.
So so, lisa, here's the thing.
Obviously you've got an extremedysbiosis in your gut, which
you know.
We all have two differentdegrees and it sounds like a
hard time moving your bowels.
So there are herbs.
There's one herbal product thatit used to be called super
cleanse.
We could find it and theystopped making it.
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Now they have it's called thesuper.
I don't know whatever it is.
It just doesn't work as good.
There's another thing calledColon Max.
These are all herbal productsand there are many, many online,
and taking those are extremelyhelpful.
The other thing that's extremelyhelpful is start eating just
uncooked plant foods, salads andstuff like that.
Get chia seeds.
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Take the six tablespoons ofchia seeds in the morning, soak
them for at least two or threehours in a fresh nut milk, or
just leave them soaking in thefresh nut milk overnight in the
refrigerator and then let themwarm up naturally to room
temperature, and then you canadd cinnamon, you can add
coconut, you can add berries,strawberries, whatever you want
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to make it taste good and eatingthose and make sure you're
getting a lot of water too.
That will give you all thevolume of plus you're eating
salads of uh to keep your stoolsmoving.
You'll have lots of fiber andthen, once you get things moving
, if you are constipated, onceyou get some of the larger,
harder pieces of stool out, thenyou can go get a whole body not
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a whole body, an open system.
Colonic, really, reallyimportant, at least twice a week
for eight times at least, andthen once a week and then
eventually every other week.
All right, so many people, asyou can all see from reading
these questions, think thativermectin and fenbendazole and
all these antiparasitic drugsare going to cure something.
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That's the idea.
We're still into the curementality when understanding
there's no such thing as a cure,since there's no such thing as
disease.
The goal is to restore healthyphysiology and that really has
to be understood on a very deeplevel.
You're not going to get rid ofanything because everything is
manifesting in the way that itis out of necessity.
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And if you don't change thenecessity but what's necessary,
they can't's just the way it is.
Where is that?
All right, I can't find itAnyway.
So, elizabeth, and colonics, andyou can do enemas, you just got
to get it cleaned out.
Meanwhile you should start agreen juice cleanse, and you
know that recipe and drink three, four quarts a day and don't
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eat.
Get a couple colonics the firstweek and maybe one colonic a
week after that and or do dailyenemas.
You've got to restore thehealth of your body and take
care of your dentistry and youstill need to find the
ivermectin and benzimidazole,such as femmedazole and
mebendazole and niclosamide.
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So this is Petra and the topicis detox cleanse and it says hi,
dr Lilley, I'm interested inworking on supporting my
lymphatic system.
That said, I have invested inthe Rolls Royce of rebounders.
Do you think this would be doneclose to hands-on massage and
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be just as beneficial?
Well, okay, the rebounder isexcellent, and so is movement
exercise.
You know, those sorts of thingsare excellent for getting
lymphatics moving.
Another way to get lymphaticsmoving is with really deep
diaphragmatic breathing or deepdiaphragmatic laughing.
Deep laughter also helps emptythe cisterna chyli, which is the
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large lymphatic vessel that isaccumulating from all the lower
extremities your legs, pelvis,abdomen, left arm, left shoulder
, left neck and left side of thebrain.
The other thing for lymphaticsystem.
What I would suggest is if youcan find in your area a
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certified lymphatic therapist.
They're not easy to find.
I'm not sure where you live,but a certified lymphatic
therapist is very, verydifferent.
A lot of times clinics will geta nurse trained, but a nurse
just doesn't study.
Neither do doctors study thelymphatic system the way
lymphatic therapists do, andthey know which lymph nodes are,
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which lymph vessels or pathwaysare required for elimination in
that particular organ.
So they can do both lymphaticmassage, which is usually just
getting the dermal layer of theouter layer of lymphatic vessels
, but the deeper one can bemodified with what's called.
It's basically two glass wandswith either argon, krypton or
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any of the noble gases.
These are gases that don'treact with anything, and so the
wand just goes just over theskin and it can move things
deeply, including blood, and soit'll bring the congestion out
of a big tumor and all that.
It's electro-lymphatic therapy.
It's called E-L-T, and so you'dwanna find a certified
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lymphatic therapist, which meansthey're certified in manual,
but they don't usually learn theelectrodermal, so you want to
make sure this person haslearned that and is good at it.
That would be very important aswell.
Now, all right.
So here's Danny.
It's regarding parasites.
It looks like many people arereally focused on these drugs as
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being a way to eliminate,resolve situations, focused on
these drugs as being the way toeliminate, resolve situations.
They're absolutely important,it's a process, but they're not
the cure.
No, so here this question isfrom Danny saying could you
please tell me what dosage isrequired for ivermectin,
methamphetazole, mebamazole forprostate CFCs?
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You have got to join theprostate.
You have got to join the CFCgroup.
Very, very important.
So those are okay.
But again, you don't need to betaking mebendazole and
mebendazole.
You need to be taking maybeniclosamide in addition.
But anyway, drlodycom, join thegroup Now.
If you have membership in theCFC group, you automatically
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have membership in the parasitegroup and the health and healing
group, which means you haveaccess to all of their weekly
Zoom consultations with me andall the other people I've
mentioned.
So join that and we can have anongoing consultation for years.
The PSA is down and it's notspreading.
What would be the best dosage?
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All right.
Anyway, danny, I hope you makean appointment to get on the
parasite cleanse, at least inthe parasite group or the CFC
group.
Then when you're on, we'rehaving a Zoom meeting.
You just ask a questiondirectly and we'll go back and
forth and we'll answer it thesame way we would do it in a
consultation.
So very important.
Right Now that looks like allof the questions for the week,
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but they were all parasites andothers.
I'm not seeing CFC questions.
So I think somehow we're notgetting that.
I'm not sure how that's working.
All right, let me just see Iwanted to take a little extra
time since it took so long toget on.
It looks like a lot of you havebeen answering, so I've got
long questions for you folks andI really want to answer them,
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but it's impossible because Ican't clarify what you mean.
So, tanya Casey here, do any ofyour doctors take insurance?
Here's the thing.
It doesn't matter if we takethem.
You know, the doctor acceptsthe insurance.
The insurance won't pay forcertain things Vitamin C IV, it
won't pay for ozone, they won'tpay for it.
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So even if we took it, itwouldn't pay for it.
So we usually opt out of itbecause then we're required to
use their protocols and we don'twant to do that because they're
not healthy.
So it's a very difficultsituation, I know.
But the insurance would coverblood tests, scans, any other
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diagnostic procedures, anythingwe had to outsource, it would
cover.
And if we were to use ipt,which was low dose insulin, low
dose chemo with insulin, theywould cover it because the
chemotherapy are drugs.
Now, with the re-answer to thelife insurance, call our main
number and ask for Clotilde.
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She is the administrator.
Ask for Clotilde.
C-l-o-t-h-i-l-d-e.
It looks like Clothilde, butit's Clothilde.
It's a French name, clothilde.
Call her and ask her thatShe'll help you.
I'm pretty sure we do All right.
So anyway, erected withparasites, it's all parasites.
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So, patrick Hines, you'vereached out to us by email.
Okay, so I don't get thoseemails.
I don't get those emails.
I don't know what you mean athellodoctorlodycom.
If that's what it was, I'mgoing to copy this right now and
send it off to our people.
Make sure I don't know whathappened.
Oh wait, where is it?
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Where is it?
Where were you?
Where were you?
Where were you?
Oh, there you are.
Stop letting me.
Anyway, what is this, patrickHines?
Let me just Patrick, I don'tknow.
Hello at drlodycom, and you'renot going to be able to get in
touch with me directly.
So you should join the groupsand we can discuss your
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situation twice a week.
Join the groups, patrick.
I don't know what you're tryingto ask, but you've reached out
to me.
That's fantastic and I'd liketo hear from you.
Join the groups.
There's no other way because Ican't do these one-on-one
consultations.
But as long as you're willingand comfortable with talking
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about your situation in largergroups and even in the larger
group when we're doing the Zoom,the person who wants to keep
things confidential can send thelab work only to me and stuff
like that.
But I'll still be discussingthe situation in general so that
everyone can learn from it.
And it's fantastic.
And, michael, we have to answeryour question next week.
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Let me see that again.
I thought if I got that no, Ididn't get it.
All right, all right, you guys,that's it.
Thank you so much and I'm sosorry for the ridiculous thing
today.
And anyway, I'm not sure whereall those questions are going.
So, the CFC group, cfc groupand CFC questions I'm not sure
where all those are going.
Scabies yes, tina, the scabies.
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I can't get into it right now,but ivermectin topically is
amazing orally.
Anyway, so many questions andjoining the groups is good, but
I'm glad at least we get theseSunday Night Lives.
Okay, aloha, sawadikap, andthank you so much for hanging in
there, and it was theconstruction that we got on.
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We made it.
We did have a Sunday night liveand I thank you and I'll see
you all next week.
Ok, if you're a group member,I'll see you tomorrow and then
I'll see you again on Wednesday.
So that's the thing, and wehave interactions.
So anyway, sawadikap namasteand aloha to everyone, yes,
interaction.
So anyway, sweaty cup namasteand aloha to everyone, yes.