September 9, 2025 • 64 mins
The forgotten power of iodine takes center stage in this enlightening exploration of thyroid health, immune function, and holistic healing approaches. Dr. Thomas Lodi reveals why this critical mineral deserves far more attention than it receives in conventional medicine, explaining how iodine deficiency undermines not just thyroid performance but our entire immune response.
Most people living in iodine-deficient regions unknowingly suffer as their thyroid glands substitute bromide, fluoride, and chloride for missing iodine molecules, creating structurally similar but functionally impaired thyroid hormones. This substitution goes undetected in standard blood tests yet wreaks havoc throughout the body. The solution? A year-long restoration protocol using 25mg of iodine daily, paired with natural thyroid support to prevent temporary hypothyroidism during the transition.
Beyond iodine, Dr. Lodi dives deep into his comprehensive approach to what he terms "chronically fermenting cells" (CFCs) – a more empowering and accurate description than cancer. By understanding these cells as fermenting rather than mysterious invaders, patients gain a clear path forward: create an internal environment where these cells cannot thrive. This reframing transforms the healing journey from one of fear to one of purpose and control.
The connection between parasites and chronic illness emerges as another crucial piece of the healing puzzle. Dr. Lodi shares specific anti-parasitic protocols combining medications like ivermectin, fenbendazole, and niclosamide with proper liver support supplements. These treatments extend beyond parasite elimination to potentially impact chronic conditions through multiple mechanisms, highlighting the interconnected nature of body systems.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wanted to comment on a little bit on iodine.
Let me just comment on thatreally quickly because I'll make
a short video If I can.
How do you make a short videoon something that's so
complicated?
It's very difficult.
But anyway, iodine is like theforgotten mineral and it's not a
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mineral in the sense thatsodium and magnesium are
minerals, because by definitionthey're called transition metals
and they carry a plus charge.
Of course they can't remain inthat position at all, so they
immediately have a negativecharge to hang out with.
So sodium gets chloride, whichis negative, and magnesium can
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get chloride or it can get.
They don't need two chlorides.
It can get oxide or bromide orfluoride, anything.
They can all act kind of thesame.
But iodide is at the bottom ofthe.
It's the largest of thehalogens and the halogens are
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bromide, fluoride and chloride.
Chloride, fluoride and bromideand then iodide.
They all have the same activity.
They're just larger.
Each one is larger than theother.
That's one of the problems withthyroid.
Is that the thyroid gland whenit's producing thyroid if there
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are no iodides around, whichhappens quite often since we
live in an iodide deficient soiland we don't need seaweed.
So unless you're Japanese andyou need a traditional diet with
a lot of seaweed, you won't begetting the iodide.
But you don't get the iodide asyou cannot make take three at
t4 because they rely on iodideand so what they'll use is
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something that's just asavailable or just as that fits
chemically for that reaction,and that would be the bromine
fluoride or chloride.
So you'll have your T3, maybeone, if you're lucky, one iodide
and maybe two fluorides orbromine fluoride, and the T4
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might have two chlorides and afluoride and a bromide in the
fluoride, and the T4 might havetwo chlorides in the fluoride
and a bromide or whatever.
So they still measure as T4 andT3, but they don't have the
activity, because the whole ideaof the thyroid hormone is to
deliver iodine to the cells,which has multiple effects, and
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one of them is control over theimmune system.
So if you don't have a healthythyroid, you won't have a
healthy immune system.
It's impossible.
But I don't know if this hasbeen talked about, but I wrote
about it years ago, so I'm goingto rewrite this paper on it.
So you should understand it,because it's the most really
forgotten.
And in fact there was a paperwritten called Iodophobia
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Medical Iodophobia, because forsome reason doctors are afraid
to use it and that has to dowith thyroid function and all
that.
So we'll go into that in thepaper.
But just to let you know thatiodine is very important.
It must be restored to healthylevels and that takes at least a
year of taking 25 milligrams aday.
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But then you're getting moreiodine in your system than would
be necessary for an activemaintenance.
An active maintenance would be12.5 milligrams but you're not
at maintenance yet because youhaven't reestablished or
established for the first timehealthy levels of iodine.
So for that reason you'll betaking 25 milligrams a day, just
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so that it doesn't take for thenext 10 years and that can and
will suppress thyroid hormoneoutput.
So, being aware of that andbeing aware that you've got two
simultaneous goals Number one isto restore healthy thyroid
function, which requires thatyou fill up the deficit of
iodine, because that's part ofthe final molecule in T3 and T4.
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And secondly, it is to maintaina healthy thyroid level
functioning while you are busyrestoring iodine supplies to the
body.
And you can only do that bytaking something exogenous
outside a thyroid.
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And I always use natural thyroidhormones Natural because they
have T3 and T4 in them and thatthey're derived from animals.
So those of us who arephilosophically or morally or
ethically opposed to killinganimals will probably have a
hard time taking these.
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They're called glandularsbecause they come from the
glands of either sheep or cows Ithink that's it sheep, or cows
and pigs.
I'm sorry they might come fromother mammals, which actually
illustrates one important fact,and that is the functioning of
the human body.
Its structure and functioning,its anatomy and physiology is
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very similar to all mammals,producing the same kinds of
hormones.
The hormones are the way thebody talks to itself, same with
peptides and all the otherproducts, which is why, for
example, when insulin was firstdiscovered, they were using
insulin from a pig.
Discovered they were usinginsulin from a pig, and so it
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was.
In order to extract it, youhave to remove the thyroid
glands of a pig or whateveranimal.
So that's the ethical dilemma.
So if that is a real problemfor you, the choice is getting
the synthetic versions of boththe T4, t3, and then putting
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them in the proper ratio.
And the T4 is easily obtainedand it's the only thing that
most doctors ever prescriptionthey have a right for when it
comes to thyroid levothyroxine.
Now, when it comes to thyroid, Idon't know.
Let me just review this for you.
When it comes to thyroid, theactive aspect is the T3.
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The T4 is inactive, in otherwords, it's a precursor,
pre-hormone, and it circulatesand when a cell needs it, it'll
grab it.
Take off the iodine.
One of the cells goes from T4to T3.
Now it fits, it can be Give you.
Anyway, that's how.
Now it fits, it can be give you.
So anyway, that's how thatworks and that's why you need to
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take iodine.
In spite of the fact that youwill, it will probably lower
your thyroid output and make youmore hypothyroid than you
already were.
And the way you combat this isby doing your basal body
temperatures in the morning.
That's certainly appropriatetimes for you to increase or not
increase, or just whetheryou're taking enough thyroid
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hormone or not.
The thyroid hormone that weusually look at are the porcine
ones from the US, which areWestroyd and Sitalo.
Well, no, anyway, from NewZealand.
It's thyroid bands, butbasically these are glandulars,
as we said.
All right, so come on, whereare we?
(07:12):
Where are we?
Come on, there, we are.
Okay, very good, all right, uh,so now.
So someone has mentioned theytake a nascent thyroid.
That usually refers to only theiodine.
So remember the Lugol's in 1820, I think it was Armour.
That's right, sandy, thank you.
So it's Armour.
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Thyroid, westeroid, thyrovanseare the main ones.
I'm sure there's other.
Glandulars they provide you theT3 and the T4.
Glandulars they provide you theT3 and the T4.
Now Lugol, who was a chemist in1820s, and the problem was in
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order to make the solution, youhave to have double the amount
of iodide than iodine, becauseiodide is water soluble and
iodine is not.
So what happens is that, if youwere to, because you really
need more iodine than iodine,because iodine, which is a
molecular iodine, which is twoof them together, actually, what
that does is destroy CFCs, itdestroys bacteria.
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It also is a co-factor involvedin healthy estrogen metabolism,
which is very important.
So, yeah, that's it.
So that's why you'd use Lugol's, so you can get both.
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Now you're not going to getthem in the proper solution
because in order to sustain thesolution, you have to have a
more higher diet because it'swater-soluble, right?
So that means that Lugol, uhwill be giving you more iodide
to the thyroid, causing it todecrease itself.
But all right, if we couldsomehow find a way to reverse it
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so that there was more iodinethan iodide, it'd be great.
So it's not chemically possiblein that form.
So let's get on with the show,all right.
So, as we mentioned every weekwhich is a quick orientation if
you're new, first time watchingthis is that we don't use the
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word the astrological sign forpeople who have tumors.
We refer to that situation asexactly what it is, which is,
chronically fermenting cells.
All right.
So if you have chronicallyfermenting cells in the breast,
pancreas, colon, liver, brain,the chronically fermenting cells
and we use use that wordbecause that word is helpful,
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makes us feel good, gives us apurpose, a reason, a way out of
this dilemma, and because youknow what it is, you know how to
deal with it.
So it does all sorts ofwonderful things like that.
So, anyway, and if you currentlyhave CFCs, then our Oasis of
Healing in Arizona.
We're in our 20th year now.
(10:05):
It's really wonderful.
It's not because I'm involvedwith it and you know I founded
it, but because it looks at allaspects of human nature that
need to be dealt with whenyou're ill with anything, and
that's the body, mind, spirit,continuum.
Right, you can't ignore any,but excellent, so you can call
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them All right.
So now and then all know we havethree groups called the.
What is it called?
The Dr Lodi community, and inthe Dr Lodi community are three
groups.
One is the health and healinggroup.
It was formerly called InnerCircle but we've changed it.
The Inner Circle sounded goodat first but it sounded sort of
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elitist and it really is thecommunity.
So if you're in any group theHealth and Healing Group,
parasite Group or CFC groups thecommunity that forms because
you have access, there's atelegram chat group that's
private to everybody's membersand what's shared on there is
amazing and most people that areon there have been dealing with
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whatever situation it isparasites or CFCs or whatever
for quite a long time andthey've got lots of experience
and they share that experience.
So it's amazing what goes onthere and it means that you have
more than just one person toconsult.
You have a lot of people toconsult and trust.
So it's fantastic in thatregard.
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So there's those three groupsand you can just go to our
website, drlodycom.
That's drlodycom, get on thewebsite and then you can join.
So if you're on Twitter, ofcourse what you're looking at
now is drthomaslodymd.
If you're on the new TikTok,you're also looking at
drthomaslodymd.
I don't know where we're on.
I don't think we're able tostream on TikTok and for all the
(11:56):
rest Instagram, facebook,youtube, linkedin it's all at
drthomas Lodi.
There's no MD at the end, it'sonly for the X and Tickzot Dr
Lodi MD, thomas Lodi MD.
All right, and you can also goto the website and stream, which
is drlodicom slash live.
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So let's check out thequestions here.
For those of you who have beenwatching the Human Diet webinar
series, we had to postpone lastFriday's, which would have been
the third part, the thirdprogram, which was what does the
research say, until this comingFriday.
My Friday is your Thursday,sorry, your Thursday afternoon.
(12:40):
What we're saying is what doesthe research say, what your
doctor says, you know what yourfriends say, you know what the
prevailing opinions are, but youdon't know what the research
says.
Because by knowing what theresearch says, you've studied it
and now you can answer ityourself.
And you need to know, becauseit's kind of important, and one
of the things that we're goingto do with the Dr Lodi community
(13:01):
is we're going to improve theyou know once you join the
experience, because theexperience has been fragmented.
We didn't really have acoordinator for that.
So we're going to have someonewho specifically coordinates all
the different groups and itallows everyone to have a
relationship with that persontoo, answer questions and all
that.
(13:21):
We're going to have videossummarizing what's available,
etc.
Because a lot of people weren'ttaking advantage of the fact
that, if they were unable to seeit live, you can watch a replay
.
A big part of what's availableis the weekly Zoom meetings.
We have weekly Zoom meetingstwo days a week.
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Soon it'll be three days a week, and that's where we can have
direct interaction.
You can ask direct questionsand it's really worthwhile.
And then, of course, we alreadyhave, as you know, a movement
specialist.
This is Darren.
He's a kinesiologist.
And then we have Vanessa, anutritionist and yoga coach, and
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then a have Vanessa, anutritionist and yoga coach, and
then he makes health educator.
And then we have Donna, who sayI've been eating uncooked vegan
food for 35 years now, so shegives the guidance on how to
make that transition and how tobe happy about it, how to be
happy about it.
It's gotta taste good, period,anyway.
So that's it, and we'reimproving that.
So I hope to see you all there,because that's how we can
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interact.
See the format on Sunday night,I can't interact.
I wind up doing it anyway.
There's no fear of I remittedit at all, unless you have a
specific hours here, so do itAll right.
So here we are.
Yes, all right.
So here we go.
Let's go to our question.
All right, so here we go, let'sget our questions.
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First question from CharlieRegarding breast CFCs.
Greetings, doc.
Is it better to do a detoxbefore going on a robust three
to seven day fast?
Is it okay to sleep with onionbeneath the feet at night during
a natural detox protocol orwhile fasting?
Can ivermectin be taken duringa protocol, a detox protocol,
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and what is your recommendeddose for taking fenbendazole and
ivermectin?
All right, so prettyinteresting questions.
So, really, the first questionis is it better to do a detox
before going on a robust threeto seven day water?
I'm imagining you mean waterfast.
Yes, I mean if you.
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Yes, yes, if you could do that,that would be good.
But if you can't do it that waybecause, whatever reasons, it's
okay, but you know that wouldbe ideal.
Okay, but you know that wouldbe ideal.
And of course, if you're doinga water fast true, fast then you
don't really take anysupplements or medicines unless
they're a medicine that you haveto take, in the words, if you
you can't just abruptly stopthem, so that's kind of medicine
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, you'd have to still take it.
But it's very different thandoing a juice cleanse where you
can still take the you know,ivermectin and whateverenzol and
whatever all the otherantiparasitic.
So the other one was is it okayto sleep with onions beneath the
feet?
Sure, and can ivermectin betaken during a detox protocol?
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Well, the problem withpregnancy is that the only study
that are on animals, because itwould be unethical to give a
pregnant woman somethingpotentially dangerous.
Just get information thatsomething potentially dangerous,
just get information that it'sdangerous, and that would
actually make it unethical aswell.
So the question was canivermectin be taken during a
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pregnancy protocol, and is itrecommended to take fedbenazole
along with ivermectin?
So yes, as we've mentioned manytimes, the anti-worms, which are
the anti-albinics, the triadthat I think works very well is
ivermectin and one of thebenzimidazoles, fedbendazole or
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bevendazole or albendazole.
The third one, which I thinkshould be my close one unless
you've got a specific situationwhere you think you have a flat
worm in your liver from eatingraw fish in Southeast Asia, then
you'll want to change toprasequantum.
So that's the worms.
And then the protozoa can bekept at bay, not causing
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problems, by using tinidazolemetronidazole but tinidazole is
better in this regard.
But also there's a drug callednitazoxonide which goes by the
brand name of lily.
It's an amazing drug because itactually eliminates CFCs, but
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it also is both worm andantiprotozoal, so very important
.
And so the doses can bedepending on weight and age and
all that.
But usually for an adult,ivermectin is 12 milligrams
three times a day, the medazoleis 222 milligrams three times a
day, or the medbenzole 500milligrams three times a day.
The medbenazole is 222milligrams three times a day, or
the medbenazole 500 milligramsthree times a day, and the
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niclosamide 500 milligrams threetimes a day, and the nitoxanide
is 500 milligrams three times aday as well.
And then there are antifungalsincluded which are fluconazole
and or nystatin, and fluconazolecan be 103 times a day as well.
And then there are antifungalsincluded which are fluconazole
and or nystatin, and fluconazolecan be 103 times a day, or it
could be.
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There's different ways.
The doctors write it in the US150 or 200 milligrams, so the
nystatin would be 500,000 unitsbecause it's in units, three
times a day.
So you've got that.
And I know it's in units threetimes a day.
So you've got that.
No, it's recommended when you'redoing a water test not to be
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doing anything other than not tobe taking anything other than
water and then prescribedmedicines that would cause you
damage if you quit them abruptlyand didn't wean.
So hold on a moment, let mejust go find that out.
So the next question is fromAnnette.
She goes hi, stop the meds, asinstructed to take an antifungal
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by day three.
Flare-up was up so intense Ihad to start the meds again.
Can you recommend a rotationprotocol so parasites are never
without meds, or a five to twoschedule each week because of
the adverse reaction to athree-day zone?
Well, in your situation,annette, that doesn't happen
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with everyone.
Most people can take a week off, and it's helpful in biology
because we always want to giveour bodies a break from whatever
we're introducing to it,because in nature, nothing is
every day except breathing.
But I mean nothing is every day, nothing is available every day
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, which is why animals don't eatall the time, and they won't
eat until they find food.
They run into food that fitswithin their instinctual
parameters.
All right, so for you,apparently, if you go more than
two days, you can do two days,but if you go more than two days
, then you wind up getting anextreme flare-up, and so I don't
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I wonder what the flare-up was,you know.
But keep in mind that youshould be doing the liver detox
protocol, right, that we'vetalked about?
And let me show you one otherthing here.
There it is, let's see.
No, that's not.
I'm not going to spend timelooking for it.
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Okay, can't find it.
And so what I was looking foris basically, you want to be
taking, during the whole periodyou should be taking, the liver
detox protocol, and the reasonfor this is that each of these
medications all require verysimilar actions by the liver to
neutralize them, which meansyour liver is working on four or
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five medications daily, right,and so it can get tired or
exhausted in one area, and thenyou see a flare-up of enzymes.
And don't worry about the liver,because the liver is the most
resilient and restorative organin our body.
You can donate two-thirds of itto a sibling and it will grow
back.
No other organ does that.
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It's very similar to a lizard'stail, so it's a very
regenerative organ.
It doesn't mean it should beabused.
It just means that it's a veryregenerative organ.
It doesn't mean it should beabused.
It just means that it's a veryregenerative organ, not like our
kidneys or stomach or lungs.
So that's that.
And here's Don.
Don says I'm 87 and in goodhealth, other than the return of
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my prostate CFC after 10 years.
I feel that I'm doing well formy age and I can and I am active
.
I can do most things that I doat 70.
My wife and I are stilltogether after six, five years
Fantastic.
I am not left with many optionsto treat the CFCs.
My last PFC was TSA was 0.20.
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I mentioned an holistic approachlike FedMed or IVM, but you
need a protocol.
Can you help me?
Absolutely?
If you go to our website,drlodycom drlodycom and I think
it would be good for you to jointhe CFC group which would deal
specifically with that you and Ican speak twice a week because
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you'll have access to all themeetings and we can talk about
your current situation, theprogress and all that.
So that's a very, veryimportant way to do it.
In fact it's the only way.
But your PSA was 0.20, so itsounds like you must have had a
surgery.
Anyway, that's how you do it.
So please Don join.
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There's a parasite group inthere, alright, so this is Laura
, and Laura says I want all thedetails on parasite detox and
heavy medicine detox for me andmy children.
Well, all the details.
You can get all the details ifyou join the health and healing
group.
But short of that, the onlydifference between adults and
children are the amounts youwould use if you were using, for
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example, part of your detoxprotocol included a parasite
cleanse and the antifarasiticmedication, right, which I just
went over, actually, with theformer question.
But the other thing is thatwith children, the dosages would
be different because it goes bybody weight and all these drugs
are actually safe for children.
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They're given to childrenworldwide because the conditions
that we've identified, such asyou know roundworm and you know
flatworms and you know all theworms that are well-known
pinworms and all that areworldwide, and so they're taken.
These medications are taken forpeople all over the world.
And then there are specific andunusual parasites, like
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Onchoceriasis, where it getsinto the eye, or you take
Ivermectin, take ivermectin.
So it really depends on whatyou've been, laura, so what's
been your recent exposure andare there any symptoms etc.
To really come up withappropriate protocol and then,
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as I said for the children, we'dhave to decrease for body
weight.
But so with the parasite detoxit's on the website but also the
uh heavy metal detox, the wayyou detox from it is you stop
eating them.
So you've got to watch out forthe food that you're eating.
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And then the the way that weeliminate it on purpose, not by
some bodily mechanism, isthrough different chelation
agents.
So there is the calciumdisodium, edta, or just the EDTA
, and a lot of times the EDTA isexchanged for calcium EDTA,
which is a good idea in terms ofits ability to give it fast and
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all that, and it's equally aseffective in removing the metals
.
But you don't get the extrabenefit of really adjusting the
thyroid, which it naturallyadjusts the thyroid.
So, laura, yeah, someone wasmaking my attention, bringing my
attention to All right, verygood, okay.
Now this is a question from Jenand it's called Alternative CFC
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Therapies.
Have you heard of Dr PatSoon-Shiong?
He is a former UCLA professorand medical doctor and a CFC
researcher for over 30 years.
He has a theory that people whocannot clear the COVID virus or
vaccine develop long COVID,which suppresses our immune
system, which leads to CFCs.
(25:54):
He said it destroys killerT-cells and other protective
measures in the body.
He has developed BioShieldwhich clears the virus and puts
it in the CTC and other things.
I listened to him speak on adaily show.
At other shows he talks exactlylike you, dr ludi, in regards
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to cancer and the standard ofcare.
He is objective people withglioblastoma, hiv and other
diseases with great success.
All right, so well, soundsamazing.
I don't know the fellow, butSounds amazing.
I don't know the fellow, but itsounds amazing and this is a
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very powerful.
However, I don't think youwould have to worry about
clearing the COVID vaccine,because I don't think it exists
the COVID bacteria virus and, ofcourse, the vaccine and
developing long COVID.
We found out that the onlypeople that develop what they're
calling long COVID are peoplewho have been vaccinated or
injected non-vaccinated.
So that's what we're finding.
So in that regard, I'm not sure.
(27:04):
Maybe his explanation would be alittle bit different on what
he's doing, so we'd have to hearthat.
But it's usually a simple thingthat you do once or twice a
week, but it's quite complicatedto understand, so I'd love to
hear that.
So right, if you can actuallycause any damage to the immune
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system.
You're actually helping the CFC.
It's a very you know whether ornot there's theories, and
theories are opinions.
People don't have the knowledge, because if you have the
knowledge about something, it'sno longer a theory.
So but what I love about it isthat it actually does restore
the immune system, the strengthof our immune system.
(27:46):
So it is interesting that he'sinjecting people daily with
glioblastomas, hiv and otherswith great success.
So I'd love to find out whatthat is.
I would definitely look up DrPat Soon-Shion.
It sounds pretty amazing.
So here's a new name S-N-N or aname, not a new name.
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She says I stopped meds as itto take antinephalos by 31.
Antiphalos by day threeFlare-up was so intense.
This is very similar.
So can you recommend a supportor rotation schedule so
parasites are never missed on afive-to-two schedule because of
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the severe adverse reaction tothree days of the drugs?
That's really odd, becauseprior to taking the drugs were
things very severe and then.
So anyway, annette, I hopeyou're on the Parasite Telegram
group so we can talk directly,we can interact.
So if not, join it, becauseyou've already paid for it by
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being a member, so it's free.
Definitely get on that.
So here are some comments ondifferent platforms.
Is creatine good for women, forstrength, strength in bones,
health, or, if you had, thankyou.
Well, creatine is a naturalproduct that we produce for that
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purpose.
So the answer is no.
I mean it's not dangerous ordeleterious.
It's a pretty natural substance.
And this is from Charlie.
He says greetings.
What's the discount code for theCDC group?
Oh, wow, I'm not sure of thediscount code for the CDC group.
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Hopefully someone's going topost it soon.
So now that you've asked thisquite formally, I hope it gets
answered on our chat, because Idon't personally know the
discount code.
I'm not sure if it works Now.
Are we?
The next person would be Viada.
Her question is hello, the US.
(30:02):
Tells I've got polyps andgallbladder.
I would like to takeanti-parasitic treatment.
Tells I've got polyps andgallbladder.
I would like to takeanti-parasitic treatment.
I've already got the homeivermectin and Vermox.
I still don't have Prasequantum.
My family doctor wouldcertainly refuse to support me
in this treatment.
Should I take any substance likeNAC or probiotic?
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So yeah, you've got to join theParasite group really, because
this is important, and get allthe details you can.
But unless you have a specificreason for taking Prezi or
Quanto.
You don't need it.
You can take Nyklosamide 500milligrams three times a day and
that you can get quite easilyfrom nyklosamcom.
And there was another one.
What is that?
It's all science.
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I'm not sure what that is, butanyway, that's I wish I knew.
Off the top of my head.
I feel like I answered in thechat, but that one's very
important because you can getalmost anything you need there
without a prescription.
So that's, wow, very helpful.
So now this is so.
The US tells us I've gotproblems with the gallbladder.
I've already got it.
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I still don't have a prostate.
Okay, so you understand that.
Should I take any supplementslike NAC or probiotic while
taking this treatment?
And absolutely, and theprotocol for the liver support
during this, as we've gone over,is alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin
, milk, thistle and some sourceof vitamin B1, thiamine and
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alpha-lipoic acid.
Oh yeah, I said thatAlpha-lipoic acid and the NAC,
n-acetylcysteine, andN-acetylcysteine is just a
single amino acid which you canget at Sprouts or Whole Foods or
any place like that, or onlineanywhere.
So those are all easilyobtainable without having to see
a doctor.
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It's crazy.
So these are from instagram.
What is the safest scan to showif cfcs are actually in the body
.
Well, yeah, you know, none ofthem are are without safety
concerns.
None of them.
Even a simple x-ray or maybe anultrasound would be without
safety concerns.
But the thing that we need tobe aware of is that we want to
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make sure that whatever we'redoing is going to give us the
results that allow us to seewhat we're looking for.
So sometimes we'll find we haveto do things that carry some
risk, but again we weigh therisk and decide what's necessary
.
So if your conventional doctoror even alternative doctor has
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concluded they don't know how towork with you therapeutically
unless they have thisinformation, then you're in a
situation where you have to doit.
Now the best scanning for CFCs,I think, is a PET along with a
CT.
They do it at the same time,and that is because you see the
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anatomy, precisely where it'slocated and what its dimensions
are, and you also see theactivity level, which is
essential to know because that'syour baseline, and after you've
been treating for six or eightweeks, you'll notice that then
you'd want to see have wediminished the size but not the
activity, or the size and theactivity, or just the activity,
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or anyway, that's very importantto know.
So the second question is how'sa detox from metals and
parasites?
Naturally, a four-year-old.
Well, are you sure yourfour-year-old has parasites?
So, with your four-year-old,what you want to do is just make
sure that you're feeding itvery healthy food, because
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four-year-olds have a very highnutritional requirement because
of the rate at which they'regrowing.
So you can use smoothies, thefresh nut milk with chia seed,
using it to make a chia seedinstead of what we use to make a
chia seed porridge.
But instead you take a coupletablespoons of the chia seed,
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grind them up and put them inthe milk nut milk and two
handfuls of spinach, and thenwhatever else you want pineapple
, coconut, strawberry, apple tomake it delicious.
And that would be a daily thing,because if you put a child on a
juice cleanse, they're going tofeel like they're starving.
You're not going to be able toreason with them at three years
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old, unfortunately.
You can require that of yourchildren, but you should do it
in a way that helps themunderstand what they're doing
and do it with them.
It's always best to do thegreen juice cleanse or juice
cleanse with them so they seethat you're both doing it and
you're okay and that youunderstand how they're feeling
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and all that sort of thing.
So it's always very importantto do that, all right.
So do I have any thoughts aboutgetting the shingles vaccine?
The answer is nay.
And then after the secondthought, nay, and then after the
third thought, nay, you gottaunderstand that it doesn't even
make sense to get a shingles.
The other ones don't work.
If you know that they don'twork, you might think it makes
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sense.
But shingles is the recurrenceof a chickenpox, which in a
sense, recurrence is that theexosome or virus that they call
it, hangs out in the spinalcolumn, probably the roots.
The roots are where theperipheral nerves come out of
the spinal column, probably theroots.
The roots are where theperipheral nerves come out of
the spinal column and they onlycome out or get active when the
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person is stressed, right.
So that's either physicalstress, stress or emotional
distress, and over a period oftime.
So physical would be like theyhad a period of time in their
lives where they just were notgoing to bed until two or three
in the morning and they foundthemselves drinking alcohol or
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other things at night, notgetting sleep.
Just in a continuous time likethat will weaken the immune
system which allows thatbreakout to occur.
So that's what I wanted to sharewith you, and I don't use the
word vaccine, because they'renot vaccines.
None of them are.
They do not do what they claim.
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They do not do what they claim.
We have a vaccination programthat was developed by God and
it's in our bodies and it worksextremely well, and it has for
millions of years.
And isn't it odd to considerthat?
How the heck did we all survive, including animals and all that
, when there were no vaccinesaround?
How did we make it here?
In fact, think about this.
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Who invented vaccines?
The unvaccinated, the wholething is a bizarre scam.
So don't get locked up in it,just get out of it, wow.
Okay, so I feel like my legsare wobbly and I can't walk far,
wow.
Well, I would like to know a lotmore about your current
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situation, to understand it andrespond.
That's why it'd be reallyhelpful to ask this on one of
our Zoom meetings.
If you were to join the group,you could join the health and
healing group.
So do you have any specificillnesses that are being treated
so that you're being exposed tosome form of toxicity?
So really need to know that.
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Is there a chronic illnessaround that or this just
developed out of.
You were fine, and now you justhave wobbly legs and can't walk
.
Now when you say wobbly legs, doyou mean are they also deformed
?
Are they deformed in thatthey're skinnier than they
normally are?
It's an obvious problem byanybody who saw.
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And so I'm imagining you can'twalk, but because they're so
wobbly you can't bear any weightto support stepping.
So I would like to know thecontext of what's going on, how
long it's been going on or whereare they.
And I found when they did ascan and so anyway.
So you started out thissentence with saying I feel like
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my legs are wobbly, so would bereally helpful if you could
send in a some of the imaging tome so I could look at it and
see what I can see thus far anddecide whether or not something
else is necessary and also, withthat, give a brief medical
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history so I can know whereyou're, at what context this is
all happening.
So it could help.
All right.
So now the next question.
Let me see this.
I don't see it.
Okay.
So here's thoughts on CatzillaStage 1, triple positive, did
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four months, taxol, lepectomyand still small residual.
So these.
Let's see.
I have not heard of thisparticular.
It's Trastuzumab.
Trastuzumab is also calledHerceptin, but I never heard the
brand name of Catechizumab.
But anyway, that's what it is.
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It's a monoclonal antibody thatbinds to the HER2 receptor on
cells, and the HER2 receptor ison all cells anyway.
All cells have a HER1 throughHER5, also called epidermal
growth factors.
But what they're finding isthat it's upregulated with
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people with CFCs, and thereforepeople with CFCs you know, not
everyone, but you'll find thatHER2 is positive and for some
reason it's just that one that'supregulated, not the other ones
.
And so they've developed amonoclonal antibody that attacks
that.
Remember, a monoclonal antibodyis an antibody that's been made
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by your body to something thatthey're aiming for.
So it's got a place perhaps inthe entire program that you
might have for healing, but it'sgot a.
So there's pretty much what'scalled the immunotherapy.
Nowadays with CFCs arefundamentally two kinds.
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One is the monoclonal antibodypart and the other is the pd1,
pdl1 blockers checked, calledcheckpoint inhibitors, but so
with her too.
What's interesting too is hertwo is not only with breast.
It can be found with colon, itcan be found with, so it's not
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only breasts.
So very important to understand, but they don't usually look
for it, which is odd.
But anyway, again, what what ispreferable is to understand is
that her two is going to bepositive, um, on a group of
people regardless of and there'sno, there's no way to know
which people are going to beHER2 positive and HER2 negative.
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But if you understand that,that's just that your epidermal
growth factor number two hasbeen upregulated and that,
therefore, what the epidermalgrowth factor says is when it
gets stimulated, it causesgrowth.
So it's just one of themechanisms that continues the
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growth of the tumor, just one ofthem.
So, basically, if we're doingwhat we always talk about, which
is removing all the reasons whytumors occur, which is through
our detox, and we're targetingthe CFCs with non-toxic
therapies based on theirmetabolism and we're
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re-awakening the immune system,then we're doing all that we
really can, or all that's reallynecessary as well.
So my thoughts on the Cacicillaare, since this is not such a
dangerous medication they allhave poison but it's really even
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more importantly that you makethe decision based on your
feeling and sense of things.
So a lot of times when peopleask this kind of question, their
feeling is they shouldn't, butthey have another, deeper
feeling that says but I have to,I'm afraid if I don't, and
that's a conflict within basedon not having enough knowledge.
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So that's where you've got toreally investigate it.
So what you need to understandis you know, what are these
epidermal growth factors?
Why are they on cells, etcetera?
These epidermal growth factors,why are they on cells, et
cetera?
And then, secondly, what is theadvantage to CFCs by
upregulating to have more of itaround?
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And then you have to understandthe different therapies, how
they're produced and what they,which we're talking about
monoclonal antibodies and thenwhat's their direct action on
the tumor that is considered thegoal, and what are the other
actions that could not be, thatcould be considered adverse, or
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are there other positive effects?
Because it's something you haveto decide.
And the reason I say that isbecause if you took my advice or
anyone's advice on what todecide and yet you still had an
internal conflict, then thatinternal conflict will really
greatly inhibit healing.
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So why do I feel like this isfrom in the instagram?
I can't really see.
There's no names.
Why do I feel like the floor ismoving below me?
Well, if you feel like that,there's really, uh, two forms of
dizziness.
When we use the term dizziness,um, we're referring to being
light-headed, you know just like, oh, I'm dizzy, I'm gonna fall
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right.
Or being on a boat or where thefloor is moving, things are
spinning.
They're both called dizzy, butthey're two different phenomena.
The first one is usually due tosevere dehydration or something
else that's caused a bigdepletion volume of blood, and
dehydration is probably the mostcommon.
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So if that happens when youstand up, you don't have enough
blood volume that, even thoughthe arterioles in your legs kind
of clamp down to keep the bloodup there flowing up there and
not go down into the legs, ifyou're severely dehydrated or
you've had blood loss oranything like that, you won't be
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able to do that.
So you'll stand up and you'llfeel really lightheaded and you
need to sit down again.
So that's one.
The other one is an inner ear,not a middle ear, not an outer
ear, but an inner ear problem.
And what the inner ear is?
It's on three different planesand they're kind of like these
hollowed-out stone constructedof stone, whatever they are.
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They're these hollowed-outtubes of stone.
Whatever they're they're anyway, they're these hollowed out
tubes that have in them littlehairs that form them, are part
of the floor and they, as theyare moved, they produce an
electrical signal that goes tothe brain and gets interpreted.
So when you were a child and youwould spin around on purpose
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fast and then stop, and it wasfun because you were still
spinning.
But you're spinning in theopposite direction.
So the reason is because thefluid was going this way while
you were going this way and thenwhen you stopped, when you just
stopped and kept going, itcaused you to feel it's called
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vertigo Instead of dizziness,it's called vertiginous.
You feel vertigo andfortunately that doesn't last
very long.
As soon as your body stops, thefluid stops flowing.
But there are many people whowind up getting chronic vertigo,
which could be a real problem,and there are actually websites
and groups that you can join forthat.
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So I don't really know.
So it sounds like for you it'sjust beginning, and since you're
focusing on the fact that yourlegs can't you can't walk
because your legs are wobbly itsounds like that whatever the
subjective feeling in your headis not significant.
So you've got to find out whichone it is.
So you've got to go to a doctoror any kind of clinician that's
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able to help you figure thatout, and then you'd be best to
go to a holistically alternativemedicine type of person in your
area who would have the abilityto evaluate you and treat you
appropriately.
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And you can look in yourjournals.
There's the we've talked aboutthis before the American Academy
of Anti-Aging Medicine, I'msorry, and there's also the
American Academy of what is thatone called?
I don't know why all of I saideverything's in Chinese, what
I'm trying to get an image.
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Anyway, it's called theAmerican College for the
Advanced Medicine, also calledACAM, and the reason it's
important is because everyonewho's trained through there,
who's been trained by them andthey're very good it'll be on
their website as having beentrained, and you can pretty much
be assured that they weretrained well for this.
Whether or not they rememberand they do it correctly and all
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that is one thing, but the factis that they were trained well,
and I'm looking here right now.
So one of the notes here is letus find an integrated physician
near you.
So you click on this, all right, so I don't have your name, but
, uh, about the floor movingunder your feet.
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Um, as I said, it sounds likeit's a.
It's early on in the conditionand if the if you're, if you're
focused mostly on the legsmoving around, um, and you're
not really talking about anexperience that's going on in
your head, and that there are noassociated symptoms like nausea
because if you were on a boatlike that you would be nauseous,
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so none of that is happeningThen you should maybe go to I
don't even know if there are anyholistic or, alternatively,
reminding oncologists, but youcan go to any kind of doctor,
because the treatment forvertigo, first of all, is
finding out what, what's causingit, what kind it is and what's
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causing it, and eliminating thatcause.
But it also involvesdetoxification and you know
everything that we do.
But in the meantime, if they,if the subjective feeling is so
powerful that you actually getnauseated by standing up and
walking, if you ever get to thatpoint, then it's really
important to treat it andthere's a treatment for it.
It's not available in Thailandor somewhere, but you can order
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it from the US and I'm sure mostother countries use it because
it works and it's important andit's basically a class of
medications calledphenothiazines, the
phenothiazine that would blockthere are actually two that
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would block the nauseaassociated with this kind of
sensation.
Imagine if it.
Imagine if it was really activeand you just you couldn't not
be dizzy, it would be a bummer.
So it's used for that.
It's both the promethazine,which is commonly used, and the
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chloroparasine, which isbasically the common one.
So they block that and you justdo them for short periods.
You don't do them for prolongedperiods, because these types of
medications, if you do them fortoo long you can get kind of
bizarre psychological effects.
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I've never gotten a clearanswer from people who are doing
it, but it's like they'reseeing bugs or things, seeing
things like that and that's nofun.
You don't want to get that way.
So you don't take them for longperiods, but they will turn off
the nausea associated with thatbecause it's hard otherwise
this, the nausea associated withthat right.
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So anyway.
So the lesser medication that'sused in that wise, the lesser
medication that's used in thatsituation, is called meclizine.
Meclizine is usually 25milligrams, probably three times
a day.
It could be up, go up asnecessary and down as necessary.
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What it does is it actuallyallows you to take control of
what you're doing, rather thanhaving someone else tell you
what to do, and I always preferthat.
Okay.
So meclizine 25 milligrams,anywhere from one to four times
a day, actually stops thespinning.
That's fantastic.
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Not just the nausea associatedwith it, but it stops the
spinning.
That's fantastic.
Not just the nausea associatedwith it, but it stops the
spinning.
And it's in the same drugcategory.
You'll see how this, becauseyou'll notice it ends with
Z-I-N-E and you just getmethamphetamine and I've never
seen it not work on people.
So 25 milligrams a day, we'reup to one to four times a day.
So here's the next question, andagain I don't quite have the
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name.
The question is stage four orfive years into local recurrence
on same breast, other parts,stable, surgery.
So usually other parts, stablesurgery.
Stage four, stable, five yearsin local recurrence on same
breast, other parts stable.
Okay.
So anyway, when you say otherparts, I'm assuming that you
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mean you might have secondarylocations of tumors like
metastasis, and so there was alocal recurrence on the same
breast, other parts stable.
And the question is surgery.
All right, so you've had alocal recurrence on the same
breast where apparently I guesssome surgery was done, either a
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lumpectomy or a mastectomy I'mnot sure you know that or a
mastectomy.
So anyway, a local recurrencejust means it's growing, usually
on the scar, and that's notunusual on the scar or around it
, because actually, as it'sbeing removed, the stem cells
get out and that's basically it.
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And remember, our job is to notmake the body a hospital host,
hospitable host to stem cells,meaning that the soil they land
in just is not compatible withthem becoming strong, but it is
compatible with us becomingstrong, healthy and vibrant.
And then what's an appropriateemail for reaching out in your
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podcast interview?
Oh well, thomas at drlodycom,t-h-o-m-a-s at drlodycom would
be an appropriate email.
Or hello at drlodycom.
Somebody's scraping my window.
So this next question is I'mlosing lots of weight on a keto
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diet and with left and withbreast cfc, breast left, breast
hormone therapy, one thing is tokeep energy.
So you're losing lots of energyor lots of weight on the keto
giant.
Well, that's going to happenbecause the keto diet actually
the goal and I think we'vetalked about this several times
when one gets into a state ofketosis, which means that they
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have predominantly ketone bodiesbeing made, which are breakdown
products of fat and they becomethe central part of metabolism.
When that's happening, you'rein a state of ketosis, part of
metabolism.
When that's happening, you'rein a state of ketosis and of
course that would happen ifyou're not eating enough carbs,
because carbohydrates will turnon the glucose metabolism.
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So if you're not eating carbsand you are eating fats, that
will turn into ketone bodies andsince you're not eating
carbohydrates, your body will bebreaking down your own fats,
which is why we have fat intoketone bodies.
So the ketone bodies will beused for fuel.
They'll provide energy to thecells.
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But when you say you're on aketo diet, often people think
they are and they're doing it,but they're not really measuring
anything to know if they are.
So at least once a day, doingyour ketone bodies and your
glucose to figure out yourglucose to ketone index, your
GKI, and usually you want thatto be less than 1.0.
It's hard to achieve just onfood, even if you're eating all
fat.
So in spite of what you'reeating, you probably have to do
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one to two days a week of justwater only just to keep you in a
generalized ketosis.
And so ketosis will obviouslyprevent the.
It prevents the.
In order to get into ketosis youhave to not have the carbs, so
there'll be no stimulus toproduce fat, so body weight will
come down for that reason andbecause you're breaking down the
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fat to be used for fuel.
Yeah, so that's why you'relosing weight, which is perfect,
not only perfectly fine, butactually something you want to
happen, unless you've reachedthe point where you're cachectic
, where your body's actuallyconsuming itself, and for that
if that's where you get to thepoint is you've got to stop,
because cach cachexia can bevery nasty.
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It's way different thancatching a cold or anything like
that or anything that's goingto involve one organ system,
because cachexia involves thewhole body.
It really evolves from the factthat people don't want to eat
or can't eat.
So in order to work withsomeone with that condition, you
would work with them due to thecauses, each separate part.
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So if they can't eat becausethey're nauseous, or they can't
eat because there's anobstruction or whatever it is,
you have to deal with that.
If they don't want to eat, inother words, they have no
appetite If you have the luxury,the best thing to do is wait
and see how long it would takefor someone to get an appetite,
and if you didn't want to waitthat long, you could just have
everything ready when they comeover and eat.
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But it's difficult.
So that's where the use ofcannabis comes in.
Cannabis is very important forstimulating appetite and it also
will have a beneficial effectif anyone gets nauseous from
eating and sometimes it's justthat the person hasn't eaten
enough over time so their GIsystem isn't working that well.
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But usually to get cachectic,it's usually in someone with
stage 4 that has gone tomultiple areas and is causing
major biochemical alert systemson different parts of the body,
which is exhausting the immunesystem and so the tumor
metabolism.
Well, our body gets turns backmainly to a tumor metabolism and
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so.
So that's the way to deal withit is.
And you know, the other thingwe use with cachexia, as we've
mentioned many times, is we wantto heal the gut and so we're
going to use the glutamine whichis the primary fuel for the
terocytes, small cell intestines, and it's a fuel for CFCs.
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However, it's also thenecessary fuel for lymphocytes,
which actually turn out to bethe cells that turn to become
natural killer cells and T cellsactivate that actually gobble
up and eat tumors.
So when you look at all therisks and benefits, the risk of
using it is far outweighs therisk of not using it, because
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you have to adapt, adjust to thefact that a certain therapy
cannot be used by you.
So we're going to find otherways of achieving the same thing
.
There are many different waysof getting the same thing as you
if we've got several in arizona.
Your thoughts on parasitecleanses should we all do one
per year?
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Yeah, I think we should all doinitially a good long one to
make sure that we've got themall, and then I think a one one
year daily maintenance would begreat.
You'll still be shocked if youcould manifest anything, but a
lot of people me, for instance,looking came out anywhere.
So if you want to see somethingit's usually people who are,
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who have obvious worms and stuffthat they can see all the time
and then they stop seeing themor they diminish significantly.
Then that's noted.
Otherwise it's really hard toknow what benefit you're getting
.
But yes, once a year isfantastic.
But actually what you mean is amaintenance.
So you've already done anintensive first year, which
could be three to nine months,depending, or a year, and now
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the maintenance would bedepending on how long that one
was, how long your initial onewas.
It can be anywhere from, Idon't know, 14 days up to two
weeks, up to eight, 12 weeks,and usually the longer the
better, because it does multiplebeneficial effects and it can
change the metabolism of thetumor.
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It's not central, so it's verygood.
Now, ben is all criticizedlately.
Cfc is coming back worse afterfirst success Again.
I think we talked about thislast week.
Please send me what you'reseeing in that regard and then
I'll read it and then we cantalk about it next week.
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But send me whatever you'reseeing about criticizing Finn
Vincente.
It was criticized before.
It was before Joe Timmons usedit.
It was called a dog D-Wormer ora horse D-Wormer or things like
that, and they didn't recommendit at all.
They said it was dangerous.
And all a dog D-Wormer or ahorse D-Wormer or things like
that.
They didn't recommend it at all.
They said it was dangerous, andall that for humans.
Well, it turns out it's not.
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Some were dangerous than theother ones and I've had hundreds
of people on all the different,but especially Fenn-Bendisal.
And the reason is becauseFenn-Bendisal has gained such
popularity because of JoeTippins, and other people have
followed in his doing exactlywhat he's doing with great
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results.
But it's not that the otherswouldn't work right and
researchers were not beingoffered grants to do it either.
However, joe Tippins came inand had already done it himself
and it showed an incredibleeffect.
So that's how it came to be.
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Otherwise, the medical worldfocuses on fembenazole and
albenzol and I'm not quite surewhy, but I mean why they decided
that these are human and thoseare animal, but they're not.
As I pointed out earlier, we,you know, when we're talking
about mammals, we all have verysimilar bodies for chambered
heart to lungs, for limbs,gastrointestinal tract.
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You know pretty much the same,except there are different
refinements and adaptations todifferent parts of the central
nervous system, which is brainand spinal cord, as well as the
peripheral nervous system.
So all right, you guys.
Green medicine.
All right, you guys.
I'm sure in the chat there'ssomewhere that people are
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telling us all the answers toour questions.
So, anyway, I apologize for thelate start today and I'll see
you tomorrow at the meeting.
Tomorrow, my morning, yournight, for the meeting, if
you're in that group.
Okay and aloha.
I wanted to comment on a little bit on iodine.
Let me just comment on thatreally quickly because I'll make
a short video If I can.
How do you make a short videoon something that's so
complicated?
It's very difficult.
But anyway, iodine is like theforgotten mineral and it's not a
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mineral in the sense thatsodium and magnesium are
minerals, because by definitionthey're called transition metals
and they carry a plus charge.
Of course they can't remain inthat position at all, so they
immediately have a negativecharge to hang out with.
So sodium gets chloride, whichis negative, and magnesium can
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get chloride or it can get.
They don't need two chlorides.
It can get oxide or bromide orfluoride, anything.
They can all act kind of thesame.
But iodide is at the bottom ofthe.
It's the largest of thehalogens and the halogens are
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bromide, fluoride and chloride.
Chloride, fluoride and bromideand then iodide.
They all have the same activity.
They're just larger.
Each one is larger than theother.
That's one of the problems withthyroid.
Is that the thyroid gland whenit's producing thyroid if there
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are no iodides around, whichhappens quite often since we
live in an iodide deficient soiland we don't need seaweed.
So unless you're Japanese andyou need a traditional diet with
a lot of seaweed, you won't begetting the iodide.
But you don't get the iodide asyou cannot make take three at
t4 because they rely on iodideand so what they'll use is
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something that's just asavailable or just as that fits
chemically for that reaction,and that would be the bromine
fluoride or chloride.
So you'll have your T3, maybeone, if you're lucky, one iodide
and maybe two fluorides orbromine fluoride, and the T4
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might have two chlorides and afluoride and a bromide in the
fluoride, and the T4 might havetwo chlorides in the fluoride
and a bromide or whatever.
So they still measure as T4 andT3, but they don't have the
activity, because the whole ideaof the thyroid hormone is to
deliver iodine to the cells,which has multiple effects, and
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one of them is control over theimmune system.
So if you don't have a healthythyroid, you won't have a
healthy immune system.
It's impossible.
But I don't know if this hasbeen talked about, but I wrote
about it years ago, so I'm goingto rewrite this paper on it.
So you should understand it,because it's the most really
forgotten.
And in fact there was a paperwritten called Iodophobia
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Medical Iodophobia, because forsome reason doctors are afraid
to use it and that has to dowith thyroid function and all
that.
So we'll go into that in thepaper.
But just to let you know thatiodine is very important.
It must be restored to healthylevels and that takes at least a
year of taking 25 milligrams aday.
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But then you're getting moreiodine in your system than would
be necessary for an activemaintenance.
An active maintenance would be12.5 milligrams but you're not
at maintenance yet because youhaven't reestablished or
established for the first timehealthy levels of iodine.
So for that reason you'll betaking 25 milligrams a day, just
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so that it doesn't take for thenext 10 years and that can and
will suppress thyroid hormoneoutput.
So, being aware of that andbeing aware that you've got two
simultaneous goals Number one isto restore healthy thyroid
function, which requires thatyou fill up the deficit of
iodine, because that's part ofthe final molecule in T3 and T4.
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And secondly, it is to maintaina healthy thyroid level
functioning while you are busyrestoring iodine supplies to the
body.
And you can only do that bytaking something exogenous
outside a thyroid.
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And I always use natural thyroidhormones Natural because they
have T3 and T4 in them and thatthey're derived from animals.
So those of us who arephilosophically or morally or
ethically opposed to killinganimals will probably have a
hard time taking these.
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They're called glandularsbecause they come from the
glands of either sheep or cows Ithink that's it sheep, or cows
and pigs.
I'm sorry they might come fromother mammals, which actually
illustrates one important fact,and that is the functioning of
the human body.
Its structure and functioning,its anatomy and physiology is
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very similar to all mammals,producing the same kinds of
hormones.
The hormones are the way thebody talks to itself, same with
peptides and all the otherproducts, which is why, for
example, when insulin was firstdiscovered, they were using
insulin from a pig.
Discovered they were usinginsulin from a pig, and so it
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was.
In order to extract it, youhave to remove the thyroid
glands of a pig or whateveranimal.
So that's the ethical dilemma.
So if that is a real problemfor you, the choice is getting
the synthetic versions of boththe T4, t3, and then putting
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them in the proper ratio.
And the T4 is easily obtainedand it's the only thing that
most doctors ever prescriptionthey have a right for when it
comes to thyroid levothyroxine.
Now, when it comes to thyroid, Idon't know.
Let me just review this for you.
When it comes to thyroid, theactive aspect is the T3.
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The T4 is inactive, in otherwords, it's a precursor,
pre-hormone, and it circulatesand when a cell needs it, it'll
grab it.
Take off the iodine.
One of the cells goes from T4to T3.
Now it fits, it can be Give you.
Anyway, that's how.
Now it fits, it can be give you.
So anyway, that's how thatworks and that's why you need to
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take iodine.
In spite of the fact that youwill, it will probably lower
your thyroid output and make youmore hypothyroid than you
already were.
And the way you combat this isby doing your basal body
temperatures in the morning.
That's certainly appropriatetimes for you to increase or not
increase, or just whetheryou're taking enough thyroid
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hormone or not.
The thyroid hormone that weusually look at are the porcine
ones from the US, which areWestroyd and Sitalo.
Well, no, anyway, from NewZealand.
It's thyroid bands, butbasically these are glandulars,
as we said.
All right, so come on, whereare we?
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Where are we?
Come on, there, we are.
Okay, very good, all right, uh,so now.
So someone has mentioned theytake a nascent thyroid.
That usually refers to only theiodine.
So remember the Lugol's in 1820, I think it was Armour.
That's right, sandy, thank you.
So it's Armour.
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Thyroid, westeroid, thyrovanseare the main ones.
I'm sure there's other.
Glandulars they provide you theT3 and the T4.
Glandulars they provide you theT3 and the T4.
Now Lugol, who was a chemist in1820s, and the problem was in
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order to make the solution, youhave to have double the amount
of iodide than iodine, becauseiodide is water soluble and
iodine is not.
So what happens is that, if youwere to, because you really
need more iodine than iodine,because iodine, which is a
molecular iodine, which is twoof them together, actually, what
that does is destroy CFCs, itdestroys bacteria.
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It also is a co-factor involvedin healthy estrogen metabolism,
which is very important.
So, yeah, that's it.
So that's why you'd use Lugol's, so you can get both.
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Now you're not going to getthem in the proper solution
because in order to sustain thesolution, you have to have a
more higher diet because it'swater-soluble, right?
So that means that Lugol, uhwill be giving you more iodide
to the thyroid, causing it todecrease itself.
But all right, if we couldsomehow find a way to reverse it
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so that there was more iodinethan iodide, it'd be great.
So it's not chemically possiblein that form.
So let's get on with the show,all right.
So, as we mentioned every weekwhich is a quick orientation if
you're new, first time watchingthis is that we don't use the
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word the astrological sign forpeople who have tumors.
We refer to that situation asexactly what it is, which is,
chronically fermenting cells.
All right.
So if you have chronicallyfermenting cells in the breast,
pancreas, colon, liver, brain,the chronically fermenting cells
and we use use that wordbecause that word is helpful,
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makes us feel good, gives us apurpose, a reason, a way out of
this dilemma, and because youknow what it is, you know how to
deal with it.
So it does all sorts ofwonderful things like that.
So, anyway, and if you currentlyhave CFCs, then our Oasis of
Healing in Arizona.
We're in our 20th year now.
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It's really wonderful.
It's not because I'm involvedwith it and you know I founded
it, but because it looks at allaspects of human nature that
need to be dealt with whenyou're ill with anything, and
that's the body, mind, spirit,continuum.
Right, you can't ignore any,but excellent, so you can call
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them All right.
So now and then all know we havethree groups called the.
What is it called?
The Dr Lodi community, and inthe Dr Lodi community are three
groups.
One is the health and healinggroup.
It was formerly called InnerCircle but we've changed it.
The Inner Circle sounded goodat first but it sounded sort of
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elitist and it really is thecommunity.
So if you're in any group theHealth and Healing Group,
parasite Group or CFC groups thecommunity that forms because
you have access, there's atelegram chat group that's
private to everybody's membersand what's shared on there is
amazing and most people that areon there have been dealing with
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whatever situation it isparasites or CFCs or whatever
for quite a long time andthey've got lots of experience
and they share that experience.
So it's amazing what goes onthere and it means that you have
more than just one person toconsult.
You have a lot of people toconsult and trust.
So it's fantastic in thatregard.
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So there's those three groupsand you can just go to our
website, drlodycom.
That's drlodycom, get on thewebsite and then you can join.
So if you're on Twitter, ofcourse what you're looking at
now is drthomaslodymd.
If you're on the new TikTok,you're also looking at
drthomaslodymd.
I don't know where we're on.
I don't think we're able tostream on TikTok and for all the
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rest Instagram, facebook,youtube, linkedin it's all at
drthomas Lodi.
There's no MD at the end, it'sonly for the X and Tickzot Dr
Lodi MD, thomas Lodi MD.
All right, and you can also goto the website and stream, which
is drlodicom slash live.
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So let's check out thequestions here.
For those of you who have beenwatching the Human Diet webinar
series, we had to postpone lastFriday's, which would have been
the third part, the thirdprogram, which was what does the
research say, until this comingFriday.
My Friday is your Thursday,sorry, your Thursday afternoon.
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What we're saying is what doesthe research say, what your
doctor says, you know what yourfriends say, you know what the
prevailing opinions are, but youdon't know what the research
says.
Because by knowing what theresearch says, you've studied it
and now you can answer ityourself.
And you need to know, becauseit's kind of important, and one
of the things that we're goingto do with the Dr Lodi community
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is we're going to improve theyou know once you join the
experience, because theexperience has been fragmented.
We didn't really have acoordinator for that.
So we're going to have someonewho specifically coordinates all
the different groups and itallows everyone to have a
relationship with that persontoo, answer questions and all
that.
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We're going to have videossummarizing what's available,
etc.
Because a lot of people weren'ttaking advantage of the fact
that, if they were unable to seeit live, you can watch a replay
.
A big part of what's availableis the weekly Zoom meetings.
We have weekly Zoom meetingstwo days a week.
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Soon it'll be three days a week, and that's where we can have
direct interaction.
You can ask direct questionsand it's really worthwhile.
And then, of course, we alreadyhave, as you know, a movement
specialist.
This is Darren.
He's a kinesiologist.
And then we have Vanessa, anutritionist and yoga coach, and
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then a have Vanessa, anutritionist and yoga coach, and
then he makes health educator.
And then we have Donna, who sayI've been eating uncooked vegan
food for 35 years now, so shegives the guidance on how to
make that transition and how tobe happy about it, how to be
happy about it.
It's gotta taste good, period,anyway.
So that's it, and we'reimproving that.
So I hope to see you all there,because that's how we can
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interact.
See the format on Sunday night,I can't interact.
I wind up doing it anyway.
There's no fear of I remittedit at all, unless you have a
specific hours here, so do itAll right.
So here we are.
Yes, all right.
So here we go.
Let's go to our question.
All right, so here we go, let'sget our questions.
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First question from CharlieRegarding breast CFCs.
Greetings, doc.
Is it better to do a detoxbefore going on a robust three
to seven day fast?
Is it okay to sleep with onionbeneath the feet at night during
a natural detox protocol orwhile fasting?
Can ivermectin be taken duringa protocol, a detox protocol,
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and what is your recommendeddose for taking fenbendazole and
ivermectin?
All right, so prettyinteresting questions.
So, really, the first questionis is it better to do a detox
before going on a robust threeto seven day water?
I'm imagining you mean waterfast.
Yes, I mean if you.
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Yes, yes, if you could do that,that would be good.
But if you can't do it that waybecause, whatever reasons, it's
okay, but you know that wouldbe ideal.
Okay, but you know that wouldbe ideal.
And of course, if you're doinga water fast true, fast then you
don't really take anysupplements or medicines unless
they're a medicine that you haveto take, in the words, if you
you can't just abruptly stopthem, so that's kind of medicine
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, you'd have to still take it.
But it's very different thandoing a juice cleanse where you
can still take the you know,ivermectin and whateverenzol and
whatever all the otherantiparasitic.
So the other one was is it okayto sleep with onions beneath the
feet?
Sure, and can ivermectin betaken during a detox protocol?
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Well, the problem withpregnancy is that the only study
that are on animals, because itwould be unethical to give a
pregnant woman somethingpotentially dangerous.
Just get information thatsomething potentially dangerous,
just get information that it'sdangerous, and that would
actually make it unethical aswell.
So the question was canivermectin be taken during a
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pregnancy protocol, and is itrecommended to take fedbenazole
along with ivermectin?
So yes, as we've mentioned manytimes, the anti-worms, which are
the anti-albinics, the triadthat I think works very well is
ivermectin and one of thebenzimidazoles, fedbendazole or
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bevendazole or albendazole.
The third one, which I thinkshould be my close one unless
you've got a specific situationwhere you think you have a flat
worm in your liver from eatingraw fish in Southeast Asia, then
you'll want to change toprasequantum.
So that's the worms.
And then the protozoa can bekept at bay, not causing
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problems, by using tinidazolemetronidazole but tinidazole is
better in this regard.
But also there's a drug callednitazoxonide which goes by the
brand name of lily.
It's an amazing drug because itactually eliminates CFCs, but
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it also is both worm andantiprotozoal, so very important
.
And so the doses can bedepending on weight and age and
all that.
But usually for an adult,ivermectin is 12 milligrams
three times a day, the medazoleis 222 milligrams three times a
day, or the medbenzole 500milligrams three times a day.
The medbenazole is 222milligrams three times a day, or
the medbenazole 500 milligramsthree times a day, and the
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niclosamide 500 milligrams threetimes a day, and the nitoxanide
is 500 milligrams three times aday as well.
And then there are antifungalsincluded which are fluconazole
and or nystatin, and fluconazolecan be 103 times a day as well.
And then there are antifungalsincluded which are fluconazole
and or nystatin, and fluconazolecan be 103 times a day, or it
could be.
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There's different ways.
The doctors write it in the US150 or 200 milligrams, so the
nystatin would be 500,000 unitsbecause it's in units, three
times a day.
So you've got that.
And I know it's in units threetimes a day.
So you've got that.
No, it's recommended when you'redoing a water test not to be
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doing anything other than not tobe taking anything other than
water and then prescribedmedicines that would cause you
damage if you quit them abruptlyand didn't wean.
So hold on a moment, let mejust go find that out.
So the next question is fromAnnette.
She goes hi, stop the meds, asinstructed to take an antifungal
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by day three.
Flare-up was up so intense Ihad to start the meds again.
Can you recommend a rotationprotocol so parasites are never
without meds, or a five to twoschedule each week because of
the adverse reaction to athree-day zone?
Well, in your situation,annette, that doesn't happen
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with everyone.
Most people can take a week off, and it's helpful in biology
because we always want to giveour bodies a break from whatever
we're introducing to it,because in nature, nothing is
every day except breathing.
But I mean nothing is every day, nothing is available every day
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, which is why animals don't eatall the time, and they won't
eat until they find food.
They run into food that fitswithin their instinctual
parameters.
All right, so for you,apparently, if you go more than
two days, you can do two days,but if you go more than two days
, then you wind up getting anextreme flare-up, and so I don't
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I wonder what the flare-up was,you know.
But keep in mind that youshould be doing the liver detox
protocol, right, that we'vetalked about?
And let me show you one otherthing here.
There it is, let's see.
No, that's not.
I'm not going to spend timelooking for it.
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Okay, can't find it.
And so what I was looking foris basically, you want to be
taking, during the whole periodyou should be taking, the liver
detox protocol, and the reasonfor this is that each of these
medications all require verysimilar actions by the liver to
neutralize them, which meansyour liver is working on four or
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five medications daily, right,and so it can get tired or
exhausted in one area, and thenyou see a flare-up of enzymes.
And don't worry about the liver,because the liver is the most
resilient and restorative organin our body.
You can donate two-thirds of itto a sibling and it will grow
back.
No other organ does that.
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It's very similar to a lizard'stail, so it's a very
regenerative organ.
It doesn't mean it should beabused.
It just means that it's a veryregenerative organ.
It doesn't mean it should beabused.
It just means that it's a veryregenerative organ, not like our
kidneys or stomach or lungs.
So that's that.
And here's Don.
Don says I'm 87 and in goodhealth, other than the return of
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my prostate CFC after 10 years.
I feel that I'm doing well formy age and I can and I am active
.
I can do most things that I doat 70.
My wife and I are stilltogether after six, five years
Fantastic.
I am not left with many optionsto treat the CFCs.
My last PFC was TSA was 0.20.
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I mentioned an holistic approachlike FedMed or IVM, but you
need a protocol.
Can you help me?
Absolutely?
If you go to our website,drlodycom drlodycom and I think
it would be good for you to jointhe CFC group which would deal
specifically with that you and Ican speak twice a week because
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you'll have access to all themeetings and we can talk about
your current situation, theprogress and all that.
So that's a very, veryimportant way to do it.
In fact it's the only way.
But your PSA was 0.20, so itsounds like you must have had a
surgery.
Anyway, that's how you do it.
So please Don join.
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There's a parasite group inthere, alright, so this is Laura
, and Laura says I want all thedetails on parasite detox and
heavy medicine detox for me andmy children.
Well, all the details.
You can get all the details ifyou join the health and healing
group.
But short of that, the onlydifference between adults and
children are the amounts youwould use if you were using, for
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example, part of your detoxprotocol included a parasite
cleanse and the antifarasiticmedication, right, which I just
went over, actually, with theformer question.
But the other thing is thatwith children, the dosages would
be different because it goes bybody weight and all these drugs
are actually safe for children.
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They're given to childrenworldwide because the conditions
that we've identified, such asyou know roundworm and you know
flatworms and you know all theworms that are well-known
pinworms and all that areworldwide, and so they're taken.
These medications are taken forpeople all over the world.
And then there are specific andunusual parasites, like
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Onchoceriasis, where it getsinto the eye, or you take
Ivermectin, take ivermectin.
So it really depends on whatyou've been, laura, so what's
been your recent exposure andare there any symptoms etc.
To really come up withappropriate protocol and then,
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as I said for the children, we'dhave to decrease for body
weight.
But so with the parasite detoxit's on the website but also the
uh heavy metal detox, the wayyou detox from it is you stop
eating them.
So you've got to watch out forthe food that you're eating.
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And then the the way that weeliminate it on purpose, not by
some bodily mechanism, isthrough different chelation
agents.
So there is the calciumdisodium, edta, or just the EDTA
, and a lot of times the EDTA isexchanged for calcium EDTA,
which is a good idea in terms ofits ability to give it fast and
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all that, and it's equally aseffective in removing the metals
.
But you don't get the extrabenefit of really adjusting the
thyroid, which it naturallyadjusts the thyroid.
So, laura, yeah, someone wasmaking my attention, bringing my
attention to All right, verygood, okay.
Now this is a question from Jenand it's called Alternative CFC
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Therapies.
Have you heard of Dr PatSoon-Shiong?
He is a former UCLA professorand medical doctor and a CFC
researcher for over 30 years.
He has a theory that people whocannot clear the COVID virus or
vaccine develop long COVID,which suppresses our immune
system, which leads to CFCs.
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He said it destroys killerT-cells and other protective
measures in the body.
He has developed BioShieldwhich clears the virus and puts
it in the CTC and other things.
I listened to him speak on adaily show.
At other shows he talks exactlylike you, dr ludi, in regards
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to cancer and the standard ofcare.
He is objective people withglioblastoma, hiv and other
diseases with great success.
All right, so well, soundsamazing.
I don't know the fellow, butSounds amazing.
I don't know the fellow, but itsounds amazing and this is a
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very powerful.
However, I don't think youwould have to worry about
clearing the COVID vaccine,because I don't think it exists
the COVID bacteria virus and, ofcourse, the vaccine and
developing long COVID.
We found out that the onlypeople that develop what they're
calling long COVID are peoplewho have been vaccinated or
injected non-vaccinated.
So that's what we're finding.
So in that regard, I'm not sure.
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Maybe his explanation would be alittle bit different on what
he's doing, so we'd have to hearthat.
But it's usually a simple thingthat you do once or twice a
week, but it's quite complicatedto understand, so I'd love to
hear that.
So right, if you can actuallycause any damage to the immune
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system.
You're actually helping the CFC.
It's a very you know whether ornot there's theories, and
theories are opinions.
People don't have the knowledge, because if you have the
knowledge about something, it'sno longer a theory.
So but what I love about it isthat it actually does restore
the immune system, the strengthof our immune system.
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So it is interesting that he'sinjecting people daily with
glioblastomas, hiv and otherswith great success.
So I'd love to find out whatthat is.
I would definitely look up DrPat Soon-Shion.
It sounds pretty amazing.
So here's a new name S-N-N or aname, not a new name.
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She says I stopped meds as itto take antinephalos by 31.
Antiphalos by day threeFlare-up was so intense.
This is very similar.
So can you recommend a supportor rotation schedule so
parasites are never missed on afive-to-two schedule because of
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the severe adverse reaction tothree days of the drugs?
That's really odd, becauseprior to taking the drugs were
things very severe and then.
So anyway, annette, I hopeyou're on the Parasite Telegram
group so we can talk directly,we can interact.
So if not, join it, becauseyou've already paid for it by
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being a member, so it's free.
Definitely get on that.
So here are some comments ondifferent platforms.
Is creatine good for women, forstrength, strength in bones,
health, or, if you had, thankyou.
Well, creatine is a naturalproduct that we produce for that
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purpose.
So the answer is no.
I mean it's not dangerous ordeleterious.
It's a pretty natural substance.
And this is from Charlie.
He says greetings.
What's the discount code for theCDC group?
Oh, wow, I'm not sure of thediscount code for the CDC group.
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Hopefully someone's going topost it soon.
So now that you've asked thisquite formally, I hope it gets
answered on our chat, because Idon't personally know the
discount code.
I'm not sure if it works Now.
Are we?
The next person would be Viada.
Her question is hello, the US.
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Tells I've got polyps andgallbladder.
I would like to takeanti-parasitic treatment.
Tells I've got polyps andgallbladder.
I would like to takeanti-parasitic treatment.
I've already got the homeivermectin and Vermox.
I still don't have Prasequantum.
My family doctor wouldcertainly refuse to support me
in this treatment.
Should I take any substance likeNAC or probiotic?
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So yeah, you've got to join theParasite group really, because
this is important, and get allthe details you can.
But unless you have a specificreason for taking Prezi or
Quanto.
You don't need it.
You can take Nyklosamide 500milligrams three times a day and
that you can get quite easilyfrom nyklosamcom.
And there was another one.
What is that?
It's all science.
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I'm not sure what that is, butanyway, that's I wish I knew.
Off the top of my head.
I feel like I answered in thechat, but that one's very
important because you can getalmost anything you need there
without a prescription.
So that's, wow, very helpful.
So now this is so.
The US tells us I've gotproblems with the gallbladder.
I've already got it.
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I still don't have a prostate.
Okay, so you understand that.
Should I take any supplementslike NAC or probiotic while
taking this treatment?
And absolutely, and theprotocol for the liver support
during this, as we've gone over,is alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin
, milk, thistle and some sourceof vitamin B1, thiamine and
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alpha-lipoic acid.
Oh yeah, I said thatAlpha-lipoic acid and the NAC,
n-acetylcysteine, andN-acetylcysteine is just a
single amino acid which you canget at Sprouts or Whole Foods or
any place like that, or onlineanywhere.
So those are all easilyobtainable without having to see
a doctor.
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It's crazy.
So these are from instagram.
What is the safest scan to showif cfcs are actually in the body
.
Well, yeah, you know, none ofthem are are without safety
concerns.
None of them.
Even a simple x-ray or maybe anultrasound would be without
safety concerns.
But the thing that we need tobe aware of is that we want to
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make sure that whatever we'redoing is going to give us the
results that allow us to seewhat we're looking for.
So sometimes we'll find we haveto do things that carry some
risk, but again we weigh therisk and decide what's necessary
.
So if your conventional doctoror even alternative doctor has
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concluded they don't know how towork with you therapeutically
unless they have thisinformation, then you're in a
situation where you have to doit.
Now the best scanning for CFCs,I think, is a PET along with a
CT.
They do it at the same time,and that is because you see the
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anatomy, precisely where it'slocated and what its dimensions
are, and you also see theactivity level, which is
essential to know because that'syour baseline, and after you've
been treating for six or eightweeks, you'll notice that then
you'd want to see have wediminished the size but not the
activity, or the size and theactivity, or just the activity,
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or anyway, that's very importantto know.
So the second question is how'sa detox from metals and
parasites?
Naturally, a four-year-old.
Well, are you sure yourfour-year-old has parasites?
So, with your four-year-old,what you want to do is just make
sure that you're feeding itvery healthy food, because
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four-year-olds have a very highnutritional requirement because
of the rate at which they'regrowing.
So you can use smoothies, thefresh nut milk with chia seed,
using it to make a chia seedinstead of what we use to make a
chia seed porridge.
But instead you take a coupletablespoons of the chia seed,
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grind them up and put them inthe milk nut milk and two
handfuls of spinach, and thenwhatever else you want pineapple
, coconut, strawberry, apple tomake it delicious.
And that would be a daily thing,because if you put a child on a
juice cleanse, they're going tofeel like they're starving.
You're not going to be able toreason with them at three years
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old, unfortunately.
You can require that of yourchildren, but you should do it
in a way that helps themunderstand what they're doing
and do it with them.
It's always best to do thegreen juice cleanse or juice
cleanse with them so they seethat you're both doing it and
you're okay and that youunderstand how they're feeling
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and all that sort of thing.
So it's always very importantto do that, all right.
So do I have any thoughts aboutgetting the shingles vaccine?
The answer is nay.
And then after the secondthought, nay, and then after the
third thought, nay, you gottaunderstand that it doesn't even
make sense to get a shingles.
The other ones don't work.
If you know that they don'twork, you might think it makes
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sense.
But shingles is the recurrenceof a chickenpox, which in a
sense, recurrence is that theexosome or virus that they call
it, hangs out in the spinalcolumn, probably the roots.
The roots are where theperipheral nerves come out of
the spinal column, probably theroots.
The roots are where theperipheral nerves come out of
the spinal column and they onlycome out or get active when the
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person is stressed, right.
So that's either physicalstress, stress or emotional
distress, and over a period oftime.
So physical would be like theyhad a period of time in their
lives where they just were notgoing to bed until two or three
in the morning and they foundthemselves drinking alcohol or
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other things at night, notgetting sleep.
Just in a continuous time likethat will weaken the immune
system which allows thatbreakout to occur.
So that's what I wanted to sharewith you, and I don't use the
word vaccine, because they'renot vaccines.
None of them are.
They do not do what they claim.
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They do not do what they claim.
We have a vaccination programthat was developed by God and
it's in our bodies and it worksextremely well, and it has for
millions of years.
And isn't it odd to considerthat?
How the heck did we all survive, including animals and all that
, when there were no vaccinesaround?
How did we make it here?
In fact, think about this.
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Who invented vaccines?
The unvaccinated, the wholething is a bizarre scam.
So don't get locked up in it,just get out of it, wow.
Okay, so I feel like my legsare wobbly and I can't walk far,
wow.
Well, I would like to know a lotmore about your current
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situation, to understand it andrespond.
That's why it'd be reallyhelpful to ask this on one of
our Zoom meetings.
If you were to join the group,you could join the health and
healing group.
So do you have any specificillnesses that are being treated
so that you're being exposed tosome form of toxicity?
So really need to know that.
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Is there a chronic illnessaround that or this just
developed out of.
You were fine, and now you justhave wobbly legs and can't walk
.
Now when you say wobbly legs, doyou mean are they also deformed
?
Are they deformed in thatthey're skinnier than they
normally are?
It's an obvious problem byanybody who saw.
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And so I'm imagining you can'twalk, but because they're so
wobbly you can't bear any weightto support stepping.
So I would like to know thecontext of what's going on, how
long it's been going on or whereare they.
And I found when they did ascan and so anyway.
So you started out thissentence with saying I feel like
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my legs are wobbly, so would bereally helpful if you could
send in a some of the imaging tome so I could look at it and
see what I can see thus far anddecide whether or not something
else is necessary and also, withthat, give a brief medical
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history so I can know whereyou're, at what context this is
all happening.
So it could help.
All right.
So now the next question.
Let me see this.
I don't see it.
Okay.
So here's thoughts on CatzillaStage 1, triple positive, did
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four months, taxol, lepectomyand still small residual.
So these.
Let's see.
I have not heard of thisparticular.
It's Trastuzumab.
Trastuzumab is also calledHerceptin, but I never heard the
brand name of Catechizumab.
But anyway, that's what it is.
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It's a monoclonal antibody thatbinds to the HER2 receptor on
cells, and the HER2 receptor ison all cells anyway.
All cells have a HER1 throughHER5, also called epidermal
growth factors.
But what they're finding isthat it's upregulated with
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people with CFCs, and thereforepeople with CFCs you know, not
everyone, but you'll find thatHER2 is positive and for some
reason it's just that one that'supregulated, not the other ones
.
And so they've developed amonoclonal antibody that attacks
that.
Remember, a monoclonal antibodyis an antibody that's been made
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by your body to something thatthey're aiming for.
So it's got a place perhaps inthe entire program that you
might have for healing, but it'sgot a.
So there's pretty much what'scalled the immunotherapy.
Nowadays with CFCs arefundamentally two kinds.
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One is the monoclonal antibodypart and the other is the pd1,
pdl1 blockers checked, calledcheckpoint inhibitors, but so
with her too.
What's interesting too is hertwo is not only with breast.
It can be found with colon, itcan be found with, so it's not
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only breasts.
So very important to understand, but they don't usually look
for it, which is odd.
But anyway, again, what what ispreferable is to understand is
that her two is going to bepositive, um, on a group of
people regardless of and there'sno, there's no way to know
which people are going to beHER2 positive and HER2 negative.
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But if you understand that,that's just that your epidermal
growth factor number two hasbeen upregulated and that,
therefore, what the epidermalgrowth factor says is when it
gets stimulated, it causesgrowth.
So it's just one of themechanisms that continues the
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growth of the tumor, just one ofthem.
So, basically, if we're doingwhat we always talk about, which
is removing all the reasons whytumors occur, which is through
our detox, and we're targetingthe CFCs with non-toxic
therapies based on theirmetabolism and we're
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re-awakening the immune system,then we're doing all that we
really can, or all that's reallynecessary as well.
So my thoughts on the Cacicillaare, since this is not such a
dangerous medication they allhave poison but it's really even
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more importantly that you makethe decision based on your
feeling and sense of things.
So a lot of times when peopleask this kind of question, their
feeling is they shouldn't, butthey have another, deeper
feeling that says but I have to,I'm afraid if I don't, and
that's a conflict within basedon not having enough knowledge.
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So that's where you've got toreally investigate it.
So what you need to understandis you know, what are these
epidermal growth factors?
Why are they on cells, etcetera?
These epidermal growth factors,why are they on cells, et
cetera?
And then, secondly, what is theadvantage to CFCs by
upregulating to have more of itaround?
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And then you have to understandthe different therapies, how
they're produced and what they,which we're talking about
monoclonal antibodies and thenwhat's their direct action on
the tumor that is considered thegoal, and what are the other
actions that could not be, thatcould be considered adverse, or
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are there other positive effects?
Because it's something you haveto decide.
And the reason I say that isbecause if you took my advice or
anyone's advice on what todecide and yet you still had an
internal conflict, then thatinternal conflict will really
greatly inhibit healing.
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So why do I feel like this isfrom in the instagram?
I can't really see.
There's no names.
Why do I feel like the floor ismoving below me?
Well, if you feel like that,there's really, uh, two forms of
dizziness.
When we use the term dizziness,um, we're referring to being
light-headed, you know just like, oh, I'm dizzy, I'm gonna fall
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right.
Or being on a boat or where thefloor is moving, things are
spinning.
They're both called dizzy, butthey're two different phenomena.
The first one is usually due tosevere dehydration or something
else that's caused a bigdepletion volume of blood, and
dehydration is probably the mostcommon.
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So if that happens when youstand up, you don't have enough
blood volume that, even thoughthe arterioles in your legs kind
of clamp down to keep the bloodup there flowing up there and
not go down into the legs, ifyou're severely dehydrated or
you've had blood loss oranything like that, you won't be
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able to do that.
So you'll stand up and you'llfeel really lightheaded and you
need to sit down again.
So that's one.
The other one is an inner ear,not a middle ear, not an outer
ear, but an inner ear problem.
And what the inner ear is?
It's on three different planesand they're kind of like these
hollowed-out stone constructedof stone, whatever they are.
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They're these hollowed-outtubes of stone.
Whatever they're they're anyway, they're these hollowed out
tubes that have in them littlehairs that form them, are part
of the floor and they, as theyare moved, they produce an
electrical signal that goes tothe brain and gets interpreted.
So when you were a child and youwould spin around on purpose
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fast and then stop, and it wasfun because you were still
spinning.
But you're spinning in theopposite direction.
So the reason is because thefluid was going this way while
you were going this way and thenwhen you stopped, when you just
stopped and kept going, itcaused you to feel it's called
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vertigo Instead of dizziness,it's called vertiginous.
You feel vertigo andfortunately that doesn't last
very long.
As soon as your body stops, thefluid stops flowing.
But there are many people whowind up getting chronic vertigo,
which could be a real problem,and there are actually websites
and groups that you can join forthat.
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So I don't really know.
So it sounds like for you it'sjust beginning, and since you're
focusing on the fact that yourlegs can't you can't walk
because your legs are wobbly itsounds like that whatever the
subjective feeling in your headis not significant.
So you've got to find out whichone it is.
So you've got to go to a doctoror any kind of clinician that's
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able to help you figure thatout, and then you'd be best to
go to a holistically alternativemedicine type of person in your
area who would have the abilityto evaluate you and treat you
appropriately.
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And you can look in yourjournals.
There's the we've talked aboutthis before the American Academy
of Anti-Aging Medicine, I'msorry, and there's also the
American Academy of what is thatone called?
I don't know why all of I saideverything's in Chinese, what
I'm trying to get an image.
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Anyway, it's called theAmerican College for the
Advanced Medicine, also calledACAM, and the reason it's
important is because everyonewho's trained through there,
who's been trained by them andthey're very good it'll be on
their website as having beentrained, and you can pretty much
be assured that they weretrained well for this.
Whether or not they rememberand they do it correctly and all
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that is one thing, but the factis that they were trained well,
and I'm looking here right now.
So one of the notes here is letus find an integrated physician
near you.
So you click on this, all right, so I don't have your name, but
, uh, about the floor movingunder your feet.
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Um, as I said, it sounds likeit's a.
It's early on in the conditionand if the if you're, if you're
focused mostly on the legsmoving around, um, and you're
not really talking about anexperience that's going on in
your head, and that there are noassociated symptoms like nausea
because if you were on a boatlike that you would be nauseous,
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so none of that is happeningThen you should maybe go to I
don't even know if there are anyholistic or, alternatively,
reminding oncologists, but youcan go to any kind of doctor,
because the treatment forvertigo, first of all, is
finding out what, what's causingit, what kind it is and what's
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causing it, and eliminating thatcause.
But it also involvesdetoxification and you know
everything that we do.
But in the meantime, if they,if the subjective feeling is so
powerful that you actually getnauseated by standing up and
walking, if you ever get to thatpoint, then it's really
important to treat it andthere's a treatment for it.
It's not available in Thailandor somewhere, but you can order
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it from the US and I'm sure mostother countries use it because
it works and it's important andit's basically a class of
medications calledphenothiazines, the
phenothiazine that would blockthere are actually two that
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would block the nauseaassociated with this kind of
sensation.
Imagine if it.
Imagine if it was really activeand you just you couldn't not
be dizzy, it would be a bummer.
So it's used for that.
It's both the promethazine,which is commonly used, and the
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chloroparasine, which isbasically the common one.
So they block that and you justdo them for short periods.
You don't do them for prolongedperiods, because these types of
medications, if you do them fortoo long you can get kind of
bizarre psychological effects.
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I've never gotten a clearanswer from people who are doing
it, but it's like they'reseeing bugs or things, seeing
things like that and that's nofun.
You don't want to get that way.
So you don't take them for longperiods, but they will turn off
the nausea associated with thatbecause it's hard otherwise
this, the nausea associated withthat right.
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So anyway.
So the lesser medication that'sused in that wise, the lesser
medication that's used in thatsituation, is called meclizine.
Meclizine is usually 25milligrams, probably three times
a day.
It could be up, go up asnecessary and down as necessary.
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What it does is it actuallyallows you to take control of
what you're doing, rather thanhaving someone else tell you
what to do, and I always preferthat.
Okay.
So meclizine 25 milligrams,anywhere from one to four times
a day, actually stops thespinning.
That's fantastic.
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Not just the nausea associatedwith it, but it stops the
spinning.
That's fantastic.
Not just the nausea associatedwith it, but it stops the
spinning.
And it's in the same drugcategory.
You'll see how this, becauseyou'll notice it ends with
Z-I-N-E and you just getmethamphetamine and I've never
seen it not work on people.
So 25 milligrams a day, we'reup to one to four times a day.
So here's the next question, andagain I don't quite have the
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name.
The question is stage four orfive years into local recurrence
on same breast, other parts,stable, surgery.
So usually other parts, stablesurgery.
Stage four, stable, five yearsin local recurrence on same
breast, other parts stable.
Okay.
So anyway, when you say otherparts, I'm assuming that you
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mean you might have secondarylocations of tumors like
metastasis, and so there was alocal recurrence on the same
breast, other parts stable.
And the question is surgery.
All right, so you've had alocal recurrence on the same
breast where apparently I guesssome surgery was done, either a
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lumpectomy or a mastectomy I'mnot sure you know that or a
mastectomy.
So anyway, a local recurrencejust means it's growing, usually
on the scar, and that's notunusual on the scar or around it
, because actually, as it'sbeing removed, the stem cells
get out and that's basically it.
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And remember, our job is to notmake the body a hospital host,
hospitable host to stem cells,meaning that the soil they land
in just is not compatible withthem becoming strong, but it is
compatible with us becomingstrong, healthy and vibrant.
And then what's an appropriateemail for reaching out in your
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podcast interview?
Oh well, thomas at drlodycom,t-h-o-m-a-s at drlodycom would
be an appropriate email.
Or hello at drlodycom.
Somebody's scraping my window.
So this next question is I'mlosing lots of weight on a keto
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diet and with left and withbreast cfc, breast left, breast
hormone therapy, one thing is tokeep energy.
So you're losing lots of energyor lots of weight on the keto
giant.
Well, that's going to happenbecause the keto diet actually
the goal and I think we'vetalked about this several times
when one gets into a state ofketosis, which means that they
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have predominantly ketone bodiesbeing made, which are breakdown
products of fat and they becomethe central part of metabolism.
When that's happening, you'rein a state of ketosis, part of
metabolism.
When that's happening, you'rein a state of ketosis and of
course that would happen ifyou're not eating enough carbs,
because carbohydrates will turnon the glucose metabolism.
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So if you're not eating carbsand you are eating fats, that
will turn into ketone bodies andsince you're not eating
carbohydrates, your body will bebreaking down your own fats,
which is why we have fat intoketone bodies.
So the ketone bodies will beused for fuel.
They'll provide energy to thecells.
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But when you say you're on aketo diet, often people think
they are and they're doing it,but they're not really measuring
anything to know if they are.
So at least once a day, doingyour ketone bodies and your
glucose to figure out yourglucose to ketone index, your
GKI, and usually you want thatto be less than 1.0.
It's hard to achieve just onfood, even if you're eating all
fat.
So in spite of what you'reeating, you probably have to do
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one to two days a week of justwater only just to keep you in a
generalized ketosis.
And so ketosis will obviouslyprevent the.
It prevents the.
In order to get into ketosis youhave to not have the carbs, so
there'll be no stimulus toproduce fat, so body weight will
come down for that reason andbecause you're breaking down the
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fat to be used for fuel.
Yeah, so that's why you'relosing weight, which is perfect,
not only perfectly fine, butactually something you want to
happen, unless you've reachedthe point where you're cachectic
, where your body's actuallyconsuming itself, and for that
if that's where you get to thepoint is you've got to stop,
because cach cachexia can bevery nasty.
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It's way different thancatching a cold or anything like
that or anything that's goingto involve one organ system,
because cachexia involves thewhole body.
It really evolves from the factthat people don't want to eat
or can't eat.
So in order to work withsomeone with that condition, you
would work with them due to thecauses, each separate part.
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So if they can't eat becausethey're nauseous, or they can't
eat because there's anobstruction or whatever it is,
you have to deal with that.
If they don't want to eat, inother words, they have no
appetite If you have the luxury,the best thing to do is wait
and see how long it would takefor someone to get an appetite,
and if you didn't want to waitthat long, you could just have
everything ready when they comeover and eat.
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But it's difficult.
So that's where the use ofcannabis comes in.
Cannabis is very important forstimulating appetite and it also
will have a beneficial effectif anyone gets nauseous from
eating and sometimes it's justthat the person hasn't eaten
enough over time so their GIsystem isn't working that well.
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But usually to get cachectic,it's usually in someone with
stage 4 that has gone tomultiple areas and is causing
major biochemical alert systemson different parts of the body,
which is exhausting the immunesystem and so the tumor
metabolism.
Well, our body gets turns backmainly to a tumor metabolism and
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so.
So that's the way to deal withit is.
And you know, the other thingwe use with cachexia, as we've
mentioned many times, is we wantto heal the gut and so we're
going to use the glutamine whichis the primary fuel for the
terocytes, small cell intestines, and it's a fuel for CFCs.
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However, it's also thenecessary fuel for lymphocytes,
which actually turn out to bethe cells that turn to become
natural killer cells and T cellsactivate that actually gobble
up and eat tumors.
So when you look at all therisks and benefits, the risk of
using it is far outweighs therisk of not using it, because
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you have to adapt, adjust to thefact that a certain therapy
cannot be used by you.
So we're going to find otherways of achieving the same thing
.
There are many different waysof getting the same thing as you
if we've got several in arizona.
Your thoughts on parasitecleanses should we all do one
per year?
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Yeah, I think we should all doinitially a good long one to
make sure that we've got themall, and then I think a one one
year daily maintenance would begreat.
You'll still be shocked if youcould manifest anything, but a
lot of people me, for instance,looking came out anywhere.
So if you want to see somethingit's usually people who are,
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who have obvious worms and stuffthat they can see all the time
and then they stop seeing themor they diminish significantly.
Then that's noted.
Otherwise it's really hard toknow what benefit you're getting
.
But yes, once a year isfantastic.
But actually what you mean is amaintenance.
So you've already done anintensive first year, which
could be three to nine months,depending, or a year, and now
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the maintenance would bedepending on how long that one
was, how long your initial onewas.
It can be anywhere from, Idon't know, 14 days up to two
weeks, up to eight, 12 weeks,and usually the longer the
better, because it does multiplebeneficial effects and it can
change the metabolism of thetumor.
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It's not central, so it's verygood.
Now, ben is all criticizedlately.
Cfc is coming back worse afterfirst success Again.
I think we talked about thislast week.
Please send me what you'reseeing in that regard and then
I'll read it and then we cantalk about it next week.
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But send me whatever you'reseeing about criticizing Finn
Vincente.
It was criticized before.
It was before Joe Timmons usedit.
It was called a dog D-Wormer ora horse D-Wormer or things like
that, and they didn't recommendit at all.
They said it was dangerous.
And all a dog D-Wormer or ahorse D-Wormer or things like
that.
They didn't recommend it at all.
They said it was dangerous, andall that for humans.
Well, it turns out it's not.
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Some were dangerous than theother ones and I've had hundreds
of people on all the different,but especially Fenn-Bendisal.
And the reason is becauseFenn-Bendisal has gained such
popularity because of JoeTippins, and other people have
followed in his doing exactlywhat he's doing with great
(01:00:20):
results.
But it's not that the otherswouldn't work right and
researchers were not beingoffered grants to do it either.
However, joe Tippins came inand had already done it himself
and it showed an incredibleeffect.
So that's how it came to be.
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Otherwise, the medical worldfocuses on fembenazole and
albenzol and I'm not quite surewhy, but I mean why they decided
that these are human and thoseare animal, but they're not.
As I pointed out earlier, we,you know, when we're talking
about mammals, we all have verysimilar bodies for chambered
heart to lungs, for limbs,gastrointestinal tract.
(01:01:03):
You know pretty much the same,except there are different
refinements and adaptations todifferent parts of the central
nervous system, which is brainand spinal cord, as well as the
peripheral nervous system.
So all right, you guys.
Green medicine.
All right, you guys.
I'm sure in the chat there'ssomewhere that people are
(01:01:25):
telling us all the answers toour questions.
So, anyway, I apologize for thelate start today and I'll see
you tomorrow at the meeting.
Tomorrow, my morning, yournight, for the meeting, if
you're in that group.
Okay and aloha.
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