Episode 167 - 10.05.25 Stop Saying Cancer and Start Healing: Why Words, Food, and Targeted Antimicrobials Matter - The Dr. Lodi Podcast

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
So good evening.
I wonder if you're all um justjust a quick side side thing
here.
It's a minor thing uh that thewhole world is coming under
surveillance.
It's just a minor minor thingthat shouldn't disturb your more
your evening uh at all.
But yeah, just let's keep thatin mind.
On the side, nothing to think, Imean, nothing to worry about it.
Uh digital ID, it's just a justa conspiracy theory.

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We don't talk about conspiracytheory.
All right, let's talk aboutimportant stuff.
Okay, so anyway, welcomeeveryone, and we're gonna go
through the usual stuff, andthat is to remind you all that
this Sunday Night Live isEastern Standard Time is what 8
p.m.
It's 5 p.m.
in Arizona, and I don't know ifit's daylight savings or

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anything, so I always focus onthat because it has doesn't
change the clock.
So we're gonna say 5 p.m.
Arizona.
So wherever you are in the eastor Europe or wherever, you can
go from there.
I don't Hawaii doesn't changeits time either.
I think only two states, ormaybe there's more.
Anyway, so that's um what weuse, and we are on portrait.

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Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay.

unknown (01:12):
God, there we go.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
So um, and anyway, so it's every Sunday night, and
the the format here is where youever people have sent in
questions, right?
And so we're gonna deal with asmany as we can, and then um, but
the problem with this format isand and we you know we've been
doing it for years now, so I wedon't want to stop, but it's
that it doesn't allowinteraction, it doesn't allow me

(01:35):
to clarify what it is you'reasking, and you know, so I can
really help you because I knowwhat you're probably asking is
may not even be reflected in theway you asked it.
And so, you know, and we so I Iusually if we were together, I
would be asking some otherquestions to kind of direct both
you and me into figuring outwhat it is that really needs to
be answered.

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So, anyway, we don't have thatability to interact.
So we have these groups thatserve many purposes, and that's
one of them.
And that is we have our weeklyZoom meetings where we interact,
and the questions arespontaneous, live on the in the
moment, and uh and and we canand uh I can dig deeper and we
can have a we can have adiscussion.

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So it's very good.
And we do this um a few times aweek, depending on the group
you're in.
And I'm just adjusting thisissue.
Okay, so all right, and um, sothe health and healing group,
uh, where we do we talk about uhthings related to health and
healing, keeping in mind thatthe word heal is the foundation

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of the word health.
And uh so health is the abilityto continually heal every
picosecond, nanosecond.
And in that group we meet everyother week, but you also have
access to uh our kinesiologist,our kinesiologist who's uh
muscle-centric um and looks atuh movement and muscles and very

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um bright guy that really knowswhat what what what he's doing
with uh physiology andkinesiology and its effect on
health.
I mean, you know, just walkingup the stairs for 70 seconds
will increase your naturalkiller cells sixfold.
That's a good thing to know.
Really good thing to know.
Um anyway, so um, and then youhave uh uh uh uh access to

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Vanessa, who is uh anutritionist, health coach, yoga
instructor, meditation coach,biologist.
Uh she's got uh she's beenliving this way for many years,
and so she teaches a whole lotof stuff.
So you have her one week andthen you have Darren the next
week, the kinesiologist.
And then every other week youhave Donna, who's been eating

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uncooked plant food for 37years, and so she's got a quite
a few things to say about thatand to teach us all.
Um, so all that's reallyimportant.
And then if you're in the CFCgroup, which is what some people
refer to as cancer, um,mistakenly, um refer to it, it's
really chronically fermentedcells, CFC's chronically
fermenting cells.
Um you have access to Kathy.

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And Kathy is a psychotherapistwho is um helps um people with
who've been cursed with the worddiagnosis, who've been cursed,
um to look at the whole thingand put put up put aside all the
intellect and all that, andlet's just talk about how we

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feel, how this is affecting us,and um how can we how can we um
improve that?
Because if we can the way youfeel is everything.
It's everything.
If you feel horrible, thateverything's horrible.
If you feel fantastic,everything's fantastic.
So knowing how we feel andworking with it, respecting it,

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um, uh and developingmethodologies for keeping
ourselves from uh diving toodeep and falling too deep into
holes um is uh very important.
In fact, it may be the mostimportant attitude.
So in fact, it it just turns outthat it really is.
It really is.
So dealing with our emotions, umunderstanding them, putting them

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in perspective, um all that isvery important.
And so that's all you also haveaccess to that if you're joining
the CFC group.
And so the CFC group would meetuh twice a week with with with
me and soon, plus all thoseother people we discussed, uh as
well as there's a lot ofmaterial, a lot of things to
read, a lot of uh programs,protocols, and then the parasite

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group, which is uh like thehealth and healing every other
week, except the parasite groupalso has membership in the
health and healing group.
So the parasite actually gets touh meet every Monday.
Anyway, it's worth it, it'sworth it, and um, and plus
everybody on these groups areall geniuses, it's crazy.
Everybody's knows their stuff,everybody.

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So it's not just me, the otheruh professionals in the area of
uh Kathy and Darren and Vanessaand Donna, but uh there's also
all these other people amazingin the groups.
You gotta do it.
So now the part four of thehuman diet.
Remember, you may or not firstpart was nature's design, the

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second part was called CookedFood is poison.
The third part will be what waswhat does the research say?
And we went over that uh indetail.
What does the research say?
It's really nice you got anopinion, but what does the
research say?
And then uh episode fourexposing the myths, what
oxalates are bad, don't eatspinach, wrong.
Oh, all the nonsense, you know,seed oils are terrible, are
they?
Anyway, let's let's get intothat.

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So that'll be October 23rd, 8p.m.
Eastern.
Okay.
October 23rd, 8 p.m.
Eastern.
Till we get into some questions.
Okay, all right.
So this is from Ray.
And Ray's asking, do you theword what is missing there?
What do you recommend for highlevels of PSA prostate CFC
screening advice on thedeworming protocol three times a

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day for three weeks?
If not, what do you suggest andhow long should deworming be
after four weeks?
Should it be repeated?
Okay, Ray.

unknown (07:17):
Turn off this.

SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
Ray.
Let's let Ray, first of all, wegotta help you linguistically
here because you're you hurtyourself.
You are hurting yourself, okay?
You you stop if you if you ifyou want to really do well and
and and and and I know you do, Iknow you want to get back to
health, then stop using the asan astrological sign to refer to

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whatever's going on with yourprostate.
Okay, you don't have cancer,Leo, Gemini, Sagittarius,
Capricorn in your prostate, Ipromise you.
Okay, what you might have ischronically fermenting cells.
That's what you might have.
Okay, you don't have this otherthing.
Don't use that word because thatword's deadly.
That word tells you you're gonnadie.
Do you want to keep tellingyourself you're gonna die?

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Do you want other people to say,hey, uh, how's your your death
march?
Do you want people to say thatto you?
Stop using the word.
The word is deaf.
Stop using the word.
Okay, words are important.
I love you has a littledifferent impact than I hate
you.
All right, these words areimportant, all right.
So stop using that word.

(08:23):
I don't know why you all stilluse this word.
Well, why?
I mean, we've been talking aboutthis for how long?
Why do you keep going up in thismorning and say, I'm gonna die?
Don't say it.
Don't say I'm gonna live, and Iam living, and I'm gonna
continue, and I'm gonna find away to live even better.
That's what our focus should beon.
So stop using that word, allright?
Um and high levels of PSA.

(08:45):
Um, again, so you're so it'swith Rocky, Rocky is his gang,
you know, Rockefeller uh and hisgang.
Um, have you focused on thisnumber and and and astrology,
this number of your prostate andastrology?
They've got you completely offtrack because where you need to
be focused is uh on that road toparadise called health.

(09:06):
That's where you're going.
That's where we're all going.
Okay, so anyway, your PSA.
So high PSA, low PSA, and peopletreat PSAs, people treat CA
125s, if people treat uhCA15-3s, people treat CEAs, and
the word treat again is sayingyou're gonna fix something
that's broken.
Okay, so let's re throw all thisaway and say what's going on.

(09:29):
Okay, so in your situation,you've got a prostate, your
gland is prop as uh some of thecells have become chronically
fermenting because they had to.
They they were they lost theirum ability to use oxygen, right?
And they how that happenedbecause of accumulated
toxicities.
That's it.
It's not another reason, not notanother reason.
No, not another reason.

(09:50):
No, not another reason.
Did I say that already?
Yeah, yeah.
There's not another reason.
Okay, so um is uh reflective ofwhat's going on, is a PSA can go
up with prosthetic uh specificantigen, but there are other uh
other things that change aswell.
But more than that, we look atother markers like uh l LDH, uh,
ferritin iron ratio, uh,thymodine kinase, your uh uh

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neutrophil to lymphocyte uhratio.
There's a lot of things to lookat.
You don't just look at one thingand get stuck on it.
Now, what does that have to dowith the deworming?
And and and and please let's noteven that's what they they
kinest gangs want you to usewords like that deworming
protocol.
They don't have a dewormingprotocol.

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Okay, what we have is these aremedications, ivermectin
fenbendazole, uh mebendazole oruh albazole, any of the
benzamidazols, uh niclosomide,prosequantal, these are
antihelminthics, right?
Uh which are worms, and uh thenthere's the nitazoxinide, uh
which is linia, andmetronidazole and tinnidazole,
which are antiprotozoles, andthen there are the antifungals

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like uh fluconazole,etriconazole.
So those are the differentmedications that are used to
help someone who's got a youknow a real disruption in their
uh in the in the in theirmicrobiology, and I'll I'll
clarify that in a second.
So um let's not call itdewarming.
So what it as it but here's whatit turns out as we've learned,

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and and I think all this came tolight with Joe Tippins, right,
when he was uh told to go homeand get his affairs in order is
a ridiculous thing to tellsomeone.
And uh if someone tells you thatyou should either you have
someone else punch them.
I'm not advocating violence, no,okay.
I'm just saying if somebodytalks to you that way, just walk
out.
Don't you be with people thatare gonna talk that way.

(11:41):
Okay, get your affairs in order.
Well, that's what you're doing.
That's aren't we all doing thatwith our lives?
Aren't we trying to get ouraffairs in order all the time?
I'm getting my affairs in order.
It's it's a ridiculous phrase.
Don't use their words, don't usetheir idioms, don't use their
acronyms, don't use them becausethen you are stuck in their
world.
They already, it's their videogame, they made the video game.

(12:02):
All right, you don't want to begood at their video game, you
want to be like me.
I don't even know what is thewhat how do I what is as it
turns out, these parasites,worms, and protozo are involved
in um can be considered part ofthe toxic profile that causes
cells not to be able to useoxygen and have to convert to uh

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a fermentative metabolism andbecome chronically fermenting
cells, aka um um SagittariusCapricorn.
So they can be involved in that,right?
And therefore, by eliminatingthem or reducing their numbers
significantly, the whole processcan be um can be stopped.
And that's what we saw with JoeTippin.

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So he was told to go home, andwhen he went home, he um took
some febazole, and um that was2018, right?
He's still around, he's doingfine.
So uh, you know, he had what 92tumors.
So as it turns out, it not onlyeliminates the and the protozoa,
these medications, but they alsoturn off the specific pathways

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that are need to be active inorder for CFCs to function.
They're part of the pathwaysout, it's part of the uh
mechanisms by which theyfunction that also directly
affects them.
So I don't consider it adewormer or a de-protozoole.
I uh it has many different uhactions, right, with with
prostate and and uh we had alady in our prostate group.

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Um, she joined for a littlewhile, then left.
She really just joined to showus the uh a presentation that
she had made with regards to herfather, um, who had um an
enlarged prostate and had somechronically fermenting cells,
and she put him on um the oneswe're talking about, you know,
the the different umanti-helmetics.

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Um and God, I think it was intwo or three weeks worms started
coming out of his penis.
And uh it, I mean, when sheshowed us pictures, and it was
crazy.
I mean, and then in a bathroomwhere you know, where the whole
floor is tiled, and there was abathtub over here in the in the

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bathtub, there was like thislong worms crawling.
It was crazy, just crazy.
But they continued this forabout six months or so, or I
think even beyond that.
And then they had maybe it wasbeyond the year.
I'm gonna see if I can find thatand I'll get back to you.
But I think it was quite awhile, at least at least a year
or more.
Um, but the prostate was back tonormal.

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So, so the question is how longdoes it take?
As long as it takes, and wedon't know.
Every person has a differentburden of of what's going on and
different other toxicities.
Remember, it's not just that.
Also, what how you're gone to abiological dentist?
Have you no, how's your front,upper teeth in your front, lower
teeth in the front?
Huh?
Because those are related to theprostate.
If you had those, have you had a3D cone beam CT to find out if

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that's if they've got anyproblems in there?
You should, or anywhere in yourmouth.
Okay, that has to be taken careof.
Have you done a cleanse?
Have you done colonhydrotherapy?
Are you taking you're makingsure you're maxing out on the
the amount of as scorbate, alsoknown as vitamin C in your body
because it's an essentialnutrient to life?
And you're how about vitamin D?

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And so vitamin D, A, there's alot of things, melatonin, going
to sleep, bro.
There's a lot of things youcould be doing, okay?
And I don't want you to get hungup on the um on these
medications for that areanti-helmethics and
anti-crotozoles, okay.
They're they're and we should dothem, absolutely, but that's not
it.
That you can't just focus onthat.

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So I hope, Ray, that you'veyou've the whole picture.
And what would be really good ifyou could join the um CFC group,
chronically fermenting cellgroup, go to drlood.com,
drlodi.com, drlodi.com, get onthere, and you can find right
away.
It'll give you an opportunity toset up for those groups.
You sign up for that, you'll geta basic program which will
include everything that we'retalking about, not including the

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warm, the the dewormingprotocol.
But you're not doing it todeworm necessarily, you're doing
it for multiple reasons.
So um, but join that and thenand then and then we'll be
meeting twice a week.
And you can ask questions, wecan talk directly.
But you'll get all this materialand what what do specifically,
how do how do what do I where doI start?
What do I do?
Okay, and then you've got ahundred like friends right right

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away.
You have a hundred friends whodon't want anything from you but
your health.
They don't want to take yourhealth, they want you to keep
it.
Okay, let's go to the nextperson.
This is CP, and she's uh hello.
I'm a member of the parasitegroup.
Uh, before I start the program,I'd like to know what the
medications do to the friendlygut colon bacteria.
Should I be concerned that theyare dying off as well?

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Should I be taking a probioticwith the program weeks off or
after?
Right.
Actually, uh, you know, verygood question because um what we
should all realize is that well,first of all, we've got just in
our gut, and we're talkingabout, I guess we're talking

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about below the below the forthe stomach and below.
It's hard to know uh if we'retalking about all the esophagus
as well, but we definitelyseparate the oral uh microbiome
from the gut or gastrointestinalmicrobiome or microbiota.
So we separate those and the thebig physical barriers for the um

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uh between the oral and the gutare bile produced in the liver,
okay, because bile is verydestroys organisms, right?
Because by the very nature ofbile is a uh they call them bile
salts because at one end it'slike a salt, it's um water
soluble, what you know,hydrophilic, as they call it.

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And then the other end is lipidsoluble, right?
And that's the definition of asoap, that's what a soap is.
And so what it does is veryeasily disrupts membranes and
destroys things.
So the so that will be kind of abarrier for the for them to go
back and forth between the oralcavity and the gut.
The other one is the pH of thestomach, all right.
So the pH of the stomach in ahealthy stomach is 1.5 or two uh

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around there, and uh, so that'sthat's that's pretty toxic.
Now, lions and other uhcarnivores uh will have pH is
below one, so really nothing'sthey're they're pretty sterile
around there, yeah.
Nothing's gonna make it at thatpH.
So um, anyway, so thesemicroorganisms that are in our

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there, and then we also have anasal microbiome.
We have you know it's in ourears, external ears, rectal,
vaginal, you know.
Um, and there's crosstalkbetween them all, and then on
our skin, they're all over ourskin.
We've got thousands of specieson on our skin and our hair,
just everywhere.
Because why?
Because they're necessary forlife, they're necessary to be
alive.

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Without them, we're not alive.
Okay, so they're not germs,they're the soil in which we are
growing and living.
Okay, so anyway, so they theyget obviously the ones that are
now now we're and every organismis where it is because it's able
to eat, however, they do it,whether it's however they're

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eating, they're eating.
They're taking in something fromthe environment and using it to
produce uh to replace parts andto produce energy.
That's what eating and nutritionis all about.
All right.
So if you've got ants in yourhouse, it's because they found
something to eat.
So rather than kill those ants,which will take you can never
get done, you'll never get done,unless you kill yourself too,

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you know, and all your pets willdie if you really poison them
significantly.
You just take away the food,they're not there anymore.
Very simple, non-military.
This is the same thing here inour gut.
Whatever different ratios ofdifferent populations of
microorganisms that are in ourgut are there because of uh this

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ratio of different populationsshows you the the different
degrees to which they like thefood we're feeding them, and
what food are we feeding them?
The same food that we're feedingourselves.
So, whatever you're eating,you're going to uh be feeding to
your microorganisms.
And if they can if they cansurvive on it, they'll stay, if
they won't.
Right?
So that's how you wind up withyour your biosis, your your

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microbiota.
So um, so therefore, everythingwe put in our mouth, so even if
we drink something uh or eatsomething that's um that's
toxic, it's gonna affect them.
And all medications are toxic.
All medications to get theirapproval by the Fraud and Death
Association have to have what'scalled an LD50, which is the

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lethal dose that was 50% of theum people taking it will die.
It's called the LD50.
You have to know what the LD50is of a drug.
So all medications are harmful,toxic to some degree, so they're
going to affect the gutmicrobiome.
We have to understand thatcoffee will affect it, apples
will affect it, cheese willaffect it, everything we put in

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our mouth will affect it.
So that's just a given, okay?
But so uh, so but but you youand your question here is
specifically for, and I'm sure alot of you have the same
question.
So if I'm taking the ibermectin,I'm taking the fen benzool or
midazolone, I'm taking theglycosomide, what's it doing to
my gut microbiome?
It should I be taking uhprobiotics?
And so the answer is whateveryou put in there, whatever drug

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or substance you put in there,the answer is yes, you should be
taking act, take probioticsbecause whatever we're living
in, whatever we're doing withour lives, we're getting exposed
in one way or another through totoxins.
Even things that get into our onour skin, just like a topical
medication, will go through theskin and get picked up by plasma
proteins and carried around.

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Uh, may or may not get into thegut, but you know, but so but
everything is is is has access,is has one way or another, it
can get can gain access.
So for that reason, we want tobe taking probiotics and
prebiotics, yeah, uhcontinually, right?
But also, and then the realprebiotic is the way you eat.
And then if you're eating food,that's whatever food you eat,
you gotta figure out what thefood you're eating, what group

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of microorganisms will that uhentice to hang out.
But so, anyways, but but theivermectin ivermectin is it's
from a group of they callavramectins.
Um, and it was basically uh youknow discovered in 1970, right?
In the soil, and it comes froman organism called Streptomyces
abermittee or something.

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Which abermectin.
And uh so in 1970 it isdiscovered, 1981 they introduced
it to the veterinary world, anduh it was amazing the the
effects.
Um, I mean, the the theparasites that that it
eliminated, right?
So when it first was introduceduh medicament into human

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medicine, um it was foronchorysis, which is what's the
common name for it?
Um river blindness, yeah.
It's called river blindnessbecause there's a parasite in
the river that gets into thebody, and um that's what
happens.
So about 250,300 million peopleworldwide are uh afflicted with

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this onkopsoriasis and aretaking iramectin for years,
children, adults, and olderpeople.
So, in terms of safety, it's gota good good clinical trial
there.
Um, however, it does cause umproblem with the microbiota.
Now, it in of in and of itselfdoes not affect humans or you

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know, other mammals because itonly affects the uh uh
invertebrates, single-cellorganism, because it the thing
that it blocks we don't have.
You know, it blocks theglutamate chloride-gated
channels, which we don't have,so it doesn't affect us.
But to the little guys there, itit it's uh it's uh fatal.

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All right, and uh, but I meanit's it's well tolerated.
They've tested it with givingpeople up to 10 times higher
than the FDA um recommends as adosage, which is 0.2 milligrams
per kilo, right?
So if you figure that out, youfigure out how many kilos are
0.2 milligrams, and they went 10times above that, and it still
wasn't dangerous to the person,to people, right?

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Okay, that's good.
Uh and and so I've rememberedyou take it within five hours,
it's at its peak, it gets out ofthe body in about 20, 24 hours.
Um, these are calledpharmacokharmacokinetics.
Um and so other than it'seliminated in the feces, and
there's it's eliminated in thefeces, which is why we know that

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it requires the liver todetoxify.
So when the liver detoxifiessomething, it goes into the
feces.
Otherwise, it'll be managed bythe kidneys.
The kidneys will eliminate.
But in this case, the you know,and most of the uh
antiparasitics are eliminated byuh the liver and um wind up in
the feces.
All right.
Turns out that it not only so sowith humans, uh not only the uh

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oncosoriasis, the riverblindness, but you know, but
also the uh I I don't know,you've you've you've heard of
the lymphatic phyloriasis, whichis elephantitis, really
devastating condition.
Um that strongloides, which isthose really disgusting
parasites that crawl throughyour ankles and wind up in your
lungs and your gut, it's prettydisgusting.

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And uh, you know, all thesereally horrible ones, ivermectin
is effective against.
Well, even scabies, which youknow, if you've ever seen people
with scabies, it's a horriblecondition.
They itch is you know, whenpeople are uh itching from
scabies, they forget anything,they can't do anything else,
they've got to just sit thereand scratch.

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It's a horrible condition.
Anyway, it takes care of that aswell, the other things.
It also turns out that it workswith bacteria.
So in the methylin resistantstaph, which you know, MSMSSR,
you know, people are all MRSA,methylin resistant step aureus,
right?
Staph aureus, and then there'smethyl sensitive staph aureus.

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So there's two kinds of stephia,it gets both of them, so it's in
that regard, it's good.
Um, it's also been used withmycobat with TB, and it's been
used with um chlamydia, and youknow, to chlamydia is um a
protozoa that men pass to women,and uh so it's also effective
against them as well.
So it's got a far reach, butalso, as you might have guessed,

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it's also gonna change yourrelative proportions of the
populations of microorganismsthat you have, and it will do
that, and so um, yes, so mightit will have an effect on that,
all right?
So you've got to be aware ofthat, and you are um, and so you
want to take probiotics orprebiotics, yes.

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Um, now the uh you know, otherthing we want to let you know
that iromectin also eliminatesCFC stem cells, right?
So that it can spread.
This stops that.
It also turns off many othermechanisms, um, CFCs, I mean a
lot of different mechanisms bywhich so it eliminates CFCs and

(27:10):
eliminates CFC stem cells inaddition to all that.
So it's not like something youwant to avoid because of the
effect on my microbiota.
No, I want to make sure that Ican maintain a healthy
microbiota by eating righteating human food.
And if you don't know what thatis, watch these the human diet
webinars coming.

(27:30):
Uh the fourth one.
Um, and go back and watch the uhfirst three parts.
They've been recorded.
All right, so um, but you know,in veterinary medicine, they
give it uh they can give it Ithey can give ibermectin IV or
subcutaneously.
Um and they do this with allsorts of animals, they do it
with chichillas, they do it withhorses, they do it with lions,
they you know, so but uh and I'myou know I don't even know if

(27:53):
there's a place that we can getIV for humans, but anyway,
you're not gonna consider givingyourself IV ivermectin, you're
gonna take it orally, and so ifyou're taking it orally, you
want to make sure you're gettingprobiotics.
Now, the other the otherantihelmetics, like the
benzamidazols, mobendazole andfembendazole, don't seem to have
an effect on the gut, and asignificant effect on the gut.
They don't, right?

(28:15):
Um, and uh the uh excuse me, infact, in fact, um, in certain
animals, the benzamidazols areused to treat uh giardiaces and
cryptosporodias sporosporodiasis because it they're
micro, I mean these areprotozoa, and these protozoa are
single-celled organisms, andthey cause all kinds of

(28:38):
problems.
You all know about giardia anduh diarrhea, and the you know,
cryptosporodiosis is nasty aswell.
So, but but animals get them aswell, and they find that it
works with them, all right.
Um, it works that so it doesn'tseem to affect the overall

(28:59):
relative proportions, so theboth fed bentosol and
nebendazol, okay?
It's pretty cool.
Um, another one nyclosamide thatwe use a lot of is uh uh again
has no effect on the microbiota,which is great.
It's even used to treat C.
defacil.
So anyone who's been aroundhospitals gonna know what C.

(29:21):
defacil is, it's a bacteria thatarises in an environment where
someone's been on antibiotics,and the antibiotics have
eliminated a lot of the healthygut bacteria.
And when that happens, this C.
deficil, Clostridia deficil, orthe C diff, it's called in the

(29:45):
hospitals.
They don't want to say the fullword because you don't say the
if you if you're if you're ifyou're a if you're a nurse or a
doctor or even an x ray taker oranybody, you're gonna call it C
diff, right?
Because you're cool.
So C diff, um Doesn't ariseanything that can be used, you
can treat it with uhniclosamite, so that's pretty

(30:05):
cool, right?
So you got the benzamidazols,the niclosamite, and also it
turns out Project does not causeany major shifts.
That's pretty cool.
I like that, right?
And you know, how how would wehow would we define dysbiosis?
Well, I think a way of lookingat it is it's when the gut

(30:27):
microbiota something produces animbalance in the populations of
the microorganisms that coexistwithin the GI tract.
Okay, and this can be humans andanimals, which directly affects
their immunophysiology, theirmetabolic and structural and
neurological function.
Well, that's pretty farreaching.
If we're talking aboutimmunologic,
immunophysiological, yourimmunology, your immune system,

(30:50):
your metabolic, which ismetabolizing, you know, glucose
and amino acids and all thatsort of thing, structural in
building cells and neurological,and we're talking about
everything.
That's what's affected when youaffect the gut microbiome.
So is it important to protectthem?
Yes.
And in fact, if you had acompletely healthy,
appropriately proportioned gutmicrobiome, you would be in

(31:13):
healthy.
So, anyway, so that's that withthe them.
So, yeah, but I eat healthy,eat, eat, eat the way we always
discuss, right?
Eat in a four to six hourwindow, stop eating four to five
hours before sleep, uh, eat onlyuh human food.
You got it.
Now you're also gonna be takingcare of your gut microbiome
completely.

(31:34):
Now, in addition, you'll taketake uh my uh probiotics and
prebiotics if you're on certainmedications.

unknown (31:40):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (31:41):
Next question is Virginia, detox.
Will this help with chronicsinusitis?
So done with antibiotics.
Well, great Virginia, yeah.
I mean, good, good, because theantibiotics aren't gonna work.
Uh, but if you've got a chronicsinusitis, I would say uh, you
know, detox and cleanse are veryimportant, but I would get over
to a biological dentist rightaway, certified by the IAOMT,

(32:03):
certified, not just a member.
And uh, because the sinuses areright there, sitting on top of
our the roots of our upperteeth, right?
So uh wait, let me get rid ofthis here.
I don't like this one here.
Wait, oh there we are.

(32:23):
All right, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
So here we are.
We don't need this one either.
Let me get rid of that.
Cool.

unknown (32:30):
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (32:32):
So yeah, Virginia.
So it's not even often, I wouldhave to say it's I don't know, I
don't know how close it isbetween 99 and 100, but your
oral health in your sinuses.
So you you've got you've got todo that.
And that'll really, really,really help.
And it's surprising.
Uh, but make sure I A O M T umit's a certifying agency uh that

(32:55):
looks at, you know, umInternational Alliance of or
International Association ofMedical Toxicology.
Right?
And you know, basically um theytrain dentists and get them
certified in using safetechniques, using only
biocompatible materials, and uh,you know, not doing procedures

(33:17):
that will cause problems, suchas root canals, etc.
Uh, and if you have them, how tohow to remove them safely and
and effectively and all that.
So it's and that's and and therelationship between the sinuses
is right there, just rightthere.
The sinuses are just cavities inthe uh skull, um, and um are
like caves in the cell, in thein the skull, and that and the

(33:39):
roots of the teeth come right upnear there.
So if the any anything, there'sa lot of crosstalk communication
um going on there, all right.
So you gotta do that, and thenof course the cleansing is
always if you do a good thoroughcleanse, which you have to do
now, and then you need toreestablish your microbiome

(34:00):
because if you've been onantibiotics, so not only is your
gut microbiome destroyed, butalso your oral microbiome and
your nasal microbiome.
And so you're gonna have areally, you know, different
microorganisms where you in inplaces you don't want them, and
the ones that you do want willnot will not be in sufficient
numbers, right?
So you wind up with all thisdysbiosis, and it's it's gonna

(34:23):
have a tremendous effect on you.
So uh yeah, you're on theabsolute right track, and I'm
glad you're done withantibiotics because you've got
to realize after a while, thesehave to they're not working,
they just don't work.
And what's the word telling?
It's very telling to note thatwhen we look over 60, 70 years,

(34:44):
the past 60, 70 years, at themortality rates from
cardiovascular conditions, youknow, heart attacks, etc., uh,
they've come down significantly.
And the same withcerebrovascular events, the two
that haven't changed in 60years, 70 years.
And this is CDC data, this isnot uh loady data, this is CDC

(35:07):
data, and uh and that isinfectious conditions and number
two CFCs mortality has notchanged.
So not me, they are telling you.
And if we had if we were all onZoom right now, I could share
the screen and I could show youthe data from them.
So the point is that the reasonthat these are not the reason

(35:29):
these two areas have not changedis because the efforts to
resolve these issues are like Isaid, you have ants in your
house, you you can spray allkinds of stuff, but if you don't
take away the food, they'regonna find a way.
And if not them, some other guysthat you don't like.
Anyway, um, so that's why.

(35:49):
So that's so we're uh we'reshooting at the ants, and we've
got hand grenades and we've goteven uh uh hydrogen bombs to get
rid of these ants, but they keepshowing up.
All right, anyway, all right, sohere we are.
Um uh now we're going for Jim.
Jim again, Jim is just likewhat's his name?
Ray, you guys like this word.
Come on, Jim and Ray.

(36:10):
You guys have to realize thatyou I in fact, anyway, do me a
favor and realize that uh soJim, so realize something.
So prostate CFCs.
Um now they're not, it's it'snot, it's not uh, it's not a uh
what do you call it?
It's not an astrological sign.

(36:30):
I'm not gonna go through thatagain because I hope you were
listening earlier.
All right, now so what you'resaying is since 2022, you've had
26 rounds of radiation, sixrounds of chemo, another five
rounds of radiation to lymphnodes.
I've also been on Lupron foryears.
What a good boy you are, Jim.
You just did everything theysaid.

(36:51):
I'm so proud of you.
And your mommy's proud of youtoo.
You did anything they said.
They didn't tell you to walk offa cliff yet because you're still
talking.
But if that's hopefullyhopefully they don't.
So when I mentioned to myradiologist I was considering
iron benzol, he got arrogant andeven wrote in my portal that
I've been advised against tryingiromagnetophane benzo, and was

(37:12):
advised it could make mattersworse and even cause death.
I'd like to hear your views.
Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim,Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim.
You've been on Lupron for years,which tells me that the your
situation has not been resolvedover the years.
In spite of the fact that youhad 26 rounds of radiation, six
rounds of game.

(37:33):
Listen, you are to becongratulated 100% because
you're still alive.
You made it after they shot.
You you just went through beyondbasic training.
This is advanced training.
You went through Navy SEAL stuffbeyond that.
And they shot everything theycould at you, and you're still
walking around asking themquestions.
They don't like that.
And how dare you ask a questionabout something they don't know?

(37:55):
The reason he got whatever hegot is not because he knows.
And you don't ask him.
You can't ask a you cannot ask aToyota salesman about
Mercedes-Benz.
Or you can, but you're not gonnaget an answer, uh, a real
answer, are you?
All right, now, so this guy,Jim, who you should never see

(38:18):
again.
First of all, you you you're onLupron.
You've got to join the uh theCFC group.
First of all, Lupron knocks outyour hypothalamic uh pituitary
test testes axis so that you'renot producing any testosterone,
because their their premise isthat testosterone causes CFCs.

(38:40):
And Jim, if that were true, Jim,I'm gonna just assume you're
over 30, right?
So anyway, so if that were true,then every 25, 30-year-old guy
at Gold's gym with an erectionall day long should have
prostate CFCs.
He doesn't, it's the guy that istaken Viagra at the age of 65.

(39:01):
So, right there, right there,says, What is wrong with this
story?
But of course, that's for peoplewho think, and we want to
remember they don't want us tothink, but we're all capable of
it, and let's not give it up,all right.
So that's like saying soy isreally dangerous for women with
breast CFCs.

(39:21):
Well, how come in Japan, beforewe introduced McDonald's, they
didn't have breast CFCs?
And how come even now they havemuch less?
And how come uh and they'reeating soy all day long and they
have less and they live 10 yearslonger than us?

SPEAKER_00 (39:37):
I don't know, but you know, they they told me
that.
Why would they say that if it'snot true?

SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
Well, we yeah, that's what I run into this
every day.
Why would they say it if it'snot true?
I don't know.
Um why would there be a greathoax of 2020 if it's not true?
Hopefully, those of us involvedright now at this moment here in
this group already know thatthey they get their mouths

(40:03):
washed out with soap if theytell the truth.
Yeah, they're not allowed to.
But little time, the littlekids, their parents, you know,
you said the truth.
They don't, it's not allowed inthose households.
What households?
The House of Windsor,Rothschild, Rockefeller.
Yeah, there's anyway, they're uheven higher.
I know the Rothschilds andRockefellers maybe are working
for them.
They are uh by the way, don'tget the Monopoly game because

(40:25):
they already won.
They won the game of Monopoly,it's over.
They are they they just left usBaltic and uh Mediterranean,
they've got all the rest.
Anyway, so let's talk about it,Jim, because I know you want to
know the answer.
Okay, what's the answer?
Well, to your uninformed, and heshould have his tongue cut off.
When I say why would you saysuch a thing?
Because he what he's saying topeople is causing them, they're

(40:48):
deaf.
He's committing acts of sorceryand he's lying.
Why do we know that?
Because we know it's well proventhat ivermectin has well-known,
well-established anti-CFCproperties.
Okay, it inhibits the WNT TCFpathways, which are and the and
the hippo pathways, which arevery, very important uh with
CFCs, especially prostate CFCs,right?

(41:11):
Okay, and as it turns out, umit's part of the homeostatic
process, it helps keep the wholeprostate healthy, right?
Uh the ivermectin.
Okay.
And then there was a there was astubble study, tell your guy,
tell your guy to read it to stopwatching Netflix and uh playing

(41:33):
golf or whatever else.
He does in his leisure, andstart reading the journals and
find out that uh ask him aboutthe study published in September
of 20 of 2022, all right, thatlooked about ivermectin at
targeting uh prostate CFCs.
And what did it find?
What was the finding in thisstudy that was published?
Ivermectin increasedintracellular double-stranded

(41:56):
DNA breaks and finally triggeredcell death.
So the authors of this studyconcluded that the anti-cancer
effects of ivermectin andprostate cancer may be a new
therapeutic approach forprostate.
I won't use that word again, butyeah, CFCs.
Published data, right?
And then you've heard of theBrit British Journal of CFCs,

(42:16):
right?
Cancer, British Journal ofCancers, right?
This is published in uh 20 um,what was it, 2019.
All right, repurposing screenidentifies mebendazole as a
clinical candidate to synergizewith doxatasol, dosatasol, which
is taxotyr, um, for prostateCFCs.
So, in fact, it's become a newbig deal.
Dosataxil, which is taxotyr, andmebendazole target distinct

(42:41):
aspects of the microtubuleblock.
Microtubules are almost like theum non-bony skeleton of cells,
and it's how they move anddivide, but it's how they
divide, because if they don'tdivide, if they can't divide,
they're dead, they're gone.
Can't use that word, they'reflat lined, okay?
But anyway, so and the reasonthis is getting published is
because they're using it with adrug, so the dose of taxol.

(43:04):
Because of that, it's gotfunding, and then we're able to
do the study, but it's becominga big deal in in the world of
oncology.
Memendazole, okay, which is thecousin of fenbendazole, and
they're all basically the same,Jim.
So your oncologist should atleast have his tongue stapled to
his uh bottom that nobody hit methrough a fallow.

SPEAKER_00 (43:26):
Like he can't say anything bad to people anymore.
We don't want him telling peopleall these bad things, you know
what I mean?
Because it's the things he'stelling them is gonna kill them.
That's what I'm talking about.
I mean, Jim.

SPEAKER_01 (43:40):
Anyway, um, but there's many, many, many other
studies.
So, Jim, here's the answer.
Your guy is uninformed, not onlyuninformed, now he's lying to
you.
He's already lied to you becausehe's got you somehow convinced
that you doing all thesepoisonous treatments are gonna
make you healthy.
Jim, that poison will make youhealthy.
So here's the thing.
And by the way, what's his namenow?

(44:01):
Morgenteller.
Abraham Morgenteller.
Remember that name.
Jim, write it down.
Abraham Morgenteller.
He is a preparation age, meaningmedical school and Harvard,
residency and fellowship atHarvard.
No, it was an undergrad,medical, and and then residency
and fellowship at Harvard.
So they call him a preparationage.
But anyway, all through theHarvard thing.

(44:22):
He's now a professor of urology,a tenured professor of urology
at Harvard, still there.
Years ago, he wrote a paperabout the myth of testosterone
and prostate CFCs.
The myth.
So look it up.
You just have to use thosecouple words.
The myth of testosterone, andput in uh uh Morgan Taylor,
M-O-R-G-A-N-T-E-L-L-E-R.

(44:44):
Put that in, Jim, and do thatand find out that this lupron is
absurd and it's lost you a lotof good, fun years of being a
healthy sexual human being.
All right, which is what you youhave you that that's part of
your right of being alive,right?
And and if you had thetestosterone, you'd care.
Right now, you'd probably don'tcare what I'm talking about.
You say, ah, who needs it?
You know, I don't know, that'sfor young people.

(45:06):
Yeah, give you a littletestosterone, and you're gonna
see who needs it.
So, anyway, I'm telling you tohave a wonderful life in living
color instead of black andwhite.
Let's get back in the game.
Get back in the game, okay?
And the game is a fun game.
Living being alive is fun, it'sbeing fun if you're healthy.
So let's get off the road thatyou're on.

(45:27):
Which is you, you, I'm serious.
You get a purple heart, but yougot through these guys.
That's fantastic, James.
So now it's it's your turn.
Go for it.
Shed off these things.
Join our group, CFC group,drlody.com, go there now.
Oh, wait till we're done.
Write it down.
Drloti.com, go there, join up.

(45:49):
All right, Lisa.
I'm I'm asking this question onbehalf on my on my brother's
behalf.
He has what I call episodestwisting pain that radiates
through his spine to the frontof his chest area.
He states that it feels like aheart attack, runs fevers.
He will go to hospital andnothing found.

(46:11):
He suffers, he has been to manydoctors and specialists with no
answers, plus MRIs is there tofind nothing.
Is it possible it is a largeparasite, maybe living in the
muscle?
If he has what what type?
Is there a test to find out?
I feel so bad for him.
Wow, Lisa, me too.
I feel the same thing, same wayyou feel about your your poor

(46:32):
brother there.
Um, see, I mean which we're in agroup right now, the parasite
group, I could ask you.
So, how long twisting pain thatradiates through his spine to
his so you you you're you'reyou're you're you're you you
very you've articulated quitewell the one of the two types of
pains that people are going toexperience.

(46:53):
There are pains that we see withum like uh you know perforated
ulcer, a perforated appendix, uhuh or any any severe thing that
like that that's you usuallyperforations, stuff like that,
where you just don't want tomove, just moving even a little
bit, it gets worse, right?
And so you know, part of whenwe're examining someone like

(47:14):
that, you just need to touchtheir belly.
And if they jump, you've gotjust some answers there.
So that's one kind of pain.
There's other kind of pain thatwe associate with that that's we
see often with uh kidney stones,and as those stones are passing
down, see the stones, you know,they form in the kidney, right?
We have two kidneys over here,they form in the kidney, and
then they they pass down throughthe ureters.
The ureters are what take theurine from the kidney to the

(47:37):
bladder, and there are thesemuscular tubes, and and when the
stones are going down there andit's uh the pain is I've had uh
many women tell me that it's fargreater than uh natural
childbirth with no with no uhyou know medication, no pain

(47:57):
meds.
Uh and this kind of pain iscalled writhing pain.
You gotta you gotta keep movingbecause of our heads.
That's the kind of pain it is.
It's the kind of pain where youcan't get comfortable.
So that's what you're kind ofdescribing here, but it doesn't
sound like kidney because it'syou're saying it goes from his
spine to the front of his chest.
And that could be kidney,because you know it's hard for

(48:18):
us to know to a pinpoint exactlywhere where in our abdomen
something is.
So there's a phenomenon known asreferred pain, too.
So something over here isaffected, but it's causing pain
on this, it's called referredpain.
So it's really hard todetermine.
So, but if he's got MRI, he'shad MRIs, he said.
Uh, and he runs fever.
So these fevers are these feversare associated with this, and

(48:41):
they there they are they does heget a fever and then this
happens, or or does he runfevers at other times?
So there's a lot that I need toclarify here.
Uh, but it sounds like he goesto the hospitals and no one can
figure it out.
That's very, very odd.
Um, and MRIs.
I'm wondering where you live,and now could this be a
parasite?

(49:02):
Well, maybe, but let's not not.
I mean, there okay, it'simportant for us all to
understand that parasites, wehave parasites, they're part of
what's going on, and they'regonna contribute uh in one way
or another to disrupting ourbalance, our physiology.
So, yeah, but are or is aparasite causing this, you know,

(49:28):
most likely uh there's somethingelse going on.
Uh, and and I I just don't know.
There, I just so much you Idon't know how often does this
happen?
Um, how long does it happen?
Um uh, you know, there's so manythings, you know, are there
anything that are make itbetter, any things that make it
worse?
There's so many questions wehave I have to ask, and I don't
know what test of it but that soreally Lisa, um I I uh but if

(49:52):
it's that severe, like you'redescribing.
The other thing that res nowyou're saying it feels like a
heart attack, I'm not sure whatthat you mean, because I would
ask you, or ask you to ask him,or I would ask him, tell me
about a pain in your chest,describe it to me.
And the way he describes it tome would help me understand what
he whether it's hard or not.
So just just so you know, I meanyou can ask him if you want, but

(50:15):
just just so you know, when youask someone who is having a
heart attack, what does it feellike if they have to think and
move?
They always take their hand andthey go, squeeze.
They they just they describe it.
So you you don't put that wordin their mouth, you don't say,
does it feel like it'ssqueezing?
You just say, So what does itfeel like?
And they will always, if it'sheart attack, they'll go like

(50:38):
this.
And so that gives you a big cluethere.
So you ask them, right?
So anyway, and and running fromhis spine and all that, on the
other hand, not being able totell what's going on in our
bodies, we know that there arecertain uh abdominal organs when
affected, can radiate to thefront and to the back.

(51:00):
So, for example, pancreatitis orpancreatic pain, which is the
pancreas, is up here in theabdomen, but it radiates to the
back, can cause some prettysevere pain in the back.
And here you are telling mesecondhand because it's not you,
it's your brother.
So we're getting secondhandabout, and we're not getting
really a good description.

(51:20):
So I really can't go any furtherbecause I don't know what else
to say, except that you reallyneed to find a competent doctor
somewhere or hospital.
Um, and um, I don't know whereyou live, but wherever you were
going, go somewhere else orleave, get out of there.
Go, you gotta find out.
Uh, you can't you can't keepgoing through all this.

(51:41):
Join my join the Bears Eye groupso we can talk.
We'll be talking tomorrow, Ithink.
On theRLodi.com.
Go there so we can talk.
By the way, if anyone has CFCproblems right now, and you're
anywhere near North America, getover to Oasis, okay, in Arizona
and the Oasis of Healing.
Now, here's uh George.
Um, wonderful.

(52:02):
George is the family doc.
Thanks for what you are doing toeducate us, awakened physicians,
so we can assist our patients.
It would be helpful, helpful ifyou can give me the meds you
could recommend for top two tofour protocols you recommend.
Some of my family practicepatients range from having no
extra cash to quite limited.

(52:23):
The foods that are antiparasiticmay be their main option.
When do you recommendover-the-counter medications?
If you are willing, which onesand how often for how long and
when to repeat?
Final question.
How often do labs three quartersthree quarters to the end of the
treatment, give evidence thatit's working?

(52:44):
If so, which ones?
OMP, DMA, stool tests for whichones?

unknown (52:48):
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (52:48):
All right, great.
Uh family doc in Tennessee.
Well, fantastic, Dr.
George.
Um, beautiful.
I'm so glad you uh found me.
It's wonderful when doctors canjoin in on this because uh we
need to spread the word.
We need to have good doctors outthere.
And here you go, you got Dr.
Graves for anybody nearTennessee.
Here you go.
Dr.

(53:08):
George Graves.
With regarding the top two tomore four protocols, just to
keep in mind that one uh that asyou well know, microorganisms
we're not gonna find just one.
You know, when we culture, wefind a uh one of the predominant
species, but it's not the onlyone.
They live in an ecosystem, theyhave a large ecosystem, and they

(53:29):
have uh, and there's you know,in fact, there are and we all we
now know that there are nanosized bacteria and
microorganisms that we can't,that we we we can't, we don't,
we don't even we we don't detectbecause we don't look for them,
because we don't have a we don'teven know how to look for them.
So there's in addition to theones that we can see, which are
archaea, bacteria, protozoa, um,uh funguses, viruses, what they

(53:54):
call viruses.
In addition to that, thenthere's these other stuff that
other guys, these nanoscienceones that Royal Raymond Reif
saw, that um, you know, Dr.
Weber in Munich saw, and youknow, and we know that in 1972,
when they when they finallydiscovered the calcium-producing
um microorganisms CPNs, CPMs,were at the root, at the nitus

(54:17):
of all uh atheroscleroticplaques, right?
So we knew so then you know Imean the headlines I think of
Time magazine is that is heartdisease an infectious disease,
you know.
But so there's an entireecosystem of organisms to keep
in mind.
And one may be predominating,but there are other ones.
So for that reason, we useanti-helmithics and uh

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antiprotozools and antifungals.
Basically, irimectin, unlessthere's a particular problem
with it, uh I would recommend itfor every protocol, just because
it's so far-reaching.
And of course, you're gonna takethe probiotics and prebiotics
and eat healthy.
That it's a given.
You would do that even if it hadno effect.
So then the next is abenzamidazole, albendazole,

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fenbendazole, mebendazole.
The other ones, the otherbenzamidazols aren't really
used, so any one of them.
I mean, because they're all thesame.
And and with regards to, well,this one, that one does this,
you know.
For example, Mebendazole isknown to um have an effect at uh
eliminating CFC stem cells.

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How do we know that?
Because we tested for that, butwe didn't test the other ones
for that, so just like there arewell, there are no human studies
with fembendazole, right?
Yeah, because you didn't makeany human studies.
So there are no human studies,right?
Okay, so now what but we foundit with animals, and then here's
the thing people get upset.
We're not animals, we're humans.

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What the heck is a human?
A plant, a mineral, no, notplants, minerals, uh remember
that game, everybody, right?
No, not uh scissors, rock,paper, whatever that is.
Not that game.
Animal, mineral, vegetable,right?
You're driving in the car for along way, and you gotta
everybody thinks, you know,everybody takes a turn thinking
of something.
Anyway, that wasn't the basicfamily.

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So we're not in the plant, we'renot in the mineral, so I'm gonna
just guess that we're probablyin the animal group.
What does it mean to be ananimal?
It means to be a biological, anintact biological organism that
moves around.
Anime, anima, uh, anima, anima.
Anima is not just uh Japanesecartoons, it's the root of you
know moving around.
Anima, soul is that in Latin.

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Yeah, so anyway, anyway, so itturns out that fenbendazole
seems to work with animals andhumans who are not animals.
We're not animals, we're notplants.
What are we?
We're aliens, that's it.
But are aliens animals?
They move around.
So aliens are animals too.
Wow.
Maybe some we don't know.
There might be some aliens thatare across between plants and

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animals.
Let's try to imagine that.
Let's also try to imagine if theearth is flat, because all these
things that really waste ourtime.
Let's waste our time.
One of the basics is ivermectinthree times a day, benazol or
medbenazole three times a day,niclosamine three times a day.
And you can add brasicoantyl ifyou want, or you can get one or
either niclosamine orbrasicoantyl.

(57:07):
There's different ways oflooking at it, there's different
ways of doing that.
We'd have to have a a more of auh discussion at a different
level than we I would talk rightnow.
But uh, and then we add in umand certain antiprotozools of
nitazoxylate.
I like it's the best, I thinkit's the most broad uh of them
all.
And it uh tinnidazole isimportant too.

(57:27):
So um, and you come three weekson, one week off, three weeks
on, one week off, three weekson, one week off, three weeks
on, one week off.
And during the one week off, andalso during the whole thing,
you're gonna be doing liversupport with ALA, uh silly marin
or silly binum, milk thistle anduh IC, thiamine.
Anyway, Dr.
George, we should probably goover that.

(57:48):
Let's go to the next one.
Now, this is uh Teresa, uhsister's Mike.
I've been emailing you aboutMike's blood.
He ended him the ER, they gavehim an iron infusion.
He was at 5% saturation andblood transfusion, hemoglobin
was 7.1.
He doesn't have a scan set upuntil 9th of October.

(58:08):
Is that soon enough to getresults or should we bump this
up?
What's today?
Six, huh?
I know if we call them andsomething is wrong, first thing
they request will be chemo andimmunotherapy.
He's having right upper quadrantpain, but like you said, both
his liver and kidney numbers arenormal.
Please advise, talk more aboutyour ACE, your oasis of healing.

(58:30):
We may consider this if if it'sa better option than the
high-dose regimen, they aregoing to want to put him on.
All right, well, Teresa, yes.
I don't know where you are inthe U.S., but an oasis of
healing in Arizona.
I mean, if you get there, I'mI'll be involved in the whole
program.
Um, and um, and yeah, and andyou know, sadly, we're the only

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place that does it all.
I don't understand it because Icertainly don't keep it a
secret.
You need to be working withmind, body, and soul and spirit.
You need to be working with it.
You can't ignore any of them.
And then the body, everything,everything.
That's from you know, eating andnot eating, cleaning the body
out and all that, and theninterventions, intravenous
interventions.
Um, and they're you know, allthe standard ones that are known

(59:18):
of integrative oncology, whichare you know, um, uh, you know,
vitamin C, ozone, curcumin, allthese.
And if we need chemotherapy, weuse insulin potentiated low-dose
chemo, which is I think whatyou're referring to there.
And uh that's really goodbecause with insulin-potentiated
low-dose chemotherapy, youtarget the CFCs and not the
whole body, which is kind of asmart thing to do.

(59:40):
If you're gonna poison umsomebody, make sure you're
hitting the target and not usinga shotgun where you get
everything.
Yeah, I mean, it's sadly, it'sone of the only options.
I just don't know of a placethat does it all, including the
diet.
Don't do it all for why?
Why?
Because everybody's interestedin interest.

(01:00:00):
What's your money making?
You don't make a lot of money onfood teaching, you don't make a
lot of money teaching people howto live healthy.
So anyway, call there.
Uh, and uh, or actually, if youwant, give me send me an email
and I'll look uh and uh if youwant to, I'll have someone from
there get in touch with you.

(01:00:21):
All right, so send it rightaway, and then I'll look right
after this Zoom.
Uh right after this uh what arewe doing?
Live stream, yeah.
All right, is uh uh, but anyway,so just for everybody's
database, there's a bleed goingon here, esophageal bleed, uh
tumor oozing.
Uh and of course, what happenswhen you lose blood?
You lose iron and you becomeiron deficient.

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So that's what's happening.
So hemoglobin was 7.1.
A man should be around 14.
So that's like having half ofyour blood gone in terms of its
oxygen delivering capacity.
So he needed the transfusion.
He was at the point where heneeded transfusion.
We try to avoid that transfusionis by using things like
erythropoietin and um stuff likethat, and they gave an iron
infusion.

(01:01:03):
And unfortunately, if you giveiron infusions to someone who
with CFCs, the CFCs grab most ofit, but there's a way of of of
diverting that, and that's bygiving an IV um of
erythropoietin prior to the ironinfusion, so that the bone
marrow will be grabbing this uhiron and um a lot greater,

(01:01:24):
greater, far greater amounts ofiron uh than normally, which
means that the CFCs will getless and the bone marrow will
get more.
And the bone marrow is where youmake the red blood cells, so
that's necessary.
So he's having right upperquadrupane, that's liver, the
right back would be kidney.
That's liver, stomach,gallbladder, um, duodenum, upper

(01:01:45):
and um small intestines, upperpart of the small intestine.
So yeah, he needs to beevaluated.
So really let me know, you'reready to go, and I'll have
someone.
This is Petra.
Hi, Dr.
Lodi.
How effective do you considerashwagandha to be for supporting
underactive thyroid function?
We often think of ashwagandha asuh supportive of the adrenal

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glands, right?
And that's because it's able toactually lower cortisol levels.
And people, people with uh thatare in sympathetic overdrive,
people that are stressed are aregoing to be having high cortisol
levels, uh, and and so it whichhave many serious um negative
effects in the human physiology.
But again, we have to rememberthat we are not uh we are not,

(01:02:31):
we do not consist of multiplesystems like the cardiovascular
system, um, the central nervoussystem, the immune system, the
thyroid, the adrenals.
There's one system and it allworks together.
And you know, so the question isdoes it work for you're saying
underactive thyroid,hypothyroidism?

(01:02:52):
Actually, there was a studywhere they took uh it was eight
eight weeks, say it with 50people, they put them on 600
milligrams of ashwagandha a day,uh, and they found uh, and these
are people with thyroidproblems, um the hypothyroid,
and it showed significant umimprovement in all the people
that were taking it.
So, yeah, it does help,absolutely.

(01:03:12):
And you know, the um, and youknow, specifically the way it
helped, there was uh both the T3and T4, as you know, thyroid
hormone is uh triioto andtetraiod of uh thyroxine, right,
is what it is.
Anyway, so the T3 and T4 levelsthey had like a 41, 42 percent
uh increase in a in the T3, andthen it was like a 20% in the

(01:03:34):
T4.
So it's great.
And uh also um the TSH levelscame down, which is another just
another thing to be talkingabout.
All right, but we also know thatit also lowers the cortisol
levels, which is really, reallyimportant because that chronic
stress increases the uh winds upimpairing thyroid.

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So that chronic stress decreasesthyroid function.
So they're they were they'reworking together.
So by the ashwagandha having aneffect actually on the adrenals
by decreasing the cortisol, andalso by increasing separately in
a in a distinct pathway, uhincrease the T3 and T4, then we
know that yes, indeed, it'sgonna help with the

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hypothyroidism, but it's alsogonna help with the core with
the adrenals, and so there's aand this is so there's I think
there's addition and symmetrythere that need to be
acknowledged, right?
So, yes, right?
All right, so where are we?
Where are we now?
What time is it?
Oh, good, we've got some time.

(01:04:40):
Okay, this is Janet.
Um, and uh Janet, and this isregarding constipation.
I had detected H.
pylori.
I had the treatment for twoweeks on antibiotics.
I finished three weeks ago, andI had allergies, almost
everything perfume or creams.

(01:05:00):
I love it if I can have aconsultation with you, Dr.
Kindly, Janet.
Ah, so I didn't hear.
I I'm there's a little confusinghere.
The topic is constipation, butit's saying you're talking about
the wait a minute.
Oh, the and then H.
pylori, which is we think of astomach gastric for two weeks on
antibiotics infinite, and thenyou had allergies.

(01:05:22):
I guess that's separate, notrelated to to the it's so noisy.
Give me one second, I'm gonnaclose this.
Sorry about that.
Here we are.
Yeah, you know, um they'rethey're building um a resort
next door to me.
I I I I I moved here because itwas really private and
fantastic, pristine, and nowthey're building a resort.
They built one on the other sidenow, so I gotta move.

(01:05:43):
So I'm trying to think what'sworse.
Is it worse hearing the noise ofthe construction or when they're
finished and we're full ofpeople?
So bummer.
Anyway, Janet.
So, first of all, constipationis um a consequence of not
eating human food or medicationscan do that, certain drugs can
can do that as well, and itcould be a combination.

(01:06:08):
So the really easy way to dealwith that is to eat health, is
to eat human food, which isplants.
The more plants you eat, theless constipation and hydration.
What drinking a lot of fluidwater, um, you know, vegetable
juices, a little bit of fruit inthere.
But it's the cellulose, is whatthey call insoluble fiber.

(01:06:30):
There's two kinds of fiber, thesoluble and insoluble.
So the insoluble basically formslike it's it's it's cellulose,
and as it's passing through thegastrointestinal tract, it's
kind of like a broom and it justsweeps things along.
It also is very absorptive ofwater, and so it's so whenever
you're drinking water, it's anabsorbent, it just increases the
bulk and the movement of it.
Okay, so it's kind of like ithas feet and it crawls through.

(01:06:53):
So that's very important.
You do that and you don't haveto worry about anything else.
And stop eating five hoursbefore sleep and eat in a
five-hour window, and eat justeat a lot of plants and fruit
and nuts and seeds, and uhthat's done.
The constipation problem is overnow.
With regarding H.
pylori, helicobacter pylori is aum microorganism bacteria that

(01:07:14):
is found in the stomachs, whichis unique in it because the
stomach, as we mentioned alittle earlier, is one of the
physical barriers that doesn'tthat that that prevents the
movement of microorganismsbetween the oral cavity and the
gut, right?
Because it's got gut becauseit's acidic.
Well, these guys like it, theydon't actually live in this

(01:07:35):
acid, there, but they live inthe cells that produce it, and
um, because even they couldn'thandle the uh the that level of
acidity.
But that's what they they likethose cells, and in one way or
another, they seem to be relatedto of gastric ulcers, meaning
ulcers that form in the stomach.
The word gastric always refersto stomach.
So when they saygastrointestinal system, they're

(01:07:57):
talking about the stomach andthe intestines, which is small
intestines and large intestines.
So the um, so as a and and andand naturally the way that um
the conventional world uh dealswith H.
pylori.
So since it's a microorganism,we gotta kill it, we gotta kill
it.
Instead of recognizing it aspart of the dysbiotic dysbiotic,

(01:08:19):
what's the word?
Whatever.
It's it's part of the dysbiosisthing.
That's it's crazy.
That's what it is.
So um, but however, and insteadof antibiotics, you can use
colloidal silver.
And the one I recommend is fromnatural immunogenics, natural
immunogenics, and they theyproduce two products called one
is called sovereign silver,which is only 10 parts per

(01:08:41):
million, and they produce uhArgentine 23, which is 23 parts
per million.
It's really the best uhcolloidal silver because it
never comes out of colloid,right?
Which means it's uh it remainseffective because when it comes
out of colloid, colloid is whatthat means is that you've got
like the silver is almost likealmost like it's in a bubble

(01:09:02):
separated from the rest ofeverything.
And these are nano-sizedbubbles, and there's billions,
trillions of them, right?
Because if those little bubbles,as it were, were to open up and
they coalesce, then you're gonnaget a big lob of silver, and you
wind up getting a purple head,which you don't.
I mean a blue head, which iscalled or goria.
You don't want that, so you'vegot to have stable colloids, and

(01:09:24):
this is our gen 23, it's astable one, but it is extremely
antimicrobial, and by but itdoesn't really eliminate for
some reason the the uh the theones we need, the healthy ones.
So it's it's pretty amazing.
And if you get that, I wouldtake like a tablespoon every
couple hours.
It's good for other things too,it's good preventatively to keep

(01:09:44):
things healthy in your gut, acouple tablespoons a day, empty
stomach, of course.
But now, yeah, and now the otherthing, the other good news here,
Janet, is because you're gonnabe eating human food so that you
won't no longer haveconstipation, that will also be
the prebiotics to re-establish ahealthy biome, which got
disrupted because of theantibiotics you were on, right?
So, and you can you can you cantake some probiotics as well,

(01:10:07):
that'll be helpful, all right?
So, so you have allergies toalmost everything, including
perfumes and creams.
Well, here's the thing, Janet.
You know what's reallyinteresting is that what you've
picked out here are seeminglythree separate concerns, which
are all basically not threeseparate, they're different

(01:10:27):
manifestations of the sameunderlying situation.
And when we say we haveallergies, now at some point
there's a it's it's difficult todistinguish between what an
allergic situation is versus asituation where your body is
trying to eliminate a toxin thatit's being exposed to.
Are they the same?

(01:10:48):
Yeah, really.
But I think what would fall moreinto that allergic category is
when things that should normallynot be considered toxic to us,
when you're when you're taughtlike something that's we need to
eat or whatever, shouldn't causea reaction like that, which we
call either allergic or just uhgetting sick from eating a

(01:11:11):
toxin.
So the difference is when youget a um a um what's called the
leaky gut syndrome, where uh youget these breaks.
Um now all all the cells of thethat line the gastrointestinal
system are together, are hookedup together very tightly by

(01:11:32):
these little rivets, you know,that you would see in steel, but
they're they're similar, andthey're called tight junctions.
And these tight junctions canget stretched out and broken for
many reasons.
Eating too much, eating toofrequently, stuff like that is
gonna have an effect on them.
Having a dysbiosis is gonna havean effect on them.
So there's lots of eating foodsthat are they have toxins,

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there's lots of ways.
So the the the the tightjunctions are continually being
um renewed and repaired.
And um acromatsia is is one ofthe microorganisms, probably the
main one that actually uhrepairs tight junctions.
But anyway, so we need torestore your healthy gut biome,
and we need to help repair thegut so that you don't have a

(01:12:17):
leaky gut, so that you're nothaving a reaction that we call
allergic to something that wouldbe nutritive.
And we can do that by you knowhelping uh we can use biocyten
and other other things to helpwith the biofilm that may be
covering and protecting groupsof microorganisms in the
gastrointestinal tract.
We can add aquarancia, which isa probiotic, in so that it can

(01:12:40):
help repair.
We can use glutamine, which isan amino acid that is the fuel,
the primary fuel source for thecells that line the small
intestines, and aloe.
So together, um, and there's aproduct called glutalamine from
what's the company?
Glutalamine.
Who's that company?
But uh, what's that company?
Anybody you know?

(01:13:00):
That company is Celcor, right?
I don't know.
Uh anyway.
Um Zymogen, there we go.
Yay! Dr.
K to the rescue.

unknown (01:13:11):
Dr.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:11):
K is one of the doctors that works at our
center, um, Oasis.
Who uh Mike, uh, I mean, uh,where was it?
Teresa.
You you're gonna get in touch uhwith them right away.
Um, or they're gonna get intouch with you.
In fact, Dr.
K, I think you can ask, um, goon the uh um IO, whatever it is,

(01:13:34):
IOD ASIS, IOT Oasis, IodiaOasis, IOT OASIS.
Sounds cool.
Um, and ask one of them for howto get in touch with this uh
lady.
She's uh pretty much works veryclosely with her husband and
helps helps him through this.
So she would be the person you'dprobably contact.
Send them an email or becauseyeah, sounds like they need

(01:13:56):
help.
Anyway, all right.
So so anyway, yeah.
So those are the basic thingsyou would do.
So you've got to heal your gut,you've got to start eating human
food and eating appropriately.
I mean, allowing at least fouror five hours at before you
sleep so that you're you get themost out of sleep.
We won't go into that, and thenum, and you have time for

(01:14:16):
healing and all that sort ofthing.
So, this will go this is wherewe by just changing your diet,
it's gonna change everything.
Everything we've already talkedabout what of healthy having a
healthy cut biome does, itaffects everything from your
immunologicals to your brain.
I mean, so the constipation, theH.
pyloria, which might have beenassociated with some sort of
gastric pain, and theseallergies are all just signals

(01:14:38):
to you saying to your bodysaying, help, help.
And you heard and you you'regone, you're on to it.
So good, fantastic.
Go for it, Janet.
Join our group, the health andhealing group.
Just join the health and healinggroup, and then we can talk.
All right, and then you get aconsultation.
It's not you get a consultation,but we'll get to talk every
week, so or every other week,but health and healing, and you

(01:15:00):
get a lot of information too.
Okay, so now we're going to sowe're going to Leslie here and
um question ivermectinfembendazole for fourth stage
prostates that's metastasized tothe bone.
So metastasis of the bone, youalways want to consider
doxycycline 100 milligrams twicea day.
You always want to considerthat.
Um, but the ivermectinfembendazole we just talked
about, uh, yes, and I don't knowhow serious the situation is,

(01:15:23):
but they're using it withtaxateer, the mabendazole.
But so you need to get involved.
You can join our group, CFC.
And if you're in the US, give acall right now to uh an Oasis of
Healing.
Um, because we're we're on topof all these all this stuff, and
do both.
If you're a patient at Oasis,you have automatic membership in

(01:15:46):
the CFC group while you'rethere.
So that might be the way to go.
I I don't know your situation.
I'm just saying, either way,either join the CFC group or if
you feel like you need someimmediate attention, do the
other.
But yeah, ivermectinfimbendazole, the protocol, and
you um yeah, the fibazole 500milligrams three times a day,
and ivermectin at least 12milligrams three times a day.

(01:16:07):
But I don't know your situation.
I don't know your your li yourliver enzymes, there's so
there's so much I don't know, Ican't tell you to do any of
this.
I I I can't because there'sthere's too many variables that
could be um make this not a goodrecord.
So I can't do that.
But I'm just saying the usualprotocol would be that in the
bones.
The usual protocol would includedoxycycline, depending if you're

(01:16:29):
in the center, we might add in abisphosinate, but I don't like
them.
I don't think we need them.
Um anyway, and a lot of otherthings, so it's not just what
we're talking about at this verysecond about with the uh the the
um anti-protozools, antibiotics,we're also anti-uh worms, but
we're also talking about theentire program.
Now, what you need to do whenyou have CFCs is everything, not

(01:16:54):
a little bit of this and alittle bit of that.
Let me try that and let me try.
It can't be, it's got to beeverything right now.
Why?
Because this CFC condition is amind-body-spirit dysbiosis,
dysfunction, and then thatbalance needs to be restored.
And that means you've got to doeverything on every level with
every aspect of our being,right?

(01:17:15):
And uh, because it's like rightnow, it's showtime.
Let's take care of this.
And you do that's a beautifulthing.
And if you join our groups,you're gonna see all these
people are really amazing peoplethat have done it.
They're they're they're they'vebeen, you know, some of them
have been doing this for years,and they're they want to stay
that way.
And they're all we're allhelping each other.

(01:17:36):
It's a beautiful family typesituation, not to sound uh
cliche or anything, but it'snot, it's uh really has that
feeling, you know.
Let me look at some of your isit crazy, right?
No, so I'm seeing some commentsthat were probably earlier, but
the problem with bloodtransfusions is most people were
probably injected with uh uhmRNA bioweapons.

(01:17:56):
Absolutely true, but therebecomes a point where you no
longer have the option if yourhemoglobin is too low, you're
gonna die.
So you know, you've got to knowwhat that is.
If we're not at that point, thenuh encourage, stimulate the body
to produce its own, and that'swhere we use the erythropoietin
and uh venefer, which is thetype of intravenous iron
protocol.

(01:18:18):
So um, yeah.
And let me see, where was thatthing?
Oh what the heck?
Um anyway, I forget that.
Okay, let's go.
What's the next question here?
Um, but anyway, I hope you gotthat with the ibermagnetin and
mabendazol.
And yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes, yes, and under this,
this, this, this circumstances.
So we've got to, you know, so ifyou join the group, we can

(01:18:41):
narrow in on what you're talkingabout.
Um, and if it's you're seriousright now, you go to Oasis, and
then you'll be in the groupsanyway.
So let's you know, take care ofthat, Leslie.
Because a lot of times, youknow, just getting a question
answered is not really whatpeople are looking for here.
They're really looking for help,the way out.
How do I get out of it?
I'm I'm in trouble, I need somehelp, and I've I want to help

(01:19:01):
you.
And if it's stage four in thebone, call oasis and then get
the yeah.
Next, share.
Um, how do you get rid of lichenplateness?
This is for a friend.
She had it for 10 years or so.
I'm pretty sure the generalform.
Well, lichen plateness is whoknows what it is.
It's um, you know, now thatwe've gotten all sophisticated

(01:19:24):
with immunology, we think it's aT cell mediated autoimmune.
So, just once again, for all ofus who grew up with Rocky and
his boys, Rocky and the gang,the immune system does not
attack the body.
Hard to believe, shouldn't be.
But our immune system doesn'tattack us.
Remember, the author, the thethe the the the the the the the

(01:19:46):
creator, the producer of thisincredible earth suit is God.
So anyway, whatever we call anautoimmune condition is when the
immune system has identifiedsomething, and many times we can
see, understand what it is thatthe immune system is identified
and is um responding to, butthere are often times we cannot

(01:20:08):
identify it, and if we can'tidentify it, then we conclude
that the immune system isattacking the body.
This is just the arrogance andignorance of the human being.
For example, what is that 99% ofthe DNA of our DNA does not have
codes, does not have uhinformation.

(01:20:28):
So, what do they call it?
The scientists, junk DNA.
So God produced, or for those ofyou who think evolution,
evolution produced by way ofsort of of what's it called,
natural selection, resulted in99% junk and a little 1% of the
stuff we need.
No, and then what's that otherword?

(01:20:49):
No and no.
There's no junk in the universe.
The only place there's junkuniverse is in the mind of
humans.
The only place in the universewhere there's junk is in the
mind of humans.
All right, so uh the uh all that99 is was necessary for that
whole process is take it's partof the apparatus, the
functioning, okay, for you uhjunk brained scientists, and

(01:21:12):
then uh lichen planus, it's achronic inflammatory affecting
the skin and mucosal cervices,and we believe that it's T cell
mediated, okay.
So anything they say is at bestuseless, okay.
And of course, there aredifferent types, not locations,
types.
There's cutaneous mucosal, theycan have in planus of the nails,

(01:21:35):
and then there's vulvar, youknow, women can have it.
Um, anyway, it can be a prettymuch of a bumper, usually people
between age 30 and 60, but youknow what, things are changing
now with the uh new mRNAbioweapons running around, so
who knows?
We're gonna see it in uhnewborns, or maybe in embryos,
anyway.
So, what do we do?
What do we do with this?

(01:21:57):
Okay, um, and the whole thing isis obviously what we're talking
about is that the immune systemhas gotten involved in something
that we can't identify.
So, what do we need to do?
Clearly, it's very clear we needto do an incredibly thorough
cleansing program, which inbiological dentistry, number
one, long juice cleanse,colonics, lymphatic, complete

(01:22:21):
cleanse, and then there are manyways to support immunity, and
that's why getting our our ourthe important nutrients like the
vitamin vitamin C, ascorbates,and the vitamin A and the
vitamin D, those are allimportant with immunity, they're
all necessary for immunity.
Getting our thyroid function isis important for me for our
immune system.
Thyroid is one of the bosses ofthe immune system and the

(01:22:42):
adrenals.
So by re-establishing thebalance in those and then
balancing all of our hormones,just restoring balance is going
to do that, and then feeding theimmune system, giving it what it
needs and what doesn't need.
And that's what's gonna happenwith this diet and the cleansing
thing.
And then when you do eat, you'regonna eat again in human human
food in the right at the righttimes, the right amounts.

(01:23:05):
And then there are things youcan additionally that you can
take depending on what thesituation is.
So we need to look at alymphocyte subset to see what's
going on is in your situation.
What's going on?
What's going on with your thymusgland, which is T cells, which
produces uh, you know, matures Tcells.
So there's a lot to this.

(01:23:26):
So your friend who's been goingthrough this for a long time is
not having a really good time.
Uh, join the health and healinggroup and we can deal with that.
Uh, we're working on expandingthe number of seats we have at
Oasis.
And if we uh ever get to thepoint where we can expand
enough, I would like to workwith people, not only people
that don't have I uh CFCs whohave other serious concerns like

(01:23:49):
this in plainness, but um I meanit can be a real bummer.
Like, and I don't know what yourfriend has done, so really hard
for me to comment any further.
So why don't we have you go todrloti.com, drlodi.com, and join
the health and healing group soI can ask you a couple more
questions so we can help yourfriend.
And let's get your friend onthere.
We can't just have you talkingfor your friend.

(01:24:11):
I hope your friend is uh youknow motivated to take another
perspective.
You are all right.
So here we are with Curtis anduh wait, where are we in terms
of time?
What time is it?
Oh so I guess it's gonna be ourlast question.
Um, Curtis, colon erectal CFCs.
Is there any data statements onusing ivory to treat erect

(01:24:33):
erectile CFCs?
There is.
Let me show you one here.
Um, this one I want it's uh thisis a study published um in 2021.
Let me give you the exact thinghere.
So ivermectin, this is uh infront frontiers and pharmacology
is the name of that.
The article published in 2021.
Ivermectin has new applicationinhibiting colorectal CFC

(01:24:56):
growth, cancer cell growth theyuse.

unknown (01:24:57):
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:58):
So what they said, let me just read this a little
bit to you because they I wantyou to understand it.
Whereas uh the resultsdemonstrated that ivermectin
dose-dependently inhibitedcolorectal cancer, cell growth,
followed by promoting cellapoptosis and increasing
casbase.
Okay, so apoptosis is where acell recycles itself, and it

(01:25:21):
happens through something calledcaspase, that's part of the
process.
Besides, ivermectin upregulatedthe expression of pro-apoptotic
proteins, backs, and uh and andcleaved parp.
Well, that means proaptoticproteins, so proteins that are
involved in apoptosis, which iseliminating cells, not by
slaughtering them, but byrecycling them.

(01:25:43):
Okay, and so it upregulatedthese specific factors.
So this is real data, right?
And it downregulated the antiprouh aproptotic proteins.
And if that weren't enough, itpromoted both both total and
mitochondrial ROS production indose-dependent manner, which
could be eliminated byadministering NAC in CRCs,

(01:26:05):
colorectal following NACtreatment, the inhibitive cell
growth.
Anyway, yes, it works.
They're serious, but they'recalling it what they're calling
it.
Uh, let me just tell you whatthey're calling it.
The new miracle drug for rectalcancer, in their words, that's
what they're calling it.
Okay, and that's just that.
We can find the same with andcolon, we can find the same with
phenomendosol.
So the answer is yes, there isvery good data, very good

(01:26:28):
information, and stuff that youreally want to know about.
And I'm really glad that you areasking and you asked the right
place.
You didn't ask your oncologistbecause they would say, No, you
can't get out of my office,right?
You don't want that kind ofthing.
Anyway, you guys, so Bloody Cup,thank you so much.
I've uh uh there's so many morethings we didn't answer, and we

(01:26:51):
will get to eventually.
And I think if we keep it up atthis pace by 2090, we should
have all the questions answered.
Anyway, so join the groups tooso that we can interact, all
right?
Somebody come up.

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