April 30, 2025 • 46 mins
Taylor Carter-Jones returns to the Drama Desk to unpack day two of the Nashville trip, where Porsha's birthday celebration is derailed by betrayal and unexpected confrontations. What side are you on as this Nashville nightmare unfolds? Subscribe to hear my thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello again.
We are back at the drama desk.
I am your host, taylorCarter-Jones, and we're in
Nashville, day two.
Let's get into it.
So we're in Nashville, day twoand we're opening up with
Shamia's country song, portia'sBirthday Karaoke, fun Time
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Sing--along, which is a reallylong title, but I guess.
So my question after watchingthis was did shamia write this
during the trip or just for aconfessional?
Did they like show her apackage during the confessional?
And they were like okay, shamia, you're now um an r&b recording
artist, we're going to need youto drop a track.
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This was really silly, but Iguess.
So it's basically just checkingin on everyone.
They're having their phonecalls with family Britt's on the
phone with Benzino and talkingabout how she's guarded toward
Angela.
Okay, girl, shamia calls homefor the kid's doctor's
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appointment.
I think it was Shiloh Um, andthis made me upset, because I
understand that she has a greathusband in Gerald.
That's wonderful, but for herto say that he's been so
supportive and there for her andthe kids, so she has to give
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him um another child, um the sonthat he wants, what Like, what
that's so antiquated like it'shis job to be there, um for her
and take care of her and thekids, like that's what your
partner does, and when youdecided that you wanted to have
children, um, it's his job to bea dad.
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So, yeah, I would have maybegotten behind if she was like I
know he wants a son and I do too, so let's do it Like, not I
have to, but okay, that's fine.
Cynthia and Angela are at thepool and they're talking about
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how Angela is loyal to Drew.
But I don't know, my loyalty toa friend has never had me
invite said friend to a partythat that friend wasn't invited
to, because that's just rude.
However, this is a show, solet's like, fine, we're good.
And then Cynthia show.
I mean not Cynthia.
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Drew shows up and yeah, she'stalking about giving an olive
branch.
I don't know where her olivebranch is, but yeah, because
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this whole time she's been alittle combative anytime that
she and Portra have had adiscussion about the issue at
hand, which is Dennis filmingwith Drew, and yeah, like Drew,
come on, what is wrong with you,girl?
She doesn't want you filmingwith her husband.
It's that simple.
Like, just don't, you can stillwork with him.
Go ahead, work with him, butjust don't film with him.
Duh, obviously, she was neverPortia's actual friend, but
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that's besides the point.
So we're going on our little daytrip where we split um
activities famous on housewives.
So we've got whiskey tastingand bartending.
So right now the ladies arejust having their little
pre-drink.
We get to see everybody comedown in their outfits.
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Everyone is coming down inblack.
Okay, different black outfits,minus Angela.
She must have forgotten whatthe dress code for the day was.
Or we're having Angela stickout because she's the odd man
out.
I don't know.
You choose, you decide.
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But yeah, when in doubt,pasties out Kelly.
I didn't notice until they'dgotten back from the trip not
back from the Nashville trip,but back from the whiskey
tasting slash bartending.
That not only does Kellykelly's naked, but go off, sis,
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she looks great.
I love kelly.
Uh, she can do no wrong.
I think that they're hilarious.
Um, and in the after show shetalks about how this is a new
era for housewives, like theball gowns just aren't going to
cut it anymore.
There you are.
That's certainly not about noton the opposite spectrum of ball
gown.
Yeah, so I live for that.
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Shamia and Portia are chattingin Portia's room.
Now if you want to get realfucked up, let me let you know,
take a shot every time you heara housewife say gaslighting.
I think they might've said itlike six times in their brief
conversation.
It was like a 30 second clip ofthe two of them talking.
I just I with gaslighting.
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I need someone to put up adefinition of gaslighting, cause
I feel like it changes from umepisode to episode, from uh
housewife to housewife.
So I need them to subtitle thatevery time, please.
Um, then we're on the sprinterwhere we're gonna separate, and
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I thought this was interesting.
I don't know like, and maybewe're like getting to know
shamia again, and that's whythis was included, because it
seemed kind of random.
Um, she got a text message fromsomeone who I guess didn't
believe her when she was tellingfriends at the time that her
previous spouse was physicallyabusive.
This person didn't believe herand they happened to send her a
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text whilst on this sprinter.
So then we had a moment talkingand talking about um, the video
that candy did um about, Iguess, um awareness video.
I'm not, I don't quite remember.
So sorry, um, and I know thisis serious.
I'm not trying to make light,but I don't remember what the
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video was.
I don't want to say the wrongthing, um, but then cynthia's
talking about her mom and we geta clip of that portion of the
candy video.
But yeah, again, I don't, I'mnot quite sure why this came up,
but yeah, so we're splitting up, uh, coyote ugly.
Bartending is porsche, shamiaand kelly, and then we've got
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whiskey tasting with angela,cynthia, brit and drew, which is
hilarious how they split upconsidering the past few
episodes, events.
The Coyote Ugly of it all wassuper cute.
I really enjoyed that.
They were really funny.
I don't know if I could do whatthey did with those shop
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glasses, but, yeah, go off girls.
This was an advertisement, Isuppose.
Also just fun, I would haveloved to do that.
The whiskey tasting yeah, thatlooked so.
After the whiskey tasting andbartending, portia is talking
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about how her friends areactually mutual friends, uh,
with Drew, and we're genuinelysurprised by Drew not being
there, which to me, I don't know.
I don't know how I feel aboutthat.
If I have friends and we have amutual friend that I'm not
getting along with and I knowthat we're all going to be in
the same place, at least myclosest friend in that group is
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going to know we have a littleissue.
Somebody is going to know I'mnot going in there saying
nothing.
That's crazy.
I don't know how I feel aboutthat.
I think that at least one ofthem knew At least I can't
remember her name, but itstarted with a P the girl who
said something in the lastepisode when they were at the
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dinner table about Drew giving ablowjob.
Obviously she knew what wasgoing on, otherwise she wouldn't
have said that.
That seems like something oneof my girlfriends would have
said, knowing I was mad.
And maybe she's not that closewith Drew, maybe she's just
Portia's friend.
But, come on, nobody just saysthat they showed the friend
saying it like whatever.
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Shamia spilled some tea aboutAngela thinking Kelly was
talking smack about her, andthen production does a what
Angela really said clip and Idied because it wasn't exactly
how Shamia was making it out tobe.
Um, but yeah, portia thinksangela's setting drew up.
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I don't think that she's doingthat.
I just think that she misfiredwith this trying to get portia
and drew to be friendly again.
I think that she was trying tohave her Angela moment and but
not in a not in as high key of away that Brit was trying, has
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been trying to have severalmoments since episode one.
So Brit lets Angela know thatshe plays the victim, um, so
that you're not confused.
Brit is letting angela know thatangela plays the victim and
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then brings it back to britwanting empathy, um, at the
brunch.
And then she didn't get that.
And I roll because, brit, youare like the first lady of
victimville, like seriously, youare continuously playing victim
, not taking any accountability.
Do I think I'll say this untilI'm blue in the face?
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I don't think what kenya didwas right.
I don't think what brit did wasright, and I've not seen Brit
say anything other than that,like the immediate episode after
, where she's laying it on thickabout how she shouldn't have
said that.
I don't think that she meant it.
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I think that now she was tryingto save face and that she has
this opportunity to gainattention from being the victim
in the Kenya poster scandal, ofit all.
But it's just, it's not workingfor me.
It's making me like Brit less.
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Yeah, I appreciate Cynthiabeing the voice of reason, as
always, queen Cynthia sayingthat it's fine that Brit needs
empathy and it's fine to giveher said empathy, but it's also
okay to miss Kenya.
Why would they not try to goand maybe not reconcile, but at
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least talk to her, see where herhead's at in the moment, see
where her head was at when shedid what she did.
Like would she think that theywere all going to drop her, drop
Kenya, and just be friends withBrit, this girl they had only
just met.
No, that's not, that's notrealistic.
I even show, or no show, likethat's just not realistic.
You're the new friend, new, noteven really friend.
So, please, I don't know if Ican continue on every episode
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talking about this.
Um, I know that it's episodeeight, but god, it's been months
.
Why, why, why are we stilltalking about the Brit and Kenya
thing?
Like, let it go, let it go, I'mdone, I'm bored.
Um, we find out that Cynthiakilled a bottle of whiskey and
she still has her wits about her.
So go off, cynthia, that's it.
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I love her, I love Cynthia.
That's all I have to say aboutthat.
Uh, then we've got cowboydinner.
So cynthia, brit drew shamia,they all come down.
And then kelly comes down andis wearing a cow skin rug.
I think it's fantastic.
Go off.
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I, like I said, I love kelly, Ilove this cow skin rug.
I want to know, know where Ican get it and drape it around
me.
But Shemya checks in and wefind out that right, oh, I
skipped ahead.
Portia comes down noticeablyupset, like we all.
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It's kind of giving.
Ask me why I'm mad.
It's kind of giving.
Ask me why I'm mad she's notdressed in the cowgirl setup
that she had on while she wastalking to PJ and Dennis, who
was laid up in the bed lookingcrazy.
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Find out that right after thecall with Dennis and Pilar, an
unnamed individual called Portiato let her know that Dennis has
indeed been filming with Drew,after Portia's very emotional
talk with Dennis at that kid'splay zone situation and after
another talk that she had withhim two months ago.
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So I get why she's mad.
I would be mad too and I lovePortia.
But coming down now you're justdressed in all black like you're
going to a funeral.
This is supposed to be yourbirthday cowboy dinner and you
were all cute in your littlewhite cream cowgirl outfit and
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cowgirl hat.
Now you're in depression modeand visibly irritated, visibly
upset.
If you were that upset, I don'tknow, maybe instead call it off
, say you're not coming powerthrough, but to come downstairs
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like that and then just look sad, like I said, like it's giving
please ask me what's wrong.
And I didn't like that, like Idon't know.
I feel like porsche is betterthan that, but whatever.
Um, then production of courseshows the conversation two
months ago of that porsche anddennis had in the car and like
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it's kind of hot mic moment, uh.
And then eight days later ashot of dennis filming in the
studio with drew.
Like it's very annoying, dennisneeds a slap.
But yeah, then we get blake.
The line dance instructor whocomes out, introduces these
hot-bodied cowboys and drew saidnone of them are hot.
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Um, okay, drew, I didn't reallylook at their faces, but I feel
like drew was just sayingsomething for the sake of being
contrary to the situation,because it was portia's
situation.
So shemia said angela is doingthe wobble and kelly is looking
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like a troll.
When they're doing these linedances, not everyone can dance.
Like, give them a break, shemia, just because you're good at
everything.
Um, girls now sit down for thedinner and they're again asking.
Well, now they're asking portiawhat's wrong.
She just just said she tooksome medication.
I don't know.
Every time I take NyQuil I'vebeen dressed in all black and
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look kind of sad myself, youdon't.
So Britt is now talking aboutwhat was resolved Nothing was
resolved at the whiskey tastingbut asks angela to explain what
was resolved.
Why, like girl, just just sayit.
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Um, and so angela startstalking about how sometimes she
can come across as the victimand then trails off and says
well, actually I don't know howI come across as the victim.
Angela's really gonna pretend.
This is why brit should havejust explained what she thought,
so then angela could have justshaken her head, yes, and said,
yeah, that is what happened.
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Um, shamiya, then let's, forshamiya loves to um, move things
along.
Right, she's that person thisseason, this cast um, who is
moving storyline and busting inwith what needs to be said.
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She did this in the firstepisode too, when they were all
sitting around together up in Iguess it was her bedroom, right?
Yeah, so Shamia lets Angelaknow that Portia thought that
she was gaslighting her, andwhen angela asks how, portia
says uh, portia says she doesn'tremember and she's looking like
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the calm before the storm.
I know that she doesn't want toget into it and I can
appreciate that, because oldportia, honey, angela's claiming
portia never told her Drewwasn't invited, which we all saw
the clip in the last episodeand in this episode of the zoom
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call that they had, where Drewwasn't there.
Hello, and then angela startstalking about how well she
didn't know that drew justdidn't miss the call.
Um, which it's very frustratingbecause angela is a smart woman
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and she's playing dumb.
Like I expect that from drew, Idon't expect that from angela.
It seems like she is takingthis turn from where she started
and um, like what it seemed shewas doing on the show, like who
she was going to be.
Now she's doing this new thingand I don't know how I feel
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about it.
But we'll keep.
I'll keep watching and keepseeing if things change.
I don't like this currentAngela right now, but whatever.
Then Angela points out thatshe's the only one who's being
held accountable, which makes nosense, and then she explains
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that Kelly asked the questioninitially.
Did you get the answer youwanted, talking about kelly
asking in episode one um, didyou steal that woman's man girl?
What that's?
Apples and oranges you'redeflecting right now because
drew has just said she didn'tmiss the call, which I said was
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angela's claim, and that shewasn't invited to the call.
So Angela would have known that.
Let's be real.
The jig is up.
Why are you now deflecting toPortia?
This is a different situation.
What?
And Portia and Kelly have hadtheir conversation and we've
moved on.
So just be in the moment, girls.
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I didn't expect this deflectioneither from Angela.
This is not, I don't know.
It's weird.
I don't like this angle she'staking now.
So Angela says she's notdeflecting and Portia needs to
be accountable and the worldwants to know if she stole that
man.
To which cynthia I cannotexpress how much I love her says
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I think that we should move on,which I completely agree.
Um, because portia looks likeshe's about to start hooking off
in a moment.
Uh, cynthia already got into aphysical altercation with Portia
on that boat.
She knows the pop-off potentialthat's there.
So she then asks Portia if shewants to answer Angela's
question or just move on, andPortia says she'd like Angela to
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kiss her ass, which I agree.
I would want Angela to do thattoo, because now you've brought
up a whole other thing.
We're talking about this onething that is already bothering
Portia Drew coming there.
She has expressed several manytimes that she did not want Drew
there when you asked, when youtold her, when you guys were
already there if Drew could come, or that you had invited Drew.
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I think that she handled itpretty graciously and Angela,
you're poking the bear prettygraciously.
And Angela, you're poking thebear.
I would have told her to kissmy ass too.
You're on my trip, production'strip, but my trip and you're
acting the damn fool.
You're too old for this, notageism, but you're just too old.
They're all too old for this.
This is stupid.
Why are you behaving this way?
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Drew is not your friend justbecause you're from the same
city.
Stop.
Y'all weren't friends beforethis.
You didn't know that Drew wasrelated to Michael Jordan.
If my friend was related toMichael Jordan, I would know.
I know that Drew is not reallyrelated and we talked about this
, but I'm just saying Portia isjust way too calm.
It's kind of scary.
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And this is when Kelly pretendsthat she needs to go to the
bathroom and I think that she'sreally looking for her security
detail just to make sure they'reclose by in case of emergency
and Drew decides.
Drew says Demis is stumped.
This is a moment to address theelephant in the Um.
I just can't.
She says happy birthday toPortia and asks if she's good
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with her being there because sheknows, um, even if Angela does
not, that she wasn't invited.
And Portia says flatly, youstraight.
And I, I died.
I can't wait to be mad atsomeone enough, like beyond mad,
fuming, infuriated, and onlygive them a you straight as an
answer if they ask me if I'm madat them.
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The composure, I love it.
Portia's my girl.
I will not tell you that she'sright all the time, because
she's not, but because I'vealready said, I think, that
coming down with the all blackand pout mouth was a lot, but
she could have gone off and shedidn't.
She stays really calm and Iappreciate that.
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Um.
So now drew is in a half,discusses her alleged olive
branch of a birthday whiskeybottle and says that she's
leaving because at this pointshe's extended an olive tree
which I haven't seen a single.
I haven't seen a leaf, letalone a damn branch.
So drew is definitely my leastfavorite.
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Let me just put that other.
Um.
Everyone's telling her to stay,of course, because that's what
we do when people storm off fromthe table.
Drew's not going anywhere.
We find out later.
She just went upstairs, butthat's fine.
Drew asks if anyone has anyother issues with her and then
Kelly just asks for some fishbecause she's trying to change
the subject.
I think we are past that point.
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Bye, drew.
Cynthia asks Portia if she wantsDrew to leave and she says I'm
not a mean girl, I haven't beenmean to her all day, which is
totally true.
She greeted her kindly when sheshowed up and she just hadn't
been giving Drew any flack allday.
She was kind of paying her dust, but not in a rude way.
She just said hey, welcome andlet it go.
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Unless we missed something,something.
Um, unless we missed somethinglike truly, even when Portia
came to the dinner post phonecall, um, she very well could
have gone off and it wouldn'thave been a shock, but she
didn't.
So I love that.
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She says this is, this one ison whatever.
She's on, talking about Angelain front of Angela and then says
with Drew, she's just very intodramatics, talking about quote,
unquote, air quotes.
She puts up let's address theelephant in the room.
I thought that that was reallyfunny that she did that and
Portia was right, like it wasn'tnecessary, unnecessary, uh, and
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if drew really wanted toapologize or mend fences, it
definitely could have been donedifferently, um, or or privately
, no one insulted or attackedher.
She's crazy, um.
So then we leave dinner andcynthia goes to porsche's room,
where porsche fills her in onthe call without really telling
her, um, and takes her lashesoff and pretends to pull off her
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wig, saying that she's breakingdown which I'm laughing.
It's not funny, but she made itfunny.
Cynthia agrees that what'shappening wouldn't be okay with
her, which we know because itwouldn't be okay with most other
human beings and Portia thensays that Dennis is the one that
she's mad at, because he madean agreement with her about how
they'd work together and Drewdidn't.
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Drew doesn't owe her anything,but Dennis is the father of her
child and they will be familyforever and he needs to respect
her wishes, because this is hershow, not her show.
This is the Portia show, butthis is Portia's thing.
Be not her show like this isthe porsche show, but this is
porsche's thing, it's not histhing, and I feel like he's
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encroaching.
Go get a hot dog reality show.
Stop these games, idiot.
Um.
So everyone's at the poolpartying, except for angela, and
then we get the morning afterthe pool's a hot mess.
Um, kelly and brit are in thebed bedroom.
I call it because there's likeeight beds and somehow they
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ended up in the bed togetherinstead of like, except but I
digress angela was recordingthem.
Apparently brit says she heardthat angela was recording them.
Apparently Britt says she heardthat Angela was recording them.
How did you hear that, britt?
Through production.
Then Angela is talking to aproducer who we see their oh my
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gosh closed caption when shetells them last night she heard
some things she wished shedidn't hear.
Angela's on the phone withcharles at 2 30 in the morning,
which I don't know.
That's weird for me.
But however you sleep, maybehe's a vampire.
Um, and it shook to hear hername mentioned outside.
Allegedly portia spilled hertruth and was talking about how
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angela dresses and talking aboutcharles, and then I guess
portia threatened um to sleepwith charles or try to sleep
with charles.
Um, so yeah, this is why angelais recording.
And then when you cut to thevideo clip of her recording,
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there's no sound and you can'tsee really anything other than
them standing there like I don'tknow what her video is supposed
to be proving.
But okay, angela, it was superfunny when portia said that she
didn't remember anything becausethe henny had took over.
Okay, she don't remember.
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Maybe she, she does, maybe shedoesn't, but she's claiming
Henny and that's that and that'sfine.
So then when they go to Brit, uh, old, loose lips, mcgee she is,
she does remember.
And she's talking about howShamia said Charles was sleeping
over town, all over town.
So it's like, okay, angela isabout to be real mad at portia,
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but portia wasn't the only onesaying stuff, so what?
I know that she made thecomment about sleeping with
charles, but whatever.
Um, and then kelly says thatshe remembers portia saying she
better stop before I fuck herhusband.
So I now know, don't bring ke,kelly or Brit to a crime,
because they are going to singlike canaries.
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Afterward, angela says shebetter listen because Portia
will fuck your husband, ashistory shows, which, okay,
angela, it was one time.
It might've been two if we gobackwards, but I didn't do my
research into that otheroccasion, so I only know the
fallon thing.
So, whatever, and look, itdidn't work out for portia.
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So look, maybe that's her karma.
So shut up angela.
Um, kelly goes to say goodmorning to angela and she's
obviously pissed and it'stelling Kelly that she's not
with the fakeness and Kellydoesn't understand what she's
talking about.
Angela has been attacked andattacked.
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She says and she walked in,grown and is going to leave,
grown too, and she's had it.
The buck stops here with BS andapparently everyone but Drew is
a puppet to Portia.
I'm excited for the next fewepisodes to see how this plays
out, because I I can't, um, Idon't know, I'm still team
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Portia.
I can't even imagine what she'sbeen going through with crazy
Simon and him not allowing herto film in the house and um
serving her with a cease anddesist, not letting her show how
she's dealing with the divorceof it all, because she did show
that with Cordell Um, if y'allremember, he didn't have any
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orders, gag orders not allowingher to talk about what she was
going through.
So I feel like she can't giveas much storyline as she
normally would.
And what does it have to dowith anything?
I don't.
It has to do with the fact that, look, I feel like porsche's
having a hard time.
Give her a damn break, that'sit, um.
And then he's all over theinternet, simon, trying to drag
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porsche.
And then you have dennis, whoyou think is your support um,
going behind your back afterhe's agreed that he would do
this, which I'm sure jogs up abunch of other issues.
I don't remember why theydidn't work out, but I'm pretty
sure it was because he wascheating.
So now it's like okay, you didthat and I have figured out a
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way back to trusting you, atleast as far as our daughter is
concerned.
And now we've made an agreementthat has nothing to do with us
romantically and you broke theagreement.
So how am I supposed to trustyou?
Their daughter is like under 10.
They have many years left.
This has got to be a lot.
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Give Portia a damn break.
Leave Portia alone.
Leave Portia alone.
So on the next episode I guessthere's a puppy event Angela's
spilling the tea to Charlesabout what Portia said and he
looks confused.
So we'll see if that's just howthat clip was made or what if
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he's really confused.
Dennis said Drew isn't evensigned to him anymore and she
tried to sleep with him.
And he makes that shocked.
Push myself back face whenportia because portia is the one
who says didn't you saysomething to the effect of like,
didn't you say that you triedto sleep with you?
So now this is gonna be a wholenew monster.
Um, yeah, cynthia's doing theBailey cue.
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I cannot wait.
I cannot wait to find out, like, who has what mileage on their
mouths is the last thing thatthey said, which I think is
extremely funny.
After show too and I normallydon't, but I wanted to see what,
like where we're at temp checkon the gals when they show
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shamia and kelly.
Kelly's chest had me confusedas to where her gold necklace
stopped and where her skin began.
She was shining.
She looks like an academy award, a golden globe.
Are those the same?
If they are, she looked goldand shiny.
So that's what I meant aboutthat.
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Um, and then they've gotporsche and brit sitting
together, which I don't likebecause of the past beef between
porsche and kenya.
I feel like that's gonna like.
I don't know that could stirshit up and I don't like that at
all because I really liked thatporsche and Kenya were getting
along.
I want them to be friends.
I'm hoping that Kenya comesback next season and they get
rid of Brit, but that's my justmy dream, so we'll see.
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I love Portia's outfit with thesnake climbing up.
I think the pants could havebeen different, but I'm not a
fashionista, so what do I know?
Her cups stay running overAngela.
Cynthia and Drew are the otherpairing.
I hate Drew's outfit.
You look ridiculous.
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Cynthia's hair is giving, asalways and, dear Angela, yes,
wig.
That wig is tight.
I'm glad that she's got the newglue going.
Shamia starts talking about howshe wouldn't invite anyone to
not her birthday party, but justlike hello.
I feel like I said that 20minutes ago.
Um, like, why, where do they dothat?
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Take away the fact that we'reon a reality show and the
audience wants drama.
No one does that.
Then they show a clip of angelasaying she's missing her
Chicago partner on the Zoom.
And this is when Portiacomments on Angela asking her on
the Zoom if she was invitingDrew, to which Portia said it
seems like you're the only onewho is on mute.
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Like I can't hear you.
Like, to me, that's obvious.
No, she's not invited, she'snot there.
Like, stop it.
To me that's obvious.
No, she's not invited, she'snot there.
Like, stop it.
Angela saying inviting Drew wasjust shits and giggles is a real
reach.
Like it wasn't shits andgiggles because you invited a
whole human who Portia didn'twant there.
Where's the giggles, where'sthe shits?
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I'll wait.
Britt then comes with a fire.
She stays piped up up.
I just can't talk about.
It was unnecessary.
Brit is too much.
I I don't like her either, butwe all know this, um, and I also
realize if I didn't realizebefore that drew owns a home on
delusional island.
I don't understand how she afelt so unwelcome the whole time
that she was there, because,again, I'm repeating myself, but
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this is because I watched theafter show and I didn't put
everything together.
Portia welcomed her kindly andthen went to the whiskey tasting
Like.
The only time she even had anattitude was after the dentist
call later in the evening, andthat was, yeah, about Drew, but
more so about Dennis, and shewasn't on camera being nasty to
drew.
Maybe something got left on thecutting room floor that we
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didn't see.
From what we did see, um, drewsounds like she's playing the
victim, which is pretty par forher course.
Um and I and how did you notthink the situation with you and
portia was that deep?
Like it had been eight episodes, and each time this comes up
it's very clear it's deep.
It hasn't been resolved, soit's deep.
She calls you a low down, dirtybitch.
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It's deep.
You don't just say that forfunsies like you were friends
and now you're not.
That that is deep to me.
If y'all were real, real goodjudys, hello and hello.
And now she hates you.
She's not talking, she's notfucking with you at all.
She kills me, like she alwaysplays this game like I don't get
it.
I don't get it, she does.
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She is delusional as fuck, likethat's a given.
But I don't think that she'sdumb.
I think that this is all a gameand people have called her out
on this on and off the showsince she started the show.
Um, and angela felt the issuewas minimal, but it's, it's not.
Obviously portia was big mad,that's how she felt.
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You can't say we can't tellpeople how to feel in one breath
, talking about brit being sad,about everyone flocking to kenya
instead of licking her wounds,and then invalidate porsche's
feelings like also girl, how didyou think anyone moved on when
you asked porsche about drew onthis?
Oh, it was clear porsche hadn'tmoved on.
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Is it a chicago thing?
Is the delusion a chicago thing?
People from chicago, let meknow, are y'all delusional?
Because if not, then that's notan excuse and it by angela by,
like for you to say that youthought that you could fix this.
Um, you're moving in a way thatwas not miss fix it.
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As far as their issue.
And I disagree that portia, uh,with portia that she was
stirring the pot like I.
I don't think that, ang, shewas stirring the pot like I
don't think that Angela wasstirring the pot.
I just I do agree, wrong place,uh, wrong time to lay your
issues out.
Um, when she brought up Drewcoming in front of Portia and
Drew's mutual friends, but yeah,like you could have waited
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until next week when it wasn'tPortia's birthday, like there
was still a whole season thatyou could have brought this up,
but you chose porsche's birthdayto do it and that is why I
think that angela was trying tohave a moment, because otherwise
you wouldn't have done thisduring porsche's birthday trip.
But whatever, and as I saidbefore, like I really I'm not
sure if I believe that Portia'sfriends knew 0% about this, but
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I won't go into that againbecause I already talked about
it.
Britt is hyping Portia upbecause, again, I do think
Angela inviting Drew is messyboots down.
However, I don't think she wasfanning a fire or trying to
expose anything at the dinnernight one with Portia's friends,
and I don't know when they filmthese after shows, right, but I
am assuming it's like duringthe airing of the show, when
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screeners are being sent inadvance to the cast and they're
watching confessionals andscenes, getting them fired up
from the lull of post-productionif they were ever unfired up.
I know we're only on episodeeight, but this reunion is going
to be spicy, like I alreadyfeel it.
And I know Kenya got only onepisode eight.
But this reunion is going to bespicy, like I already feel it.
And I know Kenya got disinvited, but I still think the
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remaining cast is going to be agreat reunion, and Feifei hasn't
even entered the chat.
This is going to be such a goodreunion.
I can't wait.
I hope that they don't let medown.
Yeah, down, yeah.
So Drew can't say that she feltset up.
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Drew also has no other friendshere.
Cynthia doesn't count becauseshe's a friend to all.
Drew can't really be mad aboutthe bunk bed because, like, only
three rooms were decent in thathouse.
The other rooms were kind oftrash, so it was what it was.
You knew you weren't going toget one of the other rooms were
kind of trash, so it was what itwas.
You knew you weren't going toget one of the best rooms, so
stop it.
You weren't even invited to thetrip.
Lucky that they had a place foryou to sleep.
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Um, when the producer shouts outto portia, let's talk about
angela inviting drew, I I'm likewait, what?
This is what we've been talkingabout this whole time.
Did, did, drew, slip me.
Or the production team?
A Duluth pill, is it me?
Also, I'm not here for Angelasaying that Portia has three
brain cells.
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I love a good read, but callingsomeone dumb is beneath Angela
and I feel like she could havebeen craftier.
I don't know what's happeningwith her.
Her I don't know if, like whenshe started the show, she was
like I'm going to be myself.
And then she got into filmingand was like, oh, this takes
something else.
And now she's listened to thesegirls making fun of her nose.
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Maybe she did not listen tothem making fun of her nose,
maybe it was something that shealways wanted to get done, but
has plumped the nose up and nowshe's like I don't know, she's
acting acting like an urchin.
She's not acting like how shehas been, like cool, calm,
collected, rise above.
But I guess we'll see um, andthen angela talking about how
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she was feeling apologetic, likeshe felt bad and um, apologetic
and didn't want to hurt Portia,but I miss the apology.
Uh, I did see her reaction forbeing attacked.
I didn't think that she wasfeeling apologetic at all.
I think that's some bullshitthat she's now made up after
watching the screener they senther.
(40:00):
So this is what she's going tosay for the after show Sounds
like some bullshit to me Talkingabout Portia and how she feels
about Drew filming with Dennisand that it felt like a pile on.
I started cracking up whenCynthia said Portia was hotter
than fish grease.
(40:20):
I've heard this before but it'sreally funny coming from
cynthia.
Um, and like I said, like itmust have been really hard for
portia to have had, uh, to havebeen on the phone with dennis
and pilar and everything's allgood, and then get a call from
someone saying, yeah, hey,dennis has been filming with
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drew.
Like, did you know?
That would have pissed me offtoo.
Um, and, like I said, I'm sureit just brings up all the stuff
from um, how their relationshipended, trust, like not how their
relationship ended.
I'm just saying, like the trustaspect of it.
I don't think that she isinterested in um getting back
(41:01):
with, uh, hotdog King.
I don't think that that's it atall.
Um, but yeah, then to have tosit there and look at Drew like
I.
Just I give her credit for justkeeping her composure, albeit
slightly immature, uh, thesullen teenager of it all, but I
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I think that she kept prettychill, considering the situation
, um, and then I didn't likethat Cynthia was explaining to
drew why Portia was really upset.
I just feel like she could haveworded it differently, because
the way that she says it it waslike she was mad that portia was
(41:46):
mad at dennis, um and drew.
Like that portia was mad atdrew, but portia clearly says
that she's mad at dennis anddennis is gonna get all the
smoke because dennis is the onewho owes her something.
I feel like she should havesaid that straight up.
Drew talking about how she'strying to advance her career
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Girl, no one is mad that you are.
I'm going to say this becauseyou can't see me air quotes
advancing your career.
I think you're purposelymissing the point here.
So what I'm going to need isfor Portia to do an album with
Ralph and see how Drew reactsand put it all on the show.
Maybe next season.
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Drew's just her attitude, likemaybe if she took a scintilla of
accountability here.
Because if it was like if itwas Ralph.
Like girl, please, the way thatyou're reacting to things that
are happening with Ralph.
Now I know that you would bepissed.
Portia clearly states what herissue is with Dennis and that
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her issue is not with Drew.
This is so annoying because Ican talk to the TV as much as I
want but they can't hear me.
Now they can hear me when I'mtrying to tell them.
Like Drew, lock it up.
I wish I could shake her in apolite, stern way.
Um, and I'm really glad thatcynthia um got to ask the ralph
(43:13):
question to drew um.
But fool asked, drew, there's adifference between filming on
your show and hanging out withsomeone off camera where no
checks are involved.
I am also glad that Cynthiatells her, like girl, there's a
difference here and that shewould never film with Ralph,
even if, for instance, he cameto her and said Cynthia, I want
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to be a supermodel, whichCynthia says he could do because
he's an attractive man.
I guess girl Um, but Cynthia isjust like I would feel very
uncomfortable dealing with himoutside of you because for
Cynthia it's a respect thingwhich Drew doesn't have.
Any of that or common sense,and so I guess she'll never get
it.
Maybe at the reunion she'll getit, maybe in an episode coming
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up she'll get it.
Maybe Phaedra will help her getit, I don't know.
Um, and it was funny becauseDrew takes a breath to try to
respond to Cynthia, but Cynthiakeeps talking and I'm glad that
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she talked about it and she wasfine with her working with
Dennis.
Okay, that's different.
Fine with her working, fine,portia being fine with Drew
working with Dennis.
Okay, filming is a differentthing.
Like you're not, that's theissue.
The filming is the issue, notyou and your new album with
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Dennis.
That is not the issue, it's thefilming.
I don't know how many languagesDrew needs to hear that in.
I hope that you will understandone day.
And then Drew acting like thisis all Portia just wanting to
get that like to circle theblock You're reaching.
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Portia was extra to get thatlike to circle the block you're
reaching.
Portia was extra sensitive andacting like a baby and that's
because she had a lot on herplate with the divorce already.
Like, that's it, that's all.
Um, it was cool to hear thegirls talk about the fun that
they had outside of the drama.
Like, basically, they onlyshowed the riding the bull and
then the whiskey tasting and theum coyote ugly class, because
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everything else was dramatic andwild, um, but yeah, so I, I,
really I like this episode.
I'm looking forward to the nextepisode.
I'm looking forward to the restof the season.
This has been a fire season.
I was really worried whenhearing that Kenya had left and
then they were bringing theyended up bringing Phaedra in
later on that this season wasgoing to be just dry and dull,
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and it definitely has not beenfor even a moment.
And, like I said, phaedrahasn't even shown up yet.
So, yeah, I'm really lookingforward to the rest of the
season.
I love it.
That's it.
Super excited to talk aboutthis again next week.
Hope you have a great week.
I'll be back at some point thisweek to talk about the Valley
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and, yeah, keep listening.
Hello again.
We are back at the drama desk.
I am your host, taylorCarter-Jones, and we're in
Nashville, day two.
Let's get into it.
So we're in Nashville, day twoand we're opening up with
Shamia's country song, portia'sBirthday Karaoke, fun Time
(00:23):
Sing--along, which is a reallylong title, but I guess.
So my question after watchingthis was did shamia write this
during the trip or just for aconfessional?
Did they like show her apackage during the confessional?
And they were like okay, shamia, you're now um an r&b recording
artist, we're going to need youto drop a track.
(00:47):
This was really silly, but Iguess.
So it's basically just checkingin on everyone.
They're having their phonecalls with family Britt's on the
phone with Benzino and talkingabout how she's guarded toward
Angela.
Okay, girl, shamia calls homefor the kid's doctor's
(01:11):
appointment.
I think it was Shiloh Um, andthis made me upset, because I
understand that she has a greathusband in Gerald.
That's wonderful, but for herto say that he's been so
supportive and there for her andthe kids, so she has to give
(01:33):
him um another child, um the sonthat he wants, what Like, what
that's so antiquated like it'shis job to be there, um for her
and take care of her and thekids, like that's what your
partner does, and when youdecided that you wanted to have
children, um, it's his job to bea dad.
(01:56):
So, yeah, I would have maybegotten behind if she was like I
know he wants a son and I do too, so let's do it Like, not I
have to, but okay, that's fine.
Cynthia and Angela are at thepool and they're talking about
(02:17):
how Angela is loyal to Drew.
But I don't know, my loyalty toa friend has never had me
invite said friend to a partythat that friend wasn't invited
to, because that's just rude.
However, this is a show, solet's like, fine, we're good.
And then Cynthia show.
I mean not Cynthia.
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Drew shows up and yeah, she'stalking about giving an olive
branch.
I don't know where her olivebranch is, but yeah, because
(03:05):
this whole time she's been alittle combative anytime that
she and Portra have had adiscussion about the issue at
hand, which is Dennis filmingwith Drew, and yeah, like Drew,
come on, what is wrong with you,girl?
She doesn't want you filmingwith her husband.
It's that simple.
Like, just don't, you can stillwork with him.
Go ahead, work with him, butjust don't film with him.
Duh, obviously, she was neverPortia's actual friend, but
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that's besides the point.
So we're going on our little daytrip where we split um
activities famous on housewives.
So we've got whiskey tastingand bartending.
So right now the ladies arejust having their little
pre-drink.
We get to see everybody comedown in their outfits.
(03:46):
Everyone is coming down inblack.
Okay, different black outfits,minus Angela.
She must have forgotten whatthe dress code for the day was.
Or we're having Angela stickout because she's the odd man
out.
I don't know.
You choose, you decide.
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But yeah, when in doubt,pasties out Kelly.
I didn't notice until they'dgotten back from the trip not
back from the Nashville trip,but back from the whiskey
tasting slash bartending.
That not only does Kellykelly's naked, but go off, sis,
(04:27):
she looks great.
I love kelly.
Uh, she can do no wrong.
I think that they're hilarious.
Um, and in the after show shetalks about how this is a new
era for housewives, like theball gowns just aren't going to
cut it anymore.
There you are.
That's certainly not about noton the opposite spectrum of ball
gown.
Yeah, so I live for that.
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Shamia and Portia are chattingin Portia's room.
Now if you want to get realfucked up, let me let you know,
take a shot every time you heara housewife say gaslighting.
I think they might've said itlike six times in their brief
conversation.
It was like a 30 second clip ofthe two of them talking.
I just I with gaslighting.
(05:10):
I need someone to put up adefinition of gaslighting, cause
I feel like it changes from umepisode to episode, from uh
housewife to housewife.
So I need them to subtitle thatevery time, please.
Um, then we're on the sprinterwhere we're gonna separate, and
(05:33):
I thought this was interesting.
I don't know like, and maybewe're like getting to know
shamia again, and that's whythis was included, because it
seemed kind of random.
Um, she got a text message fromsomeone who I guess didn't
believe her when she was tellingfriends at the time that her
previous spouse was physicallyabusive.
This person didn't believe herand they happened to send her a
(05:55):
text whilst on this sprinter.
So then we had a moment talkingand talking about um, the video
that candy did um about, Iguess, um awareness video.
I'm not, I don't quite remember.
So sorry, um, and I know thisis serious.
I'm not trying to make light,but I don't remember what the
(06:17):
video was.
I don't want to say the wrongthing, um, but then cynthia's
talking about her mom and we geta clip of that portion of the
candy video.
But yeah, again, I don't, I'mnot quite sure why this came up,
but yeah, so we're splitting up, uh, coyote ugly.
Bartending is porsche, shamiaand kelly, and then we've got
(06:41):
whiskey tasting with angela,cynthia, brit and drew, which is
hilarious how they split upconsidering the past few
episodes, events.
The Coyote Ugly of it all wassuper cute.
I really enjoyed that.
They were really funny.
I don't know if I could do whatthey did with those shop
(07:02):
glasses, but, yeah, go off girls.
This was an advertisement, Isuppose.
Also just fun, I would haveloved to do that.
The whiskey tasting yeah, thatlooked so.
After the whiskey tasting andbartending, portia is talking
(07:23):
about how her friends areactually mutual friends, uh,
with Drew, and we're genuinelysurprised by Drew not being
there, which to me, I don't know.
I don't know how I feel aboutthat.
If I have friends and we have amutual friend that I'm not
getting along with and I knowthat we're all going to be in
the same place, at least myclosest friend in that group is
(07:45):
going to know we have a littleissue.
Somebody is going to know I'mnot going in there saying
nothing.
That's crazy.
I don't know how I feel aboutthat.
I think that at least one ofthem knew At least I can't
remember her name, but itstarted with a P the girl who
said something in the lastepisode when they were at the
(08:09):
dinner table about Drew giving ablowjob.
Obviously she knew what wasgoing on, otherwise she wouldn't
have said that.
That seems like something oneof my girlfriends would have
said, knowing I was mad.
And maybe she's not that closewith Drew, maybe she's just
Portia's friend.
But, come on, nobody just saysthat they showed the friend
saying it like whatever.
(08:32):
Shamia spilled some tea aboutAngela thinking Kelly was
talking smack about her, andthen production does a what
Angela really said clip and Idied because it wasn't exactly
how Shamia was making it out tobe.
Um, but yeah, portia thinksangela's setting drew up.
(08:52):
I don't think that she's doingthat.
I just think that she misfiredwith this trying to get portia
and drew to be friendly again.
I think that she was trying tohave her Angela moment and but
not in a not in as high key of away that Brit was trying, has
(09:16):
been trying to have severalmoments since episode one.
So Brit lets Angela know thatshe plays the victim, um, so
that you're not confused.
Brit is letting angela know thatangela plays the victim and
(09:36):
then brings it back to britwanting empathy, um, at the
brunch.
And then she didn't get that.
And I roll because, brit, youare like the first lady of
victimville, like seriously, youare continuously playing victim
, not taking any accountability.
Do I think I'll say this untilI'm blue in the face?
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I don't think what kenya didwas right.
I don't think what brit did wasright, and I've not seen Brit
say anything other than that,like the immediate episode after
, where she's laying it on thickabout how she shouldn't have
said that.
I don't think that she meant it.
(10:17):
I think that now she was tryingto save face and that she has
this opportunity to gainattention from being the victim
in the Kenya poster scandal, ofit all.
But it's just, it's not workingfor me.
It's making me like Brit less.
(10:38):
Yeah, I appreciate Cynthiabeing the voice of reason, as
always, queen Cynthia sayingthat it's fine that Brit needs
empathy and it's fine to giveher said empathy, but it's also
okay to miss Kenya.
Why would they not try to goand maybe not reconcile, but at
(11:12):
least talk to her, see where herhead's at in the moment, see
where her head was at when shedid what she did.
Like would she think that theywere all going to drop her, drop
Kenya, and just be friends withBrit, this girl they had only
just met.
No, that's not, that's notrealistic.
I even show, or no show, likethat's just not realistic.
You're the new friend, new, noteven really friend.
So, please, I don't know if Ican continue on every episode
(11:36):
talking about this.
Um, I know that it's episodeeight, but god, it's been months
.
Why, why, why are we stilltalking about the Brit and Kenya
thing?
Like, let it go, let it go, I'mdone, I'm bored.
Um, we find out that Cynthiakilled a bottle of whiskey and
she still has her wits about her.
So go off, cynthia, that's it.
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I love her, I love Cynthia.
That's all I have to say aboutthat.
Uh, then we've got cowboydinner.
So cynthia, brit drew shamia,they all come down.
And then kelly comes down andis wearing a cow skin rug.
I think it's fantastic.
Go off.
(12:18):
I, like I said, I love kelly, Ilove this cow skin rug.
I want to know, know where Ican get it and drape it around
me.
But Shemya checks in and wefind out that right, oh, I
skipped ahead.
Portia comes down noticeablyupset, like we all.
(12:39):
It's kind of giving.
Ask me why I'm mad.
It's kind of giving.
Ask me why I'm mad she's notdressed in the cowgirl setup
that she had on while she wastalking to PJ and Dennis, who
was laid up in the bed lookingcrazy.
(13:00):
Find out that right after thecall with Dennis and Pilar, an
unnamed individual called Portiato let her know that Dennis has
indeed been filming with Drew,after Portia's very emotional
talk with Dennis at that kid'splay zone situation and after
another talk that she had withhim two months ago.
(13:23):
So I get why she's mad.
I would be mad too and I lovePortia.
But coming down now you're justdressed in all black like you're
going to a funeral.
This is supposed to be yourbirthday cowboy dinner and you
were all cute in your littlewhite cream cowgirl outfit and
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cowgirl hat.
Now you're in depression modeand visibly irritated, visibly
upset.
If you were that upset, I don'tknow, maybe instead call it off
, say you're not coming powerthrough, but to come downstairs
(14:04):
like that and then just look sad, like I said, like it's giving
please ask me what's wrong.
And I didn't like that, like Idon't know.
I feel like porsche is betterthan that, but whatever.
Um, then production of courseshows the conversation two
months ago of that porsche anddennis had in the car and like
(14:26):
it's kind of hot mic moment, uh.
And then eight days later ashot of dennis filming in the
studio with drew.
Like it's very annoying, dennisneeds a slap.
But yeah, then we get blake.
The line dance instructor whocomes out, introduces these
hot-bodied cowboys and drew saidnone of them are hot.
(14:48):
Um, okay, drew, I didn't reallylook at their faces, but I feel
like drew was just sayingsomething for the sake of being
contrary to the situation,because it was portia's
situation.
So shemia said angela is doingthe wobble and kelly is looking
(15:08):
like a troll.
When they're doing these linedances, not everyone can dance.
Like, give them a break, shemia, just because you're good at
everything.
Um, girls now sit down for thedinner and they're again asking.
Well, now they're asking portiawhat's wrong.
She just just said she tooksome medication.
I don't know.
Every time I take NyQuil I'vebeen dressed in all black and
(15:29):
look kind of sad myself, youdon't.
So Britt is now talking aboutwhat was resolved Nothing was
resolved at the whiskey tastingbut asks angela to explain what
was resolved.
Why, like girl, just just sayit.
(15:50):
Um, and so angela startstalking about how sometimes she
can come across as the victimand then trails off and says
well, actually I don't know howI come across as the victim.
Angela's really gonna pretend.
This is why brit should havejust explained what she thought,
so then angela could have justshaken her head, yes, and said,
yeah, that is what happened.
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Um, shamiya, then let's, forshamiya loves to um, move things
along.
Right, she's that person thisseason, this cast um, who is
moving storyline and busting inwith what needs to be said.
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She did this in the firstepisode too, when they were all
sitting around together up in Iguess it was her bedroom, right?
Yeah, so Shamia lets Angelaknow that Portia thought that
she was gaslighting her, andwhen angela asks how, portia
says uh, portia says she doesn'tremember and she's looking like
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the calm before the storm.
I know that she doesn't want toget into it and I can
appreciate that, because oldportia, honey, angela's claiming
portia never told her Drewwasn't invited, which we all saw
the clip in the last episodeand in this episode of the zoom
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call that they had, where Drewwasn't there.
Hello, and then angela startstalking about how well she
didn't know that drew justdidn't miss the call.
Um, which it's very frustratingbecause angela is a smart woman
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and she's playing dumb.
Like I expect that from drew, Idon't expect that from angela.
It seems like she is takingthis turn from where she started
and um, like what it seemed shewas doing on the show, like who
she was going to be.
Now she's doing this new thingand I don't know how I feel
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about it.
But we'll keep.
I'll keep watching and keepseeing if things change.
I don't like this currentAngela right now, but whatever.
Then Angela points out thatshe's the only one who's being
held accountable, which makes nosense, and then she explains
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that Kelly asked the questioninitially.
Did you get the answer youwanted, talking about kelly
asking in episode one um, didyou steal that woman's man girl?
What that's?
Apples and oranges you'redeflecting right now because
drew has just said she didn'tmiss the call, which I said was
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angela's claim, and that shewasn't invited to the call.
So Angela would have known that.
Let's be real.
The jig is up.
Why are you now deflecting toPortia?
This is a different situation.
What?
And Portia and Kelly have hadtheir conversation and we've
moved on.
So just be in the moment, girls.
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I didn't expect this deflectioneither from Angela.
This is not, I don't know.
It's weird.
I don't like this angle she'staking now.
So Angela says she's notdeflecting and Portia needs to
be accountable and the worldwants to know if she stole that
man.
To which cynthia I cannotexpress how much I love her says
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I think that we should move on,which I completely agree.
Um, because portia looks likeshe's about to start hooking off
in a moment.
Uh, cynthia already got into aphysical altercation with Portia
on that boat.
She knows the pop-off potentialthat's there.
So she then asks Portia if shewants to answer Angela's
question or just move on, andPortia says she'd like Angela to
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kiss her ass, which I agree.
I would want Angela to do thattoo, because now you've brought
up a whole other thing.
We're talking about this onething that is already bothering
Portia Drew coming there.
She has expressed several manytimes that she did not want Drew
there when you asked, when youtold her, when you guys were
already there if Drew could come, or that you had invited Drew.
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I think that she handled itpretty graciously and Angela,
you're poking the bear prettygraciously.
And Angela, you're poking thebear.
I would have told her to kissmy ass too.
You're on my trip, production'strip, but my trip and you're
acting the damn fool.
You're too old for this, notageism, but you're just too old.
They're all too old for this.
This is stupid.
Why are you behaving this way?
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Drew is not your friend justbecause you're from the same
city.
Stop.
Y'all weren't friends beforethis.
You didn't know that Drew wasrelated to Michael Jordan.
If my friend was related toMichael Jordan, I would know.
I know that Drew is not reallyrelated and we talked about this
, but I'm just saying Portia isjust way too calm.
It's kind of scary.
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And this is when Kelly pretendsthat she needs to go to the
bathroom and I think that she'sreally looking for her security
detail just to make sure they'reclose by in case of emergency
and Drew decides.
Drew says Demis is stumped.
This is a moment to address theelephant in the Um.
I just can't.
She says happy birthday toPortia and asks if she's good
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with her being there because sheknows, um, even if Angela does
not, that she wasn't invited.
And Portia says flatly, youstraight.
And I, I died.
I can't wait to be mad atsomeone enough, like beyond mad,
fuming, infuriated, and onlygive them a you straight as an
answer if they ask me if I'm madat them.
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The composure, I love it.
Portia's my girl.
I will not tell you that she'sright all the time, because
she's not, but because I'vealready said, I think, that
coming down with the all blackand pout mouth was a lot, but
she could have gone off and shedidn't.
She stays really calm and Iappreciate that.
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Um.
So now drew is in a half,discusses her alleged olive
branch of a birthday whiskeybottle and says that she's
leaving because at this pointshe's extended an olive tree
which I haven't seen a single.
I haven't seen a leaf, letalone a damn branch.
So drew is definitely my leastfavorite.
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Let me just put that other.
Um.
Everyone's telling her to stay,of course, because that's what
we do when people storm off fromthe table.
Drew's not going anywhere.
We find out later.
She just went upstairs, butthat's fine.
Drew asks if anyone has anyother issues with her and then
Kelly just asks for some fishbecause she's trying to change
the subject.
I think we are past that point.
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Bye, drew.
Cynthia asks Portia if she wantsDrew to leave and she says I'm
not a mean girl, I haven't beenmean to her all day, which is
totally true.
She greeted her kindly when sheshowed up and she just hadn't
been giving Drew any flack allday.
She was kind of paying her dust, but not in a rude way.
She just said hey, welcome andlet it go.
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Unless we missed something,something.
Um, unless we missed somethinglike truly, even when Portia
came to the dinner post phonecall, um, she very well could
have gone off and it wouldn'thave been a shock, but she
didn't.
So I love that.
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She says this is, this one ison whatever.
She's on, talking about Angelain front of Angela and then says
with Drew, she's just very intodramatics, talking about quote,
unquote, air quotes.
She puts up let's address theelephant in the room.
I thought that that was reallyfunny that she did that and
Portia was right, like it wasn'tnecessary, unnecessary, uh, and
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if drew really wanted toapologize or mend fences, it
definitely could have been donedifferently, um, or or privately
, no one insulted or attackedher.
She's crazy, um.
So then we leave dinner andcynthia goes to porsche's room,
where porsche fills her in onthe call without really telling
her, um, and takes her lashesoff and pretends to pull off her
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wig, saying that she's breakingdown which I'm laughing.
It's not funny, but she made itfunny.
Cynthia agrees that what'shappening wouldn't be okay with
her, which we know because itwouldn't be okay with most other
human beings and Portia thensays that Dennis is the one that
she's mad at, because he madean agreement with her about how
they'd work together and Drewdidn't.
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Drew doesn't owe her anything,but Dennis is the father of her
child and they will be familyforever and he needs to respect
her wishes, because this is hershow, not her show.
This is the Portia show, butthis is Portia's thing.
Be not her show like this isthe porsche show, but this is
porsche's thing, it's not histhing, and I feel like he's
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encroaching.
Go get a hot dog reality show.
Stop these games, idiot.
Um.
So everyone's at the poolpartying, except for angela, and
then we get the morning afterthe pool's a hot mess.
Um, kelly and brit are in thebed bedroom.
I call it because there's likeeight beds and somehow they
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ended up in the bed togetherinstead of like, except but I
digress angela was recordingthem.
Apparently brit says she heardthat angela was recording them.
Apparently Britt says she heardthat Angela was recording them.
How did you hear that, britt?
Through production.
Then Angela is talking to aproducer who we see their oh my
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gosh closed caption when shetells them last night she heard
some things she wished shedidn't hear.
Angela's on the phone withcharles at 2 30 in the morning,
which I don't know.
That's weird for me.
But however you sleep, maybehe's a vampire.
Um, and it shook to hear hername mentioned outside.
Allegedly portia spilled hertruth and was talking about how
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angela dresses and talking aboutcharles, and then I guess
portia threatened um to sleepwith charles or try to sleep
with charles.
Um, so yeah, this is why angelais recording.
And then when you cut to thevideo clip of her recording,
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there's no sound and you can'tsee really anything other than
them standing there like I don'tknow what her video is supposed
to be proving.
But okay, angela, it was superfunny when portia said that she
didn't remember anything becausethe henny had took over.
Okay, she don't remember.
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Maybe she, she does, maybe shedoesn't, but she's claiming
Henny and that's that and that'sfine.
So then when they go to Brit, uh, old, loose lips, mcgee she is,
she does remember.
And she's talking about howShamia said Charles was sleeping
over town, all over town.
So it's like, okay, angela isabout to be real mad at portia,
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but portia wasn't the only onesaying stuff, so what?
I know that she made thecomment about sleeping with
charles, but whatever.
Um, and then kelly says thatshe remembers portia saying she
better stop before I fuck herhusband.
So I now know, don't bring ke,kelly or Brit to a crime,
because they are going to singlike canaries.
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Afterward, angela says shebetter listen because Portia
will fuck your husband, ashistory shows, which, okay,
angela, it was one time.
It might've been two if we gobackwards, but I didn't do my
research into that otheroccasion, so I only know the
fallon thing.
So, whatever, and look, itdidn't work out for portia.
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So look, maybe that's her karma.
So shut up angela.
Um, kelly goes to say goodmorning to angela and she's
obviously pissed and it'stelling Kelly that she's not
with the fakeness and Kellydoesn't understand what she's
talking about.
Angela has been attacked andattacked.
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She says and she walked in,grown and is going to leave,
grown too, and she's had it.
The buck stops here with BS andapparently everyone but Drew is
a puppet to Portia.
I'm excited for the next fewepisodes to see how this plays
out, because I I can't, um, Idon't know, I'm still team
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Portia.
I can't even imagine what she'sbeen going through with crazy
Simon and him not allowing herto film in the house and um
serving her with a cease anddesist, not letting her show how
she's dealing with the divorceof it all, because she did show
that with Cordell Um, if y'allremember, he didn't have any
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orders, gag orders not allowingher to talk about what she was
going through.
So I feel like she can't giveas much storyline as she
normally would.
And what does it have to dowith anything?
I don't.
It has to do with the fact that, look, I feel like porsche's
having a hard time.
Give her a damn break, that'sit, um.
And then he's all over theinternet, simon, trying to drag
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porsche.
And then you have dennis, whoyou think is your support um,
going behind your back afterhe's agreed that he would do
this, which I'm sure jogs up abunch of other issues.
I don't remember why theydidn't work out, but I'm pretty
sure it was because he wascheating.
So now it's like okay, you didthat and I have figured out a
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way back to trusting you, atleast as far as our daughter is
concerned.
And now we've made an agreementthat has nothing to do with us
romantically and you broke theagreement.
So how am I supposed to trustyou?
Their daughter is like under 10.
They have many years left.
This has got to be a lot.
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Give Portia a damn break.
Leave Portia alone.
Leave Portia alone.
So on the next episode I guessthere's a puppy event Angela's
spilling the tea to Charlesabout what Portia said and he
looks confused.
So we'll see if that's just howthat clip was made or what if
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he's really confused.
Dennis said Drew isn't evensigned to him anymore and she
tried to sleep with him.
And he makes that shocked.
Push myself back face whenportia because portia is the one
who says didn't you saysomething to the effect of like,
didn't you say that you triedto sleep with you?
So now this is gonna be a wholenew monster.
Um, yeah, cynthia's doing theBailey cue.
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I cannot wait.
I cannot wait to find out, like, who has what mileage on their
mouths is the last thing thatthey said, which I think is
extremely funny.
After show too and I normallydon't, but I wanted to see what,
like where we're at temp checkon the gals when they show
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shamia and kelly.
Kelly's chest had me confusedas to where her gold necklace
stopped and where her skin began.
She was shining.
She looks like an academy award, a golden globe.
Are those the same?
If they are, she looked goldand shiny.
So that's what I meant aboutthat.
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Um, and then they've gotporsche and brit sitting
together, which I don't likebecause of the past beef between
porsche and kenya.
I feel like that's gonna like.
I don't know that could stirshit up and I don't like that at
all because I really liked thatporsche and Kenya were getting
along.
I want them to be friends.
I'm hoping that Kenya comesback next season and they get
rid of Brit, but that's my justmy dream, so we'll see.
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I love Portia's outfit with thesnake climbing up.
I think the pants could havebeen different, but I'm not a
fashionista, so what do I know?
Her cups stay running overAngela.
Cynthia and Drew are the otherpairing.
I hate Drew's outfit.
You look ridiculous.
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Cynthia's hair is giving, asalways and, dear Angela, yes,
wig.
That wig is tight.
I'm glad that she's got the newglue going.
Shamia starts talking about howshe wouldn't invite anyone to
not her birthday party, but justlike hello.
I feel like I said that 20minutes ago.
Um, like, why, where do they dothat?
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Take away the fact that we'reon a reality show and the
audience wants drama.
No one does that.
Then they show a clip of angelasaying she's missing her
Chicago partner on the Zoom.
And this is when Portiacomments on Angela asking her on
the Zoom if she was invitingDrew, to which Portia said it
seems like you're the only onewho is on mute.
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Like I can't hear you.
Like, to me, that's obvious.
No, she's not invited, she'snot there.
Like, stop it.
To me that's obvious.
No, she's not invited, she'snot there.
Like, stop it.
Angela saying inviting Drew wasjust shits and giggles is a real
reach.
Like it wasn't shits andgiggles because you invited a
whole human who Portia didn'twant there.
Where's the giggles, where'sthe shits?
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I'll wait.
Britt then comes with a fire.
She stays piped up up.
I just can't talk about.
It was unnecessary.
Brit is too much.
I I don't like her either, butwe all know this, um, and I also
realize if I didn't realizebefore that drew owns a home on
delusional island.
I don't understand how she afelt so unwelcome the whole time
that she was there, because,again, I'm repeating myself, but
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this is because I watched theafter show and I didn't put
everything together.
Portia welcomed her kindly andthen went to the whiskey tasting
Like.
The only time she even had anattitude was after the dentist
call later in the evening, andthat was, yeah, about Drew, but
more so about Dennis, and shewasn't on camera being nasty to
drew.
Maybe something got left on thecutting room floor that we
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didn't see.
From what we did see, um, drewsounds like she's playing the
victim, which is pretty par forher course.
Um and I and how did you notthink the situation with you and
portia was that deep?
Like it had been eight episodes, and each time this comes up
it's very clear it's deep.
It hasn't been resolved, soit's deep.
She calls you a low down, dirtybitch.
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It's deep.
You don't just say that forfunsies like you were friends
and now you're not.
That that is deep to me.
If y'all were real, real goodjudys, hello and hello.
And now she hates you.
She's not talking, she's notfucking with you at all.
She kills me, like she alwaysplays this game like I don't get
it.
I don't get it, she does.
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She is delusional as fuck, likethat's a given.
But I don't think that she'sdumb.
I think that this is all a gameand people have called her out
on this on and off the showsince she started the show.
Um, and angela felt the issuewas minimal, but it's, it's not.
Obviously portia was big mad,that's how she felt.
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You can't say we can't tellpeople how to feel in one breath
, talking about brit being sad,about everyone flocking to kenya
instead of licking her wounds,and then invalidate porsche's
feelings like also girl, how didyou think anyone moved on when
you asked porsche about drew onthis?
Oh, it was clear porsche hadn'tmoved on.
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Is it a chicago thing?
Is the delusion a chicago thing?
People from chicago, let meknow, are y'all delusional?
Because if not, then that's notan excuse and it by angela by,
like for you to say that youthought that you could fix this.
Um, you're moving in a way thatwas not miss fix it.
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As far as their issue.
And I disagree that portia, uh,with portia that she was
stirring the pot like I.
I don't think that, ang, shewas stirring the pot like I
don't think that Angela wasstirring the pot.
I just I do agree, wrong place,uh, wrong time to lay your
issues out.
Um, when she brought up Drewcoming in front of Portia and
Drew's mutual friends, but yeah,like you could have waited
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until next week when it wasn'tPortia's birthday, like there
was still a whole season thatyou could have brought this up,
but you chose porsche's birthdayto do it and that is why I
think that angela was trying tohave a moment, because otherwise
you wouldn't have done thisduring porsche's birthday trip.
But whatever, and as I saidbefore, like I really I'm not
sure if I believe that Portia'sfriends knew 0% about this, but
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I won't go into that againbecause I already talked about
it.
Britt is hyping Portia upbecause, again, I do think
Angela inviting Drew is messyboots down.
However, I don't think she wasfanning a fire or trying to
expose anything at the dinnernight one with Portia's friends,
and I don't know when they filmthese after shows, right, but I
am assuming it's like duringthe airing of the show, when
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screeners are being sent inadvance to the cast and they're
watching confessionals andscenes, getting them fired up
from the lull of post-productionif they were ever unfired up.
I know we're only on episodeeight, but this reunion is going
to be spicy, like I alreadyfeel it.
And I know Kenya got only onepisode eight.
But this reunion is going to bespicy, like I already feel it.
And I know Kenya got disinvited, but I still think the
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remaining cast is going to be agreat reunion, and Feifei hasn't
even entered the chat.
This is going to be such a goodreunion.
I can't wait.
I hope that they don't let medown.
Yeah, down, yeah.
So Drew can't say that she feltset up.
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Drew also has no other friendshere.
Cynthia doesn't count becauseshe's a friend to all.
Drew can't really be mad aboutthe bunk bed because, like, only
three rooms were decent in thathouse.
The other rooms were kind oftrash, so it was what it was.
You knew you weren't going toget one of the other rooms were
kind of trash, so it was what itwas.
You knew you weren't going toget one of the best rooms, so
stop it.
You weren't even invited to thetrip.
Lucky that they had a place foryou to sleep.
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Um, when the producer shouts outto portia, let's talk about
angela inviting drew, I I'm likewait, what?
This is what we've been talkingabout this whole time.
Did, did, drew, slip me.
Or the production team?
A Duluth pill, is it me?
Also, I'm not here for Angelasaying that Portia has three
brain cells.
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I love a good read, but callingsomeone dumb is beneath Angela
and I feel like she could havebeen craftier.
I don't know what's happeningwith her.
Her I don't know if, like whenshe started the show, she was
like I'm going to be myself.
And then she got into filmingand was like, oh, this takes
something else.
And now she's listened to thesegirls making fun of her nose.
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Maybe she did not listen tothem making fun of her nose,
maybe it was something that shealways wanted to get done, but
has plumped the nose up and nowshe's like I don't know, she's
acting acting like an urchin.
She's not acting like how shehas been, like cool, calm,
collected, rise above.
But I guess we'll see um, andthen angela talking about how
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she was feeling apologetic, likeshe felt bad and um, apologetic
and didn't want to hurt Portia,but I miss the apology.
Uh, I did see her reaction forbeing attacked.
I didn't think that she wasfeeling apologetic at all.
I think that's some bullshitthat she's now made up after
watching the screener they senther.
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So this is what she's going tosay for the after show Sounds
like some bullshit to me Talkingabout Portia and how she feels
about Drew filming with Dennisand that it felt like a pile on.
I started cracking up whenCynthia said Portia was hotter
than fish grease.
(40:20):
I've heard this before but it'sreally funny coming from
cynthia.
Um, and like I said, like itmust have been really hard for
portia to have had, uh, to havebeen on the phone with dennis
and pilar and everything's allgood, and then get a call from
someone saying, yeah, hey,dennis has been filming with
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drew.
Like, did you know?
That would have pissed me offtoo.
Um, and, like I said, I'm sureit just brings up all the stuff
from um, how their relationshipended, trust, like not how their
relationship ended.
I'm just saying, like the trustaspect of it.
I don't think that she isinterested in um getting back
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with, uh, hotdog King.
I don't think that that's it atall.
Um, but yeah, then to have tosit there and look at Drew like
I.
Just I give her credit for justkeeping her composure, albeit
slightly immature, uh, thesullen teenager of it all, but I
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I think that she kept prettychill, considering the situation
, um, and then I didn't likethat Cynthia was explaining to
drew why Portia was really upset.
I just feel like she could haveworded it differently, because
the way that she says it it waslike she was mad that portia was
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mad at dennis, um and drew.
Like that portia was mad atdrew, but portia clearly says
that she's mad at dennis anddennis is gonna get all the
smoke because dennis is the onewho owes her something.
I feel like she should havesaid that straight up.
Drew talking about how she'strying to advance her career
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Girl, no one is mad that you are.
I'm going to say this becauseyou can't see me air quotes
advancing your career.
I think you're purposelymissing the point here.
So what I'm going to need isfor Portia to do an album with
Ralph and see how Drew reactsand put it all on the show.
Maybe next season.
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Drew's just her attitude, likemaybe if she took a scintilla of
accountability here.
Because if it was like if itwas Ralph.
Like girl, please, the way thatyou're reacting to things that
are happening with Ralph.
Now I know that you would bepissed.
Portia clearly states what herissue is with Dennis and that
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her issue is not with Drew.
This is so annoying because Ican talk to the TV as much as I
want but they can't hear me.
Now they can hear me when I'mtrying to tell them.
Like Drew, lock it up.
I wish I could shake her in apolite, stern way.
Um, and I'm really glad thatcynthia um got to ask the ralph
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question to drew um.
But fool asked, drew, there's adifference between filming on
your show and hanging out withsomeone off camera where no
checks are involved.
I am also glad that Cynthiatells her, like girl, there's a
difference here and that shewould never film with Ralph,
even if, for instance, he cameto her and said Cynthia, I want
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to be a supermodel, whichCynthia says he could do because
he's an attractive man.
I guess girl Um, but Cynthia isjust like I would feel very
uncomfortable dealing with himoutside of you because for
Cynthia it's a respect thingwhich Drew doesn't have.
Any of that or common sense,and so I guess she'll never get
it.
Maybe at the reunion she'll getit, maybe in an episode coming
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up she'll get it.
Maybe Phaedra will help her getit, I don't know.
Um, and it was funny becauseDrew takes a breath to try to
respond to Cynthia, but Cynthiakeeps talking and I'm glad that
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she talked about it and she wasfine with her working with
Dennis.
Okay, that's different.
Fine with her working, fine,portia being fine with Drew
working with Dennis.
Okay, filming is a differentthing.
Like you're not, that's theissue.
The filming is the issue, notyou and your new album with
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Dennis.
That is not the issue, it's thefilming.
I don't know how many languagesDrew needs to hear that in.
I hope that you will understandone day.
And then Drew acting like thisis all Portia just wanting to
get that like to circle theblock You're reaching.
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Portia was extra to get thatlike to circle the block you're
reaching.
Portia was extra sensitive andacting like a baby and that's
because she had a lot on herplate with the divorce already.
Like, that's it, that's all.
Um, it was cool to hear thegirls talk about the fun that
they had outside of the drama.
Like, basically, they onlyshowed the riding the bull and
then the whiskey tasting and theum coyote ugly class, because
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everything else was dramatic andwild, um, but yeah, so I, I,
really I like this episode.
I'm looking forward to the nextepisode.
I'm looking forward to the restof the season.
This has been a fire season.
I was really worried whenhearing that Kenya had left and
then they were bringing theyended up bringing Phaedra in
later on that this season wasgoing to be just dry and dull,
(45:52):
and it definitely has not beenfor even a moment.
And, like I said, phaedrahasn't even shown up yet.
So, yeah, I'm really lookingforward to the rest of the
season.
I love it.
That's it.
Super excited to talk aboutthis again next week.
Hope you have a great week.
I'll be back at some point thisweek to talk about the Valley
(46:15):
and, yeah, keep listening.
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