HAPPY GILMORE 2 Review, Jeremy Strong as Mark Zuckerberg, RDJ as Doom Past SECRET WARS? + Who's The Lead of AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY?

Episode Rundown:

- 'Happy Gilmore 2' Review

- 'The Social Network: Part II" Castings

- First look at 'The Adventures of Cliff Booth'

- Chris Rock directed A24 movie w/Adam Driver and Daniel Kaluuya

- Eddie Murphy as Inspector Clouseau

- Marvel Report

- 'Avatar: Fire and Ash' Trailer

- 'Eternity' Trailer

Episode Transcript

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This is the Drive In podcast Take One.

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Howdy Doody. Welcome to episode 478 of PDI.
This is Doctor O on the Horn to start per usual and as always
I'm joined by my Co host, my best friend and Co founder of
the Maxi League, Ricky Flicks. How are you my friend?

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Tell me about this league that you formed with Benny Safdie.
Well, it's a shitty league firstand foremost.
Yeah, No. What a terrible, terrible plot.
Like going Yeah, that was that was God awful.
And Benny Safdie knows better. It was amazing when Benny Satter
was doing interviews and I saw him, he's on like The Tonight

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Show. I forgot might may have been
with Colbert or may have been with Fallon.
And I think the host asked him, hey, what did it mean to you?
You gave like Sandler uncut gemsand he gives you this and he was
like playing it off like it was even better than like getting
the role of uncut gems for Sandler, giving it to him.

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And I was just like, dude, like you are responsible for maybe
the most atrocious part of the Happy Gilmore sequel, which
overall was. Pretty atrocious flicks.
I it may definitely I'm not buying it.
Let's just say that. And aren't they doing something
together again, the sports memorabilia?
I don't. I think it's, I think it might

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be Josh Shafty doing that one directing Sandler, but I think
that kind of hit the back burneras like they're promoting
Benny's doing smashing machine, Josh is doing Marty Supreme and
I think that one just hasn't really found legs.
I think maybe that was supposed to be with both of the brothers.
Yeah, because I thought that wassupposed to be with both of
them, but maybe I am misremembering on that, which is

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totally possible. But yeah, no, definitely was
what's it called? Disappointed with Benny Safdie
and that whole Max Maxi league and live inspired though when it
was just terrible, absolutely terrible.
Maybe the worst thing I've seen in movies this year.

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I'll go as ours to say that. It was kind of weird to see
Benny Safdie in that role because like, we kind of were
taking him seriously for a whileas an actor.
Like Oppenheimer, dear God, dearGod, it's me, Margaret Licorice
Pizza. He's like getting pretty good at
these dramatic roles, supportingactor type of roles.

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But I feel like he was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Because how are you going to sayno to Adam Sandler, who starred
in your most prominent movie? And you also have the connection
to this movie to probably his childhood.
He said like this is was what's his favorite movie.
As a kid, he knew what A-Z he could close his eyes and recite
the entire script. It's impossible to say no.
So it kind of goes against wherehe's been going with his career.

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But as a kid, if you were offered to be the villain in a
Happy Gilmore movie, it's hard to say no.
Opposite Sandman. I think I would say yes now,
even though I know that it wouldbe terrible, I think I'd still
say yes just so I could be in a movie with Adam Sandler and a
Happy Madison production knowing, actually knowing that
it would be this bad. I would have to reconsider.

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But the whole movie wasn't that bad.
It's just that part and that storyline or villain arc was so
bad. Like so bad.
It was I I gave like the first two acts of the movie.
If I was like giving it a grade on its own, I'm like, God, this
is like a 60. It's on pace for like a 60 out
of 100, which is way better thanI thought it was going to be.

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But then the third act of the movie, I give literally a 0 out
of 100, like the last 45 minutesof the movie, a 0 out of 100.
And this movie has been interesting to kind of look at
from an Internet perspective because it's a Netflix drop.
It's people who don't see new movies that love Happy Gilmore
returning to. Like for Happy Gilmore 2.

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You get people who never saw thefirst one, like young audience
members that see all these cameos, and they want to be
like, OK, I'm going to watch Happy Gilmore 2 and then watch
the original Happy Gilmore. You get a lot of hot takes
online. People saying that Happy Gilmore
2 is better than the first one. It's the most seen Netflix movie
I think ever, or the highest debut for Netflix film ever in

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terms of audience. I mean, this felt like people
were coming from every corner totalk about this movie.
I felt like people were kind of infringing on our territory.
Ricky Flicks. But that's what Happy Gilmore
does. It brings everyone together
because everyone acknowledges how good the first one is.
Or, or at least how watchable atminimum on the first one is.

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This one is polarizing. You're getting some people
saying that it's better than thefirst one, which those people I
don't even regard. I, I just, I, I, I throw them in
the trash, like those reviews inthe trash.
But some people saying that, oh,like this is really good.
And then you have some people saying this is the worst movie
you've ever seen. I lean towards it's not good,
but I did enjoy myself for like an hour.

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I did. And I like they basically tried
to redo Happy Gilmore and the nostalgia play, the homage, the
paying homage to the first one. They did a great job doing that.
The nostalgia really worked for me.
And maybe because Happy Gilmore is one of those old school
comedies that we're missing nowadays and also is one of the
most quotable and memorable, notjust comedies, but movies of all

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time. And it's right in our
wheelhouse. Maybe that's why I loved it so
much. Or at least I liked the first
hour a lot. But it wasn't like it was a
great movie. I just really enjoyed myself.
Is this going to be a movie I rewatch 'cause I guess just said
Happy Gilmore, one of the most rewatchable movies of all time?
This one, definitely not, Not atall.

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But I did again on the 1st watchI kind of was like wow, this
could have been a lot worse withlike over 70 cameos again just
rehashing A storyline with kids,older actors, like so many
opportunities could have gone wrong in the first hour and it
was pretty good. I think that the cameos were a

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huge question mark for this movie.
We talked about it like it's going to feel like that's the
most like Netflix movie thing. It's going to feel about it.
It's just like we're pummeling all this money into it.
We want to get as many stars there.
We want to attract the biggest audience so people can just turn
it on at home and turn their brain off and be like, oh, it's
Travis Kelce. Oh, it's Bad Bunny, you know, Or
if you're a golf fan, oh, it's John Bailey.

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I think some of the cameos really did work, you know, and
that's where I was satisfied. I wouldn't say the cameos hit
more than not because there's over 70 cameos in this movie,
but I want to go through some ofthe ones that were good.
Like John Daly I think was good in this movie and he had to do
actual acting and he had a good amount of screen time.

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You know, John Daly literally a part of like the family.
He felt more a part of like Sam,like Sandman's family, Happy's
family, then like his kids did. He was getting more lines and
more screen time than they did. And he's living in the garage.
He has good comedic timing, you know, plays into like the
persona of John Daly thought he was good.

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Another one that wasn't really acameo, but very good.
I told you, Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny is a funny guy.
He's a he was good in this movie.
You know, I think he took on themantle of the Caddy and he
honestly probably a better, funnier character than what we
got in the original Happy Gilmore.
Yes, that character had its moments.

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And he's picking up the coin offof as a ball marker off the
ground and everything. Yeah, but Bad Bunny had a little
bit more to do, and I think he did it pretty well.
I think some people didn't even know that was Bad Bunny.
They watched it and they're like, they found the Caddy
hilarious and they thought he was just like an actor and they
they know it. Probably someone famous because
of all the cameos, but he was pretty damn good.
I do want to say Travis Kelsey Ialso thought was pretty good in

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this movie. You know, he was someone I was
nervous of, but I forgot. He kind of does.
He has acting chops little, but he's done stuff before.
He's been in TV shows and thingsof that nature and he's
obviously media trained with therelationship with Taylor Swift.
I thought those 333 cameos slashroles in the movie not bad
compared to everybody else, at least I.

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Don't know Bad Bunny had a lot to do.
I'll say that. He had a lot to do and he was
not bad. I funny I thought he was OK.
We got he was giving way too much in my opinion.
And Travis Kelsey I thought was hit or miss, hit or miss some.
Like I thought the actual actingwas pretty good, but then when
he went on macho, it was not good.

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The funny part was a lot, the honey part was a lot, and I felt
like I was watching more Ridiculous 6 than Happy Gilmore.
Yeah, but like him yelling, I don't know, him actually saying
like trying to be like a waiter,I actually thought was funny and
good, but him like trying to be Travis Kelsey, I thought it was
bad. I I thought it was too meta and
it didn't work. So I think both of them were

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like hit or miss. But I I think like John Daly, I
thought he hit it out of the park.
That's exactly what you need outof John Daly because it actually
is John Daly. It's not like he's acting.
It's truly him, but like to persona like a huge persona of
John Daly, you know, playing to that, you know.
So I think that was really good.Another couple others I thought

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were really good. Scotty Sheffler seemed a little
tight at first, but then they actually gave him the whole
storyline about him getting arrested and it ended up being
great. That was the best part of the
last 45 minutes to an hour of this movie was him getting
arrested and me like, wow, they did that.
I thought that was pretty funny.Well, wait, wait, you disagree
now? No, I thought I, I thought he

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was good. And I like how he played into
what happened right with, you know, the arrests and everything
that was good. And like, I'm not saying he's a
good actor, but like that's a that's the way you do a cameo.
You know, that was perfect. And it's a golf movie, the
number one golfer in the world, showing off a sense of humor and
how funny that actually was. And then playing into an Adam
Sandler movie. That's what you're supposed to

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do. I thought some of the other
golfer stuff like Will's Ala Torres predictable because he
everyone made the joke that he looks like Happy's caddy from
the Waterbury Open tournament inthe first one.
I didn't laugh because I'm just like, we've seen this joke
played so many times and he tried his best.
You know, I thought Xander Shafley funny, standard

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shuffling when he was doing that's what she said joke.
And then Colin Moore Cowell comes in and nails the that's
what she said joke funny, bit all the other like golfers out
like those guys, I think actually made me chuckle a bit.
Everybody else get out of here. I think all the other cameos get
out of here really. But what I really was

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disappointed with is like the OGreplacements were so fucking
bad. The OG replacements, like I'm
talking about, Mr. Larson's replacement is Bobon in this
movie who no longer plays in theNBA.
He's out in China playing. I thought he was awful.
I hate it when he was running around with like underwear on
his head or whatever the Frick he was doing in the third act

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there chubs his son. Not terrible, but not memorable.
Eminem as the Jackass guy son. Awful.
So bad. I would say that was the number
one worst cameo and it was so try hard to have Eminem in there
and he's so try hard acting in that moment.
Just let Eminem show up as Eminem.

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Don't have him actually play character.
That was the worst. That was really bad guy.
Where's some of the bad ones? Is you want to hear a hot take
And the first one we said, wow, Vern Lundquist may be the
greatest movie sports call of all time.
He might have had the worst movie sports call of all time in
this one. Holy bad, so bad in this

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terrible. That was really disappointing.
Reggie Bush is randomly in this,by the way.
Weird. I knew it immediately, though.
I'm like, that's Reggie Bush. Like he's, I didn't have to push
about. A cameo.
What is that? I was like, why was Reggie Bush
getting a cameo? I don't know, he doesn't even
have like status right now. Like no one cares about Reggie

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Bush. Like how big did he might have
asked to be in this movie? So weird.
A couple others that were hit ormiss.
I thought Kevin Nealon becoming like the like the in person like
interviewer. Perfect.
That was actually realistic but also smart so that was really

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good. Drop the psycho.
Yep, had to have the psycho in there.
A couple bad ones unfortunately.I thought Stephen A Smith went
way overboard. Hated it.
Electric chair. That's so dumb.
Really dumb, way over the top. Another one I hated and I

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thought was really forced was bringing on the SNL Domingo guy.
That's. Just like I felt so forced.
We already have like got Bad Bunny in this like why are we
why are we adding the SNL Domingo guy that that just felt
so forced to me. I hated that it was nice to see
Dan Patrick, Chris Berman and I guess leaning away from cameos

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and go more time more to a character where this I realized
wow, this movie is going to suckor is at some point is going to
start sucking is when I saw Hailey Joel Osmond come on
screen. Yeah, you know, automatically
it's the opposite. Like he literally has the
opposite, opposite effect of when he was like a child actor
where it's like he's in a movie,it's going to be great.
Now he's older and you know whenhe's in a project, you're like,

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it's probably going to suck. Right.
Like right when he, like before that, it was like the first 30
minutes, I was like, wow, this is actually kind of funny.
Oh, like, wow, I kind of like the opening montage.
Oh, I like the twist of Virginiabeing dead that it's actually
freaking funny. Like everything's like kind of
working. It's like a huge nostalgia play
and a rehash of the first one. But like everything's working.

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He's on tour, like he's playing well.
And then you just have Hayley, Joel Osbor come on screen.
I'm like, shit, this is going tobe an Entourage movie, isn't it?
Like this is going to turn bad. Yeah, the Entourage movie such a
good call. Also glorified cameo movie and
they didn't even get like the best cameos possible.
At least these were like for themost part a list cameos.
You know, at least it's like thehighest high of celebrity like

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wannabe in this movie and are inthis movie.
He sucked. You also don't believe he can
hit out Dr. Happy. You know, you got to get like
some type of ogre to play that part.
You know you need someone huge like if you hadn't not you
can't. Maybe not Kelsey, but you need
some huge person to do it, you know.
But yeah, when the maxi league and we go into their world, it
sucked. I thought when this movie I had

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a chance is like when it the I thought the funniest part of the
movie was maybe where you had the Eric Andre and Margaret
quali and the dude from Please Don't Destroy as a golf group
and Happy joins and happy sucks.He's kind of trying to get back
into it after a decade. That was funny.
You know, I would like to see more of like his journey back to

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the tour rather than like all ofa sudden he's thrust into the
tour and then he's thrust into the maxi league and it's going
100 miles an hour. If they build up his comeback
and they kind of tried to do that with the Rocky esque
montage and he's chasing like the robot area, like AI car or
whatever in the like Rocky chasing the chicken.
If they focus more on that, I think it could have been a

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little more ground, a little more funny.
But it's just so concerned with showing off the cast that it
kind of they nerfed the movie right, like just by like the
concept of it when I think they could have something at least
decent like this one. Loki for as many joke a second,
you know, type of moments it had.
It was Loki very sad, like a sadass movie, like going to the

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cemetery and seeing all the people dead.
Grandma Bob Barker, right, Chubbs like they're all dead.
Virginia Bennett dies, the Jackass guy.
They're paying tribute to everyone is legit.
The lady was in that too. A lot of them really actually
dead. So it's like Adam Sandler is

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like, I'm making this movie in honor of them.
But also it plays into like whatHappy's lost and his comeback
and what he has to regain. I'm just like, you actually
could have something decent. But also in the back of my mind,
I'm like, maybe obviously we shouldn't really make this
because a lot of people who madeit as special as it was aren't
around, you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah, yeah. But I guess like a couple last
cameos, I just want to call out,I thought the lawyer, the IRS
guy, I was like, wow, yeah, he, I think he nailed that part.
Lawyer. Oh yeah.
You're really gonna hate me. Yeah, he's the guy who came back
from the first movie, right? He was the.
The IRS guy in the first when hebecame a lawyer.

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Yes, yes. Yes, I thought that was pretty
good. And then our guy, How?
I didn't like him in this. I thought it worked it it's like
you had to do something, it had to be extended similar to the
first one. I thought that was pretty
clever. If he's going to be an
alcoholic, how you get how back into this and it can't be a

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retirement home. I think I had to or a nursing
home. I think this was a smart way to
do it. Could I have done it?
Maybe that was a little funnier,yes.
But it was just good to see him back in that character because
again, we saw him in Hubie Halloween and literally 60
seconds, we got him here for like 7 minutes of screen time.
I'll take that. Yeah, I I didn't like him.

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I just didn't find him funny at all.
Like it, it doesn't hit the samenearly like the first movie.
It shoehorned into this movie, you know, trying to figure out
something for Happy, almost like, why the hell?
Like you have to write somethingfor him just to be in here.
Doesn't feel natural at all. And like, Ben Stiller just seems
like he's trying so hard to conjure up the magic of the

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first movie. Well, the first one, the best
part is that you didn't know is Ben Stiller like you like you
like personally, I didn't like, I didn't know who Ben Stiller
was when I first saw this movie.I'm like, oh, like this guy is
electric. Now that you know, it's Ben
Stiller and, you know, like, he's done all these projects.
He's a pretty damn good directorand actor.
It's like this isn't actually who you are.
You know he just does and hit the same.

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Any other thoughts on Happy Gilmore before we fire off some
scores? God, like I I think for me this
is a streaming movie. So OK, like even though that
last 454040 minutes, the 40 minute mark, sorry, the last 40
minutes of a 40 minute mark, there was the start of when they
went to the Maxi league. Ever sit like that on was a

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train wreck total mess, Terribleright?
But before that, it wasn't terrible, right?
And this was a streaming movie, so like for me.
I was like. OK, you know what?
This is better than the trailer,The cameo filled mess that I
thought it was going to be for two hours.
We only got it for 40 minutes. And if this was in theaters, I

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would be pissed walking out of the theater.
I would, right? But we all knew what this was
going to be, right? Very low expectations.
I don't think we can't we can beso upset by this, right?
We you can be upset, I guess because like, oh, why did you do
this in the 1st place? So, so many people dead.
Like you said, Doc, this is a basically just a nostalgia like

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filled cameo fest, you know, butthis is better.
What I thought was going to be even the last 40 minutes was
absolute dog shit. And that's maybe an under
underestimate estimate estimate.But overall, I'm I'm fine with
this. I'm fine streaming movie.
Yeah, if you paid for this to gosee in theaters or use my A list

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at AMC to go see this, I would be upset.
Even if with the A List, I buy it 3 movies a week.
I like, I would be like, that was a waste.
That's a waste of my time, but Ilike it.
If you watch it all the way through, I think you had the
same reaction. You had a low bar.
The first two acts hit that low bar.
I'd describe them as tolerable and in the last 4045 minutes
intolerable. And you know what?

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I could I can envision and I don't want this is Happy Gilmore
3 and I think it's like the highest debut in terms of views
and audience. It's weird to say views when
you're talking about a movie probably like irks some of the
people that are listening to this podcast now, but you have
the most watched Netflix movie potentially ever on your hands.

(21:05):
You have that the Netflix deal with Adam Sandler The I can for
I can see them as a green lighting Happy Gilmore three.
But The thing is, the whole point of a lot of this sequel
was to kind of acknowledge that,yeah, we don't have the people
that made the first one so great.
We need a bunch of cameos to fill this in.

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It's going to feel, this one already felt so hollow that
there's not an original bone in this movie's body, you know?
And so how are you going to havea third one?
And it's just going to be AAI script.
It's going to be, you know, Sandman and Hurley.
He going on the script and plugging in jokes where they
want to and then they're going to throw some shit out there
again and it's just going to further Sully like the name of

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Happy Gilmore. Like don't make it a franchise,
you know, Even though this moviefelt like a franchise movie,
don't make it a third one because there's already nothing
to work with, you know, and he'salready happy.
He's already so old. Like don't make it a Creed spin
off where his son becomes a golfer or what not.
Don't try and do that. But I can envision it.

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Are thermometer predictors afterthe full first?
Full trailer here. I had a 41, you had a 33%.
That's how low our expectations were for this movie, you know,
like our thermometer predictors for that now, like it's at a 62.
I think that's ridiculous, you know?
That's right. So the first one I think is a
63. Yeah, this was at a 65 last

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Thursday, Friday. So this has gone down a little
bit and it wasn't, but it was atone point above the first one.
It's unfair. That's unfair though.
Like the expectations are so different.
Everyone at such a low bar for this movie.
I don't think anyone had any type of expectations for the
first one in 1996. Yeah, but it's not 20 years.
We know how legacy sequels work.We know streaming movies work.

(22:57):
We knew like what the movie we were getting and when it was
better than what people thought was going to be trash, they give
it a positive review. Hence a more positive score on
Rotten Tomatoes. You know, like, I'm not going to
give this a good score. Like I'm not going to be someone
that's associated with that 62% that like the movie, you know?
But I feel like other people aremore forgiving than us or me at

(23:19):
least. Yeah, I agree with that.
I think this, this one had a easier pass rate, you know, a
higher or a lower pass rate. The first one's like Oh, like
you're going off of like the 80sor 70s eighties comedies.
It's new like quote UN quote wasfired from SNL Billy Madison
like as much that's movie so freaking funny.

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That age is better than when it first came out.
Happy Gilmore was like, oh was coming after Billy Madison.
That was like, oh was funny, butlike still like Chris Farley
also fired from SNL was in that like it just a bunch of like
weird factors going in in the mid 90s with Adam Sandler before
he went on it like at the beginning of his crazy run in
the in the mid to late 90s. OK, Scores.

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What do you give? Happy Gilmore 2, 30. 9 all.
Right, I'm a 35 that does it fora review of Happy Gilmore 2.
It's now time to move on to the checkup.
Ricky Flex and I I was not I wouldn't say it highly
anticipating our review of HappyGilmore two.
I was highly anticipating the checkup because there is some

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monster stories in here and we have and it's not.
It has some superhero stuff in here, but also has a lot of like
like Capital M movies here. We got some cinema here to talk
about and some big name actors, not just heroes and characters.
So let's start with The Social Network too.
Mikey Madison and Jeremy Allen White are the top choices to

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star in The Social Network too. The source comes from Deadline.
So that came in last night and then this morning, late this
morning, there was a bombshell of movie news that came across
the timeline. Not only those two actors who
are two of the biggest names in the game, right?
Young actors. Jeremy Strong is also a top

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choice to start in The Social Network to from Aaron Sorkin.
Jeremy Strong is in talks to play Mark Zuckerberg, replacing
Jesse Eisenberg from 2010's version directed by David
Fincher. Eisenberg has currently decided
not to return to Zuckerberg in The Social Network, too.
Mikey Madison is rumored to be playing Frances Hagen.

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Might be Hagen. I think it's Hagen, the
whistleblower who disclosed Facebook's documents in 2021.
Jeremy Allen White is wanted as Jeff Horwitz, the reporter who
led the breaking of the Facebookfiles.
Ricky, we have to start with Jeremy Strong.
You know, we love Jeremy Allen White, we love Mikey Madison.
We got to talk about Zuckerberg being played by Strong replacing

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Eisenberg. What do you think about this
Ricky Flex? Obviously, we want Eisenberg,
right? What do you think about him
turning it down and Jeremy Strong probably playing the tech
mogul? Yeah, it goes without saying
that you want the original Mark Zuckerberg, Jesse Eisenberg, to
be playing him, right? You that's if you think.
If you don't think that, then there's something wrong with

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you, right? You don't want Jeremy Strong
playing Jesse Eisenberg. Oh, sorry, playing Mark
Zuckerberg over Jesse Eisenberg.We've seen it before, right?
This, You know, not having your original casted member in the
sequel usually doesn't work. It that would be a good top
billing of like like like sequels that don't have the

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original like cast or whatever, but you're redoing the
characters that would be a good top or ones that worst.
That would be a rankings becausethat would be so low or so
limited. But Jeremy Strong would probably
be the best replacement that youcould do.
And it's not because of his talent.
It's because he's already playedthis guy.
He literally has played this guybefore.
Not necessarily a tech like a tech genius, right?

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But he's played someone that Jeremy Strong has played
multiple very, very smart Aaron Sorkin scripts characters before
multiple and he's played very smart people.
He has played entrepreneurs. He could do this.
I know he can. It's just that you'll always be
thinking about Jesse Eisenberg that is the problem.

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So this is probably the best replacement that you could do.
But this was this is this will probably fall into the same camp
as all the other sequels that don't recast the original actor
where you're just always going to be thinking of Jesse
Eisenberg. You're always going to be
thinking about the original guy.What other examples are there of
this where it's someone at this level maybe the lead and needs

(27:50):
to be recast for the sequel? Batman with Kilmer and Clooney I
guess is ones you can think of. But what are other examples of
someone that literally got nominated for an Oscar, maybe
should have won for an Oscar, being replaced in a movie?
There's got to be some big. Ones well, I was thinking like
you said, Oscars, that's difficult, but I was thinking

(28:13):
like Roadie, you replace yeah with.
Terrence Howard. Yeah, Terrence Howard with God,
what's his name? Don Cheadle.
And then you also replace The Incredible Hulk.
You replace Ed Norton with Mark Ruffalo.
This is the biggest one since then probably right?

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That like the biggest character recast for a movie.
So it's just like those are different.
I know and and they're comic book movies and and they're not
as sensitive of material, obviously, but this I if people
if like Mark Zuckerberg is famously not happy with The

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Social Network. If he was pissed off by The
Social Network with Jesse Eisenberg playing him, I cannot
wait to hear or see his reactionto Jeremy Strong's performance
because it is going to be him getting into it, You know, way
more than Eisenberg did. Eisenberg as someone that came
off as a douche, but in a more subtle way, you have Jeremy

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Strong who's not going to do it in as subtle of a way.
You know you, we just know that this guy, look at every one of
his roles. We talked about it on the
checkup where he's not playing the lead in a lot of movies, but
he's having fun in the supporting role.
We talked about like him being nominated for an Oscar last year
for The Apprentice. Roy Cohn, great at playing a
douche and then having what he just, he was in the trailer for

(29:41):
Delivery from Nowhere and he is John Landau, the producer for
Bruce Springsteen. Also Jeremy Allen White maybe in
this movie. So it could be them like
collaborating again. But he likes to dress up.
We know he's all into the methodacting stuff and he's going to
want to differentiate his performance from Mark's from
Jesse Eisenberg. You know, he's not it's not a

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copy and paste. They're not the same type of
actor. And Jeremy Strong very much
cares about how he is perceived by like moviegoer moviegoers,
you know, so he's going to want to like, say this is the my
version of this character. And, you know, it's going to be
a little bit over the top, especially with Facebook, like
hitting like different levels of, you know, success or

(30:26):
different levels of notoriety, like since The Social Network
and that when that movie was made and where that first movie
ended. I think you're going to get a
loud performance here from Jeremy Strong.
I think it's going to be hilarious.
And I think it's going to be hilarious to see Zuckerberg's
reaction to it. And the the subject matter here
is just so different. You know, this is about the

(30:48):
Facebook whistle blower case 2021 post COVID like this is
going to be so different. So I guess if you want to spin
this into a positive again for recasting, it's like this is a
different Mark Zuckerberg we're talking about.
So I guess you could like kind of frame it as like, yes, this
meet might be a direct sequel, but it is like different, like

(31:10):
in the same character, same leadcharacter, but he is a different
person. So you playing, having someone
else play him who's also older, it could work.
I don't think Jeremy Strong willbe the lead of this movie.
I don't think Mark Zuckerberg's going to be the lead character.
I think if Jeremy Allen White and Mike Madison sign on, it's
those two. And there's been comparisons

(31:30):
like, to what this movie wants to be like.
It wants to be spotlight, you know, and like exposing Facebook
and the whistleblower aspect of,you know, the dealings and the
workings of that company. And if you guys haven't heard us
talk about like the the social network Part 2, go to our
YouTube and listen to our conversation on that.
It's really awesome Convo on what this story may look like.

(31:53):
Can it live up to the first one?This one, this conversation is
all about the cast here. But like Mikey Madison, Jeremy
Allen White, do they want them to act almost like are we
talking all the President's men?Is that what we're looking for
like in this type of movie? Like can you have that happen?
I think like they are they goingto be like separate entities?
Are they going to be holding thespotlight in different parts of

(32:15):
this movie? You know, Jeremy Strong, that's
the the big the big performance we're looking for.
But like in terms of Mikey Madison, one of the first major
roles, she signed on for post Oscar win.
You know, Jeremy Allen, White Post, Bruce Springsteen, he's
going for his Oscar campaign this year.
Mikey Madison, it's interesting she got cast as this person did.
Did you see the side by side with the person she may be able

(32:38):
to be portraying, Frances Hagen?I did.
So they look nothing alike. And that's OK to me because who
cares what Frances Hagen looks like?
It's not like like Jeremy Strong.
You care if he looks somewhat similar to Zuckerberg because
you think of Eisenberg and him and his performance, like you.
At least he doesn't look exactlylike like Zuckerberg.

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But when you put them and you put them in the context of the
movie, you're like, that guy is Mark Zuckerberg.
I feel like you're you're going to be able to do it with Jeremy
Strong. Who cares who France, what
Frances Hagen looks like? You know, no one knows.
I was shocked that she even had a Wikipedia page.
I was concerned that Jeremy Allen White's character, Jeff
Horowitz, I went to go look up his Wikipedia page.

(33:21):
It doesn't even exist, you know,So it's like, who cares if they
look like these people or not? It doesn't matter.
You know what I mean? I don't really care if they look
like them for roles like this because it's not like they're
playing movie stars. Scott is your Wikipedia page.
Yeah. What matters is like, do they
capture the person and is it going to translate on screen to

(33:41):
be compelling? And I think like you, Madison,
this will be interesting for her, for her because you, like
you said, this is one of the first roles that she's picking
post Oscar win. And what do we know her as you
know, she's a loud attitude filled, like her roles are loud
and attitude filled. You know, is this whistleblower

(34:02):
going to be that like probably going to be nervous, scared for
their lives against big corporation working with like
the New York Times? It it it's going to be maybe a
different performance from her. So I'm interested to hear that.
And then Jeremy Allen White, someone where I I think it's
also going to be a little different for him too.
You know, it's going to be interesting for these two young

(34:24):
actors kind of showing off the acting chops a little bit.
And again, I don't know if Jeremy Strong, I'm not confident
saying like, oh, Jeremy Strong definitely won't be the lead
because I do think like this is the social network too.
Like the social network is stillin the name.
So you're saying that the main character from that from the
original is not going to be the main character in this one, but

(34:45):
it's the same name. I still think if I had to put
money down that he will be the main character.
OK, I'm not going to bet a popcorn bucket like I did with
Jax, but I'm willing to bet thatJeremy Strong won't be the
leader of this movie. They they, I looked at this
article from The Hollywood Reporter.
So I I mentioned all the presidents, man.
That's not the movie they brought up.
That was kind of me just talkingabout what this movie could look

(35:05):
like. They're saying the project would
have shades of spotlight like I brought up previously and also
from 1999. You know what movie?
Probably confidential. No, I think that's 97.
But the insider, the insider andI, if it's like that, then yeah,
like. Zuckerberg won't really be in

(35:27):
the movie. They'll be more like, what was
it Michael Gambon like? Zuckerberg would be like more
like Michael Gambon and the Insider, more like a supporting
character with a like a tough presence, a big presence, you
know, which makes like Jeremy Strong.
Perfect. Like don't cross that person.
Like there will be consequences if you cross that person, you
know? It makes a lot of sense.

(35:48):
For Jeremy Strong to play that type of character.
So I I get that I I guess like. Whistle blower movie, Yeah.
Yeah, for a whistle blower movie, that makes sense, right?
And Aaron Sorkin writing a whistle blower movie sounds
great. Him directing 1 still makes me
nervous. It still does.
I don't trust this man directingI, I just don't.
If Mikey Madison, Jeremy Allen White are the leads like like

(36:10):
Sorkin's script, you know, like Mikey Madison, we know she could
talk, right? She could chat and like we know
that from Anora. Jeremy Allen White just like,
and it was a Sorkin script. I don't know, you know, Can you
imagine it? Yeah, that's a huge test.
If he's that's I guess the appeal of it, like flexing a
little bit would be different from like performances we've
seen from his past and could be coming off like an Oscar

(36:32):
campaign for Deliver Me From Nowhere would be interesting.
Next up on the checkup going from right well, Steven Fincher
should be directing if you were to dare make the movie Social
Network Part 2 to what he actually is directing, which is
a sequel, the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood film from 2019 that
was directed by Tarantino. Tarantino writing the script.

(36:54):
There was they started shooting and there was set photos and we
got our first look at Brad Pitt returning his Cliff Booth, Ricky
Flex. And it was rough to look at
because you think of Cliff Boothand you're like, this guy's one
of played by one of the coolest actors who's ever lived.
It's a great, cool character that ended up getting Brad Pitt

(37:18):
the long, elusive Oscar. When I saw this picture, I'm
like, holy shit, this is a mistake.
Like, what are we doing? Don't do this.
I know it's going to look a lot better when the movie comes out,
and obviously the cinematographer is going to go
to work. Fincher's going to go to work.
But when I saw this picture, thememes that came out of it, the

(37:38):
comparisons to William H Macy and Boogie Nights cracked me up.
Did you have any reactions when you saw these images?
Kind of looked like Tom Delong and first date music video.
I saw that too. Good.
Yeah. It is 8 years later, so you kind
of have to make Cliff Booth and and Brad Pitt uglier and older

(38:02):
and how you do that, you kind ofrough them up a little bit, give
them a little longer hair, make them a little bit, I don't know,
less appealing. So I get it.
But again, will this movie be assexy as I got Tarantino
directing it? Probably not.
And it makes sense with David Fincher, the guy that did Seven
Fight Club. Like it makes sense why they're
kind of going in this direction.So I kind of like him.

(38:23):
It does make sense. Like Tarantino is not directing
it. He's also playing a studio fixer
in this movie. So instead of working one-on-one
for Rick Dalton, he's being sentoff by studios, I guess, to
track down like stars and make sure things are in order.
And, you know, almost similar, kind of similar to what he just

(38:45):
did with Wolfson Clooney, you know, kind of like that type of
figure. But doing it for the studio.
I think that's going to allow for you to get like the cameos
that were so great Once Upon a time in Hollywood, a cameo film
that does work in my opinion, and don't overpower the movie.
I think that you're going to have some great moments, you
know, with Cliff Booth visiting maybe a Jim Brown, you know, and

(39:07):
like saying to make sure this guy's keeping his head on
straight and making sure like nofunny business is going on.
I feel like he could delve into,you know, dark parts of
Hollywood and like, still how studios kind of keep people in
line. You know, I feel like this could
be a cool, I guess, tangent, youknow, for this story to go for
Cliff Booth. And I think it means I don't

(39:29):
know if we're getting a Leo dude.
I don't think we're going to gethim, especially for this Netflix
movie. Yeah.
But I, I. I agree with that.
But going back to what you were saying before, like if we think
about what Tarantino was lookingat doing, like with again, the
rumors of Paul Walter Hauser, the rumors of, oh, it's going to
be the movie critic. And the rumors of like, oh,
they're going to be going on sets of old seventies, 70s

(39:50):
movies. Like they're going to be going
on the set of taxi drivers. So you'll probably have someone
playing the role like Robert De Niro.
You know, this kind of fills that a little bit with this like
The Great Escape. Scene.
Yeah, exactly. Like we, we, I think we're,
we're going to be seeing that still, right.
It's just it just these these stills again, very early stages

(40:12):
here, very early, like we are not even through the 1st inning
of this movie. And so these are just way out of
left field to to continue the baseball analogy.
But this does look grungier and,you know, not as just sexy.
It'll look different on screen. It's going to the way they are
Fincher movie. It's going to look darker.
It the aspect ratio is going to be different.

(40:32):
It it's just what it is with Fincher versus a Tarantino
movie. So I think this is kind of like
getting us ready a little bit like maybe these still like
these leaks were on purpose. Yeah, I mean, like, Seth photos
never look as good as what they actually look like when the
movies made. And sometimes movie stars don't
look as, you know, movie star ish as they look on screen.

(40:52):
You know, I bet that picture, it's Seth photo from someone's
iPhone, you know, so it's not going to look as great.
But it's just the mustache, you know, the hair is a little bit
more aloof than usual. What we see with Rick Dalton.
I mean, excuse me, Cliff Booth. I I'm excited for it.
I'll be there as soon as it drops midnight on Netflix.

(41:12):
It's just interesting when you think of David Fincher directing
this and the development of the Social Network Part 2 is
happening. And at the same time,
Tarantino's not directing the adventures of Cliff Booth, but
writing it like it just seems like this.
The the way these two movies arelike ramping up at the same time
and you have to get the names and order and put them to the

(41:33):
right project. It will be easily confused on
the checkup. 100% moving on. Next Rosalind a lot oh man, I'll
I'll come to that name later. Adam Driver, Daniel Kluya, Anna
Kendrick and Rosalind Lazar are going to start in a new a 24
film that are going that it willbe directed by and also starring

(41:55):
Chris Rock. Film follows A gifted actress
with a derailed career until someone from her past offers her
a chance at a comeback. Source comes from Deadline.
Ricky Flex. Are you surprised to see names
like Driver and Kaluya in a movie directed by Chris Rock?
Completely surprising. You know, Chris Rock, we've
talked about this project before, hasn't done a lot behind

(42:17):
the director's chair. That's not like his own show or
something that he's closely tiedto, especially something that is
supposed to be dramatic, you know, and a full length feature
film. And then he's doing something
with a 24 studio that likes to take chances.
And then he gets Adam Driver andDaniel Kalia, two of the best
actors under 50. That's impressive.

(42:41):
So this project, not only does it sound interesting from the
log line you just shared, but ingeneral has to be appealing to
these guys that are like, the height of their game, their
peaks, their prime of their careers.
You know, So Chris Rock is either cooking up something or
he has a vision for this that isjust unique because when you
read this log line, the film follows A gifted actress with a
derailed career until someone from her past offers her a

(43:04):
chance at a comeback. That sounds like it's
interesting, but it's pretty generic.
So it's probably Chris Rock likehaving some sort of twist on
this kind of generic premise that Adam Driver and Daniel
clearly are interested in, whichis just crazy to me because it's
also you have to think thing again, it's a 24.
Even though they do have cash now, it's not like a true indie

(43:25):
studio anymore. Then including Adam Driver are
probably not getting their full rates here.
They are not getting paid millions of dollars through this
movie either. So they really are, they really
have to be driven by the projectto be joining us.
So I think that's a this is a big like UPS for Chris Rock.
Yeah, it's good for him. I think 824 Aspects probably

(43:46):
makes people like Driver and Kaluya attracted to it.
Probably a script that is off the beaten path a little bit.
Rosalinda Lazar, it seems like we'll be the star of this
project. She was in Slow Horses.
Rick, do you recognize that name?
Yeah, she's in. She's one of the Slough House's
best people. So like the minor leagues of MI
6, She's like the best one there, one of the best ones.

(44:09):
Were you surprised to see her leading this movie?
Do you think? Like after watching that show,
like Oh yeah we'll see her in movie soon.
Like watching her in that show, like she's a good actress.
Like the everyone in the bear that's like sub sub like
supporting actors in the bear that are being big movies.
Like this makes sense why she's also now getting a chance now.

(44:31):
Like she's getting a chance to lead a a 24 movie with Daniel
Kluy and Adam Driver. No, that was not on my bingo
card in 2025. But like, yeah, for sure she
should be getting recognized more in bigger movies for sure.
Like if the better people are, then she for sure isn't everyone
else's slow horses. Interesting.
And Adam Driver, what's last thing you did, Ferrari?

(44:57):
I'm thinking 65, I'm thinking Ferrari.
It's. Kind of been a way from us man.
Like I kind of want him to do something with a with.
A. And he's so, oh you're right,
but he's the guy who's so careful about choosing projects
that match with a good director.It makes me fascinated to see
why he picked a Chris Rock movie.
Because Chris Rock doesn't direct great movies.

(45:18):
Directed like 3 movies in his career.
I think none stick out. I think my best is not what
well, how did why did I get married?
I think was one top five. I think was one.
I just feel like it's a weird choice from Adam Driver to be
working with Chris Rock after working with Francis Ford
Coppola, after working with Michael Mann, after working with
Noah Baumbach, like he does it the next you be like, I want to

(45:41):
see him work with, you know, he's worked with Scorsese.
Like I I want to see him work one of those guys again.
And Chris Rock comes off right looking like, Oh, you have a
good project here, okay. Like just like Adam Driver, like
a guy that's worked with again, Scorsese, Ridley Scott, Spike
Lee, like these. And then now it's Chris Rock, a
guy that did I think I love my wife.

(46:03):
Like how? Was it?
Yeah. It's just like what?
So again, I I think this is I don't think this is I don't
think we're yet at that stage tosay Adam Driver is going over
the hill. Like I, I still think like, oh,
like Megalopoulos maybe wasn't as good as we thought, but like
that was an ambitious project with Francis Ford Coppola.
Of course he's going to try it. Ferrari, maybe that wasn't as
good as what we thought I was going to be.
That's Michael Mannins and that was a long standing production

(46:24):
and Hugh Jackman was supposed tobe playing that part like 20
years ago. So like, I don't think we're
there yet. I just think that like, all
right, this is like something just to keep an eye on and.
Kaluya. He had Judas and the Black
Messiah, wins an Oscar, and thenhe really hasn't done much
either. I feel like I heard some things
about oh was it Nope was Nope after.

(46:46):
Yeah, it was right after. And like, you know, the Jordan
Peele, like, oh, they want to bethe De Niro Scorsese tandem of
the 21st century, you know? I think I heard we maybe cut
this out, but Kaluya, he like dropped his agent and he there's
a suspicion that he's under control of the cult right now.

(47:07):
By a cult look up Daniel Kaluya colt.
A colt. So he did just sign with an AN
agency in March. Maybe he's straight from the
colt. Hold on, let me just.
I did. Daniel Kaluya, agent, let me do
Colt. This is.
Oh, whoa, there is something. Wow, that.

(47:28):
Yeah, did you when did you hear about this?
Just so I get. I feel like I saw it on my
social media about a month or two ago.
OK, so there's a couple things. July 15th Daniel Cooley and
Nicole explained the viral tweetrumors.
People thought he joined a cult in 2022.
And then four days ago the DailyMail had something so English

(47:48):
publication and he is British and he's hasn't appeared since
Nope in 2022. And that's what I mean, I we
haven't seen him in a while. OK, so let's let me just quickly
skim this real quick. This was four days ago the Daily
Mail came out with this. It was like it was a woman, I
think, that took control of his,you know, everyday life.
Yeah, there's people saying thathe was sabotaged by, like, the

(48:11):
cult. Yeah, this woman.
Yeah, Her Holiness. What the heck is this dude?
And this is post Oscar win and post like working in a Jordan
Peele movie. He's supposed to be the Jordan
Peele. Like, you know, the, the, the
tandem. He's supposed to be the De Niro

(48:33):
to Scorsese. Yeah, so apparently the woman
was on the set of Nope, and she caused people on set to be
concerned about her influence over Kaluya.
That that's like reporting. That's not fake.
People on the notes notes that were very concerned that this
person named Herr by the way, HEIR like heir to the throne,

(48:55):
had taken over Danny Kalu's lifeand all decisions had to go
through her. Wait, is her her first?
Is her first name Herr? Yes.
What the fuck is he doing? Are you an idiot?
Like she's obviously the leader of a cult.
There's. Multiple blow ups in production.
People were afraid of her. This is insane.
So yeah, he was at, he was used to be at CIA and now he's at WW.

(49:18):
Whatever. The other one that's just AW, Oh
my God, yeah, this is pretty nuts.
This is like the Babylon shit. You know, this is the world you
don't see, but you've only heardabout, or it's rumored about in
Hollywood. And actually there's things like
this that happen to people. It's just, I can't believe
Daniel Kluwe, you don't surroundyourself with better people

(49:39):
after winning a God damn Oscar. Maybe he gives the air credit
for like getting him an Oscar win and or he did.
He signed a deal with the devil you know for winning that Oscar.
So like he hasn't been in a liveaction movie since Nope in 2022
and the only other thing he was in was spider man across the
spider verse in 2023, but that was obviously recorded well

(49:59):
before 2022 and he has beyond the spider verse.
We're coming. Then he has two movies, one in
production, one's in pre production.
So he hasn't even been like doing anything acting wise.
Remember the Barney rumors, the age 24 Barney movie with a Ayo
Edebury? He was rumored to be starring in
that. Not anymore.
Maybe it's because of this dude.So I'll I'll I'll kind of
backtrack from the cult and be like more like bad relationship,

(50:22):
controlling relationship. That's what I'll say.
What? This is based off my 62nd
Internet research. You know that movie that's
coming out him? Yeah, but that's Jordan Peele
producing, right? Yeah, I know he's not in it.
I'm just saying the concept of it where he signs, basically
signs a deal with the devil, andthe devil appears to be Damon,

(50:44):
Marlon Wayans. Damon Wayans, one of the Wayans,
but it's like he's like the villain of the movie.
I think he's going to be revealed as like the devil.
And then you want to go to the pros, You got to sign a deal
with the devil, just like you want to win an Oscar.
Daniel Kluya, you got to sign a deal with this cult, not a deal
with the devil. Marlon.
Marlon. All right.
Always confuse him. OK, Next.

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Sorry, weird tangent, but I think also very educational.
I have no idea. We won't cut it.
We'll keep it. Eddie Murphy, Speaking of guys
who fell off in Hollywood and trying to come back, reveals
that he's playing Inspector Clouseau in a new Pink Panther
movie. Eddie Murphy also said that
there is a Donkey movie that's coming along with Shrek 5.

(51:25):
So I think very soon we're goingto be seeing a lot of Eddie
Murphy, Ricky Flex. When I see, like, an actor and
an Inspector Clouseau, it tells me, like, we bring back Pink
Panther every two decades, and usually it's an actor who really
hasn't been in the public eye too much.
But it's like a good, like, hey,I could play Inspector Clouseau
and then I could get started, just like Steve Martin kind of

(51:47):
did a couple of decades ago. I think he could be a good
Inspector Clouseau. Yeah.
Like this I think. We haven't had Pink Panther
movie since 2009. I was a fan of the O61, even
though looking back on that, nota good movie and neither was the
second one. For God's sakes.
It wasn't good. But yeah, we're at the time
where it's we're due for a reboot.
This is what? The Pink Panther does, We're at

(52:09):
that time. So I'm totally fine with it.
I think the question is, is Eddie Murphy the right person
for it? And if you look at the Steve
Martin comp where it's like a guy that's like past his prime,
kind of in a flux, but still like relevant at the time
against Steve Martin in the mid 2000s.
That's kind of where Eddie Murphy is right now.
You know, we thought he was going to be coming back in the

(52:30):
limelight post Dolomite is my name.
He did coming to America, like literally to America, the legacy
sequel. He did a couple other things.
He did that Jonah Hill Netflix movie that was a God awful you
people like he's kind of fallingback down to earth, you know, or
below earth if you want to say this will get him back to being
relevant in a big IP type of thing.
Like it's not a superhero movie or anything like IP like that.

(52:53):
But this is like a comedy that'skind of like, again, if you're a
good comedic actor like that hasa big presence like Eddie Murphy
or Steve Martin, like you'll be able to slip into inspector
clues out, you know, you'll be able to do this.
So I, I like this move and we are due for this.
I think it's fine. He's going to do a funny accent,
you know, You know what I also was thinking about with Eddie

(53:15):
Murphy and I saw this news, thisnews clip on my timeline.
I thought about when we went to go see Fantastic Four First
Steps, and there's this new trailer for Naked Gun, which is
going to be a part of our reviewon Monday, part of our episode
on Monday, we're going to reviewNaked Gun.
But they had this trailer that was saying basically the

(53:36):
comedy's dead need to bring backthe comedy.
The comedy's important. And then they played a bunch of
reels from different movies and they chose to include a clip
from Norbit. They Norbit and they have like
Laquisha, I think that was her name in the movie at La Fonda.
I forgot what it was, but she heard basically tackling Eddie
Murphy on the bed. And I'm like, if you're going to

(53:58):
bring comedies back, pick the good ones to show in that
trailer. Like they showed that one they
showed The Lost City for a couple years back.
Paramount. That was paramount.
Oh, maybe that's why that's got to be why Norbit in the Lost
City is like, OK, we got to bring back the comedy.
I'm like, do we want to be showing these movies and say,
yes, we need to bring back the comedy?

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It's like maybe these movies that made us forget the comedy,
you know, or drop the comedy. Yeah, like, God damn it.
Like, for sure. Like they're all Paramount
movies. I want to say.
Like, I don't remember all of them, but like, seeing Norbit
there was shocking, but it's like you needed Eddie Murphy in
there. He still has that.
Like, wow, it's Eddie Murphy. And that's why, like, this is a

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good sweet spot for him, you know, get back in the limelight.
Like Donkey. That's not like it's Donkey, you
know? It's not Eddie Murphy, it's
Donkey. This is good for him.
I like this. Good for Eddie Murphy, we're
going to be seeing him a lot over the next couple years.
More family friendly fare. I think he's better when he does
the R rated stuff, but more family friendly fare.
You can do both. Last part of the check up,

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Superhero corner, Marvel corner,Variety, another report on
Marvel. Basically what's coming up, what
is the near future and distant future look like?
According to this Marvel report from Variety, RDJ made over $500
million in his first MCU run as Iron Man.
He's now going to make more than$80 million playing Doctor Doom

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in the next two Avenger films. There's also rumors about Marvel
potentially having this decisionof whether to keep Robert Downey
Junior for the future of the MCUpast Secret Wars as the
character next. Pedro Pascal will not be the
main lead in Doomsday but does have an integral role in the

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movie, which is kind of new found information for a lot of
Marvel fans are almost unexpected.
Also, this report says that Marvel feels no sense of urgency
to release either Blade or Deadpool four.
And then final part of this report, Marvel will cast the new
X-Men soon. They're looking for younger
talent instead of a listers to keep the cost down.

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All right, Ricky Flex, I'm goingto give the choice to you.
Where do you want to lead off with the Marvel corner?
I'll start with the most damning, damning part of this
report, all right? And I don't know if we're going
to agree with this, but I think it's the X-Men news.
And it's not because they're casting younger people.
It's for the last part of that segment where or the line where

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it said it's because to keep costs down.
The hypocrisy. The hypocrisy from the first
line for like Robert Denige willmake $80 million over the next
two X-Men Movie or two Marvel movies, Avenger movies.
And then the thing about keepinghim on.
And then then for them to go forthe last bullet point here, the

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X-Men younger talent to keep thecost down.
Like you hypocrites. The oxymoron like the polar
opposition of those two statements just blow my mind.
And the X-Men, they are the future.
Like like Robert Downey Junior is the immediate, you know,
future. But down the line, we're trying
to build the MCU past Secret Wars.

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You need to think about you're probably your most cherished
product aside from probably Spider Man going into the future
for the MCU. This is like a company that is
not investing for the future. They're just like, oh, let's get
by this year. Let's hit our let's hit our
marks this year, you know, let'shit our targets.
But we're not investing for fiveyears down the line.

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And in five years down the line,they'll be like shit, like I
wish we did that new tech systemor like shit, why didn't we see
the AI trend? Like, even though everyone was
investing in it five years ago, this is exactly what that is.
But it's even worse, Doc, because the X-Men are so
important and it's so obvious and they're literally, we talked

(57:55):
about it last week on the other Variety report that this is
going to be a reboot surrounded by the X-Men and you're not
going to be investing in them. That is my problem with this.
Like, yes, the hypocrisy is hilarious, very hilarious.
That's in the same report, by the way.
And also the $80 million that RDJ is going to be playing from

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Doom, that is the floor. He would be making more than
that because he has a percentage.
There's no doubt about it. That is just a base and that
doesn't include the private jetsand the then on production on
set like cost that RDJ is commanding that were in that
earlier variety report from lastyear.
Like there is some crazy cost that are going into that, but

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you got to invest in the X and because that is what you're the
MCU is going to be in 2028 and beyond, it's going to be mostly
X-Men. So for them to just say, hey,
like, let's just look at, you know, you random Joe Schmo over
here. No, no, no, that's not what you
should be doing here. If you see random Joe Schmo and
be like, that's my Cyclops and costs don't matter, then it's
like, OK, fine, you pick. Just pick off a quality pick off

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who you think will be the best cyclops.
But if you're saying, oh, the best one's this guy, but he
makes 8 million, let's save 7 million and pick this guy for
one. Like that's not what you should
be doing. They are trying to do kind of
what Phase One did and they're taking people like Hemsworth and
Evans and they grow into the character.
And as movies become more profitable, they get more money

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down the line, right? And if as soon as they fulfill
their contract, whether it be for two movies or 4 movies or
even 5 or 6 movies, you know, italmost is like when you sign an
NFL rookie to a rookie contract and you want to have that
quarterback that is on the rookie contract, then you build
around the quarterback. You know, just like you're going
to have Wolverine, probably younger Wolverine, maybe someone

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that's not as high of a price, maybe not as recognizable of a
name, but you could build aroundthe character, you know, I feel
like. But like, I just don't want them
picking like, not picking the best person when like, you know
what I'm saying? Like, like you're picking a
worst person on purpose, you know, and you're taking the
chance that it's not good when you are so reliant on the X-Men.

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In a few years they didn't have to.
I don't know the report saying to keep the cost down, you could
just say we're looking for new talent, young talent, and
there's not a ton of young actors that roll off the tip of
a normal audience goers tongue, you know, that could play
members of the X-Men. There's people that maybe are
way too high of a price that they would like to get, but

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those are like out of the price range.
Like you can't do it. So if you just say you're
looking for like new faces, new young actors or you're saying
you're looking for young actors,I think you pretty much cover
your bases when you say like to keep the cost down.
It just makes me chuckle. And then also just, are you like
you're saying, are you picking the best person for the role?
You know, that's a huge part of it and.

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A big and a big issue. And like, you compared it to
like, Hemsworth and Evans in theearly 20 tens.
But like, think about Marvel. At the time, people didn't want
to be in superhero movies. Yeah, it was.
It was harder to get them. And then later in the 20 tens,
they see the success and like, people were starting to say, oh,
we can get a Christian Bale on aThor, Thor, Love and Thunder.
Or they can start like get a Benedict Cumberbatch to play
Doctor Strange. You can get a Paul Rudd to play

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Ant Man. Like there was a reason why
they're picking, you know, taking more chances for the
Chris Hemsworth, taking more chances with the Chris Evans,
you know, recasting him in a superhero movie.
Like they were they were kind ofagainst the wall more.
Now they're like, I'm not sayingthey're on the forefront.
Like they were end game phase four era, right, where they
could have just hired anybody. But I think like now they still

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command, like they still have a presence in Hollywood where they
could still get like a young rising star, like where maybe
Mikey Madison says no to Star Wars, but like maybe she says
yes to the MCO. You know, maybe she like, I'm
not like that. I only thought of Mikey Madison
because we brought her up on thecheckup today and she's one of
the rising stars in Hollywood. But I'm just saying like I don't
want, and I'm not saying we haveto necessarily sign a star to

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play Jean Grey. I'm just saying like, if we
think that's the best option, then let's do it.
You still can do it. If you're marble, you're not
like, you don't have like, you're not like in 2010 where
it's like Mikey Madison might not want to do this.
Like the character for Marvel for the most part is more
profitable than the actor. The the exclusion to that rule

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or that whatever that rule is RDJ because you need him.
Like if you like to like to guarantee people go see the
movie by having RDJ, you have togo see him.
But like the X-Men, if you're introducing Professor Rex,
Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, people are going to go see the
movie because they love the characters and it's such a
established lore of heroes, you know, and the X-Men, it's not

(01:02:40):
like introducing some of like the Guardians of the Galaxy.
It's not it's way different. It's like the X-Men, you know,
you can afford to cast someone alittle bit lesser known for
those roles. You know, I, I did want to talk
about RJ potentially playing Doctor Doom past Secret Wars.
I'm someone that I don't mind the idea of RDJ being Doctor
Doom in both these two movies. I think it's an interesting

(01:03:02):
dynamic. I want to see how the Russo
Brothers can pull it off, want to see what the script will look
like, how Doctor Doom for these next two movies.
Will it be successful? If I I find it fascinating, I'm
not dismissing it, but I will dismiss the idea of him becoming
Doctor Doom past Secret Wars, right.
You don't need RDJ when you're talking about rebooting the
universe, when you're talking about casting a new Iron Man,

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when you're talking about casting a new Captain America
going into the future. You can't have RDJ continue to
play Doctor Doom, you know? And it makes me think about that
scene. Post credit spoiler alert for
Fantastic Four first steps. You can Fast forward a bit if
you need to for the conversationon X-Men, not X-Men, Deadpool

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and Blade and everything but that seat.
I'm starting to think that Doctor Doom, there's a chance
that Rd. JS Doctor Doom is not the one
from 828. There's there's a chance that's
not that Doctor Doom right? There's a chance the one that
was missing from that seat at the Future Foundation speech

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made from Sue Storm, That is theactual Doctor Doom that will be
for the future. That when you have potentially
the Fantastic Four carrying overpast eager oars, right become
Doctor Doom, a new actor that isn't as tightly knit with
Marvel, you know, keeping RDJ around.
That's where you have the cost go up.
You know, I think that if you'retalking about keeping costs down

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and you want to spread the wealth to these other actors,
you can't have you can't have RDJ continue and you can't have
him go through, Right. People feel the presence at
least of Robert Downey Junior. It goes against the idea of a
rebooting of the franchise that they're talking about.
South to me, there is a chance that the 828 Doctor Doom is not
the one we saw in the post credit and Right.
You got to make sure the person that is the Doctor Doom gets a

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fair shake at it and don't have the shadow of RDJ across the
reboot. Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah. And I I think.
My my last thing on the cost element is that like there's
probably some people saying like, oh, but you have to win
now, you have to pay now, like pay up for the big free agent
right now. And like you have to get

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doomsday and secret wars, right?That is right.
You do have to get them right inorder for the reboot to work.
But the only thing I would say is that this is different from
sports. Is that like, oh, like if the
reboot doesn't work, let's say then you could blow up the team
and then you have the draft lottery and then you have a
whole other assets you could trade and what not.

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We know of this reboot like Secret Wars.
Let's just say worst case scenario, doomsday Secret Wars
don't work right and you invested all this money.
We know X-Men are coming, though.
No matter what they're going to.Have the X-Men, you know, they
have the the assets back. 20th Century Fox, they have the Fox
assets. X-Men will be on the big screen.
They already have a director like this isn't going to get

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shut down. This is too important.
These assets are too big. These characters are too big.
These like fans are clamoring for them.
Look at X-Men 97, how successfulthat was, right?
So this is where the difference is like, no matter what, you
have to invest in that because no matter what that is coming,
that will be coming. So I understand like you have to
invest in RJ, but you can't discount the future.

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This is one of those situations where you can't reallocate
resources. You know, it's not business
either, where you can reallocateand like change things change.
No, the X-Men are coming no matter what.
It's inevitable. I am inevitable to quote that
house. This is like watching what's
happening with. RDJ and talking about
potentially him playing this character after Secret Wars.

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It reminds me of Brady Belichicka little bit.
What made the MCU more successful?
You know, it's like it like Feige the mastermind, but we've
seen Phase One through 3 Amazing456 not panning out the same
way. If like Secret Wars, if they win
the Super Bowl with Doomsday andSecret Wars and then you carry
RDJ over into this reboot as Doctor Doom, you're like, who

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gets more credit for the successof the MCU?
Is it RDJ or is it Kevin Feige? I know the world's large.
There's a lot of characters here, but for the desperation
that it reeks of, like to have him return and then carry him
over because it seems like there's a lack of trust with the
characters and potential actors that'll be associated here.
The need for RDJ, the little Brady Belichick vibe a little

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bit. I love this analogy.
I'll go a step further. Iron Man obviously kick starts
the MCORDJ, right? But then you have Thor, Captain
America, first Avengers, something that we debated last
pod where like both get like a makeover in their sequels and
like like how's 6? And like like I know the Marvel
book that just came out, right? I forget the writers of that,

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but that just came out and they basically were outlining like a
lot of like luck that happened in the 20 tens that kind of went
Marvel's way, you know? And like you heard James Gunn
talking last week saying, oh, I thought about how we can
incorporate the Infinity Stones in 3 minutes from the MCO,
right? A lot of luck going the MCU's

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way and then RDJ having to come into sit like like Civil War was
on his shoulders a lot. Infinity War end game on his
shoulders a lot. It's just this is a great
question. It is if you really look at like
the in like the inside baseball MCU, a fight of it.
Like it really is a good question and I, I like, I, I

(01:08:23):
want to give Kevin fighting morecredit because I think 21st.
Century best. Producer there is right but RDJ
the fact that they recasted him right and is not off comic book
lore directly of of Tony Stark coming Doctor Doom there's the
other way around of Doctor Doom Doom Iron Man is not the other

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way around so this isn't off of any comic it does and we talked
about the reeks of desperation. It does give the Tom Brady,
Belichick up like these these last three phases like.
A4, four and five, I should say.Last two phases.
Little bit like the Cam Newton, Mac Jones era in New England,
you know? And here comes Drake May.

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Drake May is the new X-Men. OK, they pull it up.
Too much Patriot talk. And we're not even Patriot fans.
But that is the analogy. People see how much RDJ means,
but he may mean even more than we think.
All right, what else, Marvel? No urgency to release.
Blade or Deadpool? 4 blade.

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I'm not surprised with 'cause like you don't.
Need blade with like. Where the MCU is headed, you
want to build out that horror corner of the MCU like we talked
about, I don't know if that's the right term for it, but like
the moon nights, the midnight Suns, like sector, you know, you
want to like have that that those characters a part of it,

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but it's not in the concern of Secret Wars right now.
You know that like that they're not those characters aren't big
enough popular enough where theyneed to be included.
Deadpool 4, Ryan Reynolds, maybeyou've got to figure out where
he lands because maybe he doesn't belong in Secret Wars or
Doomsday where you don't know how he's his inclusion will
impact the movie, how he will look in that movie.

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The 4th wall breaks is the R ratedness of the character.
Like how does that character fit?
Let's worry about it later. Pushed off.
I'm not surprised by these two things.
I guess Deadpool Wolverine did make right a billion dollars as
an R rated movie. So you like to see that sequel
sooner rather than later if you are Marvel and you are talking
about money. But I think those two characters
just don't fit in the relevancy of the immediate future.

(01:10:34):
Yeah, it's not a core focus for them right now.
Not a core focus for The Avengers, Doomsday, or Secret
Wars. So why are we going to focus on
a Blade movie that we can't get off the ground through 4
iterations of scripts? Why are we going to focus on a
Deadpool movie that last year wejust did a movie?
It's not like it's we needed oneimmediately after before

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Doomsday or before Secret Wars. No, no, no, let's focus on
Spider Man and let's get the Doomsday and Secret Wars, right?
So then we can do this reboot, right?
It is shocking to hear that oh, Deadpool is not kind of
important because it is a billion dollar movie.
So for someone that is so cost focused, it seems like, oh, they

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would probably want to get like just some writers like Ryan
Reynolds in a room. Just say go write for a bit, you
know, but so that's a little bitshocking.
But I think going back to our analogy with the business is
like it's not a core business. So let's not focus on that right
now. Let's focus on Avengers and
these guys. Blade and Deadpool,
unfortunately, are not core pieces of doomsday or Secret

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wars. I think for Blade, this is
definitely not surprising, but it's just kind of disappointing
because this thing has been likewas announced as Blade six years
ago. I think that I think it.
Was Comic Con. After end.
Game OK, so 2020 yes I don't. Remember if.
COVID had happened. It might have been 2019, yeah.

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So 5-6 years, let's just say that and he.
Only appeared in a post credit scene.
Not a good look. Just from a studio perspective,
especially with one of Hollywood's best actors right
now working right now, that's a really bad look.
So I think that's just like something to say.
But again, it's not a priority for Marvel right now with

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Doomsday, Secret Wars and rebooting the MCU, and priority
with the X-Men in three years. I think Deadpool will show up in
either doomsday. Or Secret Wars, though, you
know, like the popularity, Yeah,the popularity of the character,
even if he. Doesn't fit seamlessly.
Into that type of project, like Secret Wars, he could be like a

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server of Doom. To see him fighting The
Avengers, I think would be kind of cool.
You know, like Doomsday, I think.
Or excuse me, Deadpool. I think that'd be kind of cool.
Yeah, I don't. I just.
It'd be tough to see where he fits and I understand like he's.
He's a like the character Deadpool is big to us in 2025,

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but in the comics he's not a bigcharacter.
So do I even want to see him in Doomsday or Secret Wars?
I don't. You don't.
You don't want to worry about him.
Like it's just like exactly. Like, there's so much to tackle
in that movie. Speaking of.
Doomsday, what do you think about Pietro Pascal not being
the lead but will play an integral role?
Ain't no shit is going to play an integral role.
Doctor Doom is the main villain of the fucking movie.

(01:13:25):
Are you insane? Of course I'll play an integral
role. And guess what?
Doctor Doom presumably just kidnapped his.
Kid so I hope. That he has a pretty integral
role of the damn movie. But who's the Who's the lead?
Is Doctor Doom the official leadright?
Is RDJ the lead in the movie? The entire time I thought RDJ
was going to be the lead. In Doomsday the movie.

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Is named after his character, soand they're paying him. $60
million for this. Movie I I.
Assume he's going to be the leadbut me too but I also think
like. With the way they just described
that, where they say he plays anintegral role, I don't think
you're like the lead hero in this movie, you know?
Well, remember when I said last week there's talks?

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Thor is the second lead of this.Movie, yes, but Doctor Strange
could be like a. Co lead or like a second?
Lead to Doom, like in the comics, Doctor Strange, Sheriff
Strange, you know, like there's there's a lot of things with
Doctor Strange and Benedict Cumberbatch is a big time actor.
So I could see like a mix of Pedro, like a combination of
Pedro, Chris Hemsworth and Benedict Cumberbatch.

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And then you have Doom, like theJosh bro and Infinity War.
Like this is all setting up likeformulaic.
We like Infinity War, yeah, and like you would say, because of
all. The bouncing around an Infinity
War, Thanos was the the lead, I think of that movie 'cause you
have like the, the separation ofgroups, right?
But in End Game you're like, Thanos is not the lead of that

(01:14:50):
movie. Like it's, it's he, he's very
much supporting and he is the main bad guy.
But you have RDJ and Cap are clearly the leads.
I think it could be setting up for Pedro Pascal to be the lead
of Secret Wars and not Doomsday,you know, and maybe because we
just got to know the character, his debut and and first Steps,

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Doctor Doom, they don't have this doesn't seem like there's
going to be some like a little relationship established in
lore, some rivalry between the two, at least from what we know
so far. I feel like it would have came
up at some time in first steps if that was to exist.
And they talk about all these other villains, the Fantastic
Four are faced and how have theynever, you know, crossed Victor

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Von Doom. So I think maybe they got to
build up Doctor Doom. Obviously he's the lead.
They can build up Pedro a littlebit.
We need to be in more safe, I guess, safer hands that have
lead or at least could or have been a part of the MCU.
So I think Chris Hemsworth couldbe a smart idea, honestly.
But I think you you do need a lot of Mr. Fantastic if you want

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to get full Doctor Doom. Yeah.
And we just don't know what Doomwe're.
Going to be getting here like. We maybe we aren't getting a
Tony Stark variant. Maybe this is going to be a
Victor von Doom and Rd. JS is playing a different guy.
Like we really don't know. Like is Franklin even going to
fix his face in that post credits?
Like we we don't even know like the era of doom.
Like all we know is like we're presumably saying, oh, this is

(01:16:17):
post Tibet Latveria leader Doom because of the Cape and keep in
the mask. Right, like.
There's got to be the doom at the height of his powers, right
about to be at the height of hispowers.
That's pretty much all we know. So the the door is like, sorry,
the book is wide open. I kept thinking about that post
credit. It was heavily implied.

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In the movie that that doctor that appeared at the end is from
828 and was the missing seat from Lavaria during the future
foundations like announcement orSue Storm's announcement.
The more I think about it, it could be massive misdirection
that that is not Doctor Doom. Like for that's going to be in
the foreseeable future or from 828 that Doctor Doom maybe have

(01:17:00):
a has a disfigured face from what he's been doing, like maybe
trying to collect the anchor beings or creating incursions or
like traveling the multiverse. I think that could be maybe a
different Doctor Doom, honestly.I, well, I definitely think
we're, we're going. To get a clean face Doctor Doom
because it's RDJ and they're notgoing to show Rd.

(01:17:21):
JS face being disfigured. I think maybe that's what
Franklin was doing though, right?
That's why I'm I'm saying like. They might show a face of like a
A. Before and but then everything
is going to be after, right? They they might do a flashback
up before, but you don't cast RDJ and not show a perfect RDJ
face, you know, like you just don't do that.
So I think, I think that Franklin will be curing him in

(01:17:41):
some way or at some point we'll be doing that, whatever.
But yeah, I just think this is so open to interpretation right
now. And I just think the bigger
question is for Secret Wars, I think it's some capacity,
whether it's Benedict Cumberbatch, Pedro Pascal, Chris
Hemsworth combination. With an RDJ.

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I think is the most likely outcome here, again, similar to
Infinity War. I think that that's what we're
looking likely here, especially with the 27 person cast list so
far, or chair list, I should say.
Like there's gonna be so many characters here.
We're gonna be bouncing all around.
Who's gonna be the one characterholding us all down?
And that's Rd. JS Doom, similar to Josh Brolin,
Stanhouse and Infinity War. Yeah, well, that's true that

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that core hero cast shrinks a little bit.
For Secret Wars, then you lock in Pedro Pascal, probably the
lead. I'm I'm thinking now about why
the movie like the like I don't know if it was the Russos or
Feige. Maybe from a year ago when they
announced that RDJ was playing Doom.
It's going to be explained why he looks the way he does, why he

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looks like Tony Stark. Is that what Franklin's doing to
him? Did Franklin just make him look
like Tony Stark? You know, that would be some
bullshit, honestly, if they do that.
But like, maybe he wants to looklike Tony Stark for a certain
reason and maybe it is someone else.
You know, that'd be kind of horseshit because like in the

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back of your mind you're like, that's not RDJ, that's not RDJ,
but it is RDJI wouldn't like that.
That does it for the Marvel corner, It does it for the
checkup. I wanted to bring up 1 trailer
here, Ricky Flex and I know we we got the Avatar fire and ash
trailer. That's not really the one I want
to talk about, which is I mean, that is so me be knowing that I,
I think the Avatar franchise is very relevant, irrelevant, but

(01:19:28):
also for some reason, we'll make$2 billion and be the fifth or
sixth highest grossing movie of all time in theater December
19th. I, I have one comment and I said
it to you after we saw the trailer for first steps.
Not enough fire. Not in a fire for the fire and
ash trailer. That's my only comment about the
Avatar trailer. Your thoughts?

(01:19:49):
They tried to do an Odyssey herewith Jurassic.
World rebirth, they. Tried to like, give it the ISO,
didn't work, did not work. And it shows that like great
filmmaking still surpasses a great blockbuster, you know,
like or a great blockbuster. I shouldn't say that a big
blockbuster, I should say. We'll see.
We'll see, I think it seems. Like we're going away from

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Pandora, we might be going to Earth for a little bit.
I think that's been teased that Avatar 4 will take place on
Earth or something of that nature.
You know what? Just I'll watch it when it comes
out. I only can name 1 character from
the movie still JT. Oh, Jake, Jake and the Terry.
I forgot. Like he has a, he has like a
regular. Ass name, I forget.
That I'm just like blue guy Jakeand Natiri.

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I'll I'll say those two. It's impressive that I remember
Natiri. You know, I don't remember the
bad. Who's The Who is the bad guy's
name in this? Don't remember his name,
Colonel. Yeah.
Who's the actor? Stephen what?
What's his name again? Lang.
Yeah. Stephen Lang, Yeah.
I don't remember his name. He's the villain for two
straight movies and we can't name the freaking character he's

(01:20:53):
in. This movie too, by the way.
I saw that. Yeah.
What we? Have to look it up now, God.
We're going to be doing this, man.
But like seriously, like they tried to give it the ISO.
No, nobody cared. We just wanted to get to
Fantastic Four. But somehow Fantastic Four their
their box office this weekend looks like it's going to be a

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61% drop. That's bad.
You don't want to be over 50% bythe way, certain man predictions
looking great, but like if you were more hyped for Fantastic
Four then like than Avatar 3, but Avatar 3 is going to blow
Fantastic Four's box office out of the water it it's insane

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Colonel Miles Querch. I got Colonel right.
Anyone. Could have got that part.
Well, they could have, said Lieutenant.
They could have said General. Do we want to do?
Do we do? We do.
I think we do a thermometer predictor next episode.
I got to watch it again. I only saw it that one time in
theaters. I didn't even watch it online.
Did you want to do it right now?No, I let's watch it together.
Just do a fake one. No, no.

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No thermometer. Predictor will be on.
Monday's episode, another trailer I want to talk about
movie I'm actually fascinated byis Eternity with Elizabeth
Olsen, Miles Teller and Callum Turner.
And the ROM com follows a reality where everyone must
decide who they want to spend eternity with.
In theaters this November, a 24 movie.
Elizabeth Olsen, one of the mostpopular actresses within the

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MCU, or at least was within the MCU, probably will return Miles
Teller post Top Gun Maverick Callum Turner just got engaged
to a lipa. He was in the Steven Spielberg
show the match to the air with Austin Butler using the poison
the boat seems like he's perfectly cast as like

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potentially someone that could steal your wife.
You know, all the characters aredead.
They're in heaven and divine JoyRandolph goes up to Elizabeth
Olsen and says you need to pick who you're going to spend
eternity with. And you get one person and you
have Miles Teller, who was the husband of Elizabeth Olsen when
she died or when he died. But Elizabeth Olsen has a first

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husband that passed away during the war that's played by Callum
Turner. So basically it's Callum Turner
and Miles Teller trying to fightfor their wife to spend eternity
with. I think this movie has a
fascinating concept, Ricky. You know what heaven looks like?
The idea of having both these people that were married to

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Elizabeth Olsen and the difficult decision she has to
make. I think Callum Turner is a
perfect casting for the young, young strapping lad.
You know who was married the the, the, the hero like the, the
military hero that was married to her versus like the person
that you spent most of your lifewith married, which is Miles
Teller. This is a pretty cool concept,

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Rick. It takes us something that we've
all thought about, like heaven. And like, oh, what age are we
when we go to heaven or like, you know, anything like that.
But then it puts a moral elementto it, which makes it compelling
and interesting and curious and makes this trailer good.
It's having a world. It's like, it's like a world.
And it's like you have and. It gives it rules.

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Like usually Heaven's a free forall.
God damn it. You know, like heaven's a free
for all. This is the end and people are
just having fun. You get whatever.
You want but no like no, this is.
Now you have to decide for eternity, and you do not have a
choice. And I think it's kind of cool.
Yeah. And I think Elizabeth Olsen's
going to kill it, per usual. I think this is a.
Good part for her. Callum Turner, you are right.
Like he's perfect for this. Some of that like, whoa, like

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Mr. Sue your girl, but also likea gentleman.
Yes. An interesting twist on like the
Mr. Sue your girl where like it's actually like you could
make the argument he like, quote, UN quote.
How could root for him? Yeah, this is not like James.
Marsden in the notebook, you know this and you're clearly
root for Goss. Like you will be watching this
movie and it's like you see Miles Teller and you look how

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he's not as polished and perfectas Callum Turner, but Callum
Turner is also he's perfect, butalso he's likeable probably.
You know it's going to be a very.
Very fascinating movie. I don't know how it's going to
end. It's.
I don't know if it's going to becliche or not.
I don't. I don't think it will because
it's 824. Yeah.
And it's it's just like no matter what, it's.
Setting you up for heartbreak because it's going to be whoever

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he picks or nobody if there's a bad scenario, because it doesn't
seem like you're rooting againstanybody, which could be a
problem. This movie, by the way, it could
be if there's not, if there's not like a true antagonist or
whatnot, and you say like, oh, heaven's the antagonist, that
could be a true problem. Leave people mad.
Yeah. So that's just something to
watch. Out for but.
I guess another thing I would benervous about was Miles Tower.

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I think him playing like the everyday guy.
I think he's passed it. T top of Maverick killed that
for him. He's too and now he's too big.
He's in, but like commercials he's he's he looks too good.
He has like a 8 pack on in Top Gun Maverick.
They made him ugly. They tried to make him ugly in
this movie. This would have worked. 10 years
ago War Dogs era. Like this doesn't work anymore

(01:25:54):
for him. I think it's interesting for him
to do this. I like how he's doing it and
tempting it, but I just don't know if people are going to
accept Miles Teller being the guy.
Like, oh like can he get the girl?
Like dude, I just like. We see his wife in the.
Commercial with him, she's smoking hot.
She's everywhere like there's there's just no way you're
selling me on this. Maybe it could have been a

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better casting, you know, like top.
I feel when Top Gun. Maverick happened like pre Top
Gun Maverick, he maybe could have done this, but yeah, I
think so too. He's like, he doesn't have a
love interest in the. Movie only one who?
Does get one is Tom Cruise, but like he'd be the next guy to get
a love interest in the movie. You know, he's he's very you
root for him as Rooster and Top Gun Maverick.

(01:26:35):
You root for every character andTop Gun Maverick, but I don't
know, he's the guy with the shirt off dancing and stuff.
It's like I feel like you got topick more of an average Joe.
But they did try and make him asugly as they could.
Like he didn't look. There was no he's no count
terrible. Yeah.
But like. All right, hear me.
Out here thinking. Of Top Gun, Maverick, hot names

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in the street, Lewis Pullman would have been a good pick.
Lewis Pullman would have been a.Great pick because he has like
that innocence. To him, yeah, that's that's what
you needed. Like this movie, like Callum
Turner is probably, He's a gentleman, obviously, great
looking handsome dude, but you need someone who is like, has
like a lot of heart to play the other role to balance it out.

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Can Miles Turner be that guy? I don't think so.
Like he never been that guy thathas like all the heart in a
movie. I feel like that would be like a
Lewis Pullman type of role. Yeah.
And like you think a spider headkind of struggled a little bit
in? That I think Chris Hemsworth was
good in that wacky role, but again, the movie itself is was a
struggle. I think Lewis Pullman like would
be more your average show, like he was in Thunderbolts.

(01:27:39):
I think that would have been a better fit, you know?
But we'll see. I I did like the trailer, I did
like the twist. I like it, he shed.
That like. I'm a Dick or I'm a.
Douche like type of thing that Ithink he had going on for a
while after Top Gun Maverick, but I still don't think right he
of him as his kind gentle soul, which I think you might need in
that role. You want to let's do.

(01:28:01):
It's a louder predictor for thisone, though I'm interested now.
I am a little bit concerned at 824.
Great cast. I think it's going to be solid.
I think Elizabeth Olsen, who I think is the lead of this movie,
she's she's on like on fire, like seems like everyone loves
whatever she does. I think she's going to be a
great lead in this and she has to make the ultimate decision.

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Things going to lead to probablythe best performance non marvel
that we've ever gotten from her out.
That's not saying a ton. I mean she wasn't what was that
movie with Jesse Plyman the show?
No, I like the show. Oh my God, she was.
Love. She was accused murderer.
Yeah. It's amazing how that just came

(01:28:42):
and went. Huh, I watched the whole thing.
So did I. She's good in it, but.
It came and went like it didn't even.
Hold. Did she get nominated for an
Emmy for that? I don't remember.
God, I've got to look it up. That's embarrassing.
You can look it up, but I think this is going to be the best
thing she's. Done at least since Wanda
Maximoff probably could be like the loving death.

(01:29:04):
I knew it was loving something. I said love death and something.
But yeah, so I'm going to go with oh man, I don't want to
give it too high because I. Have because another thing is I
haven't heard about this. Project at all you know because
I I feel like if it's an 824 movie we're usually on top of
it. We've never talked about this on

(01:29:25):
the checkup Callum Turner I'm waiting for like the the turn.
I thought it was going to be masters of the Air, but still.
He's not solidified yet. Go this 70 eight.
I'm 68. OK, wow.
OK, yeah, I I think this might be.
Polarizing and I, I. Think you bearing up a great

(01:29:47):
point. Why haven't we heard more about
this? A 24 Oscar winner Divine doing
Randolph Cal Turner dating Dua Lipa also a big name Elizabeth
Olsen a plastic name. I I What's going on here?
Are we hiding something? I don't know comes out in
November still have time like I don't know, but I'm again

(01:30:07):
premises polarizing. We'll see.
That's the biggest thing, I think, for people that cover
like the news of movies. And then the movies themselves,
so much like we do, have we not heard about this with like these
three massive stars? Like, that's crazy to me.
All right, that does it for Trailer Roundup and that does it
for episode 478 of TDI. Make sure you guys are following
the pod because on Monday's episode we are going and

(01:30:29):
reviewing another comedy. We are doing the Naked Gun
reboot with Liam Neeson, maybe alegacy sequel, whatever you want
to call it. And then we have a very special
draft in honor of Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson's newly
announced courtship. We'll be doing the best

(01:30:50):
Hollywood couples. Hollywood.
But how do you want to describe it, Ricky?
Yeah. Flings couples real life though.
Real life, so we're talking. Celebrity couples, Hollywood
couples, the scandalous and all.Check it out.
That's going to be a great draft.
And what else? The week after, I think I was

(01:31:12):
thinking about you folks. We do have to do weapons the
week after, but I think we should do a double feature with
Together. We should we should review both
those movies in tandem. It's a horror episode.
Yeah. It'd be interesting to see in
the box office this. Weekend, see how many people see
together. This was at Sundance by the way
I think. And this movie was like I got
Sundance late winter festival again, all Indies, very low

(01:31:36):
budget. Are you talking about Eternity
Together, together? And it's like.
This movie you kept hearing things about it, you know, and
how good it is, but it's a body horror and horrors you to do
well and has Dave Franco AllisonBree 2 recognizable faces like
they've been doing this press tour of all like kind of leaning
into like the biting and whatnot.

(01:31:59):
Good press tour on The Tonight Show.
Like let's see how it does at the.
Box office. And we'll touch on it.
A freaky trailer and it's leading to people.
Like the the movie promotions also bragging about the
experience a little bit of like get out type of feel for me,
like summer horror movie, you know, not like kind of building

(01:32:20):
up like anticipation for it. And then the insane theatrical
experience. I can kind of feel that too.
But Weapons is something I can'twait for.
I was going to go see. So tonight I'm going to see
Naked Gun. I thought in me Ricky Flex
talked about a potential movie swap.
I think it's going to be better if we personally, I don't I'll

(01:32:40):
hear what you think, but I thinkit's better if we both see the
same movie. It's better if we both see
together because I think that's it's like a 90 high 90s
percentage on Rotten Tomatoes. And so is weapons.
Like that is going to be one of our most listened to episodes of
the year. I will say together and weapons,
same thing. So we'll just do them both at

(01:33:01):
the same time. People want to hear that, Rick.
Yeah. Weapons.
That should be another. Interesting.
Box office one we'll be able to go see that movie.
You know, I think to get like Who Will Win the box office
weapons or together like who whowill have a better opening
weekend. I think it's what conversation
what cause weapons it's. Not really their.

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Promotion of the movie in. Terms of like, you know, the
hijinks that Alison Brie and Dave Franco are doing, but
they've been dropping like the opening clip and a scene and
people are like, what the fuck am I watching right now?
You know, it's really, I think garnering anticipation.
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