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- 'Spider-Man 4' update and suit reveal

- 'Small Soldiers 2' on the way?

- 'Naked Gun' Review

- Iconic Hollywood Couples Top-Billing Draft

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This is the Drive In podcast Take One.

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Howdy Doody. Welcome to episode 479 of TDI.
This is Doctor O on the horn to start per usual and as always
I'm joined by my Co host, my best friend and the love doctor
of TDI Ricky flicks. How are you my friend?

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Are you ready to talk about iconic Hollywood couples?
Doc, it's good to see you, good to talk to you.
And no, this is something that I'm not good at.
I am not good at identifying celebrity couples.
I think the ones that I'm most interested in aren't the ones
that everyone's interested in, but I do acknowledge their

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importance in society and the tabloids.
I do acknowledge how people get swept up in them and how they
kind of consume media attention.We are engaging in the gossip
part of Hollywood, which we don't usually engage in.
We'd like to talk movie news, but like about actual movies,
actors, directors, upcoming projects, different movie

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universes, franchises. But today we are going all
People magazine on your ass and we are talking about the hot
couples throughout the history of Hollywood.
And why are we doing this, Ricky?
I think that should be explained.
This was the week of love. Love was in the air.
We had Anna de Armas go in public with Tom Cruise.

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You have Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson, stars of Naked Gun,
the movie that we are reviewing today, also going public that
they are together. Also quite the age difference,
similar to on the Armas and Tom Cruise, just not as egregious.

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And then as a third place other couple that got announced this
week, it was Justin Trudeau and Katy Perry and Ricky.
Did you see that clip of Trudeauby himself jamming out to
firework that went across the timeline last night?
No, but I bet it was as cringe. Where is he has everything else
he does. Yes, that is the most cringey

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couple. Even separately they're the most
cringey people put together. Feels like wonder Twin powers
activate, activate, cringe thosetwo.
But yeah, which couple is more surprising to you between the
first two I listed? I definitely it's got to be Tom
Cruise on a De Armas. I'm like the armless likes the

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older. Older folk, huh?
Affleck here, like that, that's just insane. 63 versus 37.
That's like, whoa, like if Pamela Anderson, like Liam
Neeson, hey, like the man lost his wife tragically like 20
years ago and he hasn't really been like in the limelight

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romantically. And now like in this new movie,
Pamela Anderson, C73, she's 58. They both are on the older side
out of the arms. It's like one of the most
stunning woman in the world. And Tom Cruise, like, hey, this
is a Tom Cruise stand podcast. But wow, this guy who was shut
out from Shakira a couple years ago, F1 in Miami getting out of

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the Armis. Like, good for him, good for
him. I want to know what Anna de
Armis's dad's father situation is like after going from Affleck
to Tom Cruise. It's a little bit, you know,
suspect, but you know, you like what you like.
Pam Anderson and Liam Neeson, I thought kind of had a wholesome,

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heart warming feel to it becauseof like obviously Pam Anderson
origins. And you think of, you know,
Tommy Lee, you think of the sex tape, you think of Baywatch, you
think of Liam Neeson, who has had such an illustrious
Hollywood career and who has done every genre of movie and
someone that you don't see him going after the sexy, you know,

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he is like more of a, a gentleman.
You know, you don't see him in the same vein as Tommy Lee.
But it's a different time. Pam Anderson's nearly 60 years
old, still stunning. I think she looked great.
And Naked Gun, although it seemswholesome and heart warming, I
do have a confession after watching Naked Gun.
I think this is a total publicity stunt.

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And I do not think they're actually going to stay together
for more than a month. Yeah, I have bad feelings that
this is a publicity stunt. The Tom Cruise on of the Armas I
do have, I do think has some legs.
I I do. They just were in this movie
together that they're trying to shop around or they're they're
trying to be in this movie together that they're trying to
shop around. Warner Brothers said his budget

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is too much. They're not going to do it.
Paramount's not going to do it. It's going to be interesting to
see what studio kind of takes that on with this couple.
Is this is publicity stunt with this couple now like trying?
To spell the movie, spell the movie.
You could question that, but if you had a pick between the two,
I think that has legs versus because we again, the honor the
arm is older men experience versus the naked gun spoof

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element and the death of the comedy, then promoting the death
of the comedy. Please go see this movie.
They're trying everything to getthis movie at least, you know,
make it profitable. So I think if you had to pick
one that has some legs, it's going to be the Tom Cruise under
the armis, unfortunately for Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson.

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I, I think they're trying to sell this movie, Naked Gun, Pam
and Liam, I think they are goingfor it.
And they're trying to bring backthe comedy like you're talking
about and the story of Naked Gun, like it follows kind of
what Liam Neeson has gone through.
And that's when I started to getlike a feeling like, oh, it's a
publicity stunt where Liam Neeson lost his wife, I think in

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the late 2000s and has never found like another partner since
then. And then he does in this movie
and it's Pamela Anderson. And then they date in real life.
That's like, you know, alarm bells start going off in your
head a little bit. But you know, let's just move on
from that little bit because we did have, before we get to the
Naked Gun review, we did have some news stories that hit both

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late last night and this morningthat are definitely worthy of
discussion on this podcast, specifically regarding superhero
fare. Today's Spider Man day, Ricky,
happy Spider Man day. You know, I know we're
celebrating. I don't know how we'll be
celebrating. If you go watch one movie during
Spider Man die to celebrate, what would you watch?
Spider Man 2 Spider man Tobey Maguire in contention?

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Maybe. We probably would watch both to
be honest. Double.
Feature. Yeah, I think I would do the
double feature. I would have to watch at least
the first Spider Man and then right into Spider Man 2 to cap
off the evening. So Spider Man Day, but also
Brand New Day has begun filming the day we are recording.
And there also was a teaser for Spider Man Brand New Day.
And it's amazing because the movie hasn't been shot yet and

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somehow there's a teaser. Well, it was a reveal sort of of
Tom Holland's new suit in the Spider Man movie.
And it was kind of funny that it's going to it's going to
break the Internet that this like little short teaser.
It was similar to like when Batman got revealed, Pattinson
got revealed and his, you know, before the movie shot and it

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showed like the test footage andlike it had like, you know, the
infrared like background and everything.
And the Internet went nuts. This one also doesn't show like
the mask of Spider Man, but it has like raised webbing on it.
And it's like really funny to see like notable outlets saying
like the raised webbing is seen on the new Spider Man suit.

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You know, those nerdy things youcould think of.
But it got me going. My spider Spidey senses went off
once I saw the raised, you know,webbing.
I felt like I was watching a pretty much Sam Raimi's type of
look for a spider suit. You add the Sam Raimi score
behind it. You would think you're just
watching the Sam Raimi suit tease like from 25 years ago,

(08:32):
which they didn't have it, whichit never existed.
But were you not surprised by this like not just the tease
like go past that, but the actual like we're diving deep
nerdy into this costume, into the actual soup.
Were you surprised that it looksthis similar?
I. You know what I mean?

(08:53):
Like it's kind. Of.
Weird. The suit is homemade, so I think
it's going to have a different texture than like the nanotech
type of thing that we had with the Iron Spider suit and also
less CGI probably in this movie,less of a budget compared to
previous Holland Spider man movies.
So I'm like I like how it has a texture to it.
I feel like the last, I guess classic spider like spider man,

(09:15):
like homecoming suit. It felt like it was computer
generated. This one actually is going to
have some dirt on it. Hat is raised webbing feel to
it. I like what the approach that
they're doing. This is a dirty ass suit.
Like he's not cycling through different suits.
It has it's like game game worn game after game.

(09:37):
I like I I like it. I'm not surprised by it just
based off Kevin Feige's recent comments that it's going to be a
street level story less here, less like fantastic, you know,
elements to these movies. I I'm not surprised by it.
Yeah, but I guess I am surprisedby it a little bit because I I
agree with everything you said, but the my only difference would
be at the end of No way Home when they show the amazing

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sight, Spider Man lighter blue suit.
I, you know, talk about Spidey senses tingling.
That got me tingling and that feels like old school spider Man
and St. level Spider man. And here again, I like the suit.
I think it's too much like the Sam Raimi suit.
I would have liked to see the big screen old school Amazing
Spider Man type of lighter blue suit like we saw in No Way at

(10:23):
the end of No Way Home. With parallel.
Coincide with that. A little time jump maybe it's
been the same suit that he has some like wear and tear on it,
but also to me like the tone of the video, which is terrible to
say because it's test footage. But like maybe the color of the
suit also reminded me of like Amazing Spider Man.
Like to me, it was almost like across of the two, like Garfield

(10:43):
Spider Man suit with Raimi's, you know, But I think it's going
to be the same suit. It's just a little more wear and
tear, maybe look a little more shiny when it comes to the
actual movie. Did you see?
So they're filming in Glasgow, right in England right now.
They shut down 60 different streets in Glasgow for the first
day of shooting. Good sign for street level type

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of Spider Man story. But did you see like one of
these tanks? It had a symbol on it and I
think it gave away who the main villain of the movie is going to
be. Did you see?
This. Wow, so OK, this is great.
So I'm going to pull up the screenshot just so I can refer
to it. So the tank in I've seen on set,

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it had like a, it was, it's a demon tank and it's supposed to
house the inner demons. And these are a group of
villains that work under a main villain.
And that main villain is Mr. Negative, a very popular hero
when it comes to the Spider Man video game, one that has not
been seen on the big screen before.

(11:54):
We're getting probably Mr. Negative as the big bat.
I think that kind of was a teaseand it's amazing that this
information and that already is loose and we haven't even
started shooting yet. That is nuts to me.
But what do you think about Mr. Negative potentially being the
main villain? I think that's good for the
street level story. I think it's also good if we

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really look at it for the Punisher.
That makes a lot of sense why the Punisher is in this movie
then, because there's clear tiesin the comics with him.
Man, I, I, I will say my only thing is Sony, do we trust Sony
doing Mr. Negative? I don't know.
And this movie is coming out predoomsday and it's still

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technically an MCU movie. How is this going to is this
like going to be a true MCU typemovie or is this more like a
Sony movie? Like it's going to be very
separate from the MCU, You know?Like this tells me like Mr.
Negative St. level story, the Punishers in this you're hearing

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a couple other minor St. level spider man villains are in this
as well. Like is this is just kind of
telling me like this might just be like hey, like this is just a
random movie. This could have came out not
just before Doomsday. Like this could have came out
like 2 years ago. It doesn't really matter that
it's coming out before Doomsday is what I'm saying.
That's kind of like what did theInklings tell me with a Mr.
Negative type villain. Yeah, so maybe less ties to

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what's going to happen. I with the two major features
that are smashed, I guess I'm no, they're after right.
So doomsday is after brand new day.
Yes. Is that correct?
Yeah, because yeah. But like, this is telling me
like, oh, there's less tied intodoomsday.
This is less. Yeah, no.
I got, I got what he said. Yeah, I think so.
I think that is OK with me to behonest.

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Like I, I, I feel like you did. You didn't really do enough with
phase four and five to build up a doomsday.
You made the pivot from Kang. You know, it's too late to like
jamming into the Spider Man story when you already have
people thinking it's going to beSt. level, that it's going to be
like a Peter Parker joint. For the most part.
I you can't really tease too much of doomsday.

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I think, especially when it's been rumored that the events of
this movie are happening at the same time as doomsday.
You know, maybe it'll explain what the world looks like
because of the effects happeningglobally.
Maybe I don't know, but I think this is going to stand on its
own, which is what people want. Also I I dumb with spider man

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but also Small Soldiers one of our favorite movies as children.
One of our most re watched movies as children.
The Co writer of the film back in the 90s Adam Rifkin, he says
it's time for a sequel to this cult classic Ricky Flex.
I think we should do a throwbackreview of Small Soldiers.

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Thoughts. Yeah, yeah.
Small soldiers. God.
Tommy Lee Jones, Phil Hartman. Rest in peace.
David Cross, 1998. This is peak childhood, like
movies coming out. Kristen Dunst forgot she was in
the Member. Yeah, bring her back.
Like, I think we might have to. Who knows what Gregory Smith's

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up to, but yeah. Transformers.
What's the guy's name? That actor he was in, He's all
there's the he was the dad and small soldiers.
Did you say his name? It's not David Cross.
He's like the nerd. And yeah, no.
It's not it. It's a he's a, he's a very much
of that guy. Our cousin told us that he

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reminded us of of our dad. You know, it's that guy.
You know what I'm talking about.Crap.
No, But I I know, I know. I forget his name, but I know.
Jay Moore. It's Shia's dad and transformer,
same guy. Yes, God, What is his name?
I like that guy is the most thatguy that's ever existed whereas

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Transformers and he's actually like a most regular regular guy
in movies. Wow, he doesn't pop up in the
1st 10 people on the cast list for Transformers?
Kevin Dunn, It's Kevin Dunn. Kevin Dunn, Yeah, he was in
Veep. Yes, but he is he is maybe the

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best person to represent the common man.
You know, that's Kevin Dunn. I want to see him come back for
this. You know, I need to see Kevin
Dunn, but also Tommy Lee Jones. Like when you get older, you
really appreciate Major Chip Hazard.
Like you appreciate that performance, man.
It is something else. Like if if Tommy Lee Jones is

(16:38):
not Major Chip Hazard, that movie is not nearly as electric
or memorable. Like people want to talk about
the fugitive JFK like these iconic Tommy Lee going for it
type of roles. But major chip hazard.
I was looking up some of his quotes because I needed to be

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like I needed to be transported back to the 90s.
I want to read a couple to you because they are so good.
Nick Nitro's battery has run out.
Buddhist memory lives on. And then Archer VS Major Chip
Hazard. Great rivalry.
Polar opposites is Archer says Major Chip Hazard.

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Gorgonite scum. Leave Alan alone.
Your fight is with me. You've got a lot of guts.
Let's see what they look like. And then he opens the
switchblade and stabs him in theleg.
Dude, that was crazy. He was unhinged In this movie.
We are the commando elite. Everything else is just a toy
like this guy was on another level.

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When it comes down to like, the best voice performances ever, no
one brings up Tommy Lee Jones's major chip hazard, and it
frankly upsets me. Yeah, I'm looking at it now.
So this was going to be on the weekend streaming Rex, but it's
not streaming anywhere. It's only for rent.
I'll buy it. I'll buy the movie.
We have it on VHS. Yeah, we do have it on VHS, but

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God, guess what the Bushes was for this movie?
Small Soldiers 98. Oh my God.
Talking toys. Bunch of toys, but there's a lot
of explosions at that movie. It's a pretty big third act,
I'll say. I'll say $40 million.
You got it, $40 million. No way.
Let's go. Hey, gross 72 million worldwide,

(18:29):
so not exactly. It did 55,000,000 domestically.
So it beat its budget domestically, which is what you
want. So yeah, it was a successful
movie, but it wasn't a box office smash that a Toy Story 2
the following year was, you know, like it's not going to be
like those Pixar movies. So no wonder there wasn't a
sequel in this like probably thepeak of or the the start of like

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this animated Holy crap, box office moments, you know, and
start like train. So legacy sequels are popular.
Small soldiers don't like again,not a box up, box up a smash.
I won't say cult classic, but I think has a following.
I think it would do well. Oh, cult classic for sure.
Come on, you're us. But you got to look at the big

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like. You like grew up in the 90s for
sure. Late 90s when we put out that.
News of the potential sequel andyou tweeted at me, we had a
couple freaking mainstays of theDrive In podcast, Mayo and Nez
saying that they want in on a throwback review immediate.
It's big in the drive in universe we will do that, but
I'm saying like at large, is it going to be bigger than the 98

(19:34):
version was? I hope so, but I I don't know
man. There's got to be some type of
poll we can put on Instagram about the popularity of small
soldiers. Like would you want to see a
sequel to Small Soldiers like and what you could do?
Because Adam Rifkin also said that the Gorgon, the Gorgon, the
Gorgon Gorgonites reach Gorgon, you know, have major chip hazard

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invading Gorgon. Come on, dude, come on.
And I think you also have a major chip hazard action figure.
Yes. Dude like why is that not in the
background behind? You I got to find it.
You got to find that. If not, I'm running over your
house, I'm stealing it, and I'm putting it behind me because

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that might be the coolest action.
Thing I know. That isn't like from any type of
comic book universe or any type of franchise like that stands on
its own amazing design. It's amazing that a character
looks like that doesn't get its own sequel.
Make a major chip hazard movie. Let's do a spin off Forget,
forget the Gorgonites. Make one for him.

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Yeah, and I'm just looking back at this cast now.
Like we've mentioned, Greg Smith, Kirsten Dunst's kids,
Tommy Lee Jones, Chip Hazard, Phil Hartman as Phil David
Cross, Jay Moore, Dennis Leary, Kevin Dunn, Frank Langella,
Jesus Archer. What happened to?
Alan, dude, what happened to that actor?

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Who's sorry? Alan, the main character.
Yeah, Gregory Smith, that's whatI'm saying.
What? Happened to him.
I don't know, I'll click on him real quick, but Kirsten Dunst
will have to come back. Gregory Smith's only 42 years
old. Oh God.
So 98 was in Small soldiers was in a show ever would until 06

(21:21):
was in the show Rookie Blue until 20/15/2010 to 2015.
I think he's done acting. I think he retired from acting.
Yeah, I, I, I'm not totally surprised.
It's not like you think of that character.
When you George Kennedy. Small soldiers.
Yeah, again, George Kennedy. Like Naked Gun, we should.

(21:44):
Do I? I think late August we're going
to have, we're going to have, I think an opportunity to do a
throwback review. I mean, did you map it out?
Is there going to be an opportunity in August for us to
slide in a review? So we do have a throwback review
on slate, but it was more for Jaws when it's getting really

(22:05):
released in theaters, but. We'll, we'll, we'll it'd be a
tough look if we replace jaws with small.
Soldiers Anniversary 75 finally get to see in the theaters.
Yeah, we just got small soldiersthat would.
Be like an TDI thing of all time.
Most TDI thing if we were alwaysjaws with small soldiers.

(22:26):
We'll, we'll, we'll take a look.We'll get some more listens for
us. Probably small soldiers.
You know, it seems like it will be like, yes, when was the last
time anyone talked about this movie?
And everyone's like, everyone hears about Jaws every 5 seconds
on this in this world. Anyway, you know where my vote
lies. Speaking of beloved movies,
let's talk about the reboot for Naked Gun, or I should say, I

(22:48):
guess the legacy sequel. We can call it that.
No carryover characters, a lot of sons of iconic characters.
So let's get to it. We'll get into Rotten Tomatoes
and we'll get to the synopsis. Then we'll hit our initial
reactions. So Rotten Tomatoes, Naked Gun is
coming in on 90% critic score and an 87% audience score.

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Synopsis reads only one man has a particular set of skills to
lead police squad and save the world.
Love that synopsis. One sentence and it doesn't give
you any details because none of the details are necessary.
Ricky Flex Naked Gun is back. Liam Neeson back, Pam Anderson

(23:29):
is back. I want to talk about before we
get to initial reaction theatrical experience.
What was your experience like seeing this in theaters?
Crowd give me everything that itwas, that it was like.
So saw this Thursday night preview showing.
I saw it in one of the smaller theaters, so like Superman,

(23:51):
Fantastic Four, those were getting the big boy theaters.
So this got delegated or relegated whatever to the
smaller theater and it was pretty packed.
It was probably 85% full and demographic was pretty leaned
older but there were some younger people in the audience.
Saw this with Miss Flicks and her parents who never go to the

(24:13):
theater I guess. They are they fans of Naked Gun?
They actually unrelated re watched it like a month ago.
So they were like, oh we'll we'll go with you.
And I was like, wait, what? I was very confused.
Miss Flicks Dad has not been to a movie theater in at least 15

(24:35):
years pre reclining seats. So that was an experience in and
of itself. He was very confused the entire
time as in before the theater but walking in.
But I would just say like older people love this shit.
You know this like this was likethis was joke after joke spoof

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genre. This was like what the 70s and
80s were right? So the older people in the
audience were laughing up a storm at this.
Like we have not really gotten like this spoof type of movie
since like Austin Powers really that worked right?
Early 2000 ish. So I think older people were
just like we're like, wow, like I needed a movie like this.
And they were laughing throughout the whole time,

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right. So like theater experience was
good. There were like again, there was
there was a joke a minute. So like not all of them hit.
So there were some scenes where like some jokes that like were
played but didn't get laughs. And I was like, oh, that's kind
of awkward silence. But then there was some that
like I didn't laugh at, but thenthe whole theater laughed at.
And then vice versa where I laughed at and the theater was

(25:38):
like, don't laugh at this. So it's just like, it was such a
weird like conundrum, you know, it was, it was so weird.
It was very mixed, but overall good.
Like mixed as in like when to laugh because of the audience
demographics. So.
My theater is also one of the smaller theaters at our local
AMC. But it was, I would say 65 to
70% full on a Thursday night, you know, and that's when you

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still have Fantastic Four and you have Superman out at the
same time, you know, and it was an older demographic.
But my, my crowd came in heavy with the chuckles heavy.
They were cackling. I was cackling.
I would say one guy in the back laughed at literally 90% of the

(26:23):
jokes, 90%. I had a guy like that too.
I had a corner like that. He came out of that movie with a
six pack. You know, like him in this joke.
It's a machine gun of jokes. It's a barrage and it's every
character throwing up. It's not just Liam Neeson as
Frank Draben. It's not that just Paul Walter
Hauser. Every character that speaks is

(26:45):
intending for the audience to laugh.
And my theater experience, I'm going to say this is the best
theater experience I had all year, so far all year during one
like I want to say 15 minute segment of this movie, it's like
the body Cam footage scene that with Liam Neeson.

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And he's got like the coffee, he's eating the chili dogs,
right? He's shitting himself.
He's going to the bathroom and there's a line that he pops his
gun to have it go off. So everyone clears out the
bathroom. I.
Cried laughing. I cried laughing.
I turned to my girlfriend and I,I turned and then I went like

(27:26):
this. I was just pointing at my eye
going tears, tears. And then she went looked at me
and she pointed at her face. She's like tears.
Then we turned back and we just kept giggling and there would be
a joke that happens. You can't even keep up with all
the jokes because you're laughing at the one that
happened 5 minutes ago. I miss when comedies were like
this. We're literally they're so

(27:48):
intent on trying to make you laugh, you can't even keep up
with the jokes. So I thought this in terms of
theatrical experience, amazing, amazing.
And I just saw fantastic Ford Superman and my best experience
was Naked Gun. So that tells me this was
awesome if it's trying to bring the comedy back and do it and I
think an effective way. Ricky Flex Other initial
reactions you had. I would say like, this is

(28:10):
exactly what you want to see. I we talked about horror movies
a lot because those get made more frequently because those
are just box office hits, right?They are good for studios PNL
statements. You know their profits, right?
They could have low budgets, butpeople love seeing them in
theaters, right? They love seeing it with people.
And I think with comedies, you could have the same thing,
right? The problem is there's so many

(28:31):
other like venues or not venues outlets to get comedy versus
horror right, where people are less likely to go to the theater
and see a comedy when they couldjust watch a Netflix special or
stand up or TikTok or memes and social media.
So it was nice change of pace toget another outlet, the old

(28:53):
school outlet quote UN quote with a bunch of people watching
a movie that was just focused ona joke a minute and you're not
looking for 100% hit rate, like maybe a Happy Gilmore 2 was
trying to do or like other comedies nowadays are trying to
do where they're trying to just say, hey, like we're not going
to do a joke a minute. We're not going to lean into the
comedy genre. We're going to try to make a

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movie and then have jokes with it.
But that hit rate is really low here.
It's like our hit rate is going to be lower, but we're going to
give you 1000 and it's going to cover all different types of
like people that are going to laugh at some, not others.
And I might laugh at some and not others.
So it was nice to get that different outlet and different
genre of comedy. It was just amazing to be back

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in a theater that like all was trying and having fun with the
movie, trying to laugh, you know, not a comedy where it was
trying to be too high concept, where you had to think too much
about it or you didn't know whether it was appropriate to
laugh or not. Like Friendship was I, I think
we both like that movie that came out earlier this year.
The theater is not all on board,you know, not everyone is

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pushing towards like the same experience with that movie.
It's way different. Watching this movie, it felt
like, damn, let let's just freaking have fun with this
thing. Who cares about the plot?
Who cares about like what the intentions are of Danny
Houston's villain, right? Or the, you know, arc of Frank
Draben Junior? No one gives a fuck.

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Everyone is trying to laugh their ass off right now.
And I think the movie understoodthe assignment.
Yeah. So it's just night.
It was almost like the the crowdamplifies or echoes the
laughter, and it just makes you want to laugh.
I don't think I felt that since,like 2014 with 22 Jump St.
You know, I think, I don't thinkI really had that feeling in a

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theater. It was like refreshing to come
back and just everyone understand the assignment here.
And I think Liam Neeson's a hugereason why this movie was, I
think, successful. Especially everyone's making
jokes, but like he's the most integral one because he's
getting most of the lines. Like Paul Walter Hauser is like
he's a, he's a partner in this, but doesn't get a lot of screen
time. And he's also hilarious.

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But a lot of it falls on the delivery of Liam Neeson.
And he's, you know, in his main character, he, I want to say
like similar to Leslie Nielsen. Like Leslie Nielsen was like a
dramatic actor with a great deadpan delivery where he's
saying it and it's not supposed to be funny, but what he's
saying is hilarious. And the fact that he's such a

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serious person doing it makes itall that much more funny.
I think Liam Neeson was a perfect like Frank Durbin
Junior, like he is a guy when you think of like his comedic
talents. I think of Ted.
I think of him with the tricks are for kids, you know, type of
thing. The serious delivery he has and
that, but he's saying something,something so absurd.
That's why he was perfect to be this character, you know, an

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actor that had a dramatic career, that had an action
career. But now you have to like hear
him say these ridiculous things.It works.
He's a perfect. He was a perfect follow up to
Leslie Nielsen. Yeah, it's Seth MacFarlane.
Who's the producer or a producer?
On. He was just saying how this week
on, like, he was doing like promo for this movie and he was

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saying like, yeah, I didn't really do much on this movie
except I was like, pretty much responsible for forgetting Liam
Neeson hires saying like, you need to cast this man as like
your Frank John Junior because not because he's a great comedic
actor, because he's a great actor.
And in this genre of comedy, thespoof, you need to deliver it
straight. You just need a guy that's able

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to go through the jokes, but like, not like laugh with the
audience. You know what a comedic actor
would do. And that's kind of what he was
saying, which I thought was a really good point.
And I was like, wow, this movie would not work if it was like, I
don't know, put your comedian inthere.
Like, I don't know who's the comedian that's trying to act
right now. Oh man, like Ellis.

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Yeah, like Shane goes in, this would not work.
No, it's got to be someone that has the deadpan delivery, that
believes what they're saying, even if exactly.
Yeah like the guy is literally like pretending like he is a cop
but like the script itself and everything around him is a joke.
Cartoon is a satire on cops, butthe guy thinks he's a cop and

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he's playing a cop. That's why this works really
well. I would say like if again,
Leslie Nielsen I think is a legend because I think he is the
best at those type of deliveries.
But I do think Liam Neeson was the next best thing right for
this era. Someone that the general movie
going audience has seen him for 20 years or younger audience has

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seen him for 20 years in action movies and he's in this like
action type of like character, acop.
But again, surrounding it is different.
But you're believing that he's acop.
You're believing that he's kicking ass even though is
absolutely ridiculous. He's freaking beating somebody
with their own arms. You know, it's so stupid.
And I forgot that Liam Neeson was in A Million Ways to Die in

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the West. Directed also by Seth MacFarlane
that's he explains the relationship too and how it's
evolved. He understands comedy.
Seth MacFarlane understands comedy.
He's done how much with Family Guy.
How many decades has he been doing Family Guy and he's had
success in the big screen too. He understands Liam Neeson.
He understand what what he how he's such an A crucial element

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to continuing the story of police squad and Naked gun.
I think Liam Neeson might be oneof the most underrated movie
stars ever. The fact that he can do a Steven
Spielberg Schindler's List, he can do the dramatic of the
dramatic and then evolve into anaction star later in his career,
Usually a starting point for a lot of actors.

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And then he can also do comedy. And if this movie sells, that's
what I'm saying. Like if he can take a a spoof
type of comedy and have it do well at the box office when all
of these type of movies basically don't exist anymore
and comedies in general are going to streaming services.
It's just like another notch in the belt of Liam Neeson.
And I feel like because he's done some action movies after

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taken that were just felt like taken Junior, you know, they
were just like all lesser than taken.
He's kind of gotten some Flack for that.
But the fact that he sells, dude, Liam Neeson sells and he's
doing at the age of 73, one of the most underrated, I guess,
movie stars of his generation ofnot of all time.
Honestly, if this movie sells. Yeah, I, I, I was going to say,

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I think he's before this properly rated because if you
really look at it like Schindler's List and like pre
21st century, it's like, wow, this is like a great actor, you
know, but then 21st century it'slike, oh, he's going through a
little bit of a lull. He's getting older.
Like he's probably going to retire, but then he has taken
and then he becomes an action star movie star, not like a

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great actor, but he's, he moves on and he does.
I'm a great action * And he doessome comedies.
You know, I was like, wow, this guy like he's like just a movie
star. Not necessarily.
Maybe it's all just like it's because of his talent.
It's. Just like, I guess I'm spitting
this to say like, I think he's properly rated as a movie star
now. And I think we forget that this

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guy is a capital, a actor. You know, and I think he.
Actually might be underrated as an actor because of his range
and he's doing this at 73. Like I think it's impressive.
Like dude, Jack Nicholson stopped acting when he was 73.
Like De Niro's still going, but like, I don't know, like he was
in the internal line. He's doing like I, I, I, I do
have respect for Liam Neeson saying like, F it, let's try to

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bring back the comedy, you know,let's bring back the Naked Gun.
Like that is such a bold move. And then doing Pamela Anderson
like next to you. It is insane.
And. Make it like her, you know,
competent in terms of chemistry with like alongside him, you
know, and like I, I think like. I think we look at Pamela
Anderson now post The last Showgirl, we're like, Oh yeah,

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like that's good casting. She was they did this before
that. The the last showgirl was like a
really like a filmed in a coupleweeks last year and then they
quickly edit it cut like cut it up and released it that year.
Like that was like really short turn around.
Like, this is like pre Pamela Anderson being back, you know,
and they casted her in this and we were like, whoa, this is this

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isn't shaping up to be good. But now we're like, oh, Pamela
Anderson, this would be perfect for her because she's back.
But you got to remember, like, holy crap.
Like, that was such a bold choice too.
And Liam Neeson was able to kindof like, again, develop some
chemistry with her and be like, I guess, compatible with her.
She is OK to cast in this movie not perfect.
You can almost cast like any older good looking actress that

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almost like AB or C actress for this movie.
You know just cause the movie doesn't take itself seriously.
You need to kind of a shitty actor to be like that character.
You don't need you like you don't want someone that's good
at acting to be the female lead in this movie.
You kind of need them to kind oflike over act.
And that's what Pamela Anderson could kind of do here.

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And like, she doesn't have to belike she'd be the femme fatale a
little bit, you know, just like has some mystery or aura around
there. But also it's just overly
dramatic, has a little bit of comedic chops.
But I think most of it belongs to Liam Neeson when it comes to
their relationship. I think more jokes hit with Liam
Neeson that it did with, honestly Pamela Anderson.

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And I think Lily Neeson, it's more impressive because he had
so many more lines, you know? But yeah.
What was the hit rate in this movie for you?
Like joke wise like what percentage would you give it?
Like when you say hit rate like as in like I literally laughed
out. Loud, but it was funny and
laughed I. Think 65% is fair?

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I was going to say like 70%, yeah.
Like the kid, the. People in my crowd, it was like
90, like for a couple people, like they love this shit.
They love the literal jokes thatare made.
Like with how literal the movie is.
That's what makes like Naked Gun, Naked Gun.
And it's the kind of juvenile like type of humor.
And it's like a lot of people today are looking for
sophistication. How are you going to change up

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the comedy? They embrace like the old school
nature of it, you know? I think that's why people are
freaking digging it, you know? Yeah, and like, like the Naked
Gun 1988 version, like I was rewatching that with our parents
the other day and like, there isa lot of like madness in that
movie. You know, a lot of like, wow,
this is 1988. You know, whether like the

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opening scene with Gaddafi, like, like a lot of like jokes
that are like, whoa moments. This one also had that.
And I I would say like they werepretty 5050, you know, like used
the R word and like leaning intothat.
That was like a whoa moment in my theater.
Like some people were like whoa,and then other people.
But that was the name of the song initially for the Black

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Eyed Peas. Yes, I know.
But like, some people wanted to laugh at it and then some people
were like, don't you dare freaking laugh at that.
You know, you could tell like itwhen people are on edge in that
moment. But then right after that, when
Liam Neeson, Leslie Frank Dragman Junior, goes to the
Bengal Lounge and he's talking with Cody Rose, the bartender.

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And Cody Rose is like, you know who I am?
You shot my brother. It's like, who was it?
And he starts narrowing it down.And then he goes, O50, like you
shot him behind in the back. And he goes, that could be 50
people. And then he goes, he was white.
And he goes, I know exactly who you are.
Like. Everyone died laughing at that.
Everyone, absolutely. That was probably the biggest

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laugh in my theater throughout the entire movie was that
moment. And I was like, wow, that was so
bold to do. And it worked.
And the 1988 version did the same thing.
So like, I get again, like the hit rate I think changes by that
person. But I think like the there are a
lot of big laughs, you know, andsome big chances here.
And I think for the most part itworked.

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Yeah, I would say like feel likeI I personally like kind of have
a pay tribute to the old Naked Gun is like when they talk about
in the in like they have the cold case files and they go the
guy goes to the cold case, cold,cold case files and he brings
out like a 24 pack of beer. It's like Pam manner saying like
taking a chair with her, like that type of thing reminds me of
old Naked Gun. But also this movie kind of took

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a couple risks where it's like, wow, this is like a kind of a
big like comedic swing. Like when you had the moment
with, you know, Pam Anderson andLiam Neeson, they go on that
like ask that vacation together and they.
Have. They have the snowman that they
build and they make, they have like the enchantments and magic

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that they get into and they resurrect the snowman.
Absolutely absurd just on that aspect.
But then to have like almost like a jealous snowman a part of
their vacation and turns into like a mini story of its own of
them, like being basically haunted down by the by the
serial killing snowman. Absolutely insane risk.
I think it was 5050 in my theater.

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So I like how like it played thehits of Naked Gun, but also it's
just like we're just trying to be funny as shit and we're not
gonna like do something you would traditionally see to be
funny. I liked it.
I thought that was hilarious, tobe honest.
I think it was kind of 5050. That snowman sequence, like no
one could have predicted that from all the trailers and all

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the promos and all the jokes that were leaked online or like
they they teased us online. It's like, oh, I saw this
already 1000 times in the promo.Like that was something they
kept hidden and they probably kept hidden for a reason.
But that reminded me of like, they came together where it's
like, this is hilarious. But then it's like, oh, this is
getting kind of crazy. This is a little much.

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Just go with it. Funny anymore, but then it keeps
going. And then it got hilarious.
Again, until it lands like, thisis weird, this is weird, this is
weirder, right? What are we doing here?
And then it lands it. You're like, OK, hilarious.
You know, literally. Because of that scene, I added
they came together on the streamer Rex this weekend.
Yeah, and that that without thatscene, the movie is like what,

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90 something minutes? It's an hour 25, so it's just
under 90. This hour 25 minute movie.
Yeah, it was perfect. Oh, wow.
So, so yeah, so we're talking like 85, get rid of that seat.
It's like a 75 minute movie. But like, you know, the pacing?
Yeah, the. Pacing I thought was really good
and yeah, I'm just. Joke, joke, joke, joke, joke,
joke. Yeah.
And I think versus like a happy Guilmore 2 that was 2 hours 5

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minutes, you could see like whatare we doing here?
Like this is like more like hey,in Arrow in 2025, social media
TikTok attention spans are lower.
People are going to the theater,do a 90 minute comedy joke after
joke. Not everything's going to hit,
but not every TikTok reel is going to hit.
You know, you, you get a couple of huge ones and that's what

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people will walk out of that theater.
Happy Happy Gilmore 2. If that was a movie theater
movie, you're like crap. Like they might be walking out
or at the end you're like, God, that last 45 minutes was
absolutely brutal. You know, this one you're going
to get good response to. That's why the Rotten Tomato
score and Fan Audience score is so high.
When Liam Neeson was talking to the the first henchman of Danny

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Houston's villain and he was on the bed and he was saying like
you're when you know what happens to people that go to San
Quentin hands a fella like yourself, you become a TikTok,
you become a you become a TikTokinfluencer.
And then you have a fandom that releases you from prison.
You get money, money and fame, but then there's a sexier person
that comes along just the way hesays it, where it's like the

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most like unorthodox way of likesomething happening, whether
it's like the opposite of saying, yeah, you're going to
get like raped in prison. He's like, you're going to
become an influence and your life's going to fall apart.
Then you can blow your brains out.
Tell me what happened. Tell me what your boss is
thinking. And then when they had that
whole thing, I was, I was losingit.
I freaking love that stuff. But it I, it also was very
Leslie Nielsen like that part ofthe performance.

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But then to have like the scene fall down and then it's a play
on like spoofs, like it's a playon Mission Impossible.
And it kept on like it was almost like a Russian nesting
doll of just never ending sets. I'm like, that's how you do
spoof movies right there. You know, I just that whole
sequence I thought was incredible.
One of my favorite parts of the movie.
Yeah. So my three favorite parts were
the body Cam that you mentioned before.

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The. Snowman, the snowman montage
that we just talked about. And then my favorite scene was
the fake hospital Mission Impossible Spoofmont scene.
And because I think it encapsulated exactly what this
is, right where it's like, hey, this is like again, Frank German
junior trying to solve a case, right?
But it is a comedy. Some hilarious parts.

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It's Liam Neeson interrogating this guy in an unorthodox way,
but it's hilarious. But it's like straight where
he's like, he's like playing himstraight, like he's not like
being a comedian, like trying tomake crack jokes.
He's he is literally acting. But it's just so funny in the
context of like, what the heck? And then it's the spoof element
afterwards. But it's not just one spoof.

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It's like, oh, it's on the Mission Impossible.
They catch him, right? But then the the internal
auditors or whatever, whatever it's called, internal affairs
gets him. He's like, you break, you broke
the law to do this. And he goes, don't worry, I've
done it a million times. And then it's like boom.
And then it's like, ah, darn. But then it's like they do it
again and get the internal affairs lady.
It's like, Oh my God, this is comedic gold.

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And that's why like, that was myfavorite because not only was it
hilarious and also good with theplot, but also it encapsulates
what this actually is. I want to rewatch this movie
again just to see all the jokes I missed.
You know, I want to go back and also one thing, I wanted to call
out Pamela Anderson, who has thegun pointing at Danny Houston in

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this. Also Danny Houston, I'm going to
give him credit. Like I've never seen him crack a
joke ever in a project. And he kind of has that Leslie
Liam Neeson type of feel where it's like this guy's such a
serious dramatic actor. To see him say ridiculous lines
and do ridiculous things makes it even more funny because it's
Danny Houston doing it. But when you have Pam Anderson
pointing the gun at him, Liam needs to try to talk her down in

(46:43):
the worst way possible. Just so bad at one-on-one
conversations and where he's like you would, you don't want
to do this right? You want to trade this in for
the best 3 second moment of yourlife, you know, type of thing.
It's for the most awesome feeling you could ever have.
You're gonna kill like a person.Just like but dude.
The Danny Houston element dude that like also like is what

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we're saying like serious actor,a guy again, bad guy in Wonder
Woman, bad guy in Yellowstone, but always the bad guy, but like
a serious bad guy. And here it's like he's the bad
guy, of course, but they do a spin on it where like he's
playing what he always does. But again, the context around
it, the Black Eyed Peas moment, the, what do you call it, the

(47:26):
the stomach punch moment, which I think a lot of people are
loving online, when he's like, oh, you hit me right in the soft
spot on my right in the belly, soft belly.
Like that was perfect. Because again, he's still
playing the same guy. He always plays, but it's like,
oh, it's a little spit on it where he's doing the same thing
but everything around him is different.
Yeah, no, it's, it's it, they did the same thing with the

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villain. You know, it's not even a, it's
not even a foil. I, I can't describe it.
It's like they're doing the samething as Liam Neeson.
And then I like literally the body Cam footage, but when he
pops that gun in front of the bathroom, that was an eruption.
A volcano of Mount Vesuvius wentoff in the theater and I didn't
recover, I swear to God, for foruntil 5 to 10 minutes.

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Like I was like tears streaming down my face.
I got to see that scene again. That was I tweeted after I said
this is the funniest thing I've seen in a theater in the last 10
years, No doubt. Like, I can't even think of
something that competes with that.
So in the beginning of the movie, they're like going
through like the police squad, the coffee bit, you know, like

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they always have a coffee. They're doing all these bits
around the station, right? And then they do like the
sequence where they're all like taking a knee in front of their
phone, like dads or whatever. And then like the Norberg scene
happened with OJ. I'm like, and that got no laughs
because we've seen it 1000 times, right?
And I was like, crap. Did they like blow their load
too early in the promo? That's what made me nervous in

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the beginning. And this body Cam footage scene
comes like 20 minutes later, right?
And I'm like, we already saw this, like I already know.
But you know when something's good, when you've seen it 1000
times and it happens on the big screen and then you're dying
laughing, right? Yes.
And it's like, holy crap, this is so funny.

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But I'll tell you what, I laughed even harder later in the
scene. But he goes after he uses the
bathroom, gets back in the car. I can barely talk right now.
And then and then he grabs another chili dog.
It's a rhymes like don't do it, don't do it.

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It's like the interrogation room, like fake mirror.
You bust the rhymes like don't do it.
They're all shaking their head like no, everybody eats.
So good. Yeah.
Everyone is saying no. Then he finally gets to like
Busta Rhymes. That's in the, you know, bank

(49:58):
Create. Bye.
I'll tell you everything. Everyone's like, damn, don't do
it, dog, don't do it. When he had the second chili
dog, I think my girlfriend punched me in the arm when he
pulled out a second chili dog. I had five that day.

(50:19):
Oh man fucking Liam Neeson, whata talent.
Also shout out Paul Walter Hauser when he was in in
undercover at the WWFC like fight and he's like dressed up
as a concession worker and he passes the beer to the person
and he says it's for free and then all of a sudden people
cover start coming because it's free and it's him giving Liam

(50:41):
Neeson like information. It keeps passing out the free
beers. Then at the end of the movie
when they instead of calm down, they calm up and reverses Danny
Houston's plan and he's chuggingbeers with like the kids
laughing. This is great.
This is old school right here. So funny.
It's not not a lot of screen time, but very, very funny.
Yeah, that that made-up for the lack of screen because like in

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the second act at the middle of the movie, Pamela Anderson kind
of takes his role as like, Frank's sidekick, and she's
getting all the screen time similar to that Priscilla
Presley did in the first one. When George Kennedy in the
second act kind of disappears because again, Leslie Nielsen's
Frank Gemman goes with PriscillaPresley and then does the
montage fall in love? Whatever.

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But that brings me to Priscilla Presley, who gets us on one
second screen time in this, during that scene when Frank is
like naked in the fight. And then they show Priscilla
Presley and I go, that's obviously his mom.
And I was like, damn, like, how funny would it have been if like

(51:44):
it was because she's 80, right? But she looks younger than her
age, of course, similar to Liam Neeson, but maybe not to the
extent of Priscilla Presley. What if they spun it and was
like oh Priscilla Presley was actually a stepmom and then he
married his like step mom after his dad passed?
Oh my God, that would have been a lot.
That would have been a lot. That would have been a lot also

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Great, great. Bit before we get to scores that
kept running the the police. So his boss, Liam Neeson's boss,
I forgot what the actresses namewas, the black woman with the
wig, her husband being asleep the entire time, him walking
through like the the crime scene, like with the sleeping
like patch on. I love that.

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That was a hilarious bit that kept going.
And then I also wanted to say good tribute to Naked Gun is
during the WWFC fight where LiamNeeson is like buying into the
crowd, like feeling and cheeringfor him and him like putting his
hand to his ear. It was kind of a tribute to
Leslie Nielsen in Naked Gun whenhe's the umpire and he's doing

(52:49):
this strike type of thing and he's like going crazy.
It was a nice small tribute, nottoo overt.
Yeah, that guy. I still think, I still think
this one had some of like parts where I died laughing.
Like I'm just rehashing the freaking body Cam footage.
I was dying laughing. But I still think the hit rate
on the first Naked Gun, the first time I saw that was really

(53:11):
high, like I think higher than this one.
I think this one still had the heights, you know, but I still
think like it didn't hit as wellas the first one, but it was
pretty damn close. Like for his Legacy sequel, like
I thought it was pretty damn good.
My favorite line, my favorite moment was the body Cam.
But when they are carrying the confidential files through

(53:34):
police squad and it says confidential in the middle
folder and then he tacks the thing to the board and it's like
police squad musical casting. And then it just quickly pans
away and you hear someone in theback goes.
She doesn't even have a good voice.
I was dying for 5 minutes and I missed like 3 jokes in between
the time I stopped laughing. That just killed me.

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Miss days like that scores. What do you give Naked Gun 85?
OK, 88 that does it for the review of Naked Gun.
Let's go talk about iconic Hollywood couples.
And this is an honor of Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson.
Their recent, you know, announcement, I guess, or you

(54:15):
could say they're, you know, they go they what?
Instagram official, Facebook official, you know, I think
yeah. And love is in the air.
Tom Cruise on at the Armas type of thing going on.
Let's go over the most iconic Hollywood couples and we'll do a
draft top billing style here. Ricky Flex, how did you do your
research for this? Like, did you think about like

(54:37):
couples that have lasted the test of time?
Do you think about the ones thathad the most notoriety?
How did you approach it? This is a tough one.
Like I mentioned off the top, this is our first ever gossip
corner of TDI. Just like so I kind of I, I
attacked this the same way as I usually do.
I grabbed the pen, grabbed a piece of paper, and I just

(54:58):
started writing down every celebrity couple or Hollywood
couple. So 2 actors.
I only included actors, 2 actorsand many as I could put down and
I did like 15 to 20 and I was like, damn, it's pretty good.
And then I said a quick Google search and I'm like, what am I
missing here? And I started going through
like, oh, like what? Like I just started typing an
actress who I know like are hot,you know, And I was like, oh,

(55:22):
all right, I missed that one. I missed that one.
I still don't have a good like rankings.
I I, I don't know how to rank them, but I think I had tears of
like, oh, like I think this is like a tier of like wow, that
was big B tier of like that was pretty big, C tier of like
decently big. I think I have a pretty good
tier system. I'm going for like the

(55:43):
splashiest ones, Like I'm going for like a little bit of
scandal. I'm going for, I'm going for
like, who do you see dominating the tabloids?
I'm not looking for people that necessarily have been together
for 50 years. You know, I'm looking for people
that it causes a stir. Maybe they get married a little

(56:04):
too early when they break up. It's a Love is dead tweet that
comes endlessly afterwards. I'm looking for those type of
like top draft picks, to be honest.
But I didn't have a lot, so I had to kind of mix it up.
I have like 10 on my list right now, honestly.
Let's do a coin flip, Ricky. OK, Flex, you have your corn.

(56:25):
Yeah, I just had it. Where did I lost whereas?
I have one right here if you want me to use it.
Yeah, sure. Go ahead.
You just go. All right, I'm going to what you
call it in the air. OK, Tails it is heads.
I'm going to go 1st and I'm going to take the one that I
think is the most obvious 11. When you think of iconic

(56:48):
Hollywood couples and I think about how I did my research, I
want the most scandalous. I want the one that dominated
the tabloids for not only days, weeks, months, but years.
Got to go with Brangelina, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie.
That is the number one most iconic Hollywood couple.
It they literally marketed a movie around this pairing and

(57:11):
the separation of Brad Pitt fromJennifer Aniston potential like
obviously teasing a pic there but breaking them up and the
onset, you know, love chemistry that develops between Brad Pitt,
Angela and Jolie obviously has anot so great ending for their
relationship. But I think this is got to be
1/1. This is going to be my 112 only

(57:33):
because there's literally a movie from it, like, you know,
and also you can't like mention it without Jennifer Aniston and
how literally the biggest movie star Brad Pitt and then biggest
TV star of the time were together, married.
And then this whole thing happened.
And then now you look at it's like we grab Brad Pitt, Angela
Jolie. They have a bunch of kids, they
adopt a bunch of kids and and then obviously things untangle

(57:58):
and look at Brad Pitt, Andrew's Lily now.
So it's definitely the 11 in ourdraft.
I don't know be one one in everyone's draft, but I would
have done it. Yeah, it's just I'm looking I'm
not looking for they actually were married for like a decade,
but like there's obviously some turmoil that went with their
marriage. When we think about like star
status, like two of these two people were a listers, you know,

(58:21):
like looks why Jennifer Aniston was a Lister, but she's not in
like movies like Brad Pitt was or Angelina Jolie.
These are two people that sold movie on sex appeal and their,
you know, relationship. So that's my 11.
You're up so. I don't think I don't want to
pick this, but I'm afraid that you're going to pick something
with this guy and this guy it's Ben Affleck.

(58:44):
It's like you could do so many with this guy, but I feel like I
have to take this one now because you did that one and I
can't let you have this one and what you just picked.
So for me, this is down my board, but I'll take, I'll take,
I'll take Benifer, I'll take BenAffleck.
Yeah, I'm taking that one. And that could be recency bias,

(59:08):
but the fact that this started after Jiggly and O2 and has come
up time to time again post a rot.
You have all the pictures, you have everything going on.
You have the boat pictures, Ben Affleck touching her ass and
this talk about dominating tabloids.
This is the most dominated Ben Affleck relationship tabloid

(59:29):
one. This is the one.
So I'm going to take Bennifer also has the name Bennifer.
I'm taking this one. Not the Affleck one I would go
with not the one, but like maybebecause like the other one is
just such a flashy name and to me is more like Hollywood
celebrity couple. Jennifer Garner is like such a

(59:51):
nice person, you know, just like.
That's why I'm not picking it though.
Well, Affleck is a little bit ofgrouch, you know, obviously so,
but it's like this is the most you settled down, I guess, with
somebody and they have a family together, but.
Yeah, Jennifer Gardner, she's not as like the sexy name in
terms of the relationship. The Bettifer is cool, but I'm

(01:00:12):
saying like Jennifer Garner is just such a nice person.
I'm like, she doesn't deserve any of this.
When I hear her in like the Capital One commercials, I'm
like, she's a sweet. She's a St., you know, she, I
just think she's a St., you know, compared to like a lot of
people that are going to make this list.
Yeah, so I guess that's why I didn't pick her and I decided to
pick Jlo, you know? Oh wait, you picked Jlo?

(01:00:32):
I thought you said better. Oh, whoops.
Sorry. Well, Jennifer Garner is.
Jennifer, that just shows the gossip.
You just so this is this is thisis controversy now this is
controversy. I thought you're taking Charles
for Garner the entire time. This.
Just shows how like I'm not in tune with this.
I thought the benefit was Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck.
It might be this is This is why we're not a gossip podcast.

(01:00:55):
We don't know this shit. I would have typed in Benefit
right now and see what pops up. I bet it's J.
Lo, no, you're right. You're right.
It is Jlo. That's me.
That's me. That's me.
Yeah, I I know much about the gossip.
It just shows our amateurism, like, why?
Why are we doing? This AI overview it, it
literally on Google it says Bennifer one point O 2002 to

(01:01:18):
2004 and then Bennifer 2 point O2021 to 2024.
That's my fault for misunderstanding it.
I think it's hilarious now, to be honest.
This is this is the obvious pick.
This is the right pick because this is you talk about like
dominating tabloids. It's these two.
Exactly, and I was talking aboutthe the grabbing her ass on the
boat. I was like all the different
like this was definitely like a paparazzi loved this one almost

(01:01:43):
as much as the Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie
love triangle. You know that was like this and
that are like right There were like every day there are
pictures on whatever tabloid youwant to say on this relationship
instead of whatever else is going on in the world.
So that's why I'm picking the Jlo.
Benford should be clear. And Ben Affleck.

(01:02:05):
It's hard when they're both named Jennifer.
Has anyone ever talked about that?
You know, like, it's like, I guess it's good for Affleck
because if he moved on from Jlo to Jennifer Garner, you didn't
have to Like, you know, you don't people like, say like your
ex's name by accident. You didn't have to worry about
that issue. Yeah.
OK. My next pick, I'm going to take

(01:02:27):
a risk and this is also recency bias as well, but I'm going, I'm
going like whoa moment. I'm thinking Will Smith and Jada
Pinkett. Oh oh.
Holy, holy headlines holy don't get my wife's name out your damn

(01:02:49):
mouth. Oh.
Unbelievable. And then you have obviously the
podcast, the open relationship. This is a relationship that's
just always circulating, always.And now every time you mention
Will Smith, you got to mention Jada and you got to mention the
slap. You got to mention the open
marriage that they're now they're careers and whoever they

(01:03:13):
are is now based off of this, these headlines and these like
affairs and whatnot. So that's why I'm bigot at the
side. Like Will Smith being controlled
by Jada a little bit, the weirdness of their family.
They this is you're you're taking my like strategy a little
bit where and they're they've lost the test of time.
But also you think, what kind oflike spell does Jada Pinkett

(01:03:36):
have over Will Smith? And how could he have not left
her at this point? The part where she cheated on
him and then she had the red table and that like had Will
Smith on. Then you have the red table, the
iconic meme of him crying. I'm like, dude, like you're
going through it. They have been making headlines
forever now, you know, and they've been together forever
now. Like this is a good pick in
terms of you talking headlines and that's why my next pick I

(01:04:02):
got to go with the current headliner and some people I
think they thought highly of them, but in recent years
they're they've taken APR hit. Ryan Reynolds play lively this.
Is the one I was debating picking.
This one, it's it, it's it, Thisone's now getting interesting.
It's it seemed like they were, oh, they're going to last the

(01:04:24):
test of time. You know, both of them have
dated high profile people. They found each other.
They're both highly successful. They have a relationship with
Taylor Swift, but things are slowly crumbling.
And you have the Baldoni thing going on, the lawsuit with
Lively, Ryan Reynolds becoming an MCU star.
He's got whatever's going on with Rex on, but he's like,
what's happening with Blake Lively impacting his career?

(01:04:46):
Is there going to be something that happens on the horizon?
You know, between these two, they they make headlines more
than any other couple now. So I feel like they got to be on
this list. Maybe a little bit of recency
bias, but honestly I don't thinkso because in the age of like no
lesser magazines being seen in terms of like social media
presence, this is huge. This was the one I was debating

(01:05:08):
between I this one warrants it because there's literally a
lawsuit basically because of Blake Lively and Baldoni, but
Ryan Reynolds is now getting in the mix of it and then him going
on SNL 50 or whatever saying like, is there anything like
like, why are people like when he made the joke, the very meta
joke of like, oh, is there anything going on in the world

(01:05:29):
like around me like that was very funny and it's because of
this relationship. They're always in the tab boys
at Taylor Swift element like there's there's so much here.
I would have picked it next I'm.Going to go with another modern
day one and this is tough now I'm going to go with one that I

(01:05:49):
think it went with people like we're taking a side and they
want to see like this person wassomeone else, but more like
people now. Just they are the IT
relationship right now and they're young and it seems like
people are like, oh, are they engaged?
Are they not engaged, you know, type of thing.
Two beloved actors and I feel like they're that their approval
rating compared to every other. Like look at the four couples we

(01:06:12):
chose like Brangelina, you know,Bennifer, Will and Jada rails of
Blake Lively. We have to break up these like
toxic relationships or these toxic, you know, fandoms that
they have. I'm going Tom Holland and
Zendaya. Tom Holland and Zendaya, I think
they've already cracked the iconic relationship.

(01:06:33):
The stars of Spider Man that seem to have made it past, like
the other stars of Spider Man that dated each other, you know,
like the classic Spider Man loveinterest end up dating Garfield
and Quinn and I'm still fall apart to McGuire.
Chris and Dunce don't really make it.
And then you have these two and now they're starring in movies
together. They're both in the Odyssey.

(01:06:54):
They're both in the next Spider Man movie again, their 4th
movie. They are they seem like
ironclad. They are the king and they're
like the Prince and Princess of Hollywood right now.
That will soon be king and queen.
Honestly, especially Tom Hollandnow circling James Bond.
I'm, I'm almost, I'm almost taking a future on these two,
these two lovebirds. This is a good one.

(01:07:15):
This is like, oh, we're getting nice, you know, like, oh, this
is what it ideally it would be. The two big stars.
You know, they're finally, they're, they're together, they
think they're engaged. They're very nice people.
They're constantly working, like, yeah, no, this is night
once literally Peter Parker, youknow, like it's like, oh, how
nice is this? Holland survived Chalamet and

(01:07:38):
Zendaya in Dune Part 2. You know he survived it.
You know that that, that it was Hollywood relationships.
That's an ender. You know, that's an ender right
there. But he survived it.
Yeah, Yeah. No, that's impressive.
OK, I'm going to get crazy. Actually, no, I'll save that one

(01:08:01):
just like you just did. You picked the kind of like a
not not bland, but like, oh, that's nice.
I'll pick an old school one thatwas like back in the day.
This was like, holy crap. And we were too young to kind of
like acknowledge of what was going on.
But people forget how crazy the ending of Tom Cruise, Nicole

(01:08:21):
Kidman, like how that ended. You went, you went toxic, you
went like unhealthy relationship.
The fact that Scientology was potentially an ender here.
Like it's. Insane we don't talk about that
enough and eyes wide shut like element here, like there is some
craziness at the end of this relationship and toxicity where

(01:08:43):
it's like, wow, literally like cruise, literally, I think, and
right after it happened like an O2, the only thing, the only
thing he said on it was like, she knows why I know why it's
over. Like that's it.
It's insane. And then like you have the two
adopted kids, you have all this like, holy crap, like this
divorce took a lot of time to freaking heal, you know?

(01:09:05):
And Scientology being like a part of this is insane.
So I think 2 of the biggest stars in the 90s and they were
together, they're in literally avery sexual driven movie
together. Kubrick at the end of the 90s
that itself had turmoil. And then Scientology on top of
that with kids and whatnot. I think it's pretty nuts.

(01:09:26):
So I'll take that one. Their eyes wide shut did the
opposite of what Mr. and Misses Smith did for Angelina Jolie and
Brad Pitt. Like that was like a a sexual
tension and like the like it aroused them.
You know that movie. This one did the opposite.
You have Tom Cruise and Nicole Kim and literally end their
relationship after they do a movie together.

(01:09:47):
It's literally the exact opposite.
So it was a good pick, but yeah,you still go negative.
You're still like, I'm in for the tabloids, I'm in for the big
stars. But I want to see a crash and
burn type of thing that I'm that's the vibe I'm getting from
you. So let's see your 4th pick.
There's another crash and burn one that might be that might
take the cake that Will Smith Jade is pretty big, but I feel

(01:10:10):
like you're not going to get take the take it.
Do I take it now I'm debating? You know what?
I'll take off. I think you're not going to take
the bad, the bad one I'm thinking of.
So I'll take a risk and take a couple that I think is another.

(01:10:31):
Like this is like what Tom Holland and Zendaya will be in
like 10 years. Krasinski.
I'm Lee Blonde. That's good.
That's a classic. Hey, these are just two good
people. Everyone loves them.
They even did a show during COVID that was popular together.
Like this is like exactly what you want in a Hollywood couple.
Then they did a franchise together, kind of.

(01:10:52):
No, this. And yeah, like everything has
worked out for them. I'll take a nice one, but I'm
coming back around for the throat in the final round.
Mr. Irrelevant. Dude, I keep thinking that what
that means, like I I could pick something that's like bad like
it like one that recent history of debating on picking with my

(01:11:14):
last pick because of what came with it.
I'm thinking about it. I'm going to hold off for now.
I have to go with one of you know, I I was talking about the
ones that made the most headlines.
You know, that was most entertaining, But I do have to
go with a classic. I have to go with Goldie Hawn
and Kurt Russell. They have been around forever,

(01:11:36):
never got married. It's like the best example what
you should do in a Hollywood relationship, right?
If you don't tie the knot, it's almost good luck type of thing
to Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell,just because I need some old
time nostalgia there. You know what, in terms of
headlines, in terms of like you want controversy, iconic

(01:11:57):
Hollywood couples, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, Johnny Depp and
Amber Heard, let's go there. Let's go.
The entertainment factor that came with it.
You know, one of the most seen trials on, you know, streamed on
YouTube, streamed on cable, You know, people tuned in the

(01:12:17):
basically the resurrection of Johnny Depp afterwards.
Get people defecating in people's beds.
I'm going with Johnny and Amber.This took over the Internet,
Yeah, good chunk. And then you have not only that,
you have the trial and you have Johnny Depp potentially with his
lawyer during it. Like it there's there's crazy

(01:12:38):
elements to this. I love it.
The deprecating the videos of Johnny Depp that that were like
put into evidence that were leaked on the Internet of him
videoing Amber, her going absolutely ape shit at their
apartment and house. Like insane, insane.
Amber Heard is like kind of a forgotten person, you know?

(01:13:02):
And she, it's like, yeah, she was a Hollywood actress.
Yes, she was an Aquaman. You know, the love interest in
Aqua. This is what she's known for.
This is it like Johnny Depp, like you always have Jack
Sparrow, you always have fear loving inmate, you always have
his career. Amber Heard like crap.
This was a Hollywood couple because they both were
technically big, they both were actors, but it's like you only

(01:13:23):
think of Amber Heard as crazy woman that dated Johnny Depp.
Yes, and it was the person that shat in his bed and it's the
person, you know, both of them kind of had their careers
destruct as their revolution, astheir relationship, you know,
devolved. You know, it was like it's a
it's a tragic story. And when now we're looking for
Johnny Depp to make the comebackthat Amber Heard will never
make. Amber Heard will never make it.

(01:13:46):
But that this was talk about headlines, talk about dominating
like month after month, like trials that like people needed
to hear the details after the rumors that were swirling.
I feel like just had to make an appearance on the board after
the opposite. I went from Goldie Hawn and Kurt
Russell, which is like a golden relationship in Hollywood versus
Johnny and Amber Heard. This is a ridiculous draft, but

(01:14:10):
you're. Looking full toxic.
I kind of regret the Krasinski blunt pick because I kind of
wish I picked the Johnny Depp Amber Heard one.
The only reason I didn't is because I didn't think Amber
Heard was big enough, you know? The what Amber Heard I.
Didn't think she was a big enough star.
And I was like, this isn't iconic, you know, it's an iconic
story. It's iconic.

(01:14:32):
Or like it's the topics, the headlines is up there with the
best of the best. But it's like, is the
relationship, both of them big enough stars, like as in mainly
manly Amber Heard to kind of anchor that?
But the way this draft has gone,totally warranted, only we
should have been won one, to be honest, we're really talking
about this draft. Most like Chronic, like most
headlines, I think people are going to get the grasp of the

(01:14:54):
draft when they see the list. They're just like, oh, it's like
these are like, you know, headline makers, you know, type
of thing. And now I think the one I said
you weren't going to pick is still on the board.
I'm going to pick it. This was very short lived.
This was a year but you know it was post COVID and people

(01:15:14):
already forget it. But when I bring it up, you're.
Going to be like holy crap, thatdid take over my life for a bit
and that's Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles.
Oh good one dude, 2021. Jason Sudeikis Olivia Wilde have
a great relationship. Jason Sudeikis is killing it.
Olivia Wilde's up and coming notactress but director, you know

(01:15:35):
director after book smart 2019. It's like wow should do we don't
worry darling Florence spew Harry Styles is on the come up
as an actor. It's like, wow, this is a huge
cast Chris Pine what not And then you hear like, Oh my God,
like Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles might be dating and Jason
Sudeikis like cheating on Jason Sudeikis.
And then you hear like the craziness about on set on Don't

(01:15:56):
worry darling. And then you hear about and then
you see the spit at Venice, the spit, the spit that went around
the world. It is insane.
And then obviously Jason Sudeikis Ted Lasso winner for he
gets an Emmy and I think Golden Globe and people are like
rooting for Jason Sudeikis afterthis and Olivia Wilde Harry

(01:16:18):
Styles acting career like oh, you want to be in eternals like
insane. So the the the fact that the
spit on set production issues Jason Sudeikis factor craziness
Mr. Irrelevant I'm I'll take Olivia Wilde Harry Styles.
Pretty good, pretty good. I think that we went full like
toxic. Really.

(01:16:38):
You went nearly full toxic relationship.
I kind of want to replace replace the name of this draft
like most toxic Hollywood couples I feel like.
You had to replace like I would have to replace Krasinski Blunt.
You would have to replace a couple like what would be next
on your list. Toxic.
Can I do like JFK? Marilyn Monroe?

(01:16:59):
Can I do that? Is that?
Is that count? No.
I think you got to do both. Actors like Harry Styles is a
reach for me. I would like Pam Anderson and
Tommy Lee, but like Pam Anderson, not really an actor at
that time, not Hollywood really.I would think it would be the
hard part. Yeah, he's the rock star.
Trying to think of other toxic ones.

(01:17:21):
I don't know. I would have to do further
research. I don't I I literally am out.
I only have like wholesome ones on my list like other people.
I was, I was going to say penélope Cruz and Javier Bardem.
You know, that's like one of thedevil stand the test of time.
That's a weird one too, though. I'll I'll say because like
that's another one. It's like, wow.
Like they both love each other and it's wholesome.

(01:17:41):
But like if you look at the beginnings of that relationship,
there is like weird shit. Because they first met on set of
a movie when Penélope Cruz was 16.
People were. Like whoa, whoa, whoa, and have
you heard them and others say like, oh, why didn't like we
didn't like we weren't romantically involved then and
then like shortly they're. Asking it was like an Elvis
Priscilla thing. Exactly.
So that's what people, some people used to say.

(01:18:02):
But like, then again, like you look at them and they're like,
wow, they both love each other and they talk glowingly of each
other and like you see them likewow, those are two people that
love each other. So like I, I just brought that
up just to say like, hey, this like this is great.
But like, how did it start? I was not getting backlash for
that pic. Jake G and Taylor Swift, not
enough juice. Other people.

(01:18:23):
I had Eva Mendez and Ryan Gosling, but you could say
that's bad because like Eva Mendez literally gave up acting.
That's what I was going to say because Eva Mendez I, I was
literally like, again, that was when I wrote that Gosling.
And I was like Eva Mendez. I was like, crap, wait, this is
like someone that doesn't act anymore.
And also there's no controversy.They just had a great life
together afterwards and she's like no longer acting.

(01:18:47):
He's not really Hollywood anymore.
It's just like Ryan Gosling's dating a normal person even
though Evan Mendez not normal. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson is
like an is like an iconic one, but I don't even know what Rita
Wilson's done. I think they're kind of just a
boring couple, to be honest. If it was like Game of Thrones
was still going, like Kit Harrington and the girl who
plays Egret, I think that was based on how weird it was that

(01:19:10):
they had this weird sexual energy in the show and then they
were married in real life, like falling in love on set story
type of thing. I also was going to pick.
I don't know if you're going to accept this.
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, Theylike best relation.
Yeah, I was. I'm not insinuating anything.
I'm just saying like that when you when you think of like
couples in Hollywood, you think of Affleck and Damon by.

(01:19:31):
The way did you see Matt Damon go on Who Wants to Be a
Millionaire with Jimmy Kimmel? No, this week he won 1,000,000
bucks. Matt Damon did.
Yeah, he won it and Jimmy kept it was funny because like the
one of the. They took it easy on him.
I don't know probably, but one of the things is like one of the
what's it called? When you like, you can call
phone a friend. One of the helpers, you know,

(01:19:54):
one of them is you can ask the host to answer the like give you
like instead of phone a friend. It's like ask the host.
So like, Matt Damon didn't know the answer on the $500,000
question and Jimmy Kimmel was like giving him shit.
And he's like, you better not miss this.
Whatever. And then he's like, I still have
my Ask the host, what is it? It's like, I'll use it.
And then Jimmy Kimmel's like, oh, it's this.
And then and Matt Damon's like, are you serious?

(01:20:14):
He goes, yeah, he like. And then he got it.
And then Matt? Damon got the mind.
Our question. Flag on the play.
Well, but like it's like Jimmy Kimmel doesn't know the answers
before or the questions, but like he knew the answer.
OK, but it's like for charity, right?
Yeah, yeah. So it's a cool moment.
OK, I'm trying to think of any other toxic ones.

(01:20:34):
Anything else left on your board?
I'll just go through a list here.
We are younger, so Pattinson, Kristen Stewart, Twilight era.
Can't forget. Speaking of Game of Thrones, Joe
Jonas and Sophie Turner. How toxic?
That ended. I would not have picked that
one. Me neither, but I'm just saying
Honorable mentions this one Likedidn't go to the tabloids, was

(01:20:57):
kept under the wraps until like mid 2000s.
But Chris Evans and Jessica Biel, holy hot, holy hot early
to mid 2000s, that relationship.Jesus.
Ashton Kutcher Miokonis we did not touch on.
Oh, that might have been a good one in terms of like their
stocks going down fast. Remember the whole shower thing?

(01:21:18):
That's what I mean and. Then Kutcher is like, what was
this guy associated with before?I don't know that that would
have been an interesting one. OK, real quick.
Debbie Moore, Bruce Willis, Again, for our time, but that
was a big one. I was going to say Sonny and
Cher. Yeah, I got you, babe.
So I feel Burt Reynolds. That was another big one that

(01:21:40):
back then. Diane Keaton, Warren Beatty,
Farrah Fawcett, Lee Majors again.
Holy hop back in the day. Yeah, one that I wanted to call
out and Bancroft and Bell Brooksand Branco.
Like the graduate seducing Dustin Hoffman and Mel Brooks?
Like insane huge fan Sarah Jessica Parker.

(01:22:04):
Not the math through project Marriage, but RDJ in the 80s.
That must have been nuts. I saw that on a list.
Sounds like I almost didn't believe it.
That's like mid 80s right? Yeah, that's insane.
And then my last wholesome one. Or my, Yeah, my last one.
And also wholesome. Freddie Prinze Junior and Sarah
Michelle Gellar. That's like, oh, I know what you

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did last summer. The recently the sequel just
came out like it's a sequel. And I was like, oh, that's one.
I was like, that is nice, you know, that's a good one.
Leo and Giselle. Giselle.
Like that to me is just funny because like, Giselle marries
Tom Brady afterwards. Yeah, that sounds.
Like Leo the year before or whatever.
It was like the most stable relationship Leo's ever had.

(01:22:47):
You know it's Giselle and you know, what if he got back
together with Giselle, you know?She's like pregnant now with the
karate instructor or whatever. That was tough, that tough break
for him. Yeah.
I'm trying to think of any otherpopular names I'm just going
through like movie stars in my brain right now, like the young
ones. You don't really see it.

(01:23:09):
Miss Call and Gracie Abrams, is that right?
Yeah, but Gracie Abrams again. Singer.
Yeah, Zac Efron. Zac Efron, Vanessa Hudgens.
That would have been a good one that I would I would drafted
that one that would be. Juicy Yeah, I I think our lists
are good and we could have gone full toxic, but we didn't.

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Yeah, it was OK. It was a good mix that does it
for the draft of most iconic Hollywood couples.
I would also probably just say modern day aside from the Goldie
Hawn and Kurt Russell pick but had to had to get it.
One of the best looking older couples that have lasted decade
after decade. That does it for also 479 of
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Anything else Ricky? Weapons next week.
Buckle up. Double feature review most
likely. We're talking definitely
weapons, potentially together. Double feature to the scariest
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