Sai Pedireddi & Sai Kalyan: Yoga, Breathing, Cinematography, and Investing | #37 - The Drive Program

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Hello.
Welcome back to another episodeof the drive program.
My name is Tom driver and todayboth of my guests are named PSI.
The side that I was alreadyfriends with, came on the show
with his friend, Stan, and wemostly talked about lifting.
But specifically when psychcomes on the show, he really
likes to talk aboutcryptocurrency.
So I talked aboutcryptocurrency, some with my

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friends PSI.
And then.
My other guests, I is actuallysize uncle.
So we referred to him asKellyanne for most of the
episode, just to.
Avoid confusion between the two.
But He is a yoga instructor.
He conducts the happiness, yoga,and meditation workshops, where
he teaches people to overcomestress through powerful

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breathing techniques.
Thus helping them lead a joyful,peaceful, and productive life.
So we talk about meditation andyoga for a big chunk of this
episode.
Kellyanne also has a passion forcinematography and photography.
So he likes to direct movies.
He was able to purchase a moviecamera of the highest quality.

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So he's got to work with a lotof cool people because of his
camera.
He rented out sometimes, orsometimes he makes his own
films.
So we do a deep dive into thatas well.
Kellyanne.
is also a software engineer andhe practices martial arts, but
We didn't even have the time totalk about those two passions.
So hopefully I can have him backon the show someday.

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And we'll do a deeper dive intothose topics.
And then as I mentioned, myfriend's side and I talk about
cryptocurrency a little bit inthe beginning and the end of
this episode as well.
All right.
So I had a great time talking tothese guys.
I learned so much about yoga.
This was the first time I've hada yoga instructor.
On the podcast.
So that's something I'm going tostart trying to implement in my

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life.
And then we even got to talkabout our, we got to practice a
breathing technique in themiddle of the episode.
So I hope you guys join alongwith that.
And learn something aboutmindfulness.
All right.
Enjoy the episode.

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This is episode 37 of the dryprogram.
With guests, PSI and PSI.

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Okay.
So you're both named Cy.
I feel like we should just getthat out into the open first.
Right?
How did you guys meet?
How do you guys know each other?
This is my uncle pretty much,right?
This is my grandma's littlesister's son, Michael.
But he's only a few years olderthan me.

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And like, yeah, mygreat-grandparents were busy,
you know, for a long time.
like I think the youngest onewas like, you know, 20 years
away from birth, I named CYA.
You know, I used to love thisdude.

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You know what I mean?
It's so small, you know, you'reso cute.
And then I used to carry him.
we bet in south India.
Right.
You know, I was there initially,so I used to love this.
There was so much, and you know,I used to name him, like I said,
like a side, side, side, side,That's cute.

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I did not know that.
You're basically his uncle.
That's crazy.
should I call you guys differentnames?
Like, should I call you uncle Cyand him, you know, nephew side
or side though?
Oh, you're younger.
Yeah, you can, you know, so likemy full name is His name is so I

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call him.
Yeah, you can call me call yet.
Okay.
Can I just call my sigh and youcall you on for now?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because if I call him, call me.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Callie and where, where are youright now?
Like where do you live?

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I live in Atlanta, Georgia rightnow, right now.
Right, right now.
I'm in Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Dubai.
Would that be okay?
What are you doing in Dubai?
So I'm at my wife's parents'place.
So I came for a visit.

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Okay.
It's short span of time.
So one of the things that, youknow, I also thought, you know,
I would attend the expo because,you know, if you have heard
about Dubai exports, one ofthem.
Architectural Marvel.
It's so beautiful.
So it's about innovation.
It's about creativity andsustainability.
So it was so beautiful.

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So one of the reasons I came toalso visit the expo, which was
happening, you know, which justended March 31st was the last
day of the accident.
It was for six months and thenit just ended.
So I just, came here to visitthat and also to stay here.
And expedience Dubai and AbuDhabi as well.
Wait, what, what is the expo?

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I don't really understand that.
Oh, yeah, that's a goodquestion.
Even when I heard about it aslike, what is expo and then
exploit something where alldifferent countries came, like
they said, like, you know, wewill showcase our technology,
our, you know, we could showcaseour.
All the different countries,they come together and then they
show in this expo.

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That's why I said, right.
You know, sustainability, howthis sustained energy, how is it
sustained, you know, climatehow's the climate control and,
you know, they show all thedifferent innovations, but also
also the development But also,they also talk about the future,
you know, how it's going to bein the next coming few years.

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How they gonna, that soundsnegative for that as well.
We don't have anything like thatin America.
We just had two dudes slap eachother in the Oscars.
You know, there's no innovationbox and shit like that.
It's like, you know, this girlfell off of a train and it's
hilarious.
Or, you know, the Chris rock gotslapped.

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And you know what, the, in theexpo we had so many celebrate
these that have come from usfrom all of the word all the,
every day from the past sixmonths, every day they had
concerts, they had, you know,all the, you know I don't know I
don't know the names, but not ontop of my mind, but, you know,

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All typically most of thecelebrities, like, you know
celebrated shows happen.
And then they're also music Alsohappened, music festival also
happened over there.
So all the celebrities used tocome.
They used to perform each andevery day.
I think on the last day I think,and came in and many other
people say, you can just see onthe online yet.

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Isn't it.
Isn't Dubai where they make liketheir own islands.
Like they have these islandsthat go up the coastline.
Is that Dubai or my incorrect.
No, they, they made it likeDubai is basically, you know,
it's, it's an island itself.
But also it has mostly sand andstuff.
The transform the sad place ofsand into a beautiful city where

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you come there, you don't feellike you're in, in inside is in
sand.
Right?
You feel like, you feel likeyou're somewhere in paradise.
It's so beautiful.
Many tourists come in.
So what they did is theyinvested more on infrastructure
and how to make each building isunique.

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Not like in us ready, new USBhouse that we're in, everybody
builds the same kind of abuilding or a house right here.
Every house is unique.
Every tower is unique.
Do they have like, though?
Oh yeah, they do.
I bet it's on a different level,right?

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I'm sure it's fire that havelike a Salton burger and stuff.
I'm sure.
It's great.
Mix soulmate, right?
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
All right.
Yo OSI, let's check in with youfor a little bit.
Before I start ripping a bunchof questions at So how has your
fitness life been and how hasthe crypto life been?

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Because the last time we talked,the market was really up
actually.
And since then, I know thecrypto market has gone down a
lot.
So I'm curious, I'm curious tocheck in with you on how
everything was.
I think we really haven't foundanywhere.
And like, like I had mentionedthat I told you, like, after the

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holidays, it gets really bloody,like January, February, not
good.
Right.
And then March, you see thingslike kind of swing your up
upwards a little bit.
Like, and then, you know, Aprilmay is good time.
So that's just the cycles.
That's how it is.
And stock markets, you know,it's just how.

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How it all happens because oftaxes and institutions taken
advantage of tax times anddumping their stocks or
splitting stocks, you know,showing losses, whatever that
needs to happen.
Right.
Wait, so this is a yearly cyclethat happens every year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or it could happen.
It could happen in three years,four years.

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It's just like full cycles.
There's like.
So, did you sell, did you sell abunch of stuff before?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
We were talking about, I waslike, Hey, like you have to take
profits.
Nobody makes money by justbuying something.
Right?
Yeah.
You can buy something andthere's interest.
You can earn by folding a Solanosnake or whatever, but the real

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money comes from when you sellshit.
Nobody makes money by justbuying fancy Rolexes, right?
Like, yeah, you have it.
You could show it to the bank.
You can take a loan on it.
Right.
That's a dope asset, but you'regoing to sell it at some point.
Right?
That's that's the whole reasonwhy you do this.
People get really married to theprojects and they're like, they

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see it as something.
Different than what it is in thestock market.
It's not the actual asset you'rebuying and selling a contract.
Right.
You're using this company as aposition.
Like you see oil go up and downlike crazy.
Right.
But oil prices outside areconstantly rising.

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It's not like you're not tradingthe PR the reality of oil.
You're trading the speculationof oil, right.
You're trading the speculationof crypto.
So you have to sell at somepoints.
I still own a bunch.
And then I bought in a lot atlike 36 we're at 46.
Now, like it's, if you look atthe yearly chart for like any

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sort of asset, it's just asideways market, bro.
I think we're doing well.
I mean 46, 5 is not bad.
I think last time we talked.
54 or something.
And we, we know we dumped downto like 30 to 32 K per Bitcoin,
you know, that's like crazy.
that was scary.
But yeah, just two years ago,bro, we were at 3,009,000.

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So like if you're in crypto froma long time ago, this is like
just the natural thing, youknow, cycles moving up, take
profits, buybacks.
But for newcomers, you know, youreally have to manage your risk
wisely, right?
And you need to sell, you needto buy, you need to manage this

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shit, especially if you'rebuying tops and like the economy
is trash.
So inflation is going to gocrazy.
Everything's going to be moreexpensive and people are going
to have less money.
So you gotta be careful.
That's true.
let's check in with crypto thenagain at the end to make sure we
have time for our new guests.
Right.
But since you know him, can youhelp me kind of ask him

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interview questions as well?
Right.
Okay.
Cool.
So I wanted to talk about yogafirst.
Cause I've never had anyone onthe podcast is interested in
yoga, so I understand that likeyoga is not just stretching,
right?
People say it's a way of life.
So in your own words, like whatis, what, what even is yoga?
Yeah, that's a good question.

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That's how I came into yoga, youknow, and I was, I was like a
fat kid and really like, oh man,yoga means you need, you really
become like really hot, youknow, hot looking guy.
Right.
You know, that's, that's themind that we see on TV or
internet and that's how it hasbeen sold most of the time.

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It's like, oh, you need tostretch.
And some people as a beginner,when I, when I started like, oh,
yoga means I need to like reallystretch, but I'm not that
flexible.
So that also scared me out whenI bring them.
And I heard about yoga, so Inever looked into it.
Then one of the teachers said,okay, he came to our, you know,
I was in, in Mandarin.

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Then he came and spoke aboutyoga, meditation, breathing
technique.
I was like, wow, this isamazing.
What he told was somethingchanged my mind.
He said, if you want somethingin your life and you, you don't
have willpower, you will neverachieve it.
But if you want something inyour life and then if you want

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to go all out for it, have theinner strength.
And how do you get that innerstrength through yoga?
You can get the inner strength.
I was just hooked up with thatone word with that term where
inner strength.
I never heard about it, but inIsaac inner strength, oh, you
want to do so many things inyour life, but yet you need to

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have that inner strengthsomewhere.
Right.
And the moment I heard about itas like, okay, I want to go.
It doesn't matter what it is,but I just want to go and see
what this teacher is going totalk about.
Right.
Then I realized yoga is not juststretching, not just moment.
It's about uniting the bodybreath and the mind together,

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whatever you do, you're aware ofit.
That becomes yoga.
You don't even have to stretchright now, you're listening.
But if you're totally listeningto me, that becomes you.
And if you are breathing, canyou take your attention to your
breathing right now?
I am.
You see the moment you go intothe breathing, there is the

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sense of awareness that comes inthat becomes your better.
So that's hooked me up.
They go, wow, this is so cool.
This is something I really wantto learn rather than, you know,
learning it later.
You know, I took a stretching isa, is a part of.
But not the straight thing isyoga, but that's how I came into
yoga.

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I thought it was like crap,right?
Like, you know, you just see,it's not, you know, you just see
like older women doing itbecause they want to stay in
shape.
Like how we're shown yoga in theUnited States is not how you see
yoga in India at all.
These are like yogis.

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Old saints, living underwaterfalls, eating mushrooms all
day and shit like doing chantsand like doing.
Breathing meditations, likeKundalini yoga and stuff like
that.
Literally like locks your bodyup.
You're frozen in time.
You're like vibrating.
You're looking down at yourself.
You're having like psychedelicvision tools as well.

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It's very deep.
And like, you kind of get, ittakes like lots of time to do,
right?
Like, it's not like, oh, youjust do it for 10 minutes.
Now it takes like an hour to doand you might have to do it over
and over.
And you might, it might take youa year to like, get a
breakthrough.
Right.
Like, and breakthroughs aredifferent for different people.
So it's like, you know, I didn'tget to experience it too much.

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Cause I'm, I'm late.
And like, there's lots ofshortcuts to get that meditative
states, you know?
But.
He teaches this shit and he'sgreat at it.
And like, I'll do it whenever heforces me to.
And it's fantastic.
Like, you can get really, reallydeep into it.
I wanted to see if you can talkabout when you started coming to

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America and really following theOSH from around and like doing
some of the.
the social benefits stuff andlike you're really out there
teaching yoga to people.
And, you know, if you want totalk about the deeper levels,
you know, that'd be awesome.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
Yes, I you know, one thing Irealized when I came to us.

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So be Frank in us, everybody iseverybody thinks they're great.
Yes, they are great.
Right.
Everybody's there in their ownshell, I will say.
And then another thing that Irealized is people are so, you
know, compassionate, I've seenthis personally because one is
going through their own.
They are into their own mindmost of the time.

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Right.
Otherwise, you know, people areso nice, friendly, and only if
they're, if they're, around andthen if they're able to take
care of their own things, thenthey used to be more friendly
towards other people.
This is what I observed when Icame to us first, because in
India, it's a different culture.
It's like in India.

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You know, you don't have to tellsomeone to schedule an
appointment to meet you, yourfriend or your family.
Also, if they just come like,you know, they just come in and
show up and you're like, oh myGod, I have so many things to
do.
It doesn't matter.
Like they are there.
Right.
And when I came here, you know,my friends still like taking
appointments later.
Oh, you know what?

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I'll come at this time on thisday.
What?
It doesn't matter.
I'm your friend.
You can come at any time.
Right.
And then people.
Into their own own stuff.
And I was like, oh my God, whatis happening?
You know, it was getting soalone when it, when I came to, I
saw just to say, so I came to usin 2008 to do my master's in

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computer science.
So I didn't informationtechnology in India.
and allow now technology.
So one thing that really.
Books mean to you know, my ownstuff is going through
technology.
Right.
You know, always something newand something new comes up.
So that's how I used to like,you know, I allowed information
technology, so I thought I woulddo more.

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And then I came to, you know, toa place called Arkansas little
rock and, you know, and I cameto Arkansas.
People were like, where is thisplace?
so I came from a master's inuniversity of Arkansas at little
rock.
I came in.
I could see more trees thanpeople like in Arkansas, like in
very isolated place and knowthere are people everybody's in

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their on life.
And then I used to be go magic.
What I, if I don't see peopleand then if I don't meet people,
it's, it's going to be tough forme.
And, and glad because I alsostarted learning yoga at that
point of time.
Six.
I started learning yoga.
And then when I came to us 2008,the yoga and meditation helped

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me to come out of any depressionthat is hitting me or stress
that is hitting me because yeah,education is great.
You know, people are great aswell, but the lifestyle was
different over here.
You know, everybody's doingtheir own thing.
And then only on the weekends weuse.
That's the culture.
Right.
You know, because you're, you'rebusy in your own thing and you

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can make, then I realized, no,no, no, this is not the way.
Then I started, you know, alsogoing out and talking about yoga
to people and then people tookit very nice because they were
going through stress.
And how do I define stress ishaving some energy and then
having work.

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If the work is higher than yourentering.
That's when we feel stressed,right.
And only way to reduce work.
You can you reduce work each andevery day?
Is it possible?
No.
Right.
No, no.
It keeps growing every day.
Something else, the other keepspiling, but the only other way I

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could see is how do you increasethe energy, right.
That way to match my work.
But also I can take, I can takecare of things that I love.
I'm passionate.
And yoga really helped me atthis point.
I said, you know, come what mayI'll I'll practice or whatever.
I learned, you know, yoga do youneed to practice yoga then in

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the morning to give yourselfmore energy or if you practice
yoga at night, does that kind ofgive you energy for the next
day?
Does that transfer over or is itmore of a morning ritual than.
That's a good question.
Tom I would say you can do it atany time.
Yoga doesn't have to be morningor evening or at night.
It depends.
So yoga has different aspects toit.

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So, so for example there's.
Hatha yoga, which is, you know,you do different postures,
right?
And then yoga leads tomeditations.
It's good if you do it in themorning because you know, when
do you need more energy, right?
It's in the morning, mostly whenyou go to work or you wake up in
the morning are you want to dosomething creative?

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That's when you need mostenergy, right.
And you want to take gooddecisions.
So if you want to do that in agenerally it's good in the
morning.
Okay to be Frank.
I was not a morning person, so Iwake up late.
I don't know if you guys canrelate to it.
Okay.
Let me wake up late.
And then, and, and your mindworks at night.
Some people's mind works atnight and it's like, you're

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like, oh wow.
You go all out at night and thensuddenly in the morning, then
you're like, right.
So it all depends on you can,you can alter your times as.
In this current times, right?
Otherwise there are people whoare really strict.
You need to do yoga at thistime.
because you know, you, you willget so much energy in the
morning.
It's my lifestyle.

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It's not like that.
Right.
If you push too much, it willnot work.
And then you'll put yoga becauseyou know, it's not fitting your
schedule.
Right.
So I would say anytime.
Okay.
But only there's, there are afew, few things that, that
having mind during yoga is youdon't do yoga in a in a full
stomach.
Right.
You don't eat and do yogabecause either you, the people

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around you feel discomfortbecause either you're farting or
you're snoring, or you're doingsomething, right.
So it's better to do yoga beforeyou eat.
'cause you do kind of lose yourcontrol a little bit, right?
You lose control of your body, alittle, no central, or the body
size side, but also it'simportant that your digestion,

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right.
You know, because at the timeremoving the breath all through
your, all through your yes,that's right.
Chakra.
Yeah, you can literally,sometimes you can feel like the
breath moving.
Like when they're telling youmove it to your knees hands, you
can like literally feel thevibrations go through.

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If you get to that really deepmeditative state, you know, it's
like, and I think they use itfor healing.
I, I don't know.
Like, do you guys, you know,mentioned a lot of things and
you've done a lot of things,there's like unmindful, you
know, information and stuff thatI really haven't taken advantage
of either.
And he's always telling me to doit like, and when I have done

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it, it's so nice.
It's so productive.
But do you think.
You can get that state fromdoing incredible work outs,
saunas, or, you know, anythingoutside of that, like outside of
just like, you know, being awareof your breath and.

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Living in a moment.
Are there other ways?
That's a good question.
Really good question.
I more than say the other waysin no, they compliment each
other.
They compliment you, yourworkout, they compliment with
your sauna that you do, right.
have you watched this movielimitless?
Yes.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
How do you use your brain to themaximum capacity?
Right.
And, at times, what do we do?
We set our mind, okay.
This is the way, right.
And what I'm saying is that'sgood.
You know, your workout.
See, I'm saying, you know, evenif you go and then close your
eyes and do meditation, it willnot work because if there is no

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workout, if there is no physicalmoment, then it doesn't
compliment your meditation oryour breathing techniques.
Right.
And it has to go either way fromthe other perspective.
So now you had a great workoutand it's important that you
relax your body and mind also,you do that, right.
You know, in, in one of thedays, you know, you work out,
you go for gym and then one dayit's like complete relaxed.

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it's important that muzzle alsohas to relax.
Right.
Right.
And that's why we say they bothcompliment each other and to
maximize of what you need to getto, to do whatever you need to
do.
Does that make sense, promotesrecovery, like when you're
preparing your body up andtearing your, your minds up, you

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blowing out your CNS, you know,I think it's.
Yeah.
And then I'll do more classeswith you as, because we're
having this podcast.
I feel inspired.
Maybe Tom can join on a coupleof sessions too.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
Actually what we, what we cando, what we can do is anyways,
at the end, you know, we maymaybe do a short meditation, so

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that can help you to relax atthis point of time.
So even us who are listening,they can also do it when they
leave.
Okay.
Yeah, let's do that at the endfor sure.
Just a couple of thoughts as youguys were talking.
One is I'm on a bulk right now.
I think Cy is two.
So I don't know if there's anygood time for me to go do a
group meditation.
Cause I'm eating protein all daylong.
So if I'm not going to be ableto control my farts, that's a

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scary thought.
I might have to do some onlineclasses, but yeah.
And then.
I'm probably going to end uptalking to a lot of people who
are into yoga, but they're likefrom America, like a lot of
white girls love, love yoga atthis point.
So what is something specific tothe way they do yoga in India or

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when you moved here?
What are the differences betweenthe way Americans think about
yoga and the way people fromIndia?
Think about yoga.
That's it, you know, I would saynow it is more global.
There's like white or Indian andthing because you know, every
person, you know, I, I have myown friends who have done, you

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know, we're Americans, you know,they, they have learned yoga.
They have done, you know, wewent to trainings together, like
the teacher's training for yogaand meditation.
So I mastered in a breath andmeditate.
I marshaled in that.
So that way you know, yoga is anaspect of, one of the aspect is

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in, I sold body, right.
And also uniting the body breathand mind together.
So mind more to manage the mindmeditation.
You know, but also work out.
So currently with Americans, Iwould say they're also
exploring, you know, it's allabout learning the skill at the
same time, learning from themaster, right.

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Who has already done then sometechniques.
So right now with the current.
I don't know, I worked to callglobalization or, you know, I'm
more inclusive.
People are more included not toseparate out with the cultures
that people are attending.
Okay.
This is something which we caninitially yoga used to be like
an alien concept for people.

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Right.
And then people used to just,and the way, you know, when
Bikram yoga, you know, all aboutBikram, right?
Bikram, yoga, the hot yoga thathas come.
Have you heard about it?
Bikram.
Yoga is one of the Saint who hascome and then he has started
different hot yoga.
I would say he has come.
So initially people had, oh,your governments.
You need to be really in the.

(29:12):
Whether our heart place and thenyour body needs to be like, you
know, stretched so much.
And now it's like more peopleare aware of fitness.
Yoga doesn't mean only that yogais more of, you know, stretching
at the same time, relaxation,both together.
Right.
And I can see the differencenow.
So I would not differentiatebetween American yoga and Indian

(29:35):
yoga, but it's now it's a globalyoga.
Okay, cool.
And then Sy, I've never doneyoga.
So maybe as a beginner what'ssomething I should expect or, or
what do you find difficult or,or how does it perceive yoga?
So I know you personally, and Iknow.
You know, all about likeaccepting new thoughts and ideas

(29:59):
and like, you know, new cultureand stuff like that.
So that's pretty much like that.
Just having an open mind.
I don't really like, don'texpect to like, oh, this is
going to help me float to Marsor, oh, my, my leg has a cramp
and like, you know, my anklestwisted, this is going to help
me out.
But it does, dude.

(30:19):
It does calm you down.
Like instantly it does also giveyou like the same hit as like a
cup of coffee.
You know, but it's like instantand there's like really no, no
negative aspect to it, otherthan it takes discipline and
time out of your day.
But it also gives it back to youbecause you feel that they

(30:41):
slowed down.
So you know, it's like very, youknow, calming effects at the
beginnings.
So.
It seems like it really helpsyou live in the present moment,
you know?
It seems like he really got tofocus on the breath and on the
body and, and even more thanother exercising, it probably
pulls you in.

(31:02):
And like you were saying, itslows down time.
You know, you're running oryou're lifting, like sometimes
you can kind of zone out on thetreadmill or even if you're
lifting a certain type of way.
But you know, if you'reconstantly stretching or
focusing on your breath, likethat's gonna make things kind of
slow down for you and make thepresent moment kind of elongate,

(31:22):
you know, is what it kind ofsounds like.
Right.
Nice.
Nice.
You hit the point, Tom, you hitthe point, right?
Present moment.
Present moment being in the.
Right.
Have you seen the movie or theKung Fu Panda Panda?
Yeah.
Right.
Everybody can relate to comethat, you know, the what's the

(31:42):
says to the Kung Fu Panda saysthat, you know, a past is the
history.
Future is a mystery and presentis a gift.
Right.
And that is so true.
In current times, we are so busyin social media.
You scroll your, you know, thephone.
Top to bottom every, everysecond.
Do you agree with that?

(32:03):
Right.
Your mind is constantly filledwith information and it's so
hard for us to focus onanything.
Right.
And yoga, one thing is once youshut your mind, even for the
fraction of a second, You haveinstant energy and that's, I was

(32:23):
just mentioning about thecoffee, right.
You know, coffee, why do youdrink it?
Because it also gives you thatinstant relief.
Right.
But also, you know, you'readdicted to it.
That's at one level you'readdicted to it.
But outside at one level, itgives you some, an energy boost
of energy instantly.
And I'm going to tell you.
I have techniques where you canjust do do it for a couple of

(32:45):
minutes, and then you can justfeel the same effects as a
coffee, coffee.
And I'll tell you a techniquewhere you can you do the
technique and then for the nextone to two hours, you are like
totally focused and thenrelaxed.
Okay.
I'll give you a quick, quickanalogy.
Are you ready for it?
Okay, so you all been to school?

(33:07):
So you went to school and thenyou have an exam.
For example, you have an exam.
So one month before the exam,how is the state of mind, stress
or trail?
Right?
One month, one month, one month,one month before the same thing

(33:28):
one day before the exam.
How is your mind stress?
Yes.
Okay.
One day after the exam, how isyour mind?
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, it depends on howI did, but probably still kind
of yeah, the stress a littlebit, but again, after one, one
month after the exam, how isyour mind then?
I'm chill.

(33:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chill.
Right.
But do you have focus at onemonth after the exam?
No focus.
Right.
But one, one day before theexam, do you have focus?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Right.
You're totally focused, but notthe mind is not relaxed,
correct?
Yeah.
But after the exam, the mind isrelaxed, but there's no focus.

(34:10):
Yes.
Yes.
Now, if I tell you, after doingmeditation and breathing for
only for a few minutes, not evenfor hours, For a few, few
minutes and then you startfeeling relaxed and at the same
time, you know, you're sofocused.
Wouldn't that be great?
That would be great.

(34:31):
Yeah.
Right.
This is exactly hooked me upwhen my teacher told me about
this because I used to freak outduring my exams are.
Right.
The thing is I might fail, youknow, my mind goes and I might
fail or I might not do good.
And at times you, you know, whenI'm going for an exam, I know

(34:52):
exactly what page the pagenumber is that, you know, the,
the, the question I, But somehowthe page used to be blank in my
mind.
Have you felt that anytime thatyou know that, you know, you
read it, but the page is blankfor you?
Why, why does it happen?

(35:12):
It happens because the mind isstressed.
When the mind is relaxed, youcan totally bring whatever you
learned.
You can really bring out of it.
And this is the beauty I learnedfrom yoga and meditation, and
that skill really helped meduring my exams.
That's awesome, dude.
That's, that's going to be veryhigh to try some yoga out, you

(35:33):
know another, another quote thatjust came to mind when we
talking about the past and thepresent and the present moment I
heard a saying it was likethinking about the past all the
time is like depression.
You're just thinking aboutregrets and thinking about the
future is just anxiety.
the present moment is the onlyone that you're going to be free
from the anxiety about what'sgoing to happen and like getting
depressed or, or regretful overwhat has already happened, you

(35:56):
know, already had okay Yeah.
So yoga seems like a great wayto pull yourself into that
moment.
Right.
And relax yourself.
That's correct.
That's it?
Because the future is all aboutunknown, right?
You don't know what happens andhow can you just live in the
future because of fear andanxiety hits you really hard.

(36:18):
And then you're alwaysregretting regretting about the
past.
And, but what, what can you doabout it?
Right?
Most of the times, our mind isoscillating between the past and
the future.
Right.
But the skill is to know thatthis is happening, but yet how
do I bring it to the presentmoment it's through the secret
is the breath.

(36:40):
Yeah, I suppose that's what Iwas thinking.
So is there a quick, like breathtrick, maybe that we can give
listeners?
Sure, sure.
So, okay.
Let's do this.
Okay.
If we call this as strawberryStrawbridge, okay.
Y'all know a straw, right.
You know, look, if, for example,you have a straw, you know, you
put it in your mouth, youbreathe in through the straw,

(37:05):
all the breadth.
And reached out to the shop.
Can I keep it eyes closed andwe'll do it a couple of times.
Okay.
Breathe into the strong, what isthe bread?

(37:26):
And we thought to district.
A few more times breaking intothis trucks.
Well, the red and be out at thestroke.

(37:50):
One last time written.
What was the bread?
keep the eyes closed.
Now.
Relax your breath.
You can keep your mouth closed.

(38:15):
Just paid attention to yourbody.
Your breath.
And just see the mind issettling down and slowly you can
open your eyes.

(38:41):
That's cool.
What do you notice?
Do you see the mind settle down?
Yeah, the blank now.
Yeah, it's a weird feeling on aninterview because I usually have
a running list of questions.
So now I'm like, you justblanked my mind now.

(39:04):
I'm just like, okay.
That's good though.
That's good.
Good.
No, so, so one thing you say inthe moment, productivity happens
in the moment.
Initially I used to think, oh myGod, I need to prepare so much
for, you know, the thing.
Right.
But later I realized the momentyour mind becomes relaxed.

(39:26):
You know, you ask your mind, askthe right questions and the
right thing will come out ofyour mind.
That's called intuition in yoursystem.
Intuition.
Intuition is what is getting theright thought at the right time.
And if we get this, you know,you're you will be like ready to

(39:49):
put investments in NFTs orstocks, whatever, because that's
how all the people who have donegreat.
It's all about the intuition.
It's not about, you know, you,you can also fail.
It doesn't matter if you fail,you learn from it.
Right.
And the mindset changes.
This is what I learned when Idid this.

(40:11):
Yeah.
I feel like I always live likeone or two questions above like,
like ahead of time, you know,like you're talking to me and
then I'm thinking about likethe, like the filmmaking
question that I'm going to askyou.
But like now once after doingthat, it's like I'm fully
listening and like, yourthoughts are kind of linking up
with my thoughts.
And, and the next question isisn't getting in the way of the

(40:34):
current question and the currentanswer.
That's cool.
So what about you?
Sigh?
What do you, what are you, whatdo you get out of that?
I mean, that was totallyrefreshing.
It was great.
It was nice.
I needed that.
I forget how quick and easy thisstuff is.

(40:56):
And like, it really triggerssome of the deeper level stuff.
And keep going back to it.
I'm really doing myself adisservice, not taking advantage
of the shit, especially whenit's so close to me.
That was nice.
And it's like you really feel itacross your body.
That's really where, and youfeel it in your breath,'cause

(41:17):
you're just, you know, you'recleaning yourself out, using
breath.
That's how I feel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's powerful.
I want to give us time to talkabout your filmmaking.
So maybe we'll, we'll turn tosome yoga conversation, but it
seemed like that was maybe thething that you're most
passionate about.
So.
I want to give you some time totalk about that.

(41:38):
So why did you first becomeinterested in storytelling and
specifically filmmaking?
Sure.
So when I was young, I alwaysused to think the no
storytelling was the waybecause, you know, I used to
watch a lot of movies.
So when I used to watch a lot ofmovies, I know I used to be
like, you know, you, you arealways visualize, oh, I am the

(41:58):
character.
I am the, you know, the hero orthe villain.
Right.
And that's how he used to go.
And then.
Okay, I'm going to tell yousomething.
So I remember there's a Indianmovie.
I watched Indian music.
I used to watch it a lot ofIndian movies and then a lot of
martial arts movies.
That's how I I'm so passionateabout martial arts.
So when I did martial arts whenI used to do martial arts, I

(42:22):
used to do watch movies.
And then you go all you'reyou're moving or you you're
flying.
Right.
You know, they used to play.
And then I broke my toothbecause of.
You remember?
I broke my tooth when I wasflying my legs up in the air and
then I fell on the ground and mylike a backflip kit.

(42:46):
Cause he called Bruce Lee.
Some shit like this.
This is when I lived in India tocall you on, was known for doing
stunts.
Like you would see on likeIndian films and like wrestling.
So true size, like nailed it.
So, you know, I was sopassionate about that, you know,

(43:08):
and you're watching that moviesand you're becoming that right.
And when we go to, for a moviefor two to three hours, you're
totally merged into it.
Your emotions are in it.
And you're like, oh my God, youbecome the person.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah.
That's the experience that acinema or a movie set experience

(43:29):
and, and and when I grew upafter some time, you know, I w I
was like, how do they make thismovies?
You know, how do they put somuch money, time, effort to make
such kind of movies right nowit's become, it became so easy
because you have zoom calls thatare happening.
You're seeing videos that peopleare making, you have phones that
people are making video on.

(43:50):
The art of storytelling issomething which I was always
fascinated about.
Not every anybody can shoot, butwhy one movie is good than the
other it's because how you canmake people relate to
themselves, but also somevisuals that you will, you will

(44:10):
not see with.
Right.
That's how it goes.
Then I was interested in thatthen.
So when I came, came to us and,you know, We used to play around
in our how I used to live withfour more friends it's dorm.
We used to live together.
We used to play around, not so Ialways want to be in the front.

(44:30):
They want to be like in thefront, like a hero or, you know,
like if you lean, right, likeit's like tar or sometimes I've
been going like what's thatwhat's that 10 hours, right?
You, you, you want to becomethose kinds of characters, but
at the same time then I don'tknow, one day I realized like,
let me see how I can be behindthe camera to shoot it.

(44:54):
And then when I did it, I lookedcrap.
Like I know nothing.
It's like what?
It's so stupid.
I, you see on this movie andthen you shoot it in.
It doesn't look good.
And then I started researchingabout the cameras, the lenses,
you know, about red camera, redcamera is one of the more
industry level, camera, red andairy.

(45:15):
They're like expensive.
They're like 50,000 grand, 50grand, a hundred grand cameras,
you know, and then I wasn't acamera, a hundred.
And the small body, what is it?
And the lens also costs like,you know, they're also like 10
grand, 20 grand, 30 grand.
I had this thought like how, youknow, this much small things can

(45:37):
make a huge films.
Right.
And that gave me interest on,you know, okay, let me go and
research and what do I need tolearn?
But people used to say, peopleused to say, if you need to.
You know, learn about, you know,how to make a film.
You need to go for moviefilament a school.

(45:59):
And have you heard about thisnow?
Oh, you need to go to filmschool, but it was costing so
much.
The going for a filling schoolis, is very expensive.
And, and then I, I researchedfew few people who did not go to
school, but yet they are now inthe industry.
There they are doing very great,just different.
Christopher Nolan is one of minesprays and like, he's pumped

(46:21):
that he's my favorite.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
My favorite here's my favoritetoo, as well.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
Hi, fi interest for Nolan saysin one of the interviews he says
is that he, he didn't know howto operate, but he just jumped
in, in one of the Mo always, hewent, just went there and then

(46:41):
he started shooting.
Right.
And he learned while doing.
And that inspired me.
And then I started going to thelocal, small, small clubs, and
then I started working withthem.
They used to look crab, but Istarted learning because you
failed and you learn.
Right.
And that's when I started then,you know, from yoga, one thing I

(47:05):
learned from yoga andmeditation, that visual
thinking, we call it as wishfulthinking.
You want something you wish for.
And you leave it.
Right.
And that inspired me.
Then I said, I want to learn butalso I want to learn about it,
but also I want to, I want towish that I will get this one in

(47:26):
my.
Okay.
So that helped me.
So then I said, look, you know,okay, I'll buy these cameras.
I'll buy this lenses that atsome point in my life.
So it took me 10 years to thinkabout it.
And then I bought all thecameras that are really in, in
industry.
And then I started my ownproduction company.

(47:47):
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So I love like learning aboutpeople's passions and seeing how
they all start to connecttogether.
Cause like initially you sent meover this list of like martial
arts, like film, you knowcomputer programming, yoga, you
like all these things.
And now I'm starting to see howthey all connect because you
like the martial arts movies.

(48:07):
So that connects to film, whichin producing movies kind of
connects to, you know computerscience and, and Coding, you
know, technology and, you know,I'm, I'm starting to see how all
the passions pieced togetherbecause someone who's passionate
about this many things, theycan't just stand on their own.
Right.
They have to have theseintersecting kind of moments
like the whole martial arts andmovies, things like if those

(48:30):
don't intersect, it's kind ofhard to be really into two
different things that are justcompletely separate of each
other, you know?
So I'm, I'm kinda starting tosee how all of your interests
kinda, kinda.
Have an overlapping, he startedthis much earlier than him, you
know, he's mentioning like hestarted this in India, like

(48:50):
before, like he came here andlike started shooting.
Right.
He was, he would literally bro,like he was like the cool one,
like, cause he would do likemagic tricks and shit.
He would carry around.
Like in India, like he hadtricks like magic card tricks.
He was there to create momentsin time.

(49:11):
Right.
Like that's how I, like, he'slike my favorite family member.
Right.
Cause like he's always createdmoments.
So this started like a long timeago.
He wants to, is he, he's not,he's being humble, but he would
do like magic tricks, bro.
I like 11, 12, 13, like justdoing, you know, he just wanted
to be.

(49:32):
You know, creating moments,wanting to be like the star, the
attention getter, like it'sbecome a lot more humble and
he's like done it in so manycool ways, you know, inspiring
everybody in the family.
Like it's cool stuff.
That's amazing.
So what what have you actuallydone with this film company

(49:52):
then?
Like what are some of thechallenges?
What are some of the thingsyou've actually accomplished?
Like.
What do you do?
What do you do here with thesecameras that you were able to
get?
So right now so I'm my firstfeature film.
I just signed up first featurefilm.
That's going to be starting thisfall.

(50:12):
So I'm working with the directorwith my company.
So I'm going to be the DOP ordirector of photography for this
film.
It's a shame that it's calledliving with.
living the dream.
which is like in line with myown life.
Right.
And, but also right now, manymovies that I'm in Atlanta,

(50:32):
Georgia, you know, Atlanta,Georgia is like a menial.
And there are people who doindie filmmaking.
So they rent cameras from me andsome of the movies, bad candy is
one of the movie, you know theperson who rented my lenses and
my camera.
And they're also, there's onemore show it's called a Wolfman
and the city it's going to comein the future.

(50:53):
So that is also being worked onit's in, in, in editing, right.
And also right now, while I'mtalking, my lenses are being
rented on another movie setright now.
Oh, cool.
This has been a long dream.
That's just recently likemanifested itself basically
then.
Yeah, it's been, I would saythree years, it's been from

(51:15):
three years, you know, got toomuch attention and I would go an
extra mile to help out peoplebecause there are people who are
in it who have passions, butstill they don't have money or,
you know, they are going tosomething.
So I put together for them.
That's what they choose, theycreate and then, so I have my
rental company it's on sharedrates, shared it is I heard

(51:36):
about.
It's a website similar to likeUber or Airbnb, like similar to
that shared rate is a companywhich rents out your cameras and
people can rent out cameras.
Personal, you know, people canenter.
So if you have expensive stuff,so share grid.

(51:57):
So I have my own site where youcan see all my reviews and
stuff, people like I go an extramile to do something for them.
And then in turn they knowthat's how they, they come back
again.
And again, that's one thing Ilearned that, you know, you, you
be good for others.
Send them the good will come toyou.
Come back.
Yeah.
I mean, like you've beengrinding for more than three
years with your camera work.

(52:19):
Like once again, he's leavingout big chunks of info here.
Like he would do weddings.
He would shoot videos for theOstrom, like just demos,
whatever it was, man.
Like you would, he would just,he would just shoot stuff,
right?
Like you could really see itdevelop just like watching his
IgE.

(52:39):
Yeah.
So-so and stuff like you shootin the aerial, use all this cool
stuff, you know, you know, juststart out with like doing magic
tricks and a small box cameras.
Yes.
I got a good point because I hadthis thought know, how do you
shoot from the top?
Right.
You know, drones are like usedto be expensive at, at one point

(53:01):
of time.
And then I w always wanted tolearn about how to shoot with
drones.
And then I had this.
The again, coming back to thebasics, right.
Wishful thinking and going backto the, be in the present
moment.
So I used to think that, oh, Iwill own a drone.
And then I will, I will practicewith a drone.
So I owned a drone, I startedpracticing it.
I lost one, you know, you know,how do you ask me?

(53:24):
Right.
How do you face challenges?
But yet.
so it's good that I facechallenges so that I could learn
from it.
And that was ready to facechallenges, any kind of
challenges that used to come.
So, you know, initially it'sabout learning the technology,
but also finding time for the,you know, for the passion that
you have.
Right?
Because I, I work full time in aperfect, a software engineer.

(53:48):
Then I became a lead softwareengineer.
I have a team of 10 people.
So, so you're managing a team.
You need to find time for yourpassions as well.
Right?
So that was a challenging thingto have time and energy because

(54:08):
you know, you're working.
So in software engineering, youknow, in a company as you are
so.
Busy working, and then you comeback, you feel tired and I'm
glad I, I learned yoga andmeditation because that had the
tools I shared about that usedto help me to come back, sit for
20 minutes and boom, eight hoursmore.

(54:29):
I could go like, you know, youcan, you could go more than what
you think because everybody haslike the 24 hours a day.
Right.
Not, not working.
So I could also find fit in mypassions in India.
So that's how I built.
Yeah.
That's so difficult.
Right?
I'm doing the same with myfitness app and in this podcast,
trying to keep these going ontop of my normal career and it's

(54:50):
a lot to juggle.
It's a lot to kind of balanceand yeah, man, it's always, it's
always interesting and great totalk to people with side
projects because you need toconnect with people who also.
Can keep pushing and keeppushing in the face of their 40
hour work week, you know?
Cause it's not easy.
Right.
So just by owning these piecesof equipment there, so.

(55:14):
There.
So top tier grade cameras thatalmost turned itself into a
business by lending them outand, and, and working with other
people.
But is there like a passionproject that you have made on
your own,, a movie or somethingthat you, that you are like
extra involved?
Yes.
So one is the living, the dream,which I would anyways.

(55:35):
You can follow my IgE and stateor where they're at at SC
Chinchilla.
I it's my G and also I've beensharing.
So I have my website, w w w dotcycle and.com.
You can see some of the moviesthat I made over there.
You can see that out there aswell.
So, and the other movie which Iworked on is called the Wolf man

(55:57):
in the city.
So it's going to be releasingthe trailer is out now, and then
it's going to be releasing soon.
And then one more Indian moviethat I, I worked with.
It's a big movie.
It's a feature film that Iworked as a, as a, an assistant
DOP, I would say that I shot inus as well.
So yeah.

(56:17):
Cool.
So, what are some like basicmaybe film techniques that you
learned early on?
Like, what are some of the, thefirst type of things that you
learned as far as like cameraangles or you know, just
different ways to, or tricks tofilm something, you know, that.
That looks cool.

(56:39):
Okay.
So I was charged with whichyells, so my name movie comes
in, right.
You know, when a picture.
So I started with photography tosay that in in 2011, I started
with photography and then I usedto look at the view.
You can capture a certainamount, but also.

(57:00):
All the movies about the lightand the dark, the light area and
the dark area.
So once I started noticing it, Istarted like, okay, where do.
And use it.
I go their attention too.
Right.
You know, for example, have youheard about the rule of third?
You know, they follow the ruleof thirds, which is like, you

(57:22):
know, it's like a box.
If you have a square, you know,you have like walks and then two
boxes on Woodside take, youknow, two lines.
Oh yeah.
The nine.
Yes.
And then the nine, and then, youknow, either this way, this way,
when your eyes are like notlooking straight, but if the
view is symmetry, right, youreyes can go into the middle.
But if the view is, if, if yourbackground is not symmetry,

(57:45):
there is not similar tickle.
Then it goes to the side, right.
Of people used to say, and theseare the, some of the things
which I started researching on,like how to do it.
So the first thing is, you know,composition right now.
How do you compose a frame.
The second thing is nowtechnically, how do I show it in

(58:06):
the camera?
That is in a flight.
And then there's somethingcalled depth of field.
If you heard about it, the depthof field is something that is
focus.
And I would say in a, in alayman terms, and then you see
in movies, right.
You know, something is blurredin the background and then
you're focused like the wayright now side, you can see size

(58:26):
focus.
And there is a background.
And suddenly if he goes out offocus in the blanked, into the.
Right now, how do you do that?
So that's, you know, that needsa technical evaluation.
You know, how much apertureaperture I put Shirley, we call
it a pitcher.
How much aperture you're you'redialing it in, in the cameras.
So that is what something, whichI learned at the Tetons.

(58:49):
And I learned.
I was like, okay, then there'slot more to it.
It's not just clicking a cameraand then picking a record
button.
Right.
And then started implementing,started shooting events and
stuff.
So started failing.
I would say initially startedfailing.
Like I used to like go mad, likewhy I did my, all my in a

(59:11):
learning, you know, it's, it's away that we learn in school.
And then when you go to job,Scratching your head.
What did I learn?
So it was the same way.
You know, when I learned so muchon YouTube and then I went there
and then nothing used to work.
So with so much of you know,going back in and Dyckman
failing, it really helped me tolike, okay, this is the shot.

(59:33):
You know, once you have thatexperience for example a movie.
Is in this controlledenvironment, most of them will
be right with the light amountof light you have.
It's all done in pre-production.
We call it as pre-production inmovies, right.
Pre-production production andpost production, right.
53, 6 off.
It was like setting the sceneand preproduction, lightings,

(59:57):
everything.
That's right.
And pre-production is what isimportant because you know, a
movie can fail inpre-production.
Hmm.
Right.
And you know, the art ofstorytelling and it's important
to collaborate.
Like the way you guys arecollaborating with several
people like the base, Tom,you're calling several people.
Do your, you know, to a podcast.

(01:00:18):
It's all about collaboration.
Success comes withcollaborations in, in
filmmaking.
It's not one person's job.
It's important that youcollaborate with several
artists.
Right.
You know, the person who is inthe scene and the person who is
behind the camera, right.
At the same time, the personwho, who can do the set design.
Right.

(01:00:38):
And these are all importantaspects, so I went personally to
set to shoot for others.
Right.
And I've seen the amount ofstress drastic.
Carrie is.
You know what we look in theHollywood, the way they show it
in the Hollywood.
It's not like the same baby,because I don't know if you
have, if you you've seen, therewas a moment that happened with

(01:01:00):
the movie labor, right?
They were not paid enough.
They're they're staying for 14,15, 16 hours on set.
They're stressed out.
They don't care who is shooting,what?
Right.
And I could see that.
On movie sets.
And then, you know, I said,okay, technically it's, it's
good to learn because you know,that's when you, you come out,

(01:01:23):
you come out different from whatyou are over there, because
everybody can turn on a light,but you need to know how to use
that.
And different terms in moving.
This is like DOP is like thedirector of photography who
takes care of the visual arts.
Right.
But also there is a gaffer,Gafford is someone who is Farid
up, who lights stuff.

(01:01:44):
He has lighting.
So he has to work with the DOPto see what exactly he needs.
And he needs to talk to thedirector.
Oh, I've lied to, oh yeah, thereyou go.
You're lighting, you're settinga different lighting and stuff.
Yeah.
And that's how it works.
So I don't want to take moretechnical, technical tasks, but

(01:02:07):
all it takes is, you know yes,you need to have the eye to see.
But at the same time also to me,so I just changed his background
to be Bitcoin daddy, MichaelSaylor.
I'll pull up the meetings atthis hour.
I'm feeling dizzy.

(01:02:27):
That's funny as shit.
Oh, wait, what are you, what is,so what do you think about my
setup?
Like as like a film guy, do Ihave a good podcast set up?
Well, great.
It can be great.
What you did.
Good.
How do I improve it?
So, okay, so the, yeah, that's agood question because the amount

(01:02:52):
of light is so even on yourface, right.
If you want to something to becinematic, right?
So the, the light over here.
And then in a little dark andthis is light.
Okay.
So you have a light on you onyour right side, right?
It's on your right side.

(01:03:12):
Yeah.
I've I have two lights.
Huh, so you have to likestraight.
So, so what it is, so we, wecall something as one is you
know, key light, and one isfield light.
Key light is the one whichlights your face.
Right.
And then one is filled.
Light fill light is, has to belittle less than the key light.

(01:03:33):
Okay.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then you need to have a,Hey.
Hair light because you don'thave headlight yet.
So there's one light behind you.
So that separates you from thebackground.
Dan, you can see that the depthin the 2d to the only two
lights.

(01:03:57):
Okay.
Saya out of all of a Kulaniprojects, like what, what are
you the most impressed with?
Cause I know you keep sayinghe's humble.
What, what is something that,that you need to brag about the
projects he's made it'sprojects?
I mean like the movies that he'sreleased, like these are, you
know, the Telugu movies, theIndian they're released to huge

(01:04:21):
theaters, you know, it's likeprobably millions of Indian
people have watched.
Right.
It's not like what's yourfavorite?
What was the name?
The color photo, the colorphoto.
Okay.
What is this?
What is this about?
So it's basically about a personwho is within it's, like in a

(01:04:44):
village.
Right.
You know, he, he he's like, he'sdark, you know, people used to
like, he's not, he's not thatimpressed him.
And so it girl comes in and she,she really likes this guy
because, you know, he's veryhumble.
He's down to art, but also hecares for others.
Right.
Yeah, her brother who doesn'tlike, like him.

(01:05:07):
So, so they, they try toseparate, I'm just telling it
just right.
But if the whole movie is abouthow he, he really comes out of
the situation, but yet he caresfor that, for that goal.
And then later he dies.
But, but the girl still has thememory of.

(01:05:28):
That sounds like Shakespearianalmost.
Yeah.
A lot of Indian movies are,they're very like romantic
heavy, and then there's so muchtragedy.
Like someone has to die, right.
Someone's going to die.
Like somebody's uncle or dad'sgoing to die, but then there's
love at the end.
There's like some sort ofromance.

(01:05:51):
It's probably on, you canprobably speak to it better than
I can.
yeah, that's how the term red,the color photo is like, you
know, the picture is in the mindthat stores for ages.
Right.
And it's so powerful.
That's, that's the power ofmovie make, right.
You know, you see this movie andthen you live for forever.
On that.
That's why memories are sopowerful because you see

(01:06:13):
something, you cannot erase itfrom your, your mind.
So that's how the color for thetitle comes in.
That's why I like doing thesepodcasts.
I can remember this when Ilearned stuff, you know, I can,
I have a record of it, but youknow, I, I, I don't want to make
fun of it too much, but I, Ican't lie.
I love these clips of like theseIndian action movies where like
some guy.

(01:06:33):
Jump on a tree and like pull itback and sling himself over like
80 feet.
And he'll like, hit like connectarms with eight of his buttons,
but they'll like spin around ina circle and they'll like, do
some crazy actions.
Like the action in Indian moviesare, are always insane, right?
Like level.
Yeah, that is true.
What do you love that shit?
Like, people love it.

(01:06:55):
They love wrestling, likeAmerican wrestling, like WWE.
They love the spectacle of it.
Fake.
Like we love Jackie Chan, BruceLee movies, like crazy martial
arts.
They love a fast and furious,like, you know, spectacles, you
know, like Indian people arelike very colorful and we need

(01:07:16):
like, lots of shit.
We need dances.
We need songs within the movie.
Are we going to be distracted?
Like, there's some these, like,so it's like every moment.
In India is like a Marvelfucking Marvel.
So it's not just like some indieflick, you know, it's like,
yeah.
Cause there's so many people youhave to hit like huge audiences

(01:07:39):
in India.
You can't make a, there arethose like the coloring for the
color photo and stuff.
You know, which did I'm sure.
Fantastic.
But like most of the movies arespectacles and like now
Americans are doing that all thetop movies.
There's no, like there's no,like, you know, the king Richard
one, whatever who, how manypeople really even saw that,

(01:08:00):
like everyone went to see doom,you know?
That's like, you want thespectacle three hour long Indian
crazy action scenes.
Yeah.
The new movie, I think I shouldtell Tom.
So the, the movie.
R R R so you can Google that.
Now it has become like in usit's, it's, it's like third, you

(01:08:21):
know, it's like top three.
And it's crazy.
action.
But also it has like Indianwhat's the emotion to it.
So in the, the the director hassurprised, like, you know, all
the logic is still good.
Yeah.
You need to watch we visualstorytelling.
That's what we call, I thinkit's called rrr.
Rrr.

(01:08:41):
Yeah.
Maybe I'll check that.
so what should we talk aboutcrypto for a little bit?
I feel like PSI.
We should, we should talk aboutsome stuff that you like, you
just have to look at a chart,you know, Anytime you've,
everybody's scared.
Or like, even if people aregetting too excited, like what
Collin's mentioning, you know,the stock market, all this is

(01:09:03):
just like, it's just a gauge ofyour emotions.
Okay.
The stock market crypto market.
It's just the emotional swingsof everybody, right.
You're taking a collection ofeverybody's money and how
they're reacting to price, howthey're emotionally like getting
triggered to buy or sell, right?

(01:09:25):
Like Ukraine or just happened.
Right.
Wheat prices went crazy.
Oil prices went crazy.
You know, the Russian doll theRussian Drop like 50% within a
day.
This is people emotionallyreacting to news.
Right.
So, you know, you just have tolike, kind of take a step back.
Like when you see so many thingslike this happening in the world

(01:09:49):
and the economy, people leantowards safety, right?
Like gold or.
You know, commodities.
That's why these stocks aregoing crazy right now, natural
and clean energies going crazybecause of all the trade
sanctions we have with Russia,you know, these are all
emotional reactions at a globalscale, right?

(01:10:11):
So like when you get it reallyget into like the charts and
stuff, like you can liketechnically see how people are
reacting to things.
So that's.
A good gauge of things and it'sthe ebb and flow of things.
It's natural.
Like there's been more as beforethere's been trade sanctions
before shit goes up shape.

(01:10:32):
That's all it is.
It just depends on theindividual and your mind.
Like, I can't tell somebody thatwhen to buy, when to sell, make
you money, like my risk can betotally different than your
risk.
Right.
I can sit in a losing positionfor months and be okay with it.
Right.
Some people can't do that.
Some people shouldn't do that.

(01:10:54):
And like, are you trading?
The thing about crypto is like,there's so much of it.
Like you need to look at it likeas a business transaction, don't
fall in love with every NFT.
Don't fall in love with everymini project, you know, there's,
it's going to be like the.combubble burst.
Like there's going to be greatpieces that come from it, but

(01:11:15):
you know, you know, MySpacestill isn't here, but Facebook
still is.
From an investing perspective,right?
Like it's better to have along-term mindset.
When, when, like you weresaying, people are getting
emotional about some of thecurrent things going on.
Right.
That's kind of how you, you stayabove it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You take yourself out of it.

(01:11:36):
You don't look at news as much,you know, you look at technicals
more because the numbers.
We'll speak to you more clearlythan five different people
talking to you from you to taketalk all this shit, right?
The numbers is a collection ofall those people and how people
are reacting to them spreadingthese words.

(01:11:57):
Right?
So it's like, I'd rather like,you know, I'll focus on real
news, like the FLMC or, youknow, buy it and speaking on
Russia terms and like real news,but I'm not gonna watch some
YouTube or she'll some.
You know, it's not real to me.
That's just like shell.
That's a marketing scheme.

(01:12:18):
Yeah.
Kulon what do you think aboutcryptocurrencies and the
blockchain from like a technicalperspective?
Have you thought about it much?
I wanted to start because then Istarted with side eye image to
talk about this and then, okay.
I really wanted to start oncrypto.
Cause I started on Bitcoin atone, one point of time, you
know, initially a long ago,long, long, long ago, no, when

(01:12:41):
the Bitcoin was like way less.
Right.
when I came here, one of thethings is, you know in India we
learn about savings.
You save money and then you buy.
But here you put all the moneyand then you use your credit
card to pay it later.
Right.
You know, that sort of theconcept goes in.
So initially when I came in, soit's all about, okay, let me

(01:13:03):
buy, buy things.
And then, so the savings wentdown because Bitcoin and crypto.
You put the money that you havefrom your savings to something
that you buy, right.
Then that's when you buy, youbuy the currency and then you,
you keep it until it goes higheror lower.
They lower you lose it.
So when I started.

(01:13:26):
I, I wish I would have kept itin at that point of time.
It was like, oh, you know, I'mone of the personnel like a
regret, like, oh, I did.
Why did I not take that?
And then just keep it that way.
Right.
So then now I I'm, I'm, I'mlooking forward to, because I, I
believe more than.
And, you know, going compoundingthe the power of compounding

(01:13:47):
more than crypto, the power ofcompounding is like, you keep it
for a certain years and then theit multiplies, right?
Yeah.
The utility of crypto and likethe functioning technical
aspects of.
Like how you're saying you cancompound your interests.
You can lend out to people.

(01:14:09):
You can defy as well.
It's just a fact technology.
Then what banking uses, like arethey use like cobalt systems
that takes forever to run.
It's old as shit.
It takes more energy to run itthan any Bitcoin mine.
All this news you hear is justBS because why isn't it shut

(01:14:30):
down?
Why are governments working on afed coin right now?
Why are they doing that?
But they're saying, oh yeah,Bitcoin is taking too much
energy, but you're working onsomething.
Mm.
Hmm.
They love the technology and theutility.
It's like, how can you market itinto your own thing?

(01:14:50):
Right?
Like, and then with, at leastthat I have side to learn all
this stuff.
So it just, it gets really cool.
Right.
You know, you, you get to hereand then you get inspired not to
put all the savings at onelevel, but also you should start
putting slowly, slowly.
Right.
That's how it, it increases atsome point.
And that's one thing.
Yeah.
And like, you know, there's,there should be like the 50, 25,

(01:15:12):
25 rule, 50%.
In high caps, solid projects,index fund S and P 500 Bitcoin.
I would say Bitcoin is a safeinvestment now.
Right?
It's worth more than like, youknow, Amazon, all this shit.
This is a, this is an entity ofits own.

(01:15:33):
Another thing, like twenty-fivepercent in medium, like medium
risk.
And then the 25% in riskyassets, like marijuana stocks
or, you know, lower cap cryptosor a new clean energy thing, you
know?
So if you want to, like, youhave to be able to take risks
because you're not going to makemoney by just buying the S and P
500.

(01:15:54):
You are taking care ofinflation.
By buying the S and P 500 indexand like the top a hundred, you
know, like Amazon, Google,you're only saving yourself from
investments or sorry, inflationdoing that.
Well, inflation just went up 8%this month.
So your dollar is now 10%.

(01:16:17):
It's 90 cents.
So your savings account istrash, right?
So you need to.
You need to do the 50 20, 25 25row by your index funds.
Get your safety and get you somegold commodities.
That shit will always go up.
Oil will always go up.

(01:16:37):
So it seems to me like a bigdifference just between like the
investing and the savingmindset.
Right.
And this is something that Ididn't realize till recently is,
you know, yeah.
You can save money forsomething.
Right.
But you could also invest allyour money and then borrow
against your investments.
Right.
And then still use that moneyfor like a down payment on the

(01:17:00):
house or a new car.
And then it's just like takingout.
Against yourself.
Right.
So there, you know, there areways of just basically borrowing
against your investments andtreating it like a savings while
it's also investing.
And then when it comes down tolike how to, how to invest that
money, I don't know anythingabout right.
But that's just kind of arealization that I've come to.

(01:17:22):
Recently as I've startedthinking about this stuff, is
that true?
So, absolutely correct.
Absolutely correct.
And we spoke a little bit aboutit last time too, and that's
what Michael Saylor does.
There is a good, there's a suchthing as called good debt.
Michael Saylor takes out and not$250 million debt, I guess,
micro strategy, every couple ofmonths buying Bitcoin, he
doesn't care what the price is.

(01:17:45):
Why is that?
Because the more asset you have,the more the banks will give you
money for these not going to getliquidated.
Like there's no like possibilityof this shit, like going down
against it, you know, like youcan definitely lend against your
assets.
You know, people buy a home,they take out, you know, they

(01:18:06):
get equity in a home and thenthey buy another home using that
equity and they flip homes like.
But then, When it comes to likethe technology behind
cryptocurrency, right?
Like the thing I'm gettingexcited about is that like,
right, no one owns Bitcoin.
So it's this decentralizedentity that everyone sort of
buys into and, and people arestarting to build all sorts of

(01:18:30):
new.
Like they call it web threetechnologies, right.
With, with this same sort ofblockchain technology.
So, you know, for instance, Ithink there's browsers that are
starting to pop up, that thatwill pay you just to use them.
Google makes money off of usjust for using their browser.
And so now there's a systemsthat are getting put in place
where where are you, whatevertools, whatever software tools

(01:18:52):
you use, there should be somesort of decentralized like in 10
years from now, there should besome sort of decentralized
platform behind that that hasactually.
Paying you for the data and thetime that you're spending on any
certain platform.
Right.
So I don't know if, if you guys,because you work in the software
space, right.
Have you seen people leave yourcompany for web through new web

(01:19:13):
three companies?
Or have you looked into thistechnology in any sort of way.
this is something new that I'm,I'm listening for sure people
are, people are leaving for, youknow, bigger, better companies.
And then also companies whichcan pay higher right now,
because right now, what ishappening is in from my current
software experience that I'veseen people are leaving for

(01:19:35):
online jobs because, you know,remote jobs, right.
And at the same time, they'realso doing like two or three
jobs at the same time and peopleare doing.
And then if, if, and because thecompanies, because if you're, if
you're working in a company likea big company, then you have
stocks as well on the side,they, they give stocks and then,

(01:19:56):
you know, they, you know, youcan, you can put more on stocks
and then if you're going toanother company, you can write.
Take out the stocks and then youcan use, you can take out stocks
and then you can put it inanother company as well.
So I'm seeing people are leavingmaybe I don't know if this is
the technology that they'regoing through, but it's a good
thing that I can explore aswell.
So that's something I can sharemore about it.

(01:20:19):
Yeah.
Web three is cool.
And we knew, see micro-strategypeople going there because you
know, if their MicroStrategy isclosely connected to the crypto
space, So we do see peoplejoining actually chain-link as a
big, you know, company here inNova.
And I know some people that workat chain link and they do like

(01:20:39):
security stuff for it.
Make sure packets get there,whatever it's cool stuff.
It's new and they like whatColleen is saying.
They offer more money.
They're the ones with big bagsright now.
And they'll be like, oh yeah,here's a an NFT.
You think kids want to go tolike boring old, like Facebook
where, or even Google, wherethey looked at like demons or

(01:21:03):
they want to go to like Solano.
They're like, oh, this is prettysnake NFT.
We'll give you.
And you know, you earn money,you know, you get paid in
Bitcoin.
If you want, or you get thedollar.
It's just more freedom.
Web three is like peer-to-peerman.
There's no.
Middlemen blocking you fromanything.
Like if I, if I'm watching you,if somebody is listening to your

(01:21:25):
podcast, why the fuck doesSpotify need to take money from
it?
We have this, we have thistechnology, right?
Everyone's aware of how thistechnology works.
Now get hub is there.
That's why we see so much likerandom software popping up all
these random browsers.
Right.
Like, that's why you see allthese metaverse plays when the

(01:21:47):
metaverse becomes more real iswhen they figure out how to
connect them.
All right.
And that's only going to beavailable through the
blockchain.
Right?
Cause you can have all thesemulti-verse blah, blah, blah,
all this year in the centralland.
And you're in Starbucks land.
It's not, it's not going to meanshit until you connect it all.
So, and that's, that's, that'sthe future.

(01:22:10):
What about, are there anyspecific coins that you're
become interested in since thelast time I talked to you?
No, honestly, you know, likewe've been, you know, a little
bearish when you get there'stimes you don't look for new
projects because they're notgoing to get me funding.
You, you use this taunted.

(01:22:30):
The good coins, Ethereum, yourBitcoin, of course, your Luna,
your salon.
You use this time to reallyaccumulate projects that you
already have your foot in.
And you know, these are going tobe good.
These are, these are deals,stocks, too.
Lots of deals out there.

(01:22:50):
So now no new projects, youknow, you know, a loop rings got
a new additive T marketplacewith GME, you see GME and AMC
popping off recently, you know,which is sketch because you
know, Jimmy's about to regainstops about the shutdown, like
80% of all their stores.

(01:23:11):
So like, you know, they'removing more digitally, you know,
That's a risky stock.
That's something you play with.
If you want to make a lot ofmoney or you want to lose a lot
of money, that's it.
True.
Well, I feel like we're, we'resort of reaching a good time
limit for the episode.

(01:23:31):
There's definitely a lot oftopics we didn't get to touch
on.
Is there anything else you guyswant to talk about for like the
last five minutes?
So I was here in this export.
Right.
You know, and I went to thissuppression Russian booth, and
then they, they researched somuch on artificial intelligence.
And then in the.
Right.
And the brain has so muchcapacity because everything is

(01:23:54):
that came out, even the crypto,whatever you say is to the brain
right now that the informationis there, you know, people has
that information and in, in therealm of you know, spiritual or,
I would say you'll get terms.
I would say that is thatconsciousness that connects all
these different minds together.

(01:24:15):
Right?
We did.
We just did a few breathing, afew breaths, and then suddenly
we felt so calm and relaxed,right.
At times that there is a sayingthat, you know what you think.
The other person also can, canthink the same way because the
minds also connect at adifferent level and the

(01:24:38):
information that is beingprovided right now, it's only
like 0.5% of what is therearound the.
And we did not even tap throughit, and this is just the
beginning.
Right.
And then that can be tabbed onlyif you can go deeper into your
own self or your own mind.
Right.
And mine has so many secrets andtechnology can, you know my

(01:25:01):
group grew and it grew ourmaster, you know, whom I meant
it's called his name is Trisha,Ravi Shanker.
And he's the, he's the master.
Who am I learned that thisbreathing techniques and
meditation from, so he sharedone thing, you know, technology
can, always shrink the worldbecause now because of with the

(01:25:22):
phones, we feel we are sodisconnected.
More than connected.
Right.
But initially when you see when,when the phones are, I don't
know when, when I was young, youknow, you thought the phone, I
used to wait to meet my otherside of the family, but when we
met, we were so close.
And then when we are away, wealways used to have those

(01:25:43):
memories right now with thephone available.
I still don't.
The people like where there'ssomewhere around, they also have
a phone, but I don't call them.
I feel like so, so sometimestechnology can string the word.
So that's when spiritualityaspect comes in in where it can
also expand and then uniteeveryone together.

(01:26:06):
So I would say.
And encourage people to goexplore themselves and then go
deep within, and then learnsomething about their own mind
that intern give secrets out, toexplore whatever is going on
blockchain or NFTs.
So you can bring more creativeinto this technological world.

(01:26:28):
Yeah, that's very true.
We've got a disconnect toconnect, right?
That's it.
I got it.
All right.
That seems like a very goodplace to end it on.
So thank you guys so much.
Sighs slash kulon.
It was great meeting you.
I think we should do this againat some point because we didn't
even get to talk about martialarts or, or even technology very

(01:26:50):
much.
Right.
So this is definitely was likea.
A yoga slash film episode.
I think those were two of greattopics to pick out of your
lineup to focus on.
You know, I wanted to learnabout yoga and film seems to be
the thing that you're the mostpassionate about.
So I'm glad we got to talk aboutthat and then say, thank you so
much for continuing to set theseup.
Something cool about a podcastis that you get to like boost

(01:27:11):
people up and be like, Hey, lookhow awesome this guy.
And it means a lot to me thatyou keep coming back and helping
me boost people's signal and,and kind of are willing to sit
here and, and, you know just aidto this interview and let me
interview your, your uncle causeyou know, I wouldn't be able to
meet as many people without youjust coming in and introducing

(01:27:33):
me like this.
So it's, it's really powerfuland.
I really, really appreciatethat.
You're willing to take the timeand set this up and let us
connect like this.
Oh man.
No, thank you.
You giving us a platform to likeconnect and really share things
that we don't even talk aboutbetween each other.
We just know, you know so it'snice and you know, there's more

(01:27:54):
guests to come.
Some, you know, semi famousrappers, some more video people.
And then, you know, I want toreally get the Bitcoin whale in
here.
And he'll talk about morecrypto.
So there's like deeper levelstuff, you know, I can't wait.
It's been fun talking with youand it's exciting.
Who's the crypto.

(01:28:15):
Remember, Brendan Beamish I wastelling you about, it's not
Michael's tailor.
So if you brought him in here,why not?
Why not?
Right.
wishful thinking, thinking,there you go.
And thank you to Tom.

(01:28:37):
Thank you.
So I say for connecting.
Maybe Tom and bringing me onthis podcast.
Tom, I, I, you, you're doing agreat job, you know, connecting
minds and connecting peopletogether, you know, raising the
voice, you know, the pitch isvery important because every
individual has something toshare at the same time.
Things that are there, which aredisconnected, can be kind of get

(01:29:00):
only two whys.
Right.
And that's when we bringtogether.
And then more people, you know,just now, as I was mentioning
about Spotify, you know, onlyit's not the Spotify.
Right.
And you can do it.
Anything you want when.
Things outcome and give aplatform for us to go out and
give the power that everyindividual has the power of

(01:29:22):
raising the wives and which aredoing it, Tom.
So I really appreciate whatyou're doing and then keep it,
keep it going.
I wish you good luck.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, this was awesome.
And then last thing is send mesome links to these projects
that you're working on and I'llput them in a description and
yeah, I'll reach out.
We'll, we'll, we'll stay intouch, but yeah, this will come
out maybe in a, in like a monthfrom now.

(01:29:43):
And I'll help promote anythingthat you want to bring attention
to.
But yeah.
All right.
And lastly, I want to say you'rein Tampa.
So the, the spiritual group,which I was speaking about,
Shishi Shanker, he's coming toMiami on may April 20.
2022, which is like this month.
So you should go and check themout and then you should do an

(01:30:04):
interview with them becausemillions around the world has
done the program.
And he's going to be there forthree days, but on may, first is
going to have a public eventthat is doing thousands of
people are going to cometogether and do a meditation
with him.
But also he's going to speak up.
He's speaking on a conferenceabout anti.

(01:30:25):
So, which is pretty cool.
So you could set that up orwould you be able to be there
for that?
But yeah, if you're going to doan interview and then you can
share, but I can talk to them,you know, because I'm one of the
organizers over there.
So how we can do, do like a liveInstagram, you know, they're
their influencers that arethere.

(01:30:46):
We are, we are trying to get allthe influencers together.
We are also working on gettingcelebrate is together.
We're there to meet TriciaShanker because.
Yeah.
You had shaggy in one of yourgroups, right?
Shaggy.
She called me on the counter andthen he's doing meditation.

(01:31:08):
He is doing meditation.
So you get, yeah, you shouldcome.
You should come.
And then, yeah, I'll definitelysee if I can set up an interview
with there for you.
Okay.
Yeah.
And even if it's, if it's busythat weekend, we could try to
set up an interview just on, onzoom at any point, you know?
But yeah, I'll, I'll check thatout.
I'll try to make it down there.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.

(01:31:28):
Awesome.
Take it easy guys.
It was great meeting you andseeing you inside.
Bye.
Say, bye.
Bye.

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