Regenerative Revolution: How Stem Cells Are Changing Healthcare | Ep 92

Could the most powerful medicine for chronic disease be hidden within our own biology? The answer might surprise you, as we dive deep into the world of regenerative medicine with Dr. Christian Wilson from Palm Beach Stem Cell.

Dr. Wilson's fascinating journey from traditional chiropractic care to cutting-edge stem cell therapy reveals how this revolutionary approach is transforming lives. We hear the remarkable story of a stroke patient told she would need breathing and feeding tubes for life, who now walks and talks normally after treatment. Another patient suffering from Guillain-Barré syndrome found relief from debilitating nerve pain that conventional medicine couldn't touch.

The conversation demystifies stem cell therapy, explaining how these powerful cells double every 28 hours and how their "worker bee" components called exosomes seek out inflammation throughout the body. We explore applications ranging from autism and multiple sclerosis to long COVID recovery and athletic injuries, illustrating why stem cells represent a paradigm shift in medicine - treating root causes rather than managing symptoms.

Beyond the science, we discuss the changing regulatory landscape that's making these treatments more accessible, the ethical sourcing of cells from umbilical cords donated after full-term births, and how this field intersects with optimal lifestyle practices like quality sleep and nutrition.

Whether you're battling a chronic condition, recovering from injury, or simply curious about the future of medicine, this episode offers a glimpse into a world where the body's natural healing abilities can be amplified beyond what was previously thought possible. Ready to rethink what healing looks like? This conversation might just change your perspective on what's possible for your health.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach
and pursue a higher qualitylife with some ambition, then
guess what this podcast is foryou.
This is the Driven AthletePodcast.
What's up?
Y'all?
It's your man, dr Kyle.
Welcome back to the DrivenAthlete Podcast.
We've got a cool guest with us,dr Christian Wilson.
What's going on, guys, dr Chris, from Palm Beach Stem Cell in

(00:20):
North Palm Beach?
I know y'all are busy, so Iappreciate you coming in
Absolutely, but tell everybodywhere you're all at and what
y'all do.
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Dr Kyle for having me on.
It's a pleasure.
So yeah, we're at Palm BeachStem Cell.
We're in North Palm Beach,florida, not too far away from
here, about 20 minutes-ish fromyour office.
So, nice little it's not toobad, nice little.
Nice little, it's not too bad.
Yep, a little easy trip.

(00:49):
Um no, uh, dr Kyle and I.
I reached back.
I reached out to him um I don'tknow a couple of months back,
yeah and um, just cause.
So my background is inchiropractic, um, I practiced
for a little bit and then gotinto the regenerative aspect
side of things, um, and neverlooked back.
Um, so Dr Kyle would, hepractices how I would have
practiced as a chiropractor.
He's very movement based,structural form based, um, um,

(01:11):
kinetic, kinetic chain, basedyour very fundamental skills, um
, the body can't heal withoutmovement and strength.
So him and I have the same samemindset on everything.
So that's why we, we work welland it started to be now we're a
collaboration, so everything'sgoing to go in the right
direction.
But, yeah, we do everythingStem cell therapy, prp therapy,

(01:35):
iv therapy, which I heard youguys had an IV today, so that's
cool, nice.
Then peptides, hr, hormonereplacement therapy, um, some
cosmetic aesthetics, if someonewants, um, uh, I don't even know
if the list goes on Um, like Isaid, a plethora, comprehensive,
yep, yep, um.

(01:57):
Long-term goal for us is tostart get x-ray and MRI in house
, so it's kind of like a five.
That would be huge, yeah, so Ithink that'd be.
That would be awesome.
Yeah, I think that would beawesome, yeah.
And then, so I know for youguys, that'll be big.
I know PTs can't do imaging.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Right, and it's always good to have more
information.
We can see structurally what'sgoing on, yeah, and also to rule
out underlying systemicpathologies.
That isn't within our scope,yeah, systemic pathologies.
That isn't within our scope torule out things like why is
somebody having chronic backpain or chronic neck pain?
Why are they having chronicshoulder pain?
So just ruling out that it'snot something like some kind of

(02:35):
oncology problem ExactlySystemic issue.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, because overuse can be a terror and it's
something that we don't know.
Someone that might just havethat crunch in their shoulder.
It could be more than just youknow, minor crunches.
Right could be follow-up.
Uh treatments can be a goodissue for pt and stem cell.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
So yeah, yeah so you all right.
So you went to um, you went thecairo route, and then you met
ben yep, ben's the owner.
Well, how'd y'all meet?
So how'd you get connected witha?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
very funny story.
So so Ben was building his homeKeep that non-disclosed.
Ben was building his home andhe was in the same apartment
complex as my fiance and I withhis fiance.
So his fiance, brooke, came up,so we went to Busy Body Shout
out, busy Body on North.
Oh, the gym, yeah, yep.
And we went there and workedout there before I hopped into

(03:27):
CrossFit.
So Brooke was working out nextto my fiance and I and then she
just randomly came up to us andwas like, hey, you guys live in
Gables Montecito.
I was like, yeah, we live there, it's so funny.
She's like, yeah, I see youguys walking all the time.
I was like I thought I saw you,blah, blah, blah.

(03:50):
And then she's like I was like,oh, I've seen, I've seen your
boyfriend or fiance, I didn'tknow time around, I'd love to
meet him.
Whatever she's actually like,he does this.
We just get got to talk.
And I was like, wow, that, I'veheard about that a little bit
in chiropractic school, but nottoo too much.
I'd love to chat with them.
And we just got to chatting andwe clicked immediately.
So we thought it'd be, you know, good fit.
And then I met, met him, metthe uh, physician, physician
assistant Will, um, who you metbriefly, and then, um, I'll see

(04:14):
our nurse, so kind of met withall them and you know, it was
kind of just like a good fit andwe thought it'd be smart to,
you know, have a differentmindset on things.
So, ben, he wanted me, wantedto bring me on, and um, never
looked back, I just was had myyear with them August 1st.
So time flew, time flies, wow,yeah, cool, time flies.
And um, no, it's been good.

(04:36):
Um, we're busy this month,we're kicking off strong, so
it's, it's been a good month sofar.
Um, a kind of a neat one.
A patient with Guillain-BarreFor people that don't know,
guillain-barre is very it's likea.
Basically it's like kills thenerves.
If you ever had nerve pain, anytype of neuropathies, it's that

(04:58):
times 10.
And this patient isunfortunately going in extreme
pain and it's very detrimentalto her.
It's very detrimental.
It's affecting the family.
She is a wife and a mother.
So her good days what they toldus is about three days a month

(05:21):
and it was getting worse.
So it was an emergency.
We treated her Monday.
So follow up with her next week, see how she's feeling.
Um, keep, keep moving fromthere.
But it it's fun.
We.
We treat a lot of different, alot of different pathologies, a
lot of different diagnosis umthat you wouldn't see like
Western um western, oh mygoodness why.

(05:44):
Why I draw a blank.
Um western nile, there it is.
Western.
Nile was one um that we talkedabout treating just so random.
Get a call out of there fromnebraska too.
Western is um, it is trans.
Um trans transferred frommosquitoes.
So in nebraska I guess therewas an influx of mosquitoes or

(06:06):
something that carried it in,and now there's an outbreak.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
so, oh my god, so random but I think about that
stuff too.
Like, like, if I'm outside, mykids in the yard, like
mosquitoes are over the place,of course, and I get bit and I'm
like what's the likelihoodthere's not malaria?
Yep, zika virus, west nilevirus, yeah, like, what are?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
the chances oh yeah, it's, it's kind of disgusting
and the likelihood of us gettingbit is so.
I mean, we walk the dogs aroundthe lake and I'm like get bit
five times yeah yeah, it'sannoying the butt, like in my
little baby.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I got an eight month old baby now right.
So like if we're outside withhim and he's, you know, in the
front of a little blanket, we'replaying, whatever, and I'm like
, but he has three bug bites onhis shoulder and I'm like, oh my
God, what's going on in there?
What's going on in there?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I hate it For him he's full of all of the stem
cells that we wish we had.
Yeah, exactly, but yeah, I mean.
So I have some questions foryou, like how did you get into
PT?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
How did I get into pt ?
How did I get a pt?
Yeah, um, good question.
So, like, I was always, youknow, playing sports and athlete
and stuff like that, I had someown injuries.
And then, um, I was, my planwas to be a firefighter.
Okay, I was gonna be afirefighter like gung-ho all in
nice, and I actually wasn'tgonna go to college.
Um, I was just gonna gostraight to fire school, unless
I got a scholarship to playsports or something.
Okay, so fortunately I did.
I got a scholarship, ascholarship to play sports or
something.
Okay, so fortunately I did.
I got a scholarship to playfootball and volleyball, so I

(07:26):
played both.
And then I was still going tobe a firefighter through college
.
And then I always enjoyedanatomy and kinesiology,
biomechanics and how it applieswith athletes and sports and
stuff.
I just thought it wasinteresting.
Anatomy, it's like maybe I'llbe a doc, maybe I'll go to med
school.
I thing, yeah, anatomy, it'slike maybe it'll be a doc, you
know, maybe go to med school.
I was like I don't likepharmacology, like pharmacology

(07:46):
and oh my gosh, it's just not mything.
And chemistry is not my thing,yeah, but I like this other
sciencey kind of thing.
So I was like maybe I'll, Idon't know, but I ended up
majoring in biology, okay.
And then, um, everyone's likewhy are you mentioning biology
when you're gonna be afirefighter, you know?
Yeah, like that seems likeaggressive, but anyway, but I
liked it.
And then, at my senior year incollege, um, I remember talking
to my dad and he was like, hey,you're doing really well in

(08:08):
school.
You know, like you got an a inthis test and this whatever,
like if you considered being apt school.
And I was like, huh, I'll lookinto it.
Yeah, and that was the decisionboom, right there, right there,
I was senior year in college.
So last semester went on on awhim, went all the way, and I
was, from that point forward,just got all my application
stuff together and just doveinto like what the process would
be.
And then, fortunately, the nextyear I got in.

(08:28):
So, anyway, that's why I gotinto pt.
Nice, where'd you go to ptschool?
University, miami, is thatwhere you did undergrad too?
Undergrad, I went to a small d2school in illinois, okay, okay.
University, okay, yeah, it's asmall private catholic school.
Nice.
And, um, yeah, it was a bigculture shock from here.
Oh yeah, I had never seen snowuntil I went to college.
That's because, born and raisedhere, okay, yeah, that's a
crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's a crazy thing, crazy transition.
Yeah, so you never heard of aparka or or toboggan or anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
No, no and uh, yeah, never seen snow.
And like I didn't know what toexpect.
And man I, after my firstwinter, I was like I know, I
want.
I want to live in South Florida, that's where I want to be.
It's the perfect year round.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I can manage the heat , I'm okay with it.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, it's not bad.
I mean it's hot but we're inthe AC most of the time, luckily
, yeah, fortunately.
But yeah, I mean basicallysimilar to me for chiropractic
school.
I mean I played high level icehockey, played semi well, I
guess you kind of say it'ssemi-final.
I played junior A hockey when Iwas 16.

(09:31):
And I tore my groin and thechiropractor I saw rehabbed me
for my tore groin and I was like, oh, I didn't know.
I thought it was just you know,go get manipulated, get the
crack.
And that was it.
And he was like, no, no, it'smuch more than that.
Like we can do this.
And then I was like, oh,interesting.
So thought about PT.
Um, what turned me off?

(09:53):
Pt is the stereotypical PT andlike that's another reason why I
click one of you it literally Iwas never saw.
Like like I saw the realphysical therapist once and then
it was a pta and um, this is,it was for a hip injury,
dislocated my hip playing icehockey and um, so I did pt for

(10:15):
that and it was like I was likein there with geriatrics and
they're like go do this.
And I was like okay.
And I was like, yeah, I'm not,I'm not interested.
There was no motivation at it.
This is in pittsburghpittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yep and um, it's standard, unfortunately.
Yeah, it's a bummer it is, itis.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And I was just like, yeah, this is a run of a mill
and I'm, I'm good, and so thendo I want to work in this?
Yeah, that's 35 years, 40 yearsof my life, yep, it turned me
off and then so tried the went.
I was like, oh, chiropracticwould be sweet, and really
pushed hard on on, likemovement-based chiropractic,
like sports chiropractor, and Ilove that at school and I

(10:56):
practice like that.
So we had to re.
So you go to chiropracticschool and you have a year of
being in clinic and you have twoyears of schooling, a year of
being in clinic and then youhave your residency.
We call it a preceptorship.
After, um, I did mypreceptorship in palm beach
garden at uh performance amongthis chiropractic, with dr matt
delalo, and he practiced sametoo and it's um, I just couldn't

(11:20):
.
I did an internship when I wasin high school with the
chiropractor.
That was just like crankingthem out and I mean they make
great money but it's just not.
Patients are just like in andout within every two days and
I'm like I don't want thatphilosophy.
Yeah, I mean you make moremoney, but I'd rather see
someone once a month if I can.
I mean, obviously at first,when someone comes in with acute

(11:40):
pain, you're going to come back.
Yeah, come back.
Yeah, exactly, um, but thatjust wasn't for me.
But, uh, yeah, so tore my groinand I was like, oh, let's give
this a look.
I majored in biology, minored inbusiness and, um, um, I knew I
wanted to go to palmer, florida,because the chiropractor I did
my internship with in highschool had patients.

(12:01):
So, like he at some of thepatients said, if you go
anywhere other than palmer,people won't see you.
And I noticed that a lot ofpeople wanted, asked like, oh,
did you go to Palmer?
Oh, did you go to Palmer or didyou go to life?
And I was like, okay, so tookthat into consideration and
applied to um, palmer collegechiropractor in Florida, got in
and made some of my best friendsthere and met my fiance there.

(12:22):
Oh, cool.
Yeah, she's a chiro too.
She's a chiro too.
She's a pediatric chiropractorCool.
So she treats babies and sheloves it Cool, that's really
cool.
Yeah, so never turned back.
And then now into this.
So it's funny, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
What shifted recently for you.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
With switching into regenerative medicine.
Just be honestly, it was justum.
I heard about stem cells when Iwas in chiropractic school and
I didn't really like it neverreally got into it much.
It was just like very minor,like oh this is, research is
coming out for this, so you cando stem cells for this.
I was like I don't know, itkind of sounds like voodoo.
And then I saw it firsthandwith Ben and I witnessed it and

(13:06):
some of the things that we wereable to treat um a patient that
we sent you um.
She had multiple tears and andwe treated her and she could,
couldn't work out, could barelyrun the knee, yep.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, she did really good.
Yeah, she was running.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, great, and with , with your help and our help,
it, it she is back to beingnormal and athlete, athletic
again.
So that's amazing, uh, yeah, sohave you heard my sense?
We've talked to her once.
She wants to come back in justfor a touch-up, um, so that's,
that is the nice thing that youcan.
We try to do a one and donetreatment.
But it is nice to kind of, ifyou, if you can, to get some

(13:43):
touch-ups here and there, justbecause, I mean, it only
benefits.
You can never not have enough.
So, um, so we've talked aboutcoming in for doing a touch-up,
but she is busy.
So, um, definitely need toreach out and schedule that and
and kind of have her talk to him, get a testimonial from her,
cause she's a good one for bothof us.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
She was a cool person too, yeah, so you just got more
interested in the regenerativemedicine, yep, and you're like
this is cool, I want to stay inthis.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, and I cause I was like there's no limit to
where this ends, and cause Imean it can treat.
The only thing we don't treatand I don't, I really don't know
exactly the outcome, it couldreally go either way is cancers,
Because I mean, you're talkingregenerative medicine is
regenerating cells, it'sproliferating cells.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
So you're bringing in and regrouping cells.
So I think I go hand in handwith it.
I could bring more cancer cells, but also it helps treat AIDS.
So I don't see why it wouldn'ttake out the bad cells, because
you're you're, we'll get intothis more.
But the exosome stem cell mixis where they finds the

(14:52):
inflammation and targets theinflammation and basically beats
up, beats the inflammation andbringing in new cells, fresh
cells.
So that's where I'm kind oflike yeah, I don't see why it
wouldn't fix it, but it's still,it's it's very new.
It's very like if you go out ofthe country they'll treat it
all day, but it's cancer and Ijust really, yeah, where Panama,

(15:13):
um, like CPI, will do it, bigplaces like that but it's just,
it's a risk.
You just don't, you reallydon't know what's the block here
.
Then just don't know, justdon't have enough research to
say it it'll cure it interesting.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, but they're.
They're doing a lot of inpanama I would.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, I've heard patients getting what kind of
cancer that I don't know.
Leukemia is one that will help,um, but other than that, I
don't know, I don't know.
We had someone reach out aboutbasal cell carcinoma and it's
kind of like like when, when,when was it Like?
How far, how far back did youget it?
If we're two years out andyou're, you're out of it, it's

(15:52):
completely out of your system,then yeah, we could treat you,
but it's but to say basically tosave our butts.
It's just kind of like it'stough to find a doctor in the U?
S that will do that, justbecause of how much liability
there is.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Wow, yeah, well, that'd be really crazy, though
the ability to treat that ohyeah, I mean, it's interesting
Like a basic level of cancerwould be the abnormal
proliferation of cells and alack of apoptosis or apoptosis
or whatever, where stem cellsregenerates cells, fresh cells.

(16:25):
So if it's like I could see myunderstanding with a thought
would be like stem cells near atumor.
Would it just proliferate thetumor.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, that's where it could go back and forth.
We don't know if it'll make thetumor grow or if it's going to
bring in the fresh cells.
Enhance the cells to kill thetumor.
Exactly yeah, Exactly so.
But I mean there has beentreatment with AIDS and reversed
AIDS, so I can.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's crazy too.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's yeah, exactly, and that's where I'm kind of
like, okay, if it'll take downthe CD4 cells and and kill those
toxins, then I don't see whynot.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, it makes sense Like the rationale yeah, we just
need some studying.
Yeah, it needs a little moreresearch.
But from my I mean, it dependson where people are at on this
mindset, but from a cynicalpoint of view it would be like
why isn't this stuff fully dovein and funded and like let's
crush these studies on stemcells, with the applications and

(17:20):
what it's promising?
They'd be amazing forrevolutionizing medicine.
Oh yeah, why aren't a lot ofresearchers and institutions
diving into it?
Diving into it hardcore?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
So you see a lot of like anytime I pull up an
article or like on PubMed oranything like that.
A lot of the research has doneit, like Harvard, um, kind of
those big Ivy league schools,and then some other like small
labs.
It's just the funding is justnot there to do it and I hate to
say it's big pharma once itdoesn't want it Like it that
takes away stem cells, takesaway from Johnson and Johnson

(17:55):
and those big pharma companies,cause we treat a lot of like
long COVID haulers, um, withnebulization, breeding
treatments.
And think about that If we weredoing that with people that had
COVID originally, they probablywouldn't be in the situation
they're in now.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So nebulizing treatment with COVID as an
example.
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
So nebulizer, you're taking stem cells and exosomes,
you're putting in a breathingmachine.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And a vapor.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yep, and you're basically just the steam of it,
the water or the vapor of thestem cells and exosomes.
You're putting in a breathingmachine, so vapor?
Yep, and you're basically justthe steam of it, the water or
the vapor of the stem cells,because you're mixing the stem
cells with bacteria, staticwater, and that allows a water
vapor to come through.
You're breathing it in forabout 30 minutes.
Um, and what?
The exosomes?
saturates your, the inner partof your lungs yep, inner part of

(18:44):
your, your bronchioles, yourlungs, um can.
It's very good for tbis umpeople with tinnitus.
Like it's very good for for uhveterans that have tinnitus and
like they're ringing in theirear.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Um so tbi, traumatic brain injury, just goes straight
to the brain?
Yep, because it can break thewith the oxygen exosomes break
the blood-brain barrier.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Stem cells themselves don't, but that's why exosomes
instead cell combo is sobeneficial wow interesting.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, that's,it's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's why I was like I mean, I've always been super
fascinated by stem cellapplications.
It seems like it's unlimited.
Like stroke, parkinson's,huntington's, multiple sclerosis
, yep, are all those things alsoon the menu?
So yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
multiple sclerosis.
It depends on when you look onthe website, but if you look on
MS, like the National MS Society, one of the cures is stem cell,
and it'll say it straight up.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, one of the cures is stem cell and it'll say
it straight up wow, yeah, so,um, we have treated it, but we
haven't had as many patients asI'd say that we would like in
our office for it, just becauseof how well known it is to do it
.
Um, autism is a big one rightnow.
The um, yeah, just to get intothe autism field.
If you can get it young, if wecan get in there young, um, it's

(20:06):
so beneficial.
We're talking behavioralchanges.
Um, I mean, I, we ben, and Italked to a lady today, um, and
she she took her five-year-olddaughter, got stem cell therapy
done, her done, her daughter's19.
Now she's apraxia, so she'snonverbal and I think her

(20:30):
concept is okay.
I did this to my five-year-olddaughter or whenever she was
five-year-old.
It's time again.
She's very high on the spectrum, so she's going to need more
than one treatment.
We talked today threetreatments.
So basically, our goal is toget her to be verbal and therapy

(20:55):
will be very good with this aswell.
Speech pathology and thenbehavioral therapy, just like it
calms them down.
Something scientific that Ineed to research so I can talk
about it more is it gets inthere and then it calms their
behavior down, lets them kind ofnot have as much ADHD and be

(21:16):
able to kind of like, lets theirbrain cool down so they're not
Not as many triggers, not asmany triggers and stimulation
Interesting, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
And then what about like stroke and Stroke too
Essential nerve?
Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Like CNS.
Yeah, yeah, so we treated apatient with a stroke.
She was experiencing paralysisI can't remember if it was right
or left hand Paralysis in oneof their hands and then her eyes
.
She lost the motor function inher eyes so obviously she was
having nerve issues with that.
So we treated her infusion.

(21:50):
It was a hefty treatment.
She had six treatments.
She also was, I think she hadarthritis in her knees as well.
So arthritis is completelybetter.
We keep up with her veryfrequently.
Her arthritis is completelybetter.
Um, we, we keep up with hervery frequently.
Um, her arthritis is completelybetter.
Her eyes are starting to.
I guess she started to dotherapy with um, one of the

(22:12):
hospitals out here.
So she, her eyes, are startingto become, like I guess,
function normally.
Coming back to square um stillhas a little bit of paralysis in
the hand, but I think that'ssomething that therapy will help
help work that out, but itdefinitely is very promising.
You're talking the square umstill has a little bit of
paralysis in the hand, but Ithink that's something that
therapy will help help work thatout, but it definitely is very
promising.
You're talking reversing motorfunction from her being told

(22:33):
that she was going to be avegetable to being able to walk
and function.
Oh, that's amazing.
Yeah, I hate to say.
I mean she wasn't told she wasgoing to be a vegetable, but she
said they told her breathingtube, feeding tube, everything
and she walks and talks normal.
I mean Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, so with the vapor, the nebulizer, would that
be also help to treat systemicinflammation or other arthritic
changes?
Like does the stem cells getput in your blood system from
the lungs?
Yeah, so then to be dispersedthroughout your whole?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
so regulatory system.
For systemic, we want to do iv,um, so I think best case is iv.
And then, if we're talkingabout for arthritis, um, oa,
osteoporosis, ra, stuff likethat we probably want to do,
depending on where it's at somesite, injections, and we would
do direct injections withmesenchymal stem cells, um, uh,

(23:33):
mesenchymal stem cells come fromthe umbilical cord, the highest
potency we are.
There's research that backsthat, um, and so we would do
exosomes through the system orthrough IV, so systemically, and
then direct, say in the knee,direct injections in the knee,
and what the exosomes do, thosetravel throughout the body, find

(23:53):
the inflammation and then thestem cells are the ones they.
They replicate and double every28 hours.
So every 28 hours.
So you start out with, I don'tknow to say, a number, 300
billion and then they double, so600 billion the next day, and
then after that it'd be 1.2.
A trillion, yeah, a trillion.
So that's where that's crazy,yeah, and that's kind of where

(24:14):
that anti-aging comes, in fact,too, where you see some people
who are just using it as ageneral health and wellness.
They can get their biologicalage checked.
One wellness, um, they can gettheir biological age checked um,
one that does that.
Uh, a famous guy named brianjohnson.
Yeah, johnson, yep, and he had.
That's what he does.
Yeah, it's literally what hedoes.
He gets stem cell therapyinfusions and all the other like
red light therapy.

(24:35):
Yeah, um, his diet I don't knowabout his diet, but locked in
he is, he's dialed, and you'retalking to guy I think he's
ticked back the clock.
What five to eight years, orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, from my understanding, looking at like
biological age progression,where it's like how quickly is
your body aging, right, the goalwould be like one year per year
.
He's brought it down to like0.5.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Per year.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Per year, from my understanding.
Okay, and then there's likethis national scorecard that you
can submit your information,kind of like handicap on PGA
golf.
You know that golf handicap,like a scorecard for aging,
aging, aging, age, or like agingspeed, speed of aging.
And there's some other girl, Idon't know, it might be local,

(25:23):
that I think anyway that she'snot really doing the same stuff
Brian Johnson's doing, but she'slike 0.6.
Wow, what's she doingdifferently?
I don't know, I don't know, butI'm not super well in tune with
all that stuff.
But anyway, my understandingit's like the speed of age and
he's bought it down to half tohalf a year for the year.

(25:49):
That's year and then anyway, soI also listened to a podcast of
him and we researched some stuffon him and stuff and he does
like blood transitions with hisum 17 year old son.
Okay, so he's getting his son'syounger blood?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think so yeah, and I know he does red dye therapy,
uh, so oh, he's hyperbaric stufflike that, yeah yep, um, and
then he, uh, his schedule ispretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It's interesting the things that I've heard him talk
with other people asking him,like anti-aging, what's the
number one thing to start with.
First, like you would justrecommend to somebody he said
lock in your sleep, lock in yoursleep cycles and your sleep
scheduling, and everybody hastheir own most optimal wake when
sleep windows.
So figure that out, he's like.
For him it seems like bed at8.30 and then wake up at 4.30.

(26:25):
Okay, and he exercises an houra day, nothing too intense, but
some strength training andresistance training, some
cardiovascular, and then he eatshis first meal after that and
his last it's what?
Like at six o'clock is hisfirst meal, okay, and then his
last meal is 11 am.
He doesn't eat again until thenext morning at six.
Okay, last meal is 11 am.

(26:46):
He doesn't eat again until thenext morning at six.
Okay, so he eats from 6 am to11 am and then he eats light,
like.
He eats like, yeah, it's likegreens, like greens and, uh,
quinoa, and like berries andnuts at super anti-inflammatory
foods.
That's all he eats.
Yeah, and he keeps it packed inum aluminum tin.
Yep, because plastic?
Because the microplastics, withtupperware as an example.
So why not?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
glass, then too.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, it might not have themoney for the aluminum or
whatever.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I'm not sure, but it might just be.
If you have a glass, thattupperware or glass uh bin, uh
pan, the lid usually is, oh, therubber, yeah, that makes sense.
Whatever, yeah, that makessense.
Whereas, like the aluminum islike the uh, imagine, like a
sardine can, yeah, it's like aclip that goes over the top that
you re-wash and re-okay, thatmakes sense.

(27:32):
I think that's my understanding.
But anyway, he's just likegreens and yeah, some quinoa, it
doesn't look good.
And yeah, and nuts and berries,yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I mean he's super low fat too.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean, he looks like an alien, yeah, like
he looks super healthy.
Anyway, that's a lot.
Yeah, you know, now he's comingout with his own supplement
brand I saw that which is, youknow, entrepreneurially, it
makes sense, yeah, but yeah, hespends like a lot, like what?
2 million a year.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I thought I saw something like that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Because I mean he's a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
He had a tech company prior.
I mean, did you watch his movie, the Don't Die documentary
Parts of it?
Yeah, I mean he shows.
He said he was killing himselflike eating cheeseburgers, just
eating when he could, being ahigh level entrepreneur
Cheeseburgers are good.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, being a high level entrepreneur Cheeseburgers
are good.
Yeah, I like a hefty, thickcheese sometimes, you know they
just open up that wood.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
What's that?
That skinny Louie's down inWest Palm on Mattis?
I haven't been yet, but I hearit's good.
It's good stuff, I hear it'sgood stuff.
But yeah, he was talking aboutlike he would just eat whenever
he could and that's where itleads.
I mean he was overweight.
Um, probably didn't sleep well.
I mean, yeah, sleep.
So I used to have a whoop.
My fiance has the aura ring.

(28:45):
Um, I've been thinking aboutgetting the whoop again, kind of
now just dialing back intofitness and kind of being on
track with everything.
But it's just, I don't knowwhen I had my last week but
didn't calculate correctly.
That's kind of why I stopped it.
But it's definitely interestinglooking at the sleep and seeing
how much you are awake andbeing able to dial it in.
It's like, okay, I had REM foran hour and 40 minutes and

(29:08):
you're like that's it, that's it.
And then you calculate the wholething.
You're like being up, you wereup technically for an hour, so
you only technically got like asix hours of deep sleep and
you're like it's not.
It's not as much as like youactually think.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
So the uh.
I've actually neverinvestigated that in myself, but
right now it's challenging.
We've got three kids and kidsare always up.
I woke up this morning and myson is in the bed with us and I
was like I don't even know, Ithought I was getting kicked.
That's funny, Uh, but it'salways a little bit like off and
on one eye open, you know, yeah.
It's weird, keep your head on aswivel with the heads, and my

(29:44):
wife is.
She's handling the brunt ofthat mostly.
So she's, like man, reallybroken sleep for the last.
I mean since my son was born,you know and late pregnancy is
always tough so it's been ninemonths probably since she's had
a full night's sleep.
Shout out to the wives oh mygosh, like she's a warrior.
Yeah the um.
A couple of nights ago,actually for the first time, our
baby got seven hours in a row,but our other two kids woke up.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You're like come on.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
So and like my wife, like I, usually she lets me
sleep I mean I want mommy andI'm like she's awake anyway and
I'm like I'll help you andthey're like I want mommy.
It's like you can't rationalizewith a three-year-old In the

(30:29):
middle of the night.
You can never rationalize witha three-year-old but in the
middle of the night, screamingand like don't wake up anybody
else, like just please be quiet.
Like I'll get mommy, okay, okay,I'll get her again you know,
yeah again, but anyway, um,she's a warrior, she's getting
broken, sleep like it's not,there's no, bueno, you need a
little like staycation orsomething.
Yeah yeah, yeah, not until thebaby is a little bit older.

(30:49):
How old now?
He's eight months, okay, allright, yeah, he's fresh, we
gotta wait a little bit more,but um, but anyway, I remember
also the brian johnson thing.
He was describing how he hadlike six months in a row, or
eight months in a row, ofperfect sleep.
Wow, think about how that feels, the times that I get a good
night's sleep.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, yeah, like today, we sleep with the dogs in
the bed.
It's bad, whatever.
It's hard not to.
But no, our one dog, he justlike's up and down all night and
he, uh, I mean, yeah, I woke upthis morning and I was like I
don't want to go to the gym.
I don't want to go to the gym.
You force myself to go to thegym and so I'm already dead from
that and I was like it doesn'tcompare to what, like your wife

(31:31):
has, but it's just like you feelit used to it.
Yeah, that too.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's true.
The other night I actually thebaby was crying.
He did not need a nurse at thatpoint, so I was like I'm going
to go in there.
She woke me up.
It was like she had been uplike three times at this point.
It was like 3.30 in the morningbut I had to get up at 4.30 for
my 6 am patient here, yeah.
So I was like well, hopefullythis goes quick, I can get

(32:07):
another 45 minutes before I haveto wake up.
You know, because it takes 15minutes minimum to get the baby
quiet down and then actually laythem in the crib without waking
them up again.
But that was a little rough.
I felt a little tired.
The next day.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I know, you just get used to it, you get used to it.
It's weird, you just get usedto it.
Yeah, that's kind of how I'vebeen.
I mean, I've been kind of goodon.
You know, getting by the time Iget in bed we get the dogs,
everything's situated 11 30 likeI'm asleep and I'm like, okay,
wake up at 6 30, I'm good, likeI'm good, I'm good with that.
But like seven hours, yeah, andI'm like I could probably use
another hour, like if we have aweekend sleep till like 7 30
maybe, and I'm like, okay, Ifeel great, yeah, but something

(32:37):
you get kind of like thatguiltiness.
You're like, ah, I should be up.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, yeah, sleep, yeah, totally.
Yeah, I need to get my.
I found out for myself thehours that are most optimal If I
get, if I can get eight hoursto eight and a half oh, you're
dialed.
I'm pretty solid, yeah, like ifI get more than that, I'm like
a little stiffer and more groggy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's so weird that the more you sleep I don't know
my fiance, she could, she's abear, she could sleep all day
and I'm like I'm like springchicken whenever I'm up, like
I'm not super chat, Like I'm notlike a morning person chipper
Like hey, good morning, so Imade this and this, and then we
had to yeah, that's usually howit goes.
I'm like the coffee's in thefridge.
Brewed it last night.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Just get it to go.
Cup, we're ready to go.
We've got to play in the wholeday.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, that'sup Anyway.
But yeah, I think some of theBrian Johnson he was saying like
sleep is the most importantthing, absolutely.
And then dialing in likeinflammatory foods, that just
looking deep, deep, diving into,like what seems to be
inflammatory for you, which isdifferent for different people,

(33:40):
and then eating.
It seems like the theme I'mgetting a lot from a lot of the
experts locally and then alsolike throughout some influencers
and stuff and information isjust eat less than you need to.
Like I forget what it's calledAncient Japanese culture of like

(34:01):
eat when you're 80 full andthat's it.
Yeah, don't overstuff yourself.
Yeah, all right, do thatconsistently forever.
Right, you get used to it.
Your stomach, like you know,you get used to that which I've
tried to practice.
That not perfect by any meansevery day.
No, but, um, eat light, uh,don't eat heavy.
And then whatever'sinflammatory, try to identify
what that is and rid that ofyour diet.

(34:23):
Dial in your sleep, exercisefrequently throughout the week
and that's like appropriateexercise.
Yeah, you don't have to overdoit you don't have to overdo it,
it's just too much of anythingis always.
Never going to be a good thing,of course.
Imagine marathon training 24hours, 20, 24 hours like 12
months of the year.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
It just adds up.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah I mean I guess your body does kind of get used
to that type of uh type oftraining as, like, say, you're
running 10 miles a day.
Yeah, I mean, if you're, ifyou're used to that, then yeah,
I mean we used to do when I rantrack in college.
I was a sprinter and so I, oh,so, so you're fast, not anymore
Used to be, but yeah, um, but Imean just being able to push

(35:04):
myself to like get my heart rateup to one, 90 for a minute.
I'm fine with that.
Like when I like at the at seadog, I'm like if we have a grunt
one where I'm like, okay, youpush yourself like isabel is a
great one, it's 30 um, 30 powersnatches as fast as you can,
with 135 or 225 depending onwhat weight you do um, like

(35:28):
those workouts I am amazing atbecause I can push myself to get
to like that 190 to 200 likebeats per minute in my heart
rate.
It's a lot, yeah, and that canbring it back down, no problem.
But anything like like any longdistance stuff, I'm like, yeah,
I'm dead, I'm dead, but so itall.
It changed again.
It changes person to person andwhat you need, I mean if you're
fueling yourself right before,before you're running or before

(35:50):
you're doing a workout.
That changes too.
So, yeah, um, but yeah, what?
What are you?
What are you eating right now?
That you've kind of noticed isreally beneficial for you,
because I'm always curious.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
See, I'm the kind of person that I'm totally fine
with eating the same thing allthe time, oh yeah.
And then, of course, I enjoy agood meal, or like an eating,
you know, cheat meal.
I don't want to call it a cheatmeal, just let it go.
Sometimes, yeah, like having acheeseburger, but I usually,
during the week, I grind, I justkeep it locked in.

(36:26):
I'll have three eggs in themorning Try to go to organic
eggs, costco, the brown onesWith a little bit of cheese and
then either a half a bagel or ahalf a tortilla, and then a
handful of spinach and a coffee.
And, and then a handful ofspinach, okay, and a coffee, yep
, and some more OJ, all right.
And then for lunch I havefrozen green beans or broccoli

(36:47):
with whatever we had for dinnerand it's usually the meat
rotation.
We do is chicken, ground turkey, occasionally like pork, but
it's usually chicken or groundturkey fish, fish and we had
fish earlier this week um.
And then for the carb we'll dolike um, either a tortilla,

(37:08):
again.
I'm like, yeah, I'm usually.
I'm usually like I have 12minutes to eat lunch.
Yeah, because I was banging outa bunch of stuff and I got a
patient coming, I was like shoot, I need lunch yeah, tortilla
makes it easy, you can throw,you just wrap it up and then eat
it.
I'm like good, all right, andthen a Greek yogurt with raw
walnuts and then an apple.
Okay, and that's my lunch.
That's good Pretty much everyday.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
And then for dinner it whatever chicken fish, ground
turkey, occasionally steak, butthat's actually really rare.
Also, too, we're grinding rightnow.
We don't have time to doanything.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
No for sure.
Attending to the kids andtrying to cook a meal is not
ideal, right.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
And also I want to be purposeful with my time.
I want to spend time with mykids.
I don't want to when I get home.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Sit at the grill or whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, or cook, know, and usually my wife older when
they're older and they can cookwith us yeah but right now it's
like, I mean, we're managingthree-year-olds and
five-year-old and, uh, I needattention, baby.
Yeah, and I want to play withthem, you know yeah, exactly so
my wife, at that point I gethome, usually she's like, please
take them and I'll cook.
And I'm like, perfect, I'lltake the kids.
I haven't seen them all day.
You can have time by yourselfand cook, yeah.
And then, uh, everybody's happyand everyone's happy.

(38:15):
And then my problem usuallywould be like at the end of the
night, snacking.
Kids finally are in bed and Iusually have.
This is my routine.
I usually have a LaCroix andI'll either have chips and salsa
that sounds good A chip and adip of some sort.
Yeah, you know, like a spinachdip or like a corn salsa or
something like that.
Or you know, I've really gotteninto recently is Doritos All

(38:37):
right.
Really gotten into recently isdoritos all right with a little
sauce cheddar, no, just straightcheddar doritos.
Those things are good, man, Idon't care what anybody says.
Uh, that and or like a bowl.
I also enjoy a crisp, cool bowlof cereal.
What cereal?
So there's this organic pumpkinseed granola cereal at costco.
That's probably my favorite oneokay I'll think of a try if I,

(38:58):
if I splurge, which is not thatoften it'll be like Cinnamon
Toast Crunch.
Oh yeah, it's a good one.
It's probably my favorite one,but I like.
My favorite.
That was that pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
So it's like you don't feel too bad about it.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
No, and I'll have it with almond milk.
I like almond milk, yeah, it'shealthy.
So I have a hefty bowl of thatand if I leave the box out with
me, I'll have a second bowl.
You know like I should put thisaway, but I just have a little
bit more.
Yeah, with LaCroix, I don'tknow.
That usually hits a good spotand then I go to bed.
That's usually my eating, andthen on the weekends lunch is

(39:32):
usually similar.
Breakfast is the same every day.
Usually dinner is where, if Ilike pizza or like burgers or,
uh, if we eat out or somethinglike that, which is also kind of
rare, but if I would say pizza,you know also costco lunch is
also a good one like kids have ahot dog, little dog little soda
.
Yeah, have a soda.
I don't have soda often, butwhen I do, I'm like gosh, this

(39:54):
is good man.
Yeah, it's crispy and it'scarbonate sprite.
Yeah, I'm a coke guy okay,you're a big coke guy, or
mountain dew, oh god.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Or fountain orange, oh yeah, yeah, like a orange
soda yeah, the mountain dew iswhere I'm like because I've had
kidney stones and it scares me.
Mountain dew is, like, known togive kidney stones, is it?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
really, yeah, dang it .
Yeah, when I was a kid that weused to have, um, do you
remember the soda Surge?
No, okay, there's this sodacalled Surge and it was like
Mountain Dew, okay, and that wasthe jam, okay, oh man, I used
to love Surge, throw them back.
I was like, imagine a kiddrinking a big old can of soda
called Surge.
Yeah, you're wired, w wired itwas.

(40:40):
It was kind of like mountaindew, but it was.
It was phenomenal.
That's funny, but anyway, sothat that's what I eat.
Yeah, all right, then first,like when I for workout, I try
to work out.
Four days a week is my goal.
I try to get three in, usuallytry to get four, um, and I'll
have like a protein afterwards,a protein shake with like frozen
fruit or something, and then um, creatine okay, are you doing
creatine daily?
creatineine daily?
Yeah, five to eight grams, okay, depending if I work out or not

(41:01):
, and then I try to.
I've also, on and off, doingturmeric with black pepper.
Okay, I just got a turmericextract from online, you know,
and then black pepper extractand I'll mix them together.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Are you noticing the black pepper?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
What are you noticing from the black pepper?
Or like, what's your goal withthe bike?
Yeah, it's so.
It's been found to enhance theabsorption of turmeric.
Okay, when black pepper ispresent by like 90.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
You notice there's a lot of like black pepper
extracts and say fat burners andstuff like that oh, really okay
, I haven't really noticed.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Um, I took a hiatus partly because I was a little
scared.
So, like turmeric I'm sureyou're familiar it stains
everything, which, like it makessense, like the capsules that
you buy from the store orwhatever, like way more sense
and they're way easier to manage.
But it is expensive and I'mlike I don't want to eat the
capsule, I just want theturmeric.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I just want the powder.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
So I'm like I'm gonna get that the extract powder and
I'll just be really careful.
I'll just eat it dry and thensip of water with it.
Um, not the best taste.
I don't really taste likeanything.
Okay, okay, it doesn't tastelike anything, but extract
powder, if you're familiar, likeit's super fine and it's kind
of like cinnamon.
If you ever put cinnamon inlike a liquid, it doesn't.
It doesn't, it doesn't getabsorbed.
Okay, it just floats.
Okay, so the two, you can't mixit in water, so you just gotta
take it straight.
You take it straight, so it'ssuper dry and then you have to
drink water with it.
All right, um, but it stainseverything.

(42:26):
And with it being such a finepowder, if it like plumes when
you open the bag, yeah it'sgetting something.
If you accidentally miss andlike a little bit drips, like
the powder falls a little bit onthe way to your mouth, like I'm
like leaning over the sink, itstains everything.
So, accidentally, what happenedone morning?
I didn't realize it, like Ijust spooned it in dry drinking

(42:47):
some water.
I got it down make sure therewas none of my fingertips,
because it takes forever.
It just gets in your fingersand it doesn't go away and
everything you touch from thatpoint forward would be an orange
stain everywhere, a trail.
So I accidentally spilled someon the ground Like a tiny bit
and I stepped in it.
I didn't realize it.
I'm finishing up in the morning.
It's six o'clock in the morning, everyone's asleep.

(43:08):
And I went to the bathroom,came back to the kitchen and
there was orange all over thefloor, oh my God.
And I was like with footprintsand I'm like, oh my gosh, what
the heck did I just do?
And I looked at my socks and itwas like a fine little film of
powder on my socks.
It was a tiny amount, it justspreads everywhere and it's so
fine.
And I was like I'm effed.

(43:28):
I'm like, oh my gosh.
Luckily my wife just woke upearly with the baby because I
had to leave.
No one was awake and I was likeI have to go, I'm so sorry.
I just sprayed, like I just um,I owe you, I owe you so much,
but like I just filteredturmeric powder all over the
floor.
I didn't realize this and she,anyway, she cleaned it up for me

(43:51):
.
It kind of pretty easy actually.
Like she got, like it usuallydoes not, like if you get on
your countertop it takes alittle bit it smeared and it it
buries in to the countertop ohmy smears.
and it buries into thecountertop oh my God.
It is the worst.
You can't touch anything withit.
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Maybe because it was a light layer, you got lucky.
Maybe Did you have socks on Idid.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Okay, that probably helped.
So I took the socks.
I think I threw the socks away.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, that's done.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I'm not going to put it in the laundry.
Yeah, so I threw those away and, uh, it was on our um
engineered hardwood floor, so itcame up somewhat easily,
apparently nice, I was sincelocked out.
Yeah, I looked out, man, I waslike, but anyway.
So since then I'm like I haveto be super careful.
Yeah, but anyway.
So, um, that's what.
So some of the ones I'd taketurmeric black pepper for the
absorption, and then, um,creatine and whey protein with
frozen fruit.
Perfect, that's my schedule.
Perfect, what about you?
What's your schedule?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
so right now I'm kind of.
We've been doing these likechicken ball things from sprouts
.
Um, I do because I wake up Iembedded it, but I try to get
some water in first thing.
Um, that's one thing I need toget better at.
Yeah, it's, it's tough firstthing in the morning, I don't
know, it's the last thing on mymind.
I'm'm not that thirsty, so, butyeah, definitely need to get
better, cause a little bitbefore I was doing water in an

(45:03):
element packet and downing a 12ounce glass of that and I felt
great.
So I need to get back to that.
And, um, so what I'mrealistically doing consistently
is either six of those that'sone serving, six of those
chicken balls are like littleprotein chicken balls.
They have cheese or somethingin them, so it has like a little
bit of everything.
If I don't do that, then threeeggs and then I'll do some sort

(45:27):
of carb.
What kind of carb?
Like a bagel, either a bagel, Ilike a bagel.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I'm a bagel guy.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Crisp toasted bagel With a little smear of cream
cheese, yeah, something, andlike, if I don't, if I don't do
those today, we didn't haveeither, and I didn't feel like
cooking eggs, and so I had, um,a toasted bagel with peanut
butter, um, not sprouts, brandnatural peanut butter, and then
raw honey on it.
Hit spot, hit the spot, yeah,but if I don do that, then I'll

(45:58):
do beet powder, um, for like avasodilator and cause it has
some carbs in it, and then, um,I've never heard that out to,
I'll just send you some stuff.
It's a game changer, cool, sowe'll come back to that Um, but,
um, no, we can dive into it.
So beet powder is likebasically a vasodilator.

(46:20):
Um, opens up all the veins.
Um, I was using it when I usedto just train like bodybuilder
style.
I was using it as for pump, um,just to get a pump.
And then I was telling one ofmy professors at chiropractic
school about it, and so he triedit, and then he was like, huh,
this would be good, you know, Ithink, for blood pressure.
Then he was like, huh, thiswould be good, you know, I think
, for blood pressure.
So I was like, yeah, so healready knew his blood pressure

(46:42):
before and it was, it was, itwas high, he, he had
hypertension and I think it waslike I don't know, 160 over 90
or something, so not like crazyskyrocket.
It's elevated, yeah, it'selevated.
He was a bigger guy.
Um, he said, took the beepowder immediately 110 over 72.
Immediately, yeah, so it's agood.

(47:04):
It just opens it up and getseverything flowing.
So scoop it out a day is good.
It's not like there's otherthings you could do.
Like Brian Johnson takes like2.5 milligrams Cialis daily.
I've heard that.
Yeah, yeah, and that's good.
It's another vasodilator.
Um, it doesn't have to be usedfor a right dial dysfunction or
anything like that.
It can just be used as avasodilator.

(47:26):
Um, it's funny.
But yeah, yeah, especially likeat the corporate office.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, it's like oh, excuse me guys.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
All these guys are taking yeah, so what's in the
water here?
Yeah, no, literally, but no, Imean, it's a, it's a good it's,
it works fine too.
But bee powder is cheap.
I think you can get it onamazon like a pound bag for 30
bucks.
You take a scoop of it and um,uh, so you mix that with some
water or some pre-workoutwhatever.
But yeah, so, um, three eggswith some sort of carb bagel
toast or something like that.
Or six of the chicken ballswith four shots of espresso.

(48:02):
Four shots, I'm cracked.
Wow, yeah, I'm cracked.
It's aggressive.
Yeah, and it's still.
I'm a fiend, I'm a fiend.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I'm a coffee guy, yeah, I mean I have probably two
and a half cups a morning.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, probably two cups yeah, so that probably
probably evens out.
It probably evens out because Iguess black coffee a cup is
around 50 to 80 milligramscaffeine I don't know exactly
how many is in four shots, but Iwould say I feel similar if I
did both.
Um, so I do one of those.
Go to the gym, slug my 36 ounceyeti of water, um, do whatever

(48:38):
workout it is.
So I do an hour workout with astrength portion and then um a
hit.
Basically, yeah, um, after thatI'll try to.
I should eat, but after that Ido electrolytes.
Um an element packet or I havea relight like jar.
I'll do a scoop or two ofelectrolytes in there, um, with

(49:00):
a scoop.
So five milligrams creatine,because we do a lot of red meat,
so creatines and red meat too,so I don't necessarily need.
Yeah, exactly, um, then I'lleat lunch whatever basically we
had before, and if I don't haveanything it's usually chipotle.
I'll order chipotle and it'snot sorry, it's healthy.
And then, uh, yeah, chipotleorder is white rice, double

(49:23):
chicken, um, corn, the light,light, light sour cream and
cheese.
The cheese is so good.
And then, um, yeah, so it's not, it's not terrible, but I mean
it's probably like a 2000calorie meal.
Yeah yeah but if I don't do thatthen it's usually like a beef
broccoli and rice daily, or likea chicken broccoli and rice um

(49:44):
uh, big on the ground chicken.
Try ground Turkey for a hotminute and I lost.
I lost a lot of.
I wasn't like I don't have aton of body fat, but the body
fat I had.
I lost a good bit, but it gotso boring it's, it is.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, he's got.
We pushed through.
Play with.
We play with the seasonings,taco seasoning or whatever game
changer.
Put them into burgers.
Put some cheese on it like acheeseburger.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh yeah, but um yeah yeah, if you don't do that, it
can get very boring.
Yeah, it does.
Then dinner we we're kind oflike you.
My fiance doesn't like fish, sounfortunately, not as much fish
in the house.
I like fish, I love fish.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I like fish.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, salmon mahi, a little bit of grouper, any of it
, I'm good.
Tuna steaks are one of thehighest protein things you can
get.
So if she goes away, if she hasa little trip with the girls or
with her parents or whatever,then I'll get some tuna steaks.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
So you wouldn't have like a each have your own meal
for dinner, like, eat meal, eatdinner together, but you would
have your own thing.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
No, I won't, so what is the smell.
She doesn't like she doesn'tlike.
So I won't do fish if she'shome.
It's like she doesn't care, butI just because it's not
convenient to cook two separatethings.
So if she's there we'll do likeeither chicken ground meat or
ground chicken or steak.
Um, I'm kind of with you.
Steak was happening for a likeit was happening a lot a while

(51:01):
back, but we kind of just dialedback, um but yeah, and then I
really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I see I better I.
I enjoy a good thick, like goodcrispy steak.
Yeah, yeah, nothing better thanit's a good one.
You sink your teeth into that.
Yeah, no, I'm hungry yeah, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Someone gets steaks, um, but yeah, and then, um, yeah
, I'm a big snack guy, like fora while I was doing apples and
peanut butter and but I wasputting a ton of peanut butter
like that's all right, I'mtalking like, like how I was
telling people it's like abanana length size of peanut
butter, like this much one apple, so it's probably like it was a
good amount I don't.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
What are your thoughts on peanut butter like?
In what sense it has good likeof nutritionals?
Okay, I think it's healthy fatsyeah, right, it's a healthy
fats.
Yeah, it's polyunsaturated,monounsaturated fat, just
exactly.
I mean I would imagine there'soils in it that come with it.
We get the organic one from thekirkland.
Yeah, that's fine, osco.
So a little bit, you know, wewould hope to be a little bit

(52:01):
better, better in that sense ofthe additives or oils and
whatever.
But, um, I never, really Idon't consider that to be like a
sweet treat or something.
Yeah, yeah, no, I.
What is good that I do that isI have you know, like one of my
favorite things for treat islike um, dark chocolate, just
chocolate chips, just purechocolate chips.

(52:21):
Grab a handful, just handful,that in with peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Honestly, dark chocolate has a lot of health
benefits.
That's what I've heard.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
So I'll take a spoon of peanutbutter and I'll just tap it Like
a Reese's cup In a bowl of justopen chocolate chips, stick to
it and sticks to it, and justeat it like a popsicle and like
you know, just I'll do a couplerounds of that in a couple
rounds, yeah like seven, eightrounds, maybe five yeah that's
not that bad, all right rightwell, I mean the, the dark

(52:48):
chocolate has a lot of healthbenefits.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Um, they talk a lot of cardiovascular health, it's
like.
It's like, basically, if youhad like a glass of red wine a
day, they tell you that has,that has health benefits too.
So I don't know, it's tough tosay yeah, I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna knock on itbecause I mean I do it whatever.
Yeah, it is, it is.
I don't do dark chocolate, I dothe regular milk, so yours is
probably better than mine Ithink ours is dark chocolate.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I don't know, it's just chocolate chips.
Yeah, I think they're the dark,I don't know, but I like dark
chocolate chocolate, yeah, okay,yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
So it's like a yeah, same thing.
It's like red wine you like itor you hate it, yeah, so, but
yeah, no, I do either that.
I'm kind of off that nowbecause I'm on a cut, but right
now I'm honestly just firing offon a protein shake.
I'll do two scoops of organicwh and then a banana and um
scoop of like pb fit, okay, yeah, and so I mean it's a decent

(53:41):
amount of calories.
I mean I'll mix it with vitamind milk, because I can't get
past the water and proteinshakes, and then, um, I'll just
I'll brew that up and then I'llpour it over some ice, so it's
cold, and sip on that before bed, and I'm good, so I have, I
have a hack that I like to do isthat I use, just like, a frozen
bag of fruit from an organicbag of fruit and that's the ice.

(54:03):
Yeah, yep, do you do that, I'vedone that.
So if I do, if I just do astrawberry banana protein shake,
then, yes, if I remembered likesay, our bananas are starting
to go bad, I'll throw them inthe freezer, perfect yeah.
And then that'll usually be theice.
Yeah, exactly, and that's theice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
So it makes it a little more creamy too.
It does.
Yeah, and what I also do isI'll put like I have frozen
broccoli, okay, and I'll justput like one, you know, it's
because they're big flour.
Yeah so you know, I'll put onein with my shake.
Okay, that's one broccolifloret, two scoops of protein.

(54:43):
Um, I usually just hit thecreatine dry.
I just put it in dry, okay, uh,because it's such a small and
it's so fine.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, it's so fine, it's not a big deal, yeah um,
and then it'll be cold.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You know it'll be cold, it'll be thick and it'll
be good.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I'm like got it in yeah, and it's almost like a
dessert.
Yeah, it tastes good, yeah it'ssmoothie.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I like, I like, I like frozen bananas in mine um
in my smoothies.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Are you a big acai bowl guy?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I like acai bowls.
Yeah, I don't have them often,but I like them.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
It's like my fountain .
I look forward to it.
Weekly we go to this placecalled Golden Juicery and it's
in St Plaza's, crossfit Sea Dog.
Oh, I know what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, they put crack in there orsomething.
I don't know.
I'm addicted.
I'm addicted, but no, I mean,it's like what's your secret
recipe?
Yeah, they're acai, it's likesorbet.
So then when you have a littlebit of it and we'll do it at the

(55:28):
beach and I just like notice, Isit there and I'm like, oh,
like my, my legs were startingto get real vascular.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
And then all the veins.
I'm looking vascular.
I'm like, oh hope some bigbodybuilder walks by, I'm going
to show them off Like do youwork?
Out.
Thanks, man, I appreciate that.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, noticethe veins.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Awesome, thank you.
Yeah, thanks, but it's so funny.
But yeah, a little tangentright there, yeah, exactly, but
that's all right you know?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Yeah, oh, okay, we do it.
Let's a couple minutes, we'llland the plane.
But I wanted to ask othercomponents of the stem cell
stuff that's y'all's bread andbutter, mm-hmm.
The different types of stemcells?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
So you have mesenchymal, so I wrote it down
just because I knew it wascoming.
Yeah, so mesenchymal is what weuse.
Mesenchymal comes from theumbilical cord.
Specifically, umbilical cordblood is the highest potency Our
stem cells are.
So we don't harvest themourselves.
We have a company that wesource them from.

(56:29):
We're from I'm sorry we're from, I'm sorry we're from.
They're like.
The company is PlatinumBiologics out of Orlando.
I think they're out of Texas,but they have a branch in
Orlando.
Yes, exactly, the owner is asuper cool guy.
Beben Russell, I believe, ishis last name.
I think it's Russell.
Super cool guy, young guy, justreal, kind of like how we are.

(56:52):
Just like, typical medicineisn't his thing, um, and got
into this and and just, they'rea wealth of knowledge over there
and, um, if you ever get achance to talk to their medical
director, um, dr Scott Martin,um, he's genius, uh, just, his
wealth of knowledge is and it'sendless Um, but anyways, so,

(57:14):
yeah, they, they get theirsourced um from full, full
cesarean section births, um, andthese mothers are donating the
umbilical cords, uh, and they gothrough about five, seven pages
of testing to make sure thatthere there diseases or any
infections or anything like that.
Non-vaccinated mothers too.
So that's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Non-vaccinated COVID vaccine All, no vaccines at all,
no vaccines at all.
Wow, yeah, so there's that manypeople.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Oh yeah, these are usually Mormon mothers.
For the most part they'reMormon, yeah, interesting, yep,
yep, and so I mean that's kindof.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
That's such an interesting, it's such a
controversial topic it really is, which I feel like it doesn't
have to be, nope, but likethere's so many things that I
just don't know what to believebehind vaccines.
Yeah, I mean I've had otherpractitioners on here that I

(58:11):
mean I don't disagree with themthat vaccines save lives, as an
example, like polio,tuberculosis.
Yeah, I mean there's some greatthings.
You know what I mean.
But then again I'm like why isit?
There just seems to be a lot.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, my thing especially with COVID.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I mean, it's such that I think that's the main
reason it's so controversial,which I'm okay with.
Like we're allowed to askquestions, yeah, and be
skeptical yeah, I thinkeverybody should ask questions.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You should always know whoever you're talking to,
whether it's us, um, whetherit's you know, your, your
medical doctor, your pcp orwhatever.
Ask questions if.
If they don't, the worst thingthat they should say is you know
what, I don't know.
I can get back to that for you.
If they don't want to give youan answer or they just knock on
the other person, it's not thedoctor for you.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Or like just don't worry about it, just take it.
Yeah, exactly, just trust me.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, if you hear, just trust me from your medical
professional, find a new doctor.
But um, um, yeah.
So I mean, I think covid wasone of the ones that basically
made all this like socontroversial.
Um, just because now, from whatI heard, they're pushing these
on new, uh, newborn babies.

(59:26):
What the covid?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
vaccine I so I had just saw the current
administration saying like the,that they're.
They made it illegal, they madeit, they took it off the
vaccine schedule and it's notmandatory it's not approved.
It's like not approved forpregnant women and babies.
Good, that's my understanding.
Yeah, anyway, it'scontroversial, to say the least.

(59:49):
Yeah, absolutely, and we don'thave to go deep into it.
But but but anyway, it'scontroversial to say the least.
Yeah, absolutely, and we don'thave to go into that at all.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, we don't have to go deep into it.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
But anyway.
But I think it's appropriatethat part of what would make the
United States a great place isthat you can at least ask
questions and be skeptical andwant some answers and maybe even
have a conflicting opinion onone direction or the other.
Like no, I think vaccines arereally great.
They can be, but are theyoverused, like who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I just don't know.
There's just so muchinformation, I don't know what
to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
It is tough, and I mean there'sa lot of misinformation too,
it's-.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Right, exactly, all right.
So, with this, though, localcourts none of them are any kind
of vaccine, so they come fromMormon population.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Usually, for the most part, I would say the majority
of these people are coming fromthe Mormon population, just
because I guess from myunderstanding they yeah, they
don't believe in that.
That's my understanding too Alot of people that are getting.
So the Amish community is a bigstem cell advocate because they
don't do regular medicine.

(01:00:52):
Um, so like Lancaster, pa, is alike a hot spot for stem cell
therapy, it's so.
I mean you never.
I mean they always wondered, Iguess, like from me being from
Pittsburgh, I mean I kind of notclose to the Amish, but close
enough, like where do they go?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
like how far were they?
Probably Probably two hours.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, not far.
So you always wonder, like, why, like they don't go to the
doctors?
Like, what do they do?
Are they just like Chinesemedicine?
Because a lot of people do thattoo and that's great too.
But it's like, what do they do?
And then I find out that stem,um, stem cell therapy is huge

(01:01:34):
out there.
Interesting, it's huge, but uh,yeah.
So other ones are umhematopoietic stem cells.
Uh, they come from the bonemarrow, peripheral blood and um
also the umbilical cord.
But um, the bone marrowtransplants are very, very I
don't want to say painful, butinvasive.
Think about that.
You're taking a 16 gauge needle, probably the size of the hole
of this pen, and digging intothe bone.

(01:01:57):
That doesn't sound fun to me.
And then embryonic coming from.
This is why stem cell therapyis controversial.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Is the embryo.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yep, so that're coming from embryos.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
That's one type, Yep, that's one type when the
umbilical donation that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
That shouldn't be controversial At all In my
opinion, but a lot of peopledon't know that though.
Yeah, that's a lot of people,so that's where you're talking.
I mean some people that talknegatively of stem cell.
They're saying they're killingbabies.
Yeah, right, and it's not thecase at all.
Yeah yeah, platinum is gettingits full-term births.
These children are not affectedat all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
And they discard that stuff.
Yeah, that's discarding.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
You know what they're doing to it.
The hospital is selling it toanother stem cell clinic
probably.
I mean that would be my guess.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, exactly, amniotic fluiduh is another one, the placenta
um, amniotic fluid.
Um, so some some people you seethis with, like kim kardashian,

(01:03:01):
some like high level uminfluencers kind of, were eating
placentas.
Uh, that, yeah, I think thatphase kind of died out.
I hope so.
Yeah, not, not the most thing,maybe a better way to do it?
Yeah, exactly, come see us.
But no, um, that that's rich ofstem cells.
I mean, I mean, I get whatthere's, I get the concept, but
it's just you're talking that'sthe waste of the baby, that's

(01:03:26):
where the baby's going to thebathroom, that's where all the
toxins are going in theantibiotic fluid.
So that's not something youwant to kind of eat.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Without filtering out .

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, I mean they talk about doing capsule, like
capsulation of the placenta andstuff like that.
My fiance kind of was diggingdeep into that just because of
um, she's had a couple ofpatients that have done it, um,
and they noticed that itaffected their hormones and then
they would have like postpartumdepression.
So it made me think I was like,huh, let me look into that.

(01:03:58):
So I looked and then it it doesit.
They talk about how it affectshormones, causes postpartum
depression, whenever it says itshould, um, help postpartum
depression.
Um, there's side effects togoing that route whenever you
can have healthier ways to do it.
And then, lastly, would beexosomes.
So exosomes are thenanoparticles of stem cells.

(01:04:21):
They're the vesicles that carrythe proteins, the RNA, and
allow the repair andregeneration and
anti-inflammatory response tohappen.
Interesting.
So how we talk about it at ouroffice is kind of they're like
the worker bees of the stemcells.
They can run throughout thebody and they're smart enough to

(01:04:42):
find information, to pick andchoose.
Yeah, so it's like thestrongest NSAID you could ever
take.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Interesting.
So those are exosomes.
So where do the exosomesharvest it from?

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
They come from the stem cells.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
From what stem cell source?
The mesenchymal?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Mesenchymal Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Mesenchymal so what's the approval, the regulations
of stem cells right now in theUnited States.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
So Florida passed the bill and made it fully legal.
Ron governor ron desantis umpassed it to make stem cells
fully legal.
Um, stem cells in the unitedstates are fda allowed.
They're not fda approved.
That doesn't make them illegal.
You can still get it done.
It's just you can't.

(01:05:25):
No, now in florida you can dowhatever.
But I mean I shouldn't say dowhatever you can.
So before we had to promotesymptoms like retreated symptoms
.
We treated knee pain, wetreated back pain, we treated,
you know, behavioral issues withautism.
We treated people with tremors,with Parkinson's.

(01:05:46):
Now we can say, hey, we treatParkinson's, hey, we, we treat
MS, we treat autism, we treat RA, oa, um osteoporosis et cetera,
like down the line.
Um, now we're allowed to talkand promote that on our
platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Interesting, so you can advertise.
You're doing that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
That's what the bill helped us Um.
Now other States I'm not ahundred percent sure um where
they're at with that.
So that's where that FDA allowlike um.
Fda allowed is like you canpromote, that you can treat
symptoms.
Yeah, got it Um, but now it'sreally your diagnoses?

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yep, yep.
So the question, so I guess thethought would be like to treat
Parkinson's versus treating kneepain.
The only difference is it's thesame mesenchymal stem cells.
It's just maybe the location ofinjection so, or the form of of
it getting into your body.
Yeah, so that's versus iv,versus an injection yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
So I guess where you can go into mesenchymal stencils
you have, like your, your.
There's different uses for stemcells.
So, say, there's one for thenebulization that has, um,
that's kind of like a, a powderthat you mix with bacteriostatic
water.
It's not as not as potent as,say, one that you can do

(01:07:01):
intravenously.
Um, then there is topical usesfor, say, people that do facials
or hair treatment.
Like, after you get your hairtransplant, you have to do stem
cell in your hair.
Um, there's levels to that aswell, where it's also it's like
kind of a different, like alower amount of stem cells, like
it's still, it's so great,you're still getting a great

(01:07:23):
product, you're still gettinglike grade a.
Like, say, if you put it on agrade a like you're not getting
taco bell, you're getting soruth chris so you're getting
chipotle?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
yeah, not taco yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
then it's like you go , yeah, exactly, if you want to
put it in that set, but it'slike um, then you go where it's
like okay, we do interveniously.
Um, you're talking a high levelof stem cells, but you, it
won't have any tissue product init.
Where the tissue product theWharton's jelly have you ever
heard of that term?
That's in the umbilical cord.
Wharton's jelly is somethingthat's in the umbilical cord,

(01:07:58):
it's kind of like the red bloodcells in the umbilical cord and
that allows, it's the aligningin the umbilical cord that holds
the red blood cells.
Um, that you would inject.
With the people, with thepatients that have, like, oh, a,
um, osteoporosis or some, maybea tear, for, like the patient

(01:08:20):
that we referred to you, um, shereceived a Wharton's jelly
product, just because thatpromotes regeneration for tears
and allows and allows tissuerepair.
Now for the other ones, itallows for decrease of
inflammation and brings in newcells.
So there's different productsfor different things and how we

(01:08:42):
kind of do it is we kind of liketo do exosome infusion, exosome
infusion, how what we'venoticed works, exosome infusion
with the non-tissue product, um,non-tissue stem cell product,
so both of those intravenously,and then say we're treating a
patient with uh, acl tear andthen we would go in and inject

(01:09:04):
the wharton's jelly product inthe knee and that's where we've
noticed like kind of like oneand done, you're good, do
therapy.
Come to athlete restoration seedr kyle and then, uh, like
you're out of our hands fromthere and um, you're good to go
to touch up if you need it, butmost likely you'll be good.
Um, now people like parkinson'sthat is going to be strictly iv

(01:09:28):
and nebulization.
The nebulization combo with theIV is just potent because it's
basically a double whammythroughout the venous system and
throughout the brain.
Yeah, and obviously Parkinson'saffects the brain, so it makes
sense.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Interesting.
That's awesome.
Thanks for breaking that down.
Yeah, we'll have to get you inagain and, uh, dive more into to
more of these things, but nexttime we'll get will, get will in
here and he can break down thescience and everything of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Yeah, and um will is our pa, so he can break down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
He's been doing regenerative medicine for almost
a decade now, so, yeah, he canuh, he can break it down it was
a good overview introductionlike what this, like a whole
comprehensive overview of whatwhat that stuff kind of is.
Yeah, absolutely, um, remindeverybody where they can.
If they had questions, I'mgonna reach out to you guys.
What's the best way to reachyou?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
yeah, guys, if you want to reach out, you can
either reach out to me.
Uh, 561-650-4183 is my um workcell phone number.
Um, you can text call or youcan email me at
christianpbstemcell or you canemail info at pbstemcell,
pbstemcellcom and our Instagramis palmbeachstemcell.
So any of those places reachout.

(01:10:41):
I'd be happy to answer anyquestions you have and be able
to get you going in the rightdirection.
And then you know we can dowork with us, work with Dr Kyle,
to get you going in the rightdirection.
And then you know we can dowork with us, work with dr kyle,
get you going, get you goingback to where you need to be no,
good, good, awesome man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Well, thanks again for coming in.
Absolutely thank you and, uh,don't hesitate to reach out if
you have any questions oranything, and um, and we'll
catch y'all next time all right,thanks guys.