July 7, 2025 • 49 mins
On this episode we talk about the HUGE increase in Toyota thefts and why your car could be next. We also get more details on the Mercedes-Benz that Gordie's dad had stolen from him.
Plus, Apple grinds Paul's gears and the guys chat about the new Macan and explain why it could be a dud for the brand...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to The Driver's Show podcast. My name is Gordon
and this is my co host Pablo Morak. Hello. I
thought we'll take a professional approach this episode, and this
is how I will be talking. Good to see you
Gordon the entire time. Thank you. Obviously, this podcast is
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Speaker 3 (01:05):
How's this for funny? The other time I was here,
I had a polestar too, and inside this rental car
they had a sticker for the next service interval and
it was a Velveleene sticker. We're you going to pour that?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's a really good point.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, that's some That's and that was the news segment
we call Paul's Shitty tippit.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh thank you, Paul, speaking tidbits. Whatever happened to your
dad's stolen car? You remember how the police you couldn't
get the tracking stuff. Did they ever find the car?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No? But yeah, so the car was on it did it?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But yeah, well the car the tracking device. I should say,
I've got to be careful what I say here. Interesting
lawyer is no longer on the scene.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I thought she took.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Was that. No, she's not a leave, she's there's a
reason I'm saving this macas to feed a family anyway.
So anyway, this is generally where the wheels fall off. No,
so the tracking device of the vehicle pinged back to
(02:16):
the dealership he bought it from in a completely different state,
at the other end of Australia. Oh yeah, you didn't
know that, So I thought.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It pinged to the dealership in Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, he bought it. He bought this car from a dealership.
He's from Melbourne and he bought this car from I
won't say the exact one, but he bought it from
a dealership in Queensland. Because if I tell you which
one it is, you'll be able to know very very quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Because okay, that must mean they just never set up
the tracking properly.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Because well, we hope.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So unlikely that the thief would go, I'm just going
to go get my car serviced.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well maybe, or maybe maybe it was the dealership. Maybe
there's a lot of different things, so who knows.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That'd be interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Who knows, maybe that dealership could be responsible for a
few things I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Out of a bicycle club, motorized bicycle club.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Maybe the cops kind of said, please just leave it
from now. Let's just you know this, this stuff happens
all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I just don't worry about it. She'll be right.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, it's more like I think it was more like,
leave it to us. We'll ask the questions. Please don't
contact these people, don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I ask the questions. It's been a long time now.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Nah, I don't think they did. And well they might have,
I don't know, but I think it was very much like,
let's just insurance has paid it out. Yeah, so I
think once you kind of if you don't close these
cases and move on to the thousands of other things
they've got going on, they're just going to get bogged
down and shit I mean, Mercedes made it so fucking hard,
(03:54):
so absolutely impossible to track that car. The fact that
they didn't turn it on for two and a half
weeks after police had asked them repeatedly, the fucking police,
the pole leaks ask them to turn this thing on
repeatedly in emails and on the phone, and they just
blatantly refused.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
How's the irony They market it as a tracking tool.
The second you need to use your fucking tracking tool,
you cannot figure out how to turn this thing on.
What is the point.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm also surprised that it didn't like that if this
was a dealer responsibility, a dealership responsibility. I remember talking
to Landrover about this and their car has already come
with it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, when I picked up Dad's Ranger, which has connected services,
before you leave the dealership, they're obliged to set it
up for you to activate.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
The mode, and that's on the app, that's on everything.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The dealership before you leave, which in theory they would
have had to have done with the BENS. I wouldn't
see why they wouldn't do it, given you've got the
bloody service.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yep, yeah, just a shit form. Anyway, He's loving his
brand Toyota Parto.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, can I tell you about his new toyde Prato
or loves at general.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, Toyotas in general are getting stolen, ton't they.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's out of control. So Victoria, We've spoken about this
previously about the huge amount of car theft going on
in Victoria with Classic holdens and stuff. Now the thieves
have switched to Toyotas. So two hundred series land Cruiser Prato,
so previous generation, current generation Corolla Colas or eighty six.
They are getting stolen in huge numbers. Highlux. Highlux is
(05:30):
the most stolen car in Victoria at the moment, is
it really? It's something like two or three a day
are getting stolen.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And they're using the same tool, that cheap tool that
you can get off the marketplace, hem and stuff. Yeah,
that they were using for the holdens on all of
these Toyotas. And it's a clever strategy in the sense
because if you steal a Classic Holden, it stands out
a lot, whereas if you steal a White land Cruiser
or a White Camri, no one can tell it apart
(05:58):
from the other White Camri. They clone the play and
they drive around in this stolen car. And what they're
increasingly using the two hundred series for is for ram
raids and also for stealing other vehicles on stolen trailers.
So they'll steal a trailer most Land cruises will have
a towbar. They'll hitch on, steal a car, whack it
on the trailer and away they go. So it is
just on another level at the moment in terms of
(06:20):
how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So they are they tolling a car with a stolen car.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yep, Yeah it's crazy, but you would never know because
they'll clone a plate and to the naked eye, it's
just some like driving down the road with a car
on the back. So yeah, it is just crazy. So
if you do drive a Toyota, Toyota is being extremely
unhelpful with this, like you know, to me, I kind
of was very disappointed with the GM response to us
(06:44):
that they kind of just don't give a shit. And Okay,
to a degree, I get it. Holden's on on sale
here hasn't met on sale for a while. They clearly
don't care about Australia. Whatever, Toyota, you are still selling
some of these cars, like you are still selling Corollas,
in that shape, the RAB four in that shape. They
can all be stolen using this tool. And while a
lot of new toyotas have connected services, a lot of
(07:06):
the older ones don't. And these cars that are still
in warranty, and I think.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
They see that's my big thing. If it's still in
warranty and they're refusing to do or fix what is
effectively a bug. Yeah, it's a bug.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, it is inherently an issue with if you look
at this holistically, a two hundred series land Cruiser ended
production a few years ago. Before that, it was on
sale for ten more ten or more years at that
ten year mark. Ten years prior to it going to
it wrapping up being on sale, they would have had
(07:39):
engineers working on the security system, which would have been
maybe two or three years before that. So you're talking
about a security system now that is about twenty years old.
So by that point people have reverse engineered this stuff
and clearly set up tools that are cheap to buy
and easy to steal these cars with. So when you
look at it from that point of view, you need
to be doing better by your customers now and maybe
(08:00):
incentivize them to come in for a service at a
Toyota dealership where you fit this fix. You know, they
have smart engineers, they can fix this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So here's what I'd say. We're at an issue where
Toyota is not fixing them, right, So what do people do?
What is the fix to this?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So there's two devices. There's a ghost to a Nigla.
Both of these are types of immobilizers. Both of these
at this stage can't be stolen by thieves, and at
least I'm sure they can. But they can't be stolen
by the majority of thieves because the people that are
stealing these cars are as dumb as dogshit. They don't
actually know really what they're doing. All they've seen is
(08:38):
on the internet. Their mates send them a link to
this device that can steal cars, so they just go And.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I think, I actually think some of them are fairly
fucking smart. I think the people who stole my dad's
car fucking knew what was up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, but I think that's just more brazen. If you
don't if you steal a car that potentially has connected services,
like you are dumb because while you do that. So
I think that that is a level of brazenness. But
these people that are stealing. These aren't all that sophisticated
because a lot of them are joy riding in them,
which just doesn't It's just stupid thing to do if
(09:10):
you don't want to stand out.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So you don't think they're reselling and doing all that
sort of stuff Wreckers and stuff, especially if it's a
Toyota Wrap four and a look.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They might be, but it's not the market that is
classic V eights. There's so many parts available for all
those cars at Wreckers that I don't know that you'd
get the like an LS three. You just cannot buy
ls's anymore. So this is where they're getting a lot
of money from. So yeah, I think that a lot
of this just comes down to Toyota needing to do better.
And I will emphasize as well, this isn't limited to
Toyota super heaps of STIs are getting stolen, Wrx's, Lavorg's
(09:45):
this this is a thing that is happening to a
lot of different car brands. If it has a push
button start, it can probably be stolen.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's crazy. Oh, speaking of the subs, they just released
the new Forester. You see the new Look out back.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
What the fuck like an outback used to be a wagon.
The latest one got a little bit bigger. This one.
I just do not understand, Like what it makes no
sense to me, really makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What do you mean? What don't you like about it? Sorry?
Just keep going, keep talking. It looks tragic, the new outback.
What don't you like about it? What are you googling? No,
I'm just I'm searching. Someone's at my front door anyway.
What we're saying? Superos? Yeah? Oh sorry, sorry, mates, some
(10:32):
Katie Lang's playing. I'm sorry. I just you got any
Scissor sisters. The outback is really good. Sorry, I don't
know why. I think it's every time you say super
or outback, Katie Lang.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Starts playing on my phone.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't know why that's that's so random anyway. So
I actually I was thinking about the new Supero outback.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And oh jesus, Missy Higgins is playing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I thought that's weird. I don't know why that's happened anyway. So, okay,
thank you, thank you. That's enough. Jeez, unbelievable anyway, anyway,
So I'm not I'm looking at the super back. Yes,
(11:17):
So anyway, I was, I was looking at the new
design of that super hour back and the fucking scissors
is a plague? How random is.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
That I get in my super room when I lock
my wist big for the muff?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh hey, so did you see this? This popped across
my desk the other week? The Apple Cup play in
the Auston Martin. I don't have I do have a
desk out there by the way.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yes, we're in the studio that Gordon works in.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, and the desk over there is the one that
looks like it hasn't been used in the twelve months
we've been in this building because it hasn't. I don't
use my desk. I just waltzed into the studio. What's up, guys, girls,
good old ladies. Oh, come on, it's like seagulls fighting
over a chip in here. Take a ticket and wait
(12:14):
in life, the deli is ready for business. Yes, Apple
Car plays, that was just that's just how this random
salami you get in here? Oh my god? Sorry, okay,
(12:36):
so yes, listen of Apple car play in the Aston Martin,
which is not just like normal Apple car play. It's
a real interface.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Take over there running and the speedo, everything infotainment, And
this is.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Kind of what we've been talking about for ages. I
know Trevor was sort of predicting this that Apple will
concentrate more on the interface than their Apple cars that
that were doing.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Can I tell you why this is fun and it's
a bad idea?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The other day is so negative?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The other day I got an update for my iPhone
and the lead line on that update was a Pride
wallpaper that they're rolling out. What they haven't fixed, though,
is the fucked camera that doesn't work when car plays running,
the phone that just randomly freezes so you can't type shit,
the phone that won't charge sometimes. This thing has become
(13:27):
a piece of shit. Come Tim Cook, I'm telling you,
has fucked that company so badly and they've completely taken
their eye off creating a phone that works. So my
concern is if the Apple car play inside that car
is as shit as my phone is now, and there's
a brand new phone with the latest software update, I mean,
(13:48):
what good is that going to be when it just
all stops working.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
An interview with Zuckerberg and he said similar stuff, not
quite to that ELK, but.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He was talking about vision Pro.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, well he was talking about Apple as a company
haven't exactly invented anything great.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No Vision Pro was Tim Cook's thing, and it's shit.
It's expensive and useless. So when you look at how
bad that company is now that he's in charge, it's
like they need a Steve Jobs back in there, someone
who is willing to go, Okay, we're going to stop
all the woke bullshit and we're going to go back
to actually doing phones the work instead of focusing on
(14:25):
all this other crap. All that other crap can come
when I can type shit on my phone and the
camera works until that point.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Your ecosystem, though, having said that, is still very much
This is what shits me because it's all Apple.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But I'm going to get to the point where this
thing when I need to fire it up to film
a video and it shits itself again, I'm just gonna Yeah,
I'm going to crack it and just go get an Android, which.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I would recommend. I actually recommend it some of the
Google The Google phones were great. I loved my Google phone.
The only reason why I moved to an iPhone was
because it was just easier for social media stuff. But
now that they're all pretty much but fairly equal, And
this also.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Links back into the discussion we had in the last
episode about tariffs and Apple, and there's a bit of
a side step here, but because he's had his eye
off the game and he has been I listened to
a season of the Land of the Giants, which is
basically investigate companies, and Apple was one that they did
it on, and this was recorded years ago before this
tariff stuff, and they literally said in that that because
(15:27):
they are driving their supplies so hard in China, everyone
is a contractor, they try and extract as much margin
as they can out of this phone. If there is
ever a trade war, Apple is fucked. And that is
precisely what's happened now. Because he's been greedy and just
wanting all these big profits, the issue has now become
(15:48):
that he is going to face a massive loss or
have to jack the price of the phone up, which
you can only do so much of. Even now, this
phone is like a two and a half thousand dollars thing,
which is insane. If you want to make that a
three thousand dollars thing, I think it is really going
to be a struggle for people to actually justify that anyone.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, absolutely, it's fucking It's only two hundred bucks to
fix that broken thing.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
But yeah, and that's the other thing as well. They're
so disposable that if I can be on Apple Care
for twenty whatever dollars a month and go throw this
off the building here and then just go get a
new one, it shows you how disposable they are and
how much money they make off each one of these phones.
Oh yeah, and some of the horrific stuff you hear
about the factories that these people work in isn't like.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Things like the screen. This is supplied by Samsung.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, the screen, I don't know. The Land of the Giants.
Thing I was listening to is older. I don't know
if it's now Samsung, but they basically the IP behind
the screen and scratch proof. And I use air quotes
here because this thing is anything that scratch. It is
covered in scratches and I don't do anything like it
sits in my pocket with no keys or anything, and
it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You put the glass protector thing on it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But why why not make a screen that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Isn't shit because the reality is they do.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Okay, well, then you don't say it's scratchproof, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It is it is. It isn't scratchproof, So why need
you just buy yourself a forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Screen, Why should I I've bought your phone. I'm spending
twenty five bucks a month on Apple Care because you
know it's cheap to get it replaced. Yes, and I've
got a not scratchproof screen, but I'm now going to
need to get replaced.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's a forty dollars thing and you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You won't get But imagine if you bought a car
and they're like, oh, look it's fine, but you need
to buy this thing for the engine to just work
as it should.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, but that happens a lot when well.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
What do you have to buy with a car that
they claim that it just doesn't do?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But how many people modify their cars to make it better.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You can do that. But this is the key item
is the screen. You say it's scratchproof, but if I
run my finger across it, it is full of scratches. Yeah,
so it's not scratchproof. And I don't necessarily like, I
don't go and scratch this on surfaces. I would never
do that. So how is it if I treat my phone? Well,
was it already scratched?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm worried about your health and I think you're going
to have cholesterol problems, and I think you should. Well, look,
let me make some calls. Let's see if I can get.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I do apologize for that rant, but I just think
Apple has turned into a ship company anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And that's what really grinds his gears Apple. Okay, Well,
we were going to talk about the the the Apple
car play in the Aston Martin. I'm look, I'm interested,
I think, and I think Apple car play is if
it works well in a car, it makes life so
much easier.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I just hope they have the a team on it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's all all right? Oh hey, did you say JAG
has rumored to have split with that marketing company? Why
you're on your little rats. I'd love to know what
you think it is. Yeah, who would have thought?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Bullshit work? Marketing didn't work out?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It didn't work? Wow? Wow. And and the fact that
they were saying that they're going completely original, yet their
new logo is a complete roop off of the Beats font.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's honestly, you just look at it and you're like
you you don't need to be a rocket signist to
see that that was never gonna work.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The physical concepts that they put out, Well, they're not concept,
they're arguably the actual car, right. I kind of see
that they want to make sexy and almost unattainable again,
you know, cars that people dream about owning. You know.
Then you see these rappers they want to kind of
hone in on that social media culture. They had that
(19:32):
Barry Kadogan Ordogan, they had John Cadogan, they had social
media superstar John Kodogan do their marketing. Get a fucker's
I shaved my bloody pubes with this razor inside this
fucking car. That was impressions. That wasn't bad. But yeah,
Barry Keogan, I think his name is. He's from salts Burn, Saltburn.
(19:58):
Did you watch that? They spent a lot of their
marketing and a lot on this launch, and wow, what
a way to not do things.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know what I reckon has happened unofficially. I think Tata,
who owns JLR. You know, you look at the execs
at Tata. I think they're fairly conservative. I reckon they
would have looked at this and gone, who the fuck
approved this? And stop it at once, And they're trying
to slowly walk their way out of it. I think
they're locked in with that car design and all the
(20:27):
other craft that comes with it, because it's now at
the driving engineering stage. But I think they will see
the marketing have a swift change because I do think
it's embarrassing for the brand and they Tata bought the
brand because it had so much heritage and they have
viscerated that heritage.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Is it fixable? That's the question. I think this will
take years.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, firstly, no one is buying luxury electric cars, so
there's your first mistake. So they're not going to sell
any just based on that alone. So I think that
even if it is good, it's it's just not going
to sell. So sang Yong is now known as in
Australia KGM KGM, which is very GM.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
What does that stand for? It's to build your dream situation?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Is that so KG mobility?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh my god? They fucking what? That sounds like a
care facility kind of does it does? It's like we
bought you a wheelchair. They're nevil. It's the latest k GM,
the camability.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So the genesis is that sang Yong part of KG.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
KGM.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So kg Sanyong became part of the KG group. They
were then known as KGM sang Yong Okay, then, and
the Sanyong brand dates back to like nineteen fifties. It
then became KGM Australia from June one.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Funk, why don't we even need chat GPT but we've
just got Pavlo.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, so anyway, they tell me.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
More about the history of kg What else have you
got there?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They announced it at the same time as they announced
the kg acton, which actually looks interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Show me.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's like a sort of very futuristic RoboCop style.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Really looks like it looks like a Pergo. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But yeah, look, I think it's a brand that has
fairly struggle struggles for relevance in Australia, and I think
giving it an obscure, random name isn't going to help.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, it's an interesting take because they yeah, I mean
Fu Sangyong. They they're bringing out sort of affordable cars
if you like. And then the little progress they've made,
they've kind of got to start again with a complete rebrand.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
This comment wasn't kg M an eighties rapper.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
With a big shirt.
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Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Hey, I saw an old mate during the week, one
who I haven't seen in quite a long time, and
I was excited to catch up. A bit awkward because
I know they had a face left. O. God, can
you imagine, Trevor, I'm wearing a fucking girdle.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Now, have a look at me.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
He looks like a court drawing. But it's been quite
generous and that's it. That's that's where it ends with that.
He just looks like a court drawing. That he looks like,
he looks like if a homeless man imagined themselves getting
their life together. I love you. Trevy was supposed to
be here this week, so anyway.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And why doesn't want to be here?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I don't know why. We had macas and everything. Yeah fuck,
can you imagine if this stuff, this macas would not
have lasted long. If Trevor's here.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There are four person bases.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
He would have he would have he would have poured
this large chips into Donna's belly button and just needed
like a dog.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Wow, that was that was good. You got him there.
It's like it's just like a dog.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Last time he was here, he was dragging his arms
on the car, but I had to fucking hit him
with the rolled up newspaper. No, so I did catch
up with an old mate who had a face left.
I'm talking about the Toyota eighty six baby. Oh yeah, yeah,
it'd been wild. It had been a bloody hot minute.
And you know, I always liked the Toyota eighty six's.
(27:44):
I always thought that were good cars. I mean I
preferred them over the subib z R or b Z
or whatever. But it is still just a brilliant, engaging,
clean cut sports car. There's no rits about it. There's
no fluff, it's just it still has that two point
(28:06):
four flat four. When you look at these numbers, one
hundred and seventy four kilowatts, two hundred and fifty new
meters of talk zero to one hundred and six point
three seconds. On paper, they're not that impressive, but when
you drive this thing around, it proves that they don't
need to be. They're a perfect example of numbers don't
necessarily sell cars, and and that's.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Why this and the stuff like the m X five
Kindness still just work. People buy them because you know,
they just do the job.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh what I mean, they're engaging, they're not a ton
of money. They fill the road so well, and they've
got they're almost intuitive to the driver the way they corner.
They're just such a great car. They don't need to be.
They don't need to have buckets of power. And as
I said, yes, they're just clean cut, real will drive
the interior there is nothing. I mean, the one I
(29:00):
had had cloth everywhere, and I thought about that. I mean,
I guess a lot of people in that sort of
boy racer kind of group will take those seats out
anyway and chuck some sports seats in there. They're not
obviously electric seats or anything. But what a fucking great car.
(29:20):
Just a really fun car.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I mean, it's just one of the few examples of
just being able to just drive around and have fun. Yeah,
not have to spend a mega amount of money, No,
you know, and for a lot of people's that's important
at the moment, so why not.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So yeah, yeah, it's modest and honest. And at the
same time, I thought to myself, does this thing need
a turbo? And I don't think it does. I think
it would loser.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
And that's the thing they've resisted for so long out
of get turbo. And it's like, you just don't really
need it for that. If you want to go do it,
you'll do it on your own, but you necessarily need it,
And I think that's the that's the impressive part of it.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And I think it still sounds pretty good too. You
could possibly add an exhaust if you wanted to, if
you wanted a more gutsier sound, but it probably doesn't
need it. I have, you know what, I even had
the auto and at the start, I know, no, I know,
and I'm telling you now I got proven wrong, Like
it wasn't maybe look maybe for me because it was
a daily it was I was doing it in traffic.
(30:17):
I was like, oh, this is great, this is really good.
And the paddle shifters they still work fine. M M
M eighty six. Baby, you're a stick gay, You're like
a bit of stick. Just throttle it, yeah, just really
onto it. It's are we still talking about car?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Done with here?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Now we're done without? Hey, Porsche mccahn, the EV. You've
the EV Porsche mccahn. You've had this for what a
couple of weeks now, and I'm keen to get your
thoughts on it because I remember at the launchers there
was some impressive stuff going on. The speed behind them
(30:58):
was good. And the McCann is an interesting Porsche because
it's the car that keeps Porsche going. It kind of
keeps the lights on. If you're like, it's the car
that kind of saved them back in the day, or
one of the cars that saved them back in the day,
and we're in a new era now.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I think they've made a critical error on that front.
McCarn was something like half of their sales volume and
they killed the internal combustion one and gambled everything onto
this fully electric one with no other option. They have
come out as part of their last investor updates saying
that they're working on another internal combustion small suv which
they will give a different name to. It won't be
(31:37):
called a McCarn. And look, when I went to the launch,
I was sort of fairly impressed with it. You know,
they were very smooth roads, and I thought, now, wait
till we get it back to Australia. And I guess
part of the problem I've got with this This is
a base McCarn. And unfortunately, for whatever reason, we let
one of our junior staff configure the car. And you know,
(32:00):
I just would never choose these options because of the
results of what this car is.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I saw those options, like it's.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Got ninety thousand dollars of options on a car that
has a base prize one hundred and twenty or something,
which I just think is outrageous anyway, because my Carn
used to be a small stretch for someone from a
Q five. Now it's this enormous leap, comes with nothing
standard and you look at the car and you're like,
I could see where you've added maybe ten grand worth
of options. How did you get to ninety thousand dollars
(32:28):
in options. You know, he specs it with twenty two's
the performance tire option, which makes the car skip along
the road when you do like a tight U turn
in the cold, which is just entirely unacceptable. The ride,
it rides like a boat, it tramlines. It really is
just unimpressive in that spec What was.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
The what a color was interior? Was it like? It
wasn't red? Red? And it wasn't red.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And this is the thing. We did a configure out
a challenge and our readers picked that one. So it
wasn't his full that he configured it that way, but
I would just I don't know why Porsche went ahead
with that, because this car, when you drive it, it's
just not impressive. So and all of that stuff adds
together to then affect the range as well. So I've
(33:14):
done a fair bit of driving in it, and I
wanted to see what the range would be like. So
it's pretty cold down in Melbourne at the moment. And
started off one hundred percent, did three hundred and seventy
k's battery got down to eighteen percent and was averaging
over twenty kilo what hours per hundred ks, and I'm like,
that is a lot for what is meant to be
a high tech, efficient expensive car too, So it means
(33:36):
that realistically you're getting four hundred k's of driving range
out of a battery, and this is marketed as having
over six hundred k's in that base, which is the
lightest configuration.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
To me, I just think that that they've missed a
trick with it, and.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
It's disappointing because they're a great car, the S, the
gts and like, they're all good.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I'll see what it's like to drive another Speck, but
just for the mar Like, there is no way I'd
spend two hundred plus on roads on this particular car.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And so hang on, let me just pause you there.
So how much so you said this was a base car.
How much was this going base before you added like
the ninety thousand worth of options to it? I think
it's like what one twenty something? Yeah, yeah, that is
a big step up from what the Q five.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, So yeah, here we go. So starts at one
twenty eight four hundred, so pretty much one thirty plus
on roads, so it's jumped thirty three grand.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And then you realistically turned it into a two hundred
and ten thousand dollars car.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Plus on roads. So two hundred and fifty k in
this thing, and I do not see it well even
the I'm going to pull the key.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Out, so you guys obviously round this experiment.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Give me a lot cheap? Does that look? So you
have to pay something like six or eight hundred dollars
to customize the key? Ah, that looks like just a base.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, it's plastic. Usually these are beautiful with the they
almost have a shellac coating on them, if you like,
and they usually color them in the same car.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Maybe that's a spare key for the car or something.
I don't know, but it just that looks cheap.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I've never seen this before, like I've never seen one.
Look this cheap. Oh that's basic? Boys, shit, look at that? Yeah?
So has he got a fronk?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yes? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Just just a bit
disappointed in the car even just interior space. Not much
room inside and if you want to buy it as
a family car, my daughter's seat in it, Like you
barely fit anything else.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
In the boot when you've got a pram in there. Yeah,
not much leg room in the rear. They haven't improved
the boot room at all.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Just yeah, it's I don't know, really not that impressed. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know there caman ev is coming out soon, and
I'm really hoping they don't fucking ass up that up that.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Up even that. It's like, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Who's asked you to do this?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Your customers haven't. No, what are you doing it for?
I just find it really odd. It's a very poor
business decision, definitely, But I just hope it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I know them, they're trying to meet European emission standards,
so aren't they. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They're meeting all their trading credits and stuff. But actually
here you go, so looking at their stock, I mean
this tells you everything you need to know at Porsche
is now publicly this company. Their stock over the past
year is down forty percent, So I think that that
kind of just tells you everything you need to know.
Your investors don't think it's a good idea any of
(36:33):
this stuff. And a lot of this downward activity started
end of last year, so it's just and then from
March this year onwards, it has just capitulated.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
If they literally were under the thumb from the EU.
They should really be making that more public because let's
just say they've been having to sit on this for
at least let's say seven years. At that point they
could easily argue and go, what EV has just gone
ballistic apart from a Tesla. Well, that's actually I just
(37:04):
took myself out of that because seven years ago Tesla
was fucking booming.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But if you want to compare it to other car
companies BMW, who's also publicly listed over the past year,
their share prices down thirteen percent. So yes, you have
a downward trajectory across all the companies, But thirteen percent
versus forty forty plus, I mean, that's a that's a
big difference, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Question This one comes from Durant's construction the Big three
F one, fifty, fifteen hundred and Z one slash two.
Which one would you pick for your garage and why? So?
Our choices are the F one, fifty YEP, the fifteen
hundred RAM YEP, and the Silverado. I'm guessing YEP, Z
(37:47):
one slash two.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I'd be For me, it would be probably the Chevy
because I love the V eight. I know it's not
the fastest there, but it sounds great. The RAM fifteen
hundred of the new turbo charge c goes like shit
off a shovel. It is incredibly fast. So if he
wants the quickest pickup truck out there, that's it. The
Forward I just think it feels pretty low rent. And
(38:09):
there is going to be a version of the F
one fifty the Platinum coming, which should definitely elevate things,
so that should be here as part of a face leaf.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I want to say the F one fifty generally, they
are such an iconic, beautiful like you get a big
black one fifty. They are stunning. I had the Chevy
Silverado over a couple of months over Christmas and I
loved it, loved it, So I'd be picking that. Yeah, okay,
I'd be picking that now. Two for the ship you
(38:40):
they've got a follow up question also also, is Pablo
keeping Donna in the back of the Shark six? Is
this why it can't get up the Heill?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
No, it should help it because it would be a
lot more weight. You'd be at payload.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I don't know about your payload. Thoughts on the twenty
twenty six Yen Day Palisade. Great question they're coming from
Liam Leaf.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
God, it looks good, looks great, looks so bloody good.
I think that yondy. The Santa Fe knocked it out
of the park in terms of interior. Looks so good.
I think palis Abe will take it to another level.
So I haven't driven it yet, but very much looking
forward to it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I agree. I think the Santa Fe was three
quarters good on the outside. Yeah. I look the back
end and they've been on the roads for quite a
while now, that's sort of them. What's that you get
used to get used to them. They're fine. I think
they're a great looking car. They drive fucking so well.
If you can get it with the Captain chairs spec
that would be my pick. That looks awesome. They know
(39:38):
how to make something right the last couple of years
they've proved that. I would I was thinking about the
twoson the other day. They should make an end version
of that. I know they've got their Genesis GV seventy Sport,
which is Magma. Yeah, they kind of took that. Yeah,
the Magma they took the I thought it was the
same as their Stinger engine and put that in there.
(40:00):
But I would have loved to have seen that in
the two soon. They never did that. In fact, their
end products have been they've sort of been quiet on that.
I don't know why they sell pretty well to tipc
But yes, thoughts on the new Palisade looks fantastic. I
think it's reasonably priced. It's kind of starting to creep
up there. I think they're starting to know what they've
(40:21):
really got. Yeah, what do you guys think of new
laws in Victoria for emergency vehicles on the side of
the road. Well, it's been a while since I've lived
in the Victorious. Yeah, pretty to this.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
The laws are not new for emergency vehicles. What they're
new for though, is sort of I guess you could
call them emergency vehicles as well. But stuff like RACV
tow trucks, the city link cars that get about the
place you are now required to slow to forty for
them as well. So in theory, this is a good
(40:53):
idea because you need to slow down around these vehicles
because there is a worker outside next to a freeway potentially,
and they need to go home to their families at
the end of the day. Where it doesn't work, though,
is when everyone most people don't know it's a rule.
Every time I see it, I slow down, and pretty
much no one else does, or a handful do. And
(41:13):
finally cotton on where it's an even bigger issue is
where you're on the Hume, where you've got enormous trucks
who cannot stop on a dime. So if people all
of a sudden remember this rule and jam the brakes on,
you can cause an almighty accident here. So it's one
of those things that needs to be a rule, but
it is a very difficult one because road rules and
(41:37):
driver education in Australia in general is fucked, so no
one knows it's a rule. So all you're going to
get is the police doing is sting one day, finding
all these people pissing people off. I just think that
it really comes back to driver education and people needing
to get a clue on what to do on the road,
even stuff like I'm just going to very quickly digress
here stuck in traffic on the way into work, and
(41:59):
what I always do is, depending on if I'm in
the adelane and we're crawling, I'll move over so there's
room for motorcycles to get through. Most people don't so
you've got a motorcycle that will have decent sized gaps
for people that move out of the way, and then
other people are just oblivious to this, and it's like,
why would you not just move a little bit? And
in Europe they all do that. They actually will have
(42:21):
a path, a full path for a vehicle to come
through an emergency services vehicle. Everyone instinctively does it. They
move right out of the way. But we don't do
that here. Again, it just comes down too terrible driver
training and.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
None relirements for it.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, it's like, why would you not be spending all
your speed camera revenue on proper drive training for everyone?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Well, yeah, I mean you just can't rely on people's
driving skills. Like I've got a maid of mine who
is a motorbike rider and he is in hospital right
now because he broke his pelvis. He was pulling out
of work and a fucking car came in and didn't
indicate and it just took him right out. Like he's
lucky to be alive. He's in a wheelchair at the moment. Wow. Yeah,
(43:00):
it's one of those things with motorbike riders. I feel
for them because I don't think a lot of these
accidents are necessarily been caused by them. They've they've really
just got to look out.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
For other cars most of the time. They're not like
you get the occasional person riding like an idiot and
coming off, but typically they'll just kill themselves. Yeah, but
people who are just trying to get to work on
a motorcycle are just constantly battling idiot drivers who don't
know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Unpredictable ones too. Let's move to Gemma in Perth. Hey,
Gemma in Perth. What is your pick for the best
ev and the most reliable? Oh? What is your pick
for best and most reliable non EV hot hatch Ah,
I'm going to say I'm going to take this one.
I really like the I thirty n Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I literally was about to say I thirty en because
it's been around for ages, heaps of accessories, people know
what they're doing. Comes with the track warranty, but Sunday
are generally pretty good with warranty as well. Yeah, if
it's not really if you want something a bit more
up to date, the new Golfer they've just launched. It
is a big step up in price, but it is
a lot of car and comes with some pretty cool
(44:11):
tech and I think is probably the king of the
hot hatches.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Is that the Mark eight point five?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, because I remember when the Mark eight came out,
I was like, I was really impressed that they had
the I think they had they had like a drift
mode on that. Why have diesels disappeared from the Australian
passenger car scene? From the Australian passenger car scene? Will
they ever come back? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Diesels are an interesting one. There's not as many of
them in passenger cars until you step up to SUVs
and stuff. I think it's a trickle down from Europe.
You've got this situation where in Europe they're less favored
because of the emissions that they have and they don't
solve the problems that they need in terms of hybridization.
That most hybrids are internal combustion petrol instead of diesel.
(44:59):
So as a result of we just don't see many
of those. You don't see many Chinese market cars with
diesel engines. They run a lot of petrol cars. So
I think you're just seeing a downscaling of where diesel's
being used. You will well and truly still see diesel
used in stuff like lan Cruise's Everest Ranger all that
sort of stuff for a little while yet, so it's
not dead just yet.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Last question comes from Gordon. A family car for under
eighty thousand dollars. Here you go, a bit of fun.
This guy sounds like a pain. He's a pain in
the ass. What about I think we kind of flirted
with the idea of a Beamer M forty. I ye
used obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
M three forty. I think that would be cool.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, or if you still look bad ass, they still
look still.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Very current, if you can get an X three M.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Forty I yeah, that's what I said. You know, I
thought you meant three series. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, the
three series or the the X three as well.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
I think that they'd be my two picks. Fun sound good,
hopefully within.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Budget watch this space.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Maybe you put a deposit down next time.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, that'd be good.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I just bought a oud E T t R s.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Ah Yeah did jh Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, run run over it tho because I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah. Actually, I'll tell you what happened to my phone, right, So,
maybe I'll take a photo of this and we'll put
it on the cell shoals but what has happened with
this phone is it's it's massively crushed up the back.
So I was going for a I was going for
a bit of a run, believe it or not with
my dog. No not, yes, someone chasing you. I was.
(46:37):
I was running from the rspz A someone else's dog. Yeah,
it's running from that. It's running from dinner.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
I have to run very fast.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
So no. So basically what was happening is I was
I stopped off. It was it was late at night,
and there was actually funny enough. There was a Beamer
three series M forty I yep in a Kupra show
group like what do you call them? Dealer shit? Like, ah,
that's cool. And it was this really nice blue and
(47:08):
that big pop and blue that they do. And so
I quickly sort of went over across a busy highway
to have a look at it, look at the price
all that. I could have just looked it up on carsoles. Anyway,
I'm running back over this road and I'm like fuck.
I had my headphones on and I'm sort of walking
in I could feel my phone had dropped out. I
(47:28):
was listening to the music and stuff, and I'm like, oh, fuck.
I've dropped my phone and I'm looking on the nature
streep and I'm like looking all around. I didn't have
a light. It was pitch black, asked this poor dude.
I'm like, hey, can you just light up your phone
so I can look for my phone? And we're both
sort of looking in the nature streep and couldn't find it.
And then I said, would you mind calling it? I'm
really sorry. I can tell it's close because I can
(47:49):
hear the music playing through my headphones. Yeah, yeah, no worries.
And he calls it and we're looking around. We're like,
what the fuck, and then we look in the middle
of this highway and it's just flashing in the middle of.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
The high and it had been there, doubles.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
It had been there for a good five minutes with
cars running all over it. So I mean, like for
like five minutes worth of cars running over I ever.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Seeing a camera that fucked Like every one of your
little camera lenses, yes, and again stupid designed by Apple
because they protrude. But every one of those camera lenses,
like carved in the whole back is shattered.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Thanks for that. I'm trying to sell this on marketplace. Yeah, no, look,
I will get it fixed. It's the problem is it's
it's only two hundred bucks to get that thing fixed,
but it's a forty five minute wait without my phone.
So I'm like, what am I going to do forty
five minutes when you come to your disk, don't tell
me how to work. Contact at the Drivershow dot com
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Speaker 3 (48:57):
Sorry, it's not very regular.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
No, no, anyway, work on that. We won't.
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what I mean? You know what I mean? Sometimes I
like to sit in my bath and soak in some
Velvelene Mortal oil as I rub that stuff all over
my called slippery old nipples.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
How's this for funny? The other time I was here,
I had a polestar too, and inside this rental car
they had a sticker for the next service interval and
it was a Velveleene sticker. We're you going to pour that?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's a really good point.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Okay, that's some That's and that was the news segment
we call Paul's Shitty tippit.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh thank you, Paul, speaking tidbits. Whatever happened to your
dad's stolen car? You remember how the police you couldn't
get the tracking stuff. Did they ever find the car?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No? But yeah, so the car was on it did it?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But yeah, well the car the tracking device. I should say,
I've got to be careful what I say here. Interesting
lawyer is no longer on the scene.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I thought she took.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Was that. No, she's not a leave, she's there's a
reason I'm saving this macas to feed a family anyway.
So anyway, this is generally where the wheels fall off. No,
so the tracking device of the vehicle pinged back to
(02:16):
the dealership he bought it from in a completely different state,
at the other end of Australia. Oh yeah, you didn't
know that, So I thought.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It pinged to the dealership in Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, he bought it. He bought this car from a dealership.
He's from Melbourne and he bought this car from I
won't say the exact one, but he bought it from
a dealership in Queensland. Because if I tell you which
one it is, you'll be able to know very very quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Because okay, that must mean they just never set up
the tracking properly.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Because well, we hope.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So unlikely that the thief would go, I'm just going
to go get my car serviced.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well maybe, or maybe maybe it was the dealership. Maybe
there's a lot of different things, so who knows.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That'd be interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Who knows, maybe that dealership could be responsible for a
few things I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Out of a bicycle club, motorized bicycle club.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Maybe the cops kind of said, please just leave it
from now. Let's just you know this, this stuff happens
all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I just don't worry about it. She'll be right.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, it's more like I think it was more like,
leave it to us. We'll ask the questions. Please don't
contact these people, don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I ask the questions. It's been a long time now.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Nah, I don't think they did. And well they might have,
I don't know, but I think it was very much like,
let's just insurance has paid it out. Yeah, so I
think once you kind of if you don't close these
cases and move on to the thousands of other things
they've got going on, they're just going to get bogged
down and shit I mean, Mercedes made it so fucking hard,
(03:54):
so absolutely impossible to track that car. The fact that
they didn't turn it on for two and a half
weeks after police had asked them repeatedly, the fucking police,
the pole leaks ask them to turn this thing on
repeatedly in emails and on the phone, and they just
blatantly refused.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
How's the irony They market it as a tracking tool.
The second you need to use your fucking tracking tool,
you cannot figure out how to turn this thing on.
What is the point.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm also surprised that it didn't like that if this
was a dealer responsibility, a dealership responsibility. I remember talking
to Landrover about this and their car has already come
with it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, when I picked up Dad's Ranger, which has connected services,
before you leave the dealership, they're obliged to set it
up for you to activate.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
The mode, and that's on the app, that's on everything.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
The dealership before you leave, which in theory they would
have had to have done with the BENS. I wouldn't
see why they wouldn't do it, given you've got the
bloody service.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yep, yeah, just a shit form. Anyway, He's loving his
brand Toyota Parto.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, can I tell you about his new toyde Prato
or loves at general.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, Toyotas in general are getting stolen, ton't they.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's out of control. So Victoria, We've spoken about this
previously about the huge amount of car theft going on
in Victoria with Classic holdens and stuff. Now the thieves
have switched to Toyotas. So two hundred series land Cruiser Prato,
so previous generation, current generation Corolla Colas or eighty six.
They are getting stolen in huge numbers. Highlux. Highlux is
(05:30):
the most stolen car in Victoria at the moment, is
it really? It's something like two or three a day
are getting stolen.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And they're using the same tool, that cheap tool that
you can get off the marketplace, hem and stuff. Yeah,
that they were using for the holdens on all of
these Toyotas. And it's a clever strategy in the sense
because if you steal a Classic Holden, it stands out
a lot, whereas if you steal a White land Cruiser
or a White Camri, no one can tell it apart
(05:58):
from the other White Camri. They clone the play and
they drive around in this stolen car. And what they're
increasingly using the two hundred series for is for ram
raids and also for stealing other vehicles on stolen trailers.
So they'll steal a trailer most Land cruises will have
a towbar. They'll hitch on, steal a car, whack it
on the trailer and away they go. So it is
just on another level at the moment in terms of
(06:20):
how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So they are they tolling a car with a stolen car.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yep, Yeah it's crazy, but you would never know because
they'll clone a plate and to the naked eye, it's
just some like driving down the road with a car
on the back. So yeah, it is just crazy. So
if you do drive a Toyota, Toyota is being extremely
unhelpful with this, like you know, to me, I kind
of was very disappointed with the GM response to us
(06:44):
that they kind of just don't give a shit. And Okay,
to a degree, I get it. Holden's on on sale
here hasn't met on sale for a while. They clearly
don't care about Australia. Whatever, Toyota, you are still selling
some of these cars, like you are still selling Corollas,
in that shape, the RAB four in that shape. They
can all be stolen using this tool. And while a
lot of new toyotas have connected services, a lot of
(07:06):
the older ones don't. And these cars that are still
in warranty, and I think.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
They see that's my big thing. If it's still in
warranty and they're refusing to do or fix what is
effectively a bug. Yeah, it's a bug.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, it is inherently an issue with if you look
at this holistically, a two hundred series land Cruiser ended
production a few years ago. Before that, it was on
sale for ten more ten or more years at that
ten year mark. Ten years prior to it going to
it wrapping up being on sale, they would have had
(07:39):
engineers working on the security system, which would have been
maybe two or three years before that. So you're talking
about a security system now that is about twenty years old.
So by that point people have reverse engineered this stuff
and clearly set up tools that are cheap to buy
and easy to steal these cars with. So when you
look at it from that point of view, you need
to be doing better by your customers now and maybe
(08:00):
incentivize them to come in for a service at a
Toyota dealership where you fit this fix. You know, they
have smart engineers, they can fix this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So here's what I'd say. We're at an issue where
Toyota is not fixing them, right, So what do people do?
What is the fix to this?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
So there's two devices. There's a ghost to a Nigla.
Both of these are types of immobilizers. Both of these
at this stage can't be stolen by thieves, and at
least I'm sure they can. But they can't be stolen
by the majority of thieves because the people that are
stealing these cars are as dumb as dogshit. They don't
actually know really what they're doing. All they've seen is
(08:38):
on the internet. Their mates send them a link to
this device that can steal cars, so they just go And.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I think, I actually think some of them are fairly
fucking smart. I think the people who stole my dad's
car fucking knew what was up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, but I think that's just more brazen. If you
don't if you steal a car that potentially has connected services,
like you are dumb because while you do that. So
I think that that is a level of brazenness. But
these people that are stealing. These aren't all that sophisticated
because a lot of them are joy riding in them,
which just doesn't It's just stupid thing to do if
(09:10):
you don't want to stand out.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So you don't think they're reselling and doing all that
sort of stuff Wreckers and stuff, especially if it's a
Toyota Wrap four and a look.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They might be, but it's not the market that is
classic V eights. There's so many parts available for all
those cars at Wreckers that I don't know that you'd
get the like an LS three. You just cannot buy
ls's anymore. So this is where they're getting a lot
of money from. So yeah, I think that a lot
of this just comes down to Toyota needing to do better.
And I will emphasize as well, this isn't limited to
Toyota super heaps of STIs are getting stolen, Wrx's, Lavorg's
(09:45):
this this is a thing that is happening to a
lot of different car brands. If it has a push
button start, it can probably be stolen.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's crazy. Oh, speaking of the subs, they just released
the new Forester. You see the new Look out back.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
What the fuck like an outback used to be a wagon.
The latest one got a little bit bigger. This one.
I just do not understand, Like what it makes no
sense to me, really makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What do you mean? What don't you like about it? Sorry?
Just keep going, keep talking. It looks tragic, the new outback.
What don't you like about it? What are you googling? No,
I'm just I'm searching. Someone's at my front door anyway.
What we're saying? Superos? Yeah? Oh sorry, sorry, mates, some
(10:32):
Katie Lang's playing. I'm sorry. I just you got any
Scissor sisters. The outback is really good. Sorry, I don't
know why. I think it's every time you say super
or outback, Katie Lang.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Starts playing on my phone.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't know why that's that's so random anyway. So
I actually I was thinking about the new Supero outback.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And oh jesus, Missy Higgins is playing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I thought that's weird. I don't know why that's happened anyway. So, okay,
thank you, thank you. That's enough. Jeez, unbelievable anyway, anyway,
So I'm not I'm looking at the super back. Yes,
(11:17):
So anyway, I was, I was looking at the new
design of that super hour back and the fucking scissors
is a plague? How random is.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
That I get in my super room when I lock
my wist big for the muff?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh hey, so did you see this? This popped across
my desk the other week? The Apple Cup play in
the Auston Martin. I don't have I do have a
desk out there by the way.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yes, we're in the studio that Gordon works in.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, and the desk over there is the one that
looks like it hasn't been used in the twelve months
we've been in this building because it hasn't. I don't
use my desk. I just waltzed into the studio. What's up, guys, girls,
good old ladies. Oh, come on, it's like seagulls fighting
over a chip in here. Take a ticket and wait
(12:14):
in life, the deli is ready for business. Yes, Apple
Car plays, that was just that's just how this random
salami you get in here? Oh my god? Sorry, okay,
(12:36):
so yes, listen of Apple car play in the Aston Martin,
which is not just like normal Apple car play. It's
a real interface.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Take over there running and the speedo, everything infotainment, And
this is.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Kind of what we've been talking about for ages. I
know Trevor was sort of predicting this that Apple will
concentrate more on the interface than their Apple cars that
that were doing.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Can I tell you why this is fun and it's
a bad idea?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The other day is so negative?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The other day I got an update for my iPhone
and the lead line on that update was a Pride
wallpaper that they're rolling out. What they haven't fixed, though,
is the fucked camera that doesn't work when car plays running,
the phone that just randomly freezes so you can't type shit,
the phone that won't charge sometimes. This thing has become
(13:27):
a piece of shit. Come Tim Cook, I'm telling you,
has fucked that company so badly and they've completely taken
their eye off creating a phone that works. So my
concern is if the Apple car play inside that car
is as shit as my phone is now, and there's
a brand new phone with the latest software update, I mean,
(13:48):
what good is that going to be when it just
all stops working.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
An interview with Zuckerberg and he said similar stuff, not
quite to that ELK, but.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He was talking about vision Pro.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, well he was talking about Apple as a company
haven't exactly invented anything great.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No Vision Pro was Tim Cook's thing, and it's shit.
It's expensive and useless. So when you look at how
bad that company is now that he's in charge, it's
like they need a Steve Jobs back in there, someone
who is willing to go, Okay, we're going to stop
all the woke bullshit and we're going to go back
to actually doing phones the work instead of focusing on
(14:25):
all this other crap. All that other crap can come
when I can type shit on my phone and the
camera works until that point.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Your ecosystem, though, having said that, is still very much
This is what shits me because it's all Apple.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But I'm going to get to the point where this
thing when I need to fire it up to film
a video and it shits itself again, I'm just gonna Yeah,
I'm going to crack it and just go get an Android, which.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I would recommend. I actually recommend it some of the
Google The Google phones were great. I loved my Google phone.
The only reason why I moved to an iPhone was
because it was just easier for social media stuff. But
now that they're all pretty much but fairly equal, And
this also.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Links back into the discussion we had in the last
episode about tariffs and Apple, and there's a bit of
a side step here, but because he's had his eye
off the game and he has been I listened to
a season of the Land of the Giants, which is
basically investigate companies, and Apple was one that they did
it on, and this was recorded years ago before this
tariff stuff, and they literally said in that that because
(15:27):
they are driving their supplies so hard in China, everyone
is a contractor, they try and extract as much margin
as they can out of this phone. If there is
ever a trade war, Apple is fucked. And that is
precisely what's happened now. Because he's been greedy and just
wanting all these big profits, the issue has now become
(15:48):
that he is going to face a massive loss or
have to jack the price of the phone up, which
you can only do so much of. Even now, this
phone is like a two and a half thousand dollars thing,
which is insane. If you want to make that a
three thousand dollars thing, I think it is really going
to be a struggle for people to actually justify that anyone.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, absolutely, it's fucking It's only two hundred bucks to
fix that broken thing.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
But yeah, and that's the other thing as well. They're
so disposable that if I can be on Apple Care
for twenty whatever dollars a month and go throw this
off the building here and then just go get a
new one, it shows you how disposable they are and
how much money they make off each one of these phones.
Oh yeah, and some of the horrific stuff you hear
about the factories that these people work in isn't like.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Things like the screen. This is supplied by Samsung.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, the screen, I don't know. The Land of the Giants.
Thing I was listening to is older. I don't know
if it's now Samsung, but they basically the IP behind
the screen and scratch proof. And I use air quotes
here because this thing is anything that scratch. It is
covered in scratches and I don't do anything like it
sits in my pocket with no keys or anything, and
it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You put the glass protector thing on it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But why why not make a screen that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Isn't shit because the reality is they do.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Okay, well, then you don't say it's scratchproof, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It is it is. It isn't scratchproof, So why need
you just buy yourself a forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Screen, Why should I I've bought your phone. I'm spending
twenty five bucks a month on Apple Care because you
know it's cheap to get it replaced. Yes, and I've
got a not scratchproof screen, but I'm now going to
need to get replaced.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's a forty dollars thing and you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
You won't get But imagine if you bought a car
and they're like, oh, look it's fine, but you need
to buy this thing for the engine to just work
as it should.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, but that happens a lot when well.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
What do you have to buy with a car that
they claim that it just doesn't do?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But how many people modify their cars to make it better.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You can do that. But this is the key item
is the screen. You say it's scratchproof, but if I
run my finger across it, it is full of scratches. Yeah,
so it's not scratchproof. And I don't necessarily like, I
don't go and scratch this on surfaces. I would never
do that. So how is it if I treat my phone? Well,
was it already scratched?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm worried about your health and I think you're going
to have cholesterol problems, and I think you should. Well, look,
let me make some calls. Let's see if I can get.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I do apologize for that rant, but I just think
Apple has turned into a ship company anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And that's what really grinds his gears Apple. Okay, Well,
we were going to talk about the the the Apple
car play in the Aston Martin. I'm look, I'm interested,
I think, and I think Apple car play is if
it works well in a car, it makes life so
much easier.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I just hope they have the a team on it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's all all right? Oh hey, did you say JAG
has rumored to have split with that marketing company? Why
you're on your little rats. I'd love to know what
you think it is. Yeah, who would have thought?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Bullshit work? Marketing didn't work out?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It didn't work? Wow? Wow. And and the fact that
they were saying that they're going completely original, yet their
new logo is a complete roop off of the Beats font.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's honestly, you just look at it and you're like
you you don't need to be a rocket signist to
see that that was never gonna work.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The physical concepts that they put out, Well, they're not concept,
they're arguably the actual car, right. I kind of see
that they want to make sexy and almost unattainable again,
you know, cars that people dream about owning. You know.
Then you see these rappers they want to kind of
hone in on that social media culture. They had that
(19:32):
Barry Kadogan Ordogan, they had John Cadogan, they had social
media superstar John Kodogan do their marketing. Get a fucker's
I shaved my bloody pubes with this razor inside this
fucking car. That was impressions. That wasn't bad. But yeah,
Barry Keogan, I think his name is. He's from salts Burn, Saltburn.
(19:58):
Did you watch that? They spent a lot of their
marketing and a lot on this launch, and wow, what
a way to not do things.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know what I reckon has happened unofficially. I think Tata,
who owns JLR. You know, you look at the execs
at Tata. I think they're fairly conservative. I reckon they
would have looked at this and gone, who the fuck
approved this? And stop it at once, And they're trying
to slowly walk their way out of it. I think
they're locked in with that car design and all the
(20:27):
other craft that comes with it, because it's now at
the driving engineering stage. But I think they will see
the marketing have a swift change because I do think
it's embarrassing for the brand and they Tata bought the
brand because it had so much heritage and they have
viscerated that heritage.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Is it fixable? That's the question. I think this will
take years.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, firstly, no one is buying luxury electric cars, so
there's your first mistake. So they're not going to sell
any just based on that alone. So I think that
even if it is good, it's it's just not going
to sell. So sang Yong is now known as in
Australia KGM KGM, which is very GM.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
What does that stand for? It's to build your dream situation?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Is that so KG mobility?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh my god? They fucking what? That sounds like a
care facility kind of does it does? It's like we
bought you a wheelchair. They're nevil. It's the latest k GM,
the camability.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So the genesis is that sang Yong part of KG.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
KGM.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So kg Sanyong became part of the KG group. They
were then known as KGM sang Yong Okay, then, and
the Sanyong brand dates back to like nineteen fifties. It
then became KGM Australia from June one.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Funk, why don't we even need chat GPT but we've
just got Pavlo.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, so anyway, they tell me.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
More about the history of kg What else have you
got there?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They announced it at the same time as they announced
the kg acton, which actually looks interesting.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Show me.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's like a sort of very futuristic RoboCop style.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Really looks like it looks like a Pergo. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But yeah, look, I think it's a brand that has
fairly struggle struggles for relevance in Australia, and I think
giving it an obscure, random name isn't going to help.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, it's an interesting take because they yeah, I mean
Fu Sangyong. They they're bringing out sort of affordable cars
if you like. And then the little progress they've made,
they've kind of got to start again with a complete rebrand.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
This comment wasn't kg M an eighties rapper.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
With a big shirt.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
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Speaker 1 (26:08):
Hey, I saw an old mate during the week, one
who I haven't seen in quite a long time, and
I was excited to catch up. A bit awkward because
I know they had a face left. O. God, can
you imagine, Trevor, I'm wearing a fucking girdle.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Now, have a look at me.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
He looks like a court drawing. But it's been quite
generous and that's it. That's that's where it ends with that.
He just looks like a court drawing. That he looks like,
he looks like if a homeless man imagined themselves getting
their life together. I love you. Trevy was supposed to
be here this week, so anyway.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And why doesn't want to be here?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I don't know why. We had macas and everything. Yeah fuck,
can you imagine if this stuff, this macas would not
have lasted long. If Trevor's here.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There are four person bases.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
He would have he would have he would have poured
this large chips into Donna's belly button and just needed
like a dog.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Wow, that was that was good. You got him there.
It's like it's just like a dog.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Last time he was here, he was dragging his arms
on the car, but I had to fucking hit him
with the rolled up newspaper. No, so I did catch
up with an old mate who had a face left.
I'm talking about the Toyota eighty six baby. Oh yeah, yeah,
it'd been wild. It had been a bloody hot minute.
And you know, I always liked the Toyota eighty six's.
(27:44):
I always thought that were good cars. I mean I
preferred them over the subib z R or b Z
or whatever. But it is still just a brilliant, engaging,
clean cut sports car. There's no rits about it. There's
no fluff, it's just it still has that two point
(28:06):
four flat four. When you look at these numbers, one
hundred and seventy four kilowatts, two hundred and fifty new
meters of talk zero to one hundred and six point
three seconds. On paper, they're not that impressive, but when
you drive this thing around, it proves that they don't
need to be. They're a perfect example of numbers don't
necessarily sell cars, and and that's.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Why this and the stuff like the m X five
Kindness still just work. People buy them because you know,
they just do the job.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh what I mean, they're engaging, they're not a ton
of money. They fill the road so well, and they've
got they're almost intuitive to the driver the way they corner.
They're just such a great car. They don't need to be.
They don't need to have buckets of power. And as
I said, yes, they're just clean cut, real will drive
the interior there is nothing. I mean, the one I
(29:00):
had had cloth everywhere, and I thought about that. I mean,
I guess a lot of people in that sort of
boy racer kind of group will take those seats out
anyway and chuck some sports seats in there. They're not
obviously electric seats or anything. But what a fucking great car.
(29:20):
Just a really fun car.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I mean, it's just one of the few examples of
just being able to just drive around and have fun. Yeah,
not have to spend a mega amount of money, No,
you know, and for a lot of people's that's important
at the moment, so why not.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So yeah, yeah, it's modest and honest. And at the
same time, I thought to myself, does this thing need
a turbo? And I don't think it does. I think
it would loser.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
And that's the thing they've resisted for so long out
of get turbo. And it's like, you just don't really
need it for that. If you want to go do it,
you'll do it on your own, but you necessarily need it,
And I think that's the that's the impressive part of it.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And I think it still sounds pretty good too. You
could possibly add an exhaust if you wanted to, if
you wanted a more gutsier sound, but it probably doesn't
need it. I have, you know what, I even had
the auto and at the start, I know, no, I know,
and I'm telling you now I got proven wrong, Like
it wasn't maybe look maybe for me because it was
a daily it was I was doing it in traffic.
(30:17):
I was like, oh, this is great, this is really good.
And the paddle shifters they still work fine. M M
M eighty six. Baby, you're a stick gay, You're like
a bit of stick. Just throttle it, yeah, just really
onto it. It's are we still talking about car?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Done with here?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Now we're done without? Hey, Porsche mccahn, the EV. You've
the EV Porsche mccahn. You've had this for what a
couple of weeks now, and I'm keen to get your
thoughts on it because I remember at the launchers there
was some impressive stuff going on. The speed behind them
(30:58):
was good. And the McCann is an interesting Porsche because
it's the car that keeps Porsche going. It kind of
keeps the lights on. If you're like, it's the car
that kind of saved them back in the day, or
one of the cars that saved them back in the day,
and we're in a new era now.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I think they've made a critical error on that front.
McCarn was something like half of their sales volume and
they killed the internal combustion one and gambled everything onto
this fully electric one with no other option. They have
come out as part of their last investor updates saying
that they're working on another internal combustion small suv which
they will give a different name to. It won't be
(31:37):
called a McCarn. And look, when I went to the launch,
I was sort of fairly impressed with it. You know,
they were very smooth roads, and I thought, now, wait
till we get it back to Australia. And I guess
part of the problem I've got with this This is
a base McCarn. And unfortunately, for whatever reason, we let
one of our junior staff configure the car. And you know,
(32:00):
I just would never choose these options because of the
results of what this car is.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I saw those options, like it's.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Got ninety thousand dollars of options on a car that
has a base prize one hundred and twenty or something,
which I just think is outrageous anyway, because my Carn
used to be a small stretch for someone from a
Q five. Now it's this enormous leap, comes with nothing
standard and you look at the car and you're like,
I could see where you've added maybe ten grand worth
of options. How did you get to ninety thousand dollars
(32:28):
in options. You know, he specs it with twenty two's
the performance tire option, which makes the car skip along
the road when you do like a tight U turn
in the cold, which is just entirely unacceptable. The ride,
it rides like a boat, it tramlines. It really is
just unimpressive in that spec What was.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
The what a color was interior? Was it like? It
wasn't red? Red? And it wasn't red.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And this is the thing. We did a configure out
a challenge and our readers picked that one. So it
wasn't his full that he configured it that way, but
I would just I don't know why Porsche went ahead
with that, because this car, when you drive it, it's
just not impressive. So and all of that stuff adds
together to then affect the range as well. So I've
(33:14):
done a fair bit of driving in it, and I
wanted to see what the range would be like. So
it's pretty cold down in Melbourne at the moment. And
started off one hundred percent, did three hundred and seventy
k's battery got down to eighteen percent and was averaging
over twenty kilo what hours per hundred ks, and I'm like,
that is a lot for what is meant to be
a high tech, efficient expensive car too, So it means
(33:36):
that realistically you're getting four hundred k's of driving range
out of a battery, and this is marketed as having
over six hundred k's in that base, which is the
lightest configuration.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
To me, I just think that that they've missed a
trick with it, and.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
It's disappointing because they're a great car, the S, the
gts and like, they're all good.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I'll see what it's like to drive another Speck, but
just for the mar Like, there is no way I'd
spend two hundred plus on roads on this particular car.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And so hang on, let me just pause you there.
So how much so you said this was a base car.
How much was this going base before you added like
the ninety thousand worth of options to it? I think
it's like what one twenty something? Yeah, yeah, that is
a big step up from what the Q five.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, So yeah, here we go. So starts at one
twenty eight four hundred, so pretty much one thirty plus
on roads, so it's jumped thirty three grand.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And then you realistically turned it into a two hundred
and ten thousand dollars car.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Plus on roads. So two hundred and fifty k in
this thing, and I do not see it well even
the I'm going to pull the key.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Out, so you guys obviously round this experiment.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Give me a lot cheap? Does that look? So you
have to pay something like six or eight hundred dollars
to customize the key? Ah, that looks like just a base.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, it's plastic. Usually these are beautiful with the they
almost have a shellac coating on them, if you like,
and they usually color them in the same car.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Maybe that's a spare key for the car or something.
I don't know, but it just that looks cheap.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I've never seen this before, like I've never seen one.
Look this cheap. Oh that's basic? Boys, shit, look at that? Yeah?
So has he got a fronk?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yes? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Just just a bit
disappointed in the car even just interior space. Not much
room inside and if you want to buy it as
a family car, my daughter's seat in it, Like you
barely fit anything else.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
In the boot when you've got a pram in there. Yeah,
not much leg room in the rear. They haven't improved
the boot room at all.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Just yeah, it's I don't know, really not that impressed. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know there caman ev is coming out soon, and
I'm really hoping they don't fucking ass up that up that.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Up even that. It's like, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Who's asked you to do this?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Your customers haven't. No, what are you doing it for?
I just find it really odd. It's a very poor
business decision, definitely, But I just hope it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I know them, they're trying to meet European emission standards,
so aren't they. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They're meeting all their trading credits and stuff. But actually
here you go, so looking at their stock, I mean
this tells you everything you need to know at Porsche
is now publicly this company. Their stock over the past
year is down forty percent, So I think that that
kind of just tells you everything you need to know.
Your investors don't think it's a good idea any of
(36:33):
this stuff. And a lot of this downward activity started
end of last year, so it's just and then from
March this year onwards, it has just capitulated.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
If they literally were under the thumb from the EU.
They should really be making that more public because let's
just say they've been having to sit on this for
at least let's say seven years. At that point they
could easily argue and go, what EV has just gone
ballistic apart from a Tesla. Well, that's actually I just
(37:04):
took myself out of that because seven years ago Tesla
was fucking booming.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But if you want to compare it to other car
companies BMW, who's also publicly listed over the past year,
their share prices down thirteen percent. So yes, you have
a downward trajectory across all the companies, But thirteen percent
versus forty forty plus, I mean, that's a that's a
big difference, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Question This one comes from Durant's construction the Big three
F one, fifty, fifteen hundred and Z one slash two.
Which one would you pick for your garage and why? So?
Our choices are the F one, fifty YEP, the fifteen
hundred RAM YEP, and the Silverado. I'm guessing YEP, Z
(37:47):
one slash two.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I'd be For me, it would be probably the Chevy
because I love the V eight. I know it's not
the fastest there, but it sounds great. The RAM fifteen
hundred of the new turbo charge c goes like shit
off a shovel. It is incredibly fast. So if he
wants the quickest pickup truck out there, that's it. The
Forward I just think it feels pretty low rent. And
(38:09):
there is going to be a version of the F
one fifty the Platinum coming, which should definitely elevate things,
so that should be here as part of a face leaf.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I want to say the F one fifty generally, they
are such an iconic, beautiful like you get a big
black one fifty. They are stunning. I had the Chevy
Silverado over a couple of months over Christmas and I
loved it, loved it, So I'd be picking that. Yeah, okay,
I'd be picking that now. Two for the ship you
(38:40):
they've got a follow up question also also, is Pablo
keeping Donna in the back of the Shark six? Is
this why it can't get up the Heill?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
No, it should help it because it would be a
lot more weight. You'd be at payload.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I don't know about your payload. Thoughts on the twenty
twenty six Yen Day Palisade. Great question they're coming from
Liam Leaf.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
God, it looks good, looks great, looks so bloody good.
I think that yondy. The Santa Fe knocked it out
of the park in terms of interior. Looks so good.
I think palis Abe will take it to another level.
So I haven't driven it yet, but very much looking
forward to it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I agree. I think the Santa Fe was three
quarters good on the outside. Yeah. I look the back
end and they've been on the roads for quite a
while now, that's sort of them. What's that you get
used to get used to them. They're fine. I think
they're a great looking car. They drive fucking so well.
If you can get it with the Captain chairs spec
that would be my pick. That looks awesome. They know
(39:38):
how to make something right the last couple of years
they've proved that. I would I was thinking about the
twoson the other day. They should make an end version
of that. I know they've got their Genesis GV seventy Sport,
which is Magma. Yeah, they kind of took that. Yeah,
the Magma they took the I thought it was the
same as their Stinger engine and put that in there.
(40:00):
But I would have loved to have seen that in
the two soon. They never did that. In fact, their
end products have been they've sort of been quiet on that.
I don't know why they sell pretty well to tipc
But yes, thoughts on the new Palisade looks fantastic. I
think it's reasonably priced. It's kind of starting to creep
up there. I think they're starting to know what they've
(40:21):
really got. Yeah, what do you guys think of new
laws in Victoria for emergency vehicles on the side of
the road. Well, it's been a while since I've lived
in the Victorious. Yeah, pretty to this.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
The laws are not new for emergency vehicles. What they're
new for though, is sort of I guess you could
call them emergency vehicles as well. But stuff like RACV
tow trucks, the city link cars that get about the
place you are now required to slow to forty for
them as well. So in theory, this is a good
(40:53):
idea because you need to slow down around these vehicles
because there is a worker outside next to a freeway potentially,
and they need to go home to their families at
the end of the day. Where it doesn't work, though,
is when everyone most people don't know it's a rule.
Every time I see it, I slow down, and pretty
much no one else does, or a handful do. And
(41:13):
finally cotton on where it's an even bigger issue is
where you're on the Hume, where you've got enormous trucks
who cannot stop on a dime. So if people all
of a sudden remember this rule and jam the brakes on,
you can cause an almighty accident here. So it's one
of those things that needs to be a rule, but
it is a very difficult one because road rules and
(41:37):
driver education in Australia in general is fucked, so no
one knows it's a rule. So all you're going to
get is the police doing is sting one day, finding
all these people pissing people off. I just think that
it really comes back to driver education and people needing
to get a clue on what to do on the road,
even stuff like I'm just going to very quickly digress
here stuck in traffic on the way into work, and
(41:59):
what I always do is, depending on if I'm in
the adelane and we're crawling, I'll move over so there's
room for motorcycles to get through. Most people don't so
you've got a motorcycle that will have decent sized gaps
for people that move out of the way, and then
other people are just oblivious to this, and it's like,
why would you not just move a little bit? And
in Europe they all do that. They actually will have
(42:21):
a path, a full path for a vehicle to come
through an emergency services vehicle. Everyone instinctively does it. They
move right out of the way. But we don't do
that here. Again, it just comes down too terrible driver
training and.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
None relirements for it.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, it's like, why would you not be spending all
your speed camera revenue on proper drive training for everyone?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Well, yeah, I mean you just can't rely on people's
driving skills. Like I've got a maid of mine who
is a motorbike rider and he is in hospital right
now because he broke his pelvis. He was pulling out
of work and a fucking car came in and didn't
indicate and it just took him right out. Like he's
lucky to be alive. He's in a wheelchair at the moment. Wow. Yeah,
(43:00):
it's one of those things with motorbike riders. I feel
for them because I don't think a lot of these
accidents are necessarily been caused by them. They've they've really
just got to look out.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
For other cars most of the time. They're not like
you get the occasional person riding like an idiot and
coming off, but typically they'll just kill themselves. Yeah, but
people who are just trying to get to work on
a motorcycle are just constantly battling idiot drivers who don't
know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Unpredictable ones too. Let's move to Gemma in Perth. Hey,
Gemma in Perth. What is your pick for the best
ev and the most reliable? Oh? What is your pick
for best and most reliable non EV hot hatch Ah,
I'm going to say I'm going to take this one.
I really like the I thirty n Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I literally was about to say I thirty en because
it's been around for ages, heaps of accessories, people know
what they're doing. Comes with the track warranty, but Sunday
are generally pretty good with warranty as well. Yeah, if
it's not really if you want something a bit more
up to date, the new Golfer they've just launched. It
is a big step up in price, but it is
a lot of car and comes with some pretty cool
(44:11):
tech and I think is probably the king of the
hot hatches.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Is that the Mark eight point five?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, because I remember when the Mark eight came out,
I was like, I was really impressed that they had
the I think they had they had like a drift
mode on that. Why have diesels disappeared from the Australian
passenger car scene? From the Australian passenger car scene? Will
they ever come back? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Diesels are an interesting one. There's not as many of
them in passenger cars until you step up to SUVs
and stuff. I think it's a trickle down from Europe.
You've got this situation where in Europe they're less favored
because of the emissions that they have and they don't
solve the problems that they need in terms of hybridization.
That most hybrids are internal combustion petrol instead of diesel.
(44:59):
So as a result of we just don't see many
of those. You don't see many Chinese market cars with
diesel engines. They run a lot of petrol cars. So
I think you're just seeing a downscaling of where diesel's
being used. You will well and truly still see diesel
used in stuff like lan Cruise's Everest Ranger all that
sort of stuff for a little while yet, so it's
not dead just yet.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Last question comes from Gordon. A family car for under
eighty thousand dollars. Here you go, a bit of fun.
This guy sounds like a pain. He's a pain in
the ass. What about I think we kind of flirted
with the idea of a Beamer M forty. I ye
used obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
M three forty. I think that would be cool.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, or if you still look bad ass, they still
look still.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Very current, if you can get an X three M.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Forty I yeah, that's what I said. You know, I
thought you meant three series. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, the
three series or the the X three as well.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
I think that they'd be my two picks. Fun sound good,
hopefully within.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Budget watch this space.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Maybe you put a deposit down next time.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, that'd be good.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I just bought a oud E T t R s.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Ah Yeah did jh Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, run run over it tho because I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah. Actually, I'll tell you what happened to my phone, right, So,
maybe I'll take a photo of this and we'll put
it on the cell shoals but what has happened with
this phone is it's it's massively crushed up the back.
So I was going for a I was going for
a bit of a run, believe it or not with
my dog. No not, yes, someone chasing you. I was.
(46:37):
I was running from the rspz A someone else's dog. Yeah,
it's running from that. It's running from dinner.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
I have to run very fast.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
So no. So basically what was happening is I was
I stopped off. It was it was late at night,
and there was actually funny enough. There was a Beamer
three series M forty I yep in a Kupra show
group like what do you call them? Dealer shit? Like, ah,
that's cool. And it was this really nice blue and
(47:08):
that big pop and blue that they do. And so
I quickly sort of went over across a busy highway
to have a look at it, look at the price
all that. I could have just looked it up on carsoles. Anyway,
I'm running back over this road and I'm like fuck.
I had my headphones on and I'm sort of walking
in I could feel my phone had dropped out. I
(47:28):
was listening to the music and stuff, and I'm like, oh, fuck.
I've dropped my phone and I'm looking on the nature
streep and I'm like looking all around. I didn't have
a light. It was pitch black, asked this poor dude.
I'm like, hey, can you just light up your phone
so I can look for my phone? And we're both
sort of looking in the nature streep and couldn't find it.
And then I said, would you mind calling it? I'm
really sorry. I can tell it's close because I can
(47:49):
hear the music playing through my headphones. Yeah, yeah, no worries.
And he calls it and we're looking around. We're like,
what the fuck, and then we look in the middle
of this highway and it's just flashing in the middle of.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
The high and it had been there, doubles.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
It had been there for a good five minutes with
cars running all over it. So I mean, like for
like five minutes worth of cars running over I ever.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Seeing a camera that fucked Like every one of your
little camera lenses, yes, and again stupid designed by Apple
because they protrude. But every one of those camera lenses,
like carved in the whole back is shattered.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Thanks for that. I'm trying to sell this on marketplace. Yeah, no, look,
I will get it fixed. It's the problem is it's
it's only two hundred bucks to get that thing fixed,
but it's a forty five minute wait without my phone.
So I'm like, what am I going to do forty
five minutes when you come to your disk, don't tell
me how to work. Contact at the Drivershow dot com
dot au if you've got ques, or definitely on Instagram too.
(48:44):
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you can find, rate share, subscribe like our content. Our
content is on the instagrams and that'd be great. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Sorry, it's not very regular.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
No, no, anyway, work on that. We won't.
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