May 14, 2024 • 51 mins
Well, our dry spell is over, Back into the swing of things, we talk Toyota's BZ4x, the Cybertruck in OZ, Kia's Tasman Ute, the Lambo Urus SE, plus the boys get in and drive around the BYD Seal Performance and Hyundai's crazy IONIQ 5 N.
Plus Donna calls in and Gordie heckles a listener.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well here we are finally. Good to see you, Gordon,
I don't believe you. Good to see you, Pavle, good
to see Are you being sponsored by that that dinosaur
brand with the walking stick?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, you wear that a lot. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
No, just did you just go into that store and
just buy a whole heap of ship and just go this?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'll do it just fits my beautiful body.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, your zeke, your your glistening pecks that wouldn't look
out of place on a yacht in the Mediterranean.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Guilty is charged speaking? Which I was there recently? Were you? Yeah?
Colus enough, I was in Nice. It was quite nice.
And where it is you've been sitting on that ever?
Come back? You want to?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You on some sort of boat surround by an electric boat.
Fat kind of European men with you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Know we Australian man. That was other murtoring journealists. No
Tremor was there. Yeah, that's it. It wouldn't be buoyant
with him on it. No, just kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, we were there for the porchum car launch, which
we'll talk about soon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But we're on an electric boat.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So this was basically a boat that runs a porschem
of carn motor and one hundred kilo what our battery?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And if you thought that electric cars were not great
for long distance driving, how about an electric boat which
we left the harbor with fifty percent literally fanged around
in this just outside nice for I reckon ten to
fifteen minutes maximum and it was down to twenty five
percent and he had to put it in range mode
to get hited back to the Oh god.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So it's funny when man at Carr manufacturers do boats.
Lamborghini's got a boat. Yeah, the Lambo Boat's call though. Yeah,
that is cool. That looks something straight out about man.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, one of my friends has two of them because
you can in one frames. But this, this Porsche boat
is it's more designed as a tender, so a little
bitch boat for a bigger boat. So I guess that
kind of makes sense, and it means you can every boat.
Harbor has three phase charging, so it's easy to charge it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But I love how someone thought water and electricity. That's
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Fucking do that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, wowe oh you know what, I you know what
I did have a cheeky crack at that bloody Toyota
b f z X whatever, the one that sounds like
Elon Musk's kid, but that one.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So you've been in this, right, you've been in this car.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I can't see the speeder. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I
don't know if that's just a mean thing. I think
it's a you thing, you and your weird shaped head.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I actually thought of that when when I sat in there,
I'm like, what's Paul talking about? Like the head's up
display looks all right. I think it sort of depends
on how you maneuver it. But it was such a
it's a confusing car that it's really confusing because it's
what it's Toyota's first EV and it's actually the one
I was in was top spec, well appointed, looks really
(02:59):
quite plush in the outside. I mean it's like Toyota
every now and then do this gimmecky sort of car design.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's eighty thousand dollars. That's my only issue with it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
If it was a cheap, cheerful forty to fifty k,
you kind of go, eh.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Eighty k. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'll tell you where it makes sense. It makes sense
in the entry level front will drive version. And the
reason that car I think, Like, to me, I don't
think it's an amazing ev but the market for them
is Toyota customers. So it's someone who drives a camera
that wants an electric car, and it is literally just
an electric camera.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You get into it and it's Toyota.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
There's buttons for everything, it does all the Toyota stuff
that you expect it to do. It's just very safe,
conservative Toyota. So to me it could actually do. Okay,
I personally wouldn't buy one. I don't think it has
the tech that I want out of it. I can't
see the speedo, which kind of important. But yeah, I
(03:58):
think that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'll be interested to see how it goes for them. Yeah.
Is it the same platform as that Subaru that they're
bringing out, Yes, the yeah Solterra yep.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think the only difference that that's going to have
is they'll rip out any interior that looks remotely interesting
and just dumb it down, because the sol Terra interior
shots were pretty plain. But yeah, look, I thought it
was a good car.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like it drives. I think it drives great.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I think it looks interesting, but the price tag blows
my mind, Like, especially in that market, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sure, what are you gonna buy? You're gonna buy.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You're spending eighty thousand dollars on something that you think
is quality, you know what I mean, it's a brand name.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Here's the biggest issue for them. Just when was it
three or four days ago? Tesla dropped their prices massively.
So let me quickly run through this because this is
going to be Toyota's biggest headache because.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Because now let me open this up. He's opening up
his ass. Guys, he's not talking about anything here. We
want said, just get rid of your shit all over
a car brand. Here we go, Okay, here we go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So Tesla has just dropped their prices again. And to
put it into context.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Model three now starts at fifty eight thousand, nine hundred dollars,
which is the cheapest it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Cheapest Tesla Model Y sixty nine hundred, which again is
the cheapest it's ever been for the price of or
similar price to that top spec BZ four X. You're
getting significantly more Tesla and you can even stretch to
a model wide performance for eighty two nine hundred. So
(05:44):
this is a huge price reduction. So if you compare
it to the peak, So it peaked to just after
Model Y came out at seventy two three hundred start price.
It's now sixty nine hundred, so twelve thousand dollars cheaper.
So Tesla is definitely trying to compete with its other
Chinese manufactured siblings, and the I guess the side effects
(06:06):
of that are going to be anyone that has gone
and bought any of these other evs that are now
significantly more expensive than the Tesla. The other thing that
that Tesla hasn't really thought maybe they have thought about
and they just don't care, is people that are trying
to now.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sell these because.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask with the Toyota,
because the depreciation on evs is terrible, but a Toyota
being a Toyota, they kind of hold their value, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And Toyota's selling a lot of these on leases. They're
not really trying to push a driveway price. They're trying
to push a lease that means they just take it
back at the end of it and then who knows
what they're going to do with it then. But the
interesting thing here is if you took out a novated
lease with a model y at its peak, your car
on a two year ovated lease is going to be
(06:53):
coming up for it's residual and balloon that for me
is forty three thousand dollars. So at the moment, if
your balloon is forty three thousand dollars and a brand
new one is sixty thousand dollars, you're going to be
on the second hand market at about between forty and
(07:14):
fifty grand. I just think, I don't know that a
lot of people are going to be buying these secondhand,
and that is going to push the price of them
down even more as people try and panic sell because
they want to meet their balloon payment. And if you
have a look at a lot of the instant offer
people on the internet. So at car Expert, we've got
an instant offer thing. Car Sales has an instant off
a thing. They're all offering high thirties for the model.
(07:38):
Why at the moment, wow, I just speak, it is
going to be grim. And that's why people who ran
into this novated least thing thinking oh well, I'll save
money on my tax and all this sort of stuff,
they're going to get the shock of their life when
it comes to the balloon payment and not being able
to sell the car for anywhere near the balloon payment
and then being under So if that is you, email
(07:59):
us contact at the Dryshow dot com today. What do
you think about Tesla taking you know, twelve grand off
the price of this thing that you bought that hasn't
changed at all.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Speaking of Tesla, what I saw drive around Sydney yesterday.
They decided to sneak in a cyber truck.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's a little bit cheeky and you know what they did,
just not not trying to get too much attention.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
They drove it to Bondai and parked a.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Bit park it parked at a Bondai and they did
park it at the shopping mall in Double Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now that whole area is quite affluent, and it looked
so out of it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Just there's something about the cyber truck, maybe because they
haven't been here, but you know what it is, It
looks so out of place in Australian roads.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It is it is. This is going to sound creepy,
but it is the guy that goes to the children's
playground in a trench coat. It's you. It has nothing
on underneath them open to his trench car. It's the
shock that is the most amazing compots.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You know what, This car is like a pedophile, That's
what it's like. This car's like a guy who owns
a trampoline but doesn't have kids, but.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's one of those people who just wants shock factor. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That is what the car is about, and that is
why it will be short lived in terms of its popularity,
because if you're the first to have one, everyone's like, oh, well,
look at this thing.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But I think it will end up being like the
what was the as Tech Pontiac Oh yeah, yeah, Pontiac Aztek,
the car out of Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It just looks like that, which at the time would
have been like, oh wow, I've got a Pontiac as tick.
It's look at me now. You look at and you're like, oh,
it's a Pontiac as Tech. I think that's what the
cyber truck is going to end up being, because I
think it looks cool now and cool in the sense
that it's different to everything else. I can't see it
being a longer term thing. It's in Australia, where people
were asking why is it in Australia, Right, It's probably
(09:54):
in Australia to test software and hardware. So they actually
brought out a model ess plaid played a little while back,
which we don't get here and we won't be getting here,
and they brought that out to do some testing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Typically, if they're testing.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
New cameras, for example, they want to check that it
works with our road signs, and they might roll those
cameras out into the Model three and the Model Y,
which we do get in Australia.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Interesting though, that they did that with a cyber truck.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, well, look at you get two things out of it. One,
you get to drive up interest. Tesla sales are declining
that they're having big issues as a company in terms
of hitting targets and selling cars. Second part is you know,
if you bring it around here, everyone wants to go
get a photo with it. And next to it, conveniently
is a Model three and a Model Y. So I
think they'll end up probably doing a bit of a
(10:39):
road show tour around the country with it just to
get that interest up.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But who does.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
There is a picture of it parked at Double Bay.
Oh god, just in my cyber truck trying to fight
a car park because I'm late for plarties.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh, I've got to meet up for cappuccinos with the girls.
Lander two. That is as a fat little bagger, isn't that. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I mean, look at it's right up against the curb
and it's sticking sticking out, so it's a big old thing.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Can't see it coming here? I just can't. Well, it
won't be coming here.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And I'll explain why they build it only in Texas
and currently they have a huge order bank in the
States for it. Their production is incredibly low like that.
They haven't figured out how to actually mass produce it yet,
so they're going to be figuring out the States for
quite some time before they even look at anything.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
In right hand drive. What is that? That's a hememache
on the back of a I know why you're sitting
at a patrol Yeah, this and via patrol Warrior. That's
just because you can want to know anyway. Anyway, the
key ut right? What is it called the Tasman or
(11:48):
some Tasman?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So the ad dropped, which we forgot to talk about,
but I'll bring it up now. I think everyone I
think it's some bloody clever advertising. I think it's it's
fantastics x Yeah, it's really well done. The problem is,
I'm not the sportiest bloke in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I didn't know who the fucking of them were. Ash Barji, Yeah,
it's like ash Barti. Is she the one that sailed
solo around the world? Which run?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
She?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It wasn't that the guy in anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So apparently they filmed that in Bondai at a pub. Yeah,
over a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
The Bondo pub. Yeah, it was filmed in Bondo Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But I was actually asking someone about this. I thought,
this is an expensive ad. If you have to get
that many celebrities.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Please wend All Sailor's in it. That's his first gig
in quite sometimes who that is? But I was at
the Sailor the one that went around Yeah probably.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So yeah, And apparently what happened was they got a
couple of big names on board, and when the people
they approached her that the big names were on board,
they wanted to be involved as well, So it ended
up becoming a fomo thing. Yeah, they weren't all there
at the same time, but they look like they were.
So it's a clever campaign because this is a big
deal for Kea and if you look at Australia for
(13:08):
KEA where home of the Australian Open. Obviously they're a
global sort of partner of that event, so Keia Global
spends a lot of money here, so that means that
KEA Australia benefits from the advertising, the cars that they
have to buy to run the event, et cetera. And
the ute is going to be we will probably be
the primary market for that vehicle unless it goes to
the States as well, and they're putting a lot of
(13:30):
effort into right and handling tuning here. Australia has had
a lot of involvement in the development work for that car.
What we do know and we've just put a video
up on car Expit about this, we do know that
it won't have V six so it'll only be four cylinder.
There is an electric ute coming, but it may not
be coming to Australia, so that's due to be launched
next year.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Four cylinder. Could this be a hybrid, No, just diesel,
straight diesel.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Currently their only four cylinder diesel is like four hundred
and forty ut meters, so it is pretty piss week.
If they do want it to compete, it'll need to
be the or seventy to match Triton or five hundred
to match Ranger and high Lux, so that they're the
things that they have.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
To focus on. The design. I don't know if you've
seen it, but it's interesting looking. I don't hate it, Okay,
I don't hate it. I think it looks all right.
It looks good.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So we had our guy do some sort of renders
based on all of the spy photos we've had so far,
and this is what he's come up with.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, that's what do you think? It's just showed me
some Butcher's paper and crayon drawing geese. Your guy must
be really good. I like it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I think it looks good. The headlights yeah, vertical, yeah,
I think that. I think they're a little bit more
square on the real thing, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, this is this is the okay, look like right? Well, yeah,
I think it looks good. I think it looks good. Interesting. Well.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Most of the time, I'll shit on a car, literally
I did. I did want on yours on downstairs. Unfortunately
it wasn't actually yours tops car.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The key I'm excited for it. I'm excited. You know
what the care you could even be my new car.
Oh watch out you, you tray to you.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm getting a bit itchy. I'm getting a bit itchy.
I'm getting some new car fields.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm currently kind of going, I think of only.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean, I've really taken the out back to the
art back and beyond.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I mean it's dark. You would if it wouldn't run
out of fuel.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, you got to the edge of s We're still bloody,
averaging twelve twelve leaders per one hundred k's something weird.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do you know what else I noticed about it too?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I don't think it's got front sensors, like parking senses doesn't.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I don't think it has risk senses either. Nah, it's
got a camera, yeah, and that's about it.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah. The other day I was like, this car doesn't
have front parkers. That's a screaming noise. Yeah, Oh that's
my key. What's her a handbag on the bottom. Oh
that's my wife. What's going on? Oh? Well, their fault,
not mine.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
No. The other day I was like, I'm going to
test this. This definitely doesn't have senses. And we're at
our house.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We've got one of those those gates, you know, that
electronically open with the driveway, and so I'm just kind
of like, before I do this, I'm just going to
give it a little bit of a Yeah. It definitely
doesn't give it a nudge. Yeah, yeah, definitely doesn't have
fucking senses.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
What I've learned from this is not to buy a
car from Gordy. Yes, it's going to be on the
second hand market very soon.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I'll let you know, to be honest with you, I'll
probably still keep it because I think I stand by
It still drives great, just choose up the fuel a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But yeah, I'm starting to shop around, start to shop around.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Maybe I could be looking at one of the cars
that we're sort of going to be talking about later on.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, go on. Oh, We'll just going to give you
a little bit of a sneak. Yeah, okay. Well I
drove the BYD Seal Performance oh wow, and I freaking
loved it. Interesting, I did. I really, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The problem, which we'll get into, but the problem with
a lot of these cheap performance evs, and I mean
seventy thousand dollars is not you know, but it's not
exactly MGX power.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Cheap which is like what fifty.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They tend to drive fast, obviously in a straight line,
and then the handling on them is just generally rubbish.
This handles brilliantly. So well, it's such a smooth car.
And yeah, it's got the speed when you need it too.
It's tucked away there, so we'll talk about it later.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But get you some tissue paper for that gushing, just
to clean it up. What do you need? That's some
tissues for your gushing?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Jesus Christ. She just took that. Someone's been on Born
Harbor bit too much. God, something's front of mind. Hey,
some cars that have been dropping lately, the new lambou
Urus was it the s Yeah, top of my head?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
V eight hybrid?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, interesting, I'm plugging hybrid now listen. Can we just
take one second before anything else? Is it just me
or a plug in? Hybrids just a bit shit in
terms of just a pain.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
In the ass.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So yes, yeah, well, especially when they're half a million
dollars and you're just adding weight to this thing. Know,
the vight engine is augmented by an electric motor, so
it adds one hundred and forty kilo. What's a power
four hundred and eighty new meters of talk. The problem
is that it's integrated into the eight speed auto, and
(18:33):
every car I've driven now that has a plug in
hybrid integrated into an eight speed automatic transmission hasn't been
great because unlike a Toyota hybrid, for example, where you
have a CVET or you know, it's not actually a CVT,
but something that's designed like a CVET, you're getting instant
talk because you're not waiting for this thing to figure
out which gear it needs to be in. When it's
(18:55):
integrated with the transmission, the electric motor doesn't do anything
until the transmission is in gear effectively, so when you
go to step on the throttle, there's still momentary ladag.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah. So I don't know. To me, yeah, it seems fine.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But they tend to and obviously haven't driven it, but
they tend to work better once you actually have an
electric motor that can operate independently of everything so that
you can actually get that initial surge of talk, and
then once the engine's ready to get then sort of
picks up the balance.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It just feels like it like to fill something up
with petrol and to plug it in as well.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just that alone on any car I just find just pointless.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, look, I think this will end up feeling a
bit like the BMWXM and that is just not a
great car.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like it's fast, yes, but it's just a bit complicated
and annoying to drive. So I understand why they're doing this.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Obviously the Volkswagen Group needs to move towards electrification. But
to me, I would just be buying a regular Urus.
And you know what, we actually have just filmed a
new drag racing series. We're filmed in regional Wa and
one of the cars we used was Anenorus perform Ante
that you can only buy if you've bought the CNSA
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SCV twelve. So that is all no plug in hybrid
stuff in that, and it is so much fun to drive,
so you don't need the plug in hybrid.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You know. It's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Know what else has dropped? Oh haal have been dropping
a few little bits and pieces. I know we've got
quite a few. Haveal fans? Have we have apparently who
listens to this podcast apparently.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Have a look at them, then huh, have a look
at them, then have a look at what the fans
look at them? Then Okay, the cars, I'll make the
jacks bro.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
What about that they've called it the havel wrapped there
you go. We should swap your wraptor out for a
havel rap.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I might have to one hundred and forty five kilometers
of electric range. Speaking of feathers, super cute not on
a half from Fee fee feather Neck. I don't know
that's a radio show here in Melbourne. This is me
just me doing the old play on words.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And why Melbourne? Is that because you're national?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now national guys, Brizzy, Sydney.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And min Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, Actually, you know what I noticed with our merch
drop that I decided to tease the people with we.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Went out of extra large very quick. Did Donna just
take them?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Donna took four and just sewed him into a bed sheets? Yes,
you don't want to know about Donna's bed sheets. We
should give her a call later. You should check in
with Donna latter.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think that's a good idea. I think that's a
great idea. We'll check in with Donal later. What else?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on the
Porsche McCarn ev because I remember seeing the press photos
when they dropped this. Press photos are an interesting I'd
love to talk to somebody who does press photos for
these car companies one day, because I feel like they
can make or break something like in terms of a
(22:10):
McCann or there's been so many cars where the BMWM two.
When I saw pictures of that, the press photos of that,
I thought it was the most hideous looking thing ever.
But then when you get in it and you see it,
and you know, when you actually see it in the flesh,
it looks so much better, like when you're standing in
front of it. But yeah, the mccarne v. I mean,
technically there shouldn't be too much difference styling wise, but
(22:33):
I thought it looked a little bit boring the way
Porsche announced this.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, look so I have the chance to drive it
in in France at the launch and okay, so let's
start with the styling. So it definitely looks good in person.
That's great, except if you get the taxi yellow color
they have, which looked pretty awful. The thing is with
this McCann, the McCann is fifty percent of Porsche's volume.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It saved Porsche, so they're.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Going to go and take the car that saved them
and the car that accounts for half of their sales,
and they're killing the internal combustion version. They've increased the
price significantly, so it now starts at one hundred and
thirty three plus on roads, and that is before you
even add one option to it. Started it under one
hundred Previously, the McCann Turbo, which was I think about
(23:26):
one hundred and thirty grand, is now one hundred and
ninety plus on roads.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So it is a huge step up.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And to me, I think that is their first mistake,
because you used to have someone who could stretch their
budget from let's say Q five to get a McCarn. Yes,
they get a Porsche, they get the whole experience.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Everything's great.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But now that person isn't just going to go, oh, well,
I'll just spend another forty grand.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't see how they didn't get that sort of
logic step. They will announce more so they're only launching
with McCarn four and McCarn Turbo will do an entry
level version, but that will probably still be well over
one hundred grand. In terms of the design itself. I
thought they were actually doing two versions this coupe sort
of looking one and then a standard one. This is
the only body style, so they're not actually doing a
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sort of standard looking one in terms of the way
that it drives. So starting off with the interior, it
is beautiful. It looks fantastic. This will be built in Germany,
so it's not like the kN that I drive last
which was where was that built in Slovenia. That thing
was a bit of a bit of a shit beriaky doors. Yeah,
it really wasn't very good. So this will be German built.
(24:35):
That will present volume issues because Germany is doing mccarne
v for the world, so it means that immediately I
can see this becoming a volume problem for Australia, which
is a smaller market.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So the interior is nice.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
There's a lot of customization options, so there's a lot
of stuff that you can pay to customize to make
it your own. So they really want to make this
quite a style statement.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I've seen you can definitely do the passenger side
display yep display, thing's pretty cool. A lot of money
for a cool little feature.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, they've replaced the operating system with Android Automotive OS,
so it gives them far better building blocks to work off.
So the skin looks similar to other Porsch products, but
beneath the skin it is a completely different operating system
to the last generation mccaun. In terms of the way
that it drives, the McCann turbo is now two point
four tons. That's heavy, so it is three hundred kilos
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heavier than a V eight kN It is bloody enormous.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It handles beautifully, yeah, does it Does it feel rigid
or does.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It feel like a Porsche?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Feels good, so, steering feel is fantastic, The breaks feel good.
It does the standard Porsche YV thing with a lot
of region handles well. The problem is though, that we
drive it on just sort of mountain roads. It's not
really the perfect place to be testing this car. The
real test will be when we get it back here
in Australia and we take it for a bit of
a more spirited drive and see what it's like on
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city streets. You can get up to twenty two inches.
In terms of the wheels, air suspension is available on
the four standard on the turbo rewill steering.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I wasn't a huge fan of that standard.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
On the turbo, it sort of just feels a bit
funny when you're sort of going a little bit quicker
with it. It is monumentally quick. It's like three point
three seconds to one hundred or something like that. With
the McCann turbo as I think it's over a thousand
meters of talk like it is. It is an absolute
monster of a thing. So they've got the fundamentals right there.
But to me, where this will fall apart is on price,
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because I just don't think a consumer that was spending
that much on a mccahn is really going to run
and dive into this, and perhaps that's what they're expecting,
and which is why they've increased the price, knowing they'll
get less volume.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, they're not going to be able to meet the
demand anyway. Really, I'm predicting they won't be able to
meet the demand anyway. Well, I'll tell you why I
reckon that. I don't know that there is that much demand.
So the reason why I say that, whenever we.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Publish a review, I'll know pretty quickly how popular it is,
and typically a car that sells well will get a
lot of views quickly. You could not pay people to
watch our McCann review and then I thought, that's really weird.
I then had to look globally at all the McCann
EV reviews, and some of them had barely any views.
(27:17):
Some of the biggest channels in the world had barely
any views. We saw the same thing with the only
five M which we'll talk about soon. So that tells
me that perhaps the demand they think is there isn't
actually there. So the time will come at the end
of the year when the cars are here, we'll see
how many they sell and how it sells compared to
the previous generation.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But yeah, it'll be interesting. If you are wanting a McCann.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That isn't the EV you have until the end of
May to order it because that's when they're closing their
order books for custom build vehicles. So if you do
want that, you need to get in before then otherwise
it's done.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Maybe I don't know performance evs. Maybe people are just
not ready for them yet. Look at the resale value
of the time.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Can't talk about a bargain, absolutely, ty can't.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So I think that if that's your if that's what's
coming for you by buying one of these, maybe you
don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Maybe we don't care about resell.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But to me, if I was buying a regular Portra
in the resol was typically pretty good, and now the
evs aren't very good.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh oh, did you see this, the Alpha Romeo Milano.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Ugly little turd box. It's what I think of that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Okay, moving on to a re vibe about it. Did
you see that to change the name? Oh, because it
was called junior or something.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, it is now junior because it's like champagne. You
can't call a bubbly wine champagne unless it is from
Champagne in France. Same with this, the Italian government, not
from Milano. Tallian said, well, because this is made somewhere else.
I don't know where it's made, you can't call it
the you can't call it the Milano. So it's now
(28:54):
called the Junior or whatever it is called the Manaro Manara.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's not from Manaro made. You can't fucking naman Manaro.
Shut up, Donna, we'll talk to you later. Come on, darling,
Alfa Romeo Junior. It's just such a stupid name. Stupid.
Well that suits because I think it looks stupid. But
they could have given it anything. They could have told anything.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Look, I think Alpha makes great cars are great looking cars,
especially the interiors.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But have you seen this? This is yeah, I'm looking
at it right now. Well, well let us know contact
at the Drivers Show dot com today you I.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Think I'm in Do you know what I think? I'm
easily just impressed today with everything. Usually i'm quite critical. Ah, yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Have a look at this thing.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
There's bits about it. I don't like that. Those lights
look a bit look a bit reno. Oh, I tell
you what looks great? Like really great. The fore Runner
is coming back.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, now that I'm excited about. Yes, that is really cool.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's really cool and it looks good too. I think
we'll get the typical the burksuits of Pokey. I saw
some videos coming to Australia. Oh shit, well it hasn't
been announced for Australia.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But yeah, that's that's a real disappointment.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
They, I mean, were what was that That was a
sort of a mid nineties car, a real kind of
coasty sort of surfers coupled.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I think they were called like a Toyota surf they and.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I think they were called a fore Runner as well. Well,
that was a variant or something like that. It was
like a tougher version of the Prato effectively, And yeah,
I think I think they look great.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yep, I think they look fantastic.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I think what they've what Toyota has been able to
achieve with this TNGA platform that this is built off,
is so cool. They've done such a good job with
just all these different variants and just giving them a
really unique vibe. I love the Toyota lettering on the dashboard.
They've got RB accessories. Yeah, blood bloody cool, I reckon.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, No, the front looks the front looks tough
and now just looks like a proper kind of go
anywhere little machine.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I really do hope they bring that that see to me,
that makes more sense like that bringing that out rather
than their the ev that they're just planted.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But we will see, we will see.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Hey, okay, so let's talk about the Naive.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So what a great car.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yes, So I had the chance to drive it at
Eastern Creek on the track.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It was incredible fun.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
And just recently I mentioned this before, we've we've launched
a new drag racing series and we hired an airport
in regional Western Australia and shout out to the locals
in Wildcatchum is.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That the is that the traditional name? I don't think so,
okay what you mean, but.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
That's how you wouldn't know what But anyway, so yeah,
we hired an airport there, had all of this emergency
services and stuff, and then borrowed a stack of cool
cars from from a friend of ours to do drag
racing in. And this ironic five N is a beast
like we genuinely when we started this series, we thought,
you know, look, it's probably not going to win, but
(32:12):
it'll look cool when it goes up against some of
these cars.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
And then when it started.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Beating most of these cars, I was like, oh, this is.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Going to look fake, This is gonna look staged like it.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Literally bett cars are worth over a million dollars across
the quarter mile, So.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And what is that on road? That's like one hundred
and ten thousand dollars plus plus on roads. Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's a let's call it a one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's one hundred and ten thousand dollars worth of supercar.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And yeah, and it's not even just that it goes
fast in a straight line. When we did our full
review of this at Lang Lang Lang. It's actually just
some of the features that it has so you can
control so much in so you've got everything from traditional
engine sounds and it does sound gimmicky, but when you
pair the traditional engine sounds with the gear shifting, it
(33:02):
just feels like a fast internal combustion car. Like it
will literally pulse gears. It will allay to downshift. It
does pulses on downshow do you do hear crackles and
pops anything, which I loved, which is really cool. You
can then adjust talk split. It's got a drift optimizer.
Probably the coolest part though, is the repeatability of the
drive train, So you can set it into a drag
(33:22):
mode or a just like you on Saturday, or you
can set it into a track mode and it will
keep the battery temperatures at optimum levels for those two tasks.
And even with launch control, you can set what kind
of grip level you have available and that will then
vary how hard it launchers.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
See that's some good tech, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Like for that sort of car, and you know you
can really deep dive and put some stuff on it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
How did you.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Find the drift function work. How did you find the
effectiveness of it?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, we were given the green light to cook a
set of tires, so it was fantastic fun. So I
spent hard an afternoon fucking around with that, and it
was fantastic. It is when you set it to one
hundred percent rear talk split and you switch everything off,
it is all entirely off, whereas with the EV six
GT when you're in drift mode it's not exactly off,
(34:15):
whereas with this it is entirely off. So the biggest
issue they had with that feature was actually limiting the
RPM on the motors, because what happens is once an
electric motor starts, once you lose traction, it will spin
up to twenty thousand rpm immediately and then it will
stay doing that and you can have a lot of
issues with so just as an example, if you do
(34:38):
set it to rewill drive, you get it into a
state where the rear tires have lost traction and it's
spinning at twenty thousand rpm. When you let out of
the throttle, because it's spinning so much, it takes a
while for it to slow down, and it could become
dangerous in the sense that the only way you could
stop the car is by standing on the brakes and
standing on them for like three seconds to slow the
rear wheels. So what they've done is some talk limiting
(35:00):
on the motor when it is in that in that mode,
so it means that when you do unleash on it,
well won't just go straight out. So they've done some
really clever stuff there that a lot of people don't
know is actually happening in the background. So from that
point of view, it's great, great driving position. Unfortunately manual seats,
and the reason they have that is because the electric
(35:21):
seat doesn't sit low enough, so they've gone with a
manual seat to have it sitting lower. Steering feels great,
the breaks are fantastic and it's repeatable as well. We
managed to get like one lap out of the Mustang
MARKEEEGT at the track.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
The what do you mean one lap?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It just started degrading, derating performance. It was a hot day,
granted then Model Wide Performance got three laps before the
breaks started cooking I think five in it ended up
doing seven laps continuous without any heat issues with the motor,
the brakes or anything.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So yeah, they've got some fantastic tech in there, and
to me, I just think that if you're going to
be buying a performance ev, this is the best of
the bunch. The issue that they've got now, though, is
what Tesla is doing with their pricing. So we mentioned
earlier that Tesla's dropping their prices. I mean, if you
can get a Model Wide Performance for eighty something grand,
(36:18):
that's thirty grand cheaper than an Ironic five Inn. Yeah,
it's not quite the same in terms of performance, So
it's not the same at all.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I think you're looking at two different cars almost to
be honest, but it's yeah grand.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, I drove a Model Y here. God, that thing
has some creaks and cracks in it. I forgot, like
it'd been a while since I'd driven a Model Y
and I was like, oh, I forgot how firm that was? Yes,
And at the time I was like, maybe it's just
my hemorrhoids playing up, but it was it's really I
(36:52):
was like, my brother in law bought that for like
eighty grand at the time, and I was like, he's
barely driven it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Barely.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I didn't look at it, but I know he's barely
driven this thing. He would have to have under five
thousand k's on it, and like the like it was
actually doing my head in the creeks and stuff that
I think come from that that roof the fact that
that glass roof must heat plastics or something that surrounds
it and things just kind of snap out of shape.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And but I was like, oh, nah, yeah, nah, a's
your model, while going yeah it's fine, but yeah, same thing.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It's the suspension is overly for is really uncomfortable, not
very nice to drive.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So hopefully they'll fix that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
But that's what I mean, and I think this ionic
five in. I think it's they've got the cred to
put this up with the grates now.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Absolutely, And part of the problem is what I mentioned before,
the review that we did didn't really go that great,
and I had to look globally again, none of the
reviews went too crazy. And if you have a look
at the availability of this car in Australia right now,
you can get anything basically for immediate delivery as in
any color.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Really yeah, so available for immediate delivery.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So I think that tells you that the demand perhaps
isn't there despite it being a fantastic car. So let's
see how it goes once we get this drag racing
series out where we're literally doing everything we've done. The
first video that will go live is the ON five
n up against a six cylinder which was a nine
to eleven GT three, a V eight which was a
(38:29):
G sixty three Brabus with a stage one versus a
V ten which was a hurricane sto versus a V
twelve which was an eight twelve competitory only, and that
was the first video. We then did another six videos
after that, including one which I'm so excited to see.
One of the mechanics that was down there helping us.
He owns an eighteen hundred horsepower HQ that runs on methanol,
(38:53):
so he trucked that down on the last.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
We've seen Donald drink some of that stuff. Sure neck
a bottle cookie, that's a cook one.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I had the by d C or Performance slightly different
car it has a flirted with.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Before, really enjoyed it, really enjoyed it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's such a it's if you compare that to a
Model three, I personally think it's almost it's pretty much
neck and neck. I think I think it's just now
apples and like which one do you prefer? Like, I
think looks wise, I think the Seal is a far
better looking car. I think stats wise, off the top
(39:34):
of my head, I think the Tesla Performance obviously has
some you know, quicker it could be slightly quicker.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
This is one hundred in about three point eight seconds.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
But the thing with a lot of these performance evs
is great in a straight line, but when it comes
to handling, they're absolute rubbish. This, on the other hand,
is not that this handle's great, like it's such a
well sort of tuned car. It's just it's it almost
feels like it's been tuned for Australian roads.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It drives great, it's.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Got the performance sort of tucked away there. It's not
overly in your face as well. Starling wise, I think
it looks far better than the Model three. I think
the interior actually looks better too. If you told me
like eighteen months ago the BYD interior. You know, remember
when we sat in the Atto three the dumbbells and
the water and the muscles and all that.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, and they're bringing out the Seal you really.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Soon or actually I don't know if I'm allowed to
say this, but I guess we can call it the
Sea Line six. They're bringing that out, which is the
four wheel drive version of this, which I think looks good.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
But I just love this Satan. I love it. It
was such a great commuting car too. Yeah, I think they.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Look fantastic performance wise, it's great fun. This is I mean,
when you do compare this to a Model three performance,
especially the new one. They've just launched very different cars.
This won't. This doesn't have repeatable perform mormans. It sort
of you hit it once and it's there. On handling front,
I think it's good, but it is let down by
some of those electronics. If you really start picking up.
(41:10):
It sort of just struggles a little bit with the
amount of power that it has. But that is all
something that they will eventually get better at when it
comes to tuning and all that sort of stuff. And
for the price just under seventy grand, it is significantly
cheaper than everything else on the market.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
So yeah, do you know the one thing the big
thing for me that I was a bit like, oh really,
but I think I've been told it's a software update.
It's not even a fault. It's actually deliberately there. I
left my dog in there and went into buttings and
the fucking thing was like the alarm was going off
left front and center. It's apparently you know that function
(41:46):
if you leave kids in the car, which is annoying too,
because I left Pops in the car when I went
to the casino for.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Five and he went on holidays.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, I left her at the airport only there
for four weeks. It was fine, But yeah, they've got
this alarm that sort of goes off.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Can that not be there?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Well, a lot of modern cars have the ability for
you to switch off the motion sensor insight.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Maybe I'll dig about take a Patty's Market. I'm sure
there's someone who can fix it. So some good stuff, some.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Good cars, exciting stuff. So yeah, we're going to have
to try and make this more regular.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
It's been quite.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Busy so yeah, I mean I've I've moved house, moved jobs.
You've been out of the job, shockingly homeless for quite somebody,
which is evident. You disgrace doing hand jobs as well.
You are doing hand jobs. So that's been that's been
your life issues, I guess. But I'm here for you
(42:43):
if you want to talk. That's what all the good
podcasts do now? Is talking about every three months?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Is? But yes, this will get more regular and some.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Exciting stuff on the horizon. You know what, you should
check in with Donna. You should give her a call.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Have you a number? You've saved it in your phone?
That hole in the wall, why don't you Why didn't
you put your phone? Allows on speaker phone?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Let me let me give her a tingle d D
D double D Donna. There she is, see if she answers?
Speaker 6 (43:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Gee, hang on, Darlan, hang on, Donna's killing Ben hang on. Oh,
but don't usually get up till one in the afternoon.
(43:36):
How are you, Dalan?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Good? How are you doing? Love?
Speaker 5 (43:40):
You haven't called me angels pabbly have you been?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah? Good? I haven't been out that way for a
little while. Last time kind of left me a little scarred,
so to speak.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
You've got a bloody come and visit Donnor in the caravan,
darl And you've got you remember having it there?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's near the Adelaide Glory And if you get.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
A little bit lost, you fucking follow the yellow.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Droupe bro that's will be just in. Have you been
has your n f ha's all that? Yeah? Good. I'd
love for you to meet my mate Gordy.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Sometimes he's sort of, you know, a bit lonely and
stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I listened to the podcast and he sounds surprisingly well high.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
Basic looking at their bloody n ft is the n
f T, the Sties.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
You're a girl, have some psy from fun Randed, Donna
Fight Darlin, Hey, well when he when are you going
to come over?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
The when are you gonna come to the garage? Look
a bloody review on Donna Philly Busy this year, I
might have to say, Gordy.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
Nah, Darling, I want you perfectly. I want you to
bring you to a roma and you can point to
my cup holder's head. I can do all sorts of
fucking features if I.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Go off like the bloody Yeah, you're batist dollar.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go. He sounds like
you're busy.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
Yeah, yeah, I've got to order him a bloody KOs
say you know, I really Boh God Jesus, when you
come over and we'll bloody have some k.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
And saying oh fuck. All this talk about a greasy box.
It reminds me I should have a bloody shell. I
want you to get out of Dallan to get up
and good good to you from.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Your eye dollar.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
You never ring me as much as you used to.
I've still got the charging station heat the while on me.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
The caravan behind Regel Norman, bloody, kick a can around.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You come, it's Don and Donna. Bye bye, Oh god,
it's good to touch base with her. Yeah, look at
you were pretty quiet during that. I thought you were well.
I thought, well, you have your pants off. You were
bloody half mask. He's bloody. All right, it's our pitching
a tent talking to Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
To catch up with her. So you will have to
catch up with her. I think you need a road trip. Yeah,
take a radio, take a little road trip out there.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
What do you mean radio rodeo rodeo?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Oh yeah, take the road, take over and put a
buck over ahead and hang onto the handles.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
So contact at the Drivers Show dot com today. You
if anyone who's actually still listening to this, Yeah, let
us know what you want us to delve into chat
about on a serious note, bev passed away.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those things. I mean,
we all we knew it was coming, obviously, and it
was the day that I didn't really expect it to
be so soon. But yeah, really sad, and.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I speak for both of us.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
She's a fascinating woman, a really kind, caring person, a
great family woman too, and yeah, really sorely missed.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Came into chat with us, though it was pretty unreal.
It was a fair hike as well as Yeah, Warren
die Way, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
She came out here, Warren die Way. In fact, like
I mean, that's that's the last interview she did. That's
that's I feel sorry for her in that respect because
I thought, well, she could do so much better than us,
and but it was the last interview she did, and
she didn't have to do that at all. Her state
wasn't tip top, and she made the effort to come
out and have a chat, and eternally grateful that she
(47:55):
did and that she also got to tell her story too,
because I think a lot of it is it is
about Peter and obviously the time she spent with Peter perfect,
you know, the great Peter Brock. And I think behind
all that, though, is a is a fascinating woman and
a brilliant, brilliant woman in all ways of life. And
so yeah, I'm proud that she got to tell her
(48:16):
story in her life story out there, and it's it's
sad for her passing and our you know, big love
goes out to all her family and ya, thanks for
thanks for ending the show on such a somber note.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Thanks for that. That's what you do really well, isn't
it just make things awkward? Now we have to Yeah,
I'm going to walk out of.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
This room and you'll probably call bloody Donna called Donna again,
just Peter the saime, Yeah, FaceTime scrite.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
It'll look like they've seen from a butcher's window by
an hour with Donna that had some dry hanging stage
or are you just happy to see me?
Speaker 4 (48:59):
All right?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Well, next time until they started, great, leave a review,
that would be great, and we'll do another merch drops.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Hold on, before we do, we've got to actually quickly
talk about the reviews because someone left one on there
that wasn't very complimential. Oh really, I haven't. I haven't
checked these out. So again it's it's never negative about me.
It's always.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
So.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
The latest one that we got was okay, so just
listen to the latest step. There's a one star one
and it was such a struggle to listen to due
to Gordy's terrible jokes and even worse takes.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Takes, I'll take somewhat.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I'll be surprised if this show lasts for much longer.
Paul can do better.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, look what's that on apples Twitch one two, one, eight,
and that's Twitch with a one for the eye. That's Twitch.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
I'm guessing that's what his fucking brain's doing right now,
because he's probably got some sort of condition.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
But we've got another one from v Steve I one,
here we go. Just listen to the latest shut up
moron between you two. Stop picking on travel long.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Just listen to the latest episode. And it was such
a straggle due to goodies, terrible jokes, and even worse takes.
I'll be surprised if this is a program that will
last much longer. Paul can do way. Bitter Poo is
(50:34):
my favorite care review. I love his program. He used
the Bitch Show on the YouTube and when I am
when I shop here in the home and I, oh, Jesus,
I fucking put again.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Retally it happened again.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Can you clean me up? Taking to get old twitchet,
get out of Twitch and tell you bitch.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Goodbye. Goodbye,
Well here we are finally. Good to see you, Gordon,
I don't believe you. Good to see you, Pavle, good
to see Are you being sponsored by that that dinosaur
brand with the walking stick?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, you wear that a lot. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
No, just did you just go into that store and
just buy a whole heap of ship and just go this?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'll do it just fits my beautiful body.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, your zeke, your your glistening pecks that wouldn't look
out of place on a yacht in the Mediterranean.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Guilty is charged speaking? Which I was there recently? Were you? Yeah?
Colus enough, I was in Nice. It was quite nice.
And where it is you've been sitting on that ever?
Come back? You want to?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You on some sort of boat surround by an electric boat.
Fat kind of European men with you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Know we Australian man. That was other murtoring journealists. No
Tremor was there. Yeah, that's it. It wouldn't be buoyant
with him on it. No, just kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, we were there for the porchum car launch, which
we'll talk about soon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But we're on an electric boat.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So this was basically a boat that runs a porschem
of carn motor and one hundred kilo what our battery?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And if you thought that electric cars were not great
for long distance driving, how about an electric boat which
we left the harbor with fifty percent literally fanged around
in this just outside nice for I reckon ten to
fifteen minutes maximum and it was down to twenty five
percent and he had to put it in range mode
to get hited back to the Oh god.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So it's funny when man at Carr manufacturers do boats.
Lamborghini's got a boat. Yeah, the Lambo Boat's call though. Yeah,
that is cool. That looks something straight out about man.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, one of my friends has two of them because
you can in one frames. But this, this Porsche boat
is it's more designed as a tender, so a little
bitch boat for a bigger boat. So I guess that
kind of makes sense, and it means you can every boat.
Harbor has three phase charging, so it's easy to charge it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But I love how someone thought water and electricity. That's
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Fucking do that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, wowe oh you know what, I you know what
I did have a cheeky crack at that bloody Toyota
b f z X whatever, the one that sounds like
Elon Musk's kid, but that one.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So you've been in this, right, you've been in this car.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I can't see the speeder. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I
don't know if that's just a mean thing. I think
it's a you thing, you and your weird shaped head.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I actually thought of that when when I sat in there,
I'm like, what's Paul talking about? Like the head's up
display looks all right. I think it sort of depends
on how you maneuver it. But it was such a
it's a confusing car that it's really confusing because it's
what it's Toyota's first EV and it's actually the one
I was in was top spec, well appointed, looks really
(02:59):
quite plush in the outside. I mean it's like Toyota
every now and then do this gimmecky sort of car design.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's eighty thousand dollars. That's my only issue with it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
If it was a cheap, cheerful forty to fifty k,
you kind of go, eh.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Eighty k. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'll tell you where it makes sense. It makes sense
in the entry level front will drive version. And the
reason that car I think, Like, to me, I don't
think it's an amazing ev but the market for them
is Toyota customers. So it's someone who drives a camera
that wants an electric car, and it is literally just
an electric camera.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You get into it and it's Toyota.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
There's buttons for everything, it does all the Toyota stuff
that you expect it to do. It's just very safe,
conservative Toyota. So to me it could actually do. Okay,
I personally wouldn't buy one. I don't think it has
the tech that I want out of it. I can't
see the speedo, which kind of important. But yeah, I
(03:58):
think that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'll be interested to see how it goes for them. Yeah.
Is it the same platform as that Subaru that they're
bringing out, Yes, the yeah Solterra yep.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think the only difference that that's going to have
is they'll rip out any interior that looks remotely interesting
and just dumb it down, because the sol Terra interior
shots were pretty plain. But yeah, look, I thought it
was a good car.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like it drives. I think it drives great.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I think it looks interesting, but the price tag blows
my mind, Like, especially in that market, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sure, what are you gonna buy? You're gonna buy.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You're spending eighty thousand dollars on something that you think
is quality, you know what I mean, it's a brand name.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Here's the biggest issue for them. Just when was it
three or four days ago? Tesla dropped their prices massively.
So let me quickly run through this because this is
going to be Toyota's biggest headache because.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Because now let me open this up. He's opening up
his ass. Guys, he's not talking about anything here. We
want said, just get rid of your shit all over
a car brand. Here we go, Okay, here we go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So Tesla has just dropped their prices again. And to
put it into context.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Model three now starts at fifty eight thousand, nine hundred dollars,
which is the cheapest it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Cheapest Tesla Model Y sixty nine hundred, which again is
the cheapest it's ever been for the price of or
similar price to that top spec BZ four X. You're
getting significantly more Tesla and you can even stretch to
a model wide performance for eighty two nine hundred. So
(05:44):
this is a huge price reduction. So if you compare
it to the peak, So it peaked to just after
Model Y came out at seventy two three hundred start price.
It's now sixty nine hundred, so twelve thousand dollars cheaper.
So Tesla is definitely trying to compete with its other
Chinese manufactured siblings, and the I guess the side effects
(06:06):
of that are going to be anyone that has gone
and bought any of these other evs that are now
significantly more expensive than the Tesla. The other thing that
that Tesla hasn't really thought maybe they have thought about
and they just don't care, is people that are trying
to now.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sell these because.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask with the Toyota,
because the depreciation on evs is terrible, but a Toyota
being a Toyota, they kind of hold their value, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And Toyota's selling a lot of these on leases. They're
not really trying to push a driveway price. They're trying
to push a lease that means they just take it
back at the end of it and then who knows
what they're going to do with it then. But the
interesting thing here is if you took out a novated
lease with a model y at its peak, your car
on a two year ovated lease is going to be
(06:53):
coming up for it's residual and balloon that for me
is forty three thousand dollars. So at the moment, if
your balloon is forty three thousand dollars and a brand
new one is sixty thousand dollars, you're going to be
on the second hand market at about between forty and
(07:14):
fifty grand. I just think, I don't know that a
lot of people are going to be buying these secondhand,
and that is going to push the price of them
down even more as people try and panic sell because
they want to meet their balloon payment. And if you
have a look at a lot of the instant offer
people on the internet. So at car Expert, we've got
an instant offer thing. Car Sales has an instant off
a thing. They're all offering high thirties for the model.
(07:38):
Why at the moment, wow, I just speak, it is
going to be grim. And that's why people who ran
into this novated least thing thinking oh well, I'll save
money on my tax and all this sort of stuff,
they're going to get the shock of their life when
it comes to the balloon payment and not being able
to sell the car for anywhere near the balloon payment
and then being under So if that is you, email
(07:59):
us contact at the Dryshow dot com today. What do
you think about Tesla taking you know, twelve grand off
the price of this thing that you bought that hasn't
changed at all.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Speaking of Tesla, what I saw drive around Sydney yesterday.
They decided to sneak in a cyber truck.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's a little bit cheeky and you know what they did,
just not not trying to get too much attention.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
They drove it to Bondai and parked a.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Bit park it parked at a Bondai and they did
park it at the shopping mall in Double Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now that whole area is quite affluent, and it looked
so out of it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Just there's something about the cyber truck, maybe because they
haven't been here, but you know what it is, It
looks so out of place in Australian roads.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It is it is. This is going to sound creepy,
but it is the guy that goes to the children's
playground in a trench coat. It's you. It has nothing
on underneath them open to his trench car. It's the
shock that is the most amazing compots.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You know what, This car is like a pedophile, That's
what it's like. This car's like a guy who owns
a trampoline but doesn't have kids, but.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's one of those people who just wants shock factor. Right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That is what the car is about, and that is
why it will be short lived in terms of its popularity,
because if you're the first to have one, everyone's like, oh, well,
look at this thing.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But I think it will end up being like the
what was the as Tech Pontiac Oh yeah, yeah, Pontiac Aztek,
the car out of Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It just looks like that, which at the time would
have been like, oh wow, I've got a Pontiac as tick.
It's look at me now. You look at and you're like, oh,
it's a Pontiac as Tech. I think that's what the
cyber truck is going to end up being, because I
think it looks cool now and cool in the sense
that it's different to everything else. I can't see it
being a longer term thing. It's in Australia, where people
were asking why is it in Australia, Right, It's probably
(09:54):
in Australia to test software and hardware. So they actually
brought out a model ess plaid played a little while back,
which we don't get here and we won't be getting here,
and they brought that out to do some testing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Typically, if they're testing.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
New cameras, for example, they want to check that it
works with our road signs, and they might roll those
cameras out into the Model three and the Model Y,
which we do get in Australia.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Interesting though, that they did that with a cyber truck.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, well, look at you get two things out of it. One,
you get to drive up interest. Tesla sales are declining
that they're having big issues as a company in terms
of hitting targets and selling cars. Second part is you know,
if you bring it around here, everyone wants to go
get a photo with it. And next to it, conveniently
is a Model three and a Model Y. So I
think they'll end up probably doing a bit of a
(10:39):
road show tour around the country with it just to
get that interest up.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But who does.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
There is a picture of it parked at Double Bay.
Oh god, just in my cyber truck trying to fight
a car park because I'm late for plarties.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh, I've got to meet up for cappuccinos with the girls.
Lander two. That is as a fat little bagger, isn't that. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I mean, look at it's right up against the curb
and it's sticking sticking out, so it's a big old thing.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Can't see it coming here? I just can't. Well, it
won't be coming here.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And I'll explain why they build it only in Texas
and currently they have a huge order bank in the
States for it. Their production is incredibly low like that.
They haven't figured out how to actually mass produce it yet,
so they're going to be figuring out the States for
quite some time before they even look at anything.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
In right hand drive. What is that? That's a hememache
on the back of a I know why you're sitting
at a patrol Yeah, this and via patrol Warrior. That's
just because you can want to know anyway. Anyway, the
key ut right? What is it called the Tasman or
(11:48):
some Tasman?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So the ad dropped, which we forgot to talk about,
but I'll bring it up now. I think everyone I
think it's some bloody clever advertising. I think it's it's
fantastics x Yeah, it's really well done. The problem is,
I'm not the sportiest bloke in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I didn't know who the fucking of them were. Ash Barji, Yeah,
it's like ash Barti. Is she the one that sailed
solo around the world? Which run?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
She?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It wasn't that the guy in anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So apparently they filmed that in Bondai at a pub. Yeah,
over a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
The Bondo pub. Yeah, it was filmed in Bondo Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
But I was actually asking someone about this. I thought,
this is an expensive ad. If you have to get
that many celebrities.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Please wend All Sailor's in it. That's his first gig
in quite sometimes who that is? But I was at
the Sailor the one that went around Yeah probably.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So yeah, And apparently what happened was they got a
couple of big names on board, and when the people
they approached her that the big names were on board,
they wanted to be involved as well, So it ended
up becoming a fomo thing. Yeah, they weren't all there
at the same time, but they look like they were.
So it's a clever campaign because this is a big
deal for Kea and if you look at Australia for
(13:08):
KEA where home of the Australian Open. Obviously they're a
global sort of partner of that event, so Keia Global
spends a lot of money here, so that means that
KEA Australia benefits from the advertising, the cars that they
have to buy to run the event, et cetera. And
the ute is going to be we will probably be
the primary market for that vehicle unless it goes to
the States as well, and they're putting a lot of
(13:30):
effort into right and handling tuning here. Australia has had
a lot of involvement in the development work for that car.
What we do know and we've just put a video
up on car Expit about this, we do know that
it won't have V six so it'll only be four cylinder.
There is an electric ute coming, but it may not
be coming to Australia, so that's due to be launched
next year.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Four cylinder. Could this be a hybrid, No, just diesel,
straight diesel.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Currently their only four cylinder diesel is like four hundred
and forty ut meters, so it is pretty piss week.
If they do want it to compete, it'll need to
be the or seventy to match Triton or five hundred
to match Ranger and high Lux, so that they're the
things that they have.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
To focus on. The design. I don't know if you've
seen it, but it's interesting looking. I don't hate it, Okay,
I don't hate it. I think it looks all right.
It looks good.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So we had our guy do some sort of renders
based on all of the spy photos we've had so far,
and this is what he's come up with.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, that's what do you think? It's just showed me
some Butcher's paper and crayon drawing geese. Your guy must
be really good. I like it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I think it looks good. The headlights yeah, vertical, yeah,
I think that. I think they're a little bit more
square on the real thing, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, this is this is the okay, look like right? Well, yeah,
I think it looks good. I think it looks good. Interesting. Well.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Most of the time, I'll shit on a car, literally
I did. I did want on yours on downstairs. Unfortunately
it wasn't actually yours tops car.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The key I'm excited for it. I'm excited. You know
what the care you could even be my new car.
Oh watch out you, you tray to you.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm getting a bit itchy. I'm getting a bit itchy.
I'm getting some new car fields.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm currently kind of going, I think of only.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean, I've really taken the out back to the
art back and beyond.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I mean it's dark. You would if it wouldn't run
out of fuel.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, you got to the edge of s We're still bloody,
averaging twelve twelve leaders per one hundred k's something weird.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do you know what else I noticed about it too?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I don't think it's got front sensors, like parking senses doesn't.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I don't think it has risk senses either. Nah, it's
got a camera, yeah, and that's about it.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah. The other day I was like, this car doesn't
have front parkers. That's a screaming noise. Yeah, Oh that's
my key. What's her a handbag on the bottom. Oh
that's my wife. What's going on? Oh? Well, their fault,
not mine.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
No. The other day I was like, I'm going to
test this. This definitely doesn't have senses. And we're at
our house.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We've got one of those those gates, you know, that
electronically open with the driveway, and so I'm just kind
of like, before I do this, I'm just going to
give it a little bit of a Yeah. It definitely
doesn't give it a nudge. Yeah, yeah, definitely doesn't have
fucking senses.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
What I've learned from this is not to buy a
car from Gordy. Yes, it's going to be on the
second hand market very soon.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I'll let you know, to be honest with you, I'll
probably still keep it because I think I stand by
It still drives great, just choose up the fuel a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But yeah, I'm starting to shop around, start to shop around.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Maybe I could be looking at one of the cars
that we're sort of going to be talking about later on.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, go on. Oh, We'll just going to give you
a little bit of a sneak. Yeah, okay. Well I
drove the BYD Seal Performance oh wow, and I freaking
loved it. Interesting, I did. I really, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The problem, which we'll get into, but the problem with
a lot of these cheap performance evs, and I mean
seventy thousand dollars is not you know, but it's not
exactly MGX power.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Cheap which is like what fifty.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They tend to drive fast, obviously in a straight line,
and then the handling on them is just generally rubbish.
This handles brilliantly. So well, it's such a smooth car.
And yeah, it's got the speed when you need it too.
It's tucked away there, so we'll talk about it later.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But get you some tissue paper for that gushing, just
to clean it up. What do you need? That's some
tissues for your gushing?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Jesus Christ. She just took that. Someone's been on Born
Harbor bit too much. God, something's front of mind. Hey,
some cars that have been dropping lately, the new lambou
Urus was it the s Yeah, top of my head?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
V eight hybrid?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, interesting, I'm plugging hybrid now listen. Can we just
take one second before anything else? Is it just me
or a plug in? Hybrids just a bit shit in
terms of just a pain.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
In the ass.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So yes, yeah, well, especially when they're half a million
dollars and you're just adding weight to this thing. Know,
the vight engine is augmented by an electric motor, so
it adds one hundred and forty kilo. What's a power
four hundred and eighty new meters of talk. The problem
is that it's integrated into the eight speed auto, and
(18:33):
every car I've driven now that has a plug in
hybrid integrated into an eight speed automatic transmission hasn't been
great because unlike a Toyota hybrid, for example, where you
have a CVET or you know, it's not actually a CVT,
but something that's designed like a CVET, you're getting instant
talk because you're not waiting for this thing to figure
out which gear it needs to be in. When it's
(18:55):
integrated with the transmission, the electric motor doesn't do anything
until the transmission is in gear effectively, so when you
go to step on the throttle, there's still momentary ladag.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah. So I don't know. To me, yeah, it seems fine.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
But they tend to and obviously haven't driven it, but
they tend to work better once you actually have an
electric motor that can operate independently of everything so that
you can actually get that initial surge of talk, and
then once the engine's ready to get then sort of
picks up the balance.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It just feels like it like to fill something up
with petrol and to plug it in as well.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Just that alone on any car I just find just pointless.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, look, I think this will end up feeling a
bit like the BMWXM and that is just not a
great car.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Like it's fast, yes, but it's just a bit complicated
and annoying to drive. So I understand why they're doing this.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Obviously the Volkswagen Group needs to move towards electrification. But
to me, I would just be buying a regular Urus.
And you know what, we actually have just filmed a
new drag racing series. We're filmed in regional Wa and
one of the cars we used was Anenorus perform Ante
that you can only buy if you've bought the CNSA
(20:07):
SCV twelve. So that is all no plug in hybrid
stuff in that, and it is so much fun to drive,
so you don't need the plug in hybrid.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You know. It's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Know what else has dropped? Oh haal have been dropping
a few little bits and pieces. I know we've got
quite a few. Haveal fans? Have we have apparently who
listens to this podcast apparently.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Have a look at them, then huh, have a look
at them, then have a look at what the fans
look at them? Then Okay, the cars, I'll make the
jacks bro.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
What about that they've called it the havel wrapped there
you go. We should swap your wraptor out for a
havel rap.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I might have to one hundred and forty five kilometers
of electric range. Speaking of feathers, super cute not on
a half from Fee fee feather Neck. I don't know
that's a radio show here in Melbourne. This is me
just me doing the old play on words.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And why Melbourne? Is that because you're national?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now national guys, Brizzy, Sydney.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And min Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, Actually, you know what I noticed with our merch
drop that I decided to tease the people with we.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Went out of extra large very quick. Did Donna just
take them?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Donna took four and just sewed him into a bed sheets? Yes,
you don't want to know about Donna's bed sheets. We
should give her a call later. You should check in
with Donna latter.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think that's a good idea. I think that's a
great idea. We'll check in with Donal later. What else?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on the
Porsche McCarn ev because I remember seeing the press photos
when they dropped this. Press photos are an interesting I'd
love to talk to somebody who does press photos for
these car companies one day, because I feel like they
can make or break something like in terms of a
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McCann or there's been so many cars where the BMWM two.
When I saw pictures of that, the press photos of that,
I thought it was the most hideous looking thing ever.
But then when you get in it and you see it,
and you know, when you actually see it in the flesh,
it looks so much better, like when you're standing in
front of it. But yeah, the mccarne v. I mean,
technically there shouldn't be too much difference styling wise, but
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I thought it looked a little bit boring the way
Porsche announced this.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, look so I have the chance to drive it
in in France at the launch and okay, so let's
start with the styling. So it definitely looks good in person.
That's great, except if you get the taxi yellow color
they have, which looked pretty awful. The thing is with
this McCann, the McCann is fifty percent of Porsche's volume.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It saved Porsche, so they're.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Going to go and take the car that saved them
and the car that accounts for half of their sales,
and they're killing the internal combustion version. They've increased the
price significantly, so it now starts at one hundred and
thirty three plus on roads, and that is before you
even add one option to it. Started it under one
hundred Previously, the McCann Turbo, which was I think about
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one hundred and thirty grand, is now one hundred and
ninety plus on roads.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
So it is a huge step up.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And to me, I think that is their first mistake,
because you used to have someone who could stretch their
budget from let's say Q five to get a McCarn. Yes,
they get a Porsche, they get the whole experience.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Everything's great.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But now that person isn't just going to go, oh, well,
I'll just spend another forty grand.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't see how they didn't get that sort of
logic step. They will announce more so they're only launching
with McCarn four and McCarn Turbo will do an entry
level version, but that will probably still be well over
one hundred grand. In terms of the design itself. I
thought they were actually doing two versions this coupe sort
of looking one and then a standard one. This is
the only body style, so they're not actually doing a
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sort of standard looking one in terms of the way
that it drives. So starting off with the interior, it
is beautiful. It looks fantastic. This will be built in Germany,
so it's not like the kN that I drive last
which was where was that built in Slovenia. That thing
was a bit of a bit of a shit beriaky doors. Yeah,
it really wasn't very good. So this will be German built.
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That will present volume issues because Germany is doing mccarne
v for the world, so it means that immediately I
can see this becoming a volume problem for Australia, which
is a smaller market.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So the interior is nice.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
There's a lot of customization options, so there's a lot
of stuff that you can pay to customize to make
it your own. So they really want to make this
quite a style statement.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I've seen you can definitely do the passenger side
display yep display, thing's pretty cool. A lot of money
for a cool little feature.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, they've replaced the operating system with Android Automotive OS,
so it gives them far better building blocks to work off.
So the skin looks similar to other Porsch products, but
beneath the skin it is a completely different operating system
to the last generation mccaun. In terms of the way
that it drives, the McCann turbo is now two point
four tons. That's heavy, so it is three hundred kilos
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heavier than a V eight kN It is bloody enormous.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It handles beautifully, yeah, does it Does it feel rigid
or does.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It feel like a Porsche?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Feels good, so, steering feel is fantastic, The breaks feel good.
It does the standard Porsche YV thing with a lot
of region handles well. The problem is though, that we
drive it on just sort of mountain roads. It's not
really the perfect place to be testing this car. The
real test will be when we get it back here
in Australia and we take it for a bit of
a more spirited drive and see what it's like on
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city streets. You can get up to twenty two inches.
In terms of the wheels, air suspension is available on
the four standard on the turbo rewill steering.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I wasn't a huge fan of that standard.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
On the turbo, it sort of just feels a bit
funny when you're sort of going a little bit quicker
with it. It is monumentally quick. It's like three point
three seconds to one hundred or something like that. With
the McCann turbo as I think it's over a thousand
meters of talk like it is. It is an absolute
monster of a thing. So they've got the fundamentals right there.
But to me, where this will fall apart is on price,
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because I just don't think a consumer that was spending
that much on a mccahn is really going to run
and dive into this, and perhaps that's what they're expecting,
and which is why they've increased the price, knowing they'll
get less volume.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, they're not going to be able to meet the
demand anyway. Really, I'm predicting they won't be able to
meet the demand anyway. Well, I'll tell you why I
reckon that. I don't know that there is that much demand.
So the reason why I say that, whenever we.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Publish a review, I'll know pretty quickly how popular it is,
and typically a car that sells well will get a
lot of views quickly. You could not pay people to
watch our McCann review and then I thought, that's really weird.
I then had to look globally at all the McCann
EV reviews, and some of them had barely any views.
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Some of the biggest channels in the world had barely
any views. We saw the same thing with the only
five M which we'll talk about soon. So that tells
me that perhaps the demand they think is there isn't
actually there. So the time will come at the end
of the year when the cars are here, we'll see
how many they sell and how it sells compared to
the previous generation.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But yeah, it'll be interesting. If you are wanting a McCann.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That isn't the EV you have until the end of
May to order it because that's when they're closing their
order books for custom build vehicles. So if you do
want that, you need to get in before then otherwise
it's done.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Maybe I don't know performance evs. Maybe people are just
not ready for them yet. Look at the resale value
of the time.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Can't talk about a bargain, absolutely, ty can't.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So I think that if that's your if that's what's
coming for you by buying one of these, maybe you
don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Maybe we don't care about resell.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But to me, if I was buying a regular Portra
in the resol was typically pretty good, and now the
evs aren't very good.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh oh, did you see this, the Alpha Romeo Milano.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Ugly little turd box. It's what I think of that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Okay, moving on to a re vibe about it. Did
you see that to change the name? Oh, because it
was called junior or something.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, it is now junior because it's like champagne. You
can't call a bubbly wine champagne unless it is from
Champagne in France. Same with this, the Italian government, not
from Milano. Tallian said, well, because this is made somewhere else.
I don't know where it's made, you can't call it
the you can't call it the Milano. So it's now
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called the Junior or whatever it is called the Manaro Manara.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's not from Manaro made. You can't fucking naman Manaro.
Shut up, Donna, we'll talk to you later. Come on, darling,
Alfa Romeo Junior. It's just such a stupid name. Stupid.
Well that suits because I think it looks stupid. But
they could have given it anything. They could have told anything.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Look, I think Alpha makes great cars are great looking cars,
especially the interiors.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But have you seen this? This is yeah, I'm looking
at it right now. Well, well let us know contact
at the Drivers Show dot com today you I.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Think I'm in Do you know what I think? I'm
easily just impressed today with everything. Usually i'm quite critical. Ah, yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Have a look at this thing.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
There's bits about it. I don't like that. Those lights
look a bit look a bit reno. Oh, I tell
you what looks great? Like really great. The fore Runner
is coming back.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, now that I'm excited about. Yes, that is really cool.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's really cool and it looks good too. I think
we'll get the typical the burksuits of Pokey. I saw
some videos coming to Australia. Oh shit, well it hasn't
been announced for Australia.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But yeah, that's that's a real disappointment.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
They, I mean, were what was that That was a
sort of a mid nineties car, a real kind of
coasty sort of surfers coupled.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I think they were called like a Toyota surf they and.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I think they were called a fore Runner as well. Well,
that was a variant or something like that. It was
like a tougher version of the Prato effectively, And yeah,
I think I think they look great.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yep, I think they look fantastic.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I think what they've what Toyota has been able to
achieve with this TNGA platform that this is built off,
is so cool. They've done such a good job with
just all these different variants and just giving them a
really unique vibe. I love the Toyota lettering on the dashboard.
They've got RB accessories. Yeah, blood bloody cool, I reckon.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, No, the front looks the front looks tough
and now just looks like a proper kind of go
anywhere little machine.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I really do hope they bring that that see to me,
that makes more sense like that bringing that out rather
than their the ev that they're just planted.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But we will see, we will see.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Hey, okay, so let's talk about the Naive.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So what a great car.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yes, So I had the chance to drive it at
Eastern Creek on the track.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It was incredible fun.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
And just recently I mentioned this before, we've we've launched
a new drag racing series and we hired an airport
in regional Western Australia and shout out to the locals
in Wildcatchum is.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That the is that the traditional name? I don't think so,
okay what you mean, but.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
That's how you wouldn't know what But anyway, so yeah,
we hired an airport there, had all of this emergency
services and stuff, and then borrowed a stack of cool
cars from from a friend of ours to do drag
racing in. And this ironic five N is a beast
like we genuinely when we started this series, we thought,
you know, look, it's probably not going to win, but
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it'll look cool when it goes up against some of
these cars.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
And then when it started.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Beating most of these cars, I was like, oh, this is.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Going to look fake, This is gonna look staged like it.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Literally bett cars are worth over a million dollars across
the quarter mile, So.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And what is that on road? That's like one hundred
and ten thousand dollars plus plus on roads. Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's a let's call it a one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's one hundred and ten thousand dollars worth of supercar.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And yeah, and it's not even just that it goes
fast in a straight line. When we did our full
review of this at Lang Lang Lang. It's actually just
some of the features that it has so you can
control so much in so you've got everything from traditional
engine sounds and it does sound gimmicky, but when you
pair the traditional engine sounds with the gear shifting, it
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just feels like a fast internal combustion car. Like it
will literally pulse gears. It will allay to downshift. It
does pulses on downshow do you do hear crackles and
pops anything, which I loved, which is really cool. You
can then adjust talk split. It's got a drift optimizer.
Probably the coolest part though, is the repeatability of the
drive train, So you can set it into a drag
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mode or a just like you on Saturday, or you
can set it into a track mode and it will
keep the battery temperatures at optimum levels for those two tasks.
And even with launch control, you can set what kind
of grip level you have available and that will then
vary how hard it launchers.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
See that's some good tech, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Like for that sort of car, and you know you
can really deep dive and put some stuff on it.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
How did you.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Find the drift function work. How did you find the
effectiveness of it?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, we were given the green light to cook a
set of tires, so it was fantastic fun. So I
spent hard an afternoon fucking around with that, and it
was fantastic. It is when you set it to one
hundred percent rear talk split and you switch everything off,
it is all entirely off, whereas with the EV six
GT when you're in drift mode it's not exactly off,
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whereas with this it is entirely off. So the biggest
issue they had with that feature was actually limiting the
RPM on the motors, because what happens is once an
electric motor starts, once you lose traction, it will spin
up to twenty thousand rpm immediately and then it will
stay doing that and you can have a lot of
issues with so just as an example, if you do
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set it to rewill drive, you get it into a
state where the rear tires have lost traction and it's
spinning at twenty thousand rpm. When you let out of
the throttle, because it's spinning so much, it takes a
while for it to slow down, and it could become
dangerous in the sense that the only way you could
stop the car is by standing on the brakes and
standing on them for like three seconds to slow the
rear wheels. So what they've done is some talk limiting
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on the motor when it is in that in that mode,
so it means that when you do unleash on it,
well won't just go straight out. So they've done some
really clever stuff there that a lot of people don't
know is actually happening in the background. So from that
point of view, it's great, great driving position. Unfortunately manual seats,
and the reason they have that is because the electric
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seat doesn't sit low enough, so they've gone with a
manual seat to have it sitting lower. Steering feels great,
the breaks are fantastic and it's repeatable as well. We
managed to get like one lap out of the Mustang
MARKEEEGT at the track.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
The what do you mean one lap?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It just started degrading, derating performance. It was a hot day,
granted then Model Wide Performance got three laps before the
breaks started cooking I think five in it ended up
doing seven laps continuous without any heat issues with the motor,
the brakes or anything.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So yeah, they've got some fantastic tech in there, and
to me, I just think that if you're going to
be buying a performance ev, this is the best of
the bunch. The issue that they've got now, though, is
what Tesla is doing with their pricing. So we mentioned
earlier that Tesla's dropping their prices. I mean, if you
can get a Model Wide Performance for eighty something grand,
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that's thirty grand cheaper than an Ironic five Inn. Yeah,
it's not quite the same in terms of performance, So
it's not the same at all.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I think you're looking at two different cars almost to
be honest, but it's yeah grand.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, I drove a Model Y here. God, that thing
has some creaks and cracks in it. I forgot, like
it'd been a while since I'd driven a Model Y
and I was like, oh, I forgot how firm that was? Yes,
And at the time I was like, maybe it's just
my hemorrhoids playing up, but it was it's really I
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was like, my brother in law bought that for like
eighty grand at the time, and I was like, he's
barely driven it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Barely.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I didn't look at it, but I know he's barely
driven this thing. He would have to have under five
thousand k's on it, and like the like it was
actually doing my head in the creeks and stuff that
I think come from that that roof the fact that
that glass roof must heat plastics or something that surrounds
it and things just kind of snap out of shape.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And but I was like, oh, nah, yeah, nah, a's
your model, while going yeah it's fine, but yeah, same thing.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It's the suspension is overly for is really uncomfortable, not
very nice to drive.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So hopefully they'll fix that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
But that's what I mean, and I think this ionic
five in. I think it's they've got the cred to
put this up with the grates now.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Absolutely, And part of the problem is what I mentioned before,
the review that we did didn't really go that great,
and I had to look globally again, none of the
reviews went too crazy. And if you have a look
at the availability of this car in Australia right now,
you can get anything basically for immediate delivery as in
any color.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Really yeah, so available for immediate delivery.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So I think that tells you that the demand perhaps
isn't there despite it being a fantastic car. So let's
see how it goes once we get this drag racing
series out where we're literally doing everything we've done. The
first video that will go live is the ON five
n up against a six cylinder which was a nine
to eleven GT three, a V eight which was a
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G sixty three Brabus with a stage one versus a
V ten which was a hurricane sto versus a V
twelve which was an eight twelve competitory only, and that
was the first video. We then did another six videos
after that, including one which I'm so excited to see.
One of the mechanics that was down there helping us.
He owns an eighteen hundred horsepower HQ that runs on methanol,
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so he trucked that down on the last.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
We've seen Donald drink some of that stuff. Sure neck
a bottle cookie, that's a cook one.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I had the by d C or Performance slightly different
car it has a flirted with.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Before, really enjoyed it, really enjoyed it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's such a it's if you compare that to a
Model three, I personally think it's almost it's pretty much
neck and neck. I think I think it's just now
apples and like which one do you prefer? Like, I
think looks wise, I think the Seal is a far
better looking car. I think stats wise, off the top
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of my head, I think the Tesla Performance obviously has
some you know, quicker it could be slightly quicker.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
This is one hundred in about three point eight seconds.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
But the thing with a lot of these performance evs
is great in a straight line, but when it comes
to handling, they're absolute rubbish. This, on the other hand,
is not that this handle's great, like it's such a
well sort of tuned car. It's just it's it almost
feels like it's been tuned for Australian roads.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It drives great, it's.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Got the performance sort of tucked away there. It's not
overly in your face as well. Starling wise, I think
it looks far better than the Model three. I think
the interior actually looks better too. If you told me
like eighteen months ago the BYD interior. You know, remember
when we sat in the Atto three the dumbbells and
the water and the muscles and all that.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, and they're bringing out the Seal you really.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Soon or actually I don't know if I'm allowed to
say this, but I guess we can call it the
Sea Line six. They're bringing that out, which is the
four wheel drive version of this, which I think looks good.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
But I just love this Satan. I love it. It
was such a great commuting car too. Yeah, I think they.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Look fantastic performance wise, it's great fun. This is I mean,
when you do compare this to a Model three performance,
especially the new one. They've just launched very different cars.
This won't. This doesn't have repeatable perform mormans. It sort
of you hit it once and it's there. On handling front,
I think it's good, but it is let down by
some of those electronics. If you really start picking up.
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It sort of just struggles a little bit with the
amount of power that it has. But that is all
something that they will eventually get better at when it
comes to tuning and all that sort of stuff. And
for the price just under seventy grand, it is significantly
cheaper than everything else on the market.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
So yeah, do you know the one thing the big
thing for me that I was a bit like, oh really,
but I think I've been told it's a software update.
It's not even a fault. It's actually deliberately there. I
left my dog in there and went into buttings and
the fucking thing was like the alarm was going off
left front and center. It's apparently you know that function
(41:46):
if you leave kids in the car, which is annoying too,
because I left Pops in the car when I went
to the casino for.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Five and he went on holidays.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, I left her at the airport only there
for four weeks. It was fine, But yeah, they've got
this alarm that sort of goes off.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Can that not be there?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Well, a lot of modern cars have the ability for
you to switch off the motion sensor insight.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Maybe I'll dig about take a Patty's Market. I'm sure
there's someone who can fix it. So some good stuff, some.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Good cars, exciting stuff. So yeah, we're going to have
to try and make this more regular.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
It's been quite.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Busy so yeah, I mean I've I've moved house, moved jobs.
You've been out of the job, shockingly homeless for quite somebody,
which is evident. You disgrace doing hand jobs as well.
You are doing hand jobs. So that's been that's been
your life issues, I guess. But I'm here for you
(42:43):
if you want to talk. That's what all the good
podcasts do now? Is talking about every three months?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Is? But yes, this will get more regular and some.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Exciting stuff on the horizon. You know what, you should
check in with Donna. You should give her a call.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Have you a number? You've saved it in your phone?
That hole in the wall, why don't you Why didn't
you put your phone? Allows on speaker phone?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Let me let me give her a tingle d D
D double D Donna. There she is, see if she answers?
Speaker 6 (43:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Gee, hang on, Darlan, hang on, Donna's killing Ben hang on. Oh,
but don't usually get up till one in the afternoon.
(43:36):
How are you, Dalan?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Good? How are you doing? Love?
Speaker 5 (43:40):
You haven't called me angels pabbly have you been?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah? Good? I haven't been out that way for a
little while. Last time kind of left me a little scarred,
so to speak.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
You've got a bloody come and visit Donnor in the caravan,
darl And you've got you remember having it there?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's near the Adelaide Glory And if you get.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
A little bit lost, you fucking follow the yellow.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Droupe bro that's will be just in. Have you been
has your n f ha's all that? Yeah? Good. I'd
love for you to meet my mate Gordy.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Sometimes he's sort of, you know, a bit lonely and
stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I listened to the podcast and he sounds surprisingly well high.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
Basic looking at their bloody n ft is the n
f T, the Sties.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
You're a girl, have some psy from fun Randed, Donna
Fight Darlin, Hey, well when he when are you going
to come over?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
The when are you gonna come to the garage? Look
a bloody review on Donna Philly Busy this year, I
might have to say, Gordy.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
Nah, Darling, I want you perfectly. I want you to
bring you to a roma and you can point to
my cup holder's head. I can do all sorts of
fucking features if I.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Go off like the bloody Yeah, you're batist dollar.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go. He sounds like
you're busy.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
Yeah, yeah, I've got to order him a bloody KOs
say you know, I really Boh God Jesus, when you
come over and we'll bloody have some k.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
And saying oh fuck. All this talk about a greasy box.
It reminds me I should have a bloody shell. I
want you to get out of Dallan to get up
and good good to you from.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Your eye dollar.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
You never ring me as much as you used to.
I've still got the charging station heat the while on me.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
The caravan behind Regel Norman, bloody, kick a can around.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You come, it's Don and Donna. Bye bye, Oh god,
it's good to touch base with her. Yeah, look at
you were pretty quiet during that. I thought you were well.
I thought, well, you have your pants off. You were
bloody half mask. He's bloody. All right, it's our pitching
a tent talking to Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
To catch up with her. So you will have to
catch up with her. I think you need a road trip. Yeah,
take a radio, take a little road trip out there.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
What do you mean radio rodeo rodeo?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Oh yeah, take the road, take over and put a
buck over ahead and hang onto the handles.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
So contact at the Drivers Show dot com today. You
if anyone who's actually still listening to this, Yeah, let
us know what you want us to delve into chat
about on a serious note, bev passed away.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those things. I mean,
we all we knew it was coming, obviously, and it
was the day that I didn't really expect it to
be so soon. But yeah, really sad, and.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I speak for both of us.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
She's a fascinating woman, a really kind, caring person, a
great family woman too, and yeah, really sorely missed.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Came into chat with us, though it was pretty unreal.
It was a fair hike as well as Yeah, Warren
die Way, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
She came out here, Warren die Way. In fact, like
I mean, that's that's the last interview she did. That's
that's I feel sorry for her in that respect because
I thought, well, she could do so much better than us,
and but it was the last interview she did, and
she didn't have to do that at all. Her state
wasn't tip top, and she made the effort to come
out and have a chat, and eternally grateful that she
(47:55):
did and that she also got to tell her story too,
because I think a lot of it is it is
about Peter and obviously the time she spent with Peter perfect,
you know, the great Peter Brock. And I think behind
all that, though, is a is a fascinating woman and
a brilliant, brilliant woman in all ways of life. And
so yeah, I'm proud that she got to tell her
(48:16):
story in her life story out there, and it's it's
sad for her passing and our you know, big love
goes out to all her family and ya, thanks for
thanks for ending the show on such a somber note.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Thanks for that. That's what you do really well, isn't
it just make things awkward? Now we have to Yeah,
I'm going to walk out of.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
This room and you'll probably call bloody Donna called Donna again,
just Peter the saime, Yeah, FaceTime scrite.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
It'll look like they've seen from a butcher's window by
an hour with Donna that had some dry hanging stage
or are you just happy to see me?
Speaker 4 (48:59):
All right?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Well, next time until they started, great, leave a review,
that would be great, and we'll do another merch drops.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Hold on, before we do, we've got to actually quickly
talk about the reviews because someone left one on there
that wasn't very complimential. Oh really, I haven't. I haven't
checked these out. So again it's it's never negative about me.
It's always.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
So.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
The latest one that we got was okay, so just
listen to the latest step. There's a one star one
and it was such a struggle to listen to due
to Gordy's terrible jokes and even worse takes.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Takes, I'll take somewhat.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I'll be surprised if this show lasts for much longer.
Paul can do better.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, look what's that on apples Twitch one two, one, eight,
and that's Twitch with a one for the eye. That's Twitch.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
I'm guessing that's what his fucking brain's doing right now,
because he's probably got some sort of condition.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
But we've got another one from v Steve I one,
here we go. Just listen to the latest shut up
moron between you two. Stop picking on travel long.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Just listen to the latest episode. And it was such
a straggle due to goodies, terrible jokes, and even worse takes.
I'll be surprised if this is a program that will
last much longer. Paul can do way. Bitter Poo is
(50:34):
my favorite care review. I love his program. He used
the Bitch Show on the YouTube and when I am
when I shop here in the home and I, oh, Jesus,
I fucking put again.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Retally it happened again.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Can you clean me up? Taking to get old twitchet,
get out of Twitch and tell you bitch.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Goodbye. Goodbye,
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