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November 12, 2025 33 mins

On this episode we check out the new Toyota LandCruiser FJ and find out whether it'll be coming to Australia. We also take a look at some bargain basement Tesla models that have launched in the US.

 

Donna calls in...again, and we also talk about the new Toyota HiLux which has just launched.

 

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Speaker 5 (01:40):
Have you been?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Have you hopped in anything interesting lately? Because here's my thing.
There is nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I I am not that excited by anything coming out
at the moment. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
So I'll be taking off for the Tokyo Motor Show
next week. Okay, so hopefully there's some exciting stuff going
on there. We're hopefully going to see the new high Lux.
We'll have some details on that soon. But I was
actually at gwm's tech day to David tech Day at
the proving ground and I had a chance to drive
a couple of interesting things. So part of what g

(02:13):
WM's doing in Australia, they've employed Rob Triviani, who's their
former who is the former ride and handling boss for Holden,
and he's been working furiously away and we obviously see
him at the proven ground when we're filming doing stuff.
And I finally had a chance to drive one of
his projects, which was a new sort of ride tune
for the H six plug in Hybrid.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
So he's the guy who's kind of responsible for tuning
these cars to Australian conditions and he's.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
Done a good job. It is fantastic. It's like night
and day in terms of the Chinese tune versus his tune.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
So what is this you're talking about?

Speaker 6 (02:44):
So it was the ride in handling tune for the
H six plug in Hybrid. So that's been available for
a little while in like a Coupei swoop back type trim,
but now it's like the normal suv shape.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh yeah, the Age six Yeah yeah, yeah, that's like
a GT version.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah, this is just the normal one. So it's still
zero to one hundred and like four point seven seconds.
We actually published a drag race where we drag race
the niss and Z the ad E S five e Vant.
One of our employees his WRXSTI and Tesla motte Y
and it was pretty impressive to see how quick it was.
But during the tech day, actually let us have a
drive of two things. One is the GWM Tank seven hundred.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I heard about this.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
This mean it's like a Rolls Royce like it's it's
basically a Rolls Royce that's off road capable, so air suspension,
front and rear, diff lock, center diff lock, plug in
hybrid with a twin turbo petrol V six and like
a thirty seven killer at our battery.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
So it is this.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Enormous package and inside it is high end luxury stuff.
It is an impressive thing. So they haven't confirmed it's
coming to Australia yet, but that car is about one
hundred thousand dollars in China, so if it did come
to Australia, we're talking about one hundred thousand dollars proposition.
Last time we're at the Shanghai Motor Show, they announced
they're doing a V eight. They're producing vight, so.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Still that it wasn't that on the tank three hundred though, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
But I think it was like a concept thing.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
I reckon they would stick it in the tank seven
hundred because it's due for a life cycle replacement.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
So exciting stuff there. There was also they want to.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Launch the Way brand in Australia and they had a
people mover and this thing was unreal. It's got in
the second row, you've got captain's chairs with massaging, reclined heating, cooling,
a big screen that flips down from the centa. You've
got three screens ahead of the driver. And this is
another like five seconds zero to one hundred car. It's
just amazing what is available in China that we don't

(04:34):
have in Australia. Because this is another car that's about
the sort of eighty thousand dollar mark, but equivalent Lexus
in the LM is like a two hundred and fifty
thousand dollar car. So to think that you can get this,
which is much faster, much more luxurious, I just think
that there's potential for some of these cars to sell
pretty impressively.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Remember when we got news of the BMW seven series,
and I remember when that came out, like the the
screen came out for the second row.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
We were like, holy shit, look at that. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Now, Nah, China are like, hold my bier did somebody
say massage, seeds and.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
A blow job to all we got you got.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Your covered daarlly?

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah, but yeah, and even by d they're bringing out the.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
One two, the Sea Lion. This is the thing. I've
lost track of all their cars.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
But the two that I'm interested in, the Denzas, the
B six and the B eight, I think they are.
They're basically like the Shark, but with front rear diff
locks and off road capable, so.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
There is It is really confusing.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Part of the reason, did you say the Shark is
now off road capable?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
No?

Speaker 6 (05:39):
No, no, but that's what it should have been. But this
is like the same sort of drive train, but with
actual stuff in it. Part of the reason I'm so
dressed up today is we did our upfronts, and the
upfront so were basically we pitched to advertisers to advertise
with us.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But you beg them for money. You hold out your
little hands and.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Please please give me a little bit of last. I'm
just a poor boy on YouTube pointing to the cup
holders with my girometer. I had to sleep with a
big fat woman in regional Victorian just.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
To fill up my electric car. Please, That's basically that.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
But part of the research that we did for the
Upfronts is looking at how many cars are on sale.
So at the moment, there are over four hundred models
available in Australia and that is just models. Each of
those models will have variants. There's potentially thousands of variants
on sale. You imagine how confusing it is for a
consumer when someone like BYD goes, oh, well, I've got

(06:40):
six new things coming. Then you got like thirty other
Chinese brands that are coming soon as well, half of
which you've never heard of. So it is becoming a
confusing space. And part of the thing I could see
in this room of advertisers is traditional car brands they're
getting a little bit concerned because it's not as easy
as just pulling the ad lever and spending more on

(07:01):
TV and doing all this sort of stuff. It's now
a case of well, people are now just looking at price.
That is one of the part of the research that
we did with Nielsen. It was like an interview of
a thousand people and one of the biggest drivers is
price and where the car is manufactured. We've done this
same survey over the past three years. Where the cars
manufactured is becoming less of a concern for most buyers.

(07:25):
So that's telling you that price is a factor. They
don't care where it's made, which means why would I
go and buy a Masda or a Toyota or.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Some other he's expensive and legacy brands. You know, I
think we're going to be a very interesting test case
because you look at the state of Australia with these
car brands coming in, thousands and thousands of them, and
we're already We'll talk about Toyota later on, but if
you look at a brand like Toyota, we're already pretty
We get a generous amount of different models, say, from

(07:54):
a lot of different brands.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
So you kind of look at us and right now
where we're.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
About to be engulfed by all these different brands, more
than probably most countries in the world. And it'll be
interesting to see watch this space in a couple of
years time to see how we perform. Yeah, I mean
at her market. Have a look at Mitsubishi.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
They've just replaced the Ax with Reno. Yeah, that's like
fifteen thousand dollars more expensive. So Mitsubishi used to be
about value and good warranty coverage.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
They've got any performance, like in terms of like they
were that's dead now. Yeah, they were.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Coming out with solid cars, but I mean the Trenton
just hasn't matched.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
And you look at this this Ax that they've launched
and it's outrageously overpriced. Yes it's got a warranty, but
it's just a reno basically.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Come on, it's got two tone. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
I just I'm just like, what do you stand for now?
Just another brand? You're not competing with anyone with that car.
So I just think we're going to see some of
these brands, legacy brands really starting to hurt. They're going
to really start deteriorating in terms of their offering and
how competitive they are because people just no longer give
a shit whether they're buying a Chinese car or not.
They just want value for money.

Speaker 8 (09:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Speaking of which value for money, you see Tesla's trimming
down their bits and pieces.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't hate it.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, look I get it, but also you're taking away
the coolest bits of the car just to make it cheaper.
Like I know, it's like useless, but I'm saying like, visually,
you've got a boring car to start with. You look
at say the light bar in the back that's gone. However,
I think I know the stalk has been there set.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
They've taken the screen out from the back, which is
the most useless feed. Yes, yeah, I agree with that,
but the roof is weird, so I could take or
leave the glass roof because it just makes the cabin
too hot.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
That they haven't figured that out.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yet and a lot of people will get like after
market shades for those.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Anyway, what they've done now is they've kept the glass
on the outside but put like a fishing roof inside.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
What the fuck? Why would you not just put.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
It reminds me of those sketchy shops where you're just like,
what's going on there? They put aluminum foil behind the
glass that.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I don't get. It's like, remove the glass that I'd
be happy with that there's no drama. Yeah, and then
the cloth seats.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
It's like, ah, come on, let's just take it easy
because you're removing the cooling seats, which is one of
the great things they actually added. So this isn't coming
to Australia. These cut price cars are just for the US.
Oh okay, but I think there is a price cut
on the horizon in Australia. I've been saying this for
a little while, but before their last sprint last quarter
they had three thousand dollars off Model three and Model Y.

(10:26):
They had further discounts on previous generation cars that were
in inventory, something like fourteen thousand dollars off. So I
think that we're going to see a further reduction in pricing,
which you know, I think is is just due to
the competition in the market. They can no longer move
the volume they are moving at the price that they're
moving it at. So I think we're going to see
reductions there as competition increases. And I'm all for it

(10:49):
because I want to buy it another model hy But
I'm certain, yeah, I'm certain there's a little reduction around
the corner. So it's going to hold out just a
little bit longer to see what happens closer to the
end of this quarter.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
And to pop my name down EV price drop. I
can't believe you're jumping back in.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Tesla EV price drops, right. I know there's one on
the Cherry the yng day insta, Oh my god, that's
what we haven't talked about.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
The Hynda Institut that didn't wasn't successful at the outrageous
price they launched it.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's forty three thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
That's so weird. That must be a mistake.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now under forty thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
But did you see the Ionic six. They virtually are yeah,
we will give.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
You money if you just come and take this away
from the dealership. But they're all twenty three cars.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
They've gone from seventy seven thousand, five hundred to under
fifty thousand with that one.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
That is importantly for anyone listening, that is any twenty
three car. It is you're driving a car with a
battery that has been sitting dormant effectively for the.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Past two or three years. And I don't know, I
love that. Well, those cars are brand new. It could
have been sitting there.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Yeah, it's not like someone's driving them and charging them. Well,
I don't think they're driving them and charging them frequently,
so I'd be concerned about it.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Would that be current?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
But yeah, would that be covered by some sort of
warrant to be a way of finding that stuff out?

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Sure it is, but a warranty, you know for a
battery is typically eight years.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I don't know. Poster two from sixty eight to fifty five.
The still expensive that's.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Gone from sixty to a far out forty seven thousand dollars.
The ID four by Volkswagen has gone from a sixty
five thousand dollar car.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
To sixty two. That's nothing tight ass.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I like that little in stuff, but it is it
is on the prices side. I think they're doing the
right thing by putting it under forty thousand. And I
also think the best one to get is the most
expensive one to get of that one, which was like
they kind of put this.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Roof rack thing on it. It's just a style for me.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
It's just like, look you look at the Addo one
and two. Yeah, I mean they are probably going to
be in the twenties. Yep, we're going to start in
the twenties. So why on earth would you pay almost
double that?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
And that'll sell a packet of those? How much is
the how much is the Model three now?

Speaker 6 (12:56):
I think it's fifty mid fifties plus on roads?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, starting see.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
I know, like the Ionic six, for instance, has a
lot of people going there.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I don't like that car.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I personally like love parts of it and hate parts
of it, But I mean that's now under fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
That's the thing.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
If you're not concerned about the way that it looks,
which is the reason it's not selling.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
It is a good value car at that.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
Which a great drive. It's a great dri drive. Yeah,
the infertainment system sucks a bit. It's a bit sort
of lag in crap. But if you need value for money,
you get the FBT exemption if you do it on
a Novate at least, so there's value to be happy.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Hmmm, what else were we going to talk about? Oh?

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yes, the FJ.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, the baby land Cruiser.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
This is interesting because it's been rumored for ages.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
And ages and do you know what can I ask you?
When they first dropped the designs of it, and we
know the popularity of the Toyota FJ here was huge.
When you saw the designs, did you think that was
a true FJ.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I thought it was a true FG that you're FJ
that your mother would love.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (14:05):
I just think it's a bit It should come with
a handbag.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're sad about it. It's
more of a baby land cruiser. But the thing is
about this car is yeah, I don't think they should
be calling it and linking it to the FJ. But yeah, interesting, small,
chunky four point six meters long. Am I right in
saying they've put a bloody old little.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Engine in that thing? Like it's four point seven Toyota.
It's like it's like a petrol from the HIGHLUKX. Yeah, yeah,
but it's was it also from that what's that one
that I saw in Bloody Thailands? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:36):
It dates back to the prehistoric ages A chap.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, it's from the chair.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
But it's an engine that you wouldn't wish upon your
worst enemy. And given this will be light, maybe it's
not that bad. But Toyota must have a stockpile of
millions of irrelevant engines because they just keep sticking them
in cars and rolling cars over with the two point
eight liter diesel, I mean, one hundred and twenty kilowats
of power two hundred and forty six meters of talk gutlet.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
But so is the Jymney. So this is all ye're
going to try and compete with.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
But it sort of stands in the line. I've got
that here, Jimney. What's that reno bloody feather duster thing?
Would you put this next to the tank three hundred?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
God?

Speaker 6 (15:13):
No, okay, tank three hundred is way bigger than this,
But okay, this is a lot more modern inside than
a Jimney.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, yes, oh god.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I was I'm trying to convince my wife for us
to get a Jymney. And I took her in and
I drove the auto, and I was like, hey, it's fine,
it's fine, but I'm like, I want the manual, like
I want.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
To strip back as like basic as you can get.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
So I took her and the kid in the manual
Jimney and she just said, I feel like this is unsafe.
Are we driving a tin can. I'm like, yes, we are.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Shut up.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, it doesn't do hills, but just be you know,
I won't do over about one hundred and ten hundred
and twenty on.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
The highway either.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
But yeah, this baby land Cruiser I keep calling it.
It's sort of roughly from what I can work out,
sort of sits between all Across and a RAV four size.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
It's not coming to Australia. We should probably point that out.
Australia has said at this stage it's not coming. They
might just pull the cat out of the bag at
some point. But Australia's got a unique issue because of
this Envers nonsense. They're having to basically trim back on
stuff that isn't electric and it means something like this,
which goes against all the hybrids they sell. They're just
not going to bother selling it because it'd have to

(16:24):
be expensive, doesn't help them meet any Envez targets, so
they just won't bring it.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
So is that truly the reason why?

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Because here's here's my thought. I looked at it and
I go, it's a part time forward drive. It's got
some sort of forward drive bits and pieces. It's got
like a real diff lock I think on it. It's
got some stuff. A lot of journals are coming out
going toyotas lying they're going to bring it out, and
I thought that would be such a peculiar lie to tell.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I mean, why would you bother?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, I kind of think we are. We do get
a lot of land cruisers here, we get all of.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Us them compete with anything, so it's not like you
announcing it. You're not going to sell rab falls all
of a sudden, which is typically why a car company
will hold back talking about a product which is why
Kias started talking about the Tasman two years ago, because
it doesn't compete with anything else they sell. This is
the same if it was coming, they would have just
said it's coming, so they might surprise us and say, hey,
we're bringing it, But ultimately it just goes against their

(17:17):
targets for envies.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Because they're kind of screwed. They sell a lot of
diesel cars.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
You look at their whole range, it is all diesels
and hybrids. So if you go to Hilux, Land Cruiser,
Prato seventy series, all diesel, you're offsetting it with some
hybrid products with.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
RAV four and the smaller vehicles.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
You can't then just come in and bring this which
doesn't really meet any of that objective for hybridization.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I also feel like maybe this could be a little
bit shit because because if they're not going to bring
in here, I mean, we get a lot of as
I said, we get a lot of different toyotas, we
get a lot of we get the bloody gr which
doesn't really get seen outside Japan. March. I kind of
feel like maybe they don't want to bring it here

(18:03):
because it's not as good as people want it to be.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Or it may not be as safe.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
If you look at the K cars they sell in Japan,
a lot of them, you can't really buy them here
because you hit anything, it would just completely collapse around you. Yeah,
so I wonder if this is more designed to compete
with Japanese market cars like K cars, where perhaps safety
is and as important.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Are you excited about an ev Ferrari Absolutely not, And
yeah it's weird.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
My colleague Elbows, who have had on the show before,
he was over at the reveal they did for the
battery system, and Ferrari made all of these claims about
how it's the most energy dance battery in the world,
and how it's the most power dense battery in the world,
and I kind of just ran some of the figures
they claim through GPT and from what I could tell,
China already sells stuff that's more energy dance, which confused me.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
With Ferrari, when they release a product, they try and
be the best at it where where it's you know,
you look at the SF ninety. It is unbelievably fast,
it goes around track, it does everything right.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
When they release a car, it's a supercar icon an electric.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Car, you have the ability to be outdone by a
Chinese car company, where the Chinese car company won't focus
as much on handling and we'll just have a car
that goes faster in a straight line.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
So what's Ferrari got been.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, they've got two motors, they've got two point five seconds,
and they've got a badge.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
But yeah, but it's like, okay, great fast in a
straight line. It's not going to handle particularly well because
it is very heavy. It's got one hundred and overwhell
over one hundred killow what our battery. So it's going
to handle like a bit of a dog because you
cannot make a car that heavy handle.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
So what is the point? And I just don't get
that part.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I think options are the end of the day. Would
they be under some sort of scrutiny with the European
emission targe.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, they are a little bit.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
But my understanding was that some of those lower volume
manufacturers are exempt. But there is a chance that pure
sung way you're moving into SUVs, that's pushing them up
through a volume threshold. But you look at the factory,
the factory, it's a bit of a masterpiece because You've
got this amazing production line for V twelves, You've got
the V six production line as well, but it is

(20:13):
all about internal combustion. You're now going to have to
roll out brand new factory, You're going to have to
roll out brand new architecture, brand new technology.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
The resale value of plug in hybrid Ferraris is absolutely shit.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
No one wants secondhand s F nine is secondhand two
nine sixers.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Just no one wants that sort of stuff.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
So I just fear that this type of thing, and
they're already setting it up. One of the stories that
Obols wrote was about how Ferrari wants to stop people
sort of selling production slots and reselling their cars for profit.
And I think they're saying that because a lot of
the cars they're producing today are just not reselling for
profit unless it's a super niche model that is just

(20:55):
internal combustion.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's interesting, you know, like we've got a lot cars
are now doing it, Like the portion of carn is
now ev that's.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
A well, that was a disaster diaster.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
The tour rag is is that on my own saying
that's discontinued and they're moving that to an ev A
lot of that sort of space has been taken up
by evs. I mean, it's kind of cool that people
have options now, but oh geez.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah, it's fine to have options, but don't take away
what people want.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, and I mean I keep saying this. If you
want to buy an EV, go buy an EV.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
But if I don't want to buy one or it
doesn't suit my lifestyle, don't force me to buy it.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
By forcing people to buy it.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
They resent this, and I really just I don't understand
the logic behind it. And you're already saying that a
lot of companies are backflipping on promises for going full
EV because they just don't have the customer base for it.
People just do not care and are not interested in
a lot of cases, I.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Want a bit social.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Recently went to a car event o, a Deuce slash
Mini event excellent Genesis. No, I don't have the Genesis.
Got the MG still the MG five s EV. Oh,
by the way, you want a quick update, I'm about
to hand that back. I've always been completely honest about

(22:12):
these that that's been a pretty good car.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like it's been.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I've raved on about the tech it's starts, some of
the tech. I've had to kind of go, hey, this guys, guys,
this one needs a bit of a look at, because
it's starting to revert back to being it never it
never was, but it's starting to kind of become very annoying.
It's starting to tell me like things like, hey, focus
on the road, focus on the road.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I'm like, I am looking straight ahead. I'm fine, there's
nothing wrong.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
And so I'm starting to turn stuff off, and I'm like, guys,
can It would be usually the sort of thing where
if I was bringing it in for a service, I'd go, can.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
We look at this because that's not accurate?

Speaker 5 (22:51):
But I can't figure it. That's the problem.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
And I actually, since we last spoke, I'd drive that car,
OKAYES five, and I found the safety stuff annoying.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Every single drive up. I'd set the custom that star
button to just turn it all.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Off, yes, which you can, which look, That's what I
enjoyed about it because you can.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
You can do that and like save it all so
when you just get in, you've got to just push
that button. It's all gone.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
But in terms of the other negatives, car play couldn't
it kept dropping out, I couldn't reacon it. It was so frustrating,
incredibly frustrating. But probably the biggest thing for me is
how inefficient it is. It uses so much power, like
it's averaging. When I had it, I did probably eight
hundred cars, did a lot of driving in it. I
was aver doing between eighteen and twenty one kill what

(23:34):
hours per hundred k's, which for a car with such
a small battery is absurdly inefficient. Positive though, it was
pleasant to drive, like it's real drive, it's sort of
it's got that fun factor to it. It's got room inside,
it's inoffensive to look at.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, interiors rolls out pretty well.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
How many cas are you getting out of a charge?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Probably about It's hard to say. I generally, as a
general rule, charge it once every two weeks, and I'm
by the way, I'm putting it on the bloody granny
charger like the thing in the wall, So I just
kind of know I'm barely going to use it on
a Sunday, use that day and a half to kind
of just fill the thing up. And look, it's getting
me around town easily without even thinking about it. It's

(24:14):
getting me to work and back, it's getting me out
to ride to pick up the kid and do groceries
and do all that sort of stuff out that way.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Like it's what is your average? Text it to me later,
So i'd be curious to see you look at it.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
And then the other thing I'm curious about as well,
is are you driving the a bigger battery version of
the small battery version.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's a good question. I feel like I'm driving. I know.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
When I charge it, it's weird because I'm like, oh,
I claimed that was saying for over four hundred kilometers,
like say, four hundred and twelve, and I think I'm
getting about three ninety yeap, three eighty three ninety yep,
So that's a bit how's it going, mate? But yeah,
look I get around Towner doing all the things I

(24:54):
need to do. I think it looks really good. I
think the interior has been good. I think all in all,
it's been a good car. It's just of late in
the last week or two, some of the electronics on
it are starting to play funny buggers.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
And usually it'd be something i'd take.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
In for a service, as I said, but I'm just like, hey, guys,
let's swap it around. So I think I'm getting the
QS which is a big eight seed or something. Yeah,
big ass car, so that'd be fun. And then summer drives.
Oh you know what I was thinking we should do?
We should do next episode. Let's do like the top
five fun best road trip fun summer cars. Let's just

(25:31):
get a bit, you know, went to my mini launch
through a cabrolelet.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, let's do that. What was there?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Tell me?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
It's basically there was. They've got an EV of the
Mini Cooper s and it's been given the Deuce kind
of treatment.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Which is a fashion brand.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And they do do motorcycles and stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You wouldn't know. You've really need to overhaul.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
I haven't ridden a fat boy before. Isn't is that
a motorcycle? I know you're quite fond of them.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
As a fat boy myself.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I can tell you right now, Jesus daughter wouldn't mind
to go in the bloody Mini if she could. She
actually sat around the mini and she literally engulfed me.
Have you heard from Donna lately?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
No? I haven't. Actually why not? She wasn't allowed back
into the KFC.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh really yeah? Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Through a piece of chicken at someone.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
I thought it was chicken, but I remember seeing her
at that time at the at the Hen's Night, she
literally had one entire bucket over each tit just don't
ask as she was keeping the chicken wall. I know
these finger looking good, that's for sure. Needed a couple
of refresher towels for that job.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I'm sorry, Matte. Can we just hold for a second,
just going to get this. Hello, this is Paul speaking.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I have a Kentucky in the box and family.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
We were literally just talking about you.

Speaker 8 (27:02):
I just got some fucking potato and gravy in me
belly button.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
I am jealous.

Speaker 8 (27:08):
Yeah, I wouldn't mind some of fucking potato and Pavely's
baby gravy and me belly button. That's for sure, Hetty,
as as her commercial.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Or grain doll.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
And it's time for Donna's Word of the day. Thanks
to Dobby. Thanks to Dobbie, Donna.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Each time we talk, you sound more and more like Gordon.
It's so weird.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
I don't send anything like that bloody puff to shut
up badly stoody offensive to poor old Donna. Now it's time.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
For Donna's words. You're on the second.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
I'm in the bloody k s a kitchen just looking
for some extra talents and the one of me tids
dropped on the deep right.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Oh Jesus cross, that's a sizzle.

Speaker 8 (28:04):
Are you ready for Donner's word of the day? Daland
Donna's word of the day is colors. Saam you know
the cal of Sam as in I've got a couple
of fighters of me, big jugs, call of Sam.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
That those sids.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Col of Sam?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
How does that mean? If you want some fighters of me?

Speaker 8 (28:37):
Flaps coliseum.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
That was Donna's word of the day.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Thanks to Donnor, Kebabs and stubby holders.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Thank you, thank you so much for Colly.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Stumping to hold your stubby.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Give your chubby. Call Donner, call I love.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Oh God, she's a hood, isn't she.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Jesus so wow, Donna?

Speaker 5 (29:09):
You didn't you didn't say you never speak up.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I didn't want to speak to Donna. She did? You
get her jokes? Not really? What was she on about?

Speaker 5 (29:19):
I don't know that she's all that bright?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Oh well, she's a she's a working girl. She's a
working girl. She's the mattress actress Hicky.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Go down under.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Oh yeah, are we still looking for a sponsor for
this program?

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
You believes Jesus. Whatever happened to it a midso why
they failed so badly? Wow? Jesus. Anyway, that was that
was a good shot. We should get out of here
and get some food.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, I'm bloody hungry.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
A bit of a fast app Yeah, bloody hell. We
were quick in and out. We were almost quick. Donna
likes it, doesn't she? Ever?

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, I'm going to be Japan next week for the
motor Show.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You should say goods for it? Yeah, and you are
saying to say, oh, donz.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Next time we chat, Well, we'll catch up about that.
And then I'm off to France and then a couple
of other things. So yeah, busy times, and then I'm
going to be going to check out the new Highlucks.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I have already checked it out, but can't talk about.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Oh is it impressive?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
It's a bit of a getting late. Unrelated to that, does.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
It have wireless Apple car play this time around? Turn
you for eighty thousand dollars?

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Couldn't tell you AnyWho? Yeah, let us know if you've
got any feedback. Do you absolutely hate this show?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I guess there's a few blame you.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
If I'm still a tip tip right, tip right, tip right,
someone said that was a tip right, good good good.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Podcast at the Drivers Show dot com dot au.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Let us know what you think, what you want us
to chat about?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Hey, you floating a little thought here, just talking out
loud with my boy, with my mate. Do you reckon
if we got like a cool Karlish car dealership somewhere,
do you reckon we could do an episode live from
there if we gave people enough notice. Yeah, I think so,
and you would be me and you and maybe we

(31:24):
could get like Cadoag's and fuck probably, I mean Trevor
will be there.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
He's the janitor of these sorts of places.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Do the it for us.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, he can chuck on, he goes. He can get
us to sit.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Down to talk and it's like no, no, I just
need you to run the CAFU.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, just just run the projected there, Trevor, Just sit
on that with your mate and just make sure the
fucking microphones are on.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Brain.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, No one wants to see your vacuum clean and
arrange today, Thank you, buddy. Jezus trimming Have you seen
him on the telly lately? You're fast becoming the fattest man.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
He's trimming down, he's looking all right.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
But but the irony is he's looking more like a
hobo every day.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
It's just that vibe.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Imagine if he just turns out one day just not
wearing shoes on set, I was just not wearing pants.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
That's Trevor. That's Trevor.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
But yeah, I reckon me. You Trevor will get cadoags.
Maybe we could get Stephanie Coombs along as well, you know,
have a bit of fun. Maybe we'll do a Christmas
episode cute. Yeah, it could be fun.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, I like it. So let's work on some stuff.
All right, good chat.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
We'll find it, like a Cherry dealership or something.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I was thinking something that represents all car brands. Maybe
we could do like a.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
Like a car city in Melbourne.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, we'll do it from Bloody Ring. Keep your eyes
open for a barg in car city. That's it. We
could do that.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
You know, there's one out here in Sydney that I
forget his name, but he's got he's got a mini
harbor Bridge. Yeah, just near his car dealership. But it's
out in the west. You think, oh, hey, we're just
under the harbor Bridge.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
No you're not.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
That just got the sculpture of it, not that that
not Big One, Big Boy.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah. Live Driver Show episode. If you want to see it,
email us let us know.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Would you come along because I think we probably you
want to have more than like ten people there?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Probably not really, Yeah, we probably want a couple. All right,
we're out. That's a quick cap. Love you.

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