December 10, 2024 • 16 mins
Can a high-stakes heist at Nakatomi Plaza redefine your idea of a Christmas movie? Tune in to hear our passionate argument as to why "Die Hard" is the ultimate yuletide film, complete with festive music, themes of brotherhood, and a miraculous showdown. Join us on the Dumb Cool, Weird Podcast as we pay homage to John McClane's raw and relatable heroism, contrasting his human vulnerabilities with the superhuman feats of other action legends like Stallone. We promise a delightful journey through the film's humorous layers, from Alan Rickman's charming villainy to the unforgettable buddy cop dynamic with Carl Winslow.
Our nostalgic trip doesn't stop there! We celebrate the film's unique mix of humor and action, examining its parody elements and appreciating Bruce Willis's standout performance. While laughing at Rickman's attempt at an American accent, we also marvel at the special effects that make "Die Hard" timeless. As we reminisce about the 1980s' cinematic charm, we wrap up with a teaser for our next classic review, potentially spotlighting "Christmas Vacation." Dive into our quirky insights as we uncover what makes these movies so deliciously dumb, cool, and weird—all packed into a concise 20-minute experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
dumb cool, weird podcast.
Welcome to the dumb cool, weirdpodcast.
And here we are, christmasagain and we did die hard.
And just before anybody saysanything, die hard is a
christmas movie, it is achristmas movie.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It has christmas music.
It talks about christmas themes, about friendship, brotherhood,
miracles.
I mean when Hans and his teamfinally got into that vault, it
was a Christmas miracle.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yep, santa was looking out, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way Carl Winslow and
John McClane are the best buddycops ever.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's truly remarkable .
You know you got Starsky andHutch, you have the guys from
Lethal Weapon, you have yeah,Riggs and Murtaugh.
Yep, and then you got these twoguys.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah no, these two guys are pretty solid.
I don't want to hear anotherdamn thing about the fact that
Die Hard is not a Christmasmovie.
It is a Christmas movie.
It ends with Christmas music.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yep, santa Claus is coming to town.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Let's just say Hans Gruber is on the naughty list
permanently.
Yep In hell.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So what would you say ?
You know, what about this moviedo you like the most?
I mean, let's kind of go into,like you know, like just like
small plot points.
I mean basically what thismovie is is cop comes to see his
family, his wife, out in LA.
He's a New York cop.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And then Eastern European terrorist group well,
former terrorist group turnedextreme heist kind of guys you
know, like like bank robbers,just pros at heists take over
the Nakatomi Plaza and startstaging a terrorist attack.
You know, it's all fun andgames, they're professionals,
but they have to rely on theterrorism to really make the win
(01:58):
.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What's interesting to me is how they just really just
don't give a damn.
I mean, they literally justshoot people on the spot, even
people who could potentially beuseful.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's crazy to me well, here's the thing, though.
Right, that's their plan.
Cause enough chaos so that theybring out the fbi.
Fbi cuts off all the power, sothen they can get all the
security measures knocked rightout.
Yep, and then, um you know,steal about 680 million dollars
in uh bonds.
Yeah, genius plan.
(02:28):
Worked out really well if johnmclean wasn't there, or if their
blonde sociopath's brotherwasn't killed, and then the
blonde sociopath wouldn't bejust hunting him down recklessly
with a very efficient weaponwell, it's probably really cheap
.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh, when they were shooting this movie, to just be
like literally one location thewhole time obviously they had
sets, you know, inside on thesound stage, but still it's
pretty funny I feel like a lotof on-set injuries were a
problem, though.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, you're saying that.
Yeah, I mean like with, uh, thefact that john mclean almost
falls down an elevator shaft.
You know just a lot of mean.
You know to really think aboutit.
John McClane got the shitkicked out of him.
That's what I like about myaction heroes.
I don't like my action heroesto just be purely invincible
like an Arnold Schwarzeneggertype.
I like to know that you knowthe bad guy still kicks the shit
(03:18):
out of my hero.
To know that my hero is, like,really human, that makes sense.
You were mentioning First Bloodwith Sylvester Stallone.
You know how he's just gettinghunted down.
He's still a powerhouse, buthe's getting the shit kicked out
of him.
Essentially, he's got a bunchof dudes he's got to fight.
John McLean's got a little less, but he's still really having
(03:41):
to deal with a lot.
He's got to think on his feet,His bare feet.
He's still really having todeal with a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I mean he's got to think on his feet, his bare feet
, yeah, bloody bare feet, losinga lot of blood.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Stepping into glass.
At no point did anyone everthink if we just throw this
hockey puck at him, maybe throwsome glass on the floor, he'd be
over.
They did it all in reverse.
They tried breaking all theglass first and then throwing
the hockey puck.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's one of those movies.
You know, I've never seen thismovie before.
My first time ever seeing it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's one of those.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, that was my first time, so it's like you
know.
It definitely has all theelements of parody, like pair it
from parodies I've seen before,especially South park.
You know like, oh, we'rerunning this show, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're not, I'm running this thing you know,
yeah, good old Craterface, thebest C-list actor since Chinese
Mullet man.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, always plays something like that, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, because, like they had the I can't actually
remember the name of the ChineseMullet man, but he is in pretty
much all Stallone's, bruceWillis's and Schwarzenegger's
movies, so he's just kind of astaple of 80s and 90s and early
2000s action.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, it's a great movie too, because we get to see
Alan Rickman versus BruceWillis, which is a treat.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, professor Snape , he really had to change his
life after he was a.
Well, first, it turns out, hewas an Eastern European
terrorist, then he was a, thenhe was a bank robber who
pretended to be a terrorist,then he became a death eater and
then he became a professor atHogwarts.
The timeline, unfortunately,for a principal in the Breakfast
(05:17):
Club is we could see why helost his job.
He was a very incompetentdeputy police chief.
He just kind of let the FBIturn off all the power.
He just really let theterrorists run loose.
Didn't really have muchcompetence on the job.
He might live a double life too.
That's always a possibility.
He's a principal during the day.
That's a really hard life tojuggle Principal by day, cop by
(05:42):
night, chief of police by nightno, deputy chief of police.
He's almost there.
But Jesus, that man gets likewhat?
Maybe an hour of sleep inbetween shifts.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, then we have Carl, who's trying to run the
Winslow house and family mattersand trying to fucking save this
tower.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, I like my theory where, after the Nakatomi
plaza incident, he's just likeyou know, maybe I should get a
fresh start in Chicago.
There's a lot of kids to shootthere and it won't be an
accident.
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, it's definitely one of those movies that you
really got to be in the mood for, but it's definitely really
good.
It's a good action movie andit's silly, it's ridiculous,
it's definitely over the top.
It's definitely not superrealistic in a lot of spots, but
you know, goddamn, it's fun towatch.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, but that's the thing, right, it's not that
realistic, but it's also not outof the ordinary.
It's not like fuckingSchwarzenegger running around on
a tropical island shooting guns.
Hip-firing of all things,Unlimited ammo, hip-firing yeah
it makes sense.
I mean, at least he ran out ofbullets in that one exchange.
Yeah, john McClane, you didn'teven know how many bullets he
(06:55):
had, but you knew it wasn't muchand he ran out of that ammo
real quick.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I mean really this whole movie is just, you
know, bruce Willis, as JohnMcClane just takes down all
these terrorists like one by one, and then the terrorists try to
think two steps ahead.
Where they try to blow up thetop, he blew out the bottom, and
then they try to get away withall these fucking bonds and
they're trying to slip away andthey slowly all start dropping
(07:19):
like flies.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, argyle also saved the day.
Livimo Driver beat up the otherblack guy that they had.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, their smart, nerdy black guy, which is
another stereotype in a lot ofthese movies.
Yeah, the nerdy guys.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Very 80s thing to have was the nerdy black guy
yeah, that was the thing whounderstood tech, and then
everyone else was kind ofretarded.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, just a little bit Just a little retarded.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I know you didn't bring me here for my good
charming looks or whatever thefuck he said Something.
Bring me here for my goodcharming looks or whatever the
fuck he said something like that.
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
All I know is alan rickman, being severely british,
playing an east german guy wasgreat yeah, it's, um, you know,
I gotta fully appreciate some ofthe effects they did in this
movie too.
I mean, oh yeah, pretty goodfor its time, you know.
And also seeing bruce williswith hair, that's.
That's definitely a treat too.
Yeah, and um, you know I likethat comparison, you, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And also seeing Bruce Willis with hair, that's
definitely a treat too.
Yeah, and you know, I like thatcomparison you made.
You know he looked likeHarrison Ford in Blade Runner.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, it's giving me the same kind of vibe, I guess,
except he was not as serious asDeckard was in Blade Runner.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, then again, that was a more serious movie.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of comedic elements to
this.
I mean just the fact that thebuddy cop element, especially
Him and Al, are just having thisconversation about why Al's
behind a desk while he'sbasically bleeding out, and
that's just silly dude, which Ithink is kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
When you think about it, you know like there's some
serious moments going on andthese guys are on an open
channel talking to each otherabout their life's personal
problems.
Yeah, and then fucking ellisdude, do you think alan
rickman's just sitting there?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
he's like, oh, oh fuck, he killed a kid, holy shit
yeah, he's like I'm a monster,but I'm not that much of a
monster.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I thought I was terrible, but you know, I've
never, I've never taken out akid and then how about alan
rickman doing that half-assAmerican accent?
Oh yeah, he went for theCalifornia guy like
businessman-out accent.
That was great.
It's funny.
It was so In character for MrRickman, Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But you know the thing is there is to this movie.
It's really a very simple moviefor the most part.
You know it's prettystraightforward.
I mean the plot's not thatdynamic, it's just fun.
It's just a fun movie to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I mean I'm so glad we didn't have to engage in
understanding John McClane'sdivorce.
Yeah, they kind of just.
That love story was prettysimple.
Though he comes out to LA sinceshe invites him, his wife sees
him, she's like damn, you know,I just can't get this dreamy
hunk of a man off my mind.
I hope he doesn't do anythingseverely masculine and
(09:58):
outlandish later.
It might make me moist.
I might invite him to the mainroom and not just the side guest
room.
Yup, and there we are, here weare, and at the end of the movie
he's just you know he's goinghome to fuck yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that him and Al got to see
each other, I'm glad that thefucking police deputy chief
wanted to fucking get debriefed.
And then they finally took outthe other fucking Fabio, large
blonde sociopath.
Fabio looking dude just toavenge his brother.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Let's mention that as well.
All of these guys looked likethey used to be supermodels or
worked in the modeling industry.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
One way or another, they either were the models or
the crew that was shooting themodels.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The two balding guys, chinese mullet man and the
really rough-looking German guywith the slicked-back ponytail,
the way older one.
Those two definitely werecameras.
Yeah, pretty much they workedbehind the camera.
They were like oh, we werenever too pretty to be in front
of the camera.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and then they weren't, and then they had to do
those.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, give me your tiger.
Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Christ, but that's you know.
Like I said, this movie, itbasically just takes place in
this building.
I mean, there's one scene atthe beginning where he's getting
off the plane from the airport,and we've seen a couple scenes
at their house, but really it'soutside the building, inside the
building.
That is the location for thisentire flick.
So let's talk about the dumb,cool and the weird, nick.
(11:33):
What was dumb about this movie?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Dumb.
You know what.
This one's actually kind ofhard because it was so well
executed, but I guess we'll gowith the the fact that the
deputy police chief is thedumbest character in this movie.
Yeah, he's just asking the thedumbest questions really yeah, I
love how he just repeatswhatever carl winslow says to
sound like he's in charge of thesituation.
(11:59):
You know, just like any officerwho is having a listen to an
enlisted guy in the military.
Yeah, just like, let me juststeal Carl Winslow's thunder
real quick so that I can soundlike I'm important.
Oh wait a minute, I'm makingbad decisions.
Like, just let the FBI turn offall the power.
I'm getting mad at John McClanefor stopping those other
(12:22):
Germans from using that rocketon our vehicles and troops,
basically.
So you know, I'm more mad aboutus being covered in glass.
Really, really was worriedabout all the wrong things.
I guess that's what abureaucrat is all about, you
know.
So that's why, I hate him.
I think he's dumb.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I thought it was really cool how you know,
talking about the cool part ofthis movie, I thought it was
really cool how a lot of thepractical effects, especially
the squibs those look prettyrealistic, great squib use in
this movie.
That was cool shit.
I also thought it was cool howthey utilized, you know, matte
paintings for the scenes wherethey were inside of the air
(13:02):
vents and stuff, Like when theywent into his wife's office and
you just kind of, and they hadthat you had that good backdrop
over there as the coke head istrying to exit the room and I
love how okay that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That was a funny scene, by the way when her boss
is like, yeah, you know, this isher husband, the police officer
from New York.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And John's, like you missed some Cool as shit.
So what's weird about thismovie?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hmm, I think I got it .
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I think you should go first, cause I might have to,
might have to think a little bitharder on that one.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So what I thought was really weird about this movie,
the the the most.
The weirdest thing was thatwhen they were, when he was
trying to call it in over theillegal radio and those, those
cops heard it and they heard allthe gunshots in the background
and all this other stuff.
They're like, well, what is hedoing?
It's, it's weird and you maycrank call, it's a crank call
(14:09):
and all this and it's just likedude, you heard gunshots in the
background and you, it's justlike so weird dude yeah, you
know what that that is.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I would say that is the weird one of the weirdest
things.
Because, first off, why wouldsomebody be making a crank call
from the Nakatomi Plaza?
They would probably get firedfor doing something like that.
Would, somebody really risktheir job working for this
amazing Japanese company, thisbig corporation from Japan.
You think they would risk theirjob making a crank call from an
(14:38):
office phone up there.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Or a radio.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That doesn't even make any sense yeah, that's one
of those weirdest part of themovie, along with, oh, another
weird one when the firedepartment is called off, right,
fire department would stillhave to show up and, you know,
check that alarm now.
Essentially they'd all becomehostages, but that would make
people realize like wait aminute, these guys just
(15:05):
disappeared on shift while doinga standard call, but they just
went away because somebody atthe office was like yeah, you
know, I'm sorry, it just goesoff every now and again.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They just take them for their word.
Dude, they take their word forit.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I guess people on the 80ies worked in the honor
system.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I guess so but that was diehard.
Diehard's a prettystraightforward movie, but it's
very good and it's it'sdefinitely a Christmas movie, an
excellent Christmas movie.
And, um, yeah, that's diehard.
So we're going to be doing, uh,a classic next week.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I hope you guys are ready.
It could be a Christmasvacation, as they say yes.
So yippee-ki-yay motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
We're out.
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And here we are, christmasagain and we did die hard.
And just before anybody saysanything, die hard is a
christmas movie, it is achristmas movie.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It has christmas music.
It talks about christmas themes, about friendship, brotherhood,
miracles.
I mean when Hans and his teamfinally got into that vault, it
was a Christmas miracle.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yep, santa was looking out, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way Carl Winslow and
John McClane are the best buddycops ever.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's truly remarkable .
You know you got Starsky andHutch, you have the guys from
Lethal Weapon, you have yeah,Riggs and Murtaugh.
Yep, and then you got these twoguys.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah no, these two guys are pretty solid.
I don't want to hear anotherdamn thing about the fact that
Die Hard is not a Christmasmovie.
It is a Christmas movie.
It ends with Christmas music.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yep, santa Claus is coming to town.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Let's just say Hans Gruber is on the naughty list
permanently.
Yep In hell.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So what would you say ?
You know, what about this moviedo you like the most?
I mean, let's kind of go into,like you know, like just like
small plot points.
I mean basically what thismovie is is cop comes to see his
family, his wife, out in LA.
He's a New York cop.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And then Eastern European terrorist group well,
former terrorist group turnedextreme heist kind of guys you
know, like like bank robbers,just pros at heists take over
the Nakatomi Plaza and startstaging a terrorist attack.
You know, it's all fun andgames, they're professionals,
but they have to rely on theterrorism to really make the win
(01:58):
.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What's interesting to me is how they just really just
don't give a damn.
I mean, they literally justshoot people on the spot, even
people who could potentially beuseful.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's crazy to me well, here's the thing, though.
Right, that's their plan.
Cause enough chaos so that theybring out the fbi.
Fbi cuts off all the power, sothen they can get all the
security measures knocked rightout.
Yep, and then, um you know,steal about 680 million dollars
in uh bonds.
Yeah, genius plan.
(02:28):
Worked out really well if johnmclean wasn't there, or if their
blonde sociopath's brotherwasn't killed, and then the
blonde sociopath wouldn't bejust hunting him down recklessly
with a very efficient weaponwell, it's probably really cheap
.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh, when they were shooting this movie, to just be
like literally one location thewhole time obviously they had
sets, you know, inside on thesound stage, but still it's
pretty funny I feel like a lotof on-set injuries were a
problem, though.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, you're saying that.
Yeah, I mean like with, uh, thefact that john mclean almost
falls down an elevator shaft.
You know just a lot of mean.
You know to really think aboutit.
John McClane got the shitkicked out of him.
That's what I like about myaction heroes.
I don't like my action heroesto just be purely invincible
like an Arnold Schwarzeneggertype.
I like to know that you knowthe bad guy still kicks the shit
(03:18):
out of my hero.
To know that my hero is, like,really human, that makes sense.
You were mentioning First Bloodwith Sylvester Stallone.
You know how he's just gettinghunted down.
He's still a powerhouse, buthe's getting the shit kicked out
of him.
Essentially, he's got a bunchof dudes he's got to fight.
John McLean's got a little less, but he's still really having
(03:41):
to deal with a lot.
He's got to think on his feet,His bare feet.
He's still really having todeal with a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I mean he's got to think on his feet, his bare feet
, yeah, bloody bare feet, losinga lot of blood.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Stepping into glass.
At no point did anyone everthink if we just throw this
hockey puck at him, maybe throwsome glass on the floor, he'd be
over.
They did it all in reverse.
They tried breaking all theglass first and then throwing
the hockey puck.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's one of those movies.
You know, I've never seen thismovie before.
My first time ever seeing it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's one of those.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, that was my first time, so it's like you
know.
It definitely has all theelements of parody, like pair it
from parodies I've seen before,especially South park.
You know like, oh, we'rerunning this show, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're not, I'm running this thing you know,
yeah, good old Craterface, thebest C-list actor since Chinese
Mullet man.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, always plays something like that, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, because, like they had the I can't actually
remember the name of the ChineseMullet man, but he is in pretty
much all Stallone's, bruceWillis's and Schwarzenegger's
movies, so he's just kind of astaple of 80s and 90s and early
2000s action.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, it's a great movie too, because we get to see
Alan Rickman versus BruceWillis, which is a treat.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, professor Snape , he really had to change his
life after he was a.
Well, first, it turns out, hewas an Eastern European
terrorist, then he was a, thenhe was a bank robber who
pretended to be a terrorist,then he became a death eater and
then he became a professor atHogwarts.
The timeline, unfortunately,for a principal in the Breakfast
(05:17):
Club is we could see why helost his job.
He was a very incompetentdeputy police chief.
He just kind of let the FBIturn off all the power.
He just really let theterrorists run loose.
Didn't really have muchcompetence on the job.
He might live a double life too.
That's always a possibility.
He's a principal during the day.
That's a really hard life tojuggle Principal by day, cop by
(05:42):
night, chief of police by nightno, deputy chief of police.
He's almost there.
But Jesus, that man gets likewhat?
Maybe an hour of sleep inbetween shifts.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, then we have Carl, who's trying to run the
Winslow house and family mattersand trying to fucking save this
tower.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, I like my theory where, after the Nakatomi
plaza incident, he's just likeyou know, maybe I should get a
fresh start in Chicago.
There's a lot of kids to shootthere and it won't be an
accident.
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, it's definitely one of those movies that you
really got to be in the mood for, but it's definitely really
good.
It's a good action movie andit's silly, it's ridiculous,
it's definitely over the top.
It's definitely not superrealistic in a lot of spots, but
you know, goddamn, it's fun towatch.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, but that's the thing, right, it's not that
realistic, but it's also not outof the ordinary.
It's not like fuckingSchwarzenegger running around on
a tropical island shooting guns.
Hip-firing of all things,Unlimited ammo, hip-firing yeah
it makes sense.
I mean, at least he ran out ofbullets in that one exchange.
Yeah, john McClane, you didn'teven know how many bullets he
(06:55):
had, but you knew it wasn't muchand he ran out of that ammo
real quick.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I mean really this whole movie is just, you
know, bruce Willis, as JohnMcClane just takes down all
these terrorists like one by one, and then the terrorists try to
think two steps ahead.
Where they try to blow up thetop, he blew out the bottom, and
then they try to get away withall these fucking bonds and
they're trying to slip away andthey slowly all start dropping
(07:19):
like flies.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, argyle also saved the day.
Livimo Driver beat up the otherblack guy that they had.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, their smart, nerdy black guy, which is
another stereotype in a lot ofthese movies.
Yeah, the nerdy guys.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Very 80s thing to have was the nerdy black guy
yeah, that was the thing whounderstood tech, and then
everyone else was kind ofretarded.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, just a little bit Just a little retarded.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I know you didn't bring me here for my good
charming looks or whatever thefuck he said Something.
Bring me here for my goodcharming looks or whatever the
fuck he said something like that.
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
All I know is alan rickman, being severely british,
playing an east german guy wasgreat yeah, it's, um, you know,
I gotta fully appreciate some ofthe effects they did in this
movie too.
I mean, oh yeah, pretty goodfor its time, you know.
And also seeing bruce williswith hair, that's.
That's definitely a treat too.
Yeah, and um, you know I likethat comparison, you, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And also seeing Bruce Willis with hair, that's
definitely a treat too.
Yeah, and you know, I like thatcomparison you made.
You know he looked likeHarrison Ford in Blade Runner.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, it's giving me the same kind of vibe, I guess,
except he was not as serious asDeckard was in Blade Runner.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, then again, that was a more serious movie.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of comedic elements to
this.
I mean just the fact that thebuddy cop element, especially
Him and Al, are just having thisconversation about why Al's
behind a desk while he'sbasically bleeding out, and
that's just silly dude, which Ithink is kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
When you think about it, you know like there's some
serious moments going on andthese guys are on an open
channel talking to each otherabout their life's personal
problems.
Yeah, and then fucking ellisdude, do you think alan
rickman's just sitting there?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
he's like, oh, oh fuck, he killed a kid, holy shit
yeah, he's like I'm a monster,but I'm not that much of a
monster.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I thought I was terrible, but you know, I've
never, I've never taken out akid and then how about alan
rickman doing that half-assAmerican accent?
Oh yeah, he went for theCalifornia guy like
businessman-out accent.
That was great.
It's funny.
It was so In character for MrRickman, Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But you know the thing is there is to this movie.
It's really a very simple moviefor the most part.
You know it's prettystraightforward.
I mean the plot's not thatdynamic, it's just fun.
It's just a fun movie to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I mean I'm so glad we didn't have to engage in
understanding John McClane'sdivorce.
Yeah, they kind of just.
That love story was prettysimple.
Though he comes out to LA sinceshe invites him, his wife sees
him, she's like damn, you know,I just can't get this dreamy
hunk of a man off my mind.
I hope he doesn't do anythingseverely masculine and
(09:58):
outlandish later.
It might make me moist.
I might invite him to the mainroom and not just the side guest
room.
Yup, and there we are, here weare, and at the end of the movie
he's just you know he's goinghome to fuck yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that him and Al got to see
each other, I'm glad that thefucking police deputy chief
wanted to fucking get debriefed.
And then they finally took outthe other fucking Fabio, large
blonde sociopath.
Fabio looking dude just toavenge his brother.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Let's mention that as well.
All of these guys looked likethey used to be supermodels or
worked in the modeling industry.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
One way or another, they either were the models or
the crew that was shooting themodels.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The two balding guys, chinese mullet man and the
really rough-looking German guywith the slicked-back ponytail,
the way older one.
Those two definitely werecameras.
Yeah, pretty much they workedbehind the camera.
They were like oh, we werenever too pretty to be in front
of the camera.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and then they weren't, and then they had to do
those.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, give me your tiger.
Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Christ, but that's you know.
Like I said, this movie, itbasically just takes place in
this building.
I mean, there's one scene atthe beginning where he's getting
off the plane from the airport,and we've seen a couple scenes
at their house, but really it'soutside the building, inside the
building.
That is the location for thisentire flick.
So let's talk about the dumb,cool and the weird, nick.
(11:33):
What was dumb about this movie?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Dumb.
You know what.
This one's actually kind ofhard because it was so well
executed, but I guess we'll gowith the the fact that the
deputy police chief is thedumbest character in this movie.
Yeah, he's just asking the thedumbest questions really yeah, I
love how he just repeatswhatever carl winslow says to
sound like he's in charge of thesituation.
(11:59):
You know, just like any officerwho is having a listen to an
enlisted guy in the military.
Yeah, just like, let me juststeal Carl Winslow's thunder
real quick so that I can soundlike I'm important.
Oh wait a minute, I'm makingbad decisions.
Like, just let the FBI turn offall the power.
I'm getting mad at John McClanefor stopping those other
(12:22):
Germans from using that rocketon our vehicles and troops,
basically.
So you know, I'm more mad aboutus being covered in glass.
Really, really was worriedabout all the wrong things.
I guess that's what abureaucrat is all about, you
know.
So that's why, I hate him.
I think he's dumb.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I thought it was really cool how you know,
talking about the cool part ofthis movie, I thought it was
really cool how a lot of thepractical effects, especially
the squibs those look prettyrealistic, great squib use in
this movie.
That was cool shit.
I also thought it was cool howthey utilized, you know, matte
paintings for the scenes wherethey were inside of the air
(13:02):
vents and stuff, Like when theywent into his wife's office and
you just kind of, and they hadthat you had that good backdrop
over there as the coke head istrying to exit the room and I
love how okay that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That was a funny scene, by the way when her boss
is like, yeah, you know, this isher husband, the police officer
from New York.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And John's, like you missed some Cool as shit.
So what's weird about thismovie?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hmm, I think I got it .
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I think you should go first, cause I might have to,
might have to think a little bitharder on that one.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So what I thought was really weird about this movie,
the the the most.
The weirdest thing was thatwhen they were, when he was
trying to call it in over theillegal radio and those, those
cops heard it and they heard allthe gunshots in the background
and all this other stuff.
They're like, well, what is hedoing?
It's, it's weird and you maycrank call, it's a crank call
(14:09):
and all this and it's just likedude, you heard gunshots in the
background and you, it's justlike so weird dude yeah, you
know what that that is.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I would say that is the weird one of the weirdest
things.
Because, first off, why wouldsomebody be making a crank call
from the Nakatomi Plaza?
They would probably get firedfor doing something like that.
Would, somebody really risktheir job working for this
amazing Japanese company, thisbig corporation from Japan.
You think they would risk theirjob making a crank call from an
(14:38):
office phone up there.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Or a radio.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That doesn't even make any sense yeah, that's one
of those weirdest part of themovie, along with, oh, another
weird one when the firedepartment is called off, right,
fire department would stillhave to show up and, you know,
check that alarm now.
Essentially they'd all becomehostages, but that would make
people realize like wait aminute, these guys just
(15:05):
disappeared on shift while doinga standard call, but they just
went away because somebody atthe office was like yeah, you
know, I'm sorry, it just goesoff every now and again.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They just take them for their word.
Dude, they take their word forit.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I guess people on the 80ies worked in the honor
system.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I guess so but that was diehard.
Diehard's a prettystraightforward movie, but it's
very good and it's it'sdefinitely a Christmas movie, an
excellent Christmas movie.
And, um, yeah, that's diehard.
So we're going to be doing, uh,a classic next week.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I hope you guys are ready.
It could be a Christmasvacation, as they say yes.
So yippee-ki-yay motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
We're out.
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