July 15, 2024 • 11 mins
Wes and Nick take on the third movie the Hercules: The Legendary Journeys Series. Ever wondered what happens when Hercules goes on a quest to restore fire to the world and ends up in the company of a back-flipping little girl working for Zeus? Brace yourselves for a rollercoaster of hilarity and nostalgia as we unravel the quirky and downright bizarre moments from "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys – Circle of Fire." From the over-the-top sound effects during fight scenes to a male witch whose heart is stored in a jar, we leave no stone unturned in dissecting this third film in the series starring Kevin Sorbo. And don't even get us started on Zeus' trickery landing Hercules in some seriously awkward situations with his fans.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
dumb cool, weird podcast.
Welcome to the dumb, cool,weird podcast.
We just watched the third moviein the hercules at legendary
journeys, kevin sorbo movies yep, yep and uh.
Circle of fire, circle of fire,yeah, it's a good one we get to
.
We get to see our homieprometheus and we have, we
(00:21):
finally get to see our homiePrometheus and we finally get to
figure out how Hercules got hiswife.
Yep, yep, that makes a lot moresense, yep, so, yeah, so this
is definitely an interestingfilm.
It's basically, you know, westill haven't seen Eolus for
like a couple movies.
Still, it's been a minute.
Yeah, I think the theory holdsup.
That you were saying is theywere just trying out different
(00:42):
characters before the TV series.
Yeah, the theory holds up thatyou were saying is they were
just trying out differentcharacters before the tv series.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, you know this one waspretty good.
I mean, it's basically where hegoes on a, you know, a journey
to try to save the everybody's.
Fires keep going out and, yeah,the fire sounds like snakes for
some reason, and it's going coldand they really up the sound
effects in this one with the,especially with the little girl.
(01:02):
Yeah, they really did it whenshe was doing all the flips and
when those guys came out tofight Hercules with their fists
Yep.
And then they made the samesound effects for the swords Yep
.
I mean they've really upped thegame in here.
I mean they find this littlegirl trapped in a cage.
She probably smells really bad,she has bad hygiene and she's
got flowers in her hair andshe's kicking around doing back
(01:25):
flips, front flips, side flipsand all kinds of dips and chicks
and all kinds of weird stuff.
Yeah, it really makes you thinkthat she was just Zeus, dressed
up like a little girl.
That's what we thought.
We thought that was actuallyZeus.
It turns out she actually justworks for Zeus.
Yeah, not actually Zeus.
Works for Zeus yeah, notactually Zeus.
But you know, basically tosummarize the entire movie, it's
(01:45):
literally fires go out.
Hercules must find fire.
He goes to Hera's temple.
Hera gets pissed off.
He beats the fuck out ofeverybody in the temple.
Yeah, he meets Deonera, hisfuture wife.
They go off on a littleadventure together.
They encounter Zeus.
Zeus is like don't go.
And then Zeus is really vaguethe whole time and then they end
(02:09):
up trying to find the path toget the fire Because after they
visit, by the way, after theyvisit our friend Prometheus.
He's like frozen and he's likeHercules is at you, go get the
fire, I'll free you.
No, no, just keep me here.
Bring a six pack when you comeback.
(02:31):
You know, it's weird, hercules'strength, this whole movie, like
when he fights that witch atthe beginning it's very
inconsistent.
Yeah, it's like really strongat one moment, but very weak
when fighting people.
Yeah, he fights like a witch.
Witch, it's a male witch and,um, basically impales him,
impales him, but he doesn't diebecause his heart's in a jar.
(02:51):
Jar, but you know, like we weretalking about, like you know,
the jar should have really, like, been protected a little bit
better than that.
Yeah, like, not on a sturdytable that could be like knocked
over and destroyed.
Yeah, I love how he grabs hischest and like you know, oh,
that's my weakness.
You know, after they knock overthe jar full of heart and
(03:11):
Hercules proceeds to still stabthe witch, yeah, in every other
place except his heart, yep, andthen the old woman that you
think is the actual witch endsup actually just being some hot
chick.
Some hot chick.
They got like her, you know,her youth taken from her.
But basically, going back towhere we were earlier, you know
basically Deonara, and you knowDeonara, whatever the fuck it is
(03:36):
, deonara and Panera, panera,yeah, they, basically they go on
this, this path of skulls, andthey run into.
They run into like some kind ofRock giant Tree monster thing,
and that was a bitch and a half,and turns out the little girl
knew it the whole time, and thenshe tricks him into going to
another path when you know thebridge is destroyed.
(03:59):
Yeah, the bridge is destroyed.
And you know Hercules almostdied and you know, like you were
saying, hercules' strength isinconsistent.
Yet again, yeah, he'sstruggling to shimmy across this
rope with a human being aroundhis neck, yep.
And then they end up going tothe place.
They end up going to this placewhere there's some fire left,
(04:20):
and they're right at the base ofthe mountain.
They're about to go up themountain.
They stay there for the nightand then Zeus uses Zeus trickery
to make Hercules think he'sfucking Dianera, when he's
really just fucking three of hisfans.
Yep, and uh, you know, that'salways fun.
And did he bust a nut, though?
Do you think before?
I think, I think, I think, Ithink he busted a nut.
(04:40):
Every one of those girls,because he did.
It looked like it took him alittle bit of time to actually
go put on his clothes, put onhis clothes and leave, yeah.
So then he goes up to themountain and, uh, zeus is up
there in the cave from the dreamat the very beginning that we
forgot to mention.
But that's okay, it's not thatimportant.
Um, kind of there it's, youknow, and zeus is like just
chilling, you know, and the onlythe thing that that's funny is
(05:02):
that is the mountain.
Though after zeus, after youknow, zeus shows up.
After hercules saves that onelady from the witch, he's like,
son, you should come with me,you know, to a mountain.
Yeah, gotta hide away, you know, I just go there to keep my
peace of mind, yep.
And Zeus finally gets fuckingstern with him and starts
throwing lightning bolts at him,trying to get him to stop.
And no point does he ever usethat power for any good?
(05:25):
No, he can totally save and fixeverything, but he just doesn't
.
Hercules almost dies becausesupposedly the ring of fire is
deadly to people who are Mortalsand immortals.
Yeah, it gets rid of yourimmortality.
Yeah, and I'm guessing he hadsome immortality, because he was
definitely weakened by it.
Now I don't think he's immortalanymore.
(05:47):
It's weird, though, but back tothe strength and consistency.
When he's grabbing Prometheus'torch.
He's struggling to take it off,but then he no problem chucks
it all the way back toPrometheus' house yeah, which is
really far away.
It has to be at least dozens ofmiles, at least, yeah and he
just tosses it across the worldand ends up in Prometheus' like
(06:10):
hell.
Yeah, I'm back, bitch.
Yep, he's back.
And yeah, we forgot to mentionhis satyr friend.
We originally went with Phil,but it's not phil, it's, uh,
some other guy, sharon, sharonor something.
Yeah, not an important name.
I was hoping for phil, and he'sa mortal satyr and he has human
kids with a human wife.
But no, no, half satyrs, no,half satyrs.
(06:33):
And, uh, basically, the firesupposedly cures his elm, and he
had a, you know, an infection,open wound, you know, back then
getting one of those pretty mucha death sentence, which is kind
of fucked up, because he hadthat wound.
He was gonna have to live withit for an eternity when he was
still immortal.
Yeah, it's like I live ineternity having this wound, or
(06:54):
do I get cured of it and becomehuman?
Yeah, by the way, he becomeshuman after he gets to the
circle of fire.
That's his mortality.
He's mortal now.
So do you think his wife misseshis goat penis?
I don't know, that's a goodquestion.
I would say, I mean, who knows?
Probably a little bit.
(07:14):
Yeah, probably misses that goatpenis a little bit.
I was like, I don't know, he'sjust got a regular human dick.
But she looked really excitedthat he was a human now.
Yeah, she's like, oh, thank God, we can finally go into town
without people thinking I'mfucking a monster.
Yep, and him and Dan, therethey kiss and that's the end of
the movie.
I mean, throughout the wholemovie they're like bickering
(07:37):
with each other and you're like,oh, just fuck, already you know
.
And then they do yeah, they doSomewhere after this movie,
somewhere like in between,because in the next movie, which
we're going to do a review onnext, is basically they have
three kids.
Yeah, hercules has a family.
Yeah, and Centaur manservant,yeah, which that's never
(07:57):
explained, by the way.
Yeah, they don't explain that.
I'm pretty sure Zeus fucked ahorse.
Yeah, that's probably where hecame from.
So what is dumb about this?
Oh, what's dumb is that youknow, zeus knew the whole time
and he could have done somethingand he didn't Again.
Yep, just chose not to do adamn thing.
Yep, didn't again.
(08:21):
Yep, just chose not to do adamn thing.
Yep, it's classic zeus man foryou.
Yeah, no, no, but it was dumb.
It was dumb, no.
What is, uh, what was cool aboutthis, this movie?
I think that what's cool aboutthis movie is it well, and
what's cool about these moviesin general is how it kind of
comes full circle where you knowthere's a lesson to be learned.
Like you know, diane Arrow islike constantly telling him.
It was like, how about you talkit out?
(08:43):
And eventually you knowHercules talks out with his dad
when he's trying to stop himfrom dad, and then you know
there's this commonunderstanding and there's a good
lesson here.
Like maybe you should like talkto you, like talk it out every
once in a while instead oftrying to punch your dad who
shoots lightning.
You know, I'll say, um, youknow, one of this is kind of
(09:06):
unrelated to the actual plot ofthe thing.
Dumb or cool, wise is, uh.
What I think is really reallycool about, uh, the like this
movie in particular is.
I like the set design for thesnow stuff.
I think it looks really cool.
Oh yeah, the snow, habitat andeverything was great.
Yeah, I think they did a reallygood job on it.
What I thought was dumb aboutthis movie is the major thing is
(09:28):
yeah, I kind of want to go backto the Zeus thing.
Literally, zeus could fix allof this in just two shakes of a
lamb's tail dude.
But he doesn't do it becausehe's a fucking asshole.
And this kind of goes into theweird portion here.
Zeus threatens Hera like thathe's going to haunt her forever
at the end and she just kind oflistens to him.
Yeah, but at no point does heever do that same thing, which
(09:49):
kind of makes it dumb.
Still, like that, he never juststands up to Hera.
I think what the weirdest partof this movie is that little kid
.
Yeah, that little kid really isweird.
Yeah, when she was doing theflips and shit, me and nick were
like like the first time we sawher, she goes, oh, I'm not
going to town.
She does like back flips andshe kicks the trees and stuff
and I'm just, and nick was justlike I'm, I've, I've seen
(10:12):
everything, I'm done, yeah, I'mdone.
It's's like, and that's why thewhole thing where you were
saying like this has got to beZeus.
That's the only reason thatheld up is like there's no way
that she's like this mortaldoing all these cheerleader
kicks and flips and shits.
Yep, turns out that Zeus wascoaching her or something.
I guess Zeus gave her somepowers or something.
I don't know.
We're never sure what Zeus isactually doing, but he's very
(10:35):
petty and cruel for some reason.
Yeah, we'll never really know,but that was Hercules and the
Circle of Fire, definitely goodto check out.
If you really want to know thebackstory of the TV show before
you actually watch it, I suggestwatching these.
This is the third, one of a fivemovie series.
Next time we're going to talkabout the one where he goes down
(10:56):
to the underworld.
I do think it's funny, though,that when they were when
Hercules was telling thosepeople not to sacrifice all
their food and that they shouldharvest it in case, you know,
they don't get the fire back howthey're like how about you go
like fight a minotaur orsomething and we're just like?
That's the fifth movie, dumbass, not the third.
Thanks for setting it up,though.
(11:16):
Yeah, it was actually kind offunny.
That actually was pretty funny.
That actually made me laugh howthey were just making fun of it
.
They're like, why don't youjust go save people or something
?
Yeah, why don't you go fight aminotaur or some shit?
Sure, and Hercules is like fine, just don't listen to me, I
guess.
Yeah, but that was that movie.
(11:38):
Nick, you want to sign us out?
Stay sexy, atlanta.
Thanks for checking out theDumb, cool, weird Podcast.
We're a movie podcast now, soMovie Monday is every Monday
about crappy movies from the20th century.
It's going to be great, folks.
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dumb cool, weird podcast.
Welcome to the dumb, cool,weird podcast.
We just watched the third moviein the hercules at legendary
journeys, kevin sorbo movies yep, yep and uh.
Circle of fire, circle of fire,yeah, it's a good one we get to
.
We get to see our homieprometheus and we have, we
(00:21):
finally get to see our homiePrometheus and we finally get to
figure out how Hercules got hiswife.
Yep, yep, that makes a lot moresense, yep, so, yeah, so this
is definitely an interestingfilm.
It's basically, you know, westill haven't seen Eolus for
like a couple movies.
Still, it's been a minute.
Yeah, I think the theory holdsup.
That you were saying is theywere just trying out different
(00:42):
characters before the TV series.
Yeah, the theory holds up thatyou were saying is they were
just trying out differentcharacters before the tv series.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, you know this one waspretty good.
I mean, it's basically where hegoes on a, you know, a journey
to try to save the everybody's.
Fires keep going out and, yeah,the fire sounds like snakes for
some reason, and it's going coldand they really up the sound
effects in this one with the,especially with the little girl.
(01:02):
Yeah, they really did it whenshe was doing all the flips and
when those guys came out tofight Hercules with their fists
Yep.
And then they made the samesound effects for the swords Yep
.
I mean they've really upped thegame in here.
I mean they find this littlegirl trapped in a cage.
She probably smells really bad,she has bad hygiene and she's
got flowers in her hair andshe's kicking around doing back
(01:25):
flips, front flips, side flipsand all kinds of dips and chicks
and all kinds of weird stuff.
Yeah, it really makes you thinkthat she was just Zeus, dressed
up like a little girl.
That's what we thought.
We thought that was actuallyZeus.
It turns out she actually justworks for Zeus.
Yeah, not actually Zeus.
Works for Zeus yeah, notactually Zeus.
But you know, basically tosummarize the entire movie, it's
(01:45):
literally fires go out.
Hercules must find fire.
He goes to Hera's temple.
Hera gets pissed off.
He beats the fuck out ofeverybody in the temple.
Yeah, he meets Deonera, hisfuture wife.
They go off on a littleadventure together.
They encounter Zeus.
Zeus is like don't go.
And then Zeus is really vaguethe whole time and then they end
(02:09):
up trying to find the path toget the fire Because after they
visit, by the way, after theyvisit our friend Prometheus.
He's like frozen and he's likeHercules is at you, go get the
fire, I'll free you.
No, no, just keep me here.
Bring a six pack when you comeback.
(02:31):
You know, it's weird, hercules'strength, this whole movie, like
when he fights that witch atthe beginning it's very
inconsistent.
Yeah, it's like really strongat one moment, but very weak
when fighting people.
Yeah, he fights like a witch.
Witch, it's a male witch and,um, basically impales him,
impales him, but he doesn't diebecause his heart's in a jar.
(02:51):
Jar, but you know, like we weretalking about, like you know,
the jar should have really, like, been protected a little bit
better than that.
Yeah, like, not on a sturdytable that could be like knocked
over and destroyed.
Yeah, I love how he grabs hischest and like you know, oh,
that's my weakness.
You know, after they knock overthe jar full of heart and
(03:11):
Hercules proceeds to still stabthe witch, yeah, in every other
place except his heart, yep, andthen the old woman that you
think is the actual witch endsup actually just being some hot
chick.
Some hot chick.
They got like her, you know,her youth taken from her.
But basically, going back towhere we were earlier, you know
basically Deonara, and you knowDeonara, whatever the fuck it is
(03:36):
, deonara and Panera, panera,yeah, they, basically they go on
this, this path of skulls, andthey run into.
They run into like some kind ofRock giant Tree monster thing,
and that was a bitch and a half,and turns out the little girl
knew it the whole time, and thenshe tricks him into going to
another path when you know thebridge is destroyed.
(03:59):
Yeah, the bridge is destroyed.
And you know Hercules almostdied and you know, like you were
saying, hercules' strength isinconsistent.
Yet again, yeah, he'sstruggling to shimmy across this
rope with a human being aroundhis neck, yep.
And then they end up going tothe place.
They end up going to this placewhere there's some fire left,
(04:20):
and they're right at the base ofthe mountain.
They're about to go up themountain.
They stay there for the nightand then Zeus uses Zeus trickery
to make Hercules think he'sfucking Dianera, when he's
really just fucking three of hisfans.
Yep, and uh, you know, that'salways fun.
And did he bust a nut, though?
Do you think before?
I think, I think, I think, Ithink he busted a nut.
(04:40):
Every one of those girls,because he did.
It looked like it took him alittle bit of time to actually
go put on his clothes, put onhis clothes and leave, yeah.
So then he goes up to themountain and, uh, zeus is up
there in the cave from the dreamat the very beginning that we
forgot to mention.
But that's okay, it's not thatimportant.
Um, kind of there it's, youknow, and zeus is like just
chilling, you know, and the onlythe thing that that's funny is
(05:02):
that is the mountain.
Though after zeus, after youknow, zeus shows up.
After hercules saves that onelady from the witch, he's like,
son, you should come with me,you know, to a mountain.
Yeah, gotta hide away, you know, I just go there to keep my
peace of mind, yep.
And Zeus finally gets fuckingstern with him and starts
throwing lightning bolts at him,trying to get him to stop.
And no point does he ever usethat power for any good?
(05:25):
No, he can totally save and fixeverything, but he just doesn't
.
Hercules almost dies becausesupposedly the ring of fire is
deadly to people who are Mortalsand immortals.
Yeah, it gets rid of yourimmortality.
Yeah, and I'm guessing he hadsome immortality, because he was
definitely weakened by it.
Now I don't think he's immortalanymore.
(05:47):
It's weird, though, but back tothe strength and consistency.
When he's grabbing Prometheus'torch.
He's struggling to take it off,but then he no problem chucks
it all the way back toPrometheus' house yeah, which is
really far away.
It has to be at least dozens ofmiles, at least, yeah and he
just tosses it across the worldand ends up in Prometheus' like
(06:10):
hell.
Yeah, I'm back, bitch.
Yep, he's back.
And yeah, we forgot to mentionhis satyr friend.
We originally went with Phil,but it's not phil, it's, uh,
some other guy, sharon, sharonor something.
Yeah, not an important name.
I was hoping for phil, and he'sa mortal satyr and he has human
kids with a human wife.
But no, no, half satyrs, no,half satyrs.
(06:33):
And, uh, basically, the firesupposedly cures his elm, and he
had a, you know, an infection,open wound, you know, back then
getting one of those pretty mucha death sentence, which is kind
of fucked up, because he hadthat wound.
He was gonna have to live withit for an eternity when he was
still immortal.
Yeah, it's like I live ineternity having this wound, or
(06:54):
do I get cured of it and becomehuman?
Yeah, by the way, he becomeshuman after he gets to the
circle of fire.
That's his mortality.
He's mortal now.
So do you think his wife misseshis goat penis?
I don't know, that's a goodquestion.
I would say, I mean, who knows?
Probably a little bit.
(07:14):
Yeah, probably misses that goatpenis a little bit.
I was like, I don't know, he'sjust got a regular human dick.
But she looked really excitedthat he was a human now.
Yeah, she's like, oh, thank God, we can finally go into town
without people thinking I'mfucking a monster.
Yep, and him and Dan, therethey kiss and that's the end of
the movie.
I mean, throughout the wholemovie they're like bickering
(07:37):
with each other and you're like,oh, just fuck, already you know
.
And then they do yeah, they doSomewhere after this movie,
somewhere like in between,because in the next movie, which
we're going to do a review onnext, is basically they have
three kids.
Yeah, hercules has a family.
Yeah, and Centaur manservant,yeah, which that's never
(07:57):
explained, by the way.
Yeah, they don't explain that.
I'm pretty sure Zeus fucked ahorse.
Yeah, that's probably where hecame from.
So what is dumb about this?
Oh, what's dumb is that youknow, zeus knew the whole time
and he could have done somethingand he didn't Again.
Yep, just chose not to do adamn thing.
Yep, didn't again.
(08:21):
Yep, just chose not to do adamn thing.
Yep, it's classic zeus man foryou.
Yeah, no, no, but it was dumb.
It was dumb, no.
What is, uh, what was cool aboutthis, this movie?
I think that what's cool aboutthis movie is it well, and
what's cool about these moviesin general is how it kind of
comes full circle where you knowthere's a lesson to be learned.
Like you know, diane Arrow islike constantly telling him.
It was like, how about you talkit out?
(08:43):
And eventually you knowHercules talks out with his dad
when he's trying to stop himfrom dad, and then you know
there's this commonunderstanding and there's a good
lesson here.
Like maybe you should like talkto you, like talk it out every
once in a while instead oftrying to punch your dad who
shoots lightning.
You know, I'll say, um, youknow, one of this is kind of
(09:06):
unrelated to the actual plot ofthe thing.
Dumb or cool, wise is, uh.
What I think is really reallycool about, uh, the like this
movie in particular is.
I like the set design for thesnow stuff.
I think it looks really cool.
Oh yeah, the snow, habitat andeverything was great.
Yeah, I think they did a reallygood job on it.
What I thought was dumb aboutthis movie is the major thing is
(09:28):
yeah, I kind of want to go backto the Zeus thing.
Literally, zeus could fix allof this in just two shakes of a
lamb's tail dude.
But he doesn't do it becausehe's a fucking asshole.
And this kind of goes into theweird portion here.
Zeus threatens Hera like thathe's going to haunt her forever
at the end and she just kind oflistens to him.
Yeah, but at no point does heever do that same thing, which
(09:49):
kind of makes it dumb.
Still, like that, he never juststands up to Hera.
I think what the weirdest partof this movie is that little kid
.
Yeah, that little kid really isweird.
Yeah, when she was doing theflips and shit, me and nick were
like like the first time we sawher, she goes, oh, I'm not
going to town.
She does like back flips andshe kicks the trees and stuff
and I'm just, and nick was justlike I'm, I've, I've seen
(10:12):
everything, I'm done, yeah, I'mdone.
It's's like, and that's why thewhole thing where you were
saying like this has got to beZeus.
That's the only reason thatheld up is like there's no way
that she's like this mortaldoing all these cheerleader
kicks and flips and shits.
Yep, turns out that Zeus wascoaching her or something.
I guess Zeus gave her somepowers or something.
I don't know.
We're never sure what Zeus isactually doing, but he's very
(10:35):
petty and cruel for some reason.
Yeah, we'll never really know,but that was Hercules and the
Circle of Fire, definitely goodto check out.
If you really want to know thebackstory of the TV show before
you actually watch it, I suggestwatching these.
This is the third, one of a fivemovie series.
Next time we're going to talkabout the one where he goes down
(10:56):
to the underworld.
I do think it's funny, though,that when they were when
Hercules was telling thosepeople not to sacrifice all
their food and that they shouldharvest it in case, you know,
they don't get the fire back howthey're like how about you go
like fight a minotaur orsomething and we're just like?
That's the fifth movie, dumbass, not the third.
Thanks for setting it up,though.
(11:16):
Yeah, it was actually kind offunny.
That actually was pretty funny.
That actually made me laugh howthey were just making fun of it
.
They're like, why don't youjust go save people or something
?
Yeah, why don't you go fight aminotaur or some shit?
Sure, and Hercules is like fine, just don't listen to me, I
guess.
Yeah, but that was that movie.
(11:38):
Nick, you want to sign us out?
Stay sexy, atlanta.
Thanks for checking out theDumb, cool, weird Podcast.
We're a movie podcast now, soMovie Monday is every Monday
about crappy movies from the20th century.
It's going to be great, folks.
I can't wait to show y'all.
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