July 22, 2024 • 8 mins
Wes and Nick moves into the 4th Hercules Film. What happens when Hercules encounters chaos, seduction, and a hellish hole all in one film? Prepare for a wild ride as we dissect "Hercules in the Underworld," the fourth installment in the Hercules series. From Hercules' brutal showdown with Eryx the Boxer to the bizarre subplot involving a professional wench sent to seduce our hero, we leave no stone unturned. Alongside a centaur farmhand and dark themes of assault, Hercules plunges into the underworld to save his wife. Expect hilarious critiques and witty insights as we navigate the film’s oddities and fragmented mythology.
But the fun doesn't stop there! We dive deep into the rich lore of the gods and Titans, focusing on the roles of Hades, Hera, and Zeus, while introducing another god and our first Titan. How do these mythical figures fit into the cinematic universe we've been exploring? As we wrap up our discussion, we can't help but look forward to the series finale, "The Minotaur," and its amusing foreshadowing. Don’t miss our Movie Monday series and remember to stay sexy, Atlanta! Thanks for tuning in to the Dumb, Cool, Weird Podcast!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
dumb, cool, weird podcast.
Next is the next movie in thehercules series.
It's number four.
Hercules and the underworld yesand uh.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We start off with eric's the boxer killing the
whole village in which a smallboy runs up to good old
hercules's home begging for help.
Hercules, as usual, shows upand tries to help the town, but
for some reason decides he wantsto keep holding back when
beating up Eryx the Boxer, whois like a seven-foot-tall
(00:33):
professional wrestler in reallife yeah, and Zeus is in the
background and he can help asusual, but instead he's like son
, come on, keep your left up andjab.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, almost like he thought he taught him how to do
that yeah, like you know, helike he fathered his son, or
something yeah something likethat.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah well, you know.
Anyways, hercules decides tolet go and then uh keeps
punching eric's a boxer in thedick and he lands on uh, he
lands on this thing, he impaleshimself Pretty badly and then
you cut to the next town over.
A giant hole from hell comes upbecause that's a thing, and
(01:14):
everybody gets devoured andeaten in that local town.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Fun times.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, what was it?
The village sends over this?
What was the woman's position?
She was like some kind of awench.
Well, they had a lot of wenchesback in those days.
Yeah, they had, like, I thinkshe was like a professional
wench that if she didn'tcomplete her job, and like
seducing Hercules to killhimself, that she would die too.
Well, yeah, well, yeah.
(01:41):
And then we had, you know, whenwe're getting the backstory of
Hercules, you know, enjoying hisfamily, we never figure out why
he has a centaur.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, because it never shows it in the circle of
fire why he has a centaur.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, Nessus just shows up as his farmhand in the
horse stable, Like what's hedoing?
Fucking the horse?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That was like like so odd.
Well, he was, you know, he cutover and he just kind of like
they're venturing off, and then,for some reason, you know, he
tries to rape Hercules's wifewhile she tries to warn him.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Got really dark, didn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, it did get, pretty dark.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, and eventually they finally make it to the
fucking village and he runs downthe hole after that blanket.
Oh yeah, by the way, uh, nessusbleeds all over this blanket
and it gives it it was, it gavehim all the mystical powers to,
like, put his killer blood allover it so that uh, through
harrah, so that he could, he cankill hercules in another
(02:40):
fashion.
Didn't work out very well, yeah, and uh, yeah, you know, in
hercules you, while he's almostgetting murdered by this fucking
blanket, decides.
You know, I'm just going to runto the hole and get this done
After Zeus goes on, this wholething of like.
I really can't tell you ifyou're mortal or not.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
How the fuck does he not know?
I thought he was all knowingGod.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
He doesn't have a very good track record of
knowing, right?
Yeah, he's just a not-knower.
Yeah, Well, you know.
And then Hercules goes intohell and he meets Charon.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Where he just roasts the shit out of him and doesn't
pay him.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, you gotta pay him a gold coin, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, and Hercules is like yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then he goes deeper into the underworld.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, because he was trying to help out Hades.
And then Hades is like yeah,your wife's here.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, that's how you entice him.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, and Hercules, you know, not really
understanding why you know, hasto make a deal with Hades, like
saying, hey, I'll get Cerberusback in line if you give me back
my wife.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Fair trade.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It was a fair trade.
But his uncle Hades was kind oflike A dick.
Well, he wasn't a dick, he waslike hey, man, I made these
rules for a reason.
They're already dead.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Can't bring them back .
You know it's funny Hera Zeusand Hades are the only gods we
see in these entire movies.
It's kind of crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, yeah, except the Titan.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, well, yeah, you see, Prometheus, prometheus,
yeah, that was the only.
Titan that we see other thanthat?
Yeah, because Titans aren'ttechnically gods.
They're more powerful than gods, or I don't know how does that
work.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think their power is matched.
Oh yeah, oh okay.
I think the gods were craftierand more mystical.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, so that's all we know.
We just know Prometheus, andthen three gods, and that's all
we see.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, and you know, the movie gave us another lesson
, because earlier in the moviehis wife was like oh try using
your words in kindness.
No wait, that was the she wench.
That was the she wench who didthat when guy burned, uh, his
mouth on some soup and startedterrorizing the bar oh yeah,
that's right that that didhappen.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So when does uh hercules run into those three
chicks?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
oh god, that was, uh, the three chicks.
Yeah, yeah, that was when hewas like he got into hell after
he uh, after he beat up I thinkhe was after he beat up all
those people he killed in theprevious movies yeah, including
the yeah Including the centaur.
Yeah, the center shows back upagain.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He's like oh, nice to see you again.
Hercules and all these otherpeople that he's killed show
back up.
And they're like yeah, we'regoing to fight you now.
And he's just like all right,whip your ass again.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I love it.
He's like you killed my mother.
He's like she was ugly, likethat was his excuse.
It was like she was ugly, so itkind of did the world a favor.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yep, and then he ends up going again Like I guess he
ends up fighting those threechicks.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, he ended up.
I think that was like before heran into everybody because he
was in like the zombie pit, yeah, zombie pit, yeah.
And that was before uh, nessus,uh sent him to the place where
his wife was hanging out, whereall the beautiful hot ladies
hang out in hell.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, and she couldn't remember anything.
I remember that her memory wasspotty.
At best she's like bitch.
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
yeah, and then he got kisses her and she's like, oh,
my god, hercules, where am I?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
yeah, and then her, and then, uh, haiti shows up hey
, he's like come on, man, Ican't let.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He's like how about I get Cerberus back?
Cerberus is being tracked by mybest hunters, who are just
getting their ass handed to themevery second of the way.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, then that's when we cut to Cerberus.
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, and Cerberus.
Those are some pretty goodeffects, though, for Cerberus.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, they really kicked up the budget on that
stuff, I can tell for some ofthese movies no.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then I mean Hercules used that lesson that
he learned in the bar use yourwords and kindness and he got
Cerberus back in chains.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean it was pretty much happily ever after after
that yep, and he gets his wifeback and they go back to being a
family again yeah so what wouldyou say?
Is um really dumb about thismovie?
Is it because we just didn'tknow where the fuck?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
yeah, he just didn't know where he came from.
This guy just lives in thehorse stable, yeah, like from
movie three, you know.
At least.
No, sorry, not movie three.
Yeah, movie three, you know, inthe circle of fire.
I've thought we would like, Ithought they would at least do
some kind of a segue if we'regoing to get that character.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Nothing.
Fourth movie yeah, that ispretty dumb.
I think the coolest stuff aboutthis movie is you know, because
he was in the underworld a lotof the effects practical effects
were really fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Oh yeah, I thought.
The thing that was cool, though, is how they tied in everyone
from the previous movies that hekilled.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, and moving on to the weird, I mean we can
still go back to Nessus.
It's fucking weird that thischaracter's here.
We don't even know where thefuck he came from.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, like who the fuck is he?
Why was he like oh, I've beenin love with her.
Why would Hercules invite acentaur into his house?
Makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Makes no fucking sense.
But that was Hercules in theUnderworld.
Pretty good movie.
Kind of explores the lore alittle bit.
You get to see another god.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You get to see.
You know Hades a little bit.
Yeah, we've only seen Hades.
We only know of Hades, hera andZeus' existence, though, Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And Zeus' existence, though Yep, absolutely, and one
Titan that's crazy.
Yep, up to now.
So, yeah, we're done with thisone.
We're going to move on to thefinal movie and that is the
Minotaur.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That was funny because they did allude to that
in one of the other movies.
Go fight a Minotaur, orsomething.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So you want to sign us off for this one.
Stay sexy, atlanta.
Thanks for checking out theDumb, cool, weird Podcast.
We're a movie podcast now, soMovie Monday is every Monday
about crappy movies from the20th century.
It's going to be great, folks.
I can't wait to show y'all.
dumb, cool, weird podcast.
Next is the next movie in thehercules series.
It's number four.
Hercules and the underworld yesand uh.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We start off with eric's the boxer killing the
whole village in which a smallboy runs up to good old
hercules's home begging for help.
Hercules, as usual, shows upand tries to help the town, but
for some reason decides he wantsto keep holding back when
beating up Eryx the Boxer, whois like a seven-foot-tall
(00:33):
professional wrestler in reallife yeah, and Zeus is in the
background and he can help asusual, but instead he's like son
, come on, keep your left up andjab.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, almost like he thought he taught him how to do
that yeah, like you know, helike he fathered his son, or
something yeah something likethat.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah well, you know.
Anyways, hercules decides tolet go and then uh keeps
punching eric's a boxer in thedick and he lands on uh, he
lands on this thing, he impaleshimself Pretty badly and then
you cut to the next town over.
A giant hole from hell comes upbecause that's a thing, and
(01:14):
everybody gets devoured andeaten in that local town.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Fun times.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, what was it?
The village sends over this?
What was the woman's position?
She was like some kind of awench.
Well, they had a lot of wenchesback in those days.
Yeah, they had, like, I thinkshe was like a professional
wench that if she didn'tcomplete her job, and like
seducing Hercules to killhimself, that she would die too.
Well, yeah, well, yeah.
(01:41):
And then we had, you know, whenwe're getting the backstory of
Hercules, you know, enjoying hisfamily, we never figure out why
he has a centaur.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, because it never shows it in the circle of
fire why he has a centaur.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, Nessus just shows up as his farmhand in the
horse stable, Like what's hedoing?
Fucking the horse?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That was like like so odd.
Well, he was, you know, he cutover and he just kind of like
they're venturing off, and then,for some reason, you know, he
tries to rape Hercules's wifewhile she tries to warn him.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Got really dark, didn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, it did get, pretty dark.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, and eventually they finally make it to the
fucking village and he runs downthe hole after that blanket.
Oh yeah, by the way, uh, nessusbleeds all over this blanket
and it gives it it was, it gavehim all the mystical powers to,
like, put his killer blood allover it so that uh, through
harrah, so that he could, he cankill hercules in another
(02:40):
fashion.
Didn't work out very well, yeah, and uh, yeah, you know, in
hercules you, while he's almostgetting murdered by this fucking
blanket, decides.
You know, I'm just going to runto the hole and get this done
After Zeus goes on, this wholething of like.
I really can't tell you ifyou're mortal or not.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
How the fuck does he not know?
I thought he was all knowingGod.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
He doesn't have a very good track record of
knowing, right?
Yeah, he's just a not-knower.
Yeah, Well, you know.
And then Hercules goes intohell and he meets Charon.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Where he just roasts the shit out of him and doesn't
pay him.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, you gotta pay him a gold coin, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, and Hercules is like yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then he goes deeper into the underworld.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, because he was trying to help out Hades.
And then Hades is like yeah,your wife's here.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, that's how you entice him.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, and Hercules, you know, not really
understanding why you know, hasto make a deal with Hades, like
saying, hey, I'll get Cerberusback in line if you give me back
my wife.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Fair trade.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It was a fair trade.
But his uncle Hades was kind oflike A dick.
Well, he wasn't a dick, he waslike hey, man, I made these
rules for a reason.
They're already dead.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Can't bring them back .
You know it's funny Hera Zeusand Hades are the only gods we
see in these entire movies.
It's kind of crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, yeah, except the Titan.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, well, yeah, you see, Prometheus, prometheus,
yeah, that was the only.
Titan that we see other thanthat?
Yeah, because Titans aren'ttechnically gods.
They're more powerful than gods, or I don't know how does that
work.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think their power is matched.
Oh yeah, oh okay.
I think the gods were craftierand more mystical.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, so that's all we know.
We just know Prometheus, andthen three gods, and that's all
we see.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, and you know, the movie gave us another lesson
, because earlier in the moviehis wife was like oh try using
your words in kindness.
No wait, that was the she wench.
That was the she wench who didthat when guy burned, uh, his
mouth on some soup and startedterrorizing the bar oh yeah,
that's right that that didhappen.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So when does uh hercules run into those three
chicks?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
oh god, that was, uh, the three chicks.
Yeah, yeah, that was when hewas like he got into hell after
he uh, after he beat up I thinkhe was after he beat up all
those people he killed in theprevious movies yeah, including
the yeah Including the centaur.
Yeah, the center shows back upagain.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He's like oh, nice to see you again.
Hercules and all these otherpeople that he's killed show
back up.
And they're like yeah, we'regoing to fight you now.
And he's just like all right,whip your ass again.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I love it.
He's like you killed my mother.
He's like she was ugly, likethat was his excuse.
It was like she was ugly, so itkind of did the world a favor.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yep, and then he ends up going again Like I guess he
ends up fighting those threechicks.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, he ended up.
I think that was like before heran into everybody because he
was in like the zombie pit, yeah, zombie pit, yeah.
And that was before uh, nessus,uh sent him to the place where
his wife was hanging out, whereall the beautiful hot ladies
hang out in hell.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, and she couldn't remember anything.
I remember that her memory wasspotty.
At best she's like bitch.
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
yeah, and then he got kisses her and she's like, oh,
my god, hercules, where am I?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
yeah, and then her, and then, uh, haiti shows up hey
, he's like come on, man, Ican't let.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He's like how about I get Cerberus back?
Cerberus is being tracked by mybest hunters, who are just
getting their ass handed to themevery second of the way.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, then that's when we cut to Cerberus.
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, and Cerberus.
Those are some pretty goodeffects, though, for Cerberus.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, they really kicked up the budget on that
stuff, I can tell for some ofthese movies no.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then I mean Hercules used that lesson that
he learned in the bar use yourwords and kindness and he got
Cerberus back in chains.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean it was pretty much happily ever after after
that yep, and he gets his wifeback and they go back to being a
family again yeah so what wouldyou say?
Is um really dumb about thismovie?
Is it because we just didn'tknow where the fuck?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
yeah, he just didn't know where he came from.
This guy just lives in thehorse stable, yeah, like from
movie three, you know.
At least.
No, sorry, not movie three.
Yeah, movie three, you know, inthe circle of fire.
I've thought we would like, Ithought they would at least do
some kind of a segue if we'regoing to get that character.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Nothing.
Fourth movie yeah, that ispretty dumb.
I think the coolest stuff aboutthis movie is you know, because
he was in the underworld a lotof the effects practical effects
were really fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Oh yeah, I thought.
The thing that was cool, though, is how they tied in everyone
from the previous movies that hekilled.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, and moving on to the weird, I mean we can
still go back to Nessus.
It's fucking weird that thischaracter's here.
We don't even know where thefuck he came from.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, like who the fuck is he?
Why was he like oh, I've beenin love with her.
Why would Hercules invite acentaur into his house?
Makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Makes no fucking sense.
But that was Hercules in theUnderworld.
Pretty good movie.
Kind of explores the lore alittle bit.
You get to see another god.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You get to see.
You know Hades a little bit.
Yeah, we've only seen Hades.
We only know of Hades, hera andZeus' existence, though, Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And Zeus' existence, though Yep, absolutely, and one
Titan that's crazy.
Yep, up to now.
So, yeah, we're done with thisone.
We're going to move on to thefinal movie and that is the
Minotaur.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That was funny because they did allude to that
in one of the other movies.
Go fight a Minotaur, orsomething.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So you want to sign us off for this one.
Stay sexy, atlanta.
Thanks for checking out theDumb, cool, weird Podcast.
We're a movie podcast now, soMovie Monday is every Monday
about crappy movies from the20th century.
It's going to be great, folks.
I can't wait to show y'all.
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