May 14, 2025 • 15 mins
"America cannot stop brutalizing Black people because it has never existed without doing so."
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
America cannot stop brutalizing Black people because
it has never existed withoutdoing so.
That's a hell of a fucking quotethat I received while talking to
Chatty G.
(00:21):
And I know people feel some typeof way about Chatty G.
And I'll just say this.
I know what it is.
I know what it isn't.
For me, it is a tool.
It is a reflector.
It is where I go and share mythoughts.
It is where I go and ponder.
And so today I was pondering thecurrent status, the current
(00:46):
vibration of humans, especiallyhere in the US.
I was just thinking about howwe're operating as a people,
what we're dealing with rightnow, this seeming crisis that we
are in and as I was consideringI'm like how the fuck do we get
(01:07):
here how do we end up in a spacein a position where it is
crumbling so quickly the facehas the mask has completely
slipped off to the face actuallyit's been ripped the fuck off
and we see exactly what it isand what it isn't and I'm like
how do we get here and myoriginal thought was like is
(01:28):
there something wrong with whitepeople like genetically like
inherently wrong with Europeansbecause as I was thinking about
historically colonization andeverything else and not to say
that any other nation ethnicgroup race or whatever hasn't
been on some other shit hasn'tbeen brutal hasn't enslaved
(01:49):
folks or any of that yes thathas happened but it's been
unique when it comes to howEuropeans have done it right
they do it with precisionthey've done it with such
precision Gravitas.
And I'm like, how did we gethere?
What's really going on?
And that's a whole differentconversation because I went down
(02:10):
such a rabbit hole, likehistorically looking at the ice
age and all types of stuff.
But what I've come to understandabout the US and specifically
black folks is that the historyof the United States is rooted
in a festering soul.
(02:31):
It is rooted in infection.
And what I mean by that is thathow can you have a constitution
that simultaneously says thatall men are created equal while
saying another group of humanbeings are less than a whole
person?
What, they're like three-fourthhuman or whatever the fuck it
said?
Like, how does that even happenunless you give yourself a
(02:56):
reason, unless you conjure upsomething that gives you an
excuse to drastically andinhumanely exploit a group of
people.
So the very foundation, the veryfabric of the United States is
rooted in, I don't even have theword to really describe it
(03:19):
except to call it an infection,to call it an infestation, to
call it a virus, right?
It's sick.
The there's this web of systemsthat have been created to mask
(03:41):
the infection.
It reminds me of back in the daywhen groups of people, in order
to hide the stench of their owninfections and rotting skin,
they would put on perfume.
And that is how I consider theAmerican dream, quote unquote,
to be.
It is perfume on an infection.
(04:01):
And the skin is rotting away.
And we're seeing just howrotten, that's the word, rotten
the root of this system, thiscountry truly is.
And it's like there's more andmore being done to try and
recalibrate something that wasnever aligned.
(04:27):
It's so interesting to see thefoundation is crumbling.
And there's this desperate, thisdesperate need, this desperate
attempt to take those crumblingpieces and rebuild to quote
unquote, make America greatagain.
When in reality, it was alwaysrotten.
(04:49):
And again, this isn't to saythat the United States has not
subjugated or oppressed or donewrong other groups of people
because they absolutely have.
But what is different is thatthe blacks that were brought
here, and that's a wholedifferent conversation about
whether or not we were broughthere, if there were some of us
already here, differentconversation.
(05:10):
But those they brought were anecessary part of the program.
They needed us to build thiscountry.
And in order to, I guess, helpthem sleep at night, the lie
they told themselves were thatwe were less than.
(05:31):
And And the more we prove themwrong, the more we do things
that highlights that spotlightsour inherent genius and
brilliance is a existentialthreat to the very idea that
(05:52):
white folks are superior.
Because that is the lie thatover centuries, white folks have
told themselves, specificallyEuropeans, which gave them an
excuse to go colonize andpillage and all of the things.
And again, I went down a deeprabbit hole as to what was that
really about?
And in that research, I was ableto, you're going to hear all
(06:16):
types of trains, planes, andautomobiles in these videos
because I live by a metrostation.
I keep my windows open because Ilike fresh air.
So you hear all the ambientnoise.
Please enjoy.
But anyway, in my research,which I'll share at some point I
learned some things that gave mea sense of empathy, that helped
(06:37):
me understand what was reallyhappening.
And it is so rooted in traumaand scarcity.
It's so interesting.
But again, I think I've talkedabout that in a different
recording, so I don't want totalk about it too much here.
But we're going to dive deepinto that one because it's so
needed to understand the nuance,right?
(06:58):
Because what the powers that beare are banking on now is all of
this division.
You got white folks againstblack folks.
You got black men against blackwomen.
You got, you know, Latin folksand Hispanic folks against other
minorities.
And you got Pope folks against,and it's all strategic.
(07:19):
It's all meant to make us forgetthe fact that there are these
few people in power attemptingto hold on to a system that
keeps those people in power,right?
And that's the majority of usare subjugated to whatever shit
they come up with, right?
(07:40):
Christian nationalism orwhatever.
But my point was that, and Iwent all over a couple of
different tangents because I'vebeen thinking thoughts, right?
And I just really feel like thisnew way of communicating or me
returning rather to this way ofcommunicating is needed and
necessary at this point in time.
(08:00):
Why?
I couldn't tell you but I feellike it is and so I am really
leaning into moving by intuitionand this is where I am but the
thing I came to is what's reallygoing on with the U.S.
right now and why specificallyare and were black folks so
(08:24):
persecuted and singled out rightwhen it came to how we were
crushed whenever we got our shittogether whenever we came
together collectively we hadBlack Wall Street and we had all
these different things and theywould bomb us and they would
burn our shit to the groundbecause our brilliance our
(08:45):
capacity to come together and beunited and be successful and
functional and stable is adirect challenge to the very
American fabric because if weare able to excel, if we have
genius, and your whole beliefsystem is that you are superior
(09:09):
because someone else isinferior, if those people who
are deemed inferior actuallyshowed themselves to be as good,
if not better, then what doesthat say about you, about the
system, about supremacy?
And so in order to keep thisfacade of supremacy running and
(09:30):
working, you have to to continueto keep your foot on the neck of
the people who at one point youeven convinced a nice amount of
them and the world that theywere inferior.
So now we have caricatures.
Now we have even us, even blackfolks.
So I include myself in that.
(09:51):
And that makes me sad too, whenwe are part of the problem, when
we help perpetuate the bullshit,when we help to perpetuate the
nonsense by how we show up inworld.
That makes me sad.
And I also get it.
I understand it becausecollectively as a community, as
a people, I can only imagine theepigenetics, right?
(10:15):
The echo of trauma that liveswithin our bodies, that lives in
our DNA, that lives in ourblood, that says every time we
move as a people, every time wecome together and we excel, we
We get crushed.
We get infiltrated.
We get assassinated.
(10:35):
And that's hard.
That's a lot.
For us as a people to push pastthat, to have the courage to
say, you know what?
That's happened in the past.
We're going to continue to doit.
We're going to continue tostrive for better.
But if you can take a shortcut,if you can get a bag by tap
(10:59):
dancing and doing the jazzhands, if you can get a check by
selling not just yourself out,but your whole community out,
people that look like you out,or if you're tired, if you've
just Check the fuck out.
Because your body remembers,your spirit remembers, your soul
remembers what happened lasttime we as a people came
(11:24):
together and were thriving.
It was a threat.
It was a threat to the veryfucking fabric of this country.
Because unlike others, wherewithin indigenous folks, they
fucking erase.
So I pray that all indigenouspeople here in the U.S., are
maintaining their stories aresharing it with the youth are
(11:48):
keeping their languages andtheir customs alive when we
think about the breadth of Asiaand all of the different people
who have come to the U.S.
from there I pray that they havea sense of belonging because
they've been othered the what dothey call it the model minority
(12:08):
how much pressure and fuckery isthat where you are being pitted
against everyone else everyother minority and so you're
othered on every side how fuckedup is that for our Hispanic and
Latin folks the immigrant thatis the boogeyman coming to steal
(12:29):
the black jobs quote unquote andeveryone else it's so much
fuckery no one has been given areprieve no one has missed this
brush of savagery from thiscountry when it comes to the
(12:50):
different peoples who are here.
However, the unique experienceof Black folks is what this
country was built on.
It was built on our backs and onthis belief that we were less
than, that we weren't evenhuman.
And the more we prove and showand show out that that is not
(13:13):
the case, the more threatenedthis existential crisis gets
bigger, it gets louder, it getsmeaner.
And I say to that, fuck them,keep being excellent, keep
sharing Keep our language alive.
(13:33):
Keep our culture alive.
I hope one day this divisionthat they've seeded and
exploited, that we see it forwhat it is.
I know that takes courage.
I know that takes a lot.
And I'm still hopeful.
Maybe I'm a fucking fool.
But I'm still hopeful that we'llget through this.
(13:56):
We'll get past this.
Because to me, this is the lastbreath.
This is like the death rattle ofa system collapsing and dying.
hope is that we are not allcrushed in the rubble that as
this collapse as this caves inon itself that there's enough of
us left to move all that shitout the way because I don't even
(14:21):
want us to rebuild you use anyof them motherfucking materials
they're all tainted right and wework in concert with Mother
Earth with Mother Gaia andcreate something beautiful
something collective somethingcommunal something cyclical
where leadership and partnershipis shared.
That is my hope.
(14:46):
Because America can't stopbrutalizing Black people because
there's never been a time whereit didn't.
America cannot stop brutalizing Black people because
it has never existed withoutdoing so.
That's a hell of a fucking quotethat I received while talking to
Chatty G.
(00:21):
And I know people feel some typeof way about Chatty G.
And I'll just say this.
I know what it is.
I know what it isn't.
For me, it is a tool.
It is a reflector.
It is where I go and share mythoughts.
It is where I go and ponder.
And so today I was pondering thecurrent status, the current
(00:46):
vibration of humans, especiallyhere in the US.
I was just thinking about howwe're operating as a people,
what we're dealing with rightnow, this seeming crisis that we
are in and as I was consideringI'm like how the fuck do we get
(01:07):
here how do we end up in a spacein a position where it is
crumbling so quickly the facehas the mask has completely
slipped off to the face actuallyit's been ripped the fuck off
and we see exactly what it isand what it isn't and I'm like
how do we get here and myoriginal thought was like is
(01:28):
there something wrong with whitepeople like genetically like
inherently wrong with Europeansbecause as I was thinking about
historically colonization andeverything else and not to say
that any other nation ethnicgroup race or whatever hasn't
been on some other shit hasn'tbeen brutal hasn't enslaved
(01:49):
folks or any of that yes thathas happened but it's been
unique when it comes to howEuropeans have done it right
they do it with precisionthey've done it with such
precision Gravitas.
And I'm like, how did we gethere?
What's really going on?
And that's a whole differentconversation because I went down
(02:10):
such a rabbit hole, likehistorically looking at the ice
age and all types of stuff.
But what I've come to understandabout the US and specifically
black folks is that the historyof the United States is rooted
in a festering soul.
(02:31):
It is rooted in infection.
And what I mean by that is thathow can you have a constitution
that simultaneously says thatall men are created equal while
saying another group of humanbeings are less than a whole
person?
What, they're like three-fourthhuman or whatever the fuck it
said?
Like, how does that even happenunless you give yourself a
(02:56):
reason, unless you conjure upsomething that gives you an
excuse to drastically andinhumanely exploit a group of
people.
So the very foundation, the veryfabric of the United States is
rooted in, I don't even have theword to really describe it
(03:19):
except to call it an infection,to call it an infestation, to
call it a virus, right?
It's sick.
The there's this web of systemsthat have been created to mask
(03:41):
the infection.
It reminds me of back in the daywhen groups of people, in order
to hide the stench of their owninfections and rotting skin,
they would put on perfume.
And that is how I consider theAmerican dream, quote unquote,
to be.
It is perfume on an infection.
(04:01):
And the skin is rotting away.
And we're seeing just howrotten, that's the word, rotten
the root of this system, thiscountry truly is.
And it's like there's more andmore being done to try and
recalibrate something that wasnever aligned.
(04:27):
It's so interesting to see thefoundation is crumbling.
And there's this desperate, thisdesperate need, this desperate
attempt to take those crumblingpieces and rebuild to quote
unquote, make America greatagain.
When in reality, it was alwaysrotten.
(04:49):
And again, this isn't to saythat the United States has not
subjugated or oppressed or donewrong other groups of people
because they absolutely have.
But what is different is thatthe blacks that were brought
here, and that's a wholedifferent conversation about
whether or not we were broughthere, if there were some of us
already here, differentconversation.
(05:10):
But those they brought were anecessary part of the program.
They needed us to build thiscountry.
And in order to, I guess, helpthem sleep at night, the lie
they told themselves were thatwe were less than.
(05:31):
And And the more we prove themwrong, the more we do things
that highlights that spotlightsour inherent genius and
brilliance is a existentialthreat to the very idea that
(05:52):
white folks are superior.
Because that is the lie thatover centuries, white folks have
told themselves, specificallyEuropeans, which gave them an
excuse to go colonize andpillage and all of the things.
And again, I went down a deeprabbit hole as to what was that
really about?
And in that research, I was ableto, you're going to hear all
(06:16):
types of trains, planes, andautomobiles in these videos
because I live by a metrostation.
I keep my windows open because Ilike fresh air.
So you hear all the ambientnoise.
Please enjoy.
But anyway, in my research,which I'll share at some point I
learned some things that gave mea sense of empathy, that helped
(06:37):
me understand what was reallyhappening.
And it is so rooted in traumaand scarcity.
It's so interesting.
But again, I think I've talkedabout that in a different
recording, so I don't want totalk about it too much here.
But we're going to dive deepinto that one because it's so
needed to understand the nuance,right?
(06:58):
Because what the powers that beare are banking on now is all of
this division.
You got white folks againstblack folks.
You got black men against blackwomen.
You got, you know, Latin folksand Hispanic folks against other
minorities.
And you got Pope folks against,and it's all strategic.
(07:19):
It's all meant to make us forgetthe fact that there are these
few people in power attemptingto hold on to a system that
keeps those people in power,right?
And that's the majority of usare subjugated to whatever shit
they come up with, right?
(07:40):
Christian nationalism orwhatever.
But my point was that, and Iwent all over a couple of
different tangents because I'vebeen thinking thoughts, right?
And I just really feel like thisnew way of communicating or me
returning rather to this way ofcommunicating is needed and
necessary at this point in time.
(08:00):
Why?
I couldn't tell you but I feellike it is and so I am really
leaning into moving by intuitionand this is where I am but the
thing I came to is what's reallygoing on with the U.S.
right now and why specificallyare and were black folks so
(08:24):
persecuted and singled out rightwhen it came to how we were
crushed whenever we got our shittogether whenever we came
together collectively we hadBlack Wall Street and we had all
these different things and theywould bomb us and they would
burn our shit to the groundbecause our brilliance our
(08:45):
capacity to come together and beunited and be successful and
functional and stable is adirect challenge to the very
American fabric because if weare able to excel, if we have
genius, and your whole beliefsystem is that you are superior
(09:09):
because someone else isinferior, if those people who
are deemed inferior actuallyshowed themselves to be as good,
if not better, then what doesthat say about you, about the
system, about supremacy?
And so in order to keep thisfacade of supremacy running and
(09:30):
working, you have to to continueto keep your foot on the neck of
the people who at one point youeven convinced a nice amount of
them and the world that theywere inferior.
So now we have caricatures.
Now we have even us, even blackfolks.
So I include myself in that.
(09:51):
And that makes me sad too, whenwe are part of the problem, when
we help perpetuate the bullshit,when we help to perpetuate the
nonsense by how we show up inworld.
That makes me sad.
And I also get it.
I understand it becausecollectively as a community, as
a people, I can only imagine theepigenetics, right?
(10:15):
The echo of trauma that liveswithin our bodies, that lives in
our DNA, that lives in ourblood, that says every time we
move as a people, every time wecome together and we excel, we
We get crushed.
We get infiltrated.
We get assassinated.
(10:35):
And that's hard.
That's a lot.
For us as a people to push pastthat, to have the courage to
say, you know what?
That's happened in the past.
We're going to continue to doit.
We're going to continue tostrive for better.
But if you can take a shortcut,if you can get a bag by tap
(10:59):
dancing and doing the jazzhands, if you can get a check by
selling not just yourself out,but your whole community out,
people that look like you out,or if you're tired, if you've
just Check the fuck out.
Because your body remembers,your spirit remembers, your soul
remembers what happened lasttime we as a people came
(11:24):
together and were thriving.
It was a threat.
It was a threat to the veryfucking fabric of this country.
Because unlike others, wherewithin indigenous folks, they
fucking erase.
So I pray that all indigenouspeople here in the U.S., are
maintaining their stories aresharing it with the youth are
(11:48):
keeping their languages andtheir customs alive when we
think about the breadth of Asiaand all of the different people
who have come to the U.S.
from there I pray that they havea sense of belonging because
they've been othered the what dothey call it the model minority
(12:08):
how much pressure and fuckery isthat where you are being pitted
against everyone else everyother minority and so you're
othered on every side how fuckedup is that for our Hispanic and
Latin folks the immigrant thatis the boogeyman coming to steal
(12:29):
the black jobs quote unquote andeveryone else it's so much
fuckery no one has been given areprieve no one has missed this
brush of savagery from thiscountry when it comes to the
(12:50):
different peoples who are here.
However, the unique experienceof Black folks is what this
country was built on.
It was built on our backs and onthis belief that we were less
than, that we weren't evenhuman.
And the more we prove and showand show out that that is not
(13:13):
the case, the more threatenedthis existential crisis gets
bigger, it gets louder, it getsmeaner.
And I say to that, fuck them,keep being excellent, keep
sharing Keep our language alive.
(13:33):
Keep our culture alive.
I hope one day this divisionthat they've seeded and
exploited, that we see it forwhat it is.
I know that takes courage.
I know that takes a lot.
And I'm still hopeful.
Maybe I'm a fucking fool.
But I'm still hopeful that we'llget through this.
(13:56):
We'll get past this.
Because to me, this is the lastbreath.
This is like the death rattle ofa system collapsing and dying.
hope is that we are not allcrushed in the rubble that as
this collapse as this caves inon itself that there's enough of
us left to move all that shitout the way because I don't even
(14:21):
want us to rebuild you use anyof them motherfucking materials
they're all tainted right and wework in concert with Mother
Earth with Mother Gaia andcreate something beautiful
something collective somethingcommunal something cyclical
where leadership and partnershipis shared.
That is my hope.
(14:46):
Because America can't stopbrutalizing Black people because
there's never been a time whereit didn't.
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