February 8, 2025 • 69 mins
Join us as we explore the profound topics of the afterlife, the nature of souls, and the insights given by Artur Tadevosyan, a channeler with a unique ability to communicate with spirits. At the intersection of spirituality and mental health, this episode offers enlightening perspectives on love, guides, and the life's complexities we all face.
- Insights into the afterlife and soul journeys
- Discussions about duality and the importance of love
- How channeling impacts emotional well-being
- Perspectives on schizophrenia and spiritual awakenings
- The significance of reincarnation and personal evolution
- Understanding the roles of spirit guides and angels
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And then right after and she went to the dark place.
I saw the place like kind of aalmost like a jail cell, but
with no light and dumpy place.
She was sitting there andscared and didn't understand
what's happening, why I'm hereregretting what she's done.
And then, after a funeral aweek later, boy hanged himself.
(00:23):
Same tree after a funeral weeklater, boy hanged himself same
tree hello everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thank you for joining me.
Today's episode is with arArthur Tadevosian.
Now Arthur does not live here,he lives in South Africa and he
is an amazing human being andsuch a great person and
wonderful guide.
I loved our episode because inthis episode we talked a lot
(01:00):
about the afterlife.
We talked about souls.
We talked about what happenswhen we pass, what happens to
our ancestors.
Can we see them?
Can we feel them?
Do they talk to us?
We talked about guides.
We talked about angels, wetalked about guardians, and so I
know that a lot of you arereligious and you don't really
believe in this part of theworld, and but I just wanted to
(01:22):
bring him on because I thinkhe's such an amazing,
knowledgeable individual andsuch a wise person and I I
definitely believe, and I I knowthat there's people out there
who do have this sense and whowho sixth sense, if you want to
call them, and they can honestlyfeel energy, feel souls, and so
(01:42):
I'm such an awe of this episodebecause he puts a lot of the
things that I was believing andquestioning into perspective,
and so I think he really doeshelp a lot of individuals with
that are stuck and that reallywant answers and I'm just
honored he accepted myinvitation.
He was on my show.
So definitely look out for thispodcast If you do want to talk
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to someone who has theseabilities.
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Arthur, are you nervous withArthur?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Tadevosian Arthur are you nervous?
No, no, I get used to italready.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know Che.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
In the beginning I used to sweat, yeah, in the
beginning it wasn't easy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Very hard.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I know.
No, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's not.
There's like a lot of peoplelike looking at you, following
you, really like your wordsmatter, so it's a big
responsibility.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, that's what I feel.
You have to wear your wordsbefore you say something and
then it can resonate.
I don't know, sometimes peopleget upset, should I say?
But then generally, like 90%are welcoming this knowledge.
(04:05):
So many people are asking whatis it?
It's belief.
I always say this is not belief, it's just the knowledge.
And when they ask where thisknowledge come from, we call it
fifth dimensional consciousness,when you know what you need to
know without knowing anything.
Not what you want to know, butwhat you need to know without
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knowing anything.
Not what you want to know, butwhat you need to know.
So, on a need-to-know basis,I'm doing downloads basically
every day, and then thequestions are what is most
important?
Because, I can ask manyquestions, but you cannot ask
all of them, because to me,knowledge is infinite and when
somebody appears and asks thequestion, I say I never thought
(04:50):
about it.
Okay, let me think about it.
Sometimes the answer comesimmediately, sometimes it comes
next morning.
But yeah, so this is where I amnow.
In the last 10 years I can sayyeah.
Yeah, so my life is changingdrastically.
I'm thinking now I'm closing myfactory, it's taking completely
(05:12):
me.
I just can't be in two placesanymore.
I just I have to prioritizewhat I'm doing now and this is
not.
It's like the universe pushingme into this, onto this path.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, Well, I'm already a long time, arthur,
when you are so mindful.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Do we call them channels?
Is that what we call them?
Yeah, it's conscious channeling.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Conscious channeling.
Yeah, that's exactly what wecall it.
When you are in your consciouschanneling, I just imagine, do
you ever get tired, Like are youever mentally just drained and
exhausted?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know where I get drained when I'm doing sessions,
and I'm doing two to threesessions a day.
I get drained when they'reasking to check on someone who
committed suicide or someone whois on the other side, but in a
low dimensional realms theycan't reach me.
(06:12):
I have to go to reach them.
So basically you're going intothe dark places and then you're
trying to get information wherethey are, what they're doing
there, and especially when it'snot one person they want and
they're asking another person,another person Like when I
thought on a fourth person Ifeel like I have no more energy
(06:32):
because some clients, they justthey got this 45-minute
opportunity to find out aboutall their relatives on the other
side and they're using it tomaximum and this is what drains
me.
But when I reach out to someonein a high-dimensional realm,
like someone who livedrighteously and they're in the
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light, it's such a pleasure tobe around them Me too.
Sometimes they step into myroom, sometimes they can step.
Almost.
I feel like I'm becoming them,because it's so much love
pouring through me to the personI'm talking.
I just want to grab the cellphone and to hug them.
(07:15):
That's the feeling coming whenthey're missing so much each
other.
The strongest connection islove.
Yeah, and that is veryrejuvenating.
I'm like 45 minutes.
I'm not even feeling better, soit's sometimes right, it's like
I learned.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I learned that, uh, from reading about spirituality,
that it life is about duality,when you give energy but you
also have to take energy.
So if you're constantly givingand giving and giving to your
clients and it's like negativerealm, what is that going to do
to you?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's a good question, because they're always
teasing me.
I'm structured, I'm wireddifferently, like, if you tell
me who I had a session in themorning, I won't be able to tell
you.
It just comes and goescompletely.
Even my room during the sessionin the morning I won't be able
to tell you, it just comes andgoes completely.
Even my room during the sessionsometimes gets filled with the
spirits.
I can see spirit guides, I cansee person from other side.
They're like all around here,session's gone, they're all
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disappearing.
That's how it works, gosh, andit helps me.
It's helping me.
Nothing actually settles andGod forbid if I had someone
connected on the other side whocommitted suicide, and Grace
always want to know, asking if Itell it will stay with her
forever.
She cannot forget it.
So I try to give as much asless information as possible.
(08:36):
Yeah, because she's veryempathic.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, that's one of the questions that I have,
because I have read a lot aboutorchid children I think they're
called indigo individuals wherethey're just so sensitive and in
tuned.
But we'll get into that lateron.
(09:03):
What I want to know is what hasled you to be in this space
Like?
Were you always connected tothe other side, as we call it?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, I wasn't what happened.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
One thing I know from young age.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I know one thing Many times I used to get sick, very
often when I was five, six yearsold, and every time when my
temperature was coming hitting40 degrees, we call it zarantzel
.
I don't know how you say it inEnglish.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hallucinations from the high fever.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Hallucinations.
And when I was coming back,first feeling was I was so
disappointed I wanted to die.
I don't know why.
There always was a blue doorfor me there on a white wall,
and I was always trying to findthe door.
It was a time I was reaching,almost opening the door, like to
go back where I come from.
And then, as I grow older, thedoor has disappeared, but the
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feeling is still there.
When I get sick I just want togo, I don't want to come back.
And when I came to South AfricaI was employed by a Portuguese
man who was very spiritual andhe's the one who started to
speak to me.
It suddenly is like he flickedthe switch in my head, in my
brain, and then, whatever he wastelling me, I was like a sponge
(10:17):
, listening, listening.
And then time comes I realizethere is more to it.
But I didn't know a way to getinformation and I start to it.
But I didn't know a way to getinformation and I started to
read.
But being in an English-speakingcountry, I didn't have any
English.
I had no English at all.
So I started to readphilosophical books.
(10:37):
I thought I would find myanswer there.
So I went through allphilosophical books, all
religious books, everything Icould get my hands on, and still
I wasn't finding answers.
And then I started to findspiritual books, still wasn't
satisfied.
And then I asked myself, whatthe hell am I looking for
actually?
And I realized I want to knowwhat happens once we cross over,
(10:59):
because I knew, always knew,that I got something to give,
but I don't know what is it.
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, it was.
Yeah, the biggest downloadhappened in one day.
I heard a voice in my head LikeI had like two people talking
to each other and it wasn'tscary.
It was like interesting, likeyou connected to someone, like
tipping into someone'sconversation on the phone, and
(11:30):
then I realized I need to writedown whatever they're talking
about.
So I grabbed the pen paper andstarted to write without knowing
what the hell I'm actuallywriting.
And then I the English methodlanguage.
I can't spell English word tosave my third language at the
counter.
Spell English were to sell mylife, but it was coming in
English.
That was too forced to write inEnglish.
(11:52):
And I've the first chapter ofmy book I wrote without even
knowing if I were going to beable to read it, what I'm
writing, because I didn't haveglasses.
The grace was upstairs and thenwhen I finished, the Grace put
my glasses on to see what did Iwrite there and she came up and
said what happened?
I said let me see.
And I said I managed.
I can read whatever I wrote.
(12:13):
First I thought it would bedialogue between two characters,
something short, like somethingI would like kind of channeling
is given to me so I can learnmore.
But then it's become so hecticI was writing day and night, in
the middle of the night like Icouldn't wake up until three
o'clock.
Keep writing, writing, and it'sgetting.
It's like six, seven monthslater first book was done.
(12:35):
When I finished I said thankyou very much, I've done what
you wanted me to do.
Can I have my life back?
Because I was writingeverywhere, like in a cafeteria,
in a restaurant, at work.
My work was suffering, Icouldn't be in a factory.
So, um and I, I and they werestepping into my life, like
taking completely over me, andeverything they experienced I
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was they make put me through.
I could have laughed, I couldhave cried.
Grace thought I'm losing mymind.
She was very worried about me.
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking toomuch, okay, no, no no, this is
very interesting.
Yeah, when I finished the firstbook, in between chapters in my
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manuscripts, the poetry keptcoming.
I was writing a chapter and onepoem Poetry.
Yeah, poetry kept coming.
I was writing a chapter andthen one poem Poetry.
Yeah, in English, a chapter andthen poetry, and then sometimes
characters were speaking toeach other in poetic form, like
kind of a Shakespearean, kind ofa.
It was also weird.
So I'm writing a poem poetrynow, and then it goes to the
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normal way of writing.
It was a now and then goes tothe like I don't know what's the
normal way of writing andthey're like.
It was crazy experience and Iasked myself what the hell is
going on?
Who is this?
And I wrote down one next toyou speaks through you, and then
I realized like someone therestanding speaking through me and
delivering message.
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So every character steps intothe book, I feel their presence,
I could hear their voice, Icould see their dialect.
They all had specific way ofspeaking.
Yeah, and Italian, portuguese,the accents, and then Italians
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was using Italian words which Ididn't know meaning.
So when I finished with thefirst book, I asked my daughter,
eva.
I said please, eva, just typein the proper English so someone
else except me can read what Iwrote.
So she was typing and she keptsaying look look up to the word.
And I said this is what I hear.
She said there is no word likethis.
I said this is what I hear.
(14:49):
She said that there is no wordlike this.
I said please check it.
It should be, and then shecould have googled.
It says, yeah, there is anEnglish word, but no one using
these words anymore.
So this strange words keepcoming, which I had to write
without knowing even meaning ofthose words.
Yeah, so it was like kind of acrazy experience.
No, it's.
It's, it's very pleasant.
It was a pleasant experience.
You feel like you're guided,you feel like this warm energy
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around you and every time beforeI was writing in this room, I
hear this knock and I know it'stime to write.
And when it's done with thechanneling, I hear this and I
know it's over.
So it was constant interactionwith the channeling.
I hear this and I know it'sover.
So it was constant interactionwith the spiritual world, with
those who had.
Basically, I realized these arethe people who once lived on the
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planet earth and they crossedto the other side.
Now, through me, they wastrying to give to the public, to
the people who read the book,their life story, story of their
life, what they went throughwhen husband died and crossed
over and wife stayed behind, howthey interact with each other,
what husband was experiencing onother side.
(15:54):
So basically it's a novel.
So when I finished with thefirst book I said thank you very
much, I'm done.
I kind of wanted my freedomalready.
And then four or five monthslater I realized I was coming
back again.
So it's not over, now you haveto write again.
And I said, great, seems likethe second book coming, I have
to write.
She said, okay, I understand,just keep doing.
(16:17):
And then let's see what willhappen.
And I realized you willunderstand this and I realized
you will understand this.
I was drawn into the LeninaGunn earthquake.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh, my gosh Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, I'll do this once again.
Yeah, Basically the story of onefamily who went through the
experience and a young man whoexperienced loss, of one family
who went through the experienceand the young man who
experienced loss of his family,his pregnant wife and daughter.
And they come through thesecond book and that was very
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difficult for me to write.
It was becoming personal andbecause I was present, I saw
what happened there and they,like was using all what I
emotionally went through it wentinto the book, but through
their perspective, through theperspective of spiritual world,
what happened to those whocrossed over in that moment, how
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they get separated from theirbody and where they went.
So, yeah, that was the secondbook.
It was difficult but I finishedit.
It took about two years to writeand then when I realized
there's nothing else to give,all right, a couple of months
later again I felt there's morecoming to it and I kept writing
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and then, in the middle of thethird book book, everything
disappeared.
Voices were gone, imagesbecause it works with voices and
images, dialogue was very easyfor me to write because I could
hear what they're talking about.
It's kind of a schizophrenia,but control schizophrenia, you
can let them in.
Yeah, this is what exactly it is, but I could control them.
(18:06):
You know, like, if I don't wantto write, I don't.
Yeah, this is what exactly itis.
Yeah, but I could control them.
You know, like, if I don't wantto write, I don't, I would say
okay leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That is so interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And in the middle of the third book, yeah, stopped
for seven months, dead, quiet.
Now you feel like lost child,you know, like you had all this
uh energy around, protectiveenergy, guiding energy, and then
suddenly everybody left you.
I was lost.
And then grace keep pushing me,aren't you going to finish your
book?
I said grace, nothing to write.
I could have sit with, like,like, anyway, that, just give me
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anything, not not one word.
And then I remember I was in abookstore and I find myself in
front of the section of thereligious books and I look at
the Bible.
I said I realized I didn't readBible in English.
I said okay, let me.
I feel I need to buy the Bible.
I said great.
So she said Bible.
I said yes, okay, I said that'sfine.
(19:03):
Tell me about the Bible.
I said Grace.
I said Bible.
I said yes, okay, I said that'sfine.
The Bible is on my table nowand I start to read it and I
feel I need to read the NewTestament, the four Gospels Mark
, matthew, john, luke.
As I finish four Gospels,voices come back, but with such
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a force and such a power.
And then I realized I have towrite about Christ.
And it was a shock.
It was kind of scary becausefor me, christ was just.
I didn't see him the way he is.
I thought he's just anothermessenger, another prophet who
came share with his wisdom, withhis knowledge.
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We picked up on it and, yeah,we created religion.
And then, when I started tochannel him, it was the most
unbelievable experience.
I was crying.
I felt his presence in my room.
I know it's only a tiny part ofhis energy.
No one can handle that muchlove.
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No human can.
It's just a tiny part of it.
Energy was enough for me.
Like you, want to go on yourknees and to grab his feet and
just to cry, like a child whofinds his lost parent.
This is the feeling you'reexperiencing in his presence.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
feeling Until now I'm getting overwhelmed.
I was writing about three, fouryears ago, but it feels like it
was yesterday.
He's humongous, he's power,he's love.
He's forgiveness.
He's everything I understand.
He's God.
He is forgiveness.
He's everything I understand.
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He's God, he is God.
I never saw him as a God andthen I had a dialogue with him.
The half of the book is justquestions and answers, questions
and answers.
He took me around.
He showed to me his reality,his non-physical world, how it's
structured, how the soulsarrive to his reality, how they
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get accommodated, educationalprocess, where they go.
And then I always was saying Idon't believe in hell.
There is no hell.
There can't be because God islove.
And then, in the duration ofconversation, a word came around
and I said but I'm sure thereis no hell.
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He said do you want to see itBefore?
I said is there hell?
He just grabbed my hand andpulled me down and we flew down
and I'm falling down.
I don't know where I'm fallingto.
And I realized I'm falling tothe planet and I see it's
getting bigger.
I realize I'm falling onto theplanet Earth and I just praised
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myself.
I said now it's going to be ahorrendous impact.
This is what I'm writing andI'm feeling and I'm seeing these
pictures.
And then the moment was whatimpact was going to happen.
We just went through the planetEarth, through the crust, into
the center of the planet Earth,and then we arrived to the
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humongous doors and it was kindof scary.
And then we pushed the doorsopen under the heat.
I said no, this can't be.
All my life I knew there is nohell.
And when I asked him, how is it, how it can be, how you can
create this?
No, no, no.
He said we didn't create this.
Humanity created this bybelieving into something you
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manifested into reality.
And for thousands of years wekept maintaining this place
because those souls who believethey belong to hell they always
end up in hell, no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
By just being bad and doing bad things.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, no, it's by judging yourself harshly,
believing that you're not arighteous person and you don't
belong to heaven.
This is enough to end up in abad place.
It's not all bad people.
Self-criticism.
He showed me seven levels ofheaven, very similar to what
Dante Alighieri was showing inhis Divine Comedy.
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Very similar Seven levels, butit was going like spiraling down
.
And I asked who is on thebottom level?
They said this is the souls,who are basically beyond
repairing.
I said what's going to happento them?
He said there will be thesource.
The creator will take them back, they will be diluted into
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energy of source, supremecreator.
And I said isn't it going toaffect him?
He said no, it's like a drop ofthe dirty water into the ocean.
It's not water into the ocean,it's not.
This is the one who, mentally,beyond fixing, beyond re, how do
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you say it, yeah, beyond repair, beyond repair.
They've done so many bad things.
They've done so many bad thingslike they are.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
To themselves.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
They cannot forgive.
Now to the other people.
You see how the fourthdimensional reality is
structured.
If you hurt someone, you causedsomeone physical or emotional
pain.
On other side you have toexperience same thing.
This is we call educationalprocess.
This is how we learn.
And um, they show me a germanofficer who was responsible for
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one of the gas chambers he wassentencing.
They showed me thisconcentration camp where they're
taking Jewish people to the gaschamber and every person he
sentenced to it.
He had to experience what theyexperienced.
And when I look at him, I spoketo his spirit guide experienced
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.
And when I look at him, I spoketo his spirit guide.
They said we don't think he can.
He will come right out of sucha horrendous experience.
So this type of souls, theycan't be repaid.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So does that mean that the people who commit
suicide also go there?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Let me give you a story of no, there is not one
place where people go.
It's not one-dimensional, it's7 billion people, 7 billion
places to go.
Fourth-dimensional reality,which we call metaphysical world
, is humongous.
It's at least 100 times biggerthan our physical world.
So let me give you an example.
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I'm telling you the story forthe permission of the family who
reached me.
Mother called me from Norway andsaid we want to have a session
with you and I said what is theproblem?
And they were in a hurry.
They said please, we need itquickly to speak to you.
She said we had the Romeo andJuliet story.
I said what, romeo?
What are you talking about?
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She said my son was in lovewith the one girl, 15-year-old
teenagers.
She committed suicide and hekilled himself right after.
Two weeks later he went afterher.
Please tell us what happened,where they are, we want to know.
And then I saw them in a goodplace.
I said they show, like theyshow me where they are now
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currently.
And then I told them they're ina good place, they're together.
Like he had to go and becauseshe went, the love was so strong
he couldn't stand behind.
So that session was done, shewas very positive.
And then months later, fathercontacted me and then when I
spoke to father, then they showme the entire story, what
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actually happened, and Irealized that girl being
immigrant and they what do youcall it?
What they believe in it wasn'tcorrelating with what belief
system of the boy and the familywas against for them to be
together, so they tried toprevent them seeing each other
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and I saw father also wasn'ttreating daughter well.
I didn't want to go into manydetails with the family.
Eventually she had to hangherself to end it and then right
after and she went to the darkplace.
I saw the place like kind ofalmost like a jail cell, but
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with no light and dumpy place.
Yeah, she was sitting there andscared and didn't understand
what's happening, why I'm hereregretting what she's done.
And then after the funeral,after her funeral a week later,
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boy hanged himself on the sametree.
This is a session which I haveto deal with.
And then he showed me, he wentafter her and he managed to
bring her out from the hell.
And then they show me reception.
It was a big table with a whitecloth about come, with lots of
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goodies on it, that chairs,people all dressed in white.
They, like I said what's goingon?
What they, what is standingwith a waiting for?
And then, very, that verymoment, the forest came apart
and this couple stepped forward.
She was dressed all in white.
So on the other side theyorganized a wedding for them.
And all this I see as a movie.
And when I told them what I cansee and the idea was, they came
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together.
They take this incarnation, theplanet Earth.
They take this incarnation, theplanet Earth.
She had a tough life to changefrom one reality and religious
system to a new world.
They've been immigrants.
And he came after her to helpher to go through the transition
.
So once she was out, for him itwas no purpose to stay behind,
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he had to go after her.
He was basically her guardianangel who took a role of a
boyfriend to help her to gothrough transition.
But once she was out he wentright after her basically to
rescue her.
So would you say we're allsuicide going to one place?
No, we can talk so much about,if you're interested, what is a
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suicide and why people do it.
If you're interested, what is asuicide and why people do it?
When we take life, for example,we agree to the tough life.
Then we're leaving.
Windows can be one or twowindows, and then while you're
living like you're born in apoint A, you have to exit in
point B.
This is full of your lifespanand then you know, in some way
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in this age you are going toencounter difficulties,
especially I'm talking aboutkids with a gender problem, with
a gender identity, who see whythey don't belong to their body
Once they approach the window.
To step out of the window isthe most natural thing for them
to do.
This is where they can commitsuicide very easily.
It's too tough, they can'thandle the out.
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It's a part of the contract.
That's why they're so easilyending their life.
Once you finish past that point, then you will go to the end.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You know, arthur, this is a pretty heavy topic,
right, but it's incredibly heavyand controversial on another
level.
But one thing that throughoutmy life you know, reading books
and talking to too many peoplesometimes people will say that
(30:41):
and this is I'm just saying thisgoing by from things that I've
heard from people that a childwho you know explains that they
are feeling like they're not.
You know they're, they're agirl, but they feel like they're
a boy and things of that sortlike being gay or being a
lesbian and things of that sortlike being gay or being a
lesbian.
A lot of people that I've heardsay that it could be a curse on
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the family.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
There is no such a thing as a curse.
There is no such a thing.
You're going to encounter moreof those souls who are coming
with a it's not the gender, whatthey call it, what they call
like.
If they see us as a signal,they see us like okay, let me
explain you this way.
(31:24):
When you're coming, male male,male male all your life, like
warrior, life after life, you'retaking male body and then time
comes they will basically forceyou to take a female body.
And same thing when you'rebecoming female, female,
submissive, this soft energy,creating life but being always
(31:44):
behind the husband, time comesthey're asking you to take a
male body.
So when the swap happens, whenyou take a male body but in your
head you're still femalebecause many lifetimes you've
been female, when you look atyour body you realize I don't
belong to this body.
(32:05):
Always, first life, first swapis most difficult.
One second when you, you'realready getting adopted.
You, you are, you okay to be ina boy and you become very
balanced.
Your feminine, masculine energy, new balance.
You, you can see, um, thosepeople are very people, are very
creative because they, theymanipulate, playing with the
both energies.
Gay people they're verycreative.
Most of my gay customers.
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They've been in a past lifewoman, but they agreed to take a
male body just to boost theircreativity.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But still in the head .
Speaker 1 (32:36):
They feel, they still think that a woman you
understand and they getattracted to the men because
they were always women.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Okay, so the explanation and you're going to
encounter more and more of this.
More of these swaps arehappening now.
This is the beginning of theprocess and they're mostly
arriving to more economicallysteady or more developed
countries because it's easierfor them to be there.
Most brave ones getting born inthe Islamic world because
(33:08):
they're trying to change, tobring that understanding from
inside, like this kind of a yeah, very Most brave ones.
They do that.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, so what you're saying is that it's not a mental
sickness, it's more of livinglike their past lives.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
They were women and now they have to be a man.
They're conflicted.
Yes, because for thousands ofyears this place was a place of
extreme dualities Female, maleenergy, always everything in a
conflict.
That's how it is realitystructured.
That's why we need male energyto create conflict and the
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female energy always behind,trying to localize, to make it
smoother, softer than that, totake care of.
This is a motherly figure.
That's why women were alwayskind of a male doesn't see them
more important figure in theirlife.
This is men's world.
This is world created by men.
Now what's happening?
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Because those men are gettingjumping into the woman body.
First time when they come, it'sharder to adapt yourself,
seeing yourself as a woman.
But second time, when they comeas a woman, they're already
more adept, but they are moreindependent, they're strong,
they fight for the woman, right,yeah, Because those especially
(34:33):
I don't know should I say this?
If you feel it's toocontroversial, you can.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
No, no.
I say this If you feel it's toocontroversial, you can.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
My podcast is all about that, especially lesbian
women who are.
When you look at them, they arevery manly, it's hard to
distinguish, they look like aman.
These are those powerfulwarriors, abusive men who
treated women as like nothingand then, because of what they
did, life after life, they hadto take a woman body to
(35:01):
experience what is it to be awoman.
And with the same urge theywere fighting for the woman's
rights.
They want their independence,they said, because in their head
there are still men, and theywant their place in society or
in the woman's body.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yes, that's why they want their place in society or
the woman body.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
This way we're bringing this humanity, we're
bringing it to balance.
Okay, I'm channeling creatorsnow, creators of this reality.
We need to bring this.
We want to stop, kind of makeless wars, less aggressive,
place this planet.
We need to dilute these twoenergies, masculine and feminine
(35:41):
energies, to tone downmasculine energy and to rise the
feminine energy.
But we can do only by swappinggenders, souls, basically.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's an interesting way of explaining it.
I haven't heard that way, thatthere's this big conflict like
there's this big confusion withthem, that they were past life
like men and now they have to bein these women bodies and
they're conflicted and most ofthem.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
They just want to change it because they're
looking and they say this is notme, I don't belong to this body
.
But next lifetime they willtake to change it because
they're looking and they saythis is not me, I don't belong
to this body.
But next lifetime they willtake same gender and they will
be okay already.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's interesting.
Do you ever come across peoplethat say like you're crazy, you
don't know what you're talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
No, very seldom.
Like very religious people,they will bring the quotes from
the Bible.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, Like how do you deal?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
with that Not even 2% , not even 2%.
I always write I say you'reprobably right, really, of
course.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Because it's something that you genuinely
have.
You feel that you're in that,so that's why it's so it doesn't
matter.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
You must understand there is no ultimate truth,
there is no ultimate right andwrong.
This is what it's, this is myright, and my right could be
completely wrong to someone else.
Who I am to tell you youbelieve, or you're praying to
the wrong god, or you're notdoing what you know it's.
Their journey, is their life,and we all, on different level
of our session, of our evolution, of our consciousness, we all,
(37:19):
yeah, and I, and I think thatthat is the biggest political
fight in the world right now.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Among you know individuals that they're just so
separated that you know thepeople that believe that they
are in their right body, it'stheir right, right, like, yeah,
of course it's your right, youfeel.
But then there's this otherother side, that people well,
your right is trumping my right,what makes you?
You know so, so I, I get it, Isee that I can, I can understand
(37:46):
, I could understand thatbecause that's and I believe, I
believe in people like yourself,because they're, I don't know
like I trust myself and I trustmy instinct, and I know that
this is something that a lot ofpeople might disagree with, and
(38:06):
especially like real, realhardcore I don't want to use the
word hardcore, but people thatare really just fine with their
religion.
They might say well, you know,arthur is psychic, and psychic
is not permitted in theChristian world.
And so how?
I want to ask this question toyou how do you deal with that
(38:29):
conflict?
Do you consider yourself as apsychic?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
No, no, I'm not psychic, I'm just.
This is how I built.
I came to this reality withthis mission.
I came to deliver thisknowledge and that's what I'm
doing.
You must understand knowledgeis.
I always compare knowledge withthe music.
You hear music.
Someone can hear classicalmusic and feel completely
(38:54):
satisfied.
It correlates with your innervibration and someone cannot
stand classical music.
So is the knowledge.
If that knowledge is for you,you will take it in and say, wow
, this is what I need to hear.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It is knowledge, yeah .
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, but if it's not for you, then it's not, then
it's not true to you.
Why am I to tell you like thisis truth for everyone?
No, you've got your own truthand someone else get on, and we
have to learn to coexist in thisworld.
Now, also, it's important tounderstand this reality is like
(39:29):
a school, like 12 levels of theschool.
We are here kids from grade 1to grade 12.
I mean grade 12 looking at thegrade 1, because you're in grade
12, you can't say grade 1 kidsare stupid or they're ignorant.
No, they are in a grade 1.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
This is their time to evolve Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
We have to respect it .
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I think that anybody who has a certain belief has to
respect the other person'sbelief, for sure.
I don't like.
I don't like them interferingeach other.
I want people to really justcoexist and really just be
mindful and respectful of theirbeliefs, for sure.
Um, why do you think that youwere chosen to go through all of
(40:13):
this and be here as the way youare?
I agree to this.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I agree to this.
I step into this.
Before this I had another twoon the planet Earth.
They were quite short.
I died quite young, the firstone I've been killed in a battle
in the 15th century trying toprotect my master of the castle.
I've been, I know, I've seenhow I died.
(40:44):
It was quite honorable deathwith a sword in my hand, fencing
the head facing the enemy gone.
And then next time I've beenhere about around 150 years ago
with the evil, was also mydaughter and we were on a beach.
The big wave came, took her inand jumped into safer and we
both died.
That's what my second exit fromthis reality, and this is the
(41:08):
third one where I came preparedto the mission All this was
previewed to get adapted to thisplanet, to humanity, to
understand how humanityfunctioning, how you're thinking
, how you're operating, not youexactly, but humanity
collectively.
I'm not part I don't see myselfpart of the human world,
(41:32):
collective humanity.
And it gives me opportunity toobserve humanity externally,
because when you're in a problem, you don't see the problem to
observe it.
Me opportunity to observehumanity externally, because
when you're in a problem, youdon't see the problem to observe
it.
You have to step out of youcan't be part of it.
To see entirety of the problemand to find solution.
And to help others to to givedifferent perspectives.
This is what all about to openup um, to help others to see
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your neighbor and to love yourneighbor.
And not only love neighbor,also to love your enemy, like
christ was teaching.
Christ 2000 years ago gave usroadmap how to graduate the
school we call earth.
Just follow what he wasteaching us, how we should live
our life.
And then this reality gotnothing to give you anymore.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You think Christ knew about the dimensions.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I'm saying so.
Christ knew about thedimensions, so it was basically
like guiding us.
As you said, it was like a maphow to be so we can be anymore.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yes, if we can be the way he expect us to be, then
you out, you don't belong tothis reality anymore.
And then, um, I just rememberone thing.
I said I want to ask I don'tknow why I popped in and ask him
so when you're going to come,because everybody's waiting for
his second coming.
He said I never left.
And it was so profound.
(42:59):
He never left.
He said I'm completely aware ofwhat's happening with you and a
part of you, part of those whobelieve in me.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Do you think everybody has that ability to
see Christ?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Those who believe in him.
I spoke to many people.
They're always having this kindof profound experience when
they feel his presence, andthat's what infuses their belief
system and that's why they saidthis is the ultimate truth.
There cannot be any truthexcept this one.
So yeah, but what I had withhim, it was like I didn't expect
(43:41):
it to happen.
I was shocked.
Until now, I'm shocked.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So I'm curious what happens to the atheists?
They have no belief.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Actually my main character, my book protagonist.
He's an atheist and that's howthe book started, when he finds
himself in a limbo, basicallysurrounded with the darkness,
because he didn't believeanything after life and
afterlife is designed to yourexpectations.
(44:13):
If you have no expectations,you will end up in nothingness,
and it takes time for him tounderstand that he's out of his
body and then asking thequestions, like starting to
remember okay, Bible was sayingthe spiritual people was.
As he starts to think about it,what should be here, the things
(44:34):
start to appear Because bycrossing over to the other side,
you can see only those who cameto welcome you, only if you
expect them to see.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So you create it.
You're creating your afterlifeby your belief system.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Basically, yes, even your reality you end up in, you
are in a charge, you're incontrol of your reality.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Are we?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
that powerful On the fourth dimension?
Yes, yes, we are powerful herealso, but on the other side we
are manipulating with the meta.
Meta is basically like kind ofa liquid energy, the power of
your mind enough to createobjects which will be quite
physical for you, but it will beabsolutely not physical for
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those who are in this range ofvibration, in this reality.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
There are six dimensions, correct.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
There are no strict numbers, it's like flowing one
to another.
They're showing me always 12dimensions where 12 is a supreme
creator, creator of universe,creator of multiverse and
everyone.
We are in the third dimension,fourth dimension, which, all
around, surrounding fourthdimension, like all around us,
is like, it's like kind of um,like a russian doll.
(45:50):
That's matryoshka, yeah, thesmallest one, and then goes
another one, another one, butit's it's not like 12, because
once you the three, four, theyintegrate it into each other.
Four dimension, where we gowhen we die and we come back.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
So are we in the third dimension right now?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, we are in third dimensional reality.
There is first, second, andfirst.
The second is quantum world andthe first dimension is
sub-quantum world, which wedon't have idea about now.
We're still trying tounderstand quantum world.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
What about soul?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Okay, it's a good question.
What is a soul?
Soul is a consciousness.
My soul is communicating withyour soul.
That's it.
Your mind is what your soul is,it's energy.
And then, when time comes, wehave to leave this reality
because this biomechanical suitwe're wearing now cannot hold us
anymore our existence on thisplanet.
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So we leave this suit and wemove into the fourth dimension
to take form of spirit, which isanother kind of a suit, and we
look the way we look here.
All over the time, you canadopt more younger look Most of
the souls on the other side.
They're between 25 and 30 yearsold.
So our souls never die yourconsciousness is not now, of
(47:13):
course not.
It's involving.
Let me give you this.
This has come to me before.
I read the poem written by Rumi, famous Sufi, 800 years ago he
wrote.
It shook me, this poem.
He said when I die as a mineral, I become a plant.
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When I die as a plant, I roseas an animal.
When I die as an animal, Ibecome a man.
Why should I worry of death?
When was I less by dying?
So this is the process ofevolution of the soul, or
evolution of consciousness.
So, before you took this body,you've been all the part of this
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creation, but you was part ofcollective consciousness.
And then, when you're ready toadopt and to bring to yourself
self-awareness, individualconsciousness, then you're ready
to step out of animal worldinto the human world, because
now you're separated.
You're someone.
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You're trying to understand whoyou are and where you are.
While animal world isstructured as a collective
consciousness, you are whileanimal world is structured as a
collective consciousness.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
So then, could it be possible that souls sometimes
are guardian angels of ours?
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Okay, this is another big topic.
Sorry, we start using the wordguardian angels.
It's not correct.
We got guardians and we gotangels.
Angels are angelic beings theway we imagine them.
They're the souls who are neverincarnate on the planet Earth.
They've never been in the humanbody.
They are the most loving andmost comforting energy.
(48:56):
Whenever we're in trouble, theyjust step in, make miracles,
something.
Someone will be saved out ofaccident, will come out with no
scratch, jesus, how thishappened.
They're stepping in to save thesituation.
This is angelic beings.
Now, when we're talking aboutguardians, they are different
beings.
Guardians coming with thosesouls or those humans who are
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coming with a great mission tothe planet Earth.
They're coming to affecthumanity on a global level and
they're guarding them.
They are nonjudgmental beings.
The most powerful guardians.
Hitler had I don't know howmany, I don't know 30, 40
assassination attempts, evenmore.
(49:40):
None of them succeeded.
Until he finished with themission, the guardians stopped
back and he was allowed to dieand to go.
So these are like bodyguards.
They don't care who you are.
They are there to protect youwhile you're doing benevolent,
almost benevolent things youcame to perform on the planet
(50:01):
Earth.
So they are guardians and theyare angels.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I see this.
Okay, that makes sense.
Does everybody have guardians?
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Like I said, those who come in with a big mission,
they need protection so they canalways stick to the path to
what they come to do.
Yeah, but they also come withtheir spirit guides.
But guardians are powerful.
I saw like when I see myguardians, I can't see their
heads.
They're so tall.
It's like a marble wall behindmy back when I look up their
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heads in the sky.
That's how big they are.
And I've seen many of peoplewho are doing this type of work.
They are protected and guarded.
It's important for them to dootherwise you will lose it.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Do I have guardians?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
You do, I do, and you're a powerful spirit guide.
Yeah, you are light worker, youlight barrier.
You came to help humanity and,yeah, you're bringing light.
You're bringing, you're like abridge, connecting.
You're finding I'm not talkingabout me interesting people,
bringing like opening up,helping those who are listening
(51:18):
to you, pushing to the nextlevel of awareness, of
understanding.
You are like this motherlyenergy.
Just please listen to what Ihave to say.
Just let me help you with thistoo.
You come with a mission, yeah,you come with a mission.
You come with your gods and youcome with your spirit guides,
not one, I say at least two, thefemale.
(51:40):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
who they are.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
They're both females, really, yeah, very loving.
They're kind of replacing eachother if it's necessary.
They're always present duringthose podcasts you're doing
because, during the podcast also, spirit guides of those who
you're talking to are alsostepping in.
(52:05):
They're interacting with eachother to create this kind of
environment where you can bringmost out of the person you
brought, so you can transcendthis knowledge to those who are
going to watch and to listen toyou.
You're doing very importantwork, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
There has been about two to three times that this
woman comes to my mind and Iwant to talk about this because
you're the perfect person totalk about this with, and I know
people are going to befascinated with this, arthur, I,
I, I'm.
I see a woman.
There's the ocean in front ofme and for some reason, I'm
(52:50):
always connected to the water.
And do you know that?
They're like buddhists?
You know they're.
They're, um, what they wear?
Like that red a thing.
I don't even know what to callit.
I don't want to, I don't wantto disrespect that, but the
Buddhist outfit.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, this orange, kind of yes.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
She's sitting like her feet crisscross like
Buddhists do, and she has longhair like mine and it's white,
and I always see this woman.
This woman is always with meand she's sitting and I can't
see her face.
I could just see her hair andshe's older, like she's in her
(53:31):
late, maybe 70s, and I love herso much and I want to know who
she is your primarial guide.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Your primarial guide, the one who brought you here
and will be till the end withyou, and she will be the first
one to welcome you on the otherside.
The second lady is yoursecondary guide.
Yeah, when the first one has toleave, then she will step in.
Yeah, they're replacing eachother, but the very fact that
she shows herself as an old ladyit was very rare to see a woman
(54:04):
in that age on the other side.
Most of the women, they want tobe young.
Like almost 99% of the womenguys I've seen, they all look
between 30 to 40.
This she wants to show likeshe's a wise, she's an old soul
and you can trust me she's oldyou can trust me.
(54:27):
Yeah, you said she's old, butthat's that's, and that's what
I'm visualizing now because whatyou said, immediately the
picture appears in front of me.
I don't know, yeah, I draw thispicture, just she.
She appeared, but this is allabout settled energy, wisdom.
One word I can say.
It's wisdom and she's guidingyou in.
Okay, she's saying, likepicking the people you should
(54:56):
talk to, like she's veryinvolved in the process choosing
of who you should interact with.
She's very involved in thatprocess, choosing of who you
should interact with.
She's very involved in thatprocess.
She's guiding you.
Suddenly, someone will appear.
This is the one I want to talkto.
And then, yes, yeah, I've donemy work.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
I feel that it's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yes, because you guys , every single one of you, is so
unique.
I've had this from people somany times.
So are you?
Thank you.
So are you is so unique.
I've had this from people somany times, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
So are you, my dear.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
So special, god-given .
I always tell this to people.
I don't know what I'm doing,how I'm coming across these
pages.
Like you, I just stumbled upon.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
She's saying you are the bridge.
See yourself as a bridgebetween two worlds, spiritual
and physical.
You're creating this, many,many bridges, reaching many,
many hearts on different levels.
It's not only between betweenphysical, physical too.
It's like you're creating, likethey're showing me, like I see
the screen, and I see multiplebridges, like up going down,
(56:07):
like everything connecting,connecting, like network.
That's what you're creatingDifferent kind of level of souls
, different backgrounds,different type of knowledge or
belief system understanding.
Yeah, you're just creating thiscrazy network with all your
podcasts and whoever need tohear to listen.
(56:27):
Uh, they will step in and theywill listen.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, you're helping them to go on, uh, on a soul
level, yeah and I I love how yousaid it's all about knowledge,
it's knowledge, and you're soright, arthur it life is like
how the Bible is, it's like auniversity, you know, and so
(56:51):
what is truth today, tomorrow,might be not true or only
partially true.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
What we knew 2000, 3000 years ago, and what we know
, it doesn't mean that's what weknew.
It was wrong.
It's just that that portion,the part of that knowledge we
had there was enough for thattime, and knowledge, always
given to humanity as we're readyto accept it and to use it for
our benefit and not the way weused in World War II almost
(57:20):
destroyed our planet.
So now they're very cautiousand that is why Internet was
introduced to humanity to createcollective consciousness, to
connect.
No matter where you are in theworld, you can find each other
and talk to each other.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
I can literally talk to you for hours, but I do have
one very important question thatin my heart I want to ask you.
(58:02):
I and you've talked about thison your channel and parents do
awful things, like when peopledo bad things when they're
younger whether that be likepedophiles, whether that be just
horrible things and they growup and they have children, do
(58:27):
those bad things fall on theirchildren?
Because there are some peoplethat are just living real awful
life and so I'm curious to knowis it because of the wrongdoing
from their ancestors?
Or like, how do you see that?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Children who get born into this type of families or
the father, abusive father ormother they always grow to be
complete opposite because oncethey experience, they will never
put their children through.
Yeah, every person I spoke to,um, they come up and they open
themselves up and they are mostbeautiful, wonderful parents,
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overprotective parents, becausethey will never let their child
experience what they wentthrough.
But you must remember we're allcoming with many, many
lifetimes behind our shoulders.
We've been through the wars,we've been killed, we've been
perpetrators and we've beenthrough the wars.
We've been killed, we've beenperpetrators and we've been
raped.
So we've done many, many badthings right through the history
(59:30):
of humanity and now it's timeof cleansing, now it's time of
closing the doors.
So these abusive parents whowould have hit their child time
will come in the next lifetime.
He has to experience and thisis what we call healing process.
Once child experience that.
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I've seen guides who arestanding in a corner of the room
and crying and seeing whatfather doing to son and not
interfering.
When you're asking where God inthis equation, why doesn't step
in?
They don't.
They step aside and let ithappen.
To Ray's point of view, it'show we learn Only by
(01:00:13):
experiencing upon us what we putothers through, we are able to
heal ourselves and never do whatwe were doing casually.
Life after lifetime, that iswhat we call quantum leap.
Humanity is changing.
We're awakening too.
We don't want to be who we wereused to be for thousands of
years.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
That's interesting.
So the people who committed bador awful things on people,
they're going to experience thatsame behavior.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yes on people.
They're going to experiencethat same behavior.
Yes, and this is how we helpsouls to heal.
This is the only way.
It's like when you say to yourchild just don't touch the
electricity, you will getelectricity.
No, he still will go and puthis finger at the cell.
So we have to step back and letthem, the child to do it, to
(01:01:05):
experience, and then he willnever come close to the wire or
electrical power.
That's how it works, spiritualworld.
They step aside and, with thetears in their eyes, they have
to observe, look and let thingsto happen and they step in and
deal with whatever is left there, the scrums and pieces starting
to rebuild this child's lifefrom scratch.
(01:01:27):
But yeah, I know many of them.
They speak to me and they'rewonderful parents, wonderful
parents.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, it just breaks my heart to know that there's
not a lot of people whounderstand the importance of
love and kindness.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah but you have to grow, to understand love when
you are a young soul.
But look, I'm living in Africa.
I'm surrounded with so manybaby souls, never mind young
souls.
To understand love, toexperience love, you have to
live at least 40 to 45 lifetimesFrom body to body, from
religion to religion, fromnation to nation, from race to
(01:02:09):
race.
And then, when you're about tograduate the school, then you
only understand what is love andyou can love someone
unconditionally Because, bydefinition, love has no opposite
.
They say the opposite to loveis hate.
By definition, love has noopposite.
They said opposite to love is ahate.
No, love is a pinnacle of allthe emotions a human can ever
experience, all positive andnegative together combined.
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That's what love is.
So what you can suppress andwhat you can let out of you.
That's what you're able tocontrol it, because it's all,
all in us, but you let love tocome through.
And also important, to lovethis reality and to stop judging
it, to see purpose ineverything what's happening
(01:02:53):
around us.
It's for reason.
This is school.
We are here to learn.
Old souls are dealing withemotional terminals, young souls
for them, it's all aboutsurvival.
They are here to survive.
Their bodies are strong,durable, they can eat anything.
They will not affect Old souls.
God forbid, eat something.
(01:03:14):
Immediately get sick Becauseour bodies are very sensitive,
because you cannot be thisattuned, high-vibrational being
with a rough body.
Your body also sensitive andvery vulnerable to viruses, to a
change of environment.
Everything affects you, all theenergies around you affecting
(01:03:34):
you.
And then I travel throughAfrica and you see them and say,
no, all souls will survive onehour in this environment, but
they go through, they live.
This is the way they are Gradeone, grade two, grade three.
So this is basically where I'min school here.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
How can a person know if they are a young or an old
soul, then Is it something thata person can be conscious of?
Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Young soul.
Only old souls can see it.
Because you are observing,you're trying to understand that
a person can be conscious ofYoung souls.
Only old souls can see it.
Because you are observing,you're trying to understand,
like.
I will bring this example mywife always gets upset when I'm
driving around and she seessomeone standing and pissing on
the wall.
How can they do that?
The grace relaxes.
It was a time we were doing thesame thing.
No, never.
(01:04:21):
Yes, nobody born like 50, 60years old will start from the
bottom.
So we've been there, weexperienced that, and now we are
Also.
What is important is, like youngsouls, they got humongous free
will.
They can do whatever they like.
All souls' free will is solimited by your virtues, by your
(01:04:46):
belief systems, by what I cando and what I cannot do, and
you're very compassionate.
You are a very considerateperson.
You will never speak loudly oryou will never do something
which might affect the personnext to you.
You will make yourself moreuncomfortable to make someone
more comfortable.
This is all old souls, Althoughthey're occupying so much space
(01:05:07):
because energy andconsciousness take space, but
just trying to make yourselflike I'm okay, I'm alright here,
just as long as you're alright,they are very considerate
beings, old souls.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I love how you said to make yourself uncomfortable.
I remember when I was sevenyears old, Arthur, we were I
think it was the earthquake theearthquake that it had just
happened, and so we got into thecar of my neighbor and we lived
in Kotaik.
It was Harazdan.
(01:05:41):
I don't know if you know whereHarazdan?
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
is.
We lived in Kotaik, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Harazdan.
I don't know if you know whereHarazdan is, near Takhkator, yes
, so I mean we felt it Not asbad as Spitak, of course, but I
remember getting in the car andwe just had to.
Multiple people had to bestuffed in that car and I was
that kid that I remember thespecific grandma.
She came to sit and I, arthur,was trying like to be squished.
(01:06:04):
Just so that she can be socomfortable, I made myself
incredibly uncomfortable theroad to her house down to
Yerevan, just so this woman sitscomfortably.
So I resonate with that becauseI always believed that I'm like
people feel it.
If you're an old soul, you feelit.
(01:06:25):
There's just something aboutyou that you can see and you can
feel.
You know, you just know youjust feel it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
You've been around, you experience everything.
Most of the old souls are herenot because they got karmic
debts to pay.
They are here to help humanity.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yes, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
They are teachers here.
By just being on the planetEarth, by living the way they do
, by acting the way they act,the young souls look at them and
say, yeah, I want one day to belike them.
I'm not talking about wealth,about caring yourself, about
behavior, general behavior.
And you look at them and say,no, no, no, this is a right
(01:07:08):
Somehow.
You know, this is how youshould behave, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
How old do you think you are I?
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Can we know that no?
Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
There's no way of knowing that it will freak you
out.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'm not from this reality.
I'm not from this.
I'm just a visitor.
I'm just a visitor.
I just came to.
I'm just a messenger, that's it, just a messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
That's beautiful, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Nothing more, nothing less.
Yeah, that's how I see myself.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Thank you, my dear.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
It was such an honor to talk to you.
You are a very special personyou are, and I want you to know
that You're special.
You are and your family is veryspecial.
All of you just so kind and Ionly.
You know I'm a very reservedperson, I, but instantly I had
(01:08:12):
like this beautiful connectionwith your daughter.
She's so like wonderful and sofree and I love families like
that and I literally am just inawe of how kind and wonderful
you are and I thank you for thisinvitation.
It was an honor to speak withyou and, yeah, I'm just blown
(01:08:33):
away, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Thank you, my dear Thank you, for having me and for
this opportunity.
Absolutely, keep going.
I will Enjoy your stay on thisplanet.
We're all temporary, we're allpassing by.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I love how you say that as a joke.
Enjoy your stay on this planet.
That's so beautiful.
Thank you, thank you, my dear.
And then right after and she went to the dark place.
I saw the place like kind of aalmost like a jail cell, but
with no light and dumpy place.
She was sitting there andscared and didn't understand
what's happening, why I'm hereregretting what she's done.
And then, after a funeral aweek later, boy hanged himself.
(00:23):
Same tree after a funeral weeklater, boy hanged himself same
tree hello everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thank you for joining me.
Today's episode is with arArthur Tadevosian.
Now Arthur does not live here,he lives in South Africa and he
is an amazing human being andsuch a great person and
wonderful guide.
I loved our episode because inthis episode we talked a lot
(01:00):
about the afterlife.
We talked about souls.
We talked about what happenswhen we pass, what happens to
our ancestors.
Can we see them?
Can we feel them?
Do they talk to us?
We talked about guides.
We talked about angels, wetalked about guardians, and so I
know that a lot of you arereligious and you don't really
believe in this part of theworld, and but I just wanted to
(01:22):
bring him on because I thinkhe's such an amazing,
knowledgeable individual andsuch a wise person and I I
definitely believe, and I I knowthat there's people out there
who do have this sense and whowho sixth sense, if you want to
call them, and they can honestlyfeel energy, feel souls, and so
(01:42):
I'm such an awe of this episodebecause he puts a lot of the
things that I was believing andquestioning into perspective,
and so I think he really doeshelp a lot of individuals with
that are stuck and that reallywant answers and I'm just
honored he accepted myinvitation.
He was on my show.
So definitely look out for thispodcast If you do want to talk
(02:06):
to someone who has theseabilities.
And what's interesting aboutthis episode?
That he said schizophrenia inthere and I want you guys to
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Enjoy this podcast with ArthurTadevosyan.
Arthur, are you nervous withArthur?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Tadevosian Arthur are you nervous?
No, no, I get used to italready.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know Che.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
In the beginning I used to sweat, yeah, in the
beginning it wasn't easy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Very hard.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I know.
No, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's not.
There's like a lot of peoplelike looking at you, following
you, really like your wordsmatter, so it's a big
responsibility.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, that's what I feel.
You have to wear your wordsbefore you say something and
then it can resonate.
I don't know, sometimes peopleget upset, should I say?
But then generally, like 90%are welcoming this knowledge.
(04:05):
So many people are asking whatis it?
It's belief.
I always say this is not belief, it's just the knowledge.
And when they ask where thisknowledge come from, we call it
fifth dimensional consciousness,when you know what you need to
know without knowing anything.
Not what you want to know, butwhat you need to know without
(04:27):
knowing anything.
Not what you want to know, butwhat you need to know.
So, on a need-to-know basis,I'm doing downloads basically
every day, and then thequestions are what is most
important?
Because, I can ask manyquestions, but you cannot ask
all of them, because to me,knowledge is infinite and when
somebody appears and asks thequestion, I say I never thought
(04:50):
about it.
Okay, let me think about it.
Sometimes the answer comesimmediately, sometimes it comes
next morning.
But yeah, so this is where I amnow.
In the last 10 years I can sayyeah.
Yeah, so my life is changingdrastically.
I'm thinking now I'm closing myfactory, it's taking completely
(05:12):
me.
I just can't be in two placesanymore.
I just I have to prioritizewhat I'm doing now and this is
not.
It's like the universe pushingme into this, onto this path.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, Well, I'm already a long time, arthur,
when you are so mindful.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Do we call them channels?
Is that what we call them?
Yeah, it's conscious channeling.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Conscious channeling.
Yeah, that's exactly what wecall it.
When you are in your consciouschanneling, I just imagine, do
you ever get tired, Like are youever mentally just drained and
exhausted?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know where I get drained when I'm doing sessions,
and I'm doing two to threesessions a day.
I get drained when they'reasking to check on someone who
committed suicide or someone whois on the other side, but in a
low dimensional realms theycan't reach me.
(06:12):
I have to go to reach them.
So basically you're going intothe dark places and then you're
trying to get information wherethey are, what they're doing
there, and especially when it'snot one person they want and
they're asking another person,another person Like when I
thought on a fourth person Ifeel like I have no more energy
(06:32):
because some clients, they justthey got this 45-minute
opportunity to find out aboutall their relatives on the other
side and they're using it tomaximum and this is what drains
me.
But when I reach out to someonein a high-dimensional realm,
like someone who livedrighteously and they're in the
(06:54):
light, it's such a pleasure tobe around them Me too.
Sometimes they step into myroom, sometimes they can step.
Almost.
I feel like I'm becoming them,because it's so much love
pouring through me to the personI'm talking.
I just want to grab the cellphone and to hug them.
(07:15):
That's the feeling coming whenthey're missing so much each
other.
The strongest connection islove.
Yeah, and that is veryrejuvenating.
I'm like 45 minutes.
I'm not even feeling better, soit's sometimes right, it's like
I learned.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I learned that, uh, from reading about spirituality,
that it life is about duality,when you give energy but you
also have to take energy.
So if you're constantly givingand giving and giving to your
clients and it's like negativerealm, what is that going to do
to you?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's a good question, because they're always
teasing me.
I'm structured, I'm wireddifferently, like, if you tell
me who I had a session in themorning, I won't be able to tell
you.
It just comes and goescompletely.
Even my room during the sessionin the morning I won't be able
to tell you, it just comes andgoes completely.
Even my room during the sessionsometimes gets filled with the
spirits.
I can see spirit guides, I cansee person from other side.
They're like all around here,session's gone, they're all
(08:14):
disappearing.
That's how it works, gosh, andit helps me.
It's helping me.
Nothing actually settles andGod forbid if I had someone
connected on the other side whocommitted suicide, and Grace
always want to know, asking if Itell it will stay with her
forever.
She cannot forget it.
So I try to give as much asless information as possible.
(08:36):
Yeah, because she's veryempathic.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, that's one of the questions that I have,
because I have read a lot aboutorchid children I think they're
called indigo individuals wherethey're just so sensitive and in
tuned.
But we'll get into that lateron.
(09:03):
What I want to know is what hasled you to be in this space
Like?
Were you always connected tothe other side, as we call it?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, I wasn't what happened.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
One thing I know from young age.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I know one thing Many times I used to get sick, very
often when I was five, six yearsold, and every time when my
temperature was coming hitting40 degrees, we call it zarantzel
.
I don't know how you say it inEnglish.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hallucinations from the high fever.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Hallucinations.
And when I was coming back,first feeling was I was so
disappointed I wanted to die.
I don't know why.
There always was a blue doorfor me there on a white wall,
and I was always trying to findthe door.
It was a time I was reaching,almost opening the door, like to
go back where I come from.
And then, as I grow older, thedoor has disappeared, but the
(09:55):
feeling is still there.
When I get sick I just want togo, I don't want to come back.
And when I came to South AfricaI was employed by a Portuguese
man who was very spiritual andhe's the one who started to
speak to me.
It suddenly is like he flickedthe switch in my head, in my
brain, and then, whatever he wastelling me, I was like a sponge
(10:17):
, listening, listening.
And then time comes I realizethere is more to it.
But I didn't know a way to getinformation and I start to it.
But I didn't know a way to getinformation and I started to
read.
But being in an English-speakingcountry, I didn't have any
English.
I had no English at all.
So I started to readphilosophical books.
(10:37):
I thought I would find myanswer there.
So I went through allphilosophical books, all
religious books, everything Icould get my hands on, and still
I wasn't finding answers.
And then I started to findspiritual books, still wasn't
satisfied.
And then I asked myself, whatthe hell am I looking for
actually?
And I realized I want to knowwhat happens once we cross over,
(10:59):
because I knew, always knew,that I got something to give,
but I don't know what is it.
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, it was.
Yeah, the biggest downloadhappened in one day.
I heard a voice in my head LikeI had like two people talking
to each other and it wasn'tscary.
It was like interesting, likeyou connected to someone, like
tipping into someone'sconversation on the phone, and
(11:30):
then I realized I need to writedown whatever they're talking
about.
So I grabbed the pen paper andstarted to write without knowing
what the hell I'm actuallywriting.
And then I the English methodlanguage.
I can't spell English word tosave my third language at the
counter.
Spell English were to sell mylife, but it was coming in
English.
That was too forced to write inEnglish.
(11:52):
And I've the first chapter ofmy book I wrote without even
knowing if I were going to beable to read it, what I'm
writing, because I didn't haveglasses.
The grace was upstairs and thenwhen I finished, the Grace put
my glasses on to see what did Iwrite there and she came up and
said what happened?
I said let me see.
And I said I managed.
I can read whatever I wrote.
(12:13):
First I thought it would bedialogue between two characters,
something short, like somethingI would like kind of channeling
is given to me so I can learnmore.
But then it's become so hecticI was writing day and night, in
the middle of the night like Icouldn't wake up until three
o'clock.
Keep writing, writing, and it'sgetting.
It's like six, seven monthslater first book was done.
(12:35):
When I finished I said thankyou very much, I've done what
you wanted me to do.
Can I have my life back?
Because I was writingeverywhere, like in a cafeteria,
in a restaurant, at work.
My work was suffering, Icouldn't be in a factory.
So, um and I, I and they werestepping into my life, like
taking completely over me, andeverything they experienced I
(12:57):
was they make put me through.
I could have laughed, I couldhave cried.
Grace thought I'm losing mymind.
She was very worried about me.
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking toomuch, okay, no, no no, this is
very interesting.
Yeah, when I finished the firstbook, in between chapters in my
(13:21):
manuscripts, the poetry keptcoming.
I was writing a chapter and onepoem Poetry.
Yeah, poetry kept coming.
I was writing a chapter andthen one poem Poetry.
Yeah, in English, a chapter andthen poetry, and then sometimes
characters were speaking toeach other in poetic form, like
kind of a Shakespearean, kind ofa.
It was also weird.
So I'm writing a poem poetrynow, and then it goes to the
(13:43):
normal way of writing.
It was a now and then goes tothe like I don't know what's the
normal way of writing andthey're like.
It was crazy experience and Iasked myself what the hell is
going on?
Who is this?
And I wrote down one next toyou speaks through you, and then
I realized like someone therestanding speaking through me and
delivering message.
(14:03):
So every character steps intothe book, I feel their presence,
I could hear their voice, Icould see their dialect.
They all had specific way ofspeaking.
Yeah, and Italian, portuguese,the accents, and then Italians
(14:24):
was using Italian words which Ididn't know meaning.
So when I finished with thefirst book, I asked my daughter,
eva.
I said please, eva, just typein the proper English so someone
else except me can read what Iwrote.
So she was typing and she keptsaying look look up to the word.
And I said this is what I hear.
She said there is no word likethis.
I said this is what I hear.
(14:49):
She said that there is no wordlike this.
I said please check it.
It should be, and then shecould have googled.
It says, yeah, there is anEnglish word, but no one using
these words anymore.
So this strange words keepcoming, which I had to write
without knowing even meaning ofthose words.
Yeah, so it was like kind of acrazy experience.
No, it's.
It's, it's very pleasant.
It was a pleasant experience.
You feel like you're guided,you feel like this warm energy
(15:11):
around you and every time beforeI was writing in this room, I
hear this knock and I know it'stime to write.
And when it's done with thechanneling, I hear this and I
know it's over.
So it was constant interactionwith the channeling.
I hear this and I know it'sover.
So it was constant interactionwith the spiritual world, with
those who had.
Basically, I realized these arethe people who once lived on the
(15:33):
planet earth and they crossedto the other side.
Now, through me, they wastrying to give to the public, to
the people who read the book,their life story, story of their
life, what they went throughwhen husband died and crossed
over and wife stayed behind, howthey interact with each other,
what husband was experiencing onother side.
(15:54):
So basically it's a novel.
So when I finished with thefirst book I said thank you very
much, I'm done.
I kind of wanted my freedomalready.
And then four or five monthslater I realized I was coming
back again.
So it's not over, now you haveto write again.
And I said, great, seems likethe second book coming, I have
to write.
She said, okay, I understand,just keep doing.
(16:17):
And then let's see what willhappen.
And I realized you willunderstand this and I realized
you will understand this.
I was drawn into the LeninaGunn earthquake.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh, my gosh Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, I'll do this once again.
Yeah, Basically the story of onefamily who went through the
experience and a young man whoexperienced loss, of one family
who went through the experienceand the young man who
experienced loss of his family,his pregnant wife and daughter.
And they come through thesecond book and that was very
(16:55):
difficult for me to write.
It was becoming personal andbecause I was present, I saw
what happened there and they,like was using all what I
emotionally went through it wentinto the book, but through
their perspective, through theperspective of spiritual world,
what happened to those whocrossed over in that moment, how
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they get separated from theirbody and where they went.
So, yeah, that was the secondbook.
It was difficult but I finishedit.
It took about two years to writeand then when I realized
there's nothing else to give,all right, a couple of months
later again I felt there's morecoming to it and I kept writing
(17:42):
and then, in the middle of thethird book book, everything
disappeared.
Voices were gone, imagesbecause it works with voices and
images, dialogue was very easyfor me to write because I could
hear what they're talking about.
It's kind of a schizophrenia,but control schizophrenia, you
can let them in.
Yeah, this is what exactly it is, but I could control them.
(18:06):
You know, like, if I don't wantto write, I don't.
Yeah, this is what exactly itis.
Yeah, but I could control them.
You know, like, if I don't wantto write, I don't, I would say
okay leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That is so interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And in the middle of the third book, yeah, stopped
for seven months, dead, quiet.
Now you feel like lost child,you know, like you had all this
uh energy around, protectiveenergy, guiding energy, and then
suddenly everybody left you.
I was lost.
And then grace keep pushing me,aren't you going to finish your
book?
I said grace, nothing to write.
I could have sit with, like,like, anyway, that, just give me
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anything, not not one word.
And then I remember I was in abookstore and I find myself in
front of the section of thereligious books and I look at
the Bible.
I said I realized I didn't readBible in English.
I said okay, let me.
I feel I need to buy the Bible.
I said great.
So she said Bible.
I said yes, okay, I said that'sfine.
(19:03):
Tell me about the Bible.
I said Grace.
I said Bible.
I said yes, okay, I said that'sfine.
The Bible is on my table nowand I start to read it and I
feel I need to read the NewTestament, the four Gospels Mark
, matthew, john, luke.
As I finish four Gospels,voices come back, but with such
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a force and such a power.
And then I realized I have towrite about Christ.
And it was a shock.
It was kind of scary becausefor me, christ was just.
I didn't see him the way he is.
I thought he's just anothermessenger, another prophet who
came share with his wisdom, withhis knowledge.
(19:46):
We picked up on it and, yeah,we created religion.
And then, when I started tochannel him, it was the most
unbelievable experience.
I was crying.
I felt his presence in my room.
I know it's only a tiny part ofhis energy.
No one can handle that muchlove.
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No human can.
It's just a tiny part of it.
Energy was enough for me.
Like you, want to go on yourknees and to grab his feet and
just to cry, like a child whofinds his lost parent.
This is the feeling you'reexperiencing in his presence.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
feeling Until now I'm getting overwhelmed.
I was writing about three, fouryears ago, but it feels like it
was yesterday.
He's humongous, he's power,he's love.
He's forgiveness.
He's everything I understand.
He's God.
He is forgiveness.
He's everything I understand.
(20:45):
He's God, he is God.
I never saw him as a God andthen I had a dialogue with him.
The half of the book is justquestions and answers, questions
and answers.
He took me around.
He showed to me his reality,his non-physical world, how it's
structured, how the soulsarrive to his reality, how they
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get accommodated, educationalprocess, where they go.
And then I always was saying Idon't believe in hell.
There is no hell.
There can't be because God islove.
And then, in the duration ofconversation, a word came around
and I said but I'm sure thereis no hell.
(21:29):
He said do you want to see itBefore?
I said is there hell?
He just grabbed my hand andpulled me down and we flew down
and I'm falling down.
I don't know where I'm fallingto.
And I realized I'm falling tothe planet and I see it's
getting bigger.
I realize I'm falling onto theplanet Earth and I just praised
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myself.
I said now it's going to be ahorrendous impact.
This is what I'm writing andI'm feeling and I'm seeing these
pictures.
And then the moment was whatimpact was going to happen.
We just went through the planetEarth, through the crust, into
the center of the planet Earth,and then we arrived to the
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humongous doors and it was kindof scary.
And then we pushed the doorsopen under the heat.
I said no, this can't be.
All my life I knew there is nohell.
And when I asked him, how is it, how it can be, how you can
create this?
No, no, no.
He said we didn't create this.
Humanity created this bybelieving into something you
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manifested into reality.
And for thousands of years wekept maintaining this place
because those souls who believethey belong to hell they always
end up in hell, no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
By just being bad and doing bad things.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, no, it's by judging yourself harshly,
believing that you're not arighteous person and you don't
belong to heaven.
This is enough to end up in abad place.
It's not all bad people.
Self-criticism.
He showed me seven levels ofheaven, very similar to what
Dante Alighieri was showing inhis Divine Comedy.
(23:17):
Very similar Seven levels, butit was going like spiraling down
.
And I asked who is on thebottom level?
They said this is the souls,who are basically beyond
repairing.
I said what's going to happento them?
He said there will be thesource.
The creator will take them back, they will be diluted into
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energy of source, supremecreator.
And I said isn't it going toaffect him?
He said no, it's like a drop ofthe dirty water into the ocean.
It's not water into the ocean,it's not.
This is the one who, mentally,beyond fixing, beyond re, how do
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you say it, yeah, beyond repair, beyond repair.
They've done so many bad things.
They've done so many bad thingslike they are.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
To themselves.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
They cannot forgive.
Now to the other people.
You see how the fourthdimensional reality is
structured.
If you hurt someone, you causedsomeone physical or emotional
pain.
On other side you have toexperience same thing.
This is we call educationalprocess.
This is how we learn.
And um, they show me a germanofficer who was responsible for
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one of the gas chambers he wassentencing.
They showed me thisconcentration camp where they're
taking Jewish people to the gaschamber and every person he
sentenced to it.
He had to experience what theyexperienced.
And when I look at him, I spoketo his spirit guide experienced
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.
And when I look at him, I spoketo his spirit guide.
They said we don't think he can.
He will come right out of sucha horrendous experience.
So this type of souls, theycan't be repaid.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So does that mean that the people who commit
suicide also go there?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Let me give you a story of no, there is not one
place where people go.
It's not one-dimensional, it's7 billion people, 7 billion
places to go.
Fourth-dimensional reality,which we call metaphysical world
, is humongous.
It's at least 100 times biggerthan our physical world.
So let me give you an example.
(25:33):
I'm telling you the story forthe permission of the family who
reached me.
Mother called me from Norway andsaid we want to have a session
with you and I said what is theproblem?
And they were in a hurry.
They said please, we need itquickly to speak to you.
She said we had the Romeo andJuliet story.
I said what, romeo?
What are you talking about?
(25:54):
She said my son was in lovewith the one girl, 15-year-old
teenagers.
She committed suicide and hekilled himself right after.
Two weeks later he went afterher.
Please tell us what happened,where they are, we want to know.
And then I saw them in a goodplace.
I said they show, like theyshow me where they are now
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currently.
And then I told them they're ina good place, they're together.
Like he had to go and becauseshe went, the love was so strong
he couldn't stand behind.
So that session was done, shewas very positive.
And then months later, fathercontacted me and then when I
spoke to father, then they showme the entire story, what
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actually happened, and Irealized that girl being
immigrant and they what do youcall it?
What they believe in it wasn'tcorrelating with what belief
system of the boy and the familywas against for them to be
together, so they tried toprevent them seeing each other
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and I saw father also wasn'ttreating daughter well.
I didn't want to go into manydetails with the family.
Eventually she had to hangherself to end it and then right
after and she went to the darkplace.
I saw the place like kind ofalmost like a jail cell, but
(27:20):
with no light and dumpy place.
Yeah, she was sitting there andscared and didn't understand
what's happening, why I'm hereregretting what she's done.
And then after the funeral,after her funeral a week later,
(27:41):
boy hanged himself on the sametree.
This is a session which I haveto deal with.
And then he showed me, he wentafter her and he managed to
bring her out from the hell.
And then they show me reception.
It was a big table with a whitecloth about come, with lots of
(28:07):
goodies on it, that chairs,people all dressed in white.
They, like I said what's goingon?
What they, what is standingwith a waiting for?
And then, very, that verymoment, the forest came apart
and this couple stepped forward.
She was dressed all in white.
So on the other side theyorganized a wedding for them.
And all this I see as a movie.
And when I told them what I cansee and the idea was, they came
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together.
They take this incarnation, theplanet Earth.
They take this incarnation, theplanet Earth.
She had a tough life to changefrom one reality and religious
system to a new world.
They've been immigrants.
And he came after her to helpher to go through the transition
.
So once she was out, for him itwas no purpose to stay behind,
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he had to go after her.
He was basically her guardianangel who took a role of a
boyfriend to help her to gothrough transition.
But once she was out he wentright after her basically to
rescue her.
So would you say we're allsuicide going to one place?
No, we can talk so much about,if you're interested, what is a
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suicide and why people do it.
If you're interested, what is asuicide and why people do it?
When we take life, for example,we agree to the tough life.
Then we're leaving.
Windows can be one or twowindows, and then while you're
living like you're born in apoint A, you have to exit in
point B.
This is full of your lifespanand then you know, in some way
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in this age you are going toencounter difficulties,
especially I'm talking aboutkids with a gender problem, with
a gender identity, who see whythey don't belong to their body
Once they approach the window.
To step out of the window isthe most natural thing for them
to do.
This is where they can commitsuicide very easily.
It's too tough, they can'thandle the out.
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It's a part of the contract.
That's why they're so easilyending their life.
Once you finish past that point, then you will go to the end.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You know, arthur, this is a pretty heavy topic,
right, but it's incredibly heavyand controversial on another
level.
But one thing that throughoutmy life you know, reading books
and talking to too many peoplesometimes people will say that
(30:41):
and this is I'm just saying thisgoing by from things that I've
heard from people that a childwho you know explains that they
are feeling like they're not.
You know they're, they're agirl, but they feel like they're
a boy and things of that sortlike being gay or being a
lesbian and things of that sortlike being gay or being a
lesbian.
A lot of people that I've heardsay that it could be a curse on
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the family.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
There is no such a thing as a curse.
There is no such a thing.
You're going to encounter moreof those souls who are coming
with a it's not the gender, whatthey call it, what they call
like.
If they see us as a signal,they see us like okay, let me
explain you this way.
(31:24):
When you're coming, male male,male male all your life, like
warrior, life after life, you'retaking male body and then time
comes they will basically forceyou to take a female body.
And same thing when you'rebecoming female, female,
submissive, this soft energy,creating life but being always
(31:44):
behind the husband, time comesthey're asking you to take a
male body.
So when the swap happens, whenyou take a male body but in your
head you're still femalebecause many lifetimes you've
been female, when you look atyour body you realize I don't
belong to this body.
(32:05):
Always, first life, first swapis most difficult.
One second when you, you'realready getting adopted.
You, you are, you okay to be ina boy and you become very
balanced.
Your feminine, masculine energy, new balance.
You, you can see, um, thosepeople are very people, are very
creative because they, theymanipulate, playing with the
both energies.
Gay people they're verycreative.
Most of my gay customers.
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They've been in a past lifewoman, but they agreed to take a
male body just to boost theircreativity.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But still in the head .
Speaker 1 (32:36):
They feel, they still think that a woman you
understand and they getattracted to the men because
they were always women.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Okay, so the explanation and you're going to
encounter more and more of this.
More of these swaps arehappening now.
This is the beginning of theprocess and they're mostly
arriving to more economicallysteady or more developed
countries because it's easierfor them to be there.
Most brave ones getting born inthe Islamic world because
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they're trying to change, tobring that understanding from
inside, like this kind of a yeah, very Most brave ones.
They do that.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, so what you're saying is that it's not a mental
sickness, it's more of livinglike their past lives.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
They were women and now they have to be a man.
They're conflicted.
Yes, because for thousands ofyears this place was a place of
extreme dualities Female, maleenergy, always everything in a
conflict.
That's how it is realitystructured.
That's why we need male energyto create conflict and the
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female energy always behind,trying to localize, to make it
smoother, softer than that, totake care of.
This is a motherly figure.
That's why women were alwayskind of a male doesn't see them
more important figure in theirlife.
This is men's world.
This is world created by men.
Now what's happening?
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Because those men are gettingjumping into the woman body.
First time when they come, it'sharder to adapt yourself,
seeing yourself as a woman.
But second time, when they comeas a woman, they're already
more adept, but they are moreindependent, they're strong,
they fight for the woman, right,yeah, Because those especially
(34:33):
I don't know should I say this?
If you feel it's toocontroversial, you can.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
No, no.
I say this If you feel it's toocontroversial, you can.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
My podcast is all about that, especially lesbian
women who are.
When you look at them, they arevery manly, it's hard to
distinguish, they look like aman.
These are those powerfulwarriors, abusive men who
treated women as like nothingand then, because of what they
did, life after life, they hadto take a woman body to
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experience what is it to be awoman.
And with the same urge theywere fighting for the woman's
rights.
They want their independence,they said, because in their head
there are still men, and theywant their place in society or
in the woman's body.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yes, that's why they want their place in society or
the woman body.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
This way we're bringing this humanity, we're
bringing it to balance.
Okay, I'm channeling creatorsnow, creators of this reality.
We need to bring this.
We want to stop, kind of makeless wars, less aggressive,
place this planet.
We need to dilute these twoenergies, masculine and feminine
(35:41):
energies, to tone downmasculine energy and to rise the
feminine energy.
But we can do only by swappinggenders, souls, basically.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's an interesting way of explaining it.
I haven't heard that way, thatthere's this big conflict like
there's this big confusion withthem, that they were past life
like men and now they have to bein these women bodies and
they're conflicted and most ofthem.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
They just want to change it because they're
looking and they say this is notme, I don't belong to this body
.
But next lifetime they willtake to change it because
they're looking and they saythis is not me, I don't belong
to this body.
But next lifetime they willtake same gender and they will
be okay already.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's interesting.
Do you ever come across peoplethat say like you're crazy, you
don't know what you're talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
No, very seldom.
Like very religious people,they will bring the quotes from
the Bible.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, Like how do you deal?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
with that Not even 2% , not even 2%.
I always write I say you'reprobably right, really, of
course.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Because it's something that you genuinely
have.
You feel that you're in that,so that's why it's so it doesn't
matter.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
You must understand there is no ultimate truth,
there is no ultimate right andwrong.
This is what it's, this is myright, and my right could be
completely wrong to someone else.
Who I am to tell you youbelieve, or you're praying to
the wrong god, or you're notdoing what you know it's.
Their journey, is their life,and we all, on different level
of our session, of our evolution, of our consciousness, we all,
(37:19):
yeah, and I, and I think thatthat is the biggest political
fight in the world right now.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Among you know individuals that they're just so
separated that you know thepeople that believe that they
are in their right body, it'stheir right, right, like, yeah,
of course it's your right, youfeel.
But then there's this otherother side, that people well,
your right is trumping my right,what makes you?
You know so, so I, I get it, Isee that I can, I can understand
(37:46):
, I could understand thatbecause that's and I believe, I
believe in people like yourself,because they're, I don't know
like I trust myself and I trustmy instinct, and I know that
this is something that a lot ofpeople might disagree with, and
(38:06):
especially like real, realhardcore I don't want to use the
word hardcore, but people thatare really just fine with their
religion.
They might say well, you know,arthur is psychic, and psychic
is not permitted in theChristian world.
And so how?
I want to ask this question toyou how do you deal with that
(38:29):
conflict?
Do you consider yourself as apsychic?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
No, no, I'm not psychic, I'm just.
This is how I built.
I came to this reality withthis mission.
I came to deliver thisknowledge and that's what I'm
doing.
You must understand knowledgeis.
I always compare knowledge withthe music.
You hear music.
Someone can hear classicalmusic and feel completely
(38:54):
satisfied.
It correlates with your innervibration and someone cannot
stand classical music.
So is the knowledge.
If that knowledge is for you,you will take it in and say, wow
, this is what I need to hear.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It is knowledge, yeah .
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, but if it's not for you, then it's not, then
it's not true to you.
Why am I to tell you like thisis truth for everyone?
No, you've got your own truthand someone else get on, and we
have to learn to coexist in thisworld.
Now, also, it's important tounderstand this reality is like
(39:29):
a school, like 12 levels of theschool.
We are here kids from grade 1to grade 12.
I mean grade 12 looking at thegrade 1, because you're in grade
12, you can't say grade 1 kidsare stupid or they're ignorant.
No, they are in a grade 1.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
This is their time to evolve Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
We have to respect it .
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I think that anybody who has a certain belief has to
respect the other person'sbelief, for sure.
I don't like.
I don't like them interferingeach other.
I want people to really justcoexist and really just be
mindful and respectful of theirbeliefs, for sure.
Um, why do you think that youwere chosen to go through all of
(40:13):
this and be here as the way youare?
I agree to this.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I agree to this.
I step into this.
Before this I had another twoon the planet Earth.
They were quite short.
I died quite young, the firstone I've been killed in a battle
in the 15th century trying toprotect my master of the castle.
I've been, I know, I've seenhow I died.
(40:44):
It was quite honorable deathwith a sword in my hand, fencing
the head facing the enemy gone.
And then next time I've beenhere about around 150 years ago
with the evil, was also mydaughter and we were on a beach.
The big wave came, took her inand jumped into safer and we
both died.
That's what my second exit fromthis reality, and this is the
(41:08):
third one where I came preparedto the mission All this was
previewed to get adapted to thisplanet, to humanity, to
understand how humanityfunctioning, how you're thinking
, how you're operating, not youexactly, but humanity
collectively.
I'm not part I don't see myselfpart of the human world,
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collective humanity.
And it gives me opportunity toobserve humanity externally,
because when you're in a problem, you don't see the problem to
observe it.
Me opportunity to observehumanity externally, because
when you're in a problem, youdon't see the problem to observe
it.
You have to step out of youcan't be part of it.
To see entirety of the problemand to find solution.
And to help others to to givedifferent perspectives.
This is what all about to openup um, to help others to see
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your neighbor and to love yourneighbor.
And not only love neighbor,also to love your enemy, like
christ was teaching.
Christ 2000 years ago gave usroadmap how to graduate the
school we call earth.
Just follow what he wasteaching us, how we should live
our life.
And then this reality gotnothing to give you anymore.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You think Christ knew about the dimensions.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I'm saying so.
Christ knew about thedimensions, so it was basically
like guiding us.
As you said, it was like a maphow to be so we can be anymore.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yes, if we can be the way he expect us to be, then
you out, you don't belong tothis reality anymore.
And then, um, I just rememberone thing.
I said I want to ask I don'tknow why I popped in and ask him
so when you're going to come,because everybody's waiting for
his second coming.
He said I never left.
And it was so profound.
(42:59):
He never left.
He said I'm completely aware ofwhat's happening with you and a
part of you, part of those whobelieve in me.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Do you think everybody has that ability to
see Christ?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Those who believe in him.
I spoke to many people.
They're always having this kindof profound experience when
they feel his presence, andthat's what infuses their belief
system and that's why they saidthis is the ultimate truth.
There cannot be any truthexcept this one.
So yeah, but what I had withhim, it was like I didn't expect
(43:41):
it to happen.
I was shocked.
Until now, I'm shocked.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So I'm curious what happens to the atheists?
They have no belief.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Actually my main character, my book protagonist.
He's an atheist and that's howthe book started, when he finds
himself in a limbo, basicallysurrounded with the darkness,
because he didn't believeanything after life and
afterlife is designed to yourexpectations.
(44:13):
If you have no expectations,you will end up in nothingness,
and it takes time for him tounderstand that he's out of his
body and then asking thequestions, like starting to
remember okay, Bible was sayingthe spiritual people was.
As he starts to think about it,what should be here, the things
(44:34):
start to appear Because bycrossing over to the other side,
you can see only those who cameto welcome you, only if you
expect them to see.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So you create it.
You're creating your afterlifeby your belief system.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Basically, yes, even your reality you end up in, you
are in a charge, you're incontrol of your reality.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Are we?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
that powerful On the fourth dimension?
Yes, yes, we are powerful herealso, but on the other side we
are manipulating with the meta.
Meta is basically like kind ofa liquid energy, the power of
your mind enough to createobjects which will be quite
physical for you, but it will beabsolutely not physical for
(45:17):
those who are in this range ofvibration, in this reality.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
There are six dimensions, correct.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
There are no strict numbers, it's like flowing one
to another.
They're showing me always 12dimensions where 12 is a supreme
creator, creator of universe,creator of multiverse and
everyone.
We are in the third dimension,fourth dimension, which, all
around, surrounding fourthdimension, like all around us,
is like, it's like kind of um,like a russian doll.
(45:50):
That's matryoshka, yeah, thesmallest one, and then goes
another one, another one, butit's it's not like 12, because
once you the three, four, theyintegrate it into each other.
Four dimension, where we gowhen we die and we come back.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
So are we in the third dimension right now?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, we are in third dimensional reality.
There is first, second, andfirst.
The second is quantum world andthe first dimension is
sub-quantum world, which wedon't have idea about now.
We're still trying tounderstand quantum world.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
What about soul?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Okay, it's a good question.
What is a soul?
Soul is a consciousness.
My soul is communicating withyour soul.
That's it.
Your mind is what your soul is,it's energy.
And then, when time comes, wehave to leave this reality
because this biomechanical suitwe're wearing now cannot hold us
anymore our existence on thisplanet.
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So we leave this suit and wemove into the fourth dimension
to take form of spirit, which isanother kind of a suit, and we
look the way we look here.
All over the time, you canadopt more younger look Most of
the souls on the other side.
They're between 25 and 30 yearsold.
So our souls never die yourconsciousness is not now, of
(47:13):
course not.
It's involving.
Let me give you this.
This has come to me before.
I read the poem written by Rumi, famous Sufi, 800 years ago he
wrote.
It shook me, this poem.
He said when I die as a mineral, I become a plant.
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When I die as a plant, I roseas an animal.
When I die as an animal, Ibecome a man.
Why should I worry of death?
When was I less by dying?
So this is the process ofevolution of the soul, or
evolution of consciousness.
So, before you took this body,you've been all the part of this
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creation, but you was part ofcollective consciousness.
And then, when you're ready toadopt and to bring to yourself
self-awareness, individualconsciousness, then you're ready
to step out of animal worldinto the human world, because
now you're separated.
You're someone.
(48:16):
You're trying to understand whoyou are and where you are.
While animal world isstructured as a collective
consciousness, you are whileanimal world is structured as a
collective consciousness.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
So then, could it be possible that souls sometimes
are guardian angels of ours?
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Okay, this is another big topic.
Sorry, we start using the wordguardian angels.
It's not correct.
We got guardians and we gotangels.
Angels are angelic beings theway we imagine them.
They're the souls who are neverincarnate on the planet Earth.
They've never been in the humanbody.
They are the most loving andmost comforting energy.
(48:56):
Whenever we're in trouble, theyjust step in, make miracles,
something.
Someone will be saved out ofaccident, will come out with no
scratch, jesus, how thishappened.
They're stepping in to save thesituation.
This is angelic beings.
Now, when we're talking aboutguardians, they are different
beings.
Guardians coming with thosesouls or those humans who are
(49:20):
coming with a great mission tothe planet Earth.
They're coming to affecthumanity on a global level and
they're guarding them.
They are nonjudgmental beings.
The most powerful guardians.
Hitler had I don't know howmany, I don't know 30, 40
assassination attempts, evenmore.
(49:40):
None of them succeeded.
Until he finished with themission, the guardians stopped
back and he was allowed to dieand to go.
So these are like bodyguards.
They don't care who you are.
They are there to protect youwhile you're doing benevolent,
almost benevolent things youcame to perform on the planet
(50:01):
Earth.
So they are guardians and theyare angels.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I see this.
Okay, that makes sense.
Does everybody have guardians?
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Like I said, those who come in with a big mission,
they need protection so they canalways stick to the path to
what they come to do.
Yeah, but they also come withtheir spirit guides.
But guardians are powerful.
I saw like when I see myguardians, I can't see their
heads.
They're so tall.
It's like a marble wall behindmy back when I look up their
(50:38):
heads in the sky.
That's how big they are.
And I've seen many of peoplewho are doing this type of work.
They are protected and guarded.
It's important for them to dootherwise you will lose it.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Do I have guardians?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
You do, I do, and you're a powerful spirit guide.
Yeah, you are light worker, youlight barrier.
You came to help humanity and,yeah, you're bringing light.
You're bringing, you're like abridge, connecting.
You're finding I'm not talkingabout me interesting people,
bringing like opening up,helping those who are listening
(51:18):
to you, pushing to the nextlevel of awareness, of
understanding.
You are like this motherlyenergy.
Just please listen to what Ihave to say.
Just let me help you with thistoo.
You come with a mission, yeah,you come with a mission.
You come with your gods and youcome with your spirit guides,
not one, I say at least two, thefemale.
(51:40):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
who they are.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
They're both females, really, yeah, very loving.
They're kind of replacing eachother if it's necessary.
They're always present duringthose podcasts you're doing
because, during the podcast also, spirit guides of those who
you're talking to are alsostepping in.
(52:05):
They're interacting with eachother to create this kind of
environment where you can bringmost out of the person you
brought, so you can transcendthis knowledge to those who are
going to watch and to listen toyou.
You're doing very importantwork, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
There has been about two to three times that this
woman comes to my mind and Iwant to talk about this because
you're the perfect person totalk about this with, and I know
people are going to befascinated with this, arthur, I,
I, I'm.
I see a woman.
There's the ocean in front ofme and for some reason, I'm
(52:50):
always connected to the water.
And do you know that?
They're like buddhists?
You know they're.
They're, um, what they wear?
Like that red a thing.
I don't even know what to callit.
I don't want to, I don't wantto disrespect that, but the
Buddhist outfit.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, this orange, kind of yes.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
She's sitting like her feet crisscross like
Buddhists do, and she has longhair like mine and it's white,
and I always see this woman.
This woman is always with meand she's sitting and I can't
see her face.
I could just see her hair andshe's older, like she's in her
(53:31):
late, maybe 70s, and I love herso much and I want to know who
she is your primarial guide.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Your primarial guide, the one who brought you here
and will be till the end withyou, and she will be the first
one to welcome you on the otherside.
The second lady is yoursecondary guide.
Yeah, when the first one has toleave, then she will step in.
Yeah, they're replacing eachother, but the very fact that
she shows herself as an old ladyit was very rare to see a woman
(54:04):
in that age on the other side.
Most of the women, they want tobe young.
Like almost 99% of the womenguys I've seen, they all look
between 30 to 40.
This she wants to show likeshe's a wise, she's an old soul
and you can trust me she's oldyou can trust me.
(54:27):
Yeah, you said she's old, butthat's that's, and that's what
I'm visualizing now because whatyou said, immediately the
picture appears in front of me.
I don't know, yeah, I draw thispicture, just she.
She appeared, but this is allabout settled energy, wisdom.
One word I can say.
It's wisdom and she's guidingyou in.
Okay, she's saying, likepicking the people you should
(54:56):
talk to, like she's veryinvolved in the process choosing
of who you should interact with.
She's very involved in thatprocess, choosing of who you
should interact with.
She's very involved in thatprocess.
She's guiding you.
Suddenly, someone will appear.
This is the one I want to talkto.
And then, yes, yeah, I've donemy work.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
I feel that it's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yes, because you guys , every single one of you, is so
unique.
I've had this from people somany times.
So are you?
Thank you.
So are you is so unique.
I've had this from people somany times, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
So are you, my dear.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
So special, god-given .
I always tell this to people.
I don't know what I'm doing,how I'm coming across these
pages.
Like you, I just stumbled upon.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
She's saying you are the bridge.
See yourself as a bridgebetween two worlds, spiritual
and physical.
You're creating this, many,many bridges, reaching many,
many hearts on different levels.
It's not only between betweenphysical, physical too.
It's like you're creating, likethey're showing me, like I see
the screen, and I see multiplebridges, like up going down,
(56:07):
like everything connecting,connecting, like network.
That's what you're creatingDifferent kind of level of souls
, different backgrounds,different type of knowledge or
belief system understanding.
Yeah, you're just creating thiscrazy network with all your
podcasts and whoever need tohear to listen.
(56:27):
Uh, they will step in and theywill listen.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, you're helping them to go on, uh, on a soul
level, yeah and I I love how yousaid it's all about knowledge,
it's knowledge, and you're soright, arthur it life is like
how the Bible is, it's like auniversity, you know, and so
(56:51):
what is truth today, tomorrow,might be not true or only
partially true.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
What we knew 2000, 3000 years ago, and what we know
, it doesn't mean that's what weknew.
It was wrong.
It's just that that portion,the part of that knowledge we
had there was enough for thattime, and knowledge, always
given to humanity as we're readyto accept it and to use it for
our benefit and not the way weused in World War II almost
(57:20):
destroyed our planet.
So now they're very cautiousand that is why Internet was
introduced to humanity to createcollective consciousness, to
connect.
No matter where you are in theworld, you can find each other
and talk to each other.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
I can literally talk to you for hours, but I do have
one very important question thatin my heart I want to ask you.
(58:02):
I and you've talked about thison your channel and parents do
awful things, like when peopledo bad things when they're
younger whether that be likepedophiles, whether that be just
horrible things and they growup and they have children, do
(58:27):
those bad things fall on theirchildren?
Because there are some peoplethat are just living real awful
life and so I'm curious to knowis it because of the wrongdoing
from their ancestors?
Or like, how do you see that?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Children who get born into this type of families or
the father, abusive father ormother they always grow to be
complete opposite because oncethey experience, they will never
put their children through.
Yeah, every person I spoke to,um, they come up and they open
themselves up and they are mostbeautiful, wonderful parents,
(59:08):
overprotective parents, becausethey will never let their child
experience what they wentthrough.
But you must remember we're allcoming with many, many
lifetimes behind our shoulders.
We've been through the wars,we've been killed, we've been
perpetrators and we've beenthrough the wars.
We've been killed, we've beenperpetrators and we've been
raped.
So we've done many, many badthings right through the history
(59:30):
of humanity and now it's timeof cleansing, now it's time of
closing the doors.
So these abusive parents whowould have hit their child time
will come in the next lifetime.
He has to experience and thisis what we call healing process.
Once child experience that.
(59:51):
I've seen guides who arestanding in a corner of the room
and crying and seeing whatfather doing to son and not
interfering.
When you're asking where God inthis equation, why doesn't step
in?
They don't.
They step aside and let ithappen.
To Ray's point of view, it'show we learn Only by
(01:00:13):
experiencing upon us what we putothers through, we are able to
heal ourselves and never do whatwe were doing casually.
Life after lifetime, that iswhat we call quantum leap.
Humanity is changing.
We're awakening too.
We don't want to be who we wereused to be for thousands of
years.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
That's interesting.
So the people who committed bador awful things on people,
they're going to experience thatsame behavior.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yes on people.
They're going to experiencethat same behavior.
Yes, and this is how we helpsouls to heal.
This is the only way.
It's like when you say to yourchild just don't touch the
electricity, you will getelectricity.
No, he still will go and puthis finger at the cell.
So we have to step back and letthem, the child to do it, to
(01:01:05):
experience, and then he willnever come close to the wire or
electrical power.
That's how it works, spiritualworld.
They step aside and, with thetears in their eyes, they have
to observe, look and let thingsto happen and they step in and
deal with whatever is left there, the scrums and pieces starting
to rebuild this child's lifefrom scratch.
(01:01:27):
But yeah, I know many of them.
They speak to me and they'rewonderful parents, wonderful
parents.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, it just breaks my heart to know that there's
not a lot of people whounderstand the importance of
love and kindness.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah but you have to grow, to understand love when
you are a young soul.
But look, I'm living in Africa.
I'm surrounded with so manybaby souls, never mind young
souls.
To understand love, toexperience love, you have to
live at least 40 to 45 lifetimesFrom body to body, from
religion to religion, fromnation to nation, from race to
(01:02:09):
race.
And then, when you're about tograduate the school, then you
only understand what is love andyou can love someone
unconditionally Because, bydefinition, love has no opposite
.
They say the opposite to loveis hate.
By definition, love has noopposite.
They said opposite to love is ahate.
No, love is a pinnacle of allthe emotions a human can ever
experience, all positive andnegative together combined.
(01:02:32):
That's what love is.
So what you can suppress andwhat you can let out of you.
That's what you're able tocontrol it, because it's all,
all in us, but you let love tocome through.
And also important, to lovethis reality and to stop judging
it, to see purpose ineverything what's happening
(01:02:53):
around us.
It's for reason.
This is school.
We are here to learn.
Old souls are dealing withemotional terminals, young souls
for them, it's all aboutsurvival.
They are here to survive.
Their bodies are strong,durable, they can eat anything.
They will not affect Old souls.
God forbid, eat something.
(01:03:14):
Immediately get sick Becauseour bodies are very sensitive,
because you cannot be thisattuned, high-vibrational being
with a rough body.
Your body also sensitive andvery vulnerable to viruses, to a
change of environment.
Everything affects you, all theenergies around you affecting
(01:03:34):
you.
And then I travel throughAfrica and you see them and say,
no, all souls will survive onehour in this environment, but
they go through, they live.
This is the way they are Gradeone, grade two, grade three.
So this is basically where I'min school here.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
How can a person know if they are a young or an old
soul, then Is it something thata person can be conscious of?
Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Young soul.
Only old souls can see it.
Because you are observing,you're trying to understand that
a person can be conscious ofYoung souls.
Only old souls can see it.
Because you are observing,you're trying to understand,
like.
I will bring this example mywife always gets upset when I'm
driving around and she seessomeone standing and pissing on
the wall.
How can they do that?
The grace relaxes.
It was a time we were doing thesame thing.
No, never.
(01:04:21):
Yes, nobody born like 50, 60years old will start from the
bottom.
So we've been there, weexperienced that, and now we are
Also.
What is important is, like youngsouls, they got humongous free
will.
They can do whatever they like.
All souls' free will is solimited by your virtues, by your
(01:04:46):
belief systems, by what I cando and what I cannot do, and
you're very compassionate.
You are a very considerateperson.
You will never speak loudly oryou will never do something
which might affect the personnext to you.
You will make yourself moreuncomfortable to make someone
more comfortable.
This is all old souls, Althoughthey're occupying so much space
(01:05:07):
because energy andconsciousness take space, but
just trying to make yourselflike I'm okay, I'm alright here,
just as long as you're alright,they are very considerate
beings, old souls.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I love how you said to make yourself uncomfortable.
I remember when I was sevenyears old, Arthur, we were I
think it was the earthquake theearthquake that it had just
happened, and so we got into thecar of my neighbor and we lived
in Kotaik.
It was Harazdan.
(01:05:41):
I don't know if you know whereHarazdan?
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
is.
We lived in Kotaik, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Harazdan.
I don't know if you know whereHarazdan is, near Takhkator, yes
, so I mean we felt it Not asbad as Spitak, of course, but I
remember getting in the car andwe just had to.
Multiple people had to bestuffed in that car and I was
that kid that I remember thespecific grandma.
She came to sit and I, arthur,was trying like to be squished.
(01:06:04):
Just so that she can be socomfortable, I made myself
incredibly uncomfortable theroad to her house down to
Yerevan, just so this woman sitscomfortably.
So I resonate with that becauseI always believed that I'm like
people feel it.
If you're an old soul, you feelit.
(01:06:25):
There's just something aboutyou that you can see and you can
feel.
You know, you just know youjust feel it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
You've been around, you experience everything.
Most of the old souls are herenot because they got karmic
debts to pay.
They are here to help humanity.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yes, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
They are teachers here.
By just being on the planetEarth, by living the way they do
, by acting the way they act,the young souls look at them and
say, yeah, I want one day to belike them.
I'm not talking about wealth,about caring yourself, about
behavior, general behavior.
And you look at them and say,no, no, no, this is a right
(01:07:08):
Somehow.
You know, this is how youshould behave, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
How old do you think you are I?
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Can we know that no?
Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
There's no way of knowing that it will freak you
out.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'm not from this reality.
I'm not from this.
I'm just a visitor.
I'm just a visitor.
I just came to.
I'm just a messenger, that's it, just a messenger.
Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
That's beautiful, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Nothing more, nothing less.
Yeah, that's how I see myself.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Thank you, my dear.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
It was such an honor to talk to you.
You are a very special personyou are, and I want you to know
that You're special.
You are and your family is veryspecial.
All of you just so kind and Ionly.
You know I'm a very reservedperson, I, but instantly I had
(01:08:12):
like this beautiful connectionwith your daughter.
She's so like wonderful and sofree and I love families like
that and I literally am just inawe of how kind and wonderful
you are and I thank you for thisinvitation.
It was an honor to speak withyou and, yeah, I'm just blown
(01:08:33):
away, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Thank you, my dear Thank you, for having me and for
this opportunity.
Absolutely, keep going.
I will Enjoy your stay on thisplanet.
We're all temporary, we're allpassing by.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I love how you say that as a joke.
Enjoy your stay on this planet.
That's so beautiful.
Thank you, thank you, my dear.
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