Ken Guoin | Water Safety, Toxic Water Risks, Purification of Water | The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast #39

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Can the water you drink actually harm your health? We explore this critical question with Ken Guoin, an esteemed water scientist and engineer behind Ophora Water. Ken sheds light on the alarming presence of harmful "forever chemicals" in our tap water and the potential health risks they pose, from cancer to autoimmune disorders. As we navigate through the complexities of water purification, Ken shares insights from his groundbreaking work, emphasizing the immense health benefits of consuming pure water. This episode promises to equip you with essential knowledge about water safety and inspire you to reassess your hydration habits.

The conversation with Ken doesn't stop at drinking water; we also look into the invisible dangers of tap water used for bathing. Our discussion revolves around how pollutants, including chlorine and pharmaceuticals, are absorbed through the skin, posing significant threats to our health. Ken offers practical solutions, like reverse osmosis systems and shower filters, to improve water quality in your home. Additionally, we tackle the pervasive issue of plastic water bottles, highlighting the potential health risks they pose due to chemical leaching and the environmental impact of single-use plastics.

Ken's pioneering efforts in developing oxygen-infused nanopurified water are a testament to the transformative power of innovation. We delve into the challenges and triumphs of his journey to stabilize and bind oxygen to water, creating a product that enhances energy, skin clarity, and overall well-being. As Ken shares his personal experiences and the compelling benefits of this advanced hydration solution, we are reminded of the critical role pure water plays in our health. Tune in to learn how you can harness these insights to make informed choices for a healthier lifestyle.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're drinking really pure water, it's pulling
and flushing the toxins out ofyour body and it doesn't take
long.
If you took my advice, quitdrinking everything else but
pure water you would notice asignificant difference in two
weeks Significant.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
When you go into a supermarket in Europe, what do
you see first?
You see meat, you see veggies.
In the United States, you gointo a supermarket.
The first thing you see issupplement section.
And that's because we heavilyneed it, because our food is so
compromised, our water iscompromised.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
The reality is, the restaurants want to sell you
their bottled water.
That's one of the reasons theydon't purify their tap water.
You want tap water.
You're going to drink someshitty tap.
You're going to get some shittywater.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
If you're not diagnosing her with cancer and
if you removed it already, whywould you give her radiation?
And he said, well, just to makesure, I said would you do that?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Here we are the wealthiest, richest, most
healthcare in the world and wehad the most sick population.
Our life expectancy rates arefalling, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Hello everyone, thank you for joining me today.
Today's topic was water water,particularly in the United
States of America.
My guest was Ken Gawain.
Ken is a water scientist, anengineer, and he's the founder
of Afora Water.
Ken has been a water scientistfor over 35 years and has
dedicated majority of his lifeto studying water and how to

(01:31):
purify water so that we canconsume good water.
That's very vital for ourhealth.
His discovery was phenomenal.
We talked a lot about hisinvention and his discovery of
Afora water, but we dived rightinto the tap water that we have
in the United States of America,california being the worst

(01:51):
state, that has the worst water,due to the population, of
course, and the density.
I wanted to talk about theUnited States and see if the
United States was truly thecountry that had the worst water
, and it was confirmed that wedo, which is quite scary, I
think, for all of us to kind ofunderstand and relay.
We talked about thepurification process and what

(02:13):
tap water contains and thechemicals the forever chemicals
that we discussed that's in ourwater today is quite scary
leading causes of breast cancer,prostate cancer.
We talked a lot about plasticsand how drinking water in
plastics, what that looks like.
What does this do to our healthand the aftermath of it?

(02:35):
We did dive into the alforaprocess and what is the outcome
of drinking such purified waterand what is the outcome of
drinking not such purified water, and what is the outcome of
drinking not such purified waterand bathing in tap water.
So his answers were phenomenaland I genuinely want everybody
as a family to really listen tothis podcast, because I think

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it's very important foreverybody to know what's in
their water and how to reallycleanse our system with such
chlorine that's built in ourwater even from just bathing.
So stay tuned, make sure tosubscribe, because it's very
important and immense, supportand enjoy this podcast with Ken
Gawain.
Such a good conversation and Iknow you guys are really going

(03:21):
to be hooked to this combo.
Thank you and God blesseveryone.
Ken, thank you so much forjoining me today.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Thank you for inviting me.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Absolutely.
I know we've been talking for agood 30 minutes already, so we
kind of have to like let's justget started.
Let's get started.
Yeah, we were actually talkingabout tap water this is the
whole topic today and bathing intap water, and so my question,
my first question to you is doesthat absorb into our skin?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Big time.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, so do we have like a percentage of?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
that, or the whole 80% of the pollutants that we
come.
Our skin's our largest organ,of course.
Everybody knows that.
So it's highly absorbent.
So 80% of the pollutants we'recoming in contact with every day
is from bathing and showering,as I was describing earlier.
When you shower in our water,chlorine is the big issue.

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Chlorines are known carcinogens, so when you bathe or shower,
after you're done, you have ashell of chlorine on your skin.
Your skin is coated withchlorine and that interacts with
your organic matter in yourbody and it forms what they call
chloramines, which is a highlyhighly carcinogenic material
called chloramines.
So all the skin cancer that'shappening today and it's pretty

(04:44):
rampant today is primarily fromthe chlorine in the tap water
that we're bathing and showeringin.
So it's really important thatyou address that, and there's
really two ways to do it, youknow, for not only do we bottle
our water, but we alsomanufacture and make systems
that make our water and in termsof, at the very least, you want

(05:06):
a good shower filter Right.
They'll remove chlorine,because that's the prime problem
.
So, same with bathing, you wantto remove that chlorine.
Yeah, because, again, ourskin's our largest organ and
it's causing problems.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Would you say that not only bathing with tap water,
but also there are so manyfamilies that are not really
aware of all the foreverchemicals that are in the tap
water.
But what we discussed isthere's just hundreds and
hundreds of chemicals.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
The EPA pages and pages.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
In the United States of America in general, our tap
water here.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
In particular in California, we have some of the
worst water in the country.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
We have the worst water in the country.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And the reason is, if you look at the density of
California, it's pretty much onthe.
I mean, we have the mostpopulous state in the country
and the density of the peoplewhere we live and the density of
the people where we live, youknow, the hardest thing to
remove from the water, the mostdifficult thing, is
pharmaceuticals, and we have apopulation that's addicted to

(06:17):
pharmaceuticals.
I mean, you're bathing in mytestosterone every day.
I'm bathing in your hormones.
I mean that's just a fact andthat's not the bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
What are the bad?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
stuff.
So it's all the pollutantsthat's in the tap water.
There's pages and pages of themand, honestly, the
municipalities, they're doingthe best they can to remove the
pollutants.
They're just not doing enough.
So, like for example inSwitzerland, they're using all
the same technologies that we'reusing to purify their water.

(06:51):
You know the Swiss, they'rejust kind of anal right and they
do a really good job.
So you can do it, but it'sreally expensive to remove.
Municipalities would have torebuild all their infrastructure
to remove all these chemicalsfrom the water, and there's just
a lot of them.
So you know, I tell people tapwater is good for one thing, and

(07:15):
that's putting out fires.
You shouldn't be drinking it, Imean, and you shouldn't even
your pets, I mean cats and dogs.
Particularly Cats aresusceptible to a lot of kidney
issues.
You're killing your pets ifyou're giving them tap water.
So, as we were talking earlier,there's two ways you can address

(07:36):
that.
You can buy our bottled water,of course, which is the best and
it has really really highlevels of oxygen, but you can
also make good water at home.
You have an RO system.
We were just discussing reverseosmosis.
Reverse osmosis is a good placeto start.
But the problem with RO wateris it's pretty much dead acidic
water.

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When you remove everything fromthe water which pretty much RO
does, it takes out all theuseful minerals and some of the
good stuff right.
So at the end of the day, ourwater is dead acidic water.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Which makes cancer grow right.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yes.
So what we do better thananybody is in today's world.
It's easy to purify water.
What we do after we purify thewater is we bring it back to
life by what we callrestructuring it.
We add all the useful mineralsback in, we raise the pH to 8.5.
And we vortex it over a rosequartz crystal and we bring it

(08:35):
back to life.
Water has memory and it hasenergy.
It doesn't like running instraight lines, so we vortex it,
so we truly bring it back tolife.
So the missing component on allthese RO systems that people,
you're drinking pure water.
At the very least, if you'redrinking reverse osmosis water

(08:57):
like you are, you want to besupplementing with good liquid
minerals, because there's nominerals in your water.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, like the liquid IVs and the electrolyte powders
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, Not really those.
I mean electrolytes yeah,they're okay, I mean, but what's
more important is a good mix ofpotassium magnesium, a good
liquid mineral supplement thatyou can add to your water, or
you can purchase a waterrestructuring platform from us

(09:29):
that.
I engineered that you canactually hook up to your RO
system, so the water goesthrough the RO system first,
then it goes through ourrestructuring platform and then
you've got living water at yoursink.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I'm curious.
You've been a water scientistfor over 35 years, correct,
correct.
What got you into this field?
You're so passionate about it?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, what's crazy is this is all I've done all my
life.
So when I was a senior at theUniversity of Michigan, I was in
the Marine Corps.
I grew up kind of on the eastside of Detroit and I wanted to
go to college and I didn't haveany money.
So I joined the service, got myGI Bill, went to the University
of Michigan and while I was atthe University of Michigan I had

(10:15):
to do something else tosupplement my income and I got
in the hot tub business Redwoodhot tub business.
At one point I was the largestmanufacturer of redwood hot tubs
in the world and I ended upgoing into that full time.
But what happened is all theuniversity doctors at the
university of michigan um, I wasselling all these hot tubs and
they didn't like sitting inchlorinated hot tub water.

(10:37):
Who?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
didn't the doctors.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
So they said to me they you know, what can you do
about this chlorine?
We love our hot hot tub.
We don't want this chlorine, soI started doing a deep dive in
it and my very first patent whenI was a senior at the
University of Michigan was achlorine-free pool and spa
system.
It was the best system then.
It still is today.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
What year was this?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
This is back in the early 70s.
My goodness and, honest to God,I downloaded this somehow
because it's what I call thetrifecta, and it was a
combination of ozone, massive UVsterilization and then 33%
food-grade hydrogen peroxide.
So when you combine those threeat the right amounts, it gives

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you nanopurified water which isreally healthy to soak in.
So you have to have an oxidizer.
Chlorine's an oxidizer, so whatwe substituted for chlorine was
the hydrogen peroxide.
So hydrogen peroxide by itselfthe stuff you buy in a store is

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like 1%.
We use 33%, and hydrogenperoxide really is kind of a
miracle drug.
It's not a drug.
The pharmaceutical companiescould figure out a way to make
money with it.
They'd be doing it.
It's relatively inexpensive andit's an organic sanitizer and
an organic oxidizer.

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The only byproduct of hydrogenperoxide is pure oxygen.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
How dangerous is it to consume hydrogen peroxide?
Maybe like a little bit of?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
it A little bit of it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I've heard, actually I've read many articles of
people, data, of people who justconsume one teaspoon a day.
Yes, it just cleans the entireGI system.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I would say once a day would be overdoing it.
But certainly when you gothrough any kind of a detox,
it's a powerful natural oxidizer.
So, yeah, it's really good foryour hair, skin and nails.
So when you come up and soak inour hyper-actionated hot tub,

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it's basically our drinkingwater.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
And you come out squeaky clean because of the
hydrogen peroxide.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I bet.
Now let's talk about what's inour water today.
I think that's before we gointo like a for a water and the
system and how it purifies thewater From all the forever
chemicals.
I'm sure many people are awareand if you guys aren't, it's
actually really important forpeople to do research on these
chemicals.
What is the most dangerous thatyou have?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's the pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
The pharmaceuticals?
Can you tell us exactly?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
what that means.
Well, what it means is okay,the pharmaceutical companies
want people over 30, 40 to beconsuming four to eight
different medications, likestatins, and so you know, we
have a society that's kind ofaddicted to prescription drugs,

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and when you start mixing thosetogether, it creates this
cocktail.
It's just it's all these peopledon't know what all these
chemicals mixed together aredoing.
But if you look at our generalhealth in this country, it's a
mess.
Our health system is a mess,and it's primarily because of

(14:11):
our drinking water.
I mean, people are drinkingthis water.
You know you shouldn't bedrinking one half your body
weight.
I mean.
The other thing is peoplearen't drinking enough water.
Most people are dehydrated.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
What is enough water?
So one half your body weight inounces, so it's not even eight
cups.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, and I talk to people that tell me they don't
even drink water.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yes, I've met people like that and kids?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
it scares the hell out of me because I mean these
kids are like pounding theseenergy drinks and I mean it's
not good.
You know, pure water is whatflushes the toxins out of your
body and God knows we live in atoxic environment.
So how do these pharmaceuticalsget in the water?

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So, you're taking all thesepharmaceuticals, you're peeing.
It's going to the watertreatment plant.
That water's being somewhatpurified and then dumped into
the oceans.
You know, even I live in SantaBarbara, which is a really
pretty pristine town.
But you know, right off thecoast of Santa Barbara, right on

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the coast of Santa Barbara, isa water treatment plant where
literally thousands andthousands of gallons of toilet
water is going in and then aminimal processing and then
dumped in the ocean and thatwashes back up on the beaches,
it gets in our groundwater.
Our groundwater it gets in thegroundwater.
People think well water andgroundwater is the best water,

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used to be not so much anymoreand groundwater is the best
water Used to be not so muchanymore.
We're actually better offbecause a lot of people we're
dealing with have wells and theythink they've got great water
and like, for example, hawaii isa good example.
A lot of people you go toHawaii, you go to Maui.
I mean it's pristine, right.
Well, they used to have all theplantations there for tens and

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tens and tens of years weresprayed.
All those chemicals ended up inthe groundwater.
Groundwater is horrible inHawaii.
It's very toxic, and whenyou're in Hawaii and you're
consuming the water and you'rebathing and showering in it,
you're absorbing all thesechemicals.
And the pharmaceuticals are bad, but all these other forever

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chemicals that are in fromspraying, I mean I'm driving
down the road in Ojai, Ojaiagain is another kind of
pristine area.
And there's a plane spraying allthe avocados with pesticides.
I mean, I don't even want to bedriving through there when
they're doing that so you know,we live in a very toxic world

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and, as I tell people, there's alot we can do and there's
things we can't do.
One of the things we can dothat is in our control is to
flush those toxins out of ourbodies, and that takes pure
water.
The best modality really isdrinking pure water and doing
infrared saunas I mean, that'sthe best combination or soaking

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in our hyper-actionated hot tub.
It's the same thing with thissauna.
We keep our tubs at 102.
And you know it helps to.
You know, get these toxins outof your body.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
What are the results of a human being living in the
United States that bathes in tapwater and drinks not so
purified?
I mean, are they prone to getcancer and autoimmune diseases
Like what?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
are your perspective.
You know people don'tunderstand.
Breast cancer is epidemic.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
It is epidemic.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's epidemic.
We all know women with breastcancer.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Every other woman.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
And it kills all these women.
And I mean you know, it doesn'tmatter how much money you have,
I don't know.
It's like I say, if the diseasedoesn't kill you, the cure will
.
I mean you go to the bestcancer doctors and the best
doctors would tell you if theygot cancer they wouldn't go

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through chemo or radiation.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Radiation oh boy yeah .
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's all about money.
It's all about money.
It's all about money.
You know, these hospitals,cancer pays the bills.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's such a heartbreaking realization.
It is.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
And I mean, if you look at Europe, I mean whenever
I'm buying, so like I like wine,so I like red wine, me too.
I love water and I love redwine.
Amen, but I buy this.
It's called Dry Farms.
I don't know if you've heard ofthem, but I mean it's low sugar
and it's all organic and it'sgrown on small farms all over
the world.

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And you look at one of myfavorite red wines.
It's a cab made here in theUnited States and it's full of
sulfates and chemicals.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
And the aftermath after drinking that the grapes
are all sprayed.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, and you know you can't drink wine that isn't
grown organically In Europe.
We don't have to worry.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
That's right, you know Italy.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And again this obesity thing, if you look at
Italy, I mean they eat all daylong they do, and pasta too, and
pasta too, and they're notgetting fat.
No, and you know it's our diet.
I mean you look at our diets inthis country and I mean it's to
the point where my girlfriendis a real.

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She's a health coach and she'sreally into eating good.
It's like we're to the pointwhere we can't even she's a nut
about seed oils Really Nothaving seed oils.
Not having them Not having thembecause they're just so bad for
you and they take so long to getout of your body.
Absolutely, but we're to thepoint where we can hardly go out

(20:05):
to dinner.
You know, we were in the bestvegan restaurant in Montecito
last week the very best veganrestaurant.
She's looking at the menu.
She finally called the chef outto ask him a couple of
questions and, yeah, they'reusing canola oil.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
They are using canola oil, I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
So we had to literally get up and walk out,
and I like eating out.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I know me too, but it's so hard.
I mean, I make my own bread now, I make my own starter.
Yeah, you go out and you try toeat one of a salad and you
don't know what they're puttingon that salad, you don't?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, I mean, we're all better off cooking and
eating at home, and it's to tothe point where we can't go out
to dinner.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
What about restaurants?
And they're purified.
I mean, you ask for a glass ofwater and you ask them is this
purified?
They say yes, how clean is thatwater?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
All you have to do is taste the water.
Oh, it tastes like chlorine.
Yeah, so it's not purified.
So the reality is, therestaurants want to sell you
their bottled water I meanthat's one of the reasons they
don't purify their tap water.
You want tap water.
You're going to drink someshitty tap.
You're going to get some shittywater, that's right.
They'd rather sell you somePellegrino or Fiji or something.

(21:13):
And again you know we're goingto.
Probably I want to get intoplastics with you because that's
a big issue.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I was going to get yeah, but that's an exciting
topic.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
So the short answer on restaurants is 90% of the
time their tap water is notfiltered.
So you are better off buyingtheir bottled water.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Their plastic bottled water, that's been laying in
the sun for God knows how long,which is another issue.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
So again, so we know the issues.
The pollutants that are in thetap water.
There's a lot of them.
They're too difficult to remove.
They can't be removed If youhave a very robust RO system
with a restructuring platform.
That's one way to get goodwater.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Still not the best, though Still not the best.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
The best is our hyperoxygenated water.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, we're going to talk about that oxygen piece 40
ppm.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
But let's talk about plastic for a minute.
This is what's really causingproblems with women.
So water you're going to hearme say over and over during this
interview, water in its purestform, is called the universal
solvent.
I don't know if you've everheard that term.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Never.
Can you explain that?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
So water in its purest form, water is an anomaly
, People don't.
I've been in the water industryall my life.
Water has memory.
Water is alive.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's energy too right .

Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's energy and it's alive, as much as alive as trees
and the plants.
Wow, water in its purest formabsorbs anything it comes in
contact with.
It's called the universalsolvent.
It wants to absorb.
If you pour this nanopurifiedwater on this table, it's going
to start drawing out the toxins.
It's called the universalsolvent.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Solvent.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Solvent.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Wow, water is pure water.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Water in its purest form is called the universal
solvent.
So RO water.
So most bottled water, 90% ofmost bottled water, is simply
reverse osmosis water.
So the best-selling plasticbottled water is Costco.
So people buy cases of Costcowater.

(23:24):
It's in a really pliableplastic right.
It's RO water, it's reverseosmosis water.
It's really pure water.
Water in its purest form wantsto absorb anything it comes in
contact with.
So what's happening is thatreverse osmosis water in those
plastic bottles.
It's literally sucking thetoxins out of the plastic.
Oh my goodness, it's literallydrawing the toxins out of the

(23:47):
plastic You're drinking that andbecause women carry a little
more body fat for a lot of goodreasons, those toxins are being
stored in your body,particularly your breasts, and
that's where you know.
We have a really astute medicalboard of advisors and we
discuss this all the time.
Breast cancer is epidemic.

(24:09):
Why is this?
It's because of all thisplastic bottled water I see
people drink.
Well, two things.
Number one it makes me sick tosee single-use bottles, people
pounding a big bottle of plasticbottled water.
I know it's going to end up inour landfill.
We don't need any more of that.
This is true.
We do not need any more of that.
But also the big issue is thatall those toxins in that plastic

(24:36):
are being drawn into the waterand you're drinking that water.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Do we know what's in the plastics?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's a toxic soup of forever chemicals.
It just-.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Again, forever chemicals.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, forever chemicals, so-.
I love the name that they choseforever chemicals I mean the
name says it all and you knowit's a sad commentary because
it's the convene.
You know it really comes downto.
Why are people drinking?
People know better.
I'm always amazed when I seeyounger people drinking out of

(25:06):
plastic because they know better.
It has to be glass.
It has to be.
I agree with you.
It has to be glass.
Water is pure.
Our water is so pure wecouldn't bottle this in plastic.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh my goodness, yes, I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, so we have bigger water companies that have
been circling us making offersto buy our brand.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Can you tell us which ?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
one and I can't talk about that right now.
But I don't plan on selling.
But anyway all of them want itbottled, the first thing they're
going to do.
You know, glass is hard.
I mean, we ship this all overthe world.
It's heavy, it breaks, reusable, it freezes.
There's issues with glass, butit's safe.

(25:55):
It's safe.
It is safe, it's non-leaching.
So this nanopurified water cansit in this glass forever and
it's not going to absorbanything bad.
Anything in plastic, any bottleof water, is our water.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I was driving by Smart and Final Do you guys have
Smart and?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Final in San Diego yeah, Santa.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Barbara, Santa Barbara excuse me.
There were, I would say,hundreds just outside in the sun
, like 399.
And I'm just-.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Just cooking in the sun.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Just cooking in the sun.
You know, let me say this howdangerous it is to keep water,
plastic water, in the trunk ofyour car.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Terrible.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I mean it's in heat, so all those forever chemicals
are being absorbed into thewater.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
They're just.
It's just creating a toxic soup.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
And then people are drinking that water, thinking
it's pure water.
Well when it was made, it waspure, yeah, and sitting in your
trunk is one thing, but frombottling to getting it on the
shelves is probably athree-month process.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
So that water is sitting around a long time.
You shouldn't drink it, youshouldn't give it to your pets
and, like I said, it's good forone thing, and that's putting
out fires.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Do you feel or do you agree Because I've read
research on this that autoimmunedisease among women are caused
from all these plastics, likethyroid issues and lupus?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, not only that.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Hashimoto's disease.
Graves' disease.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, here's the bigger.
So I have two young daughters.
They both happen to be pregnantnow.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Congrats.
Yeah, yeah, that's veryexciting.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
But they had trouble getting pregnant.
They had to go through thewhole in vitro thing and my
daughter told me you know, dad,this is all my girlfriends.
Because they're all in their30s, they're all kind of doing
the same time.
Because they're all in their30s, you know, they're all kind
of doing the same time, they'reall doing the same thing.
They're all having babies now.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And they're all having trouble getting pregnant,
and I used to.
I joke around that, you know,when I was growing up, all we
had to do was look at a girl andget her pregnant and I mean
this is, you know so, both mydaughters.
It's expensive, it's about 60grand.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
It is.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
And it's getting to the point where wait a minute.
I mean, what's going on here?
Why can't couples get pregnant?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
And my understanding.
Again, talking to my medicalboard of really good MDs, it's
just the plastics, it's the guys.
The guys are, it's the problem.
It's just plastic toxicity.
I mean, we all have plastic inus.
We know that it's in theplacenta?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
What are other areas that are hidden?
These plastics I mean, are theyin like, I don't know, like
clothing, food?
I mean they can be right.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
For sure.
So you know.
You look at this, okay,polyester, think about this.
So you know.
When you were growing up, youwashed your clothes.
You threw them in the dryer.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
We didn't used to do.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know how much when you clean your lint out of
your dryer every day.
It didn't used to be that way.
All these clothes are made inChina.
It's cheap clothing.
It's basically plastic clothing.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
It is plastic.
It's plastic Cancer caps, yeah,cancer caps.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
And then think about this.
So all the washing machines gothrough their rinse cycle.
It's all going down the drainwith all this plastic in it.
Again it's ending up in ourdrinking water.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
My goodness, yes, are you serious?
I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So think about it.
Think about all the clotheseverybody's washing every day.
You see the lint in your dryerand that's being a lot of that
lint.
Majority of it is being washedand then rinsed and down the
drain.
And where does that go?
It goes to the water treatmentplants, which again they don't

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do much with it and it ends upin our water supplies.
So plastic is insidious.
It's going to have to go away.
I mean we're going to have to.
You know when I was growing upI'm sorry, I keep you know.
Please, yeah, but I remember mymother coming home with
Tupperware.
Remember Tupperware?

(30:25):
Yeah, okay, that was the firstplastic.
So, we're looking at this,we're looking at this Tupperware
and we're going holy mackerel,this is like the best thing
since white sliced bread I meanTupperware, right.
I wonder yeah, but that was theintroduction to plastic,
Because I remember growing upwhere you know everything they

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cooked out of was like porcelainand glass.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yes, yes yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
And again, you know, you look at my country too.
Yeah, Teflon and even cast.
I thought cast iron was greatto cook with, so I went out and
bought all cast iron.
Then I had discovered my ironlevels were getting so high.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I have a brand called it's all cast iron.
What is it?
It's a French.
Oh my God, I forgot what it is.
So you're saying cast iron iseven bad now?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, it's bad from the standpoint.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
La Crusade, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
A lot of us have.
So, like all these dark spots Ihave on my hand, that's too
much iron, that's iron, so andreally, where a lot of the iron
is coming from.
For some reason, somebody inthe food industry decided we
needed iron in everything.
So I mean they put iron incereal.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It is in everything it's in everything.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't know if it's true.
I want to test this, but I justread the other day you can take
a magnet on some of this cerealand I'll let them.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I've seen that.
Have you seen it?
I haven't tried it but, I sawit Multiple people tried, but
there's too much.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
So we have too much iron in our bodies.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Metals and yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
So one of the things that I'm doing, again a great.
I can't say enough aboutdrinking pure water and using
saunas using a sauna, taking asauna twice or a couple of times
.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
But it depends on the water of the sauna, right?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, saunas are dry heat you don't really have.
You're not using water.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
What about the steam?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Steam is terrible, I tell, particularly for women.
You have to stay out of steamrooms.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And women like steam rooms because think about this.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Disrupts hormones.
No, no, no.
So you're sitting in a steamroom.
What?
What's causing that?
What's water?
Water, yeah.
And what kind of water?
Municipal water with chlorinein it.
So you're sitting in a steamroom deeply inhaling all that
vapor it's.
You can't do anything.
Worse, there's there's pregnantwomen.
You know, I go to thesehigh-end spas and I talk to the

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spa directors.
I'm going.
You either need to shut thesteam room down or purify the
water.
You're killing these people inthe steam room and it really
breaks my heart when I seepregnant women going in these
steam rooms.
Think about this You're deeplyinhaling that steam which is
loaded with chlorine, chemicals,heavy metals.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
And they don't bother .
Do you think they know Ken?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
They know you think so they don't want to spend the
money, and that's the problem inthis country.
Again, back to Europe and Italy.
They don't allow pesticides.
They don't, they're not usingpesticides.
Only America.
You know, and you know we'reyeah.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Do you believe in organic food 100%?
Do you shop at Farmer's Market?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I shop at.
I shop at.
I shop at when I can I shop atAir One.
I love Air.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
One.
I know where.
That's where you have yourwater.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Well, yeah, we're their best selling premium water
, but here's their businessmodel.
Which I think is so cool isthey are you do not have to read
labels in that store unlessit's clean, it isn't in their
store.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I love that store too .
End of story.
End of story.
There's one opening up inGlendale.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, I'm so happy about that.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
So when I started with them.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
They had one store, I think they have 10.
That'll be their 11th, but Imean, yeah, it's got awful
expensive.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
But what's more important than your health?
Nothing, I mean like we werejust calculating.
You know how much is the waterat Erewhon?
Was it 13 or 14?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's between 13 and 15.
They actually priced our wateron it.
I didn't have anything to dowith it.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, so we were just calculating.
I was like, well, it might bekind of pricey for people.
And you said something veryintelligent.
You said, well, how much dopeople spend on Starbucks a
month?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Right.
Let's calculate that, or oncocktails.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Or on cocktails or fast food, or on Red Bull.
Look at a Red Bull.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
If you're drinking Red Bull all day long, I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, so it's worth it yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
And again, the quickest, easiest health hack
end of story is to quit drinkingeverything you're drinking and
drink pure water.
You will feel and look so muchbetter in such a short period of
time.
It's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And because all these energy drinks that everybody
are just pounding, I mean it'sjust poison.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
It is poison.
Yeah, how important it is forwater to have oxygen.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well water used to have a lot of oxygen.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Why do you think they don't now?
And why do you imply it to yourwater?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
It's because the water is so denatured and
devitalized water.
It's because the water is sodenatured and devitalized.
I mean, you know the water.
Today, again, our water iscoming from the municipalities
that are doing the best they canbut they're not pulling out all
the contaminants and they'readding chlorine and people
chlorine.
Chlorine is relatively easy toremove.

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That's one of the easiestthings to remove from water.
Actually, we use organiccoconut carbon to remove
chlorine.
It actually imparts kind of asweet taste to the water, but
chlorine just wrecks your gutbiome.
I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
The microbiomes.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, if you think about it, chlorine is a super
heavy duty oxidizer.
It was a poison.
I mean hell.
They invented it in World War Iis a poison gas.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
For what On the battlefield?
On the battlefield.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, and that's where it came from.
And it just rucks your gut, Imean it kills all the good stuff
in your gut.
Yeah, Just like you knowantibiotics.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
You think like me.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
High five to that, yeah, yeah, I was just-.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Same mentality.
I'm so against antibiotics.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I had some surgery, you know, some minor surgery,
and so they loaded me up withantibiotics.
I picked them up and I threwthem out.
I'll take my chance.
And I didn't need it.
Come on, I didn't need to takethose no.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I think your body just heals naturally, that's
right.
Food and water.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's all you need.
They just want to load you upwith antibiotics.
Well, it's big money, it's alot of money.
Again, it's big money, and theyscare the hell out of you.
They.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
They do and I had actually OBGYN on the show and
he said something reallyinteresting.
He said fear is what they useto control you with.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
For sure, if you're not educated.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
And people think.
When I say educated, peoplethink I mean go to universities,
get multiple degrees.
No, just read, do research.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
That's education to me.
Yeah, so it's just like cancer.
I mean they scare the hell outof people going you got to start
your chemo today and radiationand I'm going.
No, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I mean, when I read that the best cancer doctors say
they wouldn't do it, theywouldn't do it.
Yeah, yes, I've actuallyinterviewed a few myself.
Yeah, yeah, it's reallyinteresting my mom.
They didn't find breast cancerin my mom, but they said it's
growing, it's there and it'strying to find its way.
And so they did surgery.

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They removed that part.
But then they said you have toget radiation after.
So I asked the doctor.
I said so you're not diagnosingher with cancer, right?
He said no, but it's there,it's trying to peek through.
And I said if you're notdiagnosing her with cancer and
if you removed it already, whywould you give her radiation?
And he said well, just to makesure, I said would you do that?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Did you ask him that?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I did ask him that Would you give your wife?
Or your daughter.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
And he didn't say anything.
Yeah, he said I understandyou're against it, and I said
it's not that I'm against it, Ithink it's just legal murder.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, let your body heal itself.
I mean, they removed what theycould remove, and then good food
and water and exercise andsunlight and just change of
mindset, everything we know.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, exactly, mindset's huge, god's way Huge.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, absolutely huge .

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So let's talk about the oxygen piece.
Um, you were saying they somost purified water.
Do they remove oxygen from thewater or they're still some?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
No, they start out, so they start out again.
The municipal water is sodenatured and devitalized.
In most cases there's no oxygenin it at all.
So over the years, a lot ofpeople have tried.
For me, stabilizing and bindingoxygen to water was the holy

(39:38):
grail.
As an inventor, I was lookingfor a way to do that and I spent
years.
I didn't crack the code on thisuntil about 10 years ago and I
filed my patents about six yearsago.
It's not an easy process.
So when you talk about theprice of our water, yeah, I
understand it's expensive, butwhen you come up to our plant
and see the amount of equipment,we have a room.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I saw the picture, the size of this room.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Loaded with about a million dollars worth of
equipment, so it's not easynanopurifying the water to the
level that we do.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It's called nanopurifying.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Nanopurifying the water.
We basically you have to start.
You know we're usingCarpinteria.
We're starting with Carpinteria, municipal water, some of the
worst water you know.
The beauty of our process is Ican bottle this water, I can
reuse any crappy water anywherein the country and turn it into

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our water through our, our, ournano purification process.
So basically we take it down todistilled quality water and at
that point we have to rebuild it.
So part of the part of thewhole oxygenation process,
without getting in theproprietary information, is
water in its purest form wantsto absorb anything it comes in

(40:54):
contact with.
You're going to hear me keepsaying that over and over so
nano purified, and we alsobottle our water cold.
We bottle it about 40 degrees.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Water loves to be cold.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Is it healthy to drink cold water?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
That's neither here nor there.
We can talk about that in aminute.
But in order for us to bind andstabilize the oxygen to the
water, the water has to benanopurified and cold.
So when we introduce so, wehave these nitrogen scrubs.
So right now we're breathing21% oxygen, right, Excuse me?

(41:31):
Yeah, 21% oxygen.
The rest is nitrogen.
So when you come up and I showyou our bottling room, we have
these two huge nitrogenscrubbers hanging on the wall
and what they're doing isscrubbing all the nitrogen out.
They're giving us 99% pureoxygen and we put that through a
process and then we infuse itinto our water and our water

(41:51):
wants to absorb that oxygenbecause it's so pure it pulls
that oxygen into the watermolecule and that's why it's
bound and stable.
So it's a complex, difficult,time-consuming process
Time-consuming.
Once we can scale up the volume, I'm gonna be able to bring the
price I wanna get the pricedown to this water.

(42:12):
And once we can scale up, andwe can scale up the volume, I'm
going to be able to bring theprice.
I want to get the price down tothis water.
And once we can scale up andwe're going to be able to do
that you know, glass isexpensive and it's heavy to ship
, you know, and these are thingswe have to deal with, but
you're not.
there isn't a healthier drink onthe planet.

(42:33):
I'm really proud of this waterand drinking.
It's important, but bathing andshowering and soaking in.
It is just as important.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
So I tell people, the day you turn 50 years old, you
should be soaking in this waterevery day.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Why 50?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
years old, you should be soaking in this water every
day.
Why 50?
It seems like when you hit yourfifties, you know your body.
It's when you have to, it'swhen you need to let go of some
of your bad habits and starttaking a little, taking a little
bit better care of yourself.
You know, for me, you know,it's not about living to be a
hundred years.
I want to, I want to be, I wantto be vibrant and healthy until

(43:18):
the day I die, and if that'stomorrow or when I hit 100,
whatever, but if I'm not healthyand vibrant, I don't really.
I'm not that interested.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
How different do you feel drinking your invented
water versus-.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
And I hate talking about my age, but I'm 74 years
old and I run circles around.
I've got a manufacturing plantwith a lot of I call them kids
in their 20s and I can keep upwith them.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
No, I have a ton of energy.
I'm up every morning at fiveo'clock and I'm exercising and
you know, and I love what I doand you know, sometimes, on
average, I'm working 80 to ahundred hours a week.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
And I love what.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I do, I don't you know, so it's not work to me,
but I have the energy to do thatand to go out and play and do
all the things I love to do aswell so.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
So water is that impactful, then huh, there's
nothing more impactful.
Really.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
That's what I believe .
If there's one thing I honestlyand it's so easy to prove, you
can prove it to yourself,anybody that might be listening
to this stop drinking whatyou're drinking, whatever that
is, for 30 days and just drinkpure water.
I'll guarantee you your eyesare going to be clearer, your
skin's going to improve, you'regoing to have a lot more energy.

(44:40):
It's simple and it's it's a hatthat you know the beverage
companies don't want you to knowabout.
I mean again.
I mean all these energy drinks.
I mean I mean again, I mean allthese energy drinks.
I mean, come on, I mean youknow you're going to get more
energy drinking our you know thekids call our water crack water

(45:00):
.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
So it's so energizing it is.
Yeah, it's very energizing, itis.
And I'll tell you something alittle bit more deeper than that
, and I've I've kind of observedmyself drinking water.
There are certain waters thatthe throat can't handle.
I don't know if you've everheard people say this to you,
but I felt like when I drinkaphora water, it glides down so
easy.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
It's the oxygen it makes it really smooth.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
It's the oxygen in there, Other water.
You just get kind of likechoked up kind of.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's weird.
I can't really explain it yet.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Well, you're hydrating.
So the one thing that I want topoint out is with our water,
you're truly hydrating.
Maybe it's the first time on acellular basis, so you know we
have what does that?
Mean Well, we have.
So we have intercellular waterand outer cellular water.
You may have maybe have heardthat or know that most people's

(45:59):
outer cellular water in theirintercellular water is very low.
My, my intercellular water ishigher than my outer cell.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Is this what we were talking about earlier?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
No, we haven't discussed this.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
So, so, so like.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I don't know if you've heard of Dr Michael
Galitzer.
He's a very well-known MD.
He's got a practice on WilshireBoulevard.
No, he is the real deal.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
He's an MD.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, graduated top of his class.
He ran the UCLA emergency roomfor like 15 years.
He's seen everything, but hewent completely holistic.
Really, he doesn't writescripts.
He will, if you need a script,he'll write one, but that's not

(46:44):
what he does.
And he's a huge advocate ofaphora, obviously, but he says
the same thing.
It's just if people wouldsubset, if people would just
quit drinking everything they'redrinking and switch to pure
water, it's going to be a gamechanger.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
My goodness, yeah.
Other than the United States ofAmerica, what other countries
have true contaminated water?
Or are we the only country?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
No, we're the worst by far.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Just because of the density of the people,
particularly, you know, if youlook at a picture of the United
States at night, like, let's say, the whole southern coast of
California, I mean all thepopulations on the coast, and so
all those pollutants, all thatsewage, it's all concentrated in

(47:37):
these areas and, like I said,the municipalities do the best
they can, but they can't.
They're basically dumping allthis water into the ocean.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, how much can they do?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
basically, you know, couple that with all the
pesticides.
I mean we spray everything inthis country.
You know, I don't know thestatistics on organic.
I spend the money.
Me too, and I have to believethe labels, but I don't know.
Is it all organic?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, I always think about that.
I mean, I don't shop at markets, I'm always at farmer's market.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
But going to like Whole Foods, I always see the
non-GMO the labels and I alwayswonder like how accurate is this
?
Can we trust?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I don't know that we can trust.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, I don't either, so.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I figure probably 80% of the organic food I'm buying
is organic.
I mean, for me it's always the80-20 rule.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Which has always worked for me.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah, as I.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
But I mean, we just live in a society that's
addicted to drugs,pharmaceutical drugs, that's
addicted to sodas and variousdrinks.
All our food is pretty muchsprayed.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
And factory grown and yes, in factory grown and that
all bodes for just not goodhealth.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Also, I wanted to add and I'm thinking of little
things as we're having thisconversation what about the ice?
Okay, let's just say you go toStarbucks and you get an iced
tea, but it's loaded with tapwater ice.
It's terrible, it is, I justthought of it as like it melts
into your drink, so it's likedrinking ice green tea, but it's
full of chlorine and green tea.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
So we have actually have hyperoxygenation ice
machines that we alsomanufacture, so the water's nano
, the ice is nano pure.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Let's talk about the services that Oforaora provides.
I know that you have three orfour different machines that
people can, so we actuallypurchased, yeah so my background
was, you know, patented the,the technology to nano purify
water.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
So obviously we started manufacturing the
machines that do that.
So we were, we were making thewater purification machines
first and then we got into thebottling, so we have a whole
home system.
So the best way to address yourhouse in terms of drinking,

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bathing, showering is with awhole home system.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, so you provide that.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
So we manufacture a very robust.
I'm an engineer and I'm a nutabout things not breaking.
So all of our systems you knowmost of the systems you buy in
the water improvement industryin three to five years are junk.
You got to throw them out andget a new one Our systems I tell
people you can will them toyour kids because I'm crazy
about things not breaking andabout overbuilding and

(50:35):
overengineering.
So basically we have fourdifferent models with our whole
home systems, depending on whatyou want to accomplish.
But what we do, our most basicsystem is called the essential
whole home system.
We cut the plumbing line cominginto your house and then we
plumb that into our system andthen into your house, so all the

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water entering into your homeis purified.
So you're drinking, you'rebathing and you're showering in
pure water all the water, samewater that you're drinking.
Yeah, so if your dog's drinkingout of the toilet, he's drinking
perfect water.
So, yeah, so all your water,all the water coming in the

(51:22):
house, is purified.
But we take that a step further.
We also, when we're selling awhole home system, in order to
nanopurify the water, you haveto filter down to 0.0001 microns
.
You know human hair is 10microns, so it takes a lot of
specialized filtration to dothat.
So you can drink.
Our whole home systems producebottled quality water.

(51:44):
But your go-to part of whatcomes with our whole home system
is an under-the-counter unitthat incorporates RO, our
restructuring platform, andthat's your go-to for drinking
water.
So a lot of companies that areout selling whole home systems
say, well, it's good foreverything.
But the truth of the matter isit's difficult removing 100% of

(52:07):
the pollutants from the water.
It takes special filtration andthat's what we put underneath
your sink.
So your kitchen sink's yourgo-to for cooking and drinking.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
What filtrations does it need to have for it to be
fully purified?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Well, actually you need to start with some
pre-filtration RO.
So we have really hard, youknow, about water hardness, the
water spotting.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah, you can test it too.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Do you have a home or Uh-huh, okay.
So do you have a water softenerin your house?
Yes, okay, okay, so you knowyou're off on a good start.
So I'm always amazed how manyhomes don't have water softeners
?

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, Because it doesn't make sense to have a
purifier right Without.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, you can't do it .
So and here's why so we havethe hardest water in the country
.
You've lived with hard water,You've seen the water spotting.
It does Everything turns whiteit ruins everything.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
It does?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I mean it ruins your hot water heaters.
Anything particular hot water,anything that's making hot water
, it's going to get ruined.
So we have the hardest water inthe country, I mean.
And so I mean again you knowCalifornia is basically.
We're built on a rock.
It's rock right.
Water in its purest formabsorbs anything it comes in

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contact with.
So the reason our water is sohard all the water is flowing
over all this rock in Californiasandstone and that's why it's
so hard.
I'm from Michigan and the waterthere is like soft.
You don't need a water softenerthere, it's just really soft.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
California has hard water, though.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Really hard water, because California is basically
built on stone and rock and thewater is absorbing that.
So the first thing that happenswith a good whole home system
is you have to take the hardnessout.
You need a softener first inline.
So when you purchase one of ourwhole home systems, if you

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don't have a softener, we'realso going to recommend that you
put a softener in first,because if you don't, what
happens is it plugs up all thefilters almost immediately.
So all of our systems aredesigned so it's only one filter
change out per year and we cando that.
We can guarantee that byputting a softener first in line

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and depending on the hardness.
We just did a home.
Actually, susan and JeffBridges she's a good friend of
mine and their water is so hardwe had to put two softeners in a
pre-softener and a finalsoftener.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Out of all the states , softeners and a pre-softener
and a final softener.
Out of all the states, whichstate has the most dirtiest
water?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
You said Cali.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
but is that true?
Yeah, california, really.
Yeah, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
But I mean look, you know, we're the most, we're the
most populous state in thecountry and that creates a lot
of pollution.
And we also have the hardestwater in the country and it
creates problems.
And I'm always amazed Mostpeople don't.
Well, I don't know.
I would say maybe it's 50-50,but 50% of the population here

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does not have a water softenerand that's just wrecking
everything in their house.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Do you have anyone in your life friends, family
members that drink tap?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
water.
Either they're lying to me.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I do, I do.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
But I don't.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
So what are your thoughts about that?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I think it's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy.
I mean I can't.
I think it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't know what else to say.
I know because you're-.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
You are, intentionally, you're killing
yourself.
You're gonna shorten your life.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Short.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah, I think that's the biggest You're gonna shorten
your life and, again, lifeexpectancy.
Here we are the wealthiestrichest, most healthcare in the
world and we had the most sickpopulation and our life
expectancy rates are falling,which is crazy.

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It is, and something's causingthat, okay.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
All these plastics, all these.
You know the water, the food,these pesticides, these sprays.
And you know the water, thefood, these pesticides, these
sprays.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
And you know like I keep saying to people.
There's all of that right.
And yeah, so you know ourcountry, you know the
manufacturers.
I mean, yeah, first they tookthe fat out and then they added
sugar and you know it's just amess.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
And I feel like everything healthy is also very
expensive.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
It is expensive, like ghee is incredibly healthy.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I mean I make it at home.
But for somebody that doesn'tknow how to make it at home,
they go into like Erewhon orWhole Foods.
It's like $12 a little caselike this that could be very
expensive for some people.
Yeah, yeah, come on so it'slike the things that are
supposed to be not so expensive.
It's good for us is things arenot supposed to be, aren't?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah, so you know.
My answer to all that is youknow, you just have to.
It's so important eating cleanand drinking clean.
You just have to cut back inother areas.
Yeah, luxurious lifestyle Imean, yeah, I mean, we don't.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
The cars, the stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You know you don't need a Ferrari in your garage.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
No, I mean like look at it this way You're driving a
Ferrari, but you're drinking.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, you know I'm laughing because I'm at homes
where there'll be two Ferrarisin the garage and we're, you
know, we're quoting on them awhole home system and they're
going.
Well, that's way too much moneyand I'm going, I don't know, I
mean they can bury you in yourFerrari.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah, doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
But which?
Which?
Or you know, women's purses, Imean, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I mean, you know where, where are you?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
spending your and drinking clean is the two best.
I mean we could cure disease ifwe did that oh, I just wish
people understood more, yeahwell they're.
You know the message is gettingout there and uh, slowly but
surely, because you know it'slike I say if the disease
doesn't kill you, the cure willI love that.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I haven't heard of that.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get sick, I want to be
healthy.
You know you pay now or paylater, right, it's like putting
on weight.
It's just a lot easier not tohave to lose weight.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
But, ken, you're so right about that, the cure will
too.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Because what's the cure?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, I mean look at all these medicines and ugh, I
kind of you know, if you got togo to the doctor you're kind of
screwed.
I mean, I don't know, I've gotsome really good MD friends, so
you know if you broke an arm oryou got this, you know, yeah,
there's certain issues I meanyeah, but in terms of general

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health.
Your doctor isn't gonna educateyou on that.
They're not educated, for God'ssake.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yes, look at all the hours they spend in medical
school.
What do they teach them?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
University of.
You know I'm from Ann Arbor,michigan.
U of M and surrounding U of Mis all the pharmaceutical
companies, the big ones, yeah so, and they're all funding the
medical school.
U of M's got a great medicalschool, but the doctors are.
Look it used to be, you go tothe doctor and they ask you to
stick out your tongue.

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They don't even do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
You go, what's your problem?
And okay and get the pad off.
Fast, quick, they've only got15 minutes, that's right.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Let me ask a very important question that I think
all parents would appreciate.
Now, I'm a very anti-vax person, but there's people that watch
the podcast that are veryvaccine-prone people and they
like that.
So if the people that havevaccinated their children are
now thinking about maybedetoxing, do you think like good

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purified water can also helpwith?

Speaker 1 (59:57):
heavy metal detoxation 100%.
I don't know a better way Idon't know a better way.
And yeah, I mean, if mothersreally want to enhance their
family's health, get off all thestuff.
I like coffee.
I have one cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
I used to pound coffee all day.
Well, actually there's studiesthat it helps.
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
So I drink mud water with a mixture of coffee in it.
It's my energy drink that I doevery morning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
So it helps with detoxing the body and whatever
Flushing out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Flusushing out, Flushing out Again, I hate to
keep using this term.
Water in its purest formabsorbs anything it comes in
contact with.
If you're drinking really purewater, it's pulling the toxins
out of your body.
It's pulling and flushing thetoxins out of your body.
Think about that and it doesn'ttake long.
The really interesting thing ishow quickly, if you took my

(01:01:01):
advice, quit drinking everythingelse but pure water, you would
notice a significant differencein two weeks Significant.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
What do you think people will see?
What are some results thatyou're-.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Your eyes and your complexion.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Really Eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Eyes.
It's amazing how it clears up.
Your eyes are much clearer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Your vision.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Not so much your vision, but-.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
The look of the eye you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Okay, so one of the reasons that I know your oxygen
levels are High, high is youhave really clear, bright eyes.
Oh, your eyes are an indicatorof your overall health.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
No way yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
So the first thing you'll notice is your eyes will
clear up.
You'll have whiter eyes, youreyes are whiter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
So that's when you were talking to me about what is
it called the oxygen levels inyour body.
Yeah, that's what we're.
This is what it helps with.
It's the oxygen in your-.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Purified yeah, purified water that has.
So the best overall indicatorof your overall health is your
oxygen saturation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
There you go.
That's the word I was lookingfor.
It's oxygen saturation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
So you know again anything above 95% saturation
means you're healthy.
And every point above you know96, 97, 98, 90, it's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
That's a big deal.
It's a big deal, great, it's abig deal.
So we want people, even kids,to be around 95.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I would say you're a 98.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Me yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I'm really good at guessing.
Yeah Me, yeah, I'm really goodat guessing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah, so kind of like guessing the weight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I can't guess weight, but I can guess yeah, so your
eyes are so clear and yourcomplexion is really, so you're
doing a lot of things, right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Because I have really clean water and I drink.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
I actually did use.
I'm going to get to this, but Imade my.
I bought vegetables fromfarmer's market and I made my
own kimchi at home with a furrowwater.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
The water is incredible, yeah, but with good
salt and some garlic peppers and.
I just let it sit, you know,for the ferment for about three
weeks.
It's so delicious we call ittattoo in our language.
It's our own kimchi.
Yeah, but it tastes phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Well, this water will enhance, so like just the water
absorb.
Again, this water absorbs theflavors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
It's a big difference .

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
It is.
I swear to you, I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And I love soups.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
So yeah, it makes incredible soup.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
It does and it's very .
It just feels good.
You keep wanting to drink itwhen you drink the water.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yeah, I'm to the point like just to, for an
example.
I mean I won't even boil eggsin tap water.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I mean I why would you do people really do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Boil eggs in tap water For like hard for hard
boiled eggs when you're makinghard boiled eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Really, I've been doing it in clean water my whole
life, I don't know.
Okay, well, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I mean you know you don't want to boil your eggs in
polluted water Because you'regoing to crack it and it's going
to get on the egg.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
It doesn't, and sometimes it cracks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, so you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I'm petrified of tap water.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Okay, well, you're, you know you're, you're
investing in it, it's aninvestment.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I am, and it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
it's not it's not inexpensive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
It's not easy, I promise.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
You know I, you know I, I, I, I take all these
supplements every day and I get,I get tired of it.
It's very overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
But you know what you you look.
Have you been to othercountries before?
I'm sure you've been to Europe.
So when you go into thesupermarkets, like, for instance
, I have three, four relativesthat live in Belgium and I love
Belgium.
I go there and I walk into asupermarket.
When you go into a supermarketin Europe, what do you see first
?
You see meat, you see veggies.

(01:04:54):
But when in the United Statesyou go into a supermarket, the
first thing you see issupplement section.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you noticed that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
It's the supplement section.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
And that's because we heavily need it, because our
food is so compromised, ourwater is compromised.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Well, and I think people are looking for an easy
fix If all those supplementsyou're taking, if you put those
away and drink this water you'dbe way healthier.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I'm telling you, my kimchi is phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Yeah, I love kimchi.
I should have brought you some.
I got to get some of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Well, you're here tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I'll bring some.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Okay, I'll bring some for you One o'clock, right?
Yeah, I'll bring some you haveto try.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
It's so healthy and the water is just so good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
So one good news is you have the Kardashians that
utilize a 40 water, so tell usabout that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Well, it's kind of fun.
It's a funny story actually,because, yeah, so they were
always calling they do a lot ofthese events.
They'll rent a big mansion inBeverly Hills and they do these
big events.
And so they are always callingwanting our water.
That's amazing.
They wanted me to pay them tobring my water.

(01:06:12):
I go, I'm not paying you tobring water over there.
So this went on for years.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
They finally called and said- they wanted you to pay
them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Yeah, so anybody that comes to these events.
There's a lot of differentvendors.
I mean you have to pay it's pay, it's pay to plan and I just
wasn't going to do that.
They finally called and saidokay, you don't have to pay, and
I said well, I mean that's nice, but you're going to have to

(01:06:42):
pay me something for this water.
It's expensive water.
So, as far as I know, I'm theonly vendor that is actually
being-.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Let it be known.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
And God bless them so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Do you feel like that helped the name of Afora?
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
It all helps.
But one of the cool thingsabout Afora is we don't do very
much.
We don't do any marketing oradvertising really.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
No, you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
But we have a lot of celebrities, particularly a lot
of athletes, and we have so manyNFL players that are drinking
we're shipping right to theirlocker room.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Bottles.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Bottles and yeah.
So it's interesting.
I get calls from sports agentsall the time going.
You know I see so-and-so withyour water and my guy's
interested.
You know we want to talk to youabout.
You know we'd like your waterand we want to see what you'd be

(01:07:53):
willing to pay to have ourathlete drink in your water.
And I'm going well, none ofthese guys, I don't give this
water to anybody.
They all pay for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
And they're always shocked.
And then they talk about ourwater.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
They actually will on social media without me
compensating them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
So I like to point that out, because I'm not paying
any of these athletes, thesepro athletes, and we've got some
pretty significant actors andso we have an interesting we
have a lot of celebrities wholove our water and they freely
talk about us and yeah, so thatall helps.

(01:08:34):
It does, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Thank you so much, Ken.
I've learned so much.
I think we've all learned somuch about water.
I think it was very importantto cover the topics of tap water
first.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
And you know the purification process.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
So is there any water out there that, if you didn't
have a for a water with you, isthere any other water that you
would drink?
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, I'm traveling allthe time, you know usually when
I'm going someplace, I'll ship.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
if I'm going to be there, I'll ship water, but when
I'm traveling and I can't Imean your.
Your go-to is always water andglass.
Glass, yeah, and you know,pellegrino, I mean any, any, any
water that's bottled in glassis going to be your go-to water.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I agree, Spring water yeah and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Bottle and glass spring water, that's probably
your.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Best, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
So you know you're hydrating with pure, healthy
water, yeah, yeah.
Just stay away from the plastic.
You've got to stay away fromthe plastic.
Does it make sense to addelectrolyte powders or powders

(01:09:51):
with magnesium and all thosevitamins?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
to add those.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
We have a lot of useful minerals magnesium,
potassium.
They're all in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
They're all in the water.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
And because this water is nano pure and
hyper-oxygenated, you arehydrating on a cellular level.
And again, I don't know, wedidn't get into it too much, but
I think we got off on anothertangent.
But my intercellular water ishigher than my outer cellular
water.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
So talk to me about that.
We have time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yeah, okay.
So Dr Michael Galitzer, whenyou see Michael, he does all
these organic tests on you, andso I have a report that shows my
intercellular and my outercellular water.
My intercellular water ishigher than my outer cellular
water, and that's an anomaly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Is that supposed?

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
to be that way.
No, Because the water today hasso many pollutants in it that
it can't penetrate your cells.
This water is penetrating.
For the first time in your lifeyou're hydrating at a cellular
level.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Oh my gosh, that's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
It's a big deal.
It's a big deal.
So one of the reasons I'm ashealthy as I am and as vibrant
as I am at my age is that I'mtruly hydrating on a cellular
level.
I've already drank a half agallon of this water today and
I'll drink another half.
So I drink a gallon a day, andI've already soaked this morning
in my hyper-oxygenated spa.

(01:11:16):
Wow, so my oxygen levels are upthere.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
What is a normal inner cellular level of a person
that's not consuming waterthat's oxidized?

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
The inner cellular, so the numbers are my outer.
I wish I had it with me, but myouter cellular is like 43, and
my inner cellular wire is like46.
Are there?

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
tests that doctors can do this.
Yeah, yeah, what are theycalled?

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
So Michael Galitzer has this profile.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
He can run them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
He can run them, he's a great doctor, he loves to
work and he's not going toretire anytime.
That's my biggest thing rightnow is all the great people are
retiring.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, and you know what you are the study yourself,
though.
Yeah, you are For sure You'redrinking this water and you're
like, look, these are.
I'm a classic example.
These are my studies, these aremy results.
Yeah, see what it can do to youwhen you soak in this water,
when you drink this water.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Yeah, and again, I love people.
I think we have the best water.
But look, you can buy greatglass bottle of water and just
don't drink out of plastic,especially women.
The message has to be I tellguys all the time if you love
the women in your life, you'vegot to get them off plastic, end

(01:12:39):
of story.
And it's just a damn.
It's the convenience factor,because I'm always asking myself
why People know better.
Why are they doing this?
It's just so much easier topick up a plastic bottle of
water.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I mean it's so affordable and it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Yeah, and then toss it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah, you toss, it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
But look at you know, there's just too many good
reasons not to do that.
And again, women suffer morefrom compromised, denatured
water than men.
I mean, like I don't know whythat is Because women carry more
body fat and the toxins arestored in that body fat.

(01:13:17):
Yeah, and that's the wholebreast cancer thing.
I mean, look it, I've beenaround a while now and I've seen
this.
When I was in my 20s and 30sbreast cancer you didn't have to
worry about the women in yourlife dying of breast cancer.
I don't know, it's just-.
Now it is it is, and plastic hasa lot to do with that, just as

(01:13:40):
plastic has a lot to do withwomen not getting being able to
conceive.
Yes and I hate to see this.
You know, again, the medicalcommunity, it's big money, it's
60,000 bucks.
You know, are we going to getto the point where you know this
is the way you get pregnant?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm going down a whole tangenthere.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Science no, but these are the topics that people need
to talk about and hear.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah, yeah, so, but women need to not drink out of
plastic.
End of story.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
And that's my message .

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Yeah, yeah, so we'll kind of part with that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yeah, I think that's a beautiful message.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Thank you so much, Ken.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Well, thank you, we appreciate you yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Good topic, good conversation and hopefully we'll
have you on soon again, it'd begreat.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
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