January 9, 2025 • 30 mins
Karim Salim was a successful TikToker with over 600,000 followers when he was arrested in May 2024 for torturing and murdering multiple women. While his reign of terror may be over, one question still remains. Where is his son, Zayn? Karim kidnapped his son Zayn from his ex-wife Lobna, and now she is left desperately searching to bring Zayn home.
If you want to donate to Lobna's gofundme account to help her find Zayn, please go to the link below:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-reunite-a-mother-with-her-son-after-35-year
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So, the case I'm doing today wasactually recommended to us by a
listener.
Shout out to Paulette who taggedus on a TikTok video about this
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And I'm going to ask you, Idoubt either of you have heard
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of this case just because it'snot as well known in the
American true crime world rightnow.
But have any of you heard ofKarim Salim?
Elena (02:00):
No, not at all.
D (02:01):
Mm mm.
Sophia (02:02):
Okay.
I will get into the TikTok videolater in this story because in
order for it to make sense, Ithink it's important we start
with a man by the name of KarimSalim.
It's May of 2024 and Karim isliving in a gated community in
New Cairo, Egypt.
New Cairo is right next toCairo, Egypt, which is the
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capital.
Karim actually holds citizenshipin both the United States and in
Egypt, and he's a graduate fromAmerican University in Cairo.
At this point, Karim also had aTikTok account by the name of
Hooked on Fonix.
And that's F O N I X.
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And he had over 600,000followers on TikTok.
On TikTok, he would actuallyteach people English, which is
not surprising because he wasformerly an English teacher.
He also had a YouTube channelcalled Speak EZ Hub.
However, as of today, bothKarim's TikTok and YouTube
accounts have been deleted.
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And that is because on May 25th,2024, after failing to evade
police by escaping hisapartment, Karim was arrested
for sexually assaulting,torturing, and murdering three
sex workers.
The public prosecution havereferred Karim to the criminal
court on charges of murder, drugpossession, drug trafficking,
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and human trafficking.
I unfortunately do not have thenames of these women.
But I do know they were killedon November 15th, 2023, April
8th, 2024, and May 15th, 2024.
So that's not too far away,given that at least when we're
recording this podcast, it'sstill in 2024.
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So all of this has happened in avery short time span and very
close to, where we are currentlyin the world timeline wise, one
of the woman's bodies wasrecovered on a desert road to
Ismailia and then another of thewoman's bodies was found in Port
Said.
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Because both of these victimshad similar injuries, police
realized that they were bothkilled by the same person.
Police ended up usingsurveillance cameras to solve
the crimes and this is how Karimwas linked to these murders.
As if this wasn't horrifyingenough, Karim actually recorded
what he did to these women.
He recorded himself torturingthem before they died.
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He recorded their actual deathsand he recorded himself sexually
abusing their bodies afterdeath.
One thing that helped Karim withall of this is that he built a
soundproof room in hisapartment, so he definitely had
plans with what he wanted to dowith these women and wanted to
make sure he could execute onthem.
Elena (04:49):
Wait, he built a soundproof room in an apartment?
Sophia (04:53):
Yep.
That's correct.
He.
Really went full out on thishorrendous scheme of his.
Elena (05:01):
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Especially in an apartment ofall places.
Sophia (05:04):
I know.
I feel like that would be reallyhard to do.
Elena (05:06):
Yeah.
I would be shocked if it works.
Sophia (05:09):
He did not get away with this for long But it seems like
I'm assuming the soundproof,room worked very well because I
don't think anyone heard ofheard it.
So.
When Karim met with these women,he would actually take them out
on a date night during theirfirst time meeting.
I'm assuming this was done totry and build some trust with
them so that he could get themto his apartment by the second
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date.
Police conducted a drug test onKarim and discovered traces of
hashish.
Which is a compressed form ofmarijuana, Tramadol, which is an
opioid, and methamphetamine inKarim's blood system.
Karim eventually confessed thathe would pressure and coerce his
victims to use the drugs withhim.
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In addition, Karim wouldoftentimes tie up his victims
and then torture them.
He was very sadistic and hewould watch several sexually
sadistic videos and sometimeswhile his victims were at his
apartment he would actually dothis.
After Karim had murdered eachwoman and was finished with
them, he would put their bodiesin the trunk of his car and then
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dump them at a desolate place.
When it comes to Karim's trial,it began in June, but Karim's
initial lawyer ended upwithdrawing from the case.
Karim did find another lawyerand throughout the proceedings
he denied the charges againsthim and retracted the
confessions he had madefollowing his arrest.
However, the prosecutionpresented overwhelming evidence
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against him, including videosthat showed Karim engaging in
necrophilia with the victim'sbodies after he murdered them.
Elena (06:46):
Wow, that is disgusting.
That's like a whole nother levelof disgusting.
Sophia (06:53):
I think he has just a very dirty, dirty mind.
Elena (06:57):
Yeah.
Sophia (06:58):
It's disgusting to imagine this and I can't think
of anything more incriminatingthan having him committing those
acts on video.
And of course, they also had theCCTV footage which had captured
Karim disposing of the bodiestoo.
So ultimately in August of 2024,Karim was found guilty of
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multiple counts of premeditatedmurder, sexual assault,
necrophilia, and humantrafficking.
In September, he was sentencedto death by hanging, which he is
able to appeal if he wants to.
So from the time he wasarrested, which was in May of
2024, to the time he wassentenced in September of 2024,
that was only four months.
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So it definitely seems like theEgyptian court system moves much
quicker than that of the UnitedStates.
Karim is now known by a fewnames, which is The New Cairo
Slaughterer, Woman Slaughterer,The New Cairo Serial Killer,
Safa al-Tagamoa and theal-Tagamoa Serial Killer.
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I think al-Tagamoa is a certainpart of New Cairo.
Originally, Karim had said thatthere are more than three
victims, but it's not reallyclear as to whether this is true
or even if it's still beinginvestigated.
D (08:16):
I have a question.
How old is Karim?
Sophia (08:20):
37.
D (08:22):
It seems unusual that at 37 he would start killing and not
earlier since he killed three soquickly, all within so many
months.
Sophia (08:32):
That makes a very good point.
I think there was a lot ofpressure that was building up in
his life and tension that led tothis point, which we will
discuss
D (08:43):
They do not think that he was killing before this point?
Sophia (08:47):
If they do, there's been no mention of it.
And, I could be wrong, but givenhow quickly, they were able to
find these murders.
I would assume he would havebeen caught just because he did
not seem to be doing a good jobof covering his tracks.
Now maybe I'm wrong, maybe he'sbeen doing this for a while and
he just ended up getting sloppy,and so they just caught his most
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recent hypothetical murders.
But he also recorded what he didto these women, so maybe that's
just something he started doing.
And if he had been committingprevious murders he didn't
record them.
But as of now we don't know thathe's committed any other
murders.
Karim's story is currently bignews in Egypt, and that's for
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obvious reasons.
The international press as muchexposure as the Egyptian press,
which is unfortunate, because inreality, the American press
should be giving this story moreexposure for one big reason, and
that is for Karim's son, Zayn.
In May of 2024 when Karim hadbeen arrested, he'd only been
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living in Egypt for four years.
Prior to this, he had been inLondon with his now ex-wife and
son.?
So remember the TikTok video Ihad mentioned earlier that
Paulette shared with us.
Well, that was my first exposureto this case.
Now, in this TikTok video, awoman by the name of Lobna
Yakout is speaking, and Lobna isKarim's ex-wife.
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I want to give some informationabout Lobna and her backstory,
and I will say that theinformation I'm including I
found and verified throughexternal news sources.
And Lobna actually reiteratessome of this information in the
TikTok video that Pauletteshared with me and in other
videos she's posted on herTikTok.
Karim and Lobna got married in2014 and lived in Egypt with
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their son Zayn Salim until theirseparation in 2020.
Lobna is now 33 and has beenliving in the UK since 2022
after escaping Cairo, which iswhere she lived with Karim,
who's now her ex-husband.
Lobna was not surprised to hearof the crimes Karim had
committed, because she hasalleged that Karim was very
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abusive to her during theirmarriage.
At the time that they separatedin 2020, Egypt did not have laws
against domestic violence, soshe could never press any
charges.
But she did say that he hadallegedly almost killed her
multiple times.
In 2020 Lobna left with her thenfive year old Zayn and moved
into a new home in Cairo.
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Within a year, she alleges thatKarim began threatening her and
her family.
In 2021, following what wassupposed to be a temporary
meeting between Karim and hisson Zayn, Lobna claims that Zayn
was not returned to her and thatshe hasn't seen Zayn since then.
When remembering the last timeshe saw Zayn before handing him
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off to Karim, Lobna says shetold her son,"If you're taking
from me, find me".
She said that was the last thingshe said to him.
Then, a year later, Lobna saidshe was forced to flee Cairo
amid a series of threats fromKarim, both to her and her
family.
On one occasion, she allegesKarim waited outside her Cairo
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residence for four days with aknife, which prompted her to
escape the residence in disguiseand flee to the UK.
Then, in May of 2024, whenEgyptian investigators called
her and told her what Karim haddone, which is, murdering these
three women, this is what shehad to say about it.
She said,"I didn't believe it.
I thought he set it up becausehe just did everything to find
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me.
So I'd get to Egypt and he'd getme." But once Lobna saw what the
Egyptian investigators hadmentioned in the Egyptian media,
she realized it was real and wasnot surprised that Karim was in
the center of all of this.
So at first she thought this wasjust, a ploy for Karim to get
her.
Like Karim was behind this toget her to come back to Egypt,
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but it actually, you knowwasn't.
She said,"Me and my Mom, we wereshaken.
It was madness." So even thoughKarim is behind bars, Lobna's
journey is not over.
She is desperately searching forZayn, who was reportedly handed
to Karim's mother following hisarrest.
Lobna says she hasn't receivedany assistance from authorities
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to help find Zayn, who was bornin Michigan, where many of
Karim's family members live.
Lobna hasn't seen Zayn in morethan three years.
but she still is searching forhim endlessly.
As soon as he is back with her,Lobna says she plans to take him
to the beach for some Mom-Zayntime.
She said the beach was theirthing and that they love it.
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Lobna said one of her lastmemories with Zayn was about a
week before she last saw him.
Zayn had asked her for balloons,so she bought them.
Then the two of them walkedaround a shopping center and
Zayn high fived strangers andgave them balloons, which I
think is just super cute of himto do.
Lobna said it was all his ideaand that he loves to make
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friends and loves to be social.
I don't know, just seems likesuch a sweet boy, like finding
joy in balloons and then handingthem off to strangers and making
friends is just such a sweetthing for him to do.
Yeah.
So, Zayn was six when he wastaken from her and now he is
ten.
Lobna alleges that because ofher ex-mother-in-law's wealth
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and connections that it's beendifficult to find Zayn.
She has set up a GoFundMe, whichwe're including in the episode's
information section, so that itcan help cover her legal costs,
investigative expenses, and theimmediate needs of her ongoing
fight for justice andreunification.
In one of her TikTok videos,Lobna claims that when Karim got
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locked up, he told the policeshe was dead, so his mom took
her son, and she hasn't heardanything since.
She claims that she filed allpolice papers and has full
custody, but that she cannotfind Karim's mom.
She doesn't know if Karim's momis in Egypt or the United
States, which is why she'strying to get as much exposure
as possible, especially topeople in the United States,
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because Americans are not veryfamiliar with this story.
So let's all be on the lookoutfor Zayn.
The most likely places he willbe are in Egypt or the United
States, especially in Michigan.
If you have any information,please contact Lobna through her
TikTok account, which is calledwhenboredomstruck.
And also, please contact yourlocal authorities, too, if you
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have any information.
Lobna's TikTok account isdedicated with videos about
getting her son back.
And on her TikTok account,whenboredomstruck, there's
pictures of Zayn, and on oursocials, we will also be
including pictures of Zayn, incase you want to look at that
and just be aware of what Zaynlooks like.
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So seems like Karim, based onwhat Lobna has allegedly said,
Karim took Zayn during what wassupposed to be a temporary
meeting and then he's had himsince then, which was in 2021.
And then when he got arrested,Zayn went to his mom, Karim's
mom, and so now Lobna is justreally trying to get him back
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home.
Elena (16:07):
That's really sad.
Do you know why she can't go tothe police and say that her
child was kidnapped?
Cause Zayn's mom had legalcustody, of Zayn, can't she go
to the police and report her kidkidnapped?
Cause that's technically what itis.
Sophia (16:26):
So I'm not 100 percent sure, but she claims that she's
just not able to find Zayn orhis grandmother, which is,
Karim's mom.
And so without being able tofind them, she says she can't
really get them back.
I don't know all the details andthe specifics of it, especially,
Egyptian law.
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And if he's not in Egypt, thenhe's in the U.
S.
and that makes things a littlebit more difficult, because he
was born here too, and she isnot a U.
S.
citizen, from what I understand,if I'm correct.
So But also, I don't know howmuch agency and I don't know if
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control is the right word, butmaybe like freedom she had in
regards to this because shecouldn't even file, for domestic
violence charges when she wasgetting attacked by Karim.
So I don't know Even though shewas his mother and had legal, so
what she claims is a legal rightto him, I don't know she had as
much sway over it, given thatit's just like a different
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country, different culture, andlaws, and all of that.
Elena (17:35):
Okay.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Sophia (17:37):
And she also claims that Karim's mom has connections and
wealth, which is making thisvery difficult.
Elena (17:46):
Right.
D (17:47):
The Middle East has different ways of interpreting parents'
rights.
Mom's and Dad's rights.
If you compare it to the way wethink about it here in the U.
S.
So, if she eventually did getthe right to her son, then, does
any, police force or any ofthose agencies help her because
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they're very male dominant.
So I'm not sure they will helpher.
Elena (18:16):
True.
Without a husband to back herup.
D (18:18):
Correct.
She's in Egypt at the moment,correct?
Sophia (18:21):
I'm not a hundred percent sure because I know she
went back to London becauseKarim was constantly threatening
her.
She actually had to leave withjust, I think one suitcase and
that was it.
She was in survival mode at thatpoint.
So I don't know if she's beenback to Egypt since I think she
may have because he's beenarrested, but I'm not 100
percent certain.
And obviously this, made itharder for her to get him
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because Karim was constantlythreatening her and she was
forced to move to back toLondon.
D (18:51):
Okay.
So if she's in London, she willhave to hire attorneys and
agents and
Sophia (18:57):
yeah, that's what the GoFundMe is for.
D (18:59):
Investigators to find him.
And then to have to work withthe police force or an agency to
be able to go in and get him.
And, sometimes it works andsometimes the agencies don't
care and don't want to helpbecause they're, it's very male
dominant.
So they'd rather have his momhave him than her, even if she
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has rights.
In the United States it may beeasier for her because he's an
American citizen, and she is hismom.
And if she can show papers fromEgypt that she has the right to
have him, it'd probably beeasier, but probably her biggest
problem is to find them and tobe able to get him before they
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move on.
Elena (19:43):
Right, that's a good point.
Sophia (19:45):
Yeah, it's because she doesn't know where he is, that's
the difficult part.
And my impression, just fromwhat I do know, it's so sad
because, like you said, it seemslike she may not be receiving as
much help if, just based on whatI do know, and it's sad to think
that she is doing so much ofthis legwork on her own and is
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leading this and I don't thinkshe has the support that she
needs.
Elena (20:13):
Yeah, unfortunately, but hopefully this GoFundMe will be
able to raise money for her toget like the lawyers and all the
people that she needs toproperly handle this and
hopefully if there's any of thelisteners that can spare
something to help this mother.
But I'm glad one of ourlisteners suggested this.
This is an interesting case.
Sophia (20:33):
Yes.
You know now that Karim isbehind bars.
Maybe it's gonna start somethingthat it'll help her eventually
get Zayn.
Because it may have been harderfor her to ever get Zayn if
Karim was still in the picture.
I do know we mentioned was Karimever committing murders
beforehand and it's interestingbecause I don't know going back
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to that point.
I don't know if there was aspecific catalyst that happened
at the end of 2023 that made himstart killing.
Because I know he was goingthrough all of this the divorce
with Lobna, and then he got holdof Zayn.
But it was a few years from whenthat all happened to when he
started murdering.
Elena (21:15):
Yeah, especially three people in one year.
That's crazy too.
Sophia (21:19):
Yeah, it was actually three people in the span of six
months, which is.
Elena (21:23):
Even like shorter than a year.
Sophia (21:25):
Yeah.
Elena (21:25):
And the first time that he killed people was like all in
six months is crazy.
Sophia (21:31):
Yeah, there was some rage going on there if you ask
me.
Elena (21:34):
Something snapped.
It's just unfortunate thatZayn's missing, but I hope that
his mother can get answers soon.
D (21:41):
It seems like they were in the United States.
Were there any unsolved?
Sophia (21:46):
Who was in the United States?
D (21:48):
Karim?
And his wife and Zayn, correct?
They were in the United Statesat some point.
Sophia (21:54):
Oh, yes, because Zayn was born here.
Yes.
I do think they spent a goodchunk of their life in London
though.
D (22:02):
So it seems like they lived in London, United States for a
while.
Are there any unsolved murdersthat occured around the time
Karim lived in London, UnitedStates that maybe he did it,
that he was a part of?
Sophia (22:18):
That's definitely a really good point that you bring
up because they were definitelyhere when Zayn was born and then
they spent a good amount of timein London before moving to Egypt
and I have no idea at all ifthere are any similar murders or
even if investigators arelooking into these in both the
US or London.
D (22:39):
The situation is, I don't see what the breaking point was
because everything was workinghis way.
He got a divorce, he got hisson, what was it that that would
have triggered him to startkilling at this point.
Sophia (22:54):
That's a good point, cause I heard he had a nice
apartment in an upscalecommunity.
It was actually a gatedcommunity.
Some sources said he had aluxurious car.
Not that having nice things is,the end all be all.
Or it's not gonna, doesn't meanthat you're not gonna have
stress.
But you're right from theoutside.
It looks like he has what hewants.
Like he's doing wellfinancially.
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He's doing well on Tik TOK andYouTube.
He's divorced and he has a son.
I don't know what was the actualticking point.
Elena (23:26):
he think that his wife is going to get custody of his son?
Like, was that a possibility?
Or was she fighting for it?
Sophia (23:33):
I think she's always been fighting for it, but I
haven't heard that there was anyspecific course of action or any
specific thing that made itclear that she was going to be
getting any sort of custodysoon.
D (23:47):
Does she have legal custody?
Is she legally allowed to havehim now?
Sophia (23:51):
According to her, yes.
She has legal papers.
D (23:54):
And when did that occur?
Sophia (23:57):
I'm not exactly.
D (23:59):
Did that occur before he started killing?
Or after he was caught.
Sophia (24:03):
That's a good point.
But I don't think she says itexactly, but she does make it
sound like she went through allthe paperwork to make it like
100 percent certain that he washers to rightfully have.
And I don't know if she did thatafter he was arrested, or
before, but I do know accordingto her, been very thorough to
get the paperwork in top notchorder.
Elena (24:22):
But I thought, the mother-in-law did something to
get, legal custody of him?
The son?
Sophia (24:30):
No, the mother-in-law does not have legal custody.
What happened is, Karim, when hewas arrested, he told them that
the boy's mom, Lobna, was dead,which obviously isn't true.
Right.
And so, then Zayn was given toKarim's mom.
Elena (24:43):
Oh, but there's no like legal documents that are like
making her his guardian oranything like that?
Sophia (24:49):
No, nothing.
Lobna doesn't say there'sanything of that and also the
news sources that I found havenever mentioned anything about
that being the case.
Elena (24:57):
Interesting.
I don't know how Egypt works,but in theory, she should be
able to go into a police stationand this is my son.
He's been kidnapped by thiswoman.
She doesn't have a right to havehim.
I legally do.
Find her.
Or at least find him, It'sinteresting that it seems like
that they're not willing toinvestigate or they can't.
Like she's just gone.
D (25:17):
She may be gone.
Elena (25:18):
True.
Which would open a whole notherissue and trying to find
someone.
D (25:22):
That's when you have to hire a private investigator.
Private investigators are veryexpensive.
Elena (25:29):
It's just a shame that, even tragic happens it's easier
for people to get answers ifthey have more money, which is
unfair.
D (25:42):
She needs an international private investigator who knows
the culture of the UK, Egypt,London, United States.
So that he or she will know howto handle it.
Elena (25:52):
Right.
D (25:52):
And that would be a very expensive individual.
And, the family has money.
You can find someone, go get thepolice.
And by the time they go, theycould have be gone too.
Elena (26:04):
Right.
they could have a private jetand just dip.
Sophia (26:07):
The hard thing is I don't think she knows where they
are.
And I'm hoping that if she did,if they were in Egypt, that the
Egyptian police would be able totake Zayn and give them to
Lobna, but I also don't know,what that would even look like
if it would be an easy processfor them.
Even if, she says to the police,he's been kidnapped, please find
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them.
I don't know what kind of searchefforts they are doing to find
Zayn.
D (26:34):
Since he is an American citizen, can she tell the state
department that he's beenkidnapped?
Sophia (26:41):
I would assume so and I would think so.
I'm not sure if she has donethat already.
It sounds like she's the oneleading all the efforts to find
him, and I do know she's takingpeople's advice from TikTok.
So anyone who messages her, shewrites down those notes and she
follows through with them,because she's just trying to do
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everything she can to get herson back.
So I would assume it'd be easierfor her to catch him if he was
in the U.
S.
If he's going to school and he'susing his name, and they're not
trying to hide.
But I don't know, maybe they'regiving him a disguise.
I don't know.
Elena (27:18):
They could have him under a different name and disguise
and everything.
Sophia (27:22):
But what's interesting also, and you could still
brainwash a child.
If she told him, to contact me.
So I also wonder how much agencyhe has or if he's been
threatened at all.
Elena (27:35):
Yeah, that's true.
Sophia (27:37):
Because even if he's going to an American school and
he wants to say something to histeacher, he may be scared of
what happens if they tell hisgrandmother.
Hey, you said this to us atschool today.
What do you have to say aboutthat?
Elena (27:50):
So many kids don't tell people when their own parents
are abusive, like teachers.
So I wouldn't be surprised if hedidn't want to tell his teacher,
hey, I've been kidnapped by mygrandmother.
And she moved me to a differentcountry, and I'm under a
different name.
Like that definitely could besomething very difficult to say.
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So I wouldn't be surprised if heis like scared to speak up.
Sophia (28:14):
Yeah, I just hope that, I'm going to say when because
I'm trying to manifest it forLobna, like when he is reunited
that he still remembers Lobna,remembers all the good times and
has at least hopefully not beenbrainwashed.
Elena (28:28):
That's true because he was young.
Sophia (28:30):
Six.
Elena (28:31):
Yeah.
Sophia (28:32):
He sounds like such a great nice boy too.
So I think he has that going forhim.
I hope that character of hiswould be able to, stick through
whatever he's going throughright now.
Elena (28:45):
Yeah, for sure.
Do you have any otherinformation about the case?
Sophia (28:50):
I don't have any information, but definitely
check out Lobna's TikTok accountwhenboredomstruck.
And lastly, if you areexperiencing domestic violence,
call the National DomesticViolence Hotline at 1(800)
799-7233 or go to thehotline.
org.
All calls are toll free andconfidential.
The hotline is available 24/7 inmore than 170 languages.
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So, the case I'm doing today wasactually recommended to us by a
listener.
Shout out to Paulette who taggedus on a TikTok video about this
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story.
We appreciate you sharing thisstory with us because part of it
is actually very time sensitive.
So if there's ever a case, anyof you would like us to cover,
please feel free to send thatour way through social channels
or you can comment in the textbox below this episode as well.
And I'm going to ask you, Idoubt either of you have heard
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of this case just because it'snot as well known in the
American true crime world rightnow.
But have any of you heard ofKarim Salim?
Elena (02:00):
No, not at all.
D (02:01):
Mm mm.
Sophia (02:02):
Okay.
I will get into the TikTok videolater in this story because in
order for it to make sense, Ithink it's important we start
with a man by the name of KarimSalim.
It's May of 2024 and Karim isliving in a gated community in
New Cairo, Egypt.
New Cairo is right next toCairo, Egypt, which is the
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capital.
Karim actually holds citizenshipin both the United States and in
Egypt, and he's a graduate fromAmerican University in Cairo.
At this point, Karim also had aTikTok account by the name of
Hooked on Fonix.
And that's F O N I X.
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And he had over 600,000followers on TikTok.
On TikTok, he would actuallyteach people English, which is
not surprising because he wasformerly an English teacher.
He also had a YouTube channelcalled Speak EZ Hub.
However, as of today, bothKarim's TikTok and YouTube
accounts have been deleted.
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And that is because on May 25th,2024, after failing to evade
police by escaping hisapartment, Karim was arrested
for sexually assaulting,torturing, and murdering three
sex workers.
The public prosecution havereferred Karim to the criminal
court on charges of murder, drugpossession, drug trafficking,
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and human trafficking.
I unfortunately do not have thenames of these women.
But I do know they were killedon November 15th, 2023, April
8th, 2024, and May 15th, 2024.
So that's not too far away,given that at least when we're
recording this podcast, it'sstill in 2024.
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So all of this has happened in avery short time span and very
close to, where we are currentlyin the world timeline wise, one
of the woman's bodies wasrecovered on a desert road to
Ismailia and then another of thewoman's bodies was found in Port
Said.
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Because both of these victimshad similar injuries, police
realized that they were bothkilled by the same person.
Police ended up usingsurveillance cameras to solve
the crimes and this is how Karimwas linked to these murders.
As if this wasn't horrifyingenough, Karim actually recorded
what he did to these women.
He recorded himself torturingthem before they died.
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He recorded their actual deathsand he recorded himself sexually
abusing their bodies afterdeath.
One thing that helped Karim withall of this is that he built a
soundproof room in hisapartment, so he definitely had
plans with what he wanted to dowith these women and wanted to
make sure he could execute onthem.
Elena (04:49):
Wait, he built a soundproof room in an apartment?
Sophia (04:53):
Yep.
That's correct.
He.
Really went full out on thishorrendous scheme of his.
Elena (05:01):
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Especially in an apartment ofall places.
Sophia (05:04):
I know.
I feel like that would be reallyhard to do.
Elena (05:06):
Yeah.
I would be shocked if it works.
Sophia (05:09):
He did not get away with this for long But it seems like
I'm assuming the soundproof,room worked very well because I
don't think anyone heard ofheard it.
So.
When Karim met with these women,he would actually take them out
on a date night during theirfirst time meeting.
I'm assuming this was done totry and build some trust with
them so that he could get themto his apartment by the second
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date.
Police conducted a drug test onKarim and discovered traces of
hashish.
Which is a compressed form ofmarijuana, Tramadol, which is an
opioid, and methamphetamine inKarim's blood system.
Karim eventually confessed thathe would pressure and coerce his
victims to use the drugs withhim.
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In addition, Karim wouldoftentimes tie up his victims
and then torture them.
He was very sadistic and hewould watch several sexually
sadistic videos and sometimeswhile his victims were at his
apartment he would actually dothis.
After Karim had murdered eachwoman and was finished with
them, he would put their bodiesin the trunk of his car and then
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dump them at a desolate place.
When it comes to Karim's trial,it began in June, but Karim's
initial lawyer ended upwithdrawing from the case.
Karim did find another lawyerand throughout the proceedings
he denied the charges againsthim and retracted the
confessions he had madefollowing his arrest.
However, the prosecutionpresented overwhelming evidence
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against him, including videosthat showed Karim engaging in
necrophilia with the victim'sbodies after he murdered them.
Elena (06:46):
Wow, that is disgusting.
That's like a whole nother levelof disgusting.
Sophia (06:53):
I think he has just a very dirty, dirty mind.
Elena (06:57):
Yeah.
Sophia (06:58):
It's disgusting to imagine this and I can't think
of anything more incriminatingthan having him committing those
acts on video.
And of course, they also had theCCTV footage which had captured
Karim disposing of the bodiestoo.
So ultimately in August of 2024,Karim was found guilty of
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multiple counts of premeditatedmurder, sexual assault,
necrophilia, and humantrafficking.
In September, he was sentencedto death by hanging, which he is
able to appeal if he wants to.
So from the time he wasarrested, which was in May of
2024, to the time he wassentenced in September of 2024,
that was only four months.
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So it definitely seems like theEgyptian court system moves much
quicker than that of the UnitedStates.
Karim is now known by a fewnames, which is The New Cairo
Slaughterer, Woman Slaughterer,The New Cairo Serial Killer,
Safa al-Tagamoa and theal-Tagamoa Serial Killer.
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I think al-Tagamoa is a certainpart of New Cairo.
Originally, Karim had said thatthere are more than three
victims, but it's not reallyclear as to whether this is true
or even if it's still beinginvestigated.
D (08:16):
I have a question.
How old is Karim?
Sophia (08:20):
37.
D (08:22):
It seems unusual that at 37 he would start killing and not
earlier since he killed three soquickly, all within so many
months.
Sophia (08:32):
That makes a very good point.
I think there was a lot ofpressure that was building up in
his life and tension that led tothis point, which we will
discuss
D (08:43):
They do not think that he was killing before this point?
Sophia (08:47):
If they do, there's been no mention of it.
And, I could be wrong, but givenhow quickly, they were able to
find these murders.
I would assume he would havebeen caught just because he did
not seem to be doing a good jobof covering his tracks.
Now maybe I'm wrong, maybe he'sbeen doing this for a while and
he just ended up getting sloppy,and so they just caught his most
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recent hypothetical murders.
But he also recorded what he didto these women, so maybe that's
just something he started doing.
And if he had been committingprevious murders he didn't
record them.
But as of now we don't know thathe's committed any other
murders.
Karim's story is currently bignews in Egypt, and that's for
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obvious reasons.
The international press as muchexposure as the Egyptian press,
which is unfortunate, because inreality, the American press
should be giving this story moreexposure for one big reason, and
that is for Karim's son, Zayn.
In May of 2024 when Karim hadbeen arrested, he'd only been
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living in Egypt for four years.
Prior to this, he had been inLondon with his now ex-wife and
son.?
So remember the TikTok video Ihad mentioned earlier that
Paulette shared with us.
Well, that was my first exposureto this case.
Now, in this TikTok video, awoman by the name of Lobna
Yakout is speaking, and Lobna isKarim's ex-wife.
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I want to give some informationabout Lobna and her backstory,
and I will say that theinformation I'm including I
found and verified throughexternal news sources.
And Lobna actually reiteratessome of this information in the
TikTok video that Pauletteshared with me and in other
videos she's posted on herTikTok.
Karim and Lobna got married in2014 and lived in Egypt with
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their son Zayn Salim until theirseparation in 2020.
Lobna is now 33 and has beenliving in the UK since 2022
after escaping Cairo, which iswhere she lived with Karim,
who's now her ex-husband.
Lobna was not surprised to hearof the crimes Karim had
committed, because she hasalleged that Karim was very
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abusive to her during theirmarriage.
At the time that they separatedin 2020, Egypt did not have laws
against domestic violence, soshe could never press any
charges.
But she did say that he hadallegedly almost killed her
multiple times.
In 2020 Lobna left with her thenfive year old Zayn and moved
into a new home in Cairo.
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Within a year, she alleges thatKarim began threatening her and
her family.
In 2021, following what wassupposed to be a temporary
meeting between Karim and hisson Zayn, Lobna claims that Zayn
was not returned to her and thatshe hasn't seen Zayn since then.
When remembering the last timeshe saw Zayn before handing him
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off to Karim, Lobna says shetold her son,"If you're taking
from me, find me".
She said that was the last thingshe said to him.
Then, a year later, Lobna saidshe was forced to flee Cairo
amid a series of threats fromKarim, both to her and her
family.
On one occasion, she allegesKarim waited outside her Cairo
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residence for four days with aknife, which prompted her to
escape the residence in disguiseand flee to the UK.
Then, in May of 2024, whenEgyptian investigators called
her and told her what Karim haddone, which is, murdering these
three women, this is what shehad to say about it.
She said,"I didn't believe it.
I thought he set it up becausehe just did everything to find
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me.
So I'd get to Egypt and he'd getme." But once Lobna saw what the
Egyptian investigators hadmentioned in the Egyptian media,
she realized it was real and wasnot surprised that Karim was in
the center of all of this.
So at first she thought this wasjust, a ploy for Karim to get
her.
Like Karim was behind this toget her to come back to Egypt,
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but it actually, you knowwasn't.
She said,"Me and my Mom, we wereshaken.
It was madness." So even thoughKarim is behind bars, Lobna's
journey is not over.
She is desperately searching forZayn, who was reportedly handed
to Karim's mother following hisarrest.
Lobna says she hasn't receivedany assistance from authorities
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to help find Zayn, who was bornin Michigan, where many of
Karim's family members live.
Lobna hasn't seen Zayn in morethan three years.
but she still is searching forhim endlessly.
As soon as he is back with her,Lobna says she plans to take him
to the beach for some Mom-Zayntime.
She said the beach was theirthing and that they love it.
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Lobna said one of her lastmemories with Zayn was about a
week before she last saw him.
Zayn had asked her for balloons,so she bought them.
Then the two of them walkedaround a shopping center and
Zayn high fived strangers andgave them balloons, which I
think is just super cute of himto do.
Lobna said it was all his ideaand that he loves to make
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friends and loves to be social.
I don't know, just seems likesuch a sweet boy, like finding
joy in balloons and then handingthem off to strangers and making
friends is just such a sweetthing for him to do.
Yeah.
So, Zayn was six when he wastaken from her and now he is
ten.
Lobna alleges that because ofher ex-mother-in-law's wealth
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and connections that it's beendifficult to find Zayn.
She has set up a GoFundMe, whichwe're including in the episode's
information section, so that itcan help cover her legal costs,
investigative expenses, and theimmediate needs of her ongoing
fight for justice andreunification.
In one of her TikTok videos,Lobna claims that when Karim got
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locked up, he told the policeshe was dead, so his mom took
her son, and she hasn't heardanything since.
She claims that she filed allpolice papers and has full
custody, but that she cannotfind Karim's mom.
She doesn't know if Karim's momis in Egypt or the United
States, which is why she'strying to get as much exposure
as possible, especially topeople in the United States,
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because Americans are not veryfamiliar with this story.
So let's all be on the lookoutfor Zayn.
The most likely places he willbe are in Egypt or the United
States, especially in Michigan.
If you have any information,please contact Lobna through her
TikTok account, which is calledwhenboredomstruck.
And also, please contact yourlocal authorities, too, if you
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have any information.
Lobna's TikTok account isdedicated with videos about
getting her son back.
And on her TikTok account,whenboredomstruck, there's
pictures of Zayn, and on oursocials, we will also be
including pictures of Zayn, incase you want to look at that
and just be aware of what Zaynlooks like.
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So seems like Karim, based onwhat Lobna has allegedly said,
Karim took Zayn during what wassupposed to be a temporary
meeting and then he's had himsince then, which was in 2021.
And then when he got arrested,Zayn went to his mom, Karim's
mom, and so now Lobna is justreally trying to get him back
(16:05):
home.
Elena (16:07):
That's really sad.
Do you know why she can't go tothe police and say that her
child was kidnapped?
Cause Zayn's mom had legalcustody, of Zayn, can't she go
to the police and report her kidkidnapped?
Cause that's technically what itis.
Sophia (16:26):
So I'm not 100 percent sure, but she claims that she's
just not able to find Zayn orhis grandmother, which is,
Karim's mom.
And so without being able tofind them, she says she can't
really get them back.
I don't know all the details andthe specifics of it, especially,
Egyptian law.
(16:47):
And if he's not in Egypt, thenhe's in the U.
S.
and that makes things a littlebit more difficult, because he
was born here too, and she isnot a U.
S.
citizen, from what I understand,if I'm correct.
So But also, I don't know howmuch agency and I don't know if
(17:08):
control is the right word, butmaybe like freedom she had in
regards to this because shecouldn't even file, for domestic
violence charges when she wasgetting attacked by Karim.
So I don't know Even though shewas his mother and had legal, so
what she claims is a legal rightto him, I don't know she had as
much sway over it, given thatit's just like a different
(17:31):
country, different culture, andlaws, and all of that.
Elena (17:35):
Okay.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Sophia (17:37):
And she also claims that Karim's mom has connections and
wealth, which is making thisvery difficult.
Elena (17:46):
Right.
D (17:47):
The Middle East has different ways of interpreting parents'
rights.
Mom's and Dad's rights.
If you compare it to the way wethink about it here in the U.
S.
So, if she eventually did getthe right to her son, then, does
any, police force or any ofthose agencies help her because
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they're very male dominant.
So I'm not sure they will helpher.
Elena (18:16):
True.
Without a husband to back herup.
D (18:18):
Correct.
She's in Egypt at the moment,correct?
Sophia (18:21):
I'm not a hundred percent sure because I know she
went back to London becauseKarim was constantly threatening
her.
She actually had to leave withjust, I think one suitcase and
that was it.
She was in survival mode at thatpoint.
So I don't know if she's beenback to Egypt since I think she
may have because he's beenarrested, but I'm not 100
percent certain.
And obviously this, made itharder for her to get him
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because Karim was constantlythreatening her and she was
forced to move to back toLondon.
D (18:51):
Okay.
So if she's in London, she willhave to hire attorneys and
agents and
Sophia (18:57):
yeah, that's what the GoFundMe is for.
D (18:59):
Investigators to find him.
And then to have to work withthe police force or an agency to
be able to go in and get him.
And, sometimes it works andsometimes the agencies don't
care and don't want to helpbecause they're, it's very male
dominant.
So they'd rather have his momhave him than her, even if she
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has rights.
In the United States it may beeasier for her because he's an
American citizen, and she is hismom.
And if she can show papers fromEgypt that she has the right to
have him, it'd probably beeasier, but probably her biggest
problem is to find them and tobe able to get him before they
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move on.
Elena (19:43):
Right, that's a good point.
Sophia (19:45):
Yeah, it's because she doesn't know where he is, that's
the difficult part.
And my impression, just fromwhat I do know, it's so sad
because, like you said, it seemslike she may not be receiving as
much help if, just based on whatI do know, and it's sad to think
that she is doing so much ofthis legwork on her own and is
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leading this and I don't thinkshe has the support that she
needs.
Elena (20:13):
Yeah, unfortunately, but hopefully this GoFundMe will be
able to raise money for her toget like the lawyers and all the
people that she needs toproperly handle this and
hopefully if there's any of thelisteners that can spare
something to help this mother.
But I'm glad one of ourlisteners suggested this.
This is an interesting case.
Sophia (20:33):
Yes.
You know now that Karim isbehind bars.
Maybe it's gonna start somethingthat it'll help her eventually
get Zayn.
Because it may have been harderfor her to ever get Zayn if
Karim was still in the picture.
I do know we mentioned was Karimever committing murders
beforehand and it's interestingbecause I don't know going back
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to that point.
I don't know if there was aspecific catalyst that happened
at the end of 2023 that made himstart killing.
Because I know he was goingthrough all of this the divorce
with Lobna, and then he got holdof Zayn.
But it was a few years from whenthat all happened to when he
started murdering.
Elena (21:15):
Yeah, especially three people in one year.
That's crazy too.
Sophia (21:19):
Yeah, it was actually three people in the span of six
months, which is.
Elena (21:23):
Even like shorter than a year.
Sophia (21:25):
Yeah.
Elena (21:25):
And the first time that he killed people was like all in
six months is crazy.
Sophia (21:31):
Yeah, there was some rage going on there if you ask
me.
Elena (21:34):
Something snapped.
It's just unfortunate thatZayn's missing, but I hope that
his mother can get answers soon.
D (21:41):
It seems like they were in the United States.
Were there any unsolved?
Sophia (21:46):
Who was in the United States?
D (21:48):
Karim?
And his wife and Zayn, correct?
They were in the United Statesat some point.
Sophia (21:54):
Oh, yes, because Zayn was born here.
Yes.
I do think they spent a goodchunk of their life in London
though.
D (22:02):
So it seems like they lived in London, United States for a
while.
Are there any unsolved murdersthat occured around the time
Karim lived in London, UnitedStates that maybe he did it,
that he was a part of?
Sophia (22:18):
That's definitely a really good point that you bring
up because they were definitelyhere when Zayn was born and then
they spent a good amount of timein London before moving to Egypt
and I have no idea at all ifthere are any similar murders or
even if investigators arelooking into these in both the
US or London.
D (22:39):
The situation is, I don't see what the breaking point was
because everything was workinghis way.
He got a divorce, he got hisson, what was it that that would
have triggered him to startkilling at this point.
Sophia (22:54):
That's a good point, cause I heard he had a nice
apartment in an upscalecommunity.
It was actually a gatedcommunity.
Some sources said he had aluxurious car.
Not that having nice things is,the end all be all.
Or it's not gonna, doesn't meanthat you're not gonna have
stress.
But you're right from theoutside.
It looks like he has what hewants.
Like he's doing wellfinancially.
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He's doing well on Tik TOK andYouTube.
He's divorced and he has a son.
I don't know what was the actualticking point.
Elena (23:26):
he think that his wife is going to get custody of his son?
Like, was that a possibility?
Or was she fighting for it?
Sophia (23:33):
I think she's always been fighting for it, but I
haven't heard that there was anyspecific course of action or any
specific thing that made itclear that she was going to be
getting any sort of custodysoon.
D (23:47):
Does she have legal custody?
Is she legally allowed to havehim now?
Sophia (23:51):
According to her, yes.
She has legal papers.
D (23:54):
And when did that occur?
Sophia (23:57):
I'm not exactly.
D (23:59):
Did that occur before he started killing?
Or after he was caught.
Sophia (24:03):
That's a good point.
But I don't think she says itexactly, but she does make it
sound like she went through allthe paperwork to make it like
100 percent certain that he washers to rightfully have.
And I don't know if she did thatafter he was arrested, or
before, but I do know accordingto her, been very thorough to
get the paperwork in top notchorder.
Elena (24:22):
But I thought, the mother-in-law did something to
get, legal custody of him?
The son?
Sophia (24:30):
No, the mother-in-law does not have legal custody.
What happened is, Karim, when hewas arrested, he told them that
the boy's mom, Lobna, was dead,which obviously isn't true.
Right.
And so, then Zayn was given toKarim's mom.
Elena (24:43):
Oh, but there's no like legal documents that are like
making her his guardian oranything like that?
Sophia (24:49):
No, nothing.
Lobna doesn't say there'sanything of that and also the
news sources that I found havenever mentioned anything about
that being the case.
Elena (24:57):
Interesting.
I don't know how Egypt works,but in theory, she should be
able to go into a police stationand this is my son.
He's been kidnapped by thiswoman.
She doesn't have a right to havehim.
I legally do.
Find her.
Or at least find him, It'sinteresting that it seems like
that they're not willing toinvestigate or they can't.
Like she's just gone.
D (25:17):
She may be gone.
Elena (25:18):
True.
Which would open a whole notherissue and trying to find
someone.
D (25:22):
That's when you have to hire a private investigator.
Private investigators are veryexpensive.
Elena (25:29):
It's just a shame that, even tragic happens it's easier
for people to get answers ifthey have more money, which is
unfair.
D (25:42):
She needs an international private investigator who knows
the culture of the UK, Egypt,London, United States.
So that he or she will know howto handle it.
Elena (25:52):
Right.
D (25:52):
And that would be a very expensive individual.
And, the family has money.
You can find someone, go get thepolice.
And by the time they go, theycould have be gone too.
Elena (26:04):
Right.
they could have a private jetand just dip.
Sophia (26:07):
The hard thing is I don't think she knows where they
are.
And I'm hoping that if she did,if they were in Egypt, that the
Egyptian police would be able totake Zayn and give them to
Lobna, but I also don't know,what that would even look like
if it would be an easy processfor them.
Even if, she says to the police,he's been kidnapped, please find
(26:31):
them.
I don't know what kind of searchefforts they are doing to find
Zayn.
D (26:34):
Since he is an American citizen, can she tell the state
department that he's beenkidnapped?
Sophia (26:41):
I would assume so and I would think so.
I'm not sure if she has donethat already.
It sounds like she's the oneleading all the efforts to find
him, and I do know she's takingpeople's advice from TikTok.
So anyone who messages her, shewrites down those notes and she
follows through with them,because she's just trying to do
(27:02):
everything she can to get herson back.
So I would assume it'd be easierfor her to catch him if he was
in the U.
S.
If he's going to school and he'susing his name, and they're not
trying to hide.
But I don't know, maybe they'regiving him a disguise.
I don't know.
Elena (27:18):
They could have him under a different name and disguise
and everything.
Sophia (27:22):
But what's interesting also, and you could still
brainwash a child.
If she told him, to contact me.
So I also wonder how much agencyhe has or if he's been
threatened at all.
Elena (27:35):
Yeah, that's true.
Sophia (27:37):
Because even if he's going to an American school and
he wants to say something to histeacher, he may be scared of
what happens if they tell hisgrandmother.
Hey, you said this to us atschool today.
What do you have to say aboutthat?
Elena (27:50):
So many kids don't tell people when their own parents
are abusive, like teachers.
So I wouldn't be surprised if hedidn't want to tell his teacher,
hey, I've been kidnapped by mygrandmother.
And she moved me to a differentcountry, and I'm under a
different name.
Like that definitely could besomething very difficult to say.
(28:10):
So I wouldn't be surprised if heis like scared to speak up.
Sophia (28:14):
Yeah, I just hope that, I'm going to say when because
I'm trying to manifest it forLobna, like when he is reunited
that he still remembers Lobna,remembers all the good times and
has at least hopefully not beenbrainwashed.
Elena (28:28):
That's true because he was young.
Sophia (28:30):
Six.
Elena (28:31):
Yeah.
Sophia (28:32):
He sounds like such a great nice boy too.
So I think he has that going forhim.
I hope that character of hiswould be able to, stick through
whatever he's going throughright now.
Elena (28:45):
Yeah, for sure.
Do you have any otherinformation about the case?
Sophia (28:50):
I don't have any information, but definitely
check out Lobna's TikTok accountwhenboredomstruck.
And lastly, if you areexperiencing domestic violence,
call the National DomesticViolence Hotline at 1(800)
799-7233 or go to thehotline.
org.
All calls are toll free andconfidential.
The hotline is available 24/7 inmore than 170 languages.
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