April 14, 2025 • 29 mins
Lem Garcia shares his journey of building one of Southern California's fastest growing personal injury law firms from scratch, discussing the risks, challenges, and rewards of entrepreneurship. He details his path from being heavily in debt to creating a successful business through determination, resourcefulness, and strategic marketing.
• Taking risks is essential to entrepreneurial success
• Starting a business is like flying a plane—getting off the ground takes the most energy
• The first year of business is the hardest, especially when revenue is delayed
• Local SEO and customer reviews were key growth drivers in the early stages
• The legal industry faces increasingly competitive and expensive marketing challenges
• Creating free content on social media is an effective strategy for those with limited budgets
• Immigrant mentality provided a foundation of frugality, hard work, and problem-solving
• Finding harmony between business and family means other interests often take a backseat
• "This too shall pass" serves as a guiding principle through both challenges and successes
• Express gratitude even for difficulties, viewing them as opportunities for growth
Connect with Lem on Instagram @lemgarcialaw or email him at lem@lemgarcialaw.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Elevate Media Podcast with your
host, chris Anderson.
In this show, chris and hisguests will share their
knowledge and experience on howto go from zero to successful
entrepreneur.
They have built theirbusinesses from scratch and are
now ready to give back to thosewho are just starting.
Let's get ready to learn, growand elevate our businesses.
And now your host, chrisAnderson.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome back to another recording of the Elevate
Media Podcast.
I am Chris Anderson, your host,chris Anderson.
Enough to get things goingbecause there is risk involved,
so we brought on an expert.
He's also a lawyer, so I'llwatch what I say.
(00:47):
I'm just kidding.
He is a first generationAmerican, devoted husband and
father and the founder of one ofSouthern California's fastest
growing personal injury lawfirms, built from scratch with
faith, grit and a few craiglessfinds.
So, lim Garcia, welcome to theElevate Media Podcast today.
(01:08):
Hey, chris, thank you forhaving me.
It's great to be here,absolutely Super excited to talk
about this risk of building abusiness, because it does come
with that.
So, like I mentioned, you'vebuilt one of the most respected
law firms injury law firms inSoCal.
But it didn't start that wayright.
Take us back to 2014, in thoseearly days of trying to start
(01:31):
your own law firm.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, so 2014 started out, just me in the office
trying to figure it out.
I never had any experiencebuilding a business.
I was kind of a new lawyer.
I passed the bar just maybelike two years before opening my
practice.
And, yeah, I would have to saythat it was pretty nerve
wracking knowing that I have topay the rent and try to find a
(01:57):
way to get clients in the door.
But I just thought you knowwhat, if I just commit myself
100%, I think I could figure itout.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, and I think that's one of the biggest thing
is like just taking that leapright, um, and like just taking
the risk and taking that actionto get started, to get that
momentum slowly churning.
Um.
You know I mentioned craig atthe beginning because I believe
in your bio you know you hadsome stories involving craiglist
furniture and family support.
(02:24):
Can you kind of dive into thata little bit?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean to start , I was my wife and I.
We were in debt.
We had a lot of student loandebt, we were both lawyers and
we were just saddled with over$100,000 in student loan debt.
So we didn't have much money,but we did have immense support
with our family.
We were living with my parentsat the time and, yeah, I just
needed to make sure that theplace was furnished.
(02:48):
So where else do you turn toget good deals?
You go to Craigslist and seewhat people have on there and
they wanted more than I paid.
But we negotiated and just like, hey, this is all we got, it's
a couple hundred bucks.
And they said, yeah, let's doit because they want to get rid
of it too.
Right, so just made the dealand started off furnishing the
(03:09):
office with that and just really, you know, just scratching and
making sure that we use everydollar as efficiently as we can.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
To start, yeah, testament to like making it work
and not necessarily having tohave the very best or the brand
new things all the time andbeing creative with solving the
problem Right and and kind oftaking you that risk and putting
yourself out there.
You know, first, firstgeneration American, I think
(03:37):
right, first first person inyour family born in the U?
S some immigrants, if I'mcorrect on that part, born in
the US, some immigrants, if I'mcorrect on that part how did
that influence kind of that workethic that you know solve the
problem, figure it out, make ithappen, take that risk.
How did that influence you?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
My mom was a business owner.
She had her own hair salon.
And I saw them from the age, Ithink, four years old, when I
saw my parents build her hairsalon and my dad went and built
it up, put all the chairs, themirrors, the flooring, and from
the beginning I saw what it tookfor them to build their
business.
And then I just always tookthat and I said I'll just apply
(04:20):
that same kind of just pickyourself up and build something
and you have no one else to turnto, you have to figure it out
on your own.
Just do whatever it takes, readthe books, talk to whoever you
can talk to, check everythingoff the list.
And I think if you do all thosesteps you'll figure it out
eventually.
It's, the information is outthere and people are willing to
(04:41):
help.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I think you know.
The big thing is just notquitting, right, you can never
beat someone who doesn't give up, who keeps going.
So your heritage is you're fromthe Philippines, right You're
right, yeah.
So do you see that a lot inthat culture of just that work
ethic like in general, or was itjust kind of more your family?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I think there's definitely an immigrant
mentality, um for filipinos thatcome to america, where we have
to figure it out and we have towork hard, and um, we just have
to make sure that we doeverything that's necessary to
succeed and really also um befrugal in in your spending and
make sure that you're notspending your money on anything
(05:25):
luxurious or extravagant.
Just the basics and have thatcovered.
And yeah, I applied that to thebusiness too.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, and I think that's a good thing, especially
with social media.
Like, we see all the highlightreels right and we think we have
to have certain things or docertain things a certain way or
do certain things a certain way.
But for you you kind of diveinto, you had something going
(05:52):
before law right.
That was like kind of a goodthing and you kind of pivoted.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I believe you're a photographer right Previously,
yeah, so before law school, Iwas a legal assistant and I was
also working as a photographerfor the los angeles clippers and
I wanted to be a photographer.
I love journalism, I lovephotography, I love basketball,
and it was just kind of like allthose things all at once, yeah,
and while I was there it justthe job, uh, became a job in the
(06:24):
end, and I think I learned alesson that everything, no
matter how much you love it,everything becomes work.
Everything becomes a job in theend.
So then I pivoted.
I said you know, let me find away to help more people and make
more of a change in the worldand also, of course, make more
money so that I can provide formy family in the future.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I think that's the that could be a tough pill
to swallow, right?
Like man, I love that as mypassion.
But, um, yeah, I kind of am notlike in the future that this
will hold.
Like it kind of is monotonousor whatever it is to shift to to
a more instead of self-centered, or like I like this too.
What can I do that can servemore people that I can enjoy?
(07:10):
Still, that will provide, Ithink is a is a huge thing.
So when you did that and youwalked away from you know, that
photographer job with theclippers, you didn't have much,
right.
You had, you know, positivemindset.
To start your own firm had tobe pretty scary, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, starting my own firm back then was very scary.
Like I said, I had noexperience, didn't have money
and I did not know what was tocome.
I just knew I had to find a way.
And I think, yeah, when yourback is against the wall and you
have to find a way out, youhave to make it work.
You're doing everythingpossible to make it work.
(07:47):
You're reading all the books,you're talking to all the people
, people, and you're putting inthe work from from morning until
night, and it's it's neverenough time, and I just, you
know, invested all my time,energy, money into getting it
off the ground, and I thinkthat's the hardest part of it.
This is getting it off theground.
It's like trying to fly anairplane.
It takes so much energy to getthat plane off the ground and
(08:11):
you have to keep on ascendingand then, finally, when you do
reach a certain height, you cankind of just glide right.
But the beginning is reallyreally tough and and scary.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean same thing with, with, with the flight yeah
, and I like to preference like,yes, the risk of starting
something not knowing if it willsucceed or if it'll fail, it
can be daunting, right.
But if you truly like, expandyour view of it all, like, what
is the actual risk, right, maybeyou get in a little bit of debt
(08:42):
, maybe you get the pain of likehave to say, yeah, like that
failed, the embarrassment kindof thing, but it's not going to
kill you, right?
So the risk you you know, if wecan look at it a bigger
viewpoint isn't reallynecessarily we may get a bigger
deal than I think it it reallyshould be right definitely.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I think that's because we're you alluded to it
like we're social creatures andwe do not want to fail, because
if we fail then maybe we'llbecome, you know, an outcast or
pariah or embarrassed in ourcommunity for all the people
that saw us fail.
Yeah, but ultimately, like,like they say, the biggest risk
is not taking any risk at all,because if you don't take the
(09:24):
risk, you don't take the shot,you'll never make the shot,
you'll never, you know, haveyour dreams come true and ever
you'll never succeed oraccomplish what you want to
accomplish if you, if you don'ttake that risk.
So taking the risk, um, isreally not that much of a risk
at all.
And if people, if you fail, Imean you feel like cause, no one
was paying attention to youanyway, so like who even knows
(09:45):
that you're failing?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
That's a good point.
Yeah, uh, no one's going to payattention anyway.
That's good, I like that.
So you know, do you remember apoint as you're building your
law firm that you were likemaybe this is going to fail,
maybe it's not going to work?
Did you ever have that kind ofmoment of like this, like make
it or break it, like I don'tknow, like this is crazy?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I mean really, I think that doubt is always there
.
You just never know what'sgoing to happen.
But the first six months to ayear was really difficult
because there wasn't moneycoming in.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I mean personal injury.
We don't get money until maybesix months to a year after we
even get the case, and I have tokeep the firm afloat while
working on these cases, and thenare we going to continue to get
cases.
So the first six months to ayear was hard, but then, after I
saw the first couple of checkscome in, I said you know what
(10:39):
this is going to work out.
I'm going to figure this out.
Just need to get more of thesecases and more reviews.
Get positive reviews online.
Build a reputation.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's just going to go up from here.
Yeah, so how did you findwhat's your best avenue, or what
your best avenue was ofbringing in more business?
Because, I mean, there'sthere's different pathways to do
it, different ways to go aboutit.
What did you find worked wellfor you to bring in new clients?
What worked the?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
best for me was local SEO and in 2014, nobody was
really focusing on gettingreviews for their business and
it was just kind of a new thingwhere people say, oh, people are
shifting to the cell phone tolook up businesses, they're not
using computers, they're usingtheir cell phone, they're not
(11:28):
using the white pages.
It was still kind of newcompared to where it is today.
So everyone's already glued totheir phones, everyone's going
to be on the cell phone lookingup businesses and it's like now
we look you know 2025, like, ofcourse, everyone knows that, but
in 2014, it wasn't as obviousas it is now.
So I just focused on the localSEO, getting reviews, doing a
(11:50):
good job for clients.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And that was a huge factor in just getting me ahead
of the people in the area.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So you, had that social proof there that people
could find when they searchedyou.
Yeah, the social proof ofpeople.
If they searched for a caraccident lawyer in the area or
they looked up my name becausethey found me somewhere else,
someone referred me over theywould say, oh, like, yeah, he
has the most reviews.
Oh, he has um great reviewsmore than any you know, more
than other people in the area oreven farther.
So, um, yeah, it's, it's reallyimportant.
(12:22):
I mean, you can brag aboutyourself, but it means a hundred
times more when somebody,someone else, is bragging about
you absolutely, yeah, I thinkit's.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's super crucial to have those testimonials um,
those examples of what otherpeople have experienced, for
people to go to um, because, aswe're building this, like people
, there's there's risk forpeople wanting to work with us
or be our clients.
You know so they have.
We can mitigate some of that ormake it less risky, I think
(12:52):
that's.
But even along our businessjourney, like after starting,
like like we mentioned, startingis a huge risk, like you're
taking that risk, um betting onyourself.
You know now, right For you,almost 11 years later or 11
years later, what are some risksthat you still have to navigate
(13:13):
or that you are navigating,being so seasoned in your
business.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So I don't know how familiar you are with the
personal injury space, but it'sextremely competitive, so
there's always somewhat a newoffice starting a business.
There's always the bigger guyis just spending more money or
the smaller guys.
Is everyone just spending moremoney?
So smaller guys, just everyonejust spending more money.
So in turn, we have to spendmore money too.
We're always looking everymonth at the advertising.
(13:39):
How much are we spending?
How much does it cost?
What's increasing?
Where else do we need to putadvertisements?
How else do we reach out to ourprevious clients to make sure
that they remember us becausethey had an accident a while ago
?
We need to stay top of mind,and all that costs money and we
have to make sure that.
Are we spending the money inthe right place?
And if we do this but do spendthe money like is it, is there
(14:02):
going to be a return on thatinvestment?
so I and it's just getting moreand more expensive, like daily,
like it just I just increased mybudget for, um, like, let's say
, I increase my budget for yelpand I'm like I go on and I check
it out and I say, oh, our adsaren't even showing up anymore
and it's because all the otherfirms are increasing their
(14:23):
budget and increasing the costper click and I'll know your
advertising budget is spent in aweek.
Jeez.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So you find paid ads are doing well for you, but the
budgets are just continuing toincrease.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, it's like a big game of chicken with these
other firms.
Everyone's just spending andthey say, okay, let's just price
them out.
They're going to stop spending.
And then when the smaller firmsstop spending, then their price
per click goes down and like,okay, now we're back to normal.
So it's really like okay, howlong can?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
you push out a little guy saying yeah, yeah.
So if you didn't have the adbudget, what would?
What would be your direction to?
To grow, yeah.
And if you?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
don't have that budget, that's all right, you
can still figure it out.
I mean, yeah, there's so manyavenues where you can just get
attention for free, eitherfacebook, instagram, tiktok you
just create something there andyou can post for free, just if
you I mean, if you want to justjust flood it just, yeah, keep
on posting and, um, that's,that's free attention.
You just have to.
(15:26):
You have to have the time tocreate the content, yeah, and
that doesn't take much time ifyou're willing to put yourself
out there, you know, get thecamera and you face it to
yourself and say something, saythank you, say why you're the
best or whatever how you canhelp.
And that's what I would do if Ididn't have an ad budget.
I would create just a bunch offree content and provide value
to people.
I tell them what they can doafter an accident or whatever
(15:48):
they're looking for, just themost google terms, most most
googled questions.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Just answer those questions for them, yeah 100 and
I think you've got on somethingright there for any business.
Like, go to google, type insome keywords, see what
questions pop up that people aresearching because those are
going to be the top hits, andthen, uh, create youtube videos
around that, because thenyoutube is the biggest, second
biggest search engine.
Uh, so people are gonna be like, hey, how do I, you know, go
(16:13):
about?
I had an injury at a in a caraccident like what do I need to
do or what are the steps, andyou have a video.
It's gonna pop up.
Uh, because now with AI too,you talk about SEO searches.
You talk about SEO searchingearlier.
Now you got you know AI, yeah,optimization stuff, where it's
filtering through and pullingthings up, and so it pulls out a
(16:35):
video.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Um, so, yeah, I mean you can do that free, which is
great, um yeah, if you'restarting out, whatever business
you're at, you have time to playwith the chad, cpt, ai tools.
I think you might be even in abetter position than someone
that has a business already.
Yeah, because you get to findout what those tools are and
leverage it, versus someone,like, where you have a business
(16:56):
established, like like me, likeI don't have time to play with
those things right now.
Right, but somebody that's upand coming that's gonna figure
it out.
They, they can, they might beable to create, you know,
hundreds of pieces of content ina second and then, before you
know, it's like oh, I'm havingto catch up.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, it's crazy what , and it's, it's, it's.
You know, everything comes prosand cons, and so social media,
ai, you know, use as a positivetool, great, uh.
And so, yeah, if you're juststarting out, you don't have the
ad budget, um, because I think,too, you have to know your
market before you really pushout ads as well, to make it make
it worth your, your, yourdollars.
(17:30):
So, um, but it's such a, yeah,such a evolving, continuously
evolving thing and, uh, we'llsee how AI continues to shift,
uh, the business and marketingside of things, um, as we go.
But, um, how, with that too,like, um, you know we're both
fathers, right, we both havekids.
Um, that changes our.
(17:51):
You know how we lead ourhouseholds, too, right?
Um, so how do you, how do yougo about doing that?
How do you balance or I hatebalance, not, really, there's no
balance how do you harmonize,you know, growing a business
with being present in yourfamily, family's lives?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I mean that's, that's , that's's the eternal question
I think it's finding thatbalance as a business owner and
as a parent.
So I have, yeah, I have threeyoung girls and, yeah, they you
know my family needs my, my timeand attention and I want to be
there for them for all the bigmoments.
And you also also have theoffice that's always calling,
always beckoning, doesn't carewhat time of day it is, day or
(18:29):
night.
There's always some kind offire to put out and I don't know
if I really have necessarily ananswer for it.
You just have to accept thesituation, really, that both
will always be calling for youand when you're doing one you do
that 100 and when you're doingthe other, you do that a hundred
percent.
(18:49):
Um, but I don't mean like ifyou're with the kids, you don't
work at all.
Maybe when they're bikingaround in circles, then you
could check your phone andanswer some emails.
I mean, right, yeah, I worry.
If you're on a break, like, youcan pay attention to what the
family needs and and you know,book flights or book hotel,
(19:10):
whatever it is that you need todo as a parent catch up when you
have a moment Right, and Ithink it's just something else
has to give in your life.
So your, your hobbies and yourother passions you probably will
need to give up on those alittle bit.
Like I love basketball, I lovewatching you playing it, and
that is I have to give that up.
(19:31):
Yeah, I love watching youplaying it, and that is I have
to give that up.
Yeah, I'm not playing orwatching as much as I used to.
Now I just watch highlightsversus.
I used to watch games yeah, Iused to go play games and now I
just shoot around for a minuteor two and that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think how you find balance between work and life is
that everything else goes tothe wayside a bit yep, yeah, and
that's kind of like like I likethe word harmony because, like
balance, I think of scale, uh,and so like some things weigh
more than others on the scale,so you have to kind of balance
it out, and so what is that?
But harmony is, like you know,I think, music.
(20:05):
I think how do you get allthese melodies, uh, you know, in
your, your life to kind of justmesh and create something
beautiful that you know you andeveryone else can enjoy?
And yeah, it's, it's.
I mean, I got two young boys,we're about to have a third in
October, and so it's like, yeah,just like continuously, you
(20:27):
know, shifting and pivoting, andyou know, finding the harmony
with everything is, is is achallenge in itself, right, so
what do you want?
You know you talked about, youknow you had your daughters as
an entrepreneur.
What do you want them to seeand learn from you on this
journey?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I would like my girls to see that hard work pays off
good, because a lot of timesthey see things that are hard
and they say, well, and theywant to give up, they don't want
to push through.
They say, oh, I don't want todo that because it's hard, like
I like.
I like volleyball, I likebasketball, I like tennis, but
it's, it's hard and I'm.
Yes, things that are rewarding,things that are cool, they're
(21:14):
hard and that's what makes themrewarding, that's what makes
them cool.
So, if you go through the fire,you go through the difficulty,
you make the on a daily basislike there is going to be that
um, that reward and then thatparticle, whatever it is goals
(21:36):
that you have you can you canachieve those things through
just really simple, just hardwork, discipline and sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, I like that.
You added, and you got to buildthat character in them, right,
that they don't shy away fromthe hard thing and that they can
take their own.
You know, calculator risks inlife, but with that comes some
struggle and that's just part ofit, right, it's not going to be
easy.
It wasn't meant to be easy, butit was meant to be, you know,
(22:04):
enjoyed still and impactful and,you know, beautiful, right?
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I love just your story and beautiful right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, I love that and I love
just your story and your journeythat you've been through, and
here at the end I'd love to justgo through some rapid fire kind
of questions and see youranswer for this, outside of
starting your law firm, what isone risk you took that paid off
(22:31):
big?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
introducing myself to my wife, all right nice, how
did?
That go?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
was that, was that?
Uh, what was that introductionlike?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
uh it was.
It was a bit nerve-wracking.
So we were at the gym, I waswas on the treadmill oh yeah,
that is a big one.
And then she goes up next to me.
I didn't know her at all.
She goes next to me on thetreadmill, next to me and she
puts a book down on thetreadmill and it's like a study
guide for the bar exam.
(23:04):
Oh, wow.
And I just I'm like, wow, Ihave to say something, right?
I just think I said, oh, areyou studying for the bar exam?
And that's how it started.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's so cool, that's awesome.
And taking that moment like outof all the gyms and all the
treadmills in the world, shestepped into that one.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
you know and went right next to me.
Yeah, it was just a gift.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like it was like wow, I have to say something like
that's cool.
Oh, and, by the way, there werelike 10 treadmills and they
were all open.
That's awesome, that's so cool,that's great.
Uh, I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Um, next one, uh a book quote or scripture that
guided you along your journey?
I would say that the bible,this too shall pass.
That's a huge one that you know.
I don't have it like on thewall or anything, yeah, but I
find myself turning to that whensomething has gone wrong for me
yeah, and if I'm feeling sad ordepressed or anxious, it's like
(24:05):
, okay, there's a huge problemfacing me, but with time this
will pass.
So just there's that, justassurance that I know that
whatever it is that I'm goingthrough will be over at some
point I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, anything, yeah, all storms have to end right,
uh.
But like, even with that, likeall good stuff comes to an end,
too right, that will pass and so, being able to be in the moment
, enjoy it, because that's agood, that's an excellent point.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yes, and that makes you just appreciate whatever it
is that's in front of you.
Like this is gonna come to anend, yeah, so just enjoy it, or
just take, appreciate everymoment.
Whatever's in front of you good, bad or indifferent just
appreciate it, because it's notgonna be there forever.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, I love that quote too, so I'm.
That's awesome you brought thatup.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Um, what's one thing you wish more business owners
understood about risk that riskis the barrier to success, it's
the cost of admission, yeah,really.
Like you have to take the riskif you want to succeed, and
that's it's just a necessity.
(25:11):
Like if you don't take risk,you're not going to be able to
scale your business or grow yourbusiness the way you want, and
that's what prevents people fromtaking the next step.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, I love that that's a good one.
And the last one what's Godbeen teaching you lately?
What's God?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
been teaching me lately?
Yeah, what's God been teachingme lately?
Yeah, oh, wow, I can't.
I don't know if I could rapidfire this one.
That's all right.
What's a lesson recently thatI've been?
I mean, recently, I've justbeen really grateful for
(25:47):
everything and talking to himmore.
Yeah, just expressing mygratitude for everything as much
as I can, and I don't know whatverse there is that expresses
that, but I'm aware that in myprayers that I'm always just
expressing gratitude foreverything.
Even if it's something that Iview as bad or something that's
not something that I that I viewis bad or something that's not
(26:10):
something that I like, I stillsee it as like okay.
Thank you for this opportunityfor me to overcome this
challenge.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, that's, I love that.
And we were just talking in oursmall group Mike, we're in a
couple of smaller at church andwe were talking to.
They asked a question.
One of the individuals said um,how well do you celebrate what
God is going to do?
Uh, like, how, how many times?
(26:39):
Or how well do you just kind ofcelebrate, even in the midst of
a storm or you know, unknown,like celebrating like actually,
like verbally, like saysomething about, like you know,
whatever you're about to do,like super excited, or I know
you're going to be doingsomething great, even though I
don't know what it is, and Iactually celebrate that moment.
And it was like like and justcrazy.
That same day I was like Iliterally just like kind of had
(27:00):
like a fist pump moment with god, like man, like I don't know
what you're about to do, butlike there's just so much that
you're you're working throughall of this stuff to better your
kingdom and things and using me.
It was just like a kind ofmoment and I think that was an
interesting question.
But I love the gratitude parttoo, like just being grateful
(27:22):
for whatever it is the lesson,the learning or the good stuff
that he gives.
I think that's a really cool,cool thing to to kind of put out
there and teaching him.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I think it really helps just centering
yourself and reducing any kindof anxiety that you might have
and just being being feelingfulfilled and being being happy.
Yeah, it's just grateful forwhatever is being given to you.
Then how can you not be, uh,fulfilled and happy, absolutely?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
so well, lem, this has been fantastic.
I really enjoyed talking to youon this episode, um and all the
you know insight you've givenyour journey and about risk and
how it's necessary.
If people want to get connectedto you or just learn or see
what you're doing on socialmedia, where's the best place
for them to go to connect withyou?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
My Instagram at lember seal law.
You can email me lem at lemberseal lawcom.
That's the best way.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Awesome.
So, yeah, if anyone you know isout there listening, get
connected with lamb.
Just see what he's doing,support him If you need an
injury while you're in the area,or even not reach out to him.
But again, Lem, thanks so muchfor being on the LV Media
Podcast today.
Thank you for having meAbsolutely, and if you're
listening to this and youhaven't yet, make sure you go.
(28:48):
Follow the show.
It just allows us to get theseepisodes in front of more people
, to help and make a biggerdifference in the world.
But until next time, continueto go out there, elevate your
life, elevate your brand, andwe'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Thank you for listening to the Elevate Media
Podcast.
Don't forget to subscribe andleave a review.
See you in the next episode.
Welcome to the Elevate Media Podcast with your
host, chris Anderson.
In this show, chris and hisguests will share their
knowledge and experience on howto go from zero to successful
entrepreneur.
They have built theirbusinesses from scratch and are
now ready to give back to thosewho are just starting.
Let's get ready to learn, growand elevate our businesses.
And now your host, chrisAnderson.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome back to another recording of the Elevate
Media Podcast.
I am Chris Anderson, your host,chris Anderson.
Enough to get things goingbecause there is risk involved,
so we brought on an expert.
He's also a lawyer, so I'llwatch what I say.
(00:47):
I'm just kidding.
He is a first generationAmerican, devoted husband and
father and the founder of one ofSouthern California's fastest
growing personal injury lawfirms, built from scratch with
faith, grit and a few craiglessfinds.
So, lim Garcia, welcome to theElevate Media Podcast today.
(01:08):
Hey, chris, thank you forhaving me.
It's great to be here,absolutely Super excited to talk
about this risk of building abusiness, because it does come
with that.
So, like I mentioned, you'vebuilt one of the most respected
law firms injury law firms inSoCal.
But it didn't start that wayright.
Take us back to 2014, in thoseearly days of trying to start
(01:31):
your own law firm.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, so 2014 started out, just me in the office
trying to figure it out.
I never had any experiencebuilding a business.
I was kind of a new lawyer.
I passed the bar just maybelike two years before opening my
practice.
And, yeah, I would have to saythat it was pretty nerve
wracking knowing that I have topay the rent and try to find a
(01:57):
way to get clients in the door.
But I just thought you knowwhat, if I just commit myself
100%, I think I could figure itout.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, and I think that's one of the biggest thing
is like just taking that leapright, um, and like just taking
the risk and taking that actionto get started, to get that
momentum slowly churning.
Um.
You know I mentioned craig atthe beginning because I believe
in your bio you know you hadsome stories involving craiglist
furniture and family support.
(02:24):
Can you kind of dive into thata little bit?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean to start , I was my wife and I.
We were in debt.
We had a lot of student loandebt, we were both lawyers and
we were just saddled with over$100,000 in student loan debt.
So we didn't have much money,but we did have immense support
with our family.
We were living with my parentsat the time and, yeah, I just
needed to make sure that theplace was furnished.
(02:48):
So where else do you turn toget good deals?
You go to Craigslist and seewhat people have on there and
they wanted more than I paid.
But we negotiated and just like, hey, this is all we got, it's
a couple hundred bucks.
And they said, yeah, let's doit because they want to get rid
of it too.
Right, so just made the dealand started off furnishing the
(03:09):
office with that and just really, you know, just scratching and
making sure that we use everydollar as efficiently as we can.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
To start, yeah, testament to like making it work
and not necessarily having tohave the very best or the brand
new things all the time andbeing creative with solving the
problem Right and and kind oftaking you that risk and putting
yourself out there.
You know, first, firstgeneration American, I think
(03:37):
right, first first person inyour family born in the U?
S some immigrants, if I'mcorrect on that part, born in
the US, some immigrants, if I'mcorrect on that part how did
that influence kind of that workethic that you know solve the
problem, figure it out, make ithappen, take that risk.
How did that influence you?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
My mom was a business owner.
She had her own hair salon.
And I saw them from the age, Ithink, four years old, when I
saw my parents build her hairsalon and my dad went and built
it up, put all the chairs, themirrors, the flooring, and from
the beginning I saw what it tookfor them to build their
business.
And then I just always tookthat and I said I'll just apply
(04:20):
that same kind of just pickyourself up and build something
and you have no one else to turnto, you have to figure it out
on your own.
Just do whatever it takes, readthe books, talk to whoever you
can talk to, check everythingoff the list.
And I think if you do all thosesteps you'll figure it out
eventually.
It's, the information is outthere and people are willing to
(04:41):
help.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I think you know.
The big thing is just notquitting, right, you can never
beat someone who doesn't give up, who keeps going.
So your heritage is you're fromthe Philippines, right You're
right, yeah.
So do you see that a lot inthat culture of just that work
ethic like in general, or was itjust kind of more your family?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I think there's definitely an immigrant
mentality, um for filipinos thatcome to america, where we have
to figure it out and we have towork hard, and um, we just have
to make sure that we doeverything that's necessary to
succeed and really also um befrugal in in your spending and
make sure that you're notspending your money on anything
(05:25):
luxurious or extravagant.
Just the basics and have thatcovered.
And yeah, I applied that to thebusiness too.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, and I think that's a good thing, especially
with social media.
Like, we see all the highlightreels right and we think we have
to have certain things or docertain things a certain way or
do certain things a certain way.
But for you you kind of diveinto, you had something going
(05:52):
before law right.
That was like kind of a goodthing and you kind of pivoted.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I believe you're a photographer right Previously,
yeah, so before law school, Iwas a legal assistant and I was
also working as a photographerfor the los angeles clippers and
I wanted to be a photographer.
I love journalism, I lovephotography, I love basketball,
and it was just kind of like allthose things all at once, yeah,
and while I was there it justthe job, uh, became a job in the
(06:24):
end, and I think I learned alesson that everything, no
matter how much you love it,everything becomes work.
Everything becomes a job in theend.
So then I pivoted.
I said you know, let me find away to help more people and make
more of a change in the worldand also, of course, make more
money so that I can provide formy family in the future.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I think that's the that could be a tough pill
to swallow, right?
Like man, I love that as mypassion.
But, um, yeah, I kind of am notlike in the future that this
will hold.
Like it kind of is monotonousor whatever it is to shift to to
a more instead of self-centered, or like I like this too.
What can I do that can servemore people that I can enjoy?
(07:10):
Still, that will provide, Ithink is a is a huge thing.
So when you did that and youwalked away from you know, that
photographer job with theclippers, you didn't have much,
right.
You had, you know, positivemindset.
To start your own firm had tobe pretty scary, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, starting my own firm back then was very scary.
Like I said, I had noexperience, didn't have money
and I did not know what was tocome.
I just knew I had to find a way.
And I think, yeah, when yourback is against the wall and you
have to find a way out, youhave to make it work.
You're doing everythingpossible to make it work.
(07:47):
You're reading all the books,you're talking to all the people
, people, and you're putting inthe work from from morning until
night, and it's it's neverenough time, and I just, you
know, invested all my time,energy, money into getting it
off the ground, and I thinkthat's the hardest part of it.
This is getting it off theground.
It's like trying to fly anairplane.
It takes so much energy to getthat plane off the ground and
(08:11):
you have to keep on ascendingand then, finally, when you do
reach a certain height, you cankind of just glide right.
But the beginning is reallyreally tough and and scary.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean same thing with, with, with the flight yeah
, and I like to preference like,yes, the risk of starting
something not knowing if it willsucceed or if it'll fail, it
can be daunting, right.
But if you truly like, expandyour view of it all, like, what
is the actual risk, right, maybeyou get in a little bit of debt
(08:42):
, maybe you get the pain of likehave to say, yeah, like that
failed, the embarrassment kindof thing, but it's not going to
kill you, right?
So the risk you you know, if wecan look at it a bigger
viewpoint isn't reallynecessarily we may get a bigger
deal than I think it it reallyshould be right definitely.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I think that's because we're you alluded to it
like we're social creatures andwe do not want to fail, because
if we fail then maybe we'llbecome, you know, an outcast or
pariah or embarrassed in ourcommunity for all the people
that saw us fail.
Yeah, but ultimately, like,like they say, the biggest risk
is not taking any risk at all,because if you don't take the
(09:24):
risk, you don't take the shot,you'll never make the shot,
you'll never, you know, haveyour dreams come true and ever
you'll never succeed oraccomplish what you want to
accomplish if you, if you don'ttake that risk.
So taking the risk, um, isreally not that much of a risk
at all.
And if people, if you fail, Imean you feel like cause, no one
was paying attention to youanyway, so like who even knows
(09:45):
that you're failing?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
That's a good point.
Yeah, uh, no one's going to payattention anyway.
That's good, I like that.
So you know, do you remember apoint as you're building your
law firm that you were likemaybe this is going to fail,
maybe it's not going to work?
Did you ever have that kind ofmoment of like this, like make
it or break it, like I don'tknow, like this is crazy?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I mean really, I think that doubt is always there
.
You just never know what'sgoing to happen.
But the first six months to ayear was really difficult
because there wasn't moneycoming in.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I mean personal injury.
We don't get money until maybesix months to a year after we
even get the case, and I have tokeep the firm afloat while
working on these cases, and thenare we going to continue to get
cases.
So the first six months to ayear was hard, but then, after I
saw the first couple of checkscome in, I said you know what
(10:39):
this is going to work out.
I'm going to figure this out.
Just need to get more of thesecases and more reviews.
Get positive reviews online.
Build a reputation.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's just going to go up from here.
Yeah, so how did you findwhat's your best avenue, or what
your best avenue was ofbringing in more business?
Because, I mean, there'sthere's different pathways to do
it, different ways to go aboutit.
What did you find worked wellfor you to bring in new clients?
What worked the?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
best for me was local SEO and in 2014, nobody was
really focusing on gettingreviews for their business and
it was just kind of a new thingwhere people say, oh, people are
shifting to the cell phone tolook up businesses, they're not
using computers, they're usingtheir cell phone, they're not
(11:28):
using the white pages.
It was still kind of newcompared to where it is today.
So everyone's already glued totheir phones, everyone's going
to be on the cell phone lookingup businesses and it's like now
we look you know 2025, like, ofcourse, everyone knows that, but
in 2014, it wasn't as obviousas it is now.
So I just focused on the localSEO, getting reviews, doing a
(11:50):
good job for clients.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And that was a huge factor in just getting me ahead
of the people in the area.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So you, had that social proof there that people
could find when they searchedyou.
Yeah, the social proof ofpeople.
If they searched for a caraccident lawyer in the area or
they looked up my name becausethey found me somewhere else,
someone referred me over theywould say, oh, like, yeah, he
has the most reviews.
Oh, he has um great reviewsmore than any you know, more
than other people in the area oreven farther.
So, um, yeah, it's, it's reallyimportant.
(12:22):
I mean, you can brag aboutyourself, but it means a hundred
times more when somebody,someone else, is bragging about
you absolutely, yeah, I thinkit's.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's super crucial to have those testimonials um,
those examples of what otherpeople have experienced, for
people to go to um, because, aswe're building this, like people
, there's there's risk forpeople wanting to work with us
or be our clients.
You know so they have.
We can mitigate some of that ormake it less risky, I think
(12:52):
that's.
But even along our businessjourney, like after starting,
like like we mentioned, startingis a huge risk, like you're
taking that risk, um betting onyourself.
You know now, right For you,almost 11 years later or 11
years later, what are some risksthat you still have to navigate
(13:13):
or that you are navigating,being so seasoned in your
business.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So I don't know how familiar you are with the
personal injury space, but it'sextremely competitive, so
there's always somewhat a newoffice starting a business.
There's always the bigger guyis just spending more money or
the smaller guys.
Is everyone just spending moremoney?
So smaller guys, just everyonejust spending more money.
So in turn, we have to spendmore money too.
We're always looking everymonth at the advertising.
(13:39):
How much are we spending?
How much does it cost?
What's increasing?
Where else do we need to putadvertisements?
How else do we reach out to ourprevious clients to make sure
that they remember us becausethey had an accident a while ago
?
We need to stay top of mind,and all that costs money and we
have to make sure that.
Are we spending the money inthe right place?
And if we do this but do spendthe money like is it, is there
(14:02):
going to be a return on thatinvestment?
so I and it's just getting moreand more expensive, like daily,
like it just I just increased mybudget for, um, like, let's say
, I increase my budget for yelpand I'm like I go on and I check
it out and I say, oh, our adsaren't even showing up anymore
and it's because all the otherfirms are increasing their
(14:23):
budget and increasing the costper click and I'll know your
advertising budget is spent in aweek.
Jeez.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So you find paid ads are doing well for you, but the
budgets are just continuing toincrease.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, it's like a big game of chicken with these
other firms.
Everyone's just spending andthey say, okay, let's just price
them out.
They're going to stop spending.
And then when the smaller firmsstop spending, then their price
per click goes down and like,okay, now we're back to normal.
So it's really like okay, howlong can?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
you push out a little guy saying yeah, yeah.
So if you didn't have the adbudget, what would?
What would be your direction to?
To grow, yeah.
And if you?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
don't have that budget, that's all right, you
can still figure it out.
I mean, yeah, there's so manyavenues where you can just get
attention for free, eitherfacebook, instagram, tiktok you
just create something there andyou can post for free, just if
you I mean, if you want to justjust flood it just, yeah, keep
on posting and, um, that's,that's free attention.
You just have to.
(15:26):
You have to have the time tocreate the content, yeah, and
that doesn't take much time ifyou're willing to put yourself
out there, you know, get thecamera and you face it to
yourself and say something, saythank you, say why you're the
best or whatever how you canhelp.
And that's what I would do if Ididn't have an ad budget.
I would create just a bunch offree content and provide value
to people.
I tell them what they can doafter an accident or whatever
(15:48):
they're looking for, just themost google terms, most most
googled questions.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Just answer those questions for them, yeah 100 and
I think you've got on somethingright there for any business.
Like, go to google, type insome keywords, see what
questions pop up that people aresearching because those are
going to be the top hits, andthen, uh, create youtube videos
around that, because thenyoutube is the biggest, second
biggest search engine.
Uh, so people are gonna be like, hey, how do I, you know, go
(16:13):
about?
I had an injury at a in a caraccident like what do I need to
do or what are the steps, andyou have a video.
It's gonna pop up.
Uh, because now with AI too,you talk about SEO searches.
You talk about SEO searchingearlier.
Now you got you know AI, yeah,optimization stuff, where it's
filtering through and pullingthings up, and so it pulls out a
(16:35):
video.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Um, so, yeah, I mean you can do that free, which is
great, um yeah, if you'restarting out, whatever business
you're at, you have time to playwith the chad, cpt, ai tools.
I think you might be even in abetter position than someone
that has a business already.
Yeah, because you get to findout what those tools are and
leverage it, versus someone,like, where you have a business
(16:56):
established, like like me, likeI don't have time to play with
those things right now.
Right, but somebody that's upand coming that's gonna figure
it out.
They, they can, they might beable to create, you know,
hundreds of pieces of content ina second and then, before you
know, it's like oh, I'm havingto catch up.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, it's crazy what , and it's, it's, it's.
You know, everything comes prosand cons, and so social media,
ai, you know, use as a positivetool, great, uh.
And so, yeah, if you're juststarting out, you don't have the
ad budget, um, because I think,too, you have to know your
market before you really pushout ads as well, to make it make
it worth your, your, yourdollars.
(17:30):
So, um, but it's such a, yeah,such a evolving, continuously
evolving thing and, uh, we'llsee how AI continues to shift,
uh, the business and marketingside of things, um, as we go.
But, um, how, with that too,like, um, you know we're both
fathers, right, we both havekids.
Um, that changes our.
(17:51):
You know how we lead ourhouseholds, too, right?
Um, so how do you, how do yougo about doing that?
How do you balance or I hatebalance, not, really, there's no
balance how do you harmonize,you know, growing a business
with being present in yourfamily, family's lives?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I mean that's, that's , that's's the eternal question
I think it's finding thatbalance as a business owner and
as a parent.
So I have, yeah, I have threeyoung girls and, yeah, they you
know my family needs my, my timeand attention and I want to be
there for them for all the bigmoments.
And you also also have theoffice that's always calling,
always beckoning, doesn't carewhat time of day it is, day or
(18:29):
night.
There's always some kind offire to put out and I don't know
if I really have necessarily ananswer for it.
You just have to accept thesituation, really, that both
will always be calling for youand when you're doing one you do
that 100 and when you're doingthe other, you do that a hundred
percent.
(18:49):
Um, but I don't mean like ifyou're with the kids, you don't
work at all.
Maybe when they're bikingaround in circles, then you
could check your phone andanswer some emails.
I mean, right, yeah, I worry.
If you're on a break, like, youcan pay attention to what the
family needs and and you know,book flights or book hotel,
(19:10):
whatever it is that you need todo as a parent catch up when you
have a moment Right, and Ithink it's just something else
has to give in your life.
So your, your hobbies and yourother passions you probably will
need to give up on those alittle bit.
Like I love basketball, I lovewatching you playing it, and
that is I have to give that up.
(19:31):
Yeah, I love watching youplaying it, and that is I have
to give that up.
Yeah, I'm not playing orwatching as much as I used to.
Now I just watch highlightsversus.
I used to watch games yeah, Iused to go play games and now I
just shoot around for a minuteor two and that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think how you find balance between work and life is
that everything else goes tothe wayside a bit yep, yeah, and
that's kind of like like I likethe word harmony because, like
balance, I think of scale, uh,and so like some things weigh
more than others on the scale,so you have to kind of balance
it out, and so what is that?
But harmony is, like you know,I think, music.
(20:05):
I think how do you get allthese melodies, uh, you know, in
your, your life to kind of justmesh and create something
beautiful that you know you andeveryone else can enjoy?
And yeah, it's, it's.
I mean, I got two young boys,we're about to have a third in
October, and so it's like, yeah,just like continuously, you
(20:27):
know, shifting and pivoting, andyou know, finding the harmony
with everything is, is is achallenge in itself, right, so
what do you want?
You know you talked about, youknow you had your daughters as
an entrepreneur.
What do you want them to seeand learn from you on this
journey?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I would like my girls to see that hard work pays off
good, because a lot of timesthey see things that are hard
and they say, well, and theywant to give up, they don't want
to push through.
They say, oh, I don't want todo that because it's hard, like
I like.
I like volleyball, I likebasketball, I like tennis, but
it's, it's hard and I'm.
Yes, things that are rewarding,things that are cool, they're
(21:14):
hard and that's what makes themrewarding, that's what makes
them cool.
So, if you go through the fire,you go through the difficulty,
you make the on a daily basislike there is going to be that
um, that reward and then thatparticle, whatever it is goals
(21:36):
that you have you can you canachieve those things through
just really simple, just hardwork, discipline and sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, I like that.
You added, and you got to buildthat character in them, right,
that they don't shy away fromthe hard thing and that they can
take their own.
You know, calculator risks inlife, but with that comes some
struggle and that's just part ofit, right, it's not going to be
easy.
It wasn't meant to be easy, butit was meant to be, you know,
(22:04):
enjoyed still and impactful and,you know, beautiful, right?
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I love just your story and beautiful right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, I love that and I love
just your story and your journeythat you've been through, and
here at the end I'd love to justgo through some rapid fire kind
of questions and see youranswer for this, outside of
starting your law firm, what isone risk you took that paid off
(22:31):
big?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
introducing myself to my wife, all right nice, how
did?
That go?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
was that, was that?
Uh, what was that introductionlike?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
uh it was.
It was a bit nerve-wracking.
So we were at the gym, I waswas on the treadmill oh yeah,
that is a big one.
And then she goes up next to me.
I didn't know her at all.
She goes next to me on thetreadmill, next to me and she
puts a book down on thetreadmill and it's like a study
guide for the bar exam.
(23:04):
Oh, wow.
And I just I'm like, wow, Ihave to say something, right?
I just think I said, oh, areyou studying for the bar exam?
And that's how it started.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's so cool, that's awesome.
And taking that moment like outof all the gyms and all the
treadmills in the world, shestepped into that one.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
you know and went right next to me.
Yeah, it was just a gift.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like it was like wow, I have to say something like
that's cool.
Oh, and, by the way, there werelike 10 treadmills and they
were all open.
That's awesome, that's so cool,that's great.
Uh, I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Um, next one, uh a book quote or scripture that
guided you along your journey?
I would say that the bible,this too shall pass.
That's a huge one that you know.
I don't have it like on thewall or anything, yeah, but I
find myself turning to that whensomething has gone wrong for me
yeah, and if I'm feeling sad ordepressed or anxious, it's like
(24:05):
, okay, there's a huge problemfacing me, but with time this
will pass.
So just there's that, justassurance that I know that
whatever it is that I'm goingthrough will be over at some
point I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, anything, yeah, all storms have to end right,
uh.
But like, even with that, likeall good stuff comes to an end,
too right, that will pass and so, being able to be in the moment
, enjoy it, because that's agood, that's an excellent point.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yes, and that makes you just appreciate whatever it
is that's in front of you.
Like this is gonna come to anend, yeah, so just enjoy it, or
just take, appreciate everymoment.
Whatever's in front of you good, bad or indifferent just
appreciate it, because it's notgonna be there forever.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, I love that quote too, so I'm.
That's awesome you brought thatup.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Um, what's one thing you wish more business owners
understood about risk that riskis the barrier to success, it's
the cost of admission, yeah,really.
Like you have to take the riskif you want to succeed, and
that's it's just a necessity.
(25:11):
Like if you don't take risk,you're not going to be able to
scale your business or grow yourbusiness the way you want, and
that's what prevents people fromtaking the next step.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, I love that that's a good one.
And the last one what's Godbeen teaching you lately?
What's God?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
been teaching me lately?
Yeah, what's God been teachingme lately?
Yeah, oh, wow, I can't.
I don't know if I could rapidfire this one.
That's all right.
What's a lesson recently thatI've been?
I mean, recently, I've justbeen really grateful for
(25:47):
everything and talking to himmore.
Yeah, just expressing mygratitude for everything as much
as I can, and I don't know whatverse there is that expresses
that, but I'm aware that in myprayers that I'm always just
expressing gratitude foreverything.
Even if it's something that Iview as bad or something that's
not something that I that I viewis bad or something that's not
(26:10):
something that I like, I stillsee it as like okay.
Thank you for this opportunityfor me to overcome this
challenge.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, that's, I love that.
And we were just talking in oursmall group Mike, we're in a
couple of smaller at church andwe were talking to.
They asked a question.
One of the individuals said um,how well do you celebrate what
God is going to do?
Uh, like, how, how many times?
(26:39):
Or how well do you just kind ofcelebrate, even in the midst of
a storm or you know, unknown,like celebrating like actually,
like verbally, like saysomething about, like you know,
whatever you're about to do,like super excited, or I know
you're going to be doingsomething great, even though I
don't know what it is, and Iactually celebrate that moment.
And it was like like and justcrazy.
That same day I was like Iliterally just like kind of had
(27:00):
like a fist pump moment with god, like man, like I don't know
what you're about to do, butlike there's just so much that
you're you're working throughall of this stuff to better your
kingdom and things and using me.
It was just like a kind ofmoment and I think that was an
interesting question.
But I love the gratitude parttoo, like just being grateful
(27:22):
for whatever it is the lesson,the learning or the good stuff
that he gives.
I think that's a really cool,cool thing to to kind of put out
there and teaching him.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I think it really helps just centering
yourself and reducing any kindof anxiety that you might have
and just being being feelingfulfilled and being being happy.
Yeah, it's just grateful forwhatever is being given to you.
Then how can you not be, uh,fulfilled and happy, absolutely?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
so well, lem, this has been fantastic.
I really enjoyed talking to youon this episode, um and all the
you know insight you've givenyour journey and about risk and
how it's necessary.
If people want to get connectedto you or just learn or see
what you're doing on socialmedia, where's the best place
for them to go to connect withyou?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
My Instagram at lember seal law.
You can email me lem at lemberseal lawcom.
That's the best way.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Awesome.
So, yeah, if anyone you know isout there listening, get
connected with lamb.
Just see what he's doing,support him If you need an
injury while you're in the area,or even not reach out to him.
But again, Lem, thanks so muchfor being on the LV Media
Podcast today.
Thank you for having meAbsolutely, and if you're
listening to this and youhaven't yet, make sure you go.
(28:48):
Follow the show.
It just allows us to get theseepisodes in front of more people
, to help and make a biggerdifference in the world.
But until next time, continueto go out there, elevate your
life, elevate your brand, andwe'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
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