Beyond the Headlines: Decoding Hidden Agendas in Today's Political Landscape

Clay and I tackle Senator Fetterman's increasingly independent stance against Democrat Party leadership, examining the stark contrast between his public statements and voting record as party leaders appear to be orchestrating his removal.

• President Trump's diplomatic tour through Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia has secured billions in investments while potentially driving a strategic wedge between China and Russia
• The historic selection of Chicago native Pope Leo signals potential middle ground between progressive and traditional factions within a divided Catholic Church
• Congressional confrontations at ICE facilities represent political theater rather than genuine concern for illegal immigrants or American citizens
• Governor Newsom's sudden push to dismantle homeless encampments across California fails to address where 187,000 displaced individuals will go
• Trump's tariff negotiations with China demonstrate strategic diplomatic mastery with long-term geopolitical benefits beyond economics
• Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson had their lifetime bans lifted, potentially opening the door to deserved Hall of Fame recognition

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So we usually end the show witha lighter note, something a
little funny and stuff.
But we're starting the show offtonight with with that.
This to me I find it amusing,do?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
you find it amusing?
Yeah, I should.
It's not unexpected.
But you know, if you go back,like I knew Fetterman as the
lieutenant governor inPennsylvania when I lived there
and Pennsylvania is still one ofthose states where the second
place vote getter governor isthe lieutenant governor Like
it's almost like old schoolpresident, vice president, like

(02:25):
the United States used to do,and he was a big dumb animal
back then, like you know he was.
He was the same guy.
He is now in the bowling shirtsand the hoodies and the shorts
and jeans and never dressed upand all of those things.
Um, and you remember, I I amnot a fan, was not I?
He lost the doctor or he beatDr Oz for this, for this, you

(02:46):
know, um congressional seat,which you know Dr Oz just, you
know, got put under um Kennedyjr Right, so he was for, you
know, hhs or whoever it is nowUm, but you know, fetterman had
the stroke, he was stuttering,he had health problems and this
and that, and, and the democratssupported him yeah, right, it

(03:08):
was the most you know.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
here he is uh in his finest.
It's probably actually one ofhis nicer sweatshirts that he's
uh been seen as one of his moreelegant looks that he's donned,
uh, over time.
Yeah, you know, I mean it wasas baffling then the support for
this guy, and you know what,I'm gonna take that back and say
I actually wasn as bafflingthen the support for this guy,
and you know what, I'm going totake that back and say I
actually wasn't baffling thatthey put him forward, because I

(03:29):
think what they saw in him was apuppet, like they're like, oh,
this guy, he's just a big dumblug and we're just going to put
him out front.
We're going to we're going totell him what to say, when to
say it.
We're going to use them as ascapegoat for things Like I
think they had a pretty big planfor him and, um, he's uh, he's
kind of thrown them.

(03:49):
I think, like they, they theyprobably are sitting there or
were.
I mean, this has been going onfor a little while now.
They were probably sittingthere the first time he came out
and came out and said somethingyou know against the party line
there.
Um, I think they all went, youknow, and he and he, um.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
so we've covered this multiple times along the way.
He has always voted party line.
Yes, he has come out publiclyand said things against the
party, but when it came down tocasting his ballot, he was
always party line.
Well, now I think he's startingto drift a little bit, um, and
they've even co-opted his wife,who's a little bit crazy.
Anyway, there's been someissues with her along the way,

(04:29):
but even she has come out andsaid oh, he's very, very
different.
He's thinking.
He's not thinking the same,he's not.
You know, maybe there's somedifference in his personality.
There was the issue a couple ofweeks ago about him on a plane.
Yeah, I saw that Flightattendant said put your seatbelt
on.
He basically refused to do it.
Pilot came out of the you knowout of the cockpit and had to

(04:52):
say something to him and hebasically said you know, hey,
listen, if we crash I'm going todie anyway.
Seatbelt's not going to save me, that kind of thing.
So, you know, I think the party, in fear of another Joe Biden
type incident, I think that theyhave used his you know, the
stroke that he had is, you know,the, you know hiding behind his

(05:13):
mental faculties or whatever.
They're using that again withthe President Biden thing to get
him out.
I think that is the goal.
But I think you're right, it'sbecause he's no longer following
party policy.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's you know the stroke is
what in like 2000.
I don't know, it's like 2021,22, maybe Right, ish, but you
know, just just simply for thefact that it was a while ago, he
says he's you know has somelong term effects from it.
He has been vocal about hismental health issues, some

(05:47):
learning or processing issues.
I think he has some kind ofprompter that he uses that I
don't know just like translateseverything for him so that he
can understand it.
There's a lot to be said here.
There's just so much to be saidand I'm struggling really hard
to say it in a nice way.
I mean, I'm not going to saythat I think somebody who has

(06:12):
mental handicaps, I guess wecould say should be barred from
public service by any means.
But it is interesting thatsomebody who has, you know,
admitted cognitive issues waseven put in this position anyhow
.
So you know and I think thatgoes back to what I said in the
beginning there that you know Ithink the expectations for him

(06:33):
from his party was that you knowhe was just going to be the
dumb lug that sat there and youknow pretty much did whatever
they told him.
He has come out over the past Idon't know year or two isish
and said some very smart,interesting things that were
extremely surprising to all ofus.
So I think the only thing I'msurprised at is that it's taken
them this long to start goingall right, this one's got to go.

(06:55):
He's getting a little too vocaland saying the wrong things
that we don't want to hear.
So that's my only surprise thatit's taken as long as it has.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, I think part of it is my.
My read is that they finallyco-opted his wife.
You know we had talked aboutpresident Biden and you know Dr
Jill was such a power player inthe white house, you know, even
through his mental decline,which that's a whole different
topic.
But similarly, you know, Ithink they got her on board
because she has publicly comeout and made statements, and I

(07:29):
think that's what it took.
So you know he's not followingparty policy, he's not following
party line.
I think they finally had enoughof it.
And now they're exploiting someof the things that they ran him
on, which were, you know, his.
You know he's a different guy.
He thinks independently.
He this, he that one.
He really was just a Democrat,you know, in a sweatshirt and a
pair of basketball shorts.
But cannibalism, I think, is,you know, they're eating their
own and that's what this is Like.
You follow the lines, youfollow the policies, you follow

(07:52):
what we're doing or we'regetting rid of you.
And you know I'd have to goback and look at his recent
voting record.
He hadn't strayed on the ballot, but he had strayed publicly in
what he was saying.
So I don't know, maybe this wasjust, you know, got to the
point of, or they were tired of,dealing with him or striking at
an opportunity, especiallyafter the incident on the
airplane.
So either way they're workinghard to get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, and I wonder what will happen.
You know, playing out thescenario that they managed, that
they get rid of him, they ousthim.
What will he do?
Will he switch sides, do youthink I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I don't think he's going to fade off into oblivion.
Yeah, I don't know how muchrelevancy he'll have, though,
afterward.
Watch again very much, andwe've seen this in a couple of
other places.
Watch for a shift from GovernorShapiro to put himself in the
congressional seat as part ofhis run for president.
But, either way, watch whoeverit is from Pennsylvania that
gets put in that seat.

(08:50):
But it wouldn't surprise me ifit was Shapiro himself again
setting himself up for apresidential run in 2028.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right, you know, I think this is one of those
things for the Democrat Partythat if they don't succeed in
getting rid of Fetterman, Ithink it bodes very badly for
them as far as their level ofcontrol.
Because you know, one of twothings I think is going to
happen with that party they getrid of him.
If they silence him.

(09:17):
You know, whatever their tacticis going to be, obviously it's
going to be to attack his mentalhealth and capabilities and
just destroy his reputation andcredibility.
I don't know how much he had,but if they succeed in that,
then their message, theirmessage succeeds to anyone else
who wants to go against thegrain and, you know, not toe the

(09:38):
line, it's the warning thatdon't do it.
You do what we say to do.
And that's that warning thatdon't do it.
You do what we say to do, andthat's that.
And then you know the flip sideof that is that if he goes
entirely rogue, uh, spillswhatever beans he has on these
people in this party, um, Idon't know, they're playing a
dangerous game here.
I, I'm, you know, again, it'sone of those get your popcorn

(09:58):
moments, because it's going tobe very curious to see how it
plays out.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, he could be, you know, like you said, rogue
agent, he could, you know, flipto an I instead of a D, an
independent, the way he feels.
It'll be interesting to see thereaction, you know, back in the
Keystone State PA.
But yeah, this is a dangerousgame, but I think it's strategic
by the Democratic Party and Ithink he is going to be a

(10:25):
sacrificial lamb, or that's howthey see him.
We'll just have to see how itplays out.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, absolutely, and I want to echo what you said
early on, that you know his,what he has said publicly and
what he has voted are two verydifferent things, and I think
that's really important toemphasize, because I saw, you
know, I posted like kind of likea pre show teaser, um show, uh
teaser, you know for this, witha caption and image and
everything, and I did happen toquickly catch a couple of

(10:50):
comments in there that you knowsomebody had said, uh, that they
they judged him wrongly, likeyou know, like they put them in
a better light, and I, I wouldsay, be very careful with that
line of thinking with him.
Don't, don't be deceived thatthis guy is, uh, you know, any
friend to the conservative umviewpoint on on things.
You know he's definitely saidsome things that are favorable

(11:12):
and intelligent, um, but yeah,don't, uh, don't go buying him a
beer yet, guys.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, we've pointed that out at probably a half a
dozen times over the last coupleof months really, uh, over the
last year really, but uh yearreally.
But he is again, speaks well,makes some very bipartisan, very
centrist kind of statements,but he's voted on the blue team
the whole time, so we'll seewhat happens.
But we've got bigger and betterthings, some international

(11:39):
politics, going on.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we do.
President Trump on athree-country tour right now.
He Qatar, uae and Saudi Arabia.
Yes, is it.
What do you think?
Is it about economics?
Is it about internationalrelations?
Is a little bit of both.
What's he doing?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
of both.
I mean, you're he's, you knowhe's got the master plan.
Just because we don't knowfully what it is doesn't mean
it's not there.
I don't, you know.
Obviously, of course, the, ofcourse the left has a problem
with anything he does, and thiswould be no different.
I certainly have no problemwith I get my you know that that
mom anxiety when he does thesebig trips and everything you
know, which is kind of absurd.
I mean, he's literally thepresident of the United States

(12:25):
and this is what he has to doand this is what he loves to do,
all of this.
So I mean, I see only goodthings to come from this.
Let's see, he secured $600billion investment commitment
with Saudi Arabia and he'sengaging with talks with Qatar
and the I can't see it because Ididn't make that font big
enough Clay UAE.
He also met with Syria's newpresident.

(12:53):
What else has he done?
Paper notes this time, guys.
I took it off the computer.
No shame in my game.
Let's see, yeah, and he's doinggreat things as far as I'm
concerned.
Do you see any holes in that?
Any problems?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think so.
Yes, I think that, especiallyin that part of the world,
economics and diplomacy go handin hand and economics is
diplomacy.
You know there is, there's beenconflict over us and our
development of domestic oil,right that worries the Saudis,
kuwaitis, the entire OPEC clan.
Oil, right that worries theSaudi, kuwaitis, the entire OPEC

(13:28):
clan.
So I think there's you knowhe's over there on the on behalf
of world.
You know energy capabilities,so I think there's a lot of
discussion going on with the oil.
You know with about oil, withthe OPEC and and really Saudi
Arabia being kind of the key tothat.
So that's definitely part of it.
But you're right, he gotmassive economic, you know

(13:49):
commitments from both Qatar andSaudi Arabia in the first couple
of days of this.
We're talking trillions ofdollars of business.
But you remember we lost underPresident Biden because they
were asleep at the wheel.
We had that agreement with themthat only that OPEC, that oil,
opec oil would only be under theUS dollar.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
We lost that agreement because it was like
one of those like deadline,overnight deadline things that
they didn't do anything Right.
I remember that.
Now that you're saying that,yeah, right, so now, you know,
damaging to the US dollar.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
So my guess is, behind closed doors, president
Trump is trying to reignitesomething like that, you know,
reestablish that, that type ofagreement to make sure that that
oil is traded or purchased onlyin US dollars, which will help
our economy.
I do think as well.
You know, there's that OPEC oil.
There's connectivity therebetween Saudi Arabia and China,

(14:49):
and then China and Russia.
Right, we're going to talktariffs later, but this is all
connected.
And then, of course, you've gotpeople are complaining about
Qatar because they're quoteunquote.
They back Hamas, which they'vehosted the peace talks, they've
hosted a lot of things.
Al-yadid Air Base is there,we've been operating out of the

(15:10):
ports in Qatar for decades.
Air Base is there, we've beenoperating out of the ports in
Qatar for decades.
They are a military ally andyou know and again, it's a lot
of this is economic.
So we'll see what happens.
Uae, I think, is going to bemuch the same, but I think this
is all good stuff.
You know we need for, ifnothing else, a strategic tie
into the Middle East.
We will always need, becausethat threat, you know, the

(15:32):
military threat, the threat topeace, you know around the world
, but specifically, you know, inthe middle East.
We need ties in there, um,because otherwise we're we're on
the outs and we've got noinroads.
So having these talks withthose national level leaders, uh
, is very, very important.
I will say and you, you touchedon this People are going to
complain, no matter what.
I saw something this morning.

(15:53):
You know, president Trump wasstanding there and a line or
maybe it was from yesterday aline of Saudi Arabian general
officers, from all of theirservices were coming up and they
were saluting him and he wasstanding up there and returning
their salute.
And there was this like oh,he's violating US military
protocol.
You know, he's saluting thesegenerals.
He's being subservient to that.
That's not anything about whatthat was.

(16:14):
That was a common courtesy.
He's not violating anyprotocols.
You know he, they saluted him,he saluted back.
That happens all the timeeverywhere.
So, but again, people are goingto find things to complain
about, because that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's what we do and , let's face it, anything that
Trump does is bad.
You know he could rescue hecould be caught on video
rescuing a baby from a burningbuilding, you know and they
would spin it into something godawful, right, oh yeah, positive

(16:48):
and for the benefit of thecountry, which, by the way, that
means us, the people of thiscountry.
And they'll still pick it apartand make it sound bad, when we
all know perfectly well, if itwas Biden, if it was any other
president, someone that theypicked, meaning you know they'd
be applauding and falling overthemselves to praise them.

(17:10):
And you know, nominate him fora Nobel Peace Prize.
And you know, nominate him fora Nobel peace prize.
And you know all of the thingswhich, by the way, there was
talk again of, uh, of himgetting a peace prize.
So it better happen.
That's all I can say.
I think he has well earned italready at this point.
So we'll see.
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And in these trillions of dollars of business
, uh, were, was commitment of uh, qatar to buy Boeing aircraft
from the United States.
Right, that's the the one point.
I think it's $1.3 trillion.
Um, it might've been SaudiArabia, it's one of the two
countries, but they committed tobuying Boeing aircraft.
Um, and, and that is huge,right, boeing, an American

(17:48):
company, jet liners, they couldbuy from Airbus and they could
buy from other companies, um,but they're not.
They're committed to buyingfrom Boeing.
And you know this, this giftthat they have offered of a
luxury aircraft as a stand infor Air Force One.
You know, people are again,like everything else, they are
overreacting to this One.
This is not a gift to PresidentTrump, Okay, two, we have been

(18:12):
on standby and when I say we,I'm talking the nation and the
department of defense for a newair force, one that is behind
schedule from Boeing.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Right, so the Qatari said it was like commissioned in
like 2018 or something.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, yeah, his first administration.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, so that's insane.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.
So the Qatari said listen,you've done a ton of stuff for
us and if you've never been inthe Middle East and you don't
understand the culture, this is100% normal.
It just happens to be on agrand scale because we're
talking about an airplane, butthey have the money.
Like this is again nothing.
So they offered this as a giftto fill in for Air Force One as

(18:54):
it's behind schedule, et cetera.
It is not a gift to PresidentTrump.
It's a gift to the Departmentof Defense.
Lawyers are going to getinvolved.
Is it legal?
I would tell you it's probablynot.
I would tell you.
President Trump is also notmaking a big deal out of this.
He's lashing back at people whoare making a big deal out of
this, as he should.
But I think this is way, wayoverblown.
It's an offer.

(19:14):
There's been nothing given,nothing accepted.
Everybody needs to chill out,yeah, and that includes members
of Congress on both sides of theaisle, because there are some
Republicans who are freaking outabout this too.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Right, yeah, you know .
I mean, it's like anything elsethat goes on If it's legal.
If it's not, fine, don't youknow?
It's okay.
It's not the big deal that theywant it to be, you know, and
it's not a bad thing if it's, ifit is legal.
If it doesn't break that, whatis it?
The foreign monuments clause?
Is that what it is?
I mean, I don't even know whatit is, I just know that's what
the name of it.
Um, but it forbids publicoffice holders from accepting a

(19:49):
present of any kind whatsoeverfrom any king, prince or foreign
state.
So that's what they're.
Obviously that's going to betheir, their point.
They're like, well, you'reaccepting a gift, you know, but
it's it's that in between thelines there maybe, or I don't
know, it's pretty explicit he'snot supposed to accept a present
.
Not the country, right?
Not the Department of Defense.
So if there's a loophole for it, if there's a needed loophole,

(20:10):
I'm sure he'll find it.
But he himself.
he said I've got his quote here.
He said on Monday that theplane isn't a gift to him, like
you said, but to the Departmentof Defense.
He added that it will bedecommissioned after his term
for his presidential library andthat he will not use it after
leaving office.
So it's only going to be usedduring his term.

(20:31):
He's not taking it home andputting it in the Mar-a-Lago
backyard.
It's not going on the golfcourse, guys, calm down.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
And listen.
Foreign dignitaries visitembassies, they visit our
congresspeople, visit them whenthey go overseas.
There are gifts given to thepresident, to the vice president
.
All the time there are giftsexchanged.
The reality is is those giftsare under a certain dollar
amount and when I say under acertain dollar amount I'm
talking hundreds of dollars, notthousands of dollars.

(21:00):
But mostly those gifts aregiven and accepted on behalf of
the United States of America andnot on behalf of that elected
leader that we have, and theystay generally with the White
House, with the you know thatthat Congressman's office, that
you know all of those thingsrugs and crystal and like all

(21:21):
kinds of gifts are given.
Back and forth happens all thetime.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Right and listen, I'm not.
I'm not one to throw any shots,clay, I'm not.
I'm not that kind of guy.
It's not my thing to do it, butyou know, sometimes you, you
just have to throw a little bitof a shot here.
By the way, I'm not suicidal.
I love life.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Make that public.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes, yes, just uh, stating that, uh, I think you're
supposed to put your hand upnow to prove that you're not AI.
It's a crazy world we live in,but anyhow, um uh, hillary
posted this.
I think that was today.
There's the date on it the 14th, so she posted.
Just in case you can't read itor you're listening and not
watching, she posted on X thatno one gives someone a $400

(22:01):
million jet for free withoutexpecting anything in return.
Be serious is what she posted.
And then, of course, I posted apicture of her Again.
This is for the people who arelistening, not watching.
It's a picture of her, you know, lowering her glasses or
readers, and it says we're doingirony now.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
So, yeah, really, hill, listen nobody goes to
Epstein's Island without anexpectation of a back rub from a
16-year-old girl.
Yeah so yeah, drop that mic andlisten.
You know it's just like moneyfrom the Ukrainians or the
Chinese for President Biden.
Listen, you can spin thesethings any way you want.

(22:42):
There's accountability for thatjet.
That is not going to a Swissbank account.
That's not going to Trump'sbrother.
You know Biden's brother.
You know they're not.
This is very, very public.
Yes, this is not being hidden.
This is very, very public.
This is not being hidden.
And and he hasn't acceptedanything no one.
So yeah, she can, she can sitback and keep her mouth shut.
The Democratic Party doesn'teven care about her anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
She's just running her mouth because she's a crabby
old lady, and that's reallyabout the extent of that.
So, yeah, yeah, that sums it upperfectly.
I love this next topic.
You're excited to talk aboutthis Very interesting.
I'm excited for you in a way,because I know you said you're a
non-practicing Catholic, butthat's your origin story, right,
so it's pretty cool that thenew Pope is from your neck of

(23:27):
the woods there.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, so yes, he is from the greater Chicagoland
area.
Yeah, so yes, he is from thegreater Chicagoland area.
You know, it was a hugesurprise An American pope.
In general, there aregenerations of people older than
me who have said they neverexpected to see an American pope
, and if you think in terms ofpolitical influence, there's a
reason why.
You know, the view from withinthe Catholic Church has always

(23:51):
been America has too much poweras it is globally.
There's no reason to give thema pope as well.
So there was never anexpectation for an American pope
.
You know, Leo, as he's chosento be named, his papal name is
from the Chicago area.
I was blown away that day.
You know there has been 8million Chicago area memes that

(24:15):
probably most of America hasseen bits and pieces of, but
we've been knee deep in it.
Oh yeah, you know he's.
He's already known as the Pope.
Um, I love it.
Yeah, there's been cracks andjokes about deep dish pizza for
communion.
There's been, you know,baptizing kids in aju from beef
sandwiches.
You know putting ketchup on hotdogs is now a mortal sin and
like there's tons of Chicagocracks about him, you know

(24:39):
initial reports where he was aCubs fan, including Wrigley
Field put up on their marquee,which is, you know, historic,
you know Cubs fan turns out.
Maybe that's in dispute, maybehe's a Sox fan, which is a big
deal here in the city.
But you know, the bigger pointis is that he is an American
Pope and he is by reputation, sohe's from the Augustine right,

(25:04):
which means he is all aboutcharity, he is all about
selfless service and that's whathis order is, you know, kind of
founded on.
So he, I think the expectationsare going to be, I think he's a
little more traditional thanhis predecessor.
There's a lot of mixedmessaging out there that people
have pulled up on where hestands on, you know, homosexuals

(25:27):
on.
Where he stands on abortion,where he stands on you know some
of those things that have been,you know, kind of in
controversy in the moreprogressive last few years under
the previous Pope.
But yeah, an American Pope andhe's a Chicago guy and he speaks
four languages fluently andlike it's a.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think it's even more than that.
Did I say that he said somebodysaid seven languages.
Is that, is that possible?
Maybe it is, oh, totallypossible.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean you know, Latin's, one, which is a dead
language.
But yeah, when he addressed StAugustine's Square, they, you
know, he spoke in fluent Italianand then Spanish.
He was just a car, he was acardinal in Peru, so he's fluent
in Spanish.
I know that he obviously speaksEnglish.
He, I think, french, I heard, Idon't know what else, but I
five, five languages.
It may be seven, it's entirelypossible.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Um, you know, I'll tell you, I actually think that
the uh conflicting stories ifyou'll, if you'll, have it, um,
are actually I think it's kindof a good thing.
You know, the, the left issaying the progressives are, are
like yay, we've got a, we'vegot another woke pope.
And the right is saying, no,actually you don't, because his
views on abortion and LGBTQmarriage, blah, blah, blah, all

(26:38):
these things are showingconservative.
The fact that he chose the nameLeo, which is the last one that
was a Leo, was conservative, sothat he chose that.
They're saying that's a signyou know all of these things, so
that he chose that.
They're saying that's a signyou know all of these things.
The vibe I'm actually gettingfrom all of it, if you kind of
put it all together, is that heactually sits somewhere in the
middle and I think that's a goodthing, I think that's a healthy

(27:00):
thing and I think that's a goodthing for the church.
To me.
That hopefully says he is goingto do what he should be doing
which is going by the Bible, andthat's it Not culture, not
politicians.
Doing which is going by theBible, and that's it Not culture
, not politicians, not feelings,nothing but the Bible.
And I think, if he does that, Ithink he has the potential to
be a very, very beloved Pope bymany, and his brother was on

(27:24):
Piers Morgan and he had this tosay so we can watch this for a
moment.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Well, as you know, he was very disappointed because
he thinks that your brother isgoing to turn out to be a very
liberal pope, following on fromFrancis, who he had obviously a
great relationship with.
I mean, what's your response tothat?
Do you think he's going to be avery liberal pope?

Speaker 6 (27:42):
No, I do not.
I don't think he's going toroll back the changes that
Francis made.
I think he's going to.
Here we are.
Let's continue down this path.
Now I don't see my brother.
When we were growing up hewasn't like super political.
He's not left, he's not right.
He looks at the whole scene,takes information from both

(28:05):
sides and somehow finds a way togo down the middle and not
ruffle too many feathers.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
So I mean, I think you know he's got by the way the
backstory on that moment, atthe very beginning he was
referencing somebody that wassaying something.
He was talking about SteveBannon.
Apparently, the Pope's brotherand Steve Bannon were, I think,
in the Navy together, like onthe same ship and everything I
think.
So that's the reference pointthere.
But you know, if what he saidis accurate, I actually feel

(28:33):
like that's a really good thingand I'm definitely curious
because I know this one is.
This is one of those ones you'regoing to hear a lot about in
the comment section, right,people have a lot of opinions
about it Anytime I've postedeven the littlest thing about it
.
It's been I wouldn't go so faras to say it's been explosive in
there, but it's definitely beena lot of mixed feelings and
opinions.
You know, again, I'm Christian,not Catholic, so I don't, you

(28:54):
know, really go by what theCatholic church says and does,
obviously.
But you know, I'm hopeful forit and listen, I don't really
care as long as you're bringingpeople to Christ.
It's a beautiful thing as faras I'm concerned.
So it'll be really interestingto watch.
I'm hopeful.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm concerned.
So it'll be.
It'll be really interesting towatch.
I'm hopeful.
Yeah, it'll be.
You know he's, he's.
He turned 70 in September, sohe is young.
As far as the Pope goes, I mean, we have the potential for a 10
, 12, 15 year papacy, you know,which would be interesting.
So that's one thing you knowyou can.
You can judge things by how themedia reacts.

(29:32):
There was an immediate backlash.
And you want to talk aboutwhiplash?
So everybody's.
One of the top five favoriteidiots on TV, Sonny Hostin, from
the View, lashed out initiallythat he was too conservative and
he was this and that, and youknow she wasn't in favor of him.
And then, the very next day,some information came out that

(29:54):
his mother is of Hispanic Latinheritage and they trace back
that he is his mother's familyor family on his mother's side
is Haitian, and that he actuallyhas some African roots.
Wow, and then, all of a sudden,she was very happy.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Now he's okay.
Now he's all right.
Yeah, roots and then all of asudden.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
She was very happy.
So you talk about the flashfrom that.
Yeah, I mean people are goingto make what they want out of it
.
It'll be interesting.
But probably the most the thingthat struck me the most in all
of the coverage and I waswatching when the smoke rose.
I was watching when they namedhim, but you know one of the
commentators that I was watchinghe quoted Pope John Paul II,

(30:38):
who was, you know, many peoplewill say he was the last great
Pope, but he said that Pope JohnPaul was quoted as saying that
being the Pope changes you.
The man you are when you takeover is certainly not the man
you are at the end.
So there's going to be room andexpected change and growth in

(30:58):
the Pope over his term.
So what we have now is notprobably what we're going to
have 10 years from now.
So he's a human being.
He's the most holy, the mostregarded at this point in the
Catholic faith, but he is stilla man, no matter what, and we'll
see how it turns out.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, he's got a heck of a task ahead of him because
I think he's coming to a verydivided church, very, very
divided, and he's got a heck ofa task ahead of him to try and
unite those factions and balancethose lines.
And balance those lines.
You know, his brother said inthat interview that he doesn't
believe that his brother isgoing to walk back.
Anything that the previous Popehas done, has said, which makes

(31:41):
sense in that, you know,they're trying to probably keep
some uniformity there so thatthey don't have mixed messages,
you know.
So maybe whatever he's going todo is more of a gradual, subtle
shift.
I don't know, like you said,we're going to have to wait and
see and watch and see where itgoes.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, 4 billion Catholics.
They'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
They will definitely let everyone know for sure.
I would only say come on, guys,give them a chance, give them a
hot minute, you know, and let's, let's, let's, put our big boy
and big girl pants on and beless quick to react.
You know, take in the thetotality of everything.
You know, because I've alreadyseen, I've seen the things you
know, because the first thing,obviously, every time you talk

(32:21):
about the Catholic Church, oneof the first thing that always
comes up is the abuse within thechurch and all this.
So it's always like the go to.
So there were some rumors aboutthat not about him specifically,
guys, just about you know,potentially having looked the
other way for something thatwent on.
I do not know, I don't havethat full story, I just know
that that was a one of thethings that was thrown out there

(32:42):
amongst all of the rest ofeverything, and that's what
happens, right, I mean, we knowthis.
You know as well, if not better, than anyone else, the minute
you have, whatever the story is,whatever the new story is you
get, you know we all getinundated super fast with
lightning fast reports andsources, and we know very well
that so much of what gets thrownon the internet is just simply

(33:05):
not true.
So you got to wade through it.
I'm not saying these things arenot true.
I'm saying you really need todo your research and your own
investigative.
You know, just like you have tobe an advocate for yourself
when you go to the doctor, yougot to be an advocate for
yourself when you're reading andwatching anything, and now more
so than ever.
So that's my request to everyoneTake a pause, look it up.

(33:25):
Multiple sources.
Find out the truth.
It's in there somewhere, guys,and God bless them.
Yeah, absolutely.
What do we got next?
We got to keep moving.
Look at me being, look at mecracking the whip.
What?
Well, let's talk about this, oh, my goodness.
So I do have a video for this.
Now let's see.
And I thought I put it in here,but, yeah, so did you.

(33:46):
You saw this.
Obviously you watch the.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, so there were two, actually two, incidences.
There was the forced entry bythe members of Congress right,
and then the following day therewas a religious organization
from New Jersey to allow thevehicles in or out.
This group was going to rushthe gates and they were going to
be inside the prison beforethey could do anything, so, like
they had to, there was anambulance that got turned away,
but they don't know of anybodyeven calling an ambulance, so
that was a bit of a setup.
There are some other things,but really what we're focusing
on is this demand by Congresspeople for entry into the ICE
facility.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Did you find your video?
Yeah, I have it.
It's the second one, so not as,not as good as the first one,
but there it is oh, my God.

(35:13):
Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, they're so obnoxious,they're so obnoxious.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Those were people trying to go home.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, let them go home, get out of the way.
Oh listen, we all need to prayfor elsa right now that I never
am the person that gets caughtin one of these um, you know,
road blocking protests.
Pray hard, I I am not that one.
I am from the south side of thekingdom and I cannot be

(35:51):
responsible for what I do,because that's that makes my
blood boil.
Like you want to protest?
You want to march around withyour signs on the sidewalk?
I am fully supportive of yourright to do that, 100%.
Do not get in my way.
That's it.
So yeah, and I and I know I'mspeaking for a lot of people
when I say that, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
The bigger issue, though, is that is, the members
of Congress that the day beforethis, yes, looked at that prison
staff and said you know youwill let us in.
You know you, we have.
We have a right to be.
No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
No, you absolutely do not.
The absolute audacity andarrogance to, first of all, to
behave like that.
Now you're putting you know lawenforcement, you're putting
them at risk and I have aproblem with that, immediately,
I have a major problem with that.
You get the hell out of the way, do not get yourself in the way

(36:43):
of.
You know what they're trying todo and put them in danger.
Yeah, who was it?
The Newark mayor?
What's his name?
Roz Baraka.
Is that it Arrested?
Arrested for, you know, andthey're proud of this, they
think this is, like you know, abadge of courage and a badge of
honor to get arrested doingthese things.
And I think anyone who sitsthere and deludes themselves

(37:04):
into thinking that this is anoble, you know, righteous thing
that they're doing, thatthey're, you know, just being
great people, humanitarians,thing that they're doing, that
they're, you know, just beinggreat people, humanitarians,
they're not.
It's theater, it is politicaltheater, it is absolute
showboating.
And look at me, crap, theydon't care.

(37:26):
This is about them and gettingthemselves in front of you know,
it's amazing how there's alwayscamera crews and all of these
things right there with them.
You know the minute thesethings are going on.
Why?
Because they bring them, theycall them, they do all of the
things.
It's theater, nothing more.
I can't stand them, clay.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
So I have a bit of an alternate solution.
Okay, when, yeah, when I was inIraq in 2008 and nine they were
going through the Iraqi prisonsand we had a red, had a red,
amber or a green, amber, redlist.
Right, you know, guys who werein the prisons who were listed
as green were you know pettycrime, kind of things.

(38:00):
You know the, the Amber oneswere more violent criminals and
then the red ones were, you know, domestic terror, blah, blah,
blah.
So they were.
Every month we would do arelease of sorts of each of
these.
You know we would work throughthe green and you know the
Iraqis would do it.
We would just kind of overseeit.
We'd work through the greenlist and then we got rid of all
the green, we, we moved to theAmber and so on and so forth.

(38:22):
Every one of those prisonersgot released to a family member.
A family member had to sign forthem, and so the name was taken
not only of the prisoner but ofthe family member, and if that
prisoner got arrested again as areturn you know, repeat
offender the family member washeld accountable as well.
That family member went to jail.

(38:42):
So here's what I propose.
All of these politicians right,all of these left-leaning or
straight-up left, blue-side youknow Democrat politicians, go
sign for a prisoner, takeresponsibility for them.
You don't.
They don't even have to live inyour house, right?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, you're just.
You know, it's like if youco-signed a car loan, right?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Exactly right.
That's exactly what you'redoing is you're co-signing that
they are going to be good humanbeings forever, and and watch
how many of them won't do it.
Absolutely how many of themwon't do it, Absolutely,
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
These are same people , you know well.
Yeah, yes, I think that is thebest idea, and I'm not just
saying that because you're mybuddy, my pal.
That is like the best idea thatI have heard in a long time.
And they're right there.
Folks is the difference betweenthe left and the right the
right is always offeringsolutions.
We're not just talking aboutproblems.
We've got solutions for you.
This needs to go.
The difference between the leftand the right the right is
always offering solutions right,we're not just talking about

(39:34):
problems.
We've got solutions for you.
This needs to go right to theWhite House desk, because I
think that is the absolute mostbrilliant thing that I've heard
in a while.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Again.
You don't have to house them,you don't have to feed them.
Now, it's in your best interestto take care of them, make sure
they have a place to stay, thatthey have a job, that they're
contributing to society, becausetherefore they're less likely
to be a criminal, but you takeresponsibility for them.
Yeah, forever, yep, yeah,forever.
Nobody's signing up for that.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, no, you won't get a single one, you'll get
somebody.
You'll maybe get one LooneyTune, you know who does it,
who's got to prove her point?
Notice, I said her.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, high probability.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Listen, I love my gender, I love us, I do.
But yeah, that's all I'll sayon that.
But yeah, um, I, I would loveto see that happen.
That would be, it would changeeverything in in a second, all
of a sudden.
You know, we'd hear guys, wewould hear crickets, right, the
beautiful sound of crickets inthe night sky, oh, that would be

(40:41):
so good.
But you listen, speaking of, um, well, something along the same
lines, right, my, oh my.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, you know the interesting part of all this.
You and I have talked aboutthis, your husband's police
officer, we've been talkingabout MS-13 and TDA for months
and obviously, again, we evenjust talked about it in the last
segment.
Um, what people?
What is now?
What is arising out of this iscompetitive, not just MS-13

(41:12):
versus TDA.
Right, you've got.
Both of those criminalorganizations are fracturing,
right, and, and you know,multiplying.
So now you've got, and therethere's actually a group being
labeled as the anti-TDA.
Now, on the surface they mustbe a bunch of great Nicaraguans
or Venezuelans.
No, they're not what.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
They're not upstanding citizens.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
What?
The only way you break awayfrom an organization like that
is to be crazier than theorganization as it stands.
So they are an ultra-violentright ultra-violent faction,
breakaway faction of TDA.
So you've got that.
And when you can't fight overturf every day and for those of
us that are old enough toremember Crips and Bloods in the

(41:57):
80s, LA, like that was daily TVcoverage, right, there were
kids dying in South Central bythe hour.
I mean it was crazy how badthat was.
And that's what we're startingto get.
So you've got turf wars that areemerging from this, between
MS-13 and TDA and by thesplinter factions.
And when they can't fight thoseturf wars, then they go to

(42:20):
other places.
They're branching out intorural America, now, right, and
taking up which, if you get intothe rural Midwest, like there's
going to be some fighting back.
But that's what they're doing.
Right, the city's crowded.
You've got another competition.
So now they're spanning out andand these are when people have
been defending theseorganizations like, oh well,

(42:42):
there, there's not that many ofthem, oh, it's not that big, oh,
it's only a few hundred, oronly it's only a few thousand,
spread across the whole UnitedStates.
This is what you get.
You get.
Expanded is what you get.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, absolutely.
I.
You know, as I was researching.
You know, so what I do when Iresearch each topic and I'm sure
you do the same thing I want,obviously, a fully rounded view
of what everybody's saying.
So I'm not just looking atright-leaning news sources, I'm
looking at the left too, one ofthem, being NPR, was one of the
ones that I looked at to seewhat they were saying about this

(43:14):
.
And you know exactly what youjust said, clay like oh, they're
making such a big deal of this.
It's really not that big of adeal, it's.
There's not so many of them,you know.

(43:36):
Again tried to downplay it.
Well, it was just.
You know, it was just oneapartment building that they
took over.
It's not that big of a deal.
And he was like, excuse me,hold on.
Like, yes, it is.
These are American citizensbeing terrified, threatened,
harmed, killed because theirapartment building is being
taken over by illegal alien gangmembers.

(44:00):
And you don't think that's aproblem because it's just a
small amount of Americans Likeyou.
People are out of your skullsto think that there is even a
fraction of a percent that makesthis okay.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
So yeah, and, oh, by the way, like us, pre-existing
gangs, crips and bloods andlatin kings, and and they
haven't gone away, no, and nowyou've got even more.
So they're either beingco-opted by MS-13, tda, or
you've got turf war right.

(44:36):
So again, increase in violence,not just against people but
against each other, which againyou get.
A lot of innocent people getcaught in the middle, and so you
could say it's only a thousand,but if it's a thousand and
they're fighting for turf in losangeles or chicago or new york
or miami or wherever else, yeah,you're, there's bloodshed, like
that's the way it's going to be.
So, accepting any of it, um, isinsane.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
And you know, here's the the irony of it, the
disgusting irony of it.
You know why.
They don't care meaning.
They mean meaning the left.
And no, guys, I will not stopharping on who's doing what here
and who's saying what, who'ssupporting what.
So, yeah, you're going to hearthe left, the left, the left
from me on a regular basis forhopefully not forever, but long

(45:20):
enough.
I guess you know it's notaffecting them because they're
deep down.
Their deep down attitude is ah,it's just cities, it's just
those people.
We don't care about them.
You know, wait until it gets inyour little suburb.
You know, like you said, you're, now they're going rural, now
they're expanding out, they'regoing to be in your neighborhood
.
You could you okay with that?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, Well, and you know, slipping into the next
topic, this is what happens whenyou ignore or you know it can
contribute to a problem.
So governor newsom incalifornia has decided that all
statewide, that all the homelessencampments need to go every

(46:00):
city and you remember he used tobe san francisco mayor, la, san
francisco, san diego all ofthem, they all need to get torn
down.
Right, they, all these peopleneed to be arrested.
If they refuse shelter, threetimes they need to go to jail.
And he's harping on thesemayors because he has given them
funding for programs that aresupposed to eliminate or reduce

(46:24):
homelessness and they're notspending it the way that it's
supposed to be be, or it'sineffective.
So the solution is tear themall down.
But you were talking about doingresearch.
I did not realize this Researchin this topic.
California's homeless number isabout 187,000 people, which is

(46:45):
one quarter of the entire unitedstates homeless population.
Wow, right, and listen.
My best friend picked up lock,stock and barrel, moved out of
la for this exact reason.
They were on his doorstep,literally right outside his
neighborhood.
Um, but you, if you drivethrough southern california, um,
the highway underpasses thehighway overpasses the medians.

(47:07):
You'll look in large mediansand highways, there's camps
everywhere and it's just.
It's not safe.
But Gavin Newsom, whocontributed to this problem, has
now declared war on thisproblem.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, Well, look he's , you know he's cleaning it up
all by himself too, and his andhis designer t-shirt.
That probably costs I don'tknow what would you guess.
This t-shirt cost 80, 100 maybe, yeah you know he's taking this
seriously, guys.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Why is he taking it seriously?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
yeah, why, guys?
Why do you think he's taking itseriously?
We all know why.
Because, yeah, exactly, um,it's just so cliche, is it's so
typical, so expected, like, canyou just not do the most
predictable things ever?
You know, and this guy and Ilooked up, you know, as part of

(47:57):
this research, I got curious andkind of expanded it even more
in my search and I actuallypopped it into chat GPT and my
question to it was saying Ithink I have it over here.
My question was has Gavin Newsomactually done any like anything
good for his state?
Like, has he accomplishedanything whatsoever that is

(48:19):
positive and good for thebetterment of the state and the?
You know, the short answer tothat is no, nope, nope, not a
single thing.
And it's wild and we'll have togo through it.
We'll have to take this as hehis profile gets even higher and
higher as we get closer, we'regoing to do I think we're going
to have to do like a whole GavinNewsom episode, so we can just

(48:40):
go down the complete list ofeverything that this guy has
done and tried to do and failedat.
So I mean he is an extremefailure at what, what he claims
to want to do for the state.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
And the banner at the bottom is is he?
This is a blame shift, right?
He's a contributor to this, hasbeen for a long time, and now
he's pinning it on all themayors, right, and he's saying
this is your fault.
You've been given the funds,you're not the programs.
You know you're not endorsingthem, you're not funding them,
you're not running them, you'renot whatever.
It's being ineffective.
We've got more homeless people.
So, therefore, I am encouragingall of you um, before I have to

(49:20):
turn it into law, I'mencouraging all of you to get
rid of all the homeless camps.
Right, and you know and I'msorry, no, it's, it's just him
showboating, that's all it is Ahundred percent.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
What a surprise, right you know, but it begs like
the biggest question of all ofso, what are you going to do
with them?
Would you say?
One hundred and eighty seventhousand homeless people?
Where are they going to go Like?
How are you going to fix this?
And again, they are whollyunprepared for this.
The number of shelters thatthey have, with the capacity
that they have, they arecompletely unable to house the

(49:53):
number of people that they aredisplacing.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I have an idea.
You know all those.
You know all those sheltersthat are full of illegal aliens.
Oh what If you deport them?
You can probably get 187,000people into those shelters and
therefore take care of yourhomeless problem.
Just saying.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Well, what a novel idea, Just saying yeah, clay,
you're full of, like, thebrilliant ideas today.
Not that you never, havebrilliant ideas Simple guy.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
It's a simple answer.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I love that, like simple, practical solutions that
make sense, which you know whatthat means, though Ain't going
to happen.
Ain't going to happen.
Too logical, too practical, tooeasy Right.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, you know what's not been in the news.
What has not been the reducedthe benefits of the reduced
tariffs with China.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Anyhow, they don't want to talk about that.
It's weird that they don't wantto talk about that, right.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Talking about it for weeks and weeks and weeks and
weeks and weeks.
And then when the Chinese went,yeah, this ain't going to work,
and we went all right, that wasthe media.
Yeah, so we went from uscharging them 145 percent
charging them 30 percent.
They were charging us 125percent, reduced down to 10
percent.
Right, yeah, this is the wholeidea behind the tariffs, folks,

(51:18):
to reduce.
So the US wasn't getting takenadvantage of, right?
But here's the, here's thecurveball that I'm going to
throw everybody Right.
Everybody again thinks this ispurely economic.
I'm going to throw everybodyright.
Everybody again thinks this ispurely economic.
I would tell you, I'm willingto bet that president Trump is
driving a wedge between Chinaand Russia.
There is something going onthere that he is because they're

(51:40):
they are allied.
There's no question about it,and that is the that alliance is
.
The greatest threat to theUnited States is the two of them
, and he is, through this,driving a wedge between the two
of them.
It will turn into a hey, you'reeither with Putin or you're
with us.
Take your pick.
You've seen the economic impact, so you figure out what you're
going to do.

(52:00):
But I can promise you this thisis leading down that road.
President Trump is no idiot,right?
No, it's not all about thedollar.
This is about global alliancethat is anchored in economics.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think president Trump is a
master chess player.
Um, I think he already has thegame all laid out in one before
other people have even madetheir moves.
You know what I mean, and Ithink that is his biggest
strength that he can see.

(52:34):
So much, don't forget and wetalked about this before
President Trump was talkingabout these things, more than a
decade ago this has been on hismind, part of his, you know I
don't know if plan is the rightword but certainly part of his
thought process andunderstanding, and it probably
has driven him crazy for allthese years to essentially have

(52:57):
the solution to the problem andnot be able to make it happen,
to actually move all of thosechess pieces into the places
that they need to go, that he'salready planned this out forever
in a day.
Um, so, yeah, and I and I'm soglad that I happen to be one of
the many, many, many people who,when this all started, uh, just

(53:20):
sat back and, and you know, put, put my hands behind my head
and kicked my feet up and saidI'm just gonna watch play out,
let's see where this goes.
And, um, you know, no, none ofthis is a surprise to me and I
don't even understand a quarterof it, but none of it's a
surprise to me.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
But we said it two weeks ago.
It's patience, right, he knowswhat he's doing.
You've got to let it play out.
You know, at a hundred days inoffice, it was too early to tell
anything.
But, of course, like everythingelse, we made this agreement.
Everybody freaked out, right,and he's getting, you know, he's
getting criticized for it.
Everybody said, oh well,businesses made some economic

(53:54):
decisions, some purchasingdecisions, some shipping
decisions based on the cost ofthe tariffs, and now they've got
to go back and they've got toredo.
You know, and they did this andthey did that, and blah, blah,
blah, blah.
He did this, he capitulated,this was never the plan.
And he caved and I bought no,he knew exactly what he was
doing, from jump street, right,and, and, and it worked out

(54:15):
exactly the way you wanted.
We're tariffing them more thanthey're tariffing us.
And what?
How long did it last, really?
Yeah, like a hot minute.
Three weeks, six weeks, max,right, this is not, you know,
what everybody thought it wasgoing to be, but it was exactly
what president Trump thought itwas going to be.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yeah, he knows, he knows the scrutinies he's under,
he knows, he knows that hecan't misstep, basically, you
know.
So he is thinking outeverything so far ahead.
Um, I think he is surrounded bysome of the greatest minds on
the planet and, you know,because it's not just him alone,
obviously, I mean obviously,he's assembled one hell of a

(54:55):
team around him, this go around.
He is not a man who doesn'tlearn from his mistakes.
You know that first term, hetrusted the wrong people.
That is not the case now.
And, yeah, you know, now wejust got to work on those, those
Republicans that are not doingwhat we need them to do, what we
we want them to do.
Right, that's a whole otherepisode.

(55:16):
We don't have time for that.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
But I will tell you that the difference between
President Trump and everypresident since President Reagan
and this is where he is verymuch like president Reagan is
that he sees it Like you said.
He sees all, the, all the moveson the chessboard, um, he, he
knows how it's going to play out, but he knows that it's going
to take courage, um, to makecertain moves.
He knows that it's going totake, you know, some, some, um,

(55:43):
really some resolve to withstandthe pressure from everybody
around him, including the media,right, and he, and he does.
Every other president betweenReagan and now, including
President Trump in his firstterm, to be honest, you know,
they have all been reluctant tomake bold moves.
You know, and, and I think inthis term, because he knows that

(56:05):
he's, he's foreign out and Iknow he knows that he's got
stuff he wants to get done.
Yeah, and this, you know, and Ithink he is really kind of even
taking the reins off himselfand he's making the bold moves
and they're they're working outexactly the way that he knows
that they will.
So, yeah, um, yeah, and this isjust more evidence.
So good on him, well done, yesabsolutely he's.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Uh, he has been hard charging from the get-go from
day one, since before day one,but officially from day one it's
been hard charging the wholetime.
And you know, I think we aregoing to see the benefits of
this for a long time to come andI hope that it's only going to
keep getting better and better.
And, yeah, I'm definitelyenjoying the ride, for sure.

(56:45):
Oh, I don't want to brag, butwe just did.
Was it seven or eight, eight?
We just did eight topics in anhour and, yeah, I'm feeling
pretty pleased with ourselveshere.
Yeah, and you know, and thecrazy thing is like that's eight
topics out of like a hundred wecould have gone with.

(57:06):
Right, there's so many thingsgoing on right now.
There's the's, the.
I don't even know, to be honestwith you guys, uh, and with you
clay, I don't even know if Iwant to cover this um, the.
The diddy trial is going onright now and, um, it's so gross
I think they're only in day twoum, it's so vile already that,
to be honest with you, I don'tknow if we're going to do
anything more than do like avery brief recap of anything

(57:32):
that's relevant.
But it's really gross.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yeah, when he gets convicted we'll talk about it.
Other than that, I don't reallycare.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
I like that.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's sodisturbing so yeah, so forget
about that noise.
Any news, anything exciting?
You want to share?
Anything going on at all.
A little public speakingengagement coming the any news
anything exciting, you want toshare?
Anything going on at all.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
No, no, I've got a little public speaking
engagement coming the end ofthis week.
I'm going to talk to UAW, whichis kind of cool, but I think
probably the coolest thingthat's going on this week is
Pete Rose and Shoeless JoeJackson had their lifetime bans
lifted, which is a higherprobability that they should
deservingly get into the Hall ofFame.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah, that was nice to hear.
I did see that.
I was like, oh wow, I didn'teven know that was going on
behind the scenes there, ormaybe not behind the scenes, but
yeah, very cool, that's awesome.
Yeah, wonderful stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
People will be against that, but I'm a Pete
Rose fan.
I think he deserves it.
Unfortunately, he's passed awayand he's not going to get to
enjoy it, but he is what he is.
So, other than that, how aboutyou?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Oh, let's see what's going on.
Oh yeah, humble brag for amoment there.
My newly released book TruthBombs and Grace Grenades debuted
at number one in two categorieson the Amazon bestseller.
So thank you guys fordownloading and buying the book.
I so appreciate it so much.
Downloading and buying the book.

(58:48):
I, I so appreciate it so much.
It is such it's so humbling,clay to, to know that something
you put out in the world thatyou feel so passionately about,
other people feel passionateabout it too.
And then that word which is notmy word, it's, it's, you know,
obviously very Christiancentered, that it may
potentially help other peopleand, yeah, that that is such a

(59:09):
joy maker.
So I'm so, so grateful for that.
So, thank you guys so much.
But that was my big news.
Otherwise, everything is niceand peaceful right now.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Excellent.
Well, as a as an as a fellowauthor, congratulations.
I know that it's not an easything to do and, uh, it's quite
a quite a benchmark that willstick with your work through its
lifespan, so that's prettyawesome.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Yay, all right, my friend, you can take them out
here.
That sounded very mafia.
I took that back, didn't it,when I said that don't take them
out?

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Timestamp.
We recorded this from 4.30 to5.30 Eastern time on Wednesday.
Sorry, it's a late timestamp,we're out of practice, but as
always for me, folks keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Take care guys.
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