Chaos Chronicles: Democrats Flee, Jesus Casting Controversy, and Political Undercurrents

Today we dive into the political landscape's most heated battles and their implications for America's future. We examine the strategic moves, media manipulation, and cultural flashpoints shaping our national conversation.

• Texas Democrats flee state to block GOP redistricting, facing arrest warrants and $500 daily fines
• AP coverage shows clear bias in reporting on the redistricting conflict
• Bill and Hillary Clinton subpoenaed to testify before House Oversight Committee regarding Epstein files
• Nancy Mace and Marsha Blackburn leaving Congress to run for governor in their respective states
• DOJ releases list of 35 sanctuary jurisdictions, threatening litigation against laws obstructing federal immigration enforcement
• Rising socialism in American politics poses serious threats to both the Democratic party and America
• Controversial casting in Jesus Christ Superstar production deliberately targets Christianity
• Howard Stern canceled by SiriusXM after viewership plummeted following anti-Trump stance
• Programmer stands up to protect girlfriend during DC carjacking attempt, displaying true courage

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
it's the Elsa Kirk show, with Clay Novak serving up
trending news and conservativeviews brought to you by the Elsa
Kirk collection and refugemedical, and now it's time for
the show oh hey, how are youClay?

(00:26):
I'm good.
We got another jam-packed showtoday and we're not even going
to get to.
Like it's crazy, folks.
I mean it's Wednesday at 4.30Eastern and there's developing
stories that we can't even getto.
I mean, today is the day.
Just up front folks.
There's shooting today at FortStewart, georgia, five soldiers

(00:46):
injured.
That's not even developedenough for us to comment on.
So as much as is going on, wecan't even get to everything.
But I'm good, I'm busy.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
How are you doing?
I have actually not looked atsocial media or media in general
, other than to prep for theshow, our very specific topic.
So I'm in the bubble, I amunaware of everything going on
and, you know, my studio is abasement studio, so I am

(01:15):
literally the basement dwellerwho has no idea what's happening
in the world.
It's kind of nice, I kind oflike it and it's cozy, warm in
here.
You know I don't know about you.
Clay, like it and it's cozy,warm in here.
You know I don't know about you, clay, you're probably a
typical guy and you keep yourthermostat set at your AC at
like 60 degrees or somethinginsane, and my husband is that
guy.
He turns it on like I don'tknow March 1st and it doesn't

(01:36):
turn off until like November28th or something insane.
So I'm always freezing, so Ilike my little space down here.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I am basement as well , which is why always freezing.
So I like my little space downhere.
I am basement as well, which iswhy always the quarters zip.
I always have something on, butyeah, normally I'm cold air.
I'm perfectly fine, totallyhappy with cold air, but the
basement is a little chilly.
Regardless, we do have a lot totalk about today, so let's get
rolling right.
After this Redistricting drama,media spin and the usual double
standards, the AP throws shade,texas draws draws lines and

(02:07):
we're breaking down who'sactually playing fair or?
pretending to.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
So get your popcorn ready and let's go do not be
mocking me for that englishvoice.
I knew you would.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I knew you were gonna get me on that one I was just
gonna say, like, who did youimport for this?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So, listen, I'm going to confess what I did here.
So first of all, I did Let mebackpedal slightly, I'll make it
quick.
I answered some questions.
I made a video where I answeredsome questions that people have
been asking in the commentssection on a video that I told
them go ahead, ask me questions,I'll answer them.
And instead of me just readingoff the questions and then

(02:46):
answering them, I'm like, oh,what if I have my chat, my chat
GPT guy, because mine's a guy,read them like ask me the
questions.
So that's what I did.
But I had to confess which I'mdoing again here that I not only
gave my chat a name, his nameis Oliver.
Doing again here that I notonly gave my chat a name, his

(03:08):
name is Oliver, I also trainedhim to speak in the manner of
Cary Grant.
Judge me all you want, guys, Idon't care, I don't care.
Obviously I care, because I'mlike defending myself.
So, yes, so I still had thatvoice programmed in and I was
like, oh, I'll just use it,cause I literally did it five
minutes before we started.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
So yeah, listen that, uh, you know I, I'm the guy I
would go.
You know I'm, I would haveSamuel L Jackson or something
like that.
But but, uh, cary Grant's agood call.
I like it.
It's very distinguished.
It's uh, you know he is.
Uh, he's that guy I always love.
It's one of my favorite memeswhere you've got Cary Grant
dressed in a suit and anovercoat and a hat right, and

(03:45):
then you've got like a modernkid in skinny jeans and some
other stuff and it goes.
Something wrong happenedbetween here and here and I
agree with that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Me too.
Me too, Bring back Cary Grant,elegance and class.
And oh, don't get me started.
We got too many topics and Icould talk about that one all
darn day.
So, yeah, we're talking aboutchanging gears here.
I can't, I can't even segue,we're just going right in this,
this, right here.
The Texas Democrats travel inprotest.
So over 60 Texas Democrat statelawmakers fled to Illinois, New

(04:17):
York and Massachusetts to denya quorum on a GOP redistricting
session that could netRepublicans up to five more US
House seats and Greg AbbottGovernor.
Greg Abbott issued in-statearrest warrants and is pursuing
removal of their seats.
So you know right off the batClay.
I want to ask you, is anythinggoing to happen to?

(04:39):
This?
Is just like some, you know,lots of noise and once again,
nothing happens, or what's goingto happen here?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
So I, and so there's you hit on a lot of them,
there's.
There's a couple of things inthere too.
So there's also five hundreddollar a day fines for each one
of those members.
For I don't know what theyexactly call it, but I think
it's something on you knowdelaying, you know impeding
government process or somethinglike that.
But with that no one can.
No one else can pay those finesbesides the actual elected

(05:09):
officials.
So otherwise it's the briberycharge.
So like if if say, you knowsome billionaire, philanthropist
or whatever says, well, I'mjust going to pay everybody's
fine, can't do that, every oneof those people who had their
fine paid by somebody else wouldbe taking a bribery charge.
So there's, and the person whovolunteers to pay the fine is
also criminally liable.

(05:29):
So there's that.
I would say that in most otherstates, in pretty much every
other state, I don't thinkanything will happen.
I will tell you that GovernorAbbott has repeated with the
exception of, maybe, florida,but Abbott has repeatedly backed
up the things that he has said.
He was one of the first peopleto start flying the illegal

(05:49):
immigrants to other states.
He's been adamant about thefloating barriers in the Rio
Grande River.
He's done a lot of stuff.
So I think he is one who willpotentially follow through with
this.
I think that this is the secondtime that something like this
has happened.
I would love to see, becauseGovernor Pritzker my home state

(06:12):
of Illinois, you know, I thinkis complicit in this.
I think that there should be.
I think Governor Abbott shouldissue a state warrant for
Governor Pritzker as a you know,as an accessory to this, if
that's possible I don't know ifit is or not, but if it is I
think he should which would keepGovernor Pritzker from ever
stepping foot in the state ofTexas ever again, which would be

(06:34):
just a great statement to makelike hey, we're not going to
tolerate this.
I think something will happen.
The bottom line is they have tocome back to Texas At some
point in time.
They can't stay away foreverwill happen.
The bottom line is they have tocome back to Texas At some
point in time.
They can't stay away forever.
I think that there's got to besome sort of enforcement.
That happens.
These lines are going to beredrawn, the quorum is going to

(06:54):
be reached, the governmentprocess is going to go through.
It's all going to happen.
It's just a matter of how longdo they delay this?
And really, what other votes orwhat other processes within the
state of Texas get impeded bythis absence?
And I think the voters Texas isTexas like that it's.
It's a that state's got apersonality like no other, and I
think that the voters are goingto hold them accountable

(07:16):
overall.
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, you know, I think you're right.
I agree completely.
Texas doesn't really messaround, so that'll be.
That'll be really interestingto watch and you know it's funny
.
As part of my show prep for this, I really just typed in and
clicked on the first articleabout it that came up, which was
from the AP, the AssociatedPress, into Boyle a little bit,

(07:40):
because I'm so keyed in and I'msure you are too now at this
point, I'm so keyed intolanguage choices, the words
chosen and what their intentionis with these words, and I'm
noticing words in this articleright away that are just low-key

(08:01):
, inflammatory, and it was kindof boiling my blood a little bit
and I want to kind of sharewith you that I'm trying to see
if I yeah, I did.
So some of the things thatthey're they were saying, like
some of the language thatthey're using in this article,
is things like no holds barredbattle and blew the lid off of
redistricting, and you know allof these things and the the bias

(08:24):
, and what I'm really getting atis the very clear and obvious
bias.
Ap has learned nothing fromtheir battles with Caroline
Levitt there, and all of thatstuff.
And you know these are the kindof things that are really
aggravating me and a lot ofpeople.
Honestly, it's the media, andyou probably could give me any
topic at this point that we talkabout and I can bring it right

(08:44):
back around to what's the media.
And you probably could give meany topic at this point that we
talk about and I can bring itright back around to what's the
media doing, what's their rolein all of this.
And you know, and of course,and it's not just the media,
it's the politicians, everybodythat's involved.
But the irony is is like, ifthis was the, if this was the
other way around, if this wasreversed and it was the
Republicans doing what theseDemocrats are doing, the, the
response from the media, which,as we know, fuels the response

(09:08):
of the people you know it wouldbe a very different story.
And you know, and my wholepoint here is that we need to be
so much more and more hyperaware of those things and of the
behavior of the media trying tobe inflammatory and make
something that is not whatthey're saying it is.

(09:28):
You know, think about it.
And that would be my onlyadvice Like, think about it that
way, like if we turned itaround, if you reverse this
whole story.
Flip the names, you know whatwould the reaction be from the
media and how would that affectyour reaction.
So that's the thing that kindof gets me, because now you know
in that same article they'retalking about, you know other
states following suit, but whenthey refer to that one, you know

(09:49):
, like California, a coupleother ones too.
When they refer to those states,it's very favorable, like, well
, this is, you know, this isjust in response to what they're
doing, what those people aredoing, and you know the reality
is this is something that hasbeen going on forever, is
something that has been going onforever.
You know this, or I shouldn'tsay, for this has been going for
a long time.
Democrats, republicans,different states, they all do
this.
This is a normal part of.

(10:10):
Is it good, bad, right or wrong?
I mean, I don't really know, itjust is.
So it's not new.
This isn't like some dirtytrick that Trump is pulling that
they've never seen before.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, illinois is one of those states and, in
fact, pritzker was on Colbertlast night and which is
hilarious because you've got,you know Pritzker, who is Chris
Christie, fat and a potential,you know they talked about him
as a governor and he's on afailed show with Colbert, who's
on his way out, and Colbert evencalled him out in the

(10:49):
districting lines within thestate of Illinois because they
are, you know, gerrymandered.
It's clear, right, there'slines drawn for specific reasons
in specific places.
California is another one, newYork is another one.
It happens, you're right, ithappens all the time in every
state, some states it's whereyou've got.
Texas is a great example.
You've got other statesMichigan, ohio, pennsylvania,

(11:09):
some of the battleground stateswhere it is.
This is debated every few yearsfor very specific reasons, and
that is to make those swingstates, those battleground
states, go one way or the other.
And so it's more of that Now Iwill tell you you talked about
the inflammatory language in theAP article there was an
incident here in Illinois todaywhere, because everybody knows

(11:30):
now where those Texaspoliticians are staying and they
are there was a bomb threat.
Call to their hotel.
Right, we show up bomb squaddogs, all that.
They clear 400 people out ofthe hotel.
Clearly, no device was found.
There was no real threat.
They clear 400 people out ofthe hotel.
Clearly, no device was found.
There was no real threat.
They all went back to theirrooms.
But that's being turned into,you know, hey, people did this

(11:51):
because the language being usedby the Texas Republic, the GOP
politicians, is inflaming.
You know, is inflammatory, israising the level of violence.
But on the flip side, you'vegot the, you've got the AP
article doing kind of the samething.
People do it all the time.
Now, the most inflammatory inthis entire thing is everybody's
new favorite idiot is JasmineCrockett.

(12:11):
So one of the five seats thateverybody expects to be flipped
is, in fact, I think her entiredistrict goes away in this whole
thing.
So she's really upset andeverybody's pointing the fingers
at President Trump as opposedto Governor Abbott, which is
weird, but but they are and soshe got into a little bit of
name calling with him.
I think she called him a pieceof you know piece of shit and

(12:33):
you know he responded with hisnormal she's not a very high IQ
person, kind of thing, butthat's you know.
That raises the level too and,like I said, the bottom line is
all of these people are going tohave to come back to Texas.
They're all going to have toassume their responsibility as
an elected official.
These redrawing districts aregoing to go through.

(12:56):
That's why they left was toprevent that from happening.
But they can't stay awayforever.
It's just a matter of doesanybody get arrested?
Is there any you know?
Is anybody removed from officeBecause that's on the table
right now?
Is there any you know?
Is anybody removed from officebecause that's on the table
right now?
That's being discussed as well.
So, yeah, want to see how thatpans out, as whatever plane
lands back in the state of texasand those people are you know,
and this plays out however it'sgoing to play out.
But but the reality is it's allgoing to get redrawn right,

(13:17):
yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
And you know, to be honest with you, I'm not even
saying if it's good, bad, right,wrong, whatever, for wrong
whatever, for them to bearrested for all that.
You know, our New York reactionis to say, good, arrest them.
But you know, the flip side ofthat is it's like, well, then
this, this sets the precedent.
Remember that, guys.
It sets the precedent.
So the next time around becauseI know, and I can't cite a, for
instance, but I feel prettyconfident in saying that

(13:41):
Republicans have done someversion of this as well, in
different states or differenttimes, you know, and maybe they
haven't, I don't really know,but I would suspect that they
would this is a tactic, you know, this is a political tactic
that gets used.
So I will go under theassumption that at some point,
somewhere, republicans have doneeither the same or similar,
attempted to delay this or stopit from happening.
So, you know, again, sets aprecedent.

(14:04):
So if you want this to happento them, then we have to be
prepared to have it happen to us.
You know, and again, I say it amillion times, clay, I'm so
tired of us and them and theyand we, and lines and aisles and
all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I just get exhausted, and so here we are, moving on
to the topic, and you couldclassify this as a hey, somebody
opened Pandora's box by goingafter President Trump, and now
all bets are off and there's noprotection for former presidents
anymore, whereas maybe even 10or 15 years ago this the

(14:40):
Clintons both former PresidentClinton and former Secretary of
State Clinton have beensubpoenaed over the Epstein
files and those among many, manyothers, and they're going to
have to testify in front of theHouse Oversight Committee.
Formal subpoenas have beensubmitted.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, october 9th for Hillary and October 14th for
Bill.
Now my question is can they,will they?
My feeling is yes and yes.
Just plead the fifth.
Yeah, like what happened.
Yeah, so is this going to be abig nothing burger, like what's
the?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
likelihood.
Yeah, so they are one of, ortwo of, let's see.
Who else do we got?
I got the list here.
So you've got FBI Director Comey, fbi Director Mueller, who, I
think, when they went to servehis subpoena, they put him in a
memory care facility.
So he has got Alzheimer's ordementia to such an extent where
he's going to be of zero valuewhatsoever.

(15:36):
Now, ok, people don't jump toconclusions.
He testified in front ofCongress in 2019.
I thought it was much morerecent than that and if you
remember that testimony, it wasvery much like Biden at the
debate, like he was bumblingright, and that was six years
ago and for those of you thathave ever been around, dementia

(15:57):
or Alzheimer's like that stuffprogresses pretty rapidly.
So six years ago to now, hecould be in a state where he is
of little value, Regardless.
So, james Comey, robert Mueller,attorney General Merrick
Garland, attorney GeneralLoretta Lynch, eric Holder,
alberto Gonzalez, department ofJustice Bill Barr, doj, jeff
Sessions all subpoenaed overthis, along with both of the

(16:19):
Clintons.
So you know, going back toplead the fifth, I think they
absolutely will.
Um, I think that the you know,the public image is, uh, is gone
anyway.
Like you know, and I know,every time somebody pleads the
fifth, whether they're doing itout of an abundance of caution,
whether doing it out ofexercising personal rights

(16:41):
immediately.
What do we all think they'reguilty?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Guilty, yeah, yeah, immediately.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Guilty?
Yeah, so are they going toplead the fifth?
Yes, you know, is it withintheir rights?
Of course it is.
So you know it's, and I thinkeverybody on that list is going
to likely testify and plead thefifth.
I don't think you're going toget a single bit of information
out of any one of those people.
Um, as terrible as that is, butI think that is exactly what's

(17:10):
going to happen.
And, and you know, is this awasted effort?
Yeah, um, I, I think it is.
Do I think that they are, youknow, um, exercising their
rights?
They absolutely are, and Ithink we're going to get nowhere
and nothing out of any of this.
I think it's a waste of time.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, it feels like you know.
It feels like a little bit oftheater, to be honest, and I get
it to an extent, like you know,going through the motions of
accountability, which is, youknow, of course, what we want,
but we also know that reality ofwhat they can do and what they
are most likely to do.
You know, the only thing thatcould shock anyone is if one of

(17:49):
them said, yeah, you know whatI'll talk, I'll tell you
everything I got.
They have nothing to gain fromit, so there's no reason for
them to.
You know, I really know howmuch they have to lose.
It's not a criminal that well,I don't know, is it?
I mean, can charges come fromthat, in that, by their
testimony?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I think that you know .
So you've got like to me.
I look at this and I say whyare they bringing those people
in specifically?
So that tells you that theprevious investigation,
investigations plural right beenincomplete, have been, you know
, modified, something's beenhidden, something's been left
out, something's been avoided.

(18:26):
And now you've got some directquestioning to fill in some of
those gaps or to confirm or denywhat's in some of these reports
.
You know you can get testimony,like, as an example, you know,
president Clinton probablyfilled out a whole bunch of
paperwork, affidavits and allkinds of other stuff.
Right Now they can sit him down,swear him in and even

(18:48):
potentially put him ontelevision and ask him very
direct questions and force himto give the answer we know he's
going to give, which is theFifth Amendment, you know.
Or they can say you statedpreviously X, y, z.
Is that true or is that nottrue?
Right, if he's already statedit and it's already in the
investigations and he doesn'tconfirm that that's exactly what

(19:11):
he wrote, now we have a problem.
Right now there's a problem,yeah, yeah.
And then I think that's whereit leads to potential criminal
activity, which is what you wereasking about is are there
charges potentially going tocome out of this?
Which is what you were askingabout is are there charges
potentially going to come out ofthis?
And I think that's the only waythat that happens is if
somebody you know they pull out.
You know, because this stuffwent on five, six, seven, eight
years ago.
Yeah, but I think you're goingto get a lot of Fifth Amendment

(19:34):
and a lot of I do not recall.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's so funny that you said that, because I was
just going to say that like it'sgoing to be a combination of
those two.
Right, like those too.
Right, like I do not recall,yeah, and I always love and I I
don't I mean this sarcasticallyI always love the way they do it
.
They sit back and they're likeI do not recall, and then they
sit back and, not to myrecollection, yeah, very good,
right, yeah, it's pretty good,um, so, yeah, so again, I, I
guess this is a lot of theater.
Do they have to stupid question?

(20:01):
I guess maybe, but do they like, can they just say I plead the
fifth on everything you're aboutto ask me, or do they literally
have to go through the processof every question that's to be
asked by whoever wants to askquestions and like we're going
to hear that like 500 times?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Probably yeah, I think they would have to have to
go through that whole thingno-transcript to be held at his

(20:54):
residence.
So the vice president, the WhiteHouse chief of staff, the
attorney general, kash Patel,and the deputy attorney general
so this is a strategy sessionamongst them, um, on, on these,
all of these, um, you know, uh,on all of this testimony, so
it's, it's going to be veryinteresting to see how the

(21:16):
attorney general gets in the mixof this Cause this is the house
oversight committee.
This is not the department ofjustice, um, it's not coming
from the white house, but butthere is some sort of strategy
session.
It's not coming from the WhiteHouse, but there is some sort of
strategy session.
So my guess is they're going togo through and feed a bunch of
questions to the House committee, that's, you know, seeing this,
overseeing this, and that's howthat will roll.

(21:37):
But, yeah, interesting crowd.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Very interesting crowd and you know, let's face
it, we're all.
I shouldn't say we're all.
I know I'm going to tune inbecause even if they're going to
be pleading the fifth, everytwo seconds, every question, I
want to see this woman and thisman look uncomfortable and
squirm right and look furiousbecause she is incapable of

(22:01):
hiding her rage anymore.
I don't think.
I don't care how many meds theypump her with, I don't think
she can hide it, Right?
Wasn't that the whole thing?
Like they had heavily medicatedbecause her, her crazy rage I
mean, that's a word right thereRage.
Now you know, I agree.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I am.
You know me.
There's only one conspiracytheory that I kind of follow
along with, and that me there'sonly one conspiracy theory that
I kind of follow along with andthat's the whole President
Kennedy thing.
But I did see an interestingone the other day about
Secretary Clinton and that allthe way back to 2016, she had a
health incident and the SecretService like loaded her into
suburban and they moved her out.
I remember it well, and sincethen there are people that swear

(22:44):
that she has been replaced.
I've heard that and I had neverheard that theory before and I
kind of dismissed it, except forone very small detail which I
thought was brilliant, and thatwas she walked out of Chelsea's
apartment building in New YorkCity, out onto the street, with
not a single secret servicemember detail member escorting

(23:07):
her out of the building.
Not one, nobody in front of her, nobody behind her.
Now that doesn't mean thereweren't guys on the street, but
she literally walked out thedoor, nobody with her, nobody,
um, and that I thought was alittle bit odd.
The rest of it like people aretalking about her nose and her
chin and some other things Okay,fine, was a little bit odd.
The rest of it, like people aretalking about her nose and her
chin and some other things, andokay, fine, whatever.
But that little piece, I know,kind of caught me by surprise,

(23:28):
but that was.
I've never heard that theorybefore I kind of for the most
part, but that that one scenewith her I thought was very
interesting.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, I, I've heard that one.
Of course, I'm sure we've allheard about the the Biden clone,
that he has many of them, thatthey say that you know they just
trade out actors as they Idon't even know, I mean as they
pass away or as they simply needthem.
You know, and they do the samething.
They do the side by sides.
It's always the earlobes.
You're always talking about theearlobes.
You know, yeah, right, you know,listen, I am of the mindset

(23:59):
that you cannot surprise meanymore.
So if this were all true,wouldn't surprise me.
If it wasn't true, wouldn'tsurprise me.
You know, I don't know.
I mean some interestingtheories, let's put it that way
for sure, and I wouldn't, Iwould never rule them out.
You know, there's too muchstuff going on underneath the
surface of what we all see.

(24:19):
So all of those things are notonly possible, but potentially
even very likely.
So I don't know, I don't know.
That is a story and a topic foranother day, right?
Not when we have this manyCan't do it today.
Can't do it today, maybe one day, guys, you know what, guys, you
know what you can do.
Okay, this might be fun, clay,or it might be torture for us.

(24:41):
Why don't you guys, in thecomments, tell us all of the
conspiracy theories you wouldlike to talk about and we'll see
which ones we can cover?

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think we did a holiday show, I think a couple
of years ago, and we talkedabout like we asked questions of
each other back and forth, andI think you hit me with the
conspiracy theory thing, I thinkyou're right, we've touched on
it a couple of times, but thatwould be a fun show.
We could even do that one.
Folks, we haven't done a liveone in a while.
Maybe we should do a live showand just open it up for
questions from the fans.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
We could do one of those.
I love that.
I think that's a great idea.
Yeah, we absolutely should.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
We'll play one of those.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, definitely, my goodness.
I'll definitely have to get mystudying cap on and study up on
my conspiracy theories.
I think we're not even supposedto call it that anymore.
Didn't we stop calling itbecause so many of them have
been right that we call themjust truths that haven't been
discovered yet?
All right, next one.
Next one Nancy Mace I havefeelings.

(25:35):
Clay Tell me.
Yeah, I just, I honestly, Igenuinely, and I see all over
the place my exact sentiment.
However, I do not like sayingthings like this, but I'm going
to say it anyway.
I'm not a fan.
I'm not a fan, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I don't why.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
She is so much, she's so much and I think that she
comes across as at at timesbeing a wee bit unhinged and I
am not saying that she isunhinged.
I certainly.
I certainly have tremendousrespect for her.

(26:17):
She was the first femaleCitadel graduate and South
Carolina congressman.
You know a lot of respect forthat.
I think that's cool.
I do think she is.
It's a very dynamic,interesting person.

(26:40):
She's positioning herself.
What is she calling herself?
Trump in heels?
Is that it Trump in high heels?
You know, I don't know.
I mean, it's definitely verybold branding, for sure.
I just don't know if herintensity translates well to the
masses.
What do you?
think.
Do you have a higher opinion?

(27:01):
I like her?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, I do.
I admire her for the Citadelthing because she is the first
graduate but, she's not thefirst to attend.
Right there was a young lady Idon't remember her name who you
know went in there, you knowkicked open the doors, lasted
two weeks and quit.
But right behind her was andit's not just Nancy Mace there
was a.
There was a number of, a smallnumber, a handful of women who

(27:23):
graduated with her.
She is in the first class thatgraduated women from the Citadel
and I think that formed a lotof who she is as an adult.
That experience those fouryears.
You know she didn't take thecommission as a, as a military
officer, as as many do out ofthe Citadel, but I think that
formed who she is as a person.
Um, I like her because she does.

(27:45):
You're right, she's an intenselady.
Um, she doesn't take crap fromanybody.
Um, you know to the point whereshe even last year what was it?
You know she she posted a nakedsilhouette of herself right In
this whole.
She's a big proponent ofcriminal charges for revenge
porn, which she's been a victimof.
She put a picture of herself,naked silhouette of herself, up

(28:07):
in Congress right To make apoint and I know that's a lot
for some people, but I but I dolike her and I but I think this
cause.
We've also had Marsha Blackburnjust today announced that she's
running for governor ofTennessee.
So we've got two GOP strongpersonality females leaving
Congress to go, attempt to runtheir state and they do have to

(28:29):
remove themselves from theircongressional seats to do so.
So you know, and neither one ofthem is a special election.
So they're both coming out on anormal election cycle where
replacements will be elected ona normal cycle, no special
election required, and both ofthem are responding to term
limit elections.

(28:50):
So this isn't a I'm challengingthe sitting governor.
Both of them are in stateswhere you've got a term limit
governor and they've got to bereplaced.
So they're stepping out ofCongress to do so and they're
both doing it.
Now here's the argument right,for the people who look at this
and they say, well, we need themin Congress.
Right, because that's theinitial reaction, like we can't

(29:10):
afford to lose a senator, wecan't afford to lose a
representative, but yet we youand I, both among the vast
majority of America continue tosay term limits in Congress.
Yes, so this, if we get what wewant, this is the future, right
, right, we're going to turnover all of these Congressmen
and women on a regular basis.

(29:31):
So we have to get over thatpiece of it and we have to
accept this as the future, ifthat's what we all want.
So I like her.
I like her in Congress.
I think she's of value, she'snot afraid.
She was one of those you know.
She kind of went after thewhole transgender athletes,

(29:51):
she's gone after the bathroombills, she's gone after a lot of
those very sensitive topics andshe'll do the same thing for
South Carolina.
I just you know it's tough thatwe have to lose them, but I
think it is also the right thingto do.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not, I'm certainly not against her
becoming the governor there.
I think I just simply wouldwant for her to like, I guess my
issue here kind of comes downto is this authentic or is this,
you know, theater again?

(30:22):
You know, is this just granddramatics that you're doing all
the time?
You know I respect that.
She is a an extremely vocaladvocate for victims of sexual
assault and abuse and all ofthose things, and she's, you
know, extremely bold and openabout her own traumatic
experiences in life, about herown traumatic experiences in
life.
I think where the line kind ofcomes in that if this is your

(30:48):
platform, this is what you talkabout all the time and you kind
of use that as your batteringram on everyone who comes
against you.
You know, that's where I kindof get a little put off on her
and you know, and I know otherpeople do I actually was just, I
was just perusing X before thisto kind of get a vibe of what

(31:09):
other people are thinking.
You know more so to see, like,is this just me?
Am I just, you know, am I justkind of being meh for no good
reason?
And you know, I see I see bothsides of it and you know, I see,
I see both sides of it.
But yes, I like the move towardsthe term limits that we've been

(31:30):
talking about forever and wouldnot be against her being
governor.
I just you know, it's just youknow what.
Sometimes people just rub youthe wrong way.
For me, that's that's the thingwith her.
Does not reflect, in my opinion, on whether I think she'll do a
good job or not.
Does not reflect, in my opinion, on whether I think she'll do a
good job or not.
I think she has the potentialto do a great job and as long as
her own things don't get in theway.
You know a little less of aloose cannon vibe and more of

(31:55):
that just fierce advocate forthe things that she believes in.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
That's where I'm at.
I think one or both of them herand Marsh Blackburn are
potentially setting themselvesup for a VP or presidential run.
As you know, the knock on a lotof Congress people who run
who've never been a governorbefore Right If they come
straight out of out of theSenate or straight out of the
House and they run for presidentis, well, you've never been in

(32:18):
charge of anything before Right.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
So this could be positioning.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Right.
So I think this is like checkthe resume, like I've run a
budget for a state.
I've run a state you know thathas a house and a Senate.
I've run, like you know, all ofthose things that we want our
presidential candidates to beable to do and say that they've
done right.
This is a little bit of blockchecking for either one or both
of them.
So I think in the you know,let's do a quick math right

(32:43):
Maybe a 2036, you knowpresidential run for either one
of them.
I don't think either one ofthem would do a two year, hand
the governor for two years andthen bow out to either run for
president or be on the ticketwith JD Vance that's also
possible or even be a cabinetmember for Vance if he is
elected as president in 2028.
So I think there's some of thisis I don't you know, you said

(33:06):
theater, but I think it's maybea little bit deeper than that
but it is block checking, Ithink, for one or both of them
to be a governor and makethemselves more of a viable
presidential candidate in thenext eight to 12 years.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Definitely, I'm looking to see.
If I thought I had a questionfor you on this.
Oh, I guess the question wasabout electability.
Can she rally rural voterswithout alienating moderates?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, I think Marsha Blackburn is a done deal.
I think she's going to win.
Tennessee hands down, noproblem.
I think you know what is it.
There's four other candidatesalready in it in South Carolina
that she's going to run against.
I think she is the mostwell-known.
I think she is probably thefavorite walking in the door, so

(33:50):
she can only go down from there, which there's nothing saying
she won't.
I mean, you said it.
She is a little fiery, she isemotional and that may turn some
people off if she runs forgovernor, but I think they're
both the favorite walking in.
I think Blackburn is a gimme.
I think that's a three footpart, but I think you know Mace
is.
Mace is less certain because ofher personality.

(34:12):
So, yeah, yeah, definitely nota gimme.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Right, right, yeah, it's going to be interesting to
watch.
I definitely wish them bothsuccess because that's, you know
, for the party and for thefuture, that's what we need.
We need these people in each ofthese states.
You know, simple as that,really, right, yep, who we got
next.
Speaking of states well,technically, cities.
Speaking of where's my?

(34:35):
Girl.
Let me put my girl up there.
There she is Megan busting onher for her makeup and hair and
photo ops, but I don't care, Ilove her, so whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
yeah I'm a fan.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I like her um I.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, she's a, you know she.
She is, you know, a midwestgirl.
She is a.
He's on a farm, he's on a ranch, like she is she?
Yeah, is she pretty?
Yes, does she wear a lot ofmakeup?
Yes, do we really care?
No, like I, the photo ops.
Maybe she probably missed themark on a couple, but, you know,
so is president Trump, so iseverybody.

(35:07):
Does Um, listen?
You know my, you know me andMegan um go back, go back to
some of her younger day photoshoots and tell me that she
didn't miss the mark on a fewthings.
So let's, uh, okay, let totopic at hand.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yes, yes, all I'm going to say is listen, we all
misstep, okay, it happens, it'sa thing, uh, and we will all
misstep more, so whatever, um,but you know, the important
thing is that she's doing herjob, she walks the walk.
She doesn't just talk the talk,she walks the walk, she's the
real deal.
Um.
So, fact summary here the dojreleased a list of 35 sanctuary
jurisdictions states, cities,counties and vowed to litigate

(35:49):
against laws obstructing federalimmigration enforcement.
Some lawsuits have already beenfiled, but courts have tossed
cases in Chicago and elsewhere.
Yeah, so I don't know what doyou think, clay?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, so I went to the DOJ site to check this out
and so it's a running list sothey keep this updated.
But the current, most recent,has, let's see, 12 cities, or 12
states plus DC.
They list DC as DC and not as acity, right?
So they listed it amongst thestates of 12 states plus DC, 18

(36:17):
cities and four specificcounties, one of those being
Cook County, illinois, which isChicago, two out of California,
and then I don't remember thefourth one was that.
But they update this and you'reright.
So there's been lawsuits filed,including against the city of
New York.
This is, you know, in violationof federal law.
They're essentially impedingthe enforcement of federal law

(36:42):
and you know there is someeffectiveness to this because
we've already had I think it wasLouisville, right, the mayor of
Louisville came back and saidI'm not playing the legal games
and so pulled all sanctuary citystatus from the city of
Louisville.
So there's some of that.
The list is not all inclusive,but it is constantly updated.
So the 35 or so that are onthere now I think you know you
get updates as things likeLouisville happens or, as you

(37:06):
know, they add more to it.
But I guess the question is wetalk about decentralized
government, right?
You and I, right, the GOP as awhole is against big gov, right?
It's against federal control.
It's more towards push tostates rights.
So in this case, where do yousit on that?

(37:27):
Is this state's rights?
Are they overstepping statesrights?
Like you know, there's againit's kind of like the term
limits thing, like we need to beokay with some of this.
You know, conceptually, maybenot this specific case, but you
know, is it state's rights orare they overstepping what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Yeah, I, I don't know.
I don't have the answer to it.
I'll tell you that much.
I really don't, you know, andagain, and I go back to like,
sometimes a lot of this stuffjust feels like theater because
you know everybody is steppingon everybody else so nothing
really actually happens.
It's just a lot of you knowtugging back and forth and then

(38:12):
so what happens, you know?
So I don't know.
I mean, what do you think iswhat's?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
You know, I think I, I personally believe that when
you're endangering, when yourpolicy endangers citizens, then
there's a problem and I thinkthat's the crux of it and and
you know we're gonna get intothis in one of our kind of
closeout topics but like DC is agreat example where you know DC
policies.
It doesn't belong to a state,right, but it is, you know, on

(38:41):
par as the district itself.
So what does the federalgovernment do to make sure the
citizens aren't, you know, atrisk?
And how far can the state, thefederal government, step in?
You know we've got Louisvillereacted right to a lawsuit.
They're like we're not playingthis game, we can't afford it,

(39:11):
we're not going to do it.
So what is what does the federalgovernment do in a lawsuit
against, like, say, this lawsuitagainst the city of New York
and it wins, then what Does thattake?
All the power away from themayor and therefore the people
of New York that elected themayor.
I don't know, it's a very.
This is definitely thoselawsuits, if they progress, are

(39:34):
going to the Supreme Court andit's going to be a very
interesting outcome for all ofthose.
You know, as they progress.
I wish, I think we all wishthat there would be some common
sense solution to this, but Ithink you're going to get enough
hard line in the blue statesand cities, which is what all of
these are.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah they're going to they're.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
they're not going to back down from it and I think
it's going to get a little bitugly.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely is.
And I thought of our, you know,I've had this running thing
week to week of somethingfatigue, something fatigue every
week.
This week for me I don't knowabout you this week for me is
lawsuit fatigue.
I have lawsuit fatigue becausethey're like, the court system
is so saturated with theselawsuits that this will be going

(40:23):
on for like 20 years before wesee any kind of, you know,
actual resolution.
I mean, that's what it feelslike.
I don't know if that's the case.
I know lots of them get tossed,you know, as they start to move
along or get really looked at.
But yeah, I don't know abouty'all, but I definitely have
lawsuit fatigue because that'sthe word you hear every two
seconds.
So and so is filing a lawsuitagainst this one, and you know,

(40:45):
and that's kind of the last youhear of it for a little while so
because it just sits in, youknow, it sits in the system
until it can be taken up.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, we are certainly.
We are certainly a verylitigious society.
We're at, you know, and it's,and it's gone everywhere from
federal government, stategovernment level, all the way
down to individuals.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely, we've talkedabout this.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Everybody's too happy .
Sometimes you just wish twoguys would go out in the street
and beat the crap out of eachother and then shake hands and
be done with it.
But we don't do that Good olddays.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I miss the good old days where you could just go pop
somebody right in the face.
You know S know I posted afunny side note.
I posted a meme.
It's been circulating forever,or at least for a while, of Mike
Tyson.
Quote from Mike Tyson, myfavorite.
I love it so much.
You know something to theeffect of people on the Internet
have gotten way too comfortablewith saying things and you know

(41:35):
, not getting punched in themouth for it punched in the face
for it.
You know I paraphrase, butthat's pretty darn close to it.
And I happen to do my quick,quick glance through the
comments section.
Most people are, you know,normal and either laugh or agree
or, you know, leave it alone,you know.
But there's always that likeone or two that are like, oh,
that's, that's terrible, that'snot very Christian of you to

(41:55):
want to punch somebody in themouth, to which I say, yeah,
like, oh, mouth.
To that I say my favoritephrase, or one of them, which is
cry more Like.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
I stop, I don't care.
Yeah, good old punter kisser,but with that right.
So now we've got you know.
Next topic we've got you knowthe Zohan.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
The Zohan.
Yes, Don't mess with the Zohan.
Wait what that's not him, oh.
I'm sorry.
My bad, my bad.
Oh, this was the one I, yeah.
I mean.
The question is how dangerousis this?
Right?
I mean his.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
He is the blatant outspoken socialist you know it
used to be bernie sanders andelizabeth warren and everybody

(42:53):
kind of like.
You know they were only twopeople and they were a little
kooky and we all just kind oftolerated them and you know,
whatever, um, and then you gotAOC in the squad, right, you got
a little bit more and so nowyou've got you know, mom Donnie,
and you've got we talked aboutthis a couple of weeks ago the
mayoral candidate in Minneapolis, right.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
So we've got this rise in outward socialism in
elected officials.
And you know, I just postedsomething and I didn't even
realize this.
I posted it and then I got thatmessage from somebody that said
I was, I was quoting Stephen ASmith, which I don't do but I
posted something on social mediathat said you know, the rise of

(43:36):
socialism is either going to bethe end of the Democratic Party
or the end of America.
Right, but wisely.
And Stephen A Smith saidexactly the same thing within
the last few days and he wastalking about this and he said
that.
He said you know, if you votein socialism, right, then
socialism will destroy America.
Right, if the Democratic Partycontinues to vote in more and

(44:01):
more socialists into theDemocratic Party, it's going to
destroy the Democratic Partybecause they're never going to
win a federal level election ofany kind ever and then the party
is going to crumble.
So you know, but I think he's.
You know, the old adage goesyou can vote, you can vote your
way into socialism, but you'regoing to have to shoot your way
out of it.
Right, right, right.

(44:22):
But there's so many of theyounger generation who are
talking about wealthrestrictions, wealth sharing,
government control.
We've talked about it before wetalk about we would love for
some of these uber wealthy to bemore altruistic, more
philanthropic.
Right, the best one so far isBezos's wife, who's essentially

(44:44):
she sued the crap out of him inthe divorce and has given away
billions of dollars, right,right, but we can't mandate that
Right, it's their money and wewouldn't want it.
Right, they can be crappy humanbeings, it's their right.
You know they.
They've earned the money.
It's their money to do whatthey want with.
You know, whether you like ElonMusk or not, he can buy Twitter
if he's got the money to do it,which he did.

(45:05):
Right, that's the way Americaworks.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, you can't be mad at the people who took
advantage and had the knowledgeof how to take advantage of the
system that we all have the sameopportunities to.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
So just because they did it Worked hard enough to get
the money.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, yeah, and it's crazy.
And you touched on the, theyouth, the young folks thinking
this is all such a great ideabecause they have that, you know
, rose colored glasses on thatthey have been trained and
taught to have on.
Because they have been taughtwhat to think and not how to
think and not to rationalize.
And look at the other side ofthat and certainly not look at

(45:45):
the countries.
Look at every single placewhere it has failed.
You know, and they buy intothat, yeah, but the way we're
going to do it is different.
Like, yeah, no, that failedbecause they did it different.
Like we've got the right way todo it.
You know, you dummies, you dumblittle dum-dums, oh, yes, and
you know this is all part ofthat.

(46:07):
You know, harped on this formany a year now that this is all
part of the plan.
The indoctrination from, youknow, a very young age, the
public school system, thecolleges, all of those things
they have been so trained andconditioned like good little
seals to, you know, bark andclap and perform on command and

(46:29):
not to ever actually think.
And and this is where we're atand this is why we have going on
what we have going on Peoplelike Mamdani, you know, winning
New York City's Democraticmayoral primary.
And this is a guy.
He is such a cliche socialist.
He comes from wealthy parents,he's got money, he's got all of

(46:49):
the he had.
You know, armed guards with youknow like what air 15s or I
don't know what they had theyhad.
Like you know, right there,that should be chilling to
people.
And they don't even register.

(47:09):
Like this guy is part of thewealth bracket that you're so
against and he's your leader,like he's your beacon of hope.
The stupidity to me is galling.
It really is.
And you know I try not to bemean, except for when this stuff
aggravates me to the extentthat it does.
And then I just got to be.

(47:30):
I got to be mean about itbecause I feel like it's the
only way we can get this throughtheir heads, or not?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I just I feel so.
Take the socialism which he'she's admitted out loud, doesn't
care, he's on a bash Right, he'sa socialist.
I think with him there's also adanger of um, you know islam
and and you know sharia law andthose kinds of things.
I think that's a viable, viabledanger with him.

(47:56):
But I also think he is anabsolute liar, like he is.
He will lie and he will sayanything and everything he has
to to get elected.
Yeah, knowing 100 he's lying,doesn't care if he's lying, and
he will say anything andeverything he has to to get
elected.
Yeah, knowing 100% he's lying,doesn't care if he's lying.
And then, once he gets intooffice, he's going to do what he
wants to do, and I and it andit is so, so blatant to me, and

(48:19):
he and he doesn't care, and he'sand he knows it.
And that's why I think he'smost dangerous.
He is going to do whatever itis that he wants to do, whatever
he has to do, and he is themost dangerous in all of this.
Bernie Sanders is a crazy oldman.
Elizabeth Warren is a liar andeverybody knows it and they

(48:39):
don't take her seriously.
Aoc and the rest of the squadthey're really really dumb as
dirt.
I actually think this guy ispretty smart, but I think he's a
blatant, friggin liar and hewill do anything and everything
to get elected, and it's he isdangerous.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yes, yeah, I agree, and I, and I hope, man, oh man,
I hope they're taking that, thatdanger seriously.
I think that they are.
I think there are some some bigNew York business men putting
up a nice, big, solid chunk ofchange to fight against him.
Yeah, more people need to be,more people in that position

(49:19):
should be doing that as well,taking this threat very
seriously.
Like you said, he is fully openabout itish abolish the police,
get rid of the police.
Um, state government-rungrocery stores, you know, I mean
all the key, all of the key.
Those are just two of them,those you know, but all of the
key uh phrases and terms and andbelief systems, um, he's just

(49:42):
putting them right out there ona silver platter, neon lights on
it.
So, yeah, we have beenforewarned, really by him
himself.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Well, and then, moving on to our next topic, he
gets backing and associationfrom people that support this
same sort of abomination.
And I know this is going to getyou worked up.
I'm the talk person, then I'mgoing to let you fly off the
handle.
For those of you that haven'tseen this, so there's a current
production of Jesus Christsuperstar, and if you're not
familiar with it, it is.

(50:12):
It is not well received in theChristian community.
It never has been.
It's the story of Christ toldfrom Judas's perspective, right,
and it is inflammatory and notvery flavor favorable towards
Jesus, as you know, the Saviorhimself, but also as a human
being.
So it's openly.
In this current production youhave Jesus being played by a gay

(50:34):
black woman who is in therecent production of Wicked I
believe that's the same woman,but the Wicked movie, I think
that was out recently the samewoman.
So this is openly mockingChristianity.
Openly, right.
Not just the play itself, whichalways has been controversial,
but her playing Christ is openlymocking Christianity.

(50:56):
This never happens to anotherreligion, right?
Never.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
They wouldn't dare.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Wouldn't dare, right, wouldn't dare go after Muhammad
, wouldn't dare any of the othermajor religions.
This is supported by Hollywood.
The liberal left, all everybodyin the entertainment industry
is lauding how amazing this is.
Um, you know you could.
Is this freedom of speech?
Sure?
Maybe?
Is it potentially a hate crime?
It could be, um, but the.

(51:23):
The one thing that I want tosee, which you will never see,
is I want to see Malcolm Xplayed by an elderly Chinese
woman with an amputated arm.
Um, just to prove a point right, I love that.
Or she can't.
You know, do the right, rightshe can't do that, right?
Nope.
But I want to see that, right,I want to see that.
I want to see that kind ofdiversity, but you'll never see

(51:49):
it.
Okay.
Only attacks on whiteChristians, specifically male,
most of the time, you know, onlythose cases.
Are these played by?
You know, people who don't fitthat bill, physically,
physiologically, you know, etcetera, et cetera.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Yeah, so you know so, to state the the obvious and to
echo, uh, what you said.
You know this, this is obviousrage bait.
It's, you know, more theaterfrom the theater crowd, and the
goal and intention is 100percent to enrage and insult and
inflame and to get people topay attention to them.

(52:24):
And you know, congratulations,they have succeeded in doing
exactly that.
Yes, absolutely.
My first reaction is to becomeextremely unchristian and say
some very, very unchristianthings about this.
And then I calmed down and Idid pray on it.

(52:47):
I did take that pause and say,lord, I actually need you to
speak through me because youdon't want me saying what I want
to say.
So I did take that pause and Idid write, and I wrote a post
and I made a video about it,which was really just echoing

(53:07):
the same sentiment, just twodifferent forms.
And here's what I, here's whatI came up with God Jesus does
not need us to defend him.
He's got this and I, I havecome to a place where I feel
very sad for them.

(53:27):
You know, y'all can choose tobelieve whatever you want to
believe, but I am speaking frommy belief system and this is
what I believe, and you are, ofcourse, welcome to disagree with
me.
I believe that they willsomeday answer to the King of
all Kings, and woe to them whenthat happens.
And so I think it's my job as aChristian to pray for their

(53:52):
souls and pray for theirrepentance.
And do I think it'll happen?
I mean not for me to say,because their conversations with
God are their own.
I think that we, as Christians,as followers of Christ if you
don't want to call yourself aChristian, specifically because
I know there's people that don'twant to be called that, even

(54:12):
though they're followers ofChrist so, however you want to
phrase it, just you know what.
Let's not get angry about it,because that's what they want.
That's what they want.
Jesus is perfectly fine.
He's got this 100% and more, sowe will pray for them.
Yes, it absolutely is appalling,disgusting, disrespectful.

(54:33):
The attack, like Clay said, theattack on white Christians is
obscene, to say the least.
And you know, at this point,gosh, we're so used to it, we're
so used to it.
It's like, really Like, can'tyou, literally cannot, hurt me
with with this, this, thisdisgusting, deliberate?

(54:53):
I'm adding it back to thescreen here, this display of
disrespect and mockery.
This is not for me to handle.
This is not for me to worryabout.
That will be for them to worryabout.
So do you see how I calmedmyself down, clay?
See, it wasn't me calmingmyself down, it was the good
Lord calming me down and get meto act right.

(55:15):
But I will tell you in allsincerity, the me in me wants to
give a very, very differentreaction, and that that is our,
that is my Christianity at work,that is the Holy Spirit doing,
doing its job inside of me, andI'm humbly grateful for that.
Um, so, yeah, that's it.
I'm off my soapbox.

(55:36):
Uh, I, I hope I talked somebodyelse off of the.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
The rage ledge there on you for for your calm and
sincere response to that.
I was expecting a little bitmore animation, but good for you
.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I was starting there.
As soon as you started talkingabout it, clay, I could feel
like you can't see because myhair is hiding it.
But you know, I don't knowabout anybody else, but when I
start getting angry or emotionalor anything, my chest gets like
fire engine red and it travelsup to my face like I can't hide
it and I was like calm it down,don't be you, don't be yourself
here, be what you need to be.

(56:13):
So, yes, yeah, we've got, wecan do this, we've got two more
to end our, our, our showtonight.
These are, you know, again,including that one to a degree.
I guess these are lightertopics, are more amusing, are
you know not?
End of the world, doom andgloom stuff.
So here's one that I find youknow entertaining.

(56:34):
Bye, yeah, bye.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
And this goes back to one of the things that we were
talking about earlier, and thisis capitalism at its finest.
This is Colbert.
Sirius Radio has canceledHoward Stern after however many
years it's been.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Like 25 years, I think.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
But you know, listen, Howard Stern years and years
ago is the best thing on theradio, which is why not only did
Sirius pick him up, they hadhim on two channels, right, and
he had his own channels.
So, but he didn't evolve withthe times.
Anybody who does anything inthe exact same thing in
entertainment for 20 years isbound to end, no matter who you
are, even if you know and hetried to change with the times

(57:16):
and failed, because he got to bevery.
You know he got to be an angryguy and he's yelling at people,
and you know he's veryanti-Trump, which you know the
American public has shown timeand time again.
That is not the position totake and he's paying for it.
So he has been canceled at theend of this contract.
It will not be renewed andHoward Stern's show will go away
forever.

(57:37):
And I for one who really neverlistened to Stern.
It's not even that I am happy,it's that I really don't care.
Yeah, but he got what hedeserved.
He got what he earned at theend of the day.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Listen.
He asked for it.
He came right out and said ifyou are a Trump supporter, don't
watch my show, don't listen tomy show.
And it was like all right, Imean stop, you're hurting me,
you know.
I mean I'm good without your.
You know, vulgar, mean-spirited, sexist, insulting, cranky old
lady schtick.
You know it's tired, it's old,we're sick of it.

(58:14):
Nobody cares anymore.
And I don't know if I have thenumbers on here, do I?
I think his viewership wentdown.
Yeah, so it went from like tensof millions to near extinction.
But I had the exact number,darn it.
I think it was something likefrom I don't know well millions
to about 125,000 followers thathe went down to Millions to

(58:36):
thousands.
That tells you everything youneed to know, right there, I
believe.
Let's see, I'm looking for ithere.
It was a $500 million SiriusXMcontract, so that's what he had.
It was a $500 million Sirius XMcontract, so that's what he had
.
It was a $500 million contract.
And now it's winding down, it'sdone.
And it's because of all of thatand he, like so many people of

(58:59):
that mindset, that leftistmentality or liberal mentality
during COVID I think I could bewrong.
I think that is when he trulystarted to lose it.
He became one of thoseterrified and I think he's
always had open about like he'sa really neurotic guy, like that
is his thing, like he's superneurotic.

(59:21):
I think he's like a germaphobeyou know all that kind of stuff.
He's got some stuff going onthere mentally germaphobe, you
know all that kind of stuff.
He's got some stuff going onthere mentally, and I think that
that was like a final break forhim.
It instilled a deep fear of theworld and he's already.
You know, these people arealready in their isolation
bubble.
They're already so shelteredand in their echo chambers and

(59:45):
you know everybody telling themhow great they are and they're
right about everything.
And yes, sir, you know, youknow you're the one.
This is what happens.
So goodbye and same Clay.
I watched, I listened, watched,you know, decades ago and even
then, only just to hear what thefuss was all about.
You know, found him brieflyamusing, but overall, you know,
it's always been thatmean-spirited thing.
He's a bully.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
He's a bully.
He's a bully that hides behinda microphone.
Yeah, you know, again in adifferent time in America would
get popped in the mouth on aregular basis because he runs
his mouth no-transcript.

(01:00:28):
She, you know, she had drug andalcohol issues.
She did some, you know, adultfilm stuff.
She did some other things andhe brought her onto a show and
truthfully, my understanding wasat the time she was kind of in
a recovery mode, she had verylittle money to her name brought
her on the show, ambushed herwith some really, really
horrible stuff, bullied the crapout of her and that night she
killed herself.
And it was a direct result ofhow he acted to her position.

(01:00:52):
He put her in on the air infront of all of his listeners at
the time and he's directlyresponsible and never held
accountable for it.
So there's a lot of bringingthat up and saying good, it's
good to see things.
You know you don't ever want tohear that that.
But you know, right, justice isbeing served all these decades
later.
So but he is, he's a bulletbeing a bully behind a
microphone.
Um, yeah, and he's not at allwhat our man big balls is.

(01:01:15):
I know that you wanted me tosay that and not yes, I'm gonna
say I can't, I started I can'tdo it.
Our guy listen, this is bigballs.
I'll say it again.
So it's one of the dogers, right?
So he was one of these 19 yearold programmers who everybody
was so afraid of.
So him and his significantother, a young lady, were in
Washington DC.
There was an attemptedcarjacking by anywhere from two

(01:01:39):
to 12 people.
Right, there's no two peoplehave been arrested.
So we know for sure.
There's more than that.
Him and his girlfriend wereabout to get in a car.
There was an attemptedcarjacking.
He shoved her into the car, heclosed the door and then he
turned and stood up to thiscrowd of people in Washington DC
.
We're going to carjack him.
He took the beating to protecthis girl, right?

(01:01:59):
Yeah, you saw the picture.
He got he got sorry.
Right, that's his own blood.
He got beat up.
There were, thankfully, policenearby that responded, reacted
and they broke it up.
They arrested two on the spot,a male and a female.
A bunch of other kids took off,so anywhere from two to 12.
But old Big Ball stood up youknow, and making that name proud
, making it right protected his,his girl, and this is where the

(01:02:23):
discussion of federal controlover DC came from President
Trump, as well as from Elon Musk.
But but you know, that's it,folks.
That's a man, right, 19 yearsold, he's a programmer, but he
did the masculine thing, hestood up and he protected his
woman and he took the beating,and sometimes that's what you
have to do, right?
Yeah, the beating Good on him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yeah, god bless him, and his non-toxic masculinity.
That was a man, oh man, becauseyou know, you know, we saw the
picture he's.
He's a.
He's a lean kid, he's a youngkid and, uh, he knew what he was
, he knew what was going tohappen to him, he knew, he knew
he wasn't coming out of thatclean and, uh, yeah, he's
concussed and and, uh, you know,pretty, pretty banged and and

(01:03:06):
bruised, but I bet he is feelingdamn good about himself.
Yes, good on him.
That is a man right there.
God bless him.
And that was our last topic man,oh man.
Like Clay said at the top ofthe hour, here we have so many
other things that we would haveloved to talk about and so many
things that are ongoing rightnow that we will be talking

(01:03:27):
about in upcoming episodes as weget more concrete info, because
, as you know, we do not like tojoin in in the presumptions and
half-truths and all of thatstuff.
We want to give you the realinformation, you know, and
that's what we'll do when wehave it.
So, thank you guys.
So much, clay.
Great job picking those topics,as always.

(01:03:48):
Will you please close them outfor the evening.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, folks.
So Elsa and I are about to takeour normal annual fall break.
We're going to take the nexttwo weeks off.
We usually do this at thesecond half of August or part,
you know, section of August, sothat we can do a little bit of
family time and enjoy our lives.
So we're going to take a breakfor a couple of weeks.
We will be back, um, you know,in three weeks.

(01:04:14):
The next two weeks there willbe no new shows, Although Elsa
is constantly creating content,Um, so there's always stuff to
look for from her.
But for this show we will beback in a couple of weeks and,
uh, we love y'all and maybewe'll put together something to
do that live show.
But pay attention, we're notgoing away.
We will be back in a couple ofweeks and until then, from me,
keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
We love you and we'll miss you, but we'll see you
when we get back.
Guys, Take care.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
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