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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, hello everyone.
As you can see, we are in avery as Clay just said it in a
very somber mood.
It is Wednesday, 4.54 pm andwe've been watching the news.
Clay was actually the first oneto let me know what had
happened.
Charlie Kirk was shot at acollege campus event, Utah
(00:27):
Valley, correct?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, Utah Valley University.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you.
And he has passed away and I'mtrying to keep it together.
I did not think I would be aperson to cry over someone I do
not know, but Charlie Kirk was avery, very special human being
(00:52):
and, more importantly to what herepresented to conservatives
and to civil, intelligentdiscourse, he was a husband and
a father to tiny children.
This is his beautiful familyand now they are looking at life
(01:16):
without him all because aderanged, lunatic Thought that
would be a good idea to do that.
I'm going to implore you guys,if you listen, you do what you
want to do.
I'm going to recommend that youdo not watch the video which is
(01:37):
there's multiple ones.
Now, I was not prepared forthat.
It is.
It'll stay with you.
Let's just leave it at that.
It'll stay with you.
It is very graphic and, like Itold Clay watching that, I could
(01:59):
not imagine short of a miracleif he could survive that.
Imagine short of a miracle ifhe could survive that.
And I kept hoping and I'm sure,like you, clay kept hitting
that refresh button every twoseconds and hoping for a miracle
.
And you know the Internet, aswe usually like to joke and no
(02:20):
joke, this time the Internetinternets and does what it does,
and there were just, you know,constant conflicting reports and
, uh, we actually are recordinglater than we actually normally
do on a wednesday because wewanted to wait for facts.
Um, yeah, I don't know aboutyou.
Know, you, clay, I it's likeone of those times where I just
(02:43):
feel like hanging it all up andjust being done with all of this
stuff, and I know that's notthe answer.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But yeah, this is a tough one, like Elsa said, so it
came across my newsfeed.
I alerted her because I knew wehad the recording coming up.
I knew that would impact onwhat we were going to talk about
.
And listen, folks, you're notgoing to get a full hour tonight
, don't?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
feel like it yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Don't feel like it, but it's, you know, not
something to be ignored, butwe're not going to go through
and do a full up show, but weare going to talk about this
incident as well as the attackon the Charlotte Metro.
But, charlie Kirk, when ithappened, I let Elsa know and
you know we went through what wenormally go through, which is
(03:37):
wait.
That's why I asked, you know,or I recommended to Elsa that we
push our recording 30 minutes,especially as the film footage
that Elsa mentioned became morepublic.
And if you see that, and if youknow anything and unfortunately
I probably know too much whenyou see that I told Elsa if, if
that film footage was realbecause nowadays we don't know
(03:59):
if it's AI or if it's real, butif that was real film footage,
we would know within 30 minutes,um, if he was going to survive
or not.
And, uh, I think our rightright at our normal recording
time was when the first reportscame through that he had passed
Um and understand that the manwho was arrested initially has
(04:21):
been, uh, released.
Uh, they have determined thathe was not the shooter, which
the goal is to find out who theshooter is.
The only things that we know,folks, is that this was, I think
, the first stop on a new tourfor him or it was very early in
a new tour for him.
I think it was the America Backon Track Tour is what he was
(04:42):
calling it.
We do know that he was beingasked.
He was on his second questionand, if you've all seen Charlie
Kirk, it was his normal setup.
It was the pop-up, the whitepop-up, him behind a table, kids
all over the place and he wason his second question and the
question.
My understanding from some ofthe reporting was it was on um,
(05:07):
the subject was it had to dowith transgender people.
Um, and that's when CharlieKirk was shot.
Um, again, if you haven't seenthe footage, you guys are going
to be watching this, you know,24 hours later, but, um, if you
haven't seen the footage, don'tum, you have.
I hope that somehow you canerase that out of your brain.
(05:29):
And you know, the striking partof all this one is that we
still don't know who did it atthis juncture, and two, that
this is where we are now.
Um, you know, two assassinationattempts on president Trump,
with the trial of the second one, uh, beginning, as you know,
(05:53):
yesterday.
Um, and then, you know, nowwe've got Charlie Kirk and, uh,
so the solution for certainpeople, when they disagree
politically with your views, isto kill you.
And this is folks.
This is not where any of usneed to be or should be, and
(06:14):
this is, you know, I got to behonest.
The patience that half of thiscountry shows when incidents
like this happen is waning, andthat's a very frightening
prospect.
There's been a lot of restraint, a lot of patience, a lot of
trying to understand happeningon the conservative side of the
(06:35):
aisle, and my fear is that thatpatience is, if it's not gone
already, it's really, reallyclose, and that's when things,
will you know, will get bad.
This should not be politicized.
Someone will, all you know,turn this into an argument about
gun control.
Someone will turn this into anargument.
You'll see people I'm surethey're already out there on the
(06:56):
internet saying had it coming?
What did you expect?
Those types of comments verymuch in the same way that they
responded to President Trumpbeing shot.
Same reaction.
There was a reaction justunbelievable from MSNBC to try
to downplay this, saying, oh, itcould have been somebody
(07:17):
shooting off their gun incelebration.
We don't know what happened.
We know what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
America knows exactly what happened, everybody know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
America knows, we know exactly what happened.
Everybody knows what happened.
Stop being an asshole, everybodyknows Like I'm starting to get
upset, but this is like that'swhat this is.
We have downplayed these eventsso many times and it emboldens
people to execute them and it'sshameful.
And the media is complicitMSNBC folks.
We're going to talk today aboutthe FCC going after mainstream
media for for exactly thingslike this and taking away their
(07:48):
license.
Yes, and I didn't know reallyhow I felt about that, but when
you have incidences like thatand that's the reporting, the
offhand comments that you make,your license should be pulled.
That's despicable.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's unbelievable to me Exactly Like you said, in the
aftermath of this, withinminutes.
You know they're essentiallyblaming Charlie Kirk, calling
him a right wing extremist andinciting.
You know, blaming him.
And if you've ever watchedCharlie Kirk and clearly they
(08:21):
have not, because there's nopossible way anyone could say
such a thing if you've actuallywatched him.
He promotes, he promoted, hepromoted discourse, conversation
, intellectual communicationbetween people instead of this
kind of nonsense.
(08:41):
And we have surpassed the pointwhere you can have these kind
of conversations with thesepeople.
Because this is where we're atand I have said this for years
now and I will shout it from therooftops I blame the media, I
blame the mainstream media allday long.
(09:02):
And I agree with you, clay, youknow the FCC conversation there
, you know, I kind of have thosesame mixed feelings, because
when you talk about thegovernment getting involved in
certain aspects, especially whenit comes to free speech, gets a
little scary, gets a littlecringy.
But this is, you know, I don'tknow what else to do at this
(09:24):
point.
They won't self-regulate, theywon't tone down the rhetoric,
they won't be human beings.
These are.
This is evil, pure evilyear-oldUkrainian girl getting onto
this train, and I'm sure you'veall seen that video as well many
(09:51):
times over now.
It is no less devastating andinfuriating and horrifying as
many times as you watch it.
And again it's another video.
I pray for your heart that youhave not watched the unedited
version of it.
I unfortunately again have.
(10:13):
You know I did this stupidthing Apparently I don't
remember doing it, but enablingautoplay for videos on social
media and I actually put out apost that I recommended that
people take their.
Turn that off.
If you can figure out how toturn it off, turn it off,
because you're going to seethings that you may not be
prepared to see.
Or heaven help if your childrenare sitting there with you and
(10:36):
they see this, and yeah, so ifyou can do that, you probably
should do that, if you think youcan stomach it.
I mean, you know, again, I'mnot going to tell you what to do
, I'm just I'm trying to protectyour heart and your mind.
I had no intentions of watchingthat unedited video and
unfortunately I did.
I didn't know that that wasgoing to keep going and it did
(10:59):
and it is, and everything aboutit is horrific, from the act to
that poor, beautiful girl'sshocked face which they show.
You know, somebody screen,grabbed it and, you know,
plastered all across socialmedia.
And then, of course, you havethe apathy of the bystanders
(11:21):
that were, you know, on thistrain and I will give the credit
enough to say that in theinitial first moments I don't
think anybody understood whathappened.
I honestly don't think thatanybody knew it was so fast and
so shocking.
I don't think any of them knewwhat happened.
But then you have the aftermathof this poor girl.
(11:45):
We are in a state in our society.
You know, as you were saying,clay, that this is a big turning
point right now, and I thinkthis has unleashed something in
conservative America that theleft is not ready for.
(12:06):
You are not ready for what willcome now from this.
And you know, if Charlie Kirkis the catalyst, if Irina is the
catalyst, I don't think it'sany one thing, it's just maybe,
like you said, you know, thematch just lighting this fire
that they're not going to beable to put out.
(12:28):
And you know, and I'm certainlyI will never be the one to
advocate and promote violencefor violence.
But I do know that this is oneshove too far.
It's too far.
One shove too far.
It's too far when you cannot goanywhere as a white well, male
(12:52):
or female if you can't be whitein America right now without
being in fear for your life andyeah, that's a big fat no, I'll
tell you, I carry.
I have for a long time.
I will be changing the way thatI carry and I can't believe
this is a conversation in reallife, right now that you know
(13:13):
I'm sitting here telling peopleto recommend that you protect
yourself in any way that you can, because this is, you know, in
some ways this is war that'sbeing declared and I don't
(13:37):
really want to feed into it andI don't want to be the one to
say let's, you know, let's go towar here with the other half of
our country.
But major things have to happenright now and I don't know what
they are.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, the reaction from the politicians in the
aftermath of this is too little,too late.
I've seen Gavin Newsom.
I've seen Kamala Harris.
I've seen members of Congress,you know, decrying this.
You know political violence hasno you know no place in our
(14:13):
civilized society.
Well, they didn't do anythingto stop this when it started a
few years ago, in the riots inthe aftermath of George Floyd.
In fact, they encouraged it.
People like Maxine Watersencourage violence and you can't
turn around now and say no,thank you, or you know, we don't
(14:35):
support this.
It's too late for that, georgeSoros.
George Soros should be in jailright now.
Everybody knows it, there's noquestion about it.
He's been feeding thisfinancially.
He's been feeding politicalviolence across the United
States for years, and everyoneknows it.
The riots in the cities, as weknow, you know, stacked piles of
(14:57):
bricks delivered right, shieldsdelivered right, all of these
things, these weren't paid forby, you know, the 32 year old
living in his mom's basementwith no job, uh, who's a member
of Antifa.
This was.
There's money behind this, andthey and you can track all of
that and I, and it all leads tothe same people, the same person
(15:18):
.
Um, but, but it's too little,too late for that.
I don't want to hear.
Uh, I don't want to hear one.
I don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear one.
I don't want to hear fromKamala Harris at all at all, but
I don't want to hear from GavinNewsom.
I don't want to hear fromanybody in Congress, on either
side of the aisle, decryingpolitical violence, when they've
done nothing to prevent this.
(15:41):
They've done nothing to stopthis.
This has been building for yearsnow, and Congress, our
lawmakers, our elected officialsfrom both parties have sat on
their thumbs when it comes topolitical violence.
In fact, most cases, they'veincited it, they've encouraged
it or at least they've beencomplicit in looking the other
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direction, the other direction.
So the rest of us are tired ofit, okay, and I and I they
should be ashamed collectively,as a whole, as our governing
body, for their lack of effortin resolving any of this.
It's shameful.
It is shameful from thenational level down to the local
(16:25):
level, because that includesgovernors, it includes mayors
and major metropolitan areas.
They are complicit in thisbecause they have either done
nothing or they have encouragedthis type of behavior.
So I'm tired of it.
A lot of America is, and I'mnot trying to incite violence.
But it's the cat's out of thebag, folks.
(16:46):
You know you've got to.
Somebody's got to put a hardstop on this right now, or the
things that Elsa is talkingabout are going to come to
fruition and nobody wants that.
Nobody does out loud when youhave, you know, city
representatives I've heard saythe gangs are telling the
(17:08):
military not to come to Chicagoor it's going to be a fight like
that is unacceptable.
That, the fact that that isbeing said about the city of
Chicago and nothing is beingdone by the city of Chicago to
stop this, except to block thefederal troops from coming in,
allowing the gangs to do whatthey please, instead of
(17:32):
facilitating the dismantling ofthe gangs.
Right, the federal governmentnow is going after the cartels.
Good Right, we're OK with that.
Yes, but what we're not doingis preventing.
You know Jasmine Crockett, whocame out and said the other day
the police aren't there toprevent crimes, they're there to
solve crimes.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
No, she's an absolute moron.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
She's the dumbest person in office period, but.
But crime prevention preventsIrina from being murdered on a
train, right?
It stops that.
When you lambast people likeDaniel Penny for protecting
people, then you get five peoplesitting on a train doing
(18:14):
nothing Literally nothing,because we've bred a society
that is.
I'm not going to get involved,it's not my problem, I'm staying
away from that.
Yeah, people are at risk,averse for their own safety,
they're not willing to step inand protect another human being.
And it's shameful because it'sall led by our political
(18:37):
leadership of both parties, atevery single level.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
There are some exceptions out there, don't get
me wrong.
There is some great state-levelleadership, there's some great
federal level leadership, butdecades upon decades, upon
decades of both parties sittingthere and doing nothing and
letting it trickle down thistrail.
To now we've got a full bonfire.
All we need is the match, and Ihope that this Charlie Kirk
(19:06):
incident is not the match, butit very well may be.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I suspect the murder of Irina Zerutska was
probably the drawing of thematch out of the matchbook.
And now this with Charlie wasthe lighting of it.
And now it's a question of isit, you know, is that match
(19:33):
going to get blown out or is itgoing to get flicked and ignited
?
I don't know.
You know, and of course it's,it's these aren't just two
isolated incidents.
This is, you know, obviouslyyears.
But more specifically, over thepast several months, within the
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past year, you know, it has beenhigh profile, horrific,
shocking, incident afterincident.
The first one that's coming tomind, well, of course, coming to
mind, well, of course, danielpenny.
Um, then you have austinmetcalf, who they still refuse
(20:15):
to release any kind of video,and again, it's not that I want
to see it, it's the fact thatthey're, they're high it, um,
and again, why?
Because it's black on whitecrime and they want to diffuse
that and pretend like it'ssomething else.
And of course we have this, andnow we have Charlie, and there
(20:36):
was a professor, female collegeprofessor, who was just murdered
in a park, Retired yeah, yes,retired, thank you.
Murdered in a park.
We're talking about horrific,violent crime, and those are
just the isolated high profileones.
(20:58):
Then you have all of thecitywide crime, rampant crime,
and a big part of that.
Again, of course, number one inmy mind, or at least tied with
them.
So number one, we have themainstream media and number two,
which is probably side by sidewith them, is these liberal
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judges who you know, this pieceof garbage that killed Irina,
and, yes, I keep saying her nameand I'm not going to say the
murderer's name, because he's apiece of shit and he doesn't
even deserve to be named.
I don't care about his mentalhealth, by the way, I don't care
.
He was a is a cause.
(21:41):
He's still alive.
He has been let out 14 times.
He clearly stating the obvious.
Obviously he has mental healthissues which you know.
The system just ignored andsaid whatever, I'm sure it'll be
(22:02):
fine.
And here we are, here we are,and I believe, here we are, and
I believe, pam Bondi, they've,they're going for a federal
death penalty, they're going forthe death penalty.
So, good, good, I really.
I just, you know, do like to gothe least combative route, like
let's talk about this.
(22:22):
Let's work it out together,let's figure it out.
You have taken us and you havemade us feel so uncaring about
(22:44):
these people that you think arethe victims instead of the
actual victims.
So now, so now we've hit thatpoint and, like I said early on,
charlie Kirk man, he will bethe martyr for this, because he
is the one you're going to belooking to.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The conservative crowd is going to be looking to,
as you know, this young man, 31years old, beautiful, young,
family, christian, just a goodman like a good man,
self-educated, did not have anadvanced degree of any kind,
right, you know, he's a Chicagoarea kid, taught himself, you
(23:27):
know, studied the Bible, butstudied our history, studied our
politics.
Very, very well informed, wasbrilliant.
I would bet money that he hadan eidetic memory.
I had to.
I'm fairly confident with hisability to recall such deep
information, specific facts, torecall such deep information,
(23:49):
specific facts, and he was verygifted.
But he was also, you know, verykind in that he would have a
grown-up conversation withoutgetting animated.
He, you know, invited all ofthese people.
He knew he was at risk.
He had a security team.
He knew there was a risk everytime he went on these things and
(24:11):
yet he did it because he lovedthis country and he wanted to
see this country get better andhe wanted to have open discourse
and can't agree to disagree andtheir only solution is violence
(24:33):
.
Then you have days like today,and this is unfortunately where
we are right now and it'sshameful and it's scary,
truthfully.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, and let me tell you to anyone on the left,
using the and I've seen italready a few times, actually,
before Charlie Kirk was murdered, the whole, oh, the right is
going to use this, meaning thecase of Irina Zarutska.
You know they're going to usethis as as a weapon or as a tool
(25:12):
to enact their this and that,and they're saying the same
thing about charlie kirk'spassing, that it's going to be
used as a blah blah.
You know, let's pause for aminute and talk about all of the
things that you you scumbag,pieces of garbage have done in
the name of vigilantism orjustice, you know, social
justice and all of those things.
You burned down cities, you putaddicts, pieces of garbage,
(25:41):
felons, up on pedestals and madegold statues of them, and did
all of these things for forcriminals, for horrible human
beings, and you ignored peoplelike Irina and barely even
commented on her.
Only to.
You know, I mean, I'm going toput them up now and I have them
(26:03):
and I just, I just simply don'teven feel like it.
I have a whole bunch of snippetsof these posts, headlines from
the mainstream media, from Axios, which is a joke in itself CNN
and all of them, and just youknow framing this brutal murder
(26:24):
in such absurd terms, and it'syou know this is their tactic
that they do over and over again.
They downplay the atrocity andyou know they either victim
blame or they completelydisregard the victim and talk
about you know how society, thisand that.
So everybody is just so sickand tired of them.
(26:47):
And I am ready for, I am readyand fully encouraging strong,
swift action from our governmenton this, on the media,
especially them.
I want these scumbags shut downand I don't want free speech
shut down.
I want these media organ.
(27:08):
I don't care you're going topop up somewhere else anyhow,
but there needs to beaccountability for the lies that
they tell, the violence thatthey incite, the mental illness
that they encourage.
You know, with their rhetoricand their lies, the freaking
lies that they tell, lies thatthey tell and villainizing
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people who are truly good humanslike Charlie Kirk.
And it is that rhetoric, it isthat nonstop barrage of BS that
is the dog whistle for thesefringe lunatics to act, and it's
it's.
Enough is enough.
I mean, enough is enough, we'redone.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, folks, this is, um, I think, uh, on behalf of
both of us, I think.
I think we're calling it.
I think 30 minutes is plenty totalk about this.
You guys, we will all know more, uh, when this airs.
I know that the the CharlieKirk shooter is still on the
loose.
I know that you're going to seeand hear a lot of things in the
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next 24 hours.
You're going to see conspiracytheories from both sides.
You're going to see evidence,self-proclaimed.
You're going to see evidence,uh, you know, self-proclaimed.
You're going to see internetdetectiving going on.
You're going to see a lot ofthings come up, um, conspiracy
theories.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You'll see the whole thing you're going to say this.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know you're going to see that this is
conservatives.
You know, sacrifice charlie fortheir gain.
You're going to see that.
You know um, liberals.
You know blah blah.
It's going to come from bothsides.
It's going to come fromeverywhere.
You're going to see that.
You know liberals.
You know, blah blah.
It's going to come from bothsides.
It's going to come fromeverywhere.
You're going to see everytheory in the world and I would
tell all of you to, just rightnow, I think what we all need to
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do is breathe, because we arestanding there with a lit
matchstick and that's wherewe're at right now.
So don't take the bait is allI'm telling you.
That's my advice to everyone isdon't take the bait.
Love on your family, be happythat you have them and you know,
band together and let's prayfor brighter days coming in the
(29:24):
future.
But something's got to changeand I'm not even going to, I'm
not even going to sign off.
I'm just not even going to doit.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, I'm with you, clay.
You know it's funny.
I've been multiple times overthe past few days.
I keep seeing a couple of Bibleverses and for my Christian
family out there, you knowexactly how this happens that
you know.
For some reason, you don't knowwhat it is.
You keep seeing the same onesover and over again and you kind
of just store it away in yourmind.
(29:53):
And the two that have been onrepeat for me lately have been
guard your heart and minds inChrist Jesus, and the other is
to capture every thought inChrist, and I think I needed to
store those words away formyself as I emotionally navigate
(30:16):
all of this.
I am extremely upset.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
We are all.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We are all extremely upset.
So I agree with Clay this is agood time to call it for the day
, because I will probably I'mgetting close to saying a lot of
things that I will probablyregret saying.
So I echo Clay's sentimentthere Hold your family close and
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try and keep calm, keepprayerful.
If you are the praying kind andspeak good to each other, all
right, and we will talk againnext week, and I pray that we
will have better things to sayto you next week.
There is so much good in theworld.
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There really is.
It doesn't feel like it in thismoment when you hear this
barrage of all of the uglinessand the unfairness of it all,
but there is so much good out inthe world and if you, you know
this saying if you can't findthe good, be the good in the
world, and I think that's all wegot.
So we'll see you guys next week.
Well, hello everyone.
As you can see, we are in avery as Clay just said it in a
very somber mood.
It is Wednesday, 4.54 pm andwe've been watching the news.
Clay was actually the first oneto let me know what had
happened.
Charlie Kirk was shot at acollege campus event, Utah
(00:27):
Valley, correct?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, Utah Valley University.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you.
And he has passed away and I'mtrying to keep it together.
I did not think I would be aperson to cry over someone I do
not know, but Charlie Kirk was avery, very special human being
(00:52):
and, more importantly to what herepresented to conservatives
and to civil, intelligentdiscourse, he was a husband and
a father to tiny children.
This is his beautiful familyand now they are looking at life
(01:16):
without him all because aderanged, lunatic Thought that
would be a good idea to do that.
I'm going to implore you guys,if you listen, you do what you
want to do.
I'm going to recommend that youdo not watch the video which is
(01:37):
there's multiple ones.
Now, I was not prepared forthat.
It is.
It'll stay with you.
Let's just leave it at that.
It'll stay with you.
It is very graphic and, like Itold Clay watching that, I could
(01:59):
not imagine short of a miracleif he could survive that.
Imagine short of a miracle ifhe could survive that.
And I kept hoping and I'm sure,like you, clay kept hitting
that refresh button every twoseconds and hoping for a miracle
.
And you know the Internet, aswe usually like to joke and no
(02:20):
joke, this time the Internetinternets and does what it does,
and there were just, you know,constant conflicting reports and
, uh, we actually are recordinglater than we actually normally
do on a wednesday because wewanted to wait for facts.
Um, yeah, I don't know aboutyou.
Know, you, clay, I it's likeone of those times where I just
(02:43):
feel like hanging it all up andjust being done with all of this
stuff, and I know that's notthe answer.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But yeah, this is a tough one, like Elsa said, so it
came across my newsfeed.
I alerted her because I knew wehad the recording coming up.
I knew that would impact onwhat we were going to talk about
.
And listen, folks, you're notgoing to get a full hour tonight
, don't?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
feel like it yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Don't feel like it, but it's, you know, not
something to be ignored, butwe're not going to go through
and do a full up show, but weare going to talk about this
incident as well as the attackon the Charlotte Metro.
But, charlie Kirk, when ithappened, I let Elsa know and
you know we went through what wenormally go through, which is
(03:37):
wait.
That's why I asked, you know,or I recommended to Elsa that we
push our recording 30 minutes,especially as the film footage
that Elsa mentioned became morepublic.
And if you see that, and if youknow anything and unfortunately
I probably know too much whenyou see that I told Elsa if, if
that film footage was realbecause nowadays we don't know
(03:59):
if it's AI or if it's real, butif that was real film footage,
we would know within 30 minutes,um, if he was going to survive
or not.
And, uh, I think our rightright at our normal recording
time was when the first reportscame through that he had passed
Um and understand that the manwho was arrested initially has
(04:21):
been, uh, released.
Uh, they have determined thathe was not the shooter, which
the goal is to find out who theshooter is.
The only things that we know,folks, is that this was, I think
, the first stop on a new tourfor him or it was very early in
a new tour for him.
I think it was the America Backon Track Tour is what he was
(04:42):
calling it.
We do know that he was beingasked.
He was on his second questionand, if you've all seen Charlie
Kirk, it was his normal setup.
It was the pop-up, the whitepop-up, him behind a table, kids
all over the place and he wason his second question and the
question.
My understanding from some ofthe reporting was it was on um,
(05:07):
the subject was it had to dowith transgender people.
Um, and that's when CharlieKirk was shot.
Um, again, if you haven't seenthe footage, you guys are going
to be watching this, you know,24 hours later, but, um, if you
haven't seen the footage, don'tum, you have.
I hope that somehow you canerase that out of your brain.
(05:29):
And you know, the striking partof all this one is that we
still don't know who did it atthis juncture, and two, that
this is where we are now.
Um, you know, two assassinationattempts on president Trump,
with the trial of the second one, uh, beginning, as you know,
(05:53):
yesterday.
Um, and then, you know, nowwe've got Charlie Kirk and, uh,
so the solution for certainpeople, when they disagree
politically with your views, isto kill you.
And this is folks.
This is not where any of usneed to be or should be, and
(06:14):
this is, you know, I got to behonest.
The patience that half of thiscountry shows when incidents
like this happen is waning, andthat's a very frightening
prospect.
There's been a lot of restraint, a lot of patience, a lot of
trying to understand happeningon the conservative side of the
(06:35):
aisle, and my fear is that thatpatience is, if it's not gone
already, it's really, reallyclose, and that's when things,
will you know, will get bad.
This should not be politicized.
Someone will, all you know,turn this into an argument about
gun control.
Someone will turn this into anargument.
You'll see people I'm surethey're already out there on the
(06:56):
internet saying had it coming?
What did you expect?
Those types of comments verymuch in the same way that they
responded to President Trumpbeing shot.
Same reaction.
There was a reaction justunbelievable from MSNBC to try
to downplay this, saying, oh, itcould have been somebody
(07:17):
shooting off their gun incelebration.
We don't know what happened.
We know what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
America knows exactly what happened, everybody know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
America knows, we know exactly what happened.
Everybody knows what happened.
Stop being an asshole, everybodyknows Like I'm starting to get
upset, but this is like that'swhat this is.
We have downplayed these eventsso many times and it emboldens
people to execute them and it'sshameful.
And the media is complicitMSNBC folks.
We're going to talk today aboutthe FCC going after mainstream
media for for exactly thingslike this and taking away their
(07:48):
license.
Yes, and I didn't know reallyhow I felt about that, but when
you have incidences like thatand that's the reporting, the
offhand comments that you make,your license should be pulled.
That's despicable.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's unbelievable to me Exactly Like you said, in the
aftermath of this, withinminutes.
You know they're essentiallyblaming Charlie Kirk, calling
him a right wing extremist andinciting.
You know, blaming him.
And if you've ever watchedCharlie Kirk and clearly they
(08:21):
have not, because there's nopossible way anyone could say
such a thing if you've actuallywatched him.
He promotes, he promoted, hepromoted discourse, conversation
, intellectual communicationbetween people instead of this
kind of nonsense.
(08:41):
And we have surpassed the pointwhere you can have these kind
of conversations with thesepeople.
Because this is where we're atand I have said this for years
now and I will shout it from therooftops I blame the media, I
blame the mainstream media allday long.
(09:02):
And I agree with you, clay, youknow the FCC conversation there
, you know, I kind of have thosesame mixed feelings, because
when you talk about thegovernment getting involved in
certain aspects, especially whenit comes to free speech, gets a
little scary, gets a littlecringy.
But this is, you know, I don'tknow what else to do at this
(09:24):
point.
They won't self-regulate, theywon't tone down the rhetoric,
they won't be human beings.
These are.
This is evil, pure evilyear-oldUkrainian girl getting onto
this train, and I'm sure you'veall seen that video as well many
(09:51):
times over now.
It is no less devastating andinfuriating and horrifying as
many times as you watch it.
And again it's another video.
I pray for your heart that youhave not watched the unedited
version of it.
I unfortunately again have.
(10:13):
You know I did this stupidthing Apparently I don't
remember doing it, but enablingautoplay for videos on social
media and I actually put out apost that I recommended that
people take their.
Turn that off.
If you can figure out how toturn it off, turn it off,
because you're going to seethings that you may not be
prepared to see.
Or heaven help if your childrenare sitting there with you and
(10:36):
they see this, and yeah, so ifyou can do that, you probably
should do that, if you think youcan stomach it.
I mean, you know, again, I'mnot going to tell you what to do
, I'm just I'm trying to protectyour heart and your mind.
I had no intentions of watchingthat unedited video and
unfortunately I did.
I didn't know that that wasgoing to keep going and it did
(10:59):
and it is, and everything aboutit is horrific, from the act to
that poor, beautiful girl'sshocked face which they show.
You know, somebody screen,grabbed it and, you know,
plastered all across socialmedia.
And then, of course, you havethe apathy of the bystanders
(11:21):
that were, you know, on thistrain and I will give the credit
enough to say that in theinitial first moments I don't
think anybody understood whathappened.
I honestly don't think thatanybody knew it was so fast and
so shocking.
I don't think any of them knewwhat happened.
But then you have the aftermathof this poor girl.
(11:45):
We are in a state in our society.
You know, as you were saying,clay, that this is a big turning
point right now, and I thinkthis has unleashed something in
conservative America that theleft is not ready for.
(12:06):
You are not ready for what willcome now from this.
And you know, if Charlie Kirkis the catalyst, if Irina is the
catalyst, I don't think it'sany one thing, it's just maybe,
like you said, you know, thematch just lighting this fire
that they're not going to beable to put out.
(12:28):
And you know, and I'm certainlyI will never be the one to
advocate and promote violencefor violence.
But I do know that this is oneshove too far.
It's too far.
One shove too far.
It's too far when you cannot goanywhere as a white well, male
(12:52):
or female if you can't be whitein America right now without
being in fear for your life andyeah, that's a big fat no, I'll
tell you, I carry.
I have for a long time.
I will be changing the way thatI carry and I can't believe
this is a conversation in reallife, right now that you know
(13:13):
I'm sitting here telling peopleto recommend that you protect
yourself in any way that you can, because this is, you know, in
some ways this is war that'sbeing declared and I don't
(13:37):
really want to feed into it andI don't want to be the one to
say let's, you know, let's go towar here with the other half of
our country.
But major things have to happenright now and I don't know what
they are.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, the reaction from the politicians in the
aftermath of this is too little,too late.
I've seen Gavin Newsom.
I've seen Kamala Harris.
I've seen members of Congress,you know, decrying this.
You know political violence hasno you know no place in our
(14:13):
civilized society.
Well, they didn't do anythingto stop this when it started a
few years ago, in the riots inthe aftermath of George Floyd.
In fact, they encouraged it.
People like Maxine Watersencourage violence and you can't
turn around now and say no,thank you, or you know, we don't
(14:35):
support this.
It's too late for that, georgeSoros.
George Soros should be in jailright now.
Everybody knows it, there's noquestion about it.
He's been feeding thisfinancially.
He's been feeding politicalviolence across the United
States for years, and everyoneknows it.
The riots in the cities, as weknow, you know, stacked piles of
(14:57):
bricks delivered right, shieldsdelivered right, all of these
things, these weren't paid forby, you know, the 32 year old
living in his mom's basementwith no job, uh, who's a member
of Antifa.
This was.
There's money behind this, andthey and you can track all of
that and I, and it all leads tothe same people, the same person
(15:18):
.
Um, but, but it's too little,too late for that.
I don't want to hear.
Uh, I don't want to hear one.
I don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear one.
I don't want to hear fromKamala Harris at all at all, but
I don't want to hear from GavinNewsom.
I don't want to hear fromanybody in Congress, on either
side of the aisle, decryingpolitical violence, when they've
done nothing to prevent this.
(15:41):
They've done nothing to stopthis.
This has been building for yearsnow, and Congress, our
lawmakers, our elected officialsfrom both parties have sat on
their thumbs when it comes topolitical violence.
In fact, most cases, they'veincited it, they've encouraged
it or at least they've beencomplicit in looking the other
(16:01):
direction, the other direction.
So the rest of us are tired ofit, okay, and I and I they
should be ashamed collectively,as a whole, as our governing
body, for their lack of effortin resolving any of this.
It's shameful.
It is shameful from thenational level down to the local
(16:25):
level, because that includesgovernors, it includes mayors
and major metropolitan areas.
They are complicit in thisbecause they have either done
nothing or they have encouragedthis type of behavior.
So I'm tired of it.
A lot of America is, and I'mnot trying to incite violence.
But it's the cat's out of thebag, folks.
(16:46):
You know you've got to.
Somebody's got to put a hardstop on this right now, or the
things that Elsa is talkingabout are going to come to
fruition and nobody wants that.
Nobody does out loud when youhave, you know, city
representatives I've heard saythe gangs are telling the
(17:08):
military not to come to Chicagoor it's going to be a fight like
that is unacceptable.
That, the fact that that isbeing said about the city of
Chicago and nothing is beingdone by the city of Chicago to
stop this, except to block thefederal troops from coming in,
allowing the gangs to do whatthey please, instead of
(17:32):
facilitating the dismantling ofthe gangs.
Right, the federal governmentnow is going after the cartels.
Good Right, we're OK with that.
Yes, but what we're not doingis preventing.
You know Jasmine Crockett, whocame out and said the other day
the police aren't there toprevent crimes, they're there to
solve crimes.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
No, she's an absolute moron.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
She's the dumbest person in office period, but.
But crime prevention preventsIrina from being murdered on a
train, right?
It stops that.
When you lambast people likeDaniel Penny for protecting
people, then you get five peoplesitting on a train doing
(18:14):
nothing Literally nothing,because we've bred a society
that is.
I'm not going to get involved,it's not my problem, I'm staying
away from that.
Yeah, people are at risk,averse for their own safety,
they're not willing to step inand protect another human being.
And it's shameful because it'sall led by our political
(18:37):
leadership of both parties, atevery single level.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
There are some exceptions out there, don't get
me wrong.
There is some great state-levelleadership, there's some great
federal level leadership, butdecades upon decades, upon
decades of both parties sittingthere and doing nothing and
letting it trickle down thistrail.
To now we've got a full bonfire.
All we need is the match, and Ihope that this Charlie Kirk
(19:06):
incident is not the match, butit very well may be.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I suspect the murder of Irina Zerutska was
probably the drawing of thematch out of the matchbook.
And now this with Charlie wasthe lighting of it.
And now it's a question of isit, you know, is that match
(19:33):
going to get blown out or is itgoing to get flicked and ignited
?
I don't know.
You know, and of course it's,it's these aren't just two
isolated incidents.
This is, you know, obviouslyyears.
But more specifically, over thepast several months, within the
(19:54):
past year, you know, it has beenhigh profile, horrific,
shocking, incident afterincident.
The first one that's coming tomind, well, of course, coming to
mind, well, of course, danielpenny.
Um, then you have austinmetcalf, who they still refuse
(20:15):
to release any kind of video,and again, it's not that I want
to see it, it's the fact thatthey're, they're high it, um,
and again, why?
Because it's black on whitecrime and they want to diffuse
that and pretend like it'ssomething else.
And of course we have this, andnow we have Charlie, and there
(20:36):
was a professor, female collegeprofessor, who was just murdered
in a park, Retired yeah, yes,retired, thank you.
Murdered in a park.
We're talking about horrific,violent crime, and those are
just the isolated high profileones.
(20:58):
Then you have all of thecitywide crime, rampant crime,
and a big part of that.
Again, of course, number one inmy mind, or at least tied with
them.
So number one, we have themainstream media and number two,
which is probably side by sidewith them, is these liberal
(21:20):
judges who you know, this pieceof garbage that killed Irina,
and, yes, I keep saying her nameand I'm not going to say the
murderer's name, because he's apiece of shit and he doesn't
even deserve to be named.
I don't care about his mentalhealth, by the way, I don't care
.
He was a is a cause.
(21:41):
He's still alive.
He has been let out 14 times.
He clearly stating the obvious.
Obviously he has mental healthissues which you know.
The system just ignored andsaid whatever, I'm sure it'll be
(22:02):
fine.
And here we are, here we are,and I believe, here we are, and
I believe, pam Bondi, they've,they're going for a federal
death penalty, they're going forthe death penalty.
So, good, good, I really.
I just, you know, do like to gothe least combative route, like
let's talk about this.
(22:22):
Let's work it out together,let's figure it out.
You have taken us and you havemade us feel so uncaring about
(22:44):
these people that you think arethe victims instead of the
actual victims.
So now, so now we've hit thatpoint and, like I said early on,
charlie Kirk man, he will bethe martyr for this, because he
is the one you're going to belooking to.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The conservative crowd is going to be looking to,
as you know, this young man, 31years old, beautiful, young,
family, christian, just a goodman like a good man,
self-educated, did not have anadvanced degree of any kind,
right, you know, he's a Chicagoarea kid, taught himself, you
(23:27):
know, studied the Bible, butstudied our history, studied our
politics.
Very, very well informed, wasbrilliant.
I would bet money that he hadan eidetic memory.
I had to.
I'm fairly confident with hisability to recall such deep
information, specific facts, torecall such deep information,
(23:49):
specific facts, and he was verygifted.
But he was also, you know, verykind in that he would have a
grown-up conversation withoutgetting animated.
He, you know, invited all ofthese people.
He knew he was at risk.
He had a security team.
He knew there was a risk everytime he went on these things and
(24:11):
yet he did it because he lovedthis country and he wanted to
see this country get better andhe wanted to have open discourse
and can't agree to disagree andtheir only solution is violence
(24:33):
.
Then you have days like today,and this is unfortunately where
we are right now and it'sshameful and it's scary,
truthfully.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, and let me tell you to anyone on the left,
using the and I've seen italready a few times, actually,
before Charlie Kirk was murdered, the whole, oh, the right is
going to use this, meaning thecase of Irina Zarutska.
You know they're going to usethis as as a weapon or as a tool
(25:12):
to enact their this and that,and they're saying the same
thing about charlie kirk'spassing, that it's going to be
used as a blah blah.
You know, let's pause for aminute and talk about all of the
things that you you scumbag,pieces of garbage have done in
the name of vigilantism orjustice, you know, social
justice and all of those things.
You burned down cities, you putaddicts, pieces of garbage,
(25:41):
felons, up on pedestals and madegold statues of them, and did
all of these things for forcriminals, for horrible human
beings, and you ignored peoplelike Irina and barely even
commented on her.
Only to.
You know, I mean, I'm going toput them up now and I have them
(26:03):
and I just, I just simply don'teven feel like it.
I have a whole bunch of snippetsof these posts, headlines from
the mainstream media, from Axios, which is a joke in itself CNN
and all of them, and just youknow framing this brutal murder
(26:24):
in such absurd terms, and it'syou know this is their tactic
that they do over and over again.
They downplay the atrocity andyou know they either victim
blame or they completelydisregard the victim and talk
about you know how society, thisand that.
So everybody is just so sickand tired of them.
(26:47):
And I am ready for, I am readyand fully encouraging strong,
swift action from our governmenton this, on the media,
especially them.
I want these scumbags shut downand I don't want free speech
shut down.
I want these media organ.
(27:08):
I don't care you're going topop up somewhere else anyhow,
but there needs to beaccountability for the lies that
they tell, the violence thatthey incite, the mental illness
that they encourage.
You know, with their rhetoricand their lies, the freaking
lies that they tell, lies thatthey tell and villainizing
(27:29):
people who are truly good humanslike Charlie Kirk.
And it is that rhetoric, it isthat nonstop barrage of BS that
is the dog whistle for thesefringe lunatics to act, and it's
it's.
Enough is enough.
I mean, enough is enough, we'redone.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, folks, this is, um, I think, uh, on behalf of
both of us, I think.
I think we're calling it.
I think 30 minutes is plenty totalk about this.
You guys, we will all know more, uh, when this airs.
I know that the the CharlieKirk shooter is still on the
loose.
I know that you're going to seeand hear a lot of things in the
(28:19):
next 24 hours.
You're going to see conspiracytheories from both sides.
You're going to see evidence,self-proclaimed.
You're going to see evidence,uh, you know, self-proclaimed.
You're going to see internetdetectiving going on.
You're going to see a lot ofthings come up, um, conspiracy
theories.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
You'll see the whole thing you're going to say this.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know you're going to see that this is
conservatives.
You know, sacrifice charlie fortheir gain.
You're going to see that.
You know um, liberals.
You know blah blah.
It's going to come from bothsides.
It's going to come fromeverywhere.
You're going to see that.
You know liberals.
You know, blah blah.
It's going to come from bothsides.
It's going to come fromeverywhere.
You're going to see everytheory in the world and I would
tell all of you to, just rightnow, I think what we all need to
(29:00):
do is breathe, because we arestanding there with a lit
matchstick and that's wherewe're at right now.
So don't take the bait is allI'm telling you.
That's my advice to everyone isdon't take the bait.
Love on your family, be happythat you have them and you know,
band together and let's prayfor brighter days coming in the
(29:24):
future.
But something's got to changeand I'm not even going to, I'm
not even going to sign off.
I'm just not even going to doit.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, I'm with you, clay.
You know it's funny.
I've been multiple times overthe past few days.
I keep seeing a couple of Bibleverses and for my Christian
family out there, you knowexactly how this happens that
you know.
For some reason, you don't knowwhat it is.
You keep seeing the same onesover and over again and you kind
of just store it away in yourmind.
(29:53):
And the two that have been onrepeat for me lately have been
guard your heart and minds inChrist Jesus, and the other is
to capture every thought inChrist, and I think I needed to
store those words away formyself as I emotionally navigate
(30:16):
all of this.
I am extremely upset.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
We are all.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We are all extremely upset.
So I agree with Clay this is agood time to call it for the day
, because I will probably I'mgetting close to saying a lot of
things that I will probablyregret saying.
So I echo Clay's sentimentthere Hold your family close and
(30:50):
try and keep calm, keepprayerful.
If you are the praying kind andspeak good to each other, all
right, and we will talk againnext week, and I pray that we
will have better things to sayto you next week.
There is so much good in theworld.
(31:12):
There really is.
It doesn't feel like it in thismoment when you hear this
barrage of all of the uglinessand the unfairness of it all,
but there is so much good out inthe world and if you, you know
this saying if you can't findthe good, be the good in the
world, and I think that's all wegot.
So we'll see you guys next week.
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