Clay and Elsa Dissect the Week's Biggest Headlines and Controversies

Clay and Elsa expose media manipulation tactics while addressing political violence, offering a balanced perspective on current events that challenge mainstream narratives.

• Debunking the falsely reported deportation of an MS-13 gang member with a valid deportation order from 2019
• Discussing the concerning rise in political violence from both sides, including the arson attack at Pennsylvania Governor's mansion 
• Presenting NTSB data showing aviation accidents have decreased, contrary to media portrayal
• Examining the Blue Origin all-female space mission and its inspirational potential despite celebrity focus
• Analyzing Megyn Kelly's criticism of Kristi Noem's appearance during ICE operations
• Breaking down Zelensky's unopposed 60 Minutes interview and its carefully crafted messaging
• Reviewing political accountability across military and government positions
• Celebrating achievements like Lt. Gabrielle White's historic completion of the Best Ranger Competition

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey friends, hey Clay , How's it going?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
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Got to jump out of the planeagain, so you know me, life's
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Absolutely.
Yeah, we're like kind oftapping out.
You know we're just crossingpaths here.
You just got back.
I leave tomorrow to go see mygrandbabies.
So yes, we both get a littleFlorida sunshine.
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I'm not.
I'm on the East Coast.
Here Our spring is, you know,it's a New England spring.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It is what it is.
Yeah, Midwest is holding weirdsixties, but I think by Friday
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So maybe maybe mother nature'scoming around.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Come on now.
She's got to do it for us.
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
We got a lot to talk about, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
So much, we're going to do it.
We're going to get through it,all Right.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Okay, All right, Well , we'll roll through it.
I think this will be a.
This will be a great show forthe audience.
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Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well then I mean, I just got caught looking at my
phone here, can you see?
No, no.
So I just tattletaled on myself.
I'm looking because, like oneof those breaking news things
came up.
And you know, anytime thathappens I'm like a trained, I'm
like pavlov's dog, you know, Isee breaking news, I'm like I
have to look at it.
They need to stop, because it'snot always breaking news, but
they do it because they knowpeople like me are gonna be like

(02:53):
what, um, I will, and nothingtoo dramatic okay yeah, nah but
no, that's a good prompt.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Tuesday yeah, 4.30 on the East Coast.
Tuesday is when we're recordingthis week.
Again, elsa's travelingtomorrow, so we're recording a
little bit early, but it'sTuesday.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And we are well aware so much could happen between
this moment and Thursday eveningwhen you guys watch the show.
So please don't come yelling atus in the comments.
Come on now, be kind, be kind,be kind.
We've got stuff to do, but wewant to also hang out with you
guys and share what's going onduring the past week.
So that's right.
I mean, that's kind of what itis.

(03:35):
We're kind of doing the reviewso you don't have to watch all
of the news and read all of thethings, like we're just wrapping
it all up in a clay and Elsabow for you.
He's knocking it out.
That's right.
That's right.
Oh, my goodness.
Well, we could start right offthe bat with this one.
This was a.

(03:57):
This one, boy, oh boy.
This one makes my blood boil.
I mean, what doesn't make myblood boil when it comes to
reading and watching mainstreammedia?
The alphabet stew of mediaorganizations that just take a
big fat lie and run with it.
And this is kind of woven inthroughout probably almost every
topic, right?
I mean, I'm looking at the sidehere with all our topics listed
and it's kind of a theme allaround.

(04:20):
So if you haven't heard anddepending, of course, where
you're hearing things from.
So, if you haven't heard, anddepending, of course, where
you're hearing things from,there was a false claim of a
Salvadorian migrant illegalalien mistakenly deported, which
has been loudly, clearly,emphatically debunked by the

(04:40):
Trump administration.
And I know that there arepeople who go oh well, the Trump
administration debunked it.
No, don't believe it.
I mean, we don't care what youbelieve or not, there is truth
and then there's your feelings.
This is the truth, right, andwe can have it right from what's
his name?
Stephen Miller, stephenMiller's mouth, right here.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Importation order that was valid, which meant that
under our law he's not evenallowed to be present in the
United States and had to bereturned because of the foreign
terrorist designation.
This issue was then by adistrict court judge, completely
inverted, and a district courtjudge tried to tell the
administration that they had tokidnap a citizen of El Salvador
and fly him back here.
That issue was raised to theSupreme Court and the Supreme
Court said the district courtorder was unlawful and its main

(05:20):
components were reversed 9-0unanimously, stating clearly
that neither secretary of statenor the president could be
compelled by anybody to forciblyretrieve a citizen of El
Salvador from El Salvador, whoagain is a member of MS-13.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So now, at the beginning of that, president
Trump was very President Trumpand calling out CNN and
basically, you know, I forgetexactly what he said, but the
nutshell of it is, oh, you're abunch of big fat liars and you
make stuff up, but you know,here's the truth for you.
And, um, yeah, and there was alot more to that.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Actually, if you need to see the whole clip, you can
find it very easily and he, youknow, really spelled out the
whole progression of of whathappened, right, yeah, and and
we talked about this verybriefly last week, but I mean,
that was a great, very, veryclear explanation and was a
little bit hard at the beginningto understand is that guy has

(06:11):
had a deportation order since2019.
Right, this is not likesomething that just happened
three months ago or just sincePresident Trump was elected.
That order has been in placethrough the entire Biden
administration until now, so itfinally got enforced.
And was he here on a green card?
Yes, or a visa?
Yes, he was here for at least aportion of the time, but he's

(06:36):
been on since 2019.
He has been on that deportationorder, which invalidates any
visa or any green card that hehad at the time.
So he's been here illegally forsix years and now it's time to
go and he's gone.
And you know this districtcourt and again, this is a trend
that's going on is these guysyou know they pretend they're
playing checks and balances as ajudiciary, which they're not

(06:57):
and and stepping in and saying,oh no, we got to bring this guy
back, we have to bring him backto running through the judicial
system here?
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Right and you know.
So the part that that reallyyanks my chain is when I look at
I go against my rules and Ilook in the comments section.
So I posted this video, alongwith my own little commentary,
on my social media platforms and, as expected, there were people
you know, illegal aliensympathizers jumping in the
commentators.
Well, you're completely wrongand that's not true at all and

(07:30):
you know the Trumpadministration is lying and that
whole thing is a lie.
So here's the thing this, the,the, the president of El
Salvador, el Salvador, wassitting there confirming all of
this.
You're going to tell me?
You're going to tell me he'swrong, like you know better.
You sitting on your couch withyour Cheetos I mean, I don't

(07:51):
know what you're doing really,but like, come on now, let's
just stop being stupid.
If you want a MS-13, these arerapist murderers.
They are truly evil, bad people.
If you want them to stay here,so bad, have them stay at your

(08:12):
house.
Not going to be my problem,come on now.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I mean designated as a terrorist
organization, right.
Right, because of the, theviolent criminal activity.
You know that's involved inwhat they do and this guy was
clearly a part of it, and youknow you're right.
There are people that will saythat this is, you know, this is
wrong and this is this and thisis that.
My bigger question on top ofall of this is this you know,

(08:38):
lower level judge, when you'reoverturned by the Supreme Court
9-0, not a single one of thosejudges dissented not one.
When you're overturned 9-0,there's a problem with that
judge.
Right, there should be somesort of judicial review process
for that individual that saysyou're clearly misinterpreting

(09:00):
the law.
When the entire Supreme Courtof the United States looks at
you and says it's not a 6-3,it's not even a 7-2 or even an
8-1, a 9-0, that guy, that judge, is a problem and there should
be some review process for thisbecause clearly, he or she and
I'm fairly confident it's a heis not interpreting the law, the

(09:21):
we would all expect a judge todo, right.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, and, by the way , the so Stephen Miller said
that the DOJ saboteur as hecalled them, that is essentially
like leaked this falseinformation to the media.
He's a Democrat aligned DOJlawyer.
He is now fired, he is gone,he's done.

(09:44):
Yeah, so they got rid of himand that's what needs to happen.
And I want to see if there's acriminal act, obviously if there
was something criminal.
But I'm tired of them justgetting a little bit of a spank
and sent on their way.
I'm really done with that and Ithink everybody is really done
with that.
We're really ready to see somemore consequence to the actions

(10:07):
of these people, and that goeshigh up on that chain as well as
low down.
Talking about these judges.
Enough already, enough, we'redone.
We're done with the BS.
It's time to have some seriousaccountability here on these
things.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, and Pam Bondi said it a couple of weeks ago
Listen, if you're an attorneygeneral and you are not fully in
support of the government ofthe United States, you work for
the Department of Justice, theAttorney General's office you're
going to get fired.
That's all there is to it.
And for those of you thataren't tracking, this goes
beyond just DOJ and Secretary ofState and those kinds of things
.
So the uh, the commander of theU S base in Greenland, female

(10:48):
Colonel from the space force, umyeah.
So she refused to.
In every you know military unitin the country and around the
world U S military unit, it hasa board on the wall that has the
chain of command starts withthe president, goes to the SEC,
goes to the service secretary,goes to the you know the chief
of staff of that serviceprobably has a chairman on there

(11:09):
, and then all the way down towhatever local level you've got
the commander refused to put thepresident on the chain of
command board, refused to putthe secretary of defense on the
chain of command board, theirphotos and then, in the wake of
Vice President Vance's visit toGreenland, she was sending out

(11:31):
emails to local partners, topeople, I think, within the NATO
chain of command andspecifically, you know, local
politicians or national levelpoliticians in Greenland saying
don't worry about anything thathe says, you know, basically
usurping everything about it.
They fired her.
She has been relieved ofcommand, which is good and

(11:54):
that's the way that it should beOne.
You know military officersshould be apolitical apolitical
a hundred percent because youhave a chain of command that
changes every few years.
So you remain apolitical,purposefully.
But two, that's treason.
Oh, by the way, when you'reinsubordinate to the president
of the United States and thevice president of the United

(12:14):
States and the secretary ofdefense, you cannot expect
anybody who serves under you tonot also be insubordinate to you
.
There's no way that you canenforce that level of discipline
.
So they fired her appropriately.
So so these kinds of things arespanning beyond, just, you know
, the civilian side of themilitary or the civilian side of
the government, right?
So, um, you know, like you saidthat, uh, whoever that saboteur

(12:36):
I love that word.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I love that word too.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Whoever that was got fired appropriately, so.
But you're starting to seethose things around the, you
know, across all, all facets ofthe government, which is a good
thing.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yes, it is Just out of curiosity, randomly, what
happens when somebody isrelieved of their duties like
that.
If you're on your job, I guessyou can contest it.
Does that ever happen?
Or they just generally?
Is there a resource for them?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, there's a series of review boards.
So usually what happens isthere's a suspension, there's an
investigation and then there'sa series of review boards.
So usually what happens isthere's a suspension, there's an
investigation and then there's,you know, a relief for cause
and then your evaluationbasically says you have been
relieved for whatever reason.
They determine it is throughthe investigation.
But at that point, especiallyat a senior level, they will

(13:21):
actually go through a review ofyour conduct of service.
So if they think it's severeenough, like her conduct was
severe enough, they could goback and actually prosecute her
under Uniform Code of MilitaryJustice, reduce her in rank.
Potentially there's a lot ofrecourse that could happen in

(13:42):
there for her.
Probably what will happen isshe was fired, she will get you
know, retired immediately and besent away and she'll be done.
Her career is over with one wayor the other.
But she may just, you know, bepacking her bags and really on
her way home from Greenland, youknow, probably stop by
Washington DC to sign out andthen go into her civilian life.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Washington DC to sign out and then go into her
civilian life.
Wow, well, it is great acrossthe board to see the
consequences to the actions.
I mean you're seeing it with.
You know everything fromcollege universities that are
refusing to, you know, changetheir DEI policies and all of
those things.
You're seeing the consequences.
You know funding being withheldand these, of course, all of
those things.
You're seeing the consequences.
You know funding being withheldand these, of course, these

(14:31):
judges and military leaders thatare not toeing the line and
doing their damn job.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean, there's another one yeah, I'm guilty of
looking at my phone too.
Top advisor to Secretary Hagsat Dan Caldwell, placed on
administrative leave byDepartment of Defense for
unauthorized disclosure ofinformation amid an
investigation into pentagonleaks oh, so again same thing.
So he leaked information and Idon't know exactly what it is

(14:54):
looks like he, you know he letsome people know some things
they weren't supposed to knowand now he's been put on
administrative leave and he willprobably be.
Um, yeah, national securityinformation, you know, know,
blah, blah, blah.
So listen they're.
They're holding folksaccountable pretty quick, like
yes.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And with this administration in particular,
because there are so many badactors who try and sneak their
way in or have already snucktheir way in, that they have to
be rooted out.
You know, essentiallyimmediately, because they, you
know, are that word that we likeagain, so many saboteurs that
want this administration to fail.

(15:31):
And you know what a disgracethat, at the sake of your
country.
It's just mind blowing to meand disgusting, and I'd love to
see them all locked up for it.
It's treason, it's traitorous,it's disgusting and unacceptable
.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
And so we've got, unfortunately, on both sides of
the aisle.
Shifting to a new topic, we'vegot some political violence
going on and again, you and Ihave talked about this multiple
times there's no excuse for thisin any way, shape or form.
Whether you look at the Teslastuff with Musk, no matter what
it is, there's an uptick inpolitical violence and we had a

(16:11):
bit of it the other night inPennsylvania.
Yeah, for those of you thathaven't seen this, the man
arrested his name is Cody Balmer.
He's 38 years old, fromHarrisburg, pa, but he jumped
the fence to the governor'smansion in Pennsylvania, made
some homemade incendiary devicesand while governor Shapiro and
his family were in the residence, he lit the place on fire and

(16:37):
there is some serious damage tothe dining room.
There's a piano, the section ofthe house.
Thankfully, the Harrisburg FireDepartment was spot on and they
had it together.
They saved the rest of themansion, but millions of dollars
of damage and they arrestedthis guy.
They don't quote, unquote, theydon't know his motivation, but

(17:01):
listen, you jump in.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, his motivation was.
He said I hate the guy.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Now the fear, though, is Governor Shapiro is Jewish,
and it was the first night of aholiday, right, so it could be a
hate crime.
In that sense, they think it'smore politically motivated, but
it could be either or or, itcould be both, but regardless,
folks, we've been talking aboutthis for months now.
This kind of stuff, therhetoric from all of our

(17:26):
leadership's got to stop,because that's what motivates
this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, and again, disgraceful to me and such a sad
reflection of the times in theworld that we're in the
assassination attempt ofPresident Trump well, he wasn't
president yet at that time.
Two, two attempts that shouldhave been.
We talk about this often on thepodcast because it is such a

(18:06):
prevalent issue the mentalhealth, a decline of mental
health in people that is fueledby media, by the politicians,
all of these things and that areleading these people to believe
that it's okay to do thesethings, because they kind of
believe they have this freereign to go buck wild, because

(18:27):
that's what they've been doingfor so long now.
But still, really, shame onthem, shame on the media and
that's such a weak term.
I mean it's more than shame onthere.
It's so bad, it's criminal whatthey're doing and they're
inciting in people.
And, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, listen, folks, this is most likely.
If it's not a crime related toGovernor Shapiro being Jewish,
then this is a political crime,conservative against a liberal.
He's a democratic governor, soit is a politically motivated
crime, right?
You know, this is not Elsa andI bashing this is, you know, one

(19:09):
side.
This is a conservative.
Right?
This is wrong.
I don't care what color it is,red or blue, I don't care if
you're an elephant or a donkey.
It's wrong.
Right, but it's the.
It's the narratives that areout there.
And there was a young man tooname not released, I don't think
, because he's 17, who, I don'tknow, if you saw this, killed
his parents.
Yes, part of a potentialassassin, and I don't know how

(19:30):
it's all interwoven, but apotential assassination plot
against President Trump.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Listen, people don't, you know.
Some people do come up withthese ideas just out of some
craziness, but you knoweverything that's out there,
whether it's by politicalleadership or whether it's by
the, you know, the media.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
this stuff's got to stop, I mean just the narratives
, that all of the rhetoric hasjust got to come to an end.
Yeah, yeah, and it's soorchestrated.
You know the, the phrasing, theterms that they use.
And you know some people peoplewith you know the phrasing, the
terms that they use.
You know, some people with youknow much more ability and time
on their hands than we have havemade these compilations of
these videos of these leadersand media personalities

(20:16):
repeating the same mantras overand over again, which is, you
know, fight, we don't let themrest.
You know, don't, don't backdown.
We have to fight, we have tofight, and it's, it's this.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, interrupt their dinners, you know, stop them in
the street, all of these things, and they are literally calling
for violence.
They are.
It's their dog whistle formental, mentally ill people who
are, who perk right up at thatand think they're being spoken
directly to like, oh, you wantme to go, do that?

(20:48):
Okay, and there they go, andthere's a lot more under.
That's such a bland way ofreally saying what's going on.
We know that actually runs alot deeper than that.
We've loosely talked about theCIA and some of the things
they've done with the pastassassination attempts and it's
a ugly, scary, underbelly forsure, and we're all suffering

(21:10):
for it, like we're all payingthe price of that.
You know, and this is, ofcourse, just another example and
I'm so glad, clay, that you,you know, pointed that out,
because a lot of times, becausewe are a conservative show
people will make people on theleft in particular, will make
the assumption that we don'thold the right to the same
standard, to which we'd say BS.

(21:31):
We absolutely do.
It's, it's unacceptable, nomatter what side of the aisle
you're on.
Um, resorting to violence isnever, never, okay at all.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
No, that's not how our process works and, yes, it's
become way too commonplace in anumber of ways and for a number
of reasons, incited by a numberof people, and it's all got to
stop because we're probably weare approaching a tipping point
where it's going to escalate tothe point where we can't stop it
or won't stop it, and that's,you know, that'll be the

(22:09):
downfall of this whole thing.
I don't know how far away thatis, but we've got to get things
under control now, before itgets high end.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaking of things that seem tobe out of control, clay.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Listen, I owe you on this one, I do so.
Folks, I fell victim to all thestuff that we're talking about
Right.
Everything in the in themainstream media has painted
this awful picture aboutaircraft accidents, you know in
the United States, and howthey're out of control, and you
know there's massive numbers andit just feels that way.

(22:42):
Right, we had a helicoptercrash in Hudson, you know, and
et cetera, et cetera, and I waslike man, what is going on with
all of this?
My girl saved me, right?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Elsa posted just yesterday or yeah, let me take
the banner off of there.
There we go.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
These are the numbers of aircraft plane accidents by
calendar year from the NTSB.
We're not making this up.
This is the NationalTransportation Safety Board.
Right, look at the number weare down.
I don't know how everybody.
You felt the same way too,though, didn't you Like?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
absolutely, absolutely.
It felt like.
It feels like every time youturn around, a plane or a
helicopter is crashing orthere's some critical, scary,
dangerous, terrifying incidentthat happens and crisis real
crisis is averted.
But yeah, I have felt likeevery time you turn on the news,

(23:40):
there is a new accident andsomething is going on right,
like that's what they keep,that's the line they get.
Something's going on.
You know what is it?
No, it's the fact that thereare.
You know?
I don't know that.
I wish I did know the number ofhow many flights collectively
there are in a day's time, youknow?
So you have these likestatistical probabilities of

(24:03):
what's going to happen.
And, no matter what, at the endof the day it's always that
automobile access.
Not that we want to make anyonescared of anything.
I mean, life is just life.
Human error is just human error.
Weather is just weather.
Things can happen because lifeis life right, happen because

(24:25):
life is life Right.
But, yeah, but the perceptionhas been that this has been
something that is out of controland something must be done.
Like what are you going toground all the flights we all
got to?
You know?
Walk, because everything isdangerous.
No, here is, you know.
Here's some proof that it's.
It is no worse, certainly, andit's obviously less bad than
it's been so crazy right.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, and so I again.
You know, don't believeeverything you hear.
That's a great right, All theproofs right there.
Don't believe what you hear.
Do your research, do yourhomework.
I fell victim to it, but thatpicture was definitely painted
across all of the media outletsand social media to make you
feel like there's been thismassive uptick in aviation

(25:06):
accidents since President Trumptook over.
Truthfully and really there'sbeen a fairly significant
downturn, which is good to know.
But yeah statistically, it'sstill much more dangerous to
drive a car than it is to get inan airplane Right.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
And that's not to downplay the, the incident and
the loss of life.
I mean really really tragic,crazy accidents, the, the the
Hudson River helicopter crash,that one that went to me
watching that video was soshocking in that like it fell

(25:44):
apart like a toy right, like thetail fell off, the back end
fell off, the rotor came flyingoff, like it just broke apart
like a child's toy and that, tome, was so horrifying to even
imagine.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, um, you know, having spent, having spent
hundreds of hours riding aroundin helicopters and not and not a
pilot at all.
I'm just spent a lot of timebeing a passenger, you know, and
having a lot of good friendswho are pilots, you know they're
.
They're a freak of nature Likeyou.
You can, you can show me allthe physics and all the math and

(26:22):
everything else, and I loveriding in them.
But you know, the thing about ahelicopter is, while it's in the
air, if something goes wrongwith those two moving rotors,
the top and then the tail, youknow, if something goes wrong
with one of those two, thepotential for a rotor to hit
another part of the aircraft isfairly significant.

(26:45):
So that's when you start havingthings like what you said,
which is, you know, when itstrikes the other, the tail of
the aircraft, and then theaircraft breaks apart, like
those kinds of things.
Yeah, it's not like a jet, youknow airliner, where an engine
is enclosed and you know, maybeit's on fire, but generally, you
know you don't have partsflying out, kind of thing.
So but anyway it's, it's betterthan it seems.

(27:08):
Folks Don't be swayed by themedia.
It is better than it seems, forsure.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Let me tell you, yeah , and you know, of course, the
it it did.
I don't want to say it freakedme out, because it feels kind of
absurd to freak out overanything really at this point,
right, but yeah, I mean, I candefinitely admit, you know,
getting ready to fly outtomorrow, and you know I travel
every month to go see thegrandkids and you know, yes, the

(27:33):
more you travel, the moreyou're the right, the the odds
start to stack against you, youknow.
So, yeah, it does get in yourhead a bit, but then the flip
side of it is they just have to,you have to live, you have to
do the things that you do, and,and you can't, you can't um
function in fear of everything.
You can acknowledge it, thatit's there and that that it's

(27:53):
real, um, but don't, don't letit stop you.
And, and I and I think reallylike the biggest lesson really
is is the one you said, clay,like, don't believe everything.
You requestion everything.
Do your own research, and thatincludes when you listen to us.
Don't take everything we haveto say as the letter of the law.

(28:14):
Go look it up, question it,doubt it and then come back and
tell us that we were right.
Make sure you do that, Okay.
But yeah, you know, you justyou have to.
And now with Clay and I talkedit off air a little bit and I
think we mentioned it even lastweek, talked a little bit about
AI chat.
For me, chat GPT especially, inparticular, that's.

(28:35):
That's kind of the one I go tofor stuff.
But you know, learn how to useit, learn how to input prompts
and questions and get theanswers.
It can find them in seconds,seconds, mere seconds.
You can get the answers to yourquestions and you know, and a
little segue, you can also doreally fun things with with chat

(28:55):
GPT, like this I mean, come on,how cute is that?
And yes, you guys are going toask I know in the comments
you're going to say why is therea dog there?
You guys don't have a dog onthis show.
It's because I think my chatGPT got so sick and tired of me
repeatedly asking it forrefinements, like number one.
I wanted that sucker to make myface a little thinner.

(29:17):
I mean rude, but it got tiredof me and it put this dog in.
So now we have a dog mascot, Idon't know.
So, yes, so you can.
Actually, you know you can useit for really useful things, Um,
or you can just have some funwith it.
I, I can promise you I use itfor incredibly useful thing.
I have a million in onequestions a day that I must have

(29:41):
the answer to, and so you know,if I ever showed you the like,
a screenshot of my, I actuallyhave a, a folder, a prompt
folder, called random questions,and I asked chat GPT a million
random questions a day and Ineed it all explained.
I tell it to bullet point theanswer for me, you know.
So, just in case one personever asks me, I will have all of

(30:04):
this information.
So, yes, long winded way ofsaying.
Oh, don't believe everything.
You read just or hear, or reador see.
Find out for yourself, right?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
But is it?
But is it safe to travel 11minutes into space?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
And oh, my goodness, oh, I have so many feelings
about this Clay, so manyfeelings.
So I mean, first, right off thebat, I know I have the picture,
here we go.
We got the picture.
Here is the crew of Blue Origin, the all-female crew of Blue

(30:38):
Origin origin, um Gail King, uh,what's her name?
Lauren Sanchez, Katie Perry and, um, I don't know who everybody
else is at, the two people orwho is that other person?
I know?
Two people on there are theactual rock stars of this whole
thing operated the space.
Yeah, the actual people with theactual qualifications which are

(31:00):
really, really impressive.
I'll find them and and, um,I'll tell you what they are.
But, um, the whole thing is isokay.
Again, mixed feelings on this.
So some cool things about it.
Um, it is the first of its kindsince Valentina Tereshkova's I
think I just got that rightTereshkova's solo mission in
1963.

(31:21):
For that alone very exciting,very cool and it's right.
Let's see what else.
So the crew members let me justtalk about the crew members.
Aisha Bowe she's a BahamianAmerican aerospace engineer and
former NASA rocket scientist.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
She's awesome, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Come on.
She's the founder and CEO ofSTEM Board.
It's a tech company focused onSTEM education.
She's received multiple awardsfor her contributions to
aerospace engineering and heradvocacy for underrepresented
communities in STEM.
So hello right.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
She's a civil rights activist, nobel Peace Prize
nominee, founder of RISE, anonprofit organization that
advocates for the rights ofsexual assault survivors.
She has passed, or she was asignificant part in the passage
of the Sexual Assault Survivors'Rights Act.
Um, these are very accomplished, amazing, fascinating women who

(32:25):
, in my opinion, should havereally been put front of stage
for this.
You know, um, that would havebeen nice.
Now the flip side, and I thinkI'm going to take a spin that
maybe, maybe wouldn't expect, ormaybe people watching wouldn't
expect I at first was rolling myeyes in contempt and annoyance
about the celebrity factor, inparticular Katy Perry.

(32:47):
Um, and really, just like, comeon, you know, we're going to
like glam this all up and makethis some you know, kind of
silly thing that you're doing.
And then I really I paused and Igave it some more thought and I
was like you know what thereality in this world is?
That young girls are notwatching women like Aisha Bowe

(33:11):
on television and buying herbooks and doing that.
They are watching people likeKaty Perry and they are admiring
them and looking up to them.
And you know, you're I mean, Idon't know so much about Gayle
King and Lauren Sanchez.
But they have celebrity youngpeople.
Young girls like celebrity.

(33:32):
So if they're going into spaceand doing this whole thing gets
a young girl to say you knowwhat?
I would like to go into space,let me figure, let me find out
how I could get, take the stepsto beance by the theatrics and
the show, you know.
So we talked before about KatyPerry.

(33:54):
What'd she do?
Again, she did somethingobnoxious.
You said something about herwith like a daisy or something
Like a daisy holding up to thesky 11 minutes of suborbital
flight.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
You know she came out and she kissed Mother Earth.
You know when she got back onthe ground.
Listen.
I'm, you know, for all of thosefolks out there, the thing that
irritates me is that, with allof the you know, attention that
this thing has gotten, what waslost in the media was an amazing
accomplishment by an amazingyoung woman.

(34:35):
This past weekend was somethingcalled the Best Ranger
Competition, held down at FortBenning, georgia.
I think this is like the 41stor 42nd year they've been doing
this and, for those that aren'tfamiliar, this is a competition
for two-person teams that goesfor about 72 hours and it is
absolutely grueling.
This is like ultimate race, youknow, like super ultra marathon

(34:59):
kind of stuff over three days.
It is obstacle courses, it'sjumping out of planes, it's
swimming, it's running, it'scarrying a heavy pack, it's, you
know, navigating at night, it'sshooting, it's all of these
amazing things and it's nonstop.
Very few breaks over 72 hours.
Ok, 52 two person teams startedthis 52.

(35:20):
When Sunday morning rolledaround between teams that had
quit or teams that had fallen sofar out of competition, they
cut it down to 16.
Okay, and 16, 16 teams made itthrough Sunday morning.
It's kind of like golf, right,but you know, 16 teams finished
the 14th plate.
And listen, finishing alone isan incredible achievement.

(35:41):
The 14th place team had thevery first female competitor to
ever compete and she finished.
And her name is LieutenantGabrielle white.
She's stationed at Fort Benning, georgia, and that, right there
.
The fact that she finished notthat she even started or
competed is amazing.
Her level of physical fitnessshe could take and everybody's

(36:03):
talking about Hegseth and SecDefand doing PT with units she
would drag him through the mudLike she.
He couldn't keep up with her ifhe tried.
Right so that, that, rightthere.
That's the story that should bein the news.
Truth, sorry.
If you want a greataccomplishment by a great female
, that's the one.
Uh, gabrielle white best rangercompetition 2025, fort Benning,

(36:23):
georgia.
Look it up.
Um, she is an amazing humanbeing.
My hat's off to her.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's awesome.
That's so cool.
Yeah, and if, if you knowanybody's like me, I know plenty
of you've been out there andyou did that warrior dash or I
think there's like a couple.
There's a whole bunch of otherones.
That's the one.
I did many years, yeah, all ofthose things.
Take that, put it on steroids,multiply it by a thousand and
maybe you know so, yeah, so,comparing those things is crazy,

(36:53):
crazy, crazy.
Yeah, there, you know, I meanagain, super cool for them.
Uh, you know what a wonderfulexperience that they got to have
.
Um, you know, happy for them,happy that they yeah, oh, my
goodness, you weren't kidding.
Um you know, yeah, yeah, I meanhappy that, um, that, something

(37:14):
like this, you know, even done,very cool and all that.
Just, I don't know Certainaspects, I just kind of wish
they were different.
But if we were in a differentworld maybe they would be
different and the focus wouldhave been put otherwise.
But because we are asuperficial society myself
included, by the way, I'm notknocking anybody.

(37:36):
I mean, I don't come on thisshow or make my videos without
you know, without my hair doneand some makeup on all those
things.
So I totally get you know,cause I know there was a lot of
criticism over the, the, thevery tailored, styled space
suits, to make sure, everybodyin the glam picture there we saw
the glam picture, we'll look atit again you know, know,
everybody's got full makeupairbrushed.

(37:57):
You know, form-fitting suitsposed perfectly all that stuff.
But again, the flip side ofthat is well, what do you want
them to do?
Everybody just sit back, youknow, and kind of like slouch
back in the baggy.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
You know, whatever it is what it is, I mean,
evidently you can take it toofar and and what you can do is
you can piss off megan ke andshe can turn all girls on Kristi
Noem, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, my girl Meg, our girl Meg you love her too,
right.
Yeah, I am a fan, I am a hugefan and I actually it kind of
like it made me like break outin a little bit of sweat to
criticize her really, but itreally didn't sit right.
So we do have it.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
So here's what she said Ice agent, and she, of
course, is doing it with like 25pounds of hair, only to be
outdone by her 30 pounds ofmakeup and false eyelashes.
There's no false eyelashes onan ice raid.
Stop trying to glamorize themission and put yourself in the
middle of it as you cosplay iceagent, which you're not.

(38:59):
I can't stand these photo ops,you guys.
I think they diminish ICE.
They diminish DHS CPB.
She's not an agent.
She is an administrative policyperson appointed by Trump
because she was very loyal tohim.
Fine, but stop with the glam.
I mean, she looks like I lookright now, but she's out in the

(39:20):
field with her gun, being likewe're going to go kick some ass.
No one wants you there.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So I mean, you know.
So, in in the full clip, Meganacknowledged, agreed and seemed
to believe that Kristi Noem isdoing a great job at her job.
What she took offense to wasthe glam, the full makeup, the

(39:50):
hair, the, this, the that, theall of the things.
And that was the part that Iand apparently a lot of other
people were like hang on, holdup, is this what we're doing?
Is this what we're doing?
We're going after each other'slooks, now Like come on, come on
, why do you care if she's infull makeup, why do you care if

(40:10):
she's got extensions, if she'sgot lashes on all of those
things?
I am personally againstattacking women, attacking other
women for their appearances,and I know somebody's going to
jump in and say hang on, youmake fun of Kamala Harris all
the time.
That was like part of your bigshtick.
For as long as she was in office, I made fun of her job

(40:30):
performance.
I didn't make fun of her laugh.
I made fun of the fact that shelaughed inappropriately at
things.
Just because I can copy the waythat she laughs.
I don't know what you want fromme.
I apparently I laugh like thatanyhow, according to other
people.
So you know it's the whole.
It didn't make sense, right,clay it, it's so you're okay

(40:55):
with her.
Your your job performance right, clay it, it's so you're okay
with her.
Your your job performance checkyou're doing great, but I don't
.
I'm gonna go after you becauseI don't like the way you look is
kind of what it came down to.
You know she's mad about thephoto ops how do you feel about?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
it.
It was very.
You know you, I said thisbefore and you kind of laughed
at me.
It was very.
You know, on wednesday you'repink, oh it's okay, coolness, so
we'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
On wednesdays, we wear pink.
It was very.
You know, on Wednesdays we wearpink.
Oh, it's okay, coolness, sowe'll see you tomorrow.
On Wednesdays, we wear pink.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
It was very mean girls.
I love that.
You said that I have a coupleof daughters.
Yeah, you know it's like that.
I did that.
But you know, the reality issome of the things that Megan
said were true.
Okay, and, as somebody who'sbeen both a commander and you
know, and at that level ofexecution, a boss at the wrong

(41:40):
place, the wrong time can bevery disruptive to an operation.
Ok, you know, anytime she showsup that there is a level of
distraction that comes with itbecause, because she is the boss
, right, the photo op is there.
You know, you know those thosekinds of things can be
disruptive.
But I'm willing to bet thatwhatever she did, whenever that

(42:03):
was taken, whenever that wasfilmed it was either well before
or well after an operation wascomplete she was not standing
outside of a house that theywere about to kick the door in
and filming that thing.
That's not how that happened.
I know a lot of people wentafter Kristi Noem because she
was standing there, kind of aport arms kind of a thing, and
people are like, oh well, she'spointing the barrel at the guy

(42:25):
next to her.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Listen, anybody who's been inthe military and stood in
formation with weapons.
We do that stuff all the time.
If the chamber's clear and wedo all the normal safety stuff,
it is what it is.
But so people are going to findreasons to pick at her.
Here's reality.
She's there like she's actuallythere.
She's on the scene, she is.

(42:47):
Is she providing tacticaloversight?
No, but her being there makesit important, makes it important
to the agents.
It makes them feel supported.
Right, yeah, hey, we, hey,we're about.
You know, we, we just ran anoperation or we're about to run
an operation, and the boss ishere Like that's a big deal, and
sure Is there a level of likeman, I wish you know if some

(43:08):
agent was, if this is like thefourth time that some guy or gal
has been on an operation andlike, oh, christy Noem's here
again.
They're like, oh, my God, wouldshe just go back to the office.
But for most folks it's a goodthing.
Commanders have a responsibilityto advocate for their
organization, which is exactlywhat she's doing.
She's advocating for all ofthose agents.

(43:31):
She is standing up there andtalking about what a great job
they're doing, how dangerous itis and what they're doing on
behalf of the nation.
So, megyn Kelly being the meangirl that she can be and this is
clearly a case and again, I'mnormally a fan.
She's wrong on this.
You know she to go after, youknow Kristi Noem for her looks
is bad enough, but to notunderstand what Kristi Noem's

(43:54):
role is in all of this and howshe's doing that.
Understand what Kristi Noem'srole is in all of this and how
she's doing that For somebodywho's been in the media as long
as Megyn Kelly has been.
She really, really blew theanalysis on this, because she
should know that that's what anadministrator at that level does
you advocate for yourorganization and that's what
she's doing.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, yeah and by all accounts, that I have ever
heard about Kristi Noem that sheis, that she is an incredibly
hard worker, full, all in ineverything that she does.
She is hands on.
You know I have.
There are comments in the videoI posted about about this whole
thing, with my own littlecommentary on it.

(44:32):
There are numerous comments inthere of people from her state
saying, listen, Kristi Noem isthe real deal, that girl, she
knows how to handle a gun, noproblem, she's a rancher.
Was she a rancher?
I think she's a rancher.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah Horses, yeah Horses.
Back all that, yes.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
So she is in in many ways, in her element.
She is doing exactly what she'salways done.
This isn't new.
She's not just trying to, youknow, get some screen time.
But yes, I mean absolutely, ifyou look at it, you know, with a
different lens.
These photo ops as they are, Imean they are photo ops and

(45:11):
that's okay, because we, as thepublic, actually need to see,
see, we want to see that you'reout there, that you're that
there, things are happening.
This is a way to do it.
Are you glossing it up andmaking it look really really
good?
Yes, and I'm fine with that.
Kristi Noem is a beautiful womanand she's an absolute badass
and legitimately she earned thattitle.

(45:32):
It's not just because she'sstanding in a picture, you know,
holding a gun and, um, you knowhanging out with, with ice and
with border patrol and doingthose things.
It's because she's a legitimatebadass in her own right.
I will always have, you knowthat, that, that twinge, that
Twitch, um, when I think abouther book, with the whole dog
thing.
I know people have held thatagainst her.

(45:53):
From that moment on Um Neverreally going to be fully okay
with that.
It's a different life, adifferent world, one that I
certainly don't understand.
That is what it is.
But if we're playing fair, theway we should be, the only
question should be is she doingher job well?
And if the answer is yes,nothing else matters.

(46:16):
She can wear all the makeup shewants, or none of the makeup, I
don't care.
Same thing we can say aboutTrump.
I don't care if he doesn't havethe most charming personality
or say things in the right way.
Is he doing his job?
Yes, don't care.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
You know, yeah and and oh.
By the way, if you haven't seenthe um, bill Maher, do his wrap
up of his visit to the whitehouse, he talked how the person
that we see in public and youand I have said this multiple
times the person we see inpublic out of president Trump is
not the person that he haddinner with.
And we all know that a lot ofit is an act, we all know that

(46:53):
it is purposeful in what he doesand what he says.
This is very much, very muchthe same thing, right, and we
just had another example of it60 minutes on Sunday night,
right, 60 minutes stuck amicrophone in front of Zelinsky,
you know, and they had him onfor a good.
A good, it was probably a good10 minute interview, a good, it
was probably a good 10 minuteinterview, um.

(47:15):
And so it was unopposed, it wasuncontested Um, and it allowed
him, you know, in his combatt-shirt right.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Right Another image guy Right Um.
You know why aren't we goingafter him for that?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Well, I'm pretty sure she probably has gone after him
.
But yeah, but you know, he samething, right, he's there and
he's getting interviewed by 60minutes and it was his
opportunity to change or atleast be uninterrupted in his
messaging for the narrative onbehalf of, you know, his effort
within the Ukraine.
You know he did put some doubtin there on whether or not the U

(47:51):
?
S, you know, does support himand will continue to support
Ukraine.
He said, oh, I think the peopleof the United States support
Ukraine.
I'm not sure about thepresident or I'm not sure about
the administration.
He did say that the chances ofUkraine winning the war against
Russia without United Statessupport is pretty much gone.

(48:11):
But there are someidiosyncrasies into what he said
that are definitely messagingon behalf of Ukraine.
And so we've talked about, youknow, that Putin wants a buffer,
right, he wants a bufferbetween Russia and NATO.
That's the whole reason thisstuff is going on.
The way Zelensky played, thatwas, you know, putin attacked in

(48:35):
the Ukraine so that he couldpush the border of Russia right
up on NATO's doorstep, rightAgain, it's very different
perspective on the same problem,you know right, you know it's
not.
He's not trying to.
You know you could argue he'snot trying to make Ukraine part
of Russia, he's trying to putUkraine under the control of
Russia, just as a buffer.

(48:56):
But but again, zelensky playsit as, oh, he's trying to expand
Russia right up to NATO'sdoorstep.
And 60 Minutes being CBS product, they played into everything
and made President Trump andVice President Vance, they
played clips from the WhiteHouse visit and those sorts of
things, and Zelensky madecomments about oh well, you

(49:19):
can't trust Putin.
Remember, we've had all theseconditional ceasefires and blah,
blah, blah, blah, and Putinhasn't bided by any of them.
Well, there's only been one,and it was on energy
infrastructure, and other thanthe strike that happened within
hours, I don't think there'sbeen any more strikes on energy
infrastructure, so don't quoteme on that.
I couldn't be wrong.
But again, you know, this wasall about Zelensky having a

(49:41):
microphone in his face and beingable to say whatever he wanted
to a media outlet that was goingto do nothing.
But you know, kiss his ass.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Right, right, oh yeah , no question about it and no
surprise based on, you know,everything we've seen from from
the media.
I just I feel like we couldjust do like a month long
episode of nonstop talking aboutall of the things that the the
media does to manipulate people.
It's just so crazy.

(50:08):
And, of course, uh, trumpresponded to it.
Uh, you know, basically accusedCBS of spreading fake news and,
uh, threatening to revoke itslicense, which really sent
everyone into a tizzy.
Of course, yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah, what's her name that's on 60 Minutes is guilty.
She should have had her licenserevoked anyway.
Yeah, she's.
I mean, they're, they're,they're as guilty as anybody,
that network specifically.
So yeah, no big surprise there,I'm waiting though.
So, yeah, no big surprise there, I'm waiting though.
You know, we've got, we've gotour President Trump just had his
, he just had his physical, andI'm waiting for that.
Yes, I'm waiting for the mediaspin on this.

(50:45):
I'm waiting for it.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, they don't.
I mean there's like there'slike nothing to say about it.
Really, I mean they would haveto make something up.
I mean not that they would evermake anything up, because you
know they're so honest theywould never.
Yeah, no, you know, very cleanbetter than clean bill of health
.
He talked about himself lookinggreat.

(51:07):
By the way, I think he looks.
I think he looks great rightnow he's.
He's looks like he lost alittle bit of weight.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Am I?
Am I making things up?
Do you think he looked like helost a little weight?
I think he does, but I thinkthat's, you know, part of the
job, as you, everyone, everybodygets engaged in that job, Um
and and.
So for him, I think it's weightloss will be part of the.
You know the stress and thepace of the job.
We all know he doesn't sleepanyway, but I think there's
probably more physical activitythan he's used to.

(51:35):
I think there's probably, youknow, probably a better diet.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Sure, Truthfully, and his McDonald's.
Come on, Let the man have hisMcDonald's.
Isn't Bobby Kennedy going toclean that all up?
Get rid of the, get rid of theseed oils and give everybody
back their beef tallow.
So our fries are deliciousagain.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
But you know what I'm waiting for?
Truth, truthfully, is the, youknow, the media with the
absolute massive hypocrisy.
Right Democrats with themassive hypocrisy to go.
Well, you know, they said Bidenwas in perfect health too.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Right, yeah, that you're.
You know.
I bet you're right that ifthey're going to take an angle
on this, that would be the one.
Oh, oh, you accuse us of sayingyou know we lied about Biden,
but how do we know that you'renot lying?
Yeah, well, because ourpresident is out there every
single day in front of cameras,traveling from state to state,

(52:29):
golfing the next day, sleepingthree hours, jumping on a plane,
like the man never stops, andhe does it all in the public eye
.
Right, he's a machine everysingle bit.
So, uh, one thing that there isa lot of speculation over and I
don't think, uh, steve bannonhelped at all with that is that
he's going to try and run for athird term.

(52:49):
Like this.
They're like some people arebuzzing, like this is setting
the stage for him for a, a, youknow, a possible potential
candidacy run, you know, know,and all that is I.
I mean, I didn't want to giveit any, any, any attention, but
here we are.
I'm giving it attention becausepeople are talking about it.
It's, it's a thing that peopleare saying.
People, prominent people, aresaying things like this,

(53:12):
suggesting it and everything.
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah, I think president Trump has already used
it to spin people, like as healways does.
Like here's a distraction overhere.
Yes, yeah, don't pay attentionto what I'm doing over here.
Right, look at this.
So even he said it.
This was probably a month ago.
Somebody asked him a questionwhy?
In my head it's like they askedhim on air force one, you know

(53:37):
what I mean Like it was one ofthose, and he said well, you
know, what it says is you can'tbe elected to a third term.
And he just kind of left itopen like that.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, so just gave him something to foam at the
mouth over, basically.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
So the speculation became that Vance runs for
president.
He gets elected, he's got Trumpas vice president and he
immediately steps down.
He wasn't elected president,you know, oh my goodness.
And so people started spinningthat, you know.
And then, and then I even heardthat Vance would run again four
years later with Trump as hisvice president again president

(54:23):
again.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Can that even happen?
Can a former president?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
who served as much time as he can as a president.
Can they be a vice president?
There's nothing in theconstitution or any legal
documents that says no.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
That's actually fascinating yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Fascinating.
So those are the loopholes thatpeople are grasping onto, and
President Trump is just lettinghim do it.
He's enjoying it, he's laughinghis ass off.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
As he always does, right, as he always does, and it
is literally, it is absolutelytrue that he does that.
He he drops a little somethinghere, you know, and all the
pigeons go running to peck at it, and then he's like, ok, now we
can go do it, we're you knowwhat we're planning on doing

(55:06):
here and get back to work.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
But yeah, oh my goodness, dude, did we hit every
single?
Did we get?
We got one more, we got onemore.
We do what we missed.
So yesterday, uh, monday, uh two, sorry, sunday, um great finish
to the masters oh, there you go, yes, you know, and and for
those of you that don't followgolf, you know it went to uh, 18
, you know, went to 72 holes andthen it went to a one hole
playoff and Roy McIlroy, uh, wonthe masters, completing a
career grand slam.
Um, there haven't been a wholelot of folks who have done that,

(55:28):
um, but he did that.
And so he's taken a lot offlack because he was paired as
they are.
He was paired with a guy insecond place who is a, who is a.
What's his name?
D Shambo, who I call Ro Shambo,anyway.
So it was very much a.
If you're a Happy Gilmore fan,like D Shambo is very much a

(55:51):
Happy Gilmore.
And Roy McIlroy is very much aShooter McGavin kind of
personality, shooter McGavinkind of personality.
And, by all accounts, roryMcIlroy did not speak a single
word to DeChambeau all day long,through 18 goals, not a single
word.
And golf is a very, althoughpeople are very focused, it is a
very social sport and guys aregenerally very cordial to each

(56:14):
other, even to the point wherethey give each other a hard time
.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
But McElroy said nothing.
Wow, okay.
So I have to be honest with you, clay.
I absolutely had zero interestin this topic until you started
saying all of that.
I'm like, oh, now I mustinvestigate.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
So he won.
He won the playoff.
And then you know, when thegreen jacket was put on him,
there was maybe some like maybethere weren't some handshakes
that were given the way theywere supposed to.
There's a.
There's a lot of girl dramakind of stuff.
That's disappointing going on atthe master, but it was a great.
It was a great tournament.
It was fun to watch.

(56:53):
The other very side note tothis is it probably marked what
is the end of Tiger Woodsplaying career?
Um, he is.
Uh, I think he went underwentsurgery.
He is unable to walk right now.
Did not attend the formerchampions dinner on Wednesday
night, uh, which all the formerwinners show up.
They all wear their greenjackets, they all eat dinner

(57:15):
together.
Um, and he was not there and healso did not attend the
tournament at all.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I was just going to ask you wait, did he play at all
?
He did not play at all, Didn't?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
even show up, wasn't even there.
So a lot of folks arespeculating that it is the end
of his playing career.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yes, but I don't think it's the end of him being
in the spotlight now.
Oh, never Dating a Trump rightor a former Trump.
Former Trump, yes, Former Trump.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
And, most importantly , I think he does love to play
with his son, charlie, and ifyou've ever seen him play, it's
a lot of fun.
So, yeah, tiger's not goingaway, but I think his
professional playing days areofficially at this point, over
with.
That's the speculation, wow.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Look at that.
We closed on a, on a.
I mean.
I know closing on tiger woods,retiring or whatever is
necessarily a good thing, butit's a nice peaceful ending to
the show, right?
None of this was technicallysomething of a peaceful show,
right, like we had a light, alot of uh levity here today.
I will.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I will let me one more thing about the masters,
and you will go for it.
They do not allow any spectator, none, zero.
You are not allowed to haveyour phone on the course.
Oh you cannot.
There's no selfies, there's nofilming, there's no nothing.
You are supposed to go andwatch golf and talk to people?
Augusta says no phones period.

(58:33):
So when you watch, when you seethat the galleries and all the
crowd no phones, it's actuallywatching, but it's really cool
yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
That is actually pretty neat because you know,
we've all seen the pictures andthe videos all the time of you
know people at concerts or anyevent, and all you see is cell
phones everywhere and peoplearen't just taking it in Like
they're taking it in so thatthey can post it for other
people to see and that is thething.
So that's actually really coolthat they, that they do that.

(59:04):
I think it's.
I think it's a great idea.
Be cool if more sporting ormore events in general could do
it, although I think it's likeprobably next to impossible,
generally right, but what do youthink we did it, we got them
all.
We hit them all.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
that all that was probably a record, but I think
that might've been eight.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, yeah, that was that definitely, and we even,
like, kind of had some littleoffshoots there.
We kind of bounced around alittle bit, yay.
Well, guys, I hope that youenjoyed this as much as we did
this was a really fun show andtell us how much you loved our,
our little action figures.
I would love to hear yourthoughts on that.

(59:40):
And you know what?
Here's a better idea.
If you can I don't know if youcan in the comments section.
If you are so inclined, goahead and post yours in the
comments, because I know some ofyou are going to go and do it
right.
There's other people.
Somebody commented.
I posted one I did of justmyself on my page, and some
meanie commented with one ofthose marked safe things, and it
was marked safe for making aaction figure of myself.

(01:00:01):
I was like ha ha ha, you're sofunny, it's all good, I don't
care, can't hurt my feelings.
Oh, guys, it's been a lot offun.
We look forward to coming backat you next week again with more
topics, more fun, more stuffand thanks.
Listen, if you've gotsuggestions, ideas, things you
want us to talk about, throwthem in the comment section too.
We would.
We would love to.
We would love to, we would loveto right.

(01:00:23):
Yeah, absolutely Give us, giveus your thoughts, throw some
input at us, and yeah, that'd bereally fun.
So that's all I got Clay you,you send them off into the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Hey folks, I don't know if everybody saw, but I
made a big announcement onSaturday For those of you that
are fans of my first novel, keepMoving, keep Shooting.
I have one transitioned to anew publisher.
Two there will be a secondedition of Keep Moving, keep
Shooting, with a brand new covercoming out by the end of May.
But more importantly, and whatI think everybody who is a fan

(01:00:56):
of the books is waiting for, isthe sequel, the second book in
the Terry Davis series, thesequel to Keep Moving, keep
Shooting will be out this 4th ofJuly and the title of the book
is Cross to Bear.
If you love a good actionfiction novel, check it out.
But that's the big announcement.
4th of July, cross to Bear.

(01:01:18):
Keep Moving, keep Shootingsequel, second in the Terry
Davis series, coming out thissummer.
So very, very excited aboutthat.
And with that, as I always tellyou, keep moving, keep shooting
.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Outstanding.
Everyone wish Claycongratulations in the comments
section.
Please.
Congratulations, clay.
That is awesome.
I am so excited for the seriesto come out and I'm so excited
to share it with everybody onhere.
We'll designate a good chunk oftime when they're all out just
to sit and talk about the books,because that's one of my
absolute favorite things to do.
I love book talk.
So everybody can look forwardto that, and we will see you

(01:01:50):
guys next week.
Take care.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
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