Code-Switching Politicians, The Real Root of Mass Shootings, & More

Mental health emerges as the true common denominator in mass shootings while politicians and celebrities rush to assign blame elsewhere. Political posturing in Chicago prevents effective intervention as communities suffer under increasing violence.

• Rosie O'Donnell falsely blamed MAGA supporters for the Minnesota shooting before facts emerged
• Chicago leadership rejects federal assistance despite 58 people shot and 8 killed over Labor Day weekend
• Epstein victims announce plans to compile their own list of abusers, promising accountability for "billionaires and politicians"
• US Navy strikes Venezuelan cartel boat, sending strong message about drug trafficking to America
• Chelsea Clinton reportedly considering a run for office as Jerry Nadler announces his departure
• Greta Thunberg joins Gaza flotilla in what Israel calls "Hamas propaganda theater"
• Representative Jasmine Crockett faces criticism for code-switching during public appearances

Clay Novak's new novel "Cross the Bear," the sequel to "Keep Moving, Keep Shooting," releases Tuesday, January 9th at Amazon, Barnes & Noble and other retailers.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the Elsa Kirk Show, with Clay Novak Serving up
trending news and conservativeviews Brought to you by the Elsa
Kirk Collection and RefugeMedical.
And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh well, hey, how are you Clay?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm good.
How are you?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
I'm good.
Listen, I know that you arebetter than good.
You are great because you haveexciting news.
Let's go ahead and start withthat and then we'll do all our
other little stuff and things.
Tell everybody what's going on.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, so, as you know , and the way that you and I met
, I'm an author and my firstbook was released a couple of
years ago Keep Moving, KeepShooting.
I'm an author and my first bookwas released a couple of years
ago Keep moving, keep shootingand since then, a lot of things
have progressed.
I've changed publishers and,thankfully, after a few years

(01:00):
and a lot of people asking,begging, yelling at me,
threatening titled Cross theBear, and it will be available
for purchase Tuesday at Amazon,Barnes, Noble and other various
locations for your ordering.
So very, very happy about that.
It's been a journey.
And oh, by the way, if youpurchase it, there's a sneak
peek into book three, which isalso already done.

(01:22):
And yeah, and and yeah, sothat's, that's the big news.
Tuesday, Tuesday's the big day.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Big day Tuesday Very exciting.
I love new release weeks.
They're so fun.
But there's so much that you doin in preparation for it, right
, it's like it's a littleoverwhelming.
So when the when the releaseday actually comes, you actually
get to like kind of breathe alittle bit.
So, yeah, so that's likeinsider information.
There's so much stuff guys.
We'll take some time one dayand kind of talk about that for

(01:48):
anybody who's interested inauthorship stuff.
That's we geek out over it.
So we could probably take likea whole 60 minutes of just
talking book stuff easily.
But, guys, make sure you stayto the very end or listen.
If you gotta go get somepopcorn or get to a drink or go
to the bathroom whatever, hurryup and come back for the end of
the show, because we have aspecial teaser for you at the

(02:08):
end too.
So the I would love for youguys to see yeah, um, so, yeah.
So that'd be super fun, but inthe meantime we have quite a few
topics.
Um, um, we.
We kind of called it a slownews week, but there's still.
We still have like seven topics, right.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, at first I did.
I was like, oh, it's a slownews week when I pick topics, as
I normally do, and send themoff to Elsa on Tuesday morning.
And I was like, oh, it's a slowweek.
And I was like, topic, topic,topic, topic.
And I was like you came backand added another one.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I did, I did, I couldn't resist it.
All right, guys.
So here's what we have comingup, and we'll be right back
after this and we'll starttalking about it.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Another week, another pile of headlines.
The media mangles.
Rosie O'Donnell rushed to blameMAGA for a Minnesota shooting.
Facts proved the opposite.
Chicago leaders pretend crimeis down, while families still
duck bullets.
Epstein victims demandunredacted truth.
Jerry Nadler bows out asChelsea Clinton circles in and
the US Navy flexes muscleagainst cartels in the Caribbean

(03:09):
.
Oh, and Greta's back with herGaza flotilla photo op just in
time for football season.
Buckle up.
This is the Elsa Kurtz showwith Clay Novak.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
So, as you can see, I had a little bit of fun with
those images.
I get a little chuckle out ofmy shenanigans there.
So, yeah, so we're starting off.
You know, I think the lastcouple shows we started off with
like just the heaviest stuffthat we had to kind of just
tackle and get out of the way.
This one, you know, the origintopic is obviously very heavy.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That was our first topic last week.
We talked about the shootinglast week.
Yeah, you know I tune her out,I stop.
You know it's hard becauseeverybody else brings attention
to her.
I know that she's RosieO'Donnell, is one of President
Trump's favorite people to goafter and she really stuck her
foot in her mouth this time inher immediate reaction to the

(04:05):
shooting.
You said you've got video.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I do.
I do so.
Here it is, and I apologize,guys.
She has this terrible habit oftaking these videos that are,
like you know, practically rightup her nose and it's not the
most pleasant thing.
But here's what she had to say.
I think I have it in itsentirety, so let's take a listen
.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Go to shooting.
And it brought me right back toColumbine in 1999 when I just
could not get it through my headthat students in America were
shooting each other in schools.
And this was a church inside aCatholic school.
And what do you know?
It was a white guy, republican,maga person, what do you know?

(04:45):
White supremacist.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, what do you know?
Rosie was dead wrong on thatand she was very swiftly and
aggressively told as much sheclaims.
Well, I'll play her apologyvideo in just a moment, but
we'll just make some correctionson her statements there for
anybody who doesn't know.
I can't imagine who doesn'tknow at this point, but you

(05:10):
might not know if you listen topeople like Rosie, which people
on the left who are not immersedin all of this stuff, just
casual watchers of news, whichmeans they are probably watching
mainstream news and getting youknow very swayed information.
I almost use the word facts.
They're not getting facts atall, but but the case was, as we

(05:34):
well know, the shooter wasanti-Trump.
The all of the facts of whathappened undermine everything
that she claimed in that video.
So, yeah, so, anyhow.
So she gets wind of.
She claimed she was away for afew days and you know, just came
back to her phone and was likeoh, wow, what's this?
And her apology is equally, ifnot more, insulting than her

(05:58):
actual statement.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Before you roll the apology yeah.
White male.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, that's what she got right.
Yeah, it's the only you'reright, that is the only thing
that she got right.
And you know, and it's.
It's really funny when theseyou know virtue signaling
liberal celebrities make theseyou know mistakes.
They're not mistakes, they'resaying the accidental truth that
they don't mean to sayno-transcript.

(06:55):
And many people in the commentsagree.
I've posted a video about it,gave a little commentary on it
and we all are of the same mind.
It's not really an issue of us,like this side of the aisle.
I hate saying that, but it'sjust what you have to say.
None of us are buying any ofthese BS narratives but

(07:15):
unfortunately, there are peoplewho are buying it and this is
why you have people like Rosie,who have a platform to say the
kinds of things that they'resaying.
So, you know, my small hope isis that if my video, or someone
like me or you who's makingcontent about the things that
they're saying and correctingthem, maybe hopefully it gets

(07:36):
over to the other side andsomebody will see it and go oh
wait, wait a minute, I don'tknow it's.
You know it's a wild, sillyhope, but I have it nonetheless.
So here's here's her apologyvideo, ready for this.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Buddy, it's Rosie O'Donnell, star of the
Flintstones.
Listen, I have a cold sore, Iknow happens to get run down,
you know.
Anyway, I know a lot of youwere very upset about the video
I made before I went away.
For a few days I didn't goonline and haven't seen them
till today.
But you are right, I few days Ididn't go online and haven't

(08:09):
seen them till today.
But you are right, I did not domy due diligence before I made
that emotional statement and Isaid things about the shooter
that were incorrect.
I assumed, like most shooters,they followed a standard MO and
have standard you know feelingsof, you know NRA loving kind of
gun people.
Anyway, the truth is I messedup and when you mess up you fess
up.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
This is my apology video and I hope it's enough.
So listen, this wasn't anapology video, this was a
doubling down video.
This was her doubling down onher, on her rhetoric.
That you know that, accordingto her, most if not all of the
mass shooters, with this oneexception, apparently they all
follow the same MO, according toRosie O'Donnell, and that same
MO is that they are all, what'dyou say?

(08:54):
Nra gun loving?
Yeah, so, and I made a responsevideo to that as well.
So of course I did right.
I won't bother putting up here.
You guys can find it on the, onthe on my page.
But you know, the gist of it isis one I'm really sick and
tired of of everyone with aplatform larger than than ours

(09:20):
Pointing these fingers at oneparticular thing.
Because I took the time and Iknow there's lots of other
people who also took the time tosay hang on a second, is it?
You know?
Because the right there, I'mnot going to.
I'm not going to.
I don't want to generalize.
There are people on the rightwho are very quick and have been
saying all of the shooters,mass shooters, have been

(09:41):
transgendered people.
What's going on here with thetransgender community?
And they're all this and blah,blah, blah, and we know that's
not true.
Like if you pause for a minute,you know that's not true.
And of course, the left issaying things like Rosie says
that they're all NRA gun lovingMAGA hat wearing white men.
None of these things areactually true.

(10:01):
But there is only one truth thatyou can say uniformly for just
about all of them, including theones that were like criminally
motivated, you know, maybe tocover up another crime or
whatever the case is.
The one similarity that theyall have is mental illness.
This is the topic.
Mental illness is the actualtopic and, in fairness, the

(10:22):
percentage of trans identifyingshooters in these incidents is
fractional.
It's very small, the number ofwhite supremacists claiming
white supremacist shooters evenless actually.
But the one thing that standstrue for all of them is that
there are underlying emotional,psychological distress going on

(10:44):
with these people and they wereallowed, for whatever reason
they were allowed to get to thispoint in their psychosis to do
something like this that theyhave done.
So I don't really understandwhy we're so afraid and careful
about talking about that andnaming it, and we're not.
The left doesn't want to callanything mental illness, because

(11:04):
they applaud and celebratemental illness clearly, so I
have just run my mouth so muchClay, speak Clay.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
No, your point about mental illness is spot on.
We talked about the DSM-5 lastweek no longer classifying, you
know, gender dysphoria as amental illness, However,
acknowledging that people whohave or, you know, suffer from
gender dysphoria have, asignificant percentage of them

(11:34):
have other mental illness issues, etc.
Yeah, there's the common threadamongst all this is anyone who
goes into any event, you know,any location whatever with the
intent to do harm to a number ofpeople, any people, not just
children, although that'sprimarily in this case and

(11:54):
obviously any school shooting,you know, targets children.
It's not just about hurtingchildren.
Anyone who has that mentality,it's a mental illness.
I don't care if Las Vegasshooter, you know, nightclub
shooter, it doesn't matter.
It is a mental illness issueand you're right there's.
You know we're at a bit of acrux when it comes to, you know,

(12:15):
where does the line, where isthe line right, On a person
having the right to exist, theperson having, you know, the
right to be whatever you want tocall it, you know, eccentric,
whatever before it becomes amental illness issue.
If you go back to when we werekids I know this sounds a little
crazy, but think back tocartoons, right, that were
produced in the 40s, 50s and 60sthat we watched in the 70s, 80s

(12:38):
and even in the early 90s.
You know, you watch the old Tomand Jerry's, the old, you know,
literally crazy person.
Ambulance pulls up, two guysjump out, they slap a
straitjacket on the guy, theythrow him in the back of the
truck and he ends up in a rubberroom.
Listen, that is not all thatfar fetched Like as a protective
measure for that individual andfor society.
We used to do things like that,Right, Right.

(12:59):
Think about the mentalinstitutions that no longer
exist in the United Statesbecause we don't put people in
them anymore.
Right, Until, after the fact,when there's a criminal act
associated, we do nothingpreventative.
And I know that's a slipperyslope and I know it's a very
delicate issue, especially andthe gun owning public is also

(13:20):
complicit in this or part ofthis argument because there is
the red flag law argument where,you know, and a law abiding gun
owner, the last thing they wantis some other person who
doesn't agree with them, afamily member or somebody else
who says, no, that person'scrazy, they should have all
their guns taken away.
Right, and so the firearmcommunity, the two way community

(13:41):
, fights against that type ofmental health interdiction to
protect themselves.
And on the flip side, we've gota more of a you know the
liberal side of that argumentwho are, all for you know, drug
injection points on the street.
All for like, you know, all foryou know, bisexual
cross-dressing parades throughdowntown, which you know would

(14:02):
have 50 years ago, would havelanded everybody in jail or in
an asylum.
So we have not, in modernAmerica, come to grips with the
mental health issue issues thatlead us to situations like
Minnesota, because as much asthe right or the left blames the
right for not wanting to giveup guns to protect children, the

(14:24):
right blames the left for notwanting to give up, you know, um
, cross-dress or story time toprotect children, Right.
So it's the and and really itall comes to a point based on
exactly what you said, which isthe demographics are very mixed.
Um, it comes to a mental healthissue, whether it's a
transgender person, someone whowas bullied, someone who was

(14:45):
abused, someone who's you knowwhatever reason it gets to a
mental health issue.
Whether it's a transgenderperson, someone who was bullied,
someone who was abused, someonewho is, you know, whatever
reason.
It gets to a point where itbecomes a violent act and we
have this absolute reluctance toact before the violent act
happens, which we didn't used tohave.
And so the argument where we'reall kind of stuck I don't care
what side of the aisle you're onis what do we do to prevent

(15:05):
this?
When it comes to mental health,and I will tell you what Rosie
did, I, you know I.
I said this, I have taught you,you have become much better
about.
Initial report is always wrong,right, Right.
This one, Minnesota.
I didn't react at all because Iknew whatever came across the
wire in the first hour or twowas going to be garbage.
She didn't.
She didn't have the commonsense.
She didn't.
Well, because she's dumb,truthfully, she didn't have the

(15:29):
sense to keep her mouth shutuntil the facts came out, and
neither does our media, whichperpetuates part of the problem
as well.
You know, you and I weretalking, before we started
recording, about the use of AIto generate quick responses to
incidences, and that's reallywhat our media does.
Maybe not, I'm sure theyprobably use AI, but it's really
the quick response.
Whoever gets to the story first, accurate or not, we'll print a

(15:54):
retraction later, which theynever do.
You know they jump on thosethings without having all the
facts and they make a statementor make a case in one direction
or the other, which is whatRosie did.
Now, as to her apology, you'reright, it wasn't an apology,

(16:30):
no-transcript, a mass shooter,and you don't even know it.
Um right, we don't have thoseconversations and I hate to say
this.
Maybe we should, yeah, maybe weshould.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, mental health is to your point.
Mental health is theculmination, it's the pinnacle
of where all of this goessideways and we've got to figure
out a way to address it.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Right, and you know to to your really good points
too, about both sides, fordifferent reasons and in
different ways, for differentreasons and in different ways,
fighting against better mentalhealth care or treatment or
response to.
Yeah, you know, and it issomething that both sides can or

(17:16):
should.
I don't, I don't, I guess Ican't say can, because obviously
, if we could, we would have bynow, but it is certainly
something that we should all becoming together on, because I
mean, I think, in the mostgeneral sense, I think there are
a couple, a handful of thingsthat we could all agree on,
whichever side you're on, and Iwould like to believe that the

(17:38):
first and foremost that we canall agree on is that we want and
need for our children to besafe.
I mean, that seems like themost basic, like, if we can't
find anything else to agree on,I know somebody will jump in and
say something about the leftand their love for abortion.

(17:58):
Yes, we're going to set thataside for now, because I know
that comment is coming and Idon't disagree with it.
But I'm not talking abouttalking about our kids in school
, our kids in church, our kidsout on the street, all of those
things you know.
So I mean, I feel like we cancome to that decision or, you
know, conclusion that we allagree that children should be
protected, and you know then, ofcourse, then where the

(18:20):
conversation breaks down iswhere everybody has different
ideas of how to do that.
The left will say, well, if youget rid of all of the guns in
all of existence and all of theworld, everything will be
perfectly fine.
And the right pretty much justwalks away at that point because
it is such profoundlydelusional, ridiculous thinking
that you can't even have aconversation.
So I just I don't.

(18:40):
I guys, I wish I had, I believeme, I wish I had the answers.
You know, don't I guys?
I wish I had, I believe me, Iwish I had the answers.
You know, I love being right,everything.
We've had that conversation.
How I love to be right.
I know I'm right about this.
Um, what I don't know, andcan't even be right or wrong
about, is that I don't know whatthe solution is.
Maybe we'll have to ask AI.
Sorry, I shouldn't, I shouldn'teven joke about that, I guess.

(19:01):
Apparently, people get mad thetermin.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Terminator enters the chat.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Right, seriously, oh my goodness.
But yeah, so I mean, that's thegist of the Rosie thing, and
you know, I know I'm preachingto the choir.
We're preaching to the choirwhen we say to our audience,
like, don't be sucked in bythese kind of you know,
ridiculous narratives.
You know ridiculous narratives.
But you know, the thing Ialways go back to is man, oh man
, make sure you can havesomething to come back with to

(19:34):
respond to that.
I'm such a huge fan of knowingyour facts and having those
facts just ready.
I don't care if you have towrite them down, I don't care if
you write them on your hand orif you got to pull them up on
your phone, but you know, whenpeople do these things, it's not
enough.
And I know so many people willsay things like just ignore them
, don't, don't give them more ofa platform, don't, you know?
Don't feed into it.
The fact is is they areplatformed, they are out there,
they are spreading these, theselies, to other people and we do

(19:58):
have a responsibility At least Ifeel like I have a
responsibility to put truth outthere.
I mean, if I, if I've beenblessed with a platform to speak
from, I don't expect thateverybody's going to agree with
me, but I do think it is myresponsibility, given the chosen
path I I'm on.
Yeah, I mean, I do have aresponsibility to to say
something about it and correctit if I can.

(20:19):
So so, yes, guys, I know wedon't, we don't care what Rosie
has to say, but there areactually I know we don't
understand it People who dolisten and believe and care on
all those things.
All right, I'm done with Rosie.
Are you done with Rosie?
So I'm so done with Rosie.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Our next, Can you take the lead of crime, violent
crime specifically, and thenalso to assist ICE.
It's coming closer and closerto fruition.

(20:57):
There's been a lot of back andforth between President Trump,
governor Pritzker and the mayorof Chicago, who is complete and
total bonehead, and it even cameto a head today.
Oh, by the way, it's Wednesday.
We started recording at 430Eastern Time, but today, you
know, president Trump was in apress conference.
He begged Governor Pritzker tocall him, you know, talking

(21:21):
about Chicago.
The stance that GovernorPritzker has taken in the mayor
of Chicago is that crime inChicago is not that bad.
Immediately after Labor Dayweekend, where 50, I think the
latest count was 58 people shot,eight people killed.
Violence is down in Chicago 574murders in the city last year
alone.
The crime is down.

(21:41):
But they took the stance thatit is uh guns coming in from red
states, specifically indiana,which is, you know, right around
the corner from chicago.
That's where the guns arecoming in from.
That it is indiana's fault nowthat there's crime in chicago.
Not at all.
Talking about the fact thatillinois, uh, outside of chicago

(22:03):
, especially once you getoutside of Cook County, the city
itself becomes very red veryquickly.
So it's Indiana's fault.
Those guns are coming inillegally.
Everything that's being done inIllinois is perfectly fine.
It's Indiana's fault.
Illegal guns from there andthat's why we have violent crime
in Chicago, which is absolutelyridiculous.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Right, and it's also Trump's fault, right, I think.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I actually even have a video for this.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
It Right and it's also Trump's fault, right?
I think?
I think I actually even.
It's always.
It's always Trump's fault, Ithink, I think that's what this
one is.
Let's find out.
Come from red states?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh, they are coming from Indiana, they are coming
from Mississippi, they arecoming from Louisiana.
That is the harsh reality,whether Republicans like it or
not, occupying our city will donothing to solve this problem.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Shootings will continue as long as this
presidential administrationcontinues to put politics over
people.
Yeah, which is exactly whatthese idiots are doing.
Doesn't it like make your headexplode when they say things
like this?
Like who's putting politicsover people?
I'm sorry, what now?
Are you kidding?
It's sometimes Clay.
They make me speechless.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Brandon Johnson keep in mind is you know, lori
Lightfoot was the previous mayorof Chicago.
She was essentially run out ofoffice.
He was elected to replace herand in the conditions of that
election it was the highestpercentage vote and if I
remember it wasn't a majority,it was like the highest

(23:30):
percentage and there was abecause it was essentially an
unrestricted election.
There was a ton of candidates.
I think he was somewhere in the25 to 29 percent range.
He just happened to get themost votes.
So he's incompetent and he'sbeen incompetent since the day
he walked in.
We never, chicago, never,thought that things could be
worse than Lori Lightfoot.
Proved ourselves wrong yetagain for this bonehead, you

(23:54):
know.
And then we've got GovernorPritzker, you know, who's
truthfully never worried,suffered.
He comes from an extremelywealthy family.
You know he was governorthrough COVID, which you know he
put a ton of restrictions onIllinois during COVID and then
fled the state, was in Florida,was in Wisconsin, you know, at
his family's ranches doing work.
I don't know if you've seen him, but him and Chris Christie

(24:15):
have the same athletic, have thesame athletic build.
So there's not a lot of workgoing on for Governor Pritzker,
but especially not ranch work.
But regardless, both of themhave only the interest of
politics in mind when it comesto this.
They're not.
They've totally disregarded andwe talked about Washington DC
last week They've totallydisregarded the short term

(24:37):
success of Washington DC In this.
They, you know it can't havethat, can't?
It won't work in Chicago.
Ok, well, why not?
And they can't give you areason other than the fact that
you know, orange man bad, trumpis bad.
It's all Trump, exactly.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, um, youknow so.
It's all about politics, it'sall about power, um, and and the

(24:58):
to the city's credit thecitizens of Chicago who live
downtown.
I'm not talking about the whitesuburban soccer moms who are
weighing in on this, who reallyhave no business sticking their
nose into what happens in thecity.
I'm talking about the folksthat live downtown.
Brandon Johnson got lambasted ina town hall meeting either late

(25:19):
last week or early this weekfrom the citizens of Chicago who
live in the worst neighborhoods, who are begging to have help
for the Chicago PoliceDepartment, in the sense of the
National Guard.
President Trump sending that in, begging for it, and he just
stood there stoically, didn'tsay a word, you know, and then
walked out.
So he's probably listening tothat 26% of the constituency

(25:42):
that actually voted for him andnot the 70, whatever percent
that didn't.
But this is complete and totalincompetency in the sense of
they're not even willing todiscuss or consider this as a
possibility in it as a shortterm solution to help fix the
city of Chicago.
Won't do it.
And again it's it's politicsover people all day long, twice
on Sundays.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, no question about it.
You know you're talking aboutPritzker.
I mean, this is the guy who youknow takes every media
opportunity to say things likeyou know.
I mean, everything for them isis just a media opportunity for
them Ways to line their pocketsand, like you said, you know

(26:47):
whoever Brandon Johnson lawenforcement from those
impoverished crime ridden areasto protect her and her family or
her wife or girlfriend,whatever the case was, I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
But to protect, hide the multiple instances of
domestic violence.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yes, yeah, yeah, how about that?
You know, but no, nobody knowsabout that, nobody talked about
that.
But you know, I mean, that'swhere you know, that's where you
feel a little gut wrenchedabout it, because when you think
about those people that are sodesperate, they just want to,
you know just, they just want tobe safe, they just want to be
able to go outside and go to thestore and, you know, sit out on

(27:24):
their front stoop on a summernight and they can't do any of
those things because it is sounsafe.
And these people in theirlittle ivory towers are, you
know, dictating, telling theworld that no, they're fine,
they don't need anything Likeit's easy for them to say
because they're not experiencingthis.
This isn't their life, you know, and all the I shared a picture

(27:46):
it was an image of image of.
It was I mean, I'll give you theliteral, the literal
description of it it was a bunchof, it was a selfie of sorts of
a bunch of white hands with oneparticular finger raised, I
think.
Was it at Trump Tower?
Yeah, it was at Trump Tower.
Right, yeah, yes.
Trump power, right, yeah, yes.
And you know, is them givingthe FU to Trump and to the

(28:15):
administration for wanting tosend help to reduce the crime in
the area and if that wasn'tlike the poster child of, you
know, slap in the face is aninsult to injury that you know
nice and easy for you guys aregoing to get your lattes, your
soy latte, over at Starbucks andyou know you took your selfie
with your iPhone, your latestiPhone, and you're just going to
leave the area and be fine.
So your big, you know, your bigstatement means absolutely

(28:36):
nothing whatsoever to the peoplethat are living this life right
now and dealing with all of it.
So shame on all of them.
It is disgusting and you knowmy heart goes out to the people
that are just trying to survive,just trying to raise their
families.
You know, awful, more, more.

(29:01):
I guess we're on a roll here.
Victims let's talk aboutvictims Epstein this is.
This is pretty amazing.
I have video for that.
I'm like on a video roll today.
Wait, did I speak too soon?
I do have video.
So this just came out today.
Again to Echo Clay this isWednesday for us.
You're going to watch thisThursday night.
We're going to be sittingwatching with you and joining
you in the comments.
The Epstein victims.
So there were things releasedyesterday and today, or was that
just today?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
30,000 pages yesterday Based on unredacted,
mostly unredacted.
There's still some and thereprobably will always be some
documents that have some sort ofredaction on them.
But 30,000 pages releasedyesterday.
You know every, not just pagesbut information.
People went very specificallythey, they went into documents

(29:43):
that because you know there'sthat one minute of video that is
under discrepancy from the jailthe night that Epstein hung
himself.
People are looking for that, butthere's a lot of it released
and you and I have talked aboutthis before.
We talked about it in referenceto JFK and some other things.
When they dump 30,000 pagesalthough now with things like AI

(30:03):
it's a little bit easier tofind what you're looking for
People still have to go throughand search this stuff and find
exactly the good nuggets in themiddle of this.
So the administrationdepartment of justice was
subpoenaed by the houseoversight committee to release
these documents.
The house oversight committeereceived them, they went through

(30:23):
them and then they releasedthem.
So that spurred what happenedtoday, which was a press
conference, a news conferencereally, by a number of and I
don't know how many there were,but a number of the Epstein
victims, these young women whowere trafficked over and over
again, for you know varyingnumbers of years to come out and

(30:44):
speak publicly and they droppeda bit of a bombshell in this,
in this this little pressconference that they had.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, we have it.
We have it here, it is guys.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
And the secrecy can stand with us and declaring that
no one no billionaires, nopoliticians, not world leaders
is above the law.
And let me announce now severalof us Epstein survivors have
been discussing creating our ownlist of names.
We know the names.
Many of us were abused by them.

(31:25):
Now, together as survivors, wewill confidentially compile the
names we all know were regularlyin the Epstein world and it
will be done by survivors andfor survivors.
No one else is involved.
Stay tuned for more details onthat, because history is
watching and so are the womenwho will come after us.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Thank you, so she said some really interesting
things there.
One I think it was probably oneof the biggest points that she
made, which is that they weregoing to be doing that
confidentially, so they're notgoing to be putting their names,
they're just going to put alltheir heads together, right, and
they're not going to be puttingtheir names.
They're just going to put alltheir heads together, right, and

(32:10):
they're not going to releaseconfidentially to us.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
The way I interpreted that is that, confidentially,
the victims are going to pullthemselves together.
They're not going to do itpublicly, it's not going to be
in a boardroom, somewhere like afishbowl.
They're going to come together.
They're probably going to dosome.
You know, hey, I know this guywas there.
Who come together?
They're probably going to dosome.
You know, hey, I know this guywas there.
Who else knows?
You know, you know, okay,that's three of us.
That's legit right, I know thisguy was there.
Does anybody else ever see thisguy?
No, okay, well, we're not goingto go with one.

(32:35):
Maybe it'll be something likethat.
But I think they'll cometogether as their own process.
But I really believe at the endof this we are going to have a
publicly released list, and thetwo words that she said that I
keyed on are billionaires andpoliticians.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yes, yeah, the only thing that gave me pause for
questioning was she saidsomething to the effect of by
survivors for survivors and Ididn't know if that meant like
they're going to be disclosingthat list.
I'm assuming that list is goingto get released because for a
moment I kind of took that whenI first heard.
I'm like, does she mean thatthey're just going to release it

(33:13):
to each other, like this isjust going to be an internal
thing because they're you know.
Then you go the next obviousthat well, if you're going to be
making, if you're going to beputting these big names out in
the public, you're going to beaccusing them, outing them.
Essentially, you know, how areyou going to protect yourselves
from that?
Obviously, you know, beingconfidential, I guess you're not
going to know who said, whatabout who.

(33:35):
You know just that it was aconsensus.
So you know I just the biggestthing I pray for is their safety
and protection, because youknow, we know, you know we don't
even have to say all of thethings.
That stands on its own.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
We know, you know we don't're probably in the mindset
where it's like, well, I'mgoing to say it, and if you're
going to sue me, then I'm goingto prove publicly that it's true
, and and if you're going to,and if not, then you're going to
have to defend yourself and saywhy it's not true and provide
some proof of why it's not true.
So I think they're at thispoint now where they're like

(34:25):
nobody's going to sue us foranything, it's just going to go,
it's just going to be out therein public.
And then, you know, they'llfeel whether anything happens or
not, whether it's enough toprosecute somebody, whether it's
enough to hold anybody legallyaccountable, I don't think at
this point they care, because Idon't think that realistically
they have that expectation.

(34:45):
But the fact that these peoplehave been outed and they know
that within the culture of today, this is one of those times
where cancel culture is awesome.
Um, because when these namescome out, um, you will see the
effect of cancel culture onthese individuals.
Um, you know there's alreadycalls like um, who?
Uh?
Oh, my girl, Megan Kelly, waslike she's calling for Prince
Andrew to be arrested straightup based on the documents that

(35:06):
were released.
Like he's a royal, Got it,Don't care.
He should be in jail, andthat's the type of thing that
you're going to see as this listcomes out.
But your point of these womenhave to be protected.
You know we don't like to talkabout the amount of people that
the Clintons know that haveended up dead in a ditch
somewhere, but you know BillClinton's name is on that list.

(35:27):
He flew on that plane.
We all know he was there Right,Many, many, many times Right.
And so your gut anybody withany brains goes to the exactly
what you said, which is thesewomen need to be protected from
not just the Clintons but aClinton have time to grab it for
us here, but I did see thatthere was an interview and I'm

(35:48):
sorry, I don't know who wasconducting the interview, but
with maybe about six survivors,and the question was asked of
them, of President Trump.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Anybody see President Trump doing anything wrong,
anything questionable, anything?
And the answer was a resoundingno from every single one of
them.
So you know, everybody can takethat and do whatever they want
with it.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
If you're on the left , you're going to say I don't
believe them, even though I sayone of the lawyers for the
victims actually came out andsaid that President Trump, since
2009, has been cooperating withthis entire case, providing
information at key points wherehe could help.
So think about that timeline,folks.
That's 2009.
That's pre-President Trump,right, but he has been involved
with this, on the good side ofthings, since it started, and

(36:33):
that was one of the attorneysfor the victims that said that
so Right.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
And Epstein's own lawyer.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Epstein's own lawyer confirmed that President Trump
was involved.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, right, so I mean it's.
This has been confirmed overand over again.
There has been conversation ofTrump's willingness and openness
and, and I think that samelawyer from Epstein actually
even you know it was a lengthyvideo out with him Somebody was
asking him questions.
It was like a street interviewbasically, and he was like, yeah
, he was actually of all thepeople that we questioned and

(37:02):
all the same, he was the onlyone who came to us first and
basically said I'll tell youwhatever you want to.
You know, anything that I'vegot that might help you, I will
tell you.
So you know, he was the onlyone out of all of them that did
that.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
So I do have and I don't know if you heard anything
and folks, if you saw or heardthis.
I was driving today and I waslistening to President Trump's
press conference.
He kept referring to this asthe Epstein hoax, which I think
he's referring to people tryingto implicate him in the Epstein
thing, but he was on thePresident Trump, you know kind
of messaging that he goes to,which is like we need to stop.

(37:36):
We need to talk more about howthe great things in America and
talk less about the crappythings in America, which I don't
necessarily agree with.
But if you have any clarity,please, in the comments, jump in
there and talk about PresidentTrump using the term Epstein
hoax, which I think he'sreferencing himself.
But I'm not OK, do you knowwhat?

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Because he, I do not, but that kind of does give a
more likely perspective on it,because he used that phrasing
once before when the big, youknow ruckus was all about, you
know, not getting thingsreleased and people, everybody
was kind of losing their mindsover it, not wrongly, I'm not
mocking that, but you knoweverybody was pretty ticked off
that you know we weren't gettingthe information that we were

(38:17):
promised.
And he used that term beforeEpstein hoax and I wish he would
clarify that as well becausethat would clarify it.
A period, end of story, right,if he just said what I mean by
that is.
But that would make the mostsense because that would be the
hoax of it, the leftperpetrating you know his
connection, his, you knownefarious connections with

(38:38):
Epstein, when it's, you know,been proven repeatedly over and
over again by people who wouldknow that that is not the case.
So yeah, I tend to think thatthat is what he means by Epstein
hoax.
But because he's using thatphrase and not giving it any
context, like we're trying to,it's giving that impression that
he's calling the entire thing ahoax.

(38:59):
So he needs to restate that andcorrect that or just expand on
it a little bit so people canyou know concretely understand
people who care to understand?
You know because, yeah, youknow but yeah, some people won't
some people won't.
Yeah, like I couldn't even clay.
It makes me so tired, Icouldn't even finish the
statement.
I'm like uh, you know, you know, guys, everybody knows.

(39:23):
Oh, let's see, okay, let's go.
Oh my gosh, we're like we'redoing really good, uh, let's
talk about this.
This is.
This is interesting.
Hey, how about that?
So after what is it?
Thirty four years, rumors areswirling that Chelsea Clinton is

(39:49):
considering a run.
What do you think of that?
I mean, that's kind of a randomone to throw out there, so I
tend to think it's got some legson it.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, she's been raised for this.
She's been bred for this sinceshe was a child.
I think that was always theintent.
She's less qualified to do thisthan her mom was, you know.
Just you know, running foroffice in the state of New York
with really her only.
You know, hillary Clinton'sonly qualifications were the
fact that she was an attorneyand that she was the first lady

(40:16):
truthfully to run for office.
Chelsea doesn't even have.
She's the first child.
It doesn't matter, right?
I mean, it's a preposterous andyet so predictable.
You know name to throw in there, because it's name recognition,
but also what we're starting tosee.
You know Nadler for those ofyou that it doesn't come to mind
exactly who he is he's gotanother one of those athletic

(40:37):
builds like Chris Christie andJB Pritzker.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Is he the one that's called the penguin?
Yeah, Is he the one that?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Short fat walls around.
Yeah, he's him leaving is alongthe lines of Joni Ernst, by the
way is also not running foroffice again.
That was announced, I think,yesterday.
So what you're starting to seeacross both parties is a youth
movement like that.

(41:05):
You know both parties stillhave their elder states people,
right, you know nancy pelosi isgoing to die in office, maxine
waters is going to die in office, schumer's going to die.
You know, I mean like theythey're there forever.
But you know the democrats area little bit further ahead with
this, not in a good way.
Um, the squad's been around forquite a few years now and that's
their youth movement.
Chel Clinton would be part ofthat.

(41:27):
I don't know if she necessarilywould sign in with the squad,
but just that movement ofyounger candidates which
everyone complained about in thelast election, right, two old
white guys which then turnedinto an old white guy and an
incompetent black woman runningfor president.
But the election before thatwas two old white guys.
So now we're starting to see ayouth movement across both
parties and I think that this isa signal for that.

(41:51):
And Chelsea's got that.
She's got the name.
Recognition and competency hasnever been a qualifier to be a
Democratic politician.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Clearly not.
We can see that right acrossthe board, right?
That is not a qualifier foranybody.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
She was a bartender.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, right, exactly, and yeah, that one.
Yeah, you know.
So I I feel like the the wholename recognition thing is not
going to fare as well for her asthey like to believe.
I mean, the Clinton name ispretty tainted, I mean, I guess
maybe not so much in theDemocratic lane, but they had a

(42:30):
little saturation, like people.
There was a point where peoplewere like we're tired of hearing
from you.
On the left they were likeenough, sit down Hillary, like
we don't want to hear from you,so I don't know how well she
will be received.
I mean she really she doesn'thave a real public presence,
right.
I mean, she's just kind ofthere.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
But again, nobody knew who the squad was before
they ran her office.
She at least had the name.
Now I will say this going backto our previous topic, this was
all very dependent upon whatcomes out of the Epstein files,
because if her dad is implicatedin that, president Clinton more
so than what we all assume,right, we all assume he rode the

(43:10):
jet, we all assume he went downthere and had a good time with,
you know young women, which hehad done his entire adult life.
We all know that Bill Clintonhas been accused beyond Monica
Lewinsky of that sort of conduct.
But if it comes out in any kindof detail, she's done Like her
candidacy is over with.
Oh, by the way, if you saw theother day, bill Clinton got off

(43:31):
the plane with an AED and itmade headlines.
I think that is also inpreparation for him coming out
as a very, very bad actor on theupstanding list.
And then shortly after thatwe'll be holding a funeral
through the streets ofWashington DC for former
president.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Listen, no argument for me.
I that would not.
I wouldn't even blink at that.
That would be just kind of agiven.
That would be like, oh, he hada long underlying illness that
they've been announced to thepublic yeah, hillary holding a
pillow over his face.
Yeah, that's the underlyingillness.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Sleep the a pillow over his face.
Yeah, that's the underlyingillness, sleep.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
The underlying illness is having a crappy wife.
Is the underlying yes, yeah, anevil, evil, nasty, rotten woman
.
By the way, I am very happy.
I have no suicidal thoughts.
We love the Clintons, we lovethem, we love them and we think
they're such wonderful people.
I hope the best for chelsea allthe best, all the best, yeah,
okay, I feel, I feel safer now.

(44:32):
I, I, I like to think we aresuch small potatoes that I don't
think you know you never, know,you never know.
Oh, what do we have next?
Oh, this here, yeah, so, oh, mygoodness.
So listen, can I show you guyssomething funny?
And I, I, I, somebody sent thisover to me and maybe y'all
won't find it funny, but I foundit funny.

(44:53):
It's maybe not appropriatehumor, fine, I'll just show you
here it is.
Come on, it was kind of funny,I thought it was funny.
Um, somebody is going to tellme in the comments it's not, you
know, that's not funny, peoplelost their lives.
Well, I mean, it's funny, thankyou.

(45:13):
Thank you, yes, I found itel.
Senator Rubio confirmed Madurois furious and the message is US
will hit cartel routes evennear Venezuelan waters.

(45:34):
You know so that is, and wetalked briefly before we started
up here that that's basicallyPresident Trump saying not
playing, not playing, guys.
And if you don't believe me, goask those guys how serious I am
.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
This is a great example of F around and find out
.
For those of you that aren'ttracking we moved a significant
number of ships.
They're not boats.
The Navy gets upset when youcall them boats.
They moved a number of shipsdown through the Caribbean and
closer to the shores ofVenezuela, still maintaining
international waters, caribbeanand closer to the shores of
Venezuela, still maintaininginternational waters.
But that's because, you know,trenadagua and other of the drug

(46:11):
cartels have been designated asforeign terrorist organizations
because of the amount of drugsand bad actors, people, wise
humans, that they're pumpinginto the United States.
So you know, president Maduro ofVenezuela, who is an absolute
lunatic, and folks, if you wantto see how socialism doesn't
work, just go take about a halfan hour and do some research on

(46:33):
Venezuela.
And that's this guy.
And so he's upset because hethinks that the United States is
targeting Venezuela, in whichcase we've said multiple times
it's just the cartels, butVenezuela as a nation is
responsible for protecting.
You know, maduro himself is inpower, probably because of the
cartels and then the amount ofcrap, drugs, bad after human

(46:57):
beings that are being moved intothe United States.
And President Trump saidenough's enough and so first
opportunity of a, you know hesaid in the press conference I
was listening to today, he saidthat they had voice recordings
of people either on that boat orloading that boat something to
that effect talking about thatboat saying that it's full of
drugs.
And so they said, you know,they got into international

(47:19):
waters and cleared hot and youknow, I'm pretty sure that was a
drone and a hellfire, you know,which proved to be very, very
useful and a significant part ofmy adult life.
But they, you know, they blewthe boat apart in international
waters, and now Maduro is upset,and so the question you've got
to ask yourself is why is heupset?
Why?
Are you upset?
A boat full of drugs and badpeople headed towards the united

(47:41):
states.
Why are you so upset about it?
Yeah, and why do you think?
Because that's who's paying hissalary.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
You know, yes yeah, so be mad, cry harder, stomp
your feet more.
There's more of that.
Where that comes from, ifyou're not getting the message?
And um, I for one absolutelylove this move.
I think it was you know, thisway way long overdue, along with
many of the things that Trumpis doing and and you know, this

(48:09):
is sending, this is sending sucha clear Listen.
Everything that Trump has donesince he's been back in office
has sent very, very clearmessages and and they are very
successfully clear messages,because how many, how many heads
of state and political leaderscame're all?
Everybody showed up.

(48:30):
He said, hey, come on, come onover to his first term.
They say it a lot less now, butthey still try and float that

(49:02):
out.
They're like the world islaughing at us.
No, no, babe, they're not,Definitely not.
Ask Maduro if he's laughingright now.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
So the only thing back to that press conference.
The only thing President Trumpagain didn't do well in his
messaging is he didn't emphasizehe actually didn't even say it,
but he didn't emphasize thefact that they have we, the
United States, have declared thecartels as terrorist
organizations and therefore bytargeting he didn't say that and
that's part of the problem,because people are like why?

(49:34):
You don't know who is on there.
This could have been, you know,could have been tourists,
whatever.
No, and again in his messagingyou know could have been
tourists, whatever.
No, and and again in hismessaging.
You know he does need to usethose talking points a little
bit better to reiterate whywe're doing the things that
we're doing.
I think those of us with commonsense at all know we understand
why, but he needs to say it outloud so it's quotable, right,
and he's got to go into the newscycle and people have to see

(49:56):
and know and understand.
But that was a message sent andI can promise you that is a
message received.
Oh yeah, the next one, orcoming soon, because now we've
hit a boat, right, right, thenext one is going to be a plane
is going to get shot down.
I would bet money that it'sgoing to happen.
Be some low flying aircraftthat's full of drugs.
It's going to get blown out ofthe frigging sky.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Mm.
Hmm, yeah, again, like you said, f around and find out that's a
good old FAFO for you.
So yeah, speaking of people whojust don't get the FAFO, this
knucklehead, listen, we did.
I know somebody will rememberthat we said we were done
talking about Greta and here weare talking about goofy Greta.
I mean the silly, stupid girl.

(50:42):
We are yes, we are all so donewith her.
She has rejoined a Gaza boundflotilla.
Weather, however forced toreturn to port, but organizers
plan to try again.
Israel calls it Hamaspropaganda theater.
Activists call it humanitarianduty.
I mean, again, it's a flotilla.
It's not.
You know, it's a.
It's a little baby boat with acouple sandwiches.

(51:04):
It's so dumb, it's a stunt.
They got a couple of sandwiches, and you know they started.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
They started with, I think the number of boats is 70.
Now I don't know the size.
Right, you can assume that asignificant number of those are
not going to make it, because Ithink they're departing from
Spain.
Is that what I saw?
I think so Entire length of theMediterranean, which is not
necessarily easy thing to do.
Go the entire length of theMediterranean with 70 boats.
You can assume that many ofthose are not going to make it.

(51:31):
Then they're going to get allthe way to the eastern shores
you know of the eastern half orend of the Mediterranean to run
into an Israeli blockade aroundGaza right which they're not
going to get through.
And even if they did getthrough, there is nowhere for
them to offload anything intoGaza.
There is one small fishing portand that's it.

(51:52):
There's no massive dock system,there's no like.
There's no shipping point,there's no shipping port,
there's nothing.
So this is, like you said,perfect word.
It's a stunt which will amountto exactly nothing.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Absolutely nothing.
She gets her little headlinesagain.
She gets podcasters talkingabout her for a hot minute.
None of that makes her any morelikable, valuable, useful or
anything.
It just makes her fodder for awhat I think will probably give
her a grand total of threeminutes of time here.

(52:26):
That is all.
She's in her 20s now, likeshe's 20.
Since she was like 12, right,like my goodness, girlfriend,
you're 20, you're 15 minutes hasbeen up for a long time, but
you are, you are milking everyspare second of it.
So listen, I'll tell you what.
Um, I don't know what actuallymotivates this girl If she is

(52:48):
getting I don't know if she isgetting filthy, stinking, rich.
Um, I, I, for some reason, Ikind of feel like she's not,
like I think she's.

(53:14):
Actually, I could be dead wrong.
Her parents probably are.
Yes, I think she genuinelybelieves what it is that she's
doing.
Like she, I still find her tobe somewhat innocent, in the
sense that I think she is soprofoundly brainwashed and
controlled essentially by thesegroups.
And if I'm wrong, I will own it, I will admit it if something
comes up.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I think she has a disability.
I honestly don't.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
I don't know if she's on that autism spectrum.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I don't know if she's developmentally disabled.
I don't know if she's on thatautism spectrum.
I don't know if she'sdevelopmentally disabled, I
don't know but I think there issomething.
Her mental capacity is notwhere it should be for a
20-year-old and I think it goesbeyond rhetoric and brainwashing
.
I think that there is an actualphysical disability associated,
or mental disability associatedwith that young woman and I
think it's tragic that she'sbeing exploited, because I

(54:02):
really feel that's what it is.
I beyond choice with her.
Now I think there are powersthat are controlling her, that
are exploiting her name in herface and it's horrible, but it
could be worse, because what youcould have is what America is
producing, which is listen, youhave to explain this.
I, this is the topic that Elsasent to me.
It was like we need to talkabout this.
Listen, you have to explainthis.

(54:22):
I, this is the topic that Elsasent to me and was like we need
to talk about this.
I didn't know what codeswitching was.
I had to look this up, soplease tell us what this means.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yeah, so so let me just say, you know, I I did not
know what.
I'd heard the term before.
I did not know what it was,simply because I didn't have a
reason to care, it didn't,didn't affect my life in any way
and I, just the other day, Iposted, so what I technically

(54:50):
first posted.
Do I have it?
Yes, so I posted this the otherday and this is essentially a
translation or a transcript ofwhat she said at this event.
And I apologize, I don't evenknow what this event, I don't
even know where she is at, whereshe is talking like this.
Hey, let me take that banneroff of there.
I mean, if I were to try it, Ican't even, I can't even try to

(55:11):
A white person trying to readthis would be accused.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Exactly so no.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
And so, by the way, one of the places that I posted
that was LinkedIn, and I don'tknow why I love to fire up
LinkedIn.
I don't know why I like to.
It's just too easy.
It's like you know what is that?
What's that saying?
Shooting fish in a barrel?
Is that what that saying is?
Did I even get that right?
I don't even know, but that'swhat it's like.
And you know, it's too easy toget somebody rattled up.
And, sure enough, some pearlclutching Karen jumped in the

(55:39):
comments.
I was like how dare you?
That is thinly veiled racism.
And I'm like no, it's justexactly what she does, right?
I'm like, no, it's literallywhat she said and how she spoke.
And, by the way, if anybody'sbeing racist, it's technically
Jasmine Crockett, because she isunder the impression that that
is how you should be speaking tocertain parts of your
constituents, is how you shouldbe speaking to certain parts of

(56:02):
your constituents.
So I feel like that might be alittle bit racist, to presume
that they are too stupid tounderstand standard English, in
which, by the way, she speaksthat perfectly fine.
So let me give you so.
So somebody else in the commentsection said Elsa, please tell
me, there's a video of thissomewhere there can't be,
there's no possible way.
To which I said, oh why?
Yes, there is my love and hereit is.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
These people.
They are crazy because theyalways talk about how Christian
they is.
Yeah, I don't know how many ofthem on that side are getting
divorced because they gettingcaught up sleeping with their
coworkers, staffers, interns,all the things.
Yeah, you ain't got to believeme, just go Google, you'll find
some of it, I'm telling you.
And the wives is being messy.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Now listen, if this is the only manner of speaking
that she ever knew, I could not,would not in good conscience
make fun or criticize oranything.
I simply somebody else maybewould.
I would not if thecircumstances of her life made

(57:04):
it so she'd never hadopportunity to learn standard
English.
Okay, so just so we're clear.
Somebody will dispute it.
It's all good, but I just sohappen to have proof that this
private school educated youngwoman is well capable of
speaking normally, and here itis Good to see you in the new
year.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
You know, no one could have told me that when I
went down to Austin now it lookslike a little bit over a year
ago that I would be running forCongress.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
That girl, that young woman, is adorable.
She's well-spoken, she'sseemingly delightful, exuberant
and excited for her journey.
I don't know how she went fromthat woman to that creature that
we showed.
Listen, I cannot believe thatthis is what people find as an

(57:58):
acceptable, applaudablerepresentative in the US
government.
I am embarrassed by her.
I'm embarrassed for her.
I am insulted on behalf of herconstituents, who are not morons
by any stretch of theimagination, but which she seems

(58:19):
to think that they are becauseshe has done this.
Now, multiple, this is the mostexaggerated version of it that
I've seen.
Is this the most over the topversion that you've seen, or
have you seen equal or worse?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, I think this is probably the worst and we've
seen this from AOC before.
She has been, you know.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Every one of them.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah, she's been, you know, caught doing this as well
.
Kamala obviously did it.
That was well documented duringthe election on how she would
change.
You know how she spoke,depending on what the
demonstration of code, switchingthe before and after or the

(59:03):
after and before.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
This is what code switching is.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah, you flip the switch to whatever you know
language you need to use toconnect with whatever audience
you need.
You know you're speaking to andlisten.
Some people have said oh, youknow if you're, you know if
you're Marco Rubio and you'respeaking to a heavily Hispanic
audience, you know sometimes youmight speak in Spanish.
He's notably spoken in Spanishin public before too.
That's a different language.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
It's a different language.
That is not code switching,that is speaking the language.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It's not the same thing, folks, it's not the same
thing.
And so Jasmine Crockett, whovery soon is going to be out of
a job, thank God, because thestate of Texas, you know,
basically wrote her district offthe map and this is, you know,
a good thing for for the stateof Texas and for a constituency.
But this is shameful.
Like any politician that willlower themselves to this should

(59:57):
be ashamed.
Truthfully, it's dishonest, itdoesn't serve anyone well and,
truthfully, it just shows howlittle integrity you have as a
person, let alone as apolitician.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Yeah, and you know this is another example of and
we've talked about it indifferent contexts before about
the conduct and behavior ofmembers of Congress and
government leaders, officials,and how they should be publicly
behaving, and that is, you know,simply to uphold a standard of
conduct, of dress and speakingand behavior and all of those

(01:00:35):
things.
And I, for one, would reallyreally like to see that enforced
, and I don't really know how itgets enforced.
I mean, I guess it's by what'sthe word I'm looking for when
they shut them down there inCongress.
I can't even come up with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
They have all the rules right they have all the
rules.
It's the rules of order, I think, rules of conduct, but there's
a fine system in place andthere's other things.
You know, if things arecentered, if their conduct is so
severe, they can be censored.
In fact, the New Jerseycongresswoman who assaulted the
federal officer a few months ago, they just voted on her censure

(01:01:11):
today, which got denied, soshe's not going to be censured.
There was a number ofRepublicans that did not blindly
follow party lines.
Ok, fine, I can appreciate thatand of course, the entire
Democratic side voted not tocensure her.
So a few Republicans flippedover and she's not going to be
censured.
But that is one of the things.
You know.
The highest probably punishmentthat can be inflicted is to be

(01:01:34):
censured out.
You know most of these peopledon't care about fines and
whatnot.
But, yeah, rules of conductmatter and we should expect more
.
As much as we want them to beregular citizens and represent
their district the way that theyshould, we do expect a little
better conduct out of them, butreally what we expect out of
them is honesty.
As you said, if she spoke likethis all the time and got

(01:01:55):
elected like that, and that washer normal vocabulary, that was
her normal diction and how shespoke.
Fine, I have no problem withthat, but the fact that it's so
dishonest and blatant, thatspeaks to her character, or lack
thereof.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Yes, absolutely Completely, and I, for one, I'm
tired of it.
I have no problem calling itout.
I could care less if some pearlclutching Karen in the comment
section wants to call me aracist and throw you know straw
man fallacy arguments.
I mean, knock yourself out,honey, until you're blue in the
face.
Go go take your soy latte to arally, please, and just shut up.

(01:02:29):
I could care less, oh, but yeah, oh, my goodness, we did it, we
got them all and that was, um,not too bad for a slow news week
.
Not for a slow news week, oh,my goodness.
Okay, guys, thank you so muchfor joining us for another
episode, another show.
It was always, always great totalk over these topics with you,

(01:02:59):
clay, and get your side of thethoughts there and half the time
calm me down.
But listen, guys, I'm going tolet Clay close it out, but I
just want to give you thereminder to stay for the end.
Watch that closer for us,please.
You can check it out and getall the links and stuff.
So, clay, go ahead, do yourthing.

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