From NYC Shooter to International Tsunamis: This Week's Breaking Headlines

From a devastating mass shooting at the NFL headquarters to political corruption revelations, we tackle an unprecedented nine hot topics affecting America today.

• Las Vegas security guard traveled cross-country to commit mass shooting at NFL headquarters, killing four people
• Shocking Cincinnati street beating where only one person called 911 despite hundreds of witnesses
• New evidence suggests Obama administration directed intelligence officials to rewrite assessments before Trump's inauguration 
• Massive 8.7 magnitude earthquake in Japan triggered tsunami warnings from Alaska to California
• Ghislaine Maxwell attempts to negotiate immunity in exchange for names but gets rejected
• President Trump secures major EU trade deal worth billions while overseas
• Rep. Jasmine Crockett tries unsuccessfully to block unflattering Atlantic article about herself
• Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle jeans ad campaign sparks outrage from liberal critics
• WNBA continues embarrassing downward spiral with multiple on-court incidents

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the Elsa Kirk Show, with Clay Novak serving up
trending news and conservativeviews Brought to you by the Elsa
Kirk Collection and RefugeMedical.
And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, well, well.
Another week, another big, bigbatch of topics.
I think we're outdoingourselves this week and there's
still so many more.
We could have thrown in there,right so much stuff.
But as usual, clay, you pickedsome really, really good ones.
How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm good.
I have to apologize toeverybody for last week.
So last week Elsa was inFlorida awaiting grandbaby
number four.
I was going to take the show onmy own.
I was going to take the show onmy own, I was sick as a dog and
I actually did what I think.
I said 46 minutes and then allof a sudden, the show locked up,
Our website locked up andwithout Elsa, I am

(00:54):
technologically helpless and Iaccidentally erased the entire
show and I was so tired and sickI was like I can't do this
again.
So I apologize to everybody.
We didn't have a show last week100% my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Technology is great until it isn't right, like until
it just screws us over, and itloves to do that.
So, yeah, yes, no worries.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I feel worse for you that you, you pushed through,
you powered through it, and thenthat that had to be just one of
those like pick up the, thelaptop and throw it moments yeah
, it was a, uh, it was a break,something important kind of
moment and I did not.
But I also was like I can't trythis again.
So I apologize 100 my fumbledfootball show.

(01:38):
But we're making up for it,because I think, if I counted
right, I think we are at anall-time high, potentially nine.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it's nine.
Yeah, I'm looking right nowNine, nine topics, so we are
ready.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
We don't have time to waste.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah no, no, kidding, Actually you know what, Clay,
let's, we're going to jump rightinto it.
I don't even have, I don't evenhave our fun little little
segue intro thing.
So I suck.
I'm still guys, I'm still outof sorts.
I'll give you the quick lowdown.
I'm going to take up a fewseconds.
I went on, as you know, to awaitgrandbaby number four.

(02:14):
I got there on Thursday.
Her due date was Friday.
Friday came and went as well asthe rest of the week and plus a
few more days I left, came homethis past Saturday.
Baby number four arrived thispast Monday and I was not there
for it.
So you can all imagine what anot happy camper I am.

(02:35):
But I am ecstatic and thrilledand we're all so blessed.
She is healthy, beautiful,perfect, wonderful and all is
well.
So that's the most importantthing and I'm counting down the
days until I get there again.
So that's that.
So that is my big update.
Thank you, guys, all in advancefor all of your prayers and
well wishes.
Clay, as you can agree, we havelike the best support system

(03:03):
here on our, on our show, andeverybody's always so, so kind
and gracious and and encouragingand all of that stuff.
So thank you again, Thank youin advance.
But yeah, on to the many, manytopics.
So we got to start.
It was a toss up, but I'm goingwith this one.
Clay, this is our startingpoint, right?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, so this happened, you know what's?
Two days ago.
So Shane Devon Tamura drove aLas Vegas resident security
guard possessor of a concealedcarry permit in Nevada, slash
Las Vegas, the city, decided todrive across country in his

(03:39):
personal vehicle with a coupleof weapons, including an AR
rifle.
Drove all the way to New YorkCity and if you've seen like
they've tracked his movementthrough tollbooths and those
kinds of things, I'm fairlyconfident that he drove straight
through or fairly close fromLas Vegas to New York.
Drove all the way into the city, double parked his BMW, got out

(04:02):
with his rifle and walked intoan office building which houses,
among other things, the NFLheadquarters, and decided to
start shooting people.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, so OK.
So I think there's probablystill some conflicting messages
on you.
Know what the motive was, whatall those things are.
The latest that I've heard isthat they believe he was
targeting someone specificallywithin the NFL headquarters.
I honestly don't know theaccuracy of that.
I think it's probably going tobe a little bit before we get

(04:33):
the full scope of the picture.
There was some screenshots of anote of sorts in his pocket
that they extracted that talkedabout having I forget what it's
called I'm drawing up like I'mjust called but a brain injury
typical from sports, fromfootball specifically.

(04:55):
So there's no record.
I don't think of him playingfootball Again, don't know.
Guys, I am catching up oneverything.
I was in toddler land for acouple of weeks.
I'm like two steps behind oneverything.
So bear with me, and Clay isgoing to do a lot of correcting
on me today, I think.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
So what you're talking about?
What you're talking about isCTE, thank you.
And CTE is a result of numerousconcussions, and the
speculation is that this youngman had a beef with the NFL
because he was a high schoolfootball player, diagnosed
himself, I think, with CTE,because you can't be diagnosed

(05:35):
with CTE until after you're deadand after they cut your brain
open.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And that was part of his request right for them to
study his brain in this note.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I caught a piece of that but it was, yes, this
argument about CTE.
And listen, folks, I'vementioned this, probably more
than once, so I'm about a dozenconcussions in my life,
everything, yeah, everything,from being full contact boy to
lifelong soccer player, tojumping out of planes for 10
years to close proximity highexplosives, you know, while
deployed, for 10 years, to closeproximity, high explosives, you

(06:07):
know, while deployed.
So I picked up a number in thatthat you know, through medical
exams, a number of high levelmedical exams, the best number
they can guess is 12.
Cte, you know, scares the crapout of me.
And the thing about CTE it'sbeen diagnosed post-mortem in a
number of former NFL players isthere's this propensity for
violence, you know, as you know,and a number of these have
ended up being murder-suicide.

(06:28):
They do the post-mortem, youknow the autopsy and they find
out CTE.
You know violent acts, suicideby cop and some other things.
So you know this is a concern.
I would tell you that whilethis young man, you know, had
some issue with the NFL becausehe thinks this is football
related or he self-diagnosed um,I would not go that far.

(06:49):
Uh one, you know the diagnosis.
Obviously we can't, we won'tknow until they, until they do
that autopsy, and they may noteven release that to the public.
But also this this is a matterof playing football.
This isn't the NFL's fault,it's not.
You know that would be like me.
You know I chose to play soccereven up until a couple of years

(07:12):
ago.
You know all the years I spentin the Army, all the years I
still jump out of planes, folks,I still do right Me.
Blaming anybody for the TBIsthat I have is great, it's
ludicrous.
But that begs the questionanybody who drives from Las
Vegas to New York with theintent of causing harm, he
clearly had some mental issues.
Now, are they a result oftraumatic brain injury and

(07:32):
potentially CTE?
We won't know until thatautopsy is done.
Unfortunately, you know, fourpeople were killed beyond
himself.
He did kill himself on the 33rdfloor, shot himself in the
chest, but there were fourpeople that were killed,
including an off-duty policeofficer acting as a security

(07:53):
guard.
Diriduk Islam, I think, was thegentleman's name, the officer's
name, which is obviously notthat anybody you know won more
value than any of the rest.
There were four people killed.
One of them happened to be anoff duty police officer.
So you know, of course, theimmediate.
There were some fumbles by CNN.
I don't know if you saw this ornot.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh, I saw it and have it, let's take a look.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
They do not know who he is.
They know he is a male,possibly white.
He's wearing sunglasses.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
He appears to have a mustache and that picture has
been distributed to every policeofficer in New York City.
Now that is their screenshotand everything.
And to sit there and say thatand to be not corrected by the
other person, I mean, come onnow, just come on, enough
already.
Just take this, take them offof the air.
Cnn has to go.

(08:50):
It's.
It is beyond absurd Now thattook the cake for absurdity and
they've done so much and said somuch.
That is beyond the pale, it'sridiculous.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's, you know, possibly white is also, possibly
black is also, possibly Asian,right, possibly Hispanic is
possibly a lot of things.
That obviously is, you know,stick both feet in your mouth at
the same time, kind of astatement, and you're right.
And that CNN, you know, hostslet it pass.
And that is part of thenarrative that is always

(09:20):
attempted to be driven intothese things before anyone knows
anything.
Always, uh, attempted to bedriven into these things before
anyone knows anything.
Um, and you know, and then ofcourse, that fell apart.
No redaction, no apology thatI've seen from cnn about that.
Um, you know.
And then you've got, of course,the uh.
Mayor adams, you know, is uhfrom new york, is, you know,
touting anti-gun laws, anti-2stuff?

(09:42):
You're getting that from a lotof people.
Listen, this guy drove fromacross the country.
This has nothing to do with gunlaws.
You can ban those rifles in 49states.
If somebody decides thatthey're going to break the law
and get one, they're going toget one.
It is what it is argue, and Iwould argue to the contrary, in

(10:02):
that had someone besides asecurity guard been in there,
been in the area, been armed,that this may not have lasted as
long as it did.
You could argue that point aswell.
It's all speculation.
It's also crappy timing.
I know everyone wants toimmediately politicize these
things, but we have got to, inthe order of humanity, get

(10:24):
beyond that right, deal with thecause of this, in this case,
probably a mental health issueor a physiological issue.
But you've got four dead peoplefive if you include the shooter
and of course, we immediatelygo to politicize what happened,
as opposed to dealing with theroot cause of this and really in
the immediate effect andaftermath on the four families

(10:47):
that are affected and even thefifth family, including the
shooter, of the people that diedon the scene.
So we need to grow up on thesethings, including the network,
including politicians.
Take a breath, you know.
Do some analysis, figure outwhat happened, politicize it
after we figure out what reallyhappened, right.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
And that goes for both sides, right, because both
sides.
You have one side automatically, instantaneously saying must be
a republican, I bet he's one ofthose, mac the people.
And the other side is saying,no doubt it's a liberal, you
know, crazy liberal, and youknow either one of those things
could be true, but we don't knowso.
So how about wait to find out,find out what the motive is,
find out what's going on?
You know, and, like you said,the clearest conclusion to come
from this is, in any incidentlike this is that this is a

(11:33):
person like this is the commondenominator.
This is a person suffering frommental illness.
Nobody in their right mind willdo something like this and you
can't even call this like a fitof rage.
You know it's a, you know theyhave those rage crimes.
You don't, you don't, you can't.
You physically, mentally,cannot sustain rage for that

(11:53):
length of time.
So it's not.
You know it's it was.
I even know if you can call itpremeditated, if this is
somebody who's not in theirright mind.
I mean, you know there's somepremeditation, but it's not of
right mind.
So that's the commondenominator every single time.
And I know somebody on our sideof things will say no, the
common denominator is thatthey're always liberals.
You know, that's true in a lotof cases, not all the cases.

(12:15):
And to Clay's point, what doesit even matter?
Like what does it even matter?
At this point, get to the coreissue, which is not guns, it is
mental illness and our handlingof it and, and I think really,
the people who instigate andfuel not necessarily in this
specific case, this seems like,you know, kind of a really just

(12:39):
a freak thing, really.
You know, this wasn'tpolitically motivated, he wasn't
going after a political figureor someone for their own
political affiliations.
You know, this was simply and Ihate to make it so, you know,
simple, but to say that this wassomebody who was suffering with
some type of psychotic breakand this is what happened from

(13:00):
it.
So what can we do?
How can we improve the way wehandle mental illness?
Because we know that theinstitutions are overrun,
they're just filled to capacity.
The whole system itself is slow.
There's, no, there's and we'vetalked about this before, we
talked about this with parentsof children who have done these

(13:22):
things and you know, andeverybody's so quick to attack
the parents and say, well, they,you know they must have been
being really bad parents.
They could very easily and veryprobably be parents who have
tried everything to get theiradults in these cases often
children the care that they need, and their hands are tied for
all the reasons we talked aboutlast time.
You made so many good pointswith that in that last

(13:44):
conversation.
So you know, echoing Clay again, stop with all the extra, the
noise.
Just stop with all the stupidnoise that always comes around.
All of this.
Get to the root.
Do what we can do feasibly andagain, you're never gonna be
able to eliminate thiscompletely.
This is a sad fact of life, youknow.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, and it's, you know, it's a statement on where
we are as the, you know, as the,not just as a nation, but as
the humanity as it stands rightnow.
Is this, you know, acceptablelevel of violence across every,
you know, medium that we look at, whether it's social media,
whether it's movies andtelevision, whether it's you
know, and listen, I'm a guy whowrites this stuff.

(14:28):
Right, I write action fictionand, and you know so, you know,
I could, I could lay blame orlay responsibility on even what
I produces as an author, but wecollectively need to take a look
at really where, where we're atand what is acceptable in
public, right, you know, I mean,this is the violence as a

(14:49):
solution.
Solver is not it, you know, butunfortunately that's where we
are right now and you know, thiskind of bleeds into our second
you know subject that we'regoing to hit tonight, and this
is this, you know issue inCincinnati.
And, folks, if you haven't seenthis, um, and if you have a
squeamish stomach, um, this isprobably not something that you
really want to watch because itis, it's, it's tough to take.

(15:11):
Um, it's probably I, I, one ofmy, you know, I always measure
things against if you've everseen the movie American history
X, which is one of the mostviolent.
There's a B, a street beatingscene in that, that movie.
That is like it's upsetting,you know, as a guy who you know
was surrounded by violence as anadult, um, to see that movie,
this, this beating is not quitethat bad, but it is really,

(15:33):
really rough to handle.
So, um, a few days ago inCincinnati, uh, you know,
outside of a, uh, a number ofbusinesses, but specifically a
club named, uh, I think it's bigL, small O, big V, small E, uh,
fairly new club in Cincinnati,uh, in and, amongst a couple of
things, there's a jazz festgoing on.
There was a big three on threesoccer tournament going on.

(15:54):
There was, um a Cincinnati Redsgame that night.
There's a lot of people on thestreet late at night in
Cincinnati, um, but outside ofthis club, on the street, um, a
man was beaten right.
So he was attacked, seemingly,from what we know right now
based on the video unprovoked,and then a couple of folks,

(16:15):
specifically a woman, tried tostep in and protect him.
She also got attacked, gotknocked unconscious, got hit,
hit the ground.
Her head hit the pavement.
She was out like a light,unconscious, got hit, hit the
ground, her head hit thepavement.
She was out like a light.
People continued to jump in andbeat this guy on the ground.
More, there were approximatelyestimate of about a hundred
people observed this, whether itwas on their, you know, walking
by, passing by or driving by.

(16:36):
There was one 9-1-1 call, folks, one, um, and, and the only
person who stepped in was thiswoman and she got knocked out as
well.
Yeah, and so the Cincinnatipolice responded to the one nine
, one, one call which you know,by all accounts, their response
time was within reason to thesingle yeah, not the other

(16:57):
ninety nine people who stood byand either filmed it or didn't
do anything Right.
And then there's been five,five, uh, people charged, three
arrested, um.
The victims have not been named.
Have you seen names?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Not that I'm looking for them, but I have not, yeah,
no, I have not yet.
Um, I yeah, I've seen thevideos too, against my better
judgment.
Uh, absolutely awful it it's.
It is so sickening.
You feel just a wave ofsickness in the pit of your
stomach and your heart too.
How are we behaving like thisin society?

(17:35):
What mentality, what kind ofperson people can stand around?
And obviously the participantsare the, you know, I don't know.
Are they the worst?
The people watching are theworst.
The people cheering it on andrecording it, those are the
monsters I feel.
Like you know, we would have tolike sit and really wrap our

(17:57):
brains around it, like there hasto be some type of law or
something put into effect thatmakes that a crime of some sort.
Like you know, if you have tobe, you have to be a mandated
reporter for abuse, right?
If somebody's abusing a childand you work in a certain field,
you know whether you're ateacher, doctor, you know all of

(18:19):
these different fields, andthat makes you a mandated
reporter.
So if you suspect abuse, youare required by law to call it
in.
Basically, so why can't we comeup with something like that If
you are recording a crime andnot doing anything about it, and
I'm sure there's all kinds ofthings that you can counter this
with.
But just as a general statementright now, why not?

(18:40):
Why not?
That should be illegal to do?
You should face criminalcharges.
That if you do nothing and I'mnot saying that you have to jump
in like that woman did You'dlike to think that people would
do that, as we have witnessedthis time and many other times.
They don't.
In this day and age is recordit and posted to social media
and get the, get the likes andthe follows and the views on it

(19:02):
and, you know, give commentarythroughout, which is even more
disgusting.
But yeah, I don't know, am I,am I wrong, clay?
I mean, I feel like therereally should be criminal
charges for anyone who does that.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, I think it would be probably very tough to
prove, but I think it's thatshould be the goal.
I don't disagree with you.
I think you know we would wanta society that would step in
somehow.
You know, I think I even sawyou on social media.
I think you or somebody askedyou or you responded to maybe a
post about would you step in andhelp a law enforcement officer

(19:32):
in this address, which I knowobviously you would, because you
know law enforcementspecifically for you, your
husband, et cetera.
But we as a society shouldexpect that right.
I can tell you personally that Ihave pulled over for a number
of accidents along the way, likebefore first responders are
there.
I found cars in ditches.
I found all kinds of thingslike that's what?
And oh, by the way, watchpeople drive by, right, and I

(19:57):
get it.
Some people are not capable,right?
Not everybody can handle thesight of blood.
Not everybody can get involvedphysically to deter something
like this from happening.
Everybody has a cell phone,yeah, right.
So, yeah, I think probably theplace to start is if you film
something like this and post it.
I think you should be, you know, like if you're not walking up

(20:20):
to the police with that filmfootage and going, hey, listen,
I prosecute all these peoplelike that.
But if you're like you said,who's commenting on it, posting
it on social media for clicksand likes, but not doing
anything but filming it, yeah, Ithink you should be held
accountable in some way, shapeor form.
I think that's a human being.
However, now you start gettinginto the freedom you know free
will freedom, choice freedom,blah, blah, blah.

(20:42):
Know there's a, there's a fineline.
I think that we need to find inthere, but we should expect
more from fellow americans onthings like this.
Um, there have been three peoplearrested.
One of these guys, myunderstanding is, was out on
bond when this happened.
So and a you know multiplecharges.
Uh kind of offense like he wasreleased was, you know his bond

(21:03):
was posted at four,000.
He paid 400, the normal 10% andhe walked away on some pretty
significant charges and then wasout.
And you know it was a part ofthis.
It was one of the people, partof it, so that's a problem.
Um, and I know that there'speople getting involved.
The the uh, you know thefraternal order of police took
this film footage, posted it andsaid this is your justice
system, because they weretalking about the guy who was

(21:25):
involved.
You've got mayors, you've gotthe vice president, who is from
Ohio.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, we actually.
We have that.
He had some strong words for aman who sucker punched a middle
aged woman.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
That person ought to go to jail for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
And frankly, he's lucky there weren't some better
people around because they wouldhandle it yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yep, he had some strong words for it.
He had a little bit more to say,mad enough to swear about it
too, which, rightly so, made mewant to swear.
Yeah, you know there's so manyfactors here in both of these
cases.
You know it is a societalbreakdown.
Obviously desensitized from thehorrors of things like that,

(22:10):
you know the reality of it andthat's mental illness in itself,
like what is going on in yourbrain that you can look at a man
being a woman more thananything, being beaten and
kicked to the ground and leftfor dead.
Essentially, I think there wasat one point someone was
grabbing her arm and yanking her.

(22:31):
You know she's unconscious, sheis out, and they're just
grabbing her and yanking at herand then the man was just
getting kicked and kicked andkicked and punched and beat and
the whole thing, and no one isjumping in to stop.
This Like this is such a agrotesque representation of what
we've become as the society andthings have to change and they

(22:53):
have to be really harsh anddrastic, you know, actually a
stiffer punishment foreverything.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Backtrack it a little bit and maybe look at a good
Samaritan law in the, because Ithink a lot of people don't act
because we become such alitigious society that if, like,
say, the guy's on the groundand he's getting the crap kicked
out of him, right, and ClayNovak's standing on the street
and I roll over there and closefist and I jack the dude that's
beating him up right Now, thepolice are going to come at some

(23:23):
point, I'm probably going to bearrested, right.
If that film footage comes andit says hey, look, all he was
doing was protecting this guy,that should be like a catch and
release no bond, no charge.
You know if the police can lookat it and say, clearly, you
stepped in to protect that guyor that lady on the ground.
Good for you, have a nice night, go about your way.
We'll probably call you for awitness statement.
Like that, I think, wouldprobably be more encouraging to

(23:47):
for people to act, you know, ifthey know the level of
protection in the, in the system.
But I think a lot of peoplehave that hesitation of well, if
I step in, one, you're riskingyourself, but two, you might get
arrested, you might end up inthe holding cell.
You might be the one.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh yeah, look at Daniel Penny Talk about, you
know, discouragement for doingthe right thing, you know.
I mean that is you know theultimate discouragement for
doing the right thing.
And I know we just had aanother big incident Gentlemen
stepped in and stopped a major,worse calamity at the grocery
store yeah, walmart, um, and youknow he did step in, he did

(24:31):
stop.
Uh, stop this guy from moredamage.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
You know right, drew his gun, held the guy locked
till the police showed up andthey got an arrest a marine as
well.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
He was a marine yeah, I love those marines.
You know I love them.
Yeah, so, but yes, but theseare, these are the exceptions
now, not the rule.
You know, and for all of thereasons that you said, clay,
that you know people are afraidof the repercussions and, yeah,
I think that, I think you'reright, I think that's a great
place to start.
You know, with everybody withtheir cell phones now and their

(25:05):
cameras out for every singleincident, it'll be easy enough
to prove.
So you know, and all thesurveillance cameras that are
always around.
So you know you can prove whatyou were doing there.
But man, oh man, that was.
That was disheartening, to saythe least.
It was.
It was horrifying more thananything, but really
disheartening to to see thatkind of behavior and also to the

(25:28):
.
Who was she?
The police chief?
A couple of things bothered me,in addition to the obvious One
that it kept getting referred toas being a fight.
You know the mainstream media.
That was not a fight, that wasa beating, that was an attack,
that was a mob attacking oneperson.
Well, two people technicallystarted off with one person.

(25:49):
Obviously that was not a fight,that was a vicious, violent mob
assault is what it was.
So let's not get that twisted.
And then the other thing I thinkthe police chief there was
making kind of more of a bigdeal about the fact that people
didn't call and, you know,weren't calling the police in

(26:09):
and everything.
She said something else man, Ican't remember what she said.
Something else that was kind ofeyebrow raising.
If I find it, I'm going to putit up in here, but yeah, so her
response and reaction was verycritical of the people around,
but not critical of the peopledoing the attacking.
You know, and and it's that youknow, politically correct mind
mindset, you know they don'twant to get the, get these, a

(26:31):
certain group of people, angryand to cause more problems when
you know the reality is is youshould be coming down hard on on
the violence, on theperpetrators of the violence,
and you know, yes, thebystanders, yeah, that's a
problem.
You definitely should be morethan chastised for your lack of
action there.
But yeah, it's kind ofdeflecting when it's coming from
them.
I feel like yeah, for sure.

(26:54):
Mm-hmm, but so we'll see.
We'll see what happens withthat.
If you know, I don't know Iwould like to see the charges be
as extreme and severe as theypossibly can be.
I personally would throw anattempted murder there because
you're still going at him whenhe's clearly down.
This isn't a fight, you know.
This is way more than that.
But yeah, other crazy stuff inthe world, Different but still

(27:17):
crazy.
Wow, 8.7 or 8.8.
I mean, I guess you know thepoint doesn't matter so much
when you're up that high, butthat was wild and scary because
you know, obviously theearthquake itself, but the
resulting tsunami, you know, ortsunamis, Talk about scary stuff
, Holy cow, yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
So my understanding is it was like you said.
I've seen both 8.7 and 8.8, butthe highest reported earthquake
is since they've started.
They have record and then, yes,like you said, the tsunamis
that followed.
I think the good part is isthat they gave everybody as much

(28:01):
advanced warning as possible,and it literally in the United
States.
They kicked it from Alaska allthe way down the coast to
Southern California and thenobviously Hawaiian Islands,
always, you know, in the middleof this.
So everybody got a lot ofwarning.
I know there were very specificwarnings put out get all of the
boats out of all of the harborsin the Hawaiian Islands
specifically.
I actually watched a very quickanimation of all of the

(28:21):
tracking that they did to watchall of these boats get out of
all of these harbors all overthe place, because they just
turn into debris right, and youknow they were talking.
Estimates were between threeand twelve additional feet on
top of tidal waves.
So you know if this hit at hightide right in some of the
places in hawaii you're talking20 footers and then plus another

(28:42):
12 feet right, 32 foot waves.
Um, but there was plenty ofwarning given out.
Now that what I've said this amillion times, mother nature,
father time, undefeated.
Right, um, within a half anhour of this, you know of our
recording which, again, westarted on Wednesday at two, 30
Eastern time.
Um, so, within the 30 minutesbefore that, um it, the waves

(29:05):
were making landfall.
Hawaii and California.
Um, so we haven't.
So we haven't, we don't knowthe extent of any damage at this
point, but in preparation onthe, you know, in the hawaiian
islands there's two main roads,because otherwise, if you've
never been to hawaii, you know,like I think, it's highway, is
it one?
Or the 101, whatever it is,that drives around the island.
Right, it's funniest interstatein the interstate system

(29:26):
because it doesn't interstate toanything.
Yeah, it doesn't interstate,but there were two roads that go
over the mountains to get tothe other side, to get to higher
ground, to get away from thecoast.
One of them is Koli Koli Pass,which is owned by the Department
of Defense, I think it's jointbased both Army and Navy, and

(29:52):
that was opened up and and themilitary has done this many
times in the past, or badweather, for volcano evacuation,
for all of those kinds ofthings, fires and whatever they
have opened Coley Coley pass tocivilian traffic and basically
said hey, listen, get on here,don't divert, drive to the other
side and then get off overthere.
Fine, no big deal.
Um, but also there was a privateroad that it took a number of
hours to be opened up.
Are you trying to private roadowned by one each?

(30:16):
Oprah Winfrey Interesting?
Yeah, spawned until an hourslater with a bunch of public
pressure coming her way to openher private road to gain the
same type of access as ColeyColey Pass.
Now, she did open it, orwhoever's responsible.
I don't think she lives there,but it's property she owns.
Whoever is responsible finallyopened the road.

(30:37):
Probably should have been donehours earlier, with or without
her permission, just as, again,a humanitarian kind of thing.
But she is all about being agood humanitarian, so you know
yeah, um, so thankfully we won'tknow folks like, by the time

(30:59):
this airs, we will know theextent of the damage, uh, but
right now, as we record, we haveno idea how small or large this
is, as it impacts the Hawaiianislands and the coast of
California.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, praying for them.
I hope that you know the I'msorry you did say about the tide
, Was it or is it, Don't know?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Okay, If it's high or low tide.
What they were saying was plus3 to 12 feet on whatever tidal
waves that they have.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Got it Okay.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Like I said, you get some 20-footers.
You know 20 plus footers on theNorth Shore of Hawaii.
Add 32, you know, add 12 feetto that, now you're in the 32 to
35 foot range.
And now you're talking a lot ofsignificant destruction
potential.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
So yeah, yeah, it's scary.
I saw some of the you knowoverall, enough talk.
The ticky-tocky Late last nightsaw some of the video and
images of people evacuatingdifferent areas I think probably
California, I think it was andyou know you look at that and
it's so overwhelming becauseit's just bumper-to-bumper cars
and nobody's moving and you'renot going anywhere.

(32:00):
So that sense of panic has tobe just awful.
And especially, you alwaysthink of or at least I always
think of, you know, if they havesmall children and just all of
those things and your whole life.
You know, you don't know if,when you drive away, if you're
ever going to see your, your,your entire life's belongings
ever again.
And I know, you know, we allknow the most important thing is
your, your life and your safetyand your loved ones and

(32:22):
everything.
But it doesn't change the factthat know all your memories and
all of your things that could bejust gone in you know seconds.
So very, very scary stuff.
We'll, um, you know we'll belike the rest of you keeping an
eye on, um, what happens nextthere as far as damage and and
hope that it's, uh, you know, asminimal as it possibly can be
right yeah, yeah, that's all wecan do right now, because, again

(32:44):
, mother nature, mother natureyeah, yeah, you can't fight her.
She's gonna do what she's gonnado and we're just gonna have to
deal with it as best we can.
But, uh, what do we got next?
We got a couple choices we cango with.
Next, you have a preference?
No, we're so easy going this,this, uh yeah I know, yeah, I
know, let's not.
Let's just, let's just go.
I'll go right in the order thatI have them listed here.

(33:06):
Why not, right, um?
So the latest on this is uh,ghislaine Maxwell.
Um was trying to get herself asweetheart deal here.
Uh, offering up.
Yeah, jenna's generous of herman.
If she's not, if she's not oneof the most hated women on the
planet, she damn well should be,she really should.
She is such a vile human and Iget she's doing, of course she's

(33:28):
doing what she's doing.
You know, like, oh, you want meto talk?
You know it's exactly whatevery single criminal would say,
and do you know?
And I get that.
But so, yeah, so she offered totalk.
She'll tell you, I'll spill it.
She told him I'll spill thebeans if you either give me
clemency, immunity, this, thatand the other.
She's just throwing them allout there, her lawyer throwing

(33:50):
them all out there, and, as ofright now, that's all been
declined.
They said that's not going tohappen.
Thankfully, they're saying thatand I would hope that they
stick to that, because if you'regiving me a choice, honestly,
if you're giving me a choice andI could be wrong here of giving
her a break break.
Essentially for spilling thenames, um and letting that woman

(34:10):
walk, um, I have a problem withthat.
She should be in prison forlife.
She should never see the lightof day.
Um, but I get it.
I mean I, I, I get the the.
The contrast to that which islike you could get all of the
names.
You know, you could get all ofthese people.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I would drink.
I personally would drink, yeahso she's supposed to thank her
so much well, she's supposed totestify on august 11th to a
house oversight committee andthat's who she made the offer
her lawyer made the offer to.
Supposedly she's been modelcitizen, she's been, you know,
she has uh, interviewed alreadywith department of justice and
then she's got this um houseoversight committee.
Uh, you know, testimony that'ssupposed to happen on August

(34:49):
11th and you're right, sheoffered everything she asked, or
she asked for everything.
And so she asked for immunityand clemency and all of that
stuff.
And you know the response fromthe House committee was no.
And so you know she's going totestify as it stands right now
and I can almost promise youthey're going to bring her into
the house.

(35:09):
She's going to plead the FifthAmendment and they're going to
get nothing more than what theyhave now and then, and she will
spend the rest of her life injail even though she's a
prisoner, she's acting as amodel prisoner and she's trying
to get parole.
She won't.
I personally would cut a dealwith her that would be somewhere
along the lines of if, if,willing, you know, if her

(35:30):
lawyer's willing a, you know,minimum, medium security, no
chance of parole, but a decentlife for the exchange of
everything that she knows andthe name that she knows.
Because what it in the back ofmy head.
What bothers me is why and itmay be as simple as your

(35:53):
reasoning why is the houseoversight committee not
entertaining deal with her?
Why are they saying no?
Who are they worried aboutwhat's?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Like there's more people of importance to be
exposed and you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Like there's potential for people of
importance to be exposed and,you know, is this House of
Representatives Committeecomplicit in that by not
striking a deal with her?
And that's kind of where I havea little bit of you know.
You know me in my spidey senses, like there's something not
right about this, but we do haveone last kind of potential is

(36:27):
that this has been thrown at theSupreme Court and so when we
come back into session inSeptember.
They are going to have the ninejustices, are going to have a
private discussion aboutentertaining the.
You know her testimony and theentire case.
So we'll have to see what comesout of that.
But I disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I just don't want to see her walking away.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm with you on that, but I disagree with you.
I just don't want to see herwalking away.
I'm with you on that, but Ithink there's so much more
information out there that wedon't know and won't know that I
would be willing to give hersome respite in exchange for
good information.
But you just don't know whatshe's going to tell you until
she tells you Right, like agreat deal, and she goes.
I don't know, jack, you know,and then, you're screwed.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, she could easily say well, I'll tell you.
Sure, I'll tell you everythingthat I know.
Unfortunately, I just don'tknow anything.
Sorry, guys, thank you Bye.
Yeah, you know, I, I, I don'tknow, I just, yes, getting those
names is important.
But you know, here's the flipside for me with that, which is

(37:30):
I feel like they know already.
So what do they need her for?
I feel like all of thisinformation already exists and
is in their grasp, so do theyjust need her to confirm it
because she is a firsthandparticipant?
What do you really even needher?
It so is she bluffing, does she?
Why does she matter that much?

(37:51):
Like, is this just a show forall of us to make it look like
you know?
No, we're, you know, we'regoing to try our damnedest to
get that information for you.
But you I mean my understandingis, and I know there's no list,
there are files that it's justsemantics, right, like list file
, call it.
Whatever the hell you want tocall it, you have it.

(38:13):
I believe that you have all ofthe damning information that you
need.
So I don't really know whywe're, you know, hyper focusing
on her again, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
That's a valid question.
I mean it's a valid question ofif we have testimony and we have
the testimony of the victims,right, those young ladies who
were trafficked and we have thetestimony of the victims, right,
those young ladies who weretrafficked.
We care why, but that tells methat somebody thinks that there
is more there, or there's they.
They do need more, or assumethat she knows more than what
she's told.
So, game of cat and mouse, andI think there's, there's some

(38:45):
gambling that needs to be done.
You know across the board, andit's just a matter of how much
are you willing to gamble.
And, and you know across theboard, and it's just a matter of
how much are you willing togamble.
And you know, I think you'remore.
You know, bird in hand.
We got her, we're probably notgoing to know anymore, and let's
just see where she's at.
And I think I'm in the mindsetof let's take a little bit more

(39:05):
risk and see if there's more outthere, right, we'll see what
happens.
I do think that ultimately,this is going to go to the
Supreme Court and the SupremeCourt to go.
We're not touching it and Ithink they're going to kick it
back down to a lower level courtand she just may rot in prison
forever and we may havesomething else.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, yeah, I tend to think that's what.
What's going to happen, I mean,if she gets released I can't
imagine anyone being OK withthat to that is, if she gives up
enough names, credit, you know,if she gives credible, useful
information to lock some othermajor players up in this whole
disgusting uh thing.

(39:40):
You know, I I don't know, wewill see.
We're gonna keep watching it.
We'll keep watching and keeprecording on it as uh, as stuff
comes up, uh, next in, like, weare doing good, we're plowing
through these.
We're doing good.
I think we're going to do this.
I think so.
Yeah, right, let's talk aboutObamagate.
So we all know what's going onhere.
Right, we all know TulsaGabbard came out swinging,

(40:02):
basically with treasonallegations.
She accused the Obamaadministration of using
fabricated, fabricatedintelligence in 2016 to sabotage
Trump's presidential campaign.
A declassified appendix to theHorowitz report shows the FBI
ignored evidence of classifiedemails tied to Obama on Hillary
Clinton's server.
And there's, you know, tons ofother stuff too.

(40:25):
Like this is, you know?
This is just kind of thesummary here.
Trump, of course, presidentTrump is, of course, echoing the
claim he had we'll show this.
Do I have it?
Yeah, he had some choice wordsto say about it it was all Obama
, this was all Biden.
These people were corrupt, thewhole thing was corrupt and we
caught them.
It was the greatest politicalcrime in the history of our

(40:46):
country.
So, yep, so he had that to sayabout it.
Uh, as we know I believe it wascnn again, um, cut away when
tulsi was giving her report.
They just started talking rightover.
They kept the, the video up, uh, the live video up of her, but
as soon as she started givingsome details like and anyhow, so

(41:07):
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,you know, la, la, la, la, la, la
, la, la, la la is what theywere basically doing, that was
the equivalent.
So you know how, how, howpathetic is that.
So you know, here we are stillhaving approximately half the
country I would like to thinkway less than that that are
sitting there going.
You know, conspiracy theory.
It's a lie.
We don't.
We don't know what they'retalking about.

(41:28):
I don't know.
Seems pretty real to me.
What do you think, clay?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
So this is one of the topics this was actually the
opening topic that I blunderedlast week.
So you know what this stemsfrom is they found an email that
was not, you know, erased,destroyed.
Whatever they found it and itis from the former DNI, circa
fall of 2016, his executiveassistant.
And so what happened wasPresident Obama brought this is

(41:56):
after the election, so PresidentTrump had won.
He had not, yet this wasbetween the election and the
inauguration, right.
And so he brought the cabinetand some other advisors in and
said listen, this intel thateverybody is looking at that
says that Russia had nothing todo with this doesn't jive.
I don't agree with it.
I don't believe it.
So you all, the intelligencecommunity, need to go back and

(42:17):
rewrite all of your assessmentsto make them say that there was
Russian interference in theelection, right.
And so there was an email sentout from the DNI the DNI's
executive assistant to all ofthe other heads within the
intelligence community that said, hey, listen, per the
president's directive and theODNI office of the DNI will take

(42:39):
the lead on this we will allcollectively rewrite our
intelligence assessments to saythat the Russians interfered
with the election in favor ofPresident Trump, and then,
within the next few days, thoseassessments were republished and
changed, and this was justprior to the election.
I think they actually came outon January 6th of 2017,

(43:03):
interestingly enough, but againbefore the inauguration of
President Trump, so they foundthis email.
Now, just today, there has beenmore evidence found Hoover
Building.
For those of you that don'tknow, the FBI is moving out of
the Hoover Building, as directedby Director Patel, and they are
finding things, including wholerooms, that most people did not

(43:24):
know or have access to, andjust today, they found a number
of burn bags, and if you'venever dealt with intelligence
before, burn bags are a realthing.
Okay, don't let anybody tellyou otherwise.
They are literal two foot tallbrown paper bags with markings
on them that you put classifiedmaterial in, you roll them up

(43:45):
and seal them, and then they aretaken to an incinerator and and
burned.
Okay, I have dealt with these amillion times.
They are a real.
Okay, they found burn bags inone of these unmarked, unnamed
rooms in the fbi headquartersthat were filled with the
intelligence annex that the dnireviewed and said, yeah, these

(44:07):
don't jive with what we wantthem to jive, and then they were
systematically put away to bedestroyed.
They were not, however,destroyed, and that's Kash Patel
.
Director Patel is currentlyhe's notified folks that these
exist.
He is going through with thedirector of the CIA, the DNI,
kelsey Gabbard, and some otherfolks to declassify these
documents and then they will beturned over to the investigative

(44:29):
committee from Congress that islooking into this entire thing.
So that's a development as oftoday.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Is this part of you think?
Dan Bongino has been in theheadlines a lot lately and he
made a pretty jarring statementabout, you know, the things that
he has seen have, you know,basically shaken him to his core
and just changed him forever.
Essentially, you think this ispart of it, Because I don't
think this was actuallynecessarily in connection to the

(44:57):
whole Epstein files.
This was more related to theactions and behaviors of the
government body, like theskeleton of it, essentially, and
he is shooketh, as they say,which is crazy, crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, I agree.
I think that that statementthat he made I think it was on X
was related to this.
And I think because, as adeputy director of the FBI, I
think he, because he talkedabout this is not how you run
the republic, etc.
And I think specifically whathe was referring to, even though
he was very kind of vague aboutwhat it was.

(45:33):
But I don't like the fact thathe said that that's one of those
.
I've got a secret.
I've got a secret.
I'm not going to tell you whatit is kind of thing.
And I, you know, I've neverbeen a fan of that and I
understand that what he's tryingto do is kind of quell the
upheaval that says you know, FBIis not doing anything, they're
not showing us anything, we'renot getting any of the documents
.
And he's trying to tell peoplerelax, this is a full

(45:55):
investigation, we're going to doit by the book.
But I think his add-on thatsays you know this is jarring,
Like I would never be the same,Like that's kind of one of those
teasers where it's like well,if it's that bad, just tell us.
And I wish he hadn't put thaton there.
I understand why he did, butthis is growing, because now

(46:16):
you've got the evidence too,that the Russians truthfully
said they didn't care whether itwas Trump or Hillary Clinton.
They said, you know likeHillary Clinton could be
manipulated because they had thedig on her with the medication
and the psychosis and you knowthe tranquilizers and everything
else.
They also said that Trump wouldbe more amicable to deal with,

(46:37):
Right, so they thought she couldbe manipulated, but they
thought he could be talked toand they really didn't give a
crap one way or the other.
So why would they interferewith the election, which is
really the kind of the nail inthe coffin on this whole thing.
So, yeah, it's definitelyinteresting and definitely
interesting and, for sure,something that we all need to
continue to pay attention to.
Don't let it get to the back ofyou know, the newspaper below

(46:59):
the hold, as they used to say.
Keep this at top of mind tofind out really what happened.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, and of course,the debates going back and forth
are I don't know if they'redebates, conversations of
whether or not Obama or theClintons will ever see jail time
for what they have, you know,now seemingly more and more
concretely, provably have done.
Will they, will they ever payfor those crimes, you know, or

(47:26):
will they find a way out of it,some loophole or some something
or other?
Because, the way I understandit, his presidential immunity
does not apply to this.
You know, I know people weretrying to float that one out
there.
I'm like, and as soon as Iheard it, I'm like, yeah, no,
that feels like a flat out.
No, this was no, nope, notgoing to fall under that.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
So yeah, you don't get to.
As a former commander who dealtwith assessments from
intelligence officials, you knowlike you don't get to look at
the intel guy and go, you know Idon't like your.
You can say I don't like yourassessment.
You can even say I don't agreewith your assessment.
What you can't do is say,rewrite your assessment to make
sure it agrees with what I think.
Like that's absolute no-no, youknow, it does a disservice to

(48:07):
the intelligence community, it'sdishonest.
And again, it does not like.
That doesn't qualify forpresidential immunity.
I'm sorry, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
No, definitely not, Definitely not.
Yeah, I mean, you know, likemany, like all, I would hope, if
there has been, which we allknow, I believe that there has
been.
But I will be fair and say ifthere has been wrongdoing,
criminal wrongdoing, treasonouswrongdoing, I hope they rot in
jail.
I'll say all day long, everyday rot in jail.

(48:38):
Don't care at all aboutanything else to do with them
whatsoever, just get them, getthem.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I hope they do.
And you know, what's awesome isthat, while all of this is
going on, president Trump isstill making deals.
Right, he just went over toScotland, you know, walked in,
sat down, you know, knocked outthis EU-US trade deal.
What is it?
So we've got 15% tariff on allEU goods, $600 billion in
American goods being purchased,including defense equipment,

(49:09):
$750 billion invested in USenergy of all kinds gas, natural
gas, all kinds of stuff and sofar I heard this today and I
just smiled we have made theUnited States has made in tariff
income $150 billion in threemonths, folks.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yep, that's a billion folks.
Billion, yes, billion dollars,right, yeah, so much winning.
And listen, you want to hate onTrump forever and ever.
Go ahead Like you know.
If that's what I don't know,that's what warms your heart, if
hate warms your heart, knockyourself out.
But you cannot, you can't denythis success.

(49:52):
You can't deny it.
You'll be mad about it.
If you hate America, you know,be mad all you want.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
The only EU official who's upset about this is Macron
and, truthfully, if we pissingthat guy off, then I think we're
doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, exactly yeah, nobody really cares.
He's embarrassing himself leftand right, that one.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
And then talk about embarrassing.
So we've got RepresentativeCrockett who thinks she can
control the meat.
I know she's one of yourfavorites.
You should start impersonatingher.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I really should.
I really should.
I don't know if I can do thoseeyelashes.
I think it would give me trauma.
It would feel like having twobutterflies sitting on my eyes.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I'm sure you can find a filter.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
There you go.
Yeah, I'll just use a filter,you're right.
Why wouldn't I just take theeasy way for that?
Yeah, she's right.
Oh, my goodness she is.
She's just silly Clay.
What is she?
It's like every day is herfirst day and she thinks she's.
You know she's the top of themountain, there that one.
Um, thinks she's, you knowshe's the top of the mountain,
there that one.
So she attempted to block anarticle by the Atlantic, which
is a joke in and of itself.
After learning, the reportercontacted fellow Democrats

(51:06):
without her permission.
The audacity to think that theyneeded her permission, like
this, is what I mean when I saylike, is this her first day?
No-transcript, I am shocked atthat.

(51:39):
Uh, combative and a liabilityto her own party.
And that is an absolute 100%,no duh, which is why we love her
.
You know, we love her over hereon the on the right.
You know, um, please keep it up, keep her, keep her, keep
entertaining us with.
You know, give me, give me someskit material, cause maybe that
could happen.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Her level, of her level of arrogance, like you
said, when she found out thatthey had not only spoken to
people without her permission,but also that the things that
were said about her were not allthat flattering, and she told
the Atlantic that they needed tocancel the profile that they
were doing on her and that shewas revoking all of the
privileges that she had giventhem.
And they basically turned andlooked at her and said that's
not how this works.
Like you already gave us theinformation, you signed all the

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releases or whatever, and youcan't take it back.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, no, take backs.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
She tried to cancel it.
She tried to have it canceled.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
She.
She tried to cancel it shetried to have it canceled.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
She tried to have it shut down and to the.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Atlantic's credit and I very rarely, if ever, give
them credit Words.
We rarely ever say yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
They proceeded forward and they have published,
or are publishing, this articlethat is not so friendly to
Representative Crockett, whichis good.
I think we need that.
I think we need you know, we'vesaid it a million times in the
press, especially from, you know, the ones that traditionally
are not all that honest in theAtlantic Right.
So it's a good sign from themthat they're doing this and from

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her that she's dumb enough tothink that she can stop it.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think you know one of my favorite the
talk to other Democratic leadersabout her, because she doesn't
want anybody talking about her.
She'll like that.
However, she is already beennotorious for name calling.
Let's not forget that shecalled MGT and I had to write it
down because I have to read itbecause saying it's like one of

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those tongue twisters referredto Marjorie Taylor Greene as a
as beach blonde, bad built butchbody.
Granted, that was very funnyjust by itself, but the fact
that you're calling anothermember of Congress that.
And then she also had a problemwith she complained about AOC

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and Bernie going on their littletour together because they were
distracting from the party,meaning she wasn't in on that,
she wasn't the center of thatattention.
So that was a problem.
So she trash talked her ownparty members but they can't
talk about her Like that's notokay.
Oh, can't stand her.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
She's a joke.
Listen, women on women.
Women criticizing right now isthe hot thing to do.
Young Miss Sidney Sweeney,which I didn't even know who she
was until we talked about theBJ's wedding and the whole thing
had no clue who this young ladywas.
But she is, you know, the younghot thing right now.

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She's, you know, 26.
She's blonde, she's beautiful,she's got a woman's body.
She's, you know, all of younghot thing right now.
She's, you know, 26.
She's blonde, she's beautiful,she's got a woman's body.
She's all of those things.
What she's not is she's not gay, bi, trans, she's not
overweight, she's not bodypositive, she's not any of those
things.
And she has been.
You know, she is the new faceand body of the American Eagle
Outfitters Company and theirjeans, their denim campaign,

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which is titled Sydney Sweeney,has Great Jeans spelled with a J
.
It's brilliant, it's brilliant.
And listen, folks, it'sadvertising, it's marketing.
Yeah, they know what sells.
And, whether you want to sayobjectifying or not, if she
agreed to it and she got paidfor it and she's cool with it,
yep, did some business in jeans,right?

(55:15):
I think her in a jean jacket, Ithink with nothing on
underneath, right, and and so ofcourse we have it guys.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yes, yes, yes, we have it.
I'll show you, I have noproblem with it.
What's down from?

Speaker 4 (55:26):
parents to offspring, often determining traits like
hair color, personality and eveneye color.
My jeans are blue.
My body's composition isdetermined by my jeans.
Hey, eyes up.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
It's cute, it's funny , she's got a fabulous body.
You know, the only mean girlthing I guess I could say about
her is is that really how shetalks?
Like she, she's got a very Idon't know, is that a very
California way of talking orsomething?
Yeah, uh, her, her manner ofspeaking is is interesting, Um,
but other than that, I don'teven well to say that I have a
problem with that.

(56:05):
I don't have a problem with it.
I just find it curious.
Um, she's a beautiful,well-proportioned young woman
doing what she was paid to do,which is advertise these jeans
because she's got the body forthem to make them look very
flattering and appealing.
Especially white liberal womenon the left find this to be the

(56:33):
most offensive, horrific,terrible thing that could ever
come across the country in thepast five minutes.
Yes, it's promoting eugenics,right, that's one of their
things.
It's a nod to Nazism.
Um, it is a.

(56:57):
It's a nod to nazism.
Um, it's, you know,misogynistic.
It's.
It's like all of the thingswrapped up in one and the rest
of us are sitting here going.
No, it's just a gorgeous girlin a pair of jeans, selling
jeans and being, you know, andthe brand being punny.
You know, that's funny, jeans,jeans.
But not if you're on the left.
It's's, you know, it's crimesagainst humanity now.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
And in the perfect twist you know there's.
There's a contrast to I thinkthere was a previous ad campaign
that sounded similar.
They had Beyonce involved, butthen people were also hearkening
back to Brooke Shields, back inthe old Calvin Klein days and
those sorts of things.
But the reality is is thatthere's no such thing as bad
press, and you know whathappened on the stock market
today American Eagle Outfitter'soutfit or stock went through

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the roof.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
So I don't even like jeans, but I would go buy those
now just just because, justbecause, yeah, so good on them,
brilliant, and yes, it is therule of you know, any press is
good press.
So they are sitting therelistening to all of this,
watching all of this andhigh-fiving each other.
So good job, liberal ladies.
You just you single-handedlynot Sydney, you single-handedly

(57:59):
drove up their stock.
So nice work, proud of you.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
The stock that is falling is the WNBA, yet again.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Oh man, they cannot get out of their own way.
Whoa, oh.
So this is.
You know this, right here.
This wig incident, of course,is the latest in just a free
fall of a comedy of errors.
Basically, you know, first theythey ran with the, the you know
, brainstorm this great idea to,you know, wear these shirts and

(58:27):
start this whole pay us whatyou owe us thing, and that kind
of nosedive really quick, whenyou really looked at the numbers
of what they're bringing in ornot bringing in, you know so,
exactly exactly, they're losingmoney.
So, fail number one.
I think I have more fails thanthat, but we're just starting
there.
Fail number one.
Fail number two is this wigincident.
Here we do have a video.
It's not really a great video,but you can kind of see'll play

(58:49):
it a lot.
But at the end I went throughthe room, oh no, picking up her
wig.
Oh no, running off the courtwith it.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
So yeah, so that's awkward and embarrassing so, um,
if you want to be, you knowthey want to be taken seriously
as a league.
They want to be taken seriouslyas athletes, they want to be
taken seriously as a sport andthe reality is, is that so?
You know, moving around thescreen, her hair got caught, her
wig got pulled off of her head.
She picked it up off the floor,right.

(59:16):
The rest blew the woods.
Yeah, because of foul.
She picked it up.
She ran off the court.
Every their stunt there was notechnical foul called for
leaving the court, as therewould be for anybody else.
Right, because she didn't justrun off the court folks, this
wasn't dennis rodman runningdown the tunnel because of
momentum.
And then coming back, she ranoff the court all the way back

(59:37):
to the locker room to fix gig,right.
And then after a few seconds,about 20 seconds her team called
timeout, right, a penaltyinvolved there.
Um and right, and theannouncers were caught.
They were calling it amalfunction.
They were.
They didn't say wig, they neversaid a word.

(59:58):
Right.
And then, to cap it all, off thebench she plays for this is
kalia copper, who plays for thephoenix mercury.
They were playing the las vegasaces.
For those people who don't knowwho any of these teams are,
like me.
So the Phoenix Mercury benchheard a fan behind them, because
there's only like 150 peoplewatching the game.

(01:00:19):
They could hear somebody behindthem make fun of her and her
wig.
They reported the fan to theofficials, who grabbed the head
of security who had that fanescorted out of the game for fun
.
I swear had a making fun of herand her wig right now you have
149 fans.
Way to go guys right, and sothey look petty, they look

(01:00:42):
scared, they look like notserious and the fan got paused
and and so there's so manythings wrong with this.
Nobody should take themseriously.
The league has shot itself inthe foot for the 50th time.
They don't protect CaitlinClark, who is the golden goose,
right, yes, and all of this isjust garbage.
It's crap.
They lose money on a dailybasis.

(01:01:03):
Nba needs to stop funding them.
Shut them down, like just shutthem down.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah, listen, you know it's either shut them down
or get somebody in there thatisn't afraid to run this like an
organization should be run withprofessionalism, integrity.
You know all of the things.
Take it serious, do it right,you know, because it is a shame.
You know you have some reallytruly talented athletes out
there and they deserve theopportunity to represent their

(01:01:28):
sport and play the damn game.
Stop with all the stupidgarbage.
Represent their sport and playthe damn game.
Stop with all this stupidgarbage.
Stop, you know, making womenbasically a joke.
You know which is what all ofthis reflects.
And listen, I don't care if shewants to wear a wig.
I mean, I don't think it's agood choice, but I wear a wig to
play basketball.
I mean, you know this is, butbe aware this can happen and if
it does happen, be professional.

(01:01:49):
Kick it over to the side andkeep playing the damn game, keep
going.
You know you have a wardrobemalfunction.
You keep going, you fix it andyou keep going.
Be professional.
That was not professional.
That was embarrassing inmultiple ways, embarrassing for
her, certainly.
I actually do feel sympatheticto that.
If I put myself in thatposition, I don't think I'd be
wearing my wig to playbasketball.

(01:02:11):
You know, I mean, these thingswill get yanked right out.
I'm aware of that possibility.
So, you know, act accordingly,but whatever.
But the whole thing is a joke,guys.
I want to know is anybodywatching?
Are you guys watching thisstuff?
They may.
Oh, by the way, that was Ialmost forgot.
There was one more embarrassingincident and I can't believe
and you're going to be shockedthat I am showing this, but I

(01:02:34):
have to.
I mean, this is the final, youknow, the final nail in the
coffin here.
This is how seriously thisleague is being taken.
Like these are the things thatare that are happening.
Like it's just oneembarrassment after another.
Like the game actually had tobe stopped in order to remove

(01:02:57):
the object from the court.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Like Did somebody throw it onto the court.
Is that what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Somebody threw that onto the court, like that's how
much respect this league hasgarnered.
Uh, you know, it's like so.
Oh, it's all very cringe and itshould not be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Let me another business.
Find me any business, anybusiness at all that has been in
business for 30 years and haslost money every single year.
Find one for me and then we candiscuss this.
But in the meantime, wnba hasgot to go.
It's got to go.
I'm sorry, I hate it forCaitlin Clark.
I hate it for, you know, all ofthe ladies who you know tried
to build this league, the SueBirds you know Reggie Miller's

(01:03:35):
sister.
You know all of them thatstarted this.
I feel bad for all of thembecause of what this has become
and the fact that it's neverbeen successful, but it's time
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think so At this point.
You know it's, it's got to gothe way of Stephen Colbert Right
, send it, send him on his way.
You're losing money for, inthis case, your league.
He was losing money for thenetwork, so you got to go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Interesting, they lose the same amount of money
per year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Ironic, ironic, yeah, like yeah.
And again, sorry for the, sorryfor the young women who take
the sport seriously and play itwell and are doing everything
that they can to do the rightthings here.
It's such a disservice to themthe way this is going.
But you know, the fact is thefact, you're losing money, you
have zero respect and that's adamn shame.

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So I want to know in thecomments anybody watch, does
anybody watch?
You guys watch it?
Because I have not.
I never, have, never will.
All I catch is the low lightsof you know crazy things happen,
so, but uh well, oh, mygoodness.
So we did it, we.
We went a little bit over andthat's okay.
There was nine topics.
I think we threw in a littlebonus thing here and there, um,
but you know all really relevantstuff to what's happening in

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the world.
We try and give you thehighlights and the low lights of
it all and end up with a littlebit of a chuckle at the end
there.
So we hope you guys enjoyed theshow.
As always, we will join you inthe comments section.
Clay, you want to close themout?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Hi folks, thanks for joining us and again I apologize
for last week, but I think wemade more than made up for today
with the nine topics and alittle bit of an extended show,
and we appreciate you.
And, as always, keep moving,keep shooting.

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