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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, hey there.
How are you after a very longday for you, sir?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, so today is Wednesday.
We're a little bit deviatedfrom our norm it is 7 pm on the
East Coast because I had to domy civic duty and I got called
in for jury duty today, whichlasted all day, only to get not
selected to be on the jury.
All day, only to get notselected to be on the jury.
It is what it is, but you know,if you've ever done that, that

(00:47):
can be a very, very long day ofsitting around doing nothing,
and that's exactly what I hadtoday.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yes, I am masterfully derelict.
I am very bad about that wholeprocess.
I think I have been summonedprobably at least half a dozen
times.
I have shown up exactly onetime.
One time I showed up and I did.

(01:13):
You guys are going to be so madat me.
I did everything in my power toget out of it, even going so
far as to take the advice ofpeople that told me just tell
them that you're a cop's wifeand they'll get rid of you right
away.
No, they did not get rid of meright away and in fact they were
very annoyed with me forbecause they know that that was
a tactic, it's the truth.

(01:34):
But they know that I was sayingit to get the heck out of there
.
They did release me, but theymade me suffer a little bit and
I felt like the judge was verystern with me.
But I am biased, I am, I justam.
So whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, I didn't even get interviewed.
You know they took many of usit was 50 of us into a room, to
narrow it down to 12 plus twoalternates, and by the time they
got to 14, I hadn't even beeninterviewed yet, but it was
still like the end of the day ofreally getting gosh A whole day
of really getting nothing,except for the fact that I did
my civic duty.
I showed up my appointed place,time and duty and all that

(02:11):
stuff and got it done.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
So but Well, you're the good one, Clay.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's that all that army training do what you're
told when you're told to do itAnyway.
So now we're wasting even moretime.
We're behind the power curve,folks, but we do have a great
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Four, which a lot of them kindof weave together, which will be
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Speaker 2 (03:31):
I did not bring this up to you before we hit the
record button here, uh, but thiscracked me up, clay, so much so
I'll share guys, what I'mtalking about.
Clay Clay's probably nervousover there, like what is she
going to?
Do now I have a feeling.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I know what this is.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, you know, so I get it.
I get a text message last nightand it reads it reads this and
you can guess probably who thattext was from.
It was from Clay, who you know,so I I I actually laughed out
loud because y'all have come toknow Clay.

(04:06):
Do you think Clay sits aroundtalking about women's lipstick
at any point of any day in hislife?
We all know the answer is no.
So this cracked me up beyondwords that I could just picture
your face sending that text,like I cannot even believe I
have to send this text.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's actually your fault.
It's somebody who follows bothof us on social media and she
said that she asked you and younever responded.
So she was like I'm going toask you and see if you can ask
her, and I was like oh I feeldoubly bad.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
now I feel terrible.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Keeping your lipstick is what she said.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
So uh, yeah, I was like so listen for anyone else,
so that nobody has to ask poorclay this mortifying question
ever again.
I don't even know how this willshow up in there.
It probably will not.
Um, but guys, it's just, it's.
It's tart, t A R T, er-t-e andMaracuja I don't even know if I

(05:06):
pronounced that right.
It's the color primrose.
My lip liner is this cheapstuff from.
I don't even know what this is,but this is what it looks like,
guys.
Poor clay, right now, I, I,this is what I use, guys.
So if anybody else wants toknow, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
And now, I get here.
How did I get here?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
it's amazing, isn't it?
Oh yes, all right, so we aregoing to spare clay and, uh, all
of the rest of the men thatcame in here for some you know
intellectual discourse and gotlipstick instead.
But we're moving on, we'regoing on to the potential, okay,

(05:48):
so here we go.
So we're kicking off with thelatest on the Israel-Iran-US
tension, because things justwent from thermometer high to
ice cold faster than the mediacan spin it right.
Wow, this was fast.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, and we'll talk about the media reaction and all
that stuff in a few.
But you know the hard partabout an operation like this and
we talked about the operationlast week, right, and the hard
part of this is the BDA whichyou know.
For those of us in the business, that's battle damage
assessment or bomb damageassessment, and so that is

(06:25):
assessing the damage after theoperation is over with.
Now the best way to do this isboots on the ground, the best
way to have somebody walk overthere, get within eyesight and
take some pictures or reallywalk it and get a good feel for
it.
Obviously, that is a very, veryhigh risk operation to do that,
and for a lot of reasons, notjust because putting boots on

(06:47):
the ground in Iran is risky, asall get out, but you're also
talking about a nuclear facilitywhere there's potential exposed
radioactive material and allkinds of stuff.
So you really don't want to putpeople on the ground if you can
help it.
So we have to rely on, you know, satellites, satellite photos,
reconnaissance aircraft, thosekinds of things to take pictures
.
And then you've gotprofessionals who do the

(07:07):
analysis of the photographs, ofthe satellite imagery, to tell
you what happened and whatdidn't happen, and so you know
all assessments by the folksinvolved, including the Israelis
, who else, our CIA and a numberof other folks are saying that
the damage has set back theIranian nuclear program years

(07:33):
potentially.
And again we'll talk about themedia, you know, going forward
in a little bit in the nextsegment.
But there's some contrarianviews, obviously, of what you
know happened and didn't happen.
So, but I think the tellingresponse to this is the NATO
secretary general, and you knowI was telling Elsa, we were

(07:56):
talking right before we started.
I read a whole thing todayabout, you know, because
President Trump is at the NATOsummit, or actually just left
today, but he's at the NATOsummit, or actually just left
today, but he's at the NATOsummit.
And while he was there and evenon his way there, he had some
great interaction with the NATOsecretary general.
I think you got a film clip,don't you?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I do, I do, I love this.
So many people love this also.
Here it is.
Maybe we're going to do papers.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I don't even know if you need them.
They're not going to befighting each other.
They've had it.
They've had it.
They've had a big fight liketwo kids in a schoolyard.
You know they fight like hell.
You can't stop them.
Let them fight for about two,three minutes.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Then it's easy to stop them.
And then daddy has to sometimesuse strong language.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You have to use strong language.
Everyone's going.
You have to use a certain word.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I love it.
I love it.
Daddy sometimes has to usestrong language.
You know, and it's always sofunny to me, like you know,
right away, everybody, of courseit's a great quote.
It's a cute, funny light momentin all of this.
You know drama and heavinessand everything, and you know, of
course I'd be like, I think, ajournalist, you know, asked a

(08:58):
question of the guy.
So you know, so what do you?
Why did you call him daddy?
Or you called him daddy?
Well, you know it's asking likea dumb question.
We call him daddy becausePresident Trump was reversing,
you know, calling them childrenand sometimes you got to, you
know, break the kids up and allthat stuff, and so there's a
very direct tie into why yousaid it.
It was a funny light moment.

(09:19):
Everybody chill out.
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Chill out.
I loved it.
So you know, operationally,what he's talking about is in
the.
You know, in the immediacyafter the operation, iran
obviously launched, you know,counterattacks into Israel, very
short lived, very, very, verylimited.
And then all of a sudden therewas this ceasefire and both

(09:42):
sides agreed to it and abide byit, and then all of a sudden
they both violated it and youknow, even President Trump said
it himself.
But these are the same things wetalked about with the initial
ceasefire between Russia andUkraine is that sometimes it
takes a while for information toget down to the people who need
.
You know who are the executorsand you know things are already
in motion, and so I think therewere a few rockets launched out

(10:04):
of Iran.
You know there was a responseby Israel, and then there was
another templated or plannedresponse by Israel and President
Trump jumped in the middle andsaid you know, knock it off.
And he said it right before hegot on a helicopter and he used
some really language on livetelevision.
I think we have a clip of thattoo.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
We sure do, and I love this even more than the
other one.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
you don't go out in the firsthour and just drop everything
you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them.
I'm not happy with Iran either,but I'm really unhappy if
Israel is going out this morningbecause of one rocket that
didn't land, that was shotperhaps by mistake, that didn't
land.
I'm not happy about that.

(10:47):
You know what?
We basically have two countriesthat have been fighting so long
and so hard that they don'tknow what the fuck they're doing
.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Do you understand that.
Oh, yes, yes.
So Clay chuckles at me oftenbecause off air I may
occasionally throw out a wordhere and there, but as the rest
of you know, I do not swear inmy videos and in anything

(11:21):
publicly anymore and I try very,very hard not to in my personal
life.
I am a little more lax thereand I forget myself at times.
I'm growing, I'm learningpeople, I'm getting better.
Cut me some slack.
So you know there was a lot ofpearl clutching, a lot of pearl
clutching going on over theF-bomb and I think Clay and I

(11:42):
both agree that as a generalrule we kind of poo-poo that you
know, in that setting we're not, you know, we're not prudes.
We all swear, you know,generally, and are big boys and
big girls and we can certainlyhandle it.
But you know, everybody doesexpect a certain level of
decorum, finesse from ourleaders and everything this.

(12:05):
As Clay said, before we got inthere, this was different.
This was, this was actuallykind of called for and it was.
I appreciated it so much becauseto me it showed a man who cares
, who deeply cares.
That was an F-drom dropped outof sheer frustration.
You know the daddy mode tryingto get the kids to behave.

(12:30):
And the kids are just actingwild, they're behaving like
feral animals and you know, andhe's trying to get everybody to
get along and behave.
And you know, and I you canjust kind of you just feel the
emotion in emotion in that that,like, for the love of
everything good, I am trying tomake peace, I'm trying to make
everything better for everyone.

(12:51):
Stop freaking, fighting me onthis all the damn time, and do
what's right.
And that was the energy behindit, Right, Like that was dad
saying enough, and I loved it.
How about you, Clay?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, again, I, I I've said this publicly a number
of times I do think thatpresident Trump, you know,
speaks below his office moreoften than than I would prefer,
but he is transparent in who heis.
He generally, you know, hedoesn't hide that stuff and but
this one, I think, was veryfocused.
Like you said, I think hedropped that F-bomb very
purposefully and it was,honestly, I think it was as much

(13:25):
, probably more so, a message toBebe Netanyahu than it was
anybody else.
So you know, yes, there was alot of pearl clutching.
I would offer that, you know,the people who were doing most
of the pearl clutching would sitthere and watch a movie with
their children with that exactword in it and not even flinch.
So I think a lot of it is, youknow, as much as we would like

(13:52):
him to speak more appropriately.
I think it's a lot of, you know, fake outrage mostly because
it's him.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
So yeah, absolutely, because there's crickets,
crickets over Jasmine Crockettdropping F-bombs left and right.
You know, every two secondsshe's dropping an F-bomb.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
So give me a break, In violation of the rules of
decorum in Congress, by the waywhere she can be fined money,
you know, and other things.
there's punishment involved.
But you know, president Trump,part of this too is, you know,
our forces were attacked in themidst of all this.
Iran responded.
Now, nobody got hurt,everything was intercepted.
You know, the Qataris andeverybody, you know, did their

(14:25):
part in our internal defenses,defeated everything that was
targeted towards US bases.
But you know he's got that onhis mind too.
That that is, you know, allpart of this.
You know, jigsaw puzzle that'sgoing on in the Middle East.
So so he carried, you know hecarried all of that forward.
You know he kind of launchedinto that little bit of
profanity and then, uh, you know, and then he went to the NATO

(14:48):
summit and you know we talkedabout the secretary general, but
the, you know, as he walked in,um, you know he, president
Trump, said hey, listen, youknow this is ceasefire.
You know he's not proclaimingpeace in the middle East, but

(15:08):
we're a lot closer than we wereeven a few months ago, and the
Secretary General of NATO, aswell as other nation state
members, are very, very happythat we, the United States, and
he specifically launched thisoperation to take that
capability away from IranBecause, as we said last week.
This was bad for the globe,right, not just the United
States, not just Israel oranybody else in the region.
It's bad for the globe.
So, with that, what he got outof NATO was a massive, massive

(15:33):
shift in focus in defensespending, collective defense
spending across the NATO nations, where they upped from 2% of
the GDP to a combined 5% oftheir GDP towards defense, with
the one exception being Spain,which has got some economic
issues that they can't get outfrom behind, and they were given
a little bit of a pass, or atleast a longer lead time to get

(15:55):
there.
But you saw some immediate moves.
The UK put in an order for F-35nuclear capable aircraft today.
So you know this is animmediate move, very responsive
by all of NATO to get back onboard with defending NATO as a
whole under the terms of Article5, which you know is the if you

(16:19):
attack one of us, you attackall of us.
You know kind of claws in allthe NATO stuff.
So you know President Trump,who's been really, really rough
on NATO for a very, very longtime, you know he walked into
the conference and he was theman and he was everybody's
favorite.
Go figure, he made a move andit turned out to be the perfect
move at the perfect time and itworked out in the US's favor, so

(16:42):
good on him, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Typical Trump?
Yeah, absolutely, um, I talkabout a huge, huge, massive win.
Um, at a time, at a verydisappointing time, when many,
several of his normallystaunchest supported supposed
supporters, uh, vocal supporters, basically turn their back on

(17:06):
him.
And we're talking about, youknow, notable figures.
Steve Bannon, one of them had alot to say.
That was not cool.
Tucker Carlson, candace Owen,doesn't really count, she's, you
know, she's already been offthe Trump train for a while now.
Has Tucker also?
I think Tucker might, mighthave been also.
No, I think just with this didthat really kind of blatantly

(17:28):
come out.
The Hodge twins do you followthe Hodge twins?
I do not anymore.
They got insanely obnoxious andthen especially more so as of
late turns out, I think AI isdoing most of their posting for
them.
But that's another thing as awhole, other thing, um, so, yeah
, so, you know, in the face ofall I did, uh, marjorie Taylor

(17:49):
green also, I could swear sheposted something that caught me
off guard you know go

Speaker 3 (17:56):
ahead.
Well, you know, tucker, I don'tknow if you saw the uh um, ted
Cruz interview, which was very,very shallow, in my opinion, out
of Tucker, he played a biggotcha game.
Now I think you know and we'rekind of transitioning to the
next topic, folks, which is the,you know, the media response to

(18:19):
, you know, the US attack intoIran and our politicians and
really the response at home andhow everybody's reacting.
But, like Tucker, carlson is agreat example.
He, you know Ted Cruz, came inthere and Tucker played a game
of I got you with him about.
You know, do you know thepopulation of Iran?
Do you know the demographics ofIran?
Do you know this about Iran?
Do you know that about Iran?

(18:39):
And it's like you know, I think, one bad on Ted Cruz for not
being prepared.
Yeah, absolutely.
He walked in there believing itwas going to be a cakewalk and a
very friendly interview, and itwas certainly not.
Not even close.
Tucker was a little childish inthe whole thing in his very

(19:00):
uncomfortable giggly laughy kindof way that he is uncomfortable
giggly laughy kind of way thathe is, and it was very.
That interview was a greatindicator of how weirdly
received this entire operationhas been across the spectrum of
politics and media.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
You just said the exact word that I've been
thinking weird.
It is so weird to me.
I honestly, I genuinely do notunderstand this reaction.
We're talking about a countrywho produces some of the worst
terror cells known to the entireglobe, who chant death to

(19:37):
America on a regular basis andwho are actively trying to get
nuclear capabilities.
Who are actively trying to getnuclear capabilities Like this
is a no brainer, you know.
And let's state the obvious, ofcourse, nobody wants war.
Nobody in their right mindwants to get into a war, wants
us to be directly involved in awar.
But this does directly involveus.

(19:59):
This directly affects us whenwe're when they're chanting
death to America.
Affects us when we're whenthey're chanting death to
America.
That affects us when they havesent over God knows how many um
illegal aliens you know thathave slipped through the system
that are here right now.
This directly affects us.
You know, this isn't a time, umfor for wishy washy, wimpy

(20:22):
actions.
This was a time for decisive,strong action and I personally
call me crazy, if you want, Idon't really care.
I personally trusted and trustTrump on this.
I don't know if I afford all ofthat trust to everyone that's
involved, but I definitelyafford that to him and, sorry

(20:43):
guys, rightly so.
That timeline let's look at thetimeline here.
So June 13th, israel launchesthe first wave.
By the way, let me stop thatfor one second and just remind
everyone that what all of thesepeople were saying is, like
Trump is dragging us into thislong, long Cold War.
It's going to be World WarThree.
This is going to go on foryears.

(21:04):
It's going to be projecting,projecting, projecting, and I
actually have a clip of all ofthat.
Actually, you know what I'mgoing to stop reading.
I want to play that for you.
So let's take a look at that,including Tucker.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
A war with Iran means a war in effect or by proxy,
but still a war with Russia,China, Turkey and a lot of the
rest of the world.
So that's a world war.
It's not just as simple aswe're going to take out their
nuclear facilities.
Okay, the next 200 days aresome of the most perilous times
for the American Republic in itshistory, because if we don't

(21:34):
get this sorted, we're going tobe drawn in totally into a
conflict.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
We could be yanked into war for absolutely no
consequential reasons, or whichwe do not need to fight, which
is not in our interest, has thepotential to be devastating to
our country, let alone theregion.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
I think that we are moving toward war with Iran.
Yes, I do, and it looks likethe chosen destination is indeed
Armageddon.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
If this thing keeps escalating, the risk of this
going to a real ground war,another war in the war on
terrorism I'm I'm let me be veryclear when I say this I don't
know that America will survivethis.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I mean perilous danger, forever war.
We won't survive this.
You're calling yourselvesexperts?
I sure as heck hope not,because let's go back to that
timeline.
June 13th, israel launches thefirst wave, operation Rising
Lion.
June 22nd, the US steps in withOperation Midnight Hammer,
drops 14 bunker busters.

(22:35):
Let's see.
June 23rd, iran responds withmissiles.
June 24th, a fragile ceasefiretakes hold, brokered by
President Trump, who urged bothsides to stand down.
How many days is that?
What is that like?
14 days, 12 days, whatever itis?
Now, yeah, let's state theobvious.
I mean the perfect term.

(22:56):
There was a fragile ceasefire.
We know these are countriesthat you know who knows what's
going to happen, how long thiswill last?
I think, like the, a lot of theconsensus was from people that
I kind of pulled on social mediawas that they expected that
this will last for as long aspresident Trump is in office.
And you know I I'm not makingany predictions because I have

(23:19):
no idea, but you know it's justvery, very interesting to me.
The people that are normally100 percent aggressively,
assertively in his corner, likeMAGA to the core, came out like
this what do you think of all ofthis?
Like, where is that coming from?
Why?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
no-transcript, where they had moved the nuclear
material out of Iran with thehelp of China, et cetera, et
cetera.
So that that colored a lot ofthat commentary, right, I
believe, and and I you know,I've said this and you've,

(24:23):
you've learned from me You'veechoed the first reports always
wrong, right?
So the problem was that theactual first reports from the
military folks were right.
As it turns out, you know,maybe they weren't a hundred
percent right, maybe they're avery tentative or a soft
assessment that said, hey, thiswas a successful operation.
We got to wait till the suncomes up and we get some better
eyes on this and we'll knowbetter in the meantime.

(24:46):
That left the door open for youknow these leaks and all of
these people who really have noclue.
Um, you know what they'retalking about.
My favorite is always the leak,the anonymous leak.
Well, I can't say anything, um,and I don't know why we
continue to listen to thosepeople because more often than
not they're wrong.
If you're a real whistleblowerand you go through a

(25:07):
whistleblower protection program, okay, fine, I get that.
That's a protected source.
If you're a person in thePentagon leaking information, I
don't trust you at all.
But the media does that becauseit gets them soundbites and it
gets them clicks and it getsthem viewership, which is
exactly what all of those clipsare about To be controversial in
.
All this is about getting views, and that's the currency

(25:30):
nowadays is that clicks andviews are what everybody's at
and no one can know truthfullyall of those predictions of you
know this is going to turn intoan infinite war.
This is going to be potentiallythe end of America.
This is going to be based onnothing, based on a leak report,
probably, or they just want tobe the most controversial person

(25:53):
on television to get the mostviewership and the most clicks
and likes.
So you know, I think a lot ofit.
Like you said, the lack ofloyalty is surprising from some
of those characters, but I think, at the end of the day, they're
all media personalities andthat's all they care about is
likes.
They can be as controversial asthey want.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, yeah, I for one , I said this before we started
and man, oh man, I'm so sick andtired of it.
I'm so sick of all of thesepeople on all of the sides I
don't care what side it is I amso sick and tired of that exact
behavior.
The you know the rage baiting.
The you know the jumping beforeyou know anything, the refusal

(26:34):
to do any kind of researchwhatsoever.
The you know the fakes, thefrauds.
I'm tired of all of them.
Like good grief, you know, getsome integrity, will you?
Jeez.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, and then you go to our congressional leadership
.
You know I mean there werepeople saying, oh, he's starting
a war without checking withCongress, having again, like you
said, doing no research intothe past.
I don't know four presidents.
You know people don't realizethat we, you know, a war that I
fought in for a long time wasnot a war, not an official war.

(27:11):
You know we haven't been in anofficial war in a very, very
long time.
So Congress making demands, youknow, out of the president, you
know, for this one action isridiculous, truthfully, and you
know to throw articles ofimpeachment out there and to say
, you know, to demand yourfriend Crockett demanding.
You know that the presidentshould have briefed them

(27:32):
beforehand.
He's under no obligation,especially to somebody like her
who's not on either, you know,either of the armed services
committees.
She's not on any of theintelligence committees.
She needs a civic owner andshut up, because get on a
committee and then maybe you getsome of the information.
But the president is under noobligation to notify Congress
for things like this One,because not everybody's cleared.

(27:53):
I hate to break this to folksbut you know, just because
you're a Congress person doesn'tmean that you have the
clearance to know absolutelyeverything that's going on in
the country and in the military,until you're on a need to know.
You don't know everything andthey didn't need to know this,
so that's why he wasn't.
They weren't told and theydon't understand that.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, who was it?
Clay?
Somebody got called out forclaiming that they weren't noted
.
There was somebody you knowclaim they're supposed to be
notified and they didn't getnotified.
I want to say Hakeem Jeffries,but I doubt it was him, you know
, made it, made a big fuss andthen President Trump or maybe it
was Caroline Leavitt who whobasically showed the receipts
and was like yeah, no, here'sthe timestamp of when the call

(28:31):
or the message was sent out andthere was no response.
We made the attempt here's theproof, and you know so suck on
it I.
We made the attempt, here's theproof, and you know, so suck on
it.
I remember who it was.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, I'm sure that was true.
I'm sure that he you know thethe appropriate leadership was
notified, or at least attemptedto be notified.
You know, and I'll make anoffhanded joke, it doesn't seem
like signal was used for any ofthis operation.
So therefore that didn't leakout Right.
But but you know, again, it'sour congressional leaders who

(29:01):
don't even know their role andresponsibility in situations
like this and making demands ofthe president when in fact they
have no authority to do so.
So there's a lot of issues withthis.
You know AOC was another one,you know that demanded.
You know she should have beentold.
They all should have beennotified.
No, that's not how it works.
Did he declare war?
No, he did not.
He did a military operationwhich he's in full authority to

(29:23):
do.
You know Congress would take,for, first of all, we're not
declaring war in Iran.
That was never the purpose ofthis.
Know not the goal and thereforeCongress had no role.
So you know, and and then theyget the support of the media
which you know takes this entire.

(29:43):
You know messaging from theoffices on the, you know on the
side and and some, truthfully,some conservatives, and they
take this messaging and theyspin it and they, you know the
headlines turn into.
You know president Trumpviolates president Trump,
refuses to president Trump this,and it turns into this this you
know President Trump violatesPresident Trump, refuses to
President Trump this and itturns into this you know crazy
messaging across the board thatyou know blames President Trump

(30:05):
for something that isn't to beblamed for.
So, but again it goes back toclicks and likes and attention,
and that's what our media andour congressional leaders are in
for right now.
That's what they're workingtowards.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, and you know and I wish I knew the answer
here as far as because this isthis has gone so wild now that,
you know, every ounce of ofintegrity in journalism and
reporting is out the window.
The trust and belief of thepeople, the American people, in

(30:41):
anything that they read, see orhear is completely gone.
Nobody believes anything that'sbeing said by anyone, but
they're also all falling for itas well.
You know it's.
It's the echo chamber, it's the.
You know confirmation bias,it's.
You know it's all of thesethings happening that.
You know it's the echo chamber,it's the.
You know confirmation bias,it's.
You know it's all of thesethings happening that you know

(31:03):
people are.
If it fits what they want tobelieve, then that's the.
That is the thing that theywill listen to and believe.
Doesn't matter if it's true ornot.
If it aligns with what theywant to believe, then that's
what they listen to.
And I mean this is a hugeproblem, you know, and you add
AI and all of these things andthat the better AI gets at

(31:23):
creating false things and youknow that's all you ever see in
the comments.
It doesn't matter what it is.
Oh, this is AI, that's AI,everything is AI, like well, I
mean, it might be, you know,this might be, that might be,
whatever might be, but how dohow does anyone find the truth
anymore?
And that's actually.
It's actually a really scaryquestion, because what's the
answer?

(31:47):
You know what's the answer tohow do you find the truth?
Because you're supposed to beable to rely on your media, your
, your newscasters, which Idon't even think that exists
anymore.
There's I don't even thinkthere's such thing as a
newscaster anymore.
Journalists there's, you know,even independent journalists.
These are.
Everybody is trying to be theone to get the clicks, to get
the.
You know, be first all of thosethings.

(32:08):
And it's, it's frightening, youknow it really is, because I
don't know where that we're at,what that path, you know where
it's going to bring us, whereit's going to lead to.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
So yeah, even even in the aftermath I ran was using
ai.
I don't know if you saw this,but they had, like ai, images of
b2 bombers on the groundsmoking.
You know they had a b1 bomberwhich wasn't even on the
operation, you know, like on theground, but it was like it was
so funny because you could tellobviously it wasn't great ai,
like the aircraft was sittingthere, it was on its landing

(32:39):
gear, it was parked, but at thesame time you hit on something
which is they keep falling forthis right.
Some of the news agencies wereactually quoting Iran as a
verified source in the aftermathof the operation.
I mean this was literally.
Do you remember Baghdad Bob?
Right in the aftermath of theoperation.

(33:00):
I mean this was literally.
Do you remember Baghdad Bob?
Right From the invasion of Iraq?
Like the?
You know the?
You know the informationminister for the Iraqi army is,
you know everything's fine.
You know his tanks are rollingby him.
You know that kind of thing.
That's what this was like.
Our news media in many cases waslike well, iran said it's
perfectly fine.
Iran said that there, you know,there's no damage done.
Iran said it's perfectly fine.
Iran said that there, you know,there's no damage done.

(33:21):
Iran said this.
Well, of course they're goingto say that, right, but they buy
into it and they repeat it,they regurgitate it as if it's
fact, with zero investigationand solely and not even saying
hey look, this is Iran.
Take it with a grain of salt.
It's an unverified source, butit's kind of they're saying it
definitively as if it's thetruth, so they're contributing
to the problem as much asanything else.
I do know that you know our lawenforcement here at home has

(33:42):
been very, very busy in theaftermath of this, because we
all knew and you know theassessments were made that you
know that there was potentialfor domestic terror.
There's some, you know sleepercells, whatever you want to call
them you know, sitting here inthe United States that have
potentially been activated.
I know I personally have beenconcerned about that and they
have been running around andthey've been arresting some
folks Tom Holman and all hisfolks.

(34:05):
They have been busy, you know Ilove me some, tom Holman.
Yeah, they've been.
I saw him on TV today.
He hadn't shaved, which I'dnever seen that before, but that
tells you how busy the man is.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Man is tired and busy , but he's not backing down.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I love it Right.
So you know we're taking, youknow the appropriate folks are
taking the intelligence and theinformation seriously and
they're acting upon it, asopposed to regurgitating garbage
solely to satisfy, you know,viewership requirements.
So folks take everything.
You see.
You know, as we always say,even everything you hear from me
and Elsa, take it all with agrain of salt.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Do your own investigation.
Go, look around.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, there is.
There is no harm, no foul inquestioning everything.
You should be at this point,especially more than ever.
Question everything, usediscernment, ask questions, ask
the key questions of yourself,like you know.
Does this, does this make sense?
Does this seem plausible?
Where is my?
Who is telling me thisinformation?
Should I be checking?

(35:04):
Cross-checking that, you know,and then cross checking that?
And yeah, it's exhausting andyeah, it's a pain in the neck to
have to do.
But, you know, do you wanttruth or do you want propaganda?
So you know, it's what you haveto do in this day and age and
absolutely, you know, I couldguarantee to you that I have
either misquoted something or,you know, not gotten something

(35:25):
completely.
I could go check it.
It's like everything can bechecked these days.
You do have to take the time todo it because it is that
important.
You don't want to be that guyspreading false information.
You know, or maybe I don't know.
I mean, clearly there areplenty of people that simply do
not care and just do it anyhow,um, but yeah, I care.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
The sad part is is that the things that should be
covered, that should be on thenews, are not getting covered.
You know, and specifically youknow, here's a great example is
what is it?
Operation Dragon Eye, right?
Um out of out of Florida, um,florida For those that have been
paying attention for the last.
This has been going on forabout three or four, maybe
longer years, where the USMarshals lead these operations
and they leapfrog.

(36:09):
All I love it, it is one of myfavorite things.
They literally I think theyprobably got two or three
operations going at the sametime and it's led by the
marshals but there's about 20different agencies involved the
FBI.
A lot of times there's drugsinvolved, so DEA plays into, and
then you've got local and statelaw enforcement, et cetera.

(36:29):
So Operation Dragon Eye was aFlorida rescue and a breakup of
a child trafficking ring.
That rescued I think the numberis 60 kids between the age of
17 and nine, nine years old.
Okay, eight people arrestedwhich were mostly, as far as I

(36:49):
understand it, almost all thechild traffickers you know
specifically.
These weren't a lot of timeswhen they run these operations,
as they've done over the pastfew years.
You know, if it's a childpornography ring which they've
done quite a few times, you geta bunch of people Right Because
it's mostly with the Internetand those sorts of things.
So they get a bunch of arrestsout of those.

(37:10):
If it's a large you know heavychild prostitution ring, a lot
of times they get a lot of theclientele you know, along with
those that are being, you know,that are doing the trafficking,
et cetera.
This one seems like it was very,very targeted and they got
eight arrests and it was almostexclusively the traffickers who
are also dealing in drugs andusing these kids to move drugs

(37:31):
and sell drugs, not just sextrafficking and other things.
But these are the things thatshould be in the news, but our
media is so busy doing othercrap, unverified crap, just to
get clicks and likes.
This is the stuff that shouldbe out there, right?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
They're so Trump obsessed thatis.
You know, trump is their mealticket in every possible way.
If it's not related to Trump,you know, they clearly don't
care.
This is a huge story.
This is a, you know, this is apowerful, amazing story.
What was that?
What'd you say?
60 kids, youths, 60, their kids, nine to 17, their kids.

(38:07):
You know, and this is just thetip of the iceberg, this is just
what we know of that's going on.
Like you said, these operationshave been going on for some
time and you know, obviously,obviously, there's there's no
fanfare and no discussing it, asit's going on and you know,
then, this is the result of itAre these?
Do you happen to know?
I was looking at this and Ithink was this a majority of

(38:32):
migrant kids or is this just ageneralization?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, so it was Miami-Dade County, which
includes Miami, the city ofMiami.
So you have a heavy Cubanpopulation, as you well know.
But, yes, migrant kids, but notexclusively.
So this I don't think was aresult of border issue, border
policy, although it could havebeen.
I think a lot of these were runof the mill sounds so horrible,

(39:01):
but I think it was.
You know this is a notassociated necessarily with with
illegal immigrants or, or, youknow, folks coming out of Cuba.
So I think you know that's.
This was just a bunch ofrunaway kids or kidnapped kids
or whatever that thankfully gotrescued out of this.

(39:22):
But, like I said, they run thesethings in different stages,
probably two or three at a time,and after watching again, I
love this, so I pay attention tothese, and so my assessment
over watching these for a fewyears is they have, you know,
three of these probably going atone time in three separate
cities, and what you've got isinitial like hey, is there

(39:43):
enough here in?
Pick your city Right, let'sjust say Omaha, right, you know,
is there enough here in Omaha?
Do we have enough intelligence,enough information to to put
together, you know, is there?
Is there a ring here?
Is there a trafficking ring?
Is there a kidnapping ring?
Is there a whatever?
Is there something here tobreak up?
Yes, there is Okay.
And then they kind of move on toa second stage, which is

(40:04):
they're really kind of pullingall the information because
they've got to make a case.
I mean, it's great to make afew kids, but they want to put
people in jail, so they've gotto have all of that and they get
all the you know, all theagencies in to help and they do
it very quietly.
And then the last phase is theexecution of.
Let's go in there, let's breakthis up.
It's the shortest phase butit's the biggest payoff, right,

(40:25):
and they, they rescue these kidsand they arrest the people that
need to be arrested.
Well, while that's going on inOmaha in separate stages, you
know you've got another onethat's being built in Dallas, or
and, and, and.
Then you know maybe they're inphase two and then in phase one
is in Charleston or somethinglike that, but you never hear
about them until it's over withtheir operational security.

(40:45):
Their OPSEC on these things isfantastic, because you wake up
in the morning and there's aheadline from usually one news
agency that says, hey, thishappened last night and they
saved a bunch of kids, and thenyou never hear anything.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's insane.
And you know, as we're talking,I'm thinking about these, these
agents who do this, who choseoh, you know, I can't even
imagine, I cannot imagine thehorrors that they have to see

(41:18):
and they choose to do it becausethey are just probably some of
the greatest humans on theplanet to to willingly go into
that, knowing that this is goingto unquestionably emotionally
scar them for life.
You know, I don't think you canoverstate how horrific the

(41:40):
things that they have to seepeople doing to children and
with children.
So God bless them for eternityfor being the people who, who do
, do it because it's awful,awful.
It makes me teary, it makes mevery emotional, because it's
just horrendous what these kidsgo through.
So again, god bless them forfor going out and doing this.

(42:03):
And again, you know, when youlook at this, you look at this
one and and kind of related towhat you said, this specific
case is probably related toanother one, like directly
related to another one inanother state.
So there is so right, I meanthey're all connected, these
rings, they're all likelyconnected.
So there will probably be somuch more that comes as a result

(42:25):
of this, because now, theseeight, what was it?
eight arrested they're going toroll over on other people to try
and get their sentences reduced, which I hope they, you know,
rot in jail.
I don't even know if I want thedeath penalty.
I want them to live in horrorfor eternity.
So don't let me at them.
But you know, yeah, they'regoing to roll over on somebody

(42:46):
else and, and so this, this ishuge.
And again, to go back to themedia and the things that
they're focusing their time andattention on, because they have
us trained, like you know, likePavlov's dogs, to, you know,
respond and react to every theirreactions to the transgender
issues, the LGBTQ stuff, all ofthese distractions, distraction,

(43:09):
distraction.
Want to hear more things likethis.
I want to hear more thingsabout really bad people getting
caught and put away and childrenbeing rescued and saved and,

(43:38):
you know, given a chance at atlife.
Yeah, yeah.
There's my soapbox.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
You're a hundred percent right.
I mean, you know we used to,especially, you know, when I was
deployed and and this was goingon in probably the most
heightened years in Iraq,especially probably from 2006 to
2008, you would hit targets andtear them apart and gain as

(44:08):
much intel as you possibly could, and you might even gain enough
, or the right kind of intel, toturn around and hit another
target, or two targets, thatvery night because of the
intelligence you just got.
So what you were talking aboutis, you know, when they break up
this ring, I guarantee you thateverything about this they're
analyzing, they're pulling everybit of data they can.
They're pulling, you know, cellphones or emails, computers,

(44:31):
all this stuff, and now they'relinking it to other things.
And so you know they'reprobably, you know the marshals
are probably treating thisalmost like terrorist
organizations because of thelinkages and they're just, you
know, bouncing from one to thenext because they're, they are
all connected in some form orfashion, like you said, which is
amazing work by them, but thetrauma that they endure is awful

(44:51):
.
Which is amazing work by them,but the trauma that they endure
is awful, you know, you can'tit's, it is irreparable damage
because you know, just as anexample in these 60 kids, one of
the nine-year-olds was was the?
Actually take that back.
I think it was an 11 year oldand 11 year old was with one of
the traffickers, right.
So like those, like you get thatand it just makes you want to

(45:13):
throw up.
A normal human being makes youwant to throw up.
They see this over and over andover again and the scars, I'm
sure, run really, really deep.
I admire them because I thinkover time it would be very, very
easy to run one of theseoperations and I hate to say it

(45:34):
just become judge, jury andexecutioner and one of these
guys on the side.
So I admire them for theirprofessionalism.
But on the flip side, what Iwould love to see in the media
is take this, take OperationDragon Eye, and follow up these
eight people that got arrested.
Like I want to know six monthsfrom now who got prosecuted and

(45:57):
for what and how long they'regoing to jail, and that should
be on the news, because that'swhere the deterrent comes from
and if someone gets releasedright, that's where you get
public outrage, right, right,they don't have to go looking
for it.
It's there and now you know.
And now you can hold judgesaccountable, you can hold
district attorneys accountable,you know those kinds of things.

(46:18):
But it all like this OperationDragon, these eight folks guys
will be arrested, they will gointo the system.
You will never hear anotherthing about these eight people
ever again.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Ever, again, yeah, that's so true, that's so true.
And and and I know you knowI'll speak for myself and I and
I bet that I can speak for a lotof people watching and
listening um, that automaticallyyou can't help but think about
Epstein, the victims of all, allof him and those people

(46:55):
associated with him, um, seeingthem get some type of
vindication, um, from all ofthis.
Um, I, I still hope that thatwill happen.
Um, but we can't minimizethings like this.
You know this, this is, thesekids are just as important as
those kids and you know, everychild is as important.

(47:17):
And you know, and I know it'seasy to to throw that comment in
there, and I'm not saying thatyou guys will, but somebody
might you know and say, well,what about the Epstein?
Yeah, we all agree, we allagree.
What about the Epstein list?
What about those victims?
And we should not, we certainlyshould not, let the DOJ rest on,
you know, on anything and keephammering away at that and keep

(47:38):
demanding it.
But this, these things likethis, are going on across the
country while we are busywatching.
You know Jasmine Crockett'seyelashes and and Trump, you
know swearing and transgenderpeople transgendering, and you
know all of the things going onin the world.
Stuff like this is happeningquietly and people are getting

(47:59):
saved and rescued, and that ishuge.
And people are getting arrestedand hopefully, hopefully,
hopefully held accountable inthe most extreme lawfully
possible way.
I don't even care if it'sunlawful to be honest with you,
but that's just me.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
So we're, you know our, we've got some, you know,
moral and ethical decline goingon.
I mean there's no, there's notwo ways about it.
I had a discussion today, youknow, with a friend who is not
not happy about you know what.
Our topic earlier aboutpresident Trump, you know,
talking the way that he did, youknow, and and he mentioned

(48:36):
something about president Reaganis kind of the, you know that
he's the measuring stick, likethat's the level of nationalism,
and you know, I I said that youknow 1983, which you know was
during president Reagan'spresidency, was the first year
that the word bitch was said ontelevision right.
It was an episode.
Yeah, I remember it as a kid,like I remember, cause it was on
the news.
It was a big deal, but it was1983 and we've been in a rapid

(48:59):
decline since then.
I mean, if you think about that, that's 40 years ago and think
about where we are now in what-?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, that's nothing now right.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Right, the content on the radio, all of those things.
So you know we've got a, we'vegot a more, a moral and ethical
issue going on in in the UnitedStates and and now it's starting
to permeate into our politics.
And New York is a, is is the.
Now you know the example thatthere's, there's some serious
concerns about, and that's thenew.

(49:28):
You know the next mayoralelection this year, and so the
Democrat, let's, let's hit theDemocrats last.
But really what you've got isis the next candidate set for
this election.
So you've got Mayor Adams right, who's in office now, right, he
as an independent, right.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I was going to say he's independent now, right,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
You've got Curtis Sliwa, the guardian angel guy
right, who's hyper conservative,and then you've got Jim Walden,
who's an attorney, again aconservative, and even though he
just lost the Democraticprimary, there is anticipation
that Cuomo is going to run as anindependent just to get himself
back on the ballot.

(50:10):
But the gentleman that he lostthe Democratic primary to is
Zoran Mamdani, who is a Muslim,which that in and of itself is
not necessarily a bad thing, buthe has been publicly for a
number of years extremelyanti-Semitic.

(50:30):
He has said a lot of horrificthings.
He has said a lot ofcontroversial things about the
United States, about the futureof the United States, about our
politics and about ourgovernment, and yet he just won
the Democratic primary in thecity of New York.
And so the fears are London,right, the fears are London,

(50:52):
paris and other places whereyou've had such a massive Muslim
influence, and especiallyLondon, because they have a
Muslim mayor, had a Muslim mayor, right, and things have gotten
out of control.
And the worry is that there'smassive worry from the Jewish
community, as you can imagine,but there's worry from a lot of
people about what this is goingto do to the city of New York if

(51:14):
he gets elected.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, here's a little .
Here's a little lowdown on him.
I don't know.
Let me get that off there, soin case you can't read, just in
case, is this guy Zoran Zoran?
We don't need an investigationto know that the NYPD is racist,
anti-queer and a major threatto public safety.
He wants to end cash bail,repeal the I don't even walking

(51:40):
while trans ban I don't evenknow anything about that
Decriminalization of sex work,legalized marijuana permit, safe
injection sites.
I mean, you know, this is allthings that will spiral the city
into an even deeper, darkercesspool of crime and violence

(52:00):
and decay and disgustingness,really.
So, yeah, I mean, this is whatthis guy stands for.
It's just stunning, isn't it?
And it's just stunning, isn'tit?
And it's also not right becauseof this, uh, you know, migrant
influx into the cities, this,this is who is populating the
cities.

(52:21):
Now, this is all deliberate,this is all planned out and this
is what we've talked aboutbefore how these people, the
democrats, have played, thesocialists have played the long
game while we were sleeping atthe wheel, basically, and and
here you have it.
You know, you have this hugepopular, like you said, london.
You know this huge populationof people who hate America and

(52:44):
American values and now they are, you know, primed to have, you
know, leadership positions inour government.
Terrifying, insane.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah, and he's a dangerous one.
If you go back down through thatlaundry list, part of that a
lot of those things have beentried on the West Coast and in
San Francisco are two perfectexamples of what doesn't work
and what happens to a city.
When you do a lot of thosethings, when you start
minimizing criminal sentencing,when you start legalizing or you

(53:17):
know having the safe injectionsites and you know legalizing
basically massive amounts ofcriminal activity, you know the
entire city degrades and wecan't.
I mean, new York is the crownjewel of the United States.
Like it or not, it is what itis and we as a nation can't

(53:37):
afford to have that, like London, fall into ruin and that's
where this is headed.
There are people and when I saypeople, I'm talking
conservatives, really kind ofmoderates across the board are
asking Cuomo to turn around andrun as an independent, because

(53:57):
if they can all band togetherand elect him, they can avoid
Mom Donnie, right, I mean thatis where things have gone.
This is literally like let'spick the least bad of two bad
options yeah, it's insane.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
It is so mind-blowing , isn't it, that the guy who
killed all the elderly peopleduring covid in in the nursing
homes is now somehow new york'sbest hope, at least on the
democrat side.
Wow, just I.
I'm speechless, clay, like howis this real life, new York?

(54:39):
Please get it together.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, I, you know, I'm really hoping that Mayor
Adams stays in office.
I think, you know, as opposedto really most of the big city
mayors that are floating aroundright now, I think he's he's
actually got a shot at impact.
You know Chicago is a disaster,la is a disaster, you know
Detroit's a disaster, you knowthose, all of those big cities,

(55:07):
those big blue cities, are allcollapsing upon themselves and
we can't have that in New York.
And I think Mayor Adams is onthe right track.
He needs more time.
I don't think he's going to getit.
I really do think he's going tolose this election.
I think that you know God, Ihate to say this, but Cuomo is a
better option than this guy.
But you know, this is the fearright now, because it starts to

(55:30):
bleed into other things.
It starts to bleed intodefunding you saw it right on
that post defunding the policedepartment.
And in the absence of thepolice department, in a
Muslim-influenced citygovernment, what happens is
Sharia law starts to crop up andit's ignored or it can't be
addressed because the policehave been so defunded, they're

(55:52):
so small, they're so overwhelmedthat, you know, neighborhoods
taking care of themselvesbecomes, you know, almost
endorsed because there's noother option.
My guess would be very quietly,because if you see him on TV
now, he is playing the oh no, Ilove the Jewish community.
We'll take care of them.
They're a priority.
We're going to overseeeverything.
We're going to make surethey're taken care of.

(56:12):
I don't believe a word that hesays, no way.
But I honestly believe that hisgoal is to do exactly that
Defund the police, shrink thedepartment, make as much of this
stuff legal so the crime rategoes up, the police department
is overwhelmed and then allowsSharia law to take over in a lot
of the neighborhoods, and thenwe have a real, real problem.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Right, it's just following the playbook.
He's following exactly whatworked in London.
You know, this is a playbook.
This is what they do, and forpeople to be blind to this it's
actually infuriating.
They're just welcoming this inand it is madness and saying,
well, he said, he said he's notgoing to do that.

(56:55):
So we must be telling the truth, because now we believe
politicians, this is what we do.
This is what we do Cause we'reidiots.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Listen, my, my, my least favorite, one of my least
favorite actors, because of thecharacters that he's played.
I you know, Ross on friends isI hate the worst.
And then he played captain.
Sobelepard Ross on Friends is Ihate him.
He's the worst person, Ross,yeah, and then he played Captain
Sobel on Band of Brothers,which is like the.
If you want an example of badleadership, that was the guy
right.
So he's played a couple ofhorrible characters, but he made

(57:23):
a great speech that I saw justthe other day, which was an
anti-Semitism speech him beingJewish, of course and it was
literally like we can't continueto not say something like stand
up and say something, stand upwith your Jewish friends.
We're not asking you to, youknow, go fight against Iran or
go fight against you knowwhoever, but we're asking you to

(57:44):
stand with your Jewish friends,to stand with the Jewish
communities.
It was actually a really welldone speech.
I don't know if it was acommencement speech he didn't
have a robe on Um, so I don'tthink it was that but it had
that kind of I think I did see aclip of it.
Yeah, had that kind of vibe.
Um, I almost didn't recognizehim at first.
His face is so puffy now.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Um, yeah, he looks completely different.
I saw it, but it was a great.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
It was a great speech .
Um and and I to Hollywood tosave anybody from anything, but
I think there is enoughHollywood influence, especially
with the Jewish community inHollywood.
They have the potential to saveNew York in a very indirect way
by pushing against this.

(58:25):
You know what's, truthfully, aradical Muslim running for mayor
.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, very, very radical, very blatantly.
Yeah, you know what?
I agree, clay.
I mean, you know I agree as faras definitely the distaste and
disdain for the Hollywood crowd,but you know, the fact is is
that they do have influence overopinions and and you know
people who follow them andthere's a lot, there's a lot.

(58:53):
So I hope they do the rightthing If they all claim to love
New York so much, they have sucha heart for New York.
It's not gonna be the New Yorkthat you're used to pretty soon
if you let this happen.
So I hope they're payingattention.
Wow, I have not been.
I have to be honest, I have notbeen to the city.

(59:13):
I can't even tell you how manyyears.
Probably 10 years, maybe evenmore.
I think actually more, I thinkmore, and at this rate I
probably will never, ever go.
No interest, I can tell you ifhe gets elected?

Speaker 3 (59:27):
I will not.
I have a family that lives veryclose to the city and they have
.
They have kids that you know,like I did I.
You know I used to run aroundChicago as a wayward youth.
You know, as a teenager.
My mom loves it when I saystuff like that, by the way, but

(59:50):
you know they let their, youknow they let their kids do that
now.
And if this election goesthrough, a year from now, 18
months, two years from now, Idon't think New York would be a
place that you would let yourchild do that.
But we'll have to wait and see.
I really, really hope New Yorkgets it together and makes sure
that this doesn't happen and Ireally hope we're not delaying
the inevitable.
But this first attempt attaking over the mayor's office

(01:00:12):
is something that's gotta bestopped.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah Well, I've said it before, I'll say it again If
you are, they praying, kind,pray, pray, pray.
If you're not, wish and hope, Idon't know what to tell you.
Um, I don't know.
And if you have, you know, ifyou, if you live there, vote,
vote, vote, right, I mean that'sget involved, get, get.
That's always, you know, that'salways kind of like a go-to

(01:00:38):
answer, and I think it is animportant one.
If you, if you don't like whatyou're seeing in your, in your
town, you know you start small,right.
If you don't like what you'reseeing in your town or your city
or your state, you know youhave to start somewhere, get
involved and make your voice beheard.
I mean, that's all, that's whatwe're built on.
So you know, if you don't likeit, please, please, please, do

(01:00:58):
something about it.
At the very least, speak up andspeak out, right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Yep For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Oh, my goodness.
Well, you know, look at that,we four topics, right, four
topics, a little bit of segueshere and there, but there was so
much to so much to talk abouton each one.
And, um, you were so right,they, they segue, you know, very
smoothly, easily into eachother.
Um, yeah, uh, guys, we, we areso grateful every week that you
guys tune in and hang out withus.

(01:01:26):
Um, I'm, I hope my lipstickbrand helps somebody to me.
I actually I'm joking about it,but I, I think that's so sweet
and I'm so sorry that I missedthat message.
Um, I do answer it.
I see those sometimes alwaysabout my lipstick.
Thank you guys very much.
Um, so I hope that solves themystery.

(01:01:46):
Clay hopes it even more.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Do not ask me these questions, people, please.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, don't ask him.
Poor guy Clay, do you haveanything you want to close out
with?
I'm good, I'm good, life's good.
Blah, blah, blah.
You tell them what you got toclose out with.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Yeah, so I moved to a new publisher and my novel on
next week's show.
But a second edition of keepmoving, keep shooting We'll be
out on the 4th of July and thesequel we got pushed back a
little bit but cross to bear isthe sequel to keep moving, keep

(01:02:22):
shooting.
We'll be available in earlyAugust.
So we'll show you the new covernext week of keep moving and
then we'll move forward and youguys will get part two.
Part two, part two in theseries will come in August.
So you know, with that, asalways from me until next week,
keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Take care, guys, we'll see you next week.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
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