February 27, 2025 • 60 mins
The episode delves into the current dynamics of political discourse, focusing on the media's impact on public perception and reaction. Sensational headlines often cause uproar, especially among left-leaning audiences, and we explore the role this plays in shaping conversations around various topics.
• Announcement of podcast and overview of themes
• Discussion of media's tendency to amplify outrage
• Analysis of President Trump's meetings with other leaders and their media portrayal
• Examination of the push for peace in conflictual settings
• The implications of lower court judges on political inertia
• Reflection on the diminishing respect and decorum among politicians
• Public sentiment regarding accountability and integrity from elected officials
• Recap of main arguments and call for civic action
In depth analysis of what’s happening in Israel—and why it matters everywhere.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's another week, another fun batch, huge batch of
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Just hey how you doing Clay.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm good and we do have a ton of stuff to talk
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And you know what?
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know I'm glancing down our listof topics.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I was going to start counting them, and then I was
just reading each one of ourheadlines and I realized that
they all have one very importantthing in common.
Do you have any idea what it is?
They all trigger the left.
They all trigger the left.
Every single one of them sendsthe left into a hysterical
(02:12):
foaming at the mouth frenzy.
Not that you know.
Everything sets them off right.
I mean everything does.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It does and and you know that's kind of the world
we're living in right now andyou know it it that that's where
, because that's what the mediais doing.
I mean, we've been over this amillion times.
You know everything is how thethe and we're going to talk some
, some mainstream media kind ofstuff in the show, but you know
that's it's the dog whistle.
Whatever the mainstream mediais upset about is what, what
(02:40):
gets covered and that's whatsets people into a frenzy.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right and that's what sets people into a frenzy Right
, and of course it's alwaysstarts with that guy's name,
president Trump, and I love youknow I make a point.
You know, I know, over theyears, we, we simplify and we
just say Trump.
You know, Trump, this Trumpthat I especially love these
days, since January 20th.
I love emphasizing PresidentTrump because because I see him
Twitch, you know, every time Isee the eye go.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So I I'm very traditionally.
I will make sure, no matter whoit is, whether I like them or
not, honor the office, honor thetitle.
But that trend started withPresident Bush, second President
Bush, and it was post 9-11, asthe war started to turn.
(03:29):
People weren't necessarily insupport of Iraq.
It wasn't Afghanistan, it wasIraq, and it was notably ABC and
George Snuffleupagus whostarted calling him Bush.
Interesting no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It makes me laugh every time.
Oh okay, so Trump had some bigmeetings I mean, when does he
not have big meetings?
But of course with a littleteeny tiny Macron, and of course
with Putin too, and bigmeetings those were big.
Macron came to him.
So that was.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, it's not a surprise, but that was a last
week, I think Friday or Saturday.
Yeah, he just called him andsaid, hey, I need you to come to
Washington.
And Macron picked up and came,because that's what happens now.
You know they respond.
And so he came to talk aboutEurope and Russia, ukraine, and
(04:44):
you know I'm not saying thatMacron speaks for all of Europe,
the EU, but you know there'sbeen a flip in Germany.
They had their elections lastweek and they went conservative,
you know.
And so I think Macron isprobably the loudest and longest
standing voice to come andspeak to President Trump.
(05:05):
They did their little handshakething, you know where they yes,
their little game yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Which is always entertaining it is.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Also and you were talking about this earlier the
media.
Did you see what they keyed inon from that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I didn't, I didn't, I missed it.
What did they key in on?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So, president Trump and this is the second time that
they brought this up, I justsaw this today so he has a
bruise on the back of his righthand and everybody was like, oh,
his health and oh all, and so,um, he, he said it then and I
think the last time they talkedabout this was a few months ago,
was during the campaign.
Um, and then they said it againuh, it's from shaking hands,
because he shakes hands withhundreds of people every single
day and it's always that.
(05:49):
You know, it's the hand, it'sthe handshake, but the grip, you
know it's yes, shake, and it'sa double handed yeah.
And it just, it bruises the backof his hand.
But that's what.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's what the media keyed in on, not that he's you,
you know, negotiating peacearound the world, never mind
that, don't worry about that.
If it didn't make me laugh, itwould make me crazy, right?
So you got to pick one or theother, so we'll let them be
crazy, we'll just shake our headand laugh.
But yeah, so they met.
(06:19):
Of course, talk about theconflict in ukraine, uh, making
all that kind of stuff, and youknow, of course they have
different perspectives on it.
Macron, you know, he stated hisopinions on it and Trump, and
the Trump administration isbeing pretty firm on, you know,
moving towards, and I think PeteHegseth made some really great
(06:39):
statements about that.
You know about where theirfocus is and not, you know,
because they want to place theblame.
You know, they want to makesure that they get it out there,
right, that Russia started it,russia did it, russia invaded
Russia, russia and I think itwas Hexeth who basically said
listen, we're not, we're notgonna, we're not gonna go there.
We're working on peace.
You know, we're working onresolution.
Not creating more conflict andplaying that game, doing that
(07:01):
tit for tat and back and forth,is not going to bring anybody
closer to some peacefulresolution here.
So, you know, talk about beingdiplomatic and working with
these other countries, but ofcourse, if you're on the left,
that's bad.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, president Trump , this is one of the things that
he kept saying during hiscandidacy, during the campaign,
was that, you know, people keptpressing him about Israel,
palestine.
They kept pressing him aboutRussia, ukraine, and he kept
saying the same thing.
His response was very blunt,but it was always very
consistent and that was I wantthe killing to stop.
That's what he kept saying andthat's what he's doing, and I,
(07:37):
you know, I wrote a blog aboutthis today and the problem is is
that he doesn't care who wins.
You know who gets the credit,or you said it it's, you know,
to make make sure everybodyknows, russia started it.
Nobody cares, nobody cares, um,and because the ending the
killing is the goal, that's thegoal, and that should be.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Nobody with that in mind cares Like nobody.
Whose goal is to put an end toit cares Only.
The only people who care arethe ones that want to keep the
conflict going.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's right.
That's right.
It's the war hawks that wantthis and, truthfully, most of
those people have never seen war, they don't know war, they
don't understand war and,truthfully, they have nothing at
stake except their principlesand that's it.
So unless you're willing togive you, your son, your
daughter, anybody else to gofight the war, then really your
(08:26):
principles stand on nothing.
I hate to say it.
If you're not willing to, youknow, put in that, sacrifice
yourself, then your opinion tome matters very, very little,
especially if you've never beenthere yourself.
So it is.
It's the war hawks out there.
And the Israel-Palestineconflict Israel-Hamas I'm not
saying Palestine, israel-hamasconflict is the same thing.
You know, I know, and youprobably do too, some Jewish
(08:50):
Americans who either went backto Israel, put on their IDF
uniform or they were in Israeland said I could leave and
decided not to, and they stayed.
But the American Jewishcommunity has a vested interest
in this personally.
They have family members thatare involved or have gone on.
You know of their own accord.
But the American Jewishcommunity has a vested interest
in this personally.
They have family members thatare involved or have gone on.
(09:10):
You know of their own accord.
Them I voice your opinion allyou want, because you're in the
middle of it, you know more sothan most.
But all these universitystudents free Palestine and all
this other crap shut up.
They're just war hawking withno relevant experience and no
relevant perspective.
Right, but that's whatPresident Trump's trying to stop
is the killing.
He doesn't care about winnersand losers, he just wants the
(09:31):
dying to stop, and that's whatwe should all be hoping for.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I mean who, you know it's.
It's baffling, isn't it, clay?
It's like who in your, who intheir right mind would, would be
against that would have aproblem with that and look for a
problem with that.
It's beyond comprehension.
And again, the test for that,the test for the truth of that
statement, is when you turn itaround and say, okay, if it were
(09:57):
Biden doing the exact samething, what would your response
be?
What would your reaction be?
And of course, they're notgoing to be honest, you know,
because that's not part of thegame.
But the honest response wherethey to give it would be oh well
, then that would be fine.
Well, that would be great, we'dbe all for it.
It's always going to be aboutwho is the one right, and if
(10:19):
it's Trump, you know what theirreaction is going to be.
It's just it's so predictable,like it's it's hard to.
You know, it's always made meso angry in the past, leading up
to very and it still makes meangry to a degree, but just so
much less because it's sopredictable.
It's so predictable Like, giveme a break, you know, we already
know what your reaction isgoing to be, and I think that's
(10:39):
the Trump administrationattitude also like cry you know,
favorite, our new favorite cryharder, you know, cry harder.
Unless you unless you, can, youknow, legally stop us, which of
course they're they're tryingto do then we're just going to
keep plowing forward, right, andspeaking of, that was the most
excuse I want.
I want props.
That was a brilliant segue thatwas your.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That was probably your best one ever it was.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was accidental.
Can everybody just pat me onthe back?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I ruined it by doing that, but whatever, it's okay.
No, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, but you're right.
So that's the recourse now isappointed not elected, but
appointed judges at lower courtlevels are the ones who are
stepping in, are the ones whoare stepping in.
They're not necessarilyinterpreting the law, but
they're activists, in most cases, that believe they're doing the
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right thing and they'restepping in and they're, you
know, filing.
You know they're eitheropposing, you know, putting a
stop to whatever it is thatPresident Trump is doing, and
then they're forcing an appealprocess and they're just
delaying the inevitable.
But they're putting a strain,an unnecessary strain, on our on
the judicial system, becausethey're generating more work
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unnecessarily.
Now, I don't necessarily agreewith the reaction that's coming
out of Congress, which isthere's a lot of Congress people
who are looking for impeachmentprocesses for some of these
lower court judges If they areacting within the law.
I don't whether you agree withthe process or not.
(12:14):
Fix the process, but I don'tagree with you.
Know he's acting legally, he'sacting within the process, he's
not doing anything illegal orshe for that matter but we don't
agree with what they're doingor how they're doing it, so
we're going to start impeachmentprocess.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Right, yeah, that's, that's fair.
I mean, you know me well enoughto know that I'll jump right on
that and impeach them, impeachthem all, get rid of them.
But, yes, if you know if I putmy big girl pants on, uh, I can
acknowledge that.
Yes, if what they are doing iswithin the scope of their legal
abilities, then yes, I feel likeyou know there should be
(12:54):
something.
I mean, I think they all getinvestigated, no matter what, if
not by, you know, congress orwhoever, certainly by the, you
know social media, the people onthe internet, right?
Because within a hot minute,you know exactly who their
affiliations are, who their wifeworks for and where their
donations come from.
And and you know, you know allof the things very quickly,
(13:16):
which, of course, casts somedoubt on their well, casts a lot
of doubt on their ethicabilities.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
There You're 100% right, because what happens is,
as soon as you have one of thesejudges, even if they're acting
within the limits of the law, assoon as they do something like
this, the spotlight's on themand the internet's going to do
what the internet does rightEverybody sleuths, they
investigate, they dig in.
And then you better hope, ifyou're one of these judges, that
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you are squeaky clean to 100%,because if not, it's going to be
found out.
Whatever it is that you've donewrong is going to be found out.
And then that's when you starthaving legitimate questions and
you start potentially evenhaving legitimate impeachment
processes not necessarily forwhat they have done to, you know
, kind of slow down presidentTrump's uh, you know inertia
(14:10):
that he's got moving, but youknow it'll, it'll be something
in their past.
It'll be.
You know, hey, this, thisseries of decisions are all
suspect, like that's somethingthat somebody needs to look into
or, like you said, donations orwhatever it is.
Everything's going to getchecked out and you better hope
you're clean.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, there's one, you know whose wife and I
forget who it is.
Might be the Rhode Island guy,I'm not sure but, oh, judge, I
should say it was that the wifewas either worked for US AID or
Right, yeah, so you know, I meanit, you know, at the very least
it raises eyebrows and I and Ithink you know very consistently
(14:48):
with the public what ishappening now is that sense of
frustration.
Obviously, but almost you kindof get to this point and I see
this on social media,particularly on apps like this
almost like apathy starts to setin.
They're like, yeah, whatever,yeah, we know, but nothing ever
happens.
You know, and I find itinteresting how quickly people
(15:14):
can turn and we know this well,of course, that they turn on a
dime.
But even people within theRepublican party or
conservatives, you know,whatever, however you want to
label yourself, the Republicanparty or conservatives, you know
whatever, however you want tolabel yourself I see it on X
it's like people who have beenhighly, highly supportive, like
have the word MAGA in theirusername or in their their name,
(15:34):
and who are now, you know,making like little swipes and
say like, well, this isn'thappening fast enough, thought
you said you're going to do this, but, dude, he's been in for
like five weeks.
You were just like three postsago talking about how much
they've accomplished in shortorder.
You know, and they're gettingmad.
I see people getting all tickedoff that.
You know Pam Bondi and uh,kristi Noem and Heg Seth and you
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know all of them, um, aregetting a lot of airtime on lots
of different media programs.
You know they're, they're on,they're on Fox doing a sit down
there on this one doing a sitdown.
You know, and and people arelike, well, you should be doing
your job and not doing all theseinterviews.
It's not a.
It's not a.
You know a popularity tour orwhatever.
You know whatever they'recalling.
It's like how do you want themto get this information to us?
(16:18):
Yeah, how much do you wantCarolineavitt to do?
Like, do you want her just tostand behind the podium 24 hours
a day and tell you everything?
I mean?
What do you want people Calmdown.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You know that's interesting.
So we're obviously we're all aproduct of our environment.
And going back to, you know,headline News is the one who
really, really, you know, kindof turned the table on this.
They were the one that was the24-hour news source, right and
it was in, you know, kind ofturned the table on this.
They were the one that was the24 hour news source right and it
was in, you know, 30 minutebites or 10 minute bites.
They were the one who really, Ihate to say, crush the American
attention span.
(16:52):
But that's all where it started.
So you had CNN, which was 24hour news, and then they brought
in headline news and it was,you know, was the cycle, and it
was the ticker at the bottom.
And you had, you know, youactually, at one point I think,
they had a news ticker, a sportsticker and a financial ticker
all running at the same time.
But you know, people, that'swhat they expect now, everybody
expects 24 hour news.
(17:12):
They expect, you know.
Do you think that there willcome a day where we will have
like two or three presssecretaries that run shifts?
You know what I mean, likepress briefings a day?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I tell you it wouldn't surprise me in the
least.
It wouldn't surprise me becauseyou know people.
I mean everything you just said.
I don't even have to reiterateeverything you just said.
I mean everything you just said.
I don't even have to reiterateeverything you just said.
Everything you just said is soaccurate and such a great
(17:50):
depiction of where we're at,where our brains are.
At that short attention span,that need for a constant it's
like that dopamine hit.
You know, of news, negativenews, whatever the news is
mostly negative, combative stuff.
You know it's it's the dopaminehit that people get from that
over and over again.
And of course, they know thatthey've studied this and this is
why you have 24 hour news andit's really just a repeat of the
same things over and over andover again.
(18:11):
You know there's nothingdramatically new, it's just the
constant repeat.
But people get that in in theirbrains and they can't function
without.
You know, I don't know, knowingwhat the president Trump had
for lunch today, it's like crazy, crazy, crazy and very, very
mentally unhealthy.
And I know, I know a few peoplewho have that running in the
(18:34):
background of their livesconstantly, like the news is
always on, always on.
It's like dude.
Like the news is always on,always on.
It's like dude, go outsidetouch grass and listen.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
you know you and I do this once a week.
I know you do prep.
I know I do prep.
You know I blog a couple oftimes a week.
You're constantly doingpolitical commentary stuff.
Right, this is what you and Ido and this is not my life Like.
You have to take a break fromthis stuff for your own mental
well-being.
But the networks I'm going tobest you on your transition.
(19:04):
The networks are reacting toratings.
And when the ratings suck whenthe ratings suck, there are
repercussions, right.
So Joy Reid for those of youthat aren't tracking and I think
everybody's tracking Joy Reidgot fired from MSNBC because why
Her ratings suck.
And why do her ratings suck?
Because all she does is bashPresident Trump and the
(19:27):
Republican, conservative side ofthings which crushed the
election.
Like, if you don't change yourprogramming, no one's gonna
watch it, and she didn't.
And now she's out of a job.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Out of a job.
And what does she do?
She cries about it.
And she didn't.
And now she's out of a job.
Out of a job.
And what does she do?
She cries about it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
That, um that what I was doing had value.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Had value.
Yeah, if it had value, peoplewould watch it.
Right, people are not watchingit.
Did you see Rachel Maddow?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yes.
Yes On the same, I don't youknow, just in case somebody
doesn't know.
On the same network, samenetwork.
Yep and she came out in supportof her friend Joy she did.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, she came out and she, she, you know,
basically told MSNBC that theywere making a huge mistake, uh,
that she respected nobody moreand, you know, cared about
nobody more in the business thanJoy Reid.
And you know she said the samething of value, like Joy Reid
was of value.
She also, you know, played theguilty white person race card
and said, you know the fact thatthey kept her and Jen Psaki is
(20:34):
the only.
You know two people, you knowtwo hosts you know, on a solo
show and they both happen to bewhite.
You know it was a mistake.
Whatever the news networks arefiguring out again that this is
a business and if the ratingsdon't support it, you're done.
Listen, I've said this beforeGutfeld is, to me, is not a
(20:57):
great show.
People love it.
It's the highest rated show.
It beats the, you know, itbeats um, um, all the nightly
entertainment post news, youknow, um shows all all.
It's number one in the ratingsand it stays on.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm going to.
I'm going to tell you, and andeveryone watching and listening,
something that might beshocking.
I've never watched a single oneof these shows.
I have never watched.
I can't even name for you onenew show that I have watched for
more than a clip, you know anecessary clip, and it kind of
(21:35):
goes back to what we were sayingbefore about.
You know, this is this is whatwe do for a living, this is this
is our job, this is what we do,um, but we also have a life and
I don't want to be sucked intothe vortex of this negativity.
Uh, you know, like I wastelling you, the person that I
know that watches it, has it inthe background 24, seven.
Um, I'm not that person.
(21:55):
I, I take as much, I consume asmuch as I need to to be able to
talk about the things that Ineed to talk about and know the
things that I need to know, andthat's it.
I couldn't.
You know, I go on X and all ofthese.
Um, you know people who, whoare apparently a big deal in our
field.
I don't know who they are, noidea, no clue whatsoever, and I
(22:18):
make no apologies for it?
I am idea no clue whatsoeverand I make no apologies for it.
I am.
I am actually gleefully sayingthat because it's it's.
I live a very peaceful, happylife and I'm not going to trade
that for anything you know, yeah, I do a little more interacting
than you do.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I know that you on on your, you know, on your social
media is you, you know yourinteraction is is pretty low and
good for you for controllingthat.
I do, you know, interact withfolks.
You know, when I blog and I getsome negative reactions and
some of them are pretty visceraland okay and I'll interact,
I'll do a little bit of back andforth, but when I'm done with
you I just stop, I stop.
(22:52):
You know, and you know I've hadpeople come back and be like oh
, you don't have anything elseto say.
Oh, clearly, you know I'm right, no, it's because I'm tired of
listening to you.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm just done with you.
Yeah, I just actually have alife and I and you don't matter.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You are not as relevant to me as you think you
are.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not sittinghere entertaining discussions
with you know, six or 700 peopleat a time.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like I'm out, like I gotta take the trash out, I
gotta go, like you know, like Ihave a life, yeah, yeah, I've
got, I've.
You know, I've had people get,you know, make kind of angry
comments like, oh, she doesn'ttalk to anybody, she doesn't
respond to any comments, which Ido.
Actually, I respond to, um, I,you know, anywhere from 10 to 20
comments.
I mean that's like I don't know, if I had to give an average,
(23:40):
that would be my average perpost.
You know, that's what I aim for.
I try to engage.
There are definitely postswhere I don't, but you know, I
don't know what to tell you.
I have, uh, I don't know, I havelike five platforms that I post
to daily, multiple times a day,and they have and I'm so
blessed and humbled and gratefulthat they have high engagement
and people are commenting andarguing with each other in there
and all of that.
Um, I can't.
There will be no time to makecontent if that's all I'm doing.
(24:03):
I can't do it.
And I need to protect my mentalhealth too because, like you
said, people you know love tocome in with a negative comments
and say some pretty hostile,non-nice things, and it's fine,
it doesn't hurt my feelings, itactually helps me, because any
engagement in a post is positiveas far as the algorithm is
concerned.
You know what I mean.
So I'm like, you know, commentaway, tell me how much you hate
(24:24):
me, whatever, but I'm not goingto engage with you.
You know I don't have any needor desire to do that, but but
yeah, I just took us so far offthe path?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
No, not at all.
But, like you know, Lester Holtsaw the writing on the wall.
He knew because of who he isand you know he's a Chicago guy.
I mean, I grew up with LesterHolt on the news and he has
walked away from NBC, resigned,because he knew that he can't
and won't change.
(24:52):
You know his approach to thingsand his ratings are terrible
and, truthfully, he was probablygoing to get fired anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So um, yeah, good on him, smart on him.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'll even say I'll even say I'll give credit to, uh
, rachel Maddow, for you know Idon't like her or agree with her
, any of those things but I giveher lots of credit for for
standing up for what shebelieved there and who she
believed in and, um, you know,putting herself potentially at
risk.
Um, I give her credit for that.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Especially if you look.
So you know I think it wasabout five years ago.
She signed that massive,massive contract Maybe it wasn't
even that long ago and then shewas on for about a year and
then she took like a whole yearhiatus in her contract and they
had all these guest hosts whichdidn't work out well, and now
her show is down to one day aweek.
She was a five day a week show.
(25:39):
She's down to one day a weekand so, truthfully, she's not
safe either, right?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, I don't think she is at all, and maybe she knows
that too and didn't care.
So she's like I'm already.
I know I'm next on the choppingblock, so what do I care?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, there's a lot of that going around over there
and again abysmal and it's abusiness.
So if you don't get on boardand you don't make yourself
palatable, you don't even haveto have an appeal.
But if you're not evenpalatable by 60% of the viewing
audience, you're done Likethere's too much out there.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But even you know and I and I say this a little
cheeky, cheekily because youknow, I know people are going to
come in and say there's no suchthing as this.
But I think even the moderateleft, the people who maybe
wouldn't identify themselves asbeing on the left, maybe just
simply liberal, they even can'ttake that constant high level
(26:31):
anger and hostility andnegativity, because that is all
it is.
It's just such a constantbarrage of hate and anger and I
think even they're like you knowwhat?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I just I can't, I gotta go touch grass you know,
and so you can see it in thereaction to politicians and
we'll do another, anothertransition, right, right.
Wisconsin is prime example.
You and I have talked aboutthis, and it's not just us folks
, listen.
You know.
There have been a number ofpeople, high level people in the
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Democrat party, who have saidwe have got to change what we're
doing, otherwise we're going tokeep losing.
Right, right and but.
But they don't.
And so you've got like a primeexample.
That was the governor ofWisconsin has decided that they
are going to remove the wordmother from all legal
documentation within the state.
And what is it?
(27:27):
Inseminated person.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, exactly, I've got a graphic.
I think we can keep talkingwhile we got the graphic up here
.
So these are the proposed wordchanges, name changes, what we
have there, of course, theartificially or now the
inseminated person instead ofmother.
That would.
That would make a really cuteMother's Day card Right, happy
inseminated person's day.
(27:50):
Inseminated person.
Thanks for getting inseminated,I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You know Hallmark, hallmark is jumping on that.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You know they are you know they are, they have to.
Yeah, so you know, again, againtrying to erase any bit of
common sense or tradition or anysense of normalcy and then to
double down I mean I think youknow kind of double down on it
Like, well, no, yeah, this is,you know, this is the way we're
going.
Well, no, yeah, this is youknow, this is the way we're
(28:20):
going, this is what we're doing.
And, of course, there's quite afew other liberal states,
liberal governors that you knoware doing the same type of
doubling down on all of thisstuff and it's like good do it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
So Gretchen Whitmer is one.
So that, just if you saw it ornot, so you know, the Supreme
Court, you know of the UnitedStates, the SCOTUS, has said you
know, gay marriage is legal,blah, blah, blah.
Right, we're not going to standin the way of, you know, gay
couples and their pursuit ofhappiness.
(28:50):
Ok, fine, right now, the stateof Michigan and and their
legislature are forwarding abill where they say, in the
state of Michigan, no, right, sothe voters right, this is, the
voters are saying this Um, andand they're, they're expecting
the bill to pass.
Um, and the governor, gretchenWhitmer, has said absolutely not
(29:14):
, I don't care what the voterssay.
Wow, and I'm trying to figureout when, somewhere along the
way, our elected officials arenow ignoring the will of the
people, the will of the peoplethat put them in office.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's just wild, they don't care.
And they're just, they're just,they don't care, they don't
care, they're just throwing itright out there in the open.
They want to be, you know, minidictators in their states.
And, and you know, I don'tblame them, because they've
gotten away with that for awhile.
They've gotten away with it.
So you know, now they actuallybelieve I think they sincerely
(29:51):
believe that this is whatthey're entitled to do.
And you know it is theresponsibility of the voters to
make their voices heard and sayno.
And you know it is theresponsibility of the voters to
make their voices heard and sayno.
And you know people, the leftgets all up in arms about all of
this stuff.
But you know, really, this is,this is what you want.
You want your states, meaningthe people, to have the control
(30:14):
of what happens in their state.
That is the way it is intended,it was intended to be.
That is the way it is intended,it was intended to be.
So, whatever it is that youwant, whether it's gay marriage
or the right to marry yeah, Idon't know Whatever Gay marriage
or, whatever the case is,Abortion, whatever the case is,
whatever your opinion or feelingis, go make it known by your
(30:36):
vote.
I mean, that's the way it goesand of course you know people
like Gretchen uh, gretchen needto be um, just kicked out of
there.
I was going to swear, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Listen, I veto power, I get, okay, the president's
got veto power, Governors haveveto power, Right, and there
that's.
That's all part of checks andbalances within the system.
Um and okay, fine.
But when you've got a governorwho has made it very clear that,
no matter what right Because inthe checks and balances you
(31:07):
have a veto you have a way tooverride a veto she's made it
pretty clear that even if shevetoes and then her veto is
overridden, she's going to donothing.
She's going to oppose this inevery way possible, probably up
to and including obstructing thelaw because of her personal
beliefs versus what the state,you know, citizenry, you know is
(31:28):
asking for.
So I don't get this.
I think we've lost.
Like you said, there's a senseof entitlement for a lot of
these folks.
We're seeing it in judges.
A sense of entitlement for alot of these folks.
We're seeing it in judges.
Right, there's appointed judgeswe talked about earlier.
You know the sense of like well, I can do this, I can.
You know, it doesn't matterwhat is good for the country or
it doesn't matter what, you know, the constituency says.
(31:49):
I'm going to do what I believeis right, and we saw that
through COVID.
You know the governors who had,you know, the best interest of
their people at heart.
Kristi Noem is a prime example.
They shut down nothing in SouthDakota, literally not a thing.
And then you have the opposite.
And you have New York, right,and we've got there is a whole
(32:11):
bunch of dead people based onbad decisions by governors,
right, and California, right, wehave bad decisions by that
governor on a daily basis, butthey've lost the bubble on who
they work for.
Yes, and that is the problem.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, and you know, and what it'll come down to I
guess really is is shame on thevoters, shame on the people If
you don't make a big stink aboutthis and get them out.
I mean, to me it's criminal,you know, I don't know if I'm
right or not.
If it's criminal, it certainlysounds criminal to me.
You're, you're, you know,essentially ignoring the process
(32:47):
of what we're founded on, youknow.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But yeah, there's a.
There's a bit of a loss ofdecorum by our elected officials
another transition.
Loss of decorum by our electedofficials Another transition.
So you know, dan Crenshaw justthe other day got caught on a
hot mic and he can defend thisall he wants, but he's one of
(33:17):
three recently that you knowhave have lost decorum.
He was a little bit he was ahot mic, so he wasn't
necessarily publicly, but youknow he threatened to kill
Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
In a response to a question in an interview.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Right, we've got it.
We've got it, we can play it.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Play it.
Have you ever met Tucker?
We've talked a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I haven't met him.
He's the worst person have youever met?
Tucker.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So I did purposely play it twice.
So his, his part is very quietbecause he's not miked at the
moment.
Yeah, but I've watched itmultiple times and you know I of
course there's people say, oh,it's AI, it's not everything is
AI.
Everybody calm down.
It's not with the AI.
No, I mean that you know itsounded pretty clear.
(34:09):
And then he kind of goes alittle further with it, further
with it, you know, saying he'sthe worst person in the world.
And then Tucker, you know yougot to love Tucker.
Whether you like Tucker or not,I like his, I like his response
.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
He was like you want my address?
Here's my address.
Come on over.
It's a bad teenage movie.
It's the bully, you know,football player kind of guy, you
know picking on the smart kidfirst, first telling the truth,
right, and that's really what itboils down to Listen,
crenshaw's a Rhino, uh, straightup.
Um, you know, I was I, and he'sreally shown his colors in the
last nine months.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
He's got a history of losing his cool, saying crazy
aggressive stuff.
Know, I mean he doesn't have,he does not have good
self-control.
That's probably the nicestthing I can come up with to you
know, to say about him right now.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean and he, he does, you know, he, he uses his,
he uses his past service.
Right, you know, I, I know,listen.
Everybody knows he was a navyseal.
Everybody knows he lost his eyein combat.
That doesn't give him an excuseto act like an asshole, sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No it doesn't Listen.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I got, I got my.
I got my own time.
I got both my eyes, but I gotmy own time.
I got plenty of time in combat,um, and that doesn't give you
the right to act like an asshole.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And I'll tell you right, he does hide behind that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
He uses that as a you know he, he tries, he uses we
refer to it as the vet passright, like.
You can act however you want,but oh, I'm a veteran and
nobody's allowed to touch you.
Well, I'll say it veteran toveteran, you know he's out of
line.
It's unprofessional, truthfully, not only as an elected
official, but oh, by the way,dan, go back to when you were a
(35:47):
Navy officer, unprofessional inpublic to act like that.
You can't hide behind the factthat you're a Navy SEAL.
Sorry, pal.
And oh, by the way, if you wantto pick on somebody, pick on
somebody your own size.
Come after somebody who's got alittle bit more to them than
Tucker, right?
I mean, if you really want tobe a badass, there's plenty of
people out there that will stepup and go toe to toe with you.
(36:08):
I guarantee it.
So stop being a bully and be agrownup.
But he's not the only one, andthat's the problem.
I saw an interview with JonStewart and AOC the other day,
right, oh, that one.
So it was a great interviewbecause she essentially admitted
that there's insider tradinggoing on inside of Congress.
She said it and you know heapplauded her for doing it
(36:29):
because she was honest about it.
Yeah, and you know he applaudedher for doing it because she
was honest about it, yeah, butalso in the conversation she
forgets that she's an electedofficial and or maybe she
doesn't care, but she cursesinside of the interview more
than once and it's like wherewhere did the decorum go?
I know she's trying to be cooland she's trying to be this and
she's trying to be that, butwe're like she's in an interview
(36:53):
that is going to be all overthe Internet and she can't
maintain that level ofprofessionalism that we expect
out of our elected officials.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, you know, this is a.
This is a pattern.
This is.
This is widespread, you know.
You look at Fetterman and his.
You know shorts and hoodie allthe time.
You look at what's her nameJasmine Crockett Is that her
name?
Yeah, dropping F-bombs.
What do you think of?
Who is Elon?
What would you say to Elon?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Right and just you know in public at a podium, like
in front of a microphone, likeat a rally.
You know, elon Musk like yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
So are you kidding me right now?
Yeah, oh yeah, it's.
It is appalling and I hope Iwould like to see you know,
obviously, of that.
(37:53):
You know to say from this pointforward, you will, you know,
conduct yourself in a way thatis representative of your
station, of who you are and whatyou are.
You're representing thiscountry.
You know there's not a worldstage.
This isn't your backyard.
You know you're not sitting inyour house or at some bar
talking it up with your friends.
(38:13):
You are a representative of theUnited States of America.
Fricking, act like one.
I could swear if I want to, andI try not to.
Even you should not be swearing.
You should be dressedappropriately.
You should act appropriately.
You should have some kind ofcode of conduct.
I know there is.
There is a code of conduct.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
While they are in chambers.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
There is a code of conduct, while while they are in
chambers.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's the problem.
That is the problem, you'reright.
Rules of decorum insidechambers.
So there are certain things youcan say and not say, and
processes and procedures, butonce they step out, they.
It used to be that politicians,for the most part in public,
would honor the professionalismand the rules of decorum.
Right, listen, lbj Lyndon,baines Johnson was a notorious
foul mouth, notorious, but hedid it in private.
(38:57):
Right, he did it behind closeddoors.
And there are, listen, ourpoliticians are not, and never
have been, innocent.
However, there is an appearancethat needs to be maintained.
Right, for the American people.
And oh, by the way, now morethan ever, because the entirety
of the world sees everythingthat we're doing.
Right, they're not reading itin newspaper, they're not, you
(39:19):
know, watching an edited clip onTV.
They're getting it live,they're getting it on the
internet.
So, if you can't representyourself or your nation that way
, you probably need tore-examine what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, oh, there needs to be a lot of firings.
I think I would like to see alot of people, either whether
it's impeached or fired or Idon't know reprimanded at the
very least for not respectingthe role, not respecting the
position, certainly for notrespecting the president of the
United States.
(39:50):
You know, I mean all of thosethings we just want to say.
I think you know I don't tryand speak for other people often
, but I think I can when I saywe just want to see that
accountability, we just want tosee, you know, the, the simple
common sense, uh, respectability, all of those natural, normal
things that we shouldn't evenhave to be mentioning because
(40:11):
they're so matter of course butyet here we are.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I think we all want to see that.
Yeah, I think my opinion isthat the party leadership should
be the ones taking the lead onthis.
Johnson Speaker Johnson shouldbe calling Dan Crenshaw into his
office today.
Come on in, close the door,right, right, and then read him
the riot act, right, period,yeah, and, and that should, and
that should be the end of it,like crenshaw should be on his
(40:41):
best behavior for the rest ofthe time he's in office, which I
have a sinking feeling is notgoing to be that long.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
So, by the way, I find that whole Crenshaw thing
disappointing.
I really, initially, in thebeginning, I really liked him.
I liked him so much.
I thought he was going to be areally big deal for the party
and for the country really andwow, was I wrong.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's a shame, what a shame.
So, yeah, I would hope thatthose level of party leaders
would, but they won't.
I don't know if Johnson will ornot, but I know that nobody on
the Democratic side is going tocall AOC and go hey, clean up
your mouth, because she's goingto tell them no and she's going
to do whatever she wants.
So if there aren't anyrepercussions, then it doesn't
(41:29):
really matter.
Well, you?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
know, you've got, you've got.
We're talking about a countrywhere you have federal workers
who are mad and refusing to tellessentially their boss, which
is the president, five thingsthat they did at work.
Today, like you can't even getfederal workers to do that
willingly, so forget trying toget any of the higher up ones to
(41:53):
do anything that they'resupposed to do.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah we weren't going to talk about Doge, but there's
a pretty visceral response tothat whole thing.
I wrote a blog on it on Mondayand you know DOD's response.
Secretary Exif was like listen,we're not doing that.
And the reason he said that isbecause DOD does it anyway, like
every unit and every suborganization underneath
Department of Defense sends up aweekly sit rep, a situation
(42:16):
report.
They send it up every week andit's built from the bottom all
the way up and it goes into thepeople that it needs to go into.
So he just looked at it and hesaid we're not doing that.
There's a couple of otherdepartments within the
government that said the samething.
We're not doing that.
We don't work for OPM and Elonhas no influence over what we're
doing.
We're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
And okay, fine If you're already doing something
like that if you're doing whatyou're supposed to be doing,
then it's all good.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
But there's, there's so many people that have, you
know, just overreacted to thisthing.
I the blog I wrote about waslike this is, like, you know,
office space, then the TPSreport.
You know, it's the samereaction and it's, it's crazy.
If you can't take and Elon saidit himself five minutes, five
bullets, that's it, that's allit takes, you know, and the
(43:02):
smart person will figure out,especially if they have a
repetitive job, they will writethe same five things down and
they will submit the same fivethings every week.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Right, that's all.
It's not that hard.
It's not that hard people.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Of course, you are the postmaster general.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Oh, that guy.
Oh, my goodness.
So this is all right.
So it's, it's part comical.
I couldn't help but laugh.
I made a skit about it becauseit just the lunacy of it.
So so let's, let's just showthis, let's just show um, our,
our postmaster general.
(43:38):
So here's here's first, just uh, I think this is the picture,
let's see.
So here he is covering his earsbecause he does not want to
hear the questioning.
And here, here's what happened.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
You, were graded by the United States people and
they don't use your serviceanymore.
You bankrupt that is not true.
You bankrupt this through yourreputation, only Through your
reputation.
You are responsible for thefall of the Postal Service and
the lack of accountability.
Congress is responsible for thefall of the Postal Service.
I am trying to fix the PostalService On your watch with all
the AI.
(44:09):
Before my watch, the same stuffhappened With all the AI, with
all the computer systems.
You're worse than if I took ahorse and picked up the mail and
delivered it two miles down theroad.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So yeah, so there's that.
So now, mind you, this guy'sbeen on the job for quite a
while, so he's saying he'strying to fix it.
You know, since he's been therehe's been trying to fix it.
Well, last year they reported$9.5 billion, with a B in net
losses for 2024.
So that includes pensioncontributions for its retirees
(44:40):
and workers' compensation claimsfor employees injured on the
job.
You've got an 80% decrease involume of outgoing mail, but he
added 190,000 employees.
Make it make sense, right, makeit make sense.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
So it's.
You know, everybody knows, withemail, right Email covers,
that's where the 80% decrease inoutgoing mail comes from.
Email, electronic bill paytechnology is doing the work of
the postal service right.
The problem is is that we arereaching that point of the peak
of employment which was in the70s and into the 80s, right Of
(45:21):
the postal service and now thosefolks who were hired back then.
For those that don't know, ifyou work at the postal service
there is no use or lose vacationor sick time.
So if you don't use yourvacation it continues to accrue
for your entire career.
I know of multiple peoplepersonally who worked 35, 40
(45:42):
years at the post office.
You know, said I'm retiring andthey had 12 or 13 months of
paid vacation or sick time thatthey just didn't work, they took
it all at the end.
They stayed fully paid for 12to 13 months before they took
their pension.
So somebody's got to do thatjob right.
(46:04):
And so you know.
Now you've got you know, and Idon't know what the percentage
is, but any good organizationhas an overage to cover for
vacations, to cover for sick, tocover for right.
So say it's a 10%.
Now you're incurring that loadof personnel for a year, and
this is not uncommon folks, soyou know, any business that
(46:26):
loses $9.5 billion in a year isout of business.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, out of business .
You're done.
You're done and you're out of ajob if you're the guy or woman
who's supposed to be in chargeof making that operation run
efficiently and well.
I mean, this is probably one ofthe greatest examples of
horrific, uncheckedmismanagement, poor management,
zero management, and then youknow the arrogance and the
(46:53):
audacity to cover your ears,Cause are you kidding me?
What a child.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Right, I mean, that was that was.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That was actually kind of shocking, like I can't
believe that I am witnessing agrown man covering his ears
Cause he doesn't want to hear.
It's just crazy to me Again,you see, this is why, if I think
to laugh about this, if I don'tlaugh, it's going to make me
crazy Clay.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, and you said it .
It's horrible management, it'sthe worst kind of leadership.
But at the same time, these arethe things that the general
public doesn't know about, right, and they look at and when they
find out they're appalled.
But at the same time, you aregoing to have because they're
(47:41):
going to start closing downthings in the post office,
you're going to see post officesclose.
You're going to see postalcarriers that are going to get
you know, let go get fired Likethey're going to shrink the post
office as a result of this, andyou are going to have all kinds
of people that are going to bescreaming and yelling that we
need the post office.
We can't shrink the post office.
You know, I know people who arepostal carriers.
What are they supposed to dofor a job?
(48:02):
Listen, I hate it for them.
I do, yes, but like.
This is.
The reason why we are trillionsand trillions and trillions of
dollars in debt is because ofstupid crap like this.
This is.
This is inexcusable, but thisis.
This is what the president ranon and this is what he's been
doing for the five weeks he'sbeen in office.
Right?
This isn't even doge, right?
This is just.
(48:22):
This is out in the open how badthis is being run.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, this is.
This is a matter of you know,like you said, president Trump
doing exactly what he said hewas going to do.
He's going to root out all ofthe misappropriations, the
misuse, the fraud, the wastefulspending, all of the things to
make America great again.
Give us our money back, put itback in our pockets, stop
(48:49):
bleeding us dry.
All of the things that hepromised is exactly what he's
doing.
So to act shocked and get madbecause it's happening.
You know, and I agree with you.
Yes, of course, I feel I feelbad for anybody who is facing
the loss of their job.
You know that's terrifying to,especially when you have a
family.
You know all of the things inlife, but you know, just like
(49:09):
you did with the other federalemployees, I'm sure they're
going to get quite a bit ofnotice.
And you know, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know what totell you.
I mean, this is really aboutthe good of the entire country
and if you want to be angry atanyone, be angry at the previous
administrations, and I add an Sto the end of that.
This to happen, to get to thispoint where it has to be so
(49:33):
drastic and so shocking and justlike to gut everything, because
on everybody else's watch, itwas allowed to just keep
snowballing and snowballing, andsnowballing and snowballing.
And here we are.
You know trillions andtrillions and trillions of
dollars in debt.
You know the things thatthey're finding.
It is just shocking, appalling.
So yeah, it is what it is.
(49:54):
But, not as much as a not enoughto want it to stop, that's for
sure.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, you said it, plural administrations.
I keep going back to 1992,right, Cause I think that a lot
of this started with presidentClinton and his administration.
You know and so and, and it'sbeen snowballed since then.
So you know if you've been, nomatter which party you're
supporting, like they're bothguilty.
There is administrations onboth sides of the aisle that are
(50:19):
responsible During the war waspart of it.
I know that you know big, biggov as a concept is the reason
we are where we are now.
So if you've been voting forthat and supporting it, you own
part of this, and I can't saythat enough.
I feel bad for people too.
I'm tired of listening topeople say oh, what about
so-and-so?
(50:39):
My friend, this, Okay, who didyou vote for?
Who have you been voting for?
Have you been voting?
Have you been holding yourelected officials accountable?
No, and it's the apathy thatyou talked about earlier and
that's kind of where we're at.
But now we've got an activeinsurgency inside of our own
government, Right, and asPresident Trump is again
(51:00):
honoring a campaign promise toclean out, you know, illegal
aliens, Now we've got aninsurgency in some of these blue
states and blue cities that areputting our law enforcement at
risk.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is infuriating, absolutely
infuriating.
So you have, let's see, well,of course you have.
You know.
You have cities like Boston andSan Diego who are like
reaffirming their commitment totheir sanctuary policies or like
doubling down on it.
You've got people like AOC whoare, you know, giving out
instructions how to you knowright, to avoid ICE or to not
(51:37):
get detained.
I forget exactly what.
You know, some cases wherethey're they're complying not
nearly enough, but you have,let's see.
You have, let's see.
I'm reading my notes, as youcan tell, let's see, there was
one I wanted to find for you.
Oh, this was the one.
So this is in surprise,surprise.
Los Angeles, oh, yeah, right,you know, actively disrupting
(52:06):
ICE operations by posting flyersthat reveal the names and
personal information of ICEagents, including, you know,
their photos and phone numbers.
So they're doxing them, youknow, and putting them, like you
said, clay, you know, at risk,in risk of harm.
Know, at risk, in risk of harm.
You know, wow is all I can say.
And you know that you've gotthese.
You know idiot politicians thatare fueling this and that are
feeding this information,because where else are they
going to get it?
Really, you know, they call itactivist interference, but you
(52:26):
know a lot of these politiciansthey're.
They're activists disguised aspoliticians.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
It's an insurgency, that's what this?
is.
This is an insurgency andthey're putting our law
enforcement at risk because of adifference of opinion on
whether or not the specific lawsshould be enforced.
Whether you like it or not,folks, if someone is here
illegally, they are a criminal.
Okay, period, over and out.
(52:52):
So our law enforcement aretasked to enforce the law.
President Trump has made this apriority.
He ran on it.
That's what the American publicvoted for.
It's been a mandate and our lawenforcement officers that
everybody defended.
When they raided Mar-a-Lago,everybody defended them.
Now we've got law enforcementagents enforcing the law and
they're getting thrown under thebus and, truthfully, their
(53:13):
lives are being put at riskbecause people disagree with
what they're doing.
This is an insurgency.
Thankfully and I say this withall shock there are cities like
Chicago that are actuallyturning against their
politicians.
So the mayor of Chicago I couldnot believe this the other day
the mayor of Chicago has an andI don't know which is worse an
(53:34):
80% disapproval rating, did you?
say 80% 80, 80% disapprovalrating or only a 7% approval
rating, like I don't know.
I don't know which one ofpublic programs are being cut
that normally go to this.
You know the residents of thecity, but those programs are
(54:00):
being cut to benefit illegalaliens, the sanctuary city,
prospect and all these otherthings.
But so you've got at least onecity out there that said we're
done with this crap, and they'reand they're turning against it.
So kudos to Chicago and theresidents there for for turning
against the mayor, who is donewith this crap, and they're
turning against it.
So kudos to Chicago and theresidents there for turning
against the mayor, who is apiece of trash.
He's got a lot of problems, butthis is one of the big issues.
But everywhere else you said itLos Angeles, san Diego, boston.
(54:24):
That lady's a lunatic, lunatic.
Yes, it's all bad.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Maine.
Different set of circumstances,different case, but just
another example of these, youknow, democrat politicians
believing that they don't haveto follow the laws like crazy
and they don't have to followwhat their voters are telling
them to do.
And you know, they're, they're,they're come up, they're come
(54:49):
up and come up, it's right, yeah, we'll come, it will come, it
will happen.
Well, that was a hard one forme to say.
Yeah, holy cow, it's just, it's, it's wild, it's wild.
And you know, I think againhaving the nerve to speak for
more people.
You know, we expect to see someconsequences for this.
There has to be consequence forthis.
(55:10):
This isn't, you know, witchhunt.
This isn't retribution for what, trump, this is just common
sense.
If you're breaking the law, ifyou're, you know, ignoring the
laws of the land, if you'reignoring your voters, what they
are telling you to do, you'reout, you're gone.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
So you know, and that is a theme right now across
social media, and I think people, there's a little bit of
patience that needs to be, youknow, taken in some of this, but
there's been an overwhelming,that sentiment has been
overwhelmingly out there, andthat is we want to see people
held accountable.
Whether it's the Epstein list,whether it's Diddy, whether it's
whatever it is, you know theywant to see people held
(55:49):
accountable.
They want to see people heldaccountable.
You know, there's the wholenother topic, which we won't
touch, but the chat rooms at theNSA, right, all of those people
are going to get fired.
There are people within the FBIthat have been identified as
leaking ICE information.
They're going to be heldaccountable.
That's already been put out.
So you know, I know Kristi Noemand Tulsi Gabbard have been,
you know, kind of all over thisstuff and they're going to hold
(56:11):
some folks accountable.
Don't make mom mad, that'swhat's going on.
Yeah, that's what everybodywants right now.
Is they want?
Speaker 2 (56:19):
exactly what we wanted, because there's been no
accountability.
Yeah, so to the answer to the.
You know, the answer to the ageold leftist question of the
right these days is I hopeyou're happy, oh, I'm, I'm
thrilled, I'm thrilled, I amecstatic and I want more, more,
more.
And you know, just, we'll closeout on the perfect example of
(56:39):
how completely out of touch theleftist politicians are.
You know, angry, angry, angryat the right for trying to save
us money.
And this guy is always the one,always talking about fiscal
responsibility.
Look what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (56:56):
I am once again asking for your financial
support.
I don't have to tell anybodythat we're living in dangerous
and unprecedented times.
We are fighting now against theoligarchs Elon Musk and the
others who are essentiallyrunning the government.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, I'll stop right there.
I'm once again asking you formoney.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
The socialist.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, the socialist.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Socialist is asking for more money Now.
Bernie's got three houses.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yes, Bernie's a millionaire.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
I don't see Bernie putting one on the market and
donating to his own cause, right.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Bernie, why are you asking people for money when you
got the money you creep yeah.
So there's.
There's your example of youknow the lunacy, the craziness
and and I say it over and overagain I don't blame them, I
blame the people who keep votingthese people in shame.
On you, yep.
(57:53):
You get what you get, but youknow you also inflict the rest
of us with it.
So how about stop it?
We made it through.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
We made it through.
I mean I think we hadeverything.
I think we had everything, ohmy gosh, we're amazing.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yes, I will toot our own horn and talk about how
amazing we are.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, that was a.
That was a packed episode.
Great topics.
Great job, clay Clay.
I think I've told you thisbefore, but Clay is the master
of picking out our topics.
He makes my life so easy.
I am so grateful because mybrain gets so overwhelmed by how
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many topics there are andthings that we could talk about.
He takes that off my plate, soI thank you.
Great ones, as always.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, Another great listen.
I all I do is just pick, Icherry pick, because keeps
giving us all this gold and wejust work our way through it.
So I just picked the fun onesand the ones that I know that
you want to talk about and thatI think our audience want to
hear about.
So that's what we do every weekand we appreciate everybody
tuning in and, as always for me,keep moving, keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Take care guys.
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know I'm glancing down our listof topics.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I was going to start counting them, and then I was
just reading each one of ourheadlines and I realized that
they all have one very importantthing in common.
Do you have any idea what it is?
They all trigger the left.
They all trigger the left.
Every single one of them sendsthe left into a hysterical
(02:12):
foaming at the mouth frenzy.
Not that you know.
Everything sets them off right.
I mean everything does.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It does and and you know that's kind of the world
we're living in right now andyou know it it that that's where
, because that's what the mediais doing.
I mean, we've been over this amillion times.
You know everything is how thethe and we're going to talk some
, some mainstream media kind ofstuff in the show, but you know
that's it's the dog whistle.
Whatever the mainstream mediais upset about is what, what
(02:40):
gets covered and that's whatsets people into a frenzy.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right and that's what sets people into a frenzy Right
, and of course it's alwaysstarts with that guy's name,
president Trump, and I love youknow I make a point.
You know, I know, over theyears, we, we simplify and we
just say Trump.
You know, Trump, this Trumpthat I especially love these
days, since January 20th.
I love emphasizing PresidentTrump because because I see him
Twitch, you know, every time Isee the eye go.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So I I'm very traditionally.
I will make sure, no matter whoit is, whether I like them or
not, honor the office, honor thetitle.
But that trend started withPresident Bush, second President
Bush, and it was post 9-11, asthe war started to turn.
(03:29):
People weren't necessarily insupport of Iraq.
It wasn't Afghanistan, it wasIraq, and it was notably ABC and
George Snuffleupagus whostarted calling him Bush.
Interesting no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It makes me laugh every time.
Oh okay, so Trump had some bigmeetings I mean, when does he
not have big meetings?
But of course with a littleteeny tiny Macron, and of course
with Putin too, and bigmeetings those were big.
Macron came to him.
So that was.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, it's not a surprise, but that was a last
week, I think Friday or Saturday.
Yeah, he just called him andsaid, hey, I need you to come to
Washington.
And Macron picked up and came,because that's what happens now.
You know they respond.
And so he came to talk aboutEurope and Russia, ukraine, and
(04:44):
you know I'm not saying thatMacron speaks for all of Europe,
the EU, but you know there'sbeen a flip in Germany.
They had their elections lastweek and they went conservative,
you know.
And so I think Macron isprobably the loudest and longest
standing voice to come andspeak to President Trump.
(05:05):
They did their little handshakething, you know where they yes,
their little game yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Which is always entertaining it is.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Also and you were talking about this earlier the
media.
Did you see what they keyed inon from that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I didn't, I didn't, I missed it.
What did they key in on?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So, president Trump and this is the second time that
they brought this up, I justsaw this today so he has a
bruise on the back of his righthand and everybody was like, oh,
his health and oh all, and so,um, he, he said it then and I
think the last time they talkedabout this was a few months ago,
was during the campaign.
Um, and then they said it againuh, it's from shaking hands,
because he shakes hands withhundreds of people every single
day and it's always that.
(05:49):
You know, it's the hand, it'sthe handshake, but the grip, you
know it's yes, shake, and it'sa double handed yeah.
And it just, it bruises the backof his hand.
But that's what.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's what the media keyed in on, not that he's you,
you know, negotiating peacearound the world, never mind
that, don't worry about that.
If it didn't make me laugh, itwould make me crazy, right?
So you got to pick one or theother, so we'll let them be
crazy, we'll just shake our headand laugh.
But yeah, so they met.
(06:19):
Of course, talk about theconflict in ukraine, uh, making
all that kind of stuff, and youknow, of course they have
different perspectives on it.
Macron, you know, he stated hisopinions on it and Trump, and
the Trump administration isbeing pretty firm on, you know,
moving towards, and I think PeteHegseth made some really great
(06:39):
statements about that.
You know about where theirfocus is and not, you know,
because they want to place theblame.
You know, they want to makesure that they get it out there,
right, that Russia started it,russia did it, russia invaded
Russia, russia and I think itwas Hexeth who basically said
listen, we're not, we're notgonna, we're not gonna go there.
We're working on peace.
You know, we're working onresolution.
Not creating more conflict andplaying that game, doing that
(07:01):
tit for tat and back and forth,is not going to bring anybody
closer to some peacefulresolution here.
So, you know, talk about beingdiplomatic and working with
these other countries, but ofcourse, if you're on the left,
that's bad.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, president Trump , this is one of the things that
he kept saying during hiscandidacy, during the campaign,
was that, you know, people keptpressing him about Israel,
palestine.
They kept pressing him aboutRussia, ukraine, and he kept
saying the same thing.
His response was very blunt,but it was always very
consistent and that was I wantthe killing to stop.
That's what he kept saying andthat's what he's doing, and I,
(07:37):
you know, I wrote a blog aboutthis today and the problem is is
that he doesn't care who wins.
You know who gets the credit,or you said it it's, you know,
to make make sure everybodyknows, russia started it.
Nobody cares, nobody cares, um,and because the ending the
killing is the goal, that's thegoal, and that should be.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Nobody with that in mind cares Like nobody.
Whose goal is to put an end toit cares Only.
The only people who care arethe ones that want to keep the
conflict going.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's right.
That's right.
It's the war hawks that wantthis and, truthfully, most of
those people have never seen war, they don't know war, they
don't understand war and,truthfully, they have nothing at
stake except their principlesand that's it.
So unless you're willing togive you, your son, your
daughter, anybody else to gofight the war, then really your
(08:26):
principles stand on nothing.
I hate to say it.
If you're not willing to, youknow, put in that, sacrifice
yourself, then your opinion tome matters very, very little,
especially if you've never beenthere yourself.
So it is.
It's the war hawks out there.
And the Israel-Palestineconflict Israel-Hamas I'm not
saying Palestine, israel-hamasconflict is the same thing.
You know, I know, and youprobably do too, some Jewish
(08:50):
Americans who either went backto Israel, put on their IDF
uniform or they were in Israeland said I could leave and
decided not to, and they stayed.
But the American Jewishcommunity has a vested interest
in this personally.
They have family members thatare involved or have gone on.
You know of their own accord.
But the American Jewishcommunity has a vested interest
in this personally.
They have family members thatare involved or have gone on.
(09:10):
You know of their own accord.
Them I voice your opinion allyou want, because you're in the
middle of it, you know more sothan most.
But all these universitystudents free Palestine and all
this other crap shut up.
They're just war hawking withno relevant experience and no
relevant perspective.
Right, but that's whatPresident Trump's trying to stop
is the killing.
He doesn't care about winnersand losers, he just wants the
(09:31):
dying to stop, and that's whatwe should all be hoping for.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I mean who, you know it's.
It's baffling, isn't it, clay?
It's like who in your, who intheir right mind would, would be
against that would have aproblem with that and look for a
problem with that.
It's beyond comprehension.
And again, the test for that,the test for the truth of that
statement, is when you turn itaround and say, okay, if it were
(09:57):
Biden doing the exact samething, what would your response
be?
What would your reaction be?
And of course, they're notgoing to be honest, you know,
because that's not part of thegame.
But the honest response wherethey to give it would be oh well
, then that would be fine.
Well, that would be great, we'dbe all for it.
It's always going to be aboutwho is the one right, and if
(10:19):
it's Trump, you know what theirreaction is going to be.
It's just it's so predictable,like it's it's hard to.
You know, it's always made meso angry in the past, leading up
to very and it still makes meangry to a degree, but just so
much less because it's sopredictable.
It's so predictable Like, giveme a break, you know, we already
know what your reaction isgoing to be, and I think that's
(10:39):
the Trump administrationattitude also like cry you know,
favorite, our new favorite cryharder, you know, cry harder.
Unless you unless you, can, youknow, legally stop us, which of
course they're they're tryingto do then we're just going to
keep plowing forward, right, andspeaking of, that was the most
excuse I want.
I want props.
That was a brilliant segue thatwas your.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That was probably your best one ever it was.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was accidental.
Can everybody just pat me onthe back?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I ruined it by doing that, but whatever, it's okay.
No, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No, but you're right.
So that's the recourse now isappointed not elected, but
appointed judges at lower courtlevels are the ones who are
stepping in, are the ones whoare stepping in.
They're not necessarilyinterpreting the law, but
they're activists, in most cases, that believe they're doing the
(11:30):
right thing and they'restepping in and they're, you
know, filing.
You know they're eitheropposing, you know, putting a
stop to whatever it is thatPresident Trump is doing, and
then they're forcing an appealprocess and they're just
delaying the inevitable.
But they're putting a strain,an unnecessary strain, on our on
the judicial system, becausethey're generating more work
(11:53):
unnecessarily.
Now, I don't necessarily agreewith the reaction that's coming
out of Congress, which isthere's a lot of Congress people
who are looking for impeachmentprocesses for some of these
lower court judges If they areacting within the law.
I don't whether you agree withthe process or not.
(12:14):
Fix the process, but I don'tagree with you.
Know he's acting legally, he'sacting within the process, he's
not doing anything illegal orshe for that matter but we don't
agree with what they're doingor how they're doing it, so
we're going to start impeachmentprocess.
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Right, yeah, that's, that's fair.
I mean, you know me well enoughto know that I'll jump right on
that and impeach them, impeachthem all, get rid of them.
But, yes, if you know if I putmy big girl pants on, uh, I can
acknowledge that.
Yes, if what they are doing iswithin the scope of their legal
abilities, then yes, I feel likeyou know there should be
(12:54):
something.
I mean, I think they all getinvestigated, no matter what, if
not by, you know, congress orwhoever, certainly by the, you
know social media, the people onthe internet, right?
Because within a hot minute,you know exactly who their
affiliations are, who their wifeworks for and where their
donations come from.
And and you know, you know allof the things very quickly,
(13:16):
which, of course, casts somedoubt on their well, casts a lot
of doubt on their ethicabilities.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
There You're 100% right, because what happens is,
as soon as you have one of thesejudges, even if they're acting
within the limits of the law, assoon as they do something like
this, the spotlight's on themand the internet's going to do
what the internet does rightEverybody sleuths, they
investigate, they dig in.
And then you better hope, ifyou're one of these judges, that
(13:48):
you are squeaky clean to 100%,because if not, it's going to be
found out.
Whatever it is that you've donewrong is going to be found out.
And then that's when you starthaving legitimate questions and
you start potentially evenhaving legitimate impeachment
processes not necessarily forwhat they have done to, you know
, kind of slow down presidentTrump's uh, you know inertia
(14:10):
that he's got moving, but youknow it'll, it'll be something
in their past.
It'll be.
You know, hey, this, thisseries of decisions are all
suspect, like that's somethingthat somebody needs to look into
or, like you said, donations orwhatever it is.
Everything's going to getchecked out and you better hope
you're clean.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, there's one, you know whose wife and I
forget who it is.
Might be the Rhode Island guy,I'm not sure but, oh, judge, I
should say it was that the wifewas either worked for US AID or
Right, yeah, so you know, I meanit, you know, at the very least
it raises eyebrows and I and Ithink you know very consistently
(14:48):
with the public what ishappening now is that sense of
frustration.
Obviously, but almost you kindof get to this point and I see
this on social media,particularly on apps like this
almost like apathy starts to setin.
They're like, yeah, whatever,yeah, we know, but nothing ever
happens.
You know, and I find itinteresting how quickly people
(15:14):
can turn and we know this well,of course, that they turn on a
dime.
But even people within theRepublican party or
conservatives, you know,whatever, however you want to
label yourself, the Republicanparty or conservatives, you know
whatever, however you want tolabel yourself I see it on X
it's like people who have beenhighly, highly supportive, like
have the word MAGA in theirusername or in their their name,
(15:34):
and who are now, you know,making like little swipes and
say like, well, this isn'thappening fast enough, thought
you said you're going to do this, but, dude, he's been in for
like five weeks.
You were just like three postsago talking about how much
they've accomplished in shortorder.
You know, and they're gettingmad.
I see people getting all tickedoff that.
You know Pam Bondi and uh,kristi Noem and Heg Seth and you
(15:57):
know all of them, um, aregetting a lot of airtime on lots
of different media programs.
You know they're, they're on,they're on Fox doing a sit down
there on this one doing a sitdown.
You know, and and people arelike, well, you should be doing
your job and not doing all theseinterviews.
It's not a.
It's not a.
You know a popularity tour orwhatever.
You know whatever they'recalling.
It's like how do you want themto get this information to us?
(16:18):
Yeah, how much do you wantCarolineavitt to do?
Like, do you want her just tostand behind the podium 24 hours
a day and tell you everything?
I mean?
What do you want people Calmdown.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You know that's interesting.
So we're obviously we're all aproduct of our environment.
And going back to, you know,headline News is the one who
really, really, you know, kindof turned the table on this.
They were the one that was the24-hour news source, right and
it was in, you know, kind ofturned the table on this.
They were the one that was the24 hour news source right and it
was in, you know, 30 minutebites or 10 minute bites.
They were the one who really, Ihate to say, crush the American
attention span.
(16:52):
But that's all where it started.
So you had CNN, which was 24hour news, and then they brought
in headline news and it was,you know, was the cycle, and it
was the ticker at the bottom.
And you had, you know, youactually, at one point I think,
they had a news ticker, a sportsticker and a financial ticker
all running at the same time.
But you know, people, that'swhat they expect now, everybody
expects 24 hour news.
(17:12):
They expect, you know.
Do you think that there willcome a day where we will have
like two or three presssecretaries that run shifts?
You know what I mean, likepress briefings a day?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I tell you it wouldn't surprise me in the
least.
It wouldn't surprise me becauseyou know people.
I mean everything you just said.
I don't even have to reiterateeverything you just said.
I mean everything you just said.
I don't even have to reiterateeverything you just said.
Everything you just said is soaccurate and such a great
(17:50):
depiction of where we're at,where our brains are.
At that short attention span,that need for a constant it's
like that dopamine hit.
You know, of news, negativenews, whatever the news is
mostly negative, combative stuff.
You know it's it's the dopaminehit that people get from that
over and over again.
And of course, they know thatthey've studied this and this is
why you have 24 hour news andit's really just a repeat of the
same things over and over andover again.
(18:11):
You know there's nothingdramatically new, it's just the
constant repeat.
But people get that in in theirbrains and they can't function
without.
You know, I don't know, knowingwhat the president Trump had
for lunch today, it's like crazy, crazy, crazy and very, very
mentally unhealthy.
And I know, I know a few peoplewho have that running in the
(18:34):
background of their livesconstantly, like the news is
always on, always on.
It's like dude.
Like the news is always on,always on.
It's like dude, go outsidetouch grass and listen.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
you know you and I do this once a week.
I know you do prep.
I know I do prep.
You know I blog a couple oftimes a week.
You're constantly doingpolitical commentary stuff.
Right, this is what you and Ido and this is not my life Like.
You have to take a break fromthis stuff for your own mental
well-being.
But the networks I'm going tobest you on your transition.
(19:04):
The networks are reacting toratings.
And when the ratings suck whenthe ratings suck, there are
repercussions, right.
So Joy Reid for those of youthat aren't tracking and I think
everybody's tracking Joy Reidgot fired from MSNBC because why
Her ratings suck.
And why do her ratings suck?
Because all she does is bashPresident Trump and the
(19:27):
Republican, conservative side ofthings which crushed the
election.
Like, if you don't change yourprogramming, no one's gonna
watch it, and she didn't.
And now she's out of a job.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Out of a job.
And what does she do?
She cries about it.
And she didn't.
And now she's out of a job.
Out of a job.
And what does she do?
She cries about it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
That, um that what I was doing had value.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Had value.
Yeah, if it had value, peoplewould watch it.
Right, people are not watchingit.
Did you see Rachel Maddow?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yes.
Yes On the same, I don't youknow, just in case somebody
doesn't know.
On the same network, samenetwork.
Yep and she came out in supportof her friend Joy she did.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, she came out and she, she, you know,
basically told MSNBC that theywere making a huge mistake, uh,
that she respected nobody moreand, you know, cared about
nobody more in the business thanJoy Reid.
And you know she said the samething of value, like Joy Reid
was of value.
She also, you know, played theguilty white person race card
and said, you know the fact thatthey kept her and Jen Psaki is
(20:34):
the only.
You know two people, you knowtwo hosts you know, on a solo
show and they both happen to bewhite.
You know it was a mistake.
Whatever the news networks arefiguring out again that this is
a business and if the ratingsdon't support it, you're done.
Listen, I've said this beforeGutfeld is, to me, is not a
(20:57):
great show.
People love it.
It's the highest rated show.
It beats the, you know, itbeats um, um, all the nightly
entertainment post news, youknow, um shows all all.
It's number one in the ratingsand it stays on.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm going to.
I'm going to tell you, and andeveryone watching and listening,
something that might beshocking.
I've never watched a single oneof these shows.
I have never watched.
I can't even name for you onenew show that I have watched for
more than a clip, you know anecessary clip, and it kind of
(21:35):
goes back to what we were sayingbefore about.
You know, this is this is whatwe do for a living, this is this
is our job, this is what we do,um, but we also have a life and
I don't want to be sucked intothe vortex of this negativity.
Uh, you know, like I wastelling you, the person that I
know that watches it, has it inthe background 24, seven.
Um, I'm not that person.
(21:55):
I, I take as much, I consume asmuch as I need to to be able to
talk about the things that Ineed to talk about and know the
things that I need to know, andthat's it.
I couldn't.
You know, I go on X and all ofthese.
Um, you know people who, whoare apparently a big deal in our
field.
I don't know who they are, noidea, no clue whatsoever, and I
(22:18):
make no apologies for it?
I am idea no clue whatsoeverand I make no apologies for it.
I am.
I am actually gleefully sayingthat because it's it's.
I live a very peaceful, happylife and I'm not going to trade
that for anything you know, yeah, I do a little more interacting
than you do.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I know that you on on your, you know, on your social
media is you, you know yourinteraction is is pretty low and
good for you for controllingthat.
I do, you know, interact withfolks.
You know, when I blog and I getsome negative reactions and
some of them are pretty visceraland okay and I'll interact,
I'll do a little bit of back andforth, but when I'm done with
you I just stop, I stop.
(22:52):
You know, and you know I've hadpeople come back and be like oh
, you don't have anything elseto say.
Oh, clearly, you know I'm right, no, it's because I'm tired of
listening to you.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm just done with you.
Yeah, I just actually have alife and I and you don't matter.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You are not as relevant to me as you think you
are.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not sittinghere entertaining discussions
with you know, six or 700 peopleat a time.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like I'm out, like I gotta take the trash out, I
gotta go, like you know, like Ihave a life, yeah, yeah, I've
got, I've.
You know, I've had people get,you know, make kind of angry
comments like, oh, she doesn'ttalk to anybody, she doesn't
respond to any comments, which Ido.
Actually, I respond to, um, I,you know, anywhere from 10 to 20
comments.
I mean that's like I don't know, if I had to give an average,
(23:40):
that would be my average perpost.
You know, that's what I aim for.
I try to engage.
There are definitely postswhere I don't, but you know, I
don't know what to tell you.
I have, uh, I don't know, I havelike five platforms that I post
to daily, multiple times a day,and they have and I'm so
blessed and humbled and gratefulthat they have high engagement
and people are commenting andarguing with each other in there
and all of that.
Um, I can't.
There will be no time to makecontent if that's all I'm doing.
(24:03):
I can't do it.
And I need to protect my mentalhealth too because, like you
said, people you know love tocome in with a negative comments
and say some pretty hostile,non-nice things, and it's fine,
it doesn't hurt my feelings, itactually helps me, because any
engagement in a post is positiveas far as the algorithm is
concerned.
You know what I mean.
So I'm like, you know, commentaway, tell me how much you hate
(24:24):
me, whatever, but I'm not goingto engage with you.
You know I don't have any needor desire to do that, but but
yeah, I just took us so far offthe path?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
No, not at all.
But, like you know, Lester Holtsaw the writing on the wall.
He knew because of who he isand you know he's a Chicago guy.
I mean, I grew up with LesterHolt on the news and he has
walked away from NBC, resigned,because he knew that he can't
and won't change.
(24:52):
You know his approach to thingsand his ratings are terrible
and, truthfully, he was probablygoing to get fired anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So um, yeah, good on him, smart on him.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'll even say I'll even say I'll give credit to, uh
, rachel Maddow, for you know Idon't like her or agree with her
, any of those things but I giveher lots of credit for for
standing up for what shebelieved there and who she
believed in and, um, you know,putting herself potentially at
risk.
Um, I give her credit for that.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Especially if you look.
So you know I think it wasabout five years ago.
She signed that massive,massive contract Maybe it wasn't
even that long ago and then shewas on for about a year and
then she took like a whole yearhiatus in her contract and they
had all these guest hosts whichdidn't work out well, and now
her show is down to one day aweek.
She was a five day a week show.
(25:39):
She's down to one day a weekand so, truthfully, she's not
safe either, right?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, I don't think she is at all, and maybe she knows
that too and didn't care.
So she's like I'm already.
I know I'm next on the choppingblock, so what do I care?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, there's a lot of that going around over there
and again abysmal and it's abusiness.
So if you don't get on boardand you don't make yourself
palatable, you don't even haveto have an appeal.
But if you're not evenpalatable by 60% of the viewing
audience, you're done Likethere's too much out there.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But even you know and I and I say this a little
cheeky, cheekily because youknow, I know people are going to
come in and say there's no suchthing as this.
But I think even the moderateleft, the people who maybe
wouldn't identify themselves asbeing on the left, maybe just
simply liberal, they even can'ttake that constant high level
(26:31):
anger and hostility andnegativity, because that is all
it is.
It's just such a constantbarrage of hate and anger and I
think even they're like you knowwhat?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I just I can't, I gotta go touch grass you know,
and so you can see it in thereaction to politicians and
we'll do another, anothertransition, right, right.
Wisconsin is prime example.
You and I have talked aboutthis, and it's not just us folks
, listen.
You know.
There have been a number ofpeople, high level people in the
(27:06):
Democrat party, who have saidwe have got to change what we're
doing, otherwise we're going tokeep losing.
Right, right and but.
But they don't.
And so you've got like a primeexample.
That was the governor ofWisconsin has decided that they
are going to remove the wordmother from all legal
documentation within the state.
And what is it?
(27:27):
Inseminated person.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, exactly, I've got a graphic.
I think we can keep talkingwhile we got the graphic up here
.
So these are the proposed wordchanges, name changes, what we
have there, of course, theartificially or now the
inseminated person instead ofmother.
That would.
That would make a really cuteMother's Day card Right, happy
inseminated person's day.
(27:50):
Inseminated person.
Thanks for getting inseminated,I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You know Hallmark, hallmark is jumping on that.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You know they are you know they are, they have to.
Yeah, so you know, again, againtrying to erase any bit of
common sense or tradition or anysense of normalcy and then to
double down I mean I think youknow kind of double down on it
Like, well, no, yeah, this is,you know, this is the way we're
going.
Well, no, yeah, this is youknow, this is the way we're
(28:20):
going, this is what we're doing.
And, of course, there's quite afew other liberal states,
liberal governors that you knoware doing the same type of
doubling down on all of thisstuff and it's like good do it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
So Gretchen Whitmer is one.
So that, just if you saw it ornot, so you know, the Supreme
Court, you know of the UnitedStates, the SCOTUS, has said you
know, gay marriage is legal,blah, blah, blah.
Right, we're not going to standin the way of, you know, gay
couples and their pursuit ofhappiness.
(28:50):
Ok, fine, right now, the stateof Michigan and and their
legislature are forwarding abill where they say, in the
state of Michigan, no, right, sothe voters right, this is, the
voters are saying this Um, andand they're, they're expecting
the bill to pass.
Um, and the governor, gretchenWhitmer, has said absolutely not
(29:14):
, I don't care what the voterssay.
Wow, and I'm trying to figureout when, somewhere along the
way, our elected officials arenow ignoring the will of the
people, the will of the peoplethat put them in office.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's just wild, they don't care.
And they're just, they're just,they don't care, they don't
care, they're just throwing itright out there in the open.
They want to be, you know, minidictators in their states.
And, and you know, I don'tblame them, because they've
gotten away with that for awhile.
They've gotten away with it.
So you know, now they actuallybelieve I think they sincerely
(29:51):
believe that this is whatthey're entitled to do.
And you know it is theresponsibility of the voters to
make their voices heard and sayno.
And you know it is theresponsibility of the voters to
make their voices heard and sayno.
And you know people, the leftgets all up in arms about all of
this stuff.
But you know, really, this is,this is what you want.
You want your states, meaningthe people, to have the control
(30:14):
of what happens in their state.
That is the way it is intended,it was intended to be.
That is the way it is intended,it was intended to be.
So, whatever it is that youwant, whether it's gay marriage
or the right to marry yeah, Idon't know Whatever Gay marriage
or, whatever the case is,Abortion, whatever the case is,
whatever your opinion or feelingis, go make it known by your
(30:36):
vote.
I mean, that's the way it goesand of course you know people
like Gretchen uh, gretchen needto be um, just kicked out of
there.
I was going to swear, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Listen, I veto power, I get, okay, the president's
got veto power, Governors haveveto power, Right, and there
that's.
That's all part of checks andbalances within the system.
Um and okay, fine.
But when you've got a governorwho has made it very clear that,
no matter what right Because inthe checks and balances you
(31:07):
have a veto you have a way tooverride a veto she's made it
pretty clear that even if shevetoes and then her veto is
overridden, she's going to donothing.
She's going to oppose this inevery way possible, probably up
to and including obstructing thelaw because of her personal
beliefs versus what the state,you know, citizenry, you know is
(31:28):
asking for.
So I don't get this.
I think we've lost.
Like you said, there's a senseof entitlement for a lot of
these folks.
We're seeing it in judges.
A sense of entitlement for alot of these folks.
We're seeing it in judges.
Right, there's appointed judgeswe talked about earlier.
You know the sense of like well, I can do this, I can.
You know, it doesn't matterwhat is good for the country or
it doesn't matter what, you know, the constituency says.
(31:49):
I'm going to do what I believeis right, and we saw that
through COVID.
You know the governors who had,you know, the best interest of
their people at heart.
Kristi Noem is a prime example.
They shut down nothing in SouthDakota, literally not a thing.
And then you have the opposite.
And you have New York, right,and we've got there is a whole
(32:11):
bunch of dead people based onbad decisions by governors,
right, and California, right, wehave bad decisions by that
governor on a daily basis, butthey've lost the bubble on who
they work for.
Yes, and that is the problem.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, and you know, and what it'll come down to I
guess really is is shame on thevoters, shame on the people If
you don't make a big stink aboutthis and get them out.
I mean, to me it's criminal,you know, I don't know if I'm
right or not.
If it's criminal, it certainlysounds criminal to me.
You're, you're, you know,essentially ignoring the process
(32:47):
of what we're founded on, youknow.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But yeah, there's a.
There's a bit of a loss ofdecorum by our elected officials
another transition.
Loss of decorum by our electedofficials Another transition.
So you know, dan Crenshaw justthe other day got caught on a
hot mic and he can defend thisall he wants, but he's one of
(33:17):
three recently that you knowhave have lost decorum.
He was a little bit he was ahot mic, so he wasn't
necessarily publicly, but youknow he threatened to kill
Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
In a response to a question in an interview.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Right, we've got it.
We've got it, we can play it.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Play it.
Have you ever met Tucker?
We've talked a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I haven't met him.
He's the worst person have youever met?
Tucker.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So I did purposely play it twice.
So his, his part is very quietbecause he's not miked at the
moment.
Yeah, but I've watched itmultiple times and you know I of
course there's people say, oh,it's AI, it's not everything is
AI.
Everybody calm down.
It's not with the AI.
No, I mean that you know itsounded pretty clear.
(34:09):
And then he kind of goes alittle further with it, further
with it, you know, saying he'sthe worst person in the world.
And then Tucker, you know yougot to love Tucker.
Whether you like Tucker or not,I like his, I like his response
.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
He was like you want my address?
Here's my address.
Come on over.
It's a bad teenage movie.
It's the bully, you know,football player kind of guy, you
know picking on the smart kidfirst, first telling the truth,
right, and that's really what itboils down to Listen,
crenshaw's a Rhino, uh, straightup.
Um, you know, I was I, and he'sreally shown his colors in the
last nine months.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
He's got a history of losing his cool, saying crazy
aggressive stuff.
Know, I mean he doesn't have,he does not have good
self-control.
That's probably the nicestthing I can come up with to you
know, to say about him right now.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean and he, he does, you know, he, he uses his,
he uses his past service.
Right, you know, I, I know,listen.
Everybody knows he was a navyseal.
Everybody knows he lost his eyein combat.
That doesn't give him an excuseto act like an asshole, sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No it doesn't Listen.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I got, I got my.
I got my own time.
I got both my eyes, but I gotmy own time.
I got plenty of time in combat,um, and that doesn't give you
the right to act like an asshole.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And I'll tell you right, he does hide behind that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
He uses that as a you know he, he tries, he uses we
refer to it as the vet passright, like.
You can act however you want,but oh, I'm a veteran and
nobody's allowed to touch you.
Well, I'll say it veteran toveteran, you know he's out of
line.
It's unprofessional, truthfully, not only as an elected
official, but oh, by the way,dan, go back to when you were a
(35:47):
Navy officer, unprofessional inpublic to act like that.
You can't hide behind the factthat you're a Navy SEAL.
Sorry, pal.
And oh, by the way, if you wantto pick on somebody, pick on
somebody your own size.
Come after somebody who's got alittle bit more to them than
Tucker, right?
I mean, if you really want tobe a badass, there's plenty of
people out there that will stepup and go toe to toe with you.
(36:08):
I guarantee it.
So stop being a bully and be agrownup.
But he's not the only one, andthat's the problem.
I saw an interview with JonStewart and AOC the other day,
right, oh, that one.
So it was a great interviewbecause she essentially admitted
that there's insider tradinggoing on inside of Congress.
She said it and you know heapplauded her for doing it
(36:29):
because she was honest about it.
Yeah, and you know he applaudedher for doing it because she
was honest about it, yeah, butalso in the conversation she
forgets that she's an electedofficial and or maybe she
doesn't care, but she cursesinside of the interview more
than once and it's like wherewhere did the decorum go?
I know she's trying to be cooland she's trying to be this and
she's trying to be that, butwe're like she's in an interview
(36:53):
that is going to be all overthe Internet and she can't
maintain that level ofprofessionalism that we expect
out of our elected officials.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, you know, this is a.
This is a pattern.
This is.
This is widespread, you know.
You look at Fetterman and his.
You know shorts and hoodie allthe time.
You look at what's her nameJasmine Crockett Is that her
name?
Yeah, dropping F-bombs.
What do you think of?
Who is Elon?
What would you say to Elon?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Right and just you know in public at a podium, like
in front of a microphone, likeat a rally.
You know, elon Musk like yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
So are you kidding me right now?
Yeah, oh yeah, it's.
It is appalling and I hope Iwould like to see you know,
obviously, of that.
(37:53):
You know to say from this pointforward, you will, you know,
conduct yourself in a way thatis representative of your
station, of who you are and whatyou are.
You're representing thiscountry.
You know there's not a worldstage.
This isn't your backyard.
You know you're not sitting inyour house or at some bar
talking it up with your friends.
(38:13):
You are a representative of theUnited States of America.
Fricking, act like one.
I could swear if I want to, andI try not to.
Even you should not be swearing.
You should be dressedappropriately.
You should act appropriately.
You should have some kind ofcode of conduct.
I know there is.
There is a code of conduct.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
While they are in chambers.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
There is a code of conduct, while while they are in
chambers.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's the problem.
That is the problem, you'reright.
Rules of decorum insidechambers.
So there are certain things youcan say and not say, and
processes and procedures, butonce they step out, they.
It used to be that politicians,for the most part in public,
would honor the professionalismand the rules of decorum.
Right, listen, lbj Lyndon,baines Johnson was a notorious
foul mouth, notorious, but hedid it in private.
(38:57):
Right, he did it behind closeddoors.
And there are, listen, ourpoliticians are not, and never
have been, innocent.
However, there is an appearancethat needs to be maintained.
Right, for the American people.
And oh, by the way, now morethan ever, because the entirety
of the world sees everythingthat we're doing.
Right, they're not reading itin newspaper, they're not, you
(39:19):
know, watching an edited clip onTV.
They're getting it live,they're getting it on the
internet.
So, if you can't representyourself or your nation that way
, you probably need tore-examine what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, oh, there needs to be a lot of firings.
I think I would like to see alot of people, either whether
it's impeached or fired or Idon't know reprimanded at the
very least for not respectingthe role, not respecting the
position, certainly for notrespecting the president of the
United States.
(39:50):
You know, I mean all of thosethings we just want to say.
I think you know I don't tryand speak for other people often
, but I think I can when I saywe just want to see that
accountability, we just want tosee, you know, the, the simple
common sense, uh, respectability, all of those natural, normal
things that we shouldn't evenhave to be mentioning because
(40:11):
they're so matter of course butyet here we are.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I think we all want to see that.
Yeah, I think my opinion isthat the party leadership should
be the ones taking the lead onthis.
Johnson Speaker Johnson shouldbe calling Dan Crenshaw into his
office today.
Come on in, close the door,right, right, and then read him
the riot act, right, period,yeah, and, and that should, and
that should be the end of it,like crenshaw should be on his
(40:41):
best behavior for the rest ofthe time he's in office, which I
have a sinking feeling is notgoing to be that long.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
So, by the way, I find that whole Crenshaw thing
disappointing.
I really, initially, in thebeginning, I really liked him.
I liked him so much.
I thought he was going to be areally big deal for the party
and for the country really andwow, was I wrong.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's a shame, what a shame.
So, yeah, I would hope thatthose level of party leaders
would, but they won't.
I don't know if Johnson will ornot, but I know that nobody on
the Democratic side is going tocall AOC and go hey, clean up
your mouth, because she's goingto tell them no and she's going
to do whatever she wants.
So if there aren't anyrepercussions, then it doesn't
(41:29):
really matter.
Well, you?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
know, you've got, you've got.
We're talking about a countrywhere you have federal workers
who are mad and refusing to tellessentially their boss, which
is the president, five thingsthat they did at work.
Today, like you can't even getfederal workers to do that
willingly, so forget trying toget any of the higher up ones to
(41:53):
do anything that they'resupposed to do.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah we weren't going to talk about Doge, but there's
a pretty visceral response tothat whole thing.
I wrote a blog on it on Mondayand you know DOD's response.
Secretary Exif was like listen,we're not doing that.
And the reason he said that isbecause DOD does it anyway, like
every unit and every suborganization underneath
Department of Defense sends up aweekly sit rep, a situation
(42:16):
report.
They send it up every week andit's built from the bottom all
the way up and it goes into thepeople that it needs to go into.
So he just looked at it and hesaid we're not doing that.
There's a couple of otherdepartments within the
government that said the samething.
We're not doing that.
We don't work for OPM and Elonhas no influence over what we're
doing.
We're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
And okay, fine If you're already doing something
like that if you're doing whatyou're supposed to be doing,
then it's all good.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
But there's, there's so many people that have, you
know, just overreacted to thisthing.
I the blog I wrote about waslike this is, like, you know,
office space, then the TPSreport.
You know, it's the samereaction and it's, it's crazy.
If you can't take and Elon saidit himself five minutes, five
bullets, that's it, that's allit takes, you know, and the
(43:02):
smart person will figure out,especially if they have a
repetitive job, they will writethe same five things down and
they will submit the same fivethings every week.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Right, that's all.
It's not that hard.
It's not that hard people.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Of course, you are the postmaster general.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Oh, that guy.
Oh, my goodness.
So this is all right.
So it's, it's part comical.
I couldn't help but laugh.
I made a skit about it becauseit just the lunacy of it.
So so let's, let's just showthis, let's just show um, our,
our postmaster general.
(43:38):
So here's here's first, just uh, I think this is the picture,
let's see.
So here he is covering his earsbecause he does not want to
hear the questioning.
And here, here's what happened.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
You, were graded by the United States people and
they don't use your serviceanymore.
You bankrupt that is not true.
You bankrupt this through yourreputation, only Through your
reputation.
You are responsible for thefall of the Postal Service and
the lack of accountability.
Congress is responsible for thefall of the Postal Service.
I am trying to fix the PostalService On your watch with all
the AI.
(44:09):
Before my watch, the same stuffhappened With all the AI, with
all the computer systems.
You're worse than if I took ahorse and picked up the mail and
delivered it two miles down theroad.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So yeah, so there's that.
So now, mind you, this guy'sbeen on the job for quite a
while, so he's saying he'strying to fix it.
You know, since he's been therehe's been trying to fix it.
Well, last year they reported$9.5 billion, with a B in net
losses for 2024.
So that includes pensioncontributions for its retirees
(44:40):
and workers' compensation claimsfor employees injured on the
job.
You've got an 80% decrease involume of outgoing mail, but he
added 190,000 employees.
Make it make sense, right, makeit make sense.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
So it's.
You know, everybody knows, withemail, right Email covers,
that's where the 80% decrease inoutgoing mail comes from.
Email, electronic bill paytechnology is doing the work of
the postal service right.
The problem is is that we arereaching that point of the peak
of employment which was in the70s and into the 80s, right Of
(45:21):
the postal service and now thosefolks who were hired back then.
For those that don't know, ifyou work at the postal service
there is no use or lose vacationor sick time.
So if you don't use yourvacation it continues to accrue
for your entire career.
I know of multiple peoplepersonally who worked 35, 40
(45:42):
years at the post office.
You know, said I'm retiring andthey had 12 or 13 months of
paid vacation or sick time thatthey just didn't work, they took
it all at the end.
They stayed fully paid for 12to 13 months before they took
their pension.
So somebody's got to do thatjob right.
(46:04):
And so you know.
Now you've got you know, and Idon't know what the percentage
is, but any good organizationhas an overage to cover for
vacations, to cover for sick, tocover for right.
So say it's a 10%.
Now you're incurring that loadof personnel for a year, and
this is not uncommon folks, soyou know, any business that
(46:26):
loses $9.5 billion in a year isout of business.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, out of business .
You're done.
You're done and you're out of ajob if you're the guy or woman
who's supposed to be in chargeof making that operation run
efficiently and well.
I mean, this is probably one ofthe greatest examples of
horrific, uncheckedmismanagement, poor management,
zero management, and then youknow the arrogance and the
(46:53):
audacity to cover your ears,Cause are you kidding me?
What a child.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Right, I mean, that was that was.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That was actually kind of shocking, like I can't
believe that I am witnessing agrown man covering his ears
Cause he doesn't want to hear.
It's just crazy to me Again,you see, this is why, if I think
to laugh about this, if I don'tlaugh, it's going to make me
crazy Clay.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, and you said it .
It's horrible management, it'sthe worst kind of leadership.
But at the same time, these arethe things that the general
public doesn't know about, right, and they look at and when they
find out they're appalled.
But at the same time, you aregoing to have because they're
(47:41):
going to start closing downthings in the post office,
you're going to see post officesclose.
You're going to see postalcarriers that are going to get
you know, let go get fired Likethey're going to shrink the post
office as a result of this, andyou are going to have all kinds
of people that are going to bescreaming and yelling that we
need the post office.
We can't shrink the post office.
You know, I know people who arepostal carriers.
What are they supposed to dofor a job?
(48:02):
Listen, I hate it for them.
I do, yes, but like.
This is.
The reason why we are trillionsand trillions and trillions of
dollars in debt is because ofstupid crap like this.
This is.
This is inexcusable, but thisis.
This is what the president ranon and this is what he's been
doing for the five weeks he'sbeen in office.
Right?
This isn't even doge, right?
This is just.
(48:22):
This is out in the open how badthis is being run.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, this is.
This is a matter of you know,like you said, president Trump
doing exactly what he said hewas going to do.
He's going to root out all ofthe misappropriations, the
misuse, the fraud, the wastefulspending, all of the things to
make America great again.
Give us our money back, put itback in our pockets, stop
(48:49):
bleeding us dry.
All of the things that hepromised is exactly what he's
doing.
So to act shocked and get madbecause it's happening.
You know, and I agree with you.
Yes, of course, I feel I feelbad for anybody who is facing
the loss of their job.
You know that's terrifying to,especially when you have a
family.
You know all of the things inlife, but you know, just like
(49:09):
you did with the other federalemployees, I'm sure they're
going to get quite a bit ofnotice.
And you know, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know what totell you.
I mean, this is really aboutthe good of the entire country
and if you want to be angry atanyone, be angry at the previous
administrations, and I add an Sto the end of that.
This to happen, to get to thispoint where it has to be so
(49:33):
drastic and so shocking and justlike to gut everything, because
on everybody else's watch, itwas allowed to just keep
snowballing and snowballing, andsnowballing and snowballing.
And here we are.
You know trillions andtrillions and trillions of
dollars in debt.
You know the things thatthey're finding.
It is just shocking, appalling.
So yeah, it is what it is.
(49:54):
But, not as much as a not enoughto want it to stop, that's for
sure.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, you said it, plural administrations.
I keep going back to 1992,right, Cause I think that a lot
of this started with presidentClinton and his administration.
You know and so and, and it'sbeen snowballed since then.
So you know if you've been, nomatter which party you're
supporting, like they're bothguilty.
There is administrations onboth sides of the aisle that are
(50:19):
responsible During the war waspart of it.
I know that you know big, biggov as a concept is the reason
we are where we are now.
So if you've been voting forthat and supporting it, you own
part of this, and I can't saythat enough.
I feel bad for people too.
I'm tired of listening topeople say oh, what about
so-and-so?
(50:39):
My friend, this, Okay, who didyou vote for?
Who have you been voting for?
Have you been voting?
Have you been holding yourelected officials accountable?
No, and it's the apathy thatyou talked about earlier and
that's kind of where we're at.
But now we've got an activeinsurgency inside of our own
government, Right, and asPresident Trump is again
(51:00):
honoring a campaign promise toclean out, you know, illegal
aliens, Now we've got aninsurgency in some of these blue
states and blue cities that areputting our law enforcement at
risk.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is infuriating, absolutely
infuriating.
So you have, let's see, well,of course you have.
You know.
You have cities like Boston andSan Diego who are like
reaffirming their commitment totheir sanctuary policies or like
doubling down on it.
You've got people like AOC whoare, you know, giving out
instructions how to you knowright, to avoid ICE or to not
(51:37):
get detained.
I forget exactly what.
You know, some cases wherethey're they're complying not
nearly enough, but you have,let's see.
You have, let's see.
I'm reading my notes, as youcan tell, let's see, there was
one I wanted to find for you.
Oh, this was the one.
So this is in surprise,surprise.
Los Angeles, oh, yeah, right,you know, actively disrupting
(52:06):
ICE operations by posting flyersthat reveal the names and
personal information of ICEagents, including, you know,
their photos and phone numbers.
So they're doxing them, youknow, and putting them, like you
said, clay, you know, at risk,in risk of harm.
Know, at risk, in risk of harm.
You know, wow is all I can say.
And you know that you've gotthese.
You know idiot politicians thatare fueling this and that are
feeding this information,because where else are they
going to get it?
Really, you know, they call itactivist interference, but you
(52:26):
know a lot of these politiciansthey're.
They're activists disguised aspoliticians.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
It's an insurgency, that's what this?
is.
This is an insurgency andthey're putting our law
enforcement at risk because of adifference of opinion on
whether or not the specific lawsshould be enforced.
Whether you like it or not,folks, if someone is here
illegally, they are a criminal.
Okay, period, over and out.
(52:52):
So our law enforcement aretasked to enforce the law.
President Trump has made this apriority.
He ran on it.
That's what the American publicvoted for.
It's been a mandate and our lawenforcement officers that
everybody defended.
When they raided Mar-a-Lago,everybody defended them.
Now we've got law enforcementagents enforcing the law and
they're getting thrown under thebus and, truthfully, their
(53:13):
lives are being put at riskbecause people disagree with
what they're doing.
This is an insurgency.
Thankfully and I say this withall shock there are cities like
Chicago that are actuallyturning against their
politicians.
So the mayor of Chicago I couldnot believe this the other day
the mayor of Chicago has an andI don't know which is worse an
(53:34):
80% disapproval rating, did you?
say 80% 80, 80% disapprovalrating or only a 7% approval
rating, like I don't know.
I don't know which one ofpublic programs are being cut
that normally go to this.
You know the residents of thecity, but those programs are
(54:00):
being cut to benefit illegalaliens, the sanctuary city,
prospect and all these otherthings.
But so you've got at least onecity out there that said we're
done with this crap, and they'reand they're turning against it.
So kudos to Chicago and theresidents there for for turning
against the mayor, who is donewith this crap, and they're
turning against it.
So kudos to Chicago and theresidents there for turning
against the mayor, who is apiece of trash.
He's got a lot of problems, butthis is one of the big issues.
But everywhere else you said itLos Angeles, san Diego, boston.
(54:24):
That lady's a lunatic, lunatic.
Yes, it's all bad.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Maine.
Different set of circumstances,different case, but just
another example of these, youknow, democrat politicians
believing that they don't haveto follow the laws like crazy
and they don't have to followwhat their voters are telling
them to do.
And you know, they're, they're,they're come up, they're come
(54:49):
up and come up, it's right, yeah, we'll come, it will come, it
will happen.
Well, that was a hard one forme to say.
Yeah, holy cow, it's just, it's, it's wild, it's wild.
And you know, I think againhaving the nerve to speak for
more people.
You know, we expect to see someconsequences for this.
There has to be consequence forthis.
(55:10):
This isn't, you know, witchhunt.
This isn't retribution for what, trump, this is just common
sense.
If you're breaking the law, ifyou're, you know, ignoring the
laws of the land, if you'reignoring your voters, what they
are telling you to do, you'reout, you're gone.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
So you know, and that is a theme right now across
social media, and I think people, there's a little bit of
patience that needs to be, youknow, taken in some of this, but
there's been an overwhelming,that sentiment has been
overwhelmingly out there, andthat is we want to see people
held accountable.
Whether it's the Epstein list,whether it's Diddy, whether it's
whatever it is, you know theywant to see people held
(55:49):
accountable.
They want to see people heldaccountable.
You know, there's the wholenother topic, which we won't
touch, but the chat rooms at theNSA, right, all of those people
are going to get fired.
There are people within the FBIthat have been identified as
leaking ICE information.
They're going to be heldaccountable.
That's already been put out.
So you know, I know Kristi Noemand Tulsi Gabbard have been,
you know, kind of all over thisstuff and they're going to hold
(56:11):
some folks accountable.
Don't make mom mad, that'swhat's going on.
Yeah, that's what everybodywants right now.
Is they want?
Speaker 2 (56:19):
exactly what we wanted, because there's been no
accountability.
Yeah, so to the answer to the.
You know, the answer to the ageold leftist question of the
right these days is I hopeyou're happy, oh, I'm, I'm
thrilled, I'm thrilled, I amecstatic and I want more, more,
more.
And you know, just, we'll closeout on the perfect example of
(56:39):
how completely out of touch theleftist politicians are.
You know, angry, angry, angryat the right for trying to save
us money.
And this guy is always the one,always talking about fiscal
responsibility.
Look what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (56:56):
I am once again asking for your financial
support.
I don't have to tell anybodythat we're living in dangerous
and unprecedented times.
We are fighting now against theoligarchs Elon Musk and the
others who are essentiallyrunning the government.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, I'll stop right there.
I'm once again asking you formoney.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
The socialist.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, the socialist.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Socialist is asking for more money Now.
Bernie's got three houses.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yes, Bernie's a millionaire.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
I don't see Bernie putting one on the market and
donating to his own cause, right.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Bernie, why are you asking people for money when you
got the money you creep yeah.
So there's.
There's your example of youknow the lunacy, the craziness
and and I say it over and overagain I don't blame them, I
blame the people who keep votingthese people in shame.
On you, yep.
(57:53):
You get what you get, but youknow you also inflict the rest
of us with it.
So how about stop it?
We made it through.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
We made it through.
I mean I think we hadeverything.
I think we had everything, ohmy gosh, we're amazing.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yes, I will toot our own horn and talk about how
amazing we are.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, that was a.
That was a packed episode.
Great topics.
Great job, clay Clay.
I think I've told you thisbefore, but Clay is the master
of picking out our topics.
He makes my life so easy.
I am so grateful because mybrain gets so overwhelmed by how
(58:27):
many topics there are andthings that we could talk about.
He takes that off my plate, soI thank you.
Great ones, as always.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, Another great listen.
I all I do is just pick, Icherry pick, because keeps
giving us all this gold and wejust work our way through it.
So I just picked the fun onesand the ones that I know that
you want to talk about and thatI think our audience want to
hear about.
So that's what we do every weekand we appreciate everybody
tuning in and, as always for me,keep moving, keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Take care guys.
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