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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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And now it's time for the show.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, hey there,
another week, another bunch of
topics.
How are you Clay?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm good.
Yeah, you know, just like thiscurrent administration, nothing
slows down.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Nothing.
Nope, we don't slow down, notfor anything.
Neither does the news cycle.
Lots of great topics today.
We got.
How many do we have?
I meant to count down, not foranything.
Neither does the news cycle.
Lots of great topics today.
We got.
How many do we have?
I?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
meant to count it One
, two, six.
We got six topics today.
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Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well then, lots of
topics.
As we said Right off the bat,everybody's talking about the
potential for a governmentshutdown, or partial shutdown,
or full shutdown.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I think it's total
shutdown.
You know it's based off thecontinuing resolution and the
budget.
It's all about the money butit's not really about the money
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it just made it through theHouse yesterday.
It's okay, folks.
It know I despise straightparty line vote.
It's like that.
It's a bunch of lemmings.
It's terrible that it comes tothat, but it's a message from
the Democrats that they arewilling to shut down the
government based on politicsyeah, not really what's right
(03:03):
for the country, but on politics.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, really, what's
right for the country.
But on politics, absolutely andyou know, no surprise nothing
new.
This is what they do.
They don't give a hoot aboutthis country or the people in
this country.
They care about grandstandingand making their point and just
simply opposing anything thatDonald Trump is going to do.
No matter what he does, they'regoing to oppose it.
So you get a couple you knowbreakaways.
(03:27):
There was a what was it?
There was something where theywhat was just recently?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
like eight Democrats,
um oh it was that censure of uh
, yes, that's what it was.
Thank you, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Um, you know.
So you've got a couple ofpeople that are sick and tired
of the nonsense and agree withwhat you're saying, that you
know, not going to just vote onparty lines just just because,
but, yeah, this is, I mean, thisis going to be the deadline.
Did I say that?
Right, the deadline is March14th, so that's, you know,
literally, yeah, friday.
So you know, the thing is thisis this is largely about Doge,
(03:57):
right?
This is largely about Elon Musk, him cutting all of these, or
finding all of these you know,wacky, crazy, sneaky, dirty
expenditures that are that aregoing here, there and everywhere
and they don't like it.
They're mad because they don'twant the money to stop going in
their pockets.
That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You know, yeah, it's
and that's.
I just had this conversationtoday with someone and it was
you know, don't you thinkeverybody sees through what the
Democrats are doing?
And I said, well, of coursethey do.
You know, you've got all of thebig heads now.
You know everybody's kind ofdoing this postmortem,
continuing postmortem on theelection, four months later on
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why they lost.
And so James Carville, who youknow, truthfully, has been back
and forth a little bit.
You know the waning weeks ofthe election, I think somebody
wrote him a big fat check and hetalked about how great Kamala
was days before.
They talked about what a messshe was anyway.
So Kamala, um, you knowCarville has been saying it, um,
john Fetterman's been saying it.
You know you've got seniorformer Obama advisors that are
(05:02):
saying it.
That you've got.
You know the Democratic Party isin this.
They're one.
They're tearing themselvesapart because there's tons of
infighting right now, butthere's this loss of identity
and and all they know right nowis to oppose anything and
everything that Trump does Right.
Until they can get past that,they're going to continue to
lose.
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So this is an example of that.
It's just like you said.
You know they are all amped up.
They're all.
They see this as an opportunityto shut the government down,
and it's solely based on theexistence and the work that Doge
has done so far.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, as you said, theyare as a party, they're in a
tailspin.
They have no identity.
They are and Trump, you knowand I do believe that this was
very deliberate and intentionalin a lot of ways and also just
simply the way things went,because they're moving so fast
and everything they don't and wetalked about this before they
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don't know which way to turn.
They don't know where to attack, because the minute they start
attacking what he's doing here,he's doing something over there,
and then they have to run overthere and attack that.
So they're they.
They can't keep up, they can'tkeep up and, like you said,
they're infighting.
They're just a mess, you know.
And then there's the old schoolyou know, back in the day
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Democrats that are.
And then there's the old school, back in the day Democrats that
are clinging on to their partyand trying to figure out what's
going on and what's going tohappen.
And I find it fascinating.
We can just sit back and takeyour popcorn and be really
objective about it and justwatch the show as it goes on.
I'm very curious what's goingto happen?
Can the old school Democratsreclaim their party?
(06:44):
Can the old school Democratsreclaim their party.
Is it gone, these radicalMarxist progressive knuckleheads
, or why?
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah.
So they've got to figure outthat the party line vote right
now doesn't work because theydon't hold a majority in
anything.
They can vote party line in theHouse, they can vote party line
in the Senate.
It does nothing, literallynothing, because if they vote
party line, they've got to getsome Republicans to come with
them and you know, in some cases, maybe in ones and twos at the
most, they can get some folks tochange over, but not enough to
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change the outcome of a vote.
Kind of surprised right now isin the Supreme Court, which not
that long ago you had the entireDemocratic Party screaming.
We talked about this, packingthe court, extending, you know,
making the court larger.
You know they wanted to getmore justices in there so they
could flip.
And and really, what happenedjust this past week?
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You know, amy Coney Bryantvoted against what President
Trump was looking for and hedefended her for it.
Yeah Right, he stood up infront of America and said listen
, this is a legal battle, it's alegal decision.
You know this is the way shevoted.
I backed her.
She's a Supreme Court justice,that's her decision.
Ok, fine, so you know they cando all the party line stuff, all
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they want.
It affects absolutely nothing.
All it does is show the rest ofthe country that they are
adamantly opposed to anythingthat president Trump is doing,
and that is their only strategy.
Their only strategy is tooppose everything, and it stops
absolutely nothing.
So it's it's.
If they don't change something,if they don't figure this out,
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2026 is going to be a wash.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, as I said
before, I hope they keep doing
all of these crazy things thatthey're doing.
And you know, in case in point,they they are.
They are desperate to find anuntapped demographic.
You know, I'm sure you've seenthem.
There's been a couple of videosout.
I did some.
I did some videos on them.
Uh, you have a.
What's her name?
(08:44):
Rosa DeLauro, from, uh,Connecticut.
That, the purple haired lady.
She's, uh, she's so meme worthy.
Um, she made this unbelievably,embarrassingly, cringe worthy,
or apparently, as she would say,being like the kids, cringe uh,
video using, like all of theyou know the cool slang words
(09:06):
that 13 year olds use.
You know she's referring tothem as Gen Z, which they
technically are, but they're,they're at the beginning of Gen
Z, the babies of Gen Z.
You know.
So Gen Zers who are, I forgetwhat the age goes up to 20
something or other.
They're not saying these thingsthat the 20 somethings are not
using these.
That's your voter base rightnow, not the 13 year olds.
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It's just, it was horrendous.
And then, of course, the onewith the choose your fighter.
Did you see that one?
Oh, it's so painful, it's sopainful.
They're grasping, they're justgrasping anything that they can
hang on to, because they've losteverything.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, and you even
had Hakeem Jeffries.
You know we've got him on therun.
I don't know if you saw thatone, so I didn't see that one.
Yeah, so he he.
One, he's a horrible publicspeaker.
Two, he's just as bad off of ateleprompter, which is amazing.
But he did a commercial wherehe was talking about how we have
the Republicans on the run,right, we have the GOP on the
run.
He actually said, on the run,like 17 times probably in a two
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and a half minute, you know,little burst, and it was all
kind of broken and like none ofit was fluid and so they are
grasping at straws.
You know you had Ilyan Omar.
Yeah, I think it was.
Her was talking about how stupidAmericans are, how stupid the
Trump voters are.
You know she's just insultinghalf of America.
Yeah, so they're they're,they're really just trying to
grab anything they can and thispotential shutdown is not going
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to help them.
One, it's not going to gothrough and two, if it does go
through, by some miracle,they're going to catch the blame
for it.
So you know, as it, as itstands right now, they're not to
catch the blame for it.
So you know, as it, as itstands right now.
They're not doing themselvesany favors, so I don't expect it
to pass.
I think, you know come Fridayit'll vote in the Senate, it'll
pass, president will sign it.
(10:53):
You know we'll continue to moveforward.
It's not a budget, it's acontinuing resolution.
We would much rather have anactual fiscal, you know budget,
but we're we're, you know, sixmonths into, halfway through the
government, the federal fiscalyear.
So like it's not looking good.
But regardless, I think it's ayou know, failed attempt by the
Democrats to to stop Doge, tostop president Trump to gain
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themselves a bargaining chip orwhatever it is that they're
trying to do.
It's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
No, it's not going to
work.
You know, and all the way theythey shout is this what you
voted for?
Yes, how many times can we sayit?
Yes, this is what we voted for.
Like, I don't know what theythink this gotcha moment is that
does not exist.
Like, yes, this is what weknowingly voted for.
This is why I just had somebodyon my I don't.
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You know, I actually don't go onmy personal Facebook page
anymore, one because it's filledwith advertisements and
nonsense.
It's difficult to even actuallycommunicate with people anymore
on there, right, and I knoweverybody's noticed that.
So I generally just use my, mybusiness page, my business
profile page.
I went on my personal page theother day, yesterday, and I saw
(12:02):
an acquaintance post.
You know, one of the usual.
You know that the big anti-Trumporange man, bad Trump, you
Trumpers and that was the partthat got me the you Trumpers,
you magas, just that terminology.
Now, I don't take offense tothose terms.
I take offense that he wastrying to offend.
You know what I mean.
(12:22):
Now, this isn't some facelessstranger that you're directing
this to again.
Personal page, not my pro page.
Everybody can say whatever theywant.
Argue with me, knock yourselfout, call me a Trump around,
that I don't care, but you'resomebody who supposedly knows me
in real life or knows us inreal life our friends or family,
whatever the case is and thisis how you're talking to people
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that you know.
I got a problem with that, youknow.
So I, I, I did what I veryrarely do these days.
I got on my little soap box andI gave a little lecture about
behaving like a civil, decent,human being and remembering
those things.
But, oh my gosh, you know, thisis, this is what they.
They do.
It do.
It's just screaming andhysteria and no matter what goes
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on, they're going to fight ittooth and nail, despite the fact
that it's all for the good ofthe country.
Obviously, the tariffs.
You know, if you say that, goahead, go online and say the
price of eggs is going down.
They'll lose their minds on you.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Gas too.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yes, gas too.
Gas too four year low.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, listen, I've
been taking a page out of your
book.
I've been, I've been minimizingmy um, you know, responses to
people on social media.
Sometimes I can't help myself,but, um, I I've been trying to
model myself a little bit betterafter you.
But you're right, I mean it's,you know, um, trumpers, maga,
those are becoming slurs.
Yeah, you know, and it there'snothing's nothing.
(13:45):
It's kind of good, kind ofinteresting, because you know,
half of the population uses itas a rallying cry and half the
population uses it as aderogatory slur.
So you know, the terms likethat aren't going away.
But you know, it's all aboutyour.
You know everybody's differentview about how these things
should be done.
I think you're right.
I think you know everybody'sdifferent view about how these
things should be done.
I think you're right.
I think you know, in theirheart of hearts, you know, with
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a few exceptions of some seniorlevel politicians, I don't
believe that people want what'sworst for the country.
I do believe there are peopleout there that do that, are out
there for their own benefit.
But I think it's a matter ofhow, you know, they see things
differently and how to get itdone.
And I know that Doge is a youknow, and all of these cuts at
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the federal level are, you know,probably the biggest point of
contention.
But again, we've said it beforeif you don't like it, then vote
different, like.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Get a better
candidate, like you know not
right there, clay, you're right.
Get better candidates that canactually get the votes.
You know that don't have to bebasically like snuck into
through the back door and forcedon the people Like I don't know
.
Kamala, by the way, can wesegue for a second?
Did you see the word salad?
(14:58):
The Doritos, the Doritos.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What the fuck?
Even after so many months ofnot listening to the word salad,
I got about seven seconds intoit and I was like nope, I had to
stop.
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So I forced myself to
watch it.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So I was willing to
give up whatever might be the
tracking of Kamala Harris'sparticular fondness for nacho
cheese Doritos for the sake ofgetting a big bag of Doritos as
I watched the Oscars.
That's the consumer behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
But here's the thing
At what point do we also uplift
and highlight the consumer'sright to also expect and you can
debate with me if it should bea right, I think it should To
expect that the innovation wouldalso be weighted in terms of
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solving their everyday problems,which are beyond my craving for
Doritos, but about whatever?
And I know the work ishappening around scientific
discoveries, for example, tocure longstanding diseases.
But I'm going to throw outanother one and you all again,
please get back to me anyinformation you have.
I would love it if there wouldbe an investment of resources in
(16:14):
solving the affordable housingissue in America.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And I kept playing it
over and over, thinking now I'm
going to hear what the segue isinto what you're saying, like
where, where were thetransitions?
I'm going to hear what thesegue is into what you're saying
Like where where were thetransitions in?
Like it went from my love ofDoritos and I don't know,
sacrificing.
I don't even know, I don't,nobody knows, nobody knows, but
and nobody can tell you how shegot from one to the other.
It was such a mess and, um, Ithank her.
(16:38):
I thank her for giving me anopportunity to revisit her for a
brief moment and get to remindeverybody what a mess, what a
mess, what a disaster we avoided, but that's what they put in
front of everybody.
Yeah, that's what they put infront of everybody.
So I mean, be mad all you want.
Yes, I would suggest, insteadof being mad, just be better.
(17:00):
Just do better, that's all.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Right and again.
So we're.
You know we've got.
We do have Doge stuff going on,you know.
I mean Elon is doing what Elondoes along with this, you know
that horrific crew of 20 yearold genius.
It's like those kids are beingvilified and I'm sure they're
probably laughing like crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But I'm sure they are
.
How could they not right now,like they're sitting back, just,
you know, having the time oftheir lives this is like the
opportunity of a lifetime, andthey're, they're, just, they're
killing it, they're killing itand, like you said, laughing the
whole way.
Yeah, are there?
So this is, I guess I.
I should know this, but I don't.
Are there identities protected?
Cause I think they should bebased on the lunacy.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I have not seen a
single name.
I haven't either, okay, so I'mnot saying they're not out there
, but I haven't seen them.
So I think they're protectingthese kids as they should Like,
absolutely they should be yeah,yeah, like witness protection
kind of protection for a verylong time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, well, listen,
look what Elon Musk is going
through right now.
You know, besides, we're goingto talk about this, we're going
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to talk about the cyber attackon X.
That's our main topic here withthis, but, of course, as
everybody's probably seen overthe last few days, the attacks
on the Tesla plants and vehiclesand all of that, but that's
what they're doing.
You know, anything that has todo with him?
Um, they are going fullthrottle.
I think I just saw something.
I think he walks around with acrew of like 20 bodyguards at
all times.
Yeah, yeah, at all times, 20bodyguards, and obviously
(18:38):
rightly so.
I don't know if you saw the.
I only saw a clip of it,because we know that's what I do
.
I the clips.
Uh, elon was talking to I don'tknow if it was sean ryan, I
forget who he was talking to, um, but he was, you know,
basically asked a question,maybe it's joe rogan uh, asked a
question that he kind ofwouldn't answer.
He chose not answer becausehe's right.
(18:59):
Did you see that?
Yeah, if you, if you see, youknow, basically, if I, if I talk
about this, I'm going to getkilled, like, I will get killed
if I even talk about this.
Yeah, that's how bad it is.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, it was.
It was Rogan, and they weretalking about the insider
trading that goes on insideCongress.
Thank you, and you know he, he,yeah, I mean he said he started
to talk about it and then hestopped.
He's like listen, if I keepgoing on this, you know
something bad's going to happen.
And Rogan's like what are youtalking about?
Because they'll kill me, Likeif not comfortable talking about
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that stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, and I think
that really merits for everyone
some serious pause.
Think about that.
It is that bad.
It's worse than what we think,it's worse than what we know.
That's bad, it's really scary.
And it's just another reminder.
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This guy didn't have to do anyof this.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
He doesn't have to do
any of what he's doing, and you
know, and, and thank God, he'sdoing it because and the, the
spray painting, vandalism, theattacks on all the Tesla drivers
like, not six, nine, 12 monthsago, like you were a hero for
driving a Tesla because you weresaving the environment right,
that was as green as green couldget.
And, like you know Tesladrivers, it was a status symbol
(20:31):
and it was cool and you know,like everybody was all about it.
It was good for the environment.
And now, just because he'sworking for president Trump,
right, Like you could have athree-year-old Tesla that you
bought off the showroom floorand you've been driving it for
the last three years.
But if you didn't immediatelyturn around and sell that thing,
like as soon as Doge kicked offor as soon as he endorsed
(20:52):
President Trump, like it'sescalated.
Now they're literallydestroying vehicles yeah,
Privately owned, like you know,parked on the street in the city
and a neighborhood, justbecause of you know, Elon Musk.
Like people have lost theirever loving mind.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Completely gone.
I just saw a video, just asshortly before we came on here,
a video of a deranged you know,I don't Democrat chasing down a
Tesla family in their Tesla andliterally chasing the car as
it's driving and beating on thewindows and screaming you know
God knows what at them.
I mean this is.
This is a level of unhingedlunacy that that the left and
(21:34):
I'm talking about the elite left, the media, the politicians,
all these people they are 100percent responsible for these
people behaving the way thatthey are 100% responsible for
these people behaving the waythat they are.
They unleashed the craziestside of people with all of this
and they did it intentionally.
They did it intentionally.
This was all all planned out,all intentional and no one will
(21:58):
ever convince me otherwise.
I don't think anybody's goingto try to, but they wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And you know, like I
was just having this
conversation, do you remember?
Like right before COVID therewas this weird rash of people
like dressing up as clowns inpublic and they would like stand
in an alley or they would standin a parking lot, you know,
they'd have a big hammer or abat or something and then they
were randomly chasing peopleRight, like it was always
amazing to me that nobody gotshot.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
How is that even
possible?
I'm guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, I can
guarantee you, if that happened
to me, that would be the outcomeI am.
I am such a cliche.
I have a an extreme clownaversion.
I saw one of those things LikeI know you know, oh, everybody
was a clown, I have it, I don'tcare, I'm not sorry.
Yeah, bad things would happen.
(22:46):
So thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So that you know it
never, it never happened, it was
a weird thing.
And then COVID hit and then itall kind of went away.
But this like running alongsidebe like attacking people for
driving a specific car,physically accosting them,
scaring, like someone is goingto get shot for this, like
that's if this continues and itcontinues to escalate because
that's what's going on, is it'sescalating Someone is going to
(23:09):
get hurt and I can tell you thatit's not going to be the people
who own the Tesla, right, right, it's going to be somebody who
has got a can you know, a rattlecan and spray paint, or they've
got a whatever and they'redamaging a car, or they're
attacking a family getting in acar, something like that.
Someone's going to get hurt andit's just this, like you said,
unhinged, you know, lunacy.
(23:30):
Like the guy's driving a car,the lady's driving a car, just
living his life.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's it.
They're not doing anything Like.
They're literally just drivingtheir vehicle that they bought
with their money or makepayments on with their money.
I mean, come on, it's just thesame.
And you know, the craziest parttoo, is that if someone from
the left watches this, watchesjust this segment, I know for a
(23:54):
fact their response would be Ican't believe.
You care more about the vehiclethan someone's roof, and that
you're justifying killingsomebody for beating on a car.
Yeah, no, I am on a car?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, no, I am.
This is there.
There is a saying that says youknow um, you know, I can't.
I can't believe that you valueyou know what is it.
I can't believe you that youvalue your possessions more than
they value.
You value someone's life andit's like well, clearly, they
value my possessions more thanthey value their own life.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So if you want to
turn around, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So, but but so even
now it's escalated to now we've
got a cyber attack on X Rightand, and so I I was actually in
the middle of, I was trying topost a blog on Monday and I'm
like what the hell's going on?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Like I thought it was
just me.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So weird, right, I
was literally hit it right in
the middle of whatever was goingon.
And so now what they're sayingis it was a pro-Ukrainian you
know pro-Ukrainian hacker groupwho you know put a cyber attack
on X.
Yeah, the platform team.
Yeah, maybe an hour or two.
You know they got it undercontrol.
(25:00):
But you know, people can forget.
Like, the entire communicationsnetwork for the Ukrainian army
is done with Starlink, yes, andif Musk wanted to shut, if he
wanted to end the Ukrainian army, all he has to do is turn that
off.
They're done.
Long range communication gone,right, they, they would be
(25:22):
overrun so quickly.
It wouldn't even be funny.
So he's not anti-Ukraine.
Like these people have got thisstuff so twisted and backwards
that they don't even know whatthey're doing.
Like if you want to have himturn off Starlink, be
pro-Ukrainian and then attackhim.
Like that is just that.
It doesn't make any sense atall.
But people are not thinkingrationally in what they're
trying to do.
It just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, no, it doesn't,
and it's just par for the course
.
Right, this is, this is whatthey do, Everything that is, you
know, liberal leftist logic issynonymous with illogic
hypocrisy.
You know all of the things.
(26:05):
And and this is another sadextension of that, or example of
that it's just absolutelyinsane, and so I guess.
So now they're.
They did also say that you knowthe IP address came from the
Ukraine area, but they're alsosaying that there's certainly a
possibility that it was like aspoofing thing.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I guess you can make
that, yeah you can bounce IP
addresses, you can route itthrough different places
regardless, but again, you'renot just affecting Actually,
you're not even affecting ElonMusk.
If you shut down X, think he'sgoing to repair that and be
right back.
The people that you did hurtwere the and.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm not one of them,
the maybe hundreds or thousands,
I guess thousands of people whoare monetized on the platform.
You lost them a bunch of money.
(26:56):
And those are people on theleft and the right, because the
people that hate Elon Musk noware also on X.
Some of them left, of course,but you know, or claim that they
left, they're still there.
You know, they're still there,unlike rosie o'donnell was
apparently right.
Oh, I moved to ireland andnobody noticed, so she had to
come back and announce it.
She's like I moved, hello, Imoved to ireland and I'm there
(27:18):
now because you know trump,because of trump.
Nobody knew you were gone andnobody cares.
Least of all, President Trump?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah, but you know,
again, this is all resultant of
of everything that he's doing.
And you know, yes to thepresident, the request of
President Trump to initiate Doge, to get that team of 20 year
old geniuses and unleash federalgovernment.
And again, this is what wevoted for you know, I still will
not.
I can't grasp the concept ofanybody who says oh, my friend
(27:55):
worked at USAID, they got fired.
Oh, my friend worked at youknow such and such.
They were a probationaryemployee, they got fired.
Oh, this is awful, I get it,it's your friend, I got it.
But if you're upset about yourfriend losing their job and
you're not upset about thehundreds of millions,
potentially billions, of dollarsthat have been stolen from the
(28:18):
American public, including you,if you're more worried about
that person versus everythingelse that's been going on, I'll
never be able to grasp thatconcept.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
No, no, we are not
the same, right, we are just not
the same.
If that's your value system,you know the trillions of
dollars stolen from the Americanpeople, like you said,
including your own pocket, yourfamily.
Yeah, your priorities are alittle weird, to say the least,
right?
Yeah, again, if this were Biden, if this was Kamala Harris, if
(28:54):
this was anyone that they putforward, they would be cheering
and, and you know, getting thoseNobel peace prizes and whatever
awards and medals Get themengraved early, yeah.
Right, I mean, they wouldalready be done.
He'd be, you know times, personof the century.
Yeah, come on, and we all seethrough it.
Like you said before, we,everyone sees through it.
(29:15):
Nobody's falling for thisgarbage anymore, you know, and
and I think, I think that'sprobably what's causing them to
escalate even more Like this issheer desperation, now, frantic
desperation, and and that's whatmakes them scary, you know, and
and we laugh about it and makefun and we shake our head and
all those things, but they arelegitimately scary people
(29:36):
because they are of the mindsetthat they have nothing to lose,
because they think somehowthey've lost everything already.
And you know the world isending.
So this just sends them, youknow, even further into their
dark abyss of insanity.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, and it's you
know.
So now we've got a full cabinetright.
Everybody's been confirmed now,everybody that you know, I
think.
What did he lose to?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Matt, I actually
don't.
Um well, are you counting um?
Gates was one, yeah, Was thereanother one?
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
To tell you the truth
, it may have just been him, but
everybody else made it right Inrecord time.
By the way, they all gotthrough, including, you know,
mrs WWE herself, lady McMahon,the Department of Education, and
you know Doge is already inthere.
(30:26):
Actually, I don't even know ifDoge has to, but I think she's
in there cleaning house.
They've already.
You know, the eminent departureof about 50% of the Department
of Education is happening andpeople, of course, it's the same
reaction.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Right, yeah, I saw,
see what's her face.
Randy Gardner, is that her lastname?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You're talking about
the teacher's union, lady.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
So she, you know it's
interesting because six months,
no, right after the election,between the election and the
inauguration, right, so thatsmall window of about 60 days
somebody asked her about theelimination of DOE and she said
it doesn't matter.
That was her reaction, you know, less than 200 days ago, you
(31:09):
know, she said, oh, it doesn't,it doesn't matter, it doesn't
really affect anything.
And now she's backpedaling,right.
So, yeah, she was very upset,you know, and she's upset
because, you know, it's this,the idea that this shutting down
the DOE, the idea that thisshutting down the DOE, enabling
school choice in all thesefamilies, is going to somehow
(31:31):
make education worse.
Like we have a 27% literacyrate in fourth to 12th graders
right now.
Like it's so bad that you can'tallow this to continue.
Oh, by the way, they have anexorbitant budget that,
truthfully, not a penny of itgoes to actual education, right,
(31:52):
right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, it was going.
A whole big, massive chunk wasgoing to DEI initiative.
So, yeah, yeah, they are doinga very good job of convincing
the half of the population thatthis means that public education
is getting destroyed.
There's not going to be anypublic education.
(32:12):
How are they going to get moneyto do that is a massive lie.
They're getting rid of thebureaucracy, the unnecessary
middlemen, and they're givingthe money, the funds, directly
to the states, where it belongs,who it should go to and,
hopefully, who will be alsomonitored to make sure that
those monies are going to actualeducation and not transgender
(32:36):
this or you know whatever.
God knows what else they cancome up with full of nonsense.
So, yeah, you know the masshysteria that they're.
So, yeah, you know the the masshysteria that they're
encouraging is just absurd, yeahit's again.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
We're cutting up
bureaucracy.
Which increases efficiency oh,by the way, that's the E in Doge
right Maximizing efficiency,minimizing inefficiency.
Which allows the availabilityof more dollars to be applied
where they're supposed to beapplied, which is improving
education for kids.
Yeah Right, it just happens tobe at the state level which it's
(33:12):
pushing responsibility down tothe states.
Oh, by the way, that's the waythe framers wanted it, you know,
and?
And so the states have to ownit, and that's the way it works.
My guess is I'm not saying thisis going to backfire In some
states.
It's definitely going tobackfire because what the states
will do is they will and I'mtalking California, illinois,
(33:34):
new York, new Jersey, minnesota,michigan, all the culprit
states they're going toestablish a much larger
department of education at thestate level.
They're going to build all ofthat Department of Education at
the state level.
They're going to build all ofthat crap right back in that
used to exist at the federallevel, that somebody else did.
They're going to build it intotheir state DOEs and then, when
(33:56):
we have this availability ofmore dollars, they're going to
waste it on other stuff.
They're going to waste it ongenerating more bureaucracy, big
gov at the state level and it'snot going to go where it needs
to go, which is to the kidsRight.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right, and, and of
course, they will blame Trump.
They'll somehow.
They'll somehow blame Trump forthat happening.
Right, yeah, that's what theydo.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Listen, I, you know
the, and it'll be the same
culprit places.
You know everybody will blamethe big city, school districts,
Right and the and the mayorsthat go with them.
Now Mayor Adams is going tocatch out in New York, no matter
what Right.
You know, the mayoral office inChicago has been a disaster for
at least 10 years, you know,and the current mayor's got a
(34:40):
six point six percent approvalrating.
So you can complain aboutPresident Trump all you want,
but Chicago public school system, CPS, has its own problems.
Go back to COVID.
They were the ones that saidwe're not your babysitters, we
refuse to come to work, we'renot, you know, endangering our
teachers.
We're not doing this, we're notdoing that, and it was very,
very clear to the populationthat the teachers were not in it
(35:03):
for the kids.
So you know, I would assume, Iwould hope and I know that hope
is not a course of action and,truthfully, it'll never turn out
this way but this extra moneythat we're going to save, that's
going to get cut out of Doge.
If that could get pushed downto, I don't know teachers for
crying out loud to pay them whatthey're worth.
The biggest crime in America isthat cops teachers to pay them
(35:26):
what they're worth.
The biggest crime in America isthat cops, teachers, firemen,
soldiers right, Teachers,especially in there, are not
paid their value, to the system,to the country.
Right, Right, Right.
We do need to figure out a wayto increase pay for teachers.
Not that the candidates we haveare bad, I'm not saying that
but you're going to get bettercandidates.
You're going to get candidatesthat are going to stay for
(35:46):
longer.
They're going to stay teachers.
They're not going to ventureoff into other things because
you know their pay is so low andit just doesn't make sense.
They can't pay back theirstudent loans and everything
else.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, it's just,
it's so simple, right?
It's just common sense.
If you want the best, pay forthe best, get the seems so
simple.
Why is it never?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
so simple.
Listen.
The only people that complainabout high taxes and money
actually going to schooldistricts, the only people who
complain about that, are oldpeople who don't have kids in
school anymore.
And I get it I totally get itIf you're 65 and you live in a
place where they have a highschool tax and you're paying a
lot of money and you resent thatbecause your kids have been out
(36:30):
of school for 35 years okay, Iget it, sure, I get it.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
But they're also
wrong because shame on you,
because those are the samepeople shaking their fist at
their TV, saying you know, or atthe teenagers walking down the
street with their pants hangingdown off their their butts, and
you know?
That's what's wrong with ouryouth of America.
What's wrong is you didn'tinvest in them.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
That's a very good
point.
Right, that is a very goodpoint, you're right.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You don't get to
complain, that's, you know.
Somebody told me that years ago, years ago, before I was ever
even talking about politics andsocial issues, before it was
ever even a twinkle in my eye Iwas one of those people that did
not get involved.
I didn't know anything aboutpolitics, I didn't know anything
of the things.
And I, I complained aboutsomething in my town, um, to
(37:15):
someone who is very politicallyinvolved in our town, in our
town, and uh, I complained aboutsomething.
She said, well, did you vote?
I said no.
She said, well, then you can'tcomplain.
You got nothing to say and shewas right.
And I said, well, there's alittle eye opener, there's a
little, you know, slap ofreality.
So I use that all the time.
You don't get to complain, youknow, if you weren't part of the
(37:35):
solution, If you're not part ofthe solution, you don't get to
complain.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
That's that.
So, and you know, a greatexample of a state taking
education, you know, on itself,a great state of Arkansas, I
don't know if you saw this.
They are instituting, they havevoted, it's passed.
State of Arkansas, I don't knowif you saw this.
They are instituting, they havevoted, it's passed.
They are instituting mandatorygun safety training in public
schools and publicly, publicchoice charter schools.
(38:08):
I love that, Right.
So, and so they're.
They're developing the programnow and it could all the way way
.
They're considering everyoption, up to and including, I
think, at the high school level,off campus shooting experiences
, right, each actual, you know,firing gun safety kind of stuff.
So the state took it on itself.
They said this is how we thinkwe battle gun violence.
We educate kids, we take whatyou know, what I mean They've
(38:29):
got and the state's doing it,and the state's paying for it,
and it's part of theirdepartment of education.
That's doing it.
I love it, right, so they're,they're, you know, and it's
becoming part of the curriculum,which is exactly what I think
the federal DOE, especiallyunder the last administration,
would have fought tooth and nailto prevent that from happening.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
You know that for
certain.
So we take the federal DOE outof the way.
You've got states that aregoing to take this on.
They're going to develop theirown curriculum requirements
based on their population, etcetera, et cetera, and the state
of Arkansas is a great example.
And I'm not fully educated oneverything that DOE does, but I
can't justify the $680 millionbudget or whatever it is, that
(39:12):
they've got some exorbitantamount of money for completely
administrative purposes.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
So yeah, and neither
can they.
If they were to be honest,neither can they, because the
question always comes down toall right, well, show me the,
show me the test scores, show methe graduation rate you know,
show me, show me what this moneyhas done for the children.
And if you can't show mesomething, we already know where
we are standing in educationand all of the things.
(39:38):
I just saw a girl suing herstate, her district, whatever,
for she graduated with highhonors and she doesn't know how
to read or write.
I mean, come on, and, of course, yes, public school, yep, so,
uh, yeah, I, I applaud this moveagain.
That was, you know, a questionthat's one of my very liberal
(39:58):
friends posted on um Facebook, Ithink it was.
You know, are you happy?
He's going to eliminate the,the department of education, are
you happy?
Now, this is what he voted for.
Yes, yes, yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I'll tell you what
I'm not happy about, though.
There was a prompt, there was apromise made.
There was a promise made, andwe haven't seen it yet no I want
to know.
Pam bondy and kash patel, yes,where are the files?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
and I don't want to
hear national security, I don't
want to hear it yeah, that'sactually very concerning, and
you know, obviously, of course,that they're citing national
security, because what that does, in my opinion, what that does,
is it gives the you know, theanti Trumpers, the people who
hate Trump, who've been tryingto, you know, say that he's on
that list, he's on that list.
(40:45):
This kind of gives them somefuel and just stokes that more
like, oh, they're not releasingit because Trump's on it, you
know.
So I don't know what happenedhere in the chain of this and I
don't know, you know, who toblame for this, and maybe it is
Pam Bondi.
I don't really know, you know.
Could she have been just caughtup in some you know really
(41:08):
unfortunate circumstances overpromisingpromising before they
knew really what was in there?
I don't know.
What are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (41:16):
So I think the
sequencing of who got approved
mattered right.
So she got approved to be theattorney general first to run
Department of Justice.
It was the delay with KashPatel because he, you know,
there was a little bit ofpushback on him so he took a
little longer to get confirmed.
There was that gap in there,right.
(41:37):
And so we know for a fact thatthe New York office for the.
FBI was withholding files.
We do know that for a fact.
Oh, by the way, that thatdirector or deputy director or
whatever it is that was ran,that office gone, gone, which is
good.
But in the meantime we all knowthat there was also a lot of
(41:59):
things destroyed, a lot of files, a lot of information that was
destroyed.
But the expectation from PamBondi was, as soon as Kash Patel
walked in, that he was justgoing to be like, oh, here's all
the files and hand it to her,which we all know is not a real
thing.
So I think she really thoughtthat the FBI was prepared to
hand over the documents whenthey weren't.
(42:20):
So again, that's a little bitof overpromise.
Now my read on the wholenational security thing, and I
agree with you anytime that youput that label on it, I think
it's a bad look.
But if that is in fact true, Idon't think that it's a US
diplomat, a US elected officialthat's on that list.
Listen, we all know BillClinton's on it, of course,
(42:40):
right, national security, that'snot a thing.
Well, you know, is Hunter Bidenon there?
Probably?
You know again, is thatnational security?
Is that not something that wewould all go?
Well, of course he is.
I honestly think that there isa high level ally for
(43:01):
indignitarian.
I'm not talking Prince Andrew,I'm talking somebody with actual
power.
I think there's somebody likethat on the list that has an
effect on our relationships, orglobal relationships, um, that
we don't necessarily want torelease.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that would make a lot ofsense, it would make complete
sense, you know and there's alsothat you know you add another
layer to that that you knowthere's victims victims, names
in all of this, that I meanthese people have to be
protected.
So you know there's a processto it and I think, you know, I
think we have the right word forit Overpromised.
Yeah, you know, I don't know.
(43:40):
I mean, I think everybodybasically knew that the scope
was wide, that this was big andvery deep and very dirty and
disgusting and awful, and a lotof things needed to be squared
away first before things couldbe made public.
And I get that and I appreciatethat, and I don't think they're
I don't actually think they'rewrong for doing that.
I'm probably going to getattacked for saying that, but I
(44:02):
don't care, Whatever, you know,I just think they probably
shouldn't have promised thetimeline that they promised.
Yeah, I guess that's the best Icould say on it, Right, I mean
yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
But but again, to use
monikers like, oh, it's
national security, ok, you knowwhat we?
What we want is the unredacted,unedited, unaltered.
That's what we all want, right?
They never should have promisedthat, never Without seeing it.
If they had seen it and theysaid, yeah, we're going to
release the whole thing becausethere's nothing in there that we
(44:41):
can't share or don't want toshare, that's one thing.
But if you say without seeingit, hey, we're going to put it
all out there, we're at totaltransparency, without knowing
what's in the files, that wasbad promise, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
So now there's calls
from people on the right for Pam
Bondi to be removed.
Do you?
I mean, do you think that'sharsh?
Do you think that's?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
now way, way, way too
early for that, Right, I think
you know I don't know who'ssaying that.
I hadn't heard that.
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Is it like the usual
rhino suspects?
Yeah, yeah it probably is.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
It probably is.
That's a.
You know that's stupid,truthfully, I got you know
nobody.
Nobody knows their job and iscomfortable in their job in
under 90 days.
I don't care who you are orwhat the job is, you know it
takes everybody, and anybody,you know, at least 180 days to
be comfortable in their job, andyou know it's.
It would be nice to be exceptfor president Trump, cause he
(45:34):
did it for four years and thencame back Right, right.
But you know the rest of it,the rest of the team, you know
they've got to get settled andshe hasn't even been in 90 days
yet.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
So and she's and
she's, they're dealing the
entire administration in everydepartment is dealing with
adversarial people who aresupposed to not be adversarial,
they're supposed to be, you know, complying and doing their jobs
, and you know so they'remeeting resistance at every
single level of what they'redoing.
You know, we've got all ofthese operatives going on and
(46:07):
you know I mean you see it everyday in the news if you're
watching the right news that youknow this one is withholding,
this one's shredding documents.
This one is simply refusing toturn over documents or work or
answer the five questions ofwhat you did this week at your
job.
You know so they're meetingmassive resistance.
And of course you mentioned theNew York FBI director there,
(46:29):
who you know is now gone, theNew York FBI director there, who
you know is now gone.
Yeah, so a little bit of leewayhere, I think, is reasonable to
ask for, and then you know so.
Then the other thing I'm justlooking at it now.
So the other thing I just readtoday was apparently Kash Patel
requested a direct line.
Did you see that?
And of course people arespeculating about that.
(46:50):
Why would he do that?
Why would he kind of skip thechain of command?
Is there some lack of trustthat he that, and of course
people are speculating aboutthat why would he do that?
Why would he kind of skip thechain of command?
Is there some lack of trustthat he has?
And I guess it would be PamBondi, right, would she be the
next?
Would she be the next?
Yeah, okay, so he would answerto her.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yep, okay.
So some of it is proximity,some of it is availability, some
of it is and listen, we don'teven know like he may have had a
discussion with Pam Bondi andshe said, yeah, go ahead If you
need to.
You know if she trusts himenough to be like hey, listen,
if you think it's a direct tothe president and you don't want
to stop and talk to me firstand you know, I trust your
(47:24):
judgment and just brief meafterwards Like there's a lot of
business people, there's a lotof military leaders, there's a
lot of folks who operate likethat and they get applauded for
it.
But now we've got the you knowpeople who think that they want
to make something out of itwithout knowing any of the
details.
So, yeah, he wants a directline to the president.
Okay, fine, right, you know,maybe the two of them sat down.
(47:46):
I think they were someplacetogether Not that long ago, the
two of them sitting down, andwas it that Super Bowl?
They were all chummy chummy.
Oh yeah, president Posh Patel,you know President Trump might
have leaned over and said hey,let's get you a direct line to
my office, right you?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
He's a pretty
hands-on guy, so you know yeah,
nobody knows, like there's somany variables in that.
It's not like the presidentremembers every.
You know what I mean.
He's not going back and goingto his communications director,
go, hey, get me a direct line toPatel, you know.
Or he may have said hey, gosh,when you get back, put in a
request, get a direct line to me, just handle it from your end
(48:22):
and I'll wait, and then we'll beokay, right, but but everybody
likes to speculate and make yeah, there's no, yeah, I was just
going to say this is like, youknow, pot stirring.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
You know this is
probably like oh, you know, take
a look, there's.
There's trouble in paradise.
You know people who want tocause strife between you know
his party, and that's been goingon from day one.
Of course, they tried to youknow eight years ago.
Yes, yeah, this is nothing new.
And you know Trump in theentire cabinet is sitting there
going like you really think thisis our first rodeo here, like
(48:54):
get over yourselves.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, yeah absolutely
, and you said it there.
They're getting consumed atevery turn by gatekeepers and
you know obstructionists and youknow all this stuff.
You remember when, like theClintons, left the White House
and they popped every W off ofthe key like that was childish.
But I would take that overwhat's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I would too.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
That's like some
gentle, you know, you know we
got bigger fish to fry, I mean,you know.
So one of our last topics hereis we just had a pro-Assad
uprising in Syria and, for thoseof you that don't know we have
about, we have a couple ofhundred troops in Syria.
Right, I know President Trumptalked about bringing everybody
(49:36):
home, but there's folks, youknow, operating out of Syria for
a number of reasons, doing anumber of different things, and
so they're kind of caught in themiddle of this.
So, you know, assad wasoverthrown not all that long ago
.
You've got a new regime inthere, and now what you've got
are pro-Assad people in anuprising, and this wasn't like a
January 6th kind of a thing.
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This is like belt fed machineguns and like.
And then, oh, by the way, aspart of this, they are
persecuting and, oh, by the way,executing Christians in Syria.
And for those who don't know,historically there are a lot of
nations Middle East nations thathad deep, dense Christian
populations for not just decadesbut centuries Big Christian
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population in Egypt, bigChristian population in Iraq,
big Christian population Syria,lebanon, like all in that area.
They had pockets of, of lots ofChristians and they've all been
run out or or killed in theprocess and that's what's going
on in Syria.
This is like genocide,christian genocide in Syria
(50:43):
right now, from this pro Assad,you know uprising guerrilla
group, whatever they're callingthemselves- yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
And you know, I can
guarantee to you that most
people on the left do not evenknow that this is happening.
And why?
Because the left ownedmainstream media isn't going to
talk about it.
Not on their priority list.
If it's not DEI, if it's notDonald Trump, if it's not
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LGBTQXYZ, they don't care.
If it's Christians, they don'tcare, doesn't fit their
pro-Islam narrative or don'thurt anyone.
You know Islam's feelings.
It just doesn't count for them.
But 745 Christians were killedin 48 hours as they dragged.
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This is just.
You know, I hate picturingthese things, but I think, to
drive the point home, reallypicture what these poor people
went through dragged from theirhomes, tortured and executed.
Churches were burned, entirefamilies wiped out, their
families wiped out 48 hours.
Neighborhoods, of course,christian neighborhoods targeted
(51:54):
, and then, of course, thesilence from the mainstream
media.
I hate calling them themainstream media, but that's
what I'm going to call them andtheir slogan.
This is their slogan First theSaturday people meaning Jews,
then the Sunday people meaningChristians.
That's their slogan.
I'm speechless.
(52:15):
It's actually anger.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
I tell you what, for
all the viewers out there,
everybody who watches us,everybody who listens, whatever,
if you find anywhere, you knoweverybody's got the I stand with
Ukraine signs in their frontyard and they're wearing the
blue and yellow flag pins.
If you find a I stand withChristians in Syria, sign
t-shirt pin emblem anywhere atall, please contact Elsa and I.
(52:42):
I want to see it because I canpromise you that does not exist.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
No, but maybe I
should make one.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yeah, what you should
do is you know, do you have an
auto pen?
Speaker 2 (52:59):
We know somebody who
had an auto pen.
We know somebody who had oneand went to town with it, or at
least somebody did on his behalf.
How about this?
First of all, obviouslynobody's actually surprised here
by any of it, but it's justwild to me that now we're
finally talking about it.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
So I managed an auto
pen when I was an AD camp for
then Lieutenant GeneralRodriguez in Kabul in 2010, 11,
we had an auto pen in the office.
Okay, those that don't knowwhat an auto pen is, it is a
mechanical device, right?
You register a signature rightin the computer and then, when
(53:39):
you needed to sign something,you put a literal ink pen or
felt pen or Sharpie or whateverit is, into the machine.
You type in the code becausethey're all coded to make sure
that not everybody has access.
You type in the code, you putthe paper in there, you hit the,
you know it's all lined up andyou hit the button and it
(54:00):
replicates the signature.
It's a real signature with areal pen.
Okay, that's really cool.
Actually, it replicates thesignature that's registered in
the computer.
Okay, they again with the codecontrolled.
Okay, there were two, twopeople besides the boss, besides
(54:20):
my boss.
There were two people that hadthat code me and one other
person.
That was it.
So anytime that thing was used,there was only a couple of
people that had the code to do.
Do that, we only used it foraward certificates, everything
else, right, right, because thatwas one of those things, that
one.
We wanted a real signature ontwo.
You know, hundreds of thosethings were produced um so, but
(54:45):
anything else, officialdocuments and truthfully those
were only lower level awards,like the very important awards
we're talking about valoroussilver star kind of stuff.
My boss signed those himself.
Okay, um, but anything official, any that that auto pen was
used so rarely.
It had dust on it Like we wouldhave to clean it before we used
it, right?
(55:06):
But clearly the one in the ovaloffice was used on a regular
basis.
What did they say?
They can find one thing.
Yeah, I'm looking through mynotes here.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, so definitely
used considerably more than any.
As you said, it's a commonpractice to have that, to use
that in those types ofsituations, oh for sure, but
they're used, like you said,with infrequency and for certain
occasions.
This was apparently used onnearly everything, with the
(55:38):
exception of Biden's letter thathe wrote, right, that was like
the only thing that it was noton out of.
You know, I don't even knowhundreds, I don't know he wrote
it.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
He wrote it and
signed it in Delaware.
He wasn't in the White Housewhen he did it, right yeah?
So literally every and again,folks, what this does is the
president doesn't have to bethere, he doesn't have to
authorize what's being signed,and the only control you have
over the code is who you give itout to.
(56:13):
It's just like your pin on yourATM or your credit card.
You have it, maybe your spouseor your significant other has it
, maybe your kid has it, butthat's it.
Those are the only people thathave your ATM card.
But if you take that thing andyou give it out to 10, 15 people
, or if you don't monitor whatyour kid's doing, they're going
to drain your bank account,right, and so they're going to
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use it because they have thecode.
This is the same thing.
Anybody with that code andagain, the code was not
controlled, obviously anybodycould walk in, put any piece of
paper, any document and put thepresident's signature on it.
And it's a real signature witha pen, right yeah, and it's a
real signature with a pen.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Right, yeah, I just
got this image of like you know,
jill going you need the pen,here it is.
You know she tosses it over toHunter and Hunter's like yeah,
good, ok, I'll sign this one andyou know you need the pen here.
You take it Like it just gottossed around to whoever
happened to be sitting behindthe desk that day.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah, it's crazy.
I'm laughing but it's not funny.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
I'm laughing but it's
not funny.
It's incredibly serious becauseobviously that leads to the
very real and important questionof if he didn't sign these
legal documents that are policy,that are legislation, that are
executive orders, that are Idon't know pardons, if he didn't
legally sign them, that shouldinvalidate all of them.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
So didn't legally
sign them.
That should invalidate all ofthem.
And if you manage one of thosethings, the way they're supposed
to be managed, every singlesignature is supposed to be
logged so that you know what wassigned, when and with the
authorization of the signatoryright.
So I guarantee you they don'thave a log, because if they had
a log they could go back and say, well, this was signed.
Then when was the president?
(57:56):
Because you know if anybodywent in there and signed
anything at 2 am, president'snot there.
That old man sleeping, you know, or they can bounce it off of
his trips to Delaware, or theycould.
They could find all kinds ofholes in this, but the
assumption is is that the vastmajority of things that were
signed when he was in the WhiteHouse he had zero awareness.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you know we're getting somuch, you know, after the fact,
confirmation from people in theknow, people from the media like
Jake Tapper, and there's acouple other people too that are
now, you know, coming out ofthe woodworking on oh yeah, you
didn't have a clue what wasgoing on.
It was wild over there.
Yeah, you know, you have lotsof people coming out with
(58:33):
confirmation that this guy wasnot.
Lights were on but no one washome and you know, it's all what
we knew.
But to hear it from thesepeople who covered this whole
thing, this needs to be lookedinto, obviously.
I mean, and I don't know what'sgoing to happen, I guess you
guys can chime in I mean chimein on everything, of course, but
(58:54):
I especially I think we reallywant to know your thoughts on
this.
What should happen at thispoint?
Should they fully investigateit?
Let it go and just move forward?
I mean, I'm all for investigateit.
You know, undo some of thethings that he's done, those
pardons right at the top of mypersonal list.
I want those pardons removed.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yep, I'll tell you
who's shaking right now Adam
Schiff.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Oh, yeah, he is.
Yeah, he is Loving it.
So many things that keep.
I have been smiling so muchsince January 20th, so much
smiling that I'm probably goingto have to go to my uh, my med
spa and get a little Botox orfiller or something in my, in my
, laugh line.
Just kidding, I'm not reallykidding, but I'm kidding
(59:39):
Whatever.
Well, you know what?
We did it, holy cow.
We did it.
We got through all of them.
We are so good, we're so goodat this.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
It's always.
It's always fun.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
It is, oh my goodness
, guys, the usual.
We, we love engaging with youguys in the comment section.
We see it, we, we hop in thereand we, we chime in here and
there and we, we love yourinvolvement.
We love you guys and appreciateyou so much.
Just the reminder Clay startedoff letting everybody know we're
recording on Wednesday.
You're watching on Thursday.
We're watching with you.
Clay, go ahead and send themoff.
Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Listen, folks,
another great week, and you know
the new cycle keeps on rolling,so we'll be.
We appreciate you all tuning inand we'll be back with more
next week.
And, as always for me, keepmoving, keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Take care guys.
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