April 3, 2025 • 60 mins
Clay and Elsa explore the politically-motivated attacks on Tesla vehicles that have escalated to what many are calling domestic terrorism. Tesla owners are resorting to writing messages on their windows claiming Democratic affiliation to avoid vandalism while Elon Musk claims to know who's behind the orchestrated violence.
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Oh my goodness, well, well,well.
The Tesla situation has notdecreased at all.
It's still insane.
And we're not talking aboutrising car prices or EV tax
credits.
We're talking about the actualorchestrated violence and
attacks against Elon Musk'sTesla brand.
Uh, stars, not even, I mean.
Obviously it's because it's hisum, but attacking other
people's vehicles is is reallywhat it comes down to, and I
(02:53):
think it's kind of ironic, clay,I don't know about you, but I
think it's kind of ironic thatthe predominant buyer of Tesla's
have been left-leaning people,so they're torching and keying
and vandalizing each other'svehicles.
The stupidity right.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, listen, I've seen it.
You've probably seen it too.
There's actual pictures outthere where the owners will take
one of those soap markers, likekids, write on happy graduation
or happy birthday, and they'llwrite on the window purchased in
2020, you know before you know,owner is a Democrat, whatever
Just to try and protectthemselves.
(03:34):
But you know, it would makesense and I'm not advocating,
obviously, for any of this, butit would make sense.
The attack on the dealershipsand the dealerships only it
would make sense.
The attack on the dealershipsand the dealerships, only the
attack on the charging stationsdoesn't make any sense.
And the attack on personallyowned vehicles certainly doesn't
make any sense.
And I understand the Cybertruckseems to be catching the bulk of
(03:55):
it because it's the newestmodel.
The Cybertruck came out duringthe Biden administration.
Most of those were pre-orderedand were in possession of the
owner before President Trump wasin office, before Elon was
running Doge.
So you're right, they'rebeating each other up, they're
causing each other heartache andit's over.
Just this lashing, this very,very immature lashing out.
(04:18):
That makes no sense at all.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, and it's the typical response and reaction
that they tend to have, and ofcourse, I'm generalizing, but
it's pretty stinking accurate,you know.
So here's the thing, thoughlike the as usual, like the left
run media, downplays it, barelytalks about it and treats it as
(04:43):
if it's like isolated incidents.
Right, and now Elon Muskhimself is coming out and saying
that he actually knows who isbehind.
I don't know if this is himtrying to scare, it's a scare
tactic, or if he really knows.
I don't personally know.
But now he's saying I knowwho's behind it and we're coming
for him.
So you know these areorchestrated attacks from
(05:06):
somebody with obviously a lot ofmoney.
And, of course, my, my mindgoes right to Soros.
You know Soros backed right, um, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, it's, um, you know, uh, a lot of it is, you
know, lefty crazy.
You know they still haven'tfigured out that every one of
these vehicles has nine, sevencameras or nine cameras on it.
You can't pick up on it, youcan't scuff it, dent it, key it,
which seems to be thepredominant thing, although
there has been some spray paintand some other more permanent,
you know, kind of stuff, butthose, you can't escape that
(05:38):
stuff, but it.
And it seems that people thatkeep getting caught are the low
hanging fruit, they're thedumbest ones that haven't
figured that stuff out yet.
And it seems that people thatkeep getting caught are the low
hanging fruit, they're thedumbest ones that haven't
figured that stuff out yet.
But the bigger stuff, the burneddown dealerships, the attacks
on the charging stations, youknow there's even people now
that are test driving them andreally putting them through some
painful paces when they're testdriving and doing damage to
(05:59):
them as part of the test drive,and that is the kind of stuff
that you're talking about andeverybody's mind anybody with a
half a brain goes to Sorosbecause you know it's laundered
four ways from Sunday.
It's Soros' money and it goesto somebody else and it gets to
Antifa and then Antifa findssomebody and they pay them and
you know.
So it's all of those methodsthat we saw, you know 2020, you
(06:21):
know during COVID and GeorgeFloyd and all of that stuff.
This is the same thing, right.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Oh, absolutely.
These are the predominantlypaid agitators who listen.
I don't know if they get bailedout afterwards or not, but
they're probably getting paidwhat they consider to be a
reasonable sum of money to dothese things.
And you're absolutely right.
You know you watch those videos, those camera videos from the
(06:48):
Teslas, and you know I mean I'mgoing to try not to be overly
mean, but the people that aredoing this and then getting like
confronted after I saw Love itRight.
I saw did you see the one theother day?
It was an elderly guy and Imean, yes, yeah, had the quickly
right, I saw.
Did you see the one the otherday?
It was an elderly guy and Imean, yes, yeah had the exact
same jacket on did you just keyat tesla the other day.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
You're on video.
Yeah, this is the guy.
You just keyed a tesla.
You got a video online.
I just saw it.
It's all over the fucking face.
Uh, you have the media.
Yes, you did.
You keyed a tesla in a parkinglot somewhere around here.
(07:58):
What do you got to say about?
Said I plainly saw you doing it.
You pulled up.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, he's like I don't know what you're talking
about.
Like you're on camera.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
How do you not know this at?
this point at least.
Yeah, you know, yes, I agreewith you.
I think those are definitelylike the low hanging fruit,
people who just don't you know,they're just reactive people
that you know, the media and theleftist, the Democrats we'll
call them because that's whatthat party is now.
They're just all leftist peoplefor the most part.
(08:29):
They say be angry and they'relike okay, I'm angry, what am I
angry about?
Oh, it doesn't matter, I'lljust be angry.
And, you know, do destructivethings because you told me to.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's.
Unfortunately, though, it'sescalating, and I say that it's
escalating to the individualowner, so that they had the
dealership that got attacked,that got firebombed, right, a
bunch of cars got burned on that.
That person got arrestedalready.
And then you had the other one.
I don't know if you saw thislike the front of the dealership
.
They came out with paintballguns, plastered it with a bunch
of, like maroon colored paint.
(09:02):
But what you're having now thisis where things are going to get
very, very dangerous is thatyou've got, you know, protesters
.
I don't know another word otherthan lunatics.
Yeah, you've got these lunaticsand they're attacking people on
the roadway.
It's a it's a road ragesituation.
So they're, they're cuttingthem off, they're they're kind
of leaning into them in traffic.
They're doing all those sortsof things, and thankfully,
(09:26):
nothing has escalated to a pointof real violence yet.
But as this continues, if thisdoesn't get brought under
control, that's exactly what'sgoing to happen.
You're going to have aconservative concealed carry
holder who has got a gun in hisor her vehicle, who gets rammed
on the highway, and then you,you know, they pull over and a
(09:46):
lunatic jumps out of theirvehicle to attack them because
they drive a Tesla and somebodyis going to get hurt.
It's going to, and I meanthere's going to be a fatality.
Somebody is going to get shotover.
This.
It's gonna.
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you're wrong, you
know in.
I mean, I don't think you'rewrong, you know, and I mean I
don't know what the deterrent is, because I think they're
already getting charges, orfelony charges, I think they I
don't know if they can and arecharging every time they catch
somebody.
If they're charging them withdomestic terrorism, if they can,
they should.
Other than that, I don't know,but I keep hearing the term
(10:21):
felony charges againstvandalizing these vehicles,
because I think it's becausethey're escalating it to being
domestic terrorism, which it is.
It is 100%.
I don't care who disagrees withme.
This is domestic terrorism.
It's organized, politicallymotivated, organized attacks.
And, yeah, I mean prosecutethem to the fullest extent of
(10:44):
the law.
It's the only deterrent I canthink of.
You know that that might havesome kind of impact, you know,
unless they're getting bailedout by, you know, soros backed.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, and you're right.
So this is there's no deterrentright now, and again it
continues to escalate, which Ihate to keep saying this, but it
is going to escalate to thepoint of a fatality here sooner
or later.
But you touched on it beforeand I think the biggest thing is
that no one in the media and noone on the left from their
(11:17):
political leadership is sayingstop doing this, stop doing this
.
There is no hey, enough isenough.
Hey, we understand you'refrustrated.
Hey, don't do this, stop doingthis.
There is no hey, enough isenough.
Hey, we understand you'refrustrated.
Hey, don't do this.
You know nobody is saying thatout loud.
The media is certainly notsaying it, right, and then, of
course, the Democraticleadership is certainly not
saying it.
So when you don't have that,you know that example being set
(11:39):
you don't have that leadershipquality that says OK, this is
absurd, we've had enough of this.
I know you're mad, stop doingit.
None of that is happening.
So this is just going to keepgoing and again it's going to
turn in.
Something tragic is going tohappen and it's it's going to be
pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Right, and you know, and even worse than them, not
condemning the actions and thebehavior, they are absolutely
fueling the fire and spurringthem on.
I mean, they're you know, yougot your Cory Bookers, who we're
going to be talking aboutshortly, and your Jasmine
Crockett's and your AOCs and youknow all of these.
You know flaming idiotsencouraging and don't forget
(12:12):
Maxine Waters, who's alwaysshaking her bony finger at
somebody, telling them to youknow, interrupt their dinners
and don't let them rest and goto their homes, and all of the
things.
Don't let them rest and go totheir homes, and all of the
things.
You know they're not justignoring it, they're encouraging
it, which is actually evenworse.
Gone are the days where youknow politicians would like a
(12:33):
whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know our leaders.
You can have these opposingviews, you can get pretty nasty
and spicy about it, but when itcrossed the line into violence
and destruction and you knowriots and all of those things,
there was a time I know nobodycan actually remember it anymore
because it's so far back in ourhistory now there was a time
when you know they'd go whoa,okay, hang on, everybody's got
(12:53):
to calm down, rein it in, let'skeep this civil.
And that is not happening.
And I find that to be, you know, truly the most appalling part
of all of it, that the peoplewho are supposed to be leading
by example for our country arebehaving the way they're doing,
and I just want to see sternconsequence for it.
(13:16):
And I feel like we're notseeing it.
You know we're getting a lot offinger wagging.
I want to see Mike Johnson domore censoring of these people,
and I know I'm kind of driftingoff a little bit on this one,
but you know this is kind ofwhere it stems from, because
this is who's part ofencouraging this kind of
behavior.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, and, and really there's.
There are so many consequencesto this that aren't being
considered.
All of these people that are,that are conducting this.
You know domestic terrorism.
I won't even say vandalism,because it's not.
You are a hundred percent right, this is domestic terrorism.
Oh, by the way, attorneygeneral Pam Bondi says the same
thing.
Right, that's right, she does.
Yeah, so these people don't.
(13:54):
I don't know if they'rethinking through this, I don't
know if they even care, but assoon as you are a felon which is
what this turns into you can'tvote anymore Like so, you're,
that's gone, right.
You, you know your earningpotential goes down
significantly, right, like,there, there's a lot.
You can be, as you know, upsetas you want about this.
You know you don't likepresident Trump, you don't like
(14:16):
Elon Musk, but as soon as youventure into this criminality
which is what's going on you are.
This is not protesting, right?
This is not peaceful protesting.
You are ending portions of yourlife, whether you agree with it
or not.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So the consequences, like you say, I don't think our
people are really realizing howsevere they can be.
The problem is they're also notinstantaneous.
You know, with court, you knowour justice system, the way that
it works, it does take time andthese sorts of things.
Some of these people are goingto get prosecuted and know the
you know the end game or the endstate of all of this.
For a year, maybe two RightAppeals will last a long time,
(14:54):
but you know they're going tolose a lot, especially the
people caught on tape.
There's no there.
There is no recourse for that.
You know there's no gettingaround that.
It's not a case of mistakenidentity.
Case in point the bald guy withthe jacket, literally wearing
the same clothes, literally.
(15:14):
So yeah, it's going to getworse before it gets better.
And oh, by the way, they arehurting Elon Musk, not
necessarily by the vandalism forthe cars and even the vandalism
for the dealership.
The other piece component tothis is you know, tesla stocks
have dropped, tesla purchaseshave dropped and with the stocks
I saw this just yesterday thereis a component inside of
(15:36):
Hollywood where people arebuying the stock and then
selling it at a much lower price, driving the price down and
then selling it at a much lowerprice, driving the price down.
So they're purposely tanking thevalue of Tesla itself, you know
, as a form of political protest.
I would much rather have themdo that right than the violent
part of it.
Right, yeah, this is this.
(16:00):
Doing that is the same thing asnot buying Budweiser.
It's the same thing as all ofthose other.
You know, stop shopping atTarget.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing as as allof those other.
You know, stop shopping attarget.
It's the same thing, a littlemore dastardly, I think, but you
know it's a nonviolent protestto to Elon Musk and his company.
Okay, fine, it is what it is,but that's much better than
burning down dealerships and,you know, potentially hurting
people and and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Um, you know all of it isdisgusting and I do agree if
you're going to do it, if you'regoing to make your, your
statement in your protest.
You know, you, you do, you knowit's.
It's like all of those thingsyou do with your wallet, you do
it with your vote, you do it ina civilized you know.
Just be civilized, that's all Imean.
(16:41):
I don't, I don't have to agreewith what they're doing by any
means and and I honestly do, andI don't know about you, you
know, and I know some peoplewill balk at the idea of, like,
feeling bad for Elon Muskbecause he is a
multi-billionaire and he's goingto be perfectly fine.
But on the, you know, on theemotional level, on the humanity
level, I mean, this guy wastheir darling, like he was
(17:04):
beloved by, by the left andbecause, because he changed his
mind on something, this is whathe gets, you know, and that's a
cautionary tale to every singlepublic figure on the left.
I mean, pay attention to whatthey're doing to this guy
because, say something out ofline, you know, get one little
(17:27):
fraction out of lockstep, andthis is what they do to you.
I mean that anyone would wantto be associated with that party
, and that mentality is beyondme absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And you and you've got the people who don't
consider or refuse to considerthe other things that he does
and has been doing.
I've actually, you know CharlieKirk I love watching the
Charlie Kirk clips, but you knowyou've got a lot of people that
will.
You know, a lot of college kidswill take their you know their
30 seconds of fame and talkabout how well Elon doesn't do
it.
It's all his employees, it'sall you know.
It's all this, it's all that.
(18:01):
But you even have, you know,like the ladies on the View were
, like I don't know, I don'tunderstand why we even have
SpaceX, like we have NASA, theydon't even understand that NASA
has not sent a manned mission tospace since 2011.
Right, it's been 14 years sinceNASA did that.
(18:22):
Everything else that's been donehas been through NASA, but NASA
has not launched anythingmanned into space in 14 years.
So you know, elon has thecapability, spacex has the
capability.
Oh, by the way, starlink, wecould talk about Starlink for
all of that.
Oh, by the way, those that arego the opposite political
(18:44):
direction, changing nothing else.
Yeah, tesla hasn't changed.
Spacex hasn't changed.
The only thing he did was hebought X and he let President
Trump back on X.
(19:06):
Yeah, but other than that, hisbusinesses have not changed.
No, and they still hate him.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, and they don't even get that.
They are the ones that pushedhim, yeah, to make this
reevaluation.
And it's so crazy too, when youthink about it.
Right, clay, you're talkingabout like one of the smartest
guys alive and innovator,creator all of these things.
They idolized him and itbaffles me that they wouldn't go
(19:31):
.
Huh, the guy that I idolize andthink is one of the smartest
humans on our planet right nowhe's changing his mind about
something.
Gee, maybe I should reevaluateand think about it and see, you
know what he's talking about.
And instead they're just likeno, oh, you know, the switch
goes off and they're like Elonbad, just like orange man bad
(19:52):
Elon bad.
It's so bizarre to me howcontrolled they are by the media
.
By the media, I mean, it's bythe media there, that is a
hundred percent politicians.
I mentioned them all the timebecause they're, they're part of
it too.
Um, but man, oh man, the powerthat the media has over these
people is mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yep, and that's again .
They're not.
You know they're not speakingout against the attacks on Tesla
they're not speaking about,period I.
Even the reporting on them isminimal.
So you know it's Elon's bad.
Musk is bad, bad, bad.
He's associated with Trump isbad.
Oh, by the way, he owns Tesla.
And then they move on tosomething else, right, and, and
(20:37):
that's how all of this works.
And again, it's orchestrated atmultiple echelons.
It does.
I firmly believe it starts withSoros and it works its way down
.
You know the money's beingmoved around, it's being
laundered, and that's how thosethings.
And then the bails being paidand fees are being paid and all
that other stuff.
So you know everything thatPresident Trump does, everything
(21:00):
that's associated with him,every person that is associated
with him, is a horrible humanbeing.
Yeah, nobody.
There's no respite there.
But that's the party of love.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Love and tolerance.
Love is love, be kind, coexist.
Every slogan cliche bumpersticker.
Every slogan cliche bumpersticker.
All them, and also the samepeople that I, you know and, as
you well know, uh, I am a.
I certainly would call myself avictim by any means, but I am a
(21:27):
recipient of that uh type ofhate and disgust and contempt
from them.
You know, just for having myopinions, that's it, it's all
you do.
Just have an opinion thatdoesn't go along with theirs and
they will come after you.
And I see people on the right,you know, conservative voices,
who are very moderate in theirdelivery, like, they're actually
(21:49):
very kind in the way that theyrelay the information, but
because the information thatthey're relaying or sharing, or
truths that they're sharing,don't align with what they think
, they just rip them to shredsand, of course, docks them.
You know you're talking aboutpeople who will expose where you
live, who your family membersare, attack your children on
(22:11):
social media.
Yeah, I mean, you're dealingwith people who, for whatever
reasons, are beyond unhinged andit is scary.
And I totally get why peoplechoose not to get involved, you
know.
But this is and I've gone backto this many times over the
years that, you know, this iswhy we're at where we're at.
(22:32):
You cannot allow them to justdominate the narrative like this
all the time.
And it's not, you know, thepushback is so here.
I mean, we are living in thepushback now, which is
phenomenal, but my goodness, Icertainly understand why people
won't.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, but it's the narrative, you know, switching
topics, the narrative has been,you know, through the entire
last administration.
You know well it takes this andwell it takes that.
We can.
Nothing moves that fast, right,and President Trump, when he
talked to the joint session ofCongress, talked about it with
the border, and it was one ofthose.
That was the absolute mic dropmoment of the night.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
The media and our friends in the Democrat party
kept saying we needed newlegislation.
We must have legislation tosecure the border, but it turned
out that all we really neededwas a new president.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And here we are, here we are, here we are and it's
all happening and you know, justlike you said, with the border
crossing alone, it is justphenomenal, it's unbelievable.
What's the number?
I think the number is like it'sdown like 94%, is that right?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yep, it's the lowest it's been in decades and it's
down 94% from last year.
Oh, by the way, there is alsonow reverse border crossing,
paid for the coyotes.
For those of you that don'tknow right, those are the guides
.
Those are paid.
Those are the people that knowwhere the tunnels are, they know
where the crossing points are,they know all of those things
(24:12):
and they get paid to move peopleacross the border.
They are now being paid tobring people back to Mexico.
Wow, unbelievable People wouldrather pay that fee than the
potential fines that come withbeing here illegally.
Um, so there there is.
They have, like border patrolknows this is happening, that
people are paying to move backacross the border.
(24:35):
Yeah, it's absolutelyincredible and, of course, you
know if you paying to move backacross the border.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, it's absolutely incredible and, of course, you
know, if you were to listen towhat the left run media is
saying, it's because the weatherit's the weather Really Like.
The crossings are down becausethe weather like that is so
hateful, spiteful and, and youknow and beyond, resistant to
crediting the Trumpadministration with anything
(25:00):
whatsoever.
It's nothing that has to dowith the policies and Trump's
stance on this and the borderpatrol agents being able to do
their jobs.
Now it's the weather.
Yeah, I can't even stand themClay Well and so we're.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You know we're taking steps that the previous
administration and evenPresident Trump didn't take in
this administration, right, sothe wall is getting finished,
right, and it's going, and it'sgoing quickly.
But they're also, they movedactive duty and National Guard
military units to reinforce andhelp Border Patrol, military
units to reinforce and helpborder patrol.
And you know some, there arepeople out there who will say,
(25:39):
well, you're not supposed to useactive duty military forces
domestically.
You know, the continentalUnited States, blah, blah, blah,
blah.
Yes, pos comitatus.
I understand all that, believeme, but they, they're not being
used for that.
Right, what they're doing isthey're bolstering, they're
backing up, they're allowing.
You know, they're filling gaps.
(25:59):
Essentially, is what they'redoing?
Right, there's nothing illegalabout putting soldiers in a you
know I hate saying a picket line, but that's basically what it
boils down to.
You know, all strung out acrossthe border at the crossing
sites, and they can stand thereand not do anything except tell
border patrol, hey, there's oneover there, and then Border
Patrol goes and they arrest themand that's it.
That's all they're doing.
Aviation's doing the same thing.
(26:20):
They send fighters down there,all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So explain that a little bit to me.
So you can't use troops,essentially, but it's like you
can't use them against Americancitizens.
Correct, which is like a matterof course, but they're using
them against illegal aliens.
So they can't they still can'tphysically actively do anything
other than point them out.
(26:43):
Is that?
Am I understanding that?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
They have no arrest authority.
Okay, so you know, even when,when I was deployed multiple
times, all of us, you know GWATveterans, you know we would have
interactions and we would knowthrough bio bio data, whether
it's fingerprints or retinascans or whatever we would run
across known criminal terrorists, Right and?
(27:07):
And we had Coast Guardsmen withus.
Because Coast Guardsmen havearrest authority.
They are sworn officers of thelaw.
They can arrest people.
Active duty soldiers, unlessyou're a military police officer
, don't have that authority.
They are sworn officers of thelaw.
They can arrest people.
Active duty soldiers, unlessyou're a military police officer
, don't have that option.
We don't have that ability.
So they're being used tobolster BPS.
They're letting BPS do the work, along with whatever other
(27:29):
federal agencies are down therehelping, but they don't have
arrest.
I don't even think they havedetention authority and really
you don't even think they havedetention authority.
So and and really you, youdon't want them getting involved
with that.
That was actually a bigdiscussion a few years ago, my
hometown city of Chicago, youknow, the murder rate had gotten
so bad.
They were talking about puttingarmed, armed soldiers on street
(27:51):
corners, which is a horribleidea, but now they can be
national guardsmen and be giventhose types of authorities from
their governor.
Okay, right, so only nationalguardsmen.
National guardsmen becausethey're owned by the state.
Oh, but as soon as they'refederalized, as soon as the
federal government takes control, they don't have that ability
anymore okay and that makes Iagree, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We, that is not something we want.
That sets a precedent that canbe easily abused.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I mean that goes back to literally British
redcoats being housed inpeople's houses.
Yes, you know colonial days likethat.
It goes all the way back to pre, you know, pre-revolutionary
war, kind of stuff.
There's a reason for all of it,and for good reason.
So they're down there, they sothey're down there.
They're augmenting BPS, butthey're allowing those folks to
do their jobs, which is all partof why, you know, as our
headline says at the bottom, theborder crossings are down.
(28:41):
Right, they're catching one.
The interactions are lowerbecause everybody knows don't
come here anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right, the free, the gravy trains over with You're
not getting free stuff and atthe same, time, you know, bps is
allowed, they're being allowedto do their job and they're
arresting more people.
Yeah, yeah, that's great, youknow.
So you and I are kind of thesame in that we look at, you
know pretty much all of thesetopics and everything on a
intellectual, factual, practical, common sense way, and you know
(29:11):
the people on the left.
I mean, I feel like I'm abroken record saying the people
on the left, but I apologize,you know we can.
I can call them tons ofdifferent things, but this is,
this is where we are.
That group of people alwayslook at everything on the
emotional level, right thefeelings level, so like what
benefits them?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, excellent point .
Yeah, that's so true.
And you know, right now itbenefits them to be so
sympathetic to these poor.
What do they call them?
Undocumented migrants, illegalaliens.
And they drum up the whole.
You're separating families,you're?
You know they've been here andthey work and they pay taxes and
they do Pakistan.
(29:59):
They do.
That's who they focus on andyou know, hyper focus on, not
the fact that they are gettingrid of.
The Trump administration isgetting rid of.
You know rapists, murderers,gang members, violent criminals.
That's who they're getting ridof.
You know and, quite frankly, ifyou are in this country
illegally, whether you're agreat guy or a terrific woman,
(30:20):
if you're in this countryillegally, there needs to be a
consequence for that.
And sure, it is sad when it,when you think about a family
who's been here, you knowforever and ever.
But the flip side of that is,how many years did you have to
do things right, like you hadthe opportunities?
No, it's not easy.
No one is suggesting that it'seasy, but it is the process.
(30:41):
And for people who are eitherlegal immigrants or are the
children and grandchildren oflegal immigrants, who who did
everything the right way, thehard way, yeah, that that
sympathy factor doesn't wash.
So what would you say tosomebody?
I'm curious, what would you sayto somebody that somebody that
came to you with that argumentand said you know, oh, these
poor people like this border,trump's border policies are just
(31:04):
cruel and inhumane.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Like would you just tell them, I would tell you, I
would tell them and I have toldthem because I've had them come
to me with that.
Just like you, I have the sametype of you know, interactions
with people with opposingviewpoints.
And you know I had a discussionwith somebody about a, you know
, a husband and wife been herefor 30 years, still weren't
citizens, and they tried tojustify oh, the process is too
(31:26):
hard, no, it's not, it's not.
No, I don't buy it.
You'll never convince me of it,no way.
So I have no sympathy forsomebody who's been here for 30
years, still doesn't have theircitizenship, and got and deport
them.
Right, it's.
The truth is.
The truth is not being told inso many of these cases.
There's another one that's outthere right now where all the
(31:49):
headline is is that a dad?
I think he's from Maryland,right, somewhere, maybe not
Maryland, but no, it is Maryland.
He got wrongfully deported andnow the administration can't
find him and bring him back.
Well, he didn't.
And all it says is like a dad.
And the reality is he wasinvolved in human trafficking.
He was a known member of, Ithink, ms-13.
(32:11):
He had a warrant out for hisarrest, right?
So yes, he was.
You know, he had a green card,ok, but he violated law.
So, sorry, got to go Right.
No, he wasn't an illegalimmigrant.
He wasn't.
He had a green card, he wasdoing all, but he violated the
law.
Get out Right.
Same thing, but again.
You know these people.
(32:31):
You know the left manipulatesthe system.
They try to manipulate youremotions, separating families.
They don't talk about the300,000 kids that we talked
about a few weeks ago, who gotlost in the system.
They don't talk about them.
Where's?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
their horror and outrage over that, Because that,
to me, is one of the mosthorrific things we were talking
about hundreds of thousands ofchildren gone.
Nobody knows, Nobody canaccount for where they are.
These are kids that were loadedonto cargo planes in the middle
of the night and dropped off inyou know upstate New York, you
(33:08):
know in the dead of night, andtrekked out into the woods,
basically, and just gone.
Where's the outreach for that?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
yeah, and listen again, it's all about
manipulating emotions.
You know that, and we're goingto talk about the sect death
here in a minute.
But this is part right.
He just I don't know if you sawthis so he just got a new
tattoo on the bottom of hisbicep.
I did, I did arabic and I think, I think, I think it says
infidel or it says non-believer.
It says something like that,right, yeah, which I hate to
(33:39):
break it to people.
I saw a whole bunch of those,um, you know, throughout the
years in global war on terror,those things are everywhere, um,
but the sect def's got it onhis arm and everybody's like
blast, just blasting him and oh,by the way, the same people are
saying, well, and you'veprobably seen this too just
because they have ms-13 tattoosdoesn't mean like, that's not
(34:01):
that, that doesn, that's noproof of guilt, but the sect
def's got a tattoo.
That means he hates Muslims.
And so they'll use emotion,they'll anger, whatever it is,
to try and get their way andthey just continue to look
foolish.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And the only advice, the onlyadvice you can, you know, give
to anyone on the right who iswatching this and experiencing
this and doesn't have theplatform or the comfort level or
even the knowledge base tofight back against them, you
know, I would tell you that theeasiest thing you can do is to
(34:39):
simply not engage with theiremotional warfare, and you know
that that's.
If anybody could take somethingaway from this.
I would say it's got to be that, like, do not fall for the
emotional black blackmail andthe warfare that they unleash on
you.
And I would love if I thought asingle liberal or leftist would
watch the show with a, you know,open mind.
(35:01):
You know I'd love to say tothem geez, can you just give
discernment a try?
Like, try a little bit to takethe pause and say wait a minute.
You know, how do I know thatthis is true and accurate?
Does that make sense?
How is that even possible?
Like, question it just a littlebit, you know.
And the thing, question it justa little bit, you know.
(35:36):
And the thing, the thing that Ido that I honestly dislike
doing the most for show prep, isgoing to read, read and watch
what they are saying what theirperspective is, dispute it.
You know, like I just wish theywould.
But there's a gross sayingsomething about wishing in one
hand and something else inanother.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Right, see which one fills up quicker.
Yes, yeah, and listen, you andI I'm not a Hegseth fan We've
been saying this.
I want them to be successful.
Yes, you know, unfortunately wecould have had a show last week
about the entire signal thing.
Right, you know, we missed that, sorry folks.
Oh, by the way, we haven't saidit yet, it's Wednesday For us
(36:10):
it's Wednesday 530 Eastern Time.
We started recording.
All right, we're about 38 or sominutes in.
Ok, so it is Wednesday, butlast week week we could have
talked about the sloppiness ofthe signal, you know, with the
national security advisor, withthe vice president and the
Atlantic, you know, and all ofthat.
Okay, and I am one that was notHegsis.
(36:31):
They're all responsible in thesense that they probably should
have checked it.
Who was on the list?
Right?
Sure, you know we could talkabout signal Signal's been
around for quite a few years.
I personally am, you know wecould talk about Signal Signal's
been around for quite a fewyears.
I personally am, you know.
I have a Signal account.
I've been on there for a while.
I have talked sensitive notclassified sensitive information
on there a number of times.
It is probably the most securething there is, but it is not
(36:53):
for classified information.
Oh, by the way, they didn'tpass any classified information
in that chat.
However, it was sloppy, right,and truthfully, I know people
that probably would have gotfired for doing exactly what
they did.
Okay, but you know, secretaryHegseth this week has now, you
know, his new thing is isleveling the physical
(37:14):
requirements for combat relatedjobs within the military and
listen, this is one of thetoughest nuts to crack.
(37:36):
Yeah, in all jobs to females.
You know, the military at thatpoint still had gender based,
you know sex based standards forphysical fitness.
I can tell you, throughout myentire career, when I first came
in the army, the army'sphysical fitness test was
pushups, sit ups and a two milerun.
Every single category had adifferent and age had a
(37:58):
different and age had adifferent standard for men and
women.
They revised that same fitnesstest about 99, 2000,.
Somewhere in there.
Actually they flipped it overCommonsensically, the original
one.
The younger you were, theharder it was.
And then as kids became fatterand slower and didn't do as much
(38:19):
physical activity.
They figured out that if youhad been in the army for five or
six or seven years you were inbetter shape than most 18 year
olds and there was a weird bellcurve.
But what they did do wasbecause males and females
biologically have essentiallythe same core, abdominal muscle
structure and capability.
They there was one standard forsteps there was no male, female
(38:42):
.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
There was one standard right Just for sit-ups.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Just for sit-ups, the run was different, Push-ups was
different.
And then, before I retired, theArmy came out with this Army
Combat Fitness Test which theykind of modeled after something
the Marine Corps does, which wasa little bit more of the
lifting things, throwing things,obstacle course, obstacle
course, you know, kind ofoverall combat fitness, dragging
heavy weight and that kind ofstuff.
(39:05):
The problem is is that you it'svery difficult, even as an
infantryman, to say these arethe strength, the physical
fitness requirements to do yourjob.
It's hard to put that in a boxand say these are the minimum
requirements.
And listen, folks, this is fromthe Secretary of Defense's
perspective about males andfemales in combat roles.
(39:26):
Don't take it any other way.
That's what he's talking about.
Now.
I will tell you that I've beenaround a number of females in my
time who could rock, carry aheavy rock, they could run, they
could do all the things that Icould do, without question.
Now, those are few and farbetween, but they are out there.
Okay, yeah, the hard part is tosay these are the requirements
(39:50):
for the job.
And then, oh, by the way, youknow, if anybody, whoever can
meet those standards, can be inRight Now, I will tell you
there's a lot of guys out therewho can't meet those standards
and they're going to get.
They're going to get theirfeelings hurt and they're going
to get their heart brokenbecause they're not going to
make it.
The question is is when you havea anyone, male or female,
doesn't matter who it is.
They joined the military.
(40:11):
Maybe they meet those standardsduring basic training or
bootcamp.
Then they get to their unit.
They're there for maybe a yearand then they no longer meet
that standard.
So do they get fired?
Do they get kicked out?
Do you send them to anotherlocation?
Do you give them a new job inthe military?
Oh, by the way, now you'respending more money to retrain
them.
This is not as easy as set anew standard.
(40:34):
It's not that simple.
Oh, by the way, he only gavethe service chiefs 60 days to
figure this out.
They've been trying to figurethis out for 25 years.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
They're not going to do it.
Yeah, it just seems like such amatter of course, such a
baseline expectation to say,yeah, absolutely, men, women
doesn't matter.
If you want to try this, if youwant to join the military, you
(41:04):
simply have to be able to fitthe fitness standard that's
required.
This is the standard.
Doesn't matter if you're maleor female, if you can hit it,
you're good.
It's so simple.
But then, of course, they haveto make everything more
complicated and difficultbecause of feelings and being
(41:26):
nice, right, nice.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
That's part of it too .
But again, this is veryspecific about combat roles,
like things I used to do as aninfantryman or special
operations or whatever.
Like you know, in the old days,they just literally drew a line
and they said women are notallowed to do these jobs because
we're not going to spend themoney to try and find, you know,
the females that can.
We're also going to, not, we'renot going to make, you know,
(41:57):
concessions for them, forbathrooms and showers and
billeting and you know thosekinds of things.
That was the position.
We're just not going to do it.
Yeah, and then President Obamaopened that door, which you know
it's hard to close, pandora'sbox.
But so now we're kind of caughtin this thing where it's like,
well, we're not telling themthey can't arbitrarily.
What we are telling them isthey've got to meet these
physical standards, which oh, bythe way, are going to be pretty
arbitrary.
And if you're told to fix it in60 days, there's no science
(42:19):
behind that.
That's an arbitrary fix.
Yes, so you know none of thisstuff.
It doesn't.
It's not an easy fix, I do.
I don't envy the service chiefsbecause they're going to get
jammed up on this in a hurry.
And again, I think this is abad, this is a bad optic and
it's a bad look for the sec def.
It's a very one of my big fearsabout him taking this job is he
(42:41):
has a very narrow view and aneven more narrow experience and
he's very biased and he's alsovery inexperienced and
uneducated as to how themilitary really works.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
So is your biggest bone of contention with this the
60 days or the ruling ingeneral?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Well, I think what he told them to do was figure out
what the physical standards arefor those combat related jobs.
Okay, that you, you can't.
You could put 50 people in aroom that have all been in the
army for 30 years and you'regoing to get 50 different
opinions on what therequirements are to do those
jobs.
Okay, so you know.
(43:19):
And then, what the requirementsare to do those jobs?
Okay, so you know.
And then, oh, by the way,you've got to go.
Well, it's one standard, but isit?
Is it one standard?
Okay, we're talking gender, butis it the same standard by age?
Like me, as an infantryman, Iretired.
You know I was what?
46 when I retired.
Right, I'm not doing the samething.
(43:39):
An 18 year old is doing, Sure,sure.
So is it one standard all ages?
Is it one standard by agegroups?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like, and again, if you've gotsomebody who doesn't meet the
standard, do you just kick themout of the military?
Do you kick them out of theirjob?
Do you kick them?
You know, there's the questionthat he posed, or the challenge
that he made to the servicechiefs.
Seems very simple, but inpractice, there are so many
(44:04):
layers and levels to this.
160 days is an irrationalnumber.
But two, this is like you'retalking about personnel
decisions, you're talking aboutthere's.
This goes pretty deep.
I think it was just not a theway that this this was done.
I think again was a veryimmature way for the secretary
to handle.
It Should have been done very.
(44:25):
If this is what he really wants, he should have done it very,
very differently.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, how could he backpedal from this, because it
sounds like he's going to needto backpedal to some degree.
How is he going to be able todo that in safe face?
Speaker 3 (44:38):
I don't know truthfully, and I think
immediately following the signaldebacle he kind of stepped in a
little bit.
This is two missteps in a row,so it's not going to look good.
I think probably, if he wantsto deflect because Congress is
going to come after him for this, there's going to be Congress
(44:58):
members that are going to comeafter him for this and if he
wants to deflect, all he has todo is turn around and look at
Congress and go listen, you guyscan't even agree that women
should be part of selectiveservice and they should be
drafted.
So don't let's not even talkabout standards for service and
just you know, tell them to goaway.
It doesn't work that way.
That'll buy him some time, butI think this is a dead end road
and he's going to have a hardtime figuring this one out.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And it's going to look bad.
What do you think is going onbehind closed doors with the
service chief?
He doesn't want any like I'mthinking with between Trump and
Hegseth.
Like do you think this is isgoing to cause any bad blood, I
wonder, because Trump doesn'twant any missteps and missteps
happening here and there.
We've got.
We didn't put it on our listand so we won't really talk
about it today, but maybe nextweek.
I would like to talk about itas I get more information A
little.
Well, it's not really a littlebit, but there's some RFK Jr
(45:49):
scandal brewing under thesurface of things and it's
probably going to bust out loudrelatively soon unless they're
able to contain it and dosomething about it.
But you know two potentialproblems, I guess we could say
in the administration, and thisis a time where he really needs
(46:12):
zero problems.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I think.
I think Hegzeth is going to behis first firing.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, really Wow Okay .
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, I think, and I cause I don't.
I don't classify um Stefanik.
You know he asked her to pullher nomination for the UN
ambassador, but he did that to,you know, to help maintain
control of Congress.
Every seat's important at thispoint and that's why he asked
her to back out of that.
I don't consider that a firingfor poor performance or anything
else, but I do think thatHegseth is going to be the first
one to get fired in theadministration.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Okay, wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, well, I'm going to bookmark this episode in
case I in.
I'm going to bookmark thisepisode in case I need to pull
out that clip and do our toldyou so.
Yeah, clay's not.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
You haven't gotten him wrong, you've called him.
I'm lucky like that.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, we'll call it luck Sure.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
We'll call it luck.
Well, at least I didn't have toendure 25 plus hours of court.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Oh, come on, I mean seriously this guy.
Five plus hours, of course.
Oh, come on, I mean seriouslythis guy.
First of all, I I generallycannot stand even the sight of
him.
He is such a arrogant, pompous,condescending idiot is what he
is.
I mean that's, that is thenicest thing I can come up with
to say about him yeah, you know,and this wasn't even a
(47:29):
filibuster.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
That's what kills me about this.
Like, yeah, you know, the theprevious record.
He was very proud that he brokethe record.
By the way.
Yeah, so stupid, so stupid.
The previous record was held asbecause of filibuster.
Right, that wasn't even whatthis was.
This was marathoning and it wasgrandstanding.
Yeah, you to talk about how youstand for democracy.
(47:50):
Pardon my mouth but it's allright, it is.
It ended Congress's work for theweek Like they're doing nothing
else.
Yeah, they all went home afterthat disaster, so you know he
did it.
Like you said stand fordemocracy, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Um, but you know they had some things on the docket
that they were supposed to voteon this week that they didn't
get to yeah, the whole thing isabsurd and, and I'll be honest,
I don't know enough about thatprocess to understand why they
get to do that.
Do you?
Do you know?
Because?
Know, because, if not, I will,I will find it and I will stick
(48:31):
it in the show notes.
Do you know?
I thought I did?
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, I thought I did and it had to do with the
filibuster and I and that I get.
You know, that's kind of one ofthose like I'm going to talk
until I'm blue in the face andmake it painful for everybody so
that we delay this vote as longas we can, right, you know, in
the sense of like, maybe we candrum up some opposition, we can
flip the numbers a little bit.
You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, he was just doing it because he can.
Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
This one I don't get at all.
So 25 hours, 25 hours, and likeeverything else, there's some
dishonesty in this, because hehad two other people that came
up during those 25 hours thattalked on his behalf, probably
for a bathroom break.
Oh right, you know.
So he got a little bit ofrespite.
(49:16):
But here's the other thing thatnobody's talking about.
Did you hear that his drivergot arrested in the middle of
all this?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Oh, I did hear that.
Yeah, what the heck was that?
Oh, because he brought a gun.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
He was unlicensed Booker walked him around past
security.
He had a gun on him in thebuilding.
Oh, by the way, booker, totallyanti 2A, totally anti 2A.
But you know he gets securityillegally armed security inside
(49:47):
the Capitol.
You know, and that guy gotarrested, you know, know.
So again, it's more hypocrisyfrom the biggest hypocrites on
the floor.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, how typical you know,with their, their two way stance
, every single one of them.
Yeah, they're totally againstit, but yet they're all.
They're all protected by armedguards or bodyguards and
everything you know.
It's despicable.
I remember that with uh uh whatwas her name?
beetlejuice there from a light,uh, lighthouse yes, lightfoot,
(50:15):
laurie lightfoot, yeah Iremember that distinctly, that
she had, like, essentially,taken an entire uh police detail
out of impoverished communitiesand put them on.
You know, protecting her,protecting her home, because
there were some threats againsther or something.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
I know some cops, I know a handful of Chicago cops
and she was the most despisedwoman in the city and oh, by the
way, they knew all the dirtysecrets.
Like her, lori Lightfoot andher wife had knockdown, drag out
, screaming domestic violencekind of stuff going on in the
mayoral mansion that all thepolice kind of you know turn a
(50:52):
blind eye to kind of stuff.
But they hated her, absolutelyhated her.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
And I'm sure she was awful to them, because that's
the other part of their, their,their pattern.
You know that they have.
It's just the.
Again, I go back to what I wassaying about Cory Booker.
Again, I go back to what I wassaying about Cory Booker.
They all have this arrogance tothem.
This rules for thee but not forme attitude.
(51:17):
The Clintons, the Clintons didit.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yes, that's where it all started.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think you're absolutely right, because that's really like I'm
thinking about it now.
That's where I really rememberit, seeing it clearly that there
was definitely this I don'tknow like hierarchy of, or at
least an attitude of hierarchy.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
And I know some guys.
I know some guys who flew themaround.
Yeah, personally know some guyswho flew in the Marine
Helicopter Squadron, that HMXone.
I think that's what.
Hmx one is the MarineSquadronter Squadron, that HMX-1
.
I think that's what.
Yeah, hmx-1 is the MarineSquadron that flies them around.
I knew some guys that flewthere.
I knew some guys who were WhiteHouse comms during the Clinton
administration.
I knew one guy who was SecretService.
(52:01):
She hated them, hated them all.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah she was nasty to them right.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, and treated them like complete garbage.
So that's where all that stuffstarted.
It's just been carried forwardall the way through.
Oh, by the way, we'll talkabout this.
Next week.
There's an Obama book comingout.
Have you heard about this?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
No, this is new to me .
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
It lays out everything how he tanked, or was
aiming to tank, kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Wow, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Kamala Harris.
Wow, oh, I can't wait.
We'll talk about that one nextweek.
Yeah, yeah, I heard that thismorning.
But yeah, there's a tell-allcoming out that that'll be,
that'll be very, veryinteresting.
But that all it all leadsforward, from the Clintons right
through even I hate to say thisthrough Bush, through Obama,
through Biden.
You know it's all the samething.
And Booker and this guy, thissecurity driver guy, it's the
same thing.
(52:52):
I do whatever I want.
You're not going to hold meaccountable, but they did.
They arrested him, they did.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah.
Yeah, they picked the wrongadministration to be pulling
that garbage.
Like really you think you'regoing to get away with that now?
Maybe you know last year youcould.
No problem, I'm sure they didBased on that.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
I'm sure they did.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Based on that.
There's no question about it.
They're all walking around withguns on their hips and
everything, unless you're aconservative doing that.
Well, and listen, there are,there are.
I have nothing against that perse.
I mean there are conservativeswho do carry in the Capitol,
blah, blah, blah.
This guy was not licensed, hewas not authorized to carry.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, that's the key right there yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Again, it's the hypocrisy.
They violated a bunch ofsecurity protocols and policies
and oh, by the way, you've got aguy who's anti two way stance
on top of everything else.
So you know, that's.
That's the issue there.
It's not about the guns.
Believe me, I have no issuewith that.
It's just that guy in thatsituation.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Oh, my goodness, we got acouple of minutes left.
Are we squeezing in this?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
last one.
We can do this.
This is so, folks, this is a.
This is a big deal.
Um, because you know the U S?
Um is is.
Since post-World War II we havehad an alliance with Japan and
Japan has been very content,very much like Israel, with a
defense force, not aable,offensive-minded military right.
(54:13):
Israel has the IDF, japan hasthe JDF.
Part of that was post-World WarII, like, hey, you're not
allowed to have a deployablemilitary right.
So they haven't and they'vebeen very content with that.
But it's an advanced.
They have a very advancedmilitary.
We have maintained US Forces.
Japan, because it's a leapingoff point for us in the Pacific,
(54:35):
has been for years Okinawa, youknow other places like that.
We've had Marine bases, airForce bases.
We have stayed out of Japan fora long time.
What we haven't had is a warfighting headquarters in Japan
with eyes on China, which isexactly what this is.
We are establishing a new,larger headquarters, and I say
(54:57):
larger in the sense of I thinkwhat's there now is a two star.
I think they're elevating it toa three star headquarters with
eyes on Japan or eyes on China.
So if the Pacific does escalate,they can flow forces in.
We can flow forces in.
We've already gottenestablished headquarters,
communications are there, all ofthose things are there.
Right, it's tied into theforces we've got in Korea and
(55:20):
those kinds of things.
So, and Japan's on board withthis.
Oh, by the way, if you guysdon't know your history, the
Japanese, the Koreans and theChinese all hate each other from
centuries of conquering eachother and that doesn't go away
in that culture.
So Japan's on board with this.
It's the first time that theyhave agreed or been involved in
(55:41):
any type of offensive militarymindset since 1945.
So it's a very interesting,that's one to watch.
I think it's good because theUS is now saying China is a
priority Right, which we haven'tdone as well as we should have
over the last couple of years.
So it's a big deal, it's a bigmove for our military to do this
(56:02):
.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
And of course you know, to state the obvious, the
left is melting down, that youknow they're going to cause some
major fullon conflict betweenChina and us and all that stuff.
They're sounding the alarms, asusual.
The panic bells are ringing andI got to admit I'm just sitting
here going no, I'm not tooworried about it.
Trump's got it, trump's goingto handle it.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
It's all good, it's not something to be concerned
about.
It's actually.
Listen, folks, if you want tolook at it this way, this is the
exact same thing as having athree-star headquarters in
Europe or a four-starheadquarters in Europe or in
Africa or responsible for theMiddle East.
This is geographic, but it'sfocused on China.
(56:46):
It's just precautionary.
This is not a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
China.
It's just precautionary.
This is not a bad thing, yeah,yeah, well.
Well, certainly we had a lot ofthings to watch, right.
Lots of things, that prettymuch everything we talked about.
We're keeping an eye on I'm I'mnow thanks to you.
I'm most curious what's goingto happen with Hegseth, as, as
things progress and move alongbut you probably have something
there, because you know it'sthat three strikes and you're
out, thing right.
I mean, if he has one morething go wrong, that could be,
(57:13):
it could be a problem for himfor sure.
So I'll be curious to see whathappens.
No, no doubt about it, andwe're going to have so many fun
things to talk about for nextweek.
We'll have the things that wedon't even know about yet.
But you know there's going tobe stuff and things.
There's just no question aboutit.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Yeah, it never changes, it always moves.
You know we, we always getsomething new.
I mean, we even we pinged, youknow, whatever that the book,
you know the Obama book we'regoing to talk about that next
week most likely.
But you know, there'll be 50more things that we'll have to
choose.
From that I'll have to choosefrom on Tuesday morning.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
It's on you.
It's on you.
We'll see if RFK Jr makes thecut next week.
I technically don't even wantto talk about it.
I know I'm talking about itright now, but I technically
don't even want to talk about ituntil there's just more
information to talk about.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
You're ahead of me on this one, because I honestly
have no clue what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah, it's a little like.
I don't want to call itunderground, but it's.
I guess it's a little bitunderground.
So I I'm hoping that it'snothing to be overly concerned
about.
I also, next week we got to tryand squeeze in.
I want to talk about the dailywire.
This is a very, veryinteresting stuff, so I'm sure
it's not going anywhere.
The story will be, you know, ifanything, it'll be bigger next
week than it is right now.
(58:31):
So much to talk about, guys.
We appreciate you, as always,hanging out with us.
I know Clay already told you.
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I appreciate you every week.
We're glad to be back.
One week, one week off wasenough.
Probably too much almost.
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Oh my goodness, well, well,well.
The Tesla situation has notdecreased at all.
It's still insane.
And we're not talking aboutrising car prices or EV tax
credits.
We're talking about the actualorchestrated violence and
attacks against Elon Musk'sTesla brand.
Uh, stars, not even, I mean.
Obviously it's because it's hisum, but attacking other
people's vehicles is is reallywhat it comes down to, and I
(02:53):
think it's kind of ironic, clay,I don't know about you, but I
think it's kind of ironic thatthe predominant buyer of Tesla's
have been left-leaning people,so they're torching and keying
and vandalizing each other'svehicles.
The stupidity right.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, listen, I've seen it.
You've probably seen it too.
There's actual pictures outthere where the owners will take
one of those soap markers, likekids, write on happy graduation
or happy birthday, and they'llwrite on the window purchased in
2020, you know before you know,owner is a Democrat, whatever
Just to try and protectthemselves.
(03:34):
But you know, it would makesense and I'm not advocating,
obviously, for any of this, butit would make sense.
The attack on the dealershipsand the dealerships only it
would make sense.
The attack on the dealershipsand the dealerships, only the
attack on the charging stationsdoesn't make any sense.
And the attack on personallyowned vehicles certainly doesn't
make any sense.
And I understand the Cybertruckseems to be catching the bulk of
(03:55):
it because it's the newestmodel.
The Cybertruck came out duringthe Biden administration.
Most of those were pre-orderedand were in possession of the
owner before President Trump wasin office, before Elon was
running Doge.
So you're right, they'rebeating each other up, they're
causing each other heartache andit's over.
Just this lashing, this very,very immature lashing out.
(04:18):
That makes no sense at all.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, and it's the typical response and reaction
that they tend to have, and ofcourse, I'm generalizing, but
it's pretty stinking accurate,you know.
So here's the thing, thoughlike the as usual, like the left
run media, downplays it, barelytalks about it and treats it as
(04:43):
if it's like isolated incidents.
Right, and now Elon Muskhimself is coming out and saying
that he actually knows who isbehind.
I don't know if this is himtrying to scare, it's a scare
tactic, or if he really knows.
I don't personally know.
But now he's saying I knowwho's behind it and we're coming
for him.
So you know these areorchestrated attacks from
(05:06):
somebody with obviously a lot ofmoney.
And, of course, my, my mindgoes right to Soros.
You know Soros backed right, um, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, it's, um, you know, uh, a lot of it is, you
know, lefty crazy.
You know they still haven'tfigured out that every one of
these vehicles has nine, sevencameras or nine cameras on it.
You can't pick up on it, youcan't scuff it, dent it, key it,
which seems to be thepredominant thing, although
there has been some spray paintand some other more permanent,
you know, kind of stuff, butthose, you can't escape that
(05:38):
stuff, but it.
And it seems that people thatkeep getting caught are the low
hanging fruit, they're thedumbest ones that haven't
figured that stuff out yet.
And it seems that people thatkeep getting caught are the low
hanging fruit, they're thedumbest ones that haven't
figured that stuff out yet.
But the bigger stuff, the burneddown dealerships, the attacks
on the charging stations, youknow there's even people now
that are test driving them andreally putting them through some
painful paces when they're testdriving and doing damage to
(05:59):
them as part of the test drive,and that is the kind of stuff
that you're talking about andeverybody's mind anybody with a
half a brain goes to Sorosbecause you know it's laundered
four ways from Sunday.
It's Soros' money and it goesto somebody else and it gets to
Antifa and then Antifa findssomebody and they pay them and
you know.
So it's all of those methodsthat we saw, you know 2020, you
(06:21):
know during COVID and GeorgeFloyd and all of that stuff.
This is the same thing, right.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Oh, absolutely.
These are the predominantlypaid agitators who listen.
I don't know if they get bailedout afterwards or not, but
they're probably getting paidwhat they consider to be a
reasonable sum of money to dothese things.
And you're absolutely right.
You know you watch those videos, those camera videos from the
(06:48):
Teslas, and you know I mean I'mgoing to try not to be overly
mean, but the people that aredoing this and then getting like
confronted after I saw Love itRight.
I saw did you see the one theother day?
It was an elderly guy and Imean, yes, yeah, had the quickly
right, I saw.
Did you see the one the otherday?
It was an elderly guy and Imean, yes, yeah had the exact
same jacket on did you just keyat tesla the other day.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
You're on video.
Yeah, this is the guy.
You just keyed a tesla.
You got a video online.
I just saw it.
It's all over the fucking face.
Uh, you have the media.
Yes, you did.
You keyed a tesla in a parkinglot somewhere around here.
(07:58):
What do you got to say about?
Said I plainly saw you doing it.
You pulled up.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, he's like I don't know what you're talking
about.
Like you're on camera.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
How do you not know this at?
this point at least.
Yeah, you know, yes, I agreewith you.
I think those are definitelylike the low hanging fruit,
people who just don't you know,they're just reactive people
that you know, the media and theleftist, the Democrats we'll
call them because that's whatthat party is now.
They're just all leftist peoplefor the most part.
(08:29):
They say be angry and they'relike okay, I'm angry, what am I
angry about?
Oh, it doesn't matter, I'lljust be angry.
And, you know, do destructivethings because you told me to.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's.
Unfortunately, though, it'sescalating, and I say that it's
escalating to the individualowner, so that they had the
dealership that got attacked,that got firebombed, right, a
bunch of cars got burned on that.
That person got arrestedalready.
And then you had the other one.
I don't know if you saw thislike the front of the dealership
.
They came out with paintballguns, plastered it with a bunch
of, like maroon colored paint.
(09:02):
But what you're having now thisis where things are going to get
very, very dangerous is thatyou've got, you know, protesters
.
I don't know another word otherthan lunatics.
Yeah, you've got these lunaticsand they're attacking people on
the roadway.
It's a it's a road ragesituation.
So they're, they're cuttingthem off, they're they're kind
of leaning into them in traffic.
They're doing all those sortsof things, and thankfully,
(09:26):
nothing has escalated to a pointof real violence yet.
But as this continues, if thisdoesn't get brought under
control, that's exactly what'sgoing to happen.
You're going to have aconservative concealed carry
holder who has got a gun in hisor her vehicle, who gets rammed
on the highway, and then you,you know, they pull over and a
(09:46):
lunatic jumps out of theirvehicle to attack them because
they drive a Tesla and somebodyis going to get hurt.
It's going to, and I meanthere's going to be a fatality.
Somebody is going to get shotover.
This.
It's gonna.
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you're wrong, you
know in.
I mean, I don't think you'rewrong, you know, and I mean I
don't know what the deterrent is, because I think they're
already getting charges, orfelony charges, I think they I
don't know if they can and arecharging every time they catch
somebody.
If they're charging them withdomestic terrorism, if they can,
they should.
Other than that, I don't know,but I keep hearing the term
(10:21):
felony charges againstvandalizing these vehicles,
because I think it's becausethey're escalating it to being
domestic terrorism, which it is.
It is 100%.
I don't care who disagrees withme.
This is domestic terrorism.
It's organized, politicallymotivated, organized attacks.
And, yeah, I mean prosecutethem to the fullest extent of
(10:44):
the law.
It's the only deterrent I canthink of.
You know that that might havesome kind of impact, you know,
unless they're getting bailedout by, you know, soros backed.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, and you're right.
So this is there's no deterrentright now, and again it
continues to escalate, which Ihate to keep saying this, but it
is going to escalate to thepoint of a fatality here sooner
or later.
But you touched on it beforeand I think the biggest thing is
that no one in the media and noone on the left from their
(11:17):
political leadership is sayingstop doing this, stop doing this
.
There is no hey, enough isenough.
Hey, we understand you'refrustrated.
Hey, don't do this, stop doingthis.
There is no hey, enough isenough.
Hey, we understand you'refrustrated.
Hey, don't do this.
You know nobody is saying thatout loud.
The media is certainly notsaying it, right, and then, of
course, the Democraticleadership is certainly not
saying it.
So when you don't have that,you know that example being set
(11:39):
you don't have that leadershipquality that says OK, this is
absurd, we've had enough of this.
I know you're mad, stop doingit.
None of that is happening.
So this is just going to keepgoing and again it's going to
turn in.
Something tragic is going tohappen and it's it's going to be
pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Right, and you know, and even worse than them, not
condemning the actions and thebehavior, they are absolutely
fueling the fire and spurringthem on.
I mean, they're you know, yougot your Cory Bookers, who we're
going to be talking aboutshortly, and your Jasmine
Crockett's and your AOCs and youknow all of these.
You know flaming idiotsencouraging and don't forget
(12:12):
Maxine Waters, who's alwaysshaking her bony finger at
somebody, telling them to youknow, interrupt their dinners
and don't let them rest and goto their homes, and all of the
things.
Don't let them rest and go totheir homes, and all of the
things.
You know they're not justignoring it, they're encouraging
it, which is actually evenworse.
Gone are the days where youknow politicians would like a
(12:33):
whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know our leaders.
You can have these opposingviews, you can get pretty nasty
and spicy about it, but when itcrossed the line into violence
and destruction and you knowriots and all of those things,
there was a time I know nobodycan actually remember it anymore
because it's so far back in ourhistory now there was a time
when you know they'd go whoa,okay, hang on, everybody's got
(12:53):
to calm down, rein it in, let'skeep this civil.
And that is not happening.
And I find that to be, you know, truly the most appalling part
of all of it, that the peoplewho are supposed to be leading
by example for our country arebehaving the way they're doing,
and I just want to see sternconsequence for it.
(13:16):
And I feel like we're notseeing it.
You know we're getting a lot offinger wagging.
I want to see Mike Johnson domore censoring of these people,
and I know I'm kind of driftingoff a little bit on this one,
but you know this is kind ofwhere it stems from, because
this is who's part ofencouraging this kind of
behavior.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, and, and really there's.
There are so many consequencesto this that aren't being
considered.
All of these people that are,that are conducting this.
You know domestic terrorism.
I won't even say vandalism,because it's not.
You are a hundred percent right, this is domestic terrorism.
Oh, by the way, attorneygeneral Pam Bondi says the same
thing.
Right, that's right, she does.
Yeah, so these people don't.
(13:54):
I don't know if they'rethinking through this, I don't
know if they even care, but assoon as you are a felon which is
what this turns into you can'tvote anymore Like so, you're,
that's gone, right.
You, you know your earningpotential goes down
significantly, right, like,there, there's a lot.
You can be, as you know, upsetas you want about this.
You know you don't likepresident Trump, you don't like
(14:16):
Elon Musk, but as soon as youventure into this criminality
which is what's going on you are.
This is not protesting, right?
This is not peaceful protesting.
You are ending portions of yourlife, whether you agree with it
or not.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So the consequences, like you say, I don't think our
people are really realizing howsevere they can be.
The problem is they're also notinstantaneous.
You know, with court, you knowour justice system, the way that
it works, it does take time andthese sorts of things.
Some of these people are goingto get prosecuted and know the
you know the end game or the endstate of all of this.
For a year, maybe two RightAppeals will last a long time,
(14:54):
but you know they're going tolose a lot, especially the
people caught on tape.
There's no there.
There is no recourse for that.
You know there's no gettingaround that.
It's not a case of mistakenidentity.
Case in point the bald guy withthe jacket, literally wearing
the same clothes, literally.
(15:14):
So yeah, it's going to getworse before it gets better.
And oh, by the way, they arehurting Elon Musk, not
necessarily by the vandalism forthe cars and even the vandalism
for the dealership.
The other piece component tothis is you know, tesla stocks
have dropped, tesla purchaseshave dropped and with the stocks
I saw this just yesterday thereis a component inside of
(15:36):
Hollywood where people arebuying the stock and then
selling it at a much lower price, driving the price down and
then selling it at a much lowerprice, driving the price down.
So they're purposely tanking thevalue of Tesla itself, you know
, as a form of political protest.
I would much rather have themdo that right than the violent
part of it.
Right, yeah, this is this.
(16:00):
Doing that is the same thing asnot buying Budweiser.
It's the same thing as all ofthose other.
You know, stop shopping atTarget.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing as as allof those other.
You know, stop shopping attarget.
It's the same thing, a littlemore dastardly, I think, but you
know it's a nonviolent protestto to Elon Musk and his company.
Okay, fine, it is what it is,but that's much better than
burning down dealerships and,you know, potentially hurting
people and and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Um, you know all of it isdisgusting and I do agree if
you're going to do it, if you'regoing to make your, your
statement in your protest.
You know, you, you do, you knowit's.
It's like all of those thingsyou do with your wallet, you do
it with your vote, you do it ina civilized you know.
Just be civilized, that's all Imean.
(16:41):
I don't, I don't have to agreewith what they're doing by any
means and and I honestly do, andI don't know about you, you
know, and I know some peoplewill balk at the idea of, like,
feeling bad for Elon Muskbecause he is a
multi-billionaire and he's goingto be perfectly fine.
But on the, you know, on theemotional level, on the humanity
level, I mean, this guy wastheir darling, like he was
(17:04):
beloved by, by the left andbecause, because he changed his
mind on something, this is whathe gets, you know, and that's a
cautionary tale to every singlepublic figure on the left.
I mean, pay attention to whatthey're doing to this guy
because, say something out ofline, you know, get one little
(17:27):
fraction out of lockstep, andthis is what they do to you.
I mean that anyone would wantto be associated with that party
, and that mentality is beyondme absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And you and you've got the people who don't
consider or refuse to considerthe other things that he does
and has been doing.
I've actually, you know CharlieKirk I love watching the
Charlie Kirk clips, but you knowyou've got a lot of people that
will.
You know, a lot of college kidswill take their you know their
30 seconds of fame and talkabout how well Elon doesn't do
it.
It's all his employees, it'sall you know.
It's all this, it's all that.
(18:01):
But you even have, you know,like the ladies on the View were
, like I don't know, I don'tunderstand why we even have
SpaceX, like we have NASA, theydon't even understand that NASA
has not sent a manned mission tospace since 2011.
Right, it's been 14 years sinceNASA did that.
(18:22):
Everything else that's been donehas been through NASA, but NASA
has not launched anythingmanned into space in 14 years.
So you know, elon has thecapability, spacex has the
capability.
Oh, by the way, starlink, wecould talk about Starlink for
all of that.
Oh, by the way, those that arego the opposite political
(18:44):
direction, changing nothing else.
Yeah, tesla hasn't changed.
Spacex hasn't changed.
The only thing he did was hebought X and he let President
Trump back on X.
(19:06):
Yeah, but other than that, hisbusinesses have not changed.
No, and they still hate him.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, and they don't even get that.
They are the ones that pushedhim, yeah, to make this
reevaluation.
And it's so crazy too, when youthink about it.
Right, clay, you're talkingabout like one of the smartest
guys alive and innovator,creator all of these things.
They idolized him and itbaffles me that they wouldn't go
(19:31):
.
Huh, the guy that I idolize andthink is one of the smartest
humans on our planet right nowhe's changing his mind about
something.
Gee, maybe I should reevaluateand think about it and see, you
know what he's talking about.
And instead they're just likeno, oh, you know, the switch
goes off and they're like Elonbad, just like orange man bad
(19:52):
Elon bad.
It's so bizarre to me howcontrolled they are by the media
.
By the media, I mean, it's bythe media there, that is a
hundred percent politicians.
I mentioned them all the timebecause they're, they're part of
it too.
Um, but man, oh man, the powerthat the media has over these
people is mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yep, and that's again .
They're not.
You know they're not speakingout against the attacks on Tesla
they're not speaking about,period I.
Even the reporting on them isminimal.
So you know it's Elon's bad.
Musk is bad, bad, bad.
He's associated with Trump isbad.
Oh, by the way, he owns Tesla.
And then they move on tosomething else, right, and, and
(20:37):
that's how all of this works.
And again, it's orchestrated atmultiple echelons.
It does.
I firmly believe it starts withSoros and it works its way down
.
You know the money's beingmoved around, it's being
laundered, and that's how thosethings.
And then the bails being paidand fees are being paid and all
that other stuff.
So you know everything thatPresident Trump does, everything
(21:00):
that's associated with him,every person that is associated
with him, is a horrible humanbeing.
Yeah, nobody.
There's no respite there.
But that's the party of love.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Love and tolerance.
Love is love, be kind, coexist.
Every slogan cliche bumpersticker.
Every slogan cliche bumpersticker.
All them, and also the samepeople that I, you know and, as
you well know, uh, I am a.
I certainly would call myself avictim by any means, but I am a
(21:27):
recipient of that uh type ofhate and disgust and contempt
from them.
You know, just for having myopinions, that's it, it's all
you do.
Just have an opinion thatdoesn't go along with theirs and
they will come after you.
And I see people on the right,you know, conservative voices,
who are very moderate in theirdelivery, like, they're actually
(21:49):
very kind in the way that theyrelay the information, but
because the information thatthey're relaying or sharing, or
truths that they're sharing,don't align with what they think
, they just rip them to shredsand, of course, docks them.
You know you're talking aboutpeople who will expose where you
live, who your family membersare, attack your children on
(22:11):
social media.
Yeah, I mean, you're dealingwith people who, for whatever
reasons, are beyond unhinged andit is scary.
And I totally get why peoplechoose not to get involved, you
know.
But this is and I've gone backto this many times over the
years that, you know, this iswhy we're at where we're at.
(22:32):
You cannot allow them to justdominate the narrative like this
all the time.
And it's not, you know, thepushback is so here.
I mean, we are living in thepushback now, which is
phenomenal, but my goodness, Icertainly understand why people
won't.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, but it's the narrative, you know, switching
topics, the narrative has been,you know, through the entire
last administration.
You know well it takes this andwell it takes that.
We can.
Nothing moves that fast, right,and President Trump, when he
talked to the joint session ofCongress, talked about it with
the border, and it was one ofthose.
That was the absolute mic dropmoment of the night.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
The media and our friends in the Democrat party
kept saying we needed newlegislation.
We must have legislation tosecure the border, but it turned
out that all we really neededwas a new president.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And here we are, here we are, here we are and it's
all happening and you know, justlike you said, with the border
crossing alone, it is justphenomenal, it's unbelievable.
What's the number?
I think the number is like it'sdown like 94%, is that right?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yep, it's the lowest it's been in decades and it's
down 94% from last year.
Oh, by the way, there is alsonow reverse border crossing,
paid for the coyotes.
For those of you that don'tknow right, those are the guides
.
Those are paid.
Those are the people that knowwhere the tunnels are, they know
where the crossing points are,they know all of those things
(24:12):
and they get paid to move peopleacross the border.
They are now being paid tobring people back to Mexico.
Wow, unbelievable People wouldrather pay that fee than the
potential fines that come withbeing here illegally.
Um, so there there is.
They have, like border patrolknows this is happening, that
people are paying to move backacross the border.
(24:35):
Yeah, it's absolutelyincredible and, of course, you
know if you paying to move backacross the border.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, it's absolutely incredible and, of course, you
know, if you were to listen towhat the left run media is
saying, it's because the weatherit's the weather Really Like.
The crossings are down becausethe weather like that is so
hateful, spiteful and, and youknow and beyond, resistant to
crediting the Trumpadministration with anything
(25:00):
whatsoever.
It's nothing that has to dowith the policies and Trump's
stance on this and the borderpatrol agents being able to do
their jobs.
Now it's the weather.
Yeah, I can't even stand themClay Well and so we're.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You know we're taking steps that the previous
administration and evenPresident Trump didn't take in
this administration, right, sothe wall is getting finished,
right, and it's going, and it'sgoing quickly.
But they're also, they movedactive duty and National Guard
military units to reinforce andhelp Border Patrol, military
units to reinforce and helpborder patrol.
And you know some, there arepeople out there who will say,
(25:39):
well, you're not supposed to useactive duty military forces
domestically.
You know, the continentalUnited States, blah, blah, blah,
blah.
Yes, pos comitatus.
I understand all that, believeme, but they, they're not being
used for that.
Right, what they're doing isthey're bolstering, they're
backing up, they're allowing.
You know, they're filling gaps.
(25:59):
Essentially, is what they'redoing?
Right, there's nothing illegalabout putting soldiers in a you
know I hate saying a picket line, but that's basically what it
boils down to.
You know, all strung out acrossthe border at the crossing
sites, and they can stand thereand not do anything except tell
border patrol, hey, there's oneover there, and then Border
Patrol goes and they arrest themand that's it.
That's all they're doing.
Aviation's doing the same thing.
(26:20):
They send fighters down there,all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So explain that a little bit to me.
So you can't use troops,essentially, but it's like you
can't use them against Americancitizens.
Correct, which is like a matterof course, but they're using
them against illegal aliens.
So they can't they still can'tphysically actively do anything
other than point them out.
(26:43):
Is that?
Am I understanding that?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
They have no arrest authority.
Okay, so you know, even when,when I was deployed multiple
times, all of us, you know GWATveterans, you know we would have
interactions and we would knowthrough bio bio data, whether
it's fingerprints or retinascans or whatever we would run
across known criminal terrorists, Right and?
(27:07):
And we had Coast Guardsmen withus.
Because Coast Guardsmen havearrest authority.
They are sworn officers of thelaw.
They can arrest people.
Active duty soldiers, unlessyou're a military police officer
, don't have that authority.
They are sworn officers of thelaw.
They can arrest people.
Active duty soldiers, unlessyou're a military police officer
, don't have that option.
We don't have that ability.
So they're being used tobolster BPS.
They're letting BPS do the work, along with whatever other
(27:29):
federal agencies are down therehelping, but they don't have
arrest.
I don't even think they havedetention authority and really
you don't even think they havedetention authority.
So and and really you, youdon't want them getting involved
with that.
That was actually a bigdiscussion a few years ago, my
hometown city of Chicago, youknow, the murder rate had gotten
so bad.
They were talking about puttingarmed, armed soldiers on street
(27:51):
corners, which is a horribleidea, but now they can be
national guardsmen and be giventhose types of authorities from
their governor.
Okay, right, so only nationalguardsmen.
National guardsmen becausethey're owned by the state.
Oh, but as soon as they'refederalized, as soon as the
federal government takes control, they don't have that ability
anymore okay and that makes Iagree, that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We, that is not something we want.
That sets a precedent that canbe easily abused.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I mean that goes back to literally British
redcoats being housed inpeople's houses.
Yes, you know colonial days likethat.
It goes all the way back to pre, you know, pre-revolutionary
war, kind of stuff.
There's a reason for all of it,and for good reason.
So they're down there, they sothey're down there.
They're augmenting BPS, butthey're allowing those folks to
do their jobs, which is all partof why, you know, as our
headline says at the bottom, theborder crossings are down.
(28:41):
Right, they're catching one.
The interactions are lowerbecause everybody knows don't
come here anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right, the free, the gravy trains over with You're
not getting free stuff and atthe same, time, you know, bps is
allowed, they're being allowedto do their job and they're
arresting more people.
Yeah, yeah, that's great, youknow.
So you and I are kind of thesame in that we look at, you
know pretty much all of thesetopics and everything on a
intellectual, factual, practical, common sense way, and you know
(29:11):
the people on the left.
I mean, I feel like I'm abroken record saying the people
on the left, but I apologize,you know we can.
I can call them tons ofdifferent things, but this is,
this is where we are.
That group of people alwayslook at everything on the
emotional level, right thefeelings level, so like what
benefits them?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, excellent point .
Yeah, that's so true.
And you know, right now itbenefits them to be so
sympathetic to these poor.
What do they call them?
Undocumented migrants, illegalaliens.
And they drum up the whole.
You're separating families,you're?
You know they've been here andthey work and they pay taxes and
they do Pakistan.
(29:59):
They do.
That's who they focus on andyou know, hyper focus on, not
the fact that they are gettingrid of.
The Trump administration isgetting rid of.
You know rapists, murderers,gang members, violent criminals.
That's who they're getting ridof.
You know and, quite frankly, ifyou are in this country
illegally, whether you're agreat guy or a terrific woman,
(30:20):
if you're in this countryillegally, there needs to be a
consequence for that.
And sure, it is sad when it,when you think about a family
who's been here, you knowforever and ever.
But the flip side of that is,how many years did you have to
do things right, like you hadthe opportunities?
No, it's not easy.
No one is suggesting that it'seasy, but it is the process.
(30:41):
And for people who are eitherlegal immigrants or are the
children and grandchildren oflegal immigrants, who who did
everything the right way, thehard way, yeah, that that
sympathy factor doesn't wash.
So what would you say tosomebody?
I'm curious, what would you sayto somebody that somebody that
came to you with that argumentand said you know, oh, these
poor people like this border,trump's border policies are just
(31:04):
cruel and inhumane.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Like would you just tell them, I would tell you, I
would tell them and I have toldthem because I've had them come
to me with that.
Just like you, I have the sametype of you know, interactions
with people with opposingviewpoints.
And you know I had a discussionwith somebody about a, you know
, a husband and wife been herefor 30 years, still weren't
citizens, and they tried tojustify oh, the process is too
(31:26):
hard, no, it's not, it's not.
No, I don't buy it.
You'll never convince me of it,no way.
So I have no sympathy forsomebody who's been here for 30
years, still doesn't have theircitizenship, and got and deport
them.
Right, it's.
The truth is.
The truth is not being told inso many of these cases.
There's another one that's outthere right now where all the
(31:49):
headline is is that a dad?
I think he's from Maryland,right, somewhere, maybe not
Maryland, but no, it is Maryland.
He got wrongfully deported andnow the administration can't
find him and bring him back.
Well, he didn't.
And all it says is like a dad.
And the reality is he wasinvolved in human trafficking.
He was a known member of, Ithink, ms-13.
(32:11):
He had a warrant out for hisarrest, right?
So yes, he was.
You know, he had a green card,ok, but he violated law.
So, sorry, got to go Right.
No, he wasn't an illegalimmigrant.
He wasn't.
He had a green card, he wasdoing all, but he violated the
law.
Get out Right.
Same thing, but again.
You know these people.
(32:31):
You know the left manipulatesthe system.
They try to manipulate youremotions, separating families.
They don't talk about the300,000 kids that we talked
about a few weeks ago, who gotlost in the system.
They don't talk about them.
Where's?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
their horror and outrage over that, Because that,
to me, is one of the mosthorrific things we were talking
about hundreds of thousands ofchildren gone.
Nobody knows, Nobody canaccount for where they are.
These are kids that were loadedonto cargo planes in the middle
of the night and dropped off inyou know upstate New York, you
(33:08):
know in the dead of night, andtrekked out into the woods,
basically, and just gone.
Where's the outreach for that?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
yeah, and listen again, it's all about
manipulating emotions.
You know that, and we're goingto talk about the sect death
here in a minute.
But this is part right.
He just I don't know if you sawthis so he just got a new
tattoo on the bottom of hisbicep.
I did, I did arabic and I think, I think, I think it says
infidel or it says non-believer.
It says something like that,right, yeah, which I hate to
(33:39):
break it to people.
I saw a whole bunch of those,um, you know, throughout the
years in global war on terror,those things are everywhere, um,
but the sect def's got it onhis arm and everybody's like
blast, just blasting him and oh,by the way, the same people are
saying, well, and you'veprobably seen this too just
because they have ms-13 tattoosdoesn't mean like, that's not
(34:01):
that, that doesn, that's noproof of guilt, but the sect
def's got a tattoo.
That means he hates Muslims.
And so they'll use emotion,they'll anger, whatever it is,
to try and get their way andthey just continue to look
foolish.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And the only advice, the onlyadvice you can, you know, give
to anyone on the right who iswatching this and experiencing
this and doesn't have theplatform or the comfort level or
even the knowledge base tofight back against them, you
know, I would tell you that theeasiest thing you can do is to
(34:39):
simply not engage with theiremotional warfare, and you know
that that's.
If anybody could take somethingaway from this.
I would say it's got to be that, like, do not fall for the
emotional black blackmail andthe warfare that they unleash on
you.
And I would love if I thought asingle liberal or leftist would
watch the show with a, you know,open mind.
(35:01):
You know I'd love to say tothem geez, can you just give
discernment a try?
Like, try a little bit to takethe pause and say wait a minute.
You know, how do I know thatthis is true and accurate?
Does that make sense?
How is that even possible?
Like, question it just a littlebit, you know.
And the thing, question it justa little bit, you know.
(35:36):
And the thing, the thing that Ido that I honestly dislike
doing the most for show prep, isgoing to read, read and watch
what they are saying what theirperspective is, dispute it.
You know, like I just wish theywould.
But there's a gross sayingsomething about wishing in one
hand and something else inanother.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Right, see which one fills up quicker.
Yes, yeah, and listen, you andI I'm not a Hegseth fan We've
been saying this.
I want them to be successful.
Yes, you know, unfortunately wecould have had a show last week
about the entire signal thing.
Right, you know, we missed that, sorry folks.
Oh, by the way, we haven't saidit yet, it's Wednesday For us
(36:10):
it's Wednesday 530 Eastern Time.
We started recording.
All right, we're about 38 or sominutes in.
Ok, so it is Wednesday, butlast week week we could have
talked about the sloppiness ofthe signal, you know, with the
national security advisor, withthe vice president and the
Atlantic, you know, and all ofthat.
Okay, and I am one that was notHegsis.
(36:31):
They're all responsible in thesense that they probably should
have checked it.
Who was on the list?
Right?
Sure, you know we could talkabout signal Signal's been
around for quite a few years.
I personally am, you know wecould talk about Signal Signal's
been around for quite a fewyears.
I personally am, you know.
I have a Signal account.
I've been on there for a while.
I have talked sensitive notclassified sensitive information
on there a number of times.
It is probably the most securething there is, but it is not
(36:53):
for classified information.
Oh, by the way, they didn'tpass any classified information
in that chat.
However, it was sloppy, right,and truthfully, I know people
that probably would have gotfired for doing exactly what
they did.
Okay, but you know, secretaryHegseth this week has now, you
know, his new thing is isleveling the physical
(37:14):
requirements for combat relatedjobs within the military and
listen, this is one of thetoughest nuts to crack.
(37:36):
Yeah, in all jobs to females.
You know, the military at thatpoint still had gender based,
you know sex based standards forphysical fitness.
I can tell you, throughout myentire career, when I first came
in the army, the army'sphysical fitness test was
pushups, sit ups and a two milerun.
Every single category had adifferent and age had a
(37:58):
different and age had adifferent standard for men and
women.
They revised that same fitnesstest about 99, 2000,.
Somewhere in there.
Actually they flipped it overCommonsensically, the original
one.
The younger you were, theharder it was.
And then as kids became fatterand slower and didn't do as much
(38:19):
physical activity.
They figured out that if youhad been in the army for five or
six or seven years you were inbetter shape than most 18 year
olds and there was a weird bellcurve.
But what they did do wasbecause males and females
biologically have essentiallythe same core, abdominal muscle
structure and capability.
They there was one standard forsteps there was no male, female
(38:42):
.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
There was one standard right Just for sit-ups.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Just for sit-ups, the run was different, Push-ups was
different.
And then, before I retired, theArmy came out with this Army
Combat Fitness Test which theykind of modeled after something
the Marine Corps does, which wasa little bit more of the
lifting things, throwing things,obstacle course, obstacle
course, you know, kind ofoverall combat fitness, dragging
heavy weight and that kind ofstuff.
(39:05):
The problem is is that you it'svery difficult, even as an
infantryman, to say these arethe strength, the physical
fitness requirements to do yourjob.
It's hard to put that in a boxand say these are the minimum
requirements.
And listen, folks, this is fromthe Secretary of Defense's
perspective about males andfemales in combat roles.
(39:26):
Don't take it any other way.
That's what he's talking about.
Now.
I will tell you that I've beenaround a number of females in my
time who could rock, carry aheavy rock, they could run, they
could do all the things that Icould do, without question.
Now, those are few and farbetween, but they are out there.
Okay, yeah, the hard part is tosay these are the requirements
(39:50):
for the job.
And then, oh, by the way, youknow, if anybody, whoever can
meet those standards, can be inRight Now, I will tell you
there's a lot of guys out therewho can't meet those standards
and they're going to get.
They're going to get theirfeelings hurt and they're going
to get their heart brokenbecause they're not going to
make it.
The question is is when you havea anyone, male or female,
doesn't matter who it is.
They joined the military.
(40:11):
Maybe they meet those standardsduring basic training or
bootcamp.
Then they get to their unit.
They're there for maybe a yearand then they no longer meet
that standard.
So do they get fired?
Do they get kicked out?
Do you send them to anotherlocation?
Do you give them a new job inthe military?
Oh, by the way, now you'respending more money to retrain
them.
This is not as easy as set anew standard.
(40:34):
It's not that simple.
Oh, by the way, he only gavethe service chiefs 60 days to
figure this out.
They've been trying to figurethis out for 25 years.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
They're not going to do it.
Yeah, it just seems like such amatter of course, such a
baseline expectation to say,yeah, absolutely, men, women
doesn't matter.
If you want to try this, if youwant to join the military, you
(41:04):
simply have to be able to fitthe fitness standard that's
required.
This is the standard.
Doesn't matter if you're maleor female, if you can hit it,
you're good.
It's so simple.
But then, of course, they haveto make everything more
complicated and difficultbecause of feelings and being
(41:26):
nice, right, nice.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
That's part of it too .
But again, this is veryspecific about combat roles,
like things I used to do as aninfantryman or special
operations or whatever.
Like you know, in the old days,they just literally drew a line
and they said women are notallowed to do these jobs because
we're not going to spend themoney to try and find, you know,
the females that can.
We're also going to, not, we'renot going to make, you know,
(41:57):
concessions for them, forbathrooms and showers and
billeting and you know thosekinds of things.
That was the position.
We're just not going to do it.
Yeah, and then President Obamaopened that door, which you know
it's hard to close, pandora'sbox.
But so now we're kind of caughtin this thing where it's like,
well, we're not telling themthey can't arbitrarily.
What we are telling them isthey've got to meet these
physical standards, which oh, bythe way, are going to be pretty
arbitrary.
And if you're told to fix it in60 days, there's no science
(42:19):
behind that.
That's an arbitrary fix.
Yes, so you know none of thisstuff.
It doesn't.
It's not an easy fix, I do.
I don't envy the service chiefsbecause they're going to get
jammed up on this in a hurry.
And again, I think this is abad, this is a bad optic and
it's a bad look for the sec def.
It's a very one of my big fearsabout him taking this job is he
(42:41):
has a very narrow view and aneven more narrow experience and
he's very biased and he's alsovery inexperienced and
uneducated as to how themilitary really works.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
So is your biggest bone of contention with this the
60 days or the ruling ingeneral?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Well, I think what he told them to do was figure out
what the physical standards arefor those combat related jobs.
Okay, that you, you can't.
You could put 50 people in aroom that have all been in the
army for 30 years and you'regoing to get 50 different
opinions on what therequirements are to do those
jobs.
Okay, so you know.
(43:19):
And then, what the requirementsare to do those jobs?
Okay, so you know.
And then, oh, by the way,you've got to go.
Well, it's one standard, but isit?
Is it one standard?
Okay, we're talking gender, butis it the same standard by age?
Like me, as an infantryman, Iretired.
You know I was what?
46 when I retired.
Right, I'm not doing the samething.
(43:39):
An 18 year old is doing, Sure,sure.
So is it one standard all ages?
Is it one standard by agegroups?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like, and again, if you've gotsomebody who doesn't meet the
standard, do you just kick themout of the military?
Do you kick them out of theirjob?
Do you kick them?
You know, there's the questionthat he posed, or the challenge
that he made to the servicechiefs.
Seems very simple, but inpractice, there are so many
(44:04):
layers and levels to this.
160 days is an irrationalnumber.
But two, this is like you'retalking about personnel
decisions, you're talking aboutthere's.
This goes pretty deep.
I think it was just not a theway that this this was done.
I think again was a veryimmature way for the secretary
to handle.
It Should have been done very.
(44:25):
If this is what he really wants, he should have done it very,
very differently.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, how could he backpedal from this, because it
sounds like he's going to needto backpedal to some degree.
How is he going to be able todo that in safe face?
Speaker 3 (44:38):
I don't know truthfully, and I think
immediately following the signaldebacle he kind of stepped in a
little bit.
This is two missteps in a row,so it's not going to look good.
I think probably, if he wantsto deflect because Congress is
going to come after him for this, there's going to be Congress
(44:58):
members that are going to comeafter him for this and if he
wants to deflect, all he has todo is turn around and look at
Congress and go listen, you guyscan't even agree that women
should be part of selectiveservice and they should be
drafted.
So don't let's not even talkabout standards for service and
just you know, tell them to goaway.
It doesn't work that way.
That'll buy him some time, butI think this is a dead end road
and he's going to have a hardtime figuring this one out.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And it's going to look bad.
What do you think is going onbehind closed doors with the
service chief?
He doesn't want any like I'mthinking with between Trump and
Hegseth.
Like do you think this is isgoing to cause any bad blood, I
wonder, because Trump doesn'twant any missteps and missteps
happening here and there.
We've got.
We didn't put it on our listand so we won't really talk
about it today, but maybe nextweek.
I would like to talk about itas I get more information A
little.
Well, it's not really a littlebit, but there's some RFK Jr
(45:49):
scandal brewing under thesurface of things and it's
probably going to bust out loudrelatively soon unless they're
able to contain it and dosomething about it.
But you know two potentialproblems, I guess we could say
in the administration, and thisis a time where he really needs
(46:12):
zero problems.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I think.
I think Hegzeth is going to behis first firing.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, really Wow Okay .
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, I think, and I cause I don't.
I don't classify um Stefanik.
You know he asked her to pullher nomination for the UN
ambassador, but he did that to,you know, to help maintain
control of Congress.
Every seat's important at thispoint and that's why he asked
her to back out of that.
I don't consider that a firingfor poor performance or anything
else, but I do think thatHegseth is going to be the first
one to get fired in theadministration.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Okay, wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, well, I'm going to bookmark this episode in
case I in.
I'm going to bookmark thisepisode in case I need to pull
out that clip and do our toldyou so.
Yeah, clay's not.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
You haven't gotten him wrong, you've called him.
I'm lucky like that.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, we'll call it luck Sure.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
We'll call it luck.
Well, at least I didn't have toendure 25 plus hours of court.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Oh, come on, I mean seriously this guy.
Five plus hours, of course.
Oh, come on, I mean seriouslythis guy.
First of all, I I generallycannot stand even the sight of
him.
He is such a arrogant, pompous,condescending idiot is what he
is.
I mean that's, that is thenicest thing I can come up with
to say about him yeah, you know,and this wasn't even a
(47:29):
filibuster.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
That's what kills me about this.
Like, yeah, you know, the theprevious record.
He was very proud that he brokethe record.
By the way.
Yeah, so stupid, so stupid.
The previous record was held asbecause of filibuster.
Right, that wasn't even whatthis was.
This was marathoning and it wasgrandstanding.
Yeah, you to talk about how youstand for democracy.
(47:50):
Pardon my mouth but it's allright, it is.
It ended Congress's work for theweek Like they're doing nothing
else.
Yeah, they all went home afterthat disaster, so you know he
did it.
Like you said stand fordemocracy, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Um, but you know they had some things on the docket
that they were supposed to voteon this week that they didn't
get to yeah, the whole thing isabsurd and, and I'll be honest,
I don't know enough about thatprocess to understand why they
get to do that.
Do you?
Do you know?
Because?
Know, because, if not, I will,I will find it and I will stick
(48:31):
it in the show notes.
Do you know?
I thought I did?
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, I thought I did and it had to do with the
filibuster and I and that I get.
You know, that's kind of one ofthose like I'm going to talk
until I'm blue in the face andmake it painful for everybody so
that we delay this vote as longas we can, right, you know, in
the sense of like, maybe we candrum up some opposition, we can
flip the numbers a little bit.
You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, he was just doing it because he can.
Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
This one I don't get at all.
So 25 hours, 25 hours, and likeeverything else, there's some
dishonesty in this, because hehad two other people that came
up during those 25 hours thattalked on his behalf, probably
for a bathroom break.
Oh right, you know.
So he got a little bit ofrespite.
(49:16):
But here's the other thing thatnobody's talking about.
Did you hear that his drivergot arrested in the middle of
all this?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Oh, I did hear that.
Yeah, what the heck was that?
Oh, because he brought a gun.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
He was unlicensed Booker walked him around past
security.
He had a gun on him in thebuilding.
Oh, by the way, booker, totallyanti 2A, totally anti 2A.
But you know he gets securityillegally armed security inside
(49:47):
the Capitol.
You know, and that guy gotarrested, you know, know.
So again, it's more hypocrisyfrom the biggest hypocrites on
the floor.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, how typical you know,with their, their two way stance
, every single one of them.
Yeah, they're totally againstit, but yet they're all.
They're all protected by armedguards or bodyguards and
everything you know.
It's despicable.
I remember that with uh uh whatwas her name?
beetlejuice there from a light,uh, lighthouse yes, lightfoot,
(50:15):
laurie lightfoot, yeah Iremember that distinctly, that
she had, like, essentially,taken an entire uh police detail
out of impoverished communitiesand put them on.
You know, protecting her,protecting her home, because
there were some threats againsther or something.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
I know some cops, I know a handful of Chicago cops
and she was the most despisedwoman in the city and oh, by the
way, they knew all the dirtysecrets.
Like her, lori Lightfoot andher wife had knockdown, drag out
, screaming domestic violencekind of stuff going on in the
mayoral mansion that all thepolice kind of you know turn a
(50:52):
blind eye to kind of stuff.
But they hated her, absolutelyhated her.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
And I'm sure she was awful to them, because that's
the other part of their, their,their pattern.
You know that they have.
It's just the.
Again, I go back to what I wassaying about Cory Booker.
Again, I go back to what I wassaying about Cory Booker.
They all have this arrogance tothem.
This rules for thee but not forme attitude.
(51:17):
The Clintons, the Clintons didit.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yes, that's where it all started.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think you're absolutely right, because that's really like I'm
thinking about it now.
That's where I really rememberit, seeing it clearly that there
was definitely this I don'tknow like hierarchy of, or at
least an attitude of hierarchy.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
And I know some guys.
I know some guys who flew themaround.
Yeah, personally know some guyswho flew in the Marine
Helicopter Squadron, that HMXone.
I think that's what.
Hmx one is the MarineSquadronter Squadron, that HMX-1
.
I think that's what.
Yeah, hmx-1 is the MarineSquadron that flies them around.
I knew some guys that flewthere.
I knew some guys who were WhiteHouse comms during the Clinton
administration.
I knew one guy who was SecretService.
(52:01):
She hated them, hated them all.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah she was nasty to them right.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, and treated them like complete garbage.
So that's where all that stuffstarted.
It's just been carried forwardall the way through.
Oh, by the way, we'll talkabout this.
Next week.
There's an Obama book comingout.
Have you heard about this?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
No, this is new to me .
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
It lays out everything how he tanked, or was
aiming to tank, kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Wow, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Kamala Harris.
Wow, oh, I can't wait.
We'll talk about that one nextweek.
Yeah, yeah, I heard that thismorning.
But yeah, there's a tell-allcoming out that that'll be,
that'll be very, veryinteresting.
But that all it all leadsforward, from the Clintons right
through even I hate to say thisthrough Bush, through Obama,
through Biden.
You know it's all the samething.
And Booker and this guy, thissecurity driver guy, it's the
same thing.
(52:52):
I do whatever I want.
You're not going to hold meaccountable, but they did.
They arrested him, they did.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah.
Yeah, they picked the wrongadministration to be pulling
that garbage.
Like really you think you'regoing to get away with that now?
Maybe you know last year youcould.
No problem, I'm sure they didBased on that.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
I'm sure they did.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Based on that.
There's no question about it.
They're all walking around withguns on their hips and
everything, unless you're aconservative doing that.
Well, and listen, there are,there are.
I have nothing against that perse.
I mean there are conservativeswho do carry in the Capitol,
blah, blah, blah.
This guy was not licensed, hewas not authorized to carry.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, that's the key right there yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Again, it's the hypocrisy.
They violated a bunch ofsecurity protocols and policies
and oh, by the way, you've got aguy who's anti two way stance
on top of everything else.
So you know, that's.
That's the issue there.
It's not about the guns.
Believe me, I have no issuewith that.
It's just that guy in thatsituation.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Oh, my goodness, we got acouple of minutes left.
Are we squeezing in this?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
last one.
We can do this.
This is so, folks, this is a.
This is a big deal.
Um, because you know the U S?
Um is is.
Since post-World War II we havehad an alliance with Japan and
Japan has been very content,very much like Israel, with a
defense force, not aable,offensive-minded military right.
(54:13):
Israel has the IDF, japan hasthe JDF.
Part of that was post-World WarII, like, hey, you're not
allowed to have a deployablemilitary right.
So they haven't and they'vebeen very content with that.
But it's an advanced.
They have a very advancedmilitary.
We have maintained US Forces.
Japan, because it's a leapingoff point for us in the Pacific,
(54:35):
has been for years Okinawa, youknow other places like that.
We've had Marine bases, airForce bases.
We have stayed out of Japan fora long time.
What we haven't had is a warfighting headquarters in Japan
with eyes on China, which isexactly what this is.
We are establishing a new,larger headquarters, and I say
(54:57):
larger in the sense of I thinkwhat's there now is a two star.
I think they're elevating it toa three star headquarters with
eyes on Japan or eyes on China.
So if the Pacific does escalate,they can flow forces in.
We can flow forces in.
We've already gottenestablished headquarters,
communications are there, all ofthose things are there.
Right, it's tied into theforces we've got in Korea and
(55:20):
those kinds of things.
So, and Japan's on board withthis.
Oh, by the way, if you guysdon't know your history, the
Japanese, the Koreans and theChinese all hate each other from
centuries of conquering eachother and that doesn't go away
in that culture.
So Japan's on board with this.
It's the first time that theyhave agreed or been involved in
(55:41):
any type of offensive militarymindset since 1945.
So it's a very interesting,that's one to watch.
I think it's good because theUS is now saying China is a
priority Right, which we haven'tdone as well as we should have
over the last couple of years.
So it's a big deal, it's a bigmove for our military to do this
(56:02):
.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
And of course you know, to state the obvious, the
left is melting down, that youknow they're going to cause some
major fullon conflict betweenChina and us and all that stuff.
They're sounding the alarms, asusual.
The panic bells are ringing andI got to admit I'm just sitting
here going no, I'm not tooworried about it.
Trump's got it, trump's goingto handle it.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
It's all good, it's not something to be concerned
about.
It's actually.
Listen, folks, if you want tolook at it this way, this is the
exact same thing as having athree-star headquarters in
Europe or a four-starheadquarters in Europe or in
Africa or responsible for theMiddle East.
This is geographic, but it'sfocused on China.
(56:46):
It's just precautionary.
This is not a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
China.
It's just precautionary.
This is not a bad thing, yeah,yeah, well.
Well, certainly we had a lot ofthings to watch, right.
Lots of things, that prettymuch everything we talked about.
We're keeping an eye on I'm I'mnow thanks to you.
I'm most curious what's goingto happen with Hegseth, as, as
things progress and move alongbut you probably have something
there, because you know it'sthat three strikes and you're
out, thing right.
I mean, if he has one morething go wrong, that could be,
(57:13):
it could be a problem for himfor sure.
So I'll be curious to see whathappens.
No, no doubt about it, andwe're going to have so many fun
things to talk about for nextweek.
We'll have the things that wedon't even know about yet.
But you know there's going tobe stuff and things.
There's just no question aboutit.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Yeah, it never changes, it always moves.
You know we, we always getsomething new.
I mean, we even we pinged, youknow, whatever that the book,
you know the Obama book we'regoing to talk about that next
week most likely.
But you know, there'll be 50more things that we'll have to
choose.
From that I'll have to choosefrom on Tuesday morning.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
It's on you.
It's on you.
We'll see if RFK Jr makes thecut next week.
I technically don't even wantto talk about it.
I know I'm talking about itright now, but I technically
don't even want to talk about ituntil there's just more
information to talk about.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
You're ahead of me on this one, because I honestly
have no clue what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah, it's a little like.
I don't want to call itunderground, but it's.
I guess it's a little bitunderground.
So I I'm hoping that it'snothing to be overly concerned
about.
I also, next week we got to tryand squeeze in.
I want to talk about the dailywire.
This is a very, veryinteresting stuff, so I'm sure
it's not going anywhere.
The story will be, you know, ifanything, it'll be bigger next
week than it is right now.
(58:31):
So much to talk about, guys.
We appreciate you, as always,hanging out with us.
I know Clay already told you.
I'm reminding you, we'rerecording on Wednesday.
You're watching on Thursday.
We'll be in the comment sectionwatching with you guys.
So be sure to engage and share,share, share with your friends,
your family, your favoriteliberal, whoever you are Right,
(58:55):
oh yeah, oh, my goodness, clay,close them out.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
You know we appreciate you.
I appreciate you every week.
We're glad to be back.
One week, one week off wasenough.
Probably too much almost.
But you know we do this for youand with you and we really
appreciate everybody tuning inevery week.
And, as always for me, keepmoving, keep shooting.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Take care guys.
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