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Trump secures a 30-day limited ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia while the NATO Secretary General announces Ukraine will never join NATO, fulfilling one of Putin's key demands for ending the war. 

• Russia agrees to stop targeting Ukrainian infrastructure for 30 days as a first step
• Trump's direct phone call with Putin lasted between 90 minutes and two hours
• NATO Secretary General's statement about Ukraine never joining NATO removes a major obstacle
• Some NATO nations including France considering putting troops into Ukraine despite the risks
• Common sense leadership focusing on peace is emerging across Europe

• Israel resumes military operations after Hamas violated ceasefire conditions
• Israel targeted the Hamas political leader in Gaza with precise airstrikes
• Ceasefire conditions regarding prisoner returns weren't honored by Hamas
• Hamas used the ceasefire period to regroup, rearm and repair infrastructure
• The centuries-old conflict makes lasting peace extremely challenging

• Gavin Newsom launching podcast featuring conservative voices like Charlie Kirk
• Newsom making strategic moves toward a likely 2028 presidential run
• California's failures under Newsom include homelessness crisis, education decline, and budget deficits
• Despite high gas taxes, California ranks 47th in road quality
• Prediction: Newsom-Whitmer ticket for Democrats in 2028

• Biden family members lose Secret Service protection under Trump administration
• Hunter Biden had 18 agents assigned to his detail despite no credible threats
• JFK assassination files reveal possible CIA connections and a surprising letter from JFK Jr.
• American astronauts rescued by SpaceX after being stranded in space for nine months
• Trump gave Elon Musk approval to complete the rescue mission

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Let's talk about this guy righthere, huh.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, so this was, you know, it's it.
Baby steps, right, we've allgot, remember baby steps.
Um, you know, president trump,really you know this started
with, uh, secretary of state acouple of weeks ago, you know,
and then we had the zielinski inthe oval office and that didn't
go well.

(03:03):
And then, um, you know, andthen Zelensky came back and he
said, ok, maybe.
And then they agreed toconditions for a 30 day
ceasefire.
And then President Trump got onthe phone with Putin and it
sounds like somewhere.
I've heard 90 minutes, I'veheard two hours, but they were
on the phone for quite a longtime and you know what came out

(03:26):
of it were the first steps ofconditions for ceasefire, which
was no targeting of Ukrainianinfrastructure by Russia.
I think it's probably two ways,but that's what Putin agreed to
was like listen, I'll lay offof infrastructure.

(03:48):
Now it immediately violatedthat within a few hours.
I would venture to guess thatcommunications don't move as
rapidly through the Russianmilitary system as we think they
do.
So while he hung up the phonewith President Trump, it

(04:08):
probably took way too long to,you know, stop the operations
that were already planned and,you know, kind of underway.
So, but that is the baby step.
So Putin agreed to at least nownon-infrastructure energy
infrastructure attacks for 30days, but this is ongoing

(04:32):
discussion.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so do you think that is, you know, innocent, so
to speak, that the timing ofthe agreement or the partial
ceasefire there, and then that?
Do you think that waslegitimate, like a legitimately
a chain of communication error,or do you think that was a

(04:53):
little?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
malicious.
I think it's a coin flip.
Truthfully, I think either oneis is likely, and I think you'd
have a problem disproving eitherone of them or proving either
one of them.
So you know, I think you know,is Putin smart enough to get one
last shot in before it starts?

(05:16):
Sure he is.
Could it be incompetence orlack of capability at their
level to get down to the youknow, the units that are
executing stuff?
Yeah, that's possible.
So you know, unless somebody'sgot some really, really inside
baseball into Russian militarycommunications, they'd be,
they'd be hard pressed to proveit one way or the other.
But I think it's a coin flip.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, and you know, of course, the, the media, the
mainstream media is is going torun with.
Yeah, you see, you see, trumptrusts him too much and and this
is what happens, and you know.
So, from that perspective, it'sdefinitely um, you know, it's a
bummer.
I mean, I hate to say that solightly when we're talking about
, you know, actions of war, butuh, but yeah, it's I, I hate

(06:03):
giving them any little bit ofanything, so that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, what people forget is that, besides loss of
life and loss of equipment,which is obviously of a great
concern, russia has no reason tostop doing what they're doing
right none.
they have no reason.
Ukraine's never going to beatthem without nato's help.

(06:31):
So you know, russia can forcethe issue as long as they want,
and either they will, you know,through truthfully, with with
significant loss of life andequipment.
I mean, it's war and it's not.
You know it's pretty ugly, butthey could take Ukraine, they
could right up until NATO stepsin.
So you know, putin doesn't haveto agree to anything.

(06:55):
The fact that he even had thephone call and even agreed to
the infrastructure thing, youknow, I think is a good sign.
But at the same time, he's notan idiot, he knows, if you know
he, okay, so I'm going to stopblowing up power plants which,
if I take over Ukraine, I'mgoing to have to rebuild anyway.
Ok, fine, right, sure.
So you know, I think it's justthe fact that there's an open

(07:17):
line of communication at thispoint and the fact that they are
having more talks I thinkSecretary Rubio is in Saudi
Arabia right now, maybesomewhere in that region, having
talks with, you know, russianrepresentation as well as the
Ukrainians.
So it's progressing, do?

(07:39):
I think it will continue?
I think the ceasefire, thelimited scope of this ceasefire,
I think will continue, but Ithink it's.
You know, a crack communicationis being opened, and who's it?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
being opened by president Trump.
You know, and and I thinkthat's a good feather in the cap
right now to be thefacilitators of, of peace
essentially, you know, and yeah,I mean I think it's great, I
think you know what I think isactually really great and I can
you can tell me if I'm wrong.

(08:25):
I'm pretty sure Biden certainlynever did anything like this,
or I don't know if any presidentbefore um he Trump, president
Trump released the transcriptfrom the phone call or was it
just like a summary of it?
I feel like I read somewherethat he released the transcript
of the conversation.
I'm sure there were parts thatwere heavily redacted if he did,

(08:46):
for obvious reasons.
But yeah, again, I've said itso many times over the past were
we in March, in the past couplemonths, about this
administration's attempt attransparency, so that we really
feel like we know what'shappening here?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, I don't know about a released transcript that
I hadn't seen.
That Um and and you knowthere's always the closed door
and then in front of the cameras, right, there's reasons for
that Um, which again I hate togo back to the Oval Office and
Zelensky thing but that's adirect result of him not kind of

(09:27):
honoring the you know we're outin public kind of conduct and
he threw a curveball PresidentTrump, and that's why that whole
thing went south.
But there's a couple of otherthings that have been happening
on the fringes of this thatmatter, and the first is, you
know, putin has said repeatedly,over and over again, one of his
conditions to end the war is anironclad agreement that Ukraine

(09:49):
will never be part of NATO.
I've been listen, I've beensaying this since a year ago.
Right Now, the NATO SecretaryGeneral just came out within the
last few days and said Ukrainewill never be a part of NATO out
within the last few days andsaid Ukraine will never be a
part of NATO.
Okay, so you know, and becausehe recognizes that a couple of

(10:12):
you know all Russia wants is a.
They've got a buffer, that'swhat they want.
Ukraine's part of that buffer,it's part of the agreements that
have been made both formallyand informally since 1989.
And he understands that that isthe linchpin for all of this
with Putin.
And he said it.
This NATO secretary general,who really doesn't have decision

(10:33):
authority over this kind ofstuff you know it's the voting
body of NATO will decide, but hehas voiced his opinion and said
that they can never become partof NATO.
So that weighs a lot and reallythat's all.
That's all Putin's looking forright now.
Now, again, it goes back towhat you said about.
You know, can you trust him?

(10:54):
Can you not?
Can you this, can you that?
And you know the reality is isthat you've got to give a little
to get a little.
And right now, an agreement toyou know, say that Ukraine's not
going to be a part of NATO.
I think stops this.
There are already NATO nations,france being one of them, who's

(11:18):
talking.
They're talking about puttingNATO troops into Ukraine, which
is we've done NATO UNpeacekeeping operations, right,
and really what you're doing iscreating a buffer, right
Immediately between the Russiansand the Ukrainians.
You put NATO troops in themiddle and it forces Russia to
not attack because you'reputting NATO troops at risk.
Yes, so I think that that is ahorrible, horrible decision,

(11:44):
because again you are this,that's an all or nothing
proposition.
What you can't have, say, aFrench unit in there and the
Russians don't know they'reFrench, or they don't recognize
they're French, or they playdumb and you know, and they kill
some French soldiers.
Then what does NATO do?
Like really, what does NATO do?

(12:07):
How do they respond?
I mean, you're talking aboutforcing the issue with World War
III by sticking NATO in themiddle of this when you haven't
exhausted all opportunities fora ceasefire prior to that.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Like it's really a dangerous game that Macron and
the others are playing with this.
And oh, by the way, they're notgoing to get full NATO support
to do it.
The Italians have already saidno, the Hungarians have already
said no.
There's a bunch of nations thatare not willing to stick their
troops in the middle of this, soit becomes dicey inside of NATO
by itself, let alone a loneNATO nation or two doing it

(12:46):
without support of the rest ofthe organization.
So even talking about that's alittle bit dicey, but I think
that's a horrible decision ontheir part if they haven't
exhausted all opportunities.
Because oh, by the way, we'renot putting Americans in there.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, no, no, absolutely not Trump, trump,
trump won't allow it.
You know it's it just feelslike and I'm sure to some degree
I'm wrong, but man, it justfeels like Trump is the only one
who's really trying to makepeace happen.
You know, everybody else justwants to cause more conflict,

(13:21):
and we know why.
I mean it's all about money andpower and strength and all of
the things, and war equals moneyfor them.
You know, I get it on theintellectual level that that's
the why War is big business,obviously.
But man, oh man, it's crazy.
I think it kind of goes back towhat you've said probably more

(13:43):
than once in the past about.
You know, unless you're willingto and of course Trump said it
as well, you know unless you'rewilling to go into battle
yourself, you better just backup, back up and back off, right?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, there's a lot of people, americans included,
you know, who are fully insupport of all this but
certainly are not volunteeringto go themselves and definitely
are not signing their kids upfor it.
So, you know it, put your moneywhere your mouth is or shut up
Um and and.
So if you've got a teenage boyor girl at home, if you want to

(14:17):
look four years down the road,and if you're not willing to to
put them, you know, into thefray, then you know, keep it to
yourself, because that's whatyou're talking about doing,
that's what's going to escalateto as it stands, with what NATO
is talking about doing.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, you know, and if you want to and that's a
great, great points and if youwant to keep going in that vein,
you can pretty much say toeveryone that you know you
should be praying and asking andworking for whatever your
capacity is of what you do.
If you're just sitting back,you know, watching the news,
then I guess it's praying orhoping for you.

(14:55):
Um, that the ceasefire is morethan a partial ceasefire, is a
complete ceasefire.
That's what everyone's eyesshould be on for the prize, you
know, simple as I mean, it isthat simple, and I know all of
the, the machinations ofeverything is not simple, but
the desire should be simple.

(15:16):
So we shall see.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, and it's.
It's all conditional and I getit, but conditions have to be
met, you know.
It's got to be a worthwhilething for both sides, you know,
and President Trump is thedealmaker.
That's who he is, we all knowthat.
So you know it'll be somethingthat's palatable for Russia.
It'll be something that ispalatable for Ukraine.
Ukraine, truthfully, at thispoint, should take just about

(15:41):
anything that's handed themAbsolutely, and the rest of
Europe should do the same,because otherwise they're going
to, you know, they're going tobe engulfed in this, whether
they want to or not, and youknow, and it's not going to be
pretty.
I mean, there are so many, andmost of Europe and most of NATO

(16:01):
has depleted their military somuch in the last 30 years that
this is not, you know, 1988, theyear before the wall fell.
It's not.
Germany is not capable, franceis not.
There's very little military,real military capability left in
Europe.
So it is going to be a NATOthing and it's going to be

(16:23):
everybody.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
So they should all be hoping for a ceasefire.
Anybody who's talking against aceasefire is crazy, namely
being this mass illegalimmigration that's going on and
these, you know, animalsbasically taking over their
country.
So everybody's got something tofocus on in their own house.
So how about you know, it'sjust common sense Everybody work

(16:59):
toward peace, work towardceasefires, clean your own
houses and then you knowwhatever, whatever's next after
that.
But holy cow.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, there's actually a candidate, not the
Labour Party, which is currentlyin power and in England as it
stands, or in the UK as itstands, but there is a candidate
coming from the opposing party,the conservative party, who has
stood up and said watch Trump,watch what.
And he is going to run to beprime minister under the exact

(17:33):
same mindset, the exact, youknow, like hard on crime, close
the borders.
You know, englishman, ukresidents, first take care of
ourselves, take care of ourdefense, take care of our trade.
Like he is running under theexact same mindset as President

(17:54):
Trump.
And you're starting to seepockets of this all over the
place, across European nations,across European nations.
So, you know, this common senseleadership is kind of rising to
the top and hopefully thatcommon sense is going to keep
not just Ukraine safe and thewar keep them in existence, but

(18:19):
all of those Eastern Europe andreally the rest of Europe as a
whole.
Common sense should prevail andwe just, you know, take the
ceasefire, move on and everybodyjust lives another day.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yes, yeah, absolutely .
I mean.
Ceasefire is the term of thehalf hour.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
You got to honor it, though.
What's that?
You have to honor the ceasefire.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Listen, I know that Israel is the one who
technically broke the ceasefire.
Okay, I understand thatAirstrikes yesterday, but also
ground troops today back intoGaza for the first time since
the ceasefire.
But the question is why?
And it's because Hamas brokethe conditions of the ceasefire,

(19:07):
which had to do with returningof prisoners, returning of, you
know, remains of prisoners andthose kinds of things.
So you know Israel did whatthey do.
The first thing they did wasthey killed the political leader
of Hamas in Gaza.
First strike, boom done,followed it up with a couple of
more airstrikes and now we'removing troops back in.

(19:28):
So you know again, presidentTrump and Secretary Rubio and
everybody else, you know theybrokered this deal.
Everybody knew the conditions.
Israel was behaving as much asthey don't want to, they were
behaving based on the conditionsof the ceasefire and then Hamas

(19:48):
violated the conditions of theceasefire.
So you know Israel did whatthey do.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
And I'll tell you what you know my perspective on
that is asking Israel to holdback.
It's a big ask.
It's a big ask, you know.
And if they're going to keepprovoking and it's such an
understatement of what they'redoing if they're going to keep

(20:14):
breaking these agreements,israel has a right to defend
themselves.
They have the right to protecttheir own.
So you know, to expectotherwise is is kind of absurd,
really, and you're dealing withpeople that don't follow the
rules.
You know.
So, unless somehow you get themto agree to a true ceasefire,

(20:37):
which they've already proventime and again, you know and I
think that's kind of theposition here that, like sure,
we can come to an agreementevery day of the week, and every
other day of the week they'regoing to break it.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
So yeah, I can promise you that.
You know Netanyahu honored theceasefire because it was an
agreement that him and Trumpcame to truthfully, to
truthfully, and I'm sure, I'msure Bibi told him okay, I agree
to it, However, right.
And then you know, at firstopportunity, when Hamas didn't

(21:13):
honor the conditions of theceasefire, you know Israel did
what they do, but I can whatthey're also doing now, and I
know that during the ceasefire Iknow people don't want to
believe this, but Hamas wasdoing what Hamas does during the
ceasefire they were rearming,they were moving things around,
they were repairing, you know,tunnels, they were setting up

(21:34):
new, new bases underneathhospitals and schools and
everything else.
They were doing all the thingsthey normally do.
Yes, they're reestablishingtheir chain of command after it
got decimated by the Israelis.
So they're just resettingthemselves and they were using
the ceasefire to do it with andthey violated the ceasefire.

(21:55):
And I can promise you, theIsraelis are going in there they
went in there today troops intoGaza and they're going to find
all evidence of all of thosethings.
They're going to find evidenceof new tunnels.
They're going to find evidenceof new you know munitions being
moved around and new rocketlaunching sites and all kinds of
stuff.
And then you've got the outsideinterference.

(22:15):
You know you've got the, theHouthis that fired.
You know that are firing into,you know, into Gaza or into into
Israel, you know Iran stickingtheir nose in the middle of this
, like there's a lot of outsideactors getting involved again or
still, but it's again.
It's because there was aceasefire.

(22:36):
Hamas didn't honor theconditions of the ceasefire.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, simple as that.
And of course, you know theother side will will try and
tell you differently, but thatis the simple fact.
And and that is, you know,unfortunately, as hopeful as I'd
like to be, you know, talkingabout the previous ceasefire
there, as hopeful as I'd like tobe, I mean, we're talking about

(22:59):
something that is centuries old.
Right, that I don't.
I don't, I honestly don't think, I don't believe that there
ever truly will be a ceasefire.
There will be momentary pauses.
I will commend president Trumpall day long, every day, on
every attempt that he makes tohave this happen, but you know,

(23:23):
they, they have proventhemselves completely
untrustworthy to keep their word.
And there's, like you know,like you were saying, there's so
many different factions thathave it in for Israel and I
don't know, I mean, if Trumpcould actually make that happen,
uh, that would probably be oneof the greatest miracles we'll

(23:45):
ever see.
I think the most we can hopefor is like a longer term time
frame of peacefulness, you know,and but of course, israel is
never going to be able to lettheir guard down, ever, ever,
nor nor would they.
I mean, I'm stating the obvious, of course.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
No, you said it, it's centuries old.
I mean, you know all crusadesand like.
This has been going on forever.
Like Israel, jerusalemspecifically has been like at
the epicenter of religiousconflict for as far back as
there's written history,basically.
And so you know it's not goingto.

(24:26):
I'm not a believer that thetwo-state solution is possible,
and it's not because of Israel.
Israel has proven, if you knowanything about Israel itself,
the nation, not necessarilyabout the Israeli government,
but the nation there's plenty ofyou know Muslim Palestinian
Arab businesses that exist,muslims that serve in the IDF,

(24:51):
in the Israeli Defense Force.
There's plenty of that on theIsraeli side of things.
What doesn't allow for atwo-state solution is
organizations like Hamas andHezbollah and the Houthis and
the Iranians and everything else.
So Israel is and always will bean island against the Arab

(25:12):
world and that's not going tochange.
So even if Hamas goes away,they will still be under threat
of terror attacks by radicalizedMuslims.
As long as there is an Israelperiod.
They'll never be able to lettheir guard down.
But I think the attempts at thetwo-state solution are a wasted

(25:33):
effort.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I would love to argue thatthere's no argument, it's just a
fact, right?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, what would be optimal is if you could get and
this started at the end ofPresident Trump's last term if
you could get a nation like theSaudis right to step in and
broker this right, yeah, or theKuwaitis, or somebody, and say,
listen, yeah, all youPalestinians, pack your stuff

(26:03):
right, just just move, come on,we'll, we'll give you a place
and and and take care of it thatway, because they know the same
thing, they understand the samething, they understand that
that is never a it's never anoptimal thing.
But you know, with the newgeneration kingdom of Saudi
Arabia, the younger princes,they all understand that Israel

(26:25):
is not going away.
They have less of a, you know,antagonistic attitude towards
the Jewish people, and, and so Ithink it's more negotiable.
But until you get one of themto step in and kind of manage
their Arab brothers, it's justnot going to happen.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
I can't wait to see the the proHamas comments.
They, it's just not going tohappen.
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
I can't wait to see thepro-Hamas comments.
It's like they must have like ahashtag alert for any time
someone on the internet mentionsGaza or Hamas or anything to do
with that region, and they gobuck wild in the comment
sections.
I've blocked quite a few peopleand then, of course, I

(27:06):
antagonized by just making apost saying see what happens
when you say this word.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, and now you get .
You know if you form a protestand you're a student on a visa,
you get deported.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Deported, you're out.
Yeah, we could have thrown thatone in here, but we have so
many topics, but that is right.
Yeah, oh, that whole thing.
Just just just watching theabsolute lunacy, hypocrisy,
insanity from the left, likethat.
They're putting this guy up asthis is your poster child right

(27:39):
now, like once again you arepicking just the worst of the
worst to hit your wagon to right.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Bad candidate.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, yeah, oh my goodness.
Yeah, that could be probably awhole topic of its own.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Actually, you know what?
I know we were going to hit itkind of last.
But let's talk about a badcandidate.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, hey, I like that, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Listen.
So Gavin Newsom for those ofyou that have or have not been
paying attention, gavin Newsom,he is putting himself out there.
He has not declared a 2028candidacy, but if you haven't
seen it, he started a podcast.
He's already had a couple ofvery interesting guests.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
One of the first ones being Charlie Kirk Of all
people who I adore.
Well, I do too.
I think he's great.
I love watching him on collegecampuses.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's one of the most entertaining things there is,
but you know he also had TimWalsh on yes.
Just the other day, and youknow Walsh continue to show how
really dumb he is and some ofthe things that he said.
But but you know, charlie Kirk,at the end of that he caught a
lot of flack because From yourgirl Megan Kelly too.

(28:55):
Yeah, from Megan.
You're right, megan Kelly.
Why?
Why give Newsom a platform?
Why give him the attention?
Why?
Why have a discussion with him?
And Charlie Kirk's a smart guy,and you know and he said,
listen, that's what this is allabout.
We have to have thesediscussions.
And he came out of thatdiscussion and said that his
impression of Gavin Newsom wasthat no one wants to be

(29:18):
president more than Gavin.
Newsom.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Interesting.
I agree with that statementbecause and you, you know, and I
think the thing you cannot noone should be underestimating
gavin newsom at all.
This was wildly, brilliantlystrategic to not only create
this podcast, but he had thisplanned all along, from the

(29:42):
moment the conception of thepodcast came up.
He sat down with whoever hesits down with and said we're
going to get the topconservative voices on our show
and I'm going to show what agood, relatable guy I am,
because he's he's looking at theoptics of everything.

(30:03):
Well, how bad did the Democratstank and why Did all the
research on that?
It's pretty obvious.
You shouldn't need to research.
Much Knows what his nationalapproval ratings look like.
He's got decent approval, nothorrible approval ratings in
California, which blows my mindto no end, but that's besides

(30:26):
the point.
So he knows he's not presentingwell, so he's strategizing.
Well, how could I appeal tomore people?
Oh, I know, let me get some oftheir people over.
So I agree with Charlie and Iagree probably more with Megan,
because you're giving this guyan opportunity to appear likable

(30:47):
.
I don't think he appearedlikable.
I don't think it's.
In my opinion, it's notpossible.
But there are people that aregoing to say, oh well, he's got
some.
Oh well, he's got some middleof the road views.
You know he made a strategicand again I use the word
strategic over and over againbecause I think everything he
does is 100% calculated right.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah.
So he, he did make a middle ofthe road move about a very, very
controversial topic which isgirls in sports, and in the
interview with Charlie Kirk hesaid it is, you know, horribly
unfair.
He said that and so andinteresting to see how that
happened or how what happenedafter that is that James
Garville came out and you know Ialways pay attention to him

(31:30):
because he always keeps prettygood tabs on things he came out
and said that you're going tostart to see more Democrats move
to the middle of the road andmove away from the extreme
position about, you know, boysand girls sports and go with the
Gavin Newsom.
You know that's terrible andyou notice he didn't commit to
anything to changing anything.

(31:52):
All he said was you're right,it's terribly unfair, but you're
going to start to see more ofthat Now.
Charlie Kirk also said he isincredibly charming in person.
I always thought I think thebest word for Newsome is smarmy.
Smarmy is the perfect word he is, he's, you know he's slick back

(32:14):
hair and like, oh, he's just,but he's a used car salesman
kind of feel.
I honestly compare him.
I think he's the liberalversion of Vivek.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
I think there's a lot of.
There's a lot of parallelsthere.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, a good smile and the laugh and the.
You know that, the hair and the.
You know all that um.
But he um go back to you know, ayear ago he took that trip to
mexico with the clintons yes,and we talked about this on the
show is that you know they hewas being considered for a run

(32:51):
either as the VP, like they weregoing to kick Kamala off the
ticket.
That was.
They were talking about that.
They're talking about replacingJoe and that Newsom was one of
the top candidates and I swearand I you know, I wrote a blog
about this today a bunch of 2028presidential predictions but or
election predictions, but Ithink that they and I said this

(33:12):
when it happened.
I think that Clintons took himto Mexico and said wait.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Wait till 2028.
Not only will you be able torun, but you're going to get the
candidacy for the democraticparty.
Um, and I think that all ofthis, like has the podcast, all
of this has been a resultant, isresultant, of that meeting yes
um, so it's all been.
The strategy from the get-go isto get him to the middle of the

(33:37):
road.
Like you said, more likablehave him, you know, give him the
opportunity to relate, forpeople to get to know him.
Um, and I would tell you thathis, his numbers, his, his
numbers, his approval ratingnumbers in California are kind
of cooked.
The numbers that you need tolook at is the shrinking
population.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And that's the counter to just about everything
is.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
California is getting smaller, like people.
There are like U-Haul is thebest, illinois is the same way,
but U-Haul is the best kind ofmeasuring stick is that there
are more U-Hauls coming the best.
Illinois is the same way, butU-Haul is the best measuring
stick is that there are moreU-Hauls coming out than there
are going in, and so people areleaving California at a much
higher rate than they're comingin, and that's a direct result

(34:17):
of Newsom.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, and I hope, as this moves along, as he lining
himself up for this nomination,I I will be part of the people
who will continuously drill homehow horrible he is, and and.
I and I've got the bullet pointsand I'm like ready for him.

(34:40):
You know I can go down themright now.
I'll go down a few of them atleast.
Let's see.
So Medicaid, his Medicaidprogram, which they call
Medi-Cal, right Significantbudget deficits leading to
substantial borrowing.
Let's see, and part of the mainreason for that is, besides
mismanagement in multiple ways,ways they had to cover illegal

(35:11):
immigrants, causing a 3.44billion shortfall under Gavin
Newsom's watch.
Let's see what else.
Between 2018 and 21, the statespent 9.6 billion on
homelessness initiatives, yettheir homeless population
continued to grow.
Education statewide testrevealed that approximately two
thirds of California studentsfailed to meet math standards

(35:31):
and over half over half of thestudents failed to meet the
English standards.
I mean, it's, it's crazy, andprobably because most of them
are are illegal children ofillegal immigrants, probably,
and and they're not, you know,it's just not designed for that.
Let's see.
Of course, crime rates arecrazy, high housing crisis,

(35:56):
environmental disastermanagement Hello, we can talk.
I mean, geez, that's probablythe most fresh in everyone's
mind, right?
The wildfires and themismanagement of all of that,
the forest and water resources,everything, and I mean and this
list goes on and on.
We're going all the way back tothe COVID-19 pandemic.

(36:16):
All of that, the 11.4 billionin unemployment benefits to
ineligible claimants.
So I mean they're just throwing.
They're just like.
They've got this, you knowsuper industrial size fan and
they're just throwing bags ofmoney in front of it and let it
blow around.
I mean that's basically themanagement style.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I read this one today , my favorite one in all of this
.
You know how bad is Newsom kindof thing.
They pay more for gas thanevery state in the union,
including Hawaii, and they'reranked 47th in road quality.
So it's not because of theprice of, you know, gas, it's

(36:59):
not because of the price of oil.
It's because of the taxes.
That's why the price per gallonis so high in California is
because of the state, local tax,city tax, all the taxes and
taxes and taxes that are piledon there.
They pay more than anybody else.
I don't know what you're paying.
The national average is thelowest it's been since in the
last four years.

(37:19):
It's down around three bucks orpretty close to three bucks.
Three and a quarter.
They're paying still like $460,I think, in California, and
they're ranked 47th in roadquality.
So, I mean mismanagement, yousaid it.
They're just money.
They're using it to lightforest fires, I don't know, but

(37:41):
they're using it for kindling.
Yeah, absolutely, Light forestfires.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
I don't know but they're using it for kindling.
Yeah, absolutely so.
You know, if anybody wants tolook at Gavin Newsom, they
should be looking at him as acautionary tale in what he's
done to his state, because it'swhat he'll do to this country.
So I don't care how manyconservative pundits he has on

(38:03):
and how likable he appears, he'sgoing to start getting more
casual too.
He's going to, you know,unbutton more.
Look, a little more ruggedlooking, because they're doing
all of the things that you dowhen you're, you know, vying for
a run at the presidency, andit's all going to be calculated,
orchestrated, strategized andmaneuvered to appeal to as many

(38:28):
people as possible.
And so he's going to be talkingyou know not that he doesn't
already and that they all mostdon't already.
He's going to be talking out ofboth sides of his mouth.
He's going to be telling thisgroup what they want to hear,
and he's going to tell thisgroup what they want to hear,
and he is going to do the samedamn thing he's done to
California, to this country.
So don't get swayed.

(38:49):
And I think we're all too smartto do that.
But you know there's, there areobviously people who are in the
middle, who have remained inthe middle and are willing to go
either way to whoever appealsto them.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
That's who he's aiming for, you know he's going
to be the Dem, he's going to bethe candidate though.
Mark Yep, he's the and and I'mgoing to, I'm going to go way
out on a limb and I'm going totell you Newsome Whitmer, 2028.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Ooh, wow, wow, yep, okay, okay, I could see it, I
can see that it can't have two,can't, can't have two white guys
on there.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
No, definitely not it's Biden-Harris all over again
.
It's two poor candidates,underqualified career politician
types.
It's the exact same ticket,just two different names.
But you heard it here first.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Newsom-Whitmer 2028.
That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think you know I mean I don't
know if they're just smokescreens, you know I I'm sure
you've heard it too but you knowI hear them throw out, uh,
kamala Harris and AOC, uh thatJasmine Crockett they even threw
her name out there.
I'm like, are you like now?
You're just now, you're justtrying.
You're just trying to rilepeople up and get them angry so

(40:08):
they're not paying too muchattention to what's going on
over there.
Yeah, part of what I talkedabout in that blog.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
You know you guys can go read it my website but it's.
You're going to see atransition in the Dems.
So the old guard Schumer Pelosi, all of them, are going to be
gone.
A transition in the Dems.
So the old guard Schumer Pelosi, all of them, are going to be
gone.
You are going to start to seeAOC Crockett.

(40:35):
That younger group is going totake more of a leadership role,
which is not going to be a goodthing.
They're going to become moreextreme.
They're going to become morepolarizing, but Newsom is going
to get the candidacy by default.
He's the only viable candidatethey have.
It's still not going to bodewell for them, but that's my
guess at this point.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And the thing and we've talkedabout this at various times
about the Democrats and eventhough they appear to be and by
for all intents and purposesthey are truly imploding.
They're having a massiveidentity crisis.
They are truly a mess.
But I, I personally and I knowyou wouldn't either I will never

(41:16):
underestimate them, becausethey have always played the long
game, and that's what they'redoing right now.
They're taking their hits andthey are strategizing there's
that word again they arestrategizing their next big move
, what they're going to do.
So, just because they're a messright now, don't discount them,
don't, don't undermine them,because they're scary people.

(41:42):
They just are.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, I think the GOP is doing the same thing, though
I think Trump vans for four.
I think you're going to seeVance Rubio eight, you know for
the next two, like that, andthen, and then Rubio, who will
only be 64, 12 years from now,will be the next presidential

(42:05):
candidate.
There's, I think, a long-termtrajectory strategy on the GOP
side too, and I think they'rebreeding it now, which I think
is good, so we'll see how itplays out.
I know that's a long way out,but Gavin Newsom's taking steps,
so we all got to pay attention.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yes, do not take your eyes off that smarmy, smarmy
man.
Speaking of smarmy, we can moveright into this.
Smarmy is actually even toonice of a word Sleazy, trashy,
garbage, filthy 31 total agentson two protective details.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
That's what they were getting.
Hunter had 18.
You know his sister had 13.
And you know they sisterex-wife whatever she is, I don't
even know, it's so inbred Idon't even pay attention.

(43:13):
But the Biden kids who hadSecret Service protection have
lost it.
President.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Trump has revoked it and you know they were, just as
an example, traveling to SouthAfrica.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yes, we have said right now, they're there right
now, aren't they?
Yeah, south Africa anymore.
Right, there is some horrific,you know crap in the and people
will talk about apartheid.
What you've got is reverseapartheid going on.
Right now, you have whitefarmers being murdered by the
dozens you know across SouthAfrica, and that's where the

(43:39):
Biden kids decided to go onvacation.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Two protective details 31 total agents at a
minimum, not to mention thetransportation and everything
else that goes along with it.
Right?
Not like they're flyingcommercial, no?
So you know all the supportstructure that goes with that
all gone.
President Trump said no moreand he shut it off.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Good, yeah, and of course you know the left is
screaming and crying.
They think that's terrible.
You're.
Of course you know the left isscreaming and crying.
They think that's terrible.
You're going to.
You know they're unsafe.
It's terrible.
You're going to leave themunprotected.
Nobody cares enough about them.
They're not under the threat ofassassination or murder.
Nobody cares, like this hasnever been a credible issue for

(44:23):
them at all.
So it's just a flat no.
Yeah, Listen by the way, hireyour own security, exactly Like
if you feel scared.
If I felt scared for my life,not only do I have to protect
myself, if I felt that scared, Iwould have to hire out of my
pocket.
Nobody's going to pay that forme.
So, yeah, I don't have anysympathy there whatsoever.

(44:45):
It should be based on securityneeds period, not political
titles right.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah, political kids, presidential kids, you know,
have gotten secret serviceprotection for various reasons,
mostly to protect them fromkidnapping, which would allow
people to, you know, influence apresident or former president,
right, right, joe Biden's, thatman's on it that he holds
nothing like you couldn't getanything out of him if you

(45:14):
wanted to National secretssecurity, whatever One.
He doesn't remember anything to, he's, he's not long for this
world, so you know.
And oh, by the way, they haveplenty of money.
Yes, Know that so you know, andoh, by the way, they have plenty
of money.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yes, we know that.
So Plenty of money.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, pulling Secret Service protection for the Biden
kids was the right thing to do.
Now, you know people would askwho else, who else has it?
Why do they have it?
I'm willing to bet that theObama kids have it Right and
they should.
I think that Chelsea Clinton hasSecret Service protection to an

(45:49):
extent, even if it's a one ortwo, as as she should.
You know, obviously, that theTrump kids in some form or
fashion I don't think all theTrump kids do I think they pay
out of pocket for security forthe most part.
But I know some of the younginsyou know got some coverage, as
they should.
He's a sitting president, right, but like the Biden kids, no,

(46:12):
no way.
I don't even think the Bushgirls have it anymore.
Like dad's been out of officefor too long.
And you know I said ChelseaClinton, it's not because of
Bill, it is because of Hillaryat this point, like she is more,
you know, her being the sexstate during the Obama
administration much morerelevant than her husband, yeah,
as far as national securitygoes.

(46:33):
So you know, the Bush girls areprobably irrelevant at this
point.
You know, george, you know,doesn't really have anything.
He doesn't have anything tocarry, doesn't really have
anything.
He doesn't have everything tocarry, so, but yeah, this was a
waste of taxpayer dollarsprotecting Hunter and, and you
know, the, the Biden kids, soI'm glad he pulled it.
I know, like you said, there'speople that are, you know,

(46:54):
griping and complaining and Ireally, really don't care.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I don't care.
Like I don't even, I don't evencare enough to debate it with
them, like if they came, came,if they were.
Like, don't you think it'sterrible that?
No?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
no, no.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I mean be mad if you want.
You could be mad, but it's noteven don't care at all.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh.
So here's something that, um,as soon as I saw, I thought of
you.
This didn't turn out to be asexciting as I thought it was
going to be for you.

(47:28):
Is that the case, clay?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Well, so two things.
One, I was really really afraidthis was going to turn in the
Epstein Files, part 2.
I really, when the presidentsaid that and he's like, oh,
it's all coming out tomorrow, Iwas like no, and they did it,
they dropped it.
And they dropped 80,000 pagesand as far as I know, as far as

(47:53):
I understand, it is allunredacted.
So all of the information is inthere.
Now we don't know what's not inthere, right, that's the thing.
But as far as anybody can tellright now it's all there.
It's 80,000 pages, it's 6,000documents or whatever it is, and
it's out there.
It's going to take people awhile to dig through it and

(48:15):
that's what's going on now.
And oh, by the way, not justread through it but also find
holes and gaps and seams andinconsistencies and essentially
what you're going to have to dois a whole nother investigation
of the investigation to reallyunderstand.

(48:41):
There are a couple ofinteresting tidbits in there
already of the CIA post-WorldWar II was really involved in
that whole world of really deep,dark, evil ops in the
anti-Soviet, anti-russiapost-World War II era.
He ran from Washington DC theday after the assassination Ran,

(49:04):
ran to friends in New Jerseystate and six months later was
found dead of suicide bulletbehind the ear, assassination
style, okay.
And he and he had a ton ofconnections within the CIA,
within the world, that dark,deep, dark world.
So there's a memo in thereabout Underhill and about him

(49:27):
saying that this was a CIAoperation or the CIA had
involvement or something to thateffect.
That is one of the number onethings that's come out.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Which has been suspected.
I mean, that's what people havebeen flat out saying for years,
so not a huge surprise.
On that.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
What else because it really doesn't have to do with
the initial investigation is.
There's a document in therefrom 1994 that is a quote from
jfk jr that he wrote in a memoor wrote in a letter to to
senator joe biden, saying I knowyou're a traitor to the united

(50:06):
states.
So the whoa.
Yeah, the first time I saw thatdocument I'm like this is ai,
it's garbage, it's bullshit.
Why would it even be in here?
And and I and I can't explainthe why is it in the file?
That I don't know, but I'veseen it in enough places now in
reliable sources that it hasbeen vetted as part of what was

(50:28):
released.
But that was five years beforehe died in that very weird plane
.
You know flying incident, youknow JFK Jr, but he made an
accusation against Senator JoeBiden that he was a traitor to
the United States.
So that has gained a ton ofattention in the midst of all

(50:52):
this, but it's going to takefolks a while.
It's a lot of documentation,it's a lot of information.
There is no hard evidenceanymore.
That's the other thing thatpeople need to understand.
The magic bullet is gone,kennedy is.
The body's gone, like the caris gone, it's all gone, so all

(51:15):
you're going to be able to lookat is documents, documentation
and those kinds of things.
There was one other piece inthere that is a little
interesting is that supposedlyJack Ruby met with Oswald within
two weeks before theassassination.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I did see that one, I did see that.
Yeah, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Again, people, it's puzzle pieces.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah.
Yeah 80,000 pages.
I'm sure you know if anyonewere to and I'm sure people are
doing this, and don't come fromme, guys that I'm bringing AI
into this in a positive way,because everybody gets mad
anytime you want to use AI forsomething.
But it's a great resource, agreat tool for somebody to put

(52:03):
that information in there andhave it do the work for you.
I don't know if it can handle adocument of that size.
You'd probably have to likepiecemeal it, and I'm sure
people are doing exactly that.
You know telling it what tolook for and and how to kind of
just take out that informationand bullet point it or something
and get all the relevant stuffout of it.
So you know, hopefully I'mactually saying hopefully

(52:26):
somebody is doing that and wecan get it a little bit faster,
because it is fascinating to saythe least, exactly the same
thing.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I was like this is what we want AI to do Let it
read it, download it, analyze it, put it all together and then
spit out the answer that saysthis is the most likely based on
the documents that are put inthere.
I thought exactly the samething.
This is the perfect application, in my opinion, of AI.
I really do agree.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
It truly is.
I mean, there's certainly a lotof really good, useful
applications for it.
It's just like everything elsein this life, people ruin
everything.
You know.
They just do, um, you know it'ssomething going.
Going back to that, of course.
Um, I saw, and I don't evenknow why this came up in my, my

(53:19):
Tik TOK feed, uh, but it did,and I thought of you again.
Anything that comes to JFK, Ithink of you because I know
that's a strong interest ofyours.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
But, and you'll probably know the guy's name,
the the secret service agent whojumped onto the car.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I watched yeah, I watched an old interview with
him.
If I'm thinking of the rightguy, I think he is the guy that
jumped onto the car.
Um, and it was.
I was crying within seconds ofwatching him because he was so,
and you've probably seen theinterview.
Um, I'll put it in here too foryou guys.
I'll find it and put it in.

(54:00):
Um, it is so heartbreaking.
That man is was so traumatizedby what he viewed as his failure
, his failing to protect him.
It was gut-wrenching.
It was probably one of the onlythings that I've seen that
didn't feel so conspiracy theory, this that it was just a man in

(54:24):
absolute turmoil.
It's so sad.
Of course, I'm going to makeyou all watch it and get sad
with me, but, yeah, have youseen that?

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I have, I, I've seen that and I, I know, like you
know, there was a movie therewas a Clint Eastwood movie, uh,
years ago, where he was a anelderly secret service agent
aging Um and and he wasessentially that guy but was
still in the Secret Service andeventually got back on the

(54:54):
presidential detail and someother things.
It was actually a good movie.
I think it was called In theLine of Fire.
Go back and take a look at it.
But he was that guy and he didhave that raging guilt that he
had screwed up and the presidenthad died on his watch and so,
yes, there that the story ofthat agent and I his name
escapes me at the moment, but Iknow who you're talking about.

(55:16):
It was one of the guys riding onthe back of the car and he was
the one who dove on the trunkand he was the one who you know.
But he did, he was riddled withguilt for the rest of his life.
You know, I I can't evenimagine you know, shouldering
that Um and I, I think that noamount of therapy, I think that

(55:36):
nothing is rectifying that andgave that man any you know kind
of you know respite before hepassed away.
I think he carried that guilttill the day he died, which is
awful, but but I mean it's.
He was literally the guy theclosest, the whole thing.
So yeah, for sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
All right, guys, and now that I just made everybody
feel so sad, we're going tobring it back around.
We're ending on such an amazingmoment.
We have the moments right here.
Let's watch it together.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
They're on your screen continuing to monitor
progress of the Dragonspacecraft and we're going to
stand by for Splashdown, locatedin the Gulf of America, off the
coast of Tallahassee, Florida,and splashdown crew nine back on

(56:38):
earth.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Wow, that is so cool, so cool, so uh.
To state the obvious, I'm sureeverybody knows these are the
two astronauts uh, butch WintersI scrolled down to the wrong
part on my here but uh, butchand Sonny and I'm sorry I'm not
grabbing their last names here.
I think it's Williams.
Yes, sonny Williams and Butch.
Where's his name, wilmore?
There we go.
They were stranded by the Bidenadministration in space for

(57:22):
nine months.
I think their mission wasprobably like maybe a month long
, maybe a few weeks long.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
I don't even think it was that long, not even that
long Okay.
Shorter than that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Really Okay, so we're going with nine months.
Then, so nine months, they werestranded.
Elon Musk offered the Bidenadministration to go and get
them.
He said I can do it, I can wantme to do it, I I'm happy to.
And they said nah, we're good.
Um, so that was that.
So they were stranded there foran unbelievable length of time

(57:53):
and Elon got the go ahead.
His SpaceX dragon went right upthere, snatched him up, brought
him home and I think they have,like, probably a really long
recovery right After this,because there's so much that
goes on to your, with your body,like I was reading little bits
of this and I was actually sohorrified for them on their

(58:16):
behalf.
But, um, but I'm sure anythingis better than still being
stranded up there indefinitely,just to be able to be home and
with your family and and touchgrass.
To touch grass, to feel air, ohall the things.
I just I cried watching.
What a surprise.
I cried.

(58:36):
Yeah, I cried watching that too.
So great.
Did you see the dolphins?
I did.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
The dolphins were great, so cool, Just a nice
little touch, you know.
And, and of course you know so,she actually set a record most
hours on spacewalk by a femaleastronaut ever, and really only
because she was up there for solong.
So she spent, I think it's, 62and a half hours outside the

(59:04):
spacecraft, outside the spacestation, which is the most by
any female, which is awesome, Um, but you know, of course, in
the immediacy after they, youknow, splash down, um, you know
a lot of a lot of hate.
There's a lot of conspiracytheorists, you know she came out
and before they put her infront of a camera and and they

(59:25):
did it with him too they cleanedher up.
Yeah, right, they of course.
They brushed out her hair.
They gave her a little bit ofdarker makeup.
You know, listen, when you liveunder conditions like that,
you're going to lose a lot ofcolor, you're going to look very
gaunt because the food is notfilling, it's nutritious but not
pulling right.
So they gave him a little bitof makeup touch up before they

(59:46):
put him in front of a camera andpeople are like it's total
bogus, like she's been in spacefor nine months.
Why does she have a tan?
And her hair is yes, yes, theydid.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
It's called makeup.
It's called like can you givethe woman like give her a break.
Can she look decent?
Like do you want her still?
What do you want her to do?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Come out on the interview with their hair still
standing straight up and arethey like stop being mean, geez,
yes.
And then there's the, and thenthere's the other ones.
You know I I've had it andagain I'm taking from you.
I haven't, but I've had somedetractors like well, musk got
tasked in august by biden.
First of all, he didn't gettasked, he did volunteer, um.
And then he said he got taskedto have it done by February.
So Trump doesn't get any creditfor this.

(01:00:35):
Okay, so first of all, again,he doesn't get tasked, he's
tasked, he volunteered.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
He's a private citizen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
And oh, by the way, they're like well, he was a
month behind schedule.
Like, okay, they were going tospace Right.
Like they were a month behindschedule, maybe, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I'm sorry, he was trying to make sure it was safe.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Listen, it's the same .
These are the same people whoyou know.
President Biden blamedPresident Trump for four years
for everything that went wrong.
He took credit for four yearsfor everything that went right
Right, even the things that were, you know, done by President
Trump.
That carried over into theBiden administration.
Obama blamed Bush for eightyears Right, and took credit for

(01:01:22):
you know what I mean.
And listen, bush blamed Clintonfor a lot of crap for eight
years.
This is, this is the way thatthese things work.
So if you want to say PresidentTrump doesn't get any credit
for this, fine, okay, I thinkyou're wrong.
I think you're wrong.
I think you know.
He's the guy that's in thechair right now.
He made the decision to go, hegave Elon the thumbs up, right,

(01:01:45):
and so he gets the credit.
That's what happens when you're, when you're the guy in charge,
and it happens under your watch, you get the credit period.
Right, whether you like it ornot.
So, um, but Elon Musk is thehero in this.
You know he did a real lifespace rescue and people just
want to hate, um, and I feelsorry for everybody who does,

(01:02:05):
because you know you're justleading a miserable life, you
really really are.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah, you are a sad sack of human flesh, Just
absolutely pathetic and sad, andI've seen the meme floating
around.
I probably already shared it aswell that you know.
Just basically saying you knowyou got people out here torching
and blowing up and vandalizingTesla's.

(01:02:30):
Meanwhile Elon Musk is savingpeople in space.
Loser morons, you.
I just added that last part andthat wasn't in the meeting.
I'm just adding that in just alittle personal interjection
there.
But yeah, you, absolute losersLike this guy is just sending

(01:02:52):
rocket ships into space andrescuing stranded astronauts and
you're kicking cars and keyingthem and blowing them up.
Losers, Absolute losers.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Can't do it.
Yeah, I actually.
I posted the other day and Isaid that anybody right now who
is vandalizing Tesla vehicle,Tesla charging station, Tesla
dealerships, it should becharged with domestic terrorism.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Oh, by the way, Pam Bondi agrees with me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yes, she does, you know and I've had people.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Oh well, you know, please, please, define terrorism
.
Ok, well, I've been doing thatfor the last like I don.
You know, please, please defineterrorism.
Okay, well, I've been doingthat for the last like I don't
know 20 years of my life.
Yeah, no problem, you know, Ihad people call it silly.
I had people call it irrational.
I had people, but you know thatthat the violence and that and
the hate and the vitriol andeverything that is coming out of

(01:03:46):
this is reflexive, it'sirrational, but that's where
people are at right now and it'sreally.
We're in a sad state of affairsright now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Oh, yeah, we really are.
It's so sad and all I want tosee from that is very, very
swift action and very, verysevere, the most severe
penalties that can be enforcedby law and by the courts on
these people.
And if it's a slap on the wrist, you better go change that law
right now and make it domesticterrorism, because it is, it

(01:04:23):
absolutely is, particularly, youknow, maybe not the king, the
car, I mean I'm going with it.
Yeah, make it that.
But the, the blowing up of, of,you know, dealerships and
whatnot, yeah, that's domesticterrorism and a story you know,

(01:04:44):
yep.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I agree that the astronauts are home and and we
trying to end it on a happy noteand the astronauts are home and
good for them to be back onterra firma.
It's always a great occasionfor that and this one, I think,
was extra special.
So we're just going to go withthat one and celebrate.
Oh, by the way, I forgot to dothis top of the show.
Right, we recorded this 4.30 pmEastern Time, wednesday.

(01:05:10):
Yes, 4.30 Eastern Time,wednesday.
All right, so you know you'llbe seeing this Thursday night.
Elsa and I have made acollective decision that we are
not going to record next week.
We are sorry, we apologize upfront.
You will get this show thisweek.
We are going to take a breaknext week.
We've been going for a prettylong time without missing a show

(01:05:32):
, and Elsa is going to see hergrandbabies, and you know
there's lots going on.
So we're both going to take abreather for a week.
But yeah, so another great show.
We got through all six.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
We did it, we did it.
We actually even even like kindof threw in a couple little
things in in there too,wolverman.
So, yay us.
I hope you guys enjoyed um, wealways enjoy doing this and and,
uh, engaging with you guys inthe comments section.
So please jump in and tell usyour thoughts and even if you
disagree, we're okay with that.
We're big boys and big girls.

(01:06:04):
We can handle it and we willsee you, not next week but the
following week.
So take care, guys and Clay, goahead, close them right out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Hey, like Elton said, we'll see you in two weeks.
Thanks everybody forparticipating.
We love doing this.
We love doing it with you anddoing it for you.
So, as always from me, keepmoving, keep shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
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