Shutdown Standoff And A City On Edge

We unpack week six of the shutdown, who is blocking a deal, and how it’s hitting families, flyers, and the force. Then we break down New York City’s election turn, media framing of Trump’s 60 Minutes interview, cartel crackdowns, stopping genocide in Africa, Cheney’s legacy, and a major climate pivot.

• same-day taping to cover rapid shifts
• Democrats blocking reopen votes and negotiations
• WIC, SNAP, military pay at risk as reserves dry up
• FAA-driven airline cutbacks and holiday pressure
• Obama’s past shutdown stance contrasted with today
• Virginia AG controversy and standards for office
• youth female vote shaping blue-state outcomes
• NYC’s hard-left turn and likely business exodus
• editing and context in Trump’s 60 Minutes segment
• cartel boat strikes and proposed cross-border ops
• moral case to stop genocide in Nigeria
• Cheney’s mixed legacy and party break
• climate narrative pivot and investment pullbacks

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
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And now it's time for the show.

SPEAKER_03 (00:22):
Well, hey my friend.
How are you?

SPEAKER_04 (00:25):
I'm good.
It's been a it's been a week,uh, but uh but I'm good.
How are you?

SPEAKER_03 (00:30):
I am good.
I know you've had a busy week.
I have had, I've actually had abusy week.
I don't know why I say that likeit's such a surprise, but yeah,
it went by fast.
I feel like everything, I feellike this whole year has gone by
extremely fast.
I I literally was summer oneminute ago, and now we're almost
at Thanksgiving, and I can't, Ijust can't wrap my brain around

(00:51):
it.
I don't know if it's like a agething, like the older you get,
the faster time seems to move orwhat, but I I just I can't don't
say that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02):
But you're right, like daylight savings hit, and I
was like, it's November.
Like, what is what is going onhere?
With yeah, the year has movedvery, very quickly.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11):
So fast.
So uh we'll tell everybody rightoff the bat we are doing
something unusual that we don'tnormally do.
Today, recording time isThursday, as you guys should
well know by now.
We normally record on Wednesdayand we air the show on Thursday,
and we are recording and airingall in the same day.
So fun, fun, fun for all of us,I guess.

SPEAKER_04 (01:34):
Folks, it's five o'clock Eastern time.
So we've got uh about whatfour-hour difference between uh
recording and airing.
So it'll be uh about as currentas it can get.
But this is the result of Alsaand I having busy lives.
This is this was uh about thetime that we could iron things
out and both be on the samepage.
So um it'll be uh a little morecurrent than normal, but uh we

(01:56):
we want we always want to getthe show out for you guys, and
we got some great topics thisweek.
Lots going on, lots to talkabout, and we will get started
right after this.

SPEAKER_07 (02:04):
Six weeks down the Democrats are still holding
America on state to double downon bad ideas and the electing
total.
The president faces the50-minute body again.
U.S.
troops finally former vicepresident, the legacy of the 20

(02:28):
minutes, and even though wefinally admit the planet after
let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:35):
Let's talk about it.
Well, here we are, week six inuh the Schumer shutdown.
And um, I would have they shutdown, I think it was like 15
times now so far.
They have shot down everyattempt to reopen the
government, uh holding us allhostage still.
Um, and for you know, all of thefolks that continuously want to,

(02:55):
especially them, we know it'sthe them leading this charge, to
blame uh President Trump forthis.
Um we got a little graphic herethat that tells you the truth of
all this of who's actually doingit.
So um it's it's definitely notPresident Trump.
It is definitely the Democrats.
And I made a I made aprojection, and I I don't know

(03:16):
how right I'll be.
I I feel like this will be overwithin um uh a matter of days,
potentially, because you knowthose elections are done, served
their you know, served theirpurpose to a degree, and now
they're gonna start going, well,I think it's time.
I think it's time.
Do you am I crazy?
Am I wrong?
What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 (03:35):
Listen, I I I blew it from the get-go.
Remember?
I this is my most wrongprojection of all time.
I think thought this was gonnabe under two weeks.
I thought it was gonna be about10 days.
Clearly not.
We're rolling into week six.
Um, you're right about theelection.
I I think that played a and andI think uh certain people, I

(03:56):
don't know if Jeffries has beenpublic about it, but there have
been politicians that have beenbeen public, publicly said that
they were gonna wait until afterthe elections to to kind of you
know attempt to resolve this.
Um I I you know, but I alsoheard now they're talking about
Thanksgiving.
Like they want to be throughThanksgiving.
They're actually activelytalking about ruining people's

(04:18):
holidays to try and blame it onPresident Trump.
Um, you know, um John Fettermanhas said that this is political
theater and it's embarrassing.
Uh, he's embarrassed for hisparty.
Um, so it's not a secret.
And and those who are beinghonest, as you talked about with
the graphic, those who are beinghonest understand that this is
not President Trump.
He can't affect this.

(04:39):
Folks, he cannot affect this.
Um and and you know, Speaker ofthe House has been involved, and
and so they're doing everythingthey can.
And but you're right, I thinkwe're 15 votes now where the
Democrats have voted um to youknow continue the shutdown and
not even negotiate.
Zero negotiation, zerodiscussion.

(04:59):
Who are you hearing was gonnacross?
Because it's gonna take, youknow, I think they still need
maybe four or five more withFetterman, um, four or five more
to get it to pass.
Or are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 (05:10):
I don't know.
Yeah.
I well, you know, I mean, thebiggest thing, the the thing
that I think is really making meand probably a lot of people the
most furious is that these SOBsare still collecting their
paycheck.

SPEAKER_05 (05:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (05:24):
And that is the highest insult of all.
And I think that is needs to beone of the very first things to
change, like as immediately aspossible.
And I don't think we shouldstand for anything less than
this.
If you're gonna shut down thegovernment and take food out of
people's mouths and paychecksout of people's pockets, you're
not getting one.

(05:44):
You are not getting a paycheck.
Screw that.
So that needs to changeeffective immediately.
And I don't know how that works,because I don't know the things,
but I, you know, again, it we Ithink we talked about this
before.

SPEAKER_04 (05:56):
You know, President Trump obviously donates his
paycheck every month.
Um, you know, he's$400,000.
He's done it, he did it throughthe first administration, he's
gonna do it, he's been doing itthrough this one.
So he donates it.
I don't know how to shut it off.
Um, but I don't think it shouldbe optional.
I agree with you.
I I think, you know, I don'tknow if there are any.
I haven't heard of any.
I'm sure there are some Congresspeople out there that are

(06:18):
donating their check.
Um, but it shouldn't beoptional.
I think they should all get itturned off.
Um, and you know, the presidenthas said the same thing.
He's also pushing for thenuclear option, understanding
that that has long-term impactof getting rid of the
filibuster.
Um so if the you know the GOP orwhen the GOP loses control of
the House or the Senate, thenthey won't have that at their

(06:38):
disposal either.
Um, so doing that is uh, youknow, that's a you can't there's
no undue button on that one.
So um it's a deliberatedecision.
But what all what is alsohappening the longer that this
goes on is that the reservefunds that do exist are being
expended.
So, you know, we're dipping intofunding that was either

(07:00):
allocated for something else oryou know, was uh a treasure
chest or a reserve or just incase that's out there, you know,
the president wants to reinstateum WIC and SNAP for those that
need American citizens.
Um, you know, they have delvedinto some defense funding to
make sure the military hasgotten paid.
They've taken some donations tomake sure the military's gotten

(07:21):
paid.
But folks, those extra dollarsare running out.
Um, you know, and and just as anexample, you know, the military
for the most part gets paid thefirst and the 15th of every
month.
Um snap with benefits, you know,and tied into the election, like
you were talking about, come outfirst of the month.
Um, you know, military benefitscome out once a month, first of
the month.
So some of these things arehitting those cycles where they

(07:44):
had they've used the reserve orthey're dipping into the reserve
and there's not enough for asecond one or a third one in
many cases, and it's starting totake its toll.
I have friends still either onactive duty or um civilians who
work on military bases, andthings are starting to shut down
in that.
Um dining facilities, chowhalls, as they're commonly, mess
halls as they're commonly someof those are starting to shut

(08:05):
down because they don't have thefunding to buy the food to
prepare for the soldiers,sailors, airmen, marines.
Okay.
So now those kids who aren'tgetting a paycheck or are
getting partial paycheck nowhave to go out and get food that
they are not being even umfunded to buy.
Um because when you do it in achow hall, you you get a card
that says, hey, I can eat herefor nothing.
It's taken out of my check.

(08:26):
They're also getting to thepoint where the commissaries,
the grocery stores on the baseswhich provide tax-free, more
affordable food, shopping formilitary families, are also
approaching shutdown becausethey don't have the funding to
keep them open as well.
So, you know, we're starting toget into second, third, and
fourth order effects of theshutdown that are starting to

(08:46):
affect people as much as thepresident's, you know, sec war
and everybody else want tocontinue to pay federal law
enforcement, you know, FAA andall those folks, even that extra
money, spare money, backupmoney, contingency money is
starting to run out.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (09:01):
Uh it's so infuriating all of it, and and
that there are enough, certainlyenough people that are believing
that this is President Trump'sfault, the Republicans' fault,
when it's so blatant and clearthat it it's it's these guys
holding this ransom.

(09:24):
And, you know, I as painful asit is, I don't disagree with
President Trump about you knownot bowing down to their you
know, this hijacking and this uhdeliberate sabotage.
You give into this, it sets thatprecedent.
But this none of this should beallowed.
They should not be allowed toshut down the government like

(09:44):
this.
It just simply shouldn't even beapparent.
I know, like, well, I mean, youknow, the horse is already out
of the barn.
It's it's well happening.
I think this is the uh longest,I know that it's the longest
shutdown in history.
I don't know what the longestwas before this one.
Do you have any idea?

SPEAKER_04 (09:59):
I it was it was not close to this.
Like I think maybe in the24-day-ish world, and I'm well
beyond that.
Um, you know, and today they thegovernment basically told the
the four major US airlines, hey,you need to start cutting
flights because we're not goingto be able to manage airspace
like we have been, you know,manning staffing is going down.

(10:22):
Um they told Amer AmericanUnited Delta and I think
Southwest to start pairing back,um, canceling flights, reducing
number of flights.
So um that I think uh if youthink in in terms of con what
how Congress people live, ifyou're not within driving
distance of Washington, DC, umit is now going to become very

(10:46):
inconvenient to return homeduring time off.

SPEAKER_05 (10:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (10:50):
Um and this is one of the reasons I don't think
that this is gonna go intoThanksgiving.

SPEAKER_03 (10:54):
Is because it'll start to affect them, right?

SPEAKER_04 (10:57):
Yeah, and and I really, really think that what
um especially Speaker Johnsonwill do is he will hold them
there.
He will tell them they are notgoing home for Thanksgiving
until you know, until they getthis thing resolved.
I I actually think he shouldlock them in now.
Absolutely he should and justand stay there until it's done.
Yes, uh, you know, take giveeverybody 24 hours and be like,

(11:17):
hey, go home, uh pack a bag,bring some clothes, get your two
things.
Settle in, yeah, and uh settlein because nobody's going home
until we figure this out.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, it's uh it'sembarrassing, it's shameful.
The entire world is watchingthis craziness go on.
Um, and uh and listen, folks, weyou know, Elston and I both, we
said this last week.

(11:38):
There are plenty of people outthere, American citizens, who
need snap and whip.
Okay, we do not believe, want,agree with anybody to miss out
on those benefits.
We are talking about women, youknow, and infants and children
in need.
We're talking about low-incomefamilies in need.
Those benefits, as corrupt asthat system can be, there are

(11:59):
people who really, really doneed that stuff to survive.
Yeah and and you know, we wouldlike to see that restored.
Obviously, there's concerns withthe military, there's concerns
with uh FAA, there's concernwith federal law enforcement.
Um, but really I think gettingthose folks the benefits that
they need is priority numberone.
Um and then, you know, and thenwe can move from there.
But this is, I mean, it's it'sembarrassing and it's shameful.

SPEAKER_03 (12:20):
It's it's shameful.
And you know, I came across thiswe I'm gonna share another video
with you guys, and uh I I usedit for some content I created, I
don't know, last week orwhatever.
And um, you know, I I posted asI just simply said that the
president uh had this to sayabout these shutdowns, and then
of course did the counter of a aliberal um blaming Trump, and

(12:43):
then I played this video here.
Give me a second, I pull it upfor you.
Hold on, it's gonna take amoment because I rem I
remembered it, honestly, Iremembered it at the last minute
that I have it.
Okay, so here it is.

SPEAKER_02 (12:56):
Not like the law, they can go through Republicans
do not like the law, they can gothrough the regular channels and
processes to try to change it.
That's why we have elections.
So they they they can go throughthe normal processes and
procedures of a democracy, butyou do not threaten the full
faith and credit of the UnitedStates of America.
Shutting down the governmentjust because you don't like a
law that was passed out to takeno Congress before this one has

(13:20):
ever in history irresponsibleenough to threaten an economic
shutdown to suggest America notpay its bills just to threaten
blackmail a president intogiving them some concessions.
I will not negotiate on anythingwhen it comes to the full faith

(13:41):
and credit of the United Statesof America.
We're not gonna submit to thiskind of total irresponsibility.
Congress needs to pay our billson time, Congress needs to pass
a budget on time, Congress needsto put an end to governing from
crisis to crisis.
Republicans do not like it.

SPEAKER_03 (13:53):
So, I mean, there you have it.
If you don't want to listen toPresident Trump say it, listen
to your your buddy there, Obama,who said it first.
You know, amazing, isn't it?
Like memory is so fickle.

SPEAKER_04 (14:08):
It's all listen, he's the same guy that, you
know, him and Hillary shut downthe border, you know, Bill said
it too, you know, all of thosethings, and now, you know, oh,
situations evolve and thingschange.

SPEAKER_03 (14:19):
Yeah, all the only thing that was changed.

SPEAKER_04 (14:22):
A year ago was telling young black men to vote
for Kamala because she, youknow, she came from where you
came from, and she grew up thesame way you grew up with.
And then he turns around and heendorses the white lady for
governor in Virginia as opposedto the black Jamaican immigrant,
marine former Marine officer,fully qualified, former

(14:44):
lieutenant governor of thestate.
He doesn't endorse her, heendorses the white lady.
Right.
So again, this is it's allpolitical theater.
Obama is shows his face to begarbage more and more every
single day.
Um, you know, and and you'reright, you know, as much as they
want to blame President Trump,President Obama just laid
everything out for him about howwrong it really is.

(15:07):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 (15:08):
And you know, and it it goes to prove that every
single time it doesn't matterwhat's being said, it matters
who's saying it, right?
It's always about who's sayingit because they are literally
saying essentially the sameexact thing.
And it was received from Obamawith the buzz and cheers, and
oh, you're so amazing, you're sobrilliant.
And from President Trump, it'sreceived with you know outright

(15:32):
hostility and scorn and mockeryand all of the things.
So, you know, these people, thiscrowd just invalidates
themselves over and over andover again, and you know, every
everybody's just sick and tiredof it, it except for the blue
states.
They they just love it, theyjust love it.

(15:53):
So I, you know, uh first andforemost, Clay, I just I want to
say uh congratulations, really,like seriously to Virginia, um,
because I mean, bravo, bravo,bro, vo.
And and if that, you know, ifthat isn't just prize enough for
you, Virginia, um, we have this.

(16:16):
So uh this is a reading of atext message exchange.

SPEAKER_08 (16:22):
Now it's one.
Three people, two bullets.
Gilbert, Hitler, pole Tod.
Gilbert gets two bullets to thehead.
Spoiler, put Gilbert in the crewwith the two worst people you
know, and he receives bothbullets every time.
Colleague.
K, please stop.
Jones.
LOL, okay, okay.
I mean, do I think Todd andJennifer are evil and that
they're breeding little factors?

(16:44):
Yes.
Kollie, you're talking abouthoping Jennifer Gilbert's
children would die.
Jones.
Yes, I've told you this before.
Only when people feel painpersonally do they move on
policy.

SPEAKER_03 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, good on you.

SPEAKER_04 (17:02):
That guy got elected as the senior law enforcement
official for the state ofVirginia.

SPEAKER_03 (17:09):
Make it make sense, Clay.
Make it make sense.

SPEAKER_04 (17:14):
I I don't want it to make sense.
What I want it to make iscriminal charges.

SPEAKER_03 (17:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (17:17):
Because what that is is a threat to to another human
being and their family.

SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (17:23):
Uh, I I at a minimum in most states, that is assault.
Right.
Um, and I know it's a privateconversation, and it really
doesn't matter because it's notprivate anymore.

SPEAKER_05 (17:31):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (17:31):
Um what I would really really what I would
really love is that Pam Bondipresents federal charges against
him and charges him as a felon,and he is disbarred because
that's what he deserves.

SPEAKER_05 (17:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (17:45):
This has to happen.
That that's not evenretribution, folks.
That's not political, you know,uh law fair, whatever you want
to call it.
That is a human being thatshould never be anywhere near
practicing law, let alone lawenforcement.

SPEAKER_05 (17:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (18:00):
Like that, that's not kidding.
And and folks, I I have about asdark a sense of humor as a you
know multi-combat tour kind ofguy.
Like veterans get pretty, prettydark.
That is sick.
That is a mental illness.
That is somebody who has asignificant problem, and there
is no way on earth he should bethe attorney general for the
state of Virginia.

(18:20):
No way.

SPEAKER_03 (18:21):
Correct, correct, 100% right.
And I'm with you, Clay.
I am I am such a fan of Gallo'shumor.
That is not what that was.
That was a sick, twisted, evilmindset and and thing to say,
who says something like that.
And the LOL, like the LOL,really, that like that's the

(18:41):
part like it's funny to you, andit's funny to you.

SPEAKER_05 (18:45):
Yeah.
I want to know who the collegeis.
Do you know?

SPEAKER_03 (18:48):
I don't know.
I don't know.
If anybody knows, put it in theuh comment section.
I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (18:53):
That person gave him a a touch of a reality check.
Like, it's like you should stopsaying this.
Yeah, you know, and then it'slike, hey, you're talking about
somebody's kids, and you justkeep going.

SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
Yeah, to to not pick up on the pew, to not even pick
up on the like, dude, what areyou saying here?
I'm not on board with whatyou're saying, and to keep going
with it, to double down on itand expand on it is like wow.

SPEAKER_04 (19:18):
And to say, I've told you this before.

SPEAKER_03 (19:23):
Right.
Which is obviously why this guyor or woman is.
I'm sure that I would suspectit's a guy, it's a male
colleague.
I don't know why I'm justassuming it's a male colleague,
but I feel like that would belike a I don't know.
But um, yeah, so he must havebeen like, all right, we're
gonna, we're gonna, we're gonnareaddress this conversation.
Like maybe it was like anin-person conversation they had
when he said these things, andhe's like, All right, let me let

(19:43):
me get this in print that you'reactually saying things like
that.
Because and the saddest partabout that is that that
colleague probably went, okay,well, this guy is a monster.
This will show everyone what amonster he is, and this will get
him at the very least out of therunning.
Nope.

SPEAKER_04 (20:00):
No, nope, and like he didn't even lose the
endorsement of the woman whojust got elected to be the
governor of Virginia.
She had the opportunity 20 timesin public, in debates, in
interviews, people asked herspecifically, are you pulling
your endorsement?
She changed the subject and letit go.
And and she's okay with it.
Yeah, like not just okay withit, but like she endorsed this

(20:20):
guy and wouldn't pull herendorsement.
So, how sick is she?

SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
Yeah.
Well, this is this is, you know,I mean, how many more clear
indicators can we possibly getas a nation of what the left
chooses?
The left chooses violence everysingle damn time.
This is who they are.
And for these blue states, forthese voters in these blue

(20:45):
states to either not recognizeit, not believe it, or accept it
as right and good and excusable,I I don't even have any words
for it.
I mean, keep keep your damnstates.
Uh you you don't have to worryabout my going there.
I wouldn't step foot.

SPEAKER_04 (21:05):
You know, yeah, I and and it's so you've got that,
you've got the New Jersey,right?
New governor.
Umor in a minute.
Um that's a whole you've gotdrop 50 in California, which for
those that aren't tracking,basically disbanded California's

(21:27):
nonpartisan committee forredistricting for the next three
election cycles.

SPEAKER_05 (21:32):
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (21:33):
So it's not, it is essentially an appointed
committee, uh, which everybodyknows is gonna come from
Newsom's office, which meansit's all gonna be Democrats.
They're gonna they're gonnagerrymander the state to make
sure that every single uhdistrict is is blue, um, you
know, because they say they'retrying to countermand what's

(21:55):
happening in Texas.
Um so and that passed, right?
So that their state, state ofCalifornia, voted to be
nonpartisan.
Like, let's just be completelyhonest and say what it is.
They have voted to benonpartisan.
Um and thankfully, the one turnfor the good for crying out loud

(22:15):
was the Minneapolis mayor.

SPEAKER_03 (22:17):
Oh, yeah, that I I mean.

SPEAKER_04 (22:23):
Yeah.
So for the one point spot.
Yeah, for the mechanics of theelection, yeah.
Um, very much like the how Cityof Chicago got this idiot
Brandon Johnson, so nobody inMinneapolis hit 50%, which is
the threshold for them to be anautomatic uh win.

(22:43):
Um so what Minneapolis has isyou can this is nuts, you can
rank three candidates, right?
And so when you don't hit 50%,then they have to go back, take
all of the rankings, they do aspecial calculation for all of
the rankings, and then whoeverwins that ranking system, then

(23:05):
it becomes the mayor.
Thankfully, the Somali Muslim,you know, Ilian Omar's best
buddy did not win, thankfully.
Um, and the current mayor ofMinneapolis, who's not great, by
the way, um, but he retained hisoffice for a third term.
Uh, but it was it was dicey fora little bit that we were gonna

(23:26):
have another, you know, Muslimtruth, I'll say it, jihadist,
yeah, um, radical, you know,claims Somalia as his home,
speaks in you know multipletongues when he's talking to the
voting base, yeah, um, all ofit.
You know, waving a Somali flagand an election for an American

(23:46):
mayor.
Thankfully, that guy lost.
But that's the only bright spotof the day.

unknown (23:50):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
And then, you know, then you have your soy latte
drinking liberals shouting thatwe are just being uh racist and
all of that, and we don't likemulticulturalism and diversity.
It's like, are you you can't bethat stupid?
Like you can you be that stupid,or you know, you just like

(24:11):
throwing out these ridiculouswords because we we have a
multicultural cabinet, we have amulticultural government, we
have a multicultural world.
We're saying no to socialism,we're saying no to communism,
we're saying no radicalism,we're saying no to all of those
things.
And yes, they do come typicallyfrom a particular area.

(24:34):
It is what it is.
I'm not gonna apologize forthat.
I mean, the Muslims make nosecret of what their goals and
intentions are.
So just stop already with yournonsense.
And, you know, let I I think,you know, some people perhaps on
the on the right, uh, you know,we're kind of going into like a
maybe a little bit of a panicmode here, saying, like, oh,

(24:55):
it's gonna be a blue weight.
No, these were already blue.
These were already blue states.
This this was, I mean, we weretalking about this already for
at least two weeks, saying thatwe knew at the very least,
Mamdanny was was in.
We knew that was happening.
And I feel like I feel like kindof everyone already knew that
this was a foregone conclusionthat this would happen.

SPEAKER_04 (25:15):
Um but with that one, you and I talked about it.
So it was close enough to 50%.
Yes, because Sliwa didn't dropout, and not saying that every
single person who voted forSliwa would have voted for
Cuomo, but it was probablypretty close.
Yeah, that that race could haveturned had Sliwa not been
self-centered, arrogant, youknow, that the seven and a half,

(25:36):
just under eight percent that hetook away from Cuomo really made
a decisive uh change in theoutcome of that uh of that
election.

SPEAKER_05 (25:45):
So it makes him think that the Ross Perot of
It's exactly it.

SPEAKER_04 (25:50):
You're a hundred percent right.
But what you touched on with theelections, and I've got a uh you
know a couple of stats here.
So young women, young whitewomen, and I say young in the 18
to 29 year old range, educated,right?
That demographic, 81% of themvoted for mom donnie, 80% of

(26:14):
them voted uh for Cheryl in NewJersey, 78% of them voted for
Spanberger in Virginia.

SPEAKER_03 (26:21):
They are the ones brainwashed, yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (26:25):
Yeah, yes.
Educated white women are are thelike listen, folks, if you're if
you're one of those people andyou're listening to us, you are
a super minority and and we loveyou.
Thank you for for being on theside of common sense.
But that demographic is the onethat is making mat and they're
being targeted now by the Demsand by the socialists

(26:47):
specifically.

SPEAKER_03 (26:47):
Oh, 100%, absolutely.
You know, and but this is whereevery every stinking time the
right drops the the Republicans,the GOP, that's where they drop
the ball.
Like they're paying attention.
Why are we not paying attention?
Reach these people.
I don't care how you freaking doit, but you have these think

(27:09):
tanks where you mastermind allof your strategies and your
marketing and your campaigningand your all of the things.
Why are you not paying attentionto these groups?
These are major voting groups.
You need to get to them.
Like do it.
I don't know how, I can't tellyou how, because that's not my
lane.

(27:29):
That's not my job, but there arepeople whose job it is.

SPEAKER_04 (27:33):
Yeah, no, you're you're 100% right.
And I think, you know, over thelast, especially if you look
back to the last presidentialyear ago, you know, there's a
lot of focus on Hispanics,right?
And there was a big red turn uhdemographic, there was a big red
turn in in black young males.
I think they're targeting groupsthat group they have not cracked

(27:56):
the code on.
Um and it's becoming veryapparent, one, but two
influential.
So you're right.
I think in the next cycle forthe next year, as we approach
you know a normal, you know,even year election cycle in
2026, um, the GOP and they'regonna have to figure this out
because they're they're missingthe boat on that demographic,

(28:17):
and it's really, really startingto hurt things.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
Um I'm gonna say something a little insulting and
offensive, maybe, um, to to ourcrowd, but I'm gonna say I'm
gonna say it anyway.
Stop putting forward crusty oldwhite men.
Like you're not touching thatdemographic, you're not
appealing to that demographicdemographic.
Mandami, uh AOC.
Yes, I mean they're super grossto us, and we see through it

(28:41):
all.
They're not seeing through it,they're seeing young and fresh
and energetic and in touch andin tune with everything.
Get some young blood in there onthe conservative side and start
winning them over.
I mean, simple as that.
Do it.

SPEAKER_04 (28:58):
And and listen, let's be honest.
Even many of the females on theGOP side are not appealing to
many of the females, you know,female voters.
Right.
Let's be honest.
Right.
Um, you know, there's a lot ofwomen who have a problem with
Lauren Boeber.
There's a lot of women who haveproblems with um Marjorie Taylor
Green.
There's a lot, like it's so, youknow, like I I and I don't know,

(29:22):
truthfully, I won't speakbecause I don't know for sure
how women feel about Nancy Mace,but like her moving back to run
for governor and coming out ofCongress, I think is uh it's
hurtful, uh you know, as far asattracting the the GOP base of
voters for women, but I don'tknow that for sure.
So um you're right.
I that's the targeting that'sgotta happen.

(29:42):
Yeah, um, but let's let's talkmom donnie because this is uh
this is the uh the the this is alinchpin.
It really, really is yes, uh asignificant everybody says, Oh,
it's just a city.
No, it's not a city, it's a thecity.

SPEAKER_03 (29:59):
It's the City.

SPEAKER_04 (30:00):
Literally the city.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
800,000 is the estimate rightnow.
800,000, an exodus of 800,000voters out of New York City.
Even if it's half of that.
Okay.
Even if it's half of that, it'sstill almost a half a million
people leaving because of him.
Um, businesses are gonna leaveand and are planning to leave

(30:24):
because of him.
We're already, I saw today umthe chief of the NYFD who's
Jewish, resigned.
Wow, right?
You uh I thought 170 uh policeofficers took early retirement
today.
Yeah, um and that's just thebeginning, it's just the
beginning.

(30:44):
It's all just the beginning,folks.
So and and really what thatdoes, that exodus, and and I
know there's a lot of peoplelike, hey, Florida's full, hey,
Texas is full, hey, Ohio's full,like don't move here.
And I and I sympathize withthem, I really do.

SPEAKER_05 (30:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (30:58):
The problem is that as all of those conservative,
even centrist voters inbusinesses leave New York, that
makes it much more difficult inthe future.
It becomes bluer and bluer andbluer every time one of those
people moves.
Right.
Um, so I think tragedy is theonly thing that is going to
change things in New York, andwe are on the precipice of

(31:21):
tragedy.

SPEAKER_03 (31:21):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There's uh listen, if there's anopposite outcome to happen from
this, uh no one will be moreshocked than me because this
feels pretty predictable.
Uh right.
I mean, this is the the writingis on the wall.
You know, uh you elect an opensocialist.
What do you oh I'm sorry, uhdemocratic socialist, right?

(31:44):
That's what they call themselvesto make it sound pretty.
Um you're gonna get what youasked for here.
And and that female demographicthat you were talking about, uh,
you know, the irony has notescaped any of us, right, guys.
The irony of it all has notescaped any of us.
These are the same people, theyou know, the the gay and

(32:04):
lesbians for um, you know, forPalestine and all of that, you
know, these are people that haveno comprehension that the people
that they are rooting for andcheering for and applauding and
voting for, um stone and throwoff of buildings gay people.
They absolutely do not accepthomosexuality whatsoever.

(32:26):
Women are, you know, not evensecond class, it's like third
class citizens in their culture.
Uh you will get what you askedfor.
And I I am I am sorry for youand for everyone who has to now
live with uh what they've done.
And unfortunately, it's it'slike the only way that there's

(32:47):
gonna be any kind of wake-upcall here.
Like, okay, yeah, you're gonnaget what you wanted.
You can ask you.

SPEAKER_04 (32:52):
You know, he in the waning days, in the waning days
of his of his um campaign, hebasically told folks, listen, I
don't need money from youanymore.
Like, stop making donations.
Like, you know, it's run itscourse, uh, you know, and then
immediately is already askingfor money.

SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (33:09):
He's already asking for donations.
I know I told you, I know I toldyou to stop giving money, but I
need your money.
Yeah, this is a guy, right?
This is the guy who thinks thateverything's gonna be paid for.
Oh, by the way, super arrogantin the sense, did you see that
he's like, I'm still waiting formy phone call from President
Trump congratulating me on avictory.
You're gonna be waiting a while.

SPEAKER_03 (33:27):
You're gonna you're gonna long wait, buddy.
You've got a long wait.
Any phone call you get, you'renot gonna, you're gonna wish you
didn't get it.
I can guarantee that.
So, funny thing, I I just saw umearlier today, I think it was,
and I I meant to say that Ididn't say that, I'm sorry guys,
but uh apparently I think it wasDon Lemon uh was surprised.
This was the headline.
He was he was surprised at thechange in tone of Mom Dani, who

(33:51):
was always so cheerful andpleasant and optimistic and
positive and nice on thecampaign trail.
And Nathan won his his um hisspeech was not very nice and
loving and welcoming, and he wasso surprised by that.

SPEAKER_04 (34:06):
That's because Don Laman is an idiot.
He's an idiot.

SPEAKER_03 (34:10):
Idiot, yeah.
He's a pure idiot.
Um we do we do have uh not thewhole speech, but we have enough
of the speech just to kind ofgive you the vibe, the idea of
who and what this guy's about.

SPEAKER_00 (34:20):
Ready here it is.

(34:49):
About what this new age willdeliver and for whom?

SPEAKER_03 (34:52):
For whom, exactly.
Who is that gonna be for?
Uh by the way, he was quotinglike a communist jihadist from
India who you know just handedit all over to Hamas, basically.
So, yeah, that's who he wasquoting in his speech, not uh as
the quote, you couldn't see it.
I'm gonna enlarge everybody.
Uh, you know, not Lincoln, notuh, you know, Jefferson, no, no,

(35:15):
um a communist.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (35:17):
Listen, I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sugarcoat
this.
Um in our and our audiences, youknow, they are who they are and
they and they believe, you know,for the most part in everything
that we believe in.
I will tell you that what NewYork just did was an insult.
The city itself, by voting himin, was an insult to uh this
entire nation, specifically toan entire generation of warriors

(35:41):
who uh defended her after 9-11.
Uh the entire sentiment of neverforget, we will never forget,
New York proved itself to be uhuh a second-class city.
They are not the big apple, theyare not, you know, the city of
lights, they are not a shiningbeacon of any kind.

(36:02):
Uh, they are uh uhuntrustworthy, they are
two-faced, they are shallow,they are greedy.
That city has embarrassed all ofus by electing uh a jihadist, an
Islamist, a communist, and a manwho stands for everything
against America.
Everything in his belief systemis anti-American, it's

(36:24):
anti-constitutional, it'santi-everything about America,
everything.
And New York put him in office.
And New York, I I hate to saythis because I really don't ever
want it to get to this.
You said it, you reap what yousow.
New York City is gonna burn.
Uh it is, and there is gonna besuch destruction in the next few
years as a result of this guy.

(36:46):
Uh, because I know the governorhas said he's made a lot of
promises, and there's a lot ofpromises he's made that he he
can't enforce.
But what he can do is allow thecity to go to ruins because
that's what he wants.
He wants that city to go toruins, he wants the rule of law
to fall apart so he can replaceit with Sharia law.
That is the plan, folks.
He he wants that to happen.

(37:07):
There can be a shell of a NYPD,there can be a shell of public
services, but what he wants is ais shadow governments,
neighborhood contingencies torise up and police themselves
outside of American law, uh,because that's what he wants.
This is step one in the Islamictakeover of the United States.
And I will tell you that it isgoing to fail miserably because

(37:31):
there are too many non-Muslimsin the in in New York City.
Um, but it's uh this iscatastrophic.
It really, really is.

SPEAKER_03 (37:41):
It is, it is, it makes me sad and and more than
sad, it makes me so angry, soangry that it this has been
allowed to get to this point.
Uh blows my mind.
Uh, I will very sarcasticallyapplaud them for you know for
developing and executing acampaign against America so

(38:04):
successfully.
Uh, you know, slow clap for youbecause you did a good job in
those areas.
You you you accomplished thosegoals with the compliance of
foolish Americans, ideologicalidiots, really.
And I and I mean that uh fromthe bottom of my heart.
I think you people who cheeredthis on and are applauding it,

(38:29):
you 18 to 29-year-old women, Ithink you are the idiots of the
universe.
And I am disgusted with all ofyou for being so foolish, for
being so incredibly foolish, andnot knowing history and not
knowing what has been going onin the rest of the world.
Put down your damn soy latte,put down the bottle of blue

(38:53):
freaking hair dye and wake thehell up.
Ross can't stand it.

SPEAKER_04 (38:59):
And again, in another election cycle,
complicit because of mediasupport.
Yes.
We're gonna talk about PresidentTrump on 60 minutes.
But I will say this there is anarticle out there, an editorial
by the Wall Street Journal whois talking about the threat that
Mam Dani is to New York and tothe business of the United

(39:21):
States.
So we have a media outlet thattraditionally has not been
necessarily all that objective,being very, very honest about
what just happened in New York.

SPEAKER_03 (39:31):
So and there's actually I I I saw um I I'm not
a fan, obviously.
This shouldn't go withoutsaying, but uh Deborah Messing,
she's an actress, uh very right,very outspoken liberal actress,
uh, you know, another one thatcan't stand Trump.
Surprise, surprise.
Uh she has been uh all of asudden very vocal, vocally
against Trump.
Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (39:52):
Michael Rappaport, if you guys haven't been Michael
Rappaport, who was very likethreatened to beat up Trump in a
very literally way, right?
Uh and is a super, supersupporter of President Trump and
is very anti-Hollywood right nowand all of his compatriots.
So there's a there's a movementgoing on, and this is more of

(40:13):
the same.
But yeah, I saw the DeborahMessing thing too.

SPEAKER_03 (40:15):
Yep, yeah, and we'll see we'll see more of it.
We'll see more of that.

SPEAKER_04 (40:18):
Let's talk to President Trump in 60 minutes.
Let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 (40:20):
Yes.
I I did not watch it.
I did not watch it.
It's it's on my two watch listof things.

SPEAKER_04 (40:26):
So they were he gave them 90 minutes, and I think
they said that the totalrecorded time was like 67
minutes, which is available.
I I think an unedited version isout there.
I think President Trump actuallyput it out, but what was on 60
minutes itself was about I thinkit's just over 30 minutes.

(40:47):
Am I right on that?
I think so.

SPEAKER_03 (40:49):
I'm looking at my notes here.
I don't know if I have them manyminutes, but yeah, it was
definitely not 60 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 (40:54):
No, and it was very edited.
Yeah, it's very, very edited,and it was um what's her name?
That she ran the uh the ladythat interviewed him is the same
one who ran one of the debateswith uh oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (41:07):
Uh it's gonna come to me at like three o'clock in
the morning and people will tellyou.

SPEAKER_04 (41:11):
And she did a horrible job again.
Of course she did.

SPEAKER_03 (41:13):
It was I don't understand how these women like
I listen, I'm not even sayingthat I could do it better, but
actually I think I might besaying I could do it better.

SPEAKER_04 (41:20):
He was on his game, though.
I I get press, you know,President Trump is is uh, you
know, he's obviously very uhvery quick on his feet.
He's super intelligent, and andhe has he's great in an
interview.
Um, but he was really on hisgame.
Um and he really kept her atbay.
He put her in her place a coupleof times.
She asked very specificquestions about China, about

(41:43):
Taiwan.
Um, she asked very specificquestions, you know, about um
narco-terrorism, some otherthings, and and she really
actually directly askedPresident Trump to reveal what
he would why he hasn't saidpublicly that we would back
Taiwan if China attacked, or whywe wouldn't do specific things.

(42:03):
And he looked at him and hegoes, I'm I'm not telling you
anything, like I'm not revealingany secrets to you.
I you know, I have no you're areporter, I have no obligation
to tell you that.
I'm not I'm the president, I'mnot telling you what our war
plans are.
But he was very blunt about it,uh, which was he didn't tap
dance around anything, which wasgreat.

SPEAKER_03 (42:21):
Good.
You he can't he can't with them.
He had, you know, and obviously,obviously, he has learned that
uh from vast experience anddealing with them that you know
you have to give them the mostblunt, direct, uh not ambiguous
answers you can possibly give.
And you know, it is crazy theaudacity that they have, though,
right?

(42:41):
Like that they think like youyou think you're entitled to
that kind of information.
Who are you?
Like, who do you even think youare?

SPEAKER_04 (42:48):
Perfect words.
Yeah, because that's exactlywhat it is, is entitled.

SPEAKER_05 (42:54):
So entitled.

SPEAKER_04 (42:55):
Yeah, but it was it was a good, you know, it was a
good interview, it was good forPresident Trump.
Um, I didn't realize it had beenthat long, you know, since he
had been on 60 Minutes.

SPEAKER_03 (43:04):
How long has it been?
It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_04 (43:06):
Over five years.
Oh, okay.
Really?
So yeah, so I I I know that heobviously had some issues with
them, but he he didn't, youknow, and I know that you know
the Kamala Harris editedinterview, we all familiar with
that from the campaign, theelection cycle, but he didn't do
a single interview with 60minutes from the time that he
left office through the entirecampaign and all the way up

(43:28):
until now.
Um, he hasn't hasn't been onthere at all.
Um, but you know, he did great,as he always does, but they did
edit it, and there have beenpeople who've done some like
here's here's what he said, andhere's where they cut it off,
and here's the rest of the storywhere they manipulated, they
didn't change what he said, butthey changed the context of it

(43:50):
in their editing.
Um and and it's again, it's veryapparent that they're doing what
they do.
And yeah, oh absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (43:57):
Well, we knew they wouldn't learn anything from you
know from the past mistakes andor from uh who is it, CBS?
Yeah, what was that like 60million videos?
Yeah, um, you know, so theyprobably are just they probably
you can just picture themsitting back there in that
editing room, like, all right,so how can we do this exactly so
that we don't write?

SPEAKER_06 (44:14):
100% agree with you.

SPEAKER_03 (44:15):
Like they're like, so here's here's the where's my
hand?
Here it is.
So here's the line.
Let's get like right there, likeright to the hair's breadth of
it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (44:26):
And they again, they didn't alter anything he said,
but by eliminating, they changedthe context, right?
Um there was one controversial,well, there's a lot of
controversial, but one of thecontroversial things they talked
about, they asked him about apardon that he gave to a crypto
guy who got convicted underneaththe Biden administration, and he

(44:47):
gave the guy a pardon.
And she asked him, and he goes,Listen, I'll be honest with you,
I don't even know who the guyis.
So and he and what he said was,I was told that it was a witch
hunt from the Bidenadministration, he got some you
know, stupid, horrible, overdoneum sentence, and I pardoned him.
Um, and so you know, CBS turnedaround and they put this picture

(45:09):
up because the two Trump boyswere supposedly affiliated with
the crypto that this guy wasinvolved in.
Oh, I see.
Well, in a masterclass ofPresident Trump, what he
basically put everybody in thecorner is saying, because they
came after him right away.
Like all everybody afterwardswas like, um, you know, well,
how could he not know?
How could you know they'reblaming Biden for the auto pen

(45:31):
and he's signing off on pardonsbecause he didn't know who you
didn't even know who the guywas.
And it's like, okay, well, youeither have to say it's okay
that he didn't know the guy sothat you can defend the auto
pen.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yes, you're right, brilliant,yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:48):
Or he puts him in those corners all the time,
yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (45:52):
Or they have to admit that he's he's failing
mentally, or he's he's this, orhe's signing things that he
doesn't even know what he'ssigning, and that's bad.
Well, yeah, okay, so's the autopen.
Okay, brilliantly painted him inpainted people into a corner on
that specific topic, andtruthfully, 60 minutes walked
into it because they asked thequestion.

SPEAKER_03 (46:10):
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, good on him, you know.
I uh again, and and I know um uhvice president uh Vance recently
did not an interview, but uhstood up there and took like, I
don't know if it was like anhour's worth of questions, but
it was a long period of timewhere he just stood up at the
podium, took all of thesequestions, and not just nice,

(46:33):
you know, friendly qu not notthe um spoon-fed questions that
you know the team like uhBiden's people did, the the
cherry-picked questions, andthey were told what to ask.
He took questions from ahostile, hostile crowd, and he
stayed up there and he took themall.
And this administration has donethis consistently over and over

(46:54):
again, on the fly, scheduled,planned, not planned, walk into
the the plane, getting off theplane, walking down the street,
you know, whatever.
They they take these questionsoff the cuff all the time and
they answer them every time.
Not with the I'll have to lookinto that or I'll have to circle
back to that, or they answer thequestions every time.

(47:15):
So they they are doing um youknow much more in that regard,
in every regard than pastpresidents, especially the last
uh clown show.
So yeah, good on him.

SPEAKER_04 (47:29):
And uh and we know one of those topics is the
current employment of ourmilitary and some of the things
that we're doing with them.
And so, you know, we've got thediscussion.
We'll we'll talk both of these,but we'll talk South America
first because it expands intooh, by the way, the UN said we
have to stop blowing up drugboats, and pretty much I'm I'm
promising you that sex state,sec war president, vice

(47:52):
president are all going to tellthe UN we don't work for you and
go away.
Um so but but there's discussionabout the expansion of those
operations into potential groundoperations in Mexico and
potentially into Venezuela, um,with CIA special operations, et
cetera, beyond just what's goingon um with the with the boats.

(48:12):
Now, you know, are we okay withthis?
Um I would tell you that, youknow, we can blow up boats all
day long, and it does put asignificant dent along with
securing the border, um, butthat amps up the violence in
other places.
So there was just a mayor inMexico that was murdered by the
cartel.
Um, you know, and and these arethe things that are going to
continue to happen.

(48:33):
So there's discussion about howfar we want to expand in this.
Um, I would tell you thateverybody who thinks that we
don't know who's out who andwhat are on those boats are
fooling themselves because weknow exactly who and what's on
those boats.
Right.
Um, but the expansion intoground operations inside of
Mexico and and other places inSouth America, now you're

(48:56):
potentially putting, you know,um soldiers and intelligence
officers at risk.
Um, you know, and and so thatamps things up a little bit.
That all has to be done withsupport and endorsement from
those nations where we'reoperating.
I don't think we would ever walkinto Mexico uh heavy-handed and
say, hey, we're we're gonna fixthis, um, etc.

(49:17):
Now, Africa is interestingbecause Africa, as we talked
about, is about stopping thegenocide of Christians in
Nigeria.
And President Trump himselfsaid, We're not gonna allow this
to happen.
Like, this is gonna stop.
And you know who we gotendorsement from?
Did you see this?
Nicki Minaj of I.
I did.

SPEAKER_03 (49:38):
I saw that.
I saw that.
That was amazing.
Yeah, that was unexpected.
I I actually scrolled past andthen I went back in.
I'm like, wait, what am Ireading here?
Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 (49:48):
Right?
So, and and there are people whodo not endorse this because they
say we've never gone to war onbehalf of protecting another
religion, um, which I'm prettysure the end of World War II was
really all about protectinglike, you know, like yeah, kinda

(50:09):
sorta, kinda sorta, maybedefinitely.
Yeah.
Um but it this is not aboutChristians, this is not about
this is about genocide, right?
Okay, and and you can make it areligious thing just as much as
you want to make it a racething, you can make it whatever
you want.
But the reality is it isgenocide.
We, the United States, alongwith the United Nations and

(50:29):
NATO, have turned a blind eye tomany atrocities in Africa,
right?
And it's and and really over thelast 20 years, we've done it
mostly because China owns mostof Africa, whether people know
it or not.
Um, we have been very, verycautious about what we do and
where we do it inside of thecontinent because of China's
presence there.
This President Trump has made nobones about it.

(50:50):
He doesn't care if this is agenocide going on, he has no
problem putting folks on theground to stop this from
happening.
And I, for one, am fully insupport of this.
I assume you are on that train.

SPEAKER_03 (51:03):
Let me let me think about that.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I was so on board for that.
And um, it's you know, theatrocities that are happening
over there in other places.
I'm sorry, guys, I my voice justdecided that it didn't want to
cooperate for the rest of theshow here, so bear with me.
Um yeah, the atrocities that arehappening over there and in
other places as well, uh, it ishorrifying.

(51:27):
And we're so far removed fromit.
You know, it it's like um, youknow, it's like watching a
movie, it's like watching ashow, it's like reading
something.
It's it's all of the things thatit actually is.
Because we are not there,because we don't see it, because
we don't hear about itconstantly, um, we can get very,
I don't know, uh immune tohaving a heart for that.

(51:48):
And uh it I think if you takethe time to really understand
what's happening over there, uh,this is the only right thing to
do.
You know, and we talk about, orI'll I'll go with the left
again, you know, they talk aboutthis humanitarian uh, you know,
desire to help.
Like there, of course, thattheir thing is Palestine, you
know, to this is what they say.

(52:09):
Children are starving, terriblethings are happening, people are
dying, they're this and that.
There are atrocities happeningin other places in the world as
well.
Where is your heart for that?
Like, is it because is itbecause oh is it because they're
Christians that we don't careabout that?
Is that is that the deal?

SPEAKER_06 (52:25):
Like, we're exactly right.

unknown (52:27):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (52:28):
So, you know, pardon me for not really even giving a
moment's thought to or or payinga moment's attention to their
blustering over their distastefor that.

SPEAKER_04 (52:39):
They can, you know, in my very and listen, folks,
you you know, I think you guysprobably know me well enough
now.
I I am not one to advocate forthis kind of stuff.
I am not I am not based on myown experience and all the stuff
that I did, I am not one whogoes looking to put young
Americans in harm's way.
However, this is a humanitariancause.

(53:01):
Um, these are the things thatour American military should be
doing, um, and we should begetting in front of this.
Like this should have beenstopped a while ago, my personal
opinion.
Um and and so these are thethings that I am on board with,
and I think that we collectivelyas a nation, if there's a
genocide, like these are thethings that we step in the
middle of and we we employ ourmilitary to put a stop to.

(53:23):
So um, I'm not I'm not lookingto start a fight, but these are
the fights, these are the thingsthat we need to end.
Um, and and that's I think wherewe we need to sit.
However, um we did have a prettynotorious individual pass away
this past week.

SPEAKER_03 (53:39):
Yes, the notorious Cheney.
Yeah, I you know, so I I have toI have to confess, uh, I I the
day that we were kind of goingback and forth a little bit on
the topics, um, I had not Ihadn't looked at my computer, I
hadn't looked at my socialmedia.
I did not know that he passedaway until you texted me and

(54:02):
told me that.
And I was like, oh yeah, ohwait, wow, okay.
And I'm like, oh, let me go findthat.
Let me go over on X and see whatthey're saying.
But uh yeah, so I I I was verylate to uh to knowing that.
The rest of the world was aheadof me on that one.
Um go ahead, talk about becauseI was asking Clay beforehand,
like I was trying to remember,I'll confess, guys, I couldn't
remember right.
I knew he left a bad taste inpeople's mouths, and I honestly

(54:25):
could not remember why.
Don't don't come for me, guys.
So go ahead.
So I know some there's a gottabe at least one person out
there, also, that's like, yeah,I don't remember either.

SPEAKER_04 (54:34):
So it's been a while.
Listen, uh, you know, he was hewas vice president for you know
Bush 2.
Um, so he was vice president on9-11.
Uh and and obviously his time inoffice ended way back in 2008.
So uh it's it's been a minutesince he's been in office.
Um, so Dick Chaney, you know,was a lifelong in-government

(54:54):
kind of guy.
Um, and so he's he's known inhis late stages of of political
influence for two two things,his time as vice president.
Uh one is he shot someone.

SPEAKER_03 (55:06):
So I do remember that.

SPEAKER_04 (55:08):
Thankfully, that individual survived, but there
was a bird hunting incidentwhere Vice President Shaney shot
another hunter in the face withsome bird shot.
Uh it was a bad look, uh,obviously.

SPEAKER_06 (55:20):
Sorry.

unknown (55:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (55:21):
Um, so that that's not good.
But also, the probably thebiggest thing is that he was one
of the biggest, if notpotentially the biggest,
advocate for the invasion ofIraq in 2003 based on the flawed
intel WMDs.
Um and and, oh, by the way,partial owner of a services
contracting company thatsupported both efforts in both

(55:42):
Iraq and Afghanistan for theentirety of our existence there.
Um, so he he's been known as awar profiteer, a war monger, in
the sense of that he knew thathe would profit off of U.S.
forces being deployed to theMiddle East, and and he did.
Um so um his uh, you know, hisif you are a uh Iraq or

(56:04):
Afghanistan veteran and youspent any time at any of the big
bases, you know Kerry Brown andRoot because they provided all
the chow halls for all of us, uhany big base you ever passed
through or went to.
Um, and that's you know part ofpart of Dick Cheney's legacy.
Um but he was known as awarmonger and a war profiteer,
and and it left a lot of badtaste in people's mouths.

(56:25):
He also was not in private,supposedly was was a personable
guy, um, but in public was verymuch not a personable guy.

SPEAKER_03 (56:32):
No, all I can remember of him of just that
that sour, angry look on hisface all the time, which I I
have I have to be so weird.
I have such an affection forcranky old men.
So it just I I actually likedthat about him.
I liked his you know miserable,pouty, cranky face, but uh I

(56:53):
think I'm I think I might bealone in that.

SPEAKER_04 (56:56):
He also he also in late stages turned his back on
the on the Republican Party.
Um he did not uh he was not apresident a fan of President
Trump at all, um and reallyturned his back on on the
President Trump, the MAGAeffort.
Um he is also the father of LizCheney, so you know, guilt by
association there as well.

SPEAKER_03 (57:16):
A lot of strikes against him.

SPEAKER_04 (57:18):
The only one I'm gonna give him is this cranky
face that I like that there's alife, uh a lifetime, very many
years of government service, uhwhether you like him or not.
Um he did, you know, try tocontribute to the nation.
Did he profit off of it?
You could argue that he did.
Um, but he did spend a lot oftime uh, you know, in the the
you know, the service of thenation.
So um not all bad, no matterwhat anybody says.

(57:42):
So rest in peace.

SPEAKER_03 (57:43):
Yes, vice president.
I was just gonna say we willchoose to to honor the the good
good parts of his legacy and uhand honor the office uh for
which he represented and umsympathies to his family and uh
his loved ones and and all ofthat.
So yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's ahistorical political figure

(58:05):
who's passed away.
You gotta acknowledge that, ofcourse.
Um, let's talk about somebody,our last one, our last one.
So I've railed on this guy inmany videos.
Many times I have talked abouthim, and there have been, I
wouldn't call it defending him,but there has been, you know,
there's always, we all know thememes that go around.

(58:25):
And I I have this long-standinghabit now, or long-ish standing
habit now, of every time I comeacross a meme that is giving
supposed factual information, II research it.
How do I research it?
I run it through chat.
I check, you know, I'll evencheck Google, but I'll like
cross-re do a lot ofcross-referencing to find the

(58:46):
actual truth somewhere.
Um, so one of the ones was uh, II think it was like his uh I
can't remember what statementwas.
I will find it for you guys, butthere was some statement that he
was uh reported as saying, and Iwas like, I don't know, is that
true?
Because I really want to sharethis so I can beat him up for
it.
And uh it turned out it was itwas not a statement that he had
ever made.

(59:06):
So guys, just be just be carefulwith these things.
Like just research them, justresearch them and make sure it's
true because I don't want to befeeling stupid.
So and not none of us shouldwant to feel stupid, right?
But this is this here is istruth, it is fact, it is
multi-checked and confirmed bymany, many sources.

(59:28):
He has um kind of stepped backfrom his long-standing claim
that you know we're all gonnadie from climate change.
You're all gonna die.
But you know, and every I lovehow they all move the goalposts.
You know, you've got uh what'shis name?
Um Al Gore, you've got, ofcourse, uh uh Greta.
Uh there's been plenty of otherones too, but you know, the man

(59:48):
wants to tell you like in 10years, we're all gonna be dead.
In 12 years, we're gonna be alldead.
Well, no, I mean like 12 yearsfrom starting now.
Yeah, but this is interestingbecause this is a guy who has
you know profited.
I think you have the number.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:00):
Right, you you know, summers they make profit
tremendously from the lot ofmoney, investment money off of
things associated with climatechange.
And so, in the second and thirdorder effects of this, as he has
backed away from this, there area lot of things happening very,
very quickly in that you'restarting to see like New Jersey
had the offshore wind farminvestment that's going on.

(01:00:23):
Like they're putting windmillsout, you know, uh offshore in
the ocean.
Like there are major investors,major corporate investors
backing away from this nowbecause they realize that
climate change isn't what itwas, and the trying to put in
all of these wind farms andeverything else is based on all,
you know, mock science, hopeum,whatever you want to call it.
Um, so you know, everybody, whenyou've got a name like Bill

(01:00:46):
Gates and you change yourposition on something as
significant as climate change,um, everybody takes a pause and
they reevaluate uh because theylook at it not scientifically,
they look at it economically,and that's what's happening now.
So there's some backlash goingon, all of the money that he
made off of climate change.

(01:01:07):
Um, people are now rethinkingtheir investment in climate
change.
And listen, Bill Casey's gotenough money, he doesn't care.
He's made his money.
He probably he probably quietlywalked away from climate change
investment uh a while before heever said anything.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:20):
Oh, guaranteed, guaranteed.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:22):
And now everybody else is gonna suffer uh based on
his change of position.
So it's just very interesting,folks, that uh science is not
always science.
Sometimes it's about money.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:32):
I I would say, yeah, I was just gonna say, I I think
um most of the time there's youknow, I love, I love the whole
believe the science crowd,they're my favorite.
Like you mean the you mean thescience that paid off Coca-Cola
to, you know, the science thatpaid off the cigarette
companies, or I'm sorry, reversethat, please.
The companies that paid off thescience.

(01:01:54):
You know, um yeah.
Like, come on now, science canbe bought.
You sure can and and it has beentime and time and time and time
and time again over history.
So be discerning people.
And listen, I don't want to tellyou I told you so, but I told
you so.
I mean, so many people have beensaying this for so long.
Like this whole, you know, youthey keep again, they move the

(01:02:18):
goalposts so many time that itsuits them, they move the
goalposts.
Remember, and they try and denythis too.
It was originally globalcooling.
We were gonna freeze to death,you know, everything was gonna
turn into a polar, you know,whatever vortex.
I don't know.
And then that was like, oops,just kidding, just kidding.
We didn't we didn't mean globalcooling, we mean like global
warming.
It's getting so hot, we're allgonna boil up and die from that.

(01:02:42):
And you know, the polar bearsare gonna starve to death.
And by the way, that wholeimage, uh, that polar bear
floating on the the block of icewas like a whole other thing
than what they portrayed assurprise.
The media lied to you, theymanipulated something.
What never happens?
Never happens.
Oh, so yes, um, I I just youknow, two things I I'm enjoying,

(01:03:06):
and I mean that sarcastically,really watching uh or will enjoy
uh the left and the the climatecrazies now figuring out how to
backpedal and save face, right?
Because now their their leaderis backpedaling on this and
stepping away from it.
So now they have to.
Next, I wonder what's his newangle, you know.

(01:03:26):
Like my notes say, you know,that Gates now emphasizes
innovation, adoption, humanflourishing overdue.
Oh, his yeah, it's gotta be hisuh farms with his fake meat,
right?
Isn't that like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:37):
It's some it's economic, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:40):
He's just gonna shift to whatever the next big
money-making scam is, and thenthat will be you know the big
thing, and all of the littleminions will will just pivot
right with them and be like, ohno, we're doing this.
No, this is the most importantthing to me.
I'm so glad we are in such adiscerning thinking crowd and

(01:04:04):
not the other one.
I love you guys so much becauseI think you keep me sane and not
like going over the edge ofcontempt and disgust and outrage
at how stupid and gullible andridiculous people are.
So thank you guys.
Thank you, thank you, Clay.
Clay always talks me down, Claytalks me off the ledge of

(01:04:26):
getting angry, and I say allthis and I do get fired up, and
then there's that flip side ofme that's like, you know what?
I'm just gonna staykingdom-minded here.
I'm gonna try and be a goodsteward of of you know all that
I'm supposed to do on this earthand this life, and I'm gonna do
that.
Um, but I'm not gonna let myselfget so immersed in it that it

(01:04:47):
makes me crazy.
Refocus, just refocus.
So yeah.
But yeah, I thought I thoughtthat was a good one to talk
about.
A good one if you guys hadn'theard it.
Um, now you know that he haspivoted to the next big thing,
so we can all watch togetherwhat the next thing is gonna be.
I I think his um I think hisfake meat thing it has failed or

(01:05:08):
is failing.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:09):
Like this will states states are already
outlawing it.
Um it's there will be some.
There will be some that say yourusual suspects, you know,
Washington State, Oregon, youknow, the West Coast,
California.
You'll probably have some on theeast coast as well.
But you know, in the northeastspecifically, but the rest of

(01:05:30):
the country is they're notbuying it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:32):
Yeah, thank goodness.
Thank goodness people are wakingup.
So yeah, I mean, that's all wegot.
That was a great show.
That was a lot of good stuff.
Only started losing it towardsthe end.
I think I stayed pretty calmthroughout, right?
You stay calm, I stay calm.
We're all calm.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:48):
We're trying.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:49):
We're trying, man.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:51):
Testing us every day.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:53):
They are, they are tested us but good.
But uh yeah, so uh we'll see youguys all in the comments
section.
Clay, you go ahead and closethem out with your final message
for the evening.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:02):
Hey folks, um book three, Terry Davis series, my
third novel, drops next Tuesdayon Veterans Day.
Um, so uh look for that onAmazon, Barnes and Noble.
Uh so that's uh that's big newsfor me.
But uh Rebellous is the name ofthe third book, and it drops on
Tuesday.
You can find it under my name orunder the name of the book, uh
Rebellous, on Amazon or Barnesand Noble.

(01:06:22):
And uh thanks everybody forhaving us, and we appreciate you
all being here with us, andwe'll see you in the comments
section.
And from me, as always, keepmoving, keep shooting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:31):
Take care, guys.

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