The Two Americas: Patriotism vs. Protest

The stark contrast between patriotic celebrations and political protests reveals the deepening divide in American society, while international tensions and domestic violence further complicate our national landscape.

• Army's 250th birthday parade showcases military history with tanks and historical uniforms in DC, privately funded despite criticism
• Simultaneous "No Kings" protests across the country appear disconnected from reality since true authoritarians wouldn't permit such demonstrations
• Political violence in Minnesota leaves two Democratic lawmakers dead in targeted attacks by a man with confusing political affiliations
• Israel conducts preemptive strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities based on intelligence showing imminent nuclear weapons capability
• Israel-Iran conflict escalates with ongoing strikes, potential US involvement likely given American interests and commitments
• Former FBI official Kash Patel reveals declassified documents alleging Chinese Communist Party interference in the 2020 election
• Questions arise about FBI Director Christopher Wray possibly suppressing intelligence before the 2020 election

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the Elsa Kirk Show, with Clay Novak serving up
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Kirk Collection and RefugeMedical.
And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, hello, it's always such an abrupt thing,
I've got to fix that.
It just goes.
Oh, here we are, hi, anyhow,hey Clay, hey everyone, how are
you doing, clay?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, it's a little doomy, gloomy here in the
Midwest, but you know,thankfully it's summertime.
Yesterday it was like I don'tknow, like 95 something heat
index, and today it's pouring,so it's summer in the Midwest.
But other than that,everything's good.
How about you?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good, same same.
We've had so much rain.
It's uh, it's so thoughtful theweather I mean that very
sarcastically to rain everysingle weekend it feels like.
And then the sun comes out forMonday and it's actually rainy
here today, so it's making me alittle bit cranky.
Does it make you cranky?
I can't really.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I don't mind the rain .
I actually and I'm a heat babywith all you know everything I
did in the army seemed to be inthe summertime and very hot and
in hot and dry places.
So I don't mind the heat, butthe humidity is what kills me.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got hey.
So we got some good topics.
We always have good topics,guys Come on, but yeah, some
interesting stuff.
We're starting off on a highone, so I'm looking forward to
getting to it.
How about you?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, let's get started.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
All right Tonight on the Elsa Kurt show with Clay
Novak.
From tanks rolling in DC tochaos marching in the streets,
we're asking one question whichAmerica are we becoming?
The Army's 250th birthdayparade sparked pride for some
and protest for others.
Enter the no Kings rallies.
Then we turn to Minnesota,where political division turned
deadly.
A targeted killing spree leavesa state reeling and the media

(01:52):
spinning Overseas.
Israel and Iran are on thebrink.
Bombs, drones and bunkerbusters fly as prophecy collides
with geopolitics.
And back home, a bombshell of adifferent kind.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Fbi Director Kash Patel says the CCP interfered in
the 2020 election, and he's gotthe documents to prove it Truth
, tension and a whole lot ofthings the media doesn't want
you to see.
And now it's time for the firsttwo topics that we're going to
be talking about, and I justwant everyone to and I'm going
to remind everyone just payattention to the contrast, right
?
So let's start off with.
You already know where I'mgoing.
Let's start off with just alittle overview from the parade.

(02:37):
The celebration it was theParade of Patriots Army.
The army turned 250 years old.
It was a great celebration.
Along with President Trump'sbirthday, it was just and Flag
Day, so it was a multi, multipart patriotic day.
So here's a look at that ¶¶.

(02:59):
So, so, yeah, I gotta say youplay me some patriotic music and

(03:50):
my heart just goes huge.
I love it.
So just keep that video in mind.
Um, we're going to talk aboutthis a little bit and then, when
we get to that next topic,which you know is going to segue
perfectly into um, we'll makethat comparison, but yeah, so,
uh, give me your thoughts on theparade.
What did you think of the wholething?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
okay, I I know this is going to shock some people I
didn't watch 25 year army career, 25 plus year army career.
I didn't watch the parade I Idon't like parades, um.
I don't watch the rose parade.
I don't watch thanksgiving.
I don't watch parades, um and Iknow that I probably should
have it's the Army's 250thbirthday but I did see

(04:30):
highlights.
I did some, you know, did mydue diligence.
I knew we were going to talkabout this, so I saw bits and
pieces.
Army's birthday and Flag Daycoincide.
They do also coincide withPresident Trump's birthday.
Let's dispel one thing rightnow.

(04:50):
The Army started planning forthis and putting in for all of
the permits and everything elsea year ago.
Okay, so this is not PresidentTrump saying let's do a military
parade for my birthday.
The Army started this under theBiden administration.
They were this all was.
You know, the initial planningfor all this started under
President Biden, because thearmy does things and, truthfully
, in Washington DC, you have toplan things like this a year out
.
So let's get that out of theway right off the bat.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yes, because you know that's like the the.
You know one of the many bigaccusations that that this was
just Trump's way of having a bigparty for his birthday Cause's
all about him.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, and listen, this is not a normal thing in
the United States.
The optics of this are achallenge.
I actually admire bothadministrations the previous and
the current for agreeing to dothis and taking this on, because
in reality we don't see paradeslike this in the United States.
The last time we saw somethinglike this in DC it was after the

(05:44):
Gulf War in 1991.
Right, so the victory paradefor that.
So we're talking, you know, 35years.
We see parades like thisnormally in places like
communist China and Libya andlike dictatorial nations all
over the world.
We don't see this stuffnormally in the United States.
But this was a.
It was a birthday celebrationfor the army was to honor 250

(06:04):
years of honorable service tothe nation for the army and
everybody who served in it.
I think, from what I saw, itwas done well.
They did a great job touchingon the history of the army, with
the different uniforms, youknow, the different vehicles.
They even honored the army aircorps, you know, which then
eventually became the Air Forceby flying some World War II
aircraft.

(06:24):
We had old tanks, you know, andall of those things, and I
think you know they did.
The Army did a good job overall, you know kind of paying
tribute to its, you knowlifelong service to the nation.
I will say the one bit offeedback that I got.
I saw from veterans everywherewas the uh.

(06:45):
The soldiers marching on theground looked bad to the train.
I.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh yeah, I did hear that Right.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Right.
So to the trained eye.
Everybody said, you know, theylook terrible, they've marched
out of step, they weren'tmarching.
Well, those kinds of things.
Um and okay, fine, um, I I will.
You know, I'll, I'll telleverybody.
It's not a secret inside themilitary.
But you know, people have thisimage in their head from movies
and TV shows that likeformations of soldiers march
everywhere.
They go on a base all the time,like that's normal.

(07:15):
They do it every day.
That is not the truth.
Um, for ceremonies like this,there's a lot of practice and
rehearsal that goes into thesethings.
But soldiers don't generallymarch.
There is very little marchingthat goes on on a daily basis.
In fact we used to make it partof our physical training
regimen.
When you did your cool downafter working out was to

(07:36):
practice marching One to keepthe skill where it should be,
but also just as a physical cooldown for what you're doing.
But we don't do a lot ofmarching on a daily basis.
So for those folks that saidhey, that doesn't look right, it
looks out of step, whatever,That'll tell you why.
But I think overall it was agood event.

(07:57):
The optics again were achallenge.
I know we're fighting thingslike there's cost to this.
People don't know that this wasalmost all completely privately
funded.
I didn't know that until just afew days ago.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I did not know that at all.
I don't even have that in mynotes.
I have no idea that was thecase.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Very little of this came out of the Army's budget or
the Department of Defensebudget.
A lot of it was funded, so thathelps, helps take away, you
know, a little bit of the stingwhen you've got, you know,
things within the military thatneed to be fixed soldiers living

(08:36):
conditions and some otherthings that can always be
improved so that that kind oftakes some of the burn off of it
.
For another thing, it's likeit's like the Trump's birthday
thing.
Right, right, oh, this costs somuch money.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well, it really didn't cost that much money
because it was privately fundedby some, some groups, some
private funding groups.
So that's good For me.
That kind of like changes a lotin the, in the sense that like
cause that was one of the bigemployees, oh, it was going to
cost so much.
It costs so much money, Cause Ithink I think the number I have
here is like so 25 to $45million for this, which kind of
blew my mind a lot.
I mean, I don't have a goodconcept of money anyhow, I'm
like a toddler with that.
So you know, no surprise that Ican't even wrap my brain around

(09:08):
that.
But so privately funded, I hadno idea.
I feel like a lot of people hadno idea of that Because, again,
you know, besides the wholePresident Trump's birthday and
he's tooting his own horn, blah,blah, blah, it's a party for
him the next thing was the costof this.

(09:32):
So that's wild.
Now I wanted to ask you why dowe not do this more often?
I know this was special in thatit was the 250th birthday, but
why don't we have any kind oflike these major celebratory
parades with our military?
Is it a safety security thingthat we don't want to put them
all in so many of them in onespot when we're under, you know,
I mean I guess we're kind ofunder constant low key threat.
But I mean, what's thereasoning for not doing it?

(09:54):
Because I love, like I said, Ilove the patriotism and I just
feel like we need more of it.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, so about 95 percent of what you saw on the
parade had to be brought in fromother places.
There's no tank station inWashington DC.
There's no.
You know they had Bradleyfighting vehicles, they had
Stryker, you know, wheeledvehicles.
They had all kinds of militaryequipment and troops brought in
from all over the country andit's not cheap.

(10:21):
So you know, if you were goingto do anywhere, you did this.
Pick your major metropolitanarea Los Angeles, chicago,
philadelphia, new York,washington DC, miami, whatever.
It's going to cost a lot ofmoney because the nation is as
big as it is and you would haveto bring everything in to do it
on the scale that they just didit.

(10:41):
And then I think the other partof it is is that we don't ever
want to be seen as amilitaristic nation, a military
based nation, while we are, youknow, the most powerful military
in the world.
It's a little bit of walksoftly and carry a big stick.
We as a nation don't want to beassociated with that.
You know, hardline,militaristic.
You know just the vibes thatit's always had associated with

(11:02):
China and the old Soviet Union.
And you know just the vibesthat it's always had associated
with China and the old SovietUnion and you know Germany and
third Reich, that kind of stuff.
Like we don't want to beassociated with that kind of you
know imagery that you get fromthose.
So I think that's why we shyaway from it.
For the most part, we do love,you know, our smaller stuff.
Flyovers are always great.
You know the Thunderbirds andBlue Angels and the Golden

(11:24):
Knights and all that cool stuff.
Air shows we do love air shows.
Those are kind of you know,nationwide but you go to one of
those and truthfully, verylittle of that is active duty
military.
So yeah, it's just the cost ispart of it.
We also don't want to have that.
As much as we love our militaryand we do I just don't think we
want that imagery associatedwith us, the United States.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
So yeah, well, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
I understand that, Did I?
So I'm like you, clay, I didnot watch it.
I watched.
You know we've talked aboutthis before, guys, right, I
watch very little televisionnews.
All of this is I literallywatch what I need to watch to
know what I need to know.
That is it, I mean, that's itin a nutshell.
So I did not watch either samething, except for clips and all

(12:08):
of those things and the research.
Now, one of the things that Iread was that only I don't.
This doesn't even seem possible.
Only Fox News aired the parade.
Is that accurate?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, I think it got very little coverage.
I know Fox covered it.
I know most of the other mediaoutlets did not, not in a live
streaming, you know kind offormat.
So, no, there was not a lot ofcoverage outside of Fox News or
the Fox News networks, familynetworks.
So, yeah, it didn't get.

(12:46):
I think somebody else coveredit, I don't remember who it was,
maybe kind of one of thosesmaller networks, maybe I don't
know who it was, but I saw it ona couple of places, but not
like you would see the State ofthe Union or you would even see
the.
You know the Independence Day,you know celebrations that they
have all the time, those kindsof things.
It was very, very littlecoverage, as is expected from

(13:10):
mainstream media.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, definitely from the mainstream.
Yeah, I just, I think it justkind of surprised me more that
the you know, the moreconservative or neutral even
stations were not carrying it.
It's kind of bizarre to me,were they focusing more on that
other thing going on all day, isthat?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
well, they, they probably were, I think, the only
other thing.
There's two things that I dowant to say about this before we
move on, cause we.
The next thing is just asimportant, probably arguably
more so, but um, two thingsabout this parade, and I don't
want, because I don't wantpeople to get things twisted.
One you know the soldiers thatparticipated in this.
They were all, like I said,brought in from other places,

(13:48):
okay, and, and you know, theirequipment was brought in, which
means that it was loaded ontorail cars or things like that,
weeks, you know, week before,two weeks before the soldiers
got there, days before there wasrehearsal.
They were probably there tilldays afterwards.
So this is, you know, this wasa big thing.

(14:10):
And, and I said, you know,cause, I've walked a bunch of
parades, I've stood in a bunchof formations, I, I've done a
lot of this stuff and I willtell you that, you know,
soldiers don't necessarily enjoythis stuff, okay, I can imagine
they would not.
You know, if it starts at nineo'clock in the morning, you can
promise that you're going to beup at 2 am.
Right, it's just, it is what itis.
So, you know, is it an honor tobe in something like this?

(14:30):
Sure, it is Five, 10 years fromnow.
They look back and go.
You know, I was in that parade.
It was pretty cool.
Sure, that morning they werecursing a lot and it's soldiers,
are soldiers.
Right, sure, there's value inthat parade.
I Right, sure, there's value inthat parade.
I think you know peoplecelebrating the Army's 250th
anniversary or birthday is isadmirable.
I think it's a thing we shoulddo.
I think the Army did a greatjob.

(14:51):
I think it was great forrecruiting, I think it was great
for visibility.
There's tons to be gained fromthis.
And again, five, 10 years fromnow, even that morning, I'm sure
there were some soldiers thatwere like, hey, this is pretty
cool, um, but there were plentyof them that were like, man, I
would rather be at home asleep,you know, in the barracks on a
Saturday morning with a hangover, but uh, but they weren't Um.

(15:11):
So you know it's, it does takea little bit of a toll, um.
And yes, soldiers have a job todo and this is part of it, and
good on them, but uh, but youknow they don't always enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah.
And then the other part is Anyof them Sorry, any of them
watching and hearing me say Iwant more, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry guys, I won't ask formore, not for a long time Not
for a very special occasion then.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well, there's going to be more of this coming up,
and so the Marine Corps birthdayis coming up this fall, their
250th, 50th, and you know you'vegot all of these things that
are coming in the next few years, um, where you're going to see
more and more of this.
Um, but there was a, there wasa tragedy at the end of this and
again I I'm surprised it hasn'tgotten more coverage in it and
it was purely an accident, uh,but a heavy equipment transport.

(15:58):
So they put these tanks ontrucks right to get them to the
rail yard instead of drivingthem through the city and
breaking up all the concretebecause they weigh 70 tons.
Um, so they loaded a tank ontoone of these heavy equipment
trucks that disperses the weightand all this other stuff and
then they drive it to the railyard.
Um, uh, one of these trucks hitand killed a woman in

(16:18):
Washington.
Oh, it was not an army vehicle,it was a contracted vehicle to
move the tank itself.
Oh boy, you know I'm verysurprised that that hasn't
gotten more press.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
This is literally the first I've heard of it.
I had no idea that thathappened.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, in an attempt to blame something, anything, on
President Trump.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Of course, right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
That did happen and it is a tragedy.
But you know, that's one ofthose things that you know,
these things don't when theydon't go off perfectly smooth,
and I don't envy any commander,any leader that was anywhere
near that formation, becausethere were rumors of President
Trump leaning over to SecretaryHegseth and going, hey, why does
that look like that?
Or hey, those guys don't lookright.
Or hey, why did that happen?
Supposedly there was a phonecall afterwards.
I don't know Rumors of that,who knows if it's true, but
these are the things that youknow unfortunately will leave a

(17:12):
lasting mark and a stain on anotherwise great day.
You know, I just don't wantpeople to take that out of
context and turn it intosomething it's not.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Right, yeah, absolutely, Because you know
well.
But whoever watches this showwill be able to say, oh, hang on
a second.
I actually know the truth ofthat.
So good job, Clay.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
But there was also another thing going on.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
No, what's there?
What's there?
I feel like, yeah, I thinkyou're right, there was
something else going on, allright.
So of course you all know we'retalking about the no kings
marches, protests, rallies Iguess it depends on who you are
and where you are what you wantto call it, but I did promise
you guys that we had a video towatch and contrast with.

(17:57):
Now, remember that beautiful,patriotic, awesome video we just
watched that just made you wantto I don't know say the Pledge
of Allegiance or something.
Well, compare it to this.
We are forced from fear andgreed to expose the lies of
patriarchy Sign.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Bigger sign Go home fascist.
Go home fascist.
Go home fascist.
You're not welcome here.
Go home, fascist.
Why I'm?

Speaker 4 (18:35):
fascist, fascist.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Around here is a shade.
Yeah, that's what, uh.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's a disgusting shirt, huh.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Oh I love it man.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, that's a disgusting shirt, huh.
Oh, I love it man.
Yeah, then there was that socharming and amazing.
I, I believe, I, I feel likewhat was the chant in?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
that first, something to the effect of we are porn
stars, something I don't,something about exposing the
patriarchy.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Exposing the patriarchy, yeah.
Okay.
So you gotta love the leftright, I mean you gotta love
them, and I don't really meanthat, as if anybody could not
guess that I'd love the factthat they created a protest and
a rally and a march aboutsomething that is not even a
thing.

(19:25):
It's not an issue.
Trump has never consideredhimself a king.
In fact, if he did considerhimself the king a king, he
probably would have banned anytype of protest or march along
those lines.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
So that is the absurdity of this right.
I mean, the absurdity is, if hewas a king, if we had a king,
there's no way that they wouldbe protesting.
They'd be allowed to protest,they would not be allowed.
No way.
So that is the number oneabsurdity of this entire thing,
Mm-hmm, yeah it just.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
You know my daughter gets on my case.
Mom, don't be judgy, Don't bejudgy about people.
And every time I say, honey,I'm not being judgy, I'm just
being honest.
This is I'm just being honest.
Here were mostly peacefulrallies, with, of course, the

(20:30):
exceptions LA.
La is your general constantexception these days.
There was an inordinate amountof elderly people.
Did you see the little brigadesof nursing home people coming
out?
I'll throw it on here, Justcoming out of what I think is
their nursing home.
I don't really know whenthey're wearing their little
crowns on their heads andthey're, you know, waving their

(20:52):
little handwritten signs and Ijust get the feeling that they
thought they were on a fieldtrip to Burger King and they,
you know, were getting.
That's why they had crowns.
I don't know if they had anyidea what was really happening.
Maybe they did, I don't know.
There was one video that cameout of it that really actually
pulled at my heartstrings andjust made me so sad and angry at

(21:14):
the same time at the left forthe way they manipulate people,
particularly mentally fragilepeople, elderly people, and it
was this older woman, I thinkshe was like 74, and she's
crying and her voice is shakingand she is.
It's genuine.
This woman was terrified thatKing Trump, you know, is what

(21:38):
they're portraying him as isjust going to take away all of
their rights and he's just goingto, you know, end America as we
know it, and she was trulyscared and sad and frightened.
And it's like this is what theydo to these people.
They take the most fragilepeople in our country and they
manipulate them into either afrenzy of, you know, mania and

(22:04):
insane violent behavior it'sjust or they do that, you know,
and these poor people are livingin terror of something that is
not even remotely a threat inthis era of this lifetime, it's
just mind boggling.
Tell me about some of the stuffyou saw in your searches there.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, so it was supposed to be between 1500 and
1800, um different locationsacross the country.
Some are much, uh, more wellattended than others.
Um, you know, I I think some ofthe smaller ones were literally
yard signs um and nothing more.
Um, I, there were estimates of4 million people participating

(22:47):
across the country, which I findabsolutely absurd One.
There's no way that you couldtell how many people were
participating, you know once youget into the larger metro areas
, but I think 4 million is crazy.
There were all of theassumptions and assertions that
people were being paid uhparticipate in this in various

(23:07):
locations.
Um, you know, and, and itstarted with the LA, uh, you
know, the LA riots, uh, thatexpanded.
They started on whatever it wasTuesday last week and then
carried on through Saturday, um,but they were being some people
were being paid $200 to toparticipate.
Um, I don't know how true anyof that is.
It wouldn't shock me even inthe least.

(23:27):
We know that the Walmartheiress was advertising
full-page ads to try and getpeople involved.
So that was an issue.
The Pacific Northwest, outsideof Los Angeles, seemed to be a
bit of a hotbed and, oddlyenough, utah, salt Lake City,
for some unknown reason, which Iwas also unfortunately the only
location for a fatalitydirectly related to, uh, the no

(23:51):
Kings rallies, where?
But but it was.
It sounded stupid.
It sounded like somebody was ina crowd, somebody started
arguing with somebody else andthen somebody shot somebody.
It wasn't a a um, you know, atargeted like shoot the
protesters, or a targeted youknow somebody who's anti-protest
or whatever it wasn't.
It just seemed like somethingsomewhat unrelated happened to

(24:14):
be in the midst of the crowd.
But you know, it's the wholething just had this weird forced
feeling to it.
You know, we'd talked about itlast week because, again, la had
had piped up and we werestarting to see the beginnings
in, um, chicago and, I think,new York maybe, but I almost

(24:36):
none of it carried into theweekend except for LA.
Um, you know, there was alittle bit, you know, in Chicago
.
I know, um, there was a littlebit New York, but not really Um,
so I know there was a littlebit in New York, but not really.
So you know, I think for themost part, I think it was a
total flop nationwide.
I don't think it many peopleyou know, other than a few key
statements by some politiciansand elected sheriffs down in the

(24:58):
great state of Florida.
You know, I don't think therewas a lot of attention paid to
it.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Truthfully, yeah, yeah, I don't.
It did not have the impact thatthey were hoping.
Whoever they are and I agreewith you, you know, I think
there were probably, to a degree, some paid actors there do,
trying to stir things up andagitate things, but I think the
general vibe was like, I thinkeven the people there are like,

(25:22):
well, I mean, what exactly?
What do we?
What are we doing?
No King, no Kings.
Okay, you know, sounds good,I'll just wave my my sign and
dress up in my silly clothes and, you know, march around.
Yeah, it was, it was silly, itwas just silly is really what it
was no impact, no effect onanything.

(25:42):
It just made them look sad,silly, bitter fools, really.
You know, this is a patrioticday.
This is, I mean, it's flag day,and you know, I did see signs,
particularly a lot more of those, the elderly crowd, which is,
you know, the angle they wereprobably taking with them, like,
take back your flag, take backyour country from.

(26:03):
You know the patriarchy andKing Trump, orange man, bad and
whatever other things they canthrow out there.
You know, it's just sad.
It's just it was a sad display.
You know this is what a greatevent the parade was, what a
great time celebrating our army,celebrating Flag Day,

(26:25):
celebrating this country, andinstead that's what you want to
do.
It's like you know, be angry.
I shared it and did acommentary on it.
I'm not going to bother, Idon't even think I'll show it on
here.
It's not even worth it.
But you know, these are one ofthese bigger protests Somebody
had set up it almost looked likea lemonade stand or no.

(26:47):
You know what it looked like.
It looked like a, uh, lucy's,um, peanuts psychiatry.
You know five cents psychiatry.
And this woman had set up thislittle stand.
It looked like that.
You know, lucy's stand on onthe peanuts or whatever.
Uh, charlie Brown and, um, shehad a Trump doll and they could
take the doll and for whatever Idon't know, a dollar, $5,
whatever it was you can yell atthe doll and bang it on the

(27:10):
table and do this, and it was avideo of this.
You know, kooky old guy doingjust that and looking absolutely
absurd, absurd.
And you know, being a greatposter child for one of the many
, for not only what's wrong inthis country, uh, but for, you
know, mental decline in in oursociety.

(27:31):
It's, it's so, and I keepharping on that because it's
just, it's so obvious, it's soclear when you look around, when
you see that video that weshared, um just the, the, the
mental.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I won't even go so far as to say mental illness,
although you know um just themental, the mental decline of
people and the things that theydo and the things that they
think are a good idea is justwow.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Please point on the doll where the orange man hurt
you Right, right.
Like you are a grown adult.
You are collecting socialsecurity.
Probably you have a pension,maybe.
I mean, this is what you'redoing with your time.
I think that's the thing thatkeeps getting me, at least in
this week.
It's the elderly people.
Those are the ones that arebothering me the most.

(28:22):
Like you should be living yourbest life right now.
You should not have pardon meeveryone.
You should not have pardon meeveryone.
You should not have an F togive.
Like you should just be livingyour life because you earned it.
Like you earned the right tojust coast and relax and do
joyful things, and like you'rejust marching around being angry

(28:43):
.
Oh, it makes me sad.
It really does.
Maybe it's just me, I don'tknow.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Unfortunately, though you know, this breeds reactions
by some people that and you andit leads to significant things
like we had in Minnesota.
Yes, Right.
Yeah, and so we had.
You know, it turned out to bewell, initial reports on Sunday
morning, even late Saturdaynight, was that there was
multiple politicians that wereattacked in Minnesota and some

(29:14):
shootings occurred.
So the first report that I sawwas that four were killed.
And then it came back and itsaid, you know, one lawmaker and
her husband were killed, andthen another lawmaker and his
wife were were injured, whichturned out to be the truth.
Um so, um, you know, uh,hortman and her husband and

(29:34):
Hoffman and his wife I had toget those right Cause I knew I
was going to mix them up for theages Um so they were lawmakers,
state lawmakers, in the stateof Minnesota.
Uh, both Democrats and uh wereattacked, you know, saturday
night in their homes and wereshot by, at that point, an
unnamed man who they knew hadbeen dressing, dressed up like a
police officer, had a vehiclewith police lights, he had a

(29:57):
police uniform, had a policebadge, those kinds of things,
and he shot and killed two andshot and killed, shot and
wounded two others, and then,boom, gone on the run.
Nobody knew where he was at um,and then, monday, I think it
was, um, it came out who it waslater, um, you know this guy,
vance bolter, um, and really hisbackground, he was a, uh,

(30:21):
lifelong democrat.
He was uh, um, you know, put.
He was a, a nominee andselected for government work by
Governor Walz, oddly enough, and, and and so he had a lot of
deep Democrat ties, or ties tothe Democrat party, and he lost
it, lost his bearings and hewent after these lawmakers.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah, I, you know so, as is always, and I
took a good, a good lesson fromyou a long time ago, early,
early days, of not jumping onthat hurry up and report it
bandwagon, for the exact reasonthat you.
You just said that like you getall of these you know wrong,
half true, half false reports,and then you spend all this time

(31:08):
backpedaling.
But all of that otherinformation now is out there and
that's what everybody's runningwith.
So I sat back on this.
I don't even know, to be honestwith you, I don't even know if
I have posted anything about itas of yet, because there's so
much as always, so muchconflicting stuff coming in.
So all of the things that I washearing initially was exactly

(31:30):
what you said Lifelong Democrat,voted Democrat, was on the Tim
Walz.
He was a Tim Walz hire, all ofthese things.
He had the no Kings flyers inhis vehicle, all of this stuff
that was strongly pointing tohim.
You know, being another crazyliberal.

(31:51):
Then I start seeing all theseother things coming from the
other side, saying that oh, no,no, no, no, he's a registered
Republican, he's a Christiannationalist, he's and I'm
sitting to go.
Well, now we're talking likeradically different stories here
, not just a little different,radically different, and, to be

(32:15):
honest with you, I still don'treally know what the truth is.
Uh, there's a lot to this storythat is kind of questionable.
A lot that's very questionable.
I have the video, the releasefrom the police there, and this
gives their rundown, and I thinkthis is probably important for
everyone to see, because this isprobably like at this moment,

(32:38):
assuming everything that he'ssaying is the truth.
I don't have a reason to notbelieve this.
We know how all the conspiracythings happen.
All I'm going to say is this iswhat they said for chain of
events and what's going on, didnot?
I don't think they make anymention of political affiliation
in this.
I can't remember now, but let'sjust watch it.
You guys can see it with us.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Brooklyn Park, minnesota, in the home of
Minnesota State RepresentativeMelissa Hortman.
At approximately 3.30 am,belter arrived at Representative
Hortman's house in his blackSUV with the police license
plates.
He parked in the driveway andleft the emergency lights on his
SUV flashing as if he was apolice officer.
Belter approachedRepresentative Hortman's home

(33:21):
again dressed as a policeofficer, wearing the tactical
vest and body armor and wearingthat hyper-realistic mask.
He was armed and carrying aflashlight.
Before he entered the home, twoBrooklyn Park police officers
arrived at the scene.
They too had been dispatched tocheck on Senator and
Representative Hortman afterlearning of the shooting of
Senator Hoffman.

(33:42):
When they arrived at the scene,they saw Belter's black SUV
parked in the driveway with theemergency lights flashing and
they saw Belter standing infront of the house several feet
from the door.
When Belter saw the officersget out of the car, he drew his
weapon and began firing.
He rushed into the housethrough the front door, firing

(34:04):
into it, rushed into the housethrough the front door, firing
into it.
He repeatedly fired into thehouse and when he entered he
murdered Representative Hortmanand her husband Mark.
The Brooklyn Park policeofficers fired at Belter as he
rushed into the home, but heescaped into the home and out
the back.
Officers recovered Belter'snine-millimeter Beretta, along

(34:27):
with the body armor and the mask, behind the home along his path
of flight when he fled on foot.
They later searched belter'scar, but they found five more
firearms, including a skullstyle rifles and a large
quantity of ammunition.
Belter also had in his carnotebooks containing a list of
more than 45 minnesota state andfederal elected officials,

(34:47):
including Representative Hortman.
Now, belter planned his attackcarefully.
He researched his victims andtheir families.
He used the Internet and othertools to find their addresses
and names, the names of thefamily members.
He conducted surveillance oftheir homes and took notes about

(35:09):
the location of their homes.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
So, you know, I mean, let's state the obvious, no
matter what the motives are,what anything is, it's you's,
it's frightening to know thatanyone can just go right on the

(35:38):
internet find out where you live.
You know all of those things.
I mean, we all should bebothered by that and I'm sure,
I'd like to believe, we all are,um, you know, as for his
political affiliations, I don'tknow, uh, the things that I
would say it's like weird to me,not politically related, just

(36:19):
the whole, that whole process ofhim going up to the door,
engaging with the police, stillgetting through the door,
killing the couple and thenescaping out the back door and
evading capture for a couple ofdays, a couple, a couple of
years.
Yeah, um, and I say that thatis so mind boggling to me,
because if you see video footageof of him um, there's some
surveillance video probablysomebody got it like on their
ring camera or something of himwalking towards the door or
something and, um, he's kind ofambling.
He's not an agile man, he's nota fit man.

(36:39):
So those are some of the thingsthat I'm kind of struggling
with and saying how come youcouldn't catch him?
That should have been like amassive manhunt right away,
right Like you're callingeverybody in, everybody's going
out.
You know, I guess he went outthe back door and just
disappeared.
I don't know.

(36:59):
I mean, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of sketchy in this and I you
know me, I only, I onlysubscribe to a couple of
conspiracy theories, but this,this has got some weird stuff
going on.
That's got to be out.
Yeah, yes, they found his car.
Yes, stuff going on that's gotto be ironed out.
Yes, they found his car.
Yes, he had a list of over 45politicians, both state and
federal or from other states,including Ohio, wisconsin and

(37:23):
Illinois, if I remembercorrectly, and he had no King's
Day propaganda in his car.
That all sounds very, veryfishy.
He did supposedly send a seriesof texts to his family that
night, apologizing to his wife,apologizing to his children,
saying, hey, daddy went to warlast night, you know.

(37:44):
Apologizing to his wife andsaid, hey, there's going to be
some armed and very itchytrigger finger people coming to
see you.
I apologize for that.
So there's a lot of like overover the top.
This is, you know, you know,vance bolter, belter, whatever
his name is like.
There are just like neon signspointing to this guy.
You know, um, I saw some of thereports like he owns a security

(38:06):
company, spent some time insouth africa.
Uh, doing that kind of workdoesn't seem like that kind of
guy doesn't seem like he has thebackground to be that kind of
guy like you said, not fit, nota guy that can be on the run for
three days.
Um, you know, and if they foundhis car with all that stuff in
it, how did he get away?
When did they find his carright and actually ditched a car

(38:28):
later on, which is one of thereasons.
It's one of the ways that theyfound him.
But is he that?
Is he that dumb to ditch hiscar with all the evidence in it?
Right, I mean, there's so manyweird things about this.
You know, the mask over hisface, um, you know, if you saw
it, it was a latex mask thatlooked very realistic, very
realistic.

(38:48):
In a ring camera.
It looked like it did not lookrealistic at all.
You know latex I get, but yeah,there's just a lot of holes in
this and none of it smells right.
It just something is wrong withall of this.

(39:11):
Minnesota that voted the onlytwo Democrats in the state of
Minnesota that crossed partylines and voted against
extending healthcare forillegals in the state, and
that's why they were targeted.
It would be very interesting toknow the 45 other.
I've seen a couple of othernames, but pull the other 45 or
so names that are on his listand cross-reference them and

(39:34):
figure out the whys, what thelinkage is, and I'm sure there's
some poor dude in the FBI.
You know in the basement doing aspider web diagram trying to
figure all this stuff out.
But yeah, it's, there'ssomething about it that just
doesn't smell right and I and Idon't know enough, and we not.
I don't think any of us knowenough to put our finger on it
right now, except for the factthat my gut says this ain't it

(39:57):
like this?
Wrong here?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is I.
I and many people who have beenfollowing along with this story
, uh, are pretty much saying thesame thing None of this is
adding up, you know?
Um, I don't know it, just itdoesn't add up.
Is this going to be another oneof those things I guess we'll
never know type of scenario?

(40:19):
Very, very possible.
I hope not, you know.
I hope they do get to thebottom of whatever the case is.
And, by the way, I mean thisshouldn't have to be said
anymore, at least not from Clayand I.
All I care about is the facts.
If the guy is a, you know,raving, raging Trump supporter,
a extreme right winger, aChristian radical, if he's, if

(40:43):
he is those things, he doesn'trepresent us, he doesn't
represent.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not going to be upsetby that because, no matter what
you know, the left is going tothink whatever they're going to
think and say whatever they'regoing to say.
What you know, the left isgoing to think whatever they're
going to think and say whateverthey're going to say.
We're going to say whateverwe're going to say, and you know
what I mean.
So we're not going to, we'renot going to have that come to
Jesus moment together, wherewe're all going to agree on it
clearly at this point.

(41:04):
I would love for that to be thecase.
If we could just finally sitdown at the table and and talk
like humans to each other.
Doesn't look like soon, butwhatever.
Whatever the truth is, that'sall I want, right?
I mean yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
And and the important thing and I you know everybody
makes jokes about Epstein andand all that, but he's got to be
protected in pretrialconfinement Like, otherwise
we're never going to know Jack.
So that's my biggest fear rightnow is I do have this guy in
custody and that he he has gotto be.
I don't care if they put him insolitary for the next two years

(41:38):
until this thing goes to trialthat guy.
He cannot be exposed topotential harm in prison because
otherwise we are never going toknow what happened.
Right?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, absolutely yeah , they're not saying.
They say he's got you know,they're talking about his notes
that he has.
They're stopping short ofcalling it a manifesto.
Right're not calling it amanifesto, they're just calling
it notes, which is interestingin itself too.
I mean again, layers uponlayers upon layers of very
interesting, curious thingsgoing on with this, um, that
aren't making sense.

(42:09):
And I believe too, uh, the wifenow again, this could be not
true.
Uh, was she stopped or caughtwith, like they said, like uh,
passports?
plane tickets like that yeahloaded loaded weapons as well
did you hear that?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
that I that I didn't hear.
I I heard travel plans, travelarrangements made for her.
Either she wasn't, you know,obviously hadn't left yet, but
it was.
If she knew, why did she leave?
If, you know, obviously hadn'tleft yet, but it was.
If she knew, why did she leave?
If she, you know, or why didn'tshe leave, or something about
that that didn't seem right aswell.
So it's, we just all got tocross our fingers and hope that

(42:47):
this comes out in the court casesomewhere or through
investigation and we figure outwhat exactly happened and why.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean.
The nutshell of it is is we'rewe're leaving this off with more
questions than answers.
Certainly, and um, you know thethe simple, uh obvious fact
that it's incredibly tragic thatthese people lost their lives,
uh over whatever kind ofinsanity.
Um doesn't matter where theinsanity stemmed from.

(43:14):
The fact is that two peoplelost their lives, um,
horrifically, and um you know,huge sympathies to their, to
their families and to theinjured uh couple as well.
It's just a whole thing's awful.
Everybody just needs to calmthe heck down and stop
instigating insane people.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Basically, you know there's a whole bunch of that
going on in the Middle Eastright now.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
There sure is.
Oh, my goodness, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, so this is an ongoing, obviously ongoing,
thing.
This is Israel-Iran conflict.
That's been going on sinceforever.
This is just the latestiteration of it, and so
preemptive attacks by Israel onIran based on an intelligence
report that said Iran was lessthan a month away from being
nuclear weapon capable notnuclear capable, not nuclear

(44:05):
energy capable, but nuclearweapon capable, which they're
not supposed to be doing.
So you know and we could gobackwards in time and talk
politics about sanctions liftedand put back on and nuclear
power versus nuclear weapons,blah, blah, blah, blah blah you
know the Israelis have steppedin once before and destroyed
sites in Iran for this exactsame reason, and so they stepped

(44:27):
in and they did it again justthe other night.
Now it's been since then.
It has been a perpetual backand forth exchange.
It's almost like somethingyou'd see out of a movie, where
it's like the Israelis do thisand then the Iranians fire back,
and then the Israelis fire back, conducting for what seems like
a very, very long time.

(45:04):
This is the fruits of that.
So they knew they had a verygood read on where Iran was in
their nuclear development and itgot to the point where it was
critical and the decision had tobe made and action had to be
taken.
So they did it.
And so you know, settingconditions, targeting
intelligence, gathering ofleadership, of scientists, of
where they live, where thefacilities were.

(45:25):
And oh, by the way, if you'regoing to do this, you might as
well hit some of the militaryleadership and some of the
national level leadership in thegovernment as well, which
Israel did.
And they did it like two levelsdown right, the chief of staff
who just got appointed four daysago, because the former chief
of staff got killed in theinitial.
He got killed yesterday, right.
So they know two and threemoves ahead, who's getting

(45:46):
placed in.
And the Israelis are continuingto assault that and kind of the
way this whole thing went down.
You know Iran invested a lot ofmoney a long time ago in an, in
their own version of a dome, youknow, air defense system to
protect them from instances justlike this.
Well, they didn't have themoney and the technology to keep
it up, and what the Israelisdid was they flew in with

(46:07):
stealth aircraft.
First they targeted some keyfacilities, but they targeted
the entire air defense network,um, and then they turned around
and they flew a bunch ofconventional planes in behind it
because Iran couldn't protectitself anymore, you know, and
and so then it just became thisperpetual, like you know,
israeli the Israelis would flyback, they'd refuel, they'd read

(46:27):
arm, they'd get about two hoursof sleep and they'd get back in
the plane and they fly andthey'd do it again.
And in the meantime, theIranians were launching missiles
and drones and whatever elsethey had, you know, in return.
So you know that they killedthe leader of the IRGC again.
This is like the fourth one ofthose in the last two years, I

(46:47):
think, that have been killed.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's got a long line of them.
It is.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I said it before when they killed Soleimani it's the
most dangerous job on the planetbecause your life expectancy is
about zero.
So you know, the questionpeople keep asking is what role
has the US played in this up tonow and what is our role going
forward?
I would tell you that you know,very indirectly, you know, and
very privately, we have been insupport of this, as we always
have.

(47:11):
We have been in support of thisas we always have.
You know, there's no secretthat President Trump and past
presidents not all but have saidIran cannot be nuclear capable
because you can't trust them todo the right thing.
You could say oh well, theydeserve nuclear power.
Well, you know, they're justgoing to take that and they're
going to turn it into a nuclearweapon capability and we can't

(47:32):
have that.
The globe cannot afford that.
So so I'm sure we supportedIsrael with intelligence, I'm
sure we supported him withmunitions and those sorts of
things.
You know, and people will saywell, what is?
You know what?
They provided a capability tothe terrorists in Iraq when I

(47:59):
was there, that that otherwisewouldn't have existed, and it
was one of the most deadlythings that we all had to deal
with.
It was called an explosivelyformed projectile inside of Iraq
.
They did not have thecapability to produce these
munitions and it's a specialtype of IED that we all had that
we all feared.
Um, but the, the capability wascoming from Iran and everybody

(48:20):
knew it.
Okay, so Iranians have directly, indirectly, been killing
Americans since about 2006.
Okay, Um, so if you thinkAmericans haven't been involved
or don't have a stake in thisagainst Iran, we we certainly do
.
Now, going forward the you knowwe've got a second strike
carrier group, you know, pullinginto the Mediterranean.
There's been reports of dozensof aerial refuelers flying into

(48:45):
the Middle East, american aerialrefuelers to support air
operations.
I would be willing to bet we'vedone things like you know
reroute satellites.
We've probably forward deployeddrones.
There's probably specialoperators on the ground right as
a whole bunch of let's providea bunch of options just in case.
And mostly, what everybody'stalking about is using our

(49:07):
stealth long range bombercapability to absolutely remove
any potential for theseunderground testing facilities
that the Iranians have beenusing labs and so forth, using
our munitions, the famous bunkerbuster bombs delivered from a
B-2 bomber, to just bury theentire project, take all of

(49:30):
their facilities, collapse it,bomb the crap out of it and be
done with it.
But in general, we willcontinue to support Israel, as
we have in the past and probablyalways will.
Um, and, and you know, for formost people, what they don't
realize is and I this is onething I did say about Saturday

(49:50):
night is that when this kickedoff, you know, when we take this
capability away from Iran, theydo have terror networks that
they support globally and itwouldn't have taken anything for
them to alert and activate thatcapability, that global
terrorist network that theysupport.
So that's my concern.
Now I have much less concernabout Iran doing anything to

(50:11):
anybody in the very near future,but that terror network that
they support globally isprobably now the biggest threat.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And I know that you know people on both sides of the
aisle are throwing a lot ofaccusations at Trump, that you
know, whatever.
I guess it depends on whattheir feeling is.
But he, you know, and I'm goingto play this for you he's very
clear on his position when itcomes to Iran, what he thinks
and what he feels and what hewants.

(50:39):
I mean, this is what he had tosay about it.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Don't want a long term war.
They're afraid that we're goingto get into a long term war.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
We're not looking for a long term war.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
We're looking.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
It's only.
I only want one thing.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
I mean he's, you know, listen,the man cannot say it any more
plainly that is what he thinks,that's how he feels, that's his
stance.
If you can take that I get that, I get the vibe that he is like
you can take that any old waythat you want to take it.
This is the fact and this ishow it is and I love him for

(51:20):
that.
You know.
I just I do and you know.
I mean I think it's safe to saythat of course nobody wants to,
wants us to get involved in awar, to be, you know, hands on
fully in it and everything.
But we do have an obligationand a commitment to Israel to be
supportive to them.
They are our friends, they'reour allies and I mean that's

(51:41):
simply the way it is, and I knowthere's a lot of people that
are not cool with that.
But too bad, so sad, I guess,right.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah, but we have, you know, the same people who
will say we have an obligationto police the globe are the same
people who don't want usinvolved with this.
And this is truthfully policingthe globe.
It's that President Trumpsaying they just can't have a
nuclear weapon and he doesn'tsay why.
But he doesn't have to say whythey just can't be.
You know, we've got whatever itis.

(52:10):
Now I think it's seven, maybenine nuclear capable countries
in the world and they are allmostly responsible grownups.
Right, this is Iran does notfit that category.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
No, I mean, this is the people shouting death to
America.
So kind of thinking that we areinvolved to a degree.
You know this is our ownpersonal interest that we're
looking out for.
You know, not just Israel isour own personal interest that
we're looking out for.
You know, not just Israel,israel, of course, but our own
personal interest, and you knowhe's.
I guess, like we said, he couldnot say any more plainly these

(52:45):
are not people who should betrusted with nuclear weapons.
Period end of story.
And you know.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yeah, and and not only can they not be trusted
that they won't employ them,they can be trusted to the point
that they won't sell them.
I mean, that's an even biggerkind of scary scenario is that
they would build six, keep fivefor themselves, take the sixth
one and sell it to some crazed,lunatic radical Islamic terror

(53:12):
group and then lose track of it.
And then nobody knows where itis or what it's doing or who has
it or what you know the targetis.
So you know that's an evenbigger crazy scenario that that
nobody on earth can afford tohave.
Because you know, once itleaves governmental hands of any
kind, um, then you, thenanybody, everybody's at risk.

(53:33):
Um, you know it could end up insome, they could sell it to
Zelinsky for crying out.
You know what I mean.
And then Russia's at stake, oryou know what I mean.
So there's a lot of fear inthis and I think everybody's on
every rational person's on thesame sheet of music that they
can't have this.
And unfortunately we're at thepoint now where the US does not

(53:53):
have the option of not beinginvolved Directly and publicly
involved.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, you just answered my question.
I was going to ask you do youthink that our direct
intervention is inevitable?
And it sounds like the answeris yeah.
Yeah, it is inevitable.
Yeah, yeah, I know very littleof the war stuff, but it seems
kind of like a given to me thatthat is the case, seems kind of
like a given to me that thatthat is the case.
You know, the only way thatthat could not happen is if Iran

(54:19):
just stops and says whoa, whoa,we give up, you win, we're not
going to.
You know, obviously you'd haveto back that up with absolute
proof.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
And well, you know, President Trump did say to the
supreme leader, the Ayatollah,and said you know, unconditional
surrender, leader the Ayatollah, and said you know,
unconditional surrender.
There have been a number ofpeople that have said that this
is a grand opportunity for theyouth movement within Iran to
overthrow the government becausethere is, in a weird turn of
events, a youth movement thatwants to be westernized.

(54:51):
And I say that's weird becauseif you know any of the history
of Iran, the reason that theyhave the government that they
have now was because of a youthmovement in 1980.
So, like they were a hardlineIslamic youth movement that
overthrew a very kind ofmoderate government.
And you know, 40 years later,here we are.

(55:12):
40 years later, here we are.
But now they're hoping that theopposite happens and that a
much more westernized, liberal,modern youth movement, less
religious, has the opportunityto overthrow and maybe kind of
settle things down a little bit.
So we'll see what happens, butI think we're going to see
something significant happen,probably within the next, I
would say, 72 hours.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Oh, that's a great moment toremind everyone.
Yes, we are recording onWednesday, guys.
You guys and us in the commentswill be watching on Thursday
evening.
So for you, right now it'sThursday.
We're recording a day early.
If anything happens between thetime of this recording and the
time of this airing.

(55:51):
Now you know why.
We're not covering whateverthat might be, so hopefully
nothing happens, but you know welike to do this is what you
know.
We like not covering whateverthat might be, so hopefully
nothing happens, but you know welike to do this is what you
know.
We like to call it the weeklyrecap.
We recap all the week's eventsfor you, so you don't have to
watch it.
You don't even have to.
You can be like us and onlywatch what you absolutely need
to watch to be informed, andthat would be us.
We will get you informed.

(56:12):
We'll hopefully make you smileand laugh a little bit along the
way, and yeah, so there you goNow you know we tell you every
week, just in case somebodywants to get in that comment
section and yell at us.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
And they inevitably do.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
They do anyhow.
They do anyhow and that's okay.
We have one very last quickthing to mention here.
Fbi, Kash Patel, drops abombshell or is it a bombshell?
I mean, if I guess it dependson who you ask drop the
bombshell that they declassifieddocuments alleging that the CCP
interference in 2020, includinga plot using fake US driver's

(56:47):
licenses to cast mail in ballotsfor Biden.
So, basically, you know, thiswould suggest confirmation that
the 2020 election was tamperedwith was.
Well, it was tampered with.
It was I don't know if he'sgoing so far to say stolen.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
And I think the kicker is, like Senator Grassley
pay attention to is not whetheror not it was successful,
because we can't go back in timeand fix things, but we can hold
people accountable.
In August of 2020, before theelection, and Christopher Wray

(57:36):
was the director of the FBI atthe time, and these Intel
reports got out and then theyall got recalled back into the
bureau and then it alldisappeared.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
And he said it never existed, it never happened.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
And that, I think, is probably the biggest thing out
of all of this that we need topay attention to, because that
is not just evidence of Chinabeing involved and interfering
and potentially even alteringthe outcome of the election, but
what you've got now is a formerFBI director and probably most
of the bureau leadership onboard with this, protecting it

(58:12):
and really probably being a partof it.
And oh, by the way, who arethey talking to at the time?
So that's, that is, I think,christopher Wray, and his link
and all of that Intel stuff isprobably the bigger story than
than anything else, but we'llhave to wait and see, cause
that's really all we know, right?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
That's it.
That's that's all we've got sofar, and I know a lot of people
are sitting back on.
We already know, we alreadyknow this, yeah, we already know
this, but it's the confirmation, it's the proof and it's the
accountability that matter rightnow.
Like Clay said, we can't, wecan't go back in time, we can't
give President Trump a thirdterm.
A third presidency can't bedone.

(58:49):
It's, that is over Now.
We just need to do whatever canbe done, you know, and we have
a responsibility to do whateverwe can do to prevent that from
ever happening again, and thatgoes for either side.
We don't want anybody cheatingto get into that role.
We want it fair and square,even if it's not who we want.
Just fair and square.

(59:11):
Fair and square facts, honesty,accountability, like these are
such basic things that weshouldn't even have to be bullet
pointing, right, I mean?
But this is, this is where weare in the world.
It's OK, though.
It's OK, we're going to watchthis one.
We'll watch it for you guys.
We'll watch all of the thingsthat are going on and we'll
report back on those andwhatever else is happening next

(59:33):
week as well.
This was a great show, clay.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yeah, I think we probably need to start keeping a
tally board of, like you know,kind of unresolved and do maybe
do a wrap up show.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
What a great idea.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I love that.
So, like the topic that we needto keep an eye on in the future
and make sure it doesn't dieand disappear, we probably need
to keep track of these and do ahey, three weeks ago we talked
about this and now it's this.
I love that We'll think throughthat one, folks, and we'll
figure out a way that we can dothat without being too
cumbersome.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yes, absolutely.
I got nothing left.
I had a great week.
I'm looking forward to a greatweek.
Got a conference going on thisweek that I'm going to.
That'll be a lot of fun,Completely unrelated to anything
that I do.
Normally this is for somebodyelse, so go figure.
You know it's not enough timeof the day to do all of the
things, but that's that, and I,as always, Claire, I love

(01:00:24):
hanging out with you and talkingall this stuff.
It's always an education for mebecause you know things that I
don't know and I like that.
It's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Well, we've been doing it for almost two years
now, so clearly it works and youknow I appreciate doing this
every week with you, but formostly for everybody else.
Um, love hanging out with youguys, popping on uh, you know,
whether it's a Facebook orYouTube or whatever during the
broadcast and being around, um,so we love doing it for you and,
uh, you know, until next week,keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Take care guys.

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