June 12, 2025 • 66 mins
America faces orchestrated chaos as riots in Los Angeles expose the refusal of California leadership to protect citizens and law enforcement. What started as protests against ICE operations has devolved into full-scale rioting with evidence of pre-positioned supplies and planned coordination.
• Chinese nationals caught smuggling dangerous biological materials through University of Michigan
• University officials under scrutiny after multiple smuggling incidents involving Wuhan connections
• RFK Jr. fires entire Vaccine Advisory Council, removing pharmaceutical industry influence
• Simone Biles faces backlash after attacking Riley Gaines over transgender athletes in women's sports
• Elon Musk and President Trump's public spat demonstrates real-time news happening without media filters
• LA riots spreading to other major cities ahead of planned "No Kings Day" demonstrations
• California leadership actively opposing National Guard deployment to protect federal officers
• Clear evidence of coordination behind riots with pre-positioned supplies and funding
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
it's the Elsa Kirk show with Clay Novak serving up
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Kirk collection and Refuge Medical.
And now it's time for the show.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
So well, hey, there slight little change to the
intro, just a little.
You know I'm that person thathas to move furniture around
like every couple of months,just because.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
How are?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
you, I'm good.
Don't let anything stagnate.
That's good.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Right, you can't get toocomfortable in life.
I like it.
It's good.
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm good.
I'm good.
I already warned you.
I warned Clay guys before westarted recording on Wednesday.
Look at me bringing that rightin.
I'm discombobulated.
So y'all are going to have tobear with me today.
I don't know what my problem is.
I have no excuses.
Just bear with me.
I'm just.
I'm like out of sorts.
You ever have a day like that.
I don't know, is it supposed tobe like a full moon or
(01:12):
something tonight?
I don't know, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't follow, nor do I believe in any of that
stuff, so I, I, I don't, youknow the full moon thing and all
that, but regardless, we dohave a.
You know, we're going to dosomething a little bit different
, format wise, with the show.
Usually we start out with our,our big topic, the one that we
spend the most time on.
We're going to flip the show alittle bit, we're going to knock
out maybe four or five smallerones and then, and then we're
(01:39):
going to spend probably the backhalf of the show talking about
the big one.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And we'll get started right after this Tonight on the
Elsa Kurt show with Clay Novak.
From Greta's cosplay crusade tobio lab breaches, from broken
trust in science to transconfusion in sports and, yes,
riots in the streets thesearen't random headlines.
They're coordinated symptoms ofa culture that's rejected truth
and replaced it with feelings.
We're not here to coddle it.
We're here to call it out withbold faith real truth and
absolutely no apologies.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And now it's time for the show.
Oh, such an intense littleintro there, but we're not
starting off.
That's right.
I kind of like it too.
It's kind of fun.
We are not starting off intense, we're starting off with kind
(02:34):
of like a head shake and achuckle.
Here, talking about Greta'sgreat adventures, or not so
great adventures, I have so manymixed feelings about this girl.
You know, on one hand sheinfuriates me and you know I
just kind of want to mom, smackher upside the side of her head.
And.
And there's the other side.
That can't help but feelingthis sympathy towards her
because I think as a child shewas brainwashed and manipulated
(02:58):
and just completely brainwashedby the people who are supposed
to be having her best interestsat hearts and clearly just have
used her as as a tool, as aweapon, basically, and, uh, and
and.
Here we are, and um, I'm I feellike everybody does know what
I'm talking about Um, but we'retalking about, uh, greta's uh
(03:18):
and her merry band ofinfluencers.
Um, brilliant idea to take theirlittle flotilla, their
influencer flotilla or selfieflotilla, right over to Gaza to
bring them some aid because theycare so much.
And, by the way, here they are,you know, just on their very
(03:45):
serious, deep, profound mission,because they're such
humanitarians, having a greatold time taking their little
videos and their selfies and alltheir fun things.
It's just, I didn't bother withthe sound because I don't even
want to hear them, I just, Ijust want you to see what their
adventure, you know?
Basically, look like.
I mean, these kids look likethey're just going on a little
(04:06):
sightseeing tour, you know, thisis how you know of their
complete lack.
There she is, there's Greta.
Um, their whole lack ofanything, anything whatsoever.
Clay, what are your?
What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
yeah, so so it was a crew of 12 um and they had a, a
ship.
I can't remember the name of it.
I'll be honest with you.
I was shocked to find out.
Greta was 22 years old.
I I guess she's been thatpresent in the news cycle for
long enough that I still thoughtshe was a kid.
She still looks like a teenager.
(04:47):
She still looks like a child.
I truly believe that there'ssomething maybe developmentally
wrong with her.
Do we still like Asperger's?
I don't know if that's still acommon use term or not, but I
would say she's in that probablyhigh functioning autistic
(05:08):
category.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
That was always the, the phrase or the term that was
used along with her for as longas she's been in the public eye
and that was kind of like theirbig like I hate to use it, but
how dare you, moment you can'tmake fun of her, she, she has.
And, yes, then they did call itAsperger's.
I don't think they call itAsperger's anymore, I think they
(05:32):
just label it as being on thespectrum.
Um, but that was like their bigtalking point, like you cannot
make fun of this girl, thischild, um, because she has an
issue here, a disability, and um, you know, now, if you say
you're just being mean, I don'tknow, but I truly do think there
is something there.
(05:52):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I've been called mean before, so I'm not really
worried about it.
But you know, so her plus 11 ona single ship with aid,
humanitarian aid to Gaza, andyou know cross, you know a
portion of the Mediterranean.
They got picked up by theIsraeli Navy, got boarded, got
(06:14):
detained.
You know the amount of aid.
It turns out that was on theirlittle boat was less than a
single truckload, and on a dailybasis.
You're talking like 120 trucksfull of aid going to Gaza every
day.
So, while I think I don't thinktheir intentions were good, I
don't think they were altruistic, I think, truthfully, this was
(06:36):
a prop job.
This was a hundred percentabout the selfie, about the
press and all of that.
So I got boarded, they gotdetained.
Uh, there was a rumor that theywere forced to sit and watch
live footage um, and not Israelifootage, but captured footage
or footage used by Hamas.
Uh, over seventh of theatrocities they were committing.
(06:59):
Um, I don't know if that's trueor not, but that that was the
rumor, um, if, if it's true, Ithink that's probably one of the
best punishments that thatcould ever be levied on them.
Then her, along with three ofthe 12, signed deportation
orders or allowed themselves tobe deported.
(07:20):
She's claiming that, or someoneadvised her that she can do
much better uh, outside ofisrael have more effects.
So therefore, she signed thedeportation order.
Funny enough, put her, uheco-loving little butt, on an
aeroplane, uh, and flew her backto europe yeah but the other,
(07:41):
yeah, the other eight whichsomewhere in this 12 person, um,
you know, contingent is a, uh,eu parliament member, so there's
a, an elected or an appointedofficial governmental official,
you know, in this crew, um, butthey sent eight are still
sitting in israel right now, uh,waiting for whatever happens to
(08:03):
them next.
But this was all.
It was all a ruse, it was allgarbage.
I think truthfully.
As much as well, I think thatyou know, we would have loved to
have just seen the Israeli Navywave at them as they went by
and let them dock in Gaza andjust see what happened.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Let them do it.
Yes, they really.
You know there's a, there is.
I agree.
There is a huge part of me thatsays should have just let them
go.
Let them go and see how great itis there, how well received
they are, you know, with theirselfies.
Go ahead, take your selfieswith the, with these people, see
, see how well that all turnsout for you.
But yeah, you're exactly right,it was a 59 foot boat.
(08:41):
It had less than a singletruckload of supplies like less
than a single truckload.
And just you know, just as theside note, and I don't know how
many people realize this, butthe Trump administration backed
Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,successfully delivered more than
eight million meals to Gazanssince its operation began less
(09:05):
than a month ago, and that'saccording to the organization.
So you know, comparing Greta'sefforts to that.
And then again, look at thischild's joy at being offered a
snack by the big bad Israelis,right by the big mean bad people
.
She didn't seem so mad aboutgetting that little snacky snack
(09:28):
from them.
Huh, oh, and the yes.
So I did hear the same thing youdid about them being, you know,
forced to watch that footage.
And I also heard, incontinuation of that, that they
allegedly supposedly all turntheir backs and refuse to watch.
(09:49):
And if that is true at all, ifthere is truth to that, they are
the biggest cowards, pieces ofgarbage on the planet.
You absolute garbage, cowardsyou.
If that?
If that's the case but itwouldn't surprise me if that's
the case so well, I'll look intoit more.
I'll.
I'll try and find out ifthere's any real confirmation of
(10:11):
it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Do not.
Do not waste your time withthis.
We should all stop wasting ourtime with Greta.
All of us Like this shouldn'thave been reported.
This shouldn't have been in thenews cycle.
No one should care.
She's a 22 yearyear-old,truthfully mal-raised probably,
(10:33):
and emotionally unstable younglady that needs psychiatric help
and we should stop perpetuatingher problem as humanity Like we
should just get that young girlsome help and move on.
We've got to stop putting anyattention on her and getting her
out from in front of a camera.
It's terrible.
So, please, Elsa, don't wasteany more time on this.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You know what?
I agree with you.
You're absolutely right.
If you guys want to find out,go find out.
I'm washing my hands of this.
Yeah, yeah, and you know, andit's true, and you know, as a
society, honestly, and I and I'mthrowing myself in it, I've,
you know, reported on this umalready once or twice on on my
(11:10):
page and all of that stuff andum, yes, it is not only is it
giving the attention thatthey're seeking, um, and and,
just you know, platforming themwith their absurdities, it's
also when you add that layer ofsomebody who is not mentally fit
(11:31):
.
That's like the only way I'mthinking of putting it.
I'm sure there's other ways Icould have phrased that.
That's the way I'm phrasing it.
You know, it is time to kind oflike move away from it and not
keep feeding into the absurdity.
Really.
So, yes, that's it, that's allwe're talking about with that
girl.
We're going to move on to one.
(11:52):
That makes my stomach do asomersault.
I just I barely can evendiscuss this just because of
that one word right there.
I, I can't do it, but I can, Ican, I, I can't.
I'm professional.
Clay, I got this.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, the good news is the worms weren't actually on
the plane, so that's the goodnews, but so there's a trend
coming out of the University ofMichigan which is very, very
scary.
The one that we're talkingabout initially is her name.
Is I'm going to, I'm going toto try this, and this is the
only one I'm going to try,because there's two other names
that I'm definitely not going totry.
(12:28):
I think this is uh, uh,changshuan Han.
I think is her name.
Um and uh so she is a.
She is a PhD student at uh, theuniversity in Wuhan.
Go figure, um and and over thecourse of 2024, and I think into
(12:51):
2025, she sent four packages toa colleague at the University
of Michigan, where they werereceived, and those are the
worms that we're talking about.
Right, it's a roundworm whichhas the potential to have impact
on all kinds of things US cropsand others.
So she was picked up at theDetroit Metro Airport.
(13:12):
When she landed, she lied tocustoms, then she lied to the
feds and she lied, and she liedand she lied.
So the intent she smuggledthese worms through the mailing
system.
She deleted, cleared her phone,her electronic device three
weeks before she came to theStates, lied upon arrival, and
(13:35):
then, once she was arrested, youknow, she lied some more and
some more, and finally it allcame out.
My question, though, is who?
I applause to him, but who?
Who either turned her in fromthe University of Michigan, or
is this a result of the othertwo Chinese nationals who got
busted in connection with theUniversity of Michigan just a
(13:59):
week and a half ago?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, no matter what,
obviously, university ofMichigan, you know, needs to be
looked at under a magnifyingglass right now.
So you know, because theobvious question what's going on
here?
Why is this happeningspecifically here?
Why is this being allowed tohappen?
And you know, the scary thoughtis, of course, how much has
(14:22):
gone undetected.
You know how many things havehave slipped through that we are
not aware of right now.
And we've got these, you know,biohazards, you know, just
lurking around.
So, yeah, you know, I feel likeit's obvious to say that these
people need to be.
(14:43):
If they're foreign nationals,right there're.
I mean, they're not from this,she's not from this country,
correct?
She's here on what?
Student visas and all of thatstuff.
Okay, so that needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think she was here on some no, I don't know, I
don't maybe a work visa of somekind or something like that, but
hers was supposed to be not shewas not on a student visa.
She's working PhD work, you know, at the Wuhan university.
I think hers might've been a,even a, a tourist visa.
I don't think I've ever seen itclarified, but it didn't.
(15:16):
You know, I think part of thereason that she shipped that
stuff is because she didn't wantany of that detected.
But you know the incidentbefore this, very similarly
related.
So you've got a uh, a femaleagain I'm not going to try and
pronounce these names.
So you've got a female uhworking at the university of
Michigan, chinese national rightUm, who coordinated with her
(15:41):
boyfriend who works in a lab inChina to send over or smuggle a
fungus that definitely affectscrops, right, can be used as a
bioterror weapon, and so he gotnabbed at the.
You know, he got nabbed, shegot nabbed, and then I.
I just wonder if that is whatopened up.
(16:04):
You know, or gave enoughinformation to the feds to pick
up this first one.
But yeah, I mean University ofMichigan under a magnifying
glass or a microscope, no punintended, is really like there's
something very, very scarygoing on out of that place that
(16:29):
place.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yes, yeah, and you couple that with the you know
the um, the knowledge that thefact that China has bought up
like an absurd amount offarmland in this country, you
know.
So, listen, I don't know whoseresponsibility it is to stop
this, but they better get thehell on it.
Does that fall under my guythere, RFK Jr, Does that fall
(16:49):
under him?
I mean, it's kind of like amixed thing.
It's like defense issue too,because this is potential
bioterrorism.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I would say this is cross cabinet.
You've got somecross-departmental coordination
that's going to happen.
You know Health and HumanServices, for sure.
Department of Agriculture, forsure You've got.
You know Department of HomelandSecurity, you've got DOD.
Like I think everybody plays alittle part.
You know a part in this.
(17:20):
Either it's lending expertiseor you know law enforcement
implications, defense, terrorimplications.
Yeah, this has a lot oftentacles to it, but you're
(17:40):
right, several members ofCongress are trying to rectify
in ways of either limiting,stopping any further purchases
or even eminent domain andtaking it back, which would be
an interesting move politically.
But yeah, this is scary stuff.
You know this is.
This is pretty scary that it'sit's on the radar, that it's
(18:02):
this blatant, but also that it'stied to a very prominent and
well-known university in theUnited States.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yes, yeah, I would imagine, and I'm sure it's
already being done, but I'm surethe Trump administration is
looking at their funding whatkind of government, anything
that they're getting right and,you know, hopefully we're going
to see some revocation of thatthe whole thing is is just crazy
(18:31):
to me and and I always have to,like, stop myself a little bit,
and and I think this is verycommon for a lot of us Like we
hear about these things, I wantto see something done
immediately.
You know, like, right now, Iwant to see major action, and
the truth of the matter is isthat there's so much happening
government wise, behind thescenes, and they're, you know, I
(18:53):
do fully believe that they areworking on this, um, you know,
as we speak, um, but, yeah, it's, it's really frightening.
So, yeah, really frightening,so yeah, yep, well, I think that
um I think that actually goesright into nicely with.
(19:13):
uh, since I already brought themup, we're gonna we're gonna
move right into this guy andguys.
We're kind of going throughthese a little bit quicker only
because our last topic is, youknow, a bigger one.
It's such a big topic, so we're, you know, moving a little bit
quickly here for them.
But this is one of the things,this goes, this goes.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Go ahead.
Don't let the media fool you onthis.
So RFK Jr fired the entireVaccine Advisory Council, which
I think was in the neighborhoodof 12 to 14 people I don't know
if that number is right, but Ithink I read that somewhere but
he took them all and he firedthem, and this is being
portrayed as he's an anti-vaxxer, that these are experts in
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vaccines, that somehow they havea goodness in their heart,
altruistic role.
These folks on this vaccineadvisory council are either
lobbyists or owned by lobbyistsor owned by big pharma.
These are the people who areinside of Health and Human
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Services who are advocating forspecific vaccines for specific
reasons.
And if you ever look at the, Iknow you you spoke about this, I
think, a while ago where thenumber of vaccines has escalated
, like it's increasedexponentially in the last 25
years.
This, this advisory council, isthe reason why, and that's why
(20:41):
he got rid of them.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes, yeah, absolutely .
This is, you know, one of thosemoves that I've been waiting to
see.
I'm so glad to see it happening.
And of course, of course, theleft is, you know, screaming oh,
he's anti-science, you know, no, no, that's not the case.
And these are, by the way, thesame people that you know pushed
a vaccine and denied theexistence, the reality of
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natural immunity and all ofthose things.
So you know the motives onthese people, as you well stated
.
You know, not in our bestinterest, not in our best
interest and getting paid on ourdime.
So you're out of here.
He did the old Trump you'refired routine.
I hope he actually did.
(21:28):
I would love if he just walkedinto a big like board meeting or
whatever and just fired.
It's just a little visuals thatI like, but yeah, I mean, this
is again.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, there was an interesting quote that kind of
results.
Somebody was asking him aboutthis, about firing this
committee, about getting rid ofall of them.
Somebody was asking him aboutthis, about firing this
committee, about getting rid ofall of them, and then about I
guess HHS is going through alittle bit of a rehiring of
certain people that they'vealready let go and this he's the
first government official Ihave heard say this.
But he said as a result of Doge, right, all of the people that
(22:03):
got fired as a result of Doge.
He said we knew that we weregoing to make mistakes and that
we would have to rehire about20% of the people we fired.
We knew that going in as aresult of the Doge cuts it was
not surprising to him totallyanticipated, which we've seen
(22:23):
across other departments.
He is the first one.
Especially, he's the first lead.
I think that has said that outloud and I thought that was
really really interesting thatit kind of got tied in with this
firing of the vaccine advisorycommittee.
But he did say it out loud.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Interesting.
Do you think that you know,along with everything else, that
the the financial purposes ofdoing a, doing that and just the
logical reasons for doing that?
Do you think part of that alsoinvolves trying to rebuild the
public trust?
Because you know to state theobvious, public trust in, in all
(23:03):
of these governmentorganizations is, at like, a
negative zero, and I can speakfor myself personally if it's
coming from the government, Idon't trust it.
It's a flat out no, thank you.
And there's so much work aheadto be able to rebuild that trust
.
Do you even think that it'spossible?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I do, and I think that this is part of it
and I think you're starting tosee it in the media as well.
If you saw ABC I can't rememberthe guy's name, but the guy who
interviewed president Trumpfrom ABC on his hundredth day it
was the hundred day interview,a hundred days in office.
Over the weekend he made atweet on X office.
Over the weekend he made atweet on X whatever you can, x
(23:47):
post, whatever um where he hetalked about the president and
he called him.
You know he said somethingderogatory about him.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I didn't think it was really that big of a deal, but
he called him a world-classhater or something like that.
I don't know.
Oh right, stephen Miller, hewas calling yeah Right.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So then then he deleted it.
He deleted the tweet, but ofcourse the Internet is it does
what it does.
Somebody caught it, somebodyreposted it and then he got
suspended and then got fired.
Listen, we're all strugglingwithin the media to regain the
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trust of the American public andyou know it sucks that he got
fired.
But this is what has to happenin today and this is coming from
people inside of mainstreammedia is like we can't do this
anymore.
We have to regain the trust ofAmerica and having stuff like
this happen we can't tolerate.
And I think you're to your pointwith RFK, I think it's the same
(24:47):
thing.
I think all of the doge firingwas literally cut away, all of
the stuff that we don't knowwhether we need it or not.
And if we ended up we do needit, then we'll bring back what
we need, but eventually.
But you know, we'll cut, we'llget to the core of cutting away
what we don't need.
So you know it was.
(25:08):
We talked about doing itsurgically versus kind of the
slash and burn, and I think whathe's addressing is the slash
and burn that they did and thatwas cut 80 percent and we'll
probably have to bring back 20percent anyway, but they knew
that going in.
So I think that you are goingto see that and continue to see
that in the government, butyou're also going to see it in
(25:28):
the media for the exact samereason.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah Well, I'll tell you what I wish the media luck
in doing that.
I know I can say right now andfor the very far foreseeable
future that's not going tochange for me.
They are never going to be myfirst source for information.
They're actually going to bethe counter source, you know, of
(25:56):
the all right.
Well, what is the left saying?
You know, and just to have itfor reference, just to know what
they're saying, but to um, totake them with any any sort of
authority or trustworthy sourcefor any information.
And it's only going to getworse and harder.
(26:17):
It already is that case of,obviously, with AI and
manipulated videos andmanipulated uh images and all of
those things, I mean we're inbig trouble because nobody
trusts anybody and they don'ttrust us either.
Clay, if I post something youknow on there, fake, fake news,
(26:39):
it's not even real.
And if the audio doesn't syncup like so perfectly which guys?
Sometimes that happens,especially when you're resharing
and re uploading things.
The audio and video don'talways sync perfectly.
Um, they're like it's fake,they're it's you know, it's AI,
it's like.
Oh, I mean, I can't even argue,you can't even.
(26:59):
And the amount of checks youhave to go through yourself to
make sure, like I almost sharedI, you'd be so proud of me.
I almost shared something.
It was a meme, um, and it mightbe accurate now at this point,
but it was.
It was something maybe you'veseen it supposedly that kamala
harris posted for a um, a newgraphic, and it's really it's oh
(27:23):
, the 2028 yeah yes I see yeahyes, and I ran that through.
I ran it through, ai, sorry guysand asked is did she really
post this?
Because I didn't see itanywhere.
I'm not saying that she didn't,I still don't know.
You can yell at me in thecomments if you know, um, but I
found it very hard to.
I'm like like she's not thebrightest bulb in the box, but
(27:49):
I'm not really sure she posedthat.
So you guys know it came backwith no.
By the way, it came back withat that point in time, which was
yesterday, it came back withnowhere that you know we
searched was this image on anyof her things.
So whatever, but it makes itreally difficult.
(28:09):
So I applaud I, you know, Icontinually applaud RFK Jr for
making those efforts and and notjust efforts actually following
through and doing things thathe said he was going to do, and
I hope that continues and I hopewe see the results of that soon
.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, we're going to get back, we're going to touch
more on, you know, trusting themedia in our, in our final,
because they're playing a bigrole in in that.
But you know, right now we keepyou and I've said it a number
of times that independentjournalism and, truthfully,
things going out on social mediaare telling the truth.
(28:50):
So then the mainstream mediaand sometimes people tell on
themselves Right and, and so wehad a little.
You know, you and I talkedabout this before we recorded
last week, folks, we recorded onWednesday, thursday the show
came out, but also thursdaymorning there was the spat that
broke out between presidenttrump and elon musk, right and
(29:11):
and, and it brewed for, you know, probably about four days like
at a high boil and then it kindof tapered off and then, you
know, now we've got that sort ofelon apology.
Know, he claimed that thepresident was in the Epstein
files and, and you know, uh,threatened to shut down SpaceX
and, like it, got off the railsvery, very quickly, um, but it
(29:34):
was all done and it was all donefrom from their verified
accounts, Right, so you knowwhen.
When we're watching these thingshappen, there isn't even time
for the media to react.
We're all getting at the sametime as the media, we all do our
own interpretation and we'reseeing news happen real time
(29:55):
with no filters.
Glad this one has tapered off.
I know there was a lot ofpeople who immediately went to
oh, it's a conspiracy, theyplanned it, this is on purpose,
this is so they could expose theEpstein files and blah, blah,
blah and all kinds of stuff.
I don't know how true any ofthat is.
(30:16):
I thought it was just two egoscrashing into each other in real
time, and so it is what it is.
But we had another one just inthe last 48 hours.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Back to back.
Yes, back to back craziness.
Simone Biles really stepped ina big pile of you know what.
I don't know what this girl wasthinking.
She clearly did not run thesestatements through her PR team
to get approval.
She went on attack, she wentafter Riley Gaines, basically
called her a bully and then wenton to body shame her and
(31:07):
essentially say that she lookslike a man.
So that obviously did not goover well.
And, as you said before, theinternet does what the internet
does and it found, like almostimmediately, past statements
from Simone Biles, her testimonyagainst I forget the guy's name
, maybe you'll remember his name, but, um, thank you, uh, you
(31:31):
know, for his abuses against, uh, women in in gymnastics and the
sports and everything, and thatshe testified against that.
And you know the irony, theirony, the hypocrisy of her
statements.
And it just came right back andblew up right in her face.
(31:51):
And and then now this actuallysurprised me.
Tell me if this surprised youshe actually did backpedal and
apologize.
I think it was a crappy apology, much like Elon's, which I'll
go back to that one in just aminute too.
But these crappy apologies, youknow it was long winded apology
, uh, much like Elon's, whichI'll go back to that one in just
a minute too.
But, um, these crappy apologies,you know it was long winded, it
was very PR done, right, youknow, like I'm sorry I said
(32:14):
those things.
But you know, when you add, butit's not an apology, you don't
want the minute you add, but youknow it's kind of like a
backhanded apology, right, youknow, my husband says I'm very
good at the backhanded apology,I'll say something I don't do
this anymore, guys, okay, don'tcome for me.
You know something like well,I'm sorry that you got hurt,
(32:35):
you're feeling hurt by.
You know, that's not really anapology, that's a backhanded
apology and that's kind of whatboth of them did apology and
that's kind of what both of themdid.
And Elon's apology nowhere in itwas the word I apologize or I'm
sorry.
It was.
You know, basically I made someregrettable, some regrettable
(32:56):
statements and it was kind oflike that's the end of it, you
know.
So I don't know.
So, yeah, all right, we'll see.
We'll see him for one minute.
Do you think Trump should,should have or should, accept
his apology?
He did, to the best of myknowledge, he accepted the
apology and that was kind of theend of it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't think it'll die until we see the two of them
in the same.
I think there will always be,whether real or fabricated,
there will always be tensionbetween the two of them, um, in
because Trump doesn't let stufflike this go Um and it, you know
.
So, um, we're going to have tosee them in the same place,
(33:35):
smiling and shaking hands,before anybody believes that you
know gone and forgotten, um.
So I, I think he should um, andI think he should specifically
because, um, I, I think it's inthe best interest of the United
States for the two of them toget along, um, I think it's in
the best interest of globalspace exploration for the two of
(33:57):
them to get along Um.
So I, I think, president Trump,you know the two of them need
to iron this out.
I think president Trump willprobably invite him to the white
house or tomorrow, lago, andthey'll, they'll figure it out
between the two of them, um.
But you know, this thing withsimone biles and riley gaines
started because riley gainesmade a comment, in true form, um
(34:18):
, about the minnesota softballteam that we talked about last
week.
Right, that this you know boy uhknow, pitched for them and won
them the state championship, andRiley Gaines said something
about it, because that's herplatform, I mean, literally it
is.
That was her and the LeahThomas thing.
That's what she's been livingfor the last like four years.
(34:39):
And so she said something.
And then Simone Biles saidsomething back and then, yeah,
she made a comment about youknow, you should probably pick
on somebody.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Pick on someone your own size or something.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Interestingly enough, a man.
And then Riley Gaines comesback and goes I'm a, I'm five,
five and one hundred and thirtyfive pounds and you know, and,
and really Riley Gaines, Ithought, did a very good job
throughout this, keeping hercomposure and giving Simone
Biles tons and tons of creditalong the way, the things that
(35:10):
she's done, the things thatshe's accomplished until and you
brought it up the Larry Nassarcomments.
I thought Riley Gaines probablywent a little bit far dragging
that into this.
It's a super, super sensitivetopic, right, and you know it
was probably a little bit much,but relevant.
(35:30):
So you know I don't faltertotally, but it was.
You know that was what it'slike sticking your finger on a
hot burner kind of thing.
But you know you're right,simone Biles did come back, she
did apologize it was a very PRwritten apology and then Riley
Gaines turned around and saidwell, if you apologize, then why
(35:51):
don't you join me in this fightto protect women's sports?
And that's where we're at rightnow, because I don't think
Simone Biles responded to thatone.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
No, and she probably won't.
I mean that you know kudos toRiley on that as well, because
now you really pushed her into acorner and she's in a Simone
has put herself in an incrediblyuncomfortable spot now, because
now the left, or you know, whowere applauding her for going
(36:22):
after Riley Gaines, are now, youknow, throwing daggers at her.
They are livid that sheapologized, and you know I mean
they're saying I took a scrollthrough the the uh X comments
there and they are vicious,which we know.
We know this is what theyvicious.
(36:43):
Yeah, they are going at herhard.
They are.
That is unacceptable.
You know their middle ground isnot allowed.
You cannot ever, you know, cometo a place of agree to disagree
.
Not, not for the extreme left.
They will never accept that.
They'll never accept civilityand respect and all of those
things.
They want blood, they wanttears, they want doxing, respect
and all of those things.
They want blood, they wanttears, they want doxing, they
(37:07):
want canceling, they want all ofthe things.
And so now the right is viewingSimone Biles, as you know, just
basically a hypocrite and afool, essentially, and not
somebody to look to for anythingwhatsoever.
And now the left also can'tstand her at the moment.
(37:27):
So I would say, to sum it up, Iwould say it really sucks to be
her right now and her smartestbet is probably just to lay very
low for a little bit.
Let it die down, let somebodyelse make a fool of themselves
and take the heat off of her,and she won't have to wait long.
I mean, this happens on a dailybasis, right?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, and, and let's be honest, people truthfully
only carry about care aboutgymnastics every four years.
So as long as she keeps hermouth shut for a while, nobody's
going to think about her, untilthe next Olympics rolls around
and they go hey, is is.
How old is Simone Biles?
Is she competing again?
Cause you know she keeps doingthat.
Every once in a while she quitsand then she comes back.
(38:09):
But yeah, if she shuts up now,it'll be three years before
anybody even thinks about heragain.
So, yeah, the whole thing'scrazy and I applaud Riley Gaines
because she has stayed in this.
She, she's paired herself toCharlie Kirk.
For those that don't know, youknow she, she is on the turning
(38:33):
point, you know world tour withwith him and, and you know, good
for her and she's she's doing agreat job of fighting for
women's sports as a whole.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
So yeah, that was a wonderful speaker, she's.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I really enjoy watching her together yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Extremely well, yes, perfect, pairing her with
Charlie Kirk doing that thereand I've seen them both, I've
seen those on the campuses andeverything.
And again, she's so composed,she's so knowledgeable, she's on
point.
Again, the way she handled thiswith Simone yeah, she
definitely did fight some firewith some fire, but I, you know,
(39:16):
I feel like she did it in areally classy way, really on
point, calling her out, callingout the things that she said and
the hypocrisy of it and, youknow, not letting her get away
with it and not being um,ruffled by it at all.
You know, she just kind of hadthat wow, really, uh, mentality
about it all, didn't she?
(39:37):
Just great job.
I think she's a great example,a great role model for all of
that.
And, uh, simone Biles man, Idon't know what you're thinking
and people made some, really,you know, a really great point
on there.
Well, simone never had tocompete against a biological
male in her sport and if she did, she probably wouldn't have
those gold medals and sheprobably wouldn't be saying what
(39:59):
she's saying now.
So, you know, real easy to talkfrom that glass house of yours.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, she got hit hard.
And USA Gymnastics just pulleddown their entire transgender
athlete policy from theirwebsite.
I don't think it's been saidout loud whether it's being
removed completely or it's justbeing revamped, but you know,
(40:26):
interesting timing, as soon asthis started, they jumped on
their website and it got washedaway, got brushed off, so their
transgender policy disappeared.
It hasn't been reestablished orreposted, but there is word out
there that they arereconsidering their entire
policy when it comes totransgender athletes.
So we'll see what happens outof that.
(40:47):
But again, honestly, threeyears, then somebody will care,
but until then, outside of theOlympics, nobody really, no,
truthfully, nobody really paysattention.
So you know, it's one luckything for Simone Miles, but in
the meantime we've got plenty ofthings to distract us besides
that.
Oh yes, oh plenty, plenty ofthings nonstop things to
distract us.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Besides that, oh yes, oh plenty, plenty of things,
non-stop things to distract us,and I think that is bringing us
to our our biggest topic of theevening.
Right, let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it, mygoodness, I mean such deja vu,
isn't it clay?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
it's like yeah it's such deja vu it's their vote to
remember if we're old enough toremember rodney king.
Yeah right, uh, 1992, um, youknow which was uh, for you know
you and I are of the right agegroup.
Where that was?
We were in our really key, likeyou know, late teens, early
(41:44):
twenties window kind of thing,and and it was, uh, that was
impactful on us because it wastelevised, um, you know, and,
and you can hearken it back tothe race riots in the late
sixties and and some otherthings.
But, um, you know, la was amess, la was on fire, you know,
I, I still remember the Koreangrocers who have come up in the
(42:06):
last few days, by the way, youknow, on the rooftops of their
grocery stores, you know, withrifles defending their
businesses, and and now we'vegot a very similar situation.
You could call it similar to youknow, those riots what was that
?
92?
And similar to George Floydjust a few years ago.
(42:30):
Um, but this is, this isdifferent, uh, because it's a
different crowd.
It's a different crowd ofpeople.
You know, truthfully, in thelast two it's been a lot of, uh,
uh, african-americans, uh, alot of, you know, blacks across
the.
You know, um, but and and inthe George Floyd, you know,
(42:50):
whatever it was a couple ofyears ago, there was a lot of
suburban white housewife, youknow, kind of people, uh,
involved with that one.
This is densely, uh, hispanic,latino, mexican predominantly,
but also a lot of, you know,white, liberal types joining in.
So it's a different.
It's got a different feel to it, although it looks very similar
(43:12):
.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And and you know this one, ofcourse, the irony of this one
that we're all watching in realtime is the you know the waving
of specifically Mexican flags.
You know the waving ofspecifically Mexican flags.
You know of people who aredon't want to be deported back
to Mexico, but they're wavingMexican flags and saying F the
(43:37):
USA, and so you know it's one ofthose.
Make it, make sense.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Right and you can't.
There is no making sense ofthis because this is, uh, or
orchestrated, this is instigated, this is encouraged, this is
allowed by the um, the rulingclass of California, and um, you
know, you have people likeMaxine waters saying idiotic
(44:05):
thing I like when is this womangoing to just go away?
But take a listen, nobody wasshot, nobody was killed.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Get it in your head and so, when martial law is
called, what are you going tosay?
I missed the point.
Don't miss the point.
You all Don't think thatsomehow, because they called out
the National Guard, there wasviolence.
There was no violence.
I was on the street, I know,and I went from downtown
detention back out into thecommunity talking to people what
(44:34):
happened in Paramount, whathappened in Compton, what
happened in Inglewood?
So first of all, get itstraight and don't just rely on
what you're being told or thefew incidents that the few
incidents, the few minorincidents.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
You know, they're no big deal.
And let's, let's not talk aboutthe pallets of cinder blocks
being dropped off, and let's nottalk about the looting and
rioting that's going on.
And let's not talk about theyou know, bricks and everything
being thrown at police cars, andlet's not talk about the
(45:16):
burning down of everything insight.
Let's, let's not talk about anyof those things.
Let's, let's.
You know, not, it's nothappening.
It's not happening.
We're just making it up.
Don't believe your own eyes,believe what Maxine waters tells
you, because she is the one whoknows what's going on, not us,
(45:36):
not the people on the groundtaking this video footage.
None of those people, right?
I mean oops, sorry, um, youknow, don't't.
Don't pay attention to any ofthat.
You're just making it up, clayand it's, and she's not alone.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Um, you know that we talked about the media.
It's hard to believe the media,and the media is chiming in.
We're back to the mostlypeaceful protests, like you know
, during george floyd.
Um, you know we've got aoc.
You know there was a there.
Um, you know we've got AOC.
You know there was a.
There was another dumb one todayby her.
I think it was today, itmight've been yesterday, but it
was, like you know, it wasdeemed as like a few kids
(46:14):
throwing rocks.
Um, yeah, that's yeah.
So you've got that.
But then you've got, you know,the truthfully responsible
adults, um, who are wellsupposed to be responsible
adults.
You've got Gavin Newsom, who'sthe governor, and you've got,
you know, mayor Karen Bass, whois the mayor of LA.
You know, and those two.
(46:35):
So, in a longer term policydecision issue, now, we can go
back decades, but let's justtalk in the in the most recent
terms.
You know, newsom is responsiblefor sanctuary city policy, he's
, he's, you can go back to covidand figure out how much of a
jackass he is, but but he isresponsible for these types of
(47:00):
policies within the state ofCalifornia, right, this happens
to be mostly in Los Angelesright now, which means it lands
on Karen Bass's desk becauseshe's the mayor and they're both
not just denying this, they'readvocating for these things to
happen and they're allowing,they're sympathetic, right to
(47:22):
the violent activities, even tothe point of, you know, gavin
Newsom submitted a lawsuitagainst President Trump for
activating the National Guard,and we can talk about that more,
but you know, they tried to putan injunction in against you
know, bringing the NationalGuard in to stop this and
(47:44):
protecting federal lawenforcement, because that's
really what the genesis of thisis that federal law enforcement
ice was in Los Angeles, losAngeles County, the greater area
, and they were conducting, youknow, arrest operations, raids
and whatnot, and people gotupset and they surrounded and
attacked an ice detentionfacility and then they started
(48:05):
attacking convoys and then theystarted attacking police cars
and then, you know, and it justgrew and grew and grew beyond
the scope and capacity of the LApolice and the LA County
Sheriff's Department.
So, you know, and Newsom satthere on his thumb and he didn't
do anything and Karen Bassadvocated for all this.
And you know it was the summerof love.
(48:25):
They're all, they're justexpressing their anger.
And you know, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, and we're siding
with the immigrants.
Ok, fine, except for the factthat it's not peaceful.
There's nothing peaceful aboutthis at all.
Even from the very beginning,there was nothing peaceful about
this from from Jump Street.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yes, absolutely, and you know, violence is always the
go-to with them.
So, and it was caught in realtime, and the simple fact of the
matter that everyone should be,of course, paying attention to
is the fact that the governorand the mayor of that state
refused to protect the lawkeepers.
(49:06):
That's a big deal.
That's a problem, because ifthe law keepers decide, well,
we're just going to let you,we're just going to let you go,
just do whatever you want, thatcall would come a lot sooner
than that.
But you know what?
I take that back.
Actually, I take it back.
Clearly, the call wouldn't havecome.
They would rather theircitizens, their people, uh, lose
(49:29):
their livelihoods, lose their,their homes, lose their lives,
potentially.
Um all because they're justmostly peaceful protests and
they just need to expressthemselves.
You know that that is basicallythem saying we, we want this,
we want absolute anarchy anddestruction and chaos and all of
(49:51):
these things to happen, becausethere's no other way to look at
it.
You know they're allowing it.
They're saying this is okay, wesee the video footage.
It's not AI, guys, it's real.
And to call it isolatedincidents and all of these
things.
And to call it isolatedincidents and all of these
things Again.
The term of the decade probablyfor these people is gaslighters.
(50:13):
They are such gaslighters butyou can't do it anymore.
There are too many independentjournalists, people who are out
there with their phones andtheir cameras and they're
recording it and they'reuploading it and they're sharing
it and we're all seeing it, andthe people that are there are
living it.
So I don't know who they thinkthey're gaslighting.
(50:33):
You know, at this point, I meanthere there's definitely people
that are are buying whatthey're selling, but it's just
crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
I've seen some shocking opinions on some of
this.
You know, very early on, whenpresident Trump on, when
President Trump said he wasgoing to activate the National
Guard, I saw people saying, well, I can't believe.
I thought the GOP was forstates' rights and the state
should be allowed to handle this.
Well, here's the problem isthat's federal law enforcement
(51:01):
that's under attack and you'vegot a governor who's not doing
anything about it.
So the president has aresponsibility to take care of
that, right?
Oh, by the way, it didn't takea genius to figure out that this
was going to escalate the waythat it did.
And the theory that bringing inthe National Guard has
escalated this.
The National Guard was, youknow, two or three days.
(51:21):
This had been going on for twoor three days before the
National Guard even showed up.
So that doesn't hold watereither.
And then you know the Marineshave been.
If you've ever been, 29 palms.
29 palms is about two hours orso from LA, in the middle of the
frigging desert, and it is, andI was stationed at an army base
(51:42):
that was not far from there, um, and it's two of the most
miserable places on the planet,um, to be stationed in the
military.
And so you know they, theyalerted two, seven Marines,
second battalion, seven Marines,and and have moved them to LA,
but they have not been employedyet.
Understand that they are there,um, and but they, they have not
(52:04):
been put into play yet.
Uh, because people, coolerheads are prevailing and they're
saying, okay, but they, theyhave not been put into play yet.
Uh, because people cooler headsare prevailing and they're
saying, okay, this has thepotential to escalate.
Because, let me tell yousomething, when they unleashed
those Marines, um, it's going toget very interesting very, very
quickly.
Now, everybody LA, uh, police,la sheriff is all using
non-lethal.
No one in the middle of all ofthis, which is still baffling to
(52:26):
me, has been shot with a realbullet.
Nobody on either side Amazing.
Right, um, there have been a fewreporters who have caught some
um some, uh, non-lethal rubberbullets, some sandbag rounds.
There's a lot of footage ofthat.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Yeah, that, uh, what I saw was the australian
reporter she got pegged right inthe leg, I think.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, I saw another one, uh, a reporter got, took a
couple of rounds right to thechest, um, and yeah, so, um, so,
you know this thing is not, uh,it's escalated, but I I would
tell you it was going toescalate anyway.
Um, I would tell you thatbringing in the guard, uh, in
the timing that they did, wasappropriate.
(53:11):
I think holding back theMarines is the right.
You know kind of uh, you knowscheme of maneuver at this point
, but you know there've beensome indicators in the midst of
all of this.
Uh, the, the Walmart heiressright, has posted some things
where, um, she has basicallyouted herself as being
responsible for funding part ofthis.
(53:32):
There is money.
You've seen, I'm sure, thepickup truck that pulled up and
a bunch of riot shields wereoffloaded and handed to the
crowd.
You showed the bricks and thecinder blocks all being
pre-positioned, right.
You know one that all takesmoney, right, and it all smells
(53:53):
like Soros, and then it alltakes coordination right.
So this is not haphazard, thisis not.
You know, we thought of it twohours ago, kind of things.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, this wasn't a grassroots reaction.
This was an orchestrated,planned everything.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Right and it's blowing into right.
It's already started thisSaturday, which is supposed to
be the demonstrations across thecountry on no King's Day, which
is what they're calling it.
Right, all of these?
Um you know protests andparades, but it's already.
It's already escalating andstarting in the major cities.
(54:33):
Right, it's already reported inChicago, it's already reported
in New York where the riotsstarted last night.
The demonstration started lastnight.
They weren't even supposed tostart until Saturday, but in
reaction to what's going on inLA, the rest of the country is
amping up.
So we've got George Floyd kindof stuff going all over again
(54:55):
and it's going to be a wild,wild weekend across the United
States.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it really is.
And you know, this is all aboutoptics for them.
They want this.
They don't care about any ofthe people, they don't care
about the cause, they don't careabout anybody.
I'm talking about, of course,the people who are, who are
funding all of this, just likethey did all of the other ones.
Trump's fault, you know.
(55:27):
Look what happened on his watch.
He couldn't even control hiscountry.
You know, everything fell aparton his watch.
And you know this.
This is covid 2.0, basically,well, we can't.
We can't get them to buy intoanother manufactured virus, so
we're just going to burneverything we're just going to.
(55:48):
We're just going to causeabsolute chaos and destruction
and all of that, and you knowyou're dealing with a different
Trump now.
You know, perfect example,national Guard Marines they're
all on the ready.
This should be and I believe itwill be dealt with with swift
action and I hope that's whathe's going to do.
I hope there's no hesitation onit.
Um, because you can't.
(56:08):
You can't allow this.
It cannot be allowed.
Uh, you have to protect the, theinnocent citizens in these
cities who are, you know, therewas that one video.
The heart just infuriated andand broke my heart.
It made me so angry.
It was a young black woman.
She gets out of her car andshe's trying to reason with
(56:30):
these jackasses that areblocking the road and not
letting people pass through andshe's trying to tell them I need
to get to work.
You know, my son, all thoseLike, oh, boo-hoo, you have to
go to work.
Yeah, just, I've said it to youbefore, clay, I pray, I pray, I
(56:58):
pray that I never and theperson in my vehicle being
blocked by these people.
It won't end well and I to facethat, but that poor woman and
everyone in those situationsthey're just trying to live, and
these idiots are doing this.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, that actually happened in Chicago last night,
very first night of riots inChicago, and there was a car
that you know.
The police were trying to wavethe car down, they were trying
to direct it and I don't knowwho was driving it because it
never stopped, but they tried tokeep it going in one direction
and it was like Nope, I got togo that way.
I don't care if there's peoplethere or not, and they made a
left hand, turn right into thecrowd, bumped a few people,
(57:35):
knocked them over, kept right ondriving.
Uh and, and you know, I think Iknow that they um, in
California, they shut down.
I don't know if it was theone-on-one or the one 10, but
they, they shut down.
I think it was a one-on-one.
They shut down for about a halfan hour One of them, the
highways through the city.
And again, that's who they'reimpacting.
They're impacting the regularpeople that live in Los Angeles,
(57:57):
trying to go to and from work,and and that's who gets affected
.
I, I'll be honest with you, Istruggled with this, I am, I am
very much in the mindset, orhave been, to just let it burn,
but it's those people thatsuffer the most.
Right, you know, it would bevery nice if we could
(58:20):
collectively back off, you know,and just tell Newsom and Bass
hey, this is your problem.
And then, you know, tell borderpatrol, hey, move into Nevada,
move into, you know, arizona,don't let anybody in or out.
You know that kind of thing.
And just make Los AngelesSouthern California and Island.
But we can't do that.
I mean, I wish we could, but wecan't.
(58:43):
You know, I think the bestthing any governor could do
right now is encourage, evenoffer incentives If you're in a
state that's got the room andmaybe you've got some
opportunities for employment,maybe an incentive program to
move businesses and people tomove to uh to your state, um,
(59:08):
you know that are honestlylooking for for opportunities,
but again, that's not going towork either.
So, um, you know this, thisthing is going to run through
the weekend, mostly because ofthis no Kings protest on
Saturday.
Uh, and I, I expect, truthfully, I expect the LA stuff to peak,
probably tomorrow night andthen taper off.
(59:29):
But at the same time as ittapers off, you're going to see
it go up, uh, in the other majorcities and it's just going to
be a mess.
I really, really hope thatSaturday, um, in Washington DC,
that there is not an issue.
Uh, and for those of you thataren't aware, saturday is the
(59:49):
big 250th Army Birthday Parade,the military parade through
downtown Washington DC.
And listen, folks, I don't likeit.
I think it's bad optics.
I think there's a lot of otherthings we should be spending
money on.
Like you know, there's problemswith barracks, maintenance and
living conditions for soldiersand defense and all this other
(01:00:11):
stuff.
I think that the you know, theparade in DC is probably a bad
call, but that's my personalopinion.
What I really don't want is forone of these protests, these
violent protests, to spill overinto that event in Washington DC
on the same day.
That would be a horrible,horrible thing for the country,
(01:00:33):
not just the people directlyinvolved.
It will look very bad.
So let's all keep our fingerscrossed and hopefully this thing
de-escalates and doesn't getout of hand.
Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely it's.
You know it's once again scarytimes and and I hope you know,
nobody misses the irony thatit's always in the summer.
It's always how polite of themto you know, wait till the
summertime, when the sun isshining and it's beautiful out,
and, you know, never happens inthe wintertime, does it?
It happens, I mean I feel likeit has no no, no joke.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Listen, we used to talk about this Afghanistan.
It was a big thing.
We called it the fightingseason.
Like the wintertime, everything, yeah, no joke.
Like the altitude and theharshness of the winters in most
places.
So, like around late Octoberand into November, you would
start to see enemy activity godown and then, like in late
February and, and you know, inearly March it would start
(01:01:28):
coming back up again, and thatwas the fighting season.
You're right, it has everythingto do with the weather.
Um, and it's the same thinghere.
Like nobody likes to protestwhen it's sleeting outside, nope
.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Nope, they don't.
They're like they go home.
They're like, oh, maybe nexttime, sorry, I can't make it for
this one.
Yeah, cause you, you know, like, oh, maybe next time, sorry, I
can't make it for this one.
Yeah, cause you, you knowyou're dealing with a percentage
of the people that are doingthis are paid to be doing these.
These are paid actors, you know, not actors, but you know what
I mean.
Uh, paid to do these things andto and to cause this kind of
(01:02:00):
chaos.
Then you have, you know, ofcourse, the, the legitimate ones
, your illegal aliens protesting, and then you have your, you
know, virtue signaling whiteliberals.
You know, you have, you gatherthis crazy mosh of people, and
the one core thing that theyhave in common is that they're
(01:02:21):
unhinged, you know, and they'reeasy to manipulate and they're
easy to use for these purposes.
So, you know, it just creates aperfect horrible storm.
And, of course, that's wherewe're at.
And, you know, I pray for ourlaw enforcement across the
country as they gear up and toprepare for this and to deal
(01:02:44):
with these incidents.
You, you know just, uh, godbless them and God keep them,
and and their families, uh, whoare, you know, rightfully, very
concerned right now and, uh,really dreading this coming
weekend.
So, um, if you, if you know one, you love one.
Um, think some good thoughts,for if you're not a praying kind
(01:03:04):
, you know, think some goodthoughts for them and let them
know that you're thinking ofthem.
But we did it, clay.
We did all of the topics.
We were good man.
It's like we're professionalsor something.
We've been doing this foralmost two years now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, yeah, august is .
You know, let us, let us knowif you kind of you know what you
think of this kind of big topic.
On the back half, again, alittle change of format, you
know, just let us know if it's,if you like it better this way
or if you like it the other way.
And you know, we alwaysappreciate the feedback and the
comments from everybody.
(01:03:44):
Appreciate the feedback and thecomments from everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Absolutely, I'll say my piece, which is I hope you
guys have a great rest of yourweek, a very safe, happy, fun,
healthy weekend.
Happy Father's Day to you, Clay, and all the dads out there.
And yeah, that's kind of it forme.
You go ahead and sign them off,sign them out, check them out,
whatever I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
No, Elsa said it Everybody be safe this weekend.
There is a lot of crazinessgoing on and so, you know, be
safe.
I do plan on, you know,enjoying my father's day.
I'm going to spend it with kidsand my dad and my family and
we're going to do what Novaks doand we're going to go do the
American thing and go shoot guns.
But, you know, be safe thisweekend, and you know, if, if
(01:04:34):
nothing else, remember in theback of your head if you get in
a tight spot, keep moving, keepshooting.
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Kirk collection and Refuge Medical.
And now it's time for the show.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
So well, hey, there slight little change to the
intro, just a little.
You know I'm that person thathas to move furniture around
like every couple of months,just because.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
How are?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
you, I'm good.
Don't let anything stagnate.
That's good.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Right, you can't get toocomfortable in life.
I like it.
It's good.
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm good.
I'm good.
I already warned you.
I warned Clay guys before westarted recording on Wednesday.
Look at me bringing that rightin.
I'm discombobulated.
So y'all are going to have tobear with me today.
I don't know what my problem is.
I have no excuses.
Just bear with me.
I'm just.
I'm like out of sorts.
You ever have a day like that.
I don't know, is it supposed tobe like a full moon or
(01:12):
something tonight?
I don't know, I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't follow, nor do I believe in any of that
stuff, so I, I, I don't, youknow the full moon thing and all
that, but regardless, we dohave a.
You know, we're going to dosomething a little bit different
, format wise, with the show.
Usually we start out with our,our big topic, the one that we
spend the most time on.
We're going to flip the show alittle bit, we're going to knock
out maybe four or five smallerones and then, and then we're
(01:39):
going to spend probably the backhalf of the show talking about
the big one.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And we'll get started right after this Tonight on the
Elsa Kurt show with Clay Novak.
From Greta's cosplay crusade tobio lab breaches, from broken
trust in science to transconfusion in sports and, yes,
riots in the streets thesearen't random headlines.
They're coordinated symptoms ofa culture that's rejected truth
and replaced it with feelings.
We're not here to coddle it.
We're here to call it out withbold faith real truth and
absolutely no apologies.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And now it's time for the show.
Oh, such an intense littleintro there, but we're not
starting off.
That's right.
I kind of like it too.
It's kind of fun.
We are not starting off intense, we're starting off with kind
(02:34):
of like a head shake and achuckle.
Here, talking about Greta'sgreat adventures, or not so
great adventures, I have so manymixed feelings about this girl.
You know, on one hand sheinfuriates me and you know I
just kind of want to mom, smackher upside the side of her head.
And.
And there's the other side.
That can't help but feelingthis sympathy towards her
because I think as a child shewas brainwashed and manipulated
(02:58):
and just completely brainwashedby the people who are supposed
to be having her best interestsat hearts and clearly just have
used her as as a tool, as aweapon, basically, and, uh, and
and.
Here we are, and um, I'm I feellike everybody does know what
I'm talking about Um, but we'retalking about, uh, greta's uh
(03:18):
and her merry band ofinfluencers.
Um, brilliant idea to take theirlittle flotilla, their
influencer flotilla or selfieflotilla, right over to Gaza to
bring them some aid because theycare so much.
And, by the way, here they are,you know, just on their very
(03:45):
serious, deep, profound mission,because they're such
humanitarians, having a greatold time taking their little
videos and their selfies and alltheir fun things.
It's just, I didn't bother withthe sound because I don't even
want to hear them, I just, Ijust want you to see what their
adventure, you know?
Basically, look like.
I mean, these kids look likethey're just going on a little
(04:06):
sightseeing tour, you know, thisis how you know of their
complete lack.
There she is, there's Greta.
Um, their whole lack ofanything, anything whatsoever.
Clay, what are your?
What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
yeah, so so it was a crew of 12 um and they had a, a
ship.
I can't remember the name of it.
I'll be honest with you.
I was shocked to find out.
Greta was 22 years old.
I I guess she's been thatpresent in the news cycle for
long enough that I still thoughtshe was a kid.
She still looks like a teenager.
(04:47):
She still looks like a child.
I truly believe that there'ssomething maybe developmentally
wrong with her.
Do we still like Asperger's?
I don't know if that's still acommon use term or not, but I
would say she's in that probablyhigh functioning autistic
(05:08):
category.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
That was always the, the phrase or the term that was
used along with her for as longas she's been in the public eye
and that was kind of like theirbig like I hate to use it, but
how dare you, moment you can'tmake fun of her, she, she has.
And, yes, then they did call itAsperger's.
I don't think they call itAsperger's anymore, I think they
(05:32):
just label it as being on thespectrum.
Um, but that was like their bigtalking point, like you cannot
make fun of this girl, thischild, um, because she has an
issue here, a disability, and um, you know, now, if you say
you're just being mean, I don'tknow, but I truly do think there
is something there.
(05:52):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I've been called mean before, so I'm not really
worried about it.
But you know, so her plus 11 ona single ship with aid,
humanitarian aid to Gaza, andyou know cross, you know a
portion of the Mediterranean.
They got picked up by theIsraeli Navy, got boarded, got
(06:14):
detained.
You know the amount of aid.
It turns out that was on theirlittle boat was less than a
single truckload, and on a dailybasis.
You're talking like 120 trucksfull of aid going to Gaza every
day.
So, while I think I don't thinktheir intentions were good, I
don't think they were altruistic, I think, truthfully, this was
(06:36):
a prop job.
This was a hundred percentabout the selfie, about the
press and all of that.
So I got boarded, they gotdetained.
Uh, there was a rumor that theywere forced to sit and watch
live footage um, and not Israelifootage, but captured footage
or footage used by Hamas.
Uh, over seventh of theatrocities they were committing.
(06:59):
Um, I don't know if that's trueor not, but that that was the
rumor, um, if, if it's true, Ithink that's probably one of the
best punishments that thatcould ever be levied on them.
Then her, along with three ofthe 12, signed deportation
orders or allowed themselves tobe deported.
(07:20):
She's claiming that, or someoneadvised her that she can do
much better uh, outside ofisrael have more effects.
So therefore, she signed thedeportation order.
Funny enough, put her, uheco-loving little butt, on an
aeroplane, uh, and flew her backto europe yeah but the other,
(07:41):
yeah, the other eight whichsomewhere in this 12 person, um,
you know, contingent is a, uh,eu parliament member, so there's
a, an elected or an appointedofficial governmental official,
you know, in this crew, um, butthey sent eight are still
sitting in israel right now, uh,waiting for whatever happens to
(08:03):
them next.
But this was all.
It was all a ruse, it was allgarbage.
I think truthfully.
As much as well, I think thatyou know, we would have loved to
have just seen the Israeli Navywave at them as they went by
and let them dock in Gaza andjust see what happened.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Let them do it.
Yes, they really.
You know there's a, there is.
I agree.
There is a huge part of me thatsays should have just let them
go.
Let them go and see how great itis there, how well received
they are, you know, with theirselfies.
Go ahead, take your selfieswith the, with these people, see
, see how well that all turnsout for you.
But yeah, you're exactly right,it was a 59 foot boat.
(08:41):
It had less than a singletruckload of supplies like less
than a single truckload.
And just you know, just as theside note, and I don't know how
many people realize this, butthe Trump administration backed
Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,successfully delivered more than
eight million meals to Gazanssince its operation began less
(09:05):
than a month ago, and that'saccording to the organization.
So you know, comparing Greta'sefforts to that.
And then again, look at thischild's joy at being offered a
snack by the big bad Israelis,right by the big mean bad people
.
She didn't seem so mad aboutgetting that little snacky snack
(09:28):
from them.
Huh, oh, and the yes.
So I did hear the same thing youdid about them being, you know,
forced to watch that footage.
And I also heard, incontinuation of that, that they
allegedly supposedly all turntheir backs and refuse to watch.
(09:49):
And if that is true at all, ifthere is truth to that, they are
the biggest cowards, pieces ofgarbage on the planet.
You absolute garbage, cowardsyou.
If that?
If that's the case but itwouldn't surprise me if that's
the case so well, I'll look intoit more.
I'll.
I'll try and find out ifthere's any real confirmation of
(10:11):
it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Do not.
Do not waste your time withthis.
We should all stop wasting ourtime with Greta.
All of us Like this shouldn'thave been reported.
This shouldn't have been in thenews cycle.
No one should care.
She's a 22 yearyear-old,truthfully mal-raised probably,
(10:33):
and emotionally unstable younglady that needs psychiatric help
and we should stop perpetuatingher problem as humanity Like we
should just get that young girlsome help and move on.
We've got to stop putting anyattention on her and getting her
out from in front of a camera.
It's terrible.
So, please, Elsa, don't wasteany more time on this.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You know what?
I agree with you.
You're absolutely right.
If you guys want to find out,go find out.
I'm washing my hands of this.
Yeah, yeah, and you know, andit's true, and you know, as a
society, honestly, and I and I'mthrowing myself in it, I've,
you know, reported on this umalready once or twice on on my
(11:10):
page and all of that stuff andum, yes, it is not only is it
giving the attention thatthey're seeking, um, and and,
just you know, platforming themwith their absurdities, it's
also when you add that layer ofsomebody who is not mentally fit
(11:31):
.
That's like the only way I'mthinking of putting it.
I'm sure there's other ways Icould have phrased that.
That's the way I'm phrasing it.
You know, it is time to kind oflike move away from it and not
keep feeding into the absurdity.
Really.
So, yes, that's it, that's allwe're talking about with that
girl.
We're going to move on to one.
(11:52):
That makes my stomach do asomersault.
I just I barely can evendiscuss this just because of
that one word right there.
I, I can't do it, but I can, Ican, I, I can't.
I'm professional.
Clay, I got this.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, the good news is the worms weren't actually on
the plane, so that's the goodnews, but so there's a trend
coming out of the University ofMichigan which is very, very
scary.
The one that we're talkingabout initially is her name.
Is I'm going to, I'm going toto try this, and this is the
only one I'm going to try,because there's two other names
that I'm definitely not going totry.
(12:28):
I think this is uh, uh,changshuan Han.
I think is her name.
Um and uh so she is a.
She is a PhD student at uh, theuniversity in Wuhan.
Go figure, um and and over thecourse of 2024, and I think into
(12:51):
2025, she sent four packages toa colleague at the University
of Michigan, where they werereceived, and those are the
worms that we're talking about.
Right, it's a roundworm whichhas the potential to have impact
on all kinds of things US cropsand others.
So she was picked up at theDetroit Metro Airport.
(13:12):
When she landed, she lied tocustoms, then she lied to the
feds and she lied, and she liedand she lied.
So the intent she smuggledthese worms through the mailing
system.
She deleted, cleared her phone,her electronic device three
weeks before she came to theStates, lied upon arrival, and
(13:35):
then, once she was arrested, youknow, she lied some more and
some more, and finally it allcame out.
My question, though, is who?
I applause to him, but who?
Who either turned her in fromthe University of Michigan, or
is this a result of the othertwo Chinese nationals who got
busted in connection with theUniversity of Michigan just a
(13:59):
week and a half ago?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, no matter what,
obviously, university ofMichigan, you know, needs to be
looked at under a magnifyingglass right now.
So you know, because theobvious question what's going on
here?
Why is this happeningspecifically here?
Why is this being allowed tohappen?
And you know, the scary thoughtis, of course, how much has
(14:22):
gone undetected.
You know how many things havehave slipped through that we are
not aware of right now.
And we've got these, you know,biohazards, you know, just
lurking around.
So, yeah, you know, I feel likeit's obvious to say that these
people need to be.
(14:43):
If they're foreign nationals,right there're.
I mean, they're not from this,she's not from this country,
correct?
She's here on what?
Student visas and all of thatstuff.
Okay, so that needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think she was here on some no, I don't know, I
don't maybe a work visa of somekind or something like that, but
hers was supposed to be not shewas not on a student visa.
She's working PhD work, you know, at the Wuhan university.
I think hers might've been a,even a, a tourist visa.
I don't think I've ever seen itclarified, but it didn't.
(15:16):
You know, I think part of thereason that she shipped that
stuff is because she didn't wantany of that detected.
But you know the incidentbefore this, very similarly
related.
So you've got a uh, a femaleagain I'm not going to try and
pronounce these names.
So you've got a female uhworking at the university of
Michigan, chinese national rightUm, who coordinated with her
(15:41):
boyfriend who works in a lab inChina to send over or smuggle a
fungus that definitely affectscrops, right, can be used as a
bioterror weapon, and so he gotnabbed at the.
You know, he got nabbed, shegot nabbed, and then I.
I just wonder if that is whatopened up.
(16:04):
You know, or gave enoughinformation to the feds to pick
up this first one.
But yeah, I mean University ofMichigan under a magnifying
glass or a microscope, no punintended, is really like there's
something very, very scarygoing on out of that place that
(16:29):
place.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yes, yeah, and you couple that with the you know
the um, the knowledge that thefact that China has bought up
like an absurd amount offarmland in this country, you
know.
So, listen, I don't know whoseresponsibility it is to stop
this, but they better get thehell on it.
Does that fall under my guythere, RFK Jr, Does that fall
(16:49):
under him?
I mean, it's kind of like amixed thing.
It's like defense issue too,because this is potential
bioterrorism.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I would say this is cross cabinet.
You've got somecross-departmental coordination
that's going to happen.
You know Health and HumanServices, for sure.
Department of Agriculture, forsure You've got.
You know Department of HomelandSecurity, you've got DOD.
Like I think everybody plays alittle part.
You know a part in this.
(17:20):
Either it's lending expertiseor you know law enforcement
implications, defense, terrorimplications.
Yeah, this has a lot oftentacles to it, but you're
(17:40):
right, several members ofCongress are trying to rectify
in ways of either limiting,stopping any further purchases
or even eminent domain andtaking it back, which would be
an interesting move politically.
But yeah, this is scary stuff.
You know this is.
This is pretty scary that it'sit's on the radar, that it's
(18:02):
this blatant, but also that it'stied to a very prominent and
well-known university in theUnited States.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yes, yeah, I would imagine, and I'm sure it's
already being done, but I'm surethe Trump administration is
looking at their funding whatkind of government, anything
that they're getting right and,you know, hopefully we're going
to see some revocation of thatthe whole thing is is just crazy
(18:31):
to me and and I always have to,like, stop myself a little bit,
and and I think this is verycommon for a lot of us Like we
hear about these things, I wantto see something done
immediately.
You know, like, right now, Iwant to see major action, and
the truth of the matter is isthat there's so much happening
government wise, behind thescenes, and they're, you know, I
(18:53):
do fully believe that they areworking on this, um, you know,
as we speak, um, but, yeah, it's, it's really frightening.
So, yeah, really frightening,so yeah, yep, well, I think that
um I think that actually goesright into nicely with.
(19:13):
uh, since I already brought themup, we're gonna we're gonna
move right into this guy andguys.
We're kind of going throughthese a little bit quicker only
because our last topic is, youknow, a bigger one.
It's such a big topic, so we're, you know, moving a little bit
quickly here for them.
But this is one of the things,this goes, this goes.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Go ahead.
Don't let the media fool you onthis.
So RFK Jr fired the entireVaccine Advisory Council, which
I think was in the neighborhoodof 12 to 14 people I don't know
if that number is right, but Ithink I read that somewhere but
he took them all and he firedthem, and this is being
portrayed as he's an anti-vaxxer, that these are experts in
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vaccines, that somehow they havea goodness in their heart,
altruistic role.
These folks on this vaccineadvisory council are either
lobbyists or owned by lobbyistsor owned by big pharma.
These are the people who areinside of Health and Human
(20:18):
Services who are advocating forspecific vaccines for specific
reasons.
And if you ever look at the, Iknow you you spoke about this, I
think, a while ago where thenumber of vaccines has escalated
, like it's increasedexponentially in the last 25
years.
This, this advisory council, isthe reason why, and that's why
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he got rid of them.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes, yeah, absolutely .
This is, you know, one of thosemoves that I've been waiting to
see.
I'm so glad to see it happening.
And of course, of course, theleft is, you know, screaming oh,
he's anti-science, you know, no, no, that's not the case.
And these are, by the way, thesame people that you know pushed
a vaccine and denied theexistence, the reality of
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natural immunity and all ofthose things.
So you know the motives onthese people, as you well stated
.
You know, not in our bestinterest, not in our best
interest and getting paid on ourdime.
So you're out of here.
He did the old Trump you'refired routine.
I hope he actually did.
(21:28):
I would love if he just walkedinto a big like board meeting or
whatever and just fired.
It's just a little visuals thatI like, but yeah, I mean, this
is again.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, there was an interesting quote that kind of
results.
Somebody was asking him aboutthis, about firing this
committee, about getting rid ofall of them.
Somebody was asking him aboutthis, about firing this
committee, about getting rid ofall of them, and then about I
guess HHS is going through alittle bit of a rehiring of
certain people that they'vealready let go and this he's the
first government official Ihave heard say this.
But he said as a result of Doge, right, all of the people that
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got fired as a result of Doge.
He said we knew that we weregoing to make mistakes and that
we would have to rehire about20% of the people we fired.
We knew that going in as aresult of the Doge cuts it was
not surprising to him totallyanticipated, which we've seen
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across other departments.
He is the first one.
Especially, he's the first lead.
I think that has said that outloud and I thought that was
really really interesting thatit kind of got tied in with this
firing of the vaccine advisorycommittee.
But he did say it out loud.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Interesting.
Do you think that you know,along with everything else, that
the the financial purposes ofdoing a, doing that and just the
logical reasons for doing that?
Do you think part of that alsoinvolves trying to rebuild the
public trust?
Because you know to state theobvious, public trust in, in all
(23:03):
of these governmentorganizations is, at like, a
negative zero, and I can speakfor myself personally if it's
coming from the government, Idon't trust it.
It's a flat out no, thank you.
And there's so much work aheadto be able to rebuild that trust
.
Do you even think that it'spossible?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I do, and I think that this is part of it
and I think you're starting tosee it in the media as well.
If you saw ABC I can't rememberthe guy's name, but the guy who
interviewed president Trumpfrom ABC on his hundredth day it
was the hundred day interview,a hundred days in office.
Over the weekend he made atweet on X office.
Over the weekend he made atweet on X whatever you can, x
(23:47):
post, whatever um where he hetalked about the president and
he called him.
You know he said somethingderogatory about him.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I didn't think it was really that big of a deal, but
he called him a world-classhater or something like that.
I don't know.
Oh right, stephen Miller, hewas calling yeah Right.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So then then he deleted it.
He deleted the tweet, but ofcourse the Internet is it does
what it does.
Somebody caught it, somebodyreposted it and then he got
suspended and then got fired.
Listen, we're all strugglingwithin the media to regain the
(24:24):
trust of the American public andyou know it sucks that he got
fired.
But this is what has to happenin today and this is coming from
people inside of mainstreammedia is like we can't do this
anymore.
We have to regain the trust ofAmerica and having stuff like
this happen we can't tolerate.
And I think you're to your pointwith RFK, I think it's the same
(24:47):
thing.
I think all of the doge firingwas literally cut away, all of
the stuff that we don't knowwhether we need it or not.
And if we ended up we do needit, then we'll bring back what
we need, but eventually.
But you know, we'll cut, we'llget to the core of cutting away
what we don't need.
So you know it was.
(25:08):
We talked about doing itsurgically versus kind of the
slash and burn, and I think whathe's addressing is the slash
and burn that they did and thatwas cut 80 percent and we'll
probably have to bring back 20percent anyway, but they knew
that going in.
So I think that you are goingto see that and continue to see
that in the government, butyou're also going to see it in
(25:28):
the media for the exact samereason.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah Well, I'll tell you what I wish the media luck
in doing that.
I know I can say right now andfor the very far foreseeable
future that's not going tochange for me.
They are never going to be myfirst source for information.
They're actually going to bethe counter source, you know, of
(25:56):
the all right.
Well, what is the left saying?
You know, and just to have itfor reference, just to know what
they're saying, but to um, totake them with any any sort of
authority or trustworthy sourcefor any information.
And it's only going to getworse and harder.
(26:17):
It already is that case of,obviously, with AI and
manipulated videos andmanipulated uh images and all of
those things, I mean we're inbig trouble because nobody
trusts anybody and they don'ttrust us either.
Clay, if I post something youknow on there, fake, fake news,
(26:39):
it's not even real.
And if the audio doesn't syncup like so perfectly which guys?
Sometimes that happens,especially when you're resharing
and re uploading things.
The audio and video don'talways sync perfectly.
Um, they're like it's fake,they're it's you know, it's AI,
it's like.
Oh, I mean, I can't even argue,you can't even.
(26:59):
And the amount of checks youhave to go through yourself to
make sure, like I almost sharedI, you'd be so proud of me.
I almost shared something.
It was a meme, um, and it mightbe accurate now at this point,
but it was.
It was something maybe you'veseen it supposedly that kamala
harris posted for a um, a newgraphic, and it's really it's oh
(27:23):
, the 2028 yeah yes I see yeahyes, and I ran that through.
I ran it through, ai, sorry guysand asked is did she really
post this?
Because I didn't see itanywhere.
I'm not saying that she didn't,I still don't know.
You can yell at me in thecomments if you know, um, but I
found it very hard to.
I'm like like she's not thebrightest bulb in the box, but
(27:49):
I'm not really sure she posedthat.
So you guys know it came backwith no.
By the way, it came back withat that point in time, which was
yesterday, it came back withnowhere that you know we
searched was this image on anyof her things.
So whatever, but it makes itreally difficult.
(28:09):
So I applaud I, you know, Icontinually applaud RFK Jr for
making those efforts and and notjust efforts actually following
through and doing things thathe said he was going to do, and
I hope that continues and I hopewe see the results of that soon
.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, we're going to get back, we're going to touch
more on, you know, trusting themedia in our, in our final,
because they're playing a bigrole in in that.
But you know, right now we keepyou and I've said it a number
of times that independentjournalism and, truthfully,
things going out on social mediaare telling the truth.
(28:50):
So then the mainstream mediaand sometimes people tell on
themselves Right and, and so wehad a little.
You know, you and I talkedabout this before we recorded
last week, folks, we recorded onWednesday, thursday the show
came out, but also thursdaymorning there was the spat that
broke out between presidenttrump and elon musk, right and
(29:11):
and, and it brewed for, you know, probably about four days like
at a high boil and then it kindof tapered off and then, you
know, now we've got that sort ofelon apology.
Know, he claimed that thepresident was in the Epstein
files and, and you know, uh,threatened to shut down SpaceX
and, like it, got off the railsvery, very quickly, um, but it
(29:34):
was all done and it was all donefrom from their verified
accounts, Right, so you knowwhen.
When we're watching these thingshappen, there isn't even time
for the media to react.
We're all getting at the sametime as the media, we all do our
own interpretation and we'reseeing news happen real time
(29:55):
with no filters.
Glad this one has tapered off.
I know there was a lot ofpeople who immediately went to
oh, it's a conspiracy, theyplanned it, this is on purpose,
this is so they could expose theEpstein files and blah, blah,
blah and all kinds of stuff.
I don't know how true any ofthat is.
(30:16):
I thought it was just two egoscrashing into each other in real
time, and so it is what it is.
But we had another one just inthe last 48 hours.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Back to back.
Yes, back to back craziness.
Simone Biles really stepped ina big pile of you know what.
I don't know what this girl wasthinking.
She clearly did not run thesestatements through her PR team
to get approval.
She went on attack, she wentafter Riley Gaines, basically
called her a bully and then wenton to body shame her and
(31:07):
essentially say that she lookslike a man.
So that obviously did not goover well.
And, as you said before, theinternet does what the internet
does and it found, like almostimmediately, past statements
from Simone Biles, her testimonyagainst I forget the guy's name
, maybe you'll remember his name, but, um, thank you, uh, you
(31:31):
know, for his abuses against, uh, women in in gymnastics and the
sports and everything, and thatshe testified against that.
And you know the irony, theirony, the hypocrisy of her
statements.
And it just came right back andblew up right in her face.
(31:51):
And and then now this actuallysurprised me.
Tell me if this surprised youshe actually did backpedal and
apologize.
I think it was a crappy apology, much like Elon's, which I'll
go back to that one in just aminute too.
But these crappy apologies, youknow it was long winded apology
, uh, much like Elon's, whichI'll go back to that one in just
a minute too.
But, um, these crappy apologies,you know it was long winded, it
was very PR done, right, youknow, like I'm sorry I said
(32:14):
those things.
But you know, when you add, butit's not an apology, you don't
want the minute you add, but youknow it's kind of like a
backhanded apology, right, youknow, my husband says I'm very
good at the backhanded apology,I'll say something I don't do
this anymore, guys, okay, don'tcome for me.
You know something like well,I'm sorry that you got hurt,
(32:35):
you're feeling hurt by.
You know, that's not really anapology, that's a backhanded
apology and that's kind of whatboth of them did apology and
that's kind of what both of themdid.
And Elon's apology nowhere in itwas the word I apologize or I'm
sorry.
It was.
You know, basically I made someregrettable, some regrettable
(32:56):
statements and it was kind oflike that's the end of it, you
know.
So I don't know.
So, yeah, all right, we'll see.
We'll see him for one minute.
Do you think Trump should,should have or should, accept
his apology?
He did, to the best of myknowledge, he accepted the
apology and that was kind of theend of it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't think it'll die until we see the two of them
in the same.
I think there will always be,whether real or fabricated,
there will always be tensionbetween the two of them, um, in
because Trump doesn't let stufflike this go Um and it, you know
.
So, um, we're going to have tosee them in the same place,
(33:35):
smiling and shaking hands,before anybody believes that you
know gone and forgotten, um.
So I, I think he should um, andI think he should specifically
because, um, I, I think it's inthe best interest of the United
States for the two of them toget along, um, I think it's in
the best interest of globalspace exploration for the two of
(33:57):
them to get along Um.
So I, I think, president Trump,you know the two of them need
to iron this out.
I think president Trump willprobably invite him to the white
house or tomorrow, lago, andthey'll, they'll figure it out
between the two of them, um.
But you know, this thing withsimone biles and riley gaines
started because riley gainesmade a comment, in true form, um
(34:18):
, about the minnesota softballteam that we talked about last
week.
Right, that this you know boy uhknow, pitched for them and won
them the state championship, andRiley Gaines said something
about it, because that's herplatform, I mean, literally it
is.
That was her and the LeahThomas thing.
That's what she's been livingfor the last like four years.
(34:39):
And so she said something.
And then Simone Biles saidsomething back and then, yeah,
she made a comment about youknow, you should probably pick
on somebody.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Pick on someone your own size or something.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Interestingly enough, a man.
And then Riley Gaines comesback and goes I'm a, I'm five,
five and one hundred and thirtyfive pounds and you know, and,
and really Riley Gaines, Ithought, did a very good job
throughout this, keeping hercomposure and giving Simone
Biles tons and tons of creditalong the way, the things that
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she's done, the things thatshe's accomplished until and you
brought it up the Larry Nassarcomments.
I thought Riley Gaines probablywent a little bit far dragging
that into this.
It's a super, super sensitivetopic, right, and you know it
was probably a little bit much,but relevant.
(35:30):
So you know I don't faltertotally, but it was.
You know that was what it'slike sticking your finger on a
hot burner kind of thing.
But you know you're right,simone Biles did come back, she
did apologize it was a very PRwritten apology and then Riley
Gaines turned around and saidwell, if you apologize, then why
(35:51):
don't you join me in this fightto protect women's sports?
And that's where we're at rightnow, because I don't think
Simone Biles responded to thatone.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
No, and she probably won't.
I mean that you know kudos toRiley on that as well, because
now you really pushed her into acorner and she's in a Simone
has put herself in an incrediblyuncomfortable spot now, because
now the left, or you know, whowere applauding her for going
(36:22):
after Riley Gaines, are now, youknow, throwing daggers at her.
They are livid that sheapologized, and you know I mean
they're saying I took a scrollthrough the the uh X comments
there and they are vicious,which we know.
We know this is what theyvicious.
(36:43):
Yeah, they are going at herhard.
They are.
That is unacceptable.
You know their middle ground isnot allowed.
You cannot ever, you know, cometo a place of agree to disagree
.
Not, not for the extreme left.
They will never accept that.
They'll never accept civilityand respect and all of those
things.
They want blood, they wanttears, they want doxing, respect
and all of those things.
They want blood, they wanttears, they want doxing, they
(37:07):
want canceling, they want all ofthe things.
And so now the right is viewingSimone Biles, as you know, just
basically a hypocrite and afool, essentially, and not
somebody to look to for anythingwhatsoever.
And now the left also can'tstand her at the moment.
(37:27):
So I would say, to sum it up, Iwould say it really sucks to be
her right now and her smartestbet is probably just to lay very
low for a little bit.
Let it die down, let somebodyelse make a fool of themselves
and take the heat off of her,and she won't have to wait long.
I mean, this happens on a dailybasis, right?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, and, and let's be honest, people truthfully
only carry about care aboutgymnastics every four years.
So as long as she keeps hermouth shut for a while, nobody's
going to think about her, untilthe next Olympics rolls around
and they go hey, is is.
How old is Simone Biles?
Is she competing again?
Cause you know she keeps doingthat.
Every once in a while she quitsand then she comes back.
(38:09):
But yeah, if she shuts up now,it'll be three years before
anybody even thinks about heragain.
So, yeah, the whole thing'scrazy and I applaud Riley Gaines
because she has stayed in this.
She, she's paired herself toCharlie Kirk.
For those that don't know, youknow she, she is on the turning
(38:33):
point, you know world tour withwith him and, and you know, good
for her and she's she's doing agreat job of fighting for
women's sports as a whole.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
So yeah, that was a wonderful speaker, she's.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I really enjoy watching her together yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Extremely well, yes, perfect, pairing her with
Charlie Kirk doing that thereand I've seen them both, I've
seen those on the campuses andeverything.
And again, she's so composed,she's so knowledgeable, she's on
point.
Again, the way she handled thiswith Simone yeah, she
definitely did fight some firewith some fire, but I, you know,
(39:16):
I feel like she did it in areally classy way, really on
point, calling her out, callingout the things that she said and
the hypocrisy of it and, youknow, not letting her get away
with it and not being um,ruffled by it at all.
You know, she just kind of hadthat wow, really, uh, mentality
about it all, didn't she?
(39:37):
Just great job.
I think she's a great example,a great role model for all of
that.
And, uh, simone Biles man, Idon't know what you're thinking
and people made some, really,you know, a really great point
on there.
Well, simone never had tocompete against a biological
male in her sport and if she did, she probably wouldn't have
those gold medals and sheprobably wouldn't be saying what
(39:59):
she's saying now.
So, you know, real easy to talkfrom that glass house of yours.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, she got hit hard.
And USA Gymnastics just pulleddown their entire transgender
athlete policy from theirwebsite.
I don't think it's been saidout loud whether it's being
removed completely or it's justbeing revamped, but you know,
(40:26):
interesting timing, as soon asthis started, they jumped on
their website and it got washedaway, got brushed off, so their
transgender policy disappeared.
It hasn't been reestablished orreposted, but there is word out
there that they arereconsidering their entire
policy when it comes totransgender athletes.
So we'll see what happens outof that.
(40:47):
But again, honestly, threeyears, then somebody will care,
but until then, outside of theOlympics, nobody really, no,
truthfully, nobody really paysattention.
So you know, it's one luckything for Simone Miles, but in
the meantime we've got plenty ofthings to distract us besides
that.
Oh yes, oh plenty, plenty ofthings nonstop things to
distract us.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Besides that, oh yes, oh plenty, plenty of things,
non-stop things to distract us,and I think that is bringing us
to our our biggest topic of theevening.
Right, let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it, mygoodness, I mean such deja vu,
isn't it clay?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
it's like yeah it's such deja vu it's their vote to
remember if we're old enough toremember rodney king.
Yeah right, uh, 1992, um, youknow which was uh, for you know
you and I are of the right agegroup.
Where that was?
We were in our really key, likeyou know, late teens, early
(41:44):
twenties window kind of thing,and and it was, uh, that was
impactful on us because it wastelevised, um, you know, and,
and you can hearken it back tothe race riots in the late
sixties and and some otherthings.
But, um, you know, la was amess, la was on fire, you know,
I, I still remember the Koreangrocers who have come up in the
(42:06):
last few days, by the way, youknow, on the rooftops of their
grocery stores, you know, withrifles defending their
businesses, and and now we'vegot a very similar situation.
You could call it similar to youknow, those riots what was that
?
92?
And similar to George Floydjust a few years ago.
(42:30):
Um, but this is, this isdifferent, uh, because it's a
different crowd.
It's a different crowd ofpeople.
You know, truthfully, in thelast two it's been a lot of, uh,
uh, african-americans, uh, alot of, you know, blacks across
the.
You know, um, but and and inthe George Floyd, you know,
(42:50):
whatever it was a couple ofyears ago, there was a lot of
suburban white housewife, youknow, kind of people, uh,
involved with that one.
This is densely, uh, hispanic,latino, mexican predominantly,
but also a lot of, you know,white, liberal types joining in.
So it's a different.
It's got a different feel to it, although it looks very similar
(43:12):
.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And and you know this one, ofcourse, the irony of this one
that we're all watching in realtime is the you know the waving
of specifically Mexican flags.
You know the waving ofspecifically Mexican flags.
You know of people who aredon't want to be deported back
to Mexico, but they're wavingMexican flags and saying F the
(43:37):
USA, and so you know it's one ofthose.
Make it, make sense.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Right and you can't.
There is no making sense ofthis because this is, uh, or
orchestrated, this is instigated, this is encouraged, this is
allowed by the um, the rulingclass of California, and um, you
know, you have people likeMaxine waters saying idiotic
(44:05):
thing I like when is this womangoing to just go away?
But take a listen, nobody wasshot, nobody was killed.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
Get it in your head and so, when martial law is
called, what are you going tosay?
I missed the point.
Don't miss the point.
You all Don't think thatsomehow, because they called out
the National Guard, there wasviolence.
There was no violence.
I was on the street, I know,and I went from downtown
detention back out into thecommunity talking to people what
(44:34):
happened in Paramount, whathappened in Compton, what
happened in Inglewood?
So first of all, get itstraight and don't just rely on
what you're being told or thefew incidents that the few
incidents, the few minorincidents.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
You know, they're no big deal.
And let's, let's not talk aboutthe pallets of cinder blocks
being dropped off, and let's nottalk about the looting and
rioting that's going on.
And let's not talk about theyou know, bricks and everything
being thrown at police cars, andlet's not talk about the
(45:16):
burning down of everything insight.
Let's, let's not talk about anyof those things.
Let's, let's.
You know, not, it's nothappening.
It's not happening.
We're just making it up.
Don't believe your own eyes,believe what Maxine waters tells
you, because she is the one whoknows what's going on, not us,
(45:36):
not the people on the groundtaking this video footage.
None of those people, right?
I mean oops, sorry, um, youknow, don't't.
Don't pay attention to any ofthat.
You're just making it up, clayand it's, and she's not alone.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Um, you know that we talked about the media.
It's hard to believe the media,and the media is chiming in.
We're back to the mostlypeaceful protests, like you know
, during george floyd.
Um, you know we've got aoc.
You know there was a there.
Um, you know we've got AOC.
You know there was a.
There was another dumb one todayby her.
I think it was today, itmight've been yesterday, but it
was, like you know, it wasdeemed as like a few kids
(46:14):
throwing rocks.
Um, yeah, that's yeah.
So you've got that.
But then you've got, you know,the truthfully responsible
adults, um, who are wellsupposed to be responsible
adults.
You've got Gavin Newsom, who'sthe governor, and you've got,
you know, mayor Karen Bass, whois the mayor of LA.
You know, and those two.
(46:35):
So, in a longer term policydecision issue, now, we can go
back decades, but let's justtalk in the in the most recent
terms.
You know, newsom is responsiblefor sanctuary city policy, he's
, he's, you can go back to covidand figure out how much of a
jackass he is, but but he isresponsible for these types of
(47:00):
policies within the state ofCalifornia, right, this happens
to be mostly in Los Angelesright now, which means it lands
on Karen Bass's desk becauseshe's the mayor and they're both
not just denying this, they'readvocating for these things to
happen and they're allowing,they're sympathetic, right to
(47:22):
the violent activities, even tothe point of, you know, gavin
Newsom submitted a lawsuitagainst President Trump for
activating the National Guard,and we can talk about that more,
but you know, they tried to putan injunction in against you
know, bringing the NationalGuard in to stop this and
(47:44):
protecting federal lawenforcement, because that's
really what the genesis of thisis that federal law enforcement
ice was in Los Angeles, losAngeles County, the greater area
, and they were conducting, youknow, arrest operations, raids
and whatnot, and people gotupset and they surrounded and
attacked an ice detentionfacility and then they started
(48:05):
attacking convoys and then theystarted attacking police cars
and then, you know, and it justgrew and grew and grew beyond
the scope and capacity of the LApolice and the LA County
Sheriff's Department.
So, you know, and Newsom satthere on his thumb and he didn't
do anything and Karen Bassadvocated for all this.
And you know it was the summerof love.
(48:25):
They're all, they're justexpressing their anger.
And you know, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, and we're siding
with the immigrants.
Ok, fine, except for the factthat it's not peaceful.
There's nothing peaceful aboutthis at all.
Even from the very beginning,there was nothing peaceful about
this from from Jump Street.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yes, absolutely, and you know, violence is always the
go-to with them.
So, and it was caught in realtime, and the simple fact of the
matter that everyone should be,of course, paying attention to
is the fact that the governorand the mayor of that state
refused to protect the lawkeepers.
(49:06):
That's a big deal.
That's a problem, because ifthe law keepers decide, well,
we're just going to let you,we're just going to let you go,
just do whatever you want, thatcall would come a lot sooner
than that.
But you know what?
I take that back.
Actually, I take it back.
Clearly, the call wouldn't havecome.
They would rather theircitizens, their people, uh, lose
(49:29):
their livelihoods, lose their,their homes, lose their lives,
potentially.
Um all because they're justmostly peaceful protests and
they just need to expressthemselves.
You know that that is basicallythem saying we, we want this,
we want absolute anarchy anddestruction and chaos and all of
(49:51):
these things to happen, becausethere's no other way to look at
it.
You know they're allowing it.
They're saying this is okay, wesee the video footage.
It's not AI, guys, it's real.
And to call it isolatedincidents and all of these
things.
And to call it isolatedincidents and all of these
things Again.
The term of the decade probablyfor these people is gaslighters.
(50:13):
They are such gaslighters butyou can't do it anymore.
There are too many independentjournalists, people who are out
there with their phones andtheir cameras and they're
recording it and they'reuploading it and they're sharing
it and we're all seeing it, andthe people that are there are
living it.
So I don't know who they thinkthey're gaslighting.
(50:33):
You know, at this point, I meanthere there's definitely people
that are are buying whatthey're selling, but it's just
crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
I've seen some shocking opinions on some of
this.
You know, very early on, whenpresident Trump on, when
President Trump said he wasgoing to activate the National
Guard, I saw people saying, well, I can't believe.
I thought the GOP was forstates' rights and the state
should be allowed to handle this.
Well, here's the problem isthat's federal law enforcement
(51:01):
that's under attack and you'vegot a governor who's not doing
anything about it.
So the president has aresponsibility to take care of
that, right?
Oh, by the way, it didn't takea genius to figure out that this
was going to escalate the waythat it did.
And the theory that bringing inthe National Guard has
escalated this.
The National Guard was, youknow, two or three days.
(51:21):
This had been going on for twoor three days before the
National Guard even showed up.
So that doesn't hold watereither.
And then you know the Marineshave been.
If you've ever been, 29 palms.
29 palms is about two hours orso from LA, in the middle of the
frigging desert, and it is, andI was stationed at an army base
(51:42):
that was not far from there, um, and it's two of the most
miserable places on the planet,um, to be stationed in the
military.
And so you know they, theyalerted two, seven Marines,
second battalion, seven Marines,and and have moved them to LA,
but they have not been employedyet.
Understand that they are there,um, and but they, they have not
(52:04):
been put into play yet.
Uh, because people, coolerheads are prevailing and they're
saying, okay, but they, theyhave not been put into play yet.
Uh, because people cooler headsare prevailing and they're
saying, okay, this has thepotential to escalate.
Because, let me tell yousomething, when they unleashed
those Marines, um, it's going toget very interesting very, very
quickly.
Now, everybody LA, uh, police,la sheriff is all using
non-lethal.
No one in the middle of all ofthis, which is still baffling to
(52:26):
me, has been shot with a realbullet.
Nobody on either side Amazing.
Right, um, there have been a fewreporters who have caught some
um some, uh, non-lethal rubberbullets, some sandbag rounds.
There's a lot of footage ofthat.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Yeah, that, uh, what I saw was the australian
reporter she got pegged right inthe leg, I think.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, I saw another one, uh, a reporter got, took a
couple of rounds right to thechest, um, and yeah, so, um, so,
you know this thing is not, uh,it's escalated, but I I would
tell you it was going toescalate anyway.
Um, I would tell you thatbringing in the guard, uh, in
the timing that they did, wasappropriate.
(53:11):
I think holding back theMarines is the right.
You know kind of uh, you knowscheme of maneuver at this point
, but you know there've beensome indicators in the midst of
all of this.
Uh, the, the Walmart heiressright, has posted some things
where, um, she has basicallyouted herself as being
responsible for funding part ofthis.
(53:32):
There is money.
You've seen, I'm sure, thepickup truck that pulled up and
a bunch of riot shields wereoffloaded and handed to the
crowd.
You showed the bricks and thecinder blocks all being
pre-positioned, right.
You know one that all takesmoney, right, and it all smells
(53:53):
like Soros, and then it alltakes coordination right.
So this is not haphazard, thisis not.
You know, we thought of it twohours ago, kind of things.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, this wasn't a grassroots reaction.
This was an orchestrated,planned everything.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Right and it's blowing into right.
It's already started thisSaturday, which is supposed to
be the demonstrations across thecountry on no King's Day, which
is what they're calling it.
Right, all of these?
Um you know protests andparades, but it's already.
It's already escalating andstarting in the major cities.
(54:33):
Right, it's already reported inChicago, it's already reported
in New York where the riotsstarted last night.
The demonstration started lastnight.
They weren't even supposed tostart until Saturday, but in
reaction to what's going on inLA, the rest of the country is
amping up.
So we've got George Floyd kindof stuff going all over again
(54:55):
and it's going to be a wild,wild weekend across the United
States.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it really is.
And you know, this is all aboutoptics for them.
They want this.
They don't care about any ofthe people, they don't care
about the cause, they don't careabout anybody.
I'm talking about, of course,the people who are, who are
funding all of this, just likethey did all of the other ones.
Trump's fault, you know.
(55:27):
Look what happened on his watch.
He couldn't even control hiscountry.
You know, everything fell aparton his watch.
And you know this.
This is covid 2.0, basically,well, we can't.
We can't get them to buy intoanother manufactured virus, so
we're just going to burneverything we're just going to.
(55:48):
We're just going to causeabsolute chaos and destruction
and all of that, and you knowyou're dealing with a different
Trump now.
You know, perfect example,national Guard Marines they're
all on the ready.
This should be and I believe itwill be dealt with with swift
action and I hope that's whathe's going to do.
I hope there's no hesitation onit.
Um, because you can't.
(56:08):
You can't allow this.
It cannot be allowed.
Uh, you have to protect the, theinnocent citizens in these
cities who are, you know, therewas that one video.
The heart just infuriated andand broke my heart.
It made me so angry.
It was a young black woman.
She gets out of her car andshe's trying to reason with
(56:30):
these jackasses that areblocking the road and not
letting people pass through andshe's trying to tell them I need
to get to work.
You know, my son, all thoseLike, oh, boo-hoo, you have to
go to work.
Yeah, just, I've said it to youbefore, clay, I pray, I pray, I
(56:58):
pray that I never and theperson in my vehicle being
blocked by these people.
It won't end well and I to facethat, but that poor woman and
everyone in those situationsthey're just trying to live, and
these idiots are doing this.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, that actually happened in Chicago last night,
very first night of riots inChicago, and there was a car
that you know.
The police were trying to wavethe car down, they were trying
to direct it and I don't knowwho was driving it because it
never stopped, but they tried tokeep it going in one direction
and it was like Nope, I got togo that way.
I don't care if there's peoplethere or not, and they made a
left hand, turn right into thecrowd, bumped a few people,
(57:35):
knocked them over, kept right ondriving.
Uh and, and you know, I think Iknow that they um, in
California, they shut down.
I don't know if it was theone-on-one or the one 10, but
they, they shut down.
I think it was a one-on-one.
They shut down for about a halfan hour One of them, the
highways through the city.
And again, that's who they'reimpacting.
They're impacting the regularpeople that live in Los Angeles,
(57:57):
trying to go to and from work,and and that's who gets affected
.
I, I'll be honest with you, Istruggled with this, I am, I am
very much in the mindset, orhave been, to just let it burn,
but it's those people thatsuffer the most.
Right, you know, it would bevery nice if we could
(58:20):
collectively back off, you know,and just tell Newsom and Bass
hey, this is your problem.
And then, you know, tell borderpatrol, hey, move into Nevada,
move into, you know, arizona,don't let anybody in or out.
You know that kind of thing.
And just make Los AngelesSouthern California and Island.
But we can't do that.
I mean, I wish we could, but wecan't.
(58:43):
You know, I think the bestthing any governor could do
right now is encourage, evenoffer incentives If you're in a
state that's got the room andmaybe you've got some
opportunities for employment,maybe an incentive program to
move businesses and people tomove to uh to your state, um,
(59:08):
you know that are honestlylooking for for opportunities,
but again, that's not going towork either.
So, um, you know this, thisthing is going to run through
the weekend, mostly because ofthis no Kings protest on
Saturday.
Uh, and I, I expect, truthfully, I expect the LA stuff to peak,
probably tomorrow night andthen taper off.
(59:29):
But at the same time as ittapers off, you're going to see
it go up, uh, in the other majorcities and it's just going to
be a mess.
I really, really hope thatSaturday, um, in Washington DC,
that there is not an issue.
Uh, and for those of you thataren't aware, saturday is the
(59:49):
big 250th Army Birthday Parade,the military parade through
downtown Washington DC.
And listen, folks, I don't likeit.
I think it's bad optics.
I think there's a lot of otherthings we should be spending
money on.
Like you know, there's problemswith barracks, maintenance and
living conditions for soldiersand defense and all this other
(01:00:11):
stuff.
I think that the you know, theparade in DC is probably a bad
call, but that's my personalopinion.
What I really don't want is forone of these protests, these
violent protests, to spill overinto that event in Washington DC
on the same day.
That would be a horrible,horrible thing for the country,
(01:00:33):
not just the people directlyinvolved.
It will look very bad.
So let's all keep our fingerscrossed and hopefully this thing
de-escalates and doesn't getout of hand.
Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely it's.
You know it's once again scarytimes and and I hope you know,
nobody misses the irony thatit's always in the summer.
It's always how polite of themto you know, wait till the
summertime, when the sun isshining and it's beautiful out,
and, you know, never happens inthe wintertime, does it?
It happens, I mean I feel likeit has no no, no joke.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Listen, we used to talk about this Afghanistan.
It was a big thing.
We called it the fightingseason.
Like the wintertime, everything, yeah, no joke.
Like the altitude and theharshness of the winters in most
places.
So, like around late Octoberand into November, you would
start to see enemy activity godown and then, like in late
February and, and you know, inearly March it would start
(01:01:28):
coming back up again, and thatwas the fighting season.
You're right, it has everythingto do with the weather.
Um, and it's the same thinghere.
Like nobody likes to protestwhen it's sleeting outside, nope
.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Nope, they don't.
They're like they go home.
They're like, oh, maybe nexttime, sorry, I can't make it for
this one.
Yeah, cause you, you know, like, oh, maybe next time, sorry, I
can't make it for this one.
Yeah, cause you, you knowyou're dealing with a percentage
of the people that are doingthis are paid to be doing these.
These are paid actors, you know, not actors, but you know what
I mean.
Uh, paid to do these things andto and to cause this kind of
(01:02:00):
chaos.
Then you have, you know, ofcourse, the, the legitimate ones
, your illegal aliens protesting, and then you have your, you
know, virtue signaling whiteliberals.
You know, you have, you gatherthis crazy mosh of people, and
the one core thing that theyhave in common is that they're
(01:02:21):
unhinged, you know, and they'reeasy to manipulate and they're
easy to use for these purposes.
So, you know, it just creates aperfect horrible storm.
And, of course, that's wherewe're at.
And, you know, I pray for ourlaw enforcement across the
country as they gear up and toprepare for this and to deal
(01:02:44):
with these incidents.
You, you know just, uh, godbless them and God keep them,
and and their families, uh, whoare, you know, rightfully, very
concerned right now and, uh,really dreading this coming
weekend.
So, um, if you, if you know one, you love one.
Um, think some good thoughts,for if you're not a praying kind
(01:03:04):
, you know, think some goodthoughts for them and let them
know that you're thinking ofthem.
But we did it, clay.
We did all of the topics.
We were good man.
It's like we're professionalsor something.
We've been doing this foralmost two years now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, yeah, august is .
You know, let us, let us knowif you kind of you know what you
think of this kind of big topic.
On the back half, again, alittle change of format, you
know, just let us know if it's,if you like it better this way
or if you like it the other way.
And you know, we alwaysappreciate the feedback and the
comments from everybody.
(01:03:44):
Appreciate the feedback and thecomments from everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Absolutely, I'll say my piece, which is I hope you
guys have a great rest of yourweek, a very safe, happy, fun,
healthy weekend.
Happy Father's Day to you, Clay, and all the dads out there.
And yeah, that's kind of it forme.
You go ahead and sign them off,sign them out, check them out,
whatever I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
No, Elsa said it Everybody be safe this weekend.
There is a lot of crazinessgoing on and so, you know, be
safe.
I do plan on, you know,enjoying my father's day.
I'm going to spend it with kidsand my dad and my family and
we're going to do what Novaks doand we're going to go do the
American thing and go shoot guns.
But, you know, be safe thisweekend, and you know, if, if
(01:04:34):
nothing else, remember in theback of your head if you get in
a tight spot, keep moving, keepshooting.
Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Warrior leader, author, patriot from Ranger
School to the battlefield, fromthe front lines of combat to the
front lines of culture.
Retired Lieutenant Colonel ClayNovak isn't done fighting for
truth.
Catch him on the Elsa Kurt showand read his no holds barred
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Keep moving, keep shooting.
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