February 13, 2025 • 61 mins
The discussion centers around Tulsi Gabbard's confirmation and Trump's historic Super Bowl attendance, highlighting the complex interplay of sports and politics. Key themes include public sentiment, the cultural significance of halftime performances, and the implications of educational reform.
• Analyzing Gabbard's impact on political dynamics
• Trump's unprecedented Super Bowl appearance and its reactions
• Mixed reviews on Kendrick Lamar's halftime performance
• T-Mobile's innovative partnership for satellite coverage
• The absurdity of minting pennies amid budgeting discussions
• The push for reforming the Department of Education
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
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I'm good.
How are you?
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I'm good too, I'm especially good, so I'm going to
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But the exciting news is wejust got a word in a little
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(00:52):
And Clay you just told me rightbefore we start, she's already
working.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, they swore in at the White House.
So we have a DNI.
Not only did she get confirmed,but she walked right into the
White House and raised her righthand, swore in and I'm sure at
one of the many offices of ODNIshe's probably moved in and
getting herself to work.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
No doubt.
So we've got that and a ton ofstuff to talk about, right.
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As usual.
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Not, it's a heavy ceramic super mug.
Awesome, that was definitelyworthy of being the favorite.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Heck, yeah, heck yeah , all right.
What do we got for tapas here?
Let's see.
Okay, well, let's start offright off, right off the bat.
Let right, what do we got fortapas here?
Let's see.
Okay, well, let's start offright, right off the bat.
Let's let's just go over thisnow.
A confession did not watch asingle second, not even
commercials.
I had to get all of my infowhen I was doing my show prep
and outlining for the show.
I'm like all right, whathappened with this thing?
I knew, I knew the mostimportant thing, which was that
(04:39):
president trump was the firstsitting president to ever attend
a Super Bowl game and he cameout to wild cheers.
I understand.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yes, and that really surprised me that he's the first
ever sitting president.
And yes, the reaction in thestadium was massive.
You know there, of course, werethe typical celebrity reviews
were mixed.
You know there were some.
You know there, of course, werethe typical celebrity reviews
were mixed.
You know there were some.
You know Cardi B not thatanybody really cares was very
(05:11):
outspoken about Somehow hershoes got messed up and somehow
it was the Secret Service andPresident Trump's fault.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't know, stupid.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But yeah, he was a huge hit and he was.
The Secret Service had to havebeen losing their mind because
he was down on the field.
He was interacting with fans.
He was interacting with peoplewhich you know, for them is a
security nightmare, absolutely.
But that's him.
That's who he is and he's nevergoing to change.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
He's never going to.
He's.
He's never going to Listen.
He is a human being and I'msure he thinks about it,
obviously and of course, buthe's never going to be the guy
that lets fear stop him fromdoing what he he wants to do,
and I love that about him.
It makes me so anxious, but youknow, I mean really, really
anxious, along with every, everyother Trump supporter and Trump
(05:57):
administration supporter.
It's like, oh, please, don't doanything to derail this in any
possible way.
But, but yes, everything waswonderful.
Did he only stay through halftime?
Did he leave?
Did I read something that hedidn't say?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I don't know for sure .
I would imagine that it was notfor the duration of the game,
because the game got reallyboring.
He's got their ass handed tohim.
Taylor Swift got booed, whichyou know.
Listen, I listen, it is what itis.
I know she's not a Trumpsupporter, Right, I know.
So there was a little bit ofreaction.
(06:30):
It was a very, you know, kindof Yang versus Yang reaction.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, it made me feel a little icky hearing about
that it's totally unnecessary,but it is what it is.
It is what it is it's a rowdycrowd.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But the game got boring.
Eagles went up pretty handilyand then if President Trump left
for probably smart securityreasons, it would make total
sense.
And also the game was boring.
I know the Chiefs ended upscoring some points near the end
, but for the most part it was asnooze fest.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, I said to my husband you know he was coming
in and out and giving me likelittle updates on what was going
on, cause we used to lovewatching football.
That was our, that was ourSundays.
It was it was a production.
Every Sunday I would make foodfor like basically enough to
feed the whole neighborhood.
You know, we'd have our jerseyson.
You know the whole works and itwas so much fun.
And then they went and ruinedit and you know, so that was
that for me and I hold, I hold agrudge, I guess, and yeah, and,
(07:22):
and I hold a grudge?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I guess yeah, and you know the NFL continues to take
missteps.
I know they're trying to cleanthings up a little bit.
In the advertising there was adefinite in the trends in the
commercials.
There was a definite trend forpharmaceutical and big health
companies to reimage themselvesA lot of fight cancer and some
(07:46):
other things.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So, like the big pharma image is trying to be
reworked right now, which is agood thing.
Do it while they can right,Because if RFK Jr gets his way,
all done.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But you know, the halftime show, I think just
general consensus I think wasnot a success for a number of
reasons.
You know, I know that thepredominance of the NFL audience
is male and I know thepredominance of that audience is
younger males.
So Kendrick Lamar, you know avery long, crazy long halftime
(08:26):
show of rap.
I don't think that personallyit was.
I know a lot of people had ahard time understanding him and
I think that was me personally.
I think it was more about thesound than it was about like the
quality of the audio was theissue?
Not necessarily about that's mepersonally.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, you think I'm perfect by now.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, well, you know, every time you're in a stadium
and you know crowd noise and allthat stuff, it's, it's
different.
But uh, you know, they had someserena williams popped in there
.
That was a little bitcontroversial and the fact that
I guess and I don't reallyfollow the rapper hip-hop scene,
but uh, I know shocking.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's not your jam that's not your jam, I don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I I just, you know, i's some some of it I do like,
but he's not one of them.
So but I guess he was, you know, singing some song about Drake
and it was some sort of thischat, whatever, and I guess
there was.
I'm sure you do.
There was some sort ofrelationship between him and
Serena Williams.
So she decided to, you know,get on stage, and I know that
there's been a lot of commentaryabout that, including stage,
(09:23):
and I know that there's been alot of commentary about that,
including Stephen A Smith, whois a little kind of all over the
map right now, but his take onher appearance was listen, if
I'm your husband and you'restepping away from me to go
stand on a stage to talk trashabout a guy that you used to
date years ago, then you arefocusing way too much on
somebody who's not your husband.
(09:43):
That was the short version ofwhat he said, and so there was a
lot of back and forth aboutthat.
I didn't personally enjoy thehalftime show, but I couldn't
understand anything he wassaying while he was rapping, so
it was very I caught the clip.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I caught the clips, you know, after, like everybody
else, and I like his littledance, that he did.
I like that Totally.
No, it did that little danceand you know I had that little
moment and of course, so thoseof you who even give like half a
care, they you know.
So the rap world has become orsimply is what it's.
(10:18):
I liken it to like wrestling,you know how it's like a soap
opera.
It's a soap opera.
They have this whole big soapopera drama going on.
They have this there's beefbetween Kendrick Lamar.
I'm pointing over here becauseI have my notes there.
Nobody knows why I pointed overthere.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's right here.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
He's right here.
Hey, kendrick, yeah, and Drake,as you said, they've got this
big beef and I and I believe Iunderstand they've got this big
beef and I and I believe Iunderstand that they keep doing
these.
You know songs, or rap songs,dissing each other.
It's so funny for me to say theword dis, isn't?
It sounds funny to me?
Um, but yes, I'm using thatword and I guess, from what I
understand.
(10:58):
So Kendrick Lamar has a songout called not like us, which is
the one I'm actually referringto, that he did that little
dance to, I think, and he sayssomething right to the camera
which I've already forgottenwhat he said, but it was a
direct hit at Drake.
And the fascinating what makesit fascinating, at least vaguely
, is that I guess they have thesame record label and Drake is
suing his own record labelbecause they released that song
(11:22):
which is about him and reallytrashes him bad, like very bad,
from what I understand.
So that's the drama with that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
That sounds like good business by that record label
is what that's right Business bythem, absolutely.
So yes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I guess they didn't want him to sing that song and
obviously he did it anyway.
So who knows what therepercussions will be from that?
And yes, I know, guys, it'sgoing to be in the comments.
Who cares?
Nobody really cares.
It's just a topic, it's just athing that it's.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's the super bowl, um, and I know you know, for for
America and America, it is thesingle greatest sporting event
of the year.
So I mean you can't go withoutus, and we had the, you know,
president Trump showed up, soit's not like we can ignore it,
folks.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean you know, yes, now in my research, I saw that
Joe Biden was there as well.
Did you hear that I did?
not hear that.
That's what it's.
That's what this article said Iwas reading.
I went to People magazine, ofall places, to read what they
were saying because they hadlike they claimed to have the
full recap said she was there.
(12:26):
So go figure, um, who else?
Oh, I know what I wanted to askyou about.
Now, I have not looked up anyof the commercials.
Normally I would.
Normally I would like go lookat, you know, scroll through all
the commercials that theyplayed.
Uh, there was a lot of talkabout elon doing a commercial.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
That did not happen, correct, so that was not in the,
not in what everybody wasexpecting.
What everybody was expecting,what the rumor was, was that he
was going to, he had paid, youknow, for four or five spots,
and that he was going to usethose to like, have the doge
running clock like how muchmoney they've recovered, which
didn't happen.
Um, I will tell you, though,that one of the spots that
(13:03):
really I don't know if t-mobilepaid for it or Starlink paid for
it, but that was, to me, Ithink, probably the biggest news
out of the Superbowl was thatT-Mobile and Starlink have now
partnered up.
So where there is no cell towercoverage, t-mobile now has
satellites, has Starlinktechnology cell phones.
So, your regular cell phone, myregular cell phone right,
(13:26):
you're not a cell, not a satphone, but if you're in a place
where there is no cell coverage,they're providing satellite
coverage, and it is available toevery carrier, including AT&T
and Verizon, until July to tryout.
But this is like a.
This has the potential forcertain markets, and I'm talking
(13:46):
about those quote, unquoteflyover states where cell phone
coverage is not the greatest andthey're probably still running
a lot of 4G, if anything else.
But when you're out in themiddle of nowhere, you will
still have cell coverage throughsatellite, through Starlink, so
that's an Elon touch within theSuper Bowl itself.
You know Budweiser tried.
(14:08):
You know they had a decentcommercial.
It's not one of their best ones.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, huh.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, still Clydesdale, still cute, nothing
groundbreaking.
There was a, I think Jeep did a, you know last year I heard
Jeep was yeah.
It's Springsteen a couple ofyears ago, yeah, and then this
year it was Harrison Ford.
So they're kind of, you know,the nostalgia, america American.
So that was another one.
(14:34):
But no, overall I was, you know, mostly unimpressed with the
commercial lineup, and really Iwas.
I was hoping for that, the Eloncommercials commercials too,
and they just never happened.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
They didn't happen.
The only one that I heard thatwas well, they always and I
think they've run it for acouple, couple of few years now
the he gets us commercials, theyou know one is supposed to be
faith-based and the Christiansget all up in arms about it
because it's just not not acorrect representation of of
Jesus and all of that stuff.
I heard about that one.
(15:06):
I haven't watched any of them.
But the other one that I heardand maybe you know more than
well, you probably know morethan I do on this one, kanye
West spent like 4 million orsomething on a commercial and it
took everybody to a link wherehe was selling swastika t-shirts
.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I heard about the t-shirts.
I don't know about thecommercial with a link where he
was selling swastika t-shirts.
Is that correct?
I heard about the t-shirts.
I don't know about thecommercial with a link.
It would not surprise me.
You know, people have done theQR code commercial for the last
couple of years, so I do knowabout the t-shirts.
I do know that he has a website, or had a website, and the only
thing that was being sold was awhite t-shirt with a black
swastika on it.
(15:53):
I know that the product code isHH01, which is supposedly for
Heil Hitler.
Right, you know this is a.
You know the guy's got someissues, we all know that and I
think this was an attempt atlike freedom of speech is
freedom of speech even if youdon't like what I'm saying,
right?
Or it is a freedom of speechkind of thing.
There's the argument on whetheror not a swastika is hate
speech and you know whether itshould be allowed, and those
(16:16):
kinds of things.
So shock value in typical Kanyefashion.
But I don't know.
I don't know for a fact thatthat was linked to a commercial.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, yeah, I don't really know.
I read it.
Don't know the accuracy of it,because we can't believe
everything we hear.
Let's see what else I'm tryingto see.
I think that's it.
That's kind of it on that,nothing else.
Who else performed LaurenDaigle?
Who's a?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
great rendition of America, the Beautiful yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I heard that was really cool.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
What's his name?
Trombone Shorty.
Yeah, he played with her, sothat was a great, you know great
opener.
You know the National Anthem.
I can't even remember the guy'sname.
Yeah, I think it was like JohnBaptiste or something like that
(17:05):
he interpreted it.
I'm a traditionalist.
I would rather have somebodyjust sing it the way it was
written Minimal deviation.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Actually, I don't like whenthey kind of go off the rails on
it.
But Chris Stapleton is probablymy favorite.
Maybe between him and was itWhitney Houston?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, she's the GOAT.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's probably the absolute best.
And then for me, next in line Ithink would be Chris Stapleton.
I still got I get chills justjust thinking about it.
His voice, man, oh my goodness,but yeah so.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
President Trump did also meet with many of the
victims from New Orleans, fromNew Year's Day, which he said
one of his primary, if not hisprimary reason for going.
They brought them together,which I thought was great, you
know.
So he took advantage of thatopportunity to stop and talk
with those folks and see them.
So, in typical President Trumpfashion, you know he turned it
(17:58):
into, you know, even if it wascontroversial, he turned it into
something great.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah absolutely .
Yep, I love that.
Let's see.
Let's go back to what we openedthe show with.
Let's talk about theseconfirmation updates Tulsi, yeah
, baby yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, confirmed 52-48 .
My understanding is the onlyRepublican that did not vote for
her.
Surprise, surprise wascconnell.
Yeah, um, who yeah no surprise,no surprise, um.
There was evidently a lastditch effort by um I don't
(18:33):
remember his name from virginia.
He's been on the uhintelligence committee since
2011.
I'm drawing a blank on his name, but he tried to give some, you
know, last ditch speech beforethe vote to try and convince
people.
Basically called herirresponsible, wasn't up to task
, didn't have the qualifications, blah blah blah blah blah.
(18:55):
Schumer went on his little ranttoo, and I guess Tom Cotton and
Vice President Vance were theones who rallied the troops to
get her over 50.
They did some campaigning onher behalf, so they got her
52-48.
Did not need to involve thevice president this time, which
is good, yeah.
And so she got through.
And then, as soon as she gotthrough, she got sworn in and
(19:17):
I'm sure she's at work Right.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, I guarantee, right off the work, that seems
to be the pattern.
They right after work, thatseems to be the pattern.
They are all workhorses, man.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Every single one of them has just hit the ground.
Did you see, pete Hedges?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
on Monday morning.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yes, so we'll talk about his flight on Sunday and
the act he took in just a minuteor two, but he flew to Europe.
So he flew to Europe over theweekend and I think it was
Monday morning.
He got up and did PT with 1stBattalion, 10th Special Forces
Group.
Yeah, and he's a rock star fordoing it Right, everybody.
(19:50):
We've never had a sec def who'sdone this and it's the reality.
We've never had a sec def whocould who could even yes, so
true.
So you know it's good on him.
You know, see the four-starstanding behind him, but I would
imagine it was the US commanderof Europe or somebody like that
(20:11):
Europe and Africa, whoever thefour-star is now.
But he was talking to the pressand he said, hey, this gives me
an opportunity to.
Or he said what he started outwith was, hey, no offense
General, but I'm probably closerto, or I'm more relatable to,
the group of guys that I did ptwith than I am to the four-star
generals and this gives me anopportunity to talk to them.
(20:34):
You know, as I go and talk tothese four stars.
So you know he's trying to.
He's trying, he's doing whatgood leaders do.
He's trying to bridge the gapbetween, you know, the executor
and, uh, the policymaker, andand good on him.
So, but you're right, he'sanother.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He's another workhorse, just like he's gonna
be yeah, absolutely every singlepan bondi everybody, every
single one of them he was doingconstruction work today.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Did you see that?
did not see that reallypersonally took down photographs
of uh, the chain of command,photographs of President Biden,
vice President Harris and, likeshe was in DOJ, like herself
removing them.
Yeah, same thing, doing allthat, doing all that.
You know, it's a lot of PR,it's a lot of image, but it's
(21:20):
also a lot of message sending.
It's a lot of messaging to thefolks that work for them that
this is some serious stuff, butit's also a lot of message
sending.
It's a lot of messaging to thefolks that work for them that
this is some serious stuff.
I saw you posted on Facebook, Ithink, before we started
recording about your buddy, theguy I think you're rooting for
more than anybody Rooting forhim hard Junior.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, yep, junior, bobby, bobby, junior, yes, so he
moves on to the next phase.
Now I saw on x, of course, um,that according to this whole, uh
, every single one of them thatwe're waiting on is pretty much
guaranteed to get confirmed.
(21:56):
So I don't, I don't, honestly,I don't know what the basis is
for that.
I know it.
It seemed to be a prettyreputable and reputable, sorry
and reliable page.
I saved it, but it's not uphere right now.
So, yes, come on, guys, youknow, go, go look it up.
I can see I get crotchety withthat because it's like, you know
(22:17):
, that's, that's what they do onthe left when they're too lazy
to go look things up themselves.
I'm not calling our guys lazy,I'm just saying you know I get
agitated when people are likewell, can you write your sources
?
Go look at it.
If you don't believe me, golook.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Google, google it.
It's not like you put the DeweyDecimal System in a card
catalog in the library.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Come on, guys, it's nice and easy.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And just think of the joy you'll get if you get to
come back back and say you werewrong.
Oh, but yeah, so up to finalvote.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So his confirmation vote is is it tomorrow?
Do we think?
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think um late tomorrow.
Yeah, I think it's latetomorrow, which will be um
essentially while we're well.
We should know collectively.
We should maybe know whilewe're on air tomorrow.
Yeah, it should have alreadybeen decided so we can chat
about it all in the commentsthat um that spot on x.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
They're confident that kosh is gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They're confident, yeah, they were they were um,
they were, they were confident.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So yeah, I guess they go by like these betting sites
that's.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I did that during the election, did you?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
oh yeah, we did talk about that, you're right yeah,
that's the most accurate.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That gets doesn't lose like right.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, so it makes sense, so that's good.
I that that makes me feel good,very happy.
Um, yes, I.
You know people are gonna thinkI have a crush on bobby jr
there.
I really don't, um, I just Ihave a crush on what, what I
expect him to do with his role,with his position.
You know, the more I read, Ijust I just shared something or
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maybe I, maybe I scheduled it toshare about you know, people
always say things like you know,when you tell them, well, don't
eat that, it's full of crap,it's garbage, don't drink that,
it's pure garbage, and they sayI drank that as a kid, it's fine
, it's like no, you didn't, it'snot the same thing what you
drink as a kid.
Like the example um, you guyswill see it tomorrow in my um on
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Facebook, uh, but the examplewas Gatorade, of all things.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Right, it's a great it's a great example.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, the glass bottles, right.
Yeah, it used to be glassbottles.
And maybe, maybe, half a dozeningredients, right.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's like four.
It's like four yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, and now it's probably like minimum of a yeah,
exactly, exactly, and thingsyou cannot pronounce and the
plastic, and you know, oh well,don't get me started, I'll go on
the tirade.
But, yes, you know, so, yeah,so I'm'm very hopeful and I
don't want to hear and one ofthe biggest things I'll tell you
, and I'll be all over itposting about it if I don't see
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things happening as fast aswe're seeing these other things
happen.
You know, for the example, thatred dye number three 30 years
they knew that it had cancercausing agents.
30 years they waited and then,a hot minute before they think
he's coming in, they're like, oh, we're banning that.
However, manufacturers get touse it, um, for another two
(25:12):
years, two years before theyhave to.
No, I want it gone immediately.
And yes, I know all my like.
You know, smart people aregonna be like well, you know,
you have to understand theproduction cost of things.
I don't care, I don't care,figure it out.
You've had plenty of time tofigure, don't care, I don't care
, figure it out.
You've had plenty of time tofigure this out.
They used to do it.
You can do it again, don't?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
dye it.
Yeah, that's all.
Don't use it Like if the redSkittles just come out white,
fine, and I'm not saying redSkittles has that dye color in
it, but you know what I mean,like Fruit Loops or whatever it
is.
Just don't use the dye Likewe'll be okay for a little while
until you come up with ahealthy replacement.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Fruit Loops was a great example actually, because
there's an Aldi's brand orAldi's brand doesn't have it in
there, it doesn't have the dye.
So plenty of people are doingit.
You can do it too, and don't goraising the prices of
everything on it just becauseyou took out stuff.
That's the biggest bracket.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All the cereal companies sell these same things
in Canada and they don't haveany of those ingredients.
So they have the capability,they just don't want to.
And so yeah, go without for awhile, we'll be OK.
Nobody's going to forget whatred Froot Loops look like.
It's just fine, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And I don't think anybody's going to sit there a
few years from now and go gosh,remember when Froot Loops had
that great red color.
Nobody would care, right?
Nobody is going to sit thereand have nostalgia over red
Froot Lo loops, so just stop itimmediately.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
On the flip side.
Yeah, be a little bit nostalgic.
Do you remember like Pepsiclear?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I do.
That was like.
When was that, though?
How long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
A long time ago, so they tried it too, but they but
Pepsi tried clear, so no, Iforgot coloring and it was.
You know.
Know, I won't say it was acolossal, you know failure, but
it yeah, we don't have itanymore no, that tells, you.
Yeah, you know based on pastprecedents that if we don't put
colors in it then people won'tbuy it right?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
yeah, yeah, it's all about, you know, or at least
under the guise of aestheticsand making things look appealing
and and you know all of thosethings.
I certainly get that.
You know, I, I was raised my,my grandmother always, you know,
we, my grandmother always madebeautiful, amazing food, but she
always plated everything niceand she, you know.
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So it was ingrained in my headthat your food should look
beautiful.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You eat with your eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You do exactly, so I totally understand it.
However, I think we are in sucha different place Um
knowledge-wise than we were backthen when they did the Pepsi
clear and tried that.
Now you know, we would welcomethat, I think.
I don't know, I don't drinksoda, so, but I would think that
, knowing what we know now, ifit's still tastes the same and
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it's better for me, I mean, it'sa win-win right there, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
So we're still waiting on Kosh, which I
personally believe is going tobe even more of a fight than RFK
, and I say that because there'smore to protect and hide.
Yes, so I think he will be theone who will be the most uphill
battle.
I hope that one resolves itselfquickly and he can get in there
and start breaking stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
He said, he said day one list is released.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So they just?
I just saw a press conference.
They have what was her name.
They just appointed a lady.
They just appointed a lady Ithink she falls under Department
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of Justice who is going toinvestigate and release the
documents for JF files andsomething else.
But it's all the conspiracytheory stuff on the Epstein list
, right?
All the things that are goingto come out.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
She just got put into this position, right, she's got
a long name.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I saw that.
I saw that.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
They're just going to keep breaking stuff, and I'm
all for it.
And I know there's a lot ofpeople you know I had been
sparring with people for thelast two weeks about, you know.
Well, you know it started outwith the nobody elected Elon and
now it's the like this is beingdone.
You know swipe of a penexecutive branch.
You know there's no oversight,this and that, and you know my
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question to them remains thesame Did you complain this loud
for the last four years?
Because if you didn't?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't want to hear it.
Did you complain about Obamarunning a shadow governor?
George Soros?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I bring up Soros all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Did you complain about Kamala Harris not being
voted on to run for president?
Did you complain about Faucirunning the show and telling
everybody you know they had toget back to eat it?
Just shut up already.
Nobody cares, nobody'slistening and you know, half the
time we're actually laughing atyou as you stomp your feet and
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hold your breath and you know,foam at the mouth, so cry more.
So that's going to be the nextT-shirt I put out Cry more, cry
more.
I like that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That's coming out.
You heard it first, guys, it'scoming out.
So we talked about SecretaryHegseth breaking stuff.
I think he fixed something.
He did he did.
It's close to home for me.
I'm not shy about this.
Fort Bragg, you know, was my,was my army home for many, many
years.
I've got, you know, mymemorabilia is on my wall.
I was, you know, in the 82ndAirborne Division for most of my
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deployments and that it, youknow.
When they renamed Fort Bragg, Iwas, I was adamant that it was
absolute garbage or Liberty.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Is that what they?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
they named it Liberty and there's a lot most people
don't know.
The reasoning behind it'sactually one of the worst
received renaming of the eightbases that got renamed because
it wasn't a person.
I do know the story behind itand because there's such a
confluence of special operationsand airborne you know the 82nd,
they didn't want to pick oneperson and then potentially
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alienating the other community.
So pick a special operator andthe regular 82nd guys were like
hey, you know, or vice versa,which I think was you know.
I don't think it was soundreasoning, but that was the, the
fear.
So the reason they went withLiberty is because the word
Liberty is, you know, in the82nd airborne division song and
all the paratroopers out thereknow the song.
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So you know the word liberty isin the song and you know the
Latin motto of Special Forces isDeo presso liber, which is free
, the oppressed right, and liberin Latin obviously means
liberty.
So they thought it was a goodbalance to touch, to use that
word.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
They were wrong.
They were very wrong.
It was terrible.
But so in a C-17 US Air Forceaircraft on his way to Europe
over the weekend, secretaryHicks renamed yet again Fort
Bragg back to Fort Bragg in avery, very barracks lawyer
loophole Amazing, swift,brilliant move.
Barracks lawyer loopholeamazing, swift, brilliant move.
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Not name it after GeneralConfederate General Braxton
Bragg, who it was originallynamed after.
Right, and that's what all thehub was about was because of the
war, right, yes, Yep.
What they found was from WorldWar II a young private, first
class Roland.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Bragg, roland Bragg.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, class, roland Bragg signed to the 513th
Parachute Infantry Regiment,17th Airborne Division, assigned
to 18th Airborne Corps, whichresides at Fort Bragg, received
the Silver Star.
For you know gallantry andaction, you know valor and all
those things.
He got shot.
Right, yeah, he got wounded inthe Battle of the bulge, stole a
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german ambulance right soclearly.
Like you know, yeah, wentsomewhere beyond there.
Yes, german ambulance came back,picked up a bunch of other
wounded guys and then drove agerman vehicle backwards through
us lines to a hospital, killeda million times over, received
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the Silver Star and the PurpleHeart for his actions.
So Fort Bragg is now namedafter PFC Roland Bragg.
Now, I love it.
I think it's great.
I wrote a blog about it.
It's out there.
I think you know the name Bragg.
Fort Bragg is synonymous with alot of things in the Army, and
specifically that thatinstallation has the most unit
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pride in the esprit de corps ofany Army installation you'll
ever go to and you'll neverconvince me otherwise, and if
anybody you know any Armyveteran is honest with
themselves, they'll agree.
So, unfortunately, though, Idon't think the other bases will
have the same kind of luckfinding a valorous award winner
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with the same name on theirrolls that they can rename the
installation after.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It won't be for lack of trying, though I'm sure
they're going to.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm sure there's a lot of a lot of history, you
know, research going on rightnow, but you know, I think it's
a great move.
A lot of people will say it hasnothing to do with war fighting
, which is one of the thingsthat secretary Hegseth, you know
, said that he was going tofocus on.
People will say it was caught,it's costly.
People say it's a, you know, awaste of time or whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
We got a lot of money getting saved in other areas.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
One, we are saving a lot of money too.
It's his budget as the SECRight.
And three, you can't put aprice tag on camaraderie, esprit
de corps, and you know, unitpride, yeah so, and that stuff
all matters in war fighting.
And you know, in the blog Iwrote I said you know the Marine
Corps has cornered the marketon being proud of who they are.
Nobody's better at it than theMarines are, period.
So go find a Marine, tell themthat you know it's not important
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to be called a Marine and thatthey're going to change the name
of the Marine Corps tosomething else, and you'll watch
them froth at the mouth.
I'm married to one of those.
You can't even joke about that.
My baseball hat will get thrown.
Their Marine Corps polo willcome off and they'll try and
fight.
It matters that stuff mattersin war, fighting folks it really
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really does.
So I think this is a great move.
I think it was a little, youknow, slick move Um, but I I'm
super happy about it and youknow people may think my
priorities are messed up but Ireally don't care.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, who cares?
Cry more, cry more See we'regoing to have plenty of
opportunities to use that, andyou know side note, and it's a
really great side note becausewe have talked about this
several times over the pastcouple of years about army
enrollments and guess what.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Exploded.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yes, exploded.
Yes, since the election.
Yes, it's loaded.
How exciting.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yes, Since the election.
Yes, december was a massivemonth and then January beat
December, set an all-time recordfor enlistments.
They met their goals for thefirst time in a couple of years,
and it's all since the election.
So if you think the Trumpeffect and Hegzeth truthfully,
if you think that that you knowit doesn't matter to our defense
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it does matter.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It absolutely matters , yeah, and this is just a, you
know, another example of therestoration of American pride
and love of this country and itis so exciting to see, makes me
so happy.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, and, and some of it is policy change, some of
it is, listen, we're not goingto sacrifice the goods of the
many for a few.
You know everybody talks about,you know, the right to serve
and all these other things asAmerican citizens, but at the
same and listen, the militaryhas been a social experiment for
decades.
Racial equality started in themilitary well before it started
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anywhere else.
And, and you know, same thing,right, you know, equal
opportunities for women and allkinds of things were accelerated
within the military.
But we took some missteps andit and it affected enlistments,
it affected retention, and sothey're they're rolling some of
that back and a lot of it is.
You know, I, you know to focuson the trans thing, but you know
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they've said it, we're notdoing operations anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Right, which is mind blowing to me, that they were in
the first place.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, I, I know you and I talked about this once
before and I'll lay it out again.
So if, if you were to do a fouryear enlistment and and you're
you know you were going totransition, right?
So you would enlist, you wouldgo through basic training and
AIT and as soon as you wouldcome out of that you would go
into the counseling phase ofthese things.
You would go for a consult,just like you would normally a
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medical consult, psychologicalconsult.
They would start you on the um,all of the uh medications that
the hormone replacement would gointo a preoperational status,
which would make you immediatelynon-deployable, right, okay.
Then once you got in you know,so far in your hormone, and then
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you got into the to thephysical operation right,
surgical portion of this.
You would go through thesurgery, you would go through
your transition.
You would go through a 12 to 18month physical recovery, the
entire time non-deployable, andthen, by the time you are
deployable, you have less than ayear left in your timeline,
your service timeline, and youcan't be deployed anyway.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I was going to say how can you even be deployed?
Because the treatments you haveto be on, the medications you
have to be on, are lifelong.
So if you can't get, access.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
There was always discussion about being able to
give that in theater if theyneeded to.
But if you were only going todo one enlistment like you,
literally the Army paid for youto transition, or the Navy or
the Air Force or whoever, andyou have done none of your
wartime job Right.
So they've stopped doing that,it's off the table, and I think
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that those are the.
Those are the types of policymoves that are appealing to more
people and getting them to notonly join but to stay in.
So I think you're going to seenot only enlistment numbers go
up, but retention numbers aswell.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I love it.
I love it.
It's just common sense.
Good old return to common sense.
It's such a beautiful thing andso bizarre that it's something
you need to come back to and notjust simply have.
But we all know where we werefor the past four years, plus
you know um.
What else have we got?
I don't see anything to segue.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I do Common sense.
Two cents Common sense segue.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Common sense.
Two cents, that's right.
Where's my?
Where's my banner?
There it is.
Yeah, it costs us two cents tomake a one cent coin and
president Trump said we're notdoing it anymore.
Now, these are things I had noknowledge of.
When I read that, I'm like whatYep Talk about illogic, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
And and so there's been a number of movements in
the last probably 15 years tostop this.
In fact, he's getting a lot ofbipartisan support on this
because it doesn't make sense atall the value of the penny at
one cent and two cents to make.
So it's, it's a loss andobviously President Trump, being
financial guy, was like this isthe dumbest thing ever.
(40:16):
So silly, right.
So he's not taking it out ofcirculation.
People, the pennies are notgoing away.
The only move he has made sofar is he has told the mint you
know whoever that is under theTreasury Department stop making
new pennies.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
No more new pennies, so go out.
That was my big question, clay.
I'm like gosh.
I feel like such a dum-dumasking this, but what happens to
all the pennies that peoplehave in their jars and save up?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
They're still legal tender.
Yeah, so that never stops.
No, we haven't made.
You know we haven't made.
Not that you know it's a dollar, but, like Susan B Anthony,
dollars haven't made in years.
They're still legal tender.
Kennedy, half dollars, samething, right, right, the pennies
are still viable.
We're just not making any moreof them.
So you know it's.
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You know there's a couple ofgood memes out there where how
useless the penny is.
You know, like electricianshave figured out that washers
are like eight cents.
So what you know, jokingly,what some of them have started
doing is drilling holes inpennies because they make a two
cent washer.
There, you go yeah, right andreally so, but president Trump
did that on super bowl Sunday aswell.
He's like, yeah, we're notdoing this.
(41:24):
So what about the?
What about the nostalgia piece?
I mean we're you know it'scommonsensical, but does it
bother you that we won't have apenny anymore?
Should we replace it withsomething else?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Again something I will never think about outside
of this moment right now.
You know what I mean.
Like I'll see, I don't know.
I mean, I think all of us who,for as long as we're of the, you
know old enough to rememberYou're right We'll be like oh
yeah, pennies, that was a thing.
And then, oh yeah, pennies,that was a thing.
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And then the you know, like mygrandkids, would be like what's
this funny looking thing, whatdo you do with this?
You know, I mean whatever, whocares?
If it's going to save us money,if it's going to eliminate
waste, if it's going to bepractical, I'll, you know, I'm
good with having a moment of oh,pennies, it's not going to
happen.
Use them for jewelry orsomething.
I've seen videos.
I've seen those DIY videos.
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People have actually used themin floors and they put like an
epoxy over.
It looks gorgeous.
It's the most fascinating thing, to me, at least.
Yeah, so I mean plenty of usesfor your pennies, and I mean,
you know, like you said, though,there's still, it's still use
them, but if you don't want to,let's be a decrease in some
fantastic practical jokes.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
I saw a guy.
This was probably maybe threeor four years ago.
He was a divorced guy somewherein the Midwest and his ex-wife
was giving him a hard time andthere was an argument about
alimony.
It was like fine.
So he paid her alimony inpennies, with a dump truck and a
wheelbarrow in her driveway.
Thousands of dollars of penniesin a pile in her driveway.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh, there was another one too.
Somebody brought them into abank.
They had to like they were.
I don't know.
I think they were harassing himover something.
Maybe it wasn't a bank, maybeit was like some business or
something that was harassing himover a payment and he just came
in with like bags and bags ofpennies and just like here you
go.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Count it, count it, yeah, use it.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yep, yep, so isn't that funny?
Yeah, so I'm good with that.
I'm fine with saying goodbye tothe penny.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I am curious though.
So that's like, you know,that's a notorious sales scheme,
right, right, you know.
Twelve, ninety, nine, seventeen, ninety eight, you know
whatever it is, twenty twentyfive, seventy nine.
So people don't you know, theyjust look at it and they say
twenty five dollars instead oftwenty six dollars.
So are we going to replace thatwith nickels now, do we?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
have a feeling.
Yeah, that would make sense.
I think it was like Canada.
I think it was Canada that didthat.
Like they got rid of their,their penny and um and they, you
know, they just told businesses, people selling goods or
whatever, just you know, insteadof 1299, make it 1295.
And I think they still used it,like in digital currency.
You know what I mean.
So, like, if you're selling, ifI was selling my t-shirts,
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whatever online, which is theonly place I sell them- actually
, um, you know you would.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
You could still do the $12.99 or $24.99, whatever.
The case is like in-personstuff, you would just go to the
nickel.
Listen, we're still dumb enoughto use nine-tenths of a cent
for gas.
Yeah, I know, it is what it is.
We'll.
We'll see where this takes us,but yes, it sounds like we will
be manufacturing minting.
No more pennies.
So for you collectors out there, put them in a mason jar
somewhere and bury them in yourbackyard.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Hey, I found this a good segue.
Oh, another, another thingwe're going to say goodbye to.
Maybe, oh maybe, maybe we'vebeen talking about this kind of
loosely over the past, I don'tknow, probably a couple of weeks
or so, yeah, you know.
And as surprise, surprise, theleft is freaking out, going
crazy.
In particular, did you see thevideo of the, the Democrat
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Congress, men and women movingin like a mob of banshees and
converging at the office of theDOE and essentially verbally
attacking this one lone securityguard, who is the badass of the
week for sure?
That guy's my hero.
(45:24):
He was amazing, mine too.
I think there are a lot of.
I think you know he's not yourmovie star, handsome guy, but I
think a lot of women swooned alittle bit Like, oh my heart,
now that's a man right there.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Never raised his voice, never got animated, never
got angry, Stood therestoically.
You know I only heard him.
I'm sure he's probably spokemore than once, but you and I
talked about this.
You know Maxine Waters.
You know with her, you know,you know she looks like a Star
Wars character to me, so crazy.
She's pointing at him andsaying, well, what, if, what, if
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?
We're going to come back herein the middle of the night?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Does that mean that you're going, gonna stay here
the whole time?
And he's like, I guess.
So he was so chill, like helooked like.
I loved his look of annoyance,but it was the kind of annoyance
that if, like a you know a napkept flying around you and it
said that's enough to annoy you.
That was the extent of hisfacial reaction and even his
responses.
You know like at one point shesaid are you going to?
I think she said something tothe effect of are you?
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going to stop us all from goingin there.
And he said what are you goingto do?
Steamroll me.
Every part of his response andreaction was spectacular.
Response and reaction wasspectacular.
Everything about their behaviorand their actions was so
disgusting and such anembarrassment to this country
really to to themselves morethan anything.
(46:52):
Um, what else did she do?
She says this is the funniestpart to me Where's your ID?
Show me your ID.
Isn't this the party of no ID?
Right?
Like, suddenly you want an ID.
Right, suddenly, an ID is soimportant to you.
And then, when he shows her theID, that woman has the audacity
to like, flick it.
She flicked it with that bonyfinger.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Like, yeah, and all of this was started because Elon
Musk, on Sunday, right beforethe Super Bowl, I think said you
know that the Department ofEducation doesn't exist anymore
and everybody was like what?
So Monday morning they all wentto the building and the doors
were locked and listen, there'sno.
I don't care who you are and Idon't care what you know, what
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industry you're in, I don't carewhat you do for a living.
What you do for a living If youhave an organization, a
business of any kind that hasfailed in their mission.
As just colossally as the dealis, you would tear that place
apart and shut it too, without adoubt.
Yeah, if you went from secondplace in your industry and you
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implemented this new departmentthat was supposed to
revolutionize everything, andthen you went to 40th place, you
would.
You would close that, you wouldget rid of that completely and
you would at least, at a minimum, go back to doing what you're
doing.
However, you wouldn't waste 40years waiting to do that.
We should have closed DOE along time ago.
This is a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
They are and you know , and if I understand correctly,
the doors were shut.
Everything was shut downbecause they were essentially
auditing at that point.
So they're looking for thewaste.
This is not the time to come inand have your little
conversations and, you know, wagthat bony finger in anybody's
face.
You're going to wait until it'stime to have a conversation.
Right now, this is what'shappening.
(48:43):
You're okay, nothing's going tohappen to you.
You know, kids are still goingto school, everybody's still
learning things.
Calm yourself and wait.
And we're going to find thewasteful spending and we're
going to eliminate it.
And guess what?
The whole thing is a waste.
And I think he already.
I think he found, well, I don'tknow how many million, but
millions of dollars going to DEI, you know, initiatives and
(49:03):
programs and everything.
So I think it was like 79million or 80 million, $89
million, going to DEI traininginitiatives.
You know, whatever they,however they termed it, but yeah
, and that's done.
These days are done of thatkind of nonsense, you know, and
how infuriating.
And if you're sitting theresaying, oh no, we need those,
(49:24):
those DEI training andinitiatives, what are we going
to do with them?
Screw you.
That's the nicest way I can putit, because I wanted to say
something else, because if I'mgiving money to the Department
of Education, you know, somebodysays you have to give money to
the Department of Education.
I would say, okay, well, what'sthat money going for Education?
(49:45):
I would say, of course, take mymoney, because I want my kids
to have the best education, andthat means, you know, math,
science, reading, all of theimportant things, not gender
studies, and I, you know, Idon't even know what.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Listen, we suck at STEM.
We do Comparatively in theListen.
We suck at STEM.
We do Comparatively in theworld.
We suck at STEM.
And if we're not focused onthat as the number one priority,
then we are wrong.
I would tell you, it's probablySTEM one and physical fitness
as part of education, and when Isay physical fitness, I'm
(50:24):
talking about nutritionaleducation, I'm talking about
exercise for kids, I'm talkingabout lowering the obesity rate,
and this all ties into RFK, butlike, that's part of it.
So STEM and then PE are the twobiggest things Absolutely, and
I don't know if you know this ornot, but I, you know, I
substitute, taught for a whileand you know that, for in some
places, stem became STEM A.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
No I know Right.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Is it the A?
Is the art?
Is the arts?
Oh, ok, because they weren'tgetting the funding.
Right and all the liberal artsteachers got offended because
they weren't getting the sameshare of money that the STEM
teachers were getting.
So a lot of schools to avoidconflict and stop hurting
people's feelings and extendedit to a STEM a.
(51:09):
So it's, you know, engineering,it's all that stuff,
mathematics and the arts, youknow.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Well, so here's the funny thing.
So I, I love, I love the arts.
I loved all the creative stuffas a kid.
It was like one of the fewthings I excelled at at school
because I was a littletroublemaker Don't come for me,
people, I was, I can't help itUm, and I, I loved all of that
stuff.
Now here's where I draw theline, Like I would love to see
the arts included in that,because I think music and you
(51:36):
know, uh, art in general, we'lljust go with.
I think those are so beneficialto have in your life, right
Developmentally everything.
But where I draw the line iswhere you take it too far.
And now you're having drag.
You know shows and things.
You know what I mean.
They always take everything toodamn far.
Yeah, you know.
(51:56):
So stay focused.
Teach the fundamentals of youknow, I don't know color theory,
I don't freaking know, but youknow what I mean Normal stuff,
Don't take it off the rails, butListen, and I would tell you
that you know STEM, obviouslybeing science, technology, you
know engineering, mathematics,right.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
So we need that as a nation.
We need that to competeglobally.
I would tell you that you know,the baseline for all of that is
being able to read.
You know, obviously, as part ofthe liberal arts is not and
it's not just being able to read, but comprehending as well.
So it's intricate.
To all of that, that doesn'tmean it needs to be extended
(52:35):
into the creative arts, likelisten, if your school wants to
and can afford to, you know,after everything else is said
and done, have a great liberalarts program, right?
If not, you still have to knowhow to do math.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
You know it is what it is.
So, yeah, I, you know thiswhole thing has been convoluted.
I am all for, you know, pushingthings back down to the states.
I think some states are stillgoing to suffer because of their
own culture.
I think you're still going tohave problems in places like
California and specifically LosAngeles County.
You're going to have problemsin Illinois, specifically Cook
County, chicago.
(53:11):
You're going to have problemsin New York.
You know New York City, youknow Michigan, detroit.
You're still going to haveproblems in those areas because
the states, you know, are goingto be overridden by mayors and
public school teachers unionsand those kinds of things and
there's still going to be achallenge.
But for the most part, the restof the country, the best thing
we can do is cut, doe and pushit back down and let the States
(53:32):
run it Right.
I'm sorry.
I think that's the best option.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, yeah, no argument for me.
I'm with you and you know II've said many times by um, you
know, dislike of the publiceducation system, and it's for
all the reasons that we werejust talking about, you know,
and maybe with getting rid ofthe Board of Education, then,
you know, maybe some changeswill take place that you know,
the parents have beenessentially kicked out of
(53:56):
involvement with the educatingof their children.
They're expected to just handthem over, leave them with these
people for eight hours a dayplus because after school,
curriculums and everything, andthen they're being told that
they have no say and it's noneof their business.
So you know, that's where myreal problem with public
education comes in.
(54:17):
If somebody told me that it wasnone of my business what my kid
was doing in school, what theywere teaching them, and that
they could keep secrets from meas a parent about my child and
indoctrinate them into, you know, whatever their agenda is, it's
a hard pass for me.
So hopefully we're going to seea lot of changes there.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, I think there's a.
You know it's a multifacetedproblem.
Teachers don't get paid enough.
We all know that, right, I mean, it is the most it is probably,
you know, next to the military,or, you know, military cops,
teachers, firefighters none ofthem get paid enough to do what
they do None, and that's atravesty.
So that's probably one thingthat needs to be fixed.
But at the same time, what yousaid is true in a lot of school
(54:58):
districts where it's like listen, we're the experts, we know and
this is, you know, comes out ofa lot of the unions we're the
experts, we know how to educateyour kid, don't tell us how to
do it.
Okay, so that's oneContradictory or in
contradiction to that.
They will also tell you we'renot a babysitter, right, we're
not here to babysit, they'reyour kids.
(55:20):
We're not here to babysit, okay.
Well, it's one way or the other.
Either you want me involved oryou don't want me involved.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, which one is it Right.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
You don't want me involved when it comes to you
know what's in the curriculum,right, what your child is being
taught and told outside of youreyes.
But at the same time, you dowant me involved so that you can
, you know, minimize your workand effort outside of school
hours.
You know, and oh, by the way,you know, you just want kids to
show up and behave, right.
So there's a lot of levels tothe school issue, but I will
(55:54):
tell you that in the mix of allthat, there are really, really
awesome school districts.
Listen, folks, we're notattacking every school district
in the country.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
No, we're attacking the system, the parent system of
public schools and I feel forso many wonderful teachers out
there that kind of have theirhands tied and they have to toe
the line and follow, you know,whatever is passed down the pipe
to them and so many of themdisagree with it fundamentally
(56:24):
but it's like what are theygoing to do?
You know what are they going todo.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
So when I was substitute teaching and I think
you and I talked about this Iwould have closet conservative
teachers come up to me in thehallway and go hey, your podcast
with Elsa was awesome.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yes, because they didn't want to say it out loud.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
They didn't want to say it out loud.
They didn't want to be peggedas conservative.
They didn't want to be.
You know, and a lot of teachersdon't verbally disagree with
administrations for a lot ofreasons, job security being one
of them, yeah.
So you know, a lot of them arein a tough spot and I don't envy
them.
It's one of the things that Iand I miss a lot of things about
teaching.
I did enjoy my time as afull-time sub, but that's not
(57:06):
one of the things I miss.
So you know, all you teachersout there, we love you, we feel
for you, but I do believe in myheart of hearts that getting rid
of the DOE is the best move.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
Everything will work out.
There will be a.
I'm sure there already is a newplan in place.
You know what I mean.
They're not going to take onething away without having
something else to replace it,and I think that's always the
big fear.
I just spoke to the sweetestwoman the other day and she's a
conservative.
She voted for Trump, she lovesTrump, but she was so upset
because her, her liberal friendswere wagging their bony fingers
(57:34):
in her face saying well, I hopeyou're happy now he's taken
away cancer research funding.
And as soon as she said I'mlike hang on, hang on, hang on,
give me a minute.
I haven't heard anything aboutthis.
It took me, like you know, 30seconds in a search to find out
the truth.
And you know, and the realityis, federally, so many things
are getting frozen.
Right now it's the assessmenttime.
(57:55):
This is the audit time.
We're looking for ways andmaking sure that the money that
you say is going here is reallygoing here, you know.
So just I told her, I said justhang tight, deep breath.
If he takes it away from onearea, it's coming from another
spot.
You're not going to and it'sprobably going to be better than
ever, because you have toremember that historically, here
(58:17):
we have a government and asystem that does not want you to
get healthy, they don't want tocure cancer.
So we're entering a new erahere.
I believe in my heart.
We're entering a new era wherethey actually want to cure
things, they actually want youto be healthy and all of those
things.
So she was she left veryrelieved and I better be right,
because I'm in trouble.
She can't come get me if I'mwrong.
Speaker 3 (58:40):
I don't even know if we hit all the topics we were
planning on hitting.
We didn't.
We didn't get a lot of stuff,but we're out of time.
We're out of time.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
We're out of time.
We're out of time, we're out oftime.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Listen, if it's still relevant next week, we'll cover
it next week.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yes, Exactly Probably will.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
Exactly yeah.
It'll be all ongoing right,we're going to talk about we'll
pick that up next week.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Exactly.
It'll still be going on.
We'll probably have even morefun stuff to talk about with
that, so looking forward to it.
Oh, guys, we thank you forjoining us.
As always, it's always a blastwith you, clay, and hanging out
with you guys, and we lookforward to chatting with you in
the comments section.
All of that good stuff.
And Clay, you know the deal youclose them out.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
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Speaker 2 (59:43):
Take care guys.
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Yeah, they swore in at the White House.
So we have a DNI.
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
No doubt.
So we've got that and a ton ofstuff to talk about, right.
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As usual.
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Oh, I don't know, Clay.
Should we start off by raisinga toast to some new friends that
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(03:02):
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Speaker 2 (03:43):
Super grateful.
We are incredibly grateful.
It was so sweet of them to sendus all this good stuff.
These mugs are amazing.
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They sent several, but, likeyou know, I don't know.
Am I weird?
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So I have that same mug and it was a weird, they
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Speaker 2 (04:09):
Oh, it's yeah Right.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Not, it's a heavy ceramic super mug.
Awesome, that was definitelyworthy of being the favorite.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Heck, yeah, heck yeah , all right.
What do we got for tapas here?
Let's see.
Okay, well, let's start offright off, right off the bat.
Let right, what do we got fortapas here?
Let's see.
Okay, well, let's start offright, right off the bat.
Let's let's just go over thisnow.
A confession did not watch asingle second, not even
commercials.
I had to get all of my infowhen I was doing my show prep
and outlining for the show.
I'm like all right, whathappened with this thing?
I knew, I knew the mostimportant thing, which was that
(04:39):
president trump was the firstsitting president to ever attend
a Super Bowl game and he cameout to wild cheers.
I understand.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yes, and that really surprised me that he's the first
ever sitting president.
And yes, the reaction in thestadium was massive.
You know there, of course, werethe typical celebrity reviews
were mixed.
You know there were some.
You know there, of course, werethe typical celebrity reviews
were mixed.
You know there were some.
You know Cardi B not thatanybody really cares was very
(05:11):
outspoken about Somehow hershoes got messed up and somehow
it was the Secret Service andPresident Trump's fault.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't know, stupid.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But yeah, he was a huge hit and he was.
The Secret Service had to havebeen losing their mind because
he was down on the field.
He was interacting with fans.
He was interacting with peoplewhich you know, for them is a
security nightmare, absolutely.
But that's him.
That's who he is and he's nevergoing to change.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
He's never going to.
He's.
He's never going to Listen.
He is a human being and I'msure he thinks about it,
obviously and of course, buthe's never going to be the guy
that lets fear stop him fromdoing what he he wants to do,
and I love that about him.
It makes me so anxious, but youknow, I mean really, really
anxious, along with every, everyother Trump supporter and Trump
(05:57):
administration supporter.
It's like, oh, please, don't doanything to derail this in any
possible way.
But, but yes, everything waswonderful.
Did he only stay through halftime?
Did he leave?
Did I read something that hedidn't say?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I don't know for sure .
I would imagine that it was notfor the duration of the game,
because the game got reallyboring.
He's got their ass handed tohim.
Taylor Swift got booed, whichyou know.
Listen, I listen, it is what itis.
I know she's not a Trumpsupporter, Right, I know.
So there was a little bit ofreaction.
(06:30):
It was a very, you know, kindof Yang versus Yang reaction.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, it made me feel a little icky hearing about
that it's totally unnecessary,but it is what it is.
It is what it is it's a rowdycrowd.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But the game got boring.
Eagles went up pretty handilyand then if President Trump left
for probably smart securityreasons, it would make total
sense.
And also the game was boring.
I know the Chiefs ended upscoring some points near the end
, but for the most part it was asnooze fest.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, I said to my husband you know he was coming
in and out and giving me likelittle updates on what was going
on, cause we used to lovewatching football.
That was our, that was ourSundays.
It was it was a production.
Every Sunday I would make foodfor like basically enough to
feed the whole neighborhood.
You know, we'd have our jerseyson.
You know the whole works and itwas so much fun.
And then they went and ruinedit and you know, so that was
that for me and I hold, I hold agrudge, I guess, and yeah, and,
(07:22):
and I hold a grudge?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I guess yeah, and you know the NFL continues to take
missteps.
I know they're trying to cleanthings up a little bit.
In the advertising there was adefinite in the trends in the
commercials.
There was a definite trend forpharmaceutical and big health
companies to reimage themselvesA lot of fight cancer and some
(07:46):
other things.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So, like the big pharma image is trying to be
reworked right now, which is agood thing.
Do it while they can right,Because if RFK Jr gets his way,
all done.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But you know, the halftime show, I think just
general consensus I think wasnot a success for a number of
reasons.
You know, I know that thepredominance of the NFL audience
is male and I know thepredominance of that audience is
younger males.
So Kendrick Lamar, you know avery long, crazy long halftime
(08:26):
show of rap.
I don't think that personallyit was.
I know a lot of people had ahard time understanding him and
I think that was me personally.
I think it was more about thesound than it was about like the
quality of the audio was theissue?
Not necessarily about that's mepersonally.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, you think I'm perfect by now.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, well, you know, every time you're in a stadium
and you know crowd noise and allthat stuff, it's, it's
different.
But uh, you know, they had someserena williams popped in there
.
That was a little bitcontroversial and the fact that
I guess and I don't reallyfollow the rapper hip-hop scene,
but uh, I know shocking.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's not your jam that's not your jam, I don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I I just, you know, i's some some of it I do like,
but he's not one of them.
So but I guess he was, you know, singing some song about Drake
and it was some sort of thischat, whatever, and I guess
there was.
I'm sure you do.
There was some sort ofrelationship between him and
Serena Williams.
So she decided to, you know,get on stage, and I know that
there's been a lot of commentaryabout that, including stage,
(09:23):
and I know that there's been alot of commentary about that,
including Stephen A Smith, whois a little kind of all over the
map right now, but his take onher appearance was listen, if
I'm your husband and you'restepping away from me to go
stand on a stage to talk trashabout a guy that you used to
date years ago, then you arefocusing way too much on
somebody who's not your husband.
(09:43):
That was the short version ofwhat he said, and so there was a
lot of back and forth aboutthat.
I didn't personally enjoy thehalftime show, but I couldn't
understand anything he wassaying while he was rapping, so
it was very I caught the clip.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I caught the clips, you know, after, like everybody
else, and I like his littledance, that he did.
I like that Totally.
No, it did that little danceand you know I had that little
moment and of course, so thoseof you who even give like half a
care, they you know.
So the rap world has become orsimply is what it's.
(10:18):
I liken it to like wrestling,you know how it's like a soap
opera.
It's a soap opera.
They have this whole big soapopera drama going on.
They have this there's beefbetween Kendrick Lamar.
I'm pointing over here becauseI have my notes there.
Nobody knows why I pointed overthere.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's right here.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
He's right here.
Hey, kendrick, yeah, and Drake,as you said, they've got this
big beef and I and I believe Iunderstand they've got this big
beef and I and I believe Iunderstand that they keep doing
these.
You know songs, or rap songs,dissing each other.
It's so funny for me to say theword dis, isn't?
It sounds funny to me?
Um, but yes, I'm using thatword and I guess, from what I
understand.
(10:58):
So Kendrick Lamar has a songout called not like us, which is
the one I'm actually referringto, that he did that little
dance to, I think, and he sayssomething right to the camera
which I've already forgottenwhat he said, but it was a
direct hit at Drake.
And the fascinating what makesit fascinating, at least vaguely
, is that I guess they have thesame record label and Drake is
suing his own record labelbecause they released that song
(11:22):
which is about him and reallytrashes him bad, like very bad,
from what I understand.
So that's the drama with that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
That sounds like good business by that record label
is what that's right Business bythem, absolutely.
So yes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I guess they didn't want him to sing that song and
obviously he did it anyway.
So who knows what therepercussions will be from that?
And yes, I know, guys, it'sgoing to be in the comments.
Who cares?
Nobody really cares.
It's just a topic, it's just athing that it's.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's the super bowl, um, and I know you know, for for
America and America, it is thesingle greatest sporting event
of the year.
So I mean you can't go withoutus, and we had the, you know,
president Trump showed up, soit's not like we can ignore it,
folks.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean you know, yes, now in my research, I saw that
Joe Biden was there as well.
Did you hear that I did?
not hear that.
That's what it's.
That's what this article said Iwas reading.
I went to People magazine, ofall places, to read what they
were saying because they hadlike they claimed to have the
full recap said she was there.
(12:26):
So go figure, um, who else?
Oh, I know what I wanted to askyou about.
Now, I have not looked up anyof the commercials.
Normally I would.
Normally I would like go lookat, you know, scroll through all
the commercials that theyplayed.
Uh, there was a lot of talkabout elon doing a commercial.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
That did not happen, correct, so that was not in the,
not in what everybody wasexpecting.
What everybody was expecting,what the rumor was, was that he
was going to, he had paid, youknow, for four or five spots,
and that he was going to usethose to like, have the doge
running clock like how muchmoney they've recovered, which
didn't happen.
Um, I will tell you, though,that one of the spots that
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really I don't know if t-mobilepaid for it or Starlink paid for
it, but that was, to me, Ithink, probably the biggest news
out of the Superbowl was thatT-Mobile and Starlink have now
partnered up.
So where there is no cell towercoverage, t-mobile now has
satellites, has Starlinktechnology cell phones.
So, your regular cell phone, myregular cell phone right,
(13:26):
you're not a cell, not a satphone, but if you're in a place
where there is no cell coverage,they're providing satellite
coverage, and it is available toevery carrier, including AT&T
and Verizon, until July to tryout.
But this is like a.
This has the potential forcertain markets, and I'm talking
(13:46):
about those quote, unquoteflyover states where cell phone
coverage is not the greatest andthey're probably still running
a lot of 4G, if anything else.
But when you're out in themiddle of nowhere, you will
still have cell coverage throughsatellite, through Starlink, so
that's an Elon touch within theSuper Bowl itself.
You know Budweiser tried.
(14:08):
You know they had a decentcommercial.
It's not one of their best ones.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, huh.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, still Clydesdale, still cute, nothing
groundbreaking.
There was a, I think Jeep did a, you know last year I heard
Jeep was yeah.
It's Springsteen a couple ofyears ago, yeah, and then this
year it was Harrison Ford.
So they're kind of, you know,the nostalgia, america American.
So that was another one.
(14:34):
But no, overall I was, you know, mostly unimpressed with the
commercial lineup, and really Iwas.
I was hoping for that, the Eloncommercials commercials too,
and they just never happened.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
They didn't happen.
The only one that I heard thatwas well, they always and I
think they've run it for acouple, couple of few years now
the he gets us commercials, theyou know one is supposed to be
faith-based and the Christiansget all up in arms about it
because it's just not not acorrect representation of of
Jesus and all of that stuff.
I heard about that one.
(15:06):
I haven't watched any of them.
But the other one that I heardand maybe you know more than
well, you probably know morethan I do on this one, kanye
West spent like 4 million orsomething on a commercial and it
took everybody to a link wherehe was selling swastika t-shirts
.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I heard about the t-shirts.
I don't know about thecommercial with a link where he
was selling swastika t-shirts.
Is that correct?
I heard about the t-shirts.
I don't know about thecommercial with a link.
It would not surprise me.
You know, people have done theQR code commercial for the last
couple of years, so I do knowabout the t-shirts.
I do know that he has a website, or had a website, and the only
thing that was being sold was awhite t-shirt with a black
swastika on it.
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I know that the product code isHH01, which is supposedly for
Heil Hitler.
Right, you know this is a.
You know the guy's got someissues, we all know that and I
think this was an attempt atlike freedom of speech is
freedom of speech even if youdon't like what I'm saying,
right?
Or it is a freedom of speechkind of thing.
There's the argument on whetheror not a swastika is hate
speech and you know whether itshould be allowed, and those
(16:16):
kinds of things.
So shock value in typical Kanyefashion.
But I don't know.
I don't know for a fact thatthat was linked to a commercial.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, yeah, I don't really know.
I read it.
Don't know the accuracy of it,because we can't believe
everything we hear.
Let's see what else I'm tryingto see.
I think that's it.
That's kind of it on that,nothing else.
Who else performed LaurenDaigle?
Who's a?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
great rendition of America, the Beautiful yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I heard that was really cool.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
What's his name?
Trombone Shorty.
Yeah, he played with her, sothat was a great, you know great
opener.
You know the National Anthem.
I can't even remember the guy'sname.
Yeah, I think it was like JohnBaptiste or something like that
(17:05):
he interpreted it.
I'm a traditionalist.
I would rather have somebodyjust sing it the way it was
written Minimal deviation.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Actually, I don't like whenthey kind of go off the rails on
it.
But Chris Stapleton is probablymy favorite.
Maybe between him and was itWhitney Houston?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, she's the GOAT.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's probably the absolute best.
And then for me, next in line Ithink would be Chris Stapleton.
I still got I get chills justjust thinking about it.
His voice, man, oh my goodness,but yeah so.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
President Trump did also meet with many of the
victims from New Orleans, fromNew Year's Day, which he said
one of his primary, if not hisprimary reason for going.
They brought them together,which I thought was great, you
know.
So he took advantage of thatopportunity to stop and talk
with those folks and see them.
So, in typical President Trumpfashion, you know he turned it
(17:58):
into, you know, even if it wascontroversial, he turned it into
something great.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah absolutely .
Yep, I love that.
Let's see.
Let's go back to what we openedthe show with.
Let's talk about theseconfirmation updates Tulsi, yeah
, baby yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, confirmed 52-48 .
My understanding is the onlyRepublican that did not vote for
her.
Surprise, surprise wascconnell.
Yeah, um, who yeah no surprise,no surprise, um.
There was evidently a lastditch effort by um I don't
(18:33):
remember his name from virginia.
He's been on the uhintelligence committee since
2011.
I'm drawing a blank on his name, but he tried to give some, you
know, last ditch speech beforethe vote to try and convince
people.
Basically called herirresponsible, wasn't up to task
, didn't have the qualifications, blah blah blah blah blah.
(18:55):
Schumer went on his little ranttoo, and I guess Tom Cotton and
Vice President Vance were theones who rallied the troops to
get her over 50.
They did some campaigning onher behalf, so they got her
52-48.
Did not need to involve thevice president this time, which
is good, yeah.
And so she got through.
And then, as soon as she gotthrough, she got sworn in and
(19:17):
I'm sure she's at work Right.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, I guarantee, right off the work, that seems
to be the pattern.
They right after work, thatseems to be the pattern.
They are all workhorses, man.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Every single one of them has just hit the ground.
Did you see, pete Hedges?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
on Monday morning.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yes, so we'll talk about his flight on Sunday and
the act he took in just a minuteor two, but he flew to Europe.
So he flew to Europe over theweekend and I think it was
Monday morning.
He got up and did PT with 1stBattalion, 10th Special Forces
Group.
Yeah, and he's a rock star fordoing it Right, everybody.
(19:50):
We've never had a sec def who'sdone this and it's the reality.
We've never had a sec def whocould who could even yes, so
true.
So you know it's good on him.
You know, see the four-starstanding behind him, but I would
imagine it was the US commanderof Europe or somebody like that
(20:11):
Europe and Africa, whoever thefour-star is now.
But he was talking to the pressand he said, hey, this gives me
an opportunity to.
Or he said what he started outwith was, hey, no offense
General, but I'm probably closerto, or I'm more relatable to,
the group of guys that I did ptwith than I am to the four-star
generals and this gives me anopportunity to talk to them.
(20:34):
You know, as I go and talk tothese four stars.
So you know he's trying to.
He's trying, he's doing whatgood leaders do.
He's trying to bridge the gapbetween, you know, the executor
and, uh, the policymaker, andand good on him.
So, but you're right, he'sanother.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He's another workhorse, just like he's gonna
be yeah, absolutely every singlepan bondi everybody, every
single one of them he was doingconstruction work today.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Did you see that?
did not see that reallypersonally took down photographs
of uh, the chain of command,photographs of President Biden,
vice President Harris and, likeshe was in DOJ, like herself
removing them.
Yeah, same thing, doing allthat, doing all that.
You know, it's a lot of PR,it's a lot of image, but it's
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also a lot of message sending.
It's a lot of messaging to thefolks that work for them that
this is some serious stuff, butit's also a lot of message
sending.
It's a lot of messaging to thefolks that work for them that
this is some serious stuff.
I saw you posted on Facebook, Ithink, before we started
recording about your buddy, theguy I think you're rooting for
more than anybody Rooting forhim hard Junior.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, yep, junior, bobby, bobby, junior, yes, so he
moves on to the next phase.
Now I saw on x, of course, um,that according to this whole, uh
, every single one of them thatwe're waiting on is pretty much
guaranteed to get confirmed.
(21:56):
So I don't, I don't, honestly,I don't know what the basis is
for that.
I know it.
It seemed to be a prettyreputable and reputable, sorry
and reliable page.
I saved it, but it's not uphere right now.
So, yes, come on, guys, youknow, go, go look it up.
I can see I get crotchety withthat because it's like, you know
(22:17):
, that's, that's what they do onthe left when they're too lazy
to go look things up themselves.
I'm not calling our guys lazy,I'm just saying you know I get
agitated when people are likewell, can you write your sources
?
Go look at it.
If you don't believe me, golook.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Google, google it.
It's not like you put the DeweyDecimal System in a card
catalog in the library.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Come on, guys, it's nice and easy.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And just think of the joy you'll get if you get to
come back back and say you werewrong.
Oh, but yeah, so up to finalvote.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So his confirmation vote is is it tomorrow?
Do we think?
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think um late tomorrow.
Yeah, I think it's latetomorrow, which will be um
essentially while we're well.
We should know collectively.
We should maybe know whilewe're on air tomorrow.
Yeah, it should have alreadybeen decided so we can chat
about it all in the commentsthat um that spot on x.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
They're confident that kosh is gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They're confident, yeah, they were they were um,
they were, they were confident.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So yeah, I guess they go by like these betting sites
that's.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I did that during the election, did you?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
oh yeah, we did talk about that, you're right yeah,
that's the most accurate.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That gets doesn't lose like right.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, so it makes sense, so that's good.
I that that makes me feel good,very happy.
Um, yes, I.
You know people are gonna thinkI have a crush on bobby jr
there.
I really don't, um, I just Ihave a crush on what, what I
expect him to do with his role,with his position.
You know, the more I read, Ijust I just shared something or
(23:52):
maybe I, maybe I scheduled it toshare about you know, people
always say things like you know,when you tell them, well, don't
eat that, it's full of crap,it's garbage, don't drink that,
it's pure garbage, and they sayI drank that as a kid, it's fine
, it's like no, you didn't, it'snot the same thing what you
drink as a kid.
Like the example um, you guyswill see it tomorrow in my um on
(24:13):
Facebook, uh, but the examplewas Gatorade, of all things.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Right, it's a great it's a great example.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, the glass bottles, right.
Yeah, it used to be glassbottles.
And maybe, maybe, half a dozeningredients, right.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's like four.
It's like four yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, and now it's probably like minimum of a yeah,
exactly, exactly, and thingsyou cannot pronounce and the
plastic, and you know, oh well,don't get me started, I'll go on
the tirade.
But, yes, you know, so, yeah,so I'm'm very hopeful and I
don't want to hear and one ofthe biggest things I'll tell you
, and I'll be all over itposting about it if I don't see
(24:49):
things happening as fast aswe're seeing these other things
happen.
You know, for the example, thatred dye number three 30 years
they knew that it had cancercausing agents.
30 years they waited and then,a hot minute before they think
he's coming in, they're like, oh, we're banning that.
However, manufacturers get touse it, um, for another two
(25:12):
years, two years before theyhave to.
No, I want it gone immediately.
And yes, I know all my like.
You know, smart people aregonna be like well, you know,
you have to understand theproduction cost of things.
I don't care, I don't care,figure it out.
You've had plenty of time tofigure, don't care, I don't care
, figure it out.
You've had plenty of time tofigure this out.
They used to do it.
You can do it again, don't?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
dye it.
Yeah, that's all.
Don't use it Like if the redSkittles just come out white,
fine, and I'm not saying redSkittles has that dye color in
it, but you know what I mean,like Fruit Loops or whatever it
is.
Just don't use the dye Likewe'll be okay for a little while
until you come up with ahealthy replacement.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Fruit Loops was a great example actually, because
there's an Aldi's brand orAldi's brand doesn't have it in
there, it doesn't have the dye.
So plenty of people are doingit.
You can do it too, and don't goraising the prices of
everything on it just becauseyou took out stuff.
That's the biggest bracket.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All the cereal companies sell these same things
in Canada and they don't haveany of those ingredients.
So they have the capability,they just don't want to.
And so yeah, go without for awhile, we'll be OK.
Nobody's going to forget whatred Froot Loops look like.
It's just fine, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And I don't think anybody's going to sit there a
few years from now and go gosh,remember when Froot Loops had
that great red color.
Nobody would care, right?
Nobody is going to sit thereand have nostalgia over red
Froot Lo loops, so just stop itimmediately.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
On the flip side.
Yeah, be a little bit nostalgic.
Do you remember like Pepsiclear?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I do.
That was like.
When was that, though?
How long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
A long time ago, so they tried it too, but they but
Pepsi tried clear, so no, Iforgot coloring and it was.
You know.
Know, I won't say it was acolossal, you know failure, but
it yeah, we don't have itanymore no, that tells, you.
Yeah, you know based on pastprecedents that if we don't put
colors in it then people won'tbuy it right?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
yeah, yeah, it's all about, you know, or at least
under the guise of aestheticsand making things look appealing
and and you know all of thosethings.
I certainly get that.
You know, I, I was raised my,my grandmother always, you know,
we, my grandmother always madebeautiful, amazing food, but she
always plated everything niceand she, you know.
(27:28):
So it was ingrained in my headthat your food should look
beautiful.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You eat with your eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You do exactly, so I totally understand it.
However, I think we are in sucha different place Um
knowledge-wise than we were backthen when they did the Pepsi
clear and tried that.
Now you know, we would welcomethat, I think.
I don't know, I don't drinksoda, so, but I would think that
, knowing what we know now, ifit's still tastes the same and
(27:55):
it's better for me, I mean, it'sa win-win right there, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
So we're still waiting on Kosh, which I
personally believe is going tobe even more of a fight than RFK
, and I say that because there'smore to protect and hide.
Yes, so I think he will be theone who will be the most uphill
battle.
I hope that one resolves itselfquickly and he can get in there
and start breaking stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
He said, he said day one list is released.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So they just?
I just saw a press conference.
They have what was her name.
They just appointed a lady.
They just appointed a lady Ithink she falls under Department
(28:52):
of Justice who is going toinvestigate and release the
documents for JF files andsomething else.
But it's all the conspiracytheory stuff on the Epstein list
, right?
All the things that are goingto come out.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
She just got put into this position, right, she's got
a long name.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I saw that.
I saw that.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
They're just going to keep breaking stuff, and I'm
all for it.
And I know there's a lot ofpeople you know I had been
sparring with people for thelast two weeks about, you know.
Well, you know it started outwith the nobody elected Elon and
now it's the like this is beingdone.
You know swipe of a penexecutive branch.
You know there's no oversight,this and that, and you know my
(29:31):
question to them remains thesame Did you complain this loud
for the last four years?
Because if you didn't?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't want to hear it.
Did you complain about Obamarunning a shadow governor?
George Soros?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I bring up Soros all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Did you complain about Kamala Harris not being
voted on to run for president?
Did you complain about Faucirunning the show and telling
everybody you know they had toget back to eat it?
Just shut up already.
Nobody cares, nobody'slistening and you know, half the
time we're actually laughing atyou as you stomp your feet and
(30:07):
hold your breath and you know,foam at the mouth, so cry more.
So that's going to be the nextT-shirt I put out Cry more, cry
more.
I like that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
That's coming out.
You heard it first, guys, it'scoming out.
So we talked about SecretaryHegseth breaking stuff.
I think he fixed something.
He did he did.
It's close to home for me.
I'm not shy about this.
Fort Bragg, you know, was my,was my army home for many, many
years.
I've got, you know, mymemorabilia is on my wall.
I was, you know, in the 82ndAirborne Division for most of my
(30:43):
deployments and that it, youknow.
When they renamed Fort Bragg, Iwas, I was adamant that it was
absolute garbage or Liberty.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Is that what they?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
they named it Liberty and there's a lot most people
don't know.
The reasoning behind it'sactually one of the worst
received renaming of the eightbases that got renamed because
it wasn't a person.
I do know the story behind itand because there's such a
confluence of special operationsand airborne you know the 82nd,
they didn't want to pick oneperson and then potentially
(31:15):
alienating the other community.
So pick a special operator andthe regular 82nd guys were like
hey, you know, or vice versa,which I think was you know.
I don't think it was soundreasoning, but that was the, the
fear.
So the reason they went withLiberty is because the word
Liberty is, you know, in the82nd airborne division song and
all the paratroopers out thereknow the song.
(31:36):
So you know the word liberty isin the song and you know the
Latin motto of Special Forces isDeo presso liber, which is free
, the oppressed right, and liberin Latin obviously means
liberty.
So they thought it was a goodbalance to touch, to use that
word.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
They were wrong.
They were very wrong.
It was terrible.
But so in a C-17 US Air Forceaircraft on his way to Europe
over the weekend, secretaryHicks renamed yet again Fort
Bragg back to Fort Bragg in avery, very barracks lawyer
loophole Amazing, swift,brilliant move.
Barracks lawyer loopholeamazing, swift, brilliant move.
(32:16):
Not name it after GeneralConfederate General Braxton
Bragg, who it was originallynamed after.
Right, and that's what all thehub was about was because of the
war, right, yes, Yep.
What they found was from WorldWar II a young private, first
class Roland.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Bragg, roland Bragg.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, class, roland Bragg signed to the 513th
Parachute Infantry Regiment,17th Airborne Division, assigned
to 18th Airborne Corps, whichresides at Fort Bragg, received
the Silver Star.
For you know gallantry andaction, you know valor and all
those things.
He got shot.
Right, yeah, he got wounded inthe Battle of the bulge, stole a
(32:55):
german ambulance right soclearly.
Like you know, yeah, wentsomewhere beyond there.
Yes, german ambulance came back,picked up a bunch of other
wounded guys and then drove agerman vehicle backwards through
us lines to a hospital, killeda million times over, received
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the Silver Star and the PurpleHeart for his actions.
So Fort Bragg is now namedafter PFC Roland Bragg.
Now, I love it.
I think it's great.
I wrote a blog about it.
It's out there.
I think you know the name Bragg.
Fort Bragg is synonymous with alot of things in the Army, and
specifically that thatinstallation has the most unit
(33:40):
pride in the esprit de corps ofany Army installation you'll
ever go to and you'll neverconvince me otherwise, and if
anybody you know any Armyveteran is honest with
themselves, they'll agree.
So, unfortunately, though, Idon't think the other bases will
have the same kind of luckfinding a valorous award winner
(34:00):
with the same name on theirrolls that they can rename the
installation after.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It won't be for lack of trying, though I'm sure
they're going to.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm sure there's a lot of a lot of history, you
know, research going on rightnow, but you know, I think it's
a great move.
A lot of people will say it hasnothing to do with war fighting
, which is one of the thingsthat secretary Hegseth, you know
, said that he was going tofocus on.
People will say it was caught,it's costly.
People say it's a, you know, awaste of time or whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
We got a lot of money getting saved in other areas.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
One, we are saving a lot of money too.
It's his budget as the SECRight.
And three, you can't put aprice tag on camaraderie, esprit
de corps, and you know, unitpride, yeah so, and that stuff
all matters in war fighting.
And you know, in the blog Iwrote I said you know the Marine
Corps has cornered the marketon being proud of who they are.
Nobody's better at it than theMarines are, period.
So go find a Marine, tell themthat you know it's not important
(35:00):
to be called a Marine and thatthey're going to change the name
of the Marine Corps tosomething else, and you'll watch
them froth at the mouth.
I'm married to one of those.
You can't even joke about that.
My baseball hat will get thrown.
Their Marine Corps polo willcome off and they'll try and
fight.
It matters that stuff mattersin war, fighting folks it really
(35:21):
really does.
So I think this is a great move.
I think it was a little, youknow, slick move Um, but I I'm
super happy about it and youknow people may think my
priorities are messed up but Ireally don't care.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, who cares?
Cry more, cry more See we'regoing to have plenty of
opportunities to use that, andyou know side note, and it's a
really great side note becausewe have talked about this
several times over the pastcouple of years about army
enrollments and guess what.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Exploded.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yes, exploded.
Yes, since the election.
Yes, it's loaded.
How exciting.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yes, Since the election.
Yes, december was a massivemonth and then January beat
December, set an all-time recordfor enlistments.
They met their goals for thefirst time in a couple of years,
and it's all since the election.
So if you think the Trumpeffect and Hegzeth truthfully,
if you think that that you knowit doesn't matter to our defense
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it does matter.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It absolutely matters , yeah, and this is just a, you
know, another example of therestoration of American pride
and love of this country and itis so exciting to see, makes me
so happy.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, and, and some of it is policy change, some of
it is, listen, we're not goingto sacrifice the goods of the
many for a few.
You know everybody talks about,you know, the right to serve
and all these other things asAmerican citizens, but at the
same and listen, the militaryhas been a social experiment for
decades.
Racial equality started in themilitary well before it started
(36:56):
anywhere else.
And, and you know, same thing,right, you know, equal
opportunities for women and allkinds of things were accelerated
within the military.
But we took some missteps andit and it affected enlistments,
it affected retention, and sothey're they're rolling some of
that back and a lot of it is.
You know, I, you know to focuson the trans thing, but you know
(37:20):
they've said it, we're notdoing operations anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Right, which is mind blowing to me, that they were in
the first place.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, I, I know you and I talked about this once
before and I'll lay it out again.
So if, if you were to do a fouryear enlistment and and you're
you know you were going totransition, right?
So you would enlist, you wouldgo through basic training and
AIT and as soon as you wouldcome out of that you would go
into the counseling phase ofthese things.
You would go for a consult,just like you would normally a
(37:48):
medical consult, psychologicalconsult.
They would start you on the um,all of the uh medications that
the hormone replacement would gointo a preoperational status,
which would make you immediatelynon-deployable, right, okay.
Then once you got in you know,so far in your hormone, and then
(38:09):
you got into the to thephysical operation right,
surgical portion of this.
You would go through thesurgery, you would go through
your transition.
You would go through a 12 to 18month physical recovery, the
entire time non-deployable, andthen, by the time you are
deployable, you have less than ayear left in your timeline,
your service timeline, and youcan't be deployed anyway.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I was going to say how can you even be deployed?
Because the treatments you haveto be on, the medications you
have to be on, are lifelong.
So if you can't get, access.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
There was always discussion about being able to
give that in theater if theyneeded to.
But if you were only going todo one enlistment like you,
literally the Army paid for youto transition, or the Navy or
the Air Force or whoever, andyou have done none of your
wartime job Right.
So they've stopped doing that,it's off the table, and I think
(38:59):
that those are the.
Those are the types of policymoves that are appealing to more
people and getting them to notonly join but to stay in.
So I think you're going to seenot only enlistment numbers go
up, but retention numbers aswell.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I love it.
I love it.
It's just common sense.
Good old return to common sense.
It's such a beautiful thing andso bizarre that it's something
you need to come back to and notjust simply have.
But we all know where we werefor the past four years, plus
you know um.
What else have we got?
I don't see anything to segue.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I do Common sense.
Two cents Common sense segue.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Common sense.
Two cents, that's right.
Where's my?
Where's my banner?
There it is.
Yeah, it costs us two cents tomake a one cent coin and
president Trump said we're notdoing it anymore.
Now, these are things I had noknowledge of.
When I read that, I'm like whatYep Talk about illogic, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
And and so there's been a number of movements in
the last probably 15 years tostop this.
In fact, he's getting a lot ofbipartisan support on this
because it doesn't make sense atall the value of the penny at
one cent and two cents to make.
So it's, it's a loss andobviously President Trump, being
financial guy, was like this isthe dumbest thing ever.
(40:16):
So silly, right.
So he's not taking it out ofcirculation.
People, the pennies are notgoing away.
The only move he has made sofar is he has told the mint you
know whoever that is under theTreasury Department stop making
new pennies.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
No more new pennies, so go out.
That was my big question, clay.
I'm like gosh.
I feel like such a dum-dumasking this, but what happens to
all the pennies that peoplehave in their jars and save up?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
They're still legal tender.
Yeah, so that never stops.
No, we haven't made.
You know we haven't made.
Not that you know it's a dollar, but, like Susan B Anthony,
dollars haven't made in years.
They're still legal tender.
Kennedy, half dollars, samething, right, right, the pennies
are still viable.
We're just not making any moreof them.
So you know it's.
(41:04):
You know there's a couple ofgood memes out there where how
useless the penny is.
You know, like electricianshave figured out that washers
are like eight cents.
So what you know, jokingly,what some of them have started
doing is drilling holes inpennies because they make a two
cent washer.
There, you go yeah, right andreally so, but president Trump
did that on super bowl Sunday aswell.
He's like, yeah, we're notdoing this.
(41:24):
So what about the?
What about the nostalgia piece?
I mean we're you know it'scommonsensical, but does it
bother you that we won't have apenny anymore?
Should we replace it withsomething else?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Again something I will never think about outside
of this moment right now.
You know what I mean.
Like I'll see, I don't know.
I mean, I think all of us who,for as long as we're of the, you
know old enough to rememberYou're right We'll be like oh
yeah, pennies, that was a thing.
And then, oh yeah, pennies,that was a thing.
(41:57):
And then the you know, like mygrandkids, would be like what's
this funny looking thing, whatdo you do with this?
You know, I mean whatever, whocares?
If it's going to save us money,if it's going to eliminate
waste, if it's going to bepractical, I'll, you know, I'm
good with having a moment of oh,pennies, it's not going to
happen.
Use them for jewelry orsomething.
I've seen videos.
I've seen those DIY videos.
(42:18):
People have actually used themin floors and they put like an
epoxy over.
It looks gorgeous.
It's the most fascinating thing, to me, at least.
Yeah, so I mean plenty of usesfor your pennies, and I mean,
you know, like you said, though,there's still, it's still use
them, but if you don't want to,let's be a decrease in some
fantastic practical jokes.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
I saw a guy.
This was probably maybe threeor four years ago.
He was a divorced guy somewherein the Midwest and his ex-wife
was giving him a hard time andthere was an argument about
alimony.
It was like fine.
So he paid her alimony inpennies, with a dump truck and a
wheelbarrow in her driveway.
Thousands of dollars of penniesin a pile in her driveway.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh, there was another one too.
Somebody brought them into abank.
They had to like they were.
I don't know.
I think they were harassing himover something.
Maybe it wasn't a bank, maybeit was like some business or
something that was harassing himover a payment and he just came
in with like bags and bags ofpennies and just like here you
go.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Count it, count it, yeah, use it.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yep, yep, so isn't that funny?
Yeah, so I'm good with that.
I'm fine with saying goodbye tothe penny.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I am curious though.
So that's like, you know,that's a notorious sales scheme,
right, right, you know.
Twelve, ninety, nine, seventeen, ninety eight, you know
whatever it is, twenty twentyfive, seventy nine.
So people don't you know, theyjust look at it and they say
twenty five dollars instead oftwenty six dollars.
So are we going to replace thatwith nickels now, do we?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
have a feeling.
Yeah, that would make sense.
I think it was like Canada.
I think it was Canada that didthat.
Like they got rid of their,their penny and um and they, you
know, they just told businesses, people selling goods or
whatever, just you know, insteadof 1299, make it 1295.
And I think they still used it,like in digital currency.
You know what I mean.
So, like, if you're selling, ifI was selling my t-shirts,
(44:10):
whatever online, which is theonly place I sell them- actually
, um, you know you would.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
You could still do the $12.99 or $24.99, whatever.
The case is like in-personstuff, you would just go to the
nickel.
Listen, we're still dumb enoughto use nine-tenths of a cent
for gas.
Yeah, I know, it is what it is.
We'll.
We'll see where this takes us,but yes, it sounds like we will
be manufacturing minting.
No more pennies.
So for you collectors out there, put them in a mason jar
somewhere and bury them in yourbackyard.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Hey, I found this a good segue.
Oh, another, another thingwe're going to say goodbye to.
Maybe, oh maybe, maybe we'vebeen talking about this kind of
loosely over the past, I don'tknow, probably a couple of weeks
or so, yeah, you know.
And as surprise, surprise, theleft is freaking out, going
crazy.
In particular, did you see thevideo of the, the Democrat
(45:03):
Congress, men and women movingin like a mob of banshees and
converging at the office of theDOE and essentially verbally
attacking this one lone securityguard, who is the badass of the
week for sure?
That guy's my hero.
(45:24):
He was amazing, mine too.
I think there are a lot of.
I think you know he's not yourmovie star, handsome guy, but I
think a lot of women swooned alittle bit Like, oh my heart,
now that's a man right there.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Never raised his voice, never got animated, never
got angry, Stood therestoically.
You know I only heard him.
I'm sure he's probably spokemore than once, but you and I
talked about this.
You know Maxine Waters.
You know with her, you know,you know she looks like a Star
Wars character to me, so crazy.
She's pointing at him andsaying, well, what, if, what, if
(46:00):
?
We're going to come back herein the middle of the night?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Does that mean that you're going, gonna stay here
the whole time?
And he's like, I guess.
So he was so chill, like helooked like.
I loved his look of annoyance,but it was the kind of annoyance
that if, like a you know a napkept flying around you and it
said that's enough to annoy you.
That was the extent of hisfacial reaction and even his
responses.
You know like at one point shesaid are you going to?
I think she said something tothe effect of are you?
(46:31):
going to stop us all from goingin there.
And he said what are you goingto do?
Steamroll me.
Every part of his response andreaction was spectacular.
Response and reaction wasspectacular.
Everything about their behaviorand their actions was so
disgusting and such anembarrassment to this country
really to to themselves morethan anything.
(46:52):
Um, what else did she do?
She says this is the funniestpart to me Where's your ID?
Show me your ID.
Isn't this the party of no ID?
Right?
Like, suddenly you want an ID.
Right, suddenly, an ID is soimportant to you.
And then, when he shows her theID, that woman has the audacity
to like, flick it.
She flicked it with that bonyfinger.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Like, yeah, and all of this was started because Elon
Musk, on Sunday, right beforethe Super Bowl, I think said you
know that the Department ofEducation doesn't exist anymore
and everybody was like what?
So Monday morning they all wentto the building and the doors
were locked and listen, there'sno.
I don't care who you are and Idon't care what you know, what
(47:38):
industry you're in, I don't carewhat you do for a living.
What you do for a living If youhave an organization, a
business of any kind that hasfailed in their mission.
As just colossally as the dealis, you would tear that place
apart and shut it too, without adoubt.
Yeah, if you went from secondplace in your industry and you
(48:01):
implemented this new departmentthat was supposed to
revolutionize everything, andthen you went to 40th place, you
would.
You would close that, you wouldget rid of that completely and
you would at least, at a minimum, go back to doing what you're
doing.
However, you wouldn't waste 40years waiting to do that.
We should have closed DOE along time ago.
This is a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
They are and you know , and if I understand correctly,
the doors were shut.
Everything was shut downbecause they were essentially
auditing at that point.
So they're looking for thewaste.
This is not the time to come inand have your little
conversations and, you know, wagthat bony finger in anybody's
face.
You're going to wait until it'stime to have a conversation.
Right now, this is what'shappening.
(48:43):
You're okay, nothing's going tohappen to you.
You know, kids are still goingto school, everybody's still
learning things.
Calm yourself and wait.
And we're going to find thewasteful spending and we're
going to eliminate it.
And guess what?
The whole thing is a waste.
And I think he already.
I think he found, well, I don'tknow how many million, but
millions of dollars going to DEI, you know, initiatives and
(49:03):
programs and everything.
So I think it was like 79million or 80 million, $89
million, going to DEI traininginitiatives.
You know, whatever they,however they termed it, but yeah
, and that's done.
These days are done of thatkind of nonsense, you know, and
how infuriating.
And if you're sitting theresaying, oh no, we need those,
(49:24):
those DEI training andinitiatives, what are we going
to do with them?
Screw you.
That's the nicest way I can putit, because I wanted to say
something else, because if I'mgiving money to the Department
of Education, you know, somebodysays you have to give money to
the Department of Education.
I would say, okay, well, what'sthat money going for Education?
(49:45):
I would say, of course, take mymoney, because I want my kids
to have the best education, andthat means, you know, math,
science, reading, all of theimportant things, not gender
studies, and I, you know, Idon't even know what.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Listen, we suck at STEM.
We do Comparatively in theListen.
We suck at STEM.
We do Comparatively in theworld.
We suck at STEM.
And if we're not focused onthat as the number one priority,
then we are wrong.
I would tell you, it's probablySTEM one and physical fitness
as part of education, and when Isay physical fitness, I'm
(50:24):
talking about nutritionaleducation, I'm talking about
exercise for kids, I'm talkingabout lowering the obesity rate,
and this all ties into RFK, butlike, that's part of it.
So STEM and then PE are the twobiggest things Absolutely, and
I don't know if you know this ornot, but I, you know, I
substitute, taught for a whileand you know that, for in some
places, stem became STEM A.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
No I know Right.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Is it the A?
Is the art?
Is the arts?
Oh, ok, because they weren'tgetting the funding.
Right and all the liberal artsteachers got offended because
they weren't getting the sameshare of money that the STEM
teachers were getting.
So a lot of schools to avoidconflict and stop hurting
people's feelings and extendedit to a STEM a.
(51:09):
So it's, you know, engineering,it's all that stuff,
mathematics and the arts, youknow.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Well, so here's the funny thing.
So I, I love, I love the arts.
I loved all the creative stuffas a kid.
It was like one of the fewthings I excelled at at school
because I was a littletroublemaker Don't come for me,
people, I was, I can't help itUm, and I, I loved all of that
stuff.
Now here's where I draw theline, Like I would love to see
the arts included in that,because I think music and you
(51:36):
know, uh, art in general, we'lljust go with.
I think those are so beneficialto have in your life, right
Developmentally everything.
But where I draw the line iswhere you take it too far.
And now you're having drag.
You know shows and things.
You know what I mean.
They always take everything toodamn far.
Yeah, you know.
(51:56):
So stay focused.
Teach the fundamentals of youknow, I don't know color theory,
I don't freaking know, but youknow what I mean Normal stuff,
Don't take it off the rails, butListen, and I would tell you
that you know STEM, obviouslybeing science, technology, you
know engineering, mathematics,right.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
So we need that as a nation.
We need that to competeglobally.
I would tell you that you know,the baseline for all of that is
being able to read.
You know, obviously, as part ofthe liberal arts is not and
it's not just being able to read, but comprehending as well.
So it's intricate.
To all of that, that doesn'tmean it needs to be extended
(52:35):
into the creative arts, likelisten, if your school wants to
and can afford to, you know,after everything else is said
and done, have a great liberalarts program, right?
If not, you still have to knowhow to do math.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
You know it is what it is.
So, yeah, I, you know thiswhole thing has been convoluted.
I am all for, you know, pushingthings back down to the states.
I think some states are stillgoing to suffer because of their
own culture.
I think you're still going tohave problems in places like
California and specifically LosAngeles County.
You're going to have problemsin Illinois, specifically Cook
County, chicago.
(53:11):
You're going to have problemsin New York.
You know New York City, youknow Michigan, detroit.
You're still going to haveproblems in those areas because
the states, you know, are goingto be overridden by mayors and
public school teachers unionsand those kinds of things and
there's still going to be achallenge.
But for the most part, the restof the country, the best thing
we can do is cut, doe and pushit back down and let the States
(53:32):
run it Right.
I'm sorry.
I think that's the best option.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, yeah, no argument for me.
I'm with you and you know II've said many times by um, you
know, dislike of the publiceducation system, and it's for
all the reasons that we werejust talking about, you know,
and maybe with getting rid ofthe Board of Education, then,
you know, maybe some changeswill take place that you know,
the parents have beenessentially kicked out of
(53:56):
involvement with the educatingof their children.
They're expected to just handthem over, leave them with these
people for eight hours a dayplus because after school,
curriculums and everything, andthen they're being told that
they have no say and it's noneof their business.
So you know, that's where myreal problem with public
education comes in.
(54:17):
If somebody told me that it wasnone of my business what my kid
was doing in school, what theywere teaching them, and that
they could keep secrets from meas a parent about my child and
indoctrinate them into, you know, whatever their agenda is, it's
a hard pass for me.
So hopefully we're going to seea lot of changes there.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, I think there's a.
You know it's a multifacetedproblem.
Teachers don't get paid enough.
We all know that, right, I mean, it is the most it is probably,
you know, next to the military,or, you know, military cops,
teachers, firefighters none ofthem get paid enough to do what
they do None, and that's atravesty.
So that's probably one thingthat needs to be fixed.
But at the same time, what yousaid is true in a lot of school
(54:58):
districts where it's like listen, we're the experts, we know and
this is, you know, comes out ofa lot of the unions we're the
experts, we know how to educateyour kid, don't tell us how to
do it.
Okay, so that's oneContradictory or in
contradiction to that.
They will also tell you we'renot a babysitter, right, we're
not here to babysit, they'reyour kids.
(55:20):
We're not here to babysit, okay.
Well, it's one way or the other.
Either you want me involved oryou don't want me involved.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, which one is it Right.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
You don't want me involved when it comes to you
know what's in the curriculum,right, what your child is being
taught and told outside of youreyes.
But at the same time, you dowant me involved so that you can
, you know, minimize your workand effort outside of school
hours.
You know, and oh, by the way,you know, you just want kids to
show up and behave, right.
So there's a lot of levels tothe school issue, but I will
(55:54):
tell you that in the mix of allthat, there are really, really
awesome school districts.
Listen, folks, we're notattacking every school district
in the country.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
No, we're attacking the system, the parent system of
public schools and I feel forso many wonderful teachers out
there that kind of have theirhands tied and they have to toe
the line and follow, you know,whatever is passed down the pipe
to them and so many of themdisagree with it fundamentally
(56:24):
but it's like what are theygoing to do?
You know what are they going todo.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
So when I was substitute teaching and I think
you and I talked about this Iwould have closet conservative
teachers come up to me in thehallway and go hey, your podcast
with Elsa was awesome.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yes, because they didn't want to say it out loud.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
They didn't want to say it out loud.
They didn't want to be peggedas conservative.
They didn't want to be.
You know, and a lot of teachersdon't verbally disagree with
administrations for a lot ofreasons, job security being one
of them, yeah.
So you know, a lot of them arein a tough spot and I don't envy
them.
It's one of the things that Iand I miss a lot of things about
teaching.
I did enjoy my time as afull-time sub, but that's not
(57:06):
one of the things I miss.
So you know, all you teachersout there, we love you, we feel
for you, but I do believe in myheart of hearts that getting rid
of the DOE is the best move.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
Everything will work out.
There will be a.
I'm sure there already is a newplan in place.
You know what I mean.
They're not going to take onething away without having
something else to replace it,and I think that's always the
big fear.
I just spoke to the sweetestwoman the other day and she's a
conservative.
She voted for Trump, she lovesTrump, but she was so upset
because her, her liberal friendswere wagging their bony fingers
(57:34):
in her face saying well, I hopeyou're happy now he's taken
away cancer research funding.
And as soon as she said I'mlike hang on, hang on, hang on,
give me a minute.
I haven't heard anything aboutthis.
It took me, like you know, 30seconds in a search to find out
the truth.
And you know, and the realityis, federally, so many things
are getting frozen.
Right now it's the assessmenttime.
(57:55):
This is the audit time.
We're looking for ways andmaking sure that the money that
you say is going here is reallygoing here, you know.
So just I told her, I said justhang tight, deep breath.
If he takes it away from onearea, it's coming from another
spot.
You're not going to and it'sprobably going to be better than
ever, because you have toremember that historically, here
(58:17):
we have a government and asystem that does not want you to
get healthy, they don't want tocure cancer.
So we're entering a new erahere.
I believe in my heart.
We're entering a new era wherethey actually want to cure
things, they actually want youto be healthy and all of those
things.
So she was she left veryrelieved and I better be right,
because I'm in trouble.
She can't come get me if I'mwrong.
Speaker 3 (58:40):
I don't even know if we hit all the topics we were
planning on hitting.
We didn't.
We didn't get a lot of stuff,but we're out of time.
We're out of time.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
We're out of time.
We're out of time, we're out oftime.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Listen, if it's still relevant next week, we'll cover
it next week.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yes, Exactly Probably will.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
Exactly yeah.
It'll be all ongoing right,we're going to talk about we'll
pick that up next week.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
Exactly.
It'll still be going on.
We'll probably have even morefun stuff to talk about with
that, so looking forward to it.
Oh, guys, we thank you forjoining us.
As always, it's always a blastwith you, clay, and hanging out
with you guys, and we lookforward to chatting with you in
the comments section.
All of that good stuff.
And Clay, you know the deal youclose them out.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
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