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February 20, 2025 38 mins

Ever compared your marriage to a mortgage? We did, and it turns out there's more similarity there than you might think. Kick off this episode with us as we groove into our discussion, sharing pre-recording dance moves that set the tone for a lively and engaging conversation. We dive into the concept of a "marriage mortgage," inviting you to see relationships as valuable investments. Like a home, relationships require maintenance and appreciation, and we're here to shift your mindset from seeing them as burdens to assets. With a healthy dose of humor and banter, we remind you to enjoy the equity you build with love and trust.

Highlights:

• Marriage as an investment rather than a burden
• Importance of enjoying the relationship journey
• Self-love as a prerequisite for a healthy partnership
• Engaging game segment exploring relationship experiences
• Mutual growth and shared journeys among couples
• Practical tips for adding equity in relationships
• Encouragement for couples to communicate and celebrate love
• Community-building through shared experiences and insights

Our playful "Never Have I Ever" game takes you through memorable dating escapades, from high school heartbreaks to fake phone numbers inspired by classic tunes. We share candid stories about the awkwardness of forgotten names and the nuances of dating across age gaps. Laughter and honesty guide the way as we explore the importance of boundaries, honesty, and shared memories. 

Join us for a light-hearted yet insightful journey through the highs and lows of empowered relationships—and remember, keep those kisses genuine and non-stingy!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So Mike and I always dance before we get on the mic.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hints is why we are a little bit out of breath.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Because usually because we're laughing and we
just had a realization like Ifeel like monumental realization
that we should share witheveryone is that I'm always like
man.
Mike looks like he was taughthow to dance by like a 1970s
pimp.
Then he's like well, I wastaught by Soul Train.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Man, soul Train like Soul Train, like they floated
across that dance floor.
That's how I boogie honey Right?
That's why I turn heads.
Oh my yeah, Chin hands areright, my dance steps bring Zuri
to the yard.
You know what I'm saying?

(00:49):
Ching, ching, ching.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Welcome to the Empowerment Couple Podcast,
where your path to self-masteryexpands.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
My co-host is Empowerment Coach Zuri Starr.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And he's Expansion Coach Mikey Starr.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Together, we are the Empowerment Couple.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And he's expansion coach, mikey Starr.
Together, we are theEmpowerment Couple.
Our mission is simple to serveyou love, so you can make
informed decisions to regain andmaintain your personal power.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
We'll take you on a journey to a life filled with
purpose, passion and limitlesspossibilities, while sharing
stories of transformation,wellness hacks and healthy
habits backed by science andancient wisdom.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Plus, we'll keep you entertained with engaging games,
banter and funny innuendosalong the way.
Each episode is an excitingblend of education,
entertainment and empowermentdesigned to help you create a
mindset to be a magnet for morelove, happiness and abundance.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Together with our special guests.
We are dedicated to sharinginformation that empowers you to
create your most beautiful life.
A onesie, a twosie, a threesieyour most beautiful life.
I got nothing.
I got nothing.
You're supposed to saysomething I forgot so how are

(02:07):
you doing today?
I'm rich.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I am abundant.
Oh hi, abundant, it's nice tomeet you.
Yeah, nice to meet you too, sowe're going to talk about
mortgage today.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
What type of mortgage ?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
A marriage mortgage.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh, I like that concept, I like that concept.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So, basically, when you invest a lot of time, money,
focus into something like arelationship, why are you making
these faces?
And when you do that like, it'skind of like a mortgage, it is
like a mortgage.

(02:48):
And so a lot of times I thinkin a relationship you don't
focus on it being like somethingof value, because, like you
could take it for granted, youknow, and you can look at it as
like maybe a burden whichsometimes people do look at
their mortgage as like a burden,but if you choose to, you can

(03:12):
look at it as like an asset andlike a wonderful thing to be
celebrated.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
We had come across that meme where the woman was
talking about, you know,actually sitting back and
enjoying her mortgage, and ofcourse, she was talking about
her house and we like theconcept right.
She was sitting back in herchair and she's like you know
what, I don't need to go out, Idon't need to do all these
things, I'm actually going tosit and enjoy all the hard work.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
There's a trend about enjoying your mortgage.
Right now especially, somepeople purchase homes and like
the last five years and likethey have the highest interest
rates ever.
Or some people are like reallydealing with like layoffs or
inflation or whatever you know.
Let me just enjoy my mortgagebecause like that's something

(03:59):
that oftentimes people arelooking for, like the next thing
to be excited about.
And if you do own a home, youknow like you put so much time,
love and tenderness into yourhouse.
Whether it's like fixing youknow a broken toilet, or you

(04:23):
know a loose door handle, orlike whatever the thing is,
you're always fixing somethingCorrect, like you are the
landlord.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And you are also the landlord of your marriage right.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Right and it's a big commitment.
It is.
It is a big commitment.
It is expensive to get into itand it's expensive to get out of
it, just like a mortgage.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Just like a mortgage.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Right and if.
But if you do it right, likeyou build a lot of equity, and
if you do it right, like you getto really enjoy it.
And if you have the rightmindset shift about what a
marriage really is like, it's agift, correct and it's a
privilege.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It is a privilege and it is something that not
everyone has.
And even if you do have amarriage, it may not be a type
of marriage that you havecultivated enough to actually
reap the rewards right.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
That's where the equity comes in Say reap the
rewards five more times.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Reap the rewards five more times.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
We do awards.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
We do awards, regardless of my pronunciation
of reap the rewards you stillhave to reap the rewards of your
marriage in order for you toactually enjoy it Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I just had to make fun of that because you know
that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, that's the equity that you have incurred.
We have built up some banterequity here, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Like I get to talk some shit because you know I got
your back and you know I loveyou and you know like you can
trust in me and I'm not going todo you dirty, and so you know
like it's okay to talk a littleshit.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's I will receive .
I will receive a little bit ofthe shit when it starts to pile
on.
That's when it's.
That's when I feel like I mayhave a squatter.
Well, mikey and I have beenkissing.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, I like the squatter.
I just knew the dad joke wascoming so I was like let me jump
on top of that.
No, so Mikey and I have beenkissing more since you know.
So who's still doing thekissing challenge with us?
That's something to find outabout Right Power Posse, you
guys still kissing.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Our lips are busy.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
And we're busy, we're not giving no stingy kisses.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Only one per day we're doing.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I'd say we're like our average.
I'm saying we're like at fiveor six now, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, most.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
definitely.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Like you know, if we were to average the days since
the last time that we talkedabout this, I would say we're
like at a solid six.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're not beating Italy yet.
No, in this household, morekisses are being had by all.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yes, but also I feel like on the days where we are
like intimate, intimate, likeall of that kissing averages it
out for the days that you aretoo stingy to kiss me.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I was like where's the bullshit?
Here it comes.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Anyway, go back to last week's episode and you can
listen more about what we'retalking about, which is kissing
medicine and the importance ofkissing.
Next week, we're going to betalking about oral health with a
very special guest and moreabout connection and habits and
how to enjoy all the benefits ofhaving a healthy microbiome.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That is quick?
No, go ahead.
I'm pointing at you, you'repointing at me Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Today we are going to talk about empowered
relationships and build on thismarriage mortgage and talk some
about what we have been doingwith empowering relationships
and helping some of our clientsget into healthier places by
just switching the perspective alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Exactly Sharing information that shouldn't be
coveted.
It's like getting theblueprints of your partnership
right.
I want to know more about you,you want to know more about me,
and in order for us to do that,we have to know more about each
other and more about ourselves.
That's what the empoweredrelationships is all about.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, and I think, just like expansion, if you're
an expansion coach, which youare you're going to want me to
expand and I'm going to want youto expand and like, sometimes I
think in relationships we wantthe other person to stay the
same.
There's like, often, that likeyou've changed, and it's like,
of course, like you hope thatpeople change, like you don't

(08:40):
want your high school friends,let's say, to be the same exact
person they were in high school.
No, this is why people kind ofgrow together, or they grow
apart.
You are growing.
You're either growing or dying,whether that's business or in
life.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
You're growing, whether you want to or not.
If you control the growth,that's when you get enjoyment.
That's the expansion process.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
When you say yes to the growth, exactly that's when
you get enjoyment.
That's the expansion process.
When you say yes to the growth,exactly that's what I would say
.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, kind of ride the wave.
But going back to enjoying yourmarital bliss and your marital
mortgage, part of that isactually loving on yourself so
that you bring a better portionor a better version of yourself
to the relationship.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, and so like of course, we have said many times
and you've if you've listened to, like our self-love podcasts,
you have heard us talk about theimportance of self-love and
loving on yourself in a holisticway and like different, you
know ways you can do that withself, self care and you know

(09:48):
self worth and and all kinds ofthings right, Understanding your
purpose and walking your,walking in your purpose, doing
purpose work.
So, I think, bringing this backto an actual marriage and
actual romantic relationship,since it's February, the month
of love, Kisses.
And uh, kisses, kiss, loveKisses.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And kisses, kisses, kisses, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Just a verbal kiss, yeah, a month of love.
And then you just say kisses,yeah, yeah, kiss Tourette's.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm just giving you air kisses.
Let them be receipts that youhave received them.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, just random Kisses, kiss Tourette's.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Is that a bad thing, though?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't think it's a bad thing.
Hugs.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's not as good as kisses, but hugs works.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
High fives and hugs.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I won't say the other ones are coming to my mind,
because it's a good show so far.
Bring it back.
Bring it back.
It's a good show so far.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
So let's talk about empowered relationships.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
First I want to play a quick game with you, actually.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm all for games.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Let's play a quick empowered relationship game
called Never have I ever ohyou're going to get me on this
one again.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I knew there was something devious.
You walked in here and was likewhat's the game?
You're like, oh, just wait, I'mlike okay.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'm not going to tell you the game.
That's part of the game.
We're playing games.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I hate this one.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
This one's so fun.
Okay, you don't like.
Never have I Ever I've playedthis enough.
Just kidding, you know.
Don't feel bad for Mike.
Mike likes when I'm feisty To apoint To a point.
There is a point.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Being burnt is different from being charred.
Just keep that in mind.
Okay go, I don't give thatanalogy Kisses.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Never have I ever empowered relationship version.
This is only aboutrelationships.
Okay only about relationships,so like dating, from dating all
the way up to marriage.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, what All relationships?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Just relationships Yep period.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh, you're trying to trap me.
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Okay, never have I ever been on a disastrous date.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I have been on a disastrous date.
It was disastrous.
I'm looking at you like, wait,it was with you.
Wait what?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, you remember our first date, the one where I hid
in the bushes.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yes, that date.
Oh my God, I knew you weregoing to go some cutthroat.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I didn't even think about that.
Honestly, I was thinking youwere going to tell me something
from like BZ, like before Zuri,I didn't think you were going to
go for one of ours.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, that was my most disastrous date.
Aw yeah, I popped your date,cherry.
That was the only date thatI've ever been on where, after
the date, I wrote an apologynote.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
All right, I guess if you're going to bring that up,
you got to mention like a littlebit of it.
Give me the short version.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Short version.
I had a friend who I had beenfriends with for over five years
, who happened to be a female,who happened to live in the same
A friends with benefits no.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Happened to live in the same city as we met in.
Let's be honest, happened tolive in the same city as we met
in.
I took you out on a date and wewere having a good time Bumped
into her.
She thought she was going to bewith us on this date and didn't
take no for an answer and youbolted I was like I'm out of
here.
And I cut things off with herand I did an apology note and

(13:46):
bada boom, bada bang.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
We're the empowerment couple.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Wait a minute Next.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Next, you skipped some things and that's
interesting how you rememberedit, but I'm going to just let
that one go.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hey, the devil is in the details.
Let's not summon the devil.
We're not summoning the devilSummon summon, summon summon
Nope no Satan.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, so never have I ever and I would say probably
now that you've said it that wasmy most disastrous.
So I'm going to answer too.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, so it's fair.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Got it, so we're even Stephen All right.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, that was pretty disastrous.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
That was bad.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
You never want to be hit on by the girl that your
date has already dabbled with.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I was like, boy, this is not going to be a threesome.
No, no, thank you.
No, okay, that was prettydisastrous.
Okay, never have I ever been ina relationship with someone who
was too clingy.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Too clingy.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I have.
I had a stage five clinger.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, I didn't.
I never had a clinger.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Never have.
Oh really, yeah, wow, okay,impressive.
Never have I ever danced in therain with a partner.
Never have I ever danced in therain with a partner, never have
.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I ever danced in a rain with a partner I have?
I have too.
Yes, and it's with you.
Yeah, during our wedding night.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yes, okay, never have I ever kissed under mistletoe.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I have.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Have Never, have I ever.
That's all PG.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I was all.
I had my defenses up.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I know this is Disney .
It's going to be a mixed baghere, baby.
Okay, never have I everre-gifted a gift from a partner
to a different partner.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Never.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
No.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's some shady shit right there.
See, I told you it went Disneyand then it went dirty real
quick.
Never have I ever lied aboutbeing single.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Lied about being single.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
No.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Meaning you told somebody that you were single
when you were dating somebody.
Come on, come now tips.
You didn't do that.
No, okay, I haven't, but Ifigured you had.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh wait, no, no, hold on now.
You just messed up.
You looked at me as if.
Wait a minute.
Both of us did that, didn't weno?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I plead the fifth.
Okay.
Never have I ever gone on adate without brushing my teeth.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I think I might have once or twice.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Ooh, that checks.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Like you know, meeting someone right after work
or something yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Ew, okay, well, I'd.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
And it was with you Ew.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, that checks out.
Yeah, you need to brush themteeth with you.
Ew, yes, that checks out.
Yeah, you need to brush themteeths.
No, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, but you also worked at a restaurant, so I was
going there to eat.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, never, have I ever fallen in love at first
sight.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I have Kisses.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Kisses, what the hell , hell.
So that was first time you sawme yeah, or our first time that
we met.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That was the first time I saw you no, the first
time you saw me first time I sawyou, I was.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I was captivated before we actually met correct
like a couple weeks or somethingbefore we met correct.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay, glass of wine interesting hair up yeah blue
top on.
Yeah, I remember all that.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Well, that the blue top is the night.
That's the night that I was.
I met you.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yes, but you also had a blue top on the night I saw
you.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I wore blue tops a lot.
It's kind of my thing, okay,never.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Oh, is that the color of your eyes?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
High Eyes Highlights the shade of your hair.
Yeah, we all know that let's go.
Never have I ever beenserenaded by my partner.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
You pretty much serenade me all the time.
I wouldn't say serenaded, right, because I'm more of a singer,
you know it's more of aperformance.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
You have serenaded me and I have serenaded you, so
we're gonna say yes, I remembersinging for you the first time.
Yeah, yeah and I serenade you,let me be the singer.
My friend, you're good.
Oh my God Curses.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Okay, let's go Never have I ever been called a pet
name?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
by a partner.
I've been called a pet name.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, of course that one's kind of dumb.
Come on, this is like belowDisney Okay never, have I ever
gone on a date just to makesomeone else jealous?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
No, I haven't done that either.
I mean, it's pretty vanilla, mydating.
My dating has been a littlevanilla.
Now that I think about it,never have I gone out on a date
without wearing underwear.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I always have underwear on.
It's hard for me not to have it.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Okay, well, women we sometimes don't.
So I'm definitely guilty ofthat one.
Never have I ever snoopedthrough a partner's email or
text messages.
Oh, you've done that for me andI've done that for you.
So, yeah, it's a service foryou.
It's a service Pretty much.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's a service.
It's a cleaning service.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Let me clean you up real quick.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Detect and deter Detect and deter.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
You're just deleting fools, or what?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm going to pick up your phone and hold on.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Got to save me from the AI boyfriends right.
Mm-hmm.
Never have I ever.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
You and your clinger.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, never have I ever had a crush on a teacher
while in school?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I have yeah, yeah, pretty much I think.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I think that's part of being a kid right yeah, most
certainly I see I didn't reallyhave a crush on a teacher, but I
had a teacher that I liked alot and then I found out he was
like crushing on girls, likeafter I graduated, that's yeah
so yuck, because I was like thiscan only go one way.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
You don't go the other way.
Yeah well, these arerelationships.
So Okay.
Never have I ever used a cheesypickup line.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, I've used some cheesy pickup lines.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I have not.
I definitely have not.
I've received quite a few.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You want to hear my favorite?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Sure Do I Do.
I want to hear my favorite.
Sure Do I Do.
I want to hear your favorite.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Do you have a mirror in your pocket, because I can
see myself in your pants.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
See it would have worked.
Is this dad joke version of apickup line?
Because that was horrible.
Like I can't see that workingon with like anyone.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Here's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
You want to have sex and get some pizza or what that
would work.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
You don't like pizza, that would work.
I'd be like, yes, those bothsound lovely.
What kind of pizza?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Pepperoni.
That extra forfeiture.
Okay, keep going, let's goJesus.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, never have I regretted saying I love you to
someone.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Never.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, same.
Everyone who received it neededit yep, never have I ever been
set up by friends never, neverhave I ever been um set up by
friends.
No, no, I mean.
The truth is it's just a stringof monogamy.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'm the same.
I'm a serial monogamist, it'slike there's always somebody on
deck.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I was like, what's up , who's next?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I think after the year, after 18, I think I was
single for like maybecollectively a month.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, but to be fair, I did get pushed into meeting
you, so our origin story is oneof our episodes.
You can go back and listen tothat, but I did get pushed into
that, so technically I guess.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Best money ever spent .

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Best money ever spent .

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Best money ever spent .

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay, okay, um.
Never have I ever dated someonemore than 10 years older or
younger.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Never.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I have.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, older, Not younger, I mean not yet, Like
you know, we'll see how you playyour cards.
I might be this, like you know,old lady cougar just dipping
down.
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, my metabolic age is getting younger and
younger, so maybe Shut up.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Black don't crack, so it's more likely that it would
be you.
Never have I ever been dumpedvia text.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Never.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I've never been dumped.
Have you ever been dumped?
Not really, I mean kind of haveyou ever been dumped?
Not really I mean kind of.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
But it wasn't like I'm breaking up with you, it's
just like, yeah, we were not,yeah, a little high school thing
, but I've never been dumped.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Dumped Like that means like somebody broke up
with you.
It's yes or no.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Not really, she moved away.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Not really.
She moved away, you don't wantto keep it long distance.
No, not in high school.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Let's do two more, okay.
Never have I ever forgotten thename of a date.
Never, never, have I evercalled out someone's name while
having sex Like the wrongperson's name.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Before you.
I feel like I have a memory ofdoing that once before.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Is it a memory or did you see something on TV?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
No, I think it's a memory, but it was back in the
drinking days, so everything'skind of swishy back there Swishy
.
Swishy A little slosh slosh.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, last one Never have I ever given out a fake
phone number.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I have.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You have.
Who do they call Domino's orsomething?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
No 8-6-7-5.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I have 309.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
8-6-7-5-309.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
If you're going to do , that joke, you have to
actually do the right number8-6-7-5-309.
If you're going to do that joke, you have to actually do the
right number 865-309.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
That was right.
I'm glad you said that.
Keep it in the show, becauseI'm going to watch the show and
listen.
Oh, I was right.
It's on air.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yes, that's the number I gave.
That's the number you gaveMm-hmm.
Yes, that's the number I gave.
That's the number you gave,mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Now that's like did they get it?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
No, they didn't get it, which is why it didn't work
out.
Had they got it and laughed,they probably would have called
me back, because you know I'm agood guy.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
You'd answer to that phone.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
If somebody calls 867-5309, you'd answer no, I
would have given them my realnumber Like oh my God, that is
so much funnier, like okay itwas a test.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
You passed the test For the youngins, this is a song
, okay, just put it in Spotify.
867-5309, okay, 80s.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Loving it.
I think we're good.
That was a good game.
Yeah, it was good.
I kept it PG for some of it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, for most of it yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I mean, well, what do you have you want me to be like
?
Oh never have I ever hooked upwith my best friend Like lover
or like what do you want me todo?
You want me to do dirty ones.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Have you done that?
No no, oh, my goodness you.
The look on your face makes methink that you have I looked at
you like no fool.
Was this a confession?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
this is a jerry springer confession I brought
you here to tell you I'm honoredI'm in love with your best
friend.
No, no, have you seen yourfriends?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Boy, bye Be nice.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh no, they're nice, be nice and like not interested.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay At all, I won't say anything, I'm just going to
not respond to that one.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, have you ever?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Have I ever what?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
The question.
The question not the confession.
The question was have you everhooked up with one of your best
friend's lovers?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
No, I don't do that.
I have had opportunities.
Oh, I bet you have.
No, I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Imagine your friends would be like.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, like in high school, everyone's incestuous,
like, oh, I was dating you andnow I'm dating you, but when I
had the opportunity to date oneof my friend's ex-girlfriends,
that's a negative, but I do havea friend who dated all of my
friend's ex-girlfriends so hedid the work for me.
So no guy code.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
No guy code for that one, but you like the guy code.
So, girl code, guy code, youlike that, like don't, yeah, you
don't sleep with your friends,blah blah blah.
That is correct.
Yeah, I I'm not down for thelike sloppy second kind of thing
, like no, no.
There's like if they said no,or even if they said yes, it's
like yes, no, not for me.

(27:45):
I want, I want my own Thanks.
There's a lot of people in theworld.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I don't want to have conversations about you know my
girlfriend and have my friend belike.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
oh yeah, me too.
Like what?
Oh your mother?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Had she done this to you, I'm like shut up.
No, I never, ever want to putmyself in that situation.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
That's so awful.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I know, tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Okay, so our marriage mortgage exists because we
haven't done some of these.
Never have I ever.
Okay, so let's get back intoour show.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Part of the playing games is the building of the
equity right.
We're keeping things fun and Ifeel like getting back to the
topic.
As you build equity in yourmarriage or your relationship,
you have to take time and enjoyit right.
If you're not enjoying it, it'sjust another thing.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, yeah.
It's like you bought a boat butthen you don't use the boat,
correct.
Or you got a gym membership andyou don't use the gym.
It's like don't buy somethingunless you're going to fully
enjoy it, and we become like aculture that just buys, buys,
buys and consumes, consumes,consumes.
And even in relationships it'slike a marriage.

(29:02):
You really invest in that.
Essentially, it's a businessdeal.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Hey, look at my marriage.
I haven't even opened it out ofthe package.
What you haven't done anything.
No, I don't want to fuck it up.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
So, getting back to empowered relationships, we
really recommend you, of course,start with self-love and work
on yourself, like work on thewounded parts of yourself, and
then start looking for someone.
You know, like you know, trynot to carry too much baggage
into the process because, sowounded Like you don't want to

(29:44):
enter a relationship.
It's just harder, like if theperson hasn't done any enter a
relationship.
It's just harder, like if ifthe person hasn't done any
self-work, it's harder, it makesfor a harder marriage, a more
complex mortgage.
You get a fixer upper.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
You get multiple properties in the back that need
to get renovated and how do weknow this?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
is that Mike and I carried in a whole bunch of you
know, wounds and baggage Correct, and that's not to say it can't
work.
I'm just saying it's a lot morework.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
So, like, if you can do the work prior, you know,
like However, if you find apartner who is willing also to
uncover their baggage, deal withtheir wounds whilst you do
yours, that is equity, that is abeautiful form of equity.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So if they're willing to help you, Willing.
Huh.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Is it willing?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
If they're willing.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
There we go, kisses.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
If they're willing to help you fix up your marriage
mortgage.
Like if they're willing to dealwith the fixer-upper.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, either that or you guys are both in that
fixer-upper status.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Like you, both have a couple of used cars in the
backyard that you need to getcleared out, right.
And I feel like if you findsomeone who's willing to also
grow with you, that is apositive, because you also
become each other'saccountability partner.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right, not just in you know you're going to be my
accountability partner but justin action.
If you see your partner comingup, you're going to want to come
up.
Yep Right.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And one of the things that Mike and I started doing
in this past year.
Part of the evolution of ourbusiness is we've started
working with couples and we'vestarted helping couples by way
of just people kind of thinkingthat our podcast was about like
just relationships because ofthe name the Empowerment Couple

(31:40):
so they think, oh, we're youknow, giving like relationship
advice which, if you are part ofour Empowered Posse, we kind of
go all over the place andempower you on all 12 areas of
your life.
That's our jam right.
But because people believe this, we found ourselves getting

(32:01):
requests to work with people andto help them transition and
find harmony.
So we do harmonization programs, we do VIP, like days with
people, and we now have that aspart of our coaching business
together and it's been reallyamazing.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I feel like the person that you have become
within this marriage is Iwouldn't have imagined when we
had first met, and the personwho I became within this
marriage I wouldn't haveimagined when we first met.
So like.
It's almost as if our issuesunlocked each other's potential.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, you have to really make sure that when you
find someone that they're onlike the same type of journey
that you want to be on BecauseEarth is like a school Do they
want to?
What do they really want to dowith their ride?
What do they really want to dowith this?

(32:58):
And if you find somebody whowants to be on the same type of
journey, like.
I knew Mike wanted to be on anexpansive road.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I like the high road.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
He knew I wanted to be on an expansive road and so
that became easy, because thenyou can, you know you will
inspire each other and you don'thave to hold each other
accountable.
But it does help to have acoach, and that's what we found
with our relationship set.
You know we are helping, we arehelping empower our empowered

(33:29):
relationship clients.
We are helping them get to aplace of harmony and also a
place of power, like personalpower but then unified power
like a unified front.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
And speaking of that unified front, that old saying
two heads are better than one,and speaking of that unified
front, that old saying two headsare better than one, that
suddenly comes into play.
That means every businessdecision, every decision you
make.
You have a second brain thatyou can connect with, who is on
the same level, who's alwaysthere to lift you up.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
A co-pilot.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
A co-pilot.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
And this is why it's so important I have found when
we work together with othercouples, we are bringing both
the masculine and the feminineand also like the experience of
like what it's actually likebeing in a unified front
relationship, because often whatwe have seen and what we
experience with our clients thatare couples is that they are

(34:26):
competing, they are fightingagainst each other, they are
power struggling and they areholding a lot of resentments and
there's these patterns that youcan see that are causing them a
lot of unnecessary sufferingand they're no longer enjoying
their marriage mortgage.
They're paying for it every daybut they're not enjoying it,

(34:48):
and if you're going to invest insomething, it better be
something that's going to bringyou a shit ton of joy.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
A shit ton of joy and actually money too, Because
when you have a united front,you're making money.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
So true, for sure, For sure we could for sure, for
sure, we can't be making thesquilla.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Pimp spins, pimp spins, except for you're not
dealing women, you're dealinglove.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That is correct.
That is correct.
I'm good with this, alwaysserving love.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Always serving love.
Always serving love.
Well, that wraps it up for ustoday.
We hope you enjoyed listeningto our marriage mortgage
discussion and we hope itinspires you to love on your
significant other.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Question of the week is easy what practices do you do
on a regular basis to addequity in your marriage?
Once again what practices doyou do regularly to add equity
to your marriage?
Once again, what practices doyou do regularly to add equity
to your marriage?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm like thinking, I'm like oh shit, this is a pop
quiz, are you asking me?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm asking you.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
So I do lots of things, yep, yep, do lots of
things, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Lots of big things, Really big grand things.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Let me go to my grand scroll.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Let me help you.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I do lots of things Like I validate you, I
compliment you, I touch you ifI'm walking by Correct.
I give you a lot of time, soquality time I give you.
I believe in you, so I push you, you know, push you into your

(36:41):
calling, which sometimes yourcalling is calling you and I'm
like do it.
Do it, no, I empower you andI'm like, do it.
Do it.
No, I empower you.
Vote for Pedro.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, it's spam, it's spam.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So I empower you and I would say that I keep you
laughing, even if sometimesyou're the butt of the jokes.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Me yeah, yeah, I'm often the butt of the jokes.
Me yeah, yeah, I'm often thebutt of the jokes, but that's
because of essence of humor,it's okay.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Sending you the highest vibrations.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You are held.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
You are loved.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, same For me.
Making sure you had a fruitsalad the other night Chopped
you up a little bit of fruitsalad.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh you're going to name specifics.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
No, I'm just saying I went for the overarching.
Okay, overarching, I make surethat I give you little treats,
little tasty treats, because youlike tasty treats right that
are also healthy.
You like healthy tasty treats,right, so I give you healthy,
tasty treats.
I give you lots of touches footmassages, belly massages, face

(37:51):
massages.
I dance with you and I give youkisses, just like the one I
just gave you air kisses, andreal ones.
I also have a very long laundrylist.
If I could, I could pull it outso you got just kidding.
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