July 3, 2025 • 44 mins
Imagine having a completely different relationship with money—one where abundance flows naturally, financial decisions feel empowering, and scarcity thoughts no longer control your life. In this transformative episode, we break down the concept of "money medicine" and how it can heal the wealth wounds keeping you trapped in limiting patterns.
Did you know that most people's money beliefs are formed by age seven? Or that financial stress activates neural pathways that physically block abundance? We reveal the shocking research showing how scarcity thinking actually lowers your IQ by 13 points—the equivalent of losing an entire night's sleep—and keeps you trapped making decisions from a place of fear rather than possibility.
We dive deep into the ten most common wealth wounds, from the scarcity wound ("there's never enough") to the worthiness wound ("I don't deserve money") to the safety wound ("money makes me unsafe"). These emotional, generational, and energetic imprints create powerful subconscious patterns that sabotage your financial wellbeing. The good news? Every wound you heal becomes wisdom you can embody.
The most powerful shift happens when you recognize that money is simply energy—neither good nor bad—and your relationship with it determines everything. We share five practical "money medicine" techniques including somatic safety practices, reparenting your inner money child, and our transformative "Money BFF" approach that has helped countless clients break free from financial anxiety and step into abundance.
Whether you're struggling with debt, underearning, overspending, or simply feeling disconnected from your financial power, this episode offers a roadmap to healing. Because ultimately, healing your money wounds isn't just about getting rich—it's about getting free. Join us on social media to share how this episode helped transform your relationship with money and abundance!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
What is really exciting.
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Is that she is married to a really really fine
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Okay, what are we in 1930s?
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A foxy fine fellow, a foxy fine fellow A foxy fine
fellow For short.
I need a break.
Yeah, you do, I need you.
Welcome to the EmpowermentCouple Podcast, where your path
to self-mastery expands.
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My co-host is Empowerment Coach Zuri Starr.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And he's Expansion Coach Mikey Starr.
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Together we are the Empowerment Couple.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Our mission is simple to serve you, love, so you can
make informed decisions toregain and maintain your
personal power.
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We'll take you on a journey to a life filled with
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Transcription by CastingWords more love,
happiness and abundance.
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Together with our special guests.
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I got nothing, you're supposed to say something.
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, well, let's dive into the show.
Today we are going to betalking about money medicine.
We have talked about all thesefree medicines in our show prior
.
We've talked about so manythings Gratitude medicine and
kissing medicine and touchmedicine but money if you have a
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healthy relationship with money, money can be medicinal as well
.
Oh, money has a massivelymedicinal effect, especially in
this type of playing field,because if you live in the US or
you live anywhere in the world,that money is a factor a major
player.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And it's also it's not having money.
That's not the problem, it'syour relationship to money.
Yeah, no, so you can have a lotof money and still have money
wounds.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Money is not your problem.
Money is never the problem.
The problem is that you have anissue with money, or you were
taught an issue, or you have awound that creates an issue, but
money is just energy Correct.
And so, yes, you could say,greed is a problem, but it's not
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money's fault, right?
Yeah, so today we're going tobe talking about money, medicine
for wealth wounds, and so yourwounds are going to be tended to
today, honey.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We got a Band-Aid full of cash.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We do have a Band-Aid full of cash and abundance and
all of the things that wealthencompasses.
So wealth isn't just money, butit certainly helps.
It's a partner in wealth.
So let's heal some wealthwounds and receive some
abundance, shall we?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We shall.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Money isn't just numbers, let's be clear.
It's nervous system, energy anddeep subconscious patterning.
If you're stuck in lack andfeast and famine, or lack and
limitation, we say, your bodymight be holding your wealth
hostage.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So nervous system.
If that's wacky, it's going tobe a repellent to wealth your
money.
Wounds, though, are not yourfault, but they are your
responsibility to heal.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And yes, I love that part about responsibility right,
Because we all inherit moneywounds from our parents and our
loved ones Environments yeah.
Environment, exactly TV, allthat stuff.
But it is again ourresponsibility.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So you get to take your power back and reshape what
kind of relationship you wantto have with money.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
What kind of world is that?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We have free range, so we want you to use this
episode as a bridge betweenpractical money healing and
energetic abundance with nervoussystem and shadow integration.
So last week's episode is sopowerful for what we're doing
today.
So we're definitely laying thegroundwork for you to have total
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integration of every part ofyourself in a healthy way and to
live the most wealthy, abundantlife possible.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now, if you're tuning in and this is the first time
that you're hearing the conceptof wealth wounds, let's get into
it.
So wealth wounds are emotional,generational and energetic
imprints that create scarcitypatterns, fear of receiving
money, Maybe you'reundercharging or you're
overspending.
So let's dive into the top 10core money wounds.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right, so there's the scarcity wound.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Number one and that's stemming from the belief that
there is not enough, there'snever enough to go around Right,
and the root from that is isusually growing up with lack,
maybe some survival basedenvironments, you know, if
you're cutting coupons andwhatnot, or collective scarcity
trauma, like during certain wars, right, that will create some
(05:52):
sort of trauma and the symptomsof those are hoarding chronic,
under-earning, panic aroundspending.
There may be some compulsivesaving or some overspending.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So let's just for each one of these, the scarcity
wound.
If any of this sounds like you,just jot it down if you aren't
driving, or put this in yourphone and just sit with this,
because we're going to give yousome ways to work and deal with
a scarcity wound.
Okay.
Correct, correct so number twois the worthiness wound, and
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this is the belief that I don'tdeserve to have money.
And the root is unmet emotionalneeds in childhood, low
self-worth people-pleasingpatterns.
Low self-worth people-pleasingpatterns Any of this sound
familiar.
So symptoms are undervaluingyour work, fear of charging,
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overgiving, self-sabotage whenreceiving abundance and we'll
get into this more later.
So, again, this was theworthiness wound.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The worthiness wound.
Number three is Is the safetywound right, and this is
stemming from the belief thatmoney isn't safe or having money
makes me unsafe.
The root from this usuallycomes from some financial trauma
enmeshment or witnessing moneybeing used to control for harm
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right.
The symptoms of that isavoiding money.
Or you have some anxiety whenwealth increases, you get some
money in your bank account andyou kind of freak out or
attracting financial chaos,right.
So you're in that system whereyou owe so much money and you're
just in that loop.
That really is going to stemfrom that safety wound.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Number four would be the rejection or abandonment
wound and the belief is if Ihave or want more money, I won't
be loved.
And the root is being rejectedor shamed for success or desires
.
And the symptoms aredownplaying goals, rejecting
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ambition, fearing being too muchin quotes, too much, you're too
much, or keeping yourself small.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, the keeping yourself small is something that
we see on a regular basis withthe rejected or abandonment
wound.
The next number five is thecontrol wound, and this stems
from the belief that I needmoney to feel in control or
others will control me with it,right?
So you want to arm yourselfwith money so that you can't be
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controlled by other people.
The root really comes fromfinancial manipulation, power
struggles in childhood orpartnerships.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And again.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We see a lot of these , we are taught a lot of these
wounds from our parents and frommedia, and the symptoms, of
course, are going to beover-controlling financial
decisions, right?
So you have to have all controlor a hyper-independence?
Maybe there's a fear of askingfor support?
(09:08):
So you're doing this on yourown.
You are a lone wolf.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
At all costs.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
At all costs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And so number six would be the guilt wound, and it
comes from the belief that it'swrong to have money when others
don't, and the root issurvivor's guilt, religious
programming, systemic injusticeawareness.
So if you're watching the newsand you're constantly seeing
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other people suffer, it mightmake you feel like the rich
people are all bad and the poorpeople are all great and it's
bad to be rich.
That would be an example.
So the symptoms are giving allyour money away, avoiding
earning more or feeling bad whenthriving.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, the number seven is the shame wound, and
this stems from the belief thatI'm bad with money or I'm not
smart enough or I failedfinancially.
These are some beliefs that aregoing to be generating the
shame wound, and the root fromthat really is going to come
from past debts or failures, orbeing shamed for not knowing how
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to manage money, even thoughit's not taught very well At all
money, even though it's nottaught very well right, and the
symptoms are hiding fromfinances or procrastination, or
not asking for help or learningabout money.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right, like learning ways that your money could be
working for you, for example.
So number eight is the loyaltywound and the belief is, if I
become wealthy, I'll betraywhere I came from.
So if there's a part of youthat is holding probably a
subconscious part of you that'sholding a attachment and an
identity connection to yourorigin stories maybe it was
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poverty is that you're afraid ofbetraying yourself and this can
be subconscious.
This is not something thatyou're consciously thinking.
The root is loyalty to familystruggles, cultural identity or
ancestral hardship.
So often we're carrying thecycles of what's happened to our
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ancestors.
The symptoms of this are holdingyourself back to stay connected
to your roots or not outshineothers.
Yeah, so that was the loyaltywound.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We know people like that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Number nine, the masculine wound, and this stems
from the belief that money istied to masculine dominance,
greed or oppression.
This stems from negativeassociations with patriarchal
structures or toxic capitalism.
The symptoms are rejectingstructure, resisting receiving
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or demonizing money itself.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, okay.
Number 10 is the feminine wound, and this is the belief that
it's not feminine to want ormanage money.
And some of this is from badprogramming.
The root is conditioning thatwomen shouldn't be powerful,
wealthy or in control.
I wonder who was working thatconditioning?
(12:20):
Maybe the patriarchy?
Maybe, yeah, exactly, maybe thepatriarchy.
Maybe the symptoms aredisempowered in financial
decisions, relying on others andguilt around desire.
And this is major becausethere's generations of women
that are.
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They have this programmingsubconsciously running the show
and they don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Now, the interesting about these wounds is that we
can actually carry multiplewounds.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yes, it's likely you have multiple wounds and the
remedy is coming up, so don'tstress.
When we look at the top 10, wecan easily see areas where we
need improvement ourselves.
Like nobody is perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It stated that the 78 of Americans live paycheck to
paycheck, which, of course, isthat scarcity cycle.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and that comes from Dave Ramsey.
There's a Harvard study that Iwanted to mention too is that
childhood experiences offinancial insecurity correlate
with financial stress inadulthood.
So it's just that cycle.
You know, patterning thingsthat we have all talked about on
the show is that if youexperience it as a child and
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you're experiencing it now, it'sbecause of a pattern that needs
to be broken.
It's a cycle that needs to endof a pattern that needs to be
broken.
Yes, the cycle that needs to endand likely you might be
listening to this because thisis part of your role here is to
break this ancestral cycle ofscarcity and treating money as
if money is bad, right, orwhatever your wound is.
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Whichever one of these seemlike oh, should I have that?
And if you're said yes to all10, maybe nine and 10, the
feminine and masculine are alittle bit off, but if you said
yes to a lot of them, that'sokay.
That just means that you havethe awareness that you need to
do some work, and work can befun.
It depends how you decide toapproach it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, and congratulations to you if you
just identified that you have amoney wound based off of the
information that we sent youExactly.
Now the cool thing is based onneuroscience.
They state that money stressactivates the amygdala, leading
to the fight-flight-freezeresponse around financial
decisions.
So imagine what your life isgoing to be like once you heal
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those wounds right.
You're going to have anenergetic come up.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Right, and what that neuroscience is really saying is
that your nervous system isgoing to be a repellent.
It's not going to allow if youare in fight, flight or freeze,
you are not in receptivity modeto receive more abundance.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, the bank is closed.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Right, and so everything in our Hold the Vibe
course is about holding afrequency that matches the
frequency of what you want,correct.
And if you are holding afrequency of oh fuck, how am I
going to get through the month,then you are going to continue
to create that cycle.
It just becomes a pattern.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Your subconscious beliefs about money are often
inherited, but they're notchosen, so you can choose
whether or not you want to havethose wounds.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And healing your money wounds is spiritual work,
because abundance requiressafety.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes.
And what does money buy you?
Safety.
You can pad yourself with money.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes, and also it buys you freedom.
I mean, I would just say thatthe best thing that money can do
for you as your money BFF is toprotect you, like you said, and
to provide freedom, and I thinkthat that's at the core of why
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people are having a a moneywound is that they feel trapped.
Therefore, they feel thatthey're imprisoned by money,
rather than money is freeingthem.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah.
And all that comes from within.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, and then they can only be a match for lack.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So let's dive into how money trauma lives in the
nervous system.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So financial instability in childhood, for
example, it imprintshypervigilance around spending,
saving, having just anythingaround money, so that
instability creates a foundationof stress and the vagus nerve
plays a role of how safe we feelreceiving and managing money.
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So if you haven't done vagusnerve work, there's a connection
to your nervous system, whichyour vagus nerve is the master
of, and the amount of money thatyou will receive and how you
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feel when you have it and whatyou then do with it.
So nervous system dysregulationcan manifest as overspending,
under-earning or rejectingabundance opportunities due to
fear.
An example would be getting alarge payment but immediately
feeling the urge to get rid ofit and spend it.
This equals nervous systemseeking familiar scarcity and
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you might not even be consciousof this.
Again, these could besubconscious programs from
childhood Good old childhood,right.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Good old childhood.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
If your nervous system doesn't feel safe with
abundance, it will sabotage it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, and case point.
We've heard stories afterstories after stories of people
who will win the lottery orthey'll win a massive amount of
money or inherit a massiveamount of money and within years
, within a year or a month, theyare worse off than they were
before they got the money.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right, Because if you never have managed money and
you came from scarcity, youoften misspend, overspend,
misspend all of the things thatwe just said.
But also you might be makinginvestments that are scams.
You might be like, oh well, letme see what I can do with this,
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and so that's.
The risk is that if you don'tlearn about money, your wounds
will harm you.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, and here's the other thing about wounds is like
if you know you are coming intoa lot of money right within the
next couple of months or weeks,you're going to hit this huge
jackpot or a huge project thatis going to be done and you
still have money wounds.
Those money wounds will beexacerbated by the extra money
that's coming in.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right, and I have clients that make millions of
dollars and are always stressedabout money, correct.
And it's like I have alsoclients who are not making as
much, who are never stressedabout money, and so really, your
wound is not money specific towhat you are calling in
oftentimes.
Oftentimes, it's that yourwound is creating a pattern in
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your nervous system and thenyour nervous system is just
repeating the pattern, correct,it's familiar.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We did it at the same time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Let's play a game.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, I love games.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I know how.
About we play what the Fook?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
What the Fook.
What the Fook I haven't playedthat in a long time.
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I know let's play, okay, so I've got some money.
Abundance, scarcity related.
What the Fooks Are you readyfor this?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I am Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I am, I am Okay, I'm going to see if I can shock you,
okay.
So did you know that scarcitylowers IQ by up to 13 points?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, so research from Princeton shows that just
thinking about financialscarcity, like how to pay bills,
for example, like oh no, Idon't have enough, I have too
much month and not enough.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Not enough, not enough paycheck.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Not enough.
Paycheck to cover that monthReduces cognitive function the
equivalent of losing a fullnight of sleep.
Yikes Can you even believe thatA full night of sleep Yikes?
Can you even believe that Afull night of sleep?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So if you are an insomniac and you have money
issues, you never sleep.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And maybe your money issues are why you don't sleep.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Ah, that's a catch-22 right there.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Are you ready for another one?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay.
So just talking about money,for example, like we live in the
US, if you're listening to ussomewhere else, did you know
that most Americans can't handlea $500 emergency without going
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into debt?
A $500 emergency?
So that means they are livingso close.
So, like we said, it'sestimated 60% to 70% of
Americans live paycheck topaycheck and many can't cover
that unexpected $500 expensewithout going into debt.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yikes.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So meaning they're not pulling from their account
to like deal with breaks.
Let's say breaks are like a 500or $600 job on your car, you
know you go tune up and they'relike, oh, it's going to be 600
bucks.
And you're like, why?
Like, oh, your breaks are outor it doesn't pass inspection or
whatever Right.
And you're like, oh shit, I gotto use a credit card just to
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cover this expense, and then I'mgoing to pay 18 to 20% on this
interest rate of the credit cardto cover this $500 expense.
So there's this constantscarcity cycle happening.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, did you like that one?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I do.
I do it is scary, though it'svery scary.
Yes, another interesting whatthe fluke is that.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
only 90% of US dollars exist only digitally.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Only 90%.
So 90% of US dollars exist onlydigitally.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh yeah, most certainly we no longer have the
gold standard Right.
So only about 10% of the moneyin the US is physical cash,
which is why I never have cash,but I do.
I do now carry cash, but therest is just numbers on a screen
.
It's all just digital.
It's created and moved by banksand digital systems.
It's all digital digital.
It's created and moved by banksand digital systems.
It's all digital currency.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Which, in my opinion, makes it even easier to
manifest it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Exactly, we're just manifesting numbers, just digits
.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Just digits.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, here's another.
What the fook?
Did you know that money beliefsare formed by age seven?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
By age seven.
Oh God, I'm looking at my ageseven.
I was like, oh yeah, yeah, Icame into this world wounded
with money.
You know what I mean?
It's like money wound, moneywound, money wound, money wound.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You just came out of the womb with like a scratch
yeah exactly, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh man, he's scratched already.
What is that?
Oh, that's his money wound.
Oh, he learned that in uteroUtero, oh, utero Utero, that's
right.
Sadly, by age seven Iofficially had tasted government
cheese.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You had already tasted it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, I had tasted government cheese.
I was like yeah, this is gross.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's nasty, but it's cheese, eat it, right, is it
though?
Yeah, so research shows yourcore money mindset is largely
set by age seven and based onyour early environment, family
habits and subconsciousconditioning.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And you know I want to go back to that.
Second.
What the fuck, when you'retalking about the $500 expense
will wipe out a lot of families.
I would welcome a $500 expense.
Most of our expenses are likefive grand.
It's like what.
I would take a $500 expense.
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I'd be like no biggie, we gotthat.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But yeah, lately we've been redoing stuff $4,000,
$6,000,.
No, biggie, we got that, butyeah, lately we've been redoing
stuff Like 4,000, 6,000, boom,boom.
We've been upgrading our house,yeah exactly.
When you upgrade your house,let me tell you it ain't $500,
honey, Exactly.
And the surprise is it's like agood episode of you know, like
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an HGTV show, where you're like,okay, here's your budget, oh,
it's going to be $20,000.
And you're like, yeah, triplethat.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh, I didn't see this .
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh, I didn't see this .
Oh, we're going to have thisissue, so it's yeah it's like a.
Ben Stiller movie.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Everything's great about your house, but the
foundation that's going to bereplaced.
Oh my God, don't say that,Sorry, House.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Don't listen to him.
He's just playing games.
We love you House.
All right, give me one moremind-boggling.
I have another one aboutscarcity Little fashion scarcity
.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
There's not enough to go around, there's not enough
to go around.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Did you know that scarcity makes you more likely
to stay in toxic situations?
Jobs relationships etc.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Say that one more time.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Scarcity makes you more likely to stay.
So scarcity about money, moneyscarcity, a money wound where
you never have enough, makes youmore likely to stay in toxic
jobs, relationships, situations,studies show scarcity mindset
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narrows your focus and it limitsperceived options.
So it kind of gives you thistunnel vision where you can only
see a little bit ahead of youand it's just about surviving.
It keeps people stuck inunderpaying jobs, toxic dynamics
, self-sacrificing roles, toxicrelationships it really just
locks you in.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's a showing of the power of patterns.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
The power of patterns .
The power of patterns, exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You can either be in a positive pattern or a negative
pattern.
Let me tell you when you're ina positive pattern, you ain't
got no wounds.
Money's coming in abundance.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Negative wound I'm just adding a little bit more
onto that one.
A little salt Scarcity.
Yeah, just add a little.
A little salt.
Salt cuz, just a little bit ofwhipped cream on top of this is
that when you have scarcitythinking, it decreases your
long-term thinking as well.
So you not only get tunnelvision, but you also get
long-term blindness.
Right, because when you're insurvival mode, people are less
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likely to invest, save or planfor the future.
They're not looking at theirmoney.
They're just like you know.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I got to eat Right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Because the brain becomes so focused on the
short-term relief of like, howdo I get out of this?
How do I get out of this, howdo I get out of this?
And if you've ever seen on TVor in person a trapped mouse,
that is what you can think ofwith scarcity is that it's only
looking at what's right in frontof them and it's acting very,
very quickly and fast.
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And it has this mouse visionwhere it can only see very, very
, you know, right in front of it.
It's not looking from a vantagepoint like eagle vision.
We talk about that a lot incoaching.
It's like how are you lookingat the problem?
And if you're only looking atmouse vision, then you're going
to have a limited view of theoptions, the possibilities, and
I just want to end this game bysaying that the universe is not
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on a budget.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like you, you can change all of this.
All of this is totallychangeable.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
The universe can afford you your own planet if
you want to.
It's massive and you know.
Going back to, you know thewhole foundation based off of
the whole Maslow's hierarchy ofneeds.
The bottom is that foundationis unstable.
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So it's going to be really hardfor you to make those wise
money decisions and allowabundance to come in, because
you are just focusing on thecracks in your foundation.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Mm-hmm, yeah, so let's dive back into our show
and talk about some of theprescription your money medicine
.
So you can return to makingmoney your BFF instead of acting
like money is just a billcollector.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Your money is your best friend or your worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Exactly so money, medicine, practices let's give
you five of them.
Okay, I'll start.
How about number one could besomatic safety.
So if you listened earlier,last month we talked about um
breath work, and breath workcould um be a somatic experience
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for you to create safety, tocalm the nervous system, before
you make financial decisions.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So reset your body and your mind before you jump
into finances.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yes, and how you can do that is you can put hand on
heart.
This will help you with yourbreathing, just to ground
yourself.
You can also go outside andground yourself and you can
actually even take your computeroutside.
Look at whatever yourspreadsheet or app or whatever
you're using on your phone tomanage your finances or your
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checking accounts.
Do it outside, where you haveyour feet on the ground, and you
can get some somatic safety,because the universe is going to
hold you in a position of powerand it's going to basically
charge you when you are standingon grass or putting your feet
on a rock or something.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it puts you in a celebratory state, right, you
get to celebrate money, you getto be a part of that money,
bringing in ritual, and when youground yourself, you're
literally connecting with thepower of the heavens.
It's just trifold Exactly.
The next thing you can do isreparent your inner money child.
So one way to do it.
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If you're big into journalingwhich I am, respond to this
prompt what did I hear aboutmoney growing up?
Again, what did I hear aboutmoney growing up?
Also, when you're speakingabout money, use safe words,
right.
Give yourself permission tolove on your inner child and
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teach that inner child aboutabundance.
So, be very careful about thewords that you're using when
you're talking about money.
Right, you want to create aopportunity of safety for your
inner child.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And then number three would be shadow integration.
So everything that we talkedabout on last week's show, about
integrating your shadow.
So I want you to identifyjudgments around wealth or
wealthy people.
So it's easy to do that becausecelebrities are easy to find.
They're constantly in our faceand they're constantly showing
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what wealth they have right.
So identify any judgments thatyou have around that.
Or, if you are in proximity towealthy people, notice what
comes up in you and what youfeel and if it's envy, if it,
you know what are, what are thethings and then ask what part of
me am I rejecting that couldhelp me receive more.
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So, like Mike was saying,journaling you can journal on
this.
You can also use this as yourgrounding meditation question.
You can ask this before you goto sleep, if you tend to get
answers in your dreams.
That would be an excellent wayfor you to integrate the part of
yourself that you're rejecting,so you can receive more.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That is a great question too.
What part of me am I rejecting?
Just note that there is a partof you that is rejecting
currently rejecting money If youhave a money issue, money wound
.
There is a part of you that isrejecting the money, the
abundance, the wealth, all thatstuff that you are wanting.
So number four energeticreceiving practice.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yes, I love this.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
We like to create practices and habits around the
things that we want, which iswhy we can become more in
alignment with it.
So a good, energetic receivingpractice would be saying thank
you, I receive that, withoutdeflecting it.
So if someone gives yousomething, thank you, I receive
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it.
Someone gives you either money,someone gives you advice,
someone gives you an opportunity, a compliment thank you, I
receive that and do not deflectit right, so you want to so
don't devalue it by.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
like you know, you get the sum of money and then
just being like, oh, I don'tdeserve it, and immediately, if
you have that energy, it's goingto push it away.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Correct and you can use that as you are, say,
invoicing.
You can use that as you areasking for a raise.
You can use that when you arewanting to move up financially.
Thank you, I received that andget into that mood, that mode,
even before you have received it.
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Right, yep, so you want tovisualize holding and expanding
abundance without fear?
Right, visualize holding andexpanding abundance without fear
.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, Instead of like .
You know, oftentimes if peopleare in lack, they'll think about
money and be like, oh, like,but if I have this, then I'll
have to do this.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'll be in a higher tech bracket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be this.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So, just like, whatever the fear that's
associated and dive into that,figure out, like when you
receive, what comes up for you,correct, correct.
Visualize yourself receivingand what comes up for you.
Correct, visualize yourselfreceiving and what comes up.
Okay, number five and the lastone is boundaries and wealth.
It's a huge one and it's notfive because it's least.
It's five because meh hit youwith this.
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Scarcity often comes from leaks.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Whoa leaks, Leaks.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Energetic leaks.
So are you setting boundariesaround your time?
If not, then you are creatingscarcity, and this is money
medicine we are giving you byhelping you identify.
Boundaries are crucial towealth.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So if money is just energy which we know it is, I
think everyone listeningprobably aligns with that it's
just energy, everything isenergy, and if it is just energy
, then you are likely leaking.
If you aren't abundant, you areleaking somewhere.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now, when we say leaking, there's so many ways of
deciphering that.
I mean energetic leaks, ofcourse, but then there's
financial leaks.
Right, you might be paying forthings that you're not supposed
to be paying for.
Uh, you may come into money andbe afraid of coming into money
knowing that family members aregoing to come in and try to um,
uh, ask for for money.
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So that's where the boundariescome in.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And when I teach this in my group, um coaching, I
often refer to money as a person.
And if money is your BFF andyou haven't and you've been
ignoring that BFF, there's goingto be consequences to that.
So if you're ignoring what ishappening with your money, if
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you're not investing time inthat relationship with that BFF,
if you aren't looking andfeeling connected and excited
about your mutual celebratoryprocess in a relationship, it's
just a money.
Bff is just a visualrepresentation of how you feel
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about money, and so I often haveclients draw like what's your
money BFF look like?
And I often have them identifyhow they are showing up for
their BFF.
Is it a reciprocal relationship,Meaning, are you tending and
caring and learning andexploring and celebrating really
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like?
Treat it like that and that's.
That's something that I havefound over and over again really
helps people in get throughsome of their scarcity is to to
rewrite the script on what moneyactually is.
Yes, it, it's energy, but makeit a BFF.
If you are a good friend toyour money, your money will be a
good friend to you.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I love that.
I love that.
The money BFF, it's youpracticing the conscious
intention to create wealth.
When you start talking aboutmoney, it's not automatic right,
because money isn't automatic.
Money takes the form ofwhatever you create it to be
right.
So if you create a consciousintention that money is your
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friend, your best friend, yourlover, maybe even a version of
your inner child, something thatyou can give love to, that
conscious intention will changeeverything about your life in
regards to how money is going tofind you.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Right yeah, so I just wanted to add that.
And this whole point of moneymedicine is, it's about creating
safety in your body to hold theabundance you desire.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Mm-hmm, I love that.
I'll even go so far as to saylike from Wayne Dyer.
He states that abundance is notsomething that we acquire, it's
something that we tune into.
Right?
So that's where the consciousintention is.
The minute that you startrewriting your thoughts about
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money, that is when you tuneinto those higher abundance
levels.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
All right.
So pop quiz, you're going totell me if this is a wealth
wound, a belief to rewire, orwealth wisdom, a belief to
embody.
Just pop quiz real quick.
Everyone play along.
Powered posse, let's go.
Money is the root of all evil.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
That is most certainly a wealth wound.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yep, okay, I have to work hard for money.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Um, I think it's a little bit of both.
I would say it's definitely awealth wound because you don't
have to work hard for your money.
But some people enjoy workinghard, so it it.
It could be a wealth wisdom.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It kind of depends on your no it's wound because if
you always work hard for money,then eventually nobody can work
hard forever.
So it's definitely a woundbecause money does not require
hard work.
I'm bad with money.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Wealth wound.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Most certainly.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Rich people are greedy.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That is a wealth wound.
Most certainly.
Yep, Most certainly.
Rich people are greedy.
That is a wealth wound.
Most certainly.
Yeah, Not all rich people aregreedy, which is why we have a
wonderful nonprofit industry inthis country.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right.
If I have more, others haveless.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Wealth wound, there's enough to go around for
everyone.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
All right.
So if all of those you wereable to pass, then you're
winning a gold star today.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Ooh, is it a real gold star or a sticker?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, it's a sticker on the board.
Every wound you heal becomeswisdom you embody.
So I invite you to do the workand have fun with it, experience
a different version of yourselfand create that money BFF.
I have clients who have told methat has changed their entire
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relationship with money justthat teaching.
So reflect back to us on social.
Tell us if this helped you,tell us if you didn't understand
something, if we went too faston something, let us know.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Let me ask you, Zora, you have been swimming in money
for quite some time.
What is the name of your money?
Bff.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, she's just called Money BFF, Really, yeah, yeah,
she is just called Money BFF andit allows me to, you know, to
work with her and to and toremember what she actually is.
And you know, I draw picturesof her in my journal and I um,
but I talked about her a lot on,everyone that I've ever worked
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with in coaching has some typeof um, money wound.
Right, it's just part of beinga human that lives in the US.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
US exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm glad you said US so yeah, I often will have them
like journal something Like whatwas I taught about money?
That's holding me back or howcan I make money in my BFF, and
like just have them startplaying the the what's and the
how's and the who's and andfinding the patterns themselves,
because a coach will help youwith the shortcuts in, in
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healing the wounds, and that'swhy we always advocate for get
with a coach.
If it's not us, you know.
Get with someone who you trust,who is going to align you to a
wealthy experience, and wealthis many different things for
people.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
But wealth does include money, so we hope that
this served you fully.
So much love, sending you thehighest vibrations.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
You are held.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
You are held, you are loved, all right.
So do you have anything funnyto say?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Well, you had a closing quote that we didn't use
.
What was that?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Healing your money wounds isn't just about getting
rich, it's about getting free.
It's about getting free.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's about getting free.
So when you said that, rightwhen that was made audible, the
very first thing that I wasthinking of is what am I going
to be free of, right?
And the minute I said that,there's this huge laundry list
and the very first thing thatcame up is looking at price tags
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oh that's the first thingyou're free from what?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
what I feel like healing your money wounds isn't
just about getting rich, it'sabout getting free.
What I would get free from itwould be stress, yeah, yeah, is
the more abundance, the less Istress and the more abundance,
the more I can give, the more Ican serve love the more I can
fulfill my purpose andfulfillment is a huge part of
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freedom is that if you are doingthe thing that you love, you're
going to feel fulfilled.
And if the thing that you loveis some type of service, some
act of service, then you'regoing to be free from feeling
like what you're doing is onlymaking you money, what you're
doing is only making somebodyelse money, what you're doing is
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inconsequential to being here,and those types of feelings make
you feel imprisoned, make youfeel stuck.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So I would just say, being free for me would be more
abundant, so I can give moreback.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And feel the fulfillment of giving.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'll also be free to be Santa you can be Santa.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I like being.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Santa, I like buying people gifts.
You can be Santa, you're goingto be Santa.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I like being Santa.
I like buying people gifts.
You're going to be Santa.
I love that.
You're going to sit on your lap, I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Just rolling in and oh, I got you something.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I was looking for this.
I know you were.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, you do like doing that you do like.
What is really really exciting about Zuri?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
What is really exciting.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Is that she is married to a really really fine
motherfucker, you know what I'msaying.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He's fine.
He's fine With a Y.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
He's a fox, he's fine .
He's a foxy, fine fellow Nope.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Okay, what are we in 1930s?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We can't use fellow anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
A foxy fine fellow, a foxy fine fellow A foxy fine
fellow For short.
I need a break.
Yeah, you do, I need you.
Welcome to the EmpowermentCouple Podcast, where your path
to self-mastery expands.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
Together we are the Empowerment Couple.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:40):
I got nothing, you're supposed to say something.
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, well, let's dive into the show.
Today we are going to betalking about money medicine.
We have talked about all thesefree medicines in our show prior
.
We've talked about so manythings Gratitude medicine and
kissing medicine and touchmedicine but money if you have a
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healthy relationship with money, money can be medicinal as well
.
Oh, money has a massivelymedicinal effect, especially in
this type of playing field,because if you live in the US or
you live anywhere in the world,that money is a factor a major
player.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And it's also it's not having money.
That's not the problem, it'syour relationship to money.
Yeah, no, so you can have a lotof money and still have money
wounds.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Money is not your problem.
Money is never the problem.
The problem is that you have anissue with money, or you were
taught an issue, or you have awound that creates an issue, but
money is just energy Correct.
And so, yes, you could say,greed is a problem, but it's not
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money's fault, right?
Yeah, so today we're going tobe talking about money, medicine
for wealth wounds, and so yourwounds are going to be tended to
today, honey.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We got a Band-Aid full of cash.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We do have a Band-Aid full of cash and abundance and
all of the things that wealthencompasses.
So wealth isn't just money, butit certainly helps.
It's a partner in wealth.
So let's heal some wealthwounds and receive some
abundance, shall we?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We shall.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Money isn't just numbers, let's be clear.
It's nervous system, energy anddeep subconscious patterning.
If you're stuck in lack andfeast and famine, or lack and
limitation, we say, your bodymight be holding your wealth
hostage.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So nervous system.
If that's wacky, it's going tobe a repellent to wealth your
money.
Wounds, though, are not yourfault, but they are your
responsibility to heal.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And yes, I love that part about responsibility right,
Because we all inherit moneywounds from our parents and our
loved ones Environments yeah.
Environment, exactly TV, allthat stuff.
But it is again ourresponsibility.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So you get to take your power back and reshape what
kind of relationship you wantto have with money.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
What kind of world is that?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
We have free range, so we want you to use this
episode as a bridge betweenpractical money healing and
energetic abundance with nervoussystem and shadow integration.
So last week's episode is sopowerful for what we're doing
today.
So we're definitely laying thegroundwork for you to have total
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integration of every part ofyourself in a healthy way and to
live the most wealthy, abundantlife possible.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now, if you're tuning in and this is the first time
that you're hearing the conceptof wealth wounds, let's get into
it.
So wealth wounds are emotional,generational and energetic
imprints that create scarcitypatterns, fear of receiving
money, Maybe you'reundercharging or you're
overspending.
So let's dive into the top 10core money wounds.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right, so there's the scarcity wound.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Number one and that's stemming from the belief that
there is not enough, there'snever enough to go around Right,
and the root from that is isusually growing up with lack,
maybe some survival basedenvironments, you know, if
you're cutting coupons andwhatnot, or collective scarcity
trauma, like during certain wars, right, that will create some
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sort of trauma and the symptomsof those are hoarding chronic,
under-earning, panic aroundspending.
There may be some compulsivesaving or some overspending.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So let's just for each one of these, the scarcity
wound.
If any of this sounds like you,just jot it down if you aren't
driving, or put this in yourphone and just sit with this,
because we're going to give yousome ways to work and deal with
a scarcity wound.
Okay.
Correct, correct so number twois the worthiness wound, and
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this is the belief that I don'tdeserve to have money.
And the root is unmet emotionalneeds in childhood, low
self-worth people-pleasingpatterns.
Low self-worth people-pleasingpatterns Any of this sound
familiar.
So symptoms are undervaluingyour work, fear of charging,
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overgiving, self-sabotage whenreceiving abundance and we'll
get into this more later.
So, again, this was theworthiness wound.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The worthiness wound.
Number three is Is the safetywound right, and this is
stemming from the belief thatmoney isn't safe or having money
makes me unsafe.
The root from this usuallycomes from some financial trauma
enmeshment or witnessing moneybeing used to control for harm
(07:24):
right.
The symptoms of that isavoiding money.
Or you have some anxiety whenwealth increases, you get some
money in your bank account andyou kind of freak out or
attracting financial chaos,right.
So you're in that system whereyou owe so much money and you're
just in that loop.
That really is going to stemfrom that safety wound.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Number four would be the rejection or abandonment
wound and the belief is if Ihave or want more money, I won't
be loved.
And the root is being rejectedor shamed for success or desires
.
And the symptoms aredownplaying goals, rejecting
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ambition, fearing being too muchin quotes, too much, you're too
much, or keeping yourself small.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, the keeping yourself small is something that
we see on a regular basis withthe rejected or abandonment
wound.
The next number five is thecontrol wound, and this stems
from the belief that I needmoney to feel in control or
others will control me with it,right?
So you want to arm yourselfwith money so that you can't be
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controlled by other people.
The root really comes fromfinancial manipulation, power
struggles in childhood orpartnerships.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And again.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We see a lot of these , we are taught a lot of these
wounds from our parents and frommedia, and the symptoms, of
course, are going to beover-controlling financial
decisions, right?
So you have to have all controlor a hyper-independence?
Maybe there's a fear of askingfor support?
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So you're doing this on yourown.
You are a lone wolf.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
At all costs.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
At all costs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And so number six would be the guilt wound, and it
comes from the belief that it'swrong to have money when others
don't, and the root issurvivor's guilt, religious
programming, systemic injusticeawareness.
So if you're watching the newsand you're constantly seeing
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other people suffer, it mightmake you feel like the rich
people are all bad and the poorpeople are all great and it's
bad to be rich.
That would be an example.
So the symptoms are giving allyour money away, avoiding
earning more or feeling bad whenthriving.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, the number seven is the shame wound, and
this stems from the belief thatI'm bad with money or I'm not
smart enough or I failedfinancially.
These are some beliefs that aregoing to be generating the
shame wound, and the root fromthat really is going to come
from past debts or failures, orbeing shamed for not knowing how
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to manage money, even thoughit's not taught very well At all
money, even though it's nottaught very well right, and the
symptoms are hiding fromfinances or procrastination, or
not asking for help or learningabout money.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right, like learning ways that your money could be
working for you, for example.
So number eight is the loyaltywound and the belief is, if I
become wealthy, I'll betraywhere I came from.
So if there's a part of youthat is holding probably a
subconscious part of you that'sholding a attachment and an
identity connection to yourorigin stories maybe it was
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poverty is that you're afraid ofbetraying yourself and this can
be subconscious.
This is not something thatyou're consciously thinking.
The root is loyalty to familystruggles, cultural identity or
ancestral hardship.
So often we're carrying thecycles of what's happened to our
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ancestors.
The symptoms of this are holdingyourself back to stay connected
to your roots or not outshineothers.
Yeah, so that was the loyaltywound.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We know people like that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Number nine, the masculine wound, and this stems
from the belief that money istied to masculine dominance,
greed or oppression.
This stems from negativeassociations with patriarchal
structures or toxic capitalism.
The symptoms are rejectingstructure, resisting receiving
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or demonizing money itself.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, okay.
Number 10 is the feminine wound, and this is the belief that
it's not feminine to want ormanage money.
And some of this is from badprogramming.
The root is conditioning thatwomen shouldn't be powerful,
wealthy or in control.
I wonder who was working thatconditioning?
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Maybe the patriarchy?
Maybe, yeah, exactly, maybe thepatriarchy.
Maybe the symptoms aredisempowered in financial
decisions, relying on others andguilt around desire.
And this is major becausethere's generations of women
that are.
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They have this programmingsubconsciously running the show
and they don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Now, the interesting about these wounds is that we
can actually carry multiplewounds.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yes, it's likely you have multiple wounds and the
remedy is coming up, so don'tstress.
When we look at the top 10, wecan easily see areas where we
need improvement ourselves.
Like nobody is perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It stated that the 78 of Americans live paycheck to
paycheck, which, of course, isthat scarcity cycle.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and that comes from Dave Ramsey.
There's a Harvard study that Iwanted to mention too is that
childhood experiences offinancial insecurity correlate
with financial stress inadulthood.
So it's just that cycle.
You know, patterning thingsthat we have all talked about on
the show is that if youexperience it as a child and
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you're experiencing it now, it'sbecause of a pattern that needs
to be broken.
It's a cycle that needs to endof a pattern that needs to be
broken.
Yes, the cycle that needs to endand likely you might be
listening to this because thisis part of your role here is to
break this ancestral cycle ofscarcity and treating money as
if money is bad, right, orwhatever your wound is.
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Whichever one of these seemlike oh, should I have that?
And if you're said yes to all10, maybe nine and 10, the
feminine and masculine are alittle bit off, but if you said
yes to a lot of them, that'sokay.
That just means that you havethe awareness that you need to
do some work, and work can befun.
It depends how you decide toapproach it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, and congratulations to you if you
just identified that you have amoney wound based off of the
information that we sent youExactly.
Now the cool thing is based onneuroscience.
They state that money stressactivates the amygdala, leading
to the fight-flight-freezeresponse around financial
decisions.
So imagine what your life isgoing to be like once you heal
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those wounds right.
You're going to have anenergetic come up.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Right, and what that neuroscience is really saying is
that your nervous system isgoing to be a repellent.
It's not going to allow if youare in fight, flight or freeze,
you are not in receptivity modeto receive more abundance.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, the bank is closed.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Right, and so everything in our Hold the Vibe
course is about holding afrequency that matches the
frequency of what you want,correct.
And if you are holding afrequency of oh fuck, how am I
going to get through the month,then you are going to continue
to create that cycle.
It just becomes a pattern.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Your subconscious beliefs about money are often
inherited, but they're notchosen, so you can choose
whether or not you want to havethose wounds.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And healing your money wounds is spiritual work,
because abundance requiressafety.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes.
And what does money buy you?
Safety.
You can pad yourself with money.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes, and also it buys you freedom.
I mean, I would just say thatthe best thing that money can do
for you as your money BFF is toprotect you, like you said, and
to provide freedom, and I thinkthat that's at the core of why
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people are having a a moneywound is that they feel trapped.
Therefore, they feel thatthey're imprisoned by money,
rather than money is freeingthem.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah.
And all that comes from within.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, and then they can only be a match for lack.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So let's dive into how money trauma lives in the
nervous system.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So financial instability in childhood, for
example, it imprintshypervigilance around spending,
saving, having just anythingaround money, so that
instability creates a foundationof stress and the vagus nerve
plays a role of how safe we feelreceiving and managing money.
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So if you haven't done vagusnerve work, there's a connection
to your nervous system, whichyour vagus nerve is the master
of, and the amount of money thatyou will receive and how you
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feel when you have it and whatyou then do with it.
So nervous system dysregulationcan manifest as overspending,
under-earning or rejectingabundance opportunities due to
fear.
An example would be getting alarge payment but immediately
feeling the urge to get rid ofit and spend it.
This equals nervous systemseeking familiar scarcity and
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you might not even be consciousof this.
Again, these could besubconscious programs from
childhood Good old childhood,right.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Good old childhood.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
If your nervous system doesn't feel safe with
abundance, it will sabotage it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, and case point.
We've heard stories afterstories after stories of people
who will win the lottery orthey'll win a massive amount of
money or inherit a massiveamount of money and within years
, within a year or a month, theyare worse off than they were
before they got the money.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right, Because if you never have managed money and
you came from scarcity, youoften misspend, overspend,
misspend all of the things thatwe just said.
But also you might be makinginvestments that are scams.
You might be like, oh well, letme see what I can do with this,
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and so that's.
The risk is that if you don'tlearn about money, your wounds
will harm you.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, and here's the other thing about wounds is like
if you know you are coming intoa lot of money right within the
next couple of months or weeks,you're going to hit this huge
jackpot or a huge project thatis going to be done and you
still have money wounds.
Those money wounds will beexacerbated by the extra money
that's coming in.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right, and I have clients that make millions of
dollars and are always stressedabout money, correct.
And it's like I have alsoclients who are not making as
much, who are never stressedabout money, and so really, your
wound is not money specific towhat you are calling in
oftentimes.
Oftentimes, it's that yourwound is creating a pattern in
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your nervous system and thenyour nervous system is just
repeating the pattern, correct,it's familiar.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We did it at the same time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Let's play a game.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, I love games.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I know how.
About we play what the Fook?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
What the Fook.
What the Fook I haven't playedthat in a long time.
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I know let's play, okay, so I've got some money.
Abundance, scarcity related.
What the Fooks Are you readyfor this?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I am Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I am, I am Okay, I'm going to see if I can shock you,
okay.
So did you know that scarcitylowers IQ by up to 13 points?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, so research from Princeton shows that just
thinking about financialscarcity, like how to pay bills,
for example, like oh no, Idon't have enough, I have too
much month and not enough.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Not enough, not enough paycheck.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Not enough.
Paycheck to cover that monthReduces cognitive function the
equivalent of losing a fullnight of sleep.
Yikes Can you even believe thatA full night of sleep Yikes?
Can you even believe that Afull night of sleep?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So if you are an insomniac and you have money
issues, you never sleep.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And maybe your money issues are why you don't sleep.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Ah, that's a catch-22 right there.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Are you ready for another one?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay.
So just talking about money,for example, like we live in the
US, if you're listening to ussomewhere else, did you know
that most Americans can't handlea $500 emergency without going
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into debt?
A $500 emergency?
So that means they are livingso close.
So, like we said, it'sestimated 60% to 70% of
Americans live paycheck topaycheck and many can't cover
that unexpected $500 expensewithout going into debt.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yikes.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So meaning they're not pulling from their account
to like deal with breaks.
Let's say breaks are like a 500or $600 job on your car, you
know you go tune up and they'relike, oh, it's going to be 600
bucks.
And you're like, why?
Like, oh, your breaks are outor it doesn't pass inspection or
whatever Right.
And you're like, oh shit, I gotto use a credit card just to
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cover this expense, and then I'mgoing to pay 18 to 20% on this
interest rate of the credit cardto cover this $500 expense.
So there's this constantscarcity cycle happening.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, did you like that one?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I do.
I do it is scary, though it'svery scary.
Yes, another interesting whatthe fluke is that.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
only 90% of US dollars exist only digitally.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Only 90%.
So 90% of US dollars exist onlydigitally.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh yeah, most certainly we no longer have the
gold standard Right.
So only about 10% of the moneyin the US is physical cash,
which is why I never have cash,but I do.
I do now carry cash, but therest is just numbers on a screen
.
It's all just digital.
It's created and moved by banksand digital systems.
It's all digital digital.
It's created and moved by banksand digital systems.
It's all digital currency.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Which, in my opinion, makes it even easier to
manifest it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Exactly, we're just manifesting numbers, just digits
.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Just digits.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, here's another.
What the fook?
Did you know that money beliefsare formed by age seven?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
By age seven.
Oh God, I'm looking at my ageseven.
I was like, oh yeah, yeah, Icame into this world wounded
with money.
You know what I mean?
It's like money wound, moneywound, money wound, money wound.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You just came out of the womb with like a scratch
yeah exactly, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh man, he's scratched already.
What is that?
Oh, that's his money wound.
Oh, he learned that in uteroUtero, oh, utero Utero, that's
right.
Sadly, by age seven Iofficially had tasted government
cheese.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You had already tasted it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, I had tasted government cheese.
I was like yeah, this is gross.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's nasty, but it's cheese, eat it, right, is it
though?
Yeah, so research shows yourcore money mindset is largely
set by age seven and based onyour early environment, family
habits and subconsciousconditioning.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And you know I want to go back to that.
Second.
What the fuck, when you'retalking about the $500 expense
will wipe out a lot of families.
I would welcome a $500 expense.
Most of our expenses are likefive grand.
It's like what.
I would take a $500 expense.
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I'd be like no biggie, we gotthat.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But yeah, lately we've been redoing stuff $4,000,
$6,000,.
No, biggie, we got that, butyeah, lately we've been redoing
stuff Like 4,000, 6,000, boom,boom.
We've been upgrading our house,yeah exactly.
When you upgrade your house,let me tell you it ain't $500,
honey, Exactly.
And the surprise is it's like agood episode of you know, like
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an HGTV show, where you're like,okay, here's your budget, oh,
it's going to be $20,000.
And you're like, yeah, triplethat.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh, I didn't see this .
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh, I didn't see this .
Oh, we're going to have thisissue, so it's yeah it's like a.
Ben Stiller movie.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Everything's great about your house, but the
foundation that's going to bereplaced.
Oh my God, don't say that,Sorry, House.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Don't listen to him.
He's just playing games.
We love you House.
All right, give me one moremind-boggling.
I have another one aboutscarcity Little fashion scarcity
.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
There's not enough to go around, there's not enough
to go around.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Did you know that scarcity makes you more likely
to stay in toxic situations?
Jobs relationships etc.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Say that one more time.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Scarcity makes you more likely to stay.
So scarcity about money, moneyscarcity, a money wound where
you never have enough, makes youmore likely to stay in toxic
jobs, relationships, situations,studies show scarcity mindset
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narrows your focus and it limitsperceived options.
So it kind of gives you thistunnel vision where you can only
see a little bit ahead of youand it's just about surviving.
It keeps people stuck inunderpaying jobs, toxic dynamics
, self-sacrificing roles, toxicrelationships it really just
locks you in.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's a showing of the power of patterns.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
The power of patterns .
The power of patterns, exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You can either be in a positive pattern or a negative
pattern.
Let me tell you when you're ina positive pattern, you ain't
got no wounds.
Money's coming in abundance.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Negative wound I'm just adding a little bit more
onto that one.
A little salt Scarcity.
Yeah, just add a little.
A little salt.
Salt cuz, just a little bit ofwhipped cream on top of this is
that when you have scarcitythinking, it decreases your
long-term thinking as well.
So you not only get tunnelvision, but you also get
long-term blindness.
Right, because when you're insurvival mode, people are less
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likely to invest, save or planfor the future.
They're not looking at theirmoney.
They're just like you know.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I got to eat Right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Because the brain becomes so focused on the
short-term relief of like, howdo I get out of this?
How do I get out of this, howdo I get out of this?
And if you've ever seen on TVor in person a trapped mouse,
that is what you can think ofwith scarcity is that it's only
looking at what's right in frontof them and it's acting very,
very quickly and fast.
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And it has this mouse visionwhere it can only see very, very
, you know, right in front of it.
It's not looking from a vantagepoint like eagle vision.
We talk about that a lot incoaching.
It's like how are you lookingat the problem?
And if you're only looking atmouse vision, then you're going
to have a limited view of theoptions, the possibilities, and
I just want to end this game bysaying that the universe is not
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on a budget.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like you, you can change all of this.
All of this is totallychangeable.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
The universe can afford you your own planet if
you want to.
It's massive and you know.
Going back to, you know thewhole foundation based off of
the whole Maslow's hierarchy ofneeds.
The bottom is that foundationis unstable.
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So it's going to be really hardfor you to make those wise
money decisions and allowabundance to come in, because
you are just focusing on thecracks in your foundation.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Mm-hmm, yeah, so let's dive back into our show
and talk about some of theprescription your money medicine
.
So you can return to makingmoney your BFF instead of acting
like money is just a billcollector.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Your money is your best friend or your worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Exactly so money, medicine, practices let's give
you five of them.
Okay, I'll start.
How about number one could besomatic safety.
So if you listened earlier,last month we talked about um
breath work, and breath workcould um be a somatic experience
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for you to create safety, tocalm the nervous system, before
you make financial decisions.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So reset your body and your mind before you jump
into finances.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yes, and how you can do that is you can put hand on
heart.
This will help you with yourbreathing, just to ground
yourself.
You can also go outside andground yourself and you can
actually even take your computeroutside.
Look at whatever yourspreadsheet or app or whatever
you're using on your phone tomanage your finances or your
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checking accounts.
Do it outside, where you haveyour feet on the ground, and you
can get some somatic safety,because the universe is going to
hold you in a position of powerand it's going to basically
charge you when you are standingon grass or putting your feet
on a rock or something.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it puts you in a celebratory state, right, you
get to celebrate money, you getto be a part of that money,
bringing in ritual, and when youground yourself, you're
literally connecting with thepower of the heavens.
It's just trifold Exactly.
The next thing you can do isreparent your inner money child.
So one way to do it.
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If you're big into journalingwhich I am, respond to this
prompt what did I hear aboutmoney growing up?
Again, what did I hear aboutmoney growing up?
Also, when you're speakingabout money, use safe words,
right.
Give yourself permission tolove on your inner child and
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teach that inner child aboutabundance.
So, be very careful about thewords that you're using when
you're talking about money.
Right, you want to create aopportunity of safety for your
inner child.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And then number three would be shadow integration.
So everything that we talkedabout on last week's show, about
integrating your shadow.
So I want you to identifyjudgments around wealth or
wealthy people.
So it's easy to do that becausecelebrities are easy to find.
They're constantly in our faceand they're constantly showing
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what wealth they have right.
So identify any judgments thatyou have around that.
Or, if you are in proximity towealthy people, notice what
comes up in you and what youfeel and if it's envy, if it,
you know what are, what are thethings and then ask what part of
me am I rejecting that couldhelp me receive more.
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So, like Mike was saying,journaling you can journal on
this.
You can also use this as yourgrounding meditation question.
You can ask this before you goto sleep, if you tend to get
answers in your dreams.
That would be an excellent wayfor you to integrate the part of
yourself that you're rejecting,so you can receive more.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That is a great question too.
What part of me am I rejecting?
Just note that there is a partof you that is rejecting
currently rejecting money If youhave a money issue, money wound
.
There is a part of you that isrejecting the money, the
abundance, the wealth, all thatstuff that you are wanting.
So number four energeticreceiving practice.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yes, I love this.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
We like to create practices and habits around the
things that we want, which iswhy we can become more in
alignment with it.
So a good, energetic receivingpractice would be saying thank
you, I receive that, withoutdeflecting it.
So if someone gives yousomething, thank you, I receive
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it.
Someone gives you either money,someone gives you advice,
someone gives you an opportunity, a compliment thank you, I
receive that and do not deflectit right, so you want to so
don't devalue it by.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
like you know, you get the sum of money and then
just being like, oh, I don'tdeserve it, and immediately, if
you have that energy, it's goingto push it away.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Correct and you can use that as you are, say,
invoicing.
You can use that as you areasking for a raise.
You can use that when you arewanting to move up financially.
Thank you, I received that andget into that mood, that mode,
even before you have received it.
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Right, yep, so you want tovisualize holding and expanding
abundance without fear?
Right, visualize holding andexpanding abundance without fear
.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, Instead of like .
You know, oftentimes if peopleare in lack, they'll think about
money and be like, oh, like,but if I have this, then I'll
have to do this.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'll be in a higher tech bracket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be this.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So, just like, whatever the fear that's
associated and dive into that,figure out, like when you
receive, what comes up for you,correct, correct.
Visualize yourself receivingand what comes up for you.
Correct, visualize yourselfreceiving and what comes up.
Okay, number five and the lastone is boundaries and wealth.
It's a huge one and it's notfive because it's least.
It's five because meh hit youwith this.
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Scarcity often comes from leaks.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Whoa leaks, Leaks.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Energetic leaks.
So are you setting boundariesaround your time?
If not, then you are creatingscarcity, and this is money
medicine we are giving you byhelping you identify.
Boundaries are crucial towealth.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So if money is just energy which we know it is, I
think everyone listeningprobably aligns with that it's
just energy, everything isenergy, and if it is just energy
, then you are likely leaking.
If you aren't abundant, you areleaking somewhere.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now, when we say leaking, there's so many ways of
deciphering that.
I mean energetic leaks, ofcourse, but then there's
financial leaks.
Right, you might be paying forthings that you're not supposed
to be paying for.
Uh, you may come into money andbe afraid of coming into money
knowing that family members aregoing to come in and try to um,
uh, ask for for money.
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So that's where the boundariescome in.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And when I teach this in my group, um coaching, I
often refer to money as a person.
And if money is your BFF andyou haven't and you've been
ignoring that BFF, there's goingto be consequences to that.
So if you're ignoring what ishappening with your money, if
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you're not investing time inthat relationship with that BFF,
if you aren't looking andfeeling connected and excited
about your mutual celebratoryprocess in a relationship, it's
just a money.
Bff is just a visualrepresentation of how you feel
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about money, and so I often haveclients draw like what's your
money BFF look like?
And I often have them identifyhow they are showing up for
their BFF.
Is it a reciprocal relationship,Meaning, are you tending and
caring and learning andexploring and celebrating really
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like?
Treat it like that and that's.
That's something that I havefound over and over again really
helps people in get throughsome of their scarcity is to to
rewrite the script on what moneyactually is.
Yes, it, it's energy, but makeit a BFF.
If you are a good friend toyour money, your money will be a
good friend to you.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I love that.
I love that.
The money BFF, it's youpracticing the conscious
intention to create wealth.
When you start talking aboutmoney, it's not automatic right,
because money isn't automatic.
Money takes the form ofwhatever you create it to be
right.
So if you create a consciousintention that money is your
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friend, your best friend, yourlover, maybe even a version of
your inner child, something thatyou can give love to, that
conscious intention will changeeverything about your life in
regards to how money is going tofind you.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Right yeah, so I just wanted to add that.
And this whole point of moneymedicine is, it's about creating
safety in your body to hold theabundance you desire.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Mm-hmm, I love that.
I'll even go so far as to saylike from Wayne Dyer.
He states that abundance is notsomething that we acquire, it's
something that we tune into.
Right?
So that's where the consciousintention is.
The minute that you startrewriting your thoughts about
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money, that is when you tuneinto those higher abundance
levels.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
All right.
So pop quiz, you're going totell me if this is a wealth
wound, a belief to rewire, orwealth wisdom, a belief to
embody.
Just pop quiz real quick.
Everyone play along.
Powered posse, let's go.
Money is the root of all evil.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
That is most certainly a wealth wound.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yep, okay, I have to work hard for money.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Um, I think it's a little bit of both.
I would say it's definitely awealth wound because you don't
have to work hard for your money.
But some people enjoy workinghard, so it it.
It could be a wealth wisdom.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It kind of depends on your no it's wound because if
you always work hard for money,then eventually nobody can work
hard forever.
So it's definitely a woundbecause money does not require
hard work.
I'm bad with money.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Wealth wound.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Most certainly.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Rich people are greedy.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That is a wealth wound.
Most certainly.
Yep, Most certainly.
Rich people are greedy.
That is a wealth wound.
Most certainly.
Yeah, Not all rich people aregreedy, which is why we have a
wonderful nonprofit industry inthis country.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right.
If I have more, others haveless.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Wealth wound, there's enough to go around for
everyone.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
All right.
So if all of those you wereable to pass, then you're
winning a gold star today.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Ooh, is it a real gold star or a sticker?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, it's a sticker on the board.
Every wound you heal becomeswisdom you embody.
So I invite you to do the workand have fun with it, experience
a different version of yourselfand create that money BFF.
I have clients who have told methat has changed their entire
(40:39):
relationship with money justthat teaching.
So reflect back to us on social.
Tell us if this helped you,tell us if you didn't understand
something, if we went too faston something, let us know.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Let me ask you, Zora, you have been swimming in money
for quite some time.
What is the name of your money?
Bff.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, she's just called Money BFF, Really, yeah, yeah,
she is just called Money BFF andit allows me to, you know, to
work with her and to and toremember what she actually is.
And you know, I draw picturesof her in my journal and I um,
but I talked about her a lot on,everyone that I've ever worked
(41:23):
with in coaching has some typeof um, money wound.
Right, it's just part of beinga human that lives in the US.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
US exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm glad you said US so yeah, I often will have them
like journal something Like whatwas I taught about money?
That's holding me back or howcan I make money in my BFF, and
like just have them startplaying the the what's and the
how's and the who's and andfinding the patterns themselves,
because a coach will help youwith the shortcuts in, in
(42:00):
healing the wounds, and that'swhy we always advocate for get
with a coach.
If it's not us, you know.
Get with someone who you trust,who is going to align you to a
wealthy experience, and wealthis many different things for
people.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
But wealth does include money, so we hope that
this served you fully.
So much love, sending you thehighest vibrations.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
You are held.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
You are held, you are loved, all right.
So do you have anything funnyto say?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Well, you had a closing quote that we didn't use
.
What was that?
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Healing your money wounds isn't just about getting
rich, it's about getting free.
It's about getting free.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's about getting free.
So when you said that, rightwhen that was made audible, the
very first thing that I wasthinking of is what am I going
to be free of, right?
And the minute I said that,there's this huge laundry list
and the very first thing thatcame up is looking at price tags
(43:12):
oh that's the first thingyou're free from what?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
what I feel like healing your money wounds isn't
just about getting rich, it'sabout getting free.
What I would get free from itwould be stress, yeah, yeah, is
the more abundance, the less Istress and the more abundance,
the more I can give, the more Ican serve love the more I can
fulfill my purpose andfulfillment is a huge part of
(43:39):
freedom is that if you are doingthe thing that you love, you're
going to feel fulfilled.
And if the thing that you loveis some type of service, some
act of service, then you'regoing to be free from feeling
like what you're doing is onlymaking you money, what you're
doing is only making somebodyelse money, what you're doing is
(44:03):
inconsequential to being here,and those types of feelings make
you feel imprisoned, make youfeel stuck.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So I would just say, being free for me would be more
abundant, so I can give moreback.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And feel the fulfillment of giving.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'll also be free to be Santa you can be Santa.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I like being.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Santa, I like buying people gifts.
You can be Santa, you're goingto be Santa.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I like being Santa.
I like buying people gifts.
You're going to be Santa.
I love that.
You're going to sit on your lap, I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Just rolling in and oh, I got you something.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I was looking for this.
I know you were.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, you do like doing that you do like.
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