Wanderlust and Wellness: Our Organic Traveler's Health Guide

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm gonna look you in the eye and you will know this
Meow.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
And then you're saying meow how to travel as an
organic freak.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Organic freak is what I did.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Organic freak.
I mean, some would call usfreaks Organic freak.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Freaky maybe, but not a freak.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I am Zuri and this is your invitation to be the
beautiful you.
Welcome to our podcast.
My co-host and partner isexpansion coach Mikey Star.

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And she's lifestyle coach, suri Star, and together
we make the empowerment couple.

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We are the founders of the Omni Media Organic
Lifestyle Company.
I am Zuri and we have teamed upto bring you a healthy
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beautiful life.
Our goal with this show is toenergize, edify and elevate your
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
Walk with us as we chart a course to living your
most beautiful life, your mostbeautiful life.
Never do that again.
Hey, what's a beautiful pod fam.
Here we go.
How to travel as an organicfreak.
Let's get this show going.
So I want to ask you, michael,mikey, mr Star, why do you

(01:38):
travel?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I travel to expand my mind.
The more I see, the moreexperience, the more my
awareness expands.
It allows me to do all kinds ofthings mentally, creatively,
and it also gives me theopportunity to really be

(02:01):
grateful of A my ability totravel and B where I live.
There's no place like home.
That usually comes abouthalfway through my trip, when
I've been sleeping on weirdhotel beds or Airbnb's I'm like,
oh my God, I just want to gethome and is it halfway usually?

(02:23):
Usually it's halfway.
Yeah, I'll say it's halfway.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And it's home sick.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's the little things.
You know the smell of yourcovers and being able to use
your own bathroom.
You know those little things.
Use your own bathroom, yes.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
You miss your toilet Like oh my toilet.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I miss you.
It's not weird and cold.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, boy, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
What about you?
What's your number one reason?
Why do you like to travel most?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I really like to adventure.
I like the adventure part of it.
I like the unknown.
When you're at the airport andlike you're already checked in,
gone through horrible TSAsecurity, and you're like, okay,
no idea what to expect.
This is going to be prettyamazing because you know the

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week's leading up to it, you'reall excited and you're like
Googling and you're watchingvideos and you're looking at
photos and you know you're allamped up about the possibilities
and they're endless because youhave no idea what to expect.
So I like that.
I like that feeling of like,okay, we're going to go
somewhere.
We've never been no idea whatto expect Because it's a totally

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different culture.
I love that.
I get excited just talkingabout it again.
Now, all right, we're going toplay a game called Da Fu.
What Da Fu?
And this one is going to beabout travel, and I have to pull
it up on my phone becausethat's where I have it.

(04:00):
Okay, so this is a story.
This game is about looking upfor a story that is just like,
no, that didn't happen, did thathappen?
No, anyway, okay, so that's DaFu.
Okay, all right.
So what do you think thelongest layover in history has

(04:26):
been?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Just the word layover gives me goosebumps.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh, yes, okay.
So I've had a lot of timeswhere I've had horrible options
for flights and I'm like, okay,I can spend $600 more and I can
get us there direct, or we cando a layover in Turkey and it'll
be, like you know, $600 cheaperper ticket for 10 hours.
And you're like, no, no, I meanI'm like why, maybe we can

(04:54):
check it stuff out?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
No, yeah, anyway, okay, reminds me of that nap we
took in Burger King.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was so awful.
Hey, that's the first and lasttime I've been a Burger King.
Yeah, peace, okay.
So, uh, worst layover.
You want to hear it, I do.
What is your guess?
Do you have any guess?
Um, da Fu, think, think Da Fu.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Anything longer than 24 hours would be horrible, so I
would state 48 hours.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Close.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, two whole days.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
No, listen, 47 years, what?
It's a real scenario.
What the fuck?
Yes, exactly.
So this guy, james Lloyd, triedto book a flight through
Skyscanner from Christchurch,new Zealand, to London, england,

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and was told he'd be spendingnearly five decades in Bangkok.
Bangkok, yeah, maybe I don'tknow what to do with service or
something, I'm not sure, butanyway.
Um.
So then he was like oh, Ibetter look into this, that
doesn't seem right.
And it goes on to say that thecustomer service rep responded

(06:19):
and said uh, to spend his timeoutside the airport terminal
becoming a Tai Chi expert orbooking a cruise.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yikes, at least Thailand's pretty.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, so 47 years.
Would you do it, yeah or no?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Uh no.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And no, that's a resounding nay.
That's a no.
All right, that's the end ofthis game of what the fuck, what
the fuck.
So did you know what the numberone reason for people not
traveling is?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I would say, uh, inconvenience, having to
actually pack clothes and leavetheir place.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Cause you know I hate packing, right?
That's my least favorite partof traveling, um, no, the number
one reason is actually cost.
So I remember when we firstreally got into adventuring, uh,
we came up with all kinds ofdifferent ways to do it on the
cheap, and so, if that's you, wehave some great travel hacks,

(07:17):
um, on our site that we're goingto link you to.
So if you are looking to travel, you're not going to have to
miss out on travel just becauseyou're also budgeting.
We figured that out for you.
We're not going to get intothat so much in this podcast,
but we do have a link for you.
Use the show notes for that, um.
But once we figured out how todo that, we started traveling a

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lot more frequently.
And then the question becamehow do we travel and still enjoy
our organic lifestyle, right?
Um?
So for those in, like, thehealth and wellness space, this
produces extreme anxiety.
I have so many friends who arelike I don't want to travel, I
don't want to leave my littleorganic bubble, um, and I get

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that, but I think it's possibleand not only think it's possible
.
I know it's possible and we'veproven that we can do that.
It does take a little bit morepreparation and a little bit
maybe more packing, um, a littlebit more deliberate action
ahead of going on the trip, um,but we just have fun with it and

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we make that a part of thewhole process is like you know,
it's kind of do some research,do a little bit of digging and
do a little extra packing, savea little time.
You're not doing things at thelast minute when you want to
continue your lifestyle, um, butyeah, it's absolutely possible
and we're going to tell you how.

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In this show we have hats foreating, sleeping, exercising,
supplementing um, andcommunicating, so that you can
have an organic lifestyle on theroad, no matter where you go in
any country.
We have we've done it.

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Like I said before, really justthe very first tip, and kind of
the most crucial tip, is toresearch and prepare ahead of
traveling to your destination.
Um, you'll need to know what topack and how to dress, of
course, anytime you're goingsomewhere, but you're also going
to be looking at, um.
You know, like what, what dothey grow in that country?

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So, for example, you know, whenwe went to Costa Rica and I
have lemon water every morningwith Cayenne, it's like, oh,
they don't have lemons in CostaRica, so I had to adjust, right,
um, headline water instead, butjust things that like, if
you're used to having certainthings, and here's the thing,
like traveling outside of yourcomfort zone is kind of the part

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point of like traveling right,so you're not.
It's not going to be perfect.
We're not looking for a perfectsituation, but we are looking
for, like, if you are doingcertain things for your health,
you don't have to make theexcuse like, oh, I can't go on
vacation because then I'm goingto give up my exercise routine,
or am I?
You know, like, there are waysto do it.

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You just have to be creativeand we're going to leave you
with that.
So, starting with food, um, youknow, what I have found is that
knowing how to find organic andwhat it's called in that country
is the first step.
Like, what do they call it?
You know, in Spain we were justin Spain Um, they call it a

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couple of different things.
They call it, you know, a, bio,b, I, o, as, or bio, and that's
what you'll see on packages.
But you can end.
You see that all over Europe,by the way, um, but they also
call it ecological, um, and theyhave a few different other
names.
But just knowing that ahead oftime and we'll talk about that

(10:52):
in our Spain episode and wecover in every single place we
go we give you all the insidescoops of how to find organic.
But, um, you want to look about, look at that ahead of time.
You also want to find out ifthat country's ag is um, you
know what it looks like.
What are their rules?
Like, just this is just like aGoogle Sush that you're going to

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do about that country or that,um, you know place.
If you're going even to adifferent state, like, are they
growing GMOs?
Are they using new?
Next, um, uh, like what doestheir food production look like?
But do, what ingredients shouldyou be looking for?
So you're just going to kind ofhave fun Googling and figuring
that out.

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Um, europe actually is one ofthe easiest places to travel
because, like I said, you canfind bio everywhere and in some
ways it's a lot better than theU?
S because they use a lot lesspreservatives and things are
labeled and there's moreregulations on food.
So you know, if you're eatingpotato chips, I remember when we

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were in Greece and we were likethese potato chips have potato
and um salt, and then it had theoil that it was cooked in it,
and it was actually cooked inclean oil.
I couldn't believe it.
I was like that's all there is.
And they were so delicious, um.
But even looking at somethinglike you know that you would get

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in the U S U S brands, likecomparing those side by side,
you can see that they for sureare already making these, these
items, much cleaner in Europe.
So you're not going to havethat problem.
So much, um.
But I also look for localfarmers markets.
I Google stores that cater tobio or organic ahead of time.

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I also look um at restaurantsthat cater to organic travels,
and then we always like to get aplace that has a kitchen If not
a full kitchen, then you know,like a kitchenette, um, and then
we'll bring like a hot plate,slow cooker, tea kettle, um.
We always like to have a placethat has a refrigerator, um.

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And then we ask usually, let'ssay, for staying at an Airbnb or
we're staying at a you know anice hotel.
We will ask them ahead of time.
We'll we'll ask to speak withthe concierge or the host and
say you know, what is yourkitchen utensils look like what
do you?
Do you guys have plastic, is itstainless steel?
And we'll just start aconversation and we'll also ask

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them, like, are thererestaurants or are there organic
markets?
And they're usually so excitedto share with you about their
place that they are happy tochat with you.
So if I'm traveling abroad, youknow, a lot of times I'll use
WhatsApp and I'll just starthaving a conversation and strike
up a friendship with them andask them about food.
Um, and everybody likes food.

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That's what's awesome.
It's that you really, everybodylikes food, so it's super easy
to say, hey, what's yourfavorite restaurant?
Everybody has a favoriterestaurant.
The concierge is going to havea list for you Um, what's your
you know?
And ask them, like I really Ihave this day, or this is my
restriction, or what should I belooking for?
So, um, have fun with it.

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And the other thing I do this isjust like a couple little
tricks for staying super healthyis, um, I pack little packets
of protein powder.
I really like Nutiva's justhemp powder, or I like Truvani's
vanilla powder, um, they'reboth vegan, um, but super clean,
um, and then I add a little bitof spirulina and I will add um.

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And I add spirulina becauseit's an antioxidant,
anti-inflammatory, containschlorophyll, um and algae to
keep you alkaline whiletraveling and it regulates your
immune system.
It's high in protein andvitamins, and so I like to just
make sure that I have some typeof protein source while I'm on
the road.
That can be used at the lastminute, like, let's say, I don't

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like a meal or whatever.
That just kind of safeguards meto make sure that I have a
healthy protein source and thatI'm getting some type of greens
into my system.
Um, I also add in chia seedsbecause they contain omega three
fatty acids and they help keepyour body hydrated and they're
high in fiber.

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Um, and you know, those are kindof important when you're
traveling.
You're always gettingdehydrated.
You're always, you know, yourdigestive system is changing, um
, and you're usually your timeclock is changing, so everything
kind of gets out of whack andthese things keep you regular,
they keep you hydrated and theykeep you healthy.
Um so, and then I just add itto like juice or water or

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coconut water.
Then I will also use like chiaseeds for like yogurt or oatmeal
or salad, and so there's littlehacks that I like for food when
I'm traveling that just kind ofum offset some of the travel
things that come up.
You know, when we go, let's say, to a place that has a kitchen,
I always ask them what utensilsthey have, and the reason why

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is because a lot of timesthey'll have plastic and they'll
have like Teflon pans that Iswear have seen better days.
They always are like.
You know this, like sheddingthey're shedding or they have a
big hole and you're like come on, you know paying a lot of money
to stay here.
Oftentimes, if you're payingfor a place that has a kitchen,

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you're paying for that kitchen.
So I like to ask ahead of timeand then sometimes, if I don't
get good communication, we'lljust pack stainless steel pan
and a good spatula and that kindof takes care of our mornings
and just make sure that we'renot then ingesting a bunch of
other junk because you know wearen't used to it.

(16:44):
You know we've created alifestyle where we're not used
to it.
So, um, I also have like a fulllist of what I pack for plain
food.
I usually pack like a rollingyeti.
Or we have a travel and coolerbag that I really like to, um,
and in that cooler bag I'll havelike utensils and napkins and

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water wipes and hand sanitizer.
Um, so, again, like some ofthis is just like packing and
knowing how to pack and how tomake.
Like this preparation is likeeverything, and once you do it
once and you kind of create asystem, then you just repeat it
every time that you're going togo to town.

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I have a list and we'll provideall of that in the blog so you
guys can really dive in if thisinterests you.
Um, you know there's littlehacks, like I pack frozen fruit
because it makes a great snackbut it also takes the place of
the ice in the cooler so I'm nothaving to dump out water or
deal with TSA if I get delayed,or something like that.

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Um, I like cherries becausethey promote sleep.
Um, we also bring mangoesbecause they're like basically
Mike and Zarelle's favorite.
Um, I'm like Sorbet without thesugar.
But if you're extremely picky,you could also freeze meals and

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you can do that in siliconepouches without flagging TSA.
There's so many tricks, sowe'll put all that in the blog,
in the show notes, and we havehorrible stories about TSA
taking away stuff, so we reallyhave like foolproof this.
If you live in the US and you'relistening and you're thinking,
there's no way I could take that.

(18:29):
No, we figured it out.
So trust us, we've got yourback.
We have had the painfulexperience of going through TSA
after going to Erwan andspending like a couple hundred
dollars on a bunch of food andwe're so excited.
And then which, by the way, ifyou go to Erwan, you could spend
a couple hundred dollars andget three things.

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But, that being said, erwan isone of our favorite stores.
In May we were in a rush and wegot organic guacamole.
I wanna say it was like six or$7, right, it was expensive.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Either that or 16.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Or, yeah, it could have been 16.
I don't know, we'll price checkthat for you.
But regardless, we went throughTSA and I wasn't planning on
bringing it, but you got a bunchof stuff because I think we
thought we were gonna be delayedor something.
I think Obama was in town andit was clogging up.
Anyway, I remember there weresome details that made us think
we might need extra food and TSAtook away our organic guacamole

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from Erwan.
It was like it's a very sad day.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
And the person who took it was so excited they
looked at it.
I saw their eyes kind of bold.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Mind you, it's sealed and it's not soupy, so there
was no reason for them to takeit.
But we figured out some thingsthat trigger them and so we have
some tricks and hacks and we'llshare those with you.
But when you are traveling alot of times you might not eat

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the same things, and for that Ialways recommend, after eating
huge meal, something maybethat's heavier than usual or
that you weren't sure how it wascooked.
I like to drink a glass ofgrapefruit juice, if possible,
and that really avoids theinsulin spike which will store
fat in your body.
And then I really recommend, ifpossible, depending where

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you're going, so take a walkafter your meal so that you're
digesting and kind ofstimulating that digestion and
yoga.
I mean, you could talk a lotabout that, but digestion, yoga
once you're back at your room,and the more energy you burn
from those heavy meals thatmight not have been cooked the
way that you're used to, theless it'll stay on you and weigh

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you down.
But speaking of you know, likegetting weighed down, what would
you say about water?
Because, like, I've kind ofcovered food and we'll go deeper
in the blog, but like, whatwould you say water?
Like how?
Because you're kind of the kingat like figuring that stuff out
.
What would you say?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, the water issues, the biggest part of the
water issues that, anywhere yougo, you're going to have either
one of two choices you could tapwater, which in most cases is
you know you can't drink it, oryou have plastic water.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, bottled water.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Bottled water that's in plastic bottles.
You can't really get away fromhaving to drink some plastic
water.
I like to call it plastic waterbecause it's always in plastic
water.
It always tastes like plastic.
But there are a few things thatyou can do in order to kind of
improve the taste.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yep, and let's back up for a second to say, like
hydration is so key becauseairlines like, let's say, you're
flying and typically that isthe type of travel we're talking
about.
It's super easy to take a roadtrip and, you know, pack
everything.
But if you are flying, airlinecycle the air in the cabin of a

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jet about every two minutes andthis leaves the air breathable
but also dry, really dry, andthen the cabin can end up being
as low as 6% humidity, which isdrier than a desert Like, and we
tend to be more comfortablearound 50%.
So, just naturally, 50%humidity is what we're used to.

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And again, airlines are at 6%humidity, so it's pretty drastic
.
So that's why usually after aflight, you're like I'm so
thirsty, especially if you'veslept the entire way.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, I plan to drink a full bottle of water, like a
full, large bottle of waterevery time that I'm flying
Something, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, and then and you're really good at guzzling,
some people aren't.
I would recommend that you know.
If you aren't a guzzler you candrink like some tea, like kind
of just space it out and try tomake sure.
But here's the thing you don'twant to drink the hot water on
an airplane because it's toxic.

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The EPA has tested the hotwater from airplanes and found
positive tests for coliform andindicates it's basically from
PCs or soil.
But I mean it's contaminated.
And so I have friends who are,you know, travel experts and

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also who have worked on airlinesand they don't drink the hot
water and just because the testshave shown how disgusting it is
.
So you want to fill it up atStarbucks or whatever coffee
shop that has hot water andthat's kind and will fill up
your canteen for you.
You don't want to drink any hotwater on the plane and you know,

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if you're going to Starbucksand you ask them to fill it up,
they'll even wash it out for you.
They're so nice and give them atip.
You don't have to use theircoffee or tea.
Just, you know, be kind, andthen you can take that on.
Like, once you're throughsecurity, you can take that on
with you, I like to put like aginger in my hot water, or I

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have tea bags always, and so youknow.
Then you're kind of set for thetrip.
If you're not, if you can'tguzzle water, you know, ahead of
the flight or during the flight, you know.
So a hot water canteen would begreat.
Or for those of you who don'tlike drinking water at all or
tea, another great hack to stayhydrated is coconut water, and

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let Mike tell you about that.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, of course.
I mean.
Coconut water is one of thosedrinks that are packed with
electrolytes.
So typically, when you getdehydrated, the first thing that
goes are those electrolytes.
So, and most of the bottledwater, although it will hydrate
you, it will not replace thoseelectrolytes.

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So, getting a nice you know, ifyou can find a can of organic
coconut water in the terminal,great.
If it's not organic, that's oneof those.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Just look at the ingredients.
Yeah, you can kind of flip itaround, look at the ingredients,
see what it actually has in it,how it was processed, and you
know this isn't about perfection.
This is about staying healthyand trying to sustain as much of
your healthy lifestyle aspossible while also adventuring.
And some of the airports havefiltered water dispensers.

(25:43):
You're not gonna find glasswater bottles, but so of course,
you always will have somethingthat's plastic leaching.
But if you bring your own andsome of them do, like Chicago
has, you know, refillablestations where it's reverse
osmosis and you know you coulduse that, and then Fiji water is

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high in silica, still, you know, gonna leach plastic and it's
definitely hasn't been found tobe consistently clean.
But silica is really important,you know, for us to have,
especially while we're traveling, but, and Fiji is really high
in silica.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
So Typically, it's the artesian water that you're
looking for.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, yeah, and so you like to use a stirrup pin.
You wanna talk about that?
I know we got it when we weregoing to India.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, yes, and yeah, the stirrup pin.
It's a small little handhelddevice.
You turn it on, you put it in aglass of water.
30 seconds later it filtersmost of the contaminants out of
that water.
They're also great forbackpacking, hiking.
You know, if you run out ofwater, you can literally grab a

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canteen of water from a localriver and use a stirrup pin.
So it works.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
So when you find With like a UV ray or something.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, yeah, you know if you find yourself in certain
circumstances where you don'thave access to bottled water and
the only thing that there'savailable to drink is the tap
water, then that's where thestirrup pin really comes in
handy.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yep, and also you should know ahead of time, like,
what the water quality is Like.
We knew when we were going toIndia that the water quality
wasn't gonna be good and we weregoing on a tour, you know, into
different farms and stuff likethat, and we're like we're gonna
be drinking a lot of bottledwater, which we did.
We drank a lot of bottled water, plastic bottled water, but we

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had it in case we were in asituation where we're thirsty,
which you don't wanna be thirsty.
Once you're thirsty, that meansyou're dehydrated.
That's too late, it's too late,I mean not too late.
Drink, it's not too late, right, but it's, yeah, you gotta
drink.
And then once there, like youknow, you wanna research the
water quality.
You know, like you don't wantto go to Mexico and face a

(28:10):
monozuma's revenge, right?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yes, I mean, it all comes down to research, that
little crucial moment justbefore you travel, like what you
said.
Before you're going on Google,you're checking out the organic
nomenclature, you're seeing whattype of dining experiences that

(28:32):
you're going to be lookingforward to.
So you're doing the crucialsright Food and water, yeah, and
you're just asking.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're typing into Google what's the water quality
in Spain?
What's the water?
Can I drink the water in Mexico?
If you didn't know that,obviously that kind of has some
pop culture references that ismore commonly known.
But let's say you didn't know.
That would be a drastic mistaketo make on day one.

(29:02):
But you're sitting there andeven brushing your teeth with
the water is dangerous.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, I remember when we were in India and Zarela
would order juice, I'd alwaystell the people no ice, no ice.
If it's right out of the bottlethat's fine, if they have a big
jug that's fine, but no ice,because typically the ice is
made with water that's beencontaminated.
Now it may not be contaminatedto the people who live there

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because they're used to it.
Water has adjusted, whereasours is not, so it's going to
affect us more than it willaffect the local population.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, so you can't get there and ask the local
population how's the water?
They're like it's fine.
What are you talking about?
Because they are used to it andso you really got to like.
You know, tripadvisor is greatfor that too.
Like read reviews and peoplewill give you tips.
Obviously, all the places thatwe go, we will give you tips and
tell you about that.
But let's talk about exercise,because that would be like three

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.
You know the trifecta.
Are you eating good?
Are you getting good water andhydration?
Are you moving your body?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You got to move your body Now.
It is extremely important tomove your body while you're on
vacation.
Yes, you are going to bespending a lot of time sitting
at buses, terminals, planes,boats.
Once you get to your hotel room, you're going to want to lounge
, and then there's going to belots of you know, dependent on
where you're going.
Lounging on the beach, loungingpoolside that's what you're

(30:32):
supposed to be.
You're supposed to be relaxing.
However, you also have to makeexercise as habitual as you do
at home, because your bodydoesn't stop.
It still needs Still a machine.
It's still a machine.
It still needs to move.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
So- so what are some things you like to do?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well, I'm that weird guy who brings I have a very I'm
a big into yoga.
I have a very thin yoga mat.
It comes in handy because,anywhere you go, you can lay at
your yoga mat and take 10minutes, 15 minutes.
Stretch your body, do someinversions, do some twists, and

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it will really allow your bodyto move some of its energy
around, some of its lymph around, and that, of course, is going
to boost your circulation.
It'll also help make sure thatwhen you're sitting in your
hotel in your plane chair, thatyour legs don't fall asleep.
It'll also help you relax, so-.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
So like when you're, let's say, in the terminal, you
know, or the plane forward foldsright.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
My favorite for the terminals are child's pose.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
On your yoga mat.
Don't do this on the floor.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yes, exactly On your yoga mat Child's pose.
It's a great shoulder and backopener.
It relieves some stress on yourlower back.
I like to do seated twists andthen seated forward folds and
then, if you can if dependent onyour practice if you can get in

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a nice downward dog or even,you know, a headstand or
shoulder stand, that really goesa long way in keeping your
anxiety down while you're on theplane and it helps you sleep.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And also you end up walking, sometimes in a lot of
airports.
But if you don't like, do alittle power walk, you know, get
your blood flowing before youget on the plane.
That will just allow you toeither rest if you're, you know,
going to sleep, if it's sleeptime, taking a red eye, but also
just allows you to kind of sinkin and relax so that you don't

(32:41):
have to get up as much on theflight.
Obviously, you want to stillmove your body once you're on
the flight, which is why Imentioned like forward folds.
You can do that on in your seatoftentimes, depending on what
airline you're on.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
What I typically do is when I get up to go to the
bathroom, when I'm waiting toget in the bathroom, I'll do a
forward fold right then andthere, and you know, you fold,
you count the 10, 10 nice deepbreaths.
By the time you get up,typically the bathroom's open
and you have a nice change inyour body's chemistry.
It's very quick.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
What about once we're there at the destination?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Walk as much as possible.
Walking is great.
You know, if you're a runner,run.
If you're a hiker, hike.
If you're a biker, bike, ifyou're neither, walk as much as
possible.
You know, if you have theoption to either take a five
minute cab ride or do a 15minute walk, go for the 15

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minute walk.
Your body is really going tolove you for it.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
And if you're Mike, you'll take a night walk in a
foreign country or a place wherethere are wild animals or
something scary like that, andhe'll recruit some of the people
that we're traveling with forjust you know dangerous moments
to remember and recall and laughabout, and usually he will
scare everyone with it.

(34:05):
You want to talk about that?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, night walks are great because you get the
chance to see wherever you,wherever you're going by
yourself, right, typically, thestreets are empty.
You know, you can kind of walkand check things out, but of
course you have to not be afraidof the dark or have a nice
flashlight.
I'm not afraid of dark.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
He's always taking night walks, so I really feel
like my favorite moments onvacation, though, are when we're
doing something in nature andsomething physical.
So it's like hiking or hangingbridges or, you know, dancing on
the beach and same parts, orswimming in the hot springs and

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Costa Rica, zip lining, jetskiing in Miami, like it's
always the the active thingsthat are my favorite when we
come back, what's your peak andpit?
Like the peaks are always thosephysical things that we're
doing in nature that are superfun, and it makes me think for
the next time, like I want to.

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I want to ride scooters, youknow, like we did in Paris.
Or I want to, you know, walkthrough fields, like we did when
we went to India, you know.
So it's like I have thosememories and those are always my
favorite things, and so lookfor those opportunities ahead of
time, because there are so manythings that you can do that

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don't require you to go to thegym or, you know, if that's not
your thing, and get in thatdaily workout, get in that that
lymph, you know, movement, thatblood movement, and you know I
remember my favorite thing thatwe did in Greece, for example.
It was around sunset and I waslike, wow, I just want to

(35:51):
stretch my legs after that mealand the beach had like too many
rocks, and so we were on our wayback to our little cave house
that we rented and he saidwonder where this road goes?
And Mike turned off this roadand opened up to this beautiful
cliff side sunset and then wesaw a little path and he's like

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I'm going to go see where thisgoes.
And we kind of followed him andyou know, just to stretch our
legs after a meal.
And that was the best momentthat I had in Greece, because we
came across this little church,hidden church in this like tiny
little church, caved out a cave, like carved out and as a cave

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in the side of the mountain andwith like a little path that led
to it, and it was just right atsunset.
It just was so perfect.
And it came from that desire ofwanting to move our body and
keep with that you know ritualof making sure that we've moved
our body after we've had somefood and it.

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You know, it's probably becauseexercise releases endorphins
and they trigger that positivefeeling in your body and it's I
mean, that's what's similar tomorphine, it's really is a drug.
So that's probably why thoseare my favorite moments.
We've, we've stimulated ourbody and the body machine is

(37:23):
like hey, thank you, let me giveyou some endorphins.
So you do you have any favoritelike outside adventure, things
that for because you wereoutside exercising your body or
you had the desire to see thecountry in a different way,
anything that comes to mind?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Well, I love driving a right, but driving definitely
strips you of the ability toactually interact with whatever
environment that you're in.
So, for me, every time that wehave traveled to a country and
I've had an opportunity to walkaround, say, go through some of
the shops or the coastline orthe countryside, I'll opt to do

(38:04):
that.
I mean, it's very, very simpleand you know, I typically have
my camera and I'll capturewhatever wildlife or
architecture that I see.
But it's the process of walking, it grounds me, it gets me my
body moving, it's meditative, soit does so many things at the

(38:25):
same time.
So for me, my most memorablemoments were, you know, in
Greece, walking the coast orwalking up to see some of the
ancient ruins.
Same thing with Costa Rica.
You mentioned the hangingbridges going on these long
walks through the Amazon I meanthe Amazon, the rainforest

(38:47):
Really, really Different trip.
Yeah, different trip.
The Amazon will come soon.
That's on my bucket list.
And then you know, st Bart's,how many times did we just walk
on the beach, up and down thebeach?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It was a small little beach but we walked up and down
it.
We're just swimming in theocean.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh swimming is amazing.
It's un-pulled walking.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, so this, I think, comes as like a distant
fourth, but what I do also justto stay healthy and to this is
by guess, where the freak partcomes in is that I really like
to keep myself healthy bykeeping myself clean, Because
there you know, when you're inany environment where the air is

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circulated and you're sharingthe same air, like a plane, for
example, or train or a bus, andI would say you're, you know on
it for a long period of time, Ifyou're going somewhere where
you're on it for five to six toyou know, 18 hours.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
That's a long trip.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
When you're on a flight for a long time, you're
sharing that air and you know so.
If somebody's sick or whatever,especially during cold and flu
season, you know I don't use anyantibacterial products but I
just combat whatever ishappening around me with washing
my hands with warm water.
I always carry a little bit ofclean hand soap.

(40:10):
I like to use soap from branchbasics.
I also have some Bronner soapthat I like.
But yeah, and then I carrywater wipes and I carry hand
sanitizer.
I don't go overboard, but let'ssay I'm getting on the plane,
I'll just wipe everything downwith water wipes.

(40:30):
I will wipe things that I knowI'm going to touch and I keep
them in my food bag or I keepthem in a little pouch on me.
And there's so much researchthat shows that hand sanitizer,
when it has antibacterial, isnot as healthy for you, and we

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talk about that more extensivelyin the blog.
We will link to that.
Of course, if you havesensitivities, allergies, you
have some type of situationwhere you need a hypoallergenic
environment or allergy-friendlybedding.
I highly recommend pureroomcomand again, we'll link to that

(41:16):
too.
But that's an excellentresource if you are chemically
sensitive and you still wannatravel.
They have air purifiers from myfavorite, which is Intellipure,
and they have great bedding andit's a pretty drastic
difference.
So we don't typically have todo that and that isn't available

(41:37):
in a lot of the places thatwe've traveled.
But I would say, if that issomething that you think will
help you or your loved one,actually take the plunge and get
out in an adventure.
Pureroom is really great forthat and also there are kind of
a lot of places in the US so youcould always test it out for a
little staycation and near yourhome so that if it doesn't work

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for you, you know like, hey,that's not an option.
What about sleep?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Sleep is, in my opinion, one of the most
stressful parts of traveling.
I myself struggle from insomniaevery now and then, hence why I
really got into yoga andmeditation.
But back in the day, when youknow, before I was really into
my yoga practice, I would dreadtraveling because I would find

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myself up in the middle of thenight when you guys were passed
out.
But I actually did a couplethings in the last couple of
years that allowed me to getgood sleep.
First of all, because you'remost cases when you travel, you
cross time zones.
You may lose a couple of hours,you may gain a couple of hours.

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So it is very tempting to sit ona plane and catch up on some of
the movies that you've missed.
However, if you can get in atleast a 45 minute nap during
that flight, it's really goingto help you.
So, of course, get your neckpolos, get an eye mask.
An eye mask is great because ithelps your body relax, because

(43:14):
it blocks out all the lightsthat your eyelids themselves
can't.
I know that you like to wear aninfinity scarf.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, I like to wear it because it well, I don't have
to carry a bunch of things andit kind of takes the place of an
eye mask and keeps, like theflight attendants from asking me
if I want coffee or do I wantsome of the food that they're
serving, or do I want peanuts,and so I kind of, if I'm going
to go to sleep or if I'm goingto meditate, I'll just cover my

(43:45):
face with the scarf.
It also keeps me from, like youknow you, taking pictures of me
with my mouth wide open orcatching flies and germs and
whatever else is floating aroundin that recycle there.
I know you, you really got meinto noise canceling headphones.
You want to talk about that?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, noise canceling headphones are critical if you
are looking for some in-flightrelaxation.
The other thing about you knowhaving a face mask and all that
stuff it also tells theattendance that you are sleeping
.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah Right, so you mean the infinity scarf.
You said face mask.
You mean like covering yourface, like I'm asking yeah,
exactly, yeah, yeah, I'm asking.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
It tells the flight attendants that you were not to
be disturbed, so I don't.
I can't tell you how many timesI didn't have one and I was
shaken awake by a flightattendant asking me if I want
peanuts.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Or like do you have your seatbelt on, Cause I can't
see it, and you're like, yes, Ihave my seatbelt on, but also I
like to bring my own because Ifeel like the ones that they
give you you know, some of thenicer airlines will give you a
mask that they don't really fit.
So that's kind of why I starteddoing.
The infinity scarf was like onthe cheap flights.
You know that the like domesticflights they don't give you one

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.
So you know, packing onesometimes if I forgot, like just
always have a scarf.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
So, with noise counseling headphones, we did a
little bit of research.
Before we went on one of ourbig trips we went into a local
Best Buy and there's a couple ofdifferent types.
You have your in ear earbuds,then you have your standard
noise canceling headphones, thatkind of rest over your ear, and
then you have ones that wraparound your ear.

(45:35):
I would suggest getting theones that wrap around your ear
because they would they do amuch better job at filtering the
ambient noise that you hear onairplanes.
You know the engine, the, the,the, the engine noise, the
crying baby, the, the drunkcouple behind you.
You can actually you don't evenhave to with the over the ear

(45:58):
earbuds.
You don't even have to listento anything, you can just put on
the earbuds.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
The headphones.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I mean the headphones turn on the noise canceling and
it really cancels some of thatstuff out.
So you have your iMask, youhave your noise canceling
headphones.
If you plug your noisecanceling headphones into maybe
a meditative app or somethingthat also allows you to get some
good sleep, Yep, we can link toour, our favorite ones.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And for noise canceling, it's really because
we want to cancel out thepollution.
It's not just from thepassengers, but but a passenger
airplane is around 80 decibels,which is enough to trigger your
stress response, and so thatstress response links to, you
know, prolonged airplane travel,to things like hypertension,

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cardiovascular disease and evenpsychological disorders, and so
noise exposure can lead tocumulative hearing loss too,
over time.
Not to be alarmist, but youknow, the more exposure, the
more hearing loss will continueto grow, and so I am singer,
songwriter, my ears are veryimportant, so I'm really happy

(47:11):
you got me into the whole noisecanceling headphones.
You're welcome, and I thinkwe'll also link to his favorite
meditation apps that you candownload.
Many of them are free, some ofthem, you know it's a small fee.
But so also there's a coupleother tricks you were talking
about, like how do you protectyour eyes, not, let's say, you

(47:33):
want to be awake.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Well.
So you need noise cancelingheadphones, you need an eye mask
, but you also need blue blockerglasses, right?
The big deal with blue blockerglasses is every light that you
see on an airplane, within anairplane or on the terminal.
They're all junk lighting,right?
So if you're walking throughthe terminal, you're down in

(47:56):
coffee, you're getting ready forflight and you hop on your
flight and all of a sudden, youwant to relax.
Your mitochondria is actuallyspun up to be awake, and that
could seriously offset any typeof relaxation that you have
while you're on.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Right, because it disrupts your circadian rhythms
and all of that becomesimportant when you actually want
to sleep when you get to yourdestination, or you want to
sleep on your plane, like youwant to sleep when you want to
sleep.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Exactly so.
I would suggest not waitinguntil you actually sit in the
airplane to put on your blueblockers.
Put them on the minute you walkinto the terminal, because
again all that lightning isgoing to be junk lighting, and
plan in advance.
We just talked a little bitabout water.
Grab yourself some nicechamomile, some 99T.

(48:48):
I like to travel with twothermos.
There's a large one that I canfill with water and then a small
one that I can fill with hotwater and I'll brew myself a tea
while waiting for the gate toopen, and I'll sit down, I'll
put on all of my eye masks andnoise counseling, I'll have some

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tea and I get the best sleep onthe plane.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
And like some of this , like sometimes when I listen
back to myself talking about thethings that I do.
These are habits, these arerituals to us.
Now they might seem like that'sso extra, but let me tell you,
when I get to my location, I'mnot tired, I'm not dehydrated,
I'm not constipated all of thethings that typically we hear.

(49:35):
People and clients come to usand they're like how do you do
this?
Because I can't.
I'm dead the first two days ofa trip, so my seven day vacation
really turns into more likefour and a half, because then I
have to pack and worry, all theanxiety producing about that
flight again.
So this is to make it easier, sothat you can be a jet setter If

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you're cold.
I always tend to be cold, andso I mean you can travel with
the travel blanket if you're ona flight where they're not gonna
be providing one, like a longflight or a night flight, or an
extra jacket, something likethat.
I know that you sometimes dohave trouble sleeping, so
packing.
We have this herbalist inCalifornia that has teas that

(50:19):
you can order online.
We'll link to those, but hername is Emma, emma's Herbs, and
they have insomnia tea and I'venever seen you not be able to
sleep when you drink that tea.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
So that knocks me out .

Speaker 2 (50:33):
It's kind of like your kryptonite as far as
insomnia goes.
Indeed and also magnesiumlotion.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yes.
So you have two things.
Of course, trying to get alittle bit of sleep while you're
on the plane will offset someof the time change.
And then, once you're back atthe hotel, you can usually talk
to the concierge or host aheadof time and ask about bedding if
you have any allergies.
We don't have allergies, but wesometimes pack our own

(51:03):
pillowcases and that certainlyhelps a lot.
And then melatonin sprays orpills are great for regulating
your sleep.
Some people will frown uponthat, but if you are taking
melatonin on a regular basis andyou forget it, you'll be in a

(51:23):
tough spot.
But if you don't normally takemelatonin, having that extra
melatonin on hand when you'retraveling certainly allows you
to offset some of the jet lag.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
It's more like carrying it just in case you
need it, because you never knowwhat's going to happen.
That's both the excitement andthe anxiety-producing part of
traveling is that you might endup stuck at another airport for
a day and a half because theFrench decided to strike again
at the airport.

(51:55):
Yeah, so these things are morelike.
Maybe you don't normally thinkyou would need it, but Well,
going back to melatonin, it'sinteresting.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Melatonin is actually a hormone that is made by your
pineal gland, and your pinealgland is very connected with
your eyes.
So if you're getting the junklight, if you're offsetting your
sleep patterns, by the timechange, your melatonin
production is going to dropnaturally.

(52:26):
So you know, and your pinealgland is a pea-sized gland.
It's found just in the middleof your brain.
It's also called the third eyeand it's there to help your body
know when it's time to sleepand when to wake up.
So knowing how to manipulatethat gland and take care of that

(52:47):
gland is really going to allowyou to have the necessary energy
levels that you're looking for.
Being sleepy at night, beingawake during the day, spending
time outdoors in sunlightaccording to a 2008 study,
exposure to sunlight canincrease production of both
serotonin and endorphins.
Now, serotonin is a hormone andneurotransmitter.

(53:10):
It helps regulate your mood, aswell as your sleep, your
appetite, your digestion, yourability to learn and your memory
.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
So if you Kind of important?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah.
So if you're traveling and allof a sudden you got brain fog
and your belly's upset, yourserotonin may be a little out of
whack.
Go outside, get some vitamin D.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, and this is where if you're a blue-eyed
brother or sister of mine, youknow you're probably like quick
to grab the sunglasses becauseyou're sensitive.
But even just exposing yourselfto that morning light will
really help you and kind of takeoff the sunglasses a little bit
, just so that your eyes cankind of regulate what time of

(53:52):
day it is and all of thosethings.
It's amazing when you startreally researching this.
It's amazing how impressive ourbodies are.
They know exactly what to do.
We just need to make sure thatwe aren't unaware of some of
these things.
Like I never knew sunglasses,like why do I care about wearing
sunglasses?

(54:13):
But then I was like well, wait aminute.
If our eyes are really doingall of that regulating, we have
to.
We have to be conscious of that.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
And in conclusion, with the whole sleep, the best
thing to do is to simulate yournew schedule before you leave,
if it's possible.
If not, take that flight timeto adapt to your new schedule
and so you know if you canarrive early to your terminal,
get some stretching in, makesure you stay hydrated, move

(54:47):
your body around while you're inflight and when you get off, if
you've got yourself a little45-minute nap, you're going to
be good to go.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, and sometimes, like when we go to a place, we
will sacrifice a little bit ofsleep To get on schedule, so
that we aren't so off scheduleif you're somewhere where it's
six or seven or ten hourdifference, so that you're not
so off schedule that you'reawake all night and the rest of
the world is sleeping where youare right or the rest of your

(55:20):
destination is sleeping becausethat's their sleep time.
So sometimes you have to thinklike how am I gonna offset that?
And, you know, pad yourvacation a little bit to to
accommodate that drastic change.
So let's talk about self-care,because we were kind of talking
about self-care the whole time.
Really, this is all just likehow to best take care of

(55:41):
yourself and Get the most out ofyour adventure.
Let's say you're going to ahotel or like an Airbnb.
I I never use the products thatare at the hotel.
Obviously, I just do a BYOB.
I bring my own beauty productsand specifically, what I would

(56:03):
say is that if I don't bringcertain things, they are very
either expensive or Hard tofigure out Ingredients, and that
just becomes another challenge.
You don't want to spend yourtime in a pharmacy or or a salon
while you're there, you want tojust enjoy yourself.
So Bug spray, for example, isreally hard to find in certain

(56:28):
places and or it's limited tolike deet or some toxic
Pesticide that you don't want toput all of yourself or your
child or whatever right.
So I have a recipe that I willgive you guys for bug spray.
It's my homemade recipe and andit got us through the
rainforest in Costa Rica withoutone bite, and the one time that

(56:52):
we did get a bite was when wedidn't.
We took a shower after being atthat one hotel in Monteverde
and there was like, after weshowered, there was bugs in our
bed and we didn't have books preon us.
But we got through all of thejungle, everything, no bites,

(57:15):
and so that's what I will saythat this is my recipe and
you're welcome to use this.
I also will give you a couplesuggestions for the brands that,
if you want to just ordersomething on Amazon or pick up
At your health food store thatare great too and that do work
Sunscreen, bring your ownsunscreen because it is so

(57:36):
expensive certain places Likesince we were just talking about
Costa Rica, I remember we hadto have someone grab some for
for us and it was like a $30 fora spray can and it was not good
.
It was crappy.
It was something like you knowWhatever, just that banana boat

(57:58):
or something.
It was something that wouldhave cost like six or seven
dollars in the US, but it wascrazy expensive because the
locals don't need sunscreen.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
There isn't a market for it right.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
So it was so expensive, was crazy and it's
never clean and it's just likethey just really jack up the
prices in tourist towns.
So pack your own.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I'd also say pack a little bit of aloe vera gel.
I love our gels, one of thoseCure, all elixirs that you can
put on your skin, and it alsodoes a big.
It really helps in regards tosoothing sunburns and in most
cases, if you can put it onRight after a lot of sun

(58:41):
exposure, you can actually coolyour skin down so that doesn't
continue to burn totally.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
He's spoken like a husband of a redhead.
Yes, yes no flaming hot Cheetoon his arm, and it has happened
when you.
You know you think you haveenough sunscreen on and you get
burned.
So the other thing aboutself-care is just supplements
like.
What supplements are youtraveling with?

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There's a there's a physicaland emotional stress component
of traveling which means yourimmune system is going to work
in overdrive.
You know, if you go into thetrip with a little bit of a
compromised immune system,obviously that's not ideal but
sometimes that happens with thestress of packing or whatever

(59:29):
but it leads to.
You know, if your system is anoverdrive it can lead to quick
depletion of your Masturantioxidant glutathione and your
subsequent immune system isgoing to crash.
And you don't want to crashwhen you're out jet-setting.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
You will not be jet-setting.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
No, you won't, and that can just ruin a trip.
So I like to pack vitamin a,vitamin D3, a really good
vitamin C, and then zincglutathione.
Mike always likes to pack Some.
You want to talk about oliveleaf?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Yeah, my in mind to go back.
I typically will have an oliveleaf.
Olive leaf is great.
It has it's a.
It's a antimicrobial, antiviral.
It boosts the Immune system,helps regulate digestion.

(01:00:28):
It's, it's it's excellentMagnesium.
Also, it's an excellent travelsupplement.
Apparently, in a 2012 studypublished by the National
Institute of Health state thatmagnesium was shown to improve
symptoms of insomnia and or aterrible night of sleep.
Low magnesium is one of themajor Sources of insomnia, so it

(01:00:56):
also made a good magnesium.
Magnesium also keeps yourbowels flowing the way they're
supposed to, so An anxiety andit's good for so many things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
We'll dive into that more in the blog.
I Like a good D2 and B12 liquidspray.
I like to also bring digestiveaids because if I'm stressed or
if I'm Eating things outside ofmy regular diet, which just will

(01:01:31):
naturally happen as you travelI like to bring digestive aids
like enzymes and bitters orfennel.
I actually sometimes will bringall three if I'm going to a
place where I'm a littleconcerned.
I also like to bring aprobiotic to maintain a healthy
gut while traveling, and thenherbs.
So there's really like I could.

(01:01:54):
This could be an entire showand so but a couple.
I'll just name a couple.
I really like Adaptogenic herbs,like ashwagandha.
It's a Indian, you knowtraditional Indian medicine
that's been used to help yourbody adapt better to stressful
situations, and Western medicineis really started to kind of

(01:02:14):
embrace it because of itsmagical effect.
A 2012 clinical trials showedthat ashwagandha can help reduce
the blood levels of cortisol.
So if you're a stressful person, whether you're traveling or
not, I highly recommendashwagandha.
I will link to my favoriteSuppliers of that specific herb.

(01:02:37):
And I also like rhodiola, andthat's newer for me, but it's
been used for 3,000 years aspart of traditional medicine in
Eastern Europe and Asia, and ithelps you feel more alert, it
decreases stress, it improvesyour mood.
The combination like thiscombination makes rhodiola like

(01:02:58):
the best companion, travelcompanion for any trip.
It improves endurance whileexercising, assist in recovery
after, and it's just essential,and so it's in a couple of
supplements that I have, like amix of aptogenic, adaptogenic
herbs, and Love rhodiola.
So if you're new to it, I Gointo more about that herb and I

(01:03:23):
will link you to the bestsources that I've found it.
Just let's talk about immunejust a little bit more.
You already touched on oliveleaf, but you know, according to
an Australian study oninternational travels in 2016,
taking elderberry supplement canbe an excellent way to support
your body's defense whiletraveling.

(01:03:44):
I love elderberry and othervery so great because Even your,
your kid, will take elderberry.
Because it tastes great andit's easy to find.
It's usually pretty inexpensive.
I like to pack some with me.
I take a product called underthe weather by Truvani which has

(01:04:05):
elderberry in it and a bunch ofother Great things to boost
your immunity.
Sometimes I'll take it ahead ofgoing and then I'll continue
taking it the entire time I'mgone.
But there are other elderberrySyrups.
So if you are traveling with achild, you know, boost them
ahead of time and then boostthem while you're Traveling.

(01:04:27):
That's really gonna help them.
I Always pack a homeopathic, afew things like a Silicosinem,
which is for the first signs offlu or cold.
For bug bites, I pack lead-em.
It also helps with inflammationand joint pain.
I for like injuries.

(01:04:48):
I pack Arnica for motionsickness, borax, upset stomach,
noxfamica, and Then I'll linkyou guys to a really good pill
carrier too, because this mightsound like how the heck am I
gonna pack all those bottles?
But I have a pill carrierthat's not plastic, it's
waterproof.
It's actually made of oats.
It's really cool.

(01:05:10):
Anyway, I'll just link you tothat, and this is a matter of
like getting your pills out,putting them in there Monday,
tuesday, wednesday, and so thatyou're just set, right Well, to
include in that that nice shortlist.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I would also state that Grabbing an organic based
activated charcoal Will dowonders to speed up any type of
recovery that you get from, say,food poisoning, which typically
happens when you're traveling,or you know your body's reacting
negatively to, you know, anynumber of ingredients that are

(01:05:48):
unknown when you're eatingabroad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
But also if you're just feeling a little crappy, it
really helps with jet lag.
I found Upset stomach like yousaid.
Yeah, like, keep in mind thatyou know you, you mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
The recycled air and you have all of the off gases,
you know anything, all thematerials, all the adhesives,
all that stuff that is Used inthe construction of the aircraft
.
All those chemicals tend tojust kind of get recycled and
then whatever else people arebringing in.
So, Taking an after filteringthrough the system, yeah, taking
an activated charcoal before.
Your plane and then after yourplane, it's.

(01:06:29):
It's kind of like a catch-allyeah, just, you're just gonna,
you just want to boost yourbody's filtering service.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
And you just want to make sure you take it separate
from your supplements so thatyou're not then Taking out those
good stuff that you just put inthere, correct?
We want to make sure it'sorganic and coconut based is
what we really like.
So activated charcoal will linkyou to the right brands in our
show notes and then really likethe last thing to touch on is
just our last couple things totouch on is really Anxiety,

(01:07:00):
right like that's.
People, especially in the US,have so much anxiety.
It's like talked about non-stopin our culture.
So you know we want to set youup for emotional mental health.
Here are some great hacks foryou.
You know we want to set you upfor emotional mental health.
Here are some great hacks forthat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yeah, well, you still touched it.
You know, you said it verybeautifully.
Like you know, americans wehave, you know we carry so much
stress and anxiety and a lot oftimes when you're traveling If
you are traveling on vacation,Excellent, you know.
Hopefully when you get to yourplace of vacation, your place
destination, you haveopportunity to decompress.
But a lot of times you'retraveling for business or family

(01:07:44):
affairs Weddings, funerals,things to that nature.
So it's not like you're youranxiety is gonna drop.
What typically happens in thosetype of trips is your anxiety
actually raises.
The more stressed you are, theeasier it is for your body to
get sick.
So one of the best things thatyou can do to combat anxiety is

(01:08:05):
to practice gratitude.
So instead of saying, oh, Ihave to travel to, I don't know
Detroit, you can say you knowwhat I get to travel to Detroit,
I get to see somewhere new.
Or I get to go home, I get tosee my, my family, I get to have
opportunity to To take care ofsome of these family affairs or

(01:08:28):
I didn't have to walk to Detroitfrom California.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Exactly I get to fly in a plane.
I mean, if you think about howmagical it is to even be able to
go into an airplane, you cankind of reverse yourself from
thinking like you know, all ofthose fear producing thoughts of
like Gonna be in coach and thisis gonna happen, and whatever
anxiety Story you're building inyour head.

(01:08:52):
You can reverse it withgratitude with gratitude.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Now, for those of you who are Don't have a sound
meditation practice or youhaven't Developed one at all,
the flight is a great time tomeditate, so there are plenty of
meditation apps out there.
We already talked about noisecanceling headphones and putting

(01:09:16):
on eye masks.
Give yourself a mental bath andSpend, say, 10, 15 minutes
during your flight and meditate.
That is significantly going todrop your anxiety.
It's gonna have you practicingthe power of now gratitude and

(01:09:37):
Trust me you monitoring yourthoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You?
Can just sit and observe yourthoughts, because there's all
different types of ways tomeditate, right, correct, like
so.
If you've never meditated andyou're just listening to an app
and it's maybe not a guidedmeditation From Mike or you know
somebody that we refer you toit you can just listen to music,
close your eyes and Think.

(01:10:00):
You know like.
Pay attention, be the witnessof your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
The easiest meditation process that you can
do is called box breathing,where you inhale for the count
of eight, you Pause for thecount of two, you exhale for the
count of eight, pause for thecount of two, inhale for the
count of eight, and you and you,you do that for say ten to

(01:10:26):
twenty cycles when you arecounting on your exhale.
So inhale, pause, exhale one,you do that for about say ten to
you know, twenty cycles, andand you can literally feel your
body relax, your heart rate drop, your endorphins are starting

(01:10:46):
to kind of Regulate themselves.
It is, it is such an easypractice and because you're
already on, say, a bus or a cabor a boat, you are, you're
primed just to close your eyesand escape for just a few
minutes.
Mm-hmm.

(01:11:07):
Gum, you know chewing gum isgreat.
If you are, you know if you getC sickness or if you have some
Anxiety kind of just distractingyour brain, letting your brain
do something.
We have.
There's these great littlewristbands that you can use that
are great to offset any type ofmotion sickness.

(01:11:29):
We can definitely send you theleak to those.
There's a bunch of homeopathicoptions, some of which you
already talked about, that aregreat for anxiety.
So pop in a couple of thoseguys.
Before, during and after your.
Your flight is going to begreat and you know an audible
book.
Audible is great because youknow it saves you from having to

(01:11:51):
rewatch.
You know the same.
You know violent movies thatyou're going to see in the plane
.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Instead, you can pop on your your audible and kind of
escape into the world offiction or self-help or or
Anything this I mean there'saudible is great, like any book
that you you know wanted to readand don't feel like you can if
you're gonna be on a boat oryou're gonna be in a bus or

(01:12:17):
something that might make youcar sick.
Audible is great for that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
So and then the other thing that maybe we could just
talk about is Tracking how youfeel, so that awareness we talk
about when you are, you know,sitting there with your eyes
closed or your following mics.
You know, suggestion of doing ameditation and box breathing is
Track how you feel, like youcan.
If meditation isn't your thing,you can just track it by

(01:12:45):
bringing a pen and paper or ajournal or something that you
can just write down, like youknow, how you're feeling or what
you want to do.
You know there's so many thingsyou could do and we could give
you some some good leads forjournal entries and and things
you can do while you'retraveling.
I typically like to writelyrics, so Travel is so great

(01:13:09):
for lyric writing.
You're just always peoplewatching and seeing all these
circumstances and being withinearshot of conversations, and
it's like my favorite way tolyric, right.
So I read quite a bit of poetry,yeah yeah, and Mike's also has

(01:13:30):
some great body scans and chakraMeditations.
Both of those we're gonnaprovide into the show notes so
that you guys can get those, sothat you're not having to Hunt
and pack the right things tokeep yourself calm and or to
check in with yourself.
It's because you're emotionaland mental health?
Yes, it.
It will be Challenged whiletraveling, whether it's an angry

(01:13:54):
flight attendant or passengeror a flight delay.
Just you know, stuff doeshappen.
You will be way outside of yourcomfort zone and, on that note,
you know we are talking aboutbeing Organic freaks.
But you have to relax aboutthings not all being perfect.

(01:14:18):
There's really no such thingand when you travel to certain
places, as you're googling anddoing some of your prep work,
you will realize, wow, okay, I'mgoing to these places in China.
I need to bring X amount ofdried food, like I'll know.
You know, okay, when I get toChina, they're not gonna let me

(01:14:39):
have these foods, so I will makesure that I don't bring them,
but they will allow me to bringthese foods if they're sealed,
etc.
Knowing those rules, you knowit'll allow you kind of just to
relax.
You're not gonna go throughCustoms and be freaked out and
you can occupy yourself with,like we said, books, journaling,

(01:15:03):
playing a game.
We definitely watch movies onthe plane if that's an option.
You know, work on a projectkind of just plan something
ahead of time like preparationis key.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Bringing a deck of cards, or some dice, super easy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yep and easy to pack.
Talk to us a little bit aboutlike communication, and I always
rely on you to do some of thecommunication and transportation
and ask you to geek out on onGoogle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
I'm gonna talk about that a little yeah, and this
kind of goes back to thatpre-trip Planning, right, so
you're looking at where you canbuy organic food, maybe a local
market.
Well, one of the other thingsthat are critical is your
ability to communicate with thepeople around you.
Google translate is a great app.

(01:15:58):
You have to download thelanguage that you need Prior to
using it, so don't wait untilyou're in a country where you
may not have Wi-Fi or coverage.
So download them to your phoneand, with Google translate, you
can use it to scan menus.
You can use it to haveconversations with vendors or

(01:16:20):
nurses, if needed be, and, andthen also Maps.
So you want to.
You know Google Maps works well,but you can also download the
area that you're gonna stay inahead of time in the event that
you don't have Wi-Fi or Cellulardata.
If you're trying to hold on toyour, you're not having to pay
extra, extra, extra money to beable to use your phone.

(01:16:43):
There's an app called Duolingo.
It's a great little languageapp that allows you to learn the
basics in a very fun, engagingway.
Another thing you can do whileon the plane.
You know you're not going to beable to, you know, fly from
here to Greece and be able tospeak fluently, but you are

(01:17:04):
gonna be able to say all Greekto me, it's all great to me.
But you will have theopportunity to say some very
basic things and it's it'simportant, especially if you
wanted to understand thelanguage, to better navigate as
an organic traveler.
So you know, you want to knowwhat the words organic are in

(01:17:26):
that language we kind of talkedabout.
So it's either bio orecological, and you know.
So, again, a little pre-tripwork will definitely go a long
way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
And have fun with it.
Like, yeah, we definitely.
If we're gonna go to France andneither one of us speak French,
we will, you know, play aroundthe week before we're going and
start Bonjour, in, you know,being really silly with each
other.
It it kind of builds theexcitement.
If you want to look at it andreframe it as like, oh my gosh,

(01:18:02):
I don't want to do all this work.
You know, have fun with it.
We also download what's up.
Yeah, and we talked about alittle bit before, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Well, you know it's.
It's a great way to communicatewith the people back home.
It's free and it's commonlyused for those who are hosting
as a guide or or as your Airbnb.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
So so the hosts like, for example, they can tell you
about the organic options, likewe did talk about that on
WhatsApp, but like you may needreservations, there's there's
things that what's up, you cantalk with them for free ahead of
time and that's built into thecost of your stay.

(01:18:47):
Their job is to host you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
So, basically, what's up allows you to use.
It, allows you to call and maketext messages on your phone
using just a wireless Feed.
You can actually turn off yourcellular data and Then be able
to contact whoever is actuallyusing the what's up.
Right, yes, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
And so also like, for example, if only one of you is
gonna have a SIM card whenyou're traveling, or only one of
you is going to have, you know,pay for Service through a
cellular provider whiletraveling, then it allows you to
communicate with the rest ofyour party.
That might be like Okay, whohas the phone working phone and

(01:19:32):
the other people are usingwhat's up when they're, you know
, on Wi-Fi.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Yeah, if you're doing these before your trip, then
you won't have to have long,arduous conversations with the
phone company after your trip.
Yeah, transportation is also abig deal.
Do some research, see ifthere's, if there's Uber or some
sort of bus system, or or canyou rent scooters, you know, and

(01:19:57):
if so, a lot of times they'llhave you Download apps for that,
like, for instance, bird andlime.
There are types of scootersthat we wrote while we were in
Paris and very much like Uber,where you download it and you
create an account, have that allready to go, so that you can
really maximize your time.

(01:20:19):
You can be a little bit moreKind of on the fly, like, hey,
let's go over there, we got an,you know, we got the the line
map, let's go.
Also, make sure you know who ispicking you up at the airport
or if there's some sort ofairport transportation or public
transportation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
It's important because, yeah, I'm giggling
because you know what story I'mthinking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Yeah, in most cases, once you walk out the terminal,
you are already a target forreally shady people.
That will shade, yeah, thatwill, that will.
That will kind of Takeadvantage of the fact that you
are in a new country.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You have all your bags usually your jet lags your
jet lagged and If your parentseven worse, because you're like,
okay, where's my kid?
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
and you don't speak the language right.
Right.
So you know that's whathappened to us in India.
You know we got a cab and andhalfway to our destination.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
We'll back up, though .
Oh the the story is that thepeople who we purchased our
travel Transportation withdidn't show up, so there's no
sign with our names on it, andthen when we went outside to
look around, there is no sign,and we were so tired after, I

(01:21:41):
think it ended up being like a23 hour.
Yeah or deal and and we're sotired, and then go ahead.
This guy comes up to us.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Yeah, this guy comes up and, you know, kind of
hustles us and kind of corralsus over to this guy's cab and
we're like, okay, you know, okay, okay.
So we hop in this guy's cab andwe get halfway to our
destination and the guy stops onthe freeway on the freeway and
demands more money and a lot ofmoney a lot of money and as

(01:22:12):
we're protesting, he's jumpingout of the car, opening the back
and starting to offload ourluggage.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
On the set of freeway on the set of freeway.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
So we were prime targets and he juiced us well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Mind you, we had, you know, our daughter, and she was
younger than she is now and wewere exhausted and our, our
hotel was so close to theairport on purpose, and those
people were supposed to pick usup and we didn't realize how
shady that area was.
And also, to us, this guy camefrom a booth that had people

(01:22:51):
there.
We're like, oh, this is legit,and those people aren't there.
Let's just, let's just go.
So, just to explain therationale of getting in a car
that has that says taxi.
Taxi had a company connected toit and there's no
accountability, there's no wayfor us to like what are we gonna
do?
Roll all of our bags back tothat booth?

(01:23:13):
Yeah, on the opposite side ofthe freeway they had us.
So we're like, okay, basicallywe're gonna have to pay for our
safety, to get out of thisperson's car At our hotel.
And then we paid him and hetook us to our hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
So long story short, double, triple and quadruple
check Transportation from to andfrom the airport.
Note that that is where most ofthe scams are taking place.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yeah.
So I mean, I don't know totallyhow that ties into our organic
freak, but it definitely tiesinto safety, and maybe some of
the stories that you've heardFrom us will help you.
Just stay extra prepared andkind of Reframe it so, instead
of it being anxiety producing,look at it as like a really fun

(01:24:01):
challenge that is going to setyou up to have an amazing
vacation.
Of course, mike's been greatabout capturing it all on
photography and video, and we dohave some slideshows of every
trip that we've taken.
We will link you guys to thosetwo so that you can get
energized and excited abouttraveling and adventuring with

(01:24:22):
us.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
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It's saying absence makes theheart grow fonder.
If you love your, if you're, ifyou feel like your life is is
dull, leave it for a littlewhile.
I guarantee when you come backyou're gonna really miss it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
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know, it's the contrast of beingcomfortable and uncomfortable,
and All the beauty in betweenyeah, we hope you received
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