No Fun Anymore

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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Thank you, hello and welcome.
My name is Tom.
This is the Enthusiasm Project,season 13, episode 9, feeling
Fine.
Fine, and that means we aresecond to last episode of the
season.
Next one will be the seasonfinale, finally, which will

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actually be pretty cool becausewe get to do something very fun
with microphones and stuff and Ihave to figure out, like, how
to orchestrate that.
So I'm a little curious, but Ithink that will be actually
incredibly fun.
So today definitely got a fewthings that I'm excited to share
.
The main topic of today's showis something I'm going to warn

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you up front is something thatcan potentially sound a little
bit ranty.
I don't necessarily want thatto be the case, but it's
something that I feel I justcan't get out of my brain and
it's something that I actuallyfeel very more passionately than
I realized about.
And it goes.
It goes back to you know my DNAas just a person.

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It goes back to childhood, itgoes back to being a teacher and
it definitely goes like runsthrough being an online content
creator in the year 2025.
When a lot of things seemabsolutely insane.
So that's what we are going totalk about and we're hopefully
going to have a lot of fun doingit.
I do not intend for it to be arant, but I'm just warning you

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up front it could potentially goin that direction.
My goal is to be constructive,not destructive, so I'm just
going to put that up front.
But before we talk about any ofthat stuff, let's talk about
microphones and super fun thingsin our Mic of the Week segment.
All right, you might know thisone.

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It has been around for a while.
I guess if you're listening youwouldn't know, but if you're
watching this it's very obviouswhat I'm using.
This is the Shure SM58 runningthrough the Rodecaster Duo, and
actually I'm using the SM7Bpreset.
If I take off the preset, wow,there's actually not even like
there's a difference without thepreset, but it's not some

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microphones, it's a hugedifference.
Now I have the preset back on.
This one doesn't have as big ofa difference.
The SM58, I was kind of lookingthrough.
You know the different micsbecause what we're doing is I'm
using a different one on everyepisode.
So 10 different microphonesthroughout the season and then
next week, you know, I'll playclips from all of them so you

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can hear them all back to backto back and then vote on which
one you think sounds the best.
I'm just curious about it, likeI don't know what it means when
we figure out which one peoplelike the most.
But I'm really curious and thatjust seemed like a really fun
idea.
There are a few things that I'vebeen trying to do as I choose
the different microphonesthroughout the season is, I've
been trying to choose a variety.

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I've been using dynamics, I'vebeen using condensers, I've been
trying to use different brands.
You know I have a list overhere, so if you see me looking
off screen, that's what I'mlooking at.
We've used the SM7B, the ShureSM4, the Rode Broadcaster, the
Earthworks Ethos, the Rode NT1,lewitt 440, shure Super 55, sc
Dynacaster and now the ShureSM58.
So more.

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I think I've used more Shuremics than any other mic and I'm
not actually sure which one I'mgoing to use next week.
But there is a reason for that.
I got and some of you know myfriend, doc Rock, who has his
own YouTube channel and workswith Ecamm Live and stuff, the
software I'm using to make thispodcast sent me just totally by
surprise it showed up in themail the Neat Kingbee, the

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original condenser Kingbeemicrophone, which is incredibly
cool, and he was like, yeah, Ihave this, I don't use it, I
want to give it to a good home.
So he just sent it to me andthat's a really fun microphone.
A bunch of people are like, oh,you got to use that on the
podcast.
Got to use it on the podcastand I was like I want to because
I want people to hear it.
So I ended up actually making avideo comparison.

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We'll talk about that maybenext week.
So there will be a video.
It will be featured in a thing.
But I didn't really want to useit on the podcast because I feel
like this is such a practicalapplication of microphones and
audio and equipment that I don'twant to show something that's
not available anymore and thatmicrophone has been discontinued
for a number of years and eventhough Neat currently makes like
newer versions of those, Ithink Neat might not be doing so

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neat and they might be kind ofgoing out of business because it
seems like stock is verylimited and they haven't like
shared or posted anything onlinein like two years.
So usually not a good sign whena company does something like
that.
So I've been trying to usemicrophones.
They vary in price.
This is actually one of theless expensive ones I've used
this season.
But I've been using mics thatyou can like go buy right now.

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So if you hear how it soundsespecially you know, comparing
my voice to your voice or yourapplication, or however you want
to use it and you're like, okay, that's the one I want, or, you
know, maybe just want to add itto your collection, whatever, I
want it to be something that'sactually accessible to you.
I don't want to show you like,look, this microphone's amazing,
isn't it awesome?
It sounds super cool.
You can't get it, I don't know.

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I think there's a time tohighlight stuff like that.
I love looking through, youknow, old stuff, retro tech, all
those kinds of things whereit's just sort of like look at
this, isn't it neat, neat.
But this specific like notnecessarily every mic of the
week segment ever, but thisseason, doing the different mics
and the different comparisons Iwant them to be things that are

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accessible and the SM58, themicrophone I'm using right now,
very accessible.
They started making thesethings in 1966.
So this has been around for along time.
You know it's changed a littlebit, actually, from what I
understand, based on the ShureSM57, which was actually like
the first real XLR microphone.
I ever bought the one I'mholding right now.

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I'm not talking into it, butI'm holding it about this 20
years ago when I was in college.
Yeah, I bought this in 2005.
So 20 years ago it's $100 andit's still $100.
So I don't know.
The price has just always beenthe same, which is kind of nice.
And the SM57, traditionally usedas an instrument microphone,
but I have mine.
I have a windscreen on mine.

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They use these a lot in, youknow, for vocal mics in
professional settings.
They're very, you know,reputable microphones.
I have a knockoff version thatI'm holding up to the screen.
This is a Pyle PD mic 78.
It's a $15 version of the SM57,which is actually not bad at
all, although I haven't used itin a bit.
So I'm kind of curious like, isit still?

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Does it still work?
Well?
But I just wanted to show youwhat it looks like without
having to take the windscreenoff of my, my other 57.
Because the capsules aren'tnecessarily different, but the
like, the windscreen between the57 and the 58 are different,
and so the 58, the 57 typicallyis geared towards instruments
and especially like it has thisflat front on it so you can put

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it right up against an amplifier.
You can do, you know you can.
You can position it very wellfor instruments, drums, that
kind of thing.
They decided to take a versionof that and make a more
broadcast, you know, vocalspoken word version and that's
what the 58 is sort of like amodification of that.
So very similar sounds, justsort of different purposes.
And you know it has a differentkind of grill on.

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It, has a different built-inwindscreen.
I was thinking of putting awindscreen on here just to
prevent any plosive, potentialplosives, but I wanted you to
hear the microphone without it.
So if there are a few, it doesa pretty good job.
I mean, people use thesemicrophones on stage all the
time.
I keep hitting the cable.
I'm sorry.
People keep using.
People use these microphones onstage all the time, you know,
with great effect.
So it comes down more mictechnique than anything and it's

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kind of interesting.
Something I didn't really knowwas that the 58 was originally
designed as as a broadcast mic,kind of what I'm doing right now
.
Like you put it in a studio.
It's a broadcast microphone butit's so compact and it's so
durable and it sounds so goodand it's easy to use.
It really found its home inlive performance settings.
So you see these, you know, onstages, events, there's
different versions of the 58.
I'm using just the standard XLRversion, but Shure has like the

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same microphone that has likebuilt-in wireless capabilities
and all kinds of stuff, but it'sbasically the same looking
microphone.
It probably is.
You know, other than the super55 which I used a couple weeks
ago.
This one is probably if you, ifyou um ask somebody who knows
nothing about microphones andnever thinks about microphones
to like imagine a microphone,this is probably probably what

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they're imagining kind of lookslike.
It's almost like I have aStratocaster on my wall Fender
Stratocaster.
Actually this is a SquireBullet, but it's the same design
.
If you don't know anythingabout electric guitars and you
just sort of think of, like whatdoes a guitar look like, I
think the majority of people aregoing to imagine something that
kind of has the shape of aStratocaster, maybe different
colors, maybe whatever, butthat's probably like the basic

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idea of like yeah, that's kindof what an electric guitar looks
like.
I think the SM58 is the samething for a microphone.
So it's a fun one.
It has a 90,.
It still has this $99 MSRP,same with the 57.
So they're they're veryaccessible.
You buy one, it'll last youforever.
And that's what's really cooltoo is, like you know, my 50, 57

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, I bought 20 years ago.
I bought this 58 maybe like twoyears ago, so at the time
there's an 18 year differencebetween them.
They pretty much sound exactlythe same, and if I went back and
bought ones that were 20 yearsolder, so a 40 year old
microphone like it would stillsound the same.
That's what's really kind ofcool with these mics and with
Shure mics.
You know they've been arounddoing this for a long time.

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They're very accessible,they're very high quality and
they'll just kind of lastforever and you can mix and
match new and old ones.
So that is the mic of the week.
That's what I've been using theShure SM58.
Ain't it great.
It is a lot of fun.
But now let's move into thetopic of today's show, because I
don't want to have fun anymore.
No fun here.

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This is something that is.
The idea of.
Fun is something that I feellike is really misunderstood and
missing in today's world period.
But I'm going to focusspecifically on the world of
online content creation and thatsort of stuff, and I've been on

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such a Blink-182 kick I wouldsay recently, but just for the
past 28 years.
But especially recently.
There's a song on Blink-182'smost recent album, on the deluxe
version of the album, called noFun, and it's great because
it's written by people you knowin their about 50 years old at

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the time they wrote this, buthaving the career trajectory
that you know, a pop punk bandthat saw worldwide success and
everything you know from thetime they were very young up
until now and it really explores, like the lyrics of the song
really explore fun, sort ofdisappearing from your life and

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falling into cynicism, feelingsof jadedness, boredom and just
sort of forgetting the fun ofexisting.
And then like serving as areminder that even if you're not
18, you can still like, youcould still try again and, and I

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don't know, I that song man,that song hits different.
Let me tell you I appreciatethat one.
So I highly recommend, if youhave a couple minutes, go check
out no Fun from Blink-182.
It's also got like a really funbass line that is super cool to
play.
So, ironically, no Fun is veryfun and I want to talk about
that.
I want to talk about fun because, especially in the world of the

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internet, the idea of beingjaded and cynical online.
That's like day one of theinternet.
I don't know what like thefirst email ever sent was, but
it was probably something jadedand cynical.
Actually, I know it wasn't.
I know I've read whatever thefirst email was, but it's, you
know, like this is an email, ormaybe it was spam, I don't know.

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But you know, I remember I hearall the time stories about like
Simpsons writers back in the 90s.
They had a computer with aninternet connection installed in
their writer's room on the Foxstudio lot and they would go to
like the Usenet user group, likeold, old, old school message
boards in the, you know, earlyto mid 90s, and they would see

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what people were saying aboutthe episodes.
And it was literally.
They had to get the computerthen taken out of the writer's
room because it was such afrustrating thing to see Because
every week an episode wouldcome out and people would just,
you know, the worst episode ever.
The show's terrible, which ishilarious, because that's still
what happens, you know, allthese years later.
And the episodes they wereworking on at that time, like if

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you're talking about the 1990s,you're talking about the
absolute golden age of theSimpsons, which is some which
are some of the best pieces oftelevision, the best episodes of
any television show, not tomention comedy, animated comedy,
ever created by humans.
Like the impact of those, theeffect of those, the

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groundbreakingness of those,like they are objectively some
of the best pieces of I don'tknow media that humans have made
.
And people are like, yeah, itsucks, show's over whatever.
And it's really funny then tothink about that looking back on
those are, you know, that islike the golden era and the
golden age and all that, andpeople were still like, nah,

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this sucks at the time.
So you know that idea of thingsbeing the internet comes with,
you know, the ability for peopleto just share whatever thoughts
they happen to have.
And normally, as a person, youhave a thought and it can enter
your brain.
You can have the thought and itcan leave your brain.
You don't necessarily have tosay it with anyone, you don't
necessarily have to share itwith anyone.

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Maybe you do blurt it out loudto a friend or something, but it
can kind of end there, whereas,especially online now, things
are they're put in writing,they're put on video, they're
put into audio, much like I'mdoing right now, and then
they're there forever and thatgives them a weight.
That thought is not justsomething you had once.
It's something that happensevery single time.
Somebody sees it, every singletime somebody hears it or

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encounters it.
And that's something new withthe internet, but it is
something.
It is definitely something Ithink to be aware of, and it is
what I think is very differentfrom those Usenet message boards
in the 1990s is now how likeinterwoven our real lives and

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our online lives are.
I mean, even not in the grandscheme of things, not that long
ago, like the internet was anactivity you had to do Like I'm
going to go on the internet.
You'd like sit down at acomputer and then go to, you
know, go to your MySpace account, your Facebook account,
whatever you're, you know, seethe other opinions, hear the
other things and then leave.

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And there was, there was I amon the internet, I am not on the
internet, versus I'm just onthe internet, basically all the
time.
It's very, very different andso that impact, like the things,
the idea of like, just ignoreit, just put it out of your mind
it can be so loud and so hardto avoid that I don't think
that's that advice is aspractical or even possible as it

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used to be in the past, and sothe things that we share and see
online have more of effect nowthan ever before, which I don't
think that's like a new, a newthought to have, but it really
is something that can also beseriously affecting for, like
the online content creator space, both as a creator and as a
viewer, as an audience, because,as someone who makes stuff, you

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are affected by what otherpeople share, what other people
think.
You're affected by what thepeople who consume what you make
share and think about it, andthen the people who consume
stuff are affected by whatyou're making, and if you're
making is affected by otherpeople.
It's all like everything isjust, you know, affecting
everything all the time,everywhere, and so it's.

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It is very, very different, andsomething I have noticed that
this leads to which, again, notnecessarily new, but what's new
about this is, I think, theprevalence of it and the like I
I've just never really seen somany adults, middle-aged adults,

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like older-ish adults, withkind of the too cool for school
attitude.
That's something I kind ofexpect from teenagers Like right
, we all go through that teenagephase of like this sucks,
everything sucks.
Like people don't know that theworld sucks, like that's just
part of like your brain beingboiled in hormones.
As an adult, that kind of goesaway and it's very strange,

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especially as someone whosefull-time job is running a
YouTube channel and makingcontent online.
The number of people Iencounter in similar positions
who, by all accounts, have everymeasure of success and
privilege and opportunity andjust feel like a sense of

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entitlement, a sense of likecynicism and also a sense of
like I'm so above this.
I'm way too cool for school.
The I'm too cool for thisattitude is by far my least
favorite attitude, my leastfavorite character trait that
someone can have, and it's noteven close.
I cannot stand when people havethis like.

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I just can't stand thisattitude at all.
And it should be pretty obviousat this point.
If you're listening to thispodcast and you watch the stuff
I make for any amount of time,that should be pretty obvious.
But that goes back to being akid and being excited about
stuff and then other peopletelling me that stuff is dumb.
That goes back to being ateacher and you know

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encountering those high schoolstudents and those teenagers who
are in that, you know, boilingbrain hormone phase, where they
are in the, you know, likeeverything's dumb phase, and
trying my best to overcome that,to help them kind of see
through that and to discoverthings and to discover like a
fun and a passion and a joy forthe world and life and different

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opportunities that can pop upand different interests and
different things that you can doand explore as a person and
seeing the the effect that thatcan have, because you can.
Even at that point you canovercome it.
You can discover things andseeing how people could
completely change and like theirlives could completely change
for the better because of it.
You know that became incrediblyimportant and then jumping into

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, you know, creating stuffonline and trying to share a
generally like positive,enthusiastic point of view and
perspective and seeing thatbecome less and less common over
the years has been somethingthat genuinely concerns me and
that's, you know, that's kind ofwhy we're here having this
discussion right now.
So, yeah, the too cool forschool attitude I cannot stand

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it because it affects everybody.
It puts yourself in a negativemental space because you're just
kind of walking around thinkingthat everything sucks.
You know, at the time I'mrecording this, yesterday,
nintendo announced the or theydidn't really announce it, but
they gave all the details on theSwitch 2.
So their new console, the likesuccessor to the Nintendo Switch

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, which is one of the mostsuccessful video game consoles
ever made I think it might it'sreal close to breaking the
record for most consoles eversold of like a single generation
.
If it's not, if it hasn'tbroken the record, it's like
right there and it is an amazingconsole.
It's like still pretty great.
Like, eight years after itsrelease, they announced the
other one, which is like prettysweet, it can do a lot of cool

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stuff.
It seems like wow, you guyshave actually been working on
this really hard for the pastnumber of years to, you know,
have a great successor to thething that is very successful.
And, of course, the onlinecommunity.
The ever, ever, alwaysreasonable online community's
reaction is mostly negative it'smore expensive.
Oh, there's not that different,everything just sucks.
And it's like I'm not sayingyou know, buy into all of the

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marketing propaganda that thecompany produces and think that
the thing is great.
I talk about that all the timeLike form your own opinions and
have your own experiences withthings, don't?
That's even why Heather and I,like Nintendo does their
Nintendo Direct, where theyannounce stuff, instead of just
like reading the websites,reading the social media posts,
watching the YouTube videos,just watch the whole hour long
Nintendo Direct so we can see itfor ourselves and then we can

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decide, oh, that seems cool oryeah, that's, that part doesn't
seem as great.
This seems cool Like we canform our own opinions because
we're seeing the source materialourselves.
We're not just piling on whatother people are already saying.
So when you, when you have thatI'm too cool for this and like
everything is stupid, no onerealizes it puts you in a really
negative space.
Just go through the world thatway, like when you just think

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everything is dumb andeverything is stupid, and it
also then potentially makesother people feel bad and it can
make other people feel dumb forbeing excited about things, and
this is like this is where itmight get a little ranty.
So here's an example.
I mean this is something, oneof my like the worst feelings I

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have in the world that that thatI can't, I don't even know that
I honestly want to sharespecific experiences, but it's
times where I am having likeincredible fun, I'm very excited
about something, I'm enjoyingmyself.
And then I sort of get knockeddown to earth by someone saying,
like you're doing that wrong,this is dumb, like what are you
doing?
And then that, just like, itmakes me just want to literally

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close up and never like speakanother word to a person, again,
like and that sucks, and thatlike, those feelings I've had
those feelings from you know,second grade, elementary school
up until you know now, like thathappens, that happens
throughout life and it really itis a really crummy way to make

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another person feel.
And so when you, when you gothrough the world with this
attitude of everything sucks andI it's, I'm too cool for school
, you really do run the risk ofmaking other people feel that
way If you want to ruin your ownday you know, if you want to
like spit in your own dinner andeat it, that's fine, but don't
do, don't spit in everybodyelse's meals, like don't ruin it
for everybody else, and that'salmost like.

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I don't wanna say it's worsebecause it's like a cycle, but
to me that is pretty damn awfulto make people feel that way.
Like here's kind of the example, and I do have a specific thing
.
So the thing that kicked me offinto wanting to actually like

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turn this into a podcast episodeis we are in the season of NAB,
which I've talked about, theNational Association of
Broadcasters Convention in LasVegas.
Actually, the day this podcastis being published is right in
the midst of NAB, which is greatbecause the gear of the week
segment can be something that isannounced at NAB.
So cutting edge right there.

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Nab is cool.
It's something that's beenaround for decades.
It's something that I wanted togo to for a long, long, long,
long time and was finally ableto go to for the first time last
year and had a prettyincredible experience there.
It was awesome and I know likeyou could break it down and be
like well, it's just a bunch ofcompanies trying to like get
customers or whatever.
Yeah, but it's also a chance tosort of you get to nerd out

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about stuff you're excited aboutwith other people who actually,
like, speak the same languageand are also excited about it,
and that is really really cool.
You know, if you're someone whofeels like maybe you don't
always get to talk to people whounderstand the things that
you're into or you know there'snot always an outlet for it, you
can go to a place where there'sjust so much of it that it's,
you know, it's.

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It feels really nice whenyou're surrounded by people who
speak the same language as you,even if we're not just talking
about regular language, andthat's super cool.
I also get, you know, if you'rea vendor and you go to those
things setting up your boothsand being there those long days
I know it's exhausting Totallyget it.
I also totally get if it'ssomething that you've been going
to for many, many years, youmight kind of go like okay, I've

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seen it Like I've gone onYouTube and I've watched NAB
footage from like the 80s andthe early 90s, which is crazy.
It's like really fun, eventhough the gear and everything
is obviously very different.
The convention itself kind oflooks similar, like it's like
wow, okay, this has just beenhappening for a long time.
So I get it.
You've been doing it for a longtime, especially if you've been

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doing it in a work capacity andless of a like exploration fun
capacity.
Something like that couldbecome kind of like a drag.
I used to go to certainconventions and conferences
every year when I was a teacherand I remember some of them, you
know, like the first year ortwo I went, it was like, oh my
God, this is cool, like I'mgoing to every session, I'm
talking to cool people, I'mtaking stuff away that I want to

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implement, and by like theeighth or ninth time I was going
, it was like okay, what are thethings I have to do?
When can I squeeze a nap in thehotel room?
I get that, but at least evenin those cases, I was always
conscious that, like when I'm atthe event, I'm at the event,
and that's something I even usedto tell my students like I
would have students sometimes,especially at the beginning of
the year.

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Every once in a while there'dbe a couple of kids that like
didn't choose to be in mydigital media program but their
counselors or whatever, justsort of put them there because
they needed to go somewhere andthey would, you know, they'd
usually kind of be sulking inthe back and they wouldn't be
that into it and they'd, youknow, be very emo, teenager-y
and sometimes they'd give meattitude or they'd be you know,
they'd start having behaviorproblems or something like that.
And I remember specificallysomething I used to say

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regularly.
But there was one student inparticular who I remember was
just like it was confusingbecause I knew she didn't choose
to be in the class.
So I was like that's fine, likeI empathize with you.
This is an elective program.
If this is not what you electedto do, I totally get why you'd
be frustrated.
Let's find you, let's find yousomewhere else.

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I'm not going to be offendedthat you want to go to a
different class or somethingelse.
Like it's your time, it's yourdaily.
You know, like schoolexperience, you should go to
that other class.
And she was like no, no, no, Idon't want to go to another
class, like I'll stay here.
I'm like okay, and then shewould have a bad attitude and

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not do anything.
I remember saying like okay,you seem like you really don't
want to be here, so you shouldgo to your counselor and get a
schedule change.
And she was like no, no, no, Iwant to be here.
And I remember the thing.
I was like so frustrated butthe thing that popped out of my
head was if you want to be here,then be here.
And I was like God, that'sreally effective.
If you actually want to be here, then be here.

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Like do the things.
You're going to have such abetter experience and if you've
had the chance to leave and youdidn't take it, that means
you've chosen to be here, so behere fully.
And she eventually did becomelike one of my really good
students.
You know like she was involvedin lots of stuff, actually had
like multiple classes.
So she was in my classroom liketwice a day, really did cool
things and like discovered, youknow, awesome skills and

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capabilities, was part of ourschool's broadcast.
So she was like on camera infront of everybody every day,
which is very scary and a lot oflike a lot of students don't
want to do that.
So eventually, like kind ofgave herself the permission to
sort of like okay, fine, I'lltry.
This thing Ended up having agreat time, but that was sort of
my.
That was the thing that I tookaway, which I shared with many

(27:32):
other students and myself allthe time.
It's like if you want to behere, then be here.
And the reason I bring all thatup is because this past week I
was, I made the mistake ofscrolling through some social
media and I saw a post on aplatform trying to be as vague
as possible, I'll post on aplatform by a very well known

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YouTube creator in the audiovideo ish niche.
Someone who's great, doesincredible work, super nice
person.
I've met them in person before.
They're very, very nice, andall that they said you know
apropos of nothing was somethinglike so glad I'm not going to
NAB this year, like such arelief, this is great, kind of
like.
I was like why would you?

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Why would you say that?
Okay, so, that kind of annoysme.
But then there's a whole threadof people just sort of bashing
nab and going oh my god, yeah,oh, it's so terrible this past
few years.
Oh, I can't believe.
Blah, blah, blah.
Every once in a while there'dbe a new.
Like a person showing up goinglike oh bummer, like I was
hoping to be able to see youthere.

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Or like I've been going to nabfor 20 years and it's one of my
favorite things and I was likethis like discussion thread
sucks.
This makes me feel terrible.
I feel dumb now for beingexcited about this thing, which
I know.
People just have differentopinions.
Someone may have gone to thismany mirrors, they're exhausted,
they're ready to take a break,which is fine.
But like why do you have toannounce it to the world?
Why can't you just do that?

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And now it creeps into my brainof like wait, I'm excited, like
should I be excited?
Obviously, I know.
You know, know I have my ownpath and I can stick to my own
things.
But you know, if you're eating,say, you go to a restaurant and
you're like I really like thefood here, this food is
delicious, and you tell somebodyI really love the food at that
restaurant, they go oh, that'smy least favorite restaurant.

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You know that like, well, Ilike it and I'll keep going.
I'm gonna have good food, butthere's gonna be at least a
little part of you for a second.
That's like wait, am I, am Imissing something?
Am I not understandingsomething?
Am I wrong?
And obviously you're not wrong,because you're tasting the food
and you like the food andeverything's good, but and they
just have the other person'shaving a different opinion and a
different experience.

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So, like that's, that's okay,those things are fine, but their
opinion can affect you to somedegree.
It could be very minor, whereit just gets brushed off
instantly, or it could besomething.
Now, every time you go to thatrestaurant, you're like so that
person doesn't like it, so thething that I'm eating now they
went like that.
What do they not like?
Do they not like the service?
Do they not like the atmosphere?
Do they not like the food?
Like what is?

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You know, it could be you couldbe thinking well, I thought I
liked that restaurant, but maybeit isn't that good, maybe I
should try different ones, maybeI should.
And suddenly, like you couldeventually be making decisions
that are not really thedecisions you would make
normally, but they're influencedtoo much by someone else's
random negative opinion.

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And this was kind of that like Ifelt.
For a split second I felt dumbabout being excited for NAB,
because I was like, oh yeah, itis something, I guess that, like
, people are over now and it'slike no, and then I'm looking at
sorry, I'm going to get.
This is where I'm going to geta little ranty.
I'm looking at, you know, thepeople replying, a lot of which
are also well-known contentcreators in the space, and it's

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like all I'm seeing areattitudes of entitlement,
attitudes of cynicism, attitudesof jadedness.
They're very much too cool forschool, I have to say.
I'm sorry.
It's almost like the more Ipeek behind the curtain of the
content creator world, the moredisappointed I am a lot of the
time, and that sucks.
But there's one of the bestthings about YouTube and the

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best things about you know,building relationships via the
internet and, you know,potentially even then turning
those into where you can, youknow, meet up in real life at
something like NAB or any timeor whatever is, at least in my
case, I feel lucky that I havebeen able to find just
incredibly high quality peoplethat are just awesome, and so

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when I meet them in person orhave any kind of like, more
one-on-one interaction, it'slike you are the exact same
person that I, that I expectedyou to be Like.
You seem exactly like, you areexact.
You have legs now, becausemaybe I couldn't see.
You can see your legs because Ionly see you like medium shot
on YouTube or something, butlike, hey, you got legs, or
people are significant.
Usually people are way tallerthan you expect them to be.

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It's like the opposite ofHollywood, where celebrities are
like shorter than you expectbecause everything is geared
towards making people lookbigger and taller.
I think with YouTube, peopleare like it is so just, I'm
gonna put the camera at eyelevel or you people just kind of
working with what they got, alot of times very tall people
don't look tall and suddenly you, you go to a convention and it
feels like you're in a redwoodforest because everybody's just

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like giant, but you didn't knowthat.
Anyway, that's usually for themost part.
The biggest difference is likepeople are taller than I thought
they would be, but otherwise,personality wise, you know,
they're exactly the same.
There is a subset where it islike, oh, there's a mask, and

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when they are not on camera, themask comes off and you it's
just not the same at all.
And it makes me realize, wow,the things I thought, everything
I thought is wrong and it'sjarring.
And it is also like it'sdisappointing, because I'm kind

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of naive and I sort of assumethere's certain things that sort
of connect us.
Just through the basics of likeyou like making videos, I like
making videos.
That probably means maybe youlike cameras, cameras, maybe
like microphones, even if yourvideos aren't about cameras and
microphones.
And then you find someone elseLike.
I've had people say like I don't, you know, I've had people say
that they do not care what theymake as long as it goes viral.

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So they don't.
You know, I've had people showme like Instagram posts that are
just they're like I spent twoseconds on this.
This is absolute garbage.
Look at that 17,000 likes.
And I'm like, wow, that sucks.
It's not that you have to spenda year on something for it to
be good.
I don't care.
If you spent two seconds onsomething.
It could be cool, you could dosomething very cool in two
seconds, but, like, what acrummy thing to expect other

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people to spend their time on.
It's just it's, it's lame, it'sall lame.
I didn't like seeing thediscussion of a bunch of people
who I feel appear to be in veryprivileged positions, acting
like entitled little babies, andI think that that's gross and I
think that that's.
I honestly think that that'sunacceptable, unprofessional,
and if you don't like it thatmuch, go somewhere else.

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But if you want to be here,then be here, like.
If you don't like it that much,go somewhere else.
But if you want to be here,then be here, like.
If you want to be in the worldof online content creation, be
in that world.
Sorry, I'm going to stop therebefore I kind of go off a little
much, but obviously this issomething that affects me,
because if you go back to like,what is the title of this show

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that you're watching?
Or the show that you'relistening to, this very podcast,
the Enthusiasm Project, that ismy favorite quality.
So the too cool for schoolmentality, the antidote to that
is enthusiasm.
The antidote to that is beingexcited about stuff is and
that's one of the.
That's one of the huge reasons,especially in high school,
while why the Aquabats the bandbecame such a hugely impactful

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thing to me was because I likeit's fun, like it's all just fun
, it's.
It's visual, it's fun, it'sappealing, the music is good,
like I loved all that, but it'salso like it's casting off every
bit of like this is how I'msupposed to be cool, like this
is what I'm supposed to do andI'm supposed to think that that
sucks and it's like, oh no, youcan just like have a lot of fun,

(35:13):
like doing stuff that you likeand following you know your
interests and your genuineenthusiasms and stuff, and that
is, it turns out, a way betterexperience than just trying to
sit back with everyone likesaying how they, I, I know I
told this story, so I apologizeif you're hearing it again, but

(35:35):
I know it's been.
It's probably been four or fiveyears since I've told this
story.
When I was a kid I must havebeen.
This was the summer beforesummer.
Before this was the summerbefore seventh grade.
So my school, elementary school, was kindergarten through sixth

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grade and my middle school wasseventh and eighth and then high
school was nine through 12.
So in between.
This was the summer in betweenelementary school and middle
school and that's what.
Sorry, sorry, I know this isvery important details.
This might've been betweenfifth and sixth grade, it was.
One of those Point is I went tothe same elementary school from

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kindergarten through fifthgrade and, yeah, this was what
it was.
It was before sixth grade.
So, sorry, I got to get mydetails right here.
Okay, so I went to the sameelementary school, kindergarten
through fifth grade.
When I was in third grade, ourtown opened up a second
elementary school and a bunch ofkids went there, but it was in
a more affluent neighborhood, soit was kind of like the rich

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kids went to that school, whichalso tended to be the kids who,
you know, were a little moresuccessful academically.
For the most part, I was at theother school, which is, yeah,
and there was a group of peoplethat were my friends, because we
were just the kids who went tothe school and we were in, you
know, the kindergarten classtogether, the first grade
classes together, and that waswhat I thought my friend group

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was.
But as we were, you know,growing up and going, especially
like getting into like fourthand fifth grade, I was like
these people are kind of mean,like they seem mean, they're
making me like act and say anddo things that I don't really
like, that don't really feellike I go home at the end of the
day feeling bad.
And I was always the one likeyou know, there's a pecking

(37:25):
order of a social group in anelementary school or any
situation, I guess butespecially those, I was always
the one like you know, there's apecking order of a social group
in an elementary school or anysituation, I guess, but
especially those, I was alwaysat the very, very bottom.
So it was always like you know,I'm trying to justify just
being part of the group at allLike like everyone's looking you
know everyone has like theperson they look down on to make
fun of the whole group.
I was just down at the verybottom, so it's like that also

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leads to me like, oh yeah, I'll,I'll bring this thing for
everybody, I'll do this, I'lltake care of that, I'll do
whatever, just like please,don't, please don't abandon me.
And it kind of sucked and itfelt really crummy and luckily,
what ended up happening, whatended up happening was two days
into the sixth grade school year, so it's actually sorry I'm

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getting my timelines weird.
Two days into the sixth gradeschool year, the same thing
started happening.
It was like the same group,we're all in the same class,
everybody was just being awful.
And I went home that day and Iwas like I I told my mom, like I
really can't, I can't go back.
Like I can't.
We're two days into a schoolyear, I have 180 days left.
I can't do this.

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Like I just can't.
I don't know why that clickedwith her, because normally
that's something you should belike you go to school, I have to
go to work.
It is what it is.
But literally the next day sheenrolled me at the other
elementary school, which which,like, had some kids that I knew
that I had gone to my earlieryears with when the schools were

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combined, but also had a bunchof new people that I didn't know
, and it was like they weren'tmaking the judgment of like, oh,
you're the dorky kid fromkindergarten or first grade.
They were just like who are younow?
I met one of my best friendsever in life because we were
both out in dodgeball like everyday, and so we would spend a
lot of time just sort of beingout waiting for the next round

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to start, and then we would juststart talking and joking and
that's.
We both were into cameras andmovies and wanting to make
videos and all that kind ofstuff, and we made like hundreds
and hundreds of videos together, learned how to edit together,
like I mean, he, he has like amaster's degree in
cinematography from like areally high end school.
Like, yeah, and that was cool,like it was really fun to

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encounter people like that.
All that to say that summernormally I'm not really entirely
sure why normally I would justkind of be latchkey kid home
alone during the summer, but forsome reason I had to go to the

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Boys and Girls Club the localBoys and Girls Club for a couple
of days a week, and I don'tknow, I'm not really sure why.
I think it was like you needmore social skills maybe.
So I went there, not normallythe kind of thing that I would
be involved with, but it wascool, it was fine.
And then, of course, for somereason which is so funny because
it's like it's the Boys andGirls Club, like it's a place
you go for like summeractivities but a huge group of
the kids from my previous schoolshowed up.

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This must have been the summerright before seventh grade,
because we were all going to getsmushed back together in junior
high and I was not lookingforward to that.
So I'm like 12 years old at thetime and they show up and
they're just little a-holes thewhole time.
They're just like making fun ofeverybody.
They're you know, of coursethey're trying to break stuff
like the Boys and Girls Clubwould have like you know, here's

(40:39):
, you know, materials for laterfor another activity over here,
here's this, and it's like, ofcourse they'll go and like mess
with everything and then justsort of like sit on the side and
just be cynical jerks.
I also had a friend that I hadknown for a long time but we
never went to the same school,so anytime we ever hung out it
was always like on our own,separately.
We never had like day-to-dayschool encounters and he went to

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that boys and girls club and hewas super cool.
He was like just a super nice,like normal kid who was just
very, very nice and also totallyon board with like they're
gonna do like a basketballtournament Awesome, let's go do
that.
They're gonna do a gymnasticsthing Awesome, let's go do that.
Like whatever they were doing.
It was like, yes, I'm down forwhatever the boys and girls club
has planned and I like that alot.

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And so the rhythm that wesettled into for the first like
couple weeks was he and I wouldget there early, at like 8am,
we'll say, and for the first twohours you know just kind of be
us and we'd just be having a tonof fun.
And then around like 10am thatother group of like jerks would
show up and I felt like that's.

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I was like I got to go and Iliterally remember, I have the
image in my head of like themwalking in and it's even like
just because the way thebuilding was, like walking in
the front glass, like doorwindow things, and the sun is
behind him, and I just rememberlike it's like silhouettes, like
like the angels of deathshowing up because they were
here to kill all the fun.
And I remember, like even myother friend, like he would

(42:13):
always be, like okay, I'll seeyou later.
And then, like he knew theywould show up, I would leave and
then all we would do all day,like everyone would be doing all
the activities and all we woulddo is just sit against the wall
and they would just say likelook at the person's stupid.
That kid can, kid can't run.
They're never going to makethat shot.
These kids are so dumb.
Like it was just that all day Iwas like you're spending like
five hours just doing this andit's so.

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It was just like infuriatingand it's like I'm not.
I just I hated it and Iremember there was one day.
This was, this was a greatexperience actually, so I'm glad
I'm telling the story again.
There was one day same thinghappened.
I got there early.
My one really nice friend wasthere.
We were playing basketball,just like I don't know, two

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relatively unathletic kidstrying to put the basketball
through the hoop.
And we're having fun, we'rejust goofing around, talking,
playing games, whatever.
And then the thing happened.
The angels of death emergedthrough the silhouetted door and
I I have the image burned intomy brain of him sitting there,
going like okay.
And you can see, like you know,a 12 year old's not great at
hiding their disappointment.
You can see the disappointmenton his face and I remember the

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sadness, as he's like holdingthe basketball and he's like
okay, I'll see you later.
And those kids are walking andthey're doing the like little 12
year old tough kid walk of likeyou know, like shoulders to the
side, I think they like walletchains and stuff, cause it's
like the nineties, um.
And I was like I'm going tohang out here.
And he, I'd like the instantjoy of like what?

(43:39):
And I was like, yeah, I don'twant to go hang out with them.
And he was like, oh my God, hewas just so happy.
Happy because it's like wedidn't know how to communicate.
I don't know how to share whatI was feeling to him.
He didn't know how to sharewhat he was feeling to me like
why are you going over there?
Why am I like your second ratefriend, even though I'm clearly
a better friend?
Like no idea how to communicate.
That it was just like it wasjust fun.

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And I remember like yeah, okay,let's just play again.
And I remember it was the thinglike those kids showed up and
they're like they did like getover here, come over.
And I was like no, I'm overhere.
And then I remember then theysat down and did the thing where
they just spent the whole daysitting against the wall making
fun of everyone really drivinginto me, because I had like
decided to hang out with thedorky kids instead of that, the

(44:22):
cool kids.
And I remember the feeling oflike, oh I, I don't care, like
it actually doesn't matter atall.
Like and they are so dumb for,like, spending their whole
summer vacation just sittingagainst a wall looking at people
having fun and saying thatthey're stupid, like, can you
guys not see that this is sortof the dumbest thing in the
world?
The excuse that I'll give thosekids is they were 12.

(44:44):
The things I'm talking about,that I'm seeing, you know,
happen online in the discourse.
Now these people are like intheir 40s.
Maybe it's the same kids.
The timeline would kind of drag.
But, like, I'm a little lesspatient with that and I really
feel the thing of if you chooseto be here, be here.

(45:05):
If you want to go to anindustry convention, go.
If you don't, don't go to it.
But you don't have to publiclysay how terrible it is, which
makes other people feel dumb,potentially feel dumb for
enjoying it.
Like, growing up in SouthernCalifornia, I live like 100
miles away from Disneyland, sothroughout my life I've been
lucky enough to be able to go toDisneyland probably like 100

(45:25):
times, had annual passes.
Back in the day when they were.
It was like $260 for an annualpass, which is crazy.
I don't even think you get infor a day for that price now,
which is why I haven't gone in along time.
Disneyland got really, reallyexpensive and that's that.
But I don't go aroundbroadcasting that aside from
this very moment, to make anexample, because other people

(45:46):
really like still going toDisneyland.
I would still like to go, butit's just, it's crazy expensive
and crowded.
But other people really enjoyit.
Some people have never gone andthey get to go for the first
time.
So I don't want to sit here andsay all the things that like it
used to be better.
This, this sucks.
Now this isn't as good.
No, I'm tired of that.
Now I don't want to do that.
I want to be able to, to letthem have their fun, have their

(46:10):
own experiences and enjoy it,and if anything, like I can tell
you all this stuff oh yeah, Ilove this part, love this, love
that, love that.
Here's some cool memories fromwhen I like I can share all the
good things and keep thecriticisms to myself, you know,
unless I'm in a discussion wherethose are valid.
Like someone from Disney islike hey, why haven't you come
in a few years, we would like toknow.
Okay, here's some feedback, butI don't need to ruin someone

(46:31):
else's experience for no reasonand I just can't.
I think I'm just running out ofpatience as the host of a
podcast called the EnthusiasmProject.
I'm running out of patience forthe too cool for school
attitude and project.
I'm running out of patience forthe too cool for school
attitude, and it's not evenclose.
So let's talk about.

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I don't want to just complain,I don't want to just be a
complainer, I want to talk about.
What can we do about this Ingeneral?
What are some things to keep inmind?
I have a feeling, if you're thisfar into this podcast episode,
we're probably not too differentin terms of how we feel about
things and the things we thinkabout things.
So, going back to Blink 182,what?
Going back to Blink-182, what'smy age, again, as an adult?
If your responsibilities arecovered, your commitments are
covered.
You know you're not puttingyourself in any kind of like

(47:13):
peril who cares.
Do what you want, like you'regood.
We're all gonna be dead at somepoint in the relatively near
future, probably in the grandscheme of things, even if it's
within the next 50 to 100 years.
That's pretty, pretty soon.
So do you want to spend yourtime sitting against the wall
making fun of people having fun,or do you want to be someone
that's out there actually havingfun and enjoying yourself?

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So if you're, if you got allyour boxes checked, who cares?
If you want to dive into thingsthat seem like, oh, I shouldn't
be doing that as an adultanymore, no, 100%.
You should Remember what it waslike when you were a kid
without having jerk friendsinfluenced you.
Remember how you would justlike explore things.
Remember how things would justsort of catch your attention,

(47:57):
like, as a kid, microphones.
I very much remember the firsttime I like held a microphone
which was some iteration of anSM7, not an SM7B, an SM58.
Actually, perfect, perfectserendipity, it was one of the
wireless ones, whatever thatwould have been.
In 1993, 1994-ish, we did aplay I think I mentioned this on
the podcast before I was.

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I think in this one I wasSamuel Adams, one of the British
colonists to America, and I itwasn't about the beer, it was
about it was about americanhistory, um, and I remember like
getting to hold the microphoneand coming out on stage and the
thing that popped into my brainwas one of.

(48:38):
My line was like we are thecolonists.
But I remember holding themicrophone and hearing what it
felt like to like my voice ishere but I can kind of hear it
throughout the whole auditoriumand there was something about
like I swear I could feel themicrophone like sucking in the
sound which obviously themicrophones don't do that but
like I felt like I could feelthe air getting pulled into the

(48:58):
mic.
There was something I justloved about using the microphone
and the way the microphoneworked and what it could do.
I thought that was so cool.
I didn't know why I microphoneworked and what it could do.
I thought that was so cool.
I didn't know why, I didn'tthink about why, but I loved it.
And from that day on I was likeI'm really pretty psyched about
microphones to this day righthere.
But remember that when you werea kid you just kind of like
things.
You might see something a color, a pattern, a TV show, hear a

(49:19):
song, like anything in the world.
You just find something likethat's kind of cool and you just
sort of like go explore it.
Like how many of us havememories of weird things from
like young childhood.
Like maybe you're five or sixyears old and you're just kind
of bored around your house andyou're just sort of like I don't
know.
I remember stuff.
Like I would just, you know,I'd always be playing with

(49:40):
whatever's around.
So I'd you know, we'd have likea coaster on the coffee table
and I would like spin thecoaster around or something.
But it'd be like oh, thiscoaster is made out of metal.
I really like the way thismetal feels.
This is cool.
Like you're just sort offinding out like weird things
about.
Like I like this.
I don't like that.
This is really neat.
And you're not thinking likewhat does that mean?
What can I do with that?

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How is that going to help mycareer?
How's that going to help mynetworking?
You know, am I?
Is to help my networking, youknow, am I?
Is there a proper return oninvestment for this?
Is somebody going to pay me andcompensate me appropriately for
this?
You're just like I think thisis cool.
I think this is cool.
I want to try this.
As you're a kid, you try newthings.
You fail at them all the time.
You're trying to ride your bike, you fall over.
You're trying to learn toroller skate or whatever.
You crash, you fall over, youhurt yourself trying to play

(50:21):
instruments.
You're trying to do anythingand you're really bad at it and
sometimes you give up.
And sometimes you keep goingand then you get better and
eventually you'll just sit thereand just try the same thing.
You'll sit there at thebasketball hoop and try to make
the same shot over and over andover and over again until you
make it, and then you make itagain and again and eventually
you can learn how to dosomething pretty consistently

(50:41):
and you just have fun.
You don't really think beyondthe fact that it sparked
something in you as an adult.
No matter what your age, you canstill pay attention to those
sparks.
What are those things in theworld, despite how like bleak
things can feel and howmainstream media, anything,
social media, all the things aredesigned to keep your attention
and a way to do that is to makeyou think that everything is

(51:04):
just terrible and the worst it'sever been and you need to keep
paying attention for your ownsanity and security.
That's just gonna drive youinsane.
There's still so much coolstuff that you can just go focus
on and, like anytime, you feelthat spark, that childlike spark
of this is neat, that's cool.
What's that?
Realize that and follow that.
Who cares where it goes Doesnot need to boost your LinkedIn

(51:27):
profile.
It can just be a thing youenjoy and you find and you can
have a lot of fun with it andthat, yeah, I think that that's.
I think that's one of the bestthings to do.
Remember what it's like to be akid.
Find the things that speak toyou personally as an individual.
Be critical of stuff, becauseyou are an adult now.
You do have life experience.
It doesn't mean you have tolove everything.

(51:49):
You want to be a criticalthinker.
You want to be able to kind ofdecipher things and understand
like not into that.
But be careful.
I would just ask you to becareful with your negative
opinions.
You know, do you need to sharethat negative thought or is it
something you can keep toyourself?
Is it valuable to somebody elseto hear that, or is it just
gonna ruin their fun and justkind of ruin their day?

(52:09):
You know that's a big reasonwhy I don't like to do a lot of
negative reviews on my channelis because I don't want to get
something, even if I don't likeit.
Say that it sucks, and then Ithink of the person who just got
the thing is super excitedabout it, looking up YouTube
videos about that thing, and nowthey're like, oh, that sucks, I
thought this was cool, but Iguess it's not.
It's like nothing changed,except I put a negative thought

(52:32):
into their head.
So be careful with how youshare negative opinions and
criticisms.
If you do need to share thembecause there is time there,
that's what I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to walk the linehere.
If you do need to share that,is there a way to do it
positively and constructively?
Later, when I talk about themost recent video I made, I'm
going to kind of share anexample where I tried to do that
and it really feels like welive in a world where fun is

(52:58):
something that is missingcompared to how it used to be,
and I think there's a lot ofreasons for that, and my main
goal today is to kind of justpoint that out and maybe offer
some reminders of, like, theimportance of fun in the world,
the importance of fun in ourlives and the probably now more

(53:35):
than ever importance, especiallyas an adult, of paying
attention to those things.
That sort of spark thosefeelings and then following them
with.
You know, wholeheartedlyfollowing them.
Cool.
Let's do a channel check in Seewhat's happening, because I got
this ties in perfectly toexactly what I was talking about
stuff that I stuff that I wantto share that I've been working
on Most recent video.
I titled it the best computerI've ever used and it's
essentially a three and a halfyear later review of my M1 Max
MacBook Pro.

(53:56):
And this is funny because thisties in so well with the topic
of today's show and actuallydidn't necessarily plan it that
way.
It's just like.
This is the video I made.
This is a topic I'm doing,something that happens anytime a
new computer comes out,especially an Apple computer,
especially because I was sovocal about how awesome the M1
series computers were when theyreleased and I still think that

(54:18):
they are.
I'm recording this on my basemodel M1 Mac mini eight
gigabytes of RAM, 256 gigabytesstorage.
Baby, these computers areamazing and if you used anything
prior, especially like an IntelMac, and you made this leap,
it's like this $600 Mac mini wasso much more powerful than like
my $3,500 Intel MacBook Prothat I was using prior, blew my

(54:39):
mind, thought it was absolutelyamazing.
Every time Apple comes out witha new computer.
I get bombarded with like areyou going to upgrade?
You should upgrade to this.
Get this on a Mac mini.
I don't need to this computerright now for what I need this
computer to do does everything Ineed it to do.
My M1 Max MacBook Pro handleseverything else.
It is a little bit morepowerful.
I needed the portability andthen the extra power, especially

(55:01):
when I switched to a 4Kworkflow, which is something I
did after I got the base modelMac mini.
That computer handles it muchbetter.
It works other than Mac OSbeing not as polished, I feel,
as it used to be.
The computer works every bit asgood as it did the day I got it
, maybe even better, becausesome stuff has even been
optimized in the years since,especially for the new M series
processors.

(55:22):
So this was sort of acombination of I always I don't
mind the are you going toupgrade question, but what I see
are lots of people who thenfeel that they need to upgrade
their computer, whether or notthey actually like need to, but
they feel like they shouldupgrade and I always I always
caution people on being carefulwhenever you feel like you
should do something Like do youreally think you should do that

(55:45):
or are you just being shoulded?
We don't want to show it allover ourselves here.
And that happens, of course,every time you know new Apple
computers come out.
People publish thesemeaningless benchmark scores
that are just like this got480,000 on this one benchmark
thing.
The old one was 440,000 on thebenchmark thing and I'm like

(56:05):
okay, my computer doeseverything I need it to do.
What is that extra thousands onthe benchmark?
What's it going to do for me?
What does it change?
There's no doubt that the newercomputers are better than the
older computers.
Like I would expect a newercomputer to be faster and more
powerful and more efficient thanthe older one, but, like,

(56:26):
especially with the M seriesApples as an example, the need
to upgrade is just notnecessarily there.
I've even seen people, like oniPhone launch release day, start
posting all over social medialike what do I order?
Tell me what to get.
I'm like you if you have to askthat question, you don't need
anything.
Like get a new phone.
If you want a new phone, if youneed a new phone and you have

(56:48):
the means to get one, go for it.
Otherwise you probably don'tneed.
You're fine.
Whatever you got, it's probablyfine.
You're going to put a case onit anyway.
It's going to look exactly likethe other phone anyway, so
you're probably fine.
And that's a thing where I justI when that happened this past
fall, when, like, new computerscame out, people were kind of
losing their minds.

(57:09):
I think the computers are great.
I think if you're in the marketfor a new computer, it totally
makes sense to get one.
If you're somebody who enjoysupgrading because you like it
you're a computer nerd you wantto always have the newest one.
That's cool too.
I really feel for the people whoare in the situation where what
they're seeing and reading andhearing makes them feel like

(57:30):
they need to and the thing theyhave isn't good enough.
So I actually wanted to make avideo called you Probably Don't
Need a New Computer, and I wasgoing to talk about what you
probably don't need to upgrade.
But I wanted to avoid thatbecause I felt like it was a
little bit too negative and itwas a little bit too critical
and I didn't want to.
I didn't want to make peoplefeel bad for upgrading anyone,
to make people feel bad forreviewing new computers, for

(57:52):
making video like that's not myplace and that's not.
I don't feel that those are badthings.
I just wanted to kind of lookout for this group of people
over here that was sort of beingshitted on.
It felt like so.
I liked the message in that,but I couldn't figure out a way
to communicate it in a way thatdidn't feel like unnecessarily
critical.
And so just last week I wasusing my computer out on the

(58:13):
just our kitchen table and I wastyping and I was.
I literally thought I waslooking.
I was like God, I love thiscomputer, like it.
You know, it's just a smalllittle thing on the kitchen
table.
And I was like this is, it'scrazy what I can do with this
super small, powerful thing.
And I like I love the design, Ilove the functionality.
I was like that's what I do isjust talk about I love my
computer.
It's three and a half years old.

(58:34):
There are better computers outthere now.
This one's great and in that Ican, even with I can more
tactfully talk about upgradingand I can, even, without
necessarily having to beatpeople over the head with a
hammer to get the point across,I can still communicate that
point.
So that's what I tried to dowith that video and I thought
that was really fun and it waskind of a cool.
I don't know.

(58:54):
I hope it's kind of a coolthing.
So I hope, if you watch that, Ihope you enjoy that and took
something away from it.
I have been doing NAB prepbecause, believe it or not, I am
excited for NAB.
If you're listening to this,that's where I should be.
Fingers crossed, we'll see.
Uh, you know, I don't know, Ican't predict the future, but,
uh, I'm very much excited aboutN out what I need to bring, what

(59:18):
I'm trying to make, what I wantto do.
I just like enjoying.
I just want to explore NAB, seewhat's there and just have a
lot of fun.
I am really really, reallylooking forward to NAB.
So I hope I can have kind of areport on that and maybe some
videos for you too to share also, and something else that I I'm
always a little nervous to sharethese kinds of things if

(59:40):
they're not done yet, but I amin the midst of revamping.
This has been a bigger projectthan I expected of my original
podcasting course, the PodcasterPlaybook.
I am redoing the entire thing,so it's been out for four years
now.
Two years ago, I like re GeorgeLucas remastered it and kind of
like, re edited some things andadded in some bonus lessons.
And now, two years ago, I likere George Lucas remastered it

(01:00:00):
and kind of like, re-edited somethings and added in some bonus
lessons.
And now, two years later, Ijust feel like I it's funny
because it's like it's not evenoutdated.
There's a couple little thingslike I refer to what is now
called Spotify for podcasters asanchor.
That's a really big deal, thetop of the main points of like
production and the things thatyou need and the like.

(01:00:21):
I really tried not to make thecourse tied down to a specific
piece of equipment, so it's notlike a Rodecaster Pro course.
It's like here you could use aninterface, you could use a
mixer, you could use astandalone recorder, like I'm
not tying it to gear so it's alittle more timeless.
But I've just sort of felt,like you can see, like my own
presentation style has evolved,my own production quality has

(01:00:42):
evolved and so I've always justfelt a little bit like, oh, if
somebody clicks on it, they'regonna, they're gonna see like a
recent video and they're gonnago there and it's not going to
match, even though it's likecompletely fine and I'm still
proud of it.
I just you know it's been.
I want to make sure it's asgood as it could possibly be, so
I've been redoing that.
So the it's a four sectioncourse, if you don't know, it's
how to produce your own podcastfrom start to finish.

(01:01:04):
You create your first episode,which also then helps you
establish a workflow.
So the first section isactually already done and I
decided I was going to redo thewhole course and then kind of
like like revise everything allat once, but uploading that many
videos and that much stuff,it's like it's kind of a
nightmare.
So instead I'm doing it sectionby section.

(01:01:25):
So I have the first of foursections entirely done.
If you, if you already have thecourse, you can log in and see
the new lessons are all thereand you know, anyone who signs
up now gets those Um and they.
You know the something I'mtrying not to do.
When I did the course originally, for some reason, continuity
was really, really important tome, and so it was like I can't
move the camera, I can't moveanything here.

(01:01:46):
I have to wear the same thingevery time.
So it's like everything looksexactly the same and I, you know
, I guess I wanted it to be likeconsistent, professional.
I had done it.
It was like the first bigproject I did after I left my
teaching job.
So I just wanted it to be likeas professional as possible,
which it is.
But it made it really hard toupdate stuff because it's like
any changes, like it's feels soout of place.

(01:02:08):
So, as I'm, as I'm revamping itspecifically, I'm trying to have
each of the four sections havea very different, like you know,
because I film usually I filmmultiple lessons in the same day
.
So I'm trying to make sure eachsection has like a different
setup.
So that way, just as you gothrough the course, you're going
to see different closes,different clothes, different

(01:02:30):
setups, different everythings.
But even within those sections,if I need to switch things
around or move or one, I like Ineed to get a haircut in the
middle.
So it's like you go throughlike lesson one and two and I
have like longer hair and alonger beard, and then you go to
like sections three and four,lessons three and four, and I
have like clean shave and shorthair, and then you go five, six,
seven and I have like long hairand like a beard again.
So, but that's fine.

(01:03:00):
I kind of wanted that to be thecase, where it's like we're make
this look like I made it all inone day, because I didn't.
It's a very big project andthen also over time it makes it
way easier.
If I need to change just onelesson for something, I can drop
in a new one.
It's not going to feel totallyout of place and I have like
bonus lessons and things.
So it's it feels just like moreto me.
It feels more vibrant and rich.
Overall, I'm really proud of it.
So I have that first sectiondone.
The second section, I have likerough edits of every lesson
done.

(01:03:20):
I need to do the final editsand then film and edit the final
two sections.
So that's something.
It's going to take a while.
I had to pause that to getready for NAB and everything.
I'm hoping I could have thatdone in the next month or two.
But it's just kind of.
You know, I want it to be asgood as possible.
So I don't want to rush it andI don't want to get tired with

(01:03:40):
it, Because I want I'm veryexcited about, very proud of it
with how it's coming along.
So that's, that's been a funthing and that if you have the
course, it's available andnothing changes.
You just log in, you havedifferent.
The lessons look different nowand I've also been able to bring
in video podcasting.
I was kind of debating.
I was like video podcasting issuch such a different thing,
like it almost should be aseparate course and this should

(01:04:02):
be audio production.
But the thing is, in 2025, whenpeople talk about podcasting, a
lot of people immediately go tolike video podcasting.
So for me to not like, for meto just outright exclude it
seemed weird.
I had a bonus section that waslike video podcasting basics.
That that's been there for acouple of years, about like
here's basic workflows, basicequipment, basic setups.

(01:04:24):
But now, as I'm redoing it, I'madding in video podcast lessons.
So like, for example, there's asection on recording hardware
and software.
It used to just be recordinghardware and software and now
it's two lessons.
There's audio recordinghardware and software, video
recording hardware and software.
And in the audio section Ispecifically say if you're doing
audio, only check out thislesson.
If you just want to watch thenext one for fun, go for it, but

(01:04:45):
you could skip it If you're notdoing a video podcast.
If you're doing a video podcast, watch both lessons.
So that way, you know, like,without being too distracting,
I'm able to weave in bothworkflows and both approaches
and I think that that I'm reallyhappy with how how that is
coming together, because itmakes me feel more confident,
that the course covers all thebases that everyone would need,

(01:05:06):
which just makes me moreconfident in it, you know,
because I want people to buy itand be happy with it, not like
feel like they didn't get enough.
So, anyway, that's a big thingthat I've been working on and
will continue to be working on.
And I'm scared you know that Idon't like talking about that
kind of stuff before it'sfinished, cause it's like it's
like when you tell someone likeI'm going to start dieting and
exercising every day, and thenyou're like, yeah, I feel pretty

(01:05:27):
good about doing that, and thenyou just don't do it.
But I'm I am in the midst ofthis, like I'm roughly halfway
done with it.
So I'm like, okay, we're thereand the course the existing
courses is great, like not totoot my own horn.
But you know, I, going back andwatching something you made a
while ago, it's like, oh no, Idid a good job, I actually put a

(01:05:47):
lot of effort into this and itis good, which is why, like,
people have said good thingsabout it.
So it makes sense, speaking ofgood things, we're going to do
gear spotlight, and I'm excitedfor this one because this is
something brand new that I thinkis actually pretty cool.
This is the it's a hilariousname to me the Saramonic K9, but
it is not a dog and it doesn'tsound like a dog.

(01:06:08):
It is a wireless microphonesystem, so this is something
that Saramonic is announcing atNAB.
It's already.
It's already.
They've had it like for sale ontheir website for a while, but
it's not officially announceduntil NAB, but it is something
that they that they sent out tome a while ago that I've been
using and I really want to sharewith you.

(01:06:28):
I'll probably find a way toincorporate this into its own
video, because this is is prettyawesome, so awesome, in fact,
that actually to set up a secondshot here on my RODECaster
video for the video versionwhich I'm using Ignore the crazy
oversaturation, because, yeah,I have my colors set for the
Canon and I'm using an OBSBOTTiny 2 webcam and that's what

(01:06:54):
I'm doing up here, which isawesome because this is one of
the few webcams.
I found that works with theRodecaster video, so plug it in
through USB and it works great.
But I just wanted to share theSaramonic K9 with you to see
what it is.
It's a dual transmitter UHFsystem, which there's been a
couple of these.

(01:07:14):
Most UHF microphone systems arewireless systems are single
transmitters, so you have a body, you have a receiver and a
transmitter.
Unless you get into, like thecrazy, crazy broadcast things
that they're using in likestudios and sports events and
stuff.
Dual transmitter UHF systemsare relatively new.
The only other one this isreally a direct competitor to

(01:07:34):
the Deity Theos, which came outmaybe like two years ago, a year
and a half ago, and I very muchprefer this, even though
they're similar in a lot of ways.
And the thing with Saramonicjust, you know, saramonic did
send this to me, you know, tocheck out.
I don't have to do anythingwith it.
Of course, we've talked abouthow that works.
This is pricey, though, andthat's why I want to.

(01:08:15):
This is a $1,000 MSRP for ago,which is basically like a
version of the DJI mic too.
It's a tiny wireless systemthere, and it's there's new
firmware.
So I want to kind of revisit ita bit, but honestly, I was
really not a fan of it.
I thought that for the priceyou know, you could jump up a
little bit more in price and getthe DJI, or you could get
something like cause it's alittle less expensive than that,

(01:08:37):
or you get something like causeit's a little less expensive
than that.
Or you get something like theSennheiser, which wasn't I
wasn't that into the buildquality or the sound.
There were just things that Ijust didn't like about it and I
kind of didn't like what adirect copy of the DJI it seemed
to be.
And I told them, I shared thatfeedback with them, um, and they
were like super open to it andvery, very cool about it.
And they, you know they thenalso filled in some blind spots

(01:08:59):
for me about like yes, but itdoes, you know, I don't know
here's frequency response thingsand it's kind of cool.
Like they have been reallygreat where I can say like, ah,
I'm not confused about this orI'm not sure about this or
whatever.
And they will, you know, sendme screen recordings and
whatever, like you know, littlepersonal video messages or
whatever to like explain thingsmore clearly, which I really

(01:09:21):
like, and they have not beenlike mean or offended or
whatever, and to defend theultra system they have done new
firmware which does seem toimprove things quite a bit.
So I kind of need to revisitthat.
But you know there's so many ofthose small wireless systems
that's pretty low on my prioritylist.
This.
The reason I tell you that isbecause I was kind of critical
of that system.
So I'm not somebody who justlike instantly loves everything

(01:09:42):
Saramonic does.
This is amazing, I like.
The build quality of thesethings is awesome, you know.
I mean they should be likethey're.
They're metal.
It is intended for more prolevel stuff.
This is the receiver right here, and then it comes with
antennas, if you're in the US.
So it also does have 32-bitfloat recording capabilities

(01:10:03):
built right in.
So in the battery compartmentoops of the transmitters,
there's a slot for a micro SDcard which the kit came with,
and then you can recordinternally.
You can record 32-bit floatinternally.
But and this is just goofylegal things if you're in the US
you can't record and transmitat the same time and that's not

(01:10:26):
a capability thing of the system, that's like a whatever.
It is a patent thing orcopyright thing or something
Trademark.
I'm not sure, if you're out ofthe US you can transmit and
record at the same time, and itcomes with a bunch of different
antennas, so depending on whatfrequency ranges you're at, uhf
gets a little more complicatedthan 2.4 gigahertz, but it comes
with different antennas forwherever you're at, whichever

(01:10:48):
frequencies you need.
It makes it super easy.
So and it comes in this coolcase.
Here I won.
Like I mentioned, the buildquality is awesome.
The transmitter has, you know,like the displays are really
nice and the menus are superintuitive.
Having used compact systemslike I use some of the really
really old Sennheiser ones whichwork really well in the last

(01:11:08):
forever, but like trying to gothrough the menu on, you know, a
10 year old device wasdifferent this is super
intuitive.
The menus work like incrediblywell.
They're super high res.
The receiver even has like atop LCD.
So if you can't see the frontof it, cause it's like mounted
on a camera or something, youcan at least see the levels on
the top, which is awesome.
Um, and you have different.
You can send different outputsfrom it.

(01:11:30):
So there's actually two outputson the receiver and you can
choose what mix you want.
If you want one mic from eachoutput.
If you want, both on one, ifyou want, if you want one mic
from each output, if you wantboth on one, if you want mono
stereo on one, like you cantotally customize your AB
outputs here, which is cool.
I haven't seen that before.
This is also what it's like IPXforget what it is, but it's,
you know, a basic level of waterand dust resistant, which is

(01:11:54):
kind of cool.
I don't know that you wouldwant to put them underwater or
anything, but there's at leastlike you don't have to freak out
if you use these in the rain orsomething.
And again, build quality isawesome, super cool.
They work great, they soundgreat.
But what I also really likeabout this kit is they.
They really they kind of tookwhat what I've seen in other
systems, and especially theDeity Theos, and they just

(01:12:14):
leveled it up Like the.
The interface and the way thatthe receivers work is
significantly better.
You've got everything you needin terms of XLR cables included
in adapters, 3.5 millimeters.
They even have these littlelabel, colorful label tags.
So like on the end of myreceiver, I have a green one on
one side and a blue on the other, which you can change really

(01:12:35):
easily.
They're not stickers, but youcan label then your transmitters
with those colors so you canknow like, okay, blue is channel
one, green is channel two.
They have, you know, all theROYGBIV colors there.
And then it also came with twotiny lavalier microphones in
this like really cool littlepurple case that I like a lot,
and these are, if I can show youthrough the cam here, but these
are like the smallest lavaliermicrophones.

(01:13:01):
They're so tiny.
So if you need to hide theseunder clothing, if you need to
like hide these underaccessories, or you just want
something that's small anddiscreet, these are awesome and
they sound great.
So I haven't made a video aboutthis or included this in
anything, but I've just beendoing my own little like initial
preliminary testing and stuffand it has been absolutely

(01:13:27):
awesome.
So I'm planning some more funstuff with this.
So the Saramonic K9 dualtransmitter wireless is pretty
cool for UHF.
That's something that we'vekind of come to expect with 2.4
gigahertz, like the DJI Mic 2,the Rode Wireless Pro, all those
we kind of expect, like you gettwo transmitters and a a
receiver, but uhf it's a littledifferent.
That's a totally differentecosystem, a totally different
workflow.
Um and dual transmitter uhfsystems are a little more rare,

(01:13:48):
a little harder to come by.
Um and ceremonic did an amazingjob with this one.
I absolutely love it and um,and I hope you like it too, or
hope you're interested in it too.
So that is.
Our gear of the week is theSaramonic K9.
I lost my keyboard to movethings along as we go into the

(01:14:09):
listener messages segment of theshow.
I had a couple of comments tohighlight and also a voice
message, so we're going to startwith the voice message.
This is from Chuck, and whatChuck is asking about are the
mounts that I use to putmicrophones on the wall.
So take it away, chuck.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, hi Tom, my name is Chuck.
I'm a voiceover talent, loveyour podcast channel.
I'm curious how you mount themicrophones on the wall.
It a great idea.
I've got quite a few micsmyself and instead of having
them on a shelf in a closet,it'd be kind of cool to uh mount
them and uh kind of show themoff in the studio.

(01:14:49):
I think I found a mount thatdoes it on amazon, but I'm not
quite sure.
So if you're able to enlightenme, that'd be great.
If you can do so on yourpodcast channel, that'd be
fantastic.
Or if you just want to on yourpodcast channel, that'd be
fantastic.
Or if you just want to email me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
All right, I cut the message off before Chuck shared
his email, because I don't knowthat he intended for that to be
shared with everybody.
Yeah, so this is a questionI've been getting a lot more and
more lately.
I have one, two, three, four,five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten, eleven At least 15microphones mounted on the walls

(01:15:23):
in here, which I love and Ithink is really cool.
So I'm gonna put two links inthe show notes for this.
One is a link to a video whereI show exactly how I do it, and
then the other is a link to themounts that I use, and the video
also has those links in it.
So what I'm using are justthese little like.
I think they're called the 5.8flange mounts.
They're essentially designed toput microphone mounts on, like
podiums is, I believe, whatthey're intended for.

(01:15:46):
So if you have a podium or alectern, you can kind of drill
this on here and then you canscrew like either a microphone
directly onto it or you canscrew like a mic stand onto it.
Because they're just 5.8 mountsbut they're very low profile,
which I like.
They each have three screws, soI make sure to either find a
stud in the wall or use reallystrong anchors, and that's,
that's basically it, so I'll putall those links in there.

(01:16:06):
I really, really like beingable to do this, because I think
I love the way microphones look, goes back to that.
Performance Performance is agenerous term in the third grade
play.
Microphones are very cool andthere's some really cool visual
ones, like I've got the King Beethat I mentioned earlier that
Doc Rock sent up there.
It's yellow and black and it'sgot this cool chrome and a cool
shock mount.
Look at the Lewitt behind meright here behind my head.

(01:16:29):
Over there on the wall We'vegot the original Worker Bee.
There's the Shure Super 55.
Like you know, they're kind oflike my guitars right.
Like I, a couple of years ago Ihung all my guitars on the wall
.
They used to just be on aguitar rack, which was very
compact and didn't take up a lotof space, but you couldn't
really see them.
I put them up on the wall andit's like I love just it's like

(01:16:50):
artwork.
I love staring at them becausethey're gorgeous, like sometimes
when I'm just hanging out here,I'm just staring at like,
looking at the colors and theshapes and the.
It goes back to like that.
You know those things as a as akid.
That kind of interest you anddraw your attention.
And so the microphones are thesame thing, like they're really
cool, they're really pretty,they're super, I don't know.
I love having them out.
It has been great.
The question I get and thecaveat that I'll put out there

(01:17:12):
is to do with dust, cause peopleask about that.
Sometimes, you know, dependingon where you live, but it is a
very real thing anywhere.
You do run the risk of gettingdust in your microphones if you
keep them.
Everything that's not mounted Ihave in this drawer behind me
here.
So I have more microphonesthere which it's sort of just a

(01:17:32):
whim which ones are mounted andwhich ones aren't.
Sometimes it's ease of use andaccessibility.
I pull them off the wall allthe time and use them.
So it's like every day I'mchanging them out.
It's just kind of random whichones I choose, but dust is a
thing to be aware of.
I just use.
I was using cans of compressedair but I got one of those
little.
It's like a electric, it's likeit almost looks like a mini

(01:17:52):
hair dryer but it's like anelectric blower.
So that way, instead of usingcans and cans and cans of
compressed air.
You just use that, or just, youknow, use a soft cloth and
cloth and dust them.
Definitely be aware of that,though, and especially which
kind of microphone it is.
Some microphones might might bemore like have open capsules
that are prone to dust, so youmight want to keep those in a
drawer or a case, versus otherones like a pod, mic or

(01:18:14):
something, especially with awindscreen on it.
It doesn't matter, you put itout, it'll be totally okay.
So that's my only caveat, butit is really fun.
It's one of the things Istarted doing a number of years
ago.
I got the idea from Daniel Batal, who's a YouTube coach, and he
has he was.
He posted a thing, I think, onTwitter way back when showing it
, and I thought it was reallycool, and I kind of took the

(01:18:36):
idea and did it a lot.
I did it 15 times at leastminimum.
We got some YouTube comments togo through, so thank you, chuck
, for that.
Also, your voice sounds awesome.
I can absolutely hear how youwould be a pro voice actor, a
career voice actor, let's jumpinto.
We got a couple of YouTubecomments.
There were more on the lastepisode, but I just wanted to
highlight a couple here, reallyfor the sake of time or anything

(01:18:59):
.
Oops, I didn't mean to movethat while I was recording the
first one's from Jeremy.
What's up, jeremy?
Who said you inspired me tolook into not so much the
YouTube channels that I havewhich are far too many, by the
way but also the domain names Iown.
I found out that I have 15domain names spread across three
registrars.
Sometimes I'll just pick adomain name just in case, but
the reality is, I think ifyou're limited with your domains

(01:19:19):
and channel name, you'll bemore consistent with your
content and it'll be easier forpeople to discover and remember
you.
So that's on the episode aboutwhat should you name your
channel?
And I'm exactly like Jeremy.
I'm a serial domain registerwhere I just like, if I have an
idea, I'm like I'm gonna getthis if it's available for
specific things.
You know, like, my YouTubechannel is my name.
That's important, like keepingthings consistent really does

(01:19:45):
help.
I like that the podcast has adifferent identity because it is
a different thing to me.
You know my wife Heather hasdifferent channels.
She has Heather just create.
Heather just play.
Heather just jump, like she has, you know, heather just blank.
It's kind of like her strategythere.
But you know, it's kind of theidea of one name per audience.
So if I wanted to do somethingtotally different that was not
really connected with like me asan individual, me in the audio

(01:20:10):
video world, that kind of thing,then maybe using a different
name or a different, you knowtype of branding wouldn't make
more sense.
And that's sort of what Jeremyis alluding to here, which is
very, very true and very, veryhelpful.
Next comment this is aninteresting one.
Oh, I don't want to skip that.
I accidentally went too far onmy little slideshow.
This is from Krom K, who saidsome thoughts, my thoughts.
Please read it like that andadopt anything If it suits you,

(01:20:31):
your goal and preferences.
I, like the disclaimer,appreciate that With the amount
of gear and unleashed potentialyou have available both in gear
and creative, I would haveexplored the potentials outside
of the comfort zone.
I remember back to the lastconference when you made a
portable SM7B.
You were shining, as I'm said,portable SM7B with some 3D
printed improvements.
Definitely something I want totake to NAP this year.

(01:20:52):
I really hope you find a way tokick yourself in the butt and
get Heather to help you.
Let's get enthusiastic.
Nothing but support and love.
I really like your videos.
Be sure to enjoy them yourself.
I do.
If you ever think that I'venever made videos, I don't enjoy
myself so like I hope that's.
I hope that's clear.
I make, which is why, also,sometimes there's a trendy thing
happening and then I make avideo.

(01:21:12):
That's you know.
Here's my three-year-oldcomputer.
I do always just make the videoI want to do.
I do always just make the videoI want to do.
And I really appreciate the pushfor for, you know, leaning into
the personality, the personalside of it, the unique things

(01:21:33):
you know, because we all havethings that we can only we can
do right and they're they'reuniquely us and it means a lot
to me that you would encourageme to do that more with myself,
which is something I want to do.
Tricky part there, because mybig thing whenever I talk about,
like my career as a contentcreator, is sustainability.
I want to be able to do this aslong as I can, and when you're,
when everything you're tryingto do is now something new, it

(01:21:55):
it becomes, like you, acompetition with yourself to
one-up yourself every time itcould be.
It doesn't always do that, butit could potentially do that,
which then leads to like adisconnect from your audience.
It leads to not sustainabilityin terms of your workflow.
It can lead to a lot of stress.
So I like to do that where itmakes sense.
I like to look for thoseopportunities more and explore
things a little differently.

(01:22:16):
And I have my second channeltoo, humbug 2, where you can
kind of see like I've beenplaying around figuring out how
to do bass covers on there and Ido like to try to find
different ways of approachingestablished things.
Like you know, like thewireless SM7B is a good example.
That's the most impracticalthing to do for, like you know,

(01:22:37):
person on the street styleinterviews, but it was really
fun and I liked it a lot and itlike it was also a cool
superpower because it kind ofimmediately disarmed people.
Even though it was like a giantmicrophone, the goofiness of it
like immediately made peoplefeel comfortable when you try to
talk to them.
So I love that and I want touse that more and I want to.
I definitely want to do morestuff like that.
I just want to make sure to doit in a way that's always fun

(01:22:58):
and sustainable, because I don'twant to lose the fun for things
that I do either.
I always want that to be cool.
So appreciate all the messages,appreciate all the support.
I hope my stories and all therambling here made sense.
I hope you're able to kind oftake some fun tidbits away from
this.
I hope to have some fun thingsto share with you next time in
the season finale.
And until then, if you want tosend a message to the show, you

(01:23:19):
can go to hi.
My name is Tomcom, leave avoice message.
You can always email Tom atenthusiasmprojectcom, or you can
click the fan mail link in theshow notes if you're listening
to the audio version, or justdrop a YouTube comment, because
that's the beauty of YouTube.
So, all that being said, I hopeyou have a safe, happy, healthy
fun, the fun rest of your day,rest of your week, rest of the
time until we see each otheragain.

(01:23:39):
Have a good one.

(01:24:09):
I'll see you next time.

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