July 18, 2022 • 32 mins
In this episode, we started talking about New York City Emergency Management releasing a video entitled Nuclear Preparedness PSA, how we happily celebrate the freedom to shorten our lifespan through new ways that recently became available to us, and how this is related to the fact that we all wear cotton t-shirts, the Disinformation Governance Board AKA Ministry of Truth and other “novelties” from 1984.
Nuclear Preparedness PSA (with captions)
Why Hemp Was Banned In 1937 - A Look At Hemp Prohibition History - Great Hemp USA
What makes hemp the perfect fabric for military uniforms?
Disinformation Governance Board - Wikipedia
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Taliy (00:00):
Who did this but it was a big one.
Alexey (00:03):
Did it actually air somewhere this ad for what to do
in case of nuclear attack?
Taliy (00:09):
Yeah, it's hilarious. So New York City recorded the
official video addressing thepopulation regarding what to do
in the situation where we'vebeen nuked. And it starts with
don't ask me who did this. Don'task me why. All you have to know
is that we got nuked. So run inthe shelter, eat plant based
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meat. Just kidding guys, wear amask, eat plant based meat. And
don't ask me why. And vote, ofcourse, vote.
Alexey (00:42):
And follow the media.
Taliy (00:43):
Follow the media and don't ask me why, just do it.
Alexey (00:47):
Funny enough. When we've been at the Cafe 50s in
LA, several months ago, there isa whole section of the wall,
because they have old postersand cutouts from the magazines
and newspapers. And there is awhole part of the wall that's
dedicated to this Cold War erapublications regarding what to
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do in case of nuclear attack.
Wow, I really didn't think wewouldn be living through another
round of this. Since this videowas not sanctioned by the
Disinformation Governance Board,it was not removed by this new
department of the HomelandSecurity, I guess that
something's cooking.
Taliy (01:28):
You know, since you brought up the 50's Cafe, one of
my favorite posters in there wasthe doctor that says, Yeah, most
doctors in America prefer tosmoke certain brand of
cigarettes. And that's the waythey were tricking people into
believing that smoking ishealthy - look, even doctors
smoke, like wow. Now we see thatnot much changed. Well, of
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course, cigarettes are not thatpopular anymore, which is a good
thing. But the same tricks work.
Alexey (01:57):
Oh, you know, it's only in America, I haven't seen that
much people smoking. But inEurope, man, like you can't
stand in the streets withoutsomebody passing by and smoking.
So smoking is still a thing.
Taliy (02:09):
So it's interesting because worldwide they say, oh,
Americans eating junk food anddon't care about the health. But
actually when it comes tosmoking, smoking is not only
considered to be unhealthy, itis just gross. And somehow it
became so uncool, unpopular. Andpart of it, I think was the
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legalization of weed here. Soweed became cool. And smoking
cigarettes became gross. InEurope since weed still banned,
like smoking cigarettes is theonly option, you gotta smoke
something
Alexey (02:45):
Well, smoking weed is also legalized here. So...
Taliy (02:50):
Not everywhere, though.
Alexey (02:51):
Not everywhere, but in most of the European countries,
I guess. Though, you won't smellthe weed as much here as you do
in the United States. Well,maybe it's only California,
because it's relatively new andpeople, overindulging, enjoying
their new gained freedoms.
Actually, this is a good topicto talk about that people feel
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that they're being freed, theygained this freedom to smoke
weed while they have beenremoved many others. So what's
the trade-off? You are now freeto ruin your health, even though
some people can tout themedicinal values. But these
medicinal virtues of certainplans, they are virtues when
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when you don't smoke them. Butthis is quite funny. So you can
do whatever you want, well, notwhatever you want. You can do
what the government says is nowallowed to your body. But you
cannot say anything that goesagainst the official narrative.
And there's been a lot ofbacklash, actually, recently. I
mean, it came to my attentionrecently that a lot of people
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were disturbed by this newlyformed Disinformation Governance
Board, which a lot of people arecalling the Ministry of Truth,
like in the "1984" novel byGeorge Orwell.
Taliy (04:11):
Wow, so this is official now, we have Ministry of Truth.
Alexey (04:15):
We've been watching a lot of videos Awaken with JP,
and he cuts like a knife throughall this crazy stuff that's
going on mostly in America, buthe has a lot of valid points.
And this really makes you think,are we that blind, that we so
happily accept freedoms thatallow us to shorten our
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lifespan, while not beingcontent with this propaganda of
reducing world population? Butwe are given the freedom to
reduce our lifespan ourselves,and we say yeah, we are free
now. Now we are truly free.
Well, but you cannot sayanything. We've seen a lot of
this lately. I cannot put thesethings together.
Taliy (04:59):
Yeah. So, interesting thing when I was talking to my
local fellow Americans here inthe US regarding legalizing
weed, their best argument wasthat well, how can you be
against that? Don't you see howbeneficial it is? Like, there's
so many benefits of it. And it'sso much healthier than this Big
Pharma medicine. You know,nobody was talking about the
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addiction, it's just now a fewyears in that we see how
addictive weed is and that itactually affects the brain
productivity, everything, makespeople less active socially, and
just changes the behavior andactually creates a strong
addiction, which originallywasn't the thing. The propaganda
narrative during the legalizewas that this is 100% safe and
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doesn't create addictionscompared to other drugs. And
when I'm asking the same people,why wouldn't we just make normal
traditional medicine,pharmaceutical things that
wouldn't have that many sideeffects? And this is something
that paradigm of thinking is noteven including right now, you
know, our way of thinking as asociety is weak, not because our
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way of thinking is weak, it'sbecause certain things are not
even considered in ourperception of the reality as
possibilities. So we think thatthe only choice we can make is
between just in this case, weedand Big Pharma, with terrible
side effects. In this case,actually, both of them have bad
side effects. And we do notconsider the way that we can
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reorganize the way our societyexists into the way where it
produces medical andpharmaceutical products that are
healthy, that don't have sideeffects, and that actually
benefit your health and createeconomical models in which that
would make sense because rightnow, the biggest problem is that
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your health has no value. It'sall about money, money, money,
they were saying also one of thebenefits of the weed legalizing,
it's gonna create so many newjobs, so many places, and so
many people took so much moneyand just invested into the small
farms, and most of them wentbankrupt. And all of it has been
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bought by Big Pharma, can youimagine this? Like, this is the
point where it becomesridiculous, because whatever was
pointed to break this system togo against this system, later,
within the current society welive in was obtained by the very
same system. So you know, theydon't care about putting that
much money or whatever, intoproduction of traditional
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cigarettes, because Europeansgonna buy it anyway, here in the
local market, the very samepeople gonna push you stuff that
you considered yourself, you itwas your drug of choice, you
said, this is my healthy wayof... Okay, they're gonna make
it healthy. But they're notgoing to disclose that the ways
that they raise it right now isnot that organic way that
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everybody was thinking, Oh, it'sorganic, it's a completely
different product, it's beenadjusted on gene level, it's
been filled with pesticides,it's been done like whatever to
it. So it would be the mostefficient but not the healthiest
product. And by the way, to getthe benefits of this product,
you don't have to, you don'thave to get high, this could be
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a totally normalized formulaused in traditional way. But
somehow, in twisted reality thatwe live in, we've been only
given a choice between two badoptions. And there is no way to
battle and win against thesystem without having a vision
of a healthy system, likereally, really healthy system,
what is the healthy economy?
What is the economic model forpharmaceutical companies to
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thrive, but not being interestedin producing the more diseases
at the same time, becausewithout those, they're not going
to be able to sell more. So it'sup to us to people to create
these kinds of models. Andthat's where I think one of the
sides effects of all thesethings we consume as it makes
our brain operate in theexisting reality in the existing
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boundaries of the reality, notan actual reality, but the very
narrow boundaries. And theseboundaries getting smaller they
shrinking down with new toolsbeing introduced, like the
Ministry of Truth in the US.
Guys, can you imagine Orwell's1984 becomes reality faster than
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anyone could expect? We havethis frickin governmental thing
that's gonna officially saywhat's good information like
literally not truthfulinformation but good for you to
consume. And what is badinformation. Bad information is
not doesn't mean it's nottruthful information it means
it's an information which mightbe considered not the best for
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you to even process with yourbrain. Don't think about it,
it's bad. But bad for who? Badfor those who have power. And
guys, when I say we have tobuild a society in which one
human has no power over anotherhuman, we should also think like
what power means. Power is, theword power, means to have
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ability to push your will onother people against their will.
So what they do here, theypushing their will to make us
think certain way, consumecertain information against our
will, because we empowered them.
Crazy right?
Alexey (10:29):
Now, there is so much to talk about what you just
said, even if you consider whata lot of people welcomed as a
newly gained freedom. If youlook at everything that's being
produced by the Big Food and BigPharma, well, we have everything
that reduces the bandwidth ofperception of this reality of
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people, because with everythingbad for your health, no wonder
that one of the most expensive,let's say departments in every
state is the Health Department,a lot of money is being
allocated to manage somehow, allthe diseases. There's a lot of
money involved. And we've talkedabout how the system rolls,
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right? You have to provide newclients so that there's an
exponential growth, and how doyou make an exponential amount
of sick people? Well, you givethem the freedom to consume
different things that you know,are bad for them, but they want
it and so you forbid this forsome time, you vilify it. And
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you know, the demonization ofweed came into place. It was the
cotton lobby at the beginning ofthe 20th century, I guess. But
we we can look this up. A wholeadvertisement campaign that was
targeting parents that said,look, smoking weed is the devil.
And we're not saying thatconsuming any kind of drugs is
good. But it's not only consumedfor smoking, but there's a lot
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of medicinal use, tinctures andoils. But there's also another
part of this plant that's beingused to make clothes, to make
fabrics. And these fabrics, theyhave antimicrobial properties.
And they last 10 times more anddo not require as much water
because we all know that cottonproduction uses a lot of water,
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you need a lot of water to makethese cotton T-shirts. But why
don't we have other types offabrics? Well, it's because at
some point in time, there wasthis war, war on cannabis on the
plant itself, because it wasused to make better clothing,
better, long lasting, and onlynow we have some outlier
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companies that produce T-shirtsand shirts with merino wool, for
example. And it is possible, youdon't stink because they have
antimicrobial properties. Andthey are at least 10 times more
durable than cotton. I mean,when you go back and look at all
these things, you will be amazedat how the perception of the
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population was manipulatedthroughout all these centuries,
I guess. Well, we can talk onlyabout the last decades from what
we personally know. And we cannow tell that oh, yeah, this was
something that we didn'tunderstand at the time. But in
the hindsight, yeah, right now,we can say that this was a
manipulation. I think we need togrow up and start seeing the
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manipulations as they occurright now today, and make our
own research. Yes, make your owninvestigation. We've talked
about this several timesalready. Even if it's not
regarded as a great thing. Why?
Because people who think, who dotheir own research, they are
dangerous. Governments, theydon't like dangerous people,
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people who think basically,because everything is targeted
to make you physically weak andmentally weak, as well, and
restrict access to education,which by the way, is one of the
most important things indevelopment of a personality of
any human being. This is whatseparates, defines us, let's
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say, as professionals, as peoplewho... the whole society is the
sum of all the individualscomposing this society. If we
provide good quality educationto everyone, we will gain as a
society in general because wewill have educated people. Why
don't we do that? If we judge bythe cost of good quality
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education, this is a biglimiting factor for people to
access education. So we arelosing as a society. Why don't
look at this from a perspectivethat we will all live better?
Well, I guess we have to rollback a little bit and see what
is happening around us.
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Everything proves that no one isinterested In you getting
smarter, your kids gettingsmarter and improving the lives
because when they get smart,well, they will start thinking
by themselves. And this is notwhat the government wants.
Taliy (15:11):
Yeah! What a great example with cannabis being
banned as a result of cottonwars, where cotton production
was definitely losing tocannabis and they had to lobby,
they had to use those who obtainpower from us - politicians, to
make a law which bans certainproducts for the benefit of
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certain people. And of course,the informational campaign to
convince the public opinion thatthis is bad, this has to be done
like that was just part of it.
So media were used to manipulatepublic opinion, as we always
know, in the history, it's quiterepetitive. Another great
example is why America is theonly nation in the world that
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consumes corn syrup, includingstuff like high fructose corn
syrup, which guaranteed to givecancer to so many people. And
maybe back in the day in the 60swhere there was Caribbean
crisis, right, the Americangovernment decided to block Cuba
economically and therefore notto buy sugar, the cane sugar
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from Cuba, instead of thatreplace it in most of its
products with corn syrup,because at that time, that was
the option that created thewhole huge industry of corn
syrup production here in the US.
And right now the world haschanged. We have so many sources
of sugar, we could easilyreplace this corn syrup, but no
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we don't. We still consume itfor some reason. And the whole
huge industry with multiple 10sof 1000s people employed in
there, working. And it is theproblem in the consumerist
format to create healthyproducts because the whole
system operates like that. Andthink about it like no one ever
benefited, except for this verysmall group of people who
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produce corn syrup, no onebenefited from this scheme, not
the people of the US, not thepeople of Cuba, of course,
because they they stayed withtheir sugar and this political
regime and they still have it.
And we have the opposite. Andthe way the two regimes cannot
find the common language, theones who will take the hit are
just regular people in bothcountries. And when you talk to
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any person from anywhere in theworld, as soon as they get their
feet on American soil, we acceptthem. We know they're same as
us, same Americans. But why weallow ourselves to be pushed
this idea that they are enemies,while they're across the border,
like we can nuke them, we canliterally nuke their country
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with all the people just becausewe don't like their government,
we can nuke their countries withall the casualties. And that
will be for a greater good. Butthe very same people as soon as
they crossed the border and geton American soil, we give them
asylum, citizenship and willsay, oh, great people, here they
are. Like, don't you see, it'ssuch a huge manipulation with
our consciousness as well,because all people are saying,
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and the way how power twists ourbrain is also the same. There
was this brilliant study of ascientist who studied that being
in power from three to nineyears will change your brain
functions forever, you're notgoing to be the same person
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anymore, just because beingthere makes you super selfish
and super concentrated, they geton a physical level. And that's
why the healthiest thingpossibly we could make is to
create a system in which all ofus are responsible for the
outcome of our decisions. AsAlexey said, yeah, we all like
our global amount of knowledge,our global IQ, the IQ of our
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humanity consists of IQ of eachindividual in this humanity. And
you know, just as a body, ourwhole organism wouldn't benefit
if certain cells would considerthemselves better than the
others and would consumeeverything. In our body we
consider it to be cancer, weconsider it to be an enemy of
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our body. But in our society,those who take away most of the
goods, most of the products,most of everything, we consider
them successful cells, verysuccessful cells, and we have
this illusion in our mind thatwe can become one of those
cells, we can become the cancerof our society. This creates a
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very twisted reality in ourbrains where nobody benefit but
people start using their wealthfor twisted things like pushing
ideas, like freedom of speech isnot the basic value anymore. We
can easily deplatform anyonewhose voice we don't like and
we're going to create laws likethis is where it comes to
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lobbying and this is where, ifat first something goes against
the law, then we can easilychange the law, introduce the
governmental agency, which isgoing to regulate it legally. So
everything seems right on thepaper, but it doesn't feel
right. And that gives us thesense of freedom that we all
aspire to. If somebody's opinionis misleading, the society has
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to be educated enough todistinguish it and make a
conclusion. You know, the bestform of journalism is when you
present the facts, and it's upto the person to make its own
conclusions. But right now, whenI open the articles from most of
the newspapers, they start witha conclusion, they start with a
conclusion, they pushing theirpolitical narrative, and then
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they backing up it with a fewfacts that were cherry picked
out of the whole amount offacts, they cherry pick facts to
back up their point, thiscreates a very distrustful and
toxic environment in which eachside can cherry pick the facts
that they like, and ignoreeverything else and create
decisions based on the emotions.
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It's impossible to create asustainable future in society
where half of cells of the bodyconsiders the other half of the
body as enemies, what if yourleft arm is going to consider
your right arm, a bad arm,because some cells in your brain
who were overtaken by cancer-ishideas, decided to use your
resources certain way. It's notgonna work, it's not gonna be a
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sustainable model of the future.
There are groups of people whosay that you're not going to own
anything and be happy. Imagineif your brain cells gonna say,
Okay, we're gonna take all theoxygen and you're not gonna have
any oxygen, but you're stillgonna be happy. It doesn't work
like that, I think the future isbehind this idea of realizing
that we are all one. And thatdoesn't mean that we have to
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give away anything, any materialgoods, except for our shackles,
really. giving away the shacklesof our mind means to finally
build a society in which powerbelongs to all people equally.
And that means that no one canuse their power to push their
will upon other people againsttheir will. Because the amount
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of power is equal for eachindividual of the society,
Alexey (22:19):
You know, when you talked about brain taking all
the energy, all the oxygen, itis funny, because let's imagine
that you are very smart, you arethe brain, you consider yourself
the brain of the society.
Imagine if you restrict theenergy supply the oxygen, the
blood flow, to your feet, howfar we will go? How far will we
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go without your feet? I mean,maybe just the soles of your
feet, let's take this example.
You will be crawling, no matterhow smart you are, you will not
run anyway if your feet, I'm noteven talking about legs, even if
your feet don't work. And thesame is happening at the
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societal level. As we see,obviously, there are different
power requirements for differentparts of the brain, we
understand that the brain andthe eyes, they consume the most
of energy, it doesn't mean thatother parts of your body are not
receiving adequate supply of allthe required energy or oxygen or
what have you for thefunctioning. You know, sometimes
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there are these strange thingsthat are happening because we
started with the Ministry ofTruth. But this article from LA
Times that you sent me recentlytalking about the solar panels
that are not recyclable. Andthis is a harm. This is exactly
what we've been talking aboutduring the forum. It got me
thinking, guys, what ishappening, I think we can
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consider LA Times like a majornews outlet, right? A part of
the mass media at least in thegreater LA area. They are
talking about this openly. I wasthinking to myself, wow, these
guys, either they have receivedthe green light to talk about
it, or they just somehowaccidentally dropped it dropped
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this article saying that guys,we don't know what to do. And
these are highly toxic elementsinside the panels. We don't know
what to do with them. I don'tknow how to explain these
things. You know, because thereis a lot of contradicting
information. People say youshould drive electric cars but
now there is also news fromCalifornia where people are
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being told not to charge theirelectric car not to overload the
system. How do people find theirway in all these contradiction?
Anywhere you go, we are beingtold, okay, the gas prices are
high, you should buy electricvehicles, but people who
complain about the high gasprices they cannot afford
electric vehicles. Otherwise,they will not be complaining
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about the high gas prices. Ihave this impression that you're
in some kind of mental asylumand different voices coming from
all over saying absolutelycontradicting information, there
is this Ministry of Truth thatwill tell what is true and what
isn't when we know that truth isonly one, there cannot be
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different declinations of truthfor different layers of
population or different regionsof the planet. But luckily
enough, we still have socialmedia. But when you see Donald
Trump banned from Twitter,Jordan Peterson being banned
from Twitter, and a lot of guysapparently were also banned or
without possibility to appeal.
There's the Babylon Bee account,guys are comedians, of course,
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they touch upon very hot topicsin the news. But if you can not
say anything, and there isalready an organ that will tell
everyone what is allowed andwhat is not, what is true and
what isn't. Maybe they're usingthe 1984 as a manual, there was
also this video with JP who evenprinted aT-shirt "Make 1984
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fiction again." Today, we are alittle bit all over the place
with different facts and stuff.
But it's just it's there's somuch information that you don't
even know where to start and howto process it. And I think that
actually this is this issomething that is being done by
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choice that when people havethis constant stream of
information that not onlycontradicts, I mean, one outlet
contradicts another. But also,there are different opinions
being pushed through socialmedia channels, people, they
just switch off, as we said, Iwill just turn off everything
and go flip burgers in mybackyard. And the more we look
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at these events that arehappening everywhere, the more I
see that this is being donepurposefully. It's not something
that can be I mean, you can notmake this thing up. You know,
it's really something that evenif you want it without a
concerted effort, this is notpossible. I mean, this is my
opinion.
Taliy (27:02):
Yeah, Lex, you know, when I'm seeing this whole surreal
fiction-like DisinformationGovernance Board idea, it makes
me think that yeah, first ofall, 1984 by Orwell was not a
guidance, it was a fiction book,and not supposed to take it
literally and execute whateverwas mentioned in there. It's not
wasn't meant to be like that itwas supposed to be a satire,
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which is apparently not aconcept that Twitter CEOs can
understand that there is suchthing as satire. And when you
ban a satire profile, you justmake it more popular because
people are attracted to that.
But also, I'm seeing theintroduction of such things as
Disinformation Governance Boardas a backlash to the Overton
windows of truth, when onDecember 4th, 2021, at the
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"Global Crisis. Time for theTruth" conference, people from
all over the world presentedfacts that the whole CO2 green
agenda is just a huge moneymaking scheme and presented all
the facts including how thesolar panels are just poisoning
our lands, how the plasticblades from the wind turbines
are just poisoning the very samelandfills. There are no
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technologies to recycle them.
This is a huge economicaldamage, because nobody is even
considering the money it coststo produce them and the amount
of fossil fuels that goes intoit. And the amount of damage
that is being done to ournature, it's just a huge scheme
that is super dangerous for usas a society because it also
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jeopardizes the way we obtainour main resource energy in the
time of the biggest climaticchallenges of current
civilization. This idea was justshocking, because it was for the
first time something like thiswas voiced and to even expect
that LA Times within only alittle bit over half a year is
going to present the very samefacts in a mainstream media all
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over US, for the people to seethat the panels are really
damaged in our environment, thatthey're not healthy. Maybe as
soon they're going to get to theeconomical side of it and show
that this whole green energyscheme is not working for the
benefit of the society. And thenit's counterproductive, although
it can be used in places likeSahara to provide energy for the
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vertical farms where we can.
There are cases for eachtechnology, there are specific
cases, but we cannot expect thatwe're gonna cover the whole
California and Nevada desertwith solar panels and it's going
to look like the Blade Runnermovie. And when they did it,
they covered the wholeCalifornia and it looks like do
you really want to live likethat? Do you think that that is
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like what's happened to thepopulation of species living
over ther like nobody's evencares about it. There are things
that are not being considered.
And you know, again, becauseit's not a part of our
perception of the reality. It'sbeyond those borders that were
set by the so calledDisnformation Governance Board
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even before it was officiallyintroduced, we don't think about
those things. And when peoplevoice the truth, they put this
information into some energyfield we have on our planet,
people start waking up tocertain way of thinking, This
fact is one of them. But the NewYork Times very soon, just
within a month after the verysame conference made an article
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in which they were, for thefirst time in the history of
humanity, taking the very samefacts Antarctica is actually
only melting on one side, theice is melting from the bottom
up. So it's not from the CO2,which would apparently do it
from the top, but it's meltingfrom the bottom. When we start
voicing the truth at themultiple social media platforms
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around the world. It createsthis voice that's being heard by
people and it affects thesociety. The thing is that we
see this backlash and what'sgonna be the outcome we already
see articles, The Hill presentedit as Orwellian looking, surreal
laws. The Washington Postcriticizing it. Washington Post
owned by Bezos himself.
Something is changing. Yeah, wedefinitely don't know how it's
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gonna go because it all dependson the people perception,
something has changed for goodin our society, and there is no
way back. It's gonna go one wayor another. But it's going to
change our society for good.
Who did this but it was a big one.
Alexey (00:03):
Did it actually air somewhere this ad for what to do
in case of nuclear attack?
Taliy (00:09):
Yeah, it's hilarious. So New York City recorded the
official video addressing thepopulation regarding what to do
in the situation where we'vebeen nuked. And it starts with
don't ask me who did this. Don'task me why. All you have to know
is that we got nuked. So run inthe shelter, eat plant based
(00:31):
meat. Just kidding guys, wear amask, eat plant based meat. And
don't ask me why. And vote, ofcourse, vote.
Alexey (00:42):
And follow the media.
Taliy (00:43):
Follow the media and don't ask me why, just do it.
Alexey (00:47):
Funny enough. When we've been at the Cafe 50s in
LA, several months ago, there isa whole section of the wall,
because they have old postersand cutouts from the magazines
and newspapers. And there is awhole part of the wall that's
dedicated to this Cold War erapublications regarding what to
(01:08):
do in case of nuclear attack.
Wow, I really didn't think wewouldn be living through another
round of this. Since this videowas not sanctioned by the
Disinformation Governance Board,it was not removed by this new
department of the HomelandSecurity, I guess that
something's cooking.
Taliy (01:28):
You know, since you brought up the 50's Cafe, one of
my favorite posters in there wasthe doctor that says, Yeah, most
doctors in America prefer tosmoke certain brand of
cigarettes. And that's the waythey were tricking people into
believing that smoking ishealthy - look, even doctors
smoke, like wow. Now we see thatnot much changed. Well, of
(01:51):
course, cigarettes are not thatpopular anymore, which is a good
thing. But the same tricks work.
Alexey (01:57):
Oh, you know, it's only in America, I haven't seen that
much people smoking. But inEurope, man, like you can't
stand in the streets withoutsomebody passing by and smoking.
So smoking is still a thing.
Taliy (02:09):
So it's interesting because worldwide they say, oh,
Americans eating junk food anddon't care about the health. But
actually when it comes tosmoking, smoking is not only
considered to be unhealthy, itis just gross. And somehow it
became so uncool, unpopular. Andpart of it, I think was the
(02:31):
legalization of weed here. Soweed became cool. And smoking
cigarettes became gross. InEurope since weed still banned,
like smoking cigarettes is theonly option, you gotta smoke
something
Alexey (02:45):
Well, smoking weed is also legalized here. So...
Taliy (02:50):
Not everywhere, though.
Alexey (02:51):
Not everywhere, but in most of the European countries,
I guess. Though, you won't smellthe weed as much here as you do
in the United States. Well,maybe it's only California,
because it's relatively new andpeople, overindulging, enjoying
their new gained freedoms.
Actually, this is a good topicto talk about that people feel
(03:12):
that they're being freed, theygained this freedom to smoke
weed while they have beenremoved many others. So what's
the trade-off? You are now freeto ruin your health, even though
some people can tout themedicinal values. But these
medicinal virtues of certainplans, they are virtues when
(03:32):
when you don't smoke them. Butthis is quite funny. So you can
do whatever you want, well, notwhatever you want. You can do
what the government says is nowallowed to your body. But you
cannot say anything that goesagainst the official narrative.
And there's been a lot ofbacklash, actually, recently. I
mean, it came to my attentionrecently that a lot of people
(03:56):
were disturbed by this newlyformed Disinformation Governance
Board, which a lot of people arecalling the Ministry of Truth,
like in the "1984" novel byGeorge Orwell.
Taliy (04:11):
Wow, so this is official now, we have Ministry of Truth.
Alexey (04:15):
We've been watching a lot of videos Awaken with JP,
and he cuts like a knife throughall this crazy stuff that's
going on mostly in America, buthe has a lot of valid points.
And this really makes you think,are we that blind, that we so
happily accept freedoms thatallow us to shorten our
(04:36):
lifespan, while not beingcontent with this propaganda of
reducing world population? Butwe are given the freedom to
reduce our lifespan ourselves,and we say yeah, we are free
now. Now we are truly free.
Well, but you cannot sayanything. We've seen a lot of
this lately. I cannot put thesethings together.
Taliy (04:59):
Yeah. So, interesting thing when I was talking to my
local fellow Americans here inthe US regarding legalizing
weed, their best argument wasthat well, how can you be
against that? Don't you see howbeneficial it is? Like, there's
so many benefits of it. And it'sso much healthier than this Big
Pharma medicine. You know,nobody was talking about the
(05:20):
addiction, it's just now a fewyears in that we see how
addictive weed is and that itactually affects the brain
productivity, everything, makespeople less active socially, and
just changes the behavior andactually creates a strong
addiction, which originallywasn't the thing. The propaganda
narrative during the legalizewas that this is 100% safe and
(05:45):
doesn't create addictionscompared to other drugs. And
when I'm asking the same people,why wouldn't we just make normal
traditional medicine,pharmaceutical things that
wouldn't have that many sideeffects? And this is something
that paradigm of thinking is noteven including right now, you
know, our way of thinking as asociety is weak, not because our
(06:08):
way of thinking is weak, it'sbecause certain things are not
even considered in ourperception of the reality as
possibilities. So we think thatthe only choice we can make is
between just in this case, weedand Big Pharma, with terrible
side effects. In this case,actually, both of them have bad
side effects. And we do notconsider the way that we can
(06:31):
reorganize the way our societyexists into the way where it
produces medical andpharmaceutical products that are
healthy, that don't have sideeffects, and that actually
benefit your health and createeconomical models in which that
would make sense because rightnow, the biggest problem is that
(06:52):
your health has no value. It'sall about money, money, money,
they were saying also one of thebenefits of the weed legalizing,
it's gonna create so many newjobs, so many places, and so
many people took so much moneyand just invested into the small
farms, and most of them wentbankrupt. And all of it has been
(07:14):
bought by Big Pharma, can youimagine this? Like, this is the
point where it becomesridiculous, because whatever was
pointed to break this system togo against this system, later,
within the current society welive in was obtained by the very
same system. So you know, theydon't care about putting that
much money or whatever, intoproduction of traditional
(07:36):
cigarettes, because Europeansgonna buy it anyway, here in the
local market, the very samepeople gonna push you stuff that
you considered yourself, you itwas your drug of choice, you
said, this is my healthy wayof... Okay, they're gonna make
it healthy. But they're notgoing to disclose that the ways
that they raise it right now isnot that organic way that
(07:57):
everybody was thinking, Oh, it'sorganic, it's a completely
different product, it's beenadjusted on gene level, it's
been filled with pesticides,it's been done like whatever to
it. So it would be the mostefficient but not the healthiest
product. And by the way, to getthe benefits of this product,
you don't have to, you don'thave to get high, this could be
(08:20):
a totally normalized formulaused in traditional way. But
somehow, in twisted reality thatwe live in, we've been only
given a choice between two badoptions. And there is no way to
battle and win against thesystem without having a vision
of a healthy system, likereally, really healthy system,
what is the healthy economy?
What is the economic model forpharmaceutical companies to
(08:42):
thrive, but not being interestedin producing the more diseases
at the same time, becausewithout those, they're not going
to be able to sell more. So it'sup to us to people to create
these kinds of models. Andthat's where I think one of the
sides effects of all thesethings we consume as it makes
our brain operate in theexisting reality in the existing
(09:04):
boundaries of the reality, notan actual reality, but the very
narrow boundaries. And theseboundaries getting smaller they
shrinking down with new toolsbeing introduced, like the
Ministry of Truth in the US.
Guys, can you imagine Orwell's1984 becomes reality faster than
(09:27):
anyone could expect? We havethis frickin governmental thing
that's gonna officially saywhat's good information like
literally not truthfulinformation but good for you to
consume. And what is badinformation. Bad information is
not doesn't mean it's nottruthful information it means
it's an information which mightbe considered not the best for
(09:50):
you to even process with yourbrain. Don't think about it,
it's bad. But bad for who? Badfor those who have power. And
guys, when I say we have tobuild a society in which one
human has no power over anotherhuman, we should also think like
what power means. Power is, theword power, means to have
(10:12):
ability to push your will onother people against their will.
So what they do here, theypushing their will to make us
think certain way, consumecertain information against our
will, because we empowered them.
Crazy right?
Alexey (10:29):
Now, there is so much to talk about what you just
said, even if you consider whata lot of people welcomed as a
newly gained freedom. If youlook at everything that's being
produced by the Big Food and BigPharma, well, we have everything
that reduces the bandwidth ofperception of this reality of
(10:50):
people, because with everythingbad for your health, no wonder
that one of the most expensive,let's say departments in every
state is the Health Department,a lot of money is being
allocated to manage somehow, allthe diseases. There's a lot of
money involved. And we've talkedabout how the system rolls,
(11:12):
right? You have to provide newclients so that there's an
exponential growth, and how doyou make an exponential amount
of sick people? Well, you givethem the freedom to consume
different things that you know,are bad for them, but they want
it and so you forbid this forsome time, you vilify it. And
(11:35):
you know, the demonization ofweed came into place. It was the
cotton lobby at the beginning ofthe 20th century, I guess. But
we we can look this up. A wholeadvertisement campaign that was
targeting parents that said,look, smoking weed is the devil.
And we're not saying thatconsuming any kind of drugs is
good. But it's not only consumedfor smoking, but there's a lot
(11:58):
of medicinal use, tinctures andoils. But there's also another
part of this plant that's beingused to make clothes, to make
fabrics. And these fabrics, theyhave antimicrobial properties.
And they last 10 times more anddo not require as much water
because we all know that cottonproduction uses a lot of water,
(12:21):
you need a lot of water to makethese cotton T-shirts. But why
don't we have other types offabrics? Well, it's because at
some point in time, there wasthis war, war on cannabis on the
plant itself, because it wasused to make better clothing,
better, long lasting, and onlynow we have some outlier
(12:43):
companies that produce T-shirtsand shirts with merino wool, for
example. And it is possible, youdon't stink because they have
antimicrobial properties. Andthey are at least 10 times more
durable than cotton. I mean,when you go back and look at all
these things, you will be amazedat how the perception of the
(13:08):
population was manipulatedthroughout all these centuries,
I guess. Well, we can talk onlyabout the last decades from what
we personally know. And we cannow tell that oh, yeah, this was
something that we didn'tunderstand at the time. But in
the hindsight, yeah, right now,we can say that this was a
manipulation. I think we need togrow up and start seeing the
(13:31):
manipulations as they occurright now today, and make our
own research. Yes, make your owninvestigation. We've talked
about this several timesalready. Even if it's not
regarded as a great thing. Why?
Because people who think, who dotheir own research, they are
dangerous. Governments, theydon't like dangerous people,
(13:53):
people who think basically,because everything is targeted
to make you physically weak andmentally weak, as well, and
restrict access to education,which by the way, is one of the
most important things indevelopment of a personality of
any human being. This is whatseparates, defines us, let's
(14:13):
say, as professionals, as peoplewho... the whole society is the
sum of all the individualscomposing this society. If we
provide good quality educationto everyone, we will gain as a
society in general because wewill have educated people. Why
don't we do that? If we judge bythe cost of good quality
(14:37):
education, this is a biglimiting factor for people to
access education. So we arelosing as a society. Why don't
look at this from a perspectivethat we will all live better?
Well, I guess we have to rollback a little bit and see what
is happening around us.
(14:57):
Everything proves that no one isinterested In you getting
smarter, your kids gettingsmarter and improving the lives
because when they get smart,well, they will start thinking
by themselves. And this is notwhat the government wants.
Taliy (15:11):
Yeah! What a great example with cannabis being
banned as a result of cottonwars, where cotton production
was definitely losing tocannabis and they had to lobby,
they had to use those who obtainpower from us - politicians, to
make a law which bans certainproducts for the benefit of
(15:32):
certain people. And of course,the informational campaign to
convince the public opinion thatthis is bad, this has to be done
like that was just part of it.
So media were used to manipulatepublic opinion, as we always
know, in the history, it's quiterepetitive. Another great
example is why America is theonly nation in the world that
(15:52):
consumes corn syrup, includingstuff like high fructose corn
syrup, which guaranteed to givecancer to so many people. And
maybe back in the day in the 60swhere there was Caribbean
crisis, right, the Americangovernment decided to block Cuba
economically and therefore notto buy sugar, the cane sugar
(16:14):
from Cuba, instead of thatreplace it in most of its
products with corn syrup,because at that time, that was
the option that created thewhole huge industry of corn
syrup production here in the US.
And right now the world haschanged. We have so many sources
of sugar, we could easilyreplace this corn syrup, but no
(16:37):
we don't. We still consume itfor some reason. And the whole
huge industry with multiple 10sof 1000s people employed in
there, working. And it is theproblem in the consumerist
format to create healthyproducts because the whole
system operates like that. Andthink about it like no one ever
benefited, except for this verysmall group of people who
(17:00):
produce corn syrup, no onebenefited from this scheme, not
the people of the US, not thepeople of Cuba, of course,
because they they stayed withtheir sugar and this political
regime and they still have it.
And we have the opposite. Andthe way the two regimes cannot
find the common language, theones who will take the hit are
just regular people in bothcountries. And when you talk to
(17:23):
any person from anywhere in theworld, as soon as they get their
feet on American soil, we acceptthem. We know they're same as
us, same Americans. But why weallow ourselves to be pushed
this idea that they are enemies,while they're across the border,
like we can nuke them, we canliterally nuke their country
(17:44):
with all the people just becausewe don't like their government,
we can nuke their countries withall the casualties. And that
will be for a greater good. Butthe very same people as soon as
they crossed the border and geton American soil, we give them
asylum, citizenship and willsay, oh, great people, here they
are. Like, don't you see, it'ssuch a huge manipulation with
our consciousness as well,because all people are saying,
(18:07):
and the way how power twists ourbrain is also the same. There
was this brilliant study of ascientist who studied that being
in power from three to nineyears will change your brain
functions forever, you're notgoing to be the same person
(18:28):
anymore, just because beingthere makes you super selfish
and super concentrated, they geton a physical level. And that's
why the healthiest thingpossibly we could make is to
create a system in which all ofus are responsible for the
outcome of our decisions. AsAlexey said, yeah, we all like
our global amount of knowledge,our global IQ, the IQ of our
(18:52):
humanity consists of IQ of eachindividual in this humanity. And
you know, just as a body, ourwhole organism wouldn't benefit
if certain cells would considerthemselves better than the
others and would consumeeverything. In our body we
consider it to be cancer, weconsider it to be an enemy of
(19:13):
our body. But in our society,those who take away most of the
goods, most of the products,most of everything, we consider
them successful cells, verysuccessful cells, and we have
this illusion in our mind thatwe can become one of those
cells, we can become the cancerof our society. This creates a
(19:34):
very twisted reality in ourbrains where nobody benefit but
people start using their wealthfor twisted things like pushing
ideas, like freedom of speech isnot the basic value anymore. We
can easily deplatform anyonewhose voice we don't like and
we're going to create laws likethis is where it comes to
(19:57):
lobbying and this is where, ifat first something goes against
the law, then we can easilychange the law, introduce the
governmental agency, which isgoing to regulate it legally. So
everything seems right on thepaper, but it doesn't feel
right. And that gives us thesense of freedom that we all
aspire to. If somebody's opinionis misleading, the society has
(20:19):
to be educated enough todistinguish it and make a
conclusion. You know, the bestform of journalism is when you
present the facts, and it's upto the person to make its own
conclusions. But right now, whenI open the articles from most of
the newspapers, they start witha conclusion, they start with a
conclusion, they pushing theirpolitical narrative, and then
(20:43):
they backing up it with a fewfacts that were cherry picked
out of the whole amount offacts, they cherry pick facts to
back up their point, thiscreates a very distrustful and
toxic environment in which eachside can cherry pick the facts
that they like, and ignoreeverything else and create
decisions based on the emotions.
(21:07):
It's impossible to create asustainable future in society
where half of cells of the bodyconsiders the other half of the
body as enemies, what if yourleft arm is going to consider
your right arm, a bad arm,because some cells in your brain
who were overtaken by cancer-ishideas, decided to use your
resources certain way. It's notgonna work, it's not gonna be a
(21:30):
sustainable model of the future.
There are groups of people whosay that you're not going to own
anything and be happy. Imagineif your brain cells gonna say,
Okay, we're gonna take all theoxygen and you're not gonna have
any oxygen, but you're stillgonna be happy. It doesn't work
like that, I think the future isbehind this idea of realizing
that we are all one. And thatdoesn't mean that we have to
(21:51):
give away anything, any materialgoods, except for our shackles,
really. giving away the shacklesof our mind means to finally
build a society in which powerbelongs to all people equally.
And that means that no one canuse their power to push their
will upon other people againsttheir will. Because the amount
(22:13):
of power is equal for eachindividual of the society,
Alexey (22:19):
You know, when you talked about brain taking all
the energy, all the oxygen, itis funny, because let's imagine
that you are very smart, you arethe brain, you consider yourself
the brain of the society.
Imagine if you restrict theenergy supply the oxygen, the
blood flow, to your feet, howfar we will go? How far will we
(22:39):
go without your feet? I mean,maybe just the soles of your
feet, let's take this example.
You will be crawling, no matterhow smart you are, you will not
run anyway if your feet, I'm noteven talking about legs, even if
your feet don't work. And thesame is happening at the
(23:02):
societal level. As we see,obviously, there are different
power requirements for differentparts of the brain, we
understand that the brain andthe eyes, they consume the most
of energy, it doesn't mean thatother parts of your body are not
receiving adequate supply of allthe required energy or oxygen or
what have you for thefunctioning. You know, sometimes
(23:24):
there are these strange thingsthat are happening because we
started with the Ministry ofTruth. But this article from LA
Times that you sent me recentlytalking about the solar panels
that are not recyclable. Andthis is a harm. This is exactly
what we've been talking aboutduring the forum. It got me
thinking, guys, what ishappening, I think we can
(23:46):
consider LA Times like a majornews outlet, right? A part of
the mass media at least in thegreater LA area. They are
talking about this openly. I wasthinking to myself, wow, these
guys, either they have receivedthe green light to talk about
it, or they just somehowaccidentally dropped it dropped
(24:07):
this article saying that guys,we don't know what to do. And
these are highly toxic elementsinside the panels. We don't know
what to do with them. I don'tknow how to explain these
things. You know, because thereis a lot of contradicting
information. People say youshould drive electric cars but
now there is also news fromCalifornia where people are
(24:28):
being told not to charge theirelectric car not to overload the
system. How do people find theirway in all these contradiction?
Anywhere you go, we are beingtold, okay, the gas prices are
high, you should buy electricvehicles, but people who
complain about the high gasprices they cannot afford
electric vehicles. Otherwise,they will not be complaining
(24:50):
about the high gas prices. Ihave this impression that you're
in some kind of mental asylumand different voices coming from
all over saying absolutelycontradicting information, there
is this Ministry of Truth thatwill tell what is true and what
isn't when we know that truth isonly one, there cannot be
(25:11):
different declinations of truthfor different layers of
population or different regionsof the planet. But luckily
enough, we still have socialmedia. But when you see Donald
Trump banned from Twitter,Jordan Peterson being banned
from Twitter, and a lot of guysapparently were also banned or
without possibility to appeal.
There's the Babylon Bee account,guys are comedians, of course,
(25:32):
they touch upon very hot topicsin the news. But if you can not
say anything, and there isalready an organ that will tell
everyone what is allowed andwhat is not, what is true and
what isn't. Maybe they're usingthe 1984 as a manual, there was
also this video with JP who evenprinted aT-shirt "Make 1984
(25:56):
fiction again." Today, we are alittle bit all over the place
with different facts and stuff.
But it's just it's there's somuch information that you don't
even know where to start and howto process it. And I think that
actually this is this issomething that is being done by
(26:17):
choice that when people havethis constant stream of
information that not onlycontradicts, I mean, one outlet
contradicts another. But also,there are different opinions
being pushed through socialmedia channels, people, they
just switch off, as we said, Iwill just turn off everything
and go flip burgers in mybackyard. And the more we look
(26:41):
at these events that arehappening everywhere, the more I
see that this is being donepurposefully. It's not something
that can be I mean, you can notmake this thing up. You know,
it's really something that evenif you want it without a
concerted effort, this is notpossible. I mean, this is my
opinion.
Taliy (27:02):
Yeah, Lex, you know, when I'm seeing this whole surreal
fiction-like DisinformationGovernance Board idea, it makes
me think that yeah, first ofall, 1984 by Orwell was not a
guidance, it was a fiction book,and not supposed to take it
literally and execute whateverwas mentioned in there. It's not
wasn't meant to be like that itwas supposed to be a satire,
(27:24):
which is apparently not aconcept that Twitter CEOs can
understand that there is suchthing as satire. And when you
ban a satire profile, you justmake it more popular because
people are attracted to that.
But also, I'm seeing theintroduction of such things as
Disinformation Governance Boardas a backlash to the Overton
windows of truth, when onDecember 4th, 2021, at the
(27:46):
"Global Crisis. Time for theTruth" conference, people from
all over the world presentedfacts that the whole CO2 green
agenda is just a huge moneymaking scheme and presented all
the facts including how thesolar panels are just poisoning
our lands, how the plasticblades from the wind turbines
are just poisoning the very samelandfills. There are no
(28:09):
technologies to recycle them.
This is a huge economicaldamage, because nobody is even
considering the money it coststo produce them and the amount
of fossil fuels that goes intoit. And the amount of damage
that is being done to ournature, it's just a huge scheme
that is super dangerous for usas a society because it also
(28:31):
jeopardizes the way we obtainour main resource energy in the
time of the biggest climaticchallenges of current
civilization. This idea was justshocking, because it was for the
first time something like thiswas voiced and to even expect
that LA Times within only alittle bit over half a year is
going to present the very samefacts in a mainstream media all
(28:54):
over US, for the people to seethat the panels are really
damaged in our environment, thatthey're not healthy. Maybe as
soon they're going to get to theeconomical side of it and show
that this whole green energyscheme is not working for the
benefit of the society. And thenit's counterproductive, although
it can be used in places likeSahara to provide energy for the
(29:18):
vertical farms where we can.
There are cases for eachtechnology, there are specific
cases, but we cannot expect thatwe're gonna cover the whole
California and Nevada desertwith solar panels and it's going
to look like the Blade Runnermovie. And when they did it,
they covered the wholeCalifornia and it looks like do
you really want to live likethat? Do you think that that is
(29:40):
like what's happened to thepopulation of species living
over ther like nobody's evencares about it. There are things
that are not being considered.
And you know, again, becauseit's not a part of our
perception of the reality. It'sbeyond those borders that were
set by the so calledDisnformation Governance Board
(30:02):
even before it was officiallyintroduced, we don't think about
those things. And when peoplevoice the truth, they put this
information into some energyfield we have on our planet,
people start waking up tocertain way of thinking, This
fact is one of them. But the NewYork Times very soon, just
within a month after the verysame conference made an article
(30:25):
in which they were, for thefirst time in the history of
humanity, taking the very samefacts Antarctica is actually
only melting on one side, theice is melting from the bottom
up. So it's not from the CO2,which would apparently do it
from the top, but it's meltingfrom the bottom. When we start
voicing the truth at themultiple social media platforms
(30:47):
around the world. It createsthis voice that's being heard by
people and it affects thesociety. The thing is that we
see this backlash and what'sgonna be the outcome we already
see articles, The Hill presentedit as Orwellian looking, surreal
laws. The Washington Postcriticizing it. Washington Post
owned by Bezos himself.
Something is changing. Yeah, wedefinitely don't know how it's
(31:10):
gonna go because it all dependson the people perception,
something has changed for goodin our society, and there is no
way back. It's gonna go one wayor another. But it's going to
change our society for good.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
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