September 4, 2023 • 61 mins
Are you ready to unmask the reality of ignoring the real causes of climate change? This episode is a wake-up call to the alarming realities we’re facing – from the escalating climate crisis evidenced by the Lahaina wildfires and unusual hurricane Dora in Hawaii, to Egon Cholakian's urgent address to the scientific community and world leaders. We challenge the selective blindness that allows this worsening situation to persist, dissecting the environmental, social, and economic impacts that are too often overlooked.
We don't shy away from the hard questions either. How are the rapid advancements in tech impacting your livelihood? How does student loan debt and job security in an age of automation shape our society? Furthermore, how is it possible to create safety, prosperity, and freedom in such trying times? To address these questions, we explore the potential of the Creative Society's framework and its role in redefining our economic landscape if we choose it.
We also scrutinize the destructive forces of wind and sand in the Middle East, hailstorms, and the rising ocean temperatures. Potential solutions, like extracting water from the air and cleaning up ocean microplastics, are put under the microscope too.
Wrapping up our discussion, we reflect on the pandemic of idiocracy that has gripped people's minds, emphasizing the importance of critically verifying information. Don't miss out on this insightful episode as we tackle these issues head-on, armed with knowledge, empathy, and the will to enact change.
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Alexey (00:02):
Alright, we are live.
It's been three weekssince the last episode.
Several different thingshappened and most important
that we need to mention wasthe address by Egon Cholakian.
He first addressed everyonefrom the scientific community
and everyone living on thisplanet about the impending
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threats of and intensifyingall around the globe.
It was on August 13, andfour days later on August
17, he addressed the threeworld leaders: Joe Biden, Xi
Jinping, and Vladimir Putin.
He has a really great andextensive resume, and he was
working with four US Presidents.
(00:46):
He is working with CERN.
When you read everythingEgon has done in his life
he did not lose time.
You understand that he hasthe qualifications to speak
with authority about whathe's advancing and what he's
advancing is the real cause,the real causes of why we
(01:07):
are seeing these rapid shiftsin climate, and I think that
no one can deny anymore thatthings are not the same.
Just about two hours drivefrom where I'm in Switzerland,
in Germany, there was hugehailstorm, the fires in
Hawaii, again, earthquakes.
(01:29):
California was hit with storm,I think it was the first from
last 80 years, and with theearthquake at the same time.
Things are rapidlygetting worse and worse.
It is great that he has foundcourage to publicly address
the scientific communityand the world leaders.
(01:50):
And he started gathering resumeson his website, Earth Save
Science Collaborative.com.
He started gathering resumesfrom scientists who really
would like to participateto solve these problems.
And I think it is important,but, what struck me the most,
(02:11):
is that despite having tensof thousands of views on
his channels, and people whoreposted his videos as well
really gathered like hundredsof thousands of views as well.
I think collectively, maybethere's more than a million
views, and we still don'tsee that much resonance.
(02:31):
We've seen press releases onmany platforms, but still no
one is really talking about it.
And this seems to me likepeople don't want to see
what's happening, and I wouldlike to talk about this, the
selective blindness that weare going through this disease.
(02:52):
I can't give it anyother characteristic.
I'm seeing it also withpeople who are close to me.
You tell them, look, thereis this and this happening.
And they're telling, oh no, it'sfine, it was happening before.
It wasn't happening before.
For sure it wasn't happening.
We had plus 40 in Genevajust several days ago.
(03:15):
Right now it's 14degrees outside.
Rapid shifts.
At night, we will haveabout six degrees Celsius.
So 20 degrees at night, sixdegrees at night, 40 during
the day 14 - 15 during the day.
It's more than twice.
the difference.
And what do you think ishappening when there are
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rapid shifts in temperaturelike this, and the air is
heavily charged with water?
Hailstorms.
And we've seen a lotof this happening,
especially in big cities.
And why is that?
We can talk about this alsoa little bit later, but I'll
stop talking for the momentand give you the floor.
Taliy (03:57):
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Alex.
And you know, partial blindnessis a very good expression to
describe people's feedback toEgon Cholakian's address because
even on Twitter section, ifyou go into the comments, most
people started trying to repostsome things that CO2 is a fake
when Egon Cholakian was noteven talking about CO2, that's
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not the point of his address.
So in the second speech hestarted specifically with, let
me be clear I'm not talkingabout CO2, but those people
on Twitter still were tryingto, you know, post in the
comments that, you know, theygiving examples like Nobel
Prize winner John Klauser saidthat climate does not change.
(04:39):
There is no climate emergency.
Many prominent scientistswho are actually very smart
people, they denying the factthat CO2 could affect climate
change, which is a fair thing.
But they also deny thatclimate is changing in general,
which is complete absurdbecause climate does change.
It changes in cycles.
(05:00):
And we know that what wasdone with hockey stick graph,
they erased the cyclicity.
They erased the up and downchanges in temperatures,
especially during Holoceneabout 6,000 years ago.
And there was a huge warmingwith no anthropogenic emissions
involved whatsoever, becausewe did not use fossil fuels.
(05:21):
Actually, no one prior tous used fossil fuels, but
we're gonna talk aboutthis a little bit later.
What is interesting is thispartial blindness that took over
people's perception because EgonCholakian's address, second one,
he mentioned fires in Lahaina.
And I want to stress out partialblindness in common sections
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under the Lahaina wildfires aswell, because it raised so many
conspiracies, so many theoriesover there in which people
trying not to see what is notconvenient, excluding the things
that do not fit in their agenda.
And the agenda is that itwas all fabricated, it was
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all evil doing by some forceswho had power to do whether
they cut off the water forthe fireman on purpose, or
they didn't let people out,or they didn't bring the
necessary things to save people,which are all fair thing.
But why you turning a blindeye on the fact that anomalous
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hurricane Dora was passing byHawaii the very same day, the
closest distance ever, lessthan 500 miles from the islands
of Hawaii, and the winds wereexceeding 80 miles per hour.
So not only power lines weredown, and I'm taking that
footage, I'm taking footageof the power lines being
taken down by the wind andpeople in comment section
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telling me, why are you lying?
Power lines cannot betaken down by the wind.
Either this is some kind ofanomaly in mind's perception,
when they say that NativeAmericans could not see
battleships of Spanishconquistadors because it wasn't
fitting in their neuron systemor some kind of denialism
on completely new level.
(07:10):
You know, we've been calledclimate denialist, which was a
smear term, but in here we aretalking with human mind denying
reality because reality destroysthe perfect picture that each
one of us has for the future.
And, you know, it doesn'tmatter what kind of politicians
we're changing, even ifsomebody who you don't like
becomes a president, youstill can live your life.
(07:32):
You know, go to work, comehome and do whatsoever.
But if it's really a climatecycle and the scale of
cataclysms is much bigger,and many people do feel that
they do understand that, theydo see that, but they don't
want to accept this realitybecause it destroys their
perspectives, their picturesthey've drawn for their future.
(07:54):
And that is scary,that is something that
we never considered.
Watching movies aboutsuperheroes, but we never could
even think that real superpowerwould be ability to hear
when you're being told that,hey, something is happening.
So we are dealing with blindnessand lack of common sense.
(08:14):
It's not that common anymore.
Even very prominent people likeMark Stein, he wrote a book
Debunking Hockey Stick Graph.
He's a very smart journalist.
He's participating in theseconspiracy theories where
they discussing whether bluecolor umbrellas survived
by chance, or what was it?
(08:36):
The blue beam lasersthat was used on Hawaii.
And this is completely absurd.
They're trying to, even incomment section trying to
bring up all these things.
I think we're gonna talkabout this a little more, but
first I would like to hearfrom you, Alex your thoughts.
Alexey (08:53):
This is very interesting that people really are jumping
on anything but the real causes.
You mentioned this thingabout blue roofs or blue
cars or blue trash cans.
I've seen this as well.
Some people had red roofsand then they were creating
(09:13):
this narrative that,oh, that was a laser.
I was just thinking, guys,of course, it's easier to
blame someone because weare accustomed to blame
someone, because it's alwaysthem, whoever this may be.
It's not us, so wecannot do anything.
But we can rant anddo these crazy things.
(09:34):
Let me correct one thing.
I think it's notpartial blindness.
I think it is selectiveand elective blindness
because people really don'twant to see things that do
not fit their worldview.
Their perfect or not soperfect, but some kind of
planned life or the consecutivedays, weeks whatever.
(09:58):
And they ignore, theywillfully ignore things
that don't fit this picture.
Why is that?
Let me rant here a little bit.
We've been talking aboutthese things on this podcast
for more than a year, andwe are amassing really
miserable views everywhere.
(10:19):
We see that YouTube doesn'tlike what we are saying.
Okay, TikTok is gettingmore coverage for us.
And we've tried everything.
LinkedIn, Telegram,Instagram, everywhere.
YouTube shorts.
People don't want to listen.
Why?
Because this will probablybreak their perfect worldview.
(10:41):
This is one thing.
Another thing is that theywant anything money related.
They will even payinfluencers who will
tell them, again, anotherquick way to become rich.
They are queuing by millionsto really listen to some
guy who will tell how hebecame rags to riches, he
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had nothing and now he'sdriving a Ferrari or whatever.
But the problemis not even this.
Let's get to the basics,to our everyday life.
People are rantingeverywhere that they
struggle to pay their bills.
They say, electricity is so outof price, doubling, tripling
in prices in countries likeItaly, like 300% in one year.
(11:27):
We are talking about fuel freegenerators that already exist.
We are talking about how youcan live without paying for
all of this, we are talkingabout a life where you can
have free healthcare, freeeducation of great quality, and
we can also have free energybecause we are working for
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energy, for our bodies, forfood to heat our homes or to
cool them when it's very hot.
No one is interested.
Maybe they're afraid to talkabout these things, but why?
what is making themthink that it is illegal?
Why is it legal to proclaimthings that, oh, it's laser,
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the Earth is flat, or it's bluelasers, it's a HAARP, whatever.
But if it is HAARP, what is thepurpose of someone attacking
the whole planet, becauseit's not happening in one
particular part of the world.
Let's even go further.
let's imagine itwas Chinese, okay?
But China has one of thebiggest problems with floodings.
(12:36):
Doesn't reallymake sense, right?
If it were Americans, Americanshave their problems as well.
You just posted thevideos from thunderstorms.
We have seen what happened toCalifornia, two things at the
same time, Russia as well.
So who else?
Is it some kind of a mysterioussmall country we never heard
of that's doing all this?
(12:56):
Maybe people will enlightenus about these things.
Everyone is afraid ofreally telling what
they want in their life.
I have this example.
You know, it was reallyinteresting because when you
go to another country, youdon't really know the habits.
And I've seen in California,everyone was speeding.
When you are in theflow, everyone is
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speeding at certain rate.
When you're in the flow,people know that everyone
will not be fined.
So, they're willingly,willingly breaking the law and
doing this altogether withoutfearing any repercussions
or something like that.
When Egon Cholakian appealedto everyone regarding the
real causes of the climatedisasters and the prospects
of not doing anything, peopleare somehow not interested.
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They're not interested, andthey're afraid to even talk
to their friends about it.
What is this thing thatmakes them hope or think
that this will go away?
That somehow it'll calm down.
It would be okay tothink like this if there
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were no progression.
There is no regression.
It's always going up and up,and yet we have this resistance
from the general populationregarding the obvious reality.
The obvious reality,the facts that they see
just in front of them.
And this is crazy for me.
(14:25):
Yeah.
What do you think?
Taliy (14:27):
It's actually a very good example when people
decide to exceed the speedlimit, but to keep everyone
safe, everyone is drivingwith kind of the same speed.
That's happeningwithin sane limit.
So people would not startspeeding out of control,
but they keep it safe, butreasonable, maybe a little
bit over the speed limitbut still, majority of
people can self-regulate.
(14:47):
So it's a basic exampleof self-governance, right?
People can self-govern onthe road with exception
of those like 0.0% who'sgoing to endanger other
people's lives, right?
So for those cases, somebodyhas to step in and for the
safety of the majority,prevent extreme edge cases.
(15:09):
That's something that basicallyRonald Reagan has been
talking about in his speechesabout the Creative Society
when he was inaugurated.
He said, you know, for thosewho think that people are not
able to govern themselves, thenI would like to ask you, if you
deny human ability to governitself, how do you think that
any of this population wouldbe able to govern the others?
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And no one could answerthat, you know, because
that's truly so.
We've discussed this actuallya while ago when a strike
in Spain was regardingthe prices on electricity.
When people decided toswitch off the electricity
simultaneously, that leadsto certain consequences where
prices went down by very little.
(15:53):
What is interesting here thatthe power of a strike, of
going on a strike has beenbasic people right, and human
ability to actually fight fortheir rights for a long time.
But it seems like we forgotabout these things that how
much power people have withsimply going on strikes and
with union, at some pointunions lost its ability to
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fight for human rights, andit became just another add-on
to all this commercialism inwhich each worker in that union
only cares about making money.
And they taking donationsfrom the employees of the
certain sphere, and theylive off those donations.
So the only thing they careabout in unions today is
not fighting for the rightsof the workers, but to keep
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collecting money and being paidthemselves because, for them,
that's just a job that they do.
When people finally starttalking about strikes on
TikTok, a few weeks ago,calling for a national strike
all over US and even aroundthe world on September 1st, I
was like, wow, it's first timein decades that I'm hearing
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from somebody going on strikeother than some airline in
Italy, because on news theygo on strike all the time,
but it's actually interesting.
People started in America in theUS talking about these things.
And if you watch those TikToks,what people talking about,
they showing the graphs of thereal estate prices rise and the
rise of salaries, and they'reshowing that real estate went
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up 20 times, salary went uponly six times since 1970s.
So there is no way youcan afford the house.
Like having house is somethingthat you can forget about.
Your kids will never have ahouse, you will never have
a house, and most likely youwill lose ability to pay even
for your rental very soon.
Many people say so, theones who say that, you know,
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I'm ahead of this strike.
I've been without a job forsix months and living on
my last paycheck right now.
So people really frustratedwith this economical system.
But there is no solution.
Like if you really listen toall these people, they all
calling for different things.
So each one of them, oneguy says, let's withdraw
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all the money fromour checking accounts.
Another guy says, let'sjust simply not go to work.
And he doesn't evenhave a work to go to.
On the other hand, initially itwas all initiated by SAG actors
actors Guild of Hollywood.
All the people who losttheir jobs by being replaced
by artificial intelligence.
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You know, they don't needbackground actors anymore.
They simply paint them withdesign programs on the computer.
We've been talking aboutthis two years ago.
How come they were saying,oh guys, you must be kidding.
This is not gonna happenwithin 20 years, 30 years.
Technology is not gonnadevelop that fast.
Now that it already happenedand we've been forecasting it.
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It's not prediction.
We're not using crystal ball.
It's just ability to add twoplus two, which simply became
a rare thing, obviously.
We forecasted this, we dida pretty exact estimation
within the timeframe.
And now people want to,you know, pretend like
it never happened, like,because millions of people
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watched that conferencecalled "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone".
Where are those people?
Why no one is saying, heyguys, there were actually
this group of people two yearsago who were trying to warn
us, but we were silent anddumb and we did not share it.
And we just were thinking,they're kidding over there.
Nobody wants to embarrassthemselves like that.
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People having a hard timerealizing that, yeah, they
were right and I was wrong.
I was wrong about subscribingto the podcast of a guy
who was teaching me how toinvest in cryptocurrencies.
They were all, thecryptocurrencies disappearing
one after another.
And, but they would ratherbelieve this is something kind
of phenomenon when people liketo get tricked by the very same
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scheme again and again, butwhen they're being told truthful
facts and actually the solutionbecause Creative Society
is not calling for a strikeor some actions like that.
It's up to people todecide which way they
want to implement it.
But we have a frameworkwhich guarantees you safety,
prosperity, and freedom,which is very important.
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This is something thatthose all, again, all the
haters who bombarding uswith hatred and comments,
they say, oh, you're gonnagive us the UBI, but you're
gonna take away our freedom.
No, guys, you keep thefreedom plus you get UBI.
That's the deal that issomething that people having
hard time to accept and that,you know, you're not giving up
anything except the shacklesof consumerism on your hands.
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And actually as consumers,you're gonna receive more.
Your life as a consumeralso increases, but the
format itself is changing.
No, people don't want that.
People want to believethat something's gonna get
better once this governorof Hawaii will be from a
different political party.
People trying to make itabout political changes, they
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believe that UBI can only beintroduced by evil globalists.
That people who follow Jesusnot supposed to take UBI, people
who vote for Trump, they'renot supposed to take UBI.
Guys, AI does not carewhat's your political
affiliation or what kind ofreligious books you read.
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AI will replace everyone.
Years ago I used to talk topeople who spent a lot of
money, they took student loansto get a lawyer's degree.
And then eventually theirlawyer's jobs were not that
fancy, maybe few lawyersmaking millions of dollars,
but most of lawyers gettinglike whatever salary, but
the student loan is huge.
When I was talking to lawyers,it was in Los Angeles, they
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were saying, you know, I'mlucky that I even have a
job like that because manyof my colleagues graduated
from university, but some ofthem did not even get a job.
And I was like, but hold on,they have a huge student loan.
And I was like, yeah, theywent to Starbucks kind
of a job making lattes,you know, to survive.
And that was their plan B.
(22:04):
That was always like,maybe not plan B, plan
C, plan D, whatever.
But that was the backup plan.
But today, all the jobs, likethey used to call them mag jobs,
then it became barista jobs,they are all easily automated.
What's gonna beyour backup plan?
There is no backup plan.
Cryptocurrencies will be gone ina blink of an eye, the digital
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currency of the future willbe, but it'll be controlled by
government, if we do nothing.
And what you gonna do then?
Then it's gonna be 15 minutecities and then all your
fears will become true exceptfor one they will not stop
the climate weapon becausethere is no climate weapon.
That's the thing you having ahard time conveying to people
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that there is no climateweapon, these kind of things,
it would be great if somebodycould just press a button
and stop, but when you startbreaking up these facts because
they're too absurd, whenyou seeing them saying that
it's Chinese space lasers andChina is going underwater at
the same time, are you evencapable of adding two plus two?
Come on.
Half of the world is flooding.
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In Islamic world, they say ifGod's will, if God's will, then
we all gonna survive, or if Goddoesn't will, then we will not.
Well, Mecca was struck bylightnings like never before.
The hurricane was takingpeople away from that holy
praying place around Kaaba.
They were simply blown by thewind, and hailstorm and floods
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all over the peninsula, at thesame time heat waves and so on.
Is that what God willsor is that our ignorance?
Alexey, what are yourthoughts about it?
And I know you have manyconnections in that region.
What do people see?
Alexey (23:45):
First I would like to tell, you mentioned two
episodes from last year.
And this is great.
I mean, I prefer thesethings were not right.
Let's stress this once again.
But the first one when theSpanish guys went on strike
regarding the increasein electricity prices.
this was the episode fromJune 12th, 2022 "Accidental
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voting mechanism".
We'll link to itin the show notes.
And the second one was "Netzero ability to pay your
bills" from October 3rd, 2022.
If you have time and you areinterested you can revisit the
back catalog of the episodesand you will see the things
about which we talked a yearago and what is happening right
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now just to make two and twotogether and this can help.
Now, back to Mecca.
I think guys they knew aboutthe prophecies because they are
studying the Koran, and theyknow, not know, but they, they
believe that nothing will putin danger their sacred places.
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Well, this was not the case.
Everyone have seen the theguys struggling to keep up
with the wind and the benchesflying around, and things like
that just around the Kaaba.
What we see is againthis willful, selective
blindness to the facts.
We already have seen theimages of the deserts that
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really started to bloomand became green, covered
with lush grasslands.
You could really thinkthis is somewhere in
Northern California.
But no, it is Saudi Arabia.
The problem with everythingthat we are seeing, people
are still making plans on thefuture that they want to be
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a hundred percent free fromfossil fuel energy by 2050.
But guys, with this progression,there will be no 2050.
This is what weneed to understand.
Why is the increasing forceof the winds so important,
especially in placeslike the Middle East.
If we think about it, thesand that's everywhere.
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Some time ago thissand was something.
It didn't come out of nowhere.
Everything was destroyed tothis point that it became sand.
But now then we have these areasand the increasing speeds of
the wind, like on the imageswe'll link to these in the show
notes, what happened in Mecca.
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What is coming next, issuper mega typhoons with
wind speeds exceeding500 kilometers per hour.
And what these winds docombined with the sand, it's
like the sand blasting machine.
We have all seen what this does,it really erases everything.
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This is when even the mountainswill be sand blasted to nothing.
And this is important tounderstand that it's not only
happening to this region,but these things will happen
progressively over and overbecause wind doesn't have
a strict barrier and itblows here and not there.
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What we have seen, and youmentioned again the hockey
stick graph, but what doesn'tneed to be faked is the
rise of ocean's temperature.
We talked about the reasonswhy it is not fulfilling
its purpose being the airconditioner of this planet.
It's because we polluted,we destroyed the ecology, we
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polluted it with microplastics.
And the problem being that oncethe ocean is not cooling off,
and why it's not also coolingoff, it's because it's heated
from the bottom by the risingmagma plumes under the ocean.
It's like we have thispot with the water
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that's being heated up.
And what it does, itreleases more and more water
vapor in the atmosphere.
And when we have a lot ofwater vapor, this buildup
of water in the atmosphere.
Then with rapid changeswith cold and hot fronts
that are meeting together.
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And this is where wesee hailstorms, hail
the size of football.
Why?
Well, because when you have arapid cooling of water mass,
you have ice that's formingat these high altitudes.
But there are solutions to this.
when we have abundant watervapor in the atmosphere,
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we can extract this watereven in the desert, we don't
need to take water from theocean and desalinate it.
What we can do isextract it from the air.
There are many devices alreadythat exist and for example, if
you have a copper grid, finecopper grid, you need to put
some current on it and thenit can accumulate up to three
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tons of water just duringthe night, well, depending
on the surface, but in thearid desert, it can do it.
What this will do?
When we are not taking waterfrom the ocean, from the
lakes, from rivers, or fromunderground, but we are
taking this evaporated waterthat came from the ocean
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with microplastics in it,because they're so small,
they're smaller than eventhe dust, these devices, they
will have some byproducts.
And these byproductswill be the pollutants
including microplastics.
So water is cleaned likemore than 90%, about 95%
from all the pollutants.
It really becomes clean.
So we can have clean watereven there where we currently
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don't have drinking water.
At the same time we willbe cleaning the ocean from
microplastics and give itscooling capabilities back.
We can do this already.
And these are also thesolutions that Egon was talking
about, that we need to do thedegassing of the volcanoes.
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Because we have the volcanoproblem everywhere as well.
There are solutions.
I think this is Egon'sspecialty, the volcanoes and how
we can alleviate the pressureunder the tectonic plates that
we can be doing some drillingand deep underground explosions,
but controlled, and at certainplaces, that will alleviate the
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pressure on the tectonic plates.
Like this, we will bedoing these preventive
measures so that we don'thave earthquakes, we don't
have volcano, eruptions.
People are not listening.
And we can forecast this aswell, that once everyone will
understand, because at somepoint in time the situation
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will be so bad that peoplewill not be able to tell, oh,
nothing is happening, becausethis will affect everyone.
At this point in time, theywill blame people like us
telling but why didn't youfind the necessary words
to tell us these things?
Why didn't you do?
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As we know, this habit ofputting the responsibility on
someone else and then blamingthis person, this is so deep
inside of our civilization.
It lives so deep inside ofevery one of us that in order
to overcome this, you needto see that you have this
disease, and then you canwillfully go the other way.
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You can take the responsibilityfor your life, for the life
of your loved ones in yourhands and then move forward.
But before this happens,I'm afraid that a lot
of people will suffer.
And this is not an uncertainty.
This is certain.
It just that once everythingis looking not so bad outside
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our window, our consciousnesshas this defect, I would
call it like this that itsays, oh, okay, you know,
what are you talking about?
Well, the sun is shining,or right now it's misty,
nothing really is happening.
And it was hot.
Now it's raining, soeverything is fine.
Well, the problem is that itwas abnormally hot, breaking
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every previous record, notonly for this month, but in
general for the country, forall the period of observations.
And then it was rainingso hard that it broke
also, all the records.
And when you have every othernews we are getting is another
record breaking something.
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how obstinate should you be?
How willingly blind you wannabe to say, oh, but, you know,
these things really happenedbefore, when your lifespan
on this planet is maybeseveral decades, not longer.
We need to fight this diseasebefore it is too late, actually,
(32:54):
before it is too late, weneed to fight this disease.
And just going back to yourquestion of how are people
doing in the Emirates.
As everywhere else, buildingplans, worrying about Bitcoin
going down bringing kidsto school, and just going
about their lives as usual.
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Plus 47, end of August,how great is that?
Oh, but it was before, and it'sa country in the Middle East.
It should be normal.
No guys, it's not normal.
It is not normal.
And we have to reallycollectively get rid of
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this disease of willful,selective blindness.
This is something thatwe need to go through
together as a civilization.
Otherwise, there isno more civilization.
Taliy (33:52):
Absolutely.
And what we have beenseeing with the Arabic
world, the very same thing.
They building plans.
They hoping for theBitcoin to go up.
They're only willingto take advices.
Again, from what we startedin the very beginning.
Your podcast is gonna besuccessful if you are gonna
teach people how to makemoney and drive fancy cars.
Andrew Tate is anexample of that.
(34:13):
Who would listen toAndrew Tate if he wasn't
driving his Bugatti.
And he only got his Bugattibecause his followers donated
him money one way or anotherthrough the Hustlers University.
He became a Muslim and then,Candice Owens this very
intelligent indeed lady came toRomania to take an interview.
And she's saying, you know,we feel very sorry that you're
(34:36):
not Christian anymore and wecannot use you as an example for
Christians in the United States.
I'm watching it.
I'm just thinking whatkind of ignorance, right?
And we're thinking she'sa smart person, but how
ignorant you have to be tosay these kind of things.
And we're looking at Tate andhe's just blinking like a fish.
Like he doesn't understandthat being a Muslim does not
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mean denying Christianity.
It's in the core, the messageof Prophet Muhammad, peace
be upon him, was the verysame that the message of the
prophet of Christianity, whothey're gonna yell, he wasn't
a prophet, he was son of aGod with hatred to anyone who
would say otherwise, but theymissing the very key point
that the will was shown throughactions of Prophet Muhammad,
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the way he behaved, the wayhe made you know, interactions
with people of other faith.
The Medina agreement was thewilling of God how people
supposed to live on Earth.
That's the way we should treateach other, but we denied
it instead of, you know,instead of signing Medina
agreements with one another.
There started wars withfirst Iran than Osman, well
(35:43):
before the Osman Empirethere was Byzantian Empire.
It was conquered asa result of a war.
But then many people thinkit was success for Islam,
that Islam spread that way.
It was a collapse of ofthe whole idea of peaceful
unification of the world.
And I would liketo stress that out.
That many people who studyIslam, they pointed out
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that Islam had much betterchance of becoming a
unification in peaceful way.
And the example of that isthe biggest Muslim country
in the world, Indonesia, itbecame Muslim not as a result
of military actions, butbecause people saw the benefits
of Islam in a peaceful way.
And that's something that'sbeen denied by the people
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all over the world thattoday we could actually
sign the Medina agreement.
Because Creative Society, eightpillars of the Creative Society
represents the very same thing.
It is actually the Medinaagreement of today.
But for some reason, it'sbeing ignored by the people
we're seeing that is, it's beenignored by the Arabic world,
(36:47):
by the people who Prophet hadhopes for, and even people
who popularizing those valuesamong Western world, like
Andrew Tate, they do not evengrasp the idea of unification
of people as the only way toovercome extreme climate change.
In fact, if you subscribeto the political party that
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prioritizes Christianity orsome religious values, you
have to deny climate change.
Excuse me guys.
Have you ever read your ownBible, anything about the floods
you can recall over there?
I would like to point outto you that those stories
about great floods didnot appear from nowhere.
With the participantsof Creative Society and
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AllatRa International PublicMovement, we've made a lot
of research on that topic.
There are whole Kaleidoscope ofFacts episodes in which there
is analysis of each scriptureand histories about great
flood in 140 plus differentcultures around the globe.
That wasn't a fairytale.
It was something thatactually happened.
(37:51):
Anyone who has access toNetflix can turn on the Ancient
Apocalypse eight episode filmof Graham Hancock on Netflix
and just watch that it'sscientifically proven that
there are pyramids, greatpyramids of 12,000 years
old and 24,000 years old.
So people were building themat the time of the cyclical
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great cataclysms to avoidthem and through Kaleidoscope
of Facts, you can find outhow exactly the pyramids
were used by those culturesto avoid the consequences,
undesirable consequences.
And it is no secret thatthere have been those ancient
civilization because too muchevidence is there, no matter how
the official science was tryingto hide them in their museums
(38:36):
and sometimes even destroy.
Somehow, as we see, everytime something is happening,
like ISIS or whatever, thefirst thing they destroyed
is historical evidence.
Why?
Why would they destroythe Lion of Al-lāt?
The very same thing.
They want to destroy thewhole historical evidence
about the fact that humanityused to live another way.
We used to be unified andfirst 6,000 years of this
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new age were spent in acompletely different format.
But again, for the first timein history because of human
greed and desire to controlpopulation, about a hundred
years ago, we went intousing fossil fuels instead of
fuel free energy generators.
Every single time priorto that civilization would
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develop to a certain stageof scientific progress.
They would use FFGsbecause it is natural.
And we were there.
A hundred years ago, wewere right at the brink
of developing new sourceof energy for everyone.
But then how wouldyou be controlled?
How would you becharged for electricity?
How would you becharged for gasoline?
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How the, it was just used bythe elites and you can see who
exactly was standing for abandonall the scientific research of
Nikola Tesla and many peoplebefore him and after him.
So there is a lot of evidenceand just putting all of
these pieces of puzzletogether was something that
Creative Society and AllatRaInternational Public Movement
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have been doing for a while.
But you see whatwe got for that?
There was no supportfrom the people.
In fact AllatRa wasbanned in Russia recently.
We were smeared, all ofus, but in Russia, it
was officially banned.
Now we have a huge blankspot on the map of the world.
The whole Russian Federationis excluded from scientific
research in climate field.
(40:28):
It became North Korea numbertwo, just a much larger one.
And that threatens the wholedevelopment of solution
when it comes to response toextreme climatic events that
are occurring more and more.
And you know what Egon Cholakianwas talking about the fact
that volcanoes can be treated,that you know, it's not just a
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question of national security.
When we met Egon in WashingtonDC we were presenting
a scientific report.
Of course in a form that'sunderstandable for the general
population about climate.
It was recently after the lastyear's conference, international
online forum, "Global Crisis.
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Our Survival is in Unity".
And Egon was one of the fewpeople who actually understood,
he grasped the idea and hisresponse to us was, you know,
most of the people in thatroom, they couldn't even
understand you because eventhe language you speak is
not part of their vocabulary.
In case of what you are talkingabout, there is not even a
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vocabulary because climatechange does not associate in
minds of most of the generalpopulation with the things
that you're talking about.
When you bring up climatechange, people instantly
think CO2, taxation and globalwarming, and Greta Thunberg.
People don't understandwhat Egon Cholakian
has been talking about.
(41:54):
Well, it takes certain time,dedication to actually watch
at least half an hour of hisaddress to understand that he's
talking about the processesinside of the planet that
have nothing to do with CO2.
It takes time to understandwhat Creative Society have
been talking about, butunfortunately, people are
not willing to actuallydedicate that much time.
(42:15):
You know, 12 hours thatcould save your life.
I wouldn't think it's too much.
People dedicate much moretime to watching Netflix,
but unfortunately the Barbieish TV shows and so on.
How come that thing is trendingso much, but Ancient Apocalypse
by Graham Hancock, that couldactually enlighten you, is
a sensation, but only withinthe field of, you know, field
(42:39):
of people who interestedin those kind of things.
Little bit moreopen-minded people.
General population forsome reason think it
would not affect them.
For them it's a shockthat people from first
world countries becomingclimate refugees.
I still remember that eyewitness from Germany who said,
we were so shocked that theflood happened in Germany.
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It's supposed to happen onlyin third world countries.
In her imagination, it's alegitimate picture that there
is no big, if there's anotherflood somewhere in Pakistan,
that's fine, but not in Germany.
Well now we will see howpeople from first world
countries will have tomigrate to those countries
which have been conqueredby their elites a while ago.
(43:25):
And the countries which havevirtually no infrastructure.
The very same countriesin which there is no
access to even water.
And people from developedcountries who made all
their wealth on stealingand the natural resources
from Third World, they willhave to migrate, running
away, escaping from climateCerberus, from climate threat.
(43:48):
They will have to escapeto those countries.
And let's see howinfrastructure is gonna
be there, it's not ready.
And let's see what's gonnahappen to even population of
Arabic Peninsula, which youknow, it's super wealthy.
They have skyscrapers, butbuilt in a place which,
which will collapse.
So it's stupid wasteof resources, but
(44:10):
unfortunately, our messageis still not being heard.
So guys, if you have any ideasregarding how to reach out to
the people and let our messagebe heard, write in the comment
section below because we thinkwe tried all possible ways.
Maybe you can come up with abetter solution for people not
to blame us, that we didn't usethe correct method of conveying
(44:32):
the information to them.
As Alex said, we mightbe the one blamed for not
conveying this informationin the best possible way.
So let us know what isthe best possible way.
And what is your creative idea?
Ask ChatGPT, how wouldyou inform the world if
you were in our shoes?
Well, we've seen this with youknow, "Don't Look Up" movie.
And I love the analogy whenAlex said, we live in don't
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look down movie, because peopletrying to avoid seeing the true.
natural reasons for theclimatic events, and it's all
happening from underneath.
It's all happening from heatingup of the planet and anomalous
hurricanes, we had two of themthis month, Dora and Hillary.
And guys, it's not eventhe hurricane season yet.
(45:16):
So how do you even convey thismessage that this is not normal?
The hurricane season havenot even started this.
And again, what Alex said,the speed of wind is already
exceeding all the limits,but when it's gonna go beyond
500 per hour, it's gonna bea completely different story.
That is not abnormal.
There have been hurricaneswith higher speed, but
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they were absolutelyanomalous in the past.
And right now it's becomingnew normal when you know the
lightning thunderstorms strikingMidwest few times a week.
With the sky lit up like it'sdaytime, few times every second.
There are no lightnings, thereare no light storms like that
(45:58):
ever in even in memory of thepeople who live in this area.
And you can go on TikTok,you can watch the guy filming
this over the lake Erie, andhe says, this is something
I've never seen before.
I hope we're gonna downloadthat footage because in
case it might be erased.
So is a lot of stuffthat is being erased from
the internet right now.
(46:19):
It might be gone forever, butlet's download the footage,
let's comment on this and let'sbring up people's awareness
about the Creative Society.
And we're looking for the ideasfrom you, our dear listeners.
Few of you.
We don't have millionsof listeners yet.
In fact you know what saved thispodcast, Alexey might emphasize
on this, but what saved ourpodcast last year is when we
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were super frustrated with thesmall amount of use on each
platform, but when we checkedthe combined numbers, it was
a quite significant number.
So it made us believe that thisis actually something worth
our attention and time, becauseacross all platforms it's a
very significant amount of use.
So guys, it might seem likeit's a little bit of difference
(47:04):
here and there, but in generalit might be a bigger impact
that we simply not seeing.
So that gives us hopein a brighter future.
But all it takes is for youto join and speak up with us.
Alexey (47:17):
When we started looking at the numbers of
the podcast last year and wedecided to continue was the
combined number of reachedpeople, reached accounts
across all social platforms.
And it is the same habit ofour consciousness when it
comes to climate change oranything else for that matter
(47:39):
is that, it gives us some sortof information but not facts.
It gives us conclusions basedon other conclusions or based
on information taken out ofcontext and makes us think
that, oh, things are really bad.
(48:00):
No one is listeningto your podcast.
No one is watching your YouTubeshorts or Instagram posts when
in fact when you calculate,things are not the same.
The same happeningwith climate as well.
Oh, it's not that dramatic.
But yes it is.
When you put together allnumbers, it is dramatic.
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It is getting worse, and it isgetting worse while we speak.
I would say that we needto eradicate this nefarious
habit of our consciousness tofantasize and make up things
and teach it to go reallydeep to make our own research
(48:43):
before concluding anything.
And when we get to the rootcause, or really go deep
into the understanding ofany topic, when we have the
facts, when we operate with thefacts, then we can understand
what is really happening.
I have never seen anyonewho really put in their time
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and effort and not gettingto understand something.
It is really important rightnow for us as humanity to get to
these understandings together,but not just go and jump on
any theory that's popping upsomewhere on social media that,
oh, it's another weapon, oh,it's another I don't know what,
(49:28):
it's another conspiracy theory.
You don't need to be aconspiracy theorist when
you have the facts andthe facts are there.
The facts areoutside your window.
You don't need any other facts.
If you just make yourown observation table of
temperatures, of wind speeds,of rainfall and other events
(49:53):
in your area, you will alsosee how things are changing.
But even besides this, theidea that someone is tweaking
the climate or playing God bycausing these catastrophes.
Someone from anothercountry, or maybe aliens,
(50:14):
there are many theories.
The thing is that whywould they, no really,
what is the point?
What is the point ofdoing this to the planet?
They live on the same planet.
They have relatives.
They are the ones whoactually are suffering
from the same things.
Their factories arebeing burned as well.
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Their planes arefalling down as well.
We are keen on jumpingon these theories and
this really goes viral.
Like, oh my God, look atthese blue houses or whatever.
When everyone is jumpingon this idea, we need
to also understand why.
From my observation, only reallystupid ideas gain this much
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traction from everyone around.
Will we grow up in time toprevent what is happening?
Will we be able to overcomeour differences that are
also being put in us byconsciousness that says that,
oh, this person is differentbecause as you mentioned now we
(51:21):
cannot use Andrew Tate becausehe's no longer Christian.
You shouldn't useTate as a role model.
This is one thing.
I can anticipate some hatefrom people regarding this.
But guys I'm subscribed tohis newsletter and I'm reading
what he is dropping every day.
If everything that you areinterested in is money and
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domination over others, well youare at the right place, because
he will teach you these things.
And the problem is thatmoney became our God.
This is the problemthat our God is money.
People preaching in thechurch are also subject
to the same God - money.
(52:04):
And when we think thatto save our humanity,
what we lack is money.
Money that we invented,money that we are printing
at will when some peoplethink it is necessary,
and we are not using it tosave our lives, can we call
ourselves intelligent beings?
(52:25):
Maybe not.
But I would really wantfor everyone to think about
these things and go throughthe facts, make your own
picture of the world andchoose your place in this
world, where you want to be?
Do you really think that makingplans for the future when
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these things are happeningis more worth of your time?
Or maybe it's worth investing alittle bit of your time to first
understand what is happeningand then spread the message
around you in a way that peoplelisten to you and understand
what you're talking about.
It would be great becausethis is what we need.
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We need to invest our timeand attention into solving the
problem that we all are having.
This is a great point tounite on really because what's
more beautiful than savinglife and saving our planet?
I don't see anything elsethat could be more noble, more
(53:28):
beautiful, and worthy of a humanbeing than saving the lives
of everyone on this planet.
Taliy (53:37):
Yeah, that's a great ideology to subscribe to instead
of dividing people actuallyfinding a common ground.
Again, coming back to what westarted from Egon Cholakian
started from the fact thatscience can save our planet.
And then in his secondaddress, he said, we
need for that politiciansto sign the agreements.
(53:57):
And guys, politicians willnot sign the agreements.
Also what Egon said, mass mediashould support this message,
and we've seen mass media didnot support because they only
care about what's being paidfor, they will not publish the
news about Egon Cholakian'saddress unless they're being
paid or ordered to do so by theowners of the media outlets.
(54:18):
And those owners are too busyplaying the very same game that
everyone else is playing here.
Money and power, which infact is the very same thing.
What is the wayout of this matrix?
It's stepping out of the gameand observing it from the side
and seeing the greater picture.
Like ants in the ant house,fighting for resources and
not seeing that very soona highway will be built
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through the forest, takingdown all the ant house with
all the ants and so on.
That's us humanity.
So let's zoom out from theBitcoin currencies, from
political affiliations,from very interesting things
that are happening in thefield of this politician
versus that politician.
People are so excited sharingTrump's mugshots on Twitter.
(55:04):
If only people would besame excited about posting
Egon Cholakian's address, itwould be super beneficial,
but unfortunately we've onlywitnessing that people are
spreading negative messagesmuch faster, and whatever has
to do with taking responsibilityoff our shoulders, because if
it's elites with laser beamstaking down Maui houses to
(55:28):
build up 15 minutes cities inthere, then it's fine, because
it's somebody else is doing,and you can rage about it.
But if it's actually anomalousclimatic event and something was
passing by on a high speed likehurricane Dora and the winds
were taking down power linesand no one was ready for that.
And even police officerscould not take people out
(55:49):
because, power lines blockedthe street, firemen could not
use water because electriclines were down, there was
no electricity at the waterpump, so there was no water.
So it was notsomebody's evil doing.
If you actually watch thephotographs of City of Lahaina,
you can see that houses withblue roofs were burned just
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as well as all other houses.
And you can see thewildfires in Greece, you
know they have SantoriniIsland with blue and white.
You think that wouldbe very protected.
But you can see that blueroofs in Greece, in Lahaina,
in Tenerife, and the blue carsare burning just the same way.
And the only house, themiracle house that survived
(56:29):
on Lahaina had a red roof.
Imagine people's insanity ifit actually had blue roof,
people would go crazy, right?
They would say, oh, that'sthe ultimate proof our
Bluebeam theory is right.
And again, coming back toCandice Owens, she had the whole
episode on Project Bluebeam,so it's coming from nineties.
(56:50):
Bluebeams, you know, UnitedNations have blue helmets,
so they not affected by theseblue beams from the sky.
Guys, when you going down therabbit hole of conspiracies,
it's very easy to get lost.
And this is where you haveto have somebody's checking
upon you, then yes, somebody'sdoing the reality check.
Are you still attachedto the reality?
(57:10):
And if you are checkingthe Kaleidoscope of Facts,
taking it holistically fromthe perspective of what
actually makes sense, whatis attached to reality, and
what is completely absurd.
Something that has beengoing online is the hashtag
#PsyOpMaui and the real psyopwas convincing people that
it's a human manipulated event.
(57:32):
Unfortunately, this was the realpsyop and those people who share
truthful facts as they thinkabout what happened in Maui
are the victims of the psyop.
And this psyop is to switchingresponsibility onto somebody
else's shoulders, whetherit's the governor or local
police administration.
A lot of weird stuffhas happened there.
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There was lack of preparation,including the people
themselves who knew thatthe wildfires were going for
days but did not evacuate.
But then what we saw in otherregions of the world that
people acting the same way, andyou cannot call it other way
than pandemic of some kind ofdisease that blocking people's
ability to understand thatthey can easily get caught
(58:17):
on fire as well when filmingfrom the river bank or ocean
shore, hey, the fire is coming,let's take some more videos.
This is the real pandemic.
The pandemic in human minds.
And unfortunately, it takestime to unblock people from
understanding the fact thatit's up to me, you and everyone
hearing this podcast tolet everyone know about it.
(58:38):
This is the real antidote tothe pandemic of idiocracy, of
tremendous lack of productivityfrom the people themselves
because they hoping that it'sgonna be a politician who might
get elected or somebody else, orJesus Christ, they want somebody
to come and do everythingfor them, but they don't want
to do the action themselves.
Please people, start verifyingfacts, take it critically.
(59:01):
Don't take what wesaying here as facts.
Verify it.
Do the fact checking yourself.
I know fact-checker soundsoffensive right now because the
whole concept of fact checkinghas been a huge disgrace.
But we have the ability toactually take critically things
and take all the facts intoaccount, and not only try to
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blame somebody for this, butactually take responsibility
for what has happened.
That's unfortunate.
But all of us takeresponsibility for not conveying
this information to others.
We did our best as CreativeSociety, but still we saying
there might be some thingswe could have done better.
Maybe me and Alex shouldhave a side podcast about
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Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies,and the way to make money and
decide just to capture yourguys' interest in sharing
information one way or another.
Or let's be sensational fora second and talk about dirty
laundry of this Hollywood staror that one just to capture
your attention and then talkabout really important things.
So, if you know better ways toconvey this information, let us
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know and we're looking forwardto hearing your feedback.
It's been a great pleasuretalking to you, Alex today.
Alexey (01:00:15):
Yeah, it's been great.
And just one finalword for today.
This is the case where ifyou want to do it good, do
it yourself, really applies.
Going back to the previousepisode when Taliy you said, we
should use our pride to do good.
(01:00:36):
This is the time and placeto use your pride and really
spread this information, findnew ways of reaching other
people and making this worlda livable place because right
now it is becoming unlivable.
Alright, we are live.
It's been three weekssince the last episode.
Several different thingshappened and most important
that we need to mention wasthe address by Egon Cholakian.
He first addressed everyonefrom the scientific community
and everyone living on thisplanet about the impending
(00:24):
threats of and intensifyingall around the globe.
It was on August 13, andfour days later on August
17, he addressed the threeworld leaders: Joe Biden, Xi
Jinping, and Vladimir Putin.
He has a really great andextensive resume, and he was
working with four US Presidents.
(00:46):
He is working with CERN.
When you read everythingEgon has done in his life
he did not lose time.
You understand that he hasthe qualifications to speak
with authority about whathe's advancing and what he's
advancing is the real cause,the real causes of why we
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are seeing these rapid shiftsin climate, and I think that
no one can deny anymore thatthings are not the same.
Just about two hours drivefrom where I'm in Switzerland,
in Germany, there was hugehailstorm, the fires in
Hawaii, again, earthquakes.
(01:29):
California was hit with storm,I think it was the first from
last 80 years, and with theearthquake at the same time.
Things are rapidlygetting worse and worse.
It is great that he has foundcourage to publicly address
the scientific communityand the world leaders.
(01:50):
And he started gathering resumeson his website, Earth Save
Science Collaborative.com.
He started gathering resumesfrom scientists who really
would like to participateto solve these problems.
And I think it is important,but, what struck me the most,
(02:11):
is that despite having tensof thousands of views on
his channels, and people whoreposted his videos as well
really gathered like hundredsof thousands of views as well.
I think collectively, maybethere's more than a million
views, and we still don'tsee that much resonance.
(02:31):
We've seen press releases onmany platforms, but still no
one is really talking about it.
And this seems to me likepeople don't want to see
what's happening, and I wouldlike to talk about this, the
selective blindness that weare going through this disease.
(02:52):
I can't give it anyother characteristic.
I'm seeing it also withpeople who are close to me.
You tell them, look, thereis this and this happening.
And they're telling, oh no, it'sfine, it was happening before.
It wasn't happening before.
For sure it wasn't happening.
We had plus 40 in Genevajust several days ago.
(03:15):
Right now it's 14degrees outside.
Rapid shifts.
At night, we will haveabout six degrees Celsius.
So 20 degrees at night, sixdegrees at night, 40 during
the day 14 - 15 during the day.
It's more than twice.
the difference.
And what do you think ishappening when there are
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rapid shifts in temperaturelike this, and the air is
heavily charged with water?
Hailstorms.
And we've seen a lotof this happening,
especially in big cities.
And why is that?
We can talk about this alsoa little bit later, but I'll
stop talking for the momentand give you the floor.
Taliy (03:57):
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Alex.
And you know, partial blindnessis a very good expression to
describe people's feedback toEgon Cholakian's address because
even on Twitter section, ifyou go into the comments, most
people started trying to repostsome things that CO2 is a fake
when Egon Cholakian was noteven talking about CO2, that's
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not the point of his address.
So in the second speech hestarted specifically with, let
me be clear I'm not talkingabout CO2, but those people
on Twitter still were tryingto, you know, post in the
comments that, you know, theygiving examples like Nobel
Prize winner John Klauser saidthat climate does not change.
(04:39):
There is no climate emergency.
Many prominent scientistswho are actually very smart
people, they denying the factthat CO2 could affect climate
change, which is a fair thing.
But they also deny thatclimate is changing in general,
which is complete absurdbecause climate does change.
It changes in cycles.
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And we know that what wasdone with hockey stick graph,
they erased the cyclicity.
They erased the up and downchanges in temperatures,
especially during Holoceneabout 6,000 years ago.
And there was a huge warmingwith no anthropogenic emissions
involved whatsoever, becausewe did not use fossil fuels.
(05:21):
Actually, no one prior tous used fossil fuels, but
we're gonna talk aboutthis a little bit later.
What is interesting is thispartial blindness that took over
people's perception because EgonCholakian's address, second one,
he mentioned fires in Lahaina.
And I want to stress out partialblindness in common sections
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under the Lahaina wildfires aswell, because it raised so many
conspiracies, so many theoriesover there in which people
trying not to see what is notconvenient, excluding the things
that do not fit in their agenda.
And the agenda is that itwas all fabricated, it was
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all evil doing by some forceswho had power to do whether
they cut off the water forthe fireman on purpose, or
they didn't let people out,or they didn't bring the
necessary things to save people,which are all fair thing.
But why you turning a blindeye on the fact that anomalous
(06:26):
hurricane Dora was passing byHawaii the very same day, the
closest distance ever, lessthan 500 miles from the islands
of Hawaii, and the winds wereexceeding 80 miles per hour.
So not only power lines weredown, and I'm taking that
footage, I'm taking footageof the power lines being
taken down by the wind andpeople in comment section
(06:48):
telling me, why are you lying?
Power lines cannot betaken down by the wind.
Either this is some kind ofanomaly in mind's perception,
when they say that NativeAmericans could not see
battleships of Spanishconquistadors because it wasn't
fitting in their neuron systemor some kind of denialism
on completely new level.
(07:10):
You know, we've been calledclimate denialist, which was a
smear term, but in here we aretalking with human mind denying
reality because reality destroysthe perfect picture that each
one of us has for the future.
And, you know, it doesn'tmatter what kind of politicians
we're changing, even ifsomebody who you don't like
becomes a president, youstill can live your life.
(07:32):
You know, go to work, comehome and do whatsoever.
But if it's really a climatecycle and the scale of
cataclysms is much bigger,and many people do feel that
they do understand that, theydo see that, but they don't
want to accept this realitybecause it destroys their
perspectives, their picturesthey've drawn for their future.
(07:54):
And that is scary,that is something that
we never considered.
Watching movies aboutsuperheroes, but we never could
even think that real superpowerwould be ability to hear
when you're being told that,hey, something is happening.
So we are dealing with blindnessand lack of common sense.
(08:14):
It's not that common anymore.
Even very prominent people likeMark Stein, he wrote a book
Debunking Hockey Stick Graph.
He's a very smart journalist.
He's participating in theseconspiracy theories where
they discussing whether bluecolor umbrellas survived
by chance, or what was it?
(08:36):
The blue beam lasersthat was used on Hawaii.
And this is completely absurd.
They're trying to, even incomment section trying to
bring up all these things.
I think we're gonna talkabout this a little more, but
first I would like to hearfrom you, Alex your thoughts.
Alexey (08:53):
This is very interesting that people really are jumping
on anything but the real causes.
You mentioned this thingabout blue roofs or blue
cars or blue trash cans.
I've seen this as well.
Some people had red roofsand then they were creating
(09:13):
this narrative that,oh, that was a laser.
I was just thinking, guys,of course, it's easier to
blame someone because weare accustomed to blame
someone, because it's alwaysthem, whoever this may be.
It's not us, so wecannot do anything.
But we can rant anddo these crazy things.
(09:34):
Let me correct one thing.
I think it's notpartial blindness.
I think it is selectiveand elective blindness
because people really don'twant to see things that do
not fit their worldview.
Their perfect or not soperfect, but some kind of
planned life or the consecutivedays, weeks whatever.
(09:58):
And they ignore, theywillfully ignore things
that don't fit this picture.
Why is that?
Let me rant here a little bit.
We've been talking aboutthese things on this podcast
for more than a year, andwe are amassing really
miserable views everywhere.
(10:19):
We see that YouTube doesn'tlike what we are saying.
Okay, TikTok is gettingmore coverage for us.
And we've tried everything.
LinkedIn, Telegram,Instagram, everywhere.
YouTube shorts.
People don't want to listen.
Why?
Because this will probablybreak their perfect worldview.
(10:41):
This is one thing.
Another thing is that theywant anything money related.
They will even payinfluencers who will
tell them, again, anotherquick way to become rich.
They are queuing by millionsto really listen to some
guy who will tell how hebecame rags to riches, he
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had nothing and now he'sdriving a Ferrari or whatever.
But the problemis not even this.
Let's get to the basics,to our everyday life.
People are rantingeverywhere that they
struggle to pay their bills.
They say, electricity is so outof price, doubling, tripling
in prices in countries likeItaly, like 300% in one year.
(11:27):
We are talking about fuel freegenerators that already exist.
We are talking about how youcan live without paying for
all of this, we are talkingabout a life where you can
have free healthcare, freeeducation of great quality, and
we can also have free energybecause we are working for
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energy, for our bodies, forfood to heat our homes or to
cool them when it's very hot.
No one is interested.
Maybe they're afraid to talkabout these things, but why?
what is making themthink that it is illegal?
Why is it legal to proclaimthings that, oh, it's laser,
(12:10):
the Earth is flat, or it's bluelasers, it's a HAARP, whatever.
But if it is HAARP, what is thepurpose of someone attacking
the whole planet, becauseit's not happening in one
particular part of the world.
Let's even go further.
let's imagine itwas Chinese, okay?
But China has one of thebiggest problems with floodings.
(12:36):
Doesn't reallymake sense, right?
If it were Americans, Americanshave their problems as well.
You just posted thevideos from thunderstorms.
We have seen what happened toCalifornia, two things at the
same time, Russia as well.
So who else?
Is it some kind of a mysterioussmall country we never heard
of that's doing all this?
(12:56):
Maybe people will enlightenus about these things.
Everyone is afraid ofreally telling what
they want in their life.
I have this example.
You know, it was reallyinteresting because when you
go to another country, youdon't really know the habits.
And I've seen in California,everyone was speeding.
When you are in theflow, everyone is
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speeding at certain rate.
When you're in the flow,people know that everyone
will not be fined.
So, they're willingly,willingly breaking the law and
doing this altogether withoutfearing any repercussions
or something like that.
When Egon Cholakian appealedto everyone regarding the
real causes of the climatedisasters and the prospects
of not doing anything, peopleare somehow not interested.
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They're not interested, andthey're afraid to even talk
to their friends about it.
What is this thing thatmakes them hope or think
that this will go away?
That somehow it'll calm down.
It would be okay tothink like this if there
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were no progression.
There is no regression.
It's always going up and up,and yet we have this resistance
from the general populationregarding the obvious reality.
The obvious reality,the facts that they see
just in front of them.
And this is crazy for me.
(14:25):
Yeah.
What do you think?
Taliy (14:27):
It's actually a very good example when people
decide to exceed the speedlimit, but to keep everyone
safe, everyone is drivingwith kind of the same speed.
That's happeningwithin sane limit.
So people would not startspeeding out of control,
but they keep it safe, butreasonable, maybe a little
bit over the speed limitbut still, majority of
people can self-regulate.
(14:47):
So it's a basic exampleof self-governance, right?
People can self-govern onthe road with exception
of those like 0.0% who'sgoing to endanger other
people's lives, right?
So for those cases, somebodyhas to step in and for the
safety of the majority,prevent extreme edge cases.
(15:09):
That's something that basicallyRonald Reagan has been
talking about in his speechesabout the Creative Society
when he was inaugurated.
He said, you know, for thosewho think that people are not
able to govern themselves, thenI would like to ask you, if you
deny human ability to governitself, how do you think that
any of this population wouldbe able to govern the others?
(15:32):
And no one could answerthat, you know, because
that's truly so.
We've discussed this actuallya while ago when a strike
in Spain was regardingthe prices on electricity.
When people decided toswitch off the electricity
simultaneously, that leadsto certain consequences where
prices went down by very little.
(15:53):
What is interesting here thatthe power of a strike, of
going on a strike has beenbasic people right, and human
ability to actually fight fortheir rights for a long time.
But it seems like we forgotabout these things that how
much power people have withsimply going on strikes and
with union, at some pointunions lost its ability to
(16:16):
fight for human rights, andit became just another add-on
to all this commercialism inwhich each worker in that union
only cares about making money.
And they taking donationsfrom the employees of the
certain sphere, and theylive off those donations.
So the only thing they careabout in unions today is
not fighting for the rightsof the workers, but to keep
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collecting money and being paidthemselves because, for them,
that's just a job that they do.
When people finally starttalking about strikes on
TikTok, a few weeks ago,calling for a national strike
all over US and even aroundthe world on September 1st, I
was like, wow, it's first timein decades that I'm hearing
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from somebody going on strikeother than some airline in
Italy, because on news theygo on strike all the time,
but it's actually interesting.
People started in America in theUS talking about these things.
And if you watch those TikToks,what people talking about,
they showing the graphs of thereal estate prices rise and the
rise of salaries, and they'reshowing that real estate went
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up 20 times, salary went uponly six times since 1970s.
So there is no way youcan afford the house.
Like having house is somethingthat you can forget about.
Your kids will never have ahouse, you will never have
a house, and most likely youwill lose ability to pay even
for your rental very soon.
Many people say so, theones who say that, you know,
(17:44):
I'm ahead of this strike.
I've been without a job forsix months and living on
my last paycheck right now.
So people really frustratedwith this economical system.
But there is no solution.
Like if you really listen toall these people, they all
calling for different things.
So each one of them, oneguy says, let's withdraw
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all the money fromour checking accounts.
Another guy says, let'sjust simply not go to work.
And he doesn't evenhave a work to go to.
On the other hand, initially itwas all initiated by SAG actors
actors Guild of Hollywood.
All the people who losttheir jobs by being replaced
by artificial intelligence.
(18:26):
You know, they don't needbackground actors anymore.
They simply paint them withdesign programs on the computer.
We've been talking aboutthis two years ago.
How come they were saying,oh guys, you must be kidding.
This is not gonna happenwithin 20 years, 30 years.
Technology is not gonnadevelop that fast.
Now that it already happenedand we've been forecasting it.
(18:48):
It's not prediction.
We're not using crystal ball.
It's just ability to add twoplus two, which simply became
a rare thing, obviously.
We forecasted this, we dida pretty exact estimation
within the timeframe.
And now people want to,you know, pretend like
it never happened, like,because millions of people
(19:08):
watched that conferencecalled "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone".
Where are those people?
Why no one is saying, heyguys, there were actually
this group of people two yearsago who were trying to warn
us, but we were silent anddumb and we did not share it.
And we just were thinking,they're kidding over there.
Nobody wants to embarrassthemselves like that.
(19:30):
People having a hard timerealizing that, yeah, they
were right and I was wrong.
I was wrong about subscribingto the podcast of a guy
who was teaching me how toinvest in cryptocurrencies.
They were all, thecryptocurrencies disappearing
one after another.
And, but they would ratherbelieve this is something kind
of phenomenon when people liketo get tricked by the very same
(19:54):
scheme again and again, butwhen they're being told truthful
facts and actually the solutionbecause Creative Society
is not calling for a strikeor some actions like that.
It's up to people todecide which way they
want to implement it.
But we have a frameworkwhich guarantees you safety,
prosperity, and freedom,which is very important.
(20:16):
This is something thatthose all, again, all the
haters who bombarding uswith hatred and comments,
they say, oh, you're gonnagive us the UBI, but you're
gonna take away our freedom.
No, guys, you keep thefreedom plus you get UBI.
That's the deal that issomething that people having
hard time to accept and that,you know, you're not giving up
anything except the shacklesof consumerism on your hands.
(20:40):
And actually as consumers,you're gonna receive more.
Your life as a consumeralso increases, but the
format itself is changing.
No, people don't want that.
People want to believethat something's gonna get
better once this governorof Hawaii will be from a
different political party.
People trying to make itabout political changes, they
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believe that UBI can only beintroduced by evil globalists.
That people who follow Jesusnot supposed to take UBI, people
who vote for Trump, they'renot supposed to take UBI.
Guys, AI does not carewhat's your political
affiliation or what kind ofreligious books you read.
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AI will replace everyone.
Years ago I used to talk topeople who spent a lot of
money, they took student loansto get a lawyer's degree.
And then eventually theirlawyer's jobs were not that
fancy, maybe few lawyersmaking millions of dollars,
but most of lawyers gettinglike whatever salary, but
the student loan is huge.
When I was talking to lawyers,it was in Los Angeles, they
(21:43):
were saying, you know, I'mlucky that I even have a
job like that because manyof my colleagues graduated
from university, but some ofthem did not even get a job.
And I was like, but hold on,they have a huge student loan.
And I was like, yeah, theywent to Starbucks kind
of a job making lattes,you know, to survive.
And that was their plan B.
(22:04):
That was always like,maybe not plan B, plan
C, plan D, whatever.
But that was the backup plan.
But today, all the jobs, likethey used to call them mag jobs,
then it became barista jobs,they are all easily automated.
What's gonna beyour backup plan?
There is no backup plan.
Cryptocurrencies will be gone ina blink of an eye, the digital
(22:24):
currency of the future willbe, but it'll be controlled by
government, if we do nothing.
And what you gonna do then?
Then it's gonna be 15 minutecities and then all your
fears will become true exceptfor one they will not stop
the climate weapon becausethere is no climate weapon.
That's the thing you having ahard time conveying to people
(22:46):
that there is no climateweapon, these kind of things,
it would be great if somebodycould just press a button
and stop, but when you startbreaking up these facts because
they're too absurd, whenyou seeing them saying that
it's Chinese space lasers andChina is going underwater at
the same time, are you evencapable of adding two plus two?
Come on.
Half of the world is flooding.
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In Islamic world, they say ifGod's will, if God's will, then
we all gonna survive, or if Goddoesn't will, then we will not.
Well, Mecca was struck bylightnings like never before.
The hurricane was takingpeople away from that holy
praying place around Kaaba.
They were simply blown by thewind, and hailstorm and floods
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all over the peninsula, at thesame time heat waves and so on.
Is that what God willsor is that our ignorance?
Alexey, what are yourthoughts about it?
And I know you have manyconnections in that region.
What do people see?
Alexey (23:45):
First I would like to tell, you mentioned two
episodes from last year.
And this is great.
I mean, I prefer thesethings were not right.
Let's stress this once again.
But the first one when theSpanish guys went on strike
regarding the increasein electricity prices.
this was the episode fromJune 12th, 2022 "Accidental
(24:08):
voting mechanism".
We'll link to itin the show notes.
And the second one was "Netzero ability to pay your
bills" from October 3rd, 2022.
If you have time and you areinterested you can revisit the
back catalog of the episodesand you will see the things
about which we talked a yearago and what is happening right
(24:31):
now just to make two and twotogether and this can help.
Now, back to Mecca.
I think guys they knew aboutthe prophecies because they are
studying the Koran, and theyknow, not know, but they, they
believe that nothing will putin danger their sacred places.
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Well, this was not the case.
Everyone have seen the theguys struggling to keep up
with the wind and the benchesflying around, and things like
that just around the Kaaba.
What we see is againthis willful, selective
blindness to the facts.
We already have seen theimages of the deserts that
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really started to bloomand became green, covered
with lush grasslands.
You could really thinkthis is somewhere in
Northern California.
But no, it is Saudi Arabia.
The problem with everythingthat we are seeing, people
are still making plans on thefuture that they want to be
(25:37):
a hundred percent free fromfossil fuel energy by 2050.
But guys, with this progression,there will be no 2050.
This is what weneed to understand.
Why is the increasing forceof the winds so important,
especially in placeslike the Middle East.
If we think about it, thesand that's everywhere.
(25:59):
Some time ago thissand was something.
It didn't come out of nowhere.
Everything was destroyed tothis point that it became sand.
But now then we have these areasand the increasing speeds of
the wind, like on the imageswe'll link to these in the show
notes, what happened in Mecca.
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What is coming next, issuper mega typhoons with
wind speeds exceeding500 kilometers per hour.
And what these winds docombined with the sand, it's
like the sand blasting machine.
We have all seen what this does,it really erases everything.
(26:42):
This is when even the mountainswill be sand blasted to nothing.
And this is important tounderstand that it's not only
happening to this region,but these things will happen
progressively over and overbecause wind doesn't have
a strict barrier and itblows here and not there.
(27:06):
What we have seen, and youmentioned again the hockey
stick graph, but what doesn'tneed to be faked is the
rise of ocean's temperature.
We talked about the reasonswhy it is not fulfilling
its purpose being the airconditioner of this planet.
It's because we polluted,we destroyed the ecology, we
(27:27):
polluted it with microplastics.
And the problem being that oncethe ocean is not cooling off,
and why it's not also coolingoff, it's because it's heated
from the bottom by the risingmagma plumes under the ocean.
It's like we have thispot with the water
(27:48):
that's being heated up.
And what it does, itreleases more and more water
vapor in the atmosphere.
And when we have a lot ofwater vapor, this buildup
of water in the atmosphere.
Then with rapid changeswith cold and hot fronts
that are meeting together.
(28:10):
And this is where wesee hailstorms, hail
the size of football.
Why?
Well, because when you have arapid cooling of water mass,
you have ice that's formingat these high altitudes.
But there are solutions to this.
when we have abundant watervapor in the atmosphere,
(28:31):
we can extract this watereven in the desert, we don't
need to take water from theocean and desalinate it.
What we can do isextract it from the air.
There are many devices alreadythat exist and for example, if
you have a copper grid, finecopper grid, you need to put
some current on it and thenit can accumulate up to three
(28:52):
tons of water just duringthe night, well, depending
on the surface, but in thearid desert, it can do it.
What this will do?
When we are not taking waterfrom the ocean, from the
lakes, from rivers, or fromunderground, but we are
taking this evaporated waterthat came from the ocean
(29:15):
with microplastics in it,because they're so small,
they're smaller than eventhe dust, these devices, they
will have some byproducts.
And these byproductswill be the pollutants
including microplastics.
So water is cleaned likemore than 90%, about 95%
from all the pollutants.
It really becomes clean.
So we can have clean watereven there where we currently
(29:37):
don't have drinking water.
At the same time we willbe cleaning the ocean from
microplastics and give itscooling capabilities back.
We can do this already.
And these are also thesolutions that Egon was talking
about, that we need to do thedegassing of the volcanoes.
(29:58):
Because we have the volcanoproblem everywhere as well.
There are solutions.
I think this is Egon'sspecialty, the volcanoes and how
we can alleviate the pressureunder the tectonic plates that
we can be doing some drillingand deep underground explosions,
but controlled, and at certainplaces, that will alleviate the
(30:21):
pressure on the tectonic plates.
Like this, we will bedoing these preventive
measures so that we don'thave earthquakes, we don't
have volcano, eruptions.
People are not listening.
And we can forecast this aswell, that once everyone will
understand, because at somepoint in time the situation
(30:42):
will be so bad that peoplewill not be able to tell, oh,
nothing is happening, becausethis will affect everyone.
At this point in time, theywill blame people like us
telling but why didn't youfind the necessary words
to tell us these things?
Why didn't you do?
(31:03):
As we know, this habit ofputting the responsibility on
someone else and then blamingthis person, this is so deep
inside of our civilization.
It lives so deep inside ofevery one of us that in order
to overcome this, you needto see that you have this
disease, and then you canwillfully go the other way.
(31:27):
You can take the responsibilityfor your life, for the life
of your loved ones in yourhands and then move forward.
But before this happens,I'm afraid that a lot
of people will suffer.
And this is not an uncertainty.
This is certain.
It just that once everythingis looking not so bad outside
(31:47):
our window, our consciousnesshas this defect, I would
call it like this that itsays, oh, okay, you know,
what are you talking about?
Well, the sun is shining,or right now it's misty,
nothing really is happening.
And it was hot.
Now it's raining, soeverything is fine.
Well, the problem is that itwas abnormally hot, breaking
(32:08):
every previous record, notonly for this month, but in
general for the country, forall the period of observations.
And then it was rainingso hard that it broke
also, all the records.
And when you have every othernews we are getting is another
record breaking something.
(32:30):
how obstinate should you be?
How willingly blind you wannabe to say, oh, but, you know,
these things really happenedbefore, when your lifespan
on this planet is maybeseveral decades, not longer.
We need to fight this diseasebefore it is too late, actually,
(32:54):
before it is too late, weneed to fight this disease.
And just going back to yourquestion of how are people
doing in the Emirates.
As everywhere else, buildingplans, worrying about Bitcoin
going down bringing kidsto school, and just going
about their lives as usual.
(33:15):
Plus 47, end of August,how great is that?
Oh, but it was before, and it'sa country in the Middle East.
It should be normal.
No guys, it's not normal.
It is not normal.
And we have to reallycollectively get rid of
(33:36):
this disease of willful,selective blindness.
This is something thatwe need to go through
together as a civilization.
Otherwise, there isno more civilization.
Taliy (33:52):
Absolutely.
And what we have beenseeing with the Arabic
world, the very same thing.
They building plans.
They hoping for theBitcoin to go up.
They're only willingto take advices.
Again, from what we startedin the very beginning.
Your podcast is gonna besuccessful if you are gonna
teach people how to makemoney and drive fancy cars.
Andrew Tate is anexample of that.
(34:13):
Who would listen toAndrew Tate if he wasn't
driving his Bugatti.
And he only got his Bugattibecause his followers donated
him money one way or anotherthrough the Hustlers University.
He became a Muslim and then,Candice Owens this very
intelligent indeed lady came toRomania to take an interview.
And she's saying, you know,we feel very sorry that you're
(34:36):
not Christian anymore and wecannot use you as an example for
Christians in the United States.
I'm watching it.
I'm just thinking whatkind of ignorance, right?
And we're thinking she'sa smart person, but how
ignorant you have to be tosay these kind of things.
And we're looking at Tate andhe's just blinking like a fish.
Like he doesn't understandthat being a Muslim does not
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mean denying Christianity.
It's in the core, the messageof Prophet Muhammad, peace
be upon him, was the verysame that the message of the
prophet of Christianity, whothey're gonna yell, he wasn't
a prophet, he was son of aGod with hatred to anyone who
would say otherwise, but theymissing the very key point
that the will was shown throughactions of Prophet Muhammad,
(35:19):
the way he behaved, the wayhe made you know, interactions
with people of other faith.
The Medina agreement was thewilling of God how people
supposed to live on Earth.
That's the way we should treateach other, but we denied
it instead of, you know,instead of signing Medina
agreements with one another.
There started wars withfirst Iran than Osman, well
(35:43):
before the Osman Empirethere was Byzantian Empire.
It was conquered asa result of a war.
But then many people thinkit was success for Islam,
that Islam spread that way.
It was a collapse of ofthe whole idea of peaceful
unification of the world.
And I would liketo stress that out.
That many people who studyIslam, they pointed out
(36:04):
that Islam had much betterchance of becoming a
unification in peaceful way.
And the example of that isthe biggest Muslim country
in the world, Indonesia, itbecame Muslim not as a result
of military actions, butbecause people saw the benefits
of Islam in a peaceful way.
And that's something that'sbeen denied by the people
(36:26):
all over the world thattoday we could actually
sign the Medina agreement.
Because Creative Society, eightpillars of the Creative Society
represents the very same thing.
It is actually the Medinaagreement of today.
But for some reason, it'sbeing ignored by the people
we're seeing that is, it's beenignored by the Arabic world,
(36:47):
by the people who Prophet hadhopes for, and even people
who popularizing those valuesamong Western world, like
Andrew Tate, they do not evengrasp the idea of unification
of people as the only way toovercome extreme climate change.
In fact, if you subscribeto the political party that
(37:08):
prioritizes Christianity orsome religious values, you
have to deny climate change.
Excuse me guys.
Have you ever read your ownBible, anything about the floods
you can recall over there?
I would like to point outto you that those stories
about great floods didnot appear from nowhere.
With the participantsof Creative Society and
(37:29):
AllatRa International PublicMovement, we've made a lot
of research on that topic.
There are whole Kaleidoscope ofFacts episodes in which there
is analysis of each scriptureand histories about great
flood in 140 plus differentcultures around the globe.
That wasn't a fairytale.
It was something thatactually happened.
(37:51):
Anyone who has access toNetflix can turn on the Ancient
Apocalypse eight episode filmof Graham Hancock on Netflix
and just watch that it'sscientifically proven that
there are pyramids, greatpyramids of 12,000 years
old and 24,000 years old.
So people were building themat the time of the cyclical
(38:13):
great cataclysms to avoidthem and through Kaleidoscope
of Facts, you can find outhow exactly the pyramids
were used by those culturesto avoid the consequences,
undesirable consequences.
And it is no secret thatthere have been those ancient
civilization because too muchevidence is there, no matter how
the official science was tryingto hide them in their museums
(38:36):
and sometimes even destroy.
Somehow, as we see, everytime something is happening,
like ISIS or whatever, thefirst thing they destroyed
is historical evidence.
Why?
Why would they destroythe Lion of Al-lāt?
The very same thing.
They want to destroy thewhole historical evidence
about the fact that humanityused to live another way.
We used to be unified andfirst 6,000 years of this
(39:01):
new age were spent in acompletely different format.
But again, for the first timein history because of human
greed and desire to controlpopulation, about a hundred
years ago, we went intousing fossil fuels instead of
fuel free energy generators.
Every single time priorto that civilization would
(39:23):
develop to a certain stageof scientific progress.
They would use FFGsbecause it is natural.
And we were there.
A hundred years ago, wewere right at the brink
of developing new sourceof energy for everyone.
But then how wouldyou be controlled?
How would you becharged for electricity?
How would you becharged for gasoline?
(39:45):
How the, it was just used bythe elites and you can see who
exactly was standing for abandonall the scientific research of
Nikola Tesla and many peoplebefore him and after him.
So there is a lot of evidenceand just putting all of
these pieces of puzzletogether was something that
Creative Society and AllatRaInternational Public Movement
(40:06):
have been doing for a while.
But you see whatwe got for that?
There was no supportfrom the people.
In fact AllatRa wasbanned in Russia recently.
We were smeared, all ofus, but in Russia, it
was officially banned.
Now we have a huge blankspot on the map of the world.
The whole Russian Federationis excluded from scientific
research in climate field.
(40:28):
It became North Korea numbertwo, just a much larger one.
And that threatens the wholedevelopment of solution
when it comes to response toextreme climatic events that
are occurring more and more.
And you know what Egon Cholakianwas talking about the fact
that volcanoes can be treated,that you know, it's not just a
(40:50):
question of national security.
When we met Egon in WashingtonDC we were presenting
a scientific report.
Of course in a form that'sunderstandable for the general
population about climate.
It was recently after the lastyear's conference, international
online forum, "Global Crisis.
(41:11):
Our Survival is in Unity".
And Egon was one of the fewpeople who actually understood,
he grasped the idea and hisresponse to us was, you know,
most of the people in thatroom, they couldn't even
understand you because eventhe language you speak is
not part of their vocabulary.
In case of what you are talkingabout, there is not even a
(41:33):
vocabulary because climatechange does not associate in
minds of most of the generalpopulation with the things
that you're talking about.
When you bring up climatechange, people instantly
think CO2, taxation and globalwarming, and Greta Thunberg.
People don't understandwhat Egon Cholakian
has been talking about.
(41:54):
Well, it takes certain time,dedication to actually watch
at least half an hour of hisaddress to understand that he's
talking about the processesinside of the planet that
have nothing to do with CO2.
It takes time to understandwhat Creative Society have
been talking about, butunfortunately, people are
not willing to actuallydedicate that much time.
(42:15):
You know, 12 hours thatcould save your life.
I wouldn't think it's too much.
People dedicate much moretime to watching Netflix,
but unfortunately the Barbieish TV shows and so on.
How come that thing is trendingso much, but Ancient Apocalypse
by Graham Hancock, that couldactually enlighten you, is
a sensation, but only withinthe field of, you know, field
(42:39):
of people who interestedin those kind of things.
Little bit moreopen-minded people.
General population forsome reason think it
would not affect them.
For them it's a shockthat people from first
world countries becomingclimate refugees.
I still remember that eyewitness from Germany who said,
we were so shocked that theflood happened in Germany.
(43:01):
It's supposed to happen onlyin third world countries.
In her imagination, it's alegitimate picture that there
is no big, if there's anotherflood somewhere in Pakistan,
that's fine, but not in Germany.
Well now we will see howpeople from first world
countries will have tomigrate to those countries
which have been conqueredby their elites a while ago.
(43:25):
And the countries which havevirtually no infrastructure.
The very same countriesin which there is no
access to even water.
And people from developedcountries who made all
their wealth on stealingand the natural resources
from Third World, they willhave to migrate, running
away, escaping from climateCerberus, from climate threat.
(43:48):
They will have to escapeto those countries.
And let's see howinfrastructure is gonna
be there, it's not ready.
And let's see what's gonnahappen to even population of
Arabic Peninsula, which youknow, it's super wealthy.
They have skyscrapers, butbuilt in a place which,
which will collapse.
So it's stupid wasteof resources, but
(44:10):
unfortunately, our messageis still not being heard.
So guys, if you have any ideasregarding how to reach out to
the people and let our messagebe heard, write in the comment
section below because we thinkwe tried all possible ways.
Maybe you can come up with abetter solution for people not
to blame us, that we didn't usethe correct method of conveying
(44:32):
the information to them.
As Alex said, we mightbe the one blamed for not
conveying this informationin the best possible way.
So let us know what isthe best possible way.
And what is your creative idea?
Ask ChatGPT, how wouldyou inform the world if
you were in our shoes?
Well, we've seen this with youknow, "Don't Look Up" movie.
And I love the analogy whenAlex said, we live in don't
(44:55):
look down movie, because peopletrying to avoid seeing the true.
natural reasons for theclimatic events, and it's all
happening from underneath.
It's all happening from heatingup of the planet and anomalous
hurricanes, we had two of themthis month, Dora and Hillary.
And guys, it's not eventhe hurricane season yet.
(45:16):
So how do you even convey thismessage that this is not normal?
The hurricane season havenot even started this.
And again, what Alex said,the speed of wind is already
exceeding all the limits,but when it's gonna go beyond
500 per hour, it's gonna bea completely different story.
That is not abnormal.
There have been hurricaneswith higher speed, but
(45:37):
they were absolutelyanomalous in the past.
And right now it's becomingnew normal when you know the
lightning thunderstorms strikingMidwest few times a week.
With the sky lit up like it'sdaytime, few times every second.
There are no lightnings, thereare no light storms like that
(45:58):
ever in even in memory of thepeople who live in this area.
And you can go on TikTok,you can watch the guy filming
this over the lake Erie, andhe says, this is something
I've never seen before.
I hope we're gonna downloadthat footage because in
case it might be erased.
So is a lot of stuffthat is being erased from
the internet right now.
(46:19):
It might be gone forever, butlet's download the footage,
let's comment on this and let'sbring up people's awareness
about the Creative Society.
And we're looking for the ideasfrom you, our dear listeners.
Few of you.
We don't have millionsof listeners yet.
In fact you know what saved thispodcast, Alexey might emphasize
on this, but what saved ourpodcast last year is when we
(46:42):
were super frustrated with thesmall amount of use on each
platform, but when we checkedthe combined numbers, it was
a quite significant number.
So it made us believe that thisis actually something worth
our attention and time, becauseacross all platforms it's a
very significant amount of use.
So guys, it might seem likeit's a little bit of difference
(47:04):
here and there, but in generalit might be a bigger impact
that we simply not seeing.
So that gives us hopein a brighter future.
But all it takes is for youto join and speak up with us.
Alexey (47:17):
When we started looking at the numbers of
the podcast last year and wedecided to continue was the
combined number of reachedpeople, reached accounts
across all social platforms.
And it is the same habit ofour consciousness when it
comes to climate change oranything else for that matter
(47:39):
is that, it gives us some sortof information but not facts.
It gives us conclusions basedon other conclusions or based
on information taken out ofcontext and makes us think
that, oh, things are really bad.
(48:00):
No one is listeningto your podcast.
No one is watching your YouTubeshorts or Instagram posts when
in fact when you calculate,things are not the same.
The same happeningwith climate as well.
Oh, it's not that dramatic.
But yes it is.
When you put together allnumbers, it is dramatic.
(48:23):
It is getting worse, and it isgetting worse while we speak.
I would say that we needto eradicate this nefarious
habit of our consciousness tofantasize and make up things
and teach it to go reallydeep to make our own research
(48:43):
before concluding anything.
And when we get to the rootcause, or really go deep
into the understanding ofany topic, when we have the
facts, when we operate with thefacts, then we can understand
what is really happening.
I have never seen anyonewho really put in their time
(49:06):
and effort and not gettingto understand something.
It is really important rightnow for us as humanity to get to
these understandings together,but not just go and jump on
any theory that's popping upsomewhere on social media that,
oh, it's another weapon, oh,it's another I don't know what,
(49:28):
it's another conspiracy theory.
You don't need to be aconspiracy theorist when
you have the facts andthe facts are there.
The facts areoutside your window.
You don't need any other facts.
If you just make yourown observation table of
temperatures, of wind speeds,of rainfall and other events
(49:53):
in your area, you will alsosee how things are changing.
But even besides this, theidea that someone is tweaking
the climate or playing God bycausing these catastrophes.
Someone from anothercountry, or maybe aliens,
(50:14):
there are many theories.
The thing is that whywould they, no really,
what is the point?
What is the point ofdoing this to the planet?
They live on the same planet.
They have relatives.
They are the ones whoactually are suffering
from the same things.
Their factories arebeing burned as well.
(50:35):
Their planes arefalling down as well.
We are keen on jumpingon these theories and
this really goes viral.
Like, oh my God, look atthese blue houses or whatever.
When everyone is jumpingon this idea, we need
to also understand why.
From my observation, only reallystupid ideas gain this much
(51:00):
traction from everyone around.
Will we grow up in time toprevent what is happening?
Will we be able to overcomeour differences that are
also being put in us byconsciousness that says that,
oh, this person is differentbecause as you mentioned now we
(51:21):
cannot use Andrew Tate becausehe's no longer Christian.
You shouldn't useTate as a role model.
This is one thing.
I can anticipate some hatefrom people regarding this.
But guys I'm subscribed tohis newsletter and I'm reading
what he is dropping every day.
If everything that you areinterested in is money and
(51:44):
domination over others, well youare at the right place, because
he will teach you these things.
And the problem is thatmoney became our God.
This is the problemthat our God is money.
People preaching in thechurch are also subject
to the same God - money.
(52:04):
And when we think thatto save our humanity,
what we lack is money.
Money that we invented,money that we are printing
at will when some peoplethink it is necessary,
and we are not using it tosave our lives, can we call
ourselves intelligent beings?
(52:25):
Maybe not.
But I would really wantfor everyone to think about
these things and go throughthe facts, make your own
picture of the world andchoose your place in this
world, where you want to be?
Do you really think that makingplans for the future when
(52:46):
these things are happeningis more worth of your time?
Or maybe it's worth investing alittle bit of your time to first
understand what is happeningand then spread the message
around you in a way that peoplelisten to you and understand
what you're talking about.
It would be great becausethis is what we need.
(53:07):
We need to invest our timeand attention into solving the
problem that we all are having.
This is a great point tounite on really because what's
more beautiful than savinglife and saving our planet?
I don't see anything elsethat could be more noble, more
(53:28):
beautiful, and worthy of a humanbeing than saving the lives
of everyone on this planet.
Taliy (53:37):
Yeah, that's a great ideology to subscribe to instead
of dividing people actuallyfinding a common ground.
Again, coming back to what westarted from Egon Cholakian
started from the fact thatscience can save our planet.
And then in his secondaddress, he said, we
need for that politiciansto sign the agreements.
(53:57):
And guys, politicians willnot sign the agreements.
Also what Egon said, mass mediashould support this message,
and we've seen mass media didnot support because they only
care about what's being paidfor, they will not publish the
news about Egon Cholakian'saddress unless they're being
paid or ordered to do so by theowners of the media outlets.
(54:18):
And those owners are too busyplaying the very same game that
everyone else is playing here.
Money and power, which infact is the very same thing.
What is the wayout of this matrix?
It's stepping out of the gameand observing it from the side
and seeing the greater picture.
Like ants in the ant house,fighting for resources and
not seeing that very soona highway will be built
(54:41):
through the forest, takingdown all the ant house with
all the ants and so on.
That's us humanity.
So let's zoom out from theBitcoin currencies, from
political affiliations,from very interesting things
that are happening in thefield of this politician
versus that politician.
People are so excited sharingTrump's mugshots on Twitter.
(55:04):
If only people would besame excited about posting
Egon Cholakian's address, itwould be super beneficial,
but unfortunately we've onlywitnessing that people are
spreading negative messagesmuch faster, and whatever has
to do with taking responsibilityoff our shoulders, because if
it's elites with laser beamstaking down Maui houses to
(55:28):
build up 15 minutes cities inthere, then it's fine, because
it's somebody else is doing,and you can rage about it.
But if it's actually anomalousclimatic event and something was
passing by on a high speed likehurricane Dora and the winds
were taking down power linesand no one was ready for that.
And even police officerscould not take people out
(55:49):
because, power lines blockedthe street, firemen could not
use water because electriclines were down, there was
no electricity at the waterpump, so there was no water.
So it was notsomebody's evil doing.
If you actually watch thephotographs of City of Lahaina,
you can see that houses withblue roofs were burned just
(56:09):
as well as all other houses.
And you can see thewildfires in Greece, you
know they have SantoriniIsland with blue and white.
You think that wouldbe very protected.
But you can see that blueroofs in Greece, in Lahaina,
in Tenerife, and the blue carsare burning just the same way.
And the only house, themiracle house that survived
(56:29):
on Lahaina had a red roof.
Imagine people's insanity ifit actually had blue roof,
people would go crazy, right?
They would say, oh, that'sthe ultimate proof our
Bluebeam theory is right.
And again, coming back toCandice Owens, she had the whole
episode on Project Bluebeam,so it's coming from nineties.
(56:50):
Bluebeams, you know, UnitedNations have blue helmets,
so they not affected by theseblue beams from the sky.
Guys, when you going down therabbit hole of conspiracies,
it's very easy to get lost.
And this is where you haveto have somebody's checking
upon you, then yes, somebody'sdoing the reality check.
Are you still attachedto the reality?
(57:10):
And if you are checkingthe Kaleidoscope of Facts,
taking it holistically fromthe perspective of what
actually makes sense, whatis attached to reality, and
what is completely absurd.
Something that has beengoing online is the hashtag
#PsyOpMaui and the real psyopwas convincing people that
it's a human manipulated event.
(57:32):
Unfortunately, this was the realpsyop and those people who share
truthful facts as they thinkabout what happened in Maui
are the victims of the psyop.
And this psyop is to switchingresponsibility onto somebody
else's shoulders, whetherit's the governor or local
police administration.
A lot of weird stuffhas happened there.
(57:54):
There was lack of preparation,including the people
themselves who knew thatthe wildfires were going for
days but did not evacuate.
But then what we saw in otherregions of the world that
people acting the same way, andyou cannot call it other way
than pandemic of some kind ofdisease that blocking people's
ability to understand thatthey can easily get caught
(58:17):
on fire as well when filmingfrom the river bank or ocean
shore, hey, the fire is coming,let's take some more videos.
This is the real pandemic.
The pandemic in human minds.
And unfortunately, it takestime to unblock people from
understanding the fact thatit's up to me, you and everyone
hearing this podcast tolet everyone know about it.
(58:38):
This is the real antidote tothe pandemic of idiocracy, of
tremendous lack of productivityfrom the people themselves
because they hoping that it'sgonna be a politician who might
get elected or somebody else, orJesus Christ, they want somebody
to come and do everythingfor them, but they don't want
to do the action themselves.
Please people, start verifyingfacts, take it critically.
(59:01):
Don't take what wesaying here as facts.
Verify it.
Do the fact checking yourself.
I know fact-checker soundsoffensive right now because the
whole concept of fact checkinghas been a huge disgrace.
But we have the ability toactually take critically things
and take all the facts intoaccount, and not only try to
(59:24):
blame somebody for this, butactually take responsibility
for what has happened.
That's unfortunate.
But all of us takeresponsibility for not conveying
this information to others.
We did our best as CreativeSociety, but still we saying
there might be some thingswe could have done better.
Maybe me and Alex shouldhave a side podcast about
(59:45):
Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies,and the way to make money and
decide just to capture yourguys' interest in sharing
information one way or another.
Or let's be sensational fora second and talk about dirty
laundry of this Hollywood staror that one just to capture
your attention and then talkabout really important things.
So, if you know better ways toconvey this information, let us
(01:00:09):
know and we're looking forwardto hearing your feedback.
It's been a great pleasuretalking to you, Alex today.
Alexey (01:00:15):
Yeah, it's been great.
And just one finalword for today.
This is the case where ifyou want to do it good, do
it yourself, really applies.
Going back to the previousepisode when Taliy you said, we
should use our pride to do good.
(01:00:36):
This is the time and placeto use your pride and really
spread this information, findnew ways of reaching other
people and making this worlda livable place because right
now it is becoming unlivable.
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