The future in the rearview mirror

In this episode of The Episodikal Podcast, we embark on a journey through the meteoric rise of AI, revisiting the moment it transitioned from a distant dream to a profound reality.

We delve into AI's impact on creative professions, highlighting its dual role as both an enhancer and a challenge to human creativity. Further, we explore the imperative shift needed to leverage AI against the pressing threats of climate change, advocating for sustainable technology as a scientific priority. Reflecting on the dual-edged nature of AI, this episode serves as a clarion call for collective action and unity in the face of a looming climate apocalypse. Join us in this not just a conversation, but a rally for change, urging all to heed the call and act towards forging a better future.

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Episode Transcript

Alexey (00:02):
Okay guys, we are live again, two months more or less
since we recorded last time.
So it's not for nothingthat, we, called the podcast
Episodikal because it isepisodical . We try to be
as consistent as possible,but life gets in the way.
Nevertheless, it's already 27thepisode that we are recording.

(00:23):
It's been quite some time, butseveral years ago, in July 2021,
during the International onlineconference "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone",we were discussing AI
technologies, and, mostimportantly, how they will
change the landscape for peoplewho work in various industries.

(00:43):
Contrary to popular beliefs,that robots will replace
the menial tasks, we'vebeen talking that guys,
the creative work, creativeworkers, also programmers,
in the first place who willstart losing their jobs.
And this is what we'vebeen seeing increasingly
these last years sincethe conference took place.

(01:06):
We've been exchanging on thistopic with several guys who
participated in the conference.
And what we see, thingsare coming true, what
we've been saying.
I think you maybe Taliy havemore information on this,
given that you have closerties to the Silicon Valley.

Taliy (01:23):
Yes, friends.
So it's definitely a pleasurebeing here with you again.
27th episode.
So we are really, and thanksto Alexey and his involvement,
largely using AI to producethis podcast to cut out
all the unnecessary partsto make it sound smoother.

(01:44):
I know Alexey is using alot of AI tools, and really
being the head of the worldwith predicting these things
in 2021 at "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone."We did not give exact
estimates of the time because,we know that it will take
very short period of time.
What we said is that itwould probably take about a

(02:06):
couple of years to completelyremove all human involvement
in coding process andin production of videos.
And we spoke about big films.
So when last year there was thefirst protests by background
actors in Hollywood who weresaying that we cannot allow this

(02:27):
artificial intelligence to justcreate background actors instead
of real people, this is unfair.
People are going tostay without jobs.
We were looking at it like, wow,we were talking about it, and
nobody wanted to listen to us.
I remember we interviewed peoplewho would brag that we came
out with a, we coined the termgeneral artificial intelligence.

(02:51):
We are the very pioneers of thewhole artificial intelligence.
And they were saying like,guys, what you talking about at
this conference was too much.
It's never gonnahappen this fast.
It sounds like doom and gloom.
It's, it's impossible.
And guys, only three yearslater, Sora with OpenAI already

(03:11):
showing you the quality ofvideo that can still there
are still minor things to befixed, but it's very impressive,
and this is somethingthat you could not expect.
And what we spoke about,that the "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone,"is the exponential growth of AI.
Something that people,even involved in the

(03:32):
field, do not recognize.
That every month, it's doubling.
it's capacity, doubling in size,it's possibilities, and that's
why if you take a year ago,that, video of Will Smith eating
some pasta out of the bowl,that looked ridiculous, that
looked like a very unrealisticvideo, to put it lightly.

(03:53):
But today when you see inthat video of lady, I think
that was one of the videosthey proposed for us to
check out their website.
Lady walking through Tokyo.
And you can see reflections,you can see all the
lights, neon lights, youcan see people around.
Everything looks very realistic,and you could be tricked, if
you don't pay attention tosmall, tiny details, but I

(04:14):
think it's gonna take verylittle amount of time until
we're gonna see the first filmcompletely generated by AI.
And that's very interesting.
They might do some hype onpresenting it as an AI film,
but they also can, just trickus into suggesting this is a
real video and we're not gonnabe able to tell the difference.
And this is, friends, what isreally important to recognize.

(04:37):
These technologies willput Hollywood out of
business very soon.
Again, when we spoke aboutartists, that music industry
will be replaced by AI, thatshows will be generated by AI.
And right now, what is happeningin London, you can see ABBA,
your favorite musiciansfrom the 80s, performing.

(04:59):
It's all sold out.
Yes, it took a lot of moneyto create the show, but
now the show generates twomillion dollars a week, which
is breaking all the records,all the predictions, and
everybody's standing in line toget a show for their artists.
So their artists can performacross the globe, in multiple
places, at the very same time,people know it's AI and people

(05:23):
still stand in line to givehundreds of dollars per ticket.
So this is a new field and weare proud to say we were ahead
of the rest of the world, andprobably a few people were
able to predict this, butnobody said it out loud like
Creative Society did in 2021.

Alexey (05:41):
Also, I've heard a lot of things that
people are raving about AIcreating personalized music.
You tell what kind of musicyou like and the thing
generates music that isreally enjoyable to you
based on your preferences.
And we've been talkingabout this as well, that
we will have music andalso later films created

(06:05):
specifically for each of us.
And this is interesting,exciting and scary at the same
time, because although, theAI can seem to be creating
something new, it doesn't.
Because humans have to createit first, then by combining
different elements of whathumans could create before,

(06:28):
we obtain new results,but it's not dramatically
new or anything like this.
Nevertheless, we still havethis trend that people really
enjoy having AI everywherein their daily lives.
And as you said, producingthese podcasts without AI,

(06:48):
when we just started, therewas not a lot of things
available to do it, but,right now, really the time to
produce the episode is reduceddramatically using AI tools.
And of course, we could do evenless work because right now you
have, even on the riverside,we are using to record this.

(07:09):
More or less they have one clickexport that reduces silences
and generates the video.
What we are using, for example,I can tell that we use AI
to reduce echoes, to removenoises from the recording.
So we don't have to bein acoustically treated
rooms all the time.
So we can record anywherewithout spending time

(07:31):
to sound treat the room.
Then we are using AI to removerepeated words or, weasel words.
This is already a big changein how we did, because the
first episodes really, I hadto cut everything by hand.
Now, AI can highlight for methings that basically are not
needed, as I said, the repeatedwords and the things that you

(07:55):
wouldn't want in your recording.
And the whole editingprocess is already like
editing a Word document.
Well, with minor differencesthat you still have to correct,
because sometimes it doesnot recognize the end of the
word or something like that.
So you need to drag theboundaries of the word
on the waveform andthen make your edit.
But still, it cut ourproduction time like

(08:18):
maybe by three times.
And what I wanted also to sayabout coding, is that although
many people say that, forexample, GitHub Copilot, it's
like a glorified autocomplete.
Still, I think that wehave to remember that AI
is constantly learning.
It's constantly improving.

(08:40):
It's not like us humans,we work a little bit.
We need to have some rest.
We are bored or for example,we want to change what
we are doing, and we arenot constantly improving.
AI is not sleeping, it isimproving all the time.
And this means that the growthis exponential and what we
cannot see today, for example,of course, we are not yet seeing

(09:05):
AI that just by you explainingwhat you want, creates a
complete working software.
Not yet, but it is alreadyannounced, if I'm not mistaken,
by OpenAI, that they will soonbe launching a new model that
will basically take your voiceinput, you would tell what you

(09:27):
want to see in your application,what it has to be able to do,
and the AI will create a workingpiece of software for you.
And this is crazy because evenright now, I've been working
with some graphs recently.
These graphs were taken from awebsite and, not all the values,
for example, for columns weregiven, just several of them.

(09:50):
But I wanted to make moredetailed analysis, so I fed
the image to ChatGPT and Iexplained what I wanted it to
do, that I need to measure theheight of the columns, given
that the highest column inthis array is to the right and
its value is, let's say, 600.

(10:11):
And by visual analysis,ChatGPT could extract the
exact values of each column.
Then, I gave the chat which kindof function for extrapolation
I would like to use.
And it built me a graphcontinuing with the
data from the image thatit was fed previously.

(10:33):
And imagine that for us todo this kind of thing, we
would need to take a ruler andmeasure and note everything
down on a piece of paper,then compare the lengths
and divide just to obtain areasonably correct number of
the height of each column.
CharGPT is alreadyseeing these things.

(10:54):
What was the most interesting,it shows you the Python code it
generates to analyze the image.
You can see whichlibraries it uses.
You can see the code andit explains every single
line what it was doing.
So, it determinesthe dominant color.
So it's the background.
Then it determined thecolor that the columns

(11:16):
were filled with, and thenit was calculating the
heights of the columns.
It shows you how computervision, not exactly the
full blown computer vision,but how it proceeds with
analyzing the image.
And then you understand that,yes, we are already there that
when you know how to talk tothis AI, and you have to be

(11:37):
really specific if you wantto get good results, but then
it can be a great helPer.
On the contrary, what reallybothers me is that more and
more news about people gettingfired by thousands from IT
companies are getting in.
And this is what we'vebeen talking about.

(11:58):
It's very concerning that witheverything, Google is again
increasing prices for itsservices, yet it fires several
tens of thousands of people.
And I see that, it's notbecause, they are losing money.
They again want more profits.
So we come back to thisidea that the king in

(12:20):
our society is profit.
No one is caring about humanlives as we were promised
before, before the thirdindustrial revolution, that
robots will do everything,will really work less, will
work less days, less hours.
This didn't reallylast long, this period.
We've been talking about thisalso for some time and, yeah.

(12:41):
Have you heard anythingrecently about these things,
maybe from your friendsalso who work in the field?

Taliy (12:46):
Well, you know, in the United States, in the media
field, the biggest scandal wasaround training AI, not just
how the technology develops,but how it's been trained
for Google, for example, whencustomers tried to creating
images using AI, they wouldsee that historical images
would be incorrect, thatpeople would not be able to

(13:07):
see certain skin colors onthe historical pictures, which
really offended a lot of peoplebecause the racial diversity
and inclusion, these policies,really created some sort of
backlash from people who don'tunderstand how, for example,
creating AI images from SecondWorld War with racially diverse

(13:29):
soldiers of German Reich.
How would that be beneficial?
So it doesn't make sense.
And here's another thing.
How would it be trained.
The question is how youtrain AI and why certain
things being used not in theway that we would expect.
On the other thing, that isexactly what we expected,
that these things will betrying to generate more profit

(13:52):
for billionaires, for peoplewho are already in power.
And as we predicted in2021, at "Global Crisis.
This Already AffectsEveryone," they're going to
play for a couple of years,allow producers to play with
their artists and so on.
And then they just gonnatake over the whole thing.
Those who own the technologies,they will replace, we can

(14:13):
already see it in a companyin Silicon Valley that,
I'm working in and in othercompanies, we know that five
years ago, there were a bunchof different tools that were
specific for certain things.
And right now we're seeingthat one company that is highly
invested in OpenAI takingover whole market, everything
becomes a product of thisone company and they generate

(14:37):
exactly the same softwareor sometimes even better
quality than any competitors.
So how can you, how canyou compete with that?
And the prices they offer, theysimply forcing companies to
switch to their suites whichinclude everything from video
calls to libraries to allsorts of things, but it will
be all within this companyand stored on the servers

(14:59):
on the different company andeventually everything most of
the companies using in SiliconValley right now is provided
by two different companies.
So this is the threat thatslowly but surely we're
switching to unified one polarworld where the dominance, the
financial power of one megacorporation becomes enormous.

(15:24):
And the second threat we'vebeen talking about at our
conferences is that all ofthese technologies including
digital currencies, includingeverything, are becoming
very much vulnerable toexternal influence from space.
Because digital society is veryeasy to switch off, very easy

(15:47):
to turn into complete chaos,and we've been talking about
films, the one that Netflixput out a couple of months ago,
where a scenario was presentedwhen the whole United States
simply overnight losing allconnectivity, all service
and things become chaotic.
And folks, people here in theUnited States got alarm when

(16:09):
the whole AT&T service forone of the major cell phone
providers, was switched off.
It was simply not working.
A lot of theories.
The national security agencieswere in a rush to announce
that was not a cyber attack.
There were also some jokessome satire articles came out

(16:30):
saying that AT&T customersunaware of network outage since
they're used to not having cellsignals on their cell phones.
But jokes aside guys, thetrue reason was not announced.
Not everyone said, and noteveryone even knows, that the
third X class solar flare, andX class is the most powerful

(16:52):
solar flare, was released in24 hours that day, and three
solar flares is abnormal.
The amount of solarradiation that came to
Earth was record breaking.
The problem is that, sofar, we have nothing, we
have no means to protectourselves from these things.

(17:15):
But the most alarmingthing, I would say, that
this was a blank shot.
These release of solar flaresdid not contain the matter,
the solar, hard solar matter,which could destroy our planet,
our magnetic field and so on.
So something abnormaleven there, we seeing like
we got lucky three timesalready in one day in 2024.

(17:37):
And in addition to that,everybody were predicting
that these solar flareswill become at the peak
of their cycle in 2025.
But what we're seeing in realityis that the peak of this cycle
seems to be happening in 2024.
Scientists who are makingtheir prediction models
are really puzzled.
Something doesn't fit in here.

(17:57):
Something caused Sun toactivate much earlier.
And this is where,again, you have to know
what "Global Crisis.
The Responsibility" forum,which information was
presented over there.
Sun, just like any other body ofthe solar system, was charging
with this external cosmic energyfor past decades, and now it

(18:19):
starts releasing this energy.
It took time to get this charge.
But now we're seeingthe consequences.
We're seeing the consequencesof overheating of the core
on our own planet, whereatmospheric rivers become
every week event in California.
California has been bombarded.
California had morerainfall in one month than

(18:43):
in whole previous year.
And this is something thatis not being discussed
widely enough, again.
So people are being distractedby presidential election,
people being distractedby scandals with AI tools,
which, again, politicized.
It's been politicized.
But people are not beingtold the truth about what is
happening with our nature,what are the actual devastating

(19:06):
events that will happen.
And only a few speaking openlythat there is a hundred percent
possibility, hundred percentpossibility that we will be
hit by a solar storm thatwill switch off most of our
electronic devices, and ourmeans of connection will be off.
What our life will be then, andwhat will be the consequences,

(19:28):
so far, very few can say.
But even for a matter ofnational security, when
we're being constantly putinto this negative set of
mind that we have enemiesall over, that we are on the
brink of the nuclear war.
What are the possibilitiesof something really terrible
that can happen in thiskind of circumstances?
I think we needmore public control.

(19:50):
We need more demandfrom public for the
transparency of information.
And this is something we've beenadvocating for years, and yet.
I don't see this criticalpoint where people gonna
wake up, unfortunately,to all of these facts.

Alexey (20:04):
Another thing that, we also talked about is that
all this computing power,it may be used to predict
things like solar flares orclimatic events, because we
already have enough data.
There's plenty of applicationslike Earthquake Pro, Space
Weather, and we've beenmonitoring these things

(20:24):
for quite some time.
And when you see what ishappening all around the planet,
developing AI to generatebeautiful images, or virtual
girlfriends, this is apparentlylike the new fashionable thing.
Yeah, it's nice new AI filtersfor your TikTok or Instagram.

(20:44):
It's really cute, but wehave some things on our hands
that need urgent solving, andwe haven't seen scientists
yet using these new tools,powerful tools that can help
in analyzing all sorts ofdata, making predictions.
We don't see them usingthese technologies to

(21:07):
explain people what ishappening with the planet.
Everyone is already seeing.
I mean, there is nopossibility to deny that
things are changing.
Maybe for some people it'ssomewhere on the other side
of the planet, but when yourfriend's backyard is now
at his neighbor's backyardbecause of the landslide

(21:28):
in California, in LA, youcan't miss these things.
During previous episode,I told you about, my
friend's house being washedaway in the Black Sea.
I don't want again togo into these things.
People can go and watchthe forums, they're
available online.
When we were preparing thisepisode, we were talking about
how AI would change the world,how it's already changing the

(21:51):
arena, but we cannot miss theseimportant things that we've been
talking all along for the pastcouple of years on this podcast.
It doesn't matter whatkind of beautiful images
or films or advertisementsAI can create for you.
If you don't have electricity,it doesn't really matter
because the AI willnot work without power.

(22:11):
And, if your house is nolonger there, AI will be
really the bottom of yourlist of things that are
necessary for your survival.
It's great that we kindof progress somewhere
with the technologies.
But again, these technologiesare used to earn more money
for the people who already haveall the money of this world.

(22:32):
And remember, we talkedduring "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone,"we've been talking that
the competition will bevery fierce between all the
players in the AI field.
And you mentioned this thingthat this company that's really
involved heavily in OpenAI.
We can say it's Microsoft.
it's not a big secret.
We kind of see that Google,who was pioneering, but

(22:56):
it's AI is lagging behind.
And this is where we comeagain to the things that we
told almost three years ago,two and a half years ago,
that people who will have thecompany who will win the AI race
will really rule this world.
And this is what's happeningbecause imagine, for example,

(23:17):
you have your, I don't know,Office 365 subscription and,
it comes with email that's,you can like or not like it,
personal preference, but, theAI tools that will be available
only if you use these servicesfrom Microsoft will make you
decide if you finally stay withGoogle with their crappy AI

(23:41):
that it is right now, or youswitch to Microsoft because
you want, you need these toolsto do your work and to be more
efficient than, for example,your peers in the field.
And we come again to thisrealization that yes, guys,
AI is king, and whoever willrule this space will basically

(24:04):
rule all aspects of our lives.
Well, we haven't seen Applemaking their move yet.
We talked also about this,with you when we talked on the
phone, that I strongly doubtthat they have nothing at all.
Apple, the biggest companyon this planet and the
most advanced, but mostsecretive as well, that they

(24:25):
have nothing besides Sirithat is already available.
Yeah, it's interesting tosee where all this will go,
but, at the same time, wehave to remember and keep in
mind that this will probablynot last long if all that
we run after is money.
This I would say should be themain preoccupation for people

(24:49):
who should be putting out thispopular demand for scientists
to unite and solve the problems.
Each of these companiestrying to win this race,
they could achieve much moreif they worked together.
And at the same time, solvingthe problems that really
matter to every one of us.

(25:10):
Because there is no planet B.
So if there is no planetEarth, then it doesn't matter
who was winning the AI race.

Taliy (25:18):
Yeah, guys, and for those of you who, who think that
everything is going to be allright, because, you know, I came
across a video on TikTok of ladycriticizing Creative Society.
She was saying, you don'thave to do anything.
Why would you listen to theseguys from Creative Society
who say that you have to fightfor your rights and freedoms?
You just have to sit on yourcouch, just, she says, like

(25:39):
I do, and technology willsimply appear in your hands.
Like this cell phone overhere, I didn't have to
do anything, she says.
The technology just appeared,and then you just use it.
She goes, so don't listento Creative Society.
Just sit there, be a couchpotato, and wait until
somebody gonna bring youamazing technologies and
you're just gonna siton the couch and use it.

(26:01):
Be a couch potato, literally.
Hopefully there is a smallpercentage of people illiterate
like that, who think thatsomebody is gonna develop
these technologies to bringthem light, like Prometheus
from the tales, that, thatis gonna take his liver out
and sacrifice himself tobring light to the people.
Unfortunately, thereality is very different.
If we go into the veryorigin of Google, how

(26:23):
did Google originated?
Of course, there is aromantic story that two great
students from Stanford, Larryand emigrant from Russia,
Sergey, they got togetherin a garage and they decided
to change the history.
So they created thissearch engine, which was
funded by DARPA grants.
They received money fromNational Security Agency and CIA

(26:46):
to develop their first project.
And then one year into that,they bought the National
Security Agency satellitesfrom United States to create
Google Maps, which we use.
So, think about it twice.
Who is actually using thesetechnologies, and what are they
used for in the first place?
Is it to make your human lifebetter, or is it to secure

(27:08):
control and military purposes?
And, you know, I was watchingan interview with Governor
Newsom, who is a veryintelligent and very well
spoken gentleman, who definitelyknows a lot about technologies.
And he was in 2013 way beforehe became governor in 2019.
He was at Google space, speakingto an audience, the employees
of Google, and he was veryadvanced with technology.

(27:31):
He had his book written abouttechnology and how it can
be changed, and he createda lot of great examples
as former mayor of SanFrancisco, how it can be used.
He goes well, you know, wecan use these Google Maps,
so where there is a potholein pavement in San Francisco,
you can just come, take apicture of it and send it

(27:53):
using technologies, usingAPIs, open APIs that we use.
You can send it to ourgovernment officials and
they're going to come andfix this pothole right there.
Well, great ideas.
And again, he's verywell spoken gentleman.
The, only thing that tenyears after those speech,
the potholes are stillthere in San Francisco.

(28:14):
But the debate he had withgovernor of Florida a couple of
months ago, governor of Floridapresented a different map, which
was tracked using pictures.
The map of human feces all overSan Francisco, and you can see
dark brown color, light browncolor, all kinds of brown,
like 50 shades of brown, andwhich is showing that the

(28:35):
whole San Francisco is a hugepublic restroom and nobody
cares to even clean it up.
And this is a tragedy that wehave great people who speak
beautiful words, but the realityis going the opposite way.
And we are seeing our bestcities downgrading and
becoming huge disaster.

(28:55):
And then when, I've readthe book, I listened to that
beautiful and well spokengentleman and I decided to
write an email to him to warnhim about things that we've
been predicting and thingsthat he might be not aware
of climate wise, because Ibelieve he cares about people.
I believe he has his vision,which maybe not everyone

(29:15):
understands, but I believehe, like everyone else,
wishes the best for himself.
And he would love to dosomething good for society in
general, so that's why he becamegovernor in the first place.
But turns out heswitched off his email.
It's impossible to write himan email because there was
a scandal more than 10 yearsago when journalists in San

(29:36):
Francisco, in times when hewas mayor of San Francisco,
they used the Transparency ofInformation Act to get hands
on his email exchange withSergey and Larry from Google.
And they posted those emails.
He didn't like thatit's been posted.
So he simply deletedhis email box.
And that is the level ofinvolvement of society

(29:58):
we are seeing right now.
And we're coming from RonaldReagan, who was talking about
government who would listenand execute what people want.
We came to the governmentwhich deletes its email boxes.
The only way toconnect with them.
Now we're talking aboutconnection with people,
like what kind of connectionwe're talking about if the
only way to connect wasemail and now even the email

(30:20):
address is not available.
So If you guys know any ways tocontact governor of California,
please write in the commentsection below because I would
love to inform governmentofficials with all the respect.
It doesn't matter whichpolitical affiliation you are.
And again, there is a lotof political hatred and then
people trying to say that thisguy is bad and I'm so good.

(30:41):
Guys, please, we all knowthat there are no good people
getting that far in politicsbecause politics is set up the
way that if there is a niceperson truly trying to make a
difference and without beingpart of this system, the system
tries to destroy this person.
The system tries to smearcampaign, to label that person

(31:03):
all possible words, to usescandals, including sex scandal,
fraud scandals, anything.
It doesn't matter if it'strue or false, it's, different
scandals which are weseeing, even the next level.
Right now, it comes to the levelwhere the legal suits are being
used as weapon against peoplewho were speaking the truth.

(31:24):
And we can see through thehistory from Julian Assange
case, who was accused forpersonal relations first,
because he was having somepersonal relations and
he was accused falsely.
And then we're seeing thevery same thing happened to
multiple people, multiplejournalists or people who
had large media influence.
They were attacked financially.

(31:46):
All the money weretaken away from them.
They had to file forbankruptcy and that is
the way to shut them down.
They think if we cannotshut them down by damaging
their reputation, we canshut them down by depriving
them of their wealth.
And this becomes, if you see,if you look through all the
cases, this becomes a trend.

(32:06):
So, what is happening here?
We're seeing that there isa game being played by those
who control the media ortry to control the media.
They try to introduce moreand more different legal means
to shut down the freedom.
We know that if you have adifferent point of view on
climate, for example, anyalternative versions are now

(32:27):
called hate speech openly byUnited Nations and bodies of
parliaments and structures ofglobal influence around the
world introducing this legalproposals in which If you're
not supporting the traditionalviews of governments on, for
example, green energy and so on.
And just to give you oneexample, there is a legal

(32:48):
proposal in Canada rightnow that says if you speak
nicely of oil industry,you can get jail time.
And this sounded ridiculous.
But this is unfortunatelyour reality.
We are deprived of our freedoms.
We are being stripped downoff the things that used to
be unquestionable nature ofhuman freedom to speak up

(33:11):
what you feel is freedom.
And on the other side, theysay this is communist country,
this is communist dictatorship.
Guys, this is simpledictatorship, because communism,
at least you were grantedcertain kinds of benefits.
In this field, thereare no benefits.
You're just being stripped ofyour freedoms and the question
when the full dictatorship,full, dictatorship arrives.

(33:35):
I think that is a veryreasonable question.
And the only thing that wecan say, which we've heard
from one of the episodes ofprograms with Igor Mikhailovich

Danilov, where he said (33:46):
" a good thing that this dictatorship
will fortunately not happen,because the climate will
not allow it to happen."And this is one thing that
many people don't understand.
With a devastating climateprogression, this dictatorship
oppression, which risesin the form of deep state

(34:07):
or tech dictatorship,or AI dictatorship, this
will not be allowed tohappen by the climate.
Climate will, unfortunately,either unify humanity
against itself.
So human potential willbe used to unify humanity
and build a better future,defeat the climate threat,

(34:27):
and build a really free andbeautiful society, which
we call Creative Society.
Or we will be united byone grief, along with those
who creating dictatorship,along with those who
are enslaved today.
More than 40 millionpeople are literally
slaves today in the world.
This is bigger thanever in history.

(34:48):
And unfortunately, most ofthe media are silent about it.
Most of the populationdo not care.
Like that lady that says,just be a couch potato,
sit over there, andeverything will be great.
There was a Superbowl justa couple of weeks ago.
There was a Superbowl, thebiggest events, and one of
the commercials was hugefield, bunch of sofas over

(35:10):
there, and people dressedas potatoes sitting on those
sofas in front of their TVs.
And the advertisement was, ourfree TV subscription will be
so great that it will literallyturn you into a couch potato.
It's irony folks, butthis is also our reality.
Please folks, dig alittle bit deeper and go

(35:32):
back to re watching theconference "Global Crisis.
This Already Affects Everyone"because unfortunately this
reality has two differentscenarios of development and
they both have been described.
So it's time to think, timeto stop being a couch potato.

Alexey (35:50):
You know, everything is a tool, and AI is a tool.
A couple of interestingthings in the usage of AI.
One is very creative.
I've seen this video that guyswho are running a company, I
don't exactly remember whatthey are doing, but basically
what they did is that theyconnected their IVR, their
phone support system, toseveral GPTs from ChatGPT.

(36:14):
One was transcribing allthe conversations that
were held by their supportagents with the clients.
It was putting theseconversations in a Google
spreadsheet or Google doc.
The second one was analyzing thetext, for example, which kind
of language they were using.
Did they follow the script thatthe company has developed for

(36:37):
customer support, and basicallygrade the performance of
support agents, how polite theywere, how helpful they were,
and give advices to how theycould improve their support.
So this is very interesting.
And, I would say that maybeGavin Newsom could be using
this kind of, technology, sincehe's getting a lot of emails,

(37:00):
he was getting or could begetting if he reinstated his
mailbox, he could analyze, withthe help of AI, what really
is bothering his citizens themost, and address these issues.
This could be a reallyinteresting way of using
AI in helping people.

(37:22):
For example.
Another thing that I wanted tomention, there was this incident
recently with Air Canada.
They connected again, anLLM, a large language model,
the ChatGPT that they trainspecifically to chat with
the clients on their website.
And, this chatbot actuallyinvented a new policy that

(37:43):
he thought, in quotes, hethought would be useful.
And how things went.
So a, a client, who had abereavement situation, he had
a death in his family and heneeded to get quicker somewhere.
Airlines quite often theyhave a policy that if you
have this kind of thing youcan buy the ticket that's

(38:03):
available, it may be at avery high price, but then you
will get a reimbursement forit or something like this.
On the Air Canada website, hewas talking with the chatbot.
The problem that largelanguage models, they
tend to sound like humans.
Especially when you are chattingwith them, you don't hear
the robotic voice or anythinglike that, because they are

(38:24):
trained on what real peoplewere saying and writing.
He was chatting and he wasasking, look, if I buy this
ticket right now, will Iget a refund and everything?
And, the chatbot created, yes,we do have a policy that, allows
you to book this expensiveticket and get a refund later.
So the guy buys the ticket,he goes about his business
and everything, and then heapplies for a refund and Air

(38:46):
Canada guys they're tellinghim but, we have a corporate
policy and it's nothing likewhat you are telling us.
He said, yeah, but I wastalking with your support agent.
And, the guy is saying, well,it's not a support agent.
It's a chatbot.
They did not want to pay him.
So he took Air Canada tocourt with this and, they were
trying to push the idea thatthey are not liable for the

(39:11):
actions of the chatbot becauseit was acting on its own.
And the judge said, no, no guys.
This will not, go well for you.
He ordered Air Canada topay all the attorney fees
and reimburse this gentlemanfor this ticket as their
chatbot promised to him.
Why I'm bringing this upis that we have this new

(39:32):
toy that is helping, it ishelping, but, who does it help?
Is it really helpingnormal people?
Well, maybe in some tasks , ithelps kids do their homework,
but is it really helping?
Isn't the whole idea ofdoing the homework by
yourself is to train your ownbrain, your consciousness?

(39:55):
But then when we see thatby helping the corporations,
it eliminates a job, becausebefore, a real person
would be replying in thechat box on the website.
Now it's a chatbot.
Yeah, there's plentyof things that could be
said about implementationof AI in our society.

(40:16):
But, what is most importantas with any tool, I would
say is the intention.
If your intention is to improvethe lives of everyone on
this planet, then obviouslythis tool will help you.
The opposite is also true.
That if your intention is tohelp yourself at the expense of

(40:38):
everyone else on this planet,this tool can help you too.
Because it's just a tool,a hammer is just a hammer.
We have to understand thatintention is really everything.
And we've been talking about theintention of helping everyone
realize that things are changingfor every one of us living on
this planet and that we need tourgently unite the scientific

(41:00):
potential, unite also the AIpotential, because when we
even think, you know, about howthings are looking today, we
have all these companies pushinginto different directions.
If they would be going tothe same direction, we would,
as a society, have the bestpossible AI with all the NVIDIA

(41:22):
chips running it locally,for example, if they wanted,
because I think this is whatthey are trying to do right now.
We would have all the bestadvancements made by Google,
by Microsoft, OpenAI,everyone else in the field.
Imagine we would have the bestof everything, but for everyone,
for this, we need to unite.
And this brings back towhat we've been talking

(41:44):
on this podcast for a longtime, that unity wins.
We will not be able toprogress far if we are pushing
into different directions.
Most probably we will evenbe staying at the same spot.
But I'm curious to see whereall these things will go
and how this will affect ourlives, but, also I really

(42:07):
hope that people start wakingup and see that what we are
being let playing with byOpenAI or other companies.
Imagine what iscooking in their labs.
If what they are giving usto play with already creates
super realistic videos, don'tyou think that they could be

(42:29):
creating much more realistic,undistinguishable from reality
videos already in their labs?
We've been talking about thisthat we will arrive to a point
where we will not be able totrust anything that we see
or hear unless we can touchthe person in front of us.

(42:52):
Things already going sidewaysfor many people who fell victims
of fraud of scams using videosand audio generated by AI.
I don't remember if Itold you about this.
There was this HongKong corporation.
A lady, she was invited to acorporate call, a zoom call.

(43:13):
And there were about like 20people or something like that.
There was her superior, thechief financial officer of the
company and everyone like this.
And she was instructed duringa Zoom video call to wire 200
million Hong Kong dollars,it's about 20 million dollars,
to 10 different accounts.

(43:33):
It turned out that amongthese 20 people on the
call, there were only twopersons who were real humans,
herself and her colleague.
All the rest were AI generatedpersonas that the fraudsters,
they grabbed the videos fromthe website of the company,
presentational videos.

(43:54):
They created AI avatars ofeveryone in the company.
And then created this Zoomcall and, basically the
AI avatar of her superiorstold her to wire the money
onto different accounts.
So this is, this isalready happening guys.
And it's not the only mishaplike this that happened.

(44:17):
So we can see thatthis is a tool.
And it can be usedfor good and bad.
And unfortunately, fromwhat we are seeing today,
I think we have more harmfrom these technologies,
for the moment, at least, inhow we are using them today.

Taliy (44:32):
Exactly.
But, without these technologies,we will not be able to overcome
the challenges of upcomingclimatic disasters as well.
We have to understand that.
And, taking even simpleexamples that people
do not realize enough.
Let's go back a century agowhere Los Angeles was bombarded
by large scale floods.

(44:55):
Floods used to happen notas often not every week
like it is happening today.
But there was one once everyother decade kind of thing
and the whole Los Angeles wasflooded and then in 1938 the
government started creating thisconcrete channel, channelizing
the LA river, and now itlooks like you've seen in the

(45:16):
Terminator, it was used for theHollywood movies, you can drive
through it, and usually thereis no water, you can simply
drive through it in a truck ormotorcycle like Schwarzenegger
did with the Terminator movie,and that looked something
like really cool thingfor filming music videos,
films, like endless amountof films were filmed there.

(45:37):
What is happening rightnow is that river is full
to the very top of it.
You can see so many videosof it being simply overflown
and this is insane becauseamount of precipitation 14.
3 inches was in the middleof February and the usual
annual amount is 14.
2 inches of water.

(45:57):
This is crazy.
In six weeks, more waterfell down than in a year.
And this is what weare talking about.
This is an example wheretechnology saves human lives.
Because there is no suchriver in San Diego, for
example, and you're seeingdevastating consequences of it.
You're seeing peoplehaving to climb on the

(46:18):
roofs of their own houses.
Simply to survive, you'reseeing people being taken
away, washed by the water,the cars are being pushed.
Imagine the amount ofpower needed to push
the car like that.
This water has tremendouspower and this water is going
to be one of our enemies.
We're going tohave to battle it.
And this is crazy to see inthe comment sections when

(46:40):
you go into Los AngelesTimes and other newspapers.
People are mad in the commentsection that hey we're not
capturing this water andpreserving it and I'm, just
mind blown like how wouldyou complain about that?
We're not capturing thewater you are still living in
the reality of 10 years agowhere we were having small
amount of precipitation andwe would think how could we

(47:02):
capture that water and use it.
You cannot capturethis amount of water.
This is simply goingto destroy your cities.
This kind of water isalso not a clean water.
It's simply rainfallover the cities infused
with bad chemicals thatyou have to purify.
You cannot simplyuse that water.
You cannot store thiswater for the summertime.
This is really a huge amountof polluted water which

(47:25):
simply flows and good thingit goes into the ocean,
but people complain forthe wrong cause like people
don't understand the reality.
They've been told certainthings for years and years and
they think this is still timeof those times to complain
about the that we're notcapture capturing water like
this is how much people arelacking understanding about
the reality of nowadays.

(47:47):
We need something differentlike that LA river it took 30
years to create that thing.
And now it saves millionsof human lives there and
millions and billionsof dollars in property
that is being preserved.
If it wasn't for that river,the whole city would be
flooded, all your cars wouldbe washed, all your houses,
everything would be destroyed.

(48:08):
Like in many places in SanDiego with the whole water
level was that high thatit damaged everything that
was on the ground levelin basements and the cars
and your bedrooms and yourfloors, everything is damaged.
It's hundred percenttotal for the houses
that have been flooded.
Of course you cannot livein those houses anymore.

(48:28):
It will be mold, it will be,not suitable for living at all.
And nobody seems tocare about these things.
That is what isthe most alarming.
Unless you are directlyaffected by these things.
You live just a hundredmiles away in Los Angeles,
you're gonna be complainingand bickering about the
quality of something else.
You're gonna be complainingabout the completely wrong thing

(48:49):
that we're not capturing water.
This is simply insane and youknow those people who like our
friends in Los Angeles whosebackyards, who had houses on
the hills and whose backyardswere simply washed away.
They just simply experiencedthis landslide where
the whole land simplywent into the neighbors
backyard and neighbor'shouse was below the level.

(49:11):
Or like that housein Dana Point.
Come on guys let's take a lookat the footage from Dana Point.
On Google Maps you can stillfind that house it has a huge
amount of backyard in frontof it so it wasn't built
on the cliff it was builtquite far from the cliff.
And right now you can see thathouse miraculously survived
the landslide so you can seea concrete wall, you can see

(49:35):
it's foundation basicallysticking out of the cliff and
it's on the edge of collapseand that house used to be
worth 13 million dollars.
Now, it's worth nothing.
You're not gonna sell.
Nobody wants to live in a housethat's going to collapse We're
talking about the millionaireor billionaire beach in
Malibu, the very same thing.
The whole thing is goingto be gone you we're
talking about places upnorth the very same thing.

(49:58):
The fanciest places in SantaBarbara are being flooded,
and people do not seem to wantto recognize the challenges
of nowadays and how muchcritical it is to build new
infrastructures, the verysame vertical farms, the very
same generators of energy.
And when we're talking aboutenergy, we still live in a

(50:19):
decade where people complainabout something that is
absolutely irrelevant right now.
At the very same timewhere people still unaware
complaining about the solarpanels and wind turbines,
around the world, there isa whole new infrastructure
is being built silently.
It's happening silent.

(50:39):
You have to specificallyresearch for fuel free
energy generators tofind this infrastructure
to find these devices.
But this is what is happening.
It appears silently withoutthe big coverage in the media.
But it is happening, justlike OpenAI was developing
their AI technologies forover, what, almost a decade

(51:03):
without presence in the media.
This is what is happeningin Kurdistan right now, the
small region on north ofIraq, just to give you one
example, but 400 megawattsstation is being created over
there by German corporationthat does not use fossil
fuels, that use the differentkind of principles, the new

(51:23):
principles of generating energy.
And this is what ishappening simultaneously
in the background.
But guys, shouldn'tthis be something that
has to be discussed?
Because if we have fuelfree energy devices
already available.
Bunch of them were presentedin Switzerland last year and it
was covered by Creative Societyvolunteers who went there,

(51:44):
who did the full coverage, whodid interviews with people.
You have devices inFlorida, that also inventors
have been interviewed.
Those are real devices.
Why it's not being spoken about?
Guys, why not?
If this is themost crucial topic.
Using these technologies, wecould be securing our food
production, using verticalfarming, freeing huge amounts

(52:05):
of land right now, and so on.
This is not being done.
We could build not desalinationplants, again, Governor
Newsom said we're building 20desalination plants right now.
This all is our future.
Guys, our future isatmospheric water generators.
We should be demanding those.
There is no public demand, andtherefore, there is no response

(52:27):
from the governance, and thisis a problem that we are not
articulating our demands.
Therefore, there is no response.
And again, just insteadof being a couch potato,
you have to wake up.
You have to wake up,look around, and stop
waiting for somethingto miraculously change.
Each voice todaycan be amplified.

(52:48):
Each voice can be heard.
Just like over six monthsago when Lahaina was on fire
and we've seen billionairesand multi millionaires
begging peasants for money.
That created a huge backlash.
One lady created this TikTokwhich went viral and have
been seen by millions ofpeople and you know what?
That multi billionaire withover 500 million dollars in

(53:12):
wealth came to Las Vegas andhe was booed by the public.
Public was booing him becausepeople have good memory.
Fortunately, people do rememberwho this so called heroes
glorified by Hollywood areand how little humane left in
people whom we tried to reach.
Again, we've been invitingthem to speak up, to make

(53:34):
a real difference, notto beg people who barely
making ends meet for money.
No, Creative Societyis not interested in
collecting donations inany sort of financial gain.
And that is what's differentabout the thing we're
talking about over here.
We genuinely care aboutpeople, because we are people.

(53:55):
We are people just like you,and we want to live, we want
to survive in this climateapocalypse that is coming
up, that has already started.
The main climatologist of NASA,Gavin Schmidt, openly says we
did not take it into account.
We're seeing the models thatinclude El Nino, unprecedented

(54:15):
warming, and still there issomething that has not been
taken into account, and thissomething, we can tell openly,
this is the heating up ofour planet from the inside.
This is exactly what iscausing the ocean to overheat
and bombard California withunprecedented precipitation
one wave after another.
This is what exactly causingthe tension inside of our planet

(54:37):
to build up and create the risein cataclysms across the globe.
And we are seeing when inKazakhstan, the TV stations
saying there is nothing to worryabout there will be no major
earthquakes and one week afterKazakhstan biggest city Almaty
is being hit by devastatingearthquakes and people simply

(54:59):
have to walk out and shockedfreeze in the middle of the
night and afraid to even returnto their houses and they start
asking why alarms were notsound just when Lahaina was
burning the very same thingno alarm were sound so people
wouldn't know that somethingbad is about to happen.
Yet, in Kazakhstan, theyregistered that earthquake with

(55:19):
epicenter hundreds miles away.
They could switch alarmson and urge people to leave
their houses, but theirexcuse was, yeah, they
totally messed up with this.
And they could clearly say, wemessed up, we have to fix it.
No, they said it was doneon purpose because we
didn't want to raise panic.
Well, right now, guys.

(55:40):
Not to raise panic.
You're being kept in silent.
The disaster is justaround the corner.
Just like thatearthquake in Almaty.
And they are not raising thealarm not to raise panic.
They are being silent and theirsilence will cost you your life.
If we want to avoid thisreality, we have to stop being

(56:02):
couch potatoes, wake up anduse this miraculous technology
of cell phones we're havingin our hands to inform people
about what is happening.
Because government istoo busy not sounding the
alarm, not to raise panic.
And this is the reality of it.
We have people who are soundingthe alarm, but we don't have
means to amplify our call.

(56:23):
We're trying to use all possiblemeans and there are heroes
across the globe who unify,who spread this information,
but this is too little.
Too little yet towake people up.
And unfortunately, if that'sgoing to continue like that,
we're going to see tremendousdevastation in a number of human
lives taken by the climate.
And already it's takingmore human lives.

(56:45):
And when I'm watching thepresidential debates and
right now, we're seeingcandidates over there
talking about October 7.
Still nobody talks aboutearthquakes in Afghanistan.
They only speak about otherevents and it's a shame that,
in addition to climate, whichis doing much better job in
taking human lives where we'reseeing what is happening.

(57:06):
Military wise that we are caughtup and we are wasting time on
military operations and we havethis huge scientific centers, we
have this institutions worldwidethink tanks from Washington, D.
C.
to various places aroundthe globe who are creating

(57:26):
their geostrategic planning.
Do we have a single institutionthat is forecasting unification
of the people and givesstrategic means to unify
and build free society whereartificial intelligence will
serve all people and createa safe, beautiful, prospering
world where our currency willnot decline in its purchasing

(57:49):
power, where inflation willbe impossible because AI can
create economy that will notsee crisis, that will not
collapse, that will be not basedon debt, on endless creation
of debt that we are seeingright now with 40 trillions
of dollars that we owe tosomebody we don't even know who.

(58:09):
But we know that eventuallyit's going to collapse.
We just hope we're not goingto be the ones under the
rubble of this fallen economy.
But this is inevitable andthat is something we don't
want to recognize just likeimpending climatic disaster.
We have to be alittle bit more wiser.
We have to look atleast one step ahead.
You know, I came acrossthis interesting dialogue,

(58:30):
was Bitcoin created by CIA?
And the person who reallylooked into the creation of
the code itself said that itwas most probably insider in
National Security Agency becauseback before 2008, when it was
created, there was multipleways to protect the backdoor
from entering the code togenerate the random numbers.

(58:54):
Those backdoors, those alreadycertified ways to create the
software were certified byall international agencies.
They would say thatthose are safe.
So the person who created theBitcoin did not use any of
certified methods, which lateroccurred that NSA had the
backdoor to each one of them.

(59:16):
So it was insider who wasinside of NSA and he knew
that he was he cannot usecertified methods, because all
of them are being controlled.
National Security Agency,CIA, everybody else would
get in there, create endlessamount of digital currencies
and could track everythingdown, but he did not use them.
He was smart enough toforesee what is happening.

(59:36):
Same thing with VPN, with allother technologies, they were
created by very smart people.
Originally to, again, createcolorful revolutions around
the world, and you know howtechnologies have been used to
overthrow governments when therewas a governmental revolution
arising in Egypt, for example,there was a famous thing when
top government officials calledTwitter headquarters and said,

(01:00:00):
Twitter and Facebook, and theysaid, do not do your scheduled
maintenance this night,because there is a revolution
happening, and we don't wantfolks in Middle East to stay
without means to connect.
They have theirFacebook revolution.
Don't do the scheduledmaintenance tonight,
and the scheduledmaintenance was delayed.

(01:00:21):
We're seeing many ways howthe technology is being used
eventually against the peoplebecause CIA and everybody
else they fighting for worlddominance, their plans are
outdated and this is somethingwe don't realize too.
We have these huge machinesworking on plans for
of the past centuries.
They are not lookingfor the future.
They're not thinking of afuture of unified humanity

(01:00:43):
with no dictatorship.
But eventually, it's exactlywhat each one of them wants.
Each one of the people involvedin those think tanks for
themselves, they would want thisbeautiful world, but they're
just not caught up in this gamestate they keep playing which,
which simply make no sense.
So guys, let's stop beingcouch potatoes and stop waiting

(01:01:03):
for something beautiful tomiraculously happen itself.
We have to spend a littlebit of time both speaking
up to actually make ourworld a better place.
That is the most importantthing today to start
thinking for yourself.

Alexey (01:01:16):
Yes.
I want just to add that, peoplewho you think will do miracles
for you, they don't haveyour best interest in mind.
Definitely not.
And if we want to seemiracles in our life, we have
to create them ourselves.
And this is only possiblewhen we unite our potential.
Otherwise, we know for surebecause history shows that

(01:01:38):
only when people unite theycan achieve great things.
This is what we have to doright now at this turning
point of our civilization.
We invite everyone again to jointhis wave of speaking up for
also your rights and your life.
At the end of the day, it's yourlife and the lives of your loved

(01:02:00):
ones which are at play today.
And I don't think that anyonewill blame you for telling the
truth about what's happeningwith the planet and wanting
to save it for themselvesas well for yourself.
So guys, let's continue thisconversation and spread the

(01:02:21):
information about the truecauses of what is happening
to the planet and aboutthe way out that was also
voiced many times over.
So stay tuned untilnext time, be well.