October 23, 2023 • 56 mins
Can we afford to ignore the harsh realities of climate change any longer? As we unravel the tragedy that unfolded in Lahaina, Hawaii, we make the unsettling yet important connection between global crises and the government's inertia. Drawn towards new wars, the government's delay in action led to unnecessary loss of lives, glaringly highlighting our unpreparedness for disasters. We underscore the call from scientists and volunteers for repurposing the army from a tool of destruction to one of salvation, a plea that has largely fallen on deaf ears.
Our denial and our resistance to change are equally responsible for the climate crisis. Do we choose short-term comfort over long-term survival? Within the complex labyrinth of denial, we confront our own fears and reluctance to establish a world founded on different ideals. Reflecting on the tragic incidents in Libya and Lahaina, we challenge you to question what you fear to lose by embracing such a transformation.
All this and much more, including the now famous “green zones” announced at the National online conference “Global Crisis. America at the Crossroads 2024” - censored by YouTube, so be sure to watch it while you can!
We end on a sobering note, painting a grim picture of a deteriorating society, left in the clutches of indifference and apathy. Take San Francisco, a city that has transformed into a lifeless shell due to mismanagement and misplaced spending priorities. Ghost towns, looming climatic disasters, a residential tower on the brink of collapse - isn't it time to break the convenient silence? We call on you, our listeners, to take charge and make a difference in addressing the critical challenges we face today. Let's strive to bring light back into our cities and our lives.
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Taliy (00:02):
Hello, friends, and welcome to Episodikal
Podcast, episode number 25.
USA, as it is today, is in a bigmess, and not only politically,
but also economically.
But what's most terrifyingis that climate wise, we
are in a very vulnerableposition right now.
(00:23):
And climate is a commonthreat to all humanity, but
US, as it seems, not evenrealizing the whole scale
of upcoming catastrophes.
And what has happened in Lahainain Hawaii, just demonstrated
how much unprepared we are onthe scale of global cataclysms.
This conference onOctober 7th, 2023, it was
(00:47):
called "Global Crisis.
America at theCrossroads, 2024".
What was presented there, themost shocking information, one
of the most shocking clips wasregarding what kind of equipment
was right there in Hawaii, inPearl Harbor base, and other
bases close by, what kind ofhelicopters, planes, what kind
(01:10):
of ships, including amphibianships that can travel in the
very shallow waters, they cantravel to Lahaina despite the
coastal reef barriers and so on.
All that fairy taleswe've heard as an excuse
why Navy didn't come.
All the equipment they hadtechnologically to provide
service when it came tocommunication between civilians
(01:33):
and police departments,fire departments, everything
that could possibly be done,but there was never even an
order to use that high classequipment to save human lives.
It's not the army to blame,people in the army, they were
ready to execute any order.
That's the thing thatthe whole system does not
(01:54):
operate to save human lives.
It was only built andtrained to take human lives.
It was built to make peopledisappear across the world.
It's very easy to demolisha building with a missile or
do whatever, but it's veryhard to save human lives.
Apparently, this was too hard ofa decision for a local governor
(02:16):
who took more than two and ahalf days to request the usage
of military for this purposesin Lahaina, way past the time
when it was actually there.
Literally the deadline for manypeople whom we will never find.
One of the most shockingvideo clips was the speech of
this gentleman from Lahaina.
(02:37):
He said that many cars on themain street in Lahaina were
just burned, and many peoplethey suffocate, and their bodies
were still there in the positionsitting or laying on the ground.
And by the time, by themorning, by the next morning,
their bodies turned into ash.
And what happened next day?
A bulldozer came, and justtook all the cars away from
(03:00):
the main street and thencleaning cars those that
swipe cars from garbage, camethrough this main street and
whatever was left from thepeople, their ashes was simply
washed away from the streetlike they've never been there.
Of course, how do youexpect any numbers?
What the government wassaying, we're trying so
hard to recover whateverwas left from the people.
(03:22):
How are you going to recoverhow many people were left
if you just wipe the streetclean with all their remains?
This is tragic, and thisreminds very clearly what
has happened in Libya at thesame time when small babies
less than one year old werebrought by the sea back to the
shore after a terrible flood.
Army also arrived next dayafter the damage was done,
(03:45):
and only to pick up the bodiesfrom the ocean, pack them into
plastic body bags and take away.
And this is what we canexpect from the government.
This is kind of help wecan expect from our army.
Because up until this day,the call, the urgent call
from scientists, from CreativeSociety volunteers, from
(04:06):
people like Egon Cholakianto retrain and repurpose
army was never heard bythe masses, that was never
emphasized by any social media.
Instead of that, they promotinga new war, as you see, as a
way to distract masses froma terrible unpreparedness,
(04:27):
from terrible conditionswe are living in right now.
And when it's hard enough forpeople to live, you can only
imagine what it's like to loseeverything, including your
close ones, and be left overthere in Hawaii with no help.
And we've heard during theconference, what did people
advise to the president to dowith those 700 dollars, and
(04:50):
which place to stick it intoand where to fly after that.
Because, that's worsethan a slap on the face.
Well, when you disrespectpeople like that.
And then at the very same time,approving another military
budget to gift overseas, tomaintain a war that everyone
wish would never happen.
(05:12):
As one of the speakers of theconference, I was involved,
and I would be eager to hearyour feedback, and especially
feedback from the people whowatched it online, because we're
seeing clips on TikTok goingviral, but they getting comments
from the people who have notyet seen the conference, but
I would love to see and hearfeedback from you guys who
(05:34):
actually watched the conference.
It's only four hours.
It's a lot ofvaluable information.
And of course, Alex, I wouldlove to hear your opinion
and what was the mostremarkable thing for you.
Alexey (05:46):
First of all, I would like to address the issues
with unpreparedness of oursociety to the cataclysms.
And I don't even know if itis some sort of an oversight
that our army is not evengeared towards dealing with
emergency situations, helpingpeople when this is needed.
(06:09):
I think I've heard somethingabout army being there
in Switzerland to protectpeople and help when
something like this arises.
But, I don't know ifthis is really the case.
We have seen that the UnitedStates, the most powerful state
in the world, with the mostdeveloped military complex.
(06:30):
There was no one even suggestingto go and help people.
If one governor that forsome reason is waiting, other
sensible people around shouldhave proposed this kind of help.
And here we can see to whichabsurd point we've gotten to in
(06:52):
regards to giving away our powerand shifting responsibilities
because, oh, it's the governor.
So no one else is even thinkingabout how to help people.
We're just, oh,but the governor.
People are waiting fora command to be given.
They're not offeringany suggestions to the
(07:13):
higher ranking officials.
In terms of the informationpresented there, people
who lost everything wasreally heartbreaking.
This also reminded thatthese things will happen
to everyone if we continueto wait and do nothing, if
we continue to think aboutswitching to electric cars or
not consuming meat or whatever,instead of addressing the real
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causes of the climate change.
There was a very interestingpiece of information presented
towards the end that now isgoing viral - the green zones
where people will be ableto live a little longer when
the climatic catastrophesintensify even more.
This is scientific data.
(07:57):
This was calculated accordingto the mathematical model
that we've been talkinga lot on this podcast.
The whole continent is red.
There are just four zones,four zones that are green,
but they're so small.
It's four small towns.
And even there, you would haveto build a shelter, underground
(08:18):
shelter, with no more thanone floor above the ground.
When I was listening tothis, I wasn't sure how many
people would understand thatall this is shown not for
you to go rush and sell yourproperties elsewhere and try
to relocate to these greenzones while you still can.
(08:41):
But for you to realize that, it's not because these zones
will stay habitable for slightlylonger, maybe up to one year
longer, but it's not like youwould be sipping mojitos in your
backyard and enjoying your life.
Nothing will work.
You will not have electricity,you will not have running water,
(09:03):
shops will not operate, and youwill have to somehow survive.
We need to understand that thereis only one way out of this
situation where we continueto live, and this is building
another world where humanlife is the highest value.
And to save all humanlives, we need to unite
scientific potential.
I hope this was clear.
(09:24):
I was thinking that theguys will tell, I mean, that
John would tell or you orsomeone else on the set in
the studio would tell thatguys, we, we are not being
serious about you going there,selling everything and going
there, or having gold on you.
Because there's another thingabout having something that
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not a lot of people have.
And we've seen this a lotin history, that people will
take it by force from you.
All your gold, all yourpossessions and even the
place where you live.
it's not like you will bethere, as I said, sipping
mojitos in your backyard.
This will not be the case.
What was the reception of peoplein the States, if you have
(10:07):
already the chance to get anyfeedback from your neighbors,
maybe, or people you know?
Taliy (10:12):
Well, yeah, before John presented the map, he
actually addressed to thepeople and he said, yes, there
is a way to save humanity,but it's not practical.
It's only hypothetical.
And it's because of you guys,you would rather rush to the
green zones to only prolongateyour life for a little bit
for tiny longer for maybe anextra year, which is still
(10:35):
valuable because life is life,but you would rather waste
your resources on that ratherthan spend your time, and the
possessions you have rightnow, many people have those
still cryptocurrencies andbank accounts and everything,
but nobody's spending a dimebesides the participants of
the Creative Society projectto actually inform other people
(10:58):
about this way to preservehuman life, preserve our
planet, and actually prolongatehuman life way beyond species'
level, without disease,without any problems with
health and without any crisis.
And this is the life we canobtain if only people who hear
about Creative Society wouldbe actively participating.
(11:21):
But instead of that, theystart complaining like that
clip of Greta Thunberg, whichwas hilariously played by one
of our participants, Olga.
And Olga Thunberg, as wecalled her, and yeah, they
complaining that this CreativeSociety is trying to take away
from me my old age, my, myretirement dreams of getting
(11:45):
old in the nursing home andslaving away for the rest
of my days for peanuts andobtaining the list of disease
I already planned for life.
This is the reaction, thisis the absurdity we're
facing from the people who...
I don't know, detachedfrom reality, and when
reality hits, it hits hard.
(12:06):
We've seen that tornadodevastates a plant in
Kentucky, in a place wheretornadoes shouldn't even be.
And then people are shocked.
They didn't expect that tohappen to them, but how many
people we see right now in thecomment section saying that
this red map is probably someChinese trying to mess the
market of property and buy itcheap, or that BlackRock is
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trying to use Creative Societyto lower the prices for their
properties to buy it cheap.
We're hearing this stupidity incomment section for some reason,
people in a complete denial.
And that's despite the fact thata forecast of Creative Society
is already becoming reality.
I would like to remind toeveryone that only a few months
(12:51):
ago, a conference was held byour Italian participants, which
described exactly what is goingto happen to Campi Flegrei,
all the alarming signs, andtremors, and everything that
tells that there are littletime left for Italy itself.
And as has been predicted,forecasted by Creative
Society for years, Italyis going to be one of the
(13:12):
first countries to disappearfrom the climate change.
And that country shouldbe evacuated already now.
And then voila, we're seeing thearticles all over the European
press coming up, specificallyright now, mentioning that,
oh yeah, we probably shouldevacuate city of Napoli and
nearby areas, because itseems like the volcano is
(13:33):
gonna take off pretty soon.
Well...
Yeah, guys, that's gonna happen,but what makes you think that
your state is gonna survive oryour home is gonna be chosen?
So many people whoare really thinking
they're the chosen ones.
In every comment section, youwill see a lot of people not
taking this information serious.
(13:53):
They laugh.
I think it's kind of likedefensive mechanism, It was
described decades ago, whenpatients who have cancer at
the lethal stage and they'rebeing told by the doctor that
you have certain amount oftime to live, but not so long,
they go through five stages ofdenialism until the acceptance.
(14:14):
First they try to deny, thenthey laugh at it, then they
bargain, then they accept.
I think I skippedone stage, guys.
You can write in the commentbelow the correct list.
But the idea is clear thatright now people do not
want to believe that theirstate is gonna be gone
within five to seven years.
(14:35):
And you would rather sell itfor a cheaper price to Chinese
and BlackRock right now if youare selfish and greedy, then buy
yourself a piece of land in thegreen zone, and shelter there so
you would at least last longerthan most of the population.
And you've seen the houseyou're going to have to get
the one with no windows, theone with ammunition inside
(14:57):
to defend yourself from otherpeople who gonna come and try
to take away what's yours.
And this is exactly thescenario we've been prepared
for by every Hollywoodpost apocalyptic movie.
If you remember Mad Max, it'salways some group of people
who shelter in some mountain.
They have enough of water,guns, and fuel, and they
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live nicely there, and thereare savages around trying
to take it away from them.
So this is a clear pattern ofthe system of our consumerist
approach, which is verynatural for our consciousness.
We willingly acceptto play this game.
We're not willing to participatein a different kind of scenario
where collectively we cancreate a request to build
(15:41):
self governing society, whereno president, no dictator,
even if dictator was electedofficially on November election,
no dictator can usurp thepower, no dictator can dictate
us what to do with our moneyto send them overseas or
not to send them overseas.
We don't want tochange the system.
(16:01):
We willingly play, we complain,because it's very convenient to
shift responsibility for agingdictator who is shaking hands
with invisible people, blamehim and his surroundings that
is the bad one, that the nextone, of course, will be better.
And the next one isgonna come around.
And be even worse, asit always turns out.
(16:23):
And we've seen that before.
You know, what was the otherfeedback from the people?
They complained that we daredto laugh at Donald Trump and
call him selfish and call himout on his BS and his lies when
he was bragging that Obama sentonly blankets to Ukraine, when
Donald Trump, the great, theone and only, sent real weapons.
(16:44):
To fuel the war.
How brave was he of hisactions back then and how
he's not willing to evenrecall those right now.
Why?
Because we're dealingwith a pathological self
centric egoist liar who willonly brag about himself.
He will brag about sellingmerch, president of the
apocalypse once he win the war.
(17:06):
And of course that was ajoke in the conference, but
many people got so butthurt.
They not willing to accept thefact that no president is gonna
come and do the job for you.
And you're sitting there,and shifting responsibility
for those people.
And now, they're tryingto laugh at it, but only
stupid people laugh becausesmart ones already buying
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land in those green zones.
If you check all the propertyprices before the conference
and after you can see aslight spike in the prices
so far, it's only slides by.
Very soon it's going toincrease to the point when
you will not be able toafford that land anymore.
Why?
Because you was laughingand because you was hoping
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for some kind of presidentto come and do the job of
saving yourself instead ofyou taking care of yourself.
This was also a harsh momentin the conference when it was
said that what would happenif people in Libya, and
Lahaina, and Morocco wouldbe informed a day before?
Would we still see so manyfloating bodies in the water?
(18:11):
And the answer is we wouldstill see bodies in the water,
but only of those who didn'tlisten, who laughed at it.
And we would see smartpeople walking on the shore
and watching how bodies ofpeople who laughed at the
information and didn't listenare being washed on the shore.
And that is the differencebetween smart people
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and those who don't haveintelligence to comprehend it.
We cannot force people tobuild Creative Society.
It has to be done bychoice of the people.
And so far, we're seeingthat people would rather
shelter in the green zonesrather than take action,
which is very simple actions.
It's only to start speakingup, make TikTok videos,
and inform other people,millions of people.
(18:55):
But what are we seeing?
We're seeing lack ofself responsibility.
And what is the cure fromthat, Alex, in your opinion?
Alexey (19:04):
Listening to the conference, and what you just
said, (19:07):
what are people, what are they afraid of losing if they
at least try their best tobuild this world where we
would get everything thatwe've been talking about the
unconditional basic income, freehealthcare, education, health
capsule, matter replicator,fuel free generators, I
(19:30):
mean, really good life.
What are people trying to notlet go of so hard, what are
they gripping at so hard, whatdo they like really in the
world that we live in today?
We've just exchanged thelast days as well about how
(19:50):
our beloved California isdying, people are fleeing and
everything is closing down.
San Francisco, PaloAlto, Los Angeles.
All the restaurants, allthe places people love to
go and they're closing.
It's already empty space forrent, but no one will rent it.
This is the hard realitythat these places will
(20:12):
not be rented again.
Even when we've been inSan Francisco, around
Christmas, it was in 2021.
Only 1 in 10 shops was openafter the lockdowns, they did
not survive, but when you seethat people are not returning,
but it's not for the samereason they're not returning
(20:32):
because there's nothing todo because it's so dangerous
that after sunset, you won'tsee people walking around.
And this apocalyptic picture ofChristmas Eve when police cars
were all around Union Squarewhere people were walking around
shopping, the ice rink, andthe big Christmas tree, but all
(20:55):
around it was like zombie land.
You don't want to ventureoutside this protected area.
At the same time, peopleare not willing to improve
their life conditions whenyou are living in this world,
that's really crumbling.
Everything is falling apartjust in front of your eyes.
You can no longer denythis being the case.
(21:19):
There is a way to turnaround and walk in the
opposite direction to createa world where everyone
would live great life.
And people just laugh at youor tell that you're nuts.
Why is that?
I don't know.
You talked about thefive stages of grief.
Many people gothrough these stages.
(21:41):
Why not accelerate yourunderstanding of what is really
happening and acknowledging?
what is outside of your window?
We've been talking about this.
You don't need any other proofs.
Just look outside.
And I wanted to talk aboutlooking outside your window,
because when I speak topeople, and especially in
places where nothing hashappened yet, they're looking
(22:05):
at me as if I was crazy.
They say, what areyou talking about?
The sun is shining,the birds are chirping,
everything is fine.
I said, yes, but haveyou seen all these images
from across the world?
I understand that you arenot concerned maybe for the
moment about things happeningacross the globe, but happening
(22:27):
one hour drive from you.
I think it's really shortsightedto behave like this and not
taking it seriously, nothaving enough curiosity to go
and check this information.
We have this natural awarenessabout bad news, this phenomenon
that bad news is spreadingfaster than good news because
(22:47):
we are inclined to passthis important information
for survival faster.
And somehow, this survivalinstinct was turned off.
I don't know even how thishappened, but people became
numb to the informationabout climatic disasters
happening not far from them.
We are trying to crack thisprogramming that was installed
(23:10):
and explain, guys, you reallyhave to wake up, please wake up
because this will affect you.
Having people around telling,well, yeah, whatever, just
don't tell us anymore.
We had so many people talkingabout the end of the world.
In the previous episode,we asked our listeners
what would you do?
(23:30):
We had some commentsabout what shall we do.
As usual, I would sayguys, no one will help us
besides us doing this thing.
I mean, us in general,us as humanity.
For thousands of years,we've tried giving away our
responsibility, actuallygiving away our power, shifting
(23:51):
responsibility, and waitingfor miracles to happen.
Maybe it's time to wakeup, to grow up and see
that miracles don't happen.
If you continue doing the samethings, they will not magically
start happening all around.
But what we are seeingis that things are
changing all around us.
There was AuroraBorealis in Switzerland.
I wasn't there.
(24:11):
I haven't seen it.
But it was on the news, oneof the main state media said,
oh, it was a rare phenomenon.
Well, guys, I mean, ifit's a rare phenomenon, the
hottest month after month ofrecord breaking temperatures
and everything, rainfalls.
Just today I had a call forwork and we were exchanging
(24:33):
just before that, and,people from Geneva area, they
said, oh, it's like plus 26.
So we are havingexceptionally warm autumn.
We are recording this on October9th, so, I let you be the judge.
Everything is changing and everytime people say enjoy while
it lasts, good weather it'swarm, enjoy while it lasts.
(24:53):
Well, guys, we don't wantto spoil it to you, but it
will not last if we continuedoing nothing and just saying
that it's not a big deal.
Just summer temperaturesin the middle of autumn.
I don't know.
What are your thoughts on this?
Taliy (25:06):
Just before the conference, I had a business
trip to San Francisco,and I got to see what it
looks like in reality.
And, I was always surprisedhow do people still live
there, despite the fact thatthe city is so mismanaged, and
it's been absolute disaster.
Even living such a long time inLos Angeles, I was like, okay,
in Los Angeles, you have kindof like bad neighborhoods where
(25:28):
you shouldn't go at night, butyou cannot have that right in
the middle of a good district.
You have next streetis a complete disaster.
You have drug addicts,you have some tent cities,
you have people shootingforbidden substances in
front of police officers.
And this time what shock me,we took an Uber, and we were
(25:49):
driving by the Bay Bridge, andI was like, excuse me, that was
the most beautiful thing aboutSan Francisco, that Bay Bridge,
the illumination was gorgeous, Icame there in 2013, I was blown
away, that thing was beautiful,and now it's off, and he says,
that city doesn't have moneyfor the illumination anymore.
I'm like, hold on a second.
For all the taxes we pay inCalifornia, I cannot enjoy the
(26:13):
illumination on that thing.
All the money went where?
For free crack pipesfor the people?
Where did the money go?
We were walking down thestreet with my friends and
I was like, let me checkthis cool French restaurant.
I want to go check.
It's 4.
9 stars on Google reviews.
We have to check it.
We'll enter in there.
It's almost empty inside.
(26:35):
It looks very nice, alot of love and work
has been put in there.
And the waitress comes andshe's smiling, but you can
tell she's a little sad.
I was like like, how'sthe restaurant doing?
How's everything?
She goes, well, youknow, we're going out
of business in 10 days.
So you guys are maybe oneof our last customers.
And I was like, wow,what's happening?
(26:58):
What's going on?
And she's yeah, a lotof businesses in San
Francisco are going out.
And I was like, howdo you feel about it?
She's a little scary,nervously smiling, but then
I think it's gonna be fine.
Yeah, I'm gonna lookfor another job.
But the thing is even from thevideo you send me, you can tell
how many restaurants, how manyshops, stores, retail businesses
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went simply out of business.
With less jobs, less places tolive, but more people without
a job and with huge rents.
The city is gonna be aghost town very soon.
With climate, it's exactly thesame thing, they're not gonna
inform you about anything,they pocketed the money.
And it's normal.
And if you were in theirshoes, you would do the same.
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If you would sayotherwise, you would lie.
And you can lie to us, butjust answer to yourself.
And this is the question thatStephen from New York asked
viewers at the conference,he said, imagine yourself
sipping coffee in your coffeeshop or laying on your couch
and you have two buttons, youget 100, 000 for each person
(28:05):
burning in Lahaina rightnow, or you can reject the
money and save person's life.
Somebody who you never seen,who you know nothing about.
And here is 100K.
Which button would you press?
You would like to ask, butyou know your answer, right?
And here's the society welive in, in which human
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life is not valued at all.
The suggestion by CreativeSociety is to create
a different system.
But what we're seeingcomplete ignorance from the
people who still think thatthey're going to be fine.
That even in this consumeristsociety, I still do pretty fine
because I'm watching my TikToks.
(28:46):
I still sit on my couch,still sipping my coffee.
Why should I go there,inform somebody about
Creative Society and so on?
I'm doing pretty fine here.
So, it seems like the onlycure from this blindness,
from this completeignorance and selfishness
would be the realizationthat there is no future.
(29:07):
When people gonna realizethat there is no tomorrow.
There is no tomorrow for you.
Then they gonna startrunning around, making
chaos, making panic.
But the thing is, it'sgonna be too late by then.
That's the problem.
Because right now, in orderto counteract what is causing
the extreme climatic change,we have to have technologies
(29:31):
in place, we have to haveenough time to counteract it.
And we have to have ourscientific potential unified.
That is all possible.
There is nothingimpossible in it.
If you could spread around blacklives matter in a matter of one
day, we've seen people layingaround on the floors screaming
I cannot breathe because thatwas terrible what police officer
(29:53):
did to George Floyd, but whathas been done by our government
and ignorance of the militaryleadership to the people
in Lahaina was much worse.
There was silence.
None of you said I'mstanding with Lahaina.
None of you said our governmentshould transfer power back
to the people and unifyscientific potential and
(30:16):
retrain the army to savecivilians from the wildfires,
from the earthquakes, frommega tornadoes and tsunamis.
Because you think it'snot going to affect you.
So only when inevitabilityis going to be obvious,
that's when people gonnasay, oh, hold on a second.
I think before the CampiFlegrei in Italy blew up.
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I think I heard something fromthis Società Creativa guys in
Italy who are trying to warn meonly a few years before that.
And then they had some kind ofconference only three months
before that volcano erupted.
And right now I'm opening myfeed on news app on Apple,
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and I'm being suggestedan article from Discover
magazine only two hours ago.
Is it time to start worryingabout Campi Flegrei?
Alex, I would like to ask youas somebody who spends a lot of
time during the year in Italy,is it time to start worry?
And do people in Italy realizeit's might be about time?
Alexey (31:27):
I am in Italy right now and walking around the
streets, the sun is shining,you don't see, you don't
see people worrying or...
Taliy (31:36):
Gelato is still delicious.
Alexey (31:38):
Gelato is still delicious, pizza is nice yeah.
I mean, life in Italy forpeople is not sweet with
the prices of electricityreally gone through the roof.
But people still havekaraoke yesterday was Sunday.
They were singing andeverything in the evening.
It was very nicein the bar nearby.
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Today people areworking all around.
Life goes on.
You talked also aboutSocietà Creativa that
was warning people.
When we talk about the valueof human life, it's not
only like doing it on paper.
And I would like to connectthis, with what we talked about
about San Francisco, and I don'tknow if we touched upon this
(32:24):
already in, in the previousepisodes, but, there, there
are several strange thingsabout the Golden Gate Bridge.
Because the whole construction,the cost of construction in 19
32 was 27,125,000 dollars, thewhole budget with everything.
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Financing.
Banks got 4,000,000for financing.
There were some other expensesfor engineering and everything.
So the total was 35,000,000dollars at the time.
And they already had, someonehad to push to spend a little
more of a hundred thousanddollars for the safety nets
at the moment for the workers.
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And they did save life.
So they calculated.
I mean, the workerswere falling from the
construction site.
It's not that they were sodesperate that they were jumping
off the bridge because latelythe bridge was used for this.
People were jumping offGolden Gate Bridge and the
construction of safety netsbegan again several years ago.
Already in December, 2022the budget was double
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of the initial estimate.
It was already at400 million dollars.
And here I was thinking.
It is great that people thinkabout all those people, to
protect their lives so that theyfall on the nets, on the safety
nets under the bridge, and thatthey spend hundreds of millions
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of dollars that they give to theconstruction companies that are
building these nets once again,I mean, why did they them off?
Well, I have also myideas on that because life
was beautiful back then.
Wouldn't it be better tospend these $400 million on
improving the lives of peopleso that they don't go on
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this bridge for this purpose.
Why?
Are we that stupid?
That we agree on spending400 million dollars?
And how can the budget beexceeded by more than two
times from the initiallyapproved spending?
(34:40):
How come 100 years later,we need to spend 400 million
dollars for a bridge thatcosts 27 million to be built.
How is this possible?
Okay, inflation, we understand.
But they built the wholething faster than they're
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building the nets now.
This is the crazy thing becausethey didn't request extensions.
Everything was built on time.
The information is publishedon the official website, go
and just go to GoldenGate.
org and see all thedata by yourself.
Don't trust our words and goand verify by yourself, but
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they built the whole thing.
They really, even theroadway was completed
in under five years.
So yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
When you think about all thesethings and how we are spending
money now, it seems like thatthis idea of giving away our
power to someone else who willobviously, what are people
(35:46):
doing when they have all thesebudgets in their hands, they
will try to appropriate thismoney and do the good thing,
So that people accept it.
Build the nets.
This money, it didnot just disappear.
Some companies that aredoing this, they became
richer for 400 million.
And the idea that we need tospend all this money instead
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of improving people's liveson construction of some
sort of safety mechanism,it really makes me think
about just the imitationof doing something good.
The same thing as we talkedabout the United Nations
and 76 years of existenceand not a single problem
solved, only getting worse.
So, yeah, just putting thetwo and two together, we can
(36:34):
make our own conclusions abouthow life has changed, how we
became even more wouldn't saydetached from life, but we
cannot even lift our head fromall the problems that we have
to deal with to make a living,that we let all these things
happen just under our nose.
(36:56):
This is sad that we've cometo having to convince people
that we need to change theformat of living and having
this resistance as if theywere living a great life.
We did not encounter a lotof people during all our
conversations in personor remote, who said, oh,
(37:19):
life is so beautiful.
I wouldn't changea single thing.
I'm so happy with everythingSo yeah, let's just continue
doing the same thing.
I haven't met a single personindependent of wealth or their
life experience, I wouldn'tsay that people are happy in
general And when you tell them,guys, we can change this, we
(37:42):
just need to redirect wherewe put our attention, our
potential, our forces, ourfinances, we can change that.
They say, oh, you'restupid, you, yeah, just
what are you talking about?
This really, this bugsme, I would say simply.
Taliy (38:02):
Yeah, you spend so much time and money to
invest into current formatof living and what the people
talking about, informationpeople share with each other.
I'm sure that people in SanFrancisco complain about
pocketed money on this 400million dollar net and so on.
You know, what was anotherthing that really bothered
(38:23):
me about San Francisco?
So they built this residentialtower right next to the
building of Salesforce.
So it's like one of thetallest residential buildings
in whole San Francisco.
And the moment they build it,the building starts tilting
and shifting, and they alreadyestimated it's about to
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collapse in a very short time.
It was about to collapse.
And you know what, city of SanFrancisco whoever was making
decision to build a tower,whoever decided that it's
appropriate place, that thefoundation is fine enough, like
no investigation was on it.
The question was how do weget more money out of our
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city budget to build a safetynet for half a billion dollar
at the Golden Gate and spendanother hundred something
millions on this tower, whichthey had to reinforce and
put it back into place soit's not sinking anymore.
And you know, it's just signshere and there, like nothing
(39:27):
about this city seems right.
And a hundred years ago SanFrancisco was destroyed by the
earthquake known as the big one.
And the big one happened inbeginning of 20th century
it's 1906, I believe.
Many buildings were stillstanding strong, even high rises
back then, but only the onesthat were built up to standards,
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but most of the city was somismanaged, it simply collapsed.
And we are looking at the verysame thing, but on a global
scale that there are very fewmanagers here and there who
are doing their job right.
But it seems more as anexception, because as it's been
said before, every time thereis extreme climatic event, the
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local governor resigns, thelocal police department chef
resigns, the local managementagency chef resigns, somebody
like the head of departmentresponsible for preparation for
natural disasters always resignsafter a climate disaster.
(40:33):
And then they say,it wasn't our job.
Yes, it was your job, becauseyou were being paid for it.
But you see, nobody wantsto do anything about it.
And sometimes it'seven hilarious.
Like the public, I rememberback in the day, five,
six years ago, before theybuilt this new aqueduct,
the beautiful bridge in LosAngeles with lots of arches.
(40:55):
Before that, there was one thatwas like hundred years old.
It only had two arches andpeople were complaining that
the government is takingit down to build a new one.
Yes, they did build a new one,but the old one wouldn't survive
an Earthquake and that wouldcut off half of Los Angeles
from the mainland or whateveris like passing the LA river.
(41:16):
So, it's our lack ofeducation on social level.
Like generally we are sosidetracked, and honestly
it's a very complex issue,but the thing is that about
comprehending informationpresented by Creative Society,
there is nothing like it doesn'ttake any specific skills.
It doesn't take master's degree.
It doesn't take tobe a climatologist to
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actually comprehend it.
The thing is that even educatedpeople, they all understand
that we're saying the truthand that our model, it's the
only way out, but people aresilent because nobody wants to
stick out and put themselvesinto a position where they're
gonna stick out of the crowd.
You know what it reminds me?
(41:59):
It reminds me like a coupleof days ago, Robert Kennedy
he runs for presidentfrom democratic election.
He was interviewed by ajournalist and that guy
was also, trying to pullstrings, he was trying to
do some dirty tricks overthere, and he was trying to
do uncomfortable questions,to try to put a tag of
(42:20):
conspiracy theorist onto Robert.
And he asked about 9/11, andhe was trying to put some facts.
And Robert said, honestly, Idon't know too much about that.
But he's the kind of personthat would definitely learn
the subject and next timecome with facts that would
make this journalist put histongue into the place where Joe
(42:42):
Biden was advised to put his700 dollars, because when two
towers falling with explosionson every story of the building
with the speed of free fall andevery specialist seeing that
says it's a planned demolitionof the building, but they not
(43:02):
allowed to say obvious fact.
So for one year, they're sayingwe cannot explain what made
a steel structure collapsefrom collision with the
aluminum airplane fuselage.
We don't know whatmade it collapse.
And this is exactlythe science today.
They saying we can't explainwhy temperature is rising.
(43:22):
This climatologist from Berkeleyjust called this on Twitter
bananas temperature warmingbecause temperatures are going
bananas, and people askinghim on the very same Twitter
thread, what is causing thistremendous warming, so many
hurricanes and everything?
And he goes, I don't know, it'ssomething about El Nino, El Nino
(43:43):
is getting weird, we don't knowwhat's causing deep ocean waters
temperatures to rise, maybeit's this, maybe that, they're
trying to act like specialistswho were working on FEMA team on
the conclusion on 9/11 towers,when they had to say, we cannot
explain what it caused, becausethe only reasonable explanation
(44:06):
is that was a controlleddemolition is not allowed.
Therefore, becausegovernment said it cannot
be so, we don't believewhat our eyes are seeing.
We're believing our ears, andwhat we hear from governmental
sources that it couldn'tbe what it seems to be.
Therefore, we cannottell what it is.
(44:28):
The very same thingis happening here.
There is a very obvioustrend that deep oceanic
water is warming upfaster than the surface.
The only source of the heatis coming from underneath the
planet is the heating up ofmagma, which can be heated
only by the core of our planet.
There is no other sourceof energy in our planet.
(44:50):
And our core only receives thisenergy from outside, just like
X-rays can penetrate the skin,but cannot penetrate the bones.
The external cosmic radiationpenetrates our planet,
our bodies, everything,except for the core.
Bounces of the core, heatsup the magma, magma goes up.
(45:12):
Thinns the plates from within,heats them up, and the ocean.
And it's a very simple model.
You don't have to be agenius or you don't have to
have a master's degree fromBerkeley to comprehend it.
Yet, we have one PhD fromBerkeley who completely
understands this fact Andpresents this information
in the Global CrisisConference like John Ahn did.
(45:36):
And we have anotherclimatologist from Berkeley who
brags about being climatologistand using words like bananas
temperature rising only toattract attention to himself,
but hiding the very obviousfact that he knows perfectly
well that the heating up iscoming from within and cannot
be caused by some imaginaryCO2 percentage because
(45:58):
only 1 percent of that 0.
0.
0.
4 is caused by anthropogenicemissions, and the rest is
coming from natural sourceslike the ocean and the forest,
and he knows perfectly wellabout it, but he cares more
about getting more followerson Twitter rather than
conveying truth to the people.
And this is society we livein, and this is, again,
(46:21):
you in his shoes would beacting exactly the same.
Because you don't care aboutgeneral population, you don't
care about saving humanity.
These words are just nicewords for the beauty contests.
They're not...
being taken seriously by anyonein our society, unfortunately.
When you seeing people whospending their time, resources,
(46:44):
trying to convey thisinformation to you, like heroes,
participants of the CreativeSociety movement, you're
thinking they're either crazyor they're probably getting
something else out of it.
My friends, participants ofthe Creative Society project
understand perfectly wellthat without this project
being implemented, there isno future, neither for them
(47:06):
nor their children, because ingreen zones, you will perish
a little closer to 2036.
And in the yellow zonesand in the red zones, you
will disappear faster.
But the result isgonna be the same.
And what do we exchange it for?
Our convenient silence of ourscience, and not only science,
(47:28):
but ourselves as well, isexchanged just for this warm
bath of comfort that is goingto end up very suddenly when the
ceiling is gonna hit the floor.
And this is about to happen.
Another thing, in 2021,Ida hurricane destroyed
the Grand Isle of Louisianaright next to New Orleans.
(47:52):
And what are we seeing?
The mayor says until there'sone grant of soil to put
American flag into, we'regonna rebuild the Grand Aisle,
we're gonna spend trillionsof budget money, but we're
gonna preserve the place whereI can receive salary, because
what else the guy is gonna do?
He's not needed anywhere besidesthat little barrier island.
(48:14):
And they keep spending a lotof money into rebuilding that
island, which is going to bedestroyed very soon, rather than
spending the very same moneyto build what has to be built
in the places where it's goingto be useful for the people.
And we discussed it multipletimes at the Creative Society.
These are just obvious factsfor anyone who's digging a
(48:36):
little bit deeper, and I washappy to see that many people
on Netflix, and I would liketo say that Netflix is doing
a very good job, not only withAncient Apocalypse, which was
a very remarkable documentary,but also the Earth Storm series,
which we watched contained alot of information about tornado
Ellie getting bigger, DixieEllie getting bigger, which is
(48:58):
a second, even more severe Elliewhen it comes to tornadoes, and
the Giuseppe Mastro Lorenzo, whowas participating at the AllatRa
International Forums and whowas participating at the very
early stages of the CreativeSociety was one of the speakers,
and he described in verybeautiful words as any Italian
(49:22):
can speak very beautifullyand with with nice images.
He actually described what'sgoing to happen to the area
of beloved Southern Italy ofbeautiful cities, historical
cities in the nearest future.
It's actually kindof interesting.
I believe a lot of informationhe has, Giuseppe gained
from interaction withAllatRa international public
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movement, which is great.
Even in this way, if it's sharedwith the world, it's great.
The thing is in the film,they didn't emphasize on the
urgency of taking action.
They rather left it up tothe people to decide what
actions needs to be taken.
But even in this form,that is important.
And you know what?
I was watching thisdocumentary only yesterday,
(50:05):
and there was one Mr.
Goldfinger from Portland.
Yes.
he's a scientist and he'sstudying the Earth core,
actually the layers that theytaken out, ,he was emphasizing
that San Andreas fault andthe North Cascadia fault are
about to have a synchronousearthquake, and he was standing
(50:28):
on one of these ugly bridgesacross Portland, and they're
really nasty and ugly, youhave to get better bridges
over there, but he was sayingthat when I'm looking over
Portland, I cannot help butsee just big piles of rubble,
and I don't want to share doomand gloom, but this is true.
(50:49):
This city is not built towithstand a significant
earthquake, which isdefinitely coming up in
here in the nearest future.
Therefore, if you already knowabout it, if you hear these
people, even on mainstreamNetflix TV show, they
telling it straight to you.
Guys, move awayfrom these areas.
(51:12):
Check the maps CreativeSociety presented.
And check those green dots.
I know it's in Ohio.
I know some people incomment section say...
It's better to die than moveto Ohio, but believe me, you
only saying that right now asa joke, but when the situation
is going to get serious, therewill be empty shelves, there
will be lack of resources.
(51:33):
The whole Los Angelesarea is connected with
three roads with mainland.
And I'm talking aboutmainland, like whatever
is behind those mountains.
You're not gonnaget out of there.
There will be lack ofsupplies and people are very
well armed, even in such aliberal state as California.
There is a lot of guns, guys.
And you know that duringthe pandemic, people
(51:55):
were buying toilet paperbecause they were scared.
And guns.
Because they were scared.
So guys, a lot of people,well equipped people, who
are ready to shoot each otherfor a roll of toilet paper
or a canister of gasoline isour inevitability, and there
will be no resources, and notenough, because everybody's
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hoping that the governmentwill be there to protect
them from this lawlessness.
Guys, please think twice.
People who trustedgovernments turned into
ashes in Lahaina already.
Those who trusted their gutsare the ones who are still
alive and were able to sharewith us their terrible stories
(52:38):
of escaping Lahaina, of stayingin water for up to eight
hours, when the military basewas only 30 minutes flight,
so helicopter could be there,amphibious ships could be
there, pick them up from thewater, nobody came, people,
because nobody cares aboutthe people, except for us, the
actual people who want to live.
So guys, let's share thisconference with the people, and
(53:02):
let's share our feedback if youreally want to take action, but
we all understand that you'renot gonna do it, because you
have things to do, the sun isstill shining, coffee is still
bitter, gelato is still sweet,and if people in Napoli will
escape, it's good, if they'regonna be stuck in narrow
streets, well, the government isgoing to say it is what it is.
(53:25):
And look, the count of peopleperished in Lahaina went down.
Not up, so the governmentis apparently doing great.
We don't see people complainingand sleeping in the street So
the government is doing great.
You see this trickery howconveniently and easily they
convinced us and made usforget about these things.
(53:47):
But it's not becausethey're so good at trickery.
It's because we're willingto get tricked only to
get this uncomfortablething away from us.
We don't want to thinkabout those things.
We have our lives andour plans and everything.
And that's the problem guys.
We will realize it later, butthen there will be no time to
fix anything, unfortunately.
Alexey (54:09):
Yes, and I wanted to end on a bit of a joke.
Like this old anecdote.
A terminally illpatient asks the doctor.
Doctor, will I live?
And the doctor answers, yes,you will live for some time
more, but you will not like it.
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And this is what is goingto happen with life on this
planet, if we do nothing.
Let's stop pretending thatnothing is happening, that
things were always the same.
They were not, and we needto do something about it.
Not just something, butuniting everyone and changing
this world for the better.
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So don't be shy.
There is nothingto lose, really.
and you will see that moreand more people will wake up
because of you, because of whatyou are doing, spreading the
information around and justasking the right questions.
And when people answer bythemselves to these questions,
this becomes their ownanswer, and they will hold
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to it, and they will spreadthis information forward.
Thank you guys for listening.
Stay tuned, wewill be back soon.
Taliy (55:20):
See you guys.
Hello, friends, and welcome to Episodikal
Podcast, episode number 25.
USA, as it is today, is in a bigmess, and not only politically,
but also economically.
But what's most terrifyingis that climate wise, we
are in a very vulnerableposition right now.
(00:23):
And climate is a commonthreat to all humanity, but
US, as it seems, not evenrealizing the whole scale
of upcoming catastrophes.
And what has happened in Lahainain Hawaii, just demonstrated
how much unprepared we are onthe scale of global cataclysms.
This conference onOctober 7th, 2023, it was
(00:47):
called "Global Crisis.
America at theCrossroads, 2024".
What was presented there, themost shocking information, one
of the most shocking clips wasregarding what kind of equipment
was right there in Hawaii, inPearl Harbor base, and other
bases close by, what kind ofhelicopters, planes, what kind
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of ships, including amphibianships that can travel in the
very shallow waters, they cantravel to Lahaina despite the
coastal reef barriers and so on.
All that fairy taleswe've heard as an excuse
why Navy didn't come.
All the equipment they hadtechnologically to provide
service when it came tocommunication between civilians
(01:33):
and police departments,fire departments, everything
that could possibly be done,but there was never even an
order to use that high classequipment to save human lives.
It's not the army to blame,people in the army, they were
ready to execute any order.
That's the thing thatthe whole system does not
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operate to save human lives.
It was only built andtrained to take human lives.
It was built to make peopledisappear across the world.
It's very easy to demolisha building with a missile or
do whatever, but it's veryhard to save human lives.
Apparently, this was too hard ofa decision for a local governor
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who took more than two and ahalf days to request the usage
of military for this purposesin Lahaina, way past the time
when it was actually there.
Literally the deadline for manypeople whom we will never find.
One of the most shockingvideo clips was the speech of
this gentleman from Lahaina.
(02:37):
He said that many cars on themain street in Lahaina were
just burned, and many peoplethey suffocate, and their bodies
were still there in the positionsitting or laying on the ground.
And by the time, by themorning, by the next morning,
their bodies turned into ash.
And what happened next day?
A bulldozer came, and justtook all the cars away from
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the main street and thencleaning cars those that
swipe cars from garbage, camethrough this main street and
whatever was left from thepeople, their ashes was simply
washed away from the streetlike they've never been there.
Of course, how do youexpect any numbers?
What the government wassaying, we're trying so
hard to recover whateverwas left from the people.
(03:22):
How are you going to recoverhow many people were left
if you just wipe the streetclean with all their remains?
This is tragic, and thisreminds very clearly what
has happened in Libya at thesame time when small babies
less than one year old werebrought by the sea back to the
shore after a terrible flood.
Army also arrived next dayafter the damage was done,
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and only to pick up the bodiesfrom the ocean, pack them into
plastic body bags and take away.
And this is what we canexpect from the government.
This is kind of help wecan expect from our army.
Because up until this day,the call, the urgent call
from scientists, from CreativeSociety volunteers, from
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people like Egon Cholakianto retrain and repurpose
army was never heard bythe masses, that was never
emphasized by any social media.
Instead of that, they promotinga new war, as you see, as a
way to distract masses froma terrible unpreparedness,
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from terrible conditionswe are living in right now.
And when it's hard enough forpeople to live, you can only
imagine what it's like to loseeverything, including your
close ones, and be left overthere in Hawaii with no help.
And we've heard during theconference, what did people
advise to the president to dowith those 700 dollars, and
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which place to stick it intoand where to fly after that.
Because, that's worsethan a slap on the face.
Well, when you disrespectpeople like that.
And then at the very same time,approving another military
budget to gift overseas, tomaintain a war that everyone
wish would never happen.
(05:12):
As one of the speakers of theconference, I was involved,
and I would be eager to hearyour feedback, and especially
feedback from the people whowatched it online, because we're
seeing clips on TikTok goingviral, but they getting comments
from the people who have notyet seen the conference, but
I would love to see and hearfeedback from you guys who
(05:34):
actually watched the conference.
It's only four hours.
It's a lot ofvaluable information.
And of course, Alex, I wouldlove to hear your opinion
and what was the mostremarkable thing for you.
Alexey (05:46):
First of all, I would like to address the issues
with unpreparedness of oursociety to the cataclysms.
And I don't even know if itis some sort of an oversight
that our army is not evengeared towards dealing with
emergency situations, helpingpeople when this is needed.
(06:09):
I think I've heard somethingabout army being there
in Switzerland to protectpeople and help when
something like this arises.
But, I don't know ifthis is really the case.
We have seen that the UnitedStates, the most powerful state
in the world, with the mostdeveloped military complex.
(06:30):
There was no one even suggestingto go and help people.
If one governor that forsome reason is waiting, other
sensible people around shouldhave proposed this kind of help.
And here we can see to whichabsurd point we've gotten to in
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regards to giving away our powerand shifting responsibilities
because, oh, it's the governor.
So no one else is even thinkingabout how to help people.
We're just, oh,but the governor.
People are waiting fora command to be given.
They're not offeringany suggestions to the
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higher ranking officials.
In terms of the informationpresented there, people
who lost everything wasreally heartbreaking.
This also reminded thatthese things will happen
to everyone if we continueto wait and do nothing, if
we continue to think aboutswitching to electric cars or
not consuming meat or whatever,instead of addressing the real
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causes of the climate change.
There was a very interestingpiece of information presented
towards the end that now isgoing viral - the green zones
where people will be ableto live a little longer when
the climatic catastrophesintensify even more.
This is scientific data.
(07:57):
This was calculated accordingto the mathematical model
that we've been talkinga lot on this podcast.
The whole continent is red.
There are just four zones,four zones that are green,
but they're so small.
It's four small towns.
And even there, you would haveto build a shelter, underground
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shelter, with no more thanone floor above the ground.
When I was listening tothis, I wasn't sure how many
people would understand thatall this is shown not for
you to go rush and sell yourproperties elsewhere and try
to relocate to these greenzones while you still can.
(08:41):
But for you to realize that, it's not because these zones
will stay habitable for slightlylonger, maybe up to one year
longer, but it's not like youwould be sipping mojitos in your
backyard and enjoying your life.
Nothing will work.
You will not have electricity,you will not have running water,
(09:03):
shops will not operate, and youwill have to somehow survive.
We need to understand that thereis only one way out of this
situation where we continueto live, and this is building
another world where humanlife is the highest value.
And to save all humanlives, we need to unite
scientific potential.
I hope this was clear.
(09:24):
I was thinking that theguys will tell, I mean, that
John would tell or you orsomeone else on the set in
the studio would tell thatguys, we, we are not being
serious about you going there,selling everything and going
there, or having gold on you.
Because there's another thingabout having something that
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not a lot of people have.
And we've seen this a lotin history, that people will
take it by force from you.
All your gold, all yourpossessions and even the
place where you live.
it's not like you will bethere, as I said, sipping
mojitos in your backyard.
This will not be the case.
What was the reception of peoplein the States, if you have
(10:07):
already the chance to get anyfeedback from your neighbors,
maybe, or people you know?
Taliy (10:12):
Well, yeah, before John presented the map, he
actually addressed to thepeople and he said, yes, there
is a way to save humanity,but it's not practical.
It's only hypothetical.
And it's because of you guys,you would rather rush to the
green zones to only prolongateyour life for a little bit
for tiny longer for maybe anextra year, which is still
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valuable because life is life,but you would rather waste
your resources on that ratherthan spend your time, and the
possessions you have rightnow, many people have those
still cryptocurrencies andbank accounts and everything,
but nobody's spending a dimebesides the participants of
the Creative Society projectto actually inform other people
(10:58):
about this way to preservehuman life, preserve our
planet, and actually prolongatehuman life way beyond species'
level, without disease,without any problems with
health and without any crisis.
And this is the life we canobtain if only people who hear
about Creative Society wouldbe actively participating.
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But instead of that, theystart complaining like that
clip of Greta Thunberg, whichwas hilariously played by one
of our participants, Olga.
And Olga Thunberg, as wecalled her, and yeah, they
complaining that this CreativeSociety is trying to take away
from me my old age, my, myretirement dreams of getting
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old in the nursing home andslaving away for the rest
of my days for peanuts andobtaining the list of disease
I already planned for life.
This is the reaction, thisis the absurdity we're
facing from the people who...
I don't know, detachedfrom reality, and when
reality hits, it hits hard.
(12:06):
We've seen that tornadodevastates a plant in
Kentucky, in a place wheretornadoes shouldn't even be.
And then people are shocked.
They didn't expect that tohappen to them, but how many
people we see right now in thecomment section saying that
this red map is probably someChinese trying to mess the
market of property and buy itcheap, or that BlackRock is
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trying to use Creative Societyto lower the prices for their
properties to buy it cheap.
We're hearing this stupidity incomment section for some reason,
people in a complete denial.
And that's despite the fact thata forecast of Creative Society
is already becoming reality.
I would like to remind toeveryone that only a few months
(12:51):
ago, a conference was held byour Italian participants, which
described exactly what is goingto happen to Campi Flegrei,
all the alarming signs, andtremors, and everything that
tells that there are littletime left for Italy itself.
And as has been predicted,forecasted by Creative
Society for years, Italyis going to be one of the
(13:12):
first countries to disappearfrom the climate change.
And that country shouldbe evacuated already now.
And then voila, we're seeing thearticles all over the European
press coming up, specificallyright now, mentioning that,
oh yeah, we probably shouldevacuate city of Napoli and
nearby areas, because itseems like the volcano is
(13:33):
gonna take off pretty soon.
Well...
Yeah, guys, that's gonna happen,but what makes you think that
your state is gonna survive oryour home is gonna be chosen?
So many people whoare really thinking
they're the chosen ones.
In every comment section, youwill see a lot of people not
taking this information serious.
(13:53):
They laugh.
I think it's kind of likedefensive mechanism, It was
described decades ago, whenpatients who have cancer at
the lethal stage and they'rebeing told by the doctor that
you have certain amount oftime to live, but not so long,
they go through five stages ofdenialism until the acceptance.
(14:14):
First they try to deny, thenthey laugh at it, then they
bargain, then they accept.
I think I skippedone stage, guys.
You can write in the commentbelow the correct list.
But the idea is clear thatright now people do not
want to believe that theirstate is gonna be gone
within five to seven years.
(14:35):
And you would rather sell itfor a cheaper price to Chinese
and BlackRock right now if youare selfish and greedy, then buy
yourself a piece of land in thegreen zone, and shelter there so
you would at least last longerthan most of the population.
And you've seen the houseyou're going to have to get
the one with no windows, theone with ammunition inside
(14:57):
to defend yourself from otherpeople who gonna come and try
to take away what's yours.
And this is exactly thescenario we've been prepared
for by every Hollywoodpost apocalyptic movie.
If you remember Mad Max, it'salways some group of people
who shelter in some mountain.
They have enough of water,guns, and fuel, and they
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live nicely there, and thereare savages around trying
to take it away from them.
So this is a clear pattern ofthe system of our consumerist
approach, which is verynatural for our consciousness.
We willingly acceptto play this game.
We're not willing to participatein a different kind of scenario
where collectively we cancreate a request to build
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self governing society, whereno president, no dictator,
even if dictator was electedofficially on November election,
no dictator can usurp thepower, no dictator can dictate
us what to do with our moneyto send them overseas or
not to send them overseas.
We don't want tochange the system.
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We willingly play, we complain,because it's very convenient to
shift responsibility for agingdictator who is shaking hands
with invisible people, blamehim and his surroundings that
is the bad one, that the nextone, of course, will be better.
And the next one isgonna come around.
And be even worse, asit always turns out.
(16:23):
And we've seen that before.
You know, what was the otherfeedback from the people?
They complained that we daredto laugh at Donald Trump and
call him selfish and call himout on his BS and his lies when
he was bragging that Obama sentonly blankets to Ukraine, when
Donald Trump, the great, theone and only, sent real weapons.
(16:44):
To fuel the war.
How brave was he of hisactions back then and how
he's not willing to evenrecall those right now.
Why?
Because we're dealingwith a pathological self
centric egoist liar who willonly brag about himself.
He will brag about sellingmerch, president of the
apocalypse once he win the war.
(17:06):
And of course that was ajoke in the conference, but
many people got so butthurt.
They not willing to accept thefact that no president is gonna
come and do the job for you.
And you're sitting there,and shifting responsibility
for those people.
And now, they're tryingto laugh at it, but only
stupid people laugh becausesmart ones already buying
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land in those green zones.
If you check all the propertyprices before the conference
and after you can see aslight spike in the prices
so far, it's only slides by.
Very soon it's going toincrease to the point when
you will not be able toafford that land anymore.
Why?
Because you was laughingand because you was hoping
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for some kind of presidentto come and do the job of
saving yourself instead ofyou taking care of yourself.
This was also a harsh momentin the conference when it was
said that what would happenif people in Libya, and
Lahaina, and Morocco wouldbe informed a day before?
Would we still see so manyfloating bodies in the water?
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And the answer is we wouldstill see bodies in the water,
but only of those who didn'tlisten, who laughed at it.
And we would see smartpeople walking on the shore
and watching how bodies ofpeople who laughed at the
information and didn't listenare being washed on the shore.
And that is the differencebetween smart people
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and those who don't haveintelligence to comprehend it.
We cannot force people tobuild Creative Society.
It has to be done bychoice of the people.
And so far, we're seeingthat people would rather
shelter in the green zonesrather than take action,
which is very simple actions.
It's only to start speakingup, make TikTok videos,
and inform other people,millions of people.
(18:55):
But what are we seeing?
We're seeing lack ofself responsibility.
And what is the cure fromthat, Alex, in your opinion?
Alexey (19:04):
Listening to the conference, and what you just
said, (19:07):
what are people, what are they afraid of losing if they
at least try their best tobuild this world where we
would get everything thatwe've been talking about the
unconditional basic income, freehealthcare, education, health
capsule, matter replicator,fuel free generators, I
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mean, really good life.
What are people trying to notlet go of so hard, what are
they gripping at so hard, whatdo they like really in the
world that we live in today?
We've just exchanged thelast days as well about how
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our beloved California isdying, people are fleeing and
everything is closing down.
San Francisco, PaloAlto, Los Angeles.
All the restaurants, allthe places people love to
go and they're closing.
It's already empty space forrent, but no one will rent it.
This is the hard realitythat these places will
(20:12):
not be rented again.
Even when we've been inSan Francisco, around
Christmas, it was in 2021.
Only 1 in 10 shops was openafter the lockdowns, they did
not survive, but when you seethat people are not returning,
but it's not for the samereason they're not returning
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because there's nothing todo because it's so dangerous
that after sunset, you won'tsee people walking around.
And this apocalyptic picture ofChristmas Eve when police cars
were all around Union Squarewhere people were walking around
shopping, the ice rink, andthe big Christmas tree, but all
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around it was like zombie land.
You don't want to ventureoutside this protected area.
At the same time, peopleare not willing to improve
their life conditions whenyou are living in this world,
that's really crumbling.
Everything is falling apartjust in front of your eyes.
You can no longer denythis being the case.
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There is a way to turnaround and walk in the
opposite direction to createa world where everyone
would live great life.
And people just laugh at youor tell that you're nuts.
Why is that?
I don't know.
You talked about thefive stages of grief.
Many people gothrough these stages.
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Why not accelerate yourunderstanding of what is really
happening and acknowledging?
what is outside of your window?
We've been talking about this.
You don't need any other proofs.
Just look outside.
And I wanted to talk aboutlooking outside your window,
because when I speak topeople, and especially in
places where nothing hashappened yet, they're looking
(22:05):
at me as if I was crazy.
They say, what areyou talking about?
The sun is shining,the birds are chirping,
everything is fine.
I said, yes, but haveyou seen all these images
from across the world?
I understand that you arenot concerned maybe for the
moment about things happeningacross the globe, but happening
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one hour drive from you.
I think it's really shortsightedto behave like this and not
taking it seriously, nothaving enough curiosity to go
and check this information.
We have this natural awarenessabout bad news, this phenomenon
that bad news is spreadingfaster than good news because
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we are inclined to passthis important information
for survival faster.
And somehow, this survivalinstinct was turned off.
I don't know even how thishappened, but people became
numb to the informationabout climatic disasters
happening not far from them.
We are trying to crack thisprogramming that was installed
(23:10):
and explain, guys, you reallyhave to wake up, please wake up
because this will affect you.
Having people around telling,well, yeah, whatever, just
don't tell us anymore.
We had so many people talkingabout the end of the world.
In the previous episode,we asked our listeners
what would you do?
(23:30):
We had some commentsabout what shall we do.
As usual, I would sayguys, no one will help us
besides us doing this thing.
I mean, us in general,us as humanity.
For thousands of years,we've tried giving away our
responsibility, actuallygiving away our power, shifting
(23:51):
responsibility, and waitingfor miracles to happen.
Maybe it's time to wakeup, to grow up and see
that miracles don't happen.
If you continue doing the samethings, they will not magically
start happening all around.
But what we are seeingis that things are
changing all around us.
There was AuroraBorealis in Switzerland.
I wasn't there.
(24:11):
I haven't seen it.
But it was on the news, oneof the main state media said,
oh, it was a rare phenomenon.
Well, guys, I mean, ifit's a rare phenomenon, the
hottest month after month ofrecord breaking temperatures
and everything, rainfalls.
Just today I had a call forwork and we were exchanging
(24:33):
just before that, and,people from Geneva area, they
said, oh, it's like plus 26.
So we are havingexceptionally warm autumn.
We are recording this on October9th, so, I let you be the judge.
Everything is changing and everytime people say enjoy while
it lasts, good weather it'swarm, enjoy while it lasts.
(24:53):
Well, guys, we don't wantto spoil it to you, but it
will not last if we continuedoing nothing and just saying
that it's not a big deal.
Just summer temperaturesin the middle of autumn.
I don't know.
What are your thoughts on this?
Taliy (25:06):
Just before the conference, I had a business
trip to San Francisco,and I got to see what it
looks like in reality.
And, I was always surprisedhow do people still live
there, despite the fact thatthe city is so mismanaged, and
it's been absolute disaster.
Even living such a long time inLos Angeles, I was like, okay,
in Los Angeles, you have kindof like bad neighborhoods where
(25:28):
you shouldn't go at night, butyou cannot have that right in
the middle of a good district.
You have next streetis a complete disaster.
You have drug addicts,you have some tent cities,
you have people shootingforbidden substances in
front of police officers.
And this time what shock me,we took an Uber, and we were
(25:49):
driving by the Bay Bridge, andI was like, excuse me, that was
the most beautiful thing aboutSan Francisco, that Bay Bridge,
the illumination was gorgeous, Icame there in 2013, I was blown
away, that thing was beautiful,and now it's off, and he says,
that city doesn't have moneyfor the illumination anymore.
I'm like, hold on a second.
For all the taxes we pay inCalifornia, I cannot enjoy the
(26:13):
illumination on that thing.
All the money went where?
For free crack pipesfor the people?
Where did the money go?
We were walking down thestreet with my friends and
I was like, let me checkthis cool French restaurant.
I want to go check.
It's 4.
9 stars on Google reviews.
We have to check it.
We'll enter in there.
It's almost empty inside.
(26:35):
It looks very nice, alot of love and work
has been put in there.
And the waitress comes andshe's smiling, but you can
tell she's a little sad.
I was like like, how'sthe restaurant doing?
How's everything?
She goes, well, youknow, we're going out
of business in 10 days.
So you guys are maybe oneof our last customers.
And I was like, wow,what's happening?
(26:58):
What's going on?
And she's yeah, a lotof businesses in San
Francisco are going out.
And I was like, howdo you feel about it?
She's a little scary,nervously smiling, but then
I think it's gonna be fine.
Yeah, I'm gonna lookfor another job.
But the thing is even from thevideo you send me, you can tell
how many restaurants, how manyshops, stores, retail businesses
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went simply out of business.
With less jobs, less places tolive, but more people without
a job and with huge rents.
The city is gonna be aghost town very soon.
With climate, it's exactly thesame thing, they're not gonna
inform you about anything,they pocketed the money.
And it's normal.
And if you were in theirshoes, you would do the same.
(27:42):
If you would sayotherwise, you would lie.
And you can lie to us, butjust answer to yourself.
And this is the question thatStephen from New York asked
viewers at the conference,he said, imagine yourself
sipping coffee in your coffeeshop or laying on your couch
and you have two buttons, youget 100, 000 for each person
(28:05):
burning in Lahaina rightnow, or you can reject the
money and save person's life.
Somebody who you never seen,who you know nothing about.
And here is 100K.
Which button would you press?
You would like to ask, butyou know your answer, right?
And here's the society welive in, in which human
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life is not valued at all.
The suggestion by CreativeSociety is to create
a different system.
But what we're seeingcomplete ignorance from the
people who still think thatthey're going to be fine.
That even in this consumeristsociety, I still do pretty fine
because I'm watching my TikToks.
(28:46):
I still sit on my couch,still sipping my coffee.
Why should I go there,inform somebody about
Creative Society and so on?
I'm doing pretty fine here.
So, it seems like the onlycure from this blindness,
from this completeignorance and selfishness
would be the realizationthat there is no future.
(29:07):
When people gonna realizethat there is no tomorrow.
There is no tomorrow for you.
Then they gonna startrunning around, making
chaos, making panic.
But the thing is, it'sgonna be too late by then.
That's the problem.
Because right now, in orderto counteract what is causing
the extreme climatic change,we have to have technologies
(29:31):
in place, we have to haveenough time to counteract it.
And we have to have ourscientific potential unified.
That is all possible.
There is nothingimpossible in it.
If you could spread around blacklives matter in a matter of one
day, we've seen people layingaround on the floors screaming
I cannot breathe because thatwas terrible what police officer
(29:53):
did to George Floyd, but whathas been done by our government
and ignorance of the militaryleadership to the people
in Lahaina was much worse.
There was silence.
None of you said I'mstanding with Lahaina.
None of you said our governmentshould transfer power back
to the people and unifyscientific potential and
(30:16):
retrain the army to savecivilians from the wildfires,
from the earthquakes, frommega tornadoes and tsunamis.
Because you think it'snot going to affect you.
So only when inevitabilityis going to be obvious,
that's when people gonnasay, oh, hold on a second.
I think before the CampiFlegrei in Italy blew up.
(30:41):
I think I heard something fromthis Società Creativa guys in
Italy who are trying to warn meonly a few years before that.
And then they had some kind ofconference only three months
before that volcano erupted.
And right now I'm opening myfeed on news app on Apple,
(31:02):
and I'm being suggestedan article from Discover
magazine only two hours ago.
Is it time to start worryingabout Campi Flegrei?
Alex, I would like to ask youas somebody who spends a lot of
time during the year in Italy,is it time to start worry?
And do people in Italy realizeit's might be about time?
Alexey (31:27):
I am in Italy right now and walking around the
streets, the sun is shining,you don't see, you don't
see people worrying or...
Taliy (31:36):
Gelato is still delicious.
Alexey (31:38):
Gelato is still delicious, pizza is nice yeah.
I mean, life in Italy forpeople is not sweet with
the prices of electricityreally gone through the roof.
But people still havekaraoke yesterday was Sunday.
They were singing andeverything in the evening.
It was very nicein the bar nearby.
(32:00):
Today people areworking all around.
Life goes on.
You talked also aboutSocietà Creativa that
was warning people.
When we talk about the valueof human life, it's not
only like doing it on paper.
And I would like to connectthis, with what we talked about
about San Francisco, and I don'tknow if we touched upon this
(32:24):
already in, in the previousepisodes, but, there, there
are several strange thingsabout the Golden Gate Bridge.
Because the whole construction,the cost of construction in 19
32 was 27,125,000 dollars, thewhole budget with everything.
(32:47):
Financing.
Banks got 4,000,000for financing.
There were some other expensesfor engineering and everything.
So the total was 35,000,000dollars at the time.
And they already had, someonehad to push to spend a little
more of a hundred thousanddollars for the safety nets
at the moment for the workers.
(33:08):
And they did save life.
So they calculated.
I mean, the workerswere falling from the
construction site.
It's not that they were sodesperate that they were jumping
off the bridge because latelythe bridge was used for this.
People were jumping offGolden Gate Bridge and the
construction of safety netsbegan again several years ago.
Already in December, 2022the budget was double
(33:33):
of the initial estimate.
It was already at400 million dollars.
And here I was thinking.
It is great that people thinkabout all those people, to
protect their lives so that theyfall on the nets, on the safety
nets under the bridge, and thatthey spend hundreds of millions
(33:56):
of dollars that they give to theconstruction companies that are
building these nets once again,I mean, why did they them off?
Well, I have also myideas on that because life
was beautiful back then.
Wouldn't it be better tospend these $400 million on
improving the lives of peopleso that they don't go on
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this bridge for this purpose.
Why?
Are we that stupid?
That we agree on spending400 million dollars?
And how can the budget beexceeded by more than two
times from the initiallyapproved spending?
(34:40):
How come 100 years later,we need to spend 400 million
dollars for a bridge thatcosts 27 million to be built.
How is this possible?
Okay, inflation, we understand.
But they built the wholething faster than they're
(35:01):
building the nets now.
This is the crazy thing becausethey didn't request extensions.
Everything was built on time.
The information is publishedon the official website, go
and just go to GoldenGate.
org and see all thedata by yourself.
Don't trust our words and goand verify by yourself, but
(35:23):
they built the whole thing.
They really, even theroadway was completed
in under five years.
So yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
When you think about all thesethings and how we are spending
money now, it seems like thatthis idea of giving away our
power to someone else who willobviously, what are people
(35:46):
doing when they have all thesebudgets in their hands, they
will try to appropriate thismoney and do the good thing,
So that people accept it.
Build the nets.
This money, it didnot just disappear.
Some companies that aredoing this, they became
richer for 400 million.
And the idea that we need tospend all this money instead
(36:11):
of improving people's liveson construction of some
sort of safety mechanism,it really makes me think
about just the imitationof doing something good.
The same thing as we talkedabout the United Nations
and 76 years of existenceand not a single problem
solved, only getting worse.
So, yeah, just putting thetwo and two together, we can
(36:34):
make our own conclusions abouthow life has changed, how we
became even more wouldn't saydetached from life, but we
cannot even lift our head fromall the problems that we have
to deal with to make a living,that we let all these things
happen just under our nose.
(36:56):
This is sad that we've cometo having to convince people
that we need to change theformat of living and having
this resistance as if theywere living a great life.
We did not encounter a lotof people during all our
conversations in personor remote, who said, oh,
(37:19):
life is so beautiful.
I wouldn't changea single thing.
I'm so happy with everythingSo yeah, let's just continue
doing the same thing.
I haven't met a single personindependent of wealth or their
life experience, I wouldn'tsay that people are happy in
general And when you tell them,guys, we can change this, we
(37:42):
just need to redirect wherewe put our attention, our
potential, our forces, ourfinances, we can change that.
They say, oh, you'restupid, you, yeah, just
what are you talking about?
This really, this bugsme, I would say simply.
Taliy (38:02):
Yeah, you spend so much time and money to
invest into current formatof living and what the people
talking about, informationpeople share with each other.
I'm sure that people in SanFrancisco complain about
pocketed money on this 400million dollar net and so on.
You know, what was anotherthing that really bothered
(38:23):
me about San Francisco?
So they built this residentialtower right next to the
building of Salesforce.
So it's like one of thetallest residential buildings
in whole San Francisco.
And the moment they build it,the building starts tilting
and shifting, and they alreadyestimated it's about to
(38:45):
collapse in a very short time.
It was about to collapse.
And you know what, city of SanFrancisco whoever was making
decision to build a tower,whoever decided that it's
appropriate place, that thefoundation is fine enough, like
no investigation was on it.
The question was how do weget more money out of our
(39:07):
city budget to build a safetynet for half a billion dollar
at the Golden Gate and spendanother hundred something
millions on this tower, whichthey had to reinforce and
put it back into place soit's not sinking anymore.
And you know, it's just signshere and there, like nothing
(39:27):
about this city seems right.
And a hundred years ago SanFrancisco was destroyed by the
earthquake known as the big one.
And the big one happened inbeginning of 20th century
it's 1906, I believe.
Many buildings were stillstanding strong, even high rises
back then, but only the onesthat were built up to standards,
(39:52):
but most of the city was somismanaged, it simply collapsed.
And we are looking at the verysame thing, but on a global
scale that there are very fewmanagers here and there who
are doing their job right.
But it seems more as anexception, because as it's been
said before, every time thereis extreme climatic event, the
(40:13):
local governor resigns, thelocal police department chef
resigns, the local managementagency chef resigns, somebody
like the head of departmentresponsible for preparation for
natural disasters always resignsafter a climate disaster.
(40:33):
And then they say,it wasn't our job.
Yes, it was your job, becauseyou were being paid for it.
But you see, nobody wantsto do anything about it.
And sometimes it'seven hilarious.
Like the public, I rememberback in the day, five,
six years ago, before theybuilt this new aqueduct,
the beautiful bridge in LosAngeles with lots of arches.
(40:55):
Before that, there was one thatwas like hundred years old.
It only had two arches andpeople were complaining that
the government is takingit down to build a new one.
Yes, they did build a new one,but the old one wouldn't survive
an Earthquake and that wouldcut off half of Los Angeles
from the mainland or whateveris like passing the LA river.
(41:16):
So, it's our lack ofeducation on social level.
Like generally we are sosidetracked, and honestly
it's a very complex issue,but the thing is that about
comprehending informationpresented by Creative Society,
there is nothing like it doesn'ttake any specific skills.
It doesn't take master's degree.
It doesn't take tobe a climatologist to
(41:38):
actually comprehend it.
The thing is that even educatedpeople, they all understand
that we're saying the truthand that our model, it's the
only way out, but people aresilent because nobody wants to
stick out and put themselvesinto a position where they're
gonna stick out of the crowd.
You know what it reminds me?
(41:59):
It reminds me like a coupleof days ago, Robert Kennedy
he runs for presidentfrom democratic election.
He was interviewed by ajournalist and that guy
was also, trying to pullstrings, he was trying to
do some dirty tricks overthere, and he was trying to
do uncomfortable questions,to try to put a tag of
(42:20):
conspiracy theorist onto Robert.
And he asked about 9/11, andhe was trying to put some facts.
And Robert said, honestly, Idon't know too much about that.
But he's the kind of personthat would definitely learn
the subject and next timecome with facts that would
make this journalist put histongue into the place where Joe
(42:42):
Biden was advised to put his700 dollars, because when two
towers falling with explosionson every story of the building
with the speed of free fall andevery specialist seeing that
says it's a planned demolitionof the building, but they not
(43:02):
allowed to say obvious fact.
So for one year, they're sayingwe cannot explain what made
a steel structure collapsefrom collision with the
aluminum airplane fuselage.
We don't know whatmade it collapse.
And this is exactlythe science today.
They saying we can't explainwhy temperature is rising.
(43:22):
This climatologist from Berkeleyjust called this on Twitter
bananas temperature warmingbecause temperatures are going
bananas, and people askinghim on the very same Twitter
thread, what is causing thistremendous warming, so many
hurricanes and everything?
And he goes, I don't know, it'ssomething about El Nino, El Nino
(43:43):
is getting weird, we don't knowwhat's causing deep ocean waters
temperatures to rise, maybeit's this, maybe that, they're
trying to act like specialistswho were working on FEMA team on
the conclusion on 9/11 towers,when they had to say, we cannot
explain what it caused, becausethe only reasonable explanation
(44:06):
is that was a controlleddemolition is not allowed.
Therefore, becausegovernment said it cannot
be so, we don't believewhat our eyes are seeing.
We're believing our ears, andwhat we hear from governmental
sources that it couldn'tbe what it seems to be.
Therefore, we cannottell what it is.
(44:28):
The very same thingis happening here.
There is a very obvioustrend that deep oceanic
water is warming upfaster than the surface.
The only source of the heatis coming from underneath the
planet is the heating up ofmagma, which can be heated
only by the core of our planet.
There is no other sourceof energy in our planet.
(44:50):
And our core only receives thisenergy from outside, just like
X-rays can penetrate the skin,but cannot penetrate the bones.
The external cosmic radiationpenetrates our planet,
our bodies, everything,except for the core.
Bounces of the core, heatsup the magma, magma goes up.
(45:12):
Thinns the plates from within,heats them up, and the ocean.
And it's a very simple model.
You don't have to be agenius or you don't have to
have a master's degree fromBerkeley to comprehend it.
Yet, we have one PhD fromBerkeley who completely
understands this fact Andpresents this information
in the Global CrisisConference like John Ahn did.
(45:36):
And we have anotherclimatologist from Berkeley who
brags about being climatologistand using words like bananas
temperature rising only toattract attention to himself,
but hiding the very obviousfact that he knows perfectly
well that the heating up iscoming from within and cannot
be caused by some imaginaryCO2 percentage because
(45:58):
only 1 percent of that 0.
0.
0.
4 is caused by anthropogenicemissions, and the rest is
coming from natural sourceslike the ocean and the forest,
and he knows perfectly wellabout it, but he cares more
about getting more followerson Twitter rather than
conveying truth to the people.
And this is society we livein, and this is, again,
(46:21):
you in his shoes would beacting exactly the same.
Because you don't care aboutgeneral population, you don't
care about saving humanity.
These words are just nicewords for the beauty contests.
They're not...
being taken seriously by anyonein our society, unfortunately.
When you seeing people whospending their time, resources,
(46:44):
trying to convey thisinformation to you, like heroes,
participants of the CreativeSociety movement, you're
thinking they're either crazyor they're probably getting
something else out of it.
My friends, participants ofthe Creative Society project
understand perfectly wellthat without this project
being implemented, there isno future, neither for them
(47:06):
nor their children, because ingreen zones, you will perish
a little closer to 2036.
And in the yellow zonesand in the red zones, you
will disappear faster.
But the result isgonna be the same.
And what do we exchange it for?
Our convenient silence of ourscience, and not only science,
(47:28):
but ourselves as well, isexchanged just for this warm
bath of comfort that is goingto end up very suddenly when the
ceiling is gonna hit the floor.
And this is about to happen.
Another thing, in 2021,Ida hurricane destroyed
the Grand Isle of Louisianaright next to New Orleans.
(47:52):
And what are we seeing?
The mayor says until there'sone grant of soil to put
American flag into, we'regonna rebuild the Grand Aisle,
we're gonna spend trillionsof budget money, but we're
gonna preserve the place whereI can receive salary, because
what else the guy is gonna do?
He's not needed anywhere besidesthat little barrier island.
(48:14):
And they keep spending a lotof money into rebuilding that
island, which is going to bedestroyed very soon, rather than
spending the very same moneyto build what has to be built
in the places where it's goingto be useful for the people.
And we discussed it multipletimes at the Creative Society.
These are just obvious factsfor anyone who's digging a
(48:36):
little bit deeper, and I washappy to see that many people
on Netflix, and I would liketo say that Netflix is doing
a very good job, not only withAncient Apocalypse, which was
a very remarkable documentary,but also the Earth Storm series,
which we watched contained alot of information about tornado
Ellie getting bigger, DixieEllie getting bigger, which is
(48:58):
a second, even more severe Elliewhen it comes to tornadoes, and
the Giuseppe Mastro Lorenzo, whowas participating at the AllatRa
International Forums and whowas participating at the very
early stages of the CreativeSociety was one of the speakers,
and he described in verybeautiful words as any Italian
(49:22):
can speak very beautifullyand with with nice images.
He actually described what'sgoing to happen to the area
of beloved Southern Italy ofbeautiful cities, historical
cities in the nearest future.
It's actually kindof interesting.
I believe a lot of informationhe has, Giuseppe gained
from interaction withAllatRa international public
(49:44):
movement, which is great.
Even in this way, if it's sharedwith the world, it's great.
The thing is in the film,they didn't emphasize on the
urgency of taking action.
They rather left it up tothe people to decide what
actions needs to be taken.
But even in this form,that is important.
And you know what?
I was watching thisdocumentary only yesterday,
(50:05):
and there was one Mr.
Goldfinger from Portland.
Yes.
he's a scientist and he'sstudying the Earth core,
actually the layers that theytaken out, ,he was emphasizing
that San Andreas fault andthe North Cascadia fault are
about to have a synchronousearthquake, and he was standing
(50:28):
on one of these ugly bridgesacross Portland, and they're
really nasty and ugly, youhave to get better bridges
over there, but he was sayingthat when I'm looking over
Portland, I cannot help butsee just big piles of rubble,
and I don't want to share doomand gloom, but this is true.
(50:49):
This city is not built towithstand a significant
earthquake, which isdefinitely coming up in
here in the nearest future.
Therefore, if you already knowabout it, if you hear these
people, even on mainstreamNetflix TV show, they
telling it straight to you.
Guys, move awayfrom these areas.
(51:12):
Check the maps CreativeSociety presented.
And check those green dots.
I know it's in Ohio.
I know some people incomment section say...
It's better to die than moveto Ohio, but believe me, you
only saying that right now asa joke, but when the situation
is going to get serious, therewill be empty shelves, there
will be lack of resources.
(51:33):
The whole Los Angelesarea is connected with
three roads with mainland.
And I'm talking aboutmainland, like whatever
is behind those mountains.
You're not gonnaget out of there.
There will be lack ofsupplies and people are very
well armed, even in such aliberal state as California.
There is a lot of guns, guys.
And you know that duringthe pandemic, people
(51:55):
were buying toilet paperbecause they were scared.
And guns.
Because they were scared.
So guys, a lot of people,well equipped people, who
are ready to shoot each otherfor a roll of toilet paper
or a canister of gasoline isour inevitability, and there
will be no resources, and notenough, because everybody's
(52:17):
hoping that the governmentwill be there to protect
them from this lawlessness.
Guys, please think twice.
People who trustedgovernments turned into
ashes in Lahaina already.
Those who trusted their gutsare the ones who are still
alive and were able to sharewith us their terrible stories
(52:38):
of escaping Lahaina, of stayingin water for up to eight
hours, when the military basewas only 30 minutes flight,
so helicopter could be there,amphibious ships could be
there, pick them up from thewater, nobody came, people,
because nobody cares aboutthe people, except for us, the
actual people who want to live.
So guys, let's share thisconference with the people, and
(53:02):
let's share our feedback if youreally want to take action, but
we all understand that you'renot gonna do it, because you
have things to do, the sun isstill shining, coffee is still
bitter, gelato is still sweet,and if people in Napoli will
escape, it's good, if they'regonna be stuck in narrow
streets, well, the government isgoing to say it is what it is.
(53:25):
And look, the count of peopleperished in Lahaina went down.
Not up, so the governmentis apparently doing great.
We don't see people complainingand sleeping in the street So
the government is doing great.
You see this trickery howconveniently and easily they
convinced us and made usforget about these things.
(53:47):
But it's not becausethey're so good at trickery.
It's because we're willingto get tricked only to
get this uncomfortablething away from us.
We don't want to thinkabout those things.
We have our lives andour plans and everything.
And that's the problem guys.
We will realize it later, butthen there will be no time to
fix anything, unfortunately.
Alexey (54:09):
Yes, and I wanted to end on a bit of a joke.
Like this old anecdote.
A terminally illpatient asks the doctor.
Doctor, will I live?
And the doctor answers, yes,you will live for some time
more, but you will not like it.
(54:30):
And this is what is goingto happen with life on this
planet, if we do nothing.
Let's stop pretending thatnothing is happening, that
things were always the same.
They were not, and we needto do something about it.
Not just something, butuniting everyone and changing
this world for the better.
(54:51):
So don't be shy.
There is nothingto lose, really.
and you will see that moreand more people will wake up
because of you, because of whatyou are doing, spreading the
information around and justasking the right questions.
And when people answer bythemselves to these questions,
this becomes their ownanswer, and they will hold
(55:13):
to it, and they will spreadthis information forward.
Thank you guys for listening.
Stay tuned, wewill be back soon.
Taliy (55:20):
See you guys.
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