January 2, 2023 • 38 mins
In this episode, we tackled some heavy topics, including the way mass media overloads us with information to distract from what’s truly important, the paradox of increasing productivity without a corresponding decrease in work hours or retirement age, and the true meaning and limitations of democracy. Plus, we discussed the importance of making your voice heard.
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Alexey (00:02):
Hello guys, and welcome We would like to remind once
again that this episode willbe available not only on all
podcasting platforms, butalso on YouTube and Rumble.
You will have the opportunityto watch us speak if this
is something that you like.
And today we wanted to talkwith you that it is very
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difficult, we mentioned acouple of episodes back, that
it is difficult to make vitalinformation rise above the
noise of everything else.
Before we had this informationalvoid, that information
was just withheld and notavailable, and now it is so
(00:46):
I can't even say abundant.
It's overflowing.
We are receivinginformation from everywhere.
I think that soon our fridgesand coffee machines will
also show you some tweets orsomething like that so that you
are being brainwashed going toyour kitchen without even taking
your phone out of the pocket.
And this is something thatreally is concerning, because
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how can people discern what'simportant and what is not?
What is true and what is not?
We've been pondering onthis for quite some time
and, well, the only optionwe came up with is do your
own research and see whatmakes sense and what doesn't.
Because, more often thannot, common sense is not
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what we see in our lives.
We see people ready to believeanything that is shown on
the mainstream media, andthey completely reject things
that are really disturbing,and actually that are true.
And people say, well,this can't be true.
And you ask them, but why?
(01:53):
Oh, just people, they didsomething, they photoshopped
it, they, it's not true.
You know it's not true.
And I don't even know whatto tell people when they're
telling me this becausethey don't want to consider
any alternative views.
What do you think about this?
Taliy (02:11):
Yeah.
You know, When we were growingup, I remember we had a TV, we
had seven channels on it, andthat was the only choice you
get, like whatever is in there.
And we used to think it'sdiversified because you have
seven different owners forthose seven media channels,
and now we live in acompletely different world.
We have so many platforms,but majority of them belong
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to the very same people.
And even when you have slightlydifferent point of view,
that's already considered tobe a threat by the opposite
camp, by the oppositeside of the discussion.
So for a while it wasconsidered that there has
to be a unified position onthis and that, and whoever is
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against it can be easily shutdown, canceled, and so on.
With recent years we're seeingthat big amount of people there,
there is a big demand for alittle bit broader view into it.
I would say right now theproblem is not that we don't
have alternative sourcesof information, the problem
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is really that we have toomany sources of distraction.
And that is where it really is.
Well, okay, somethingreally important happened
in the mass media.
Let's take example that tookplace 13 years ago almost.
It's the example withClimategate when, all of a
sudden, it's a very specifictopic because Climategate is
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something that when it's notthat popular demand usually to
know what climatology that much.
People not that muchinterested in this topic,
generally, climatology, butfor the first decade of 21st
century, it was extremelyhyped up that anthropogenic
CO2, we have to fight it.
And then the, these emailsare being published, which
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exposing the lies behind thegraphs, temperature graphs,
and the whole CO2 proofs.
What did the media do?
First of all, theysilenced the story.
They did not reporton it, anything.
And second of all, theydistracted you with a completely
different story of privatelife of Tiger Woods, how
he got into a car accident,what kind of relationship
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he has with his wife.
And when later people checkedon the internet, the amount
of requests on Google forClimategate and Tiger Woods
was exactly the same, likeabout a hundred thousand per
day per each one of them.
On TV, it was one-sided story.
Everybody were only talkingabout Tiger Woods making it
look like nothing is happeningto Climategate story at all.
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And then the only time theyplayed an episode about the
Climategate was during some NFLgame where everyone's attention
was on the football game.
So you can find a wayto have that information
there, but still distractpeople's attention into
something way less important.
I think right now thereare many different terms
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to talk about this.
You can call it some kind ofinformational campaign, right?
I'm sure these people whoare getting paid really
good money in the mediato create the agenda.
They're very good with it.
We can see how much in thepolitical spectrum the media
has one-sided agenda, and theytalk about certain things under
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certain angles and completelyignore the opposite side of
the story, which might be verywell, even much more important
and people have demand for it.
We don't live in informationalfield, in the free market space.
That's one of the things thatwas considered like free market.
We have free market on whichnews media outlets compete
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with each other and whoeveris making best story that
sells best, that gets thebest number of requests, the
biggest number of demand.
That story sells well.
So you're gonna sell that story.
No, we live in adifferent world.
Now, we live in a worldwhere media controlled by
the people who already havemoney, and they use their media
outlets to push their agenda.
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There was a very interestinginterview I was watching not
so long time ago with a personwho has multimillion dollar
fortune, and what he was sayingthat, at the certain level, when
you passing 20 million dollars,there is not much to buy.
He says, it was thebiggest shock to me.
When I passed 20 milliondollars, there is
nothing more to buy.
Once you have all thediamond watches and 5
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million dollar cars,there's nothing more to buy.
So you start investing forthe sake of investment.
You just think, okay, Imight just make more money.
I might just influence thepublic opinion in certain
way and get politicalpower, because what else
can you do with your money?
You want the influence.
So we see that somehow ourinformational field evolved
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into where it is right now.
And, right now there is stillrelatively large amount of
independent platforms, whichused to be not that much
popular, but recently with allthe cancellations of public
figures and so on, we seethem go into these independent
platforms, which mainstreammedia try to marginalize.
(07:09):
Say that well, you see,that only people with
radical views go there.
We would like to have adifferent kind of story, and we
would like to see them speakingfreely across all platforms.
And here's the question,well, how do you shut down
the hate speech or so on?
I truly believe thatthere should be a strict
punishment for any sortof propaganda of violence.
Alexey (07:30):
I totally agree with that.
Even this word combinationpropaganda of violence.
When we start thinking about whomight be interested in spreading
this kind of information,spreading violence, when on
the outside, everyone seemsto be for peace and peaceful
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coexistence, and absenceof any form of violence, at
least this is what's beingportrayed everywhere, right?
Everyone is saying, guys,we need to fight the crime
and everything, we needto stop all the wars.
And yet what we seeis constant pushing of
division in all forms.
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We have more and more, let'ssay, ways to divide people.
Not only social status, race.
Now we have many genders.
We will not go into this, butthis is something that also
is being done not only forthe purpose of perverting the
whole fabric of society, butto divide people even more.
Taliy (08:36):
Ha, have you heard that joke?
If you guess correctly thegender of your barista at
Starbucks, you get free coffee?
Alexey (08:44):
No, this is something new.
Oh, poor guys.
Poor guys.
Yeah.
Oh, but thi this is, themore you analyze things when
you see people acquiescingall sorts of crazy stuff.
I don't even know whois inventing this.
This is not natural.
(09:04):
So this is not something thatpeople could just discover by,
I don't know, going somewhere,it's not something that
you can find in the books.
Someone came up with theseideas of more and more division.
And what you can see isthat there is a big divide.
Even if you take the exampleof how Jordan Peterson became
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really popular, he was thefirst to refuse to use these
pronouns in Canada, in hisuniversity, in his class.
And he was already a brilliantteacher and professor,
writer, but he was notas known as he is today.
When we see this situation fromthis point of view, yes, of
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course, so he tells great thingsthat make people think, his
voice is heard more and more.
At the same time, you cansee how, not him, but how the
society is divided betweenthose who support the idea
of having people randomlychoose what kind of one of
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the 50 something genders theycame up with, people who say
No, look guys, it's total BS.
There are twogenders and this is.
It's even very strange thatsomeone has to think about it
or that we need some additionalproofs or anything else.
But you see that peopleare clashing violently on
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Twitter and everywhere else.
What is it that theyare trying to defend?
Or what is it thatthey're fighting for?
Why is it so important?
And these are the questionsthat I've been asking
myself for quite some time.
And the, you know, onlyidea that I came up with for
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the moment is that everyonewants to be unique, right?
Different.
And somehow we stillfall into these traps.
That, oh, I will be oneof these many genders,
and I will be unique.
But no, this is notwhat makes you unique.
You are already uniqueas a personality.
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Only you have thislife that you lived.
The conditions that youlive in, they differ and
inner world is different.
So this is somethingthat everyone has.
You don't need to fight for it.
You don't need to proveanything to anyone.
And yet people fall intothese traps, and this is
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very sad that instead ofuniting, because this is what
we need the most right now.
We've been talking aboutthis for quite some time,
that unity is the only wayout of the situation that
we are finding ourselves in.
No matter from which point ofview you approach everything
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that's happening today, allthe crises and shortages
and, from what I've seen,everyone is still thinking
about him or herself.
They think, oh, okay, theywill cut off the electricity.
I bought some camping gas, andpasta, and beans, whatever.
I'm ready for the winter ifthere are electricity cuts.
And some people say, well,yeah, yeah, if yeah, you
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want, I will invite you andwe will be able to cook.
I said, yeah, this is cool, butthis is, this will not solve
the problem globally, right?
This will not solve theproblem for everyone.
And this is also, anotherthing that we can talk about,
is that people are readilyjumping on solving the problem
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that was created for them.
This problem reaction,solution mechanism.
And they already, they don'teven think that this problem
shouldn't be there at all.
The government madeeverything possible not to
have enough electricity.
And yet that they don'tquestion this, they don't
unite with other people tosay, okay guys, we need to
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do something about this.
How is it possible that thegovernment apparatus is bigger
and bigger in every country?
It's eating more and moreof the taxes, and yet they
cannot assure us at leasta decent level of life with
everything that first worldcountries should have, like
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electricity, heating, water.
I don't know.
It really seems that peopleare ready to swallow everything
government has come up with forus, and we are just thinking,
okay, we need to do this.
Because this is something thatwe've been programmed to do.
Okay, you need to do this,so this is the situation.
You need to do this.
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Okay.
So here's anotherproblem for you.
How will you cope with it?
And we are going from oneproblem to another, and
working more and more well,because everything is more
and more expensive, right?
So you need to work more.
And now they've pushed again,for example, in Switzerland
for one more year theretirement age for women.
(14:01):
Now it's 65 years.
Imagine, I guess they madetheir calculations of what
should be the retirement ageso that they don't pay for
long the retirement funds.
Yeah.
There's so much to talk about.
Don't want to go intothis negative spiral of
everything that's happening,but, I would encourage
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people to think why they'redoing what they're doing.
Why are they even trying tosolve the problem without
thinking where did it comefrom, and what to do so that
this problem is not, is notrealized ? It's not happening.
Taliy (14:38):
Yeah, guys, it's actually, it's so funny when you
think about it that we don'teven consider it the really,
really important topics to beup for discussion right now,
like workforce productivity.
At the beginning of the 20thcentury it went up by so much
that it was possible to reducethe number of working hours from
16 to only eight per day, whichwas amazing accomplishment.
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And it was calculated by 1930sthat by the end of 20th century,
the workforce productivity willbe so much higher that it will
be possible to only work fourdays a week, four hours a day,
and make much more income andmake much more product comparing
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to the beginning of the century.
And what do you think, howdid it go regarding the
workforce productivity?
Exactly as predicted.
Even better.
We have even better thanpredicted productivity of
workforce, and right nowwe about to have another
leap on which productivitywill be even higher.
We're gonna be able to achieveamazing results, yet so much
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more for so much cheaperwith mass robotization.
But guys, excuse me, did weforget something on the way?
Where is our reduction ofnumber of working hours?
No, we've being convincedin the complete opposite.
We're being toldthat it's impossible.
We have to work more.
Now we have older generation.
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Our population is getting older.
We have to put the workingage higher, we have to raise
the limits for the workingpeople, and that is crazy.
We getting less and less socialbenefits and we are being
used more and more just asa human labor force, and we
are not even discussing this.
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We're not even thinkingwhy, we're not asking
those questions.
And you know why?
Because we're too distracted.
We're too distractedthinking what that pop
star said yesterday.
Oh, have you seen her concert?
Have you seen her new dress?
Oh wow.
And this kind of, I cannotpick a better word other
than brainwashing withstar and celebrities life.
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It's quite fascinating howpeople discussing Hollywood
stars thinking that theyhave something to do with it.
Like it gives them perceptionas, when they discussing
personal life of this staror that star, that is they
somehow related to it.
Don't fool yourself.
It has nothing to do to you.
It's their personal lifethat should never ever
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affect you by any means.
But we invest so muchattention into there.
We even invest so much attentioninto fighting and standing for
the rights of people to callthemselves certain genders and
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Guys, we are all screwedbeyond recognition.
If we don't do anythingabout the certain topics,
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like, check out the numbersof climatic refugees.
Tomorrow, you're gonna beone of them, but who cares?
Today it's much more importantto discuss the topics of how do
we call each other, how manygenders there are, and so on.
Not saying it's not importantto give people freedom
of self-identification.
People are free to callthemselves whatever they
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want, but for some reason whenwe having people thinking
outside of the box and reallybecoming popular on exposing
certain human qualitieson their TikTok accounts
like aliensoul was doing.
So this girl who claims thatshe is coexisting with an
alien soul inside of her body.
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She exposing certain thingsand she was rejected to
self-identify as an alien,even though all the visual
checks, all the tests of hervideo were proven to be legit.
Guys, same thing happening withecology and climate change.
People are fiercely fightingand spending tons of their
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calories on fight for sortingplastic, which end up in the
very same garbage landfills,but people don't spend time
to find out why the planetis warming from the inside.
And that's very interestingthat just a year ago, this was
a complete conspiracy theory,nobody would talk about it
beyond a small group of peoplewho actually studied geophysics
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and geothermal activity.
But today it's a known fact.
It's a fact that's beendiscussed in mainstream media.
And it works like that.
The more people actuallyinvest their attention into
something, it becomes more andmore well-known fact . And even
the funny example, if you takethe most absurd thing possible.
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If somebody's gonna say youhave to paint your ears into
green color to actually beaccepted in the society.
They gonna laugh at you first,they gonna say, what a nonsense.
But the more and more weinvest our attention into
it, first thing's gonnahappen, we're gonna see some
people that actually paintingtheir ears into green color.
And after a little while, itwill be impossible for someone
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to walk in the streets withoutears being colored green
because it'll be sociallyunacceptable not to do it,
and we see it happening now.
Something that has been sociallyunacceptable has been turned
into a complete opposite, guys.
But can we use thevery same mechanism for
the positive things?
Of course, by itself, oneperson cannot do much,
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but if we unite, we can.
We definitely can.
How do we do it?
Actually, anyone who hasseen the conferences by
Creative Society Global Crisiscan make this difference.
And I'm actually reallyfascinated by how many people
joining us, but people whowatching us and kind of
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watching in a shadow mode,they seeing us, but they
don't post anything out there.
That is the problem, guys,that if you consume content but
you don't create any, you'rejust wasting your attention.
So the most important thing as,when I was meditating on it,
thinking about how can we makea difference, the secret is
to fill up the informationalfield with your thoughts.
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Like share-it.
And people are afraidto say something wrong.
of course the, there is a hugepressure of being canceled,
fired, and whatever whats on.
I would say execute yourfreedom of free speech
and get good at it.
There is no other way to getgood at it other than practice,
because practice makes perfect.
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And Jordan Peterson didn'tbecome Jordan Peterson in a day.
It took him decades.
And if you see how he wasworking, how he was precisely
thinking on the samethoughts over and over again.
I don't agree with everything hesays, but there is a lot to it.
For example, he stronglyadvocates for a strict
structure and management,and he says there has
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to be concept of power.
He's confusing managementstructure with power,
there has to be no powerin one person's hands.
But if responsibility.
Yeah, totally.
The manager hasmore responsibility.
And that's it.
That's the whole difference.
And the whole argument ispeople making an argument in
a place where should be noargument because they missing
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some piece of the puzzle.
For example, we takingthe climate change action.
People don't know what'shappening inside of our
planet, so they arguing aboutthe ecology, about plastic
recycling and so on, becausethey don't know the rest.
It's not because our mindsetis weak, it's because
our mindset is lackingcertain pieces of a puzzle.
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That's why ourjudgments are weak.
Not because our mindset isweak, but because our picture
of the world is not complete.
It's missing certain parts.
So I never assume Iknow more than I do.
I only make judgment basedon the information I know.
But in the field where I'mmaking judgements, I'm trying
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to expand it as much aspossible, get as many sides
of the argument as possible.
And you know for a whileyou, when you are only given
choice between two sides, youlooking at two of them and
you're trying to figure outwhich one should I support?
Is it Democrats or Republicans?
These guys are pro-choiceand these are pro-life.
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Which one is better?
This guy's trying to expandbase of voters by forcing
them to give birth, and thisone's trying to bring aliens
from neighborhood countries.
At the end, both ofthem only interested in
expanding their power.
But there is a third way thatyou're not being told about.
The third way is not toempower any structures, but
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to execute your power throughonline platforms and build
a self-governing society.
And that is something thathas been an option on the
table for more than a decade.
We've been having all necessarytechnologies to make it
come true, but we have notyet executed this option.
So, will we, guys?
That is the question.
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And how to let people knowthat there is this option on
the table, Alex, because I'vebeen thinking like, okay, this
is right there, but peopledon't even know about it.
Alexey (23:52):
How?
Well, we are working onthe how for quite some
time already, right?
We are trying to inventdifferent things, go
to different platforms.
We are doing TikTok lives,answering people's questions.
We do forums, and there will bemuch more coming in the months.
We already know of at leastthree or four planned for
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different parts of the world,but they will be streamed
obviously for everyone.
And you know, I've been thinkingalso about this thing that every
social network that we have,theoretically, and I also think
in practice, they would like tohave the entire population of
the planet on their platform.
So they are ready to expandthe server base, scale
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it to accept everyone.
And we have polls everywhere.
Every group onFacebook or Telegram.
I don't know exactlywhat's the limit right now.
Is it 2 million people in onegroup or something like that?
It's not billions, but somenetworks they count in billions,
like Facebook, even thoughpeople are fleeing it, but
you can see that we have thetechnological possibilities.
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If we want, we havethese possibilities.
Everyone wants to have a sayin things that matter to them.
And these things canbe as local as possible.
Like the house where you live,the apartment house, or your
neighborhood, or your city.
I don't know, maybe a districtor your like counties, whatever.
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People would be willing todo it if they knew that this
would make a difference.
That what they are choosing,that if they had an opportunity
to see how these decisionsare being implemented.
And we are coming back to thetransparency, to the fourth
foundation of Creative Society.
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We are coming back to thetransparency of information.
Of course, onlytransparency will not work.
We need to repeat that theeight foundations have to be
implemented altogether as aframework, as the basis of, of
legal system of every country.
Once you understand thatwe have the technological
possibilities, have alreadyall the ideas, and I know our
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group of lawyers, specialists,participants of the Creative
Society Project, they work,they have like weekly calls, and
they work on different aspects.
They talk about how thiscan be implemented in this
country and in that country.
The only thing that's missingis the unity of people that
decide that we need this.
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And of course, for people toknow that there is a choice,
they at least need to beinformed about the existence of
this choice that they can make.
I would say the best way to doit is to understand yourself,
what you're talking about.
Just go to creativesociety.comand read, watch the videos.
Or, you can hit us onany social network.
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We are @episodikal everywhere.
Or you have all theCreative Society official
channels everywhere.
Instagram, Twitter, Telegram.
Everywhere you go there arepeople, that would be really
happy to answer your questions,and the more people understand
the beauty of this idea andthe feasibility that it is
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possible to make it alreadywith what we have today.
It's not something that weneed you know, to come up
with some sort of mechanism.
We have alreadyall the mechanisms.
It's just a matter ofdeciding and a little bit of
reorganization just to say that,okay guys, we want to do it.
And all the things thatwe've been talking about on
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this podcast, all the crazystuff that's going on in the
world, we can get rid of this.
We can decide that we arenot living anymore following
orders made by peoplethat don't have your best
interest in mind, for sure.
Look how we lived forthe last 10, 20 years.
Did it get any better?
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Would we say that justhaving smartphones or
better computers, bettercameras, is something that
has really changed ourlives for the better?
No.
Of course, yes, we can say thatnow we have the possibility
with the internet andeveryone having a smartphone
connected to the internet,now we can unite more easily.
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This is true.
But are we usingthis possibility?
Are we using really thispossibility to unite, or
we're using it to divide onceagain, as we started this
conversation today ? We talkedabout all the different ways
that we, people, are findingto distance from each other.
And we are still usingthe same tools that could
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be used for the good.
We are using them tomake things worse.
So maybe it's time toreconsider and just think,
okay, we tried this way.
We really tried it very hardto live as we are living
today, and we see that thingsare just getting worse.
Every day something bad,something new is announced.
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Like this article that yousent me that Switzerland
plans to ban electric cars.
Well, good luck with that.
You were convincing peopleto switch to electric for
the past several years, andpeople invested in electric.
It's not only with this, Ithink I mentioned this couple of
times already, that in one ofthe apartments where we lived,
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we had the electric heating.
And it was promoted as thebest new thing and the only way
to go, as the electric cars.
Now, the electric heating isbanned already, this is done.
Now they're going toban the electric cars.
Maybe not, because theyhave another project, right
in, Europe to completelystop production of gas
powered cars by 2035.
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Well, guys, we have badnews that there will be
no need for cars in 2035,because there would be
maybe no roads to drive on.
But yeah, we shouldreally stop and think.
This is something that wealso talked about today that
we are always trying, jumpingon finding the solution,
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running wild to execute.
Okay, here's the problem, justgo find a way to deal with it.
And this is not howyou are being taught.
I can speak from the perspectiveof diving, for example.
What you are being taughtwhen you have a problem is
just stop, think, and then do.
We should stop.
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We should stop and think, andthis is something that a lot
of people don't think they havethe possibility, but everyone
has the possibility to stopfor at least half an hour,
an hour, and really, try tohave an honest look on your
life of people around you,will you be able to say that
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things are going in the rightdirection for anyone you know?
Independently of their socialstatus, of their wealth?
I see people, very wealthypeople, who also have to change
habits now, because thingsare changing for everyone.
It's just they're changingon a different level, and,
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independently, none of uslikes the changes in our
routines, in our possibilities,and it would be okay.
We showed how our livescould be during the forum.
Beautiful videos of life andthe possibilities of people
living in the Creative Society.
Every time I think aboutthis video, I start smiling,
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because it's like a dream,really is something that
we can do, and for this weneed to unite, not divide.
So yeah, I would really, reallyencourage everyone to make
an idea for yourself, whatis Creative Society for you?
Let's make it like ahomework for everyone.
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Think what is CreativeSociety for you?
Taliy (32:00):
What is Creative Society for you?
What's your visionof the future?
Many people these daysdon't have the vision of
the future, and that's also,we're coming back to the
topic we discussed before.
You gotta create yourinformational field.
If you only consumingand you're not creating,
then you only consumingsomebody else's vision.
Either it comes to socialmedia creating content, or on
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a global level on the visionof our future as a society.
Before there is anythinghappening in the material
world, there's alwaysinformational foundation to it.
Whether you have a thought,whether you have a vision.
I'm not saying we have tovisualize, but we have to at
least know how it's gonna be.
And when we're talking aboutall the amazing technologies
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that have been presented, andI think it's the brilliant
part about "Global Crisis.
Our Survival is in Unity"conference, excuse me,
online forum, that people,finally, get to see
what it might look like.
And, the best part, peoplewatch it and they be like, oh,
it's 150 years from now, maybe.
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You're like, no, it can beour reality within five years,
because we already have mostof the technologies necessary
for it, and it would take alittle bit to develop the rest.
The problem is not that, theproblem is social and economical
problem is the biggest problemwhy we don't put them to work,
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already existing technologies.
They just sitting thereon shelves because nobody
knows what to do with it.
If people stying silent,people don't do anything,
then it's useless.
Think about us as asociety in general.
If you zoom out little bitand take a look from space,
we live at this very small,relatively small planet,
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you can get from one side toanother just in half of a day.
These people cannot get along.
There is so many of themon this planet Earth.
But they all serve tosome rulers who rule by
the borders that a whileago someone conquered.
There was some rulers, somesavages, some sometimes ago,
that decided this is their land,and they forced their people to
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accept certain laws, and now we,the grand grandchildren of those
people, have to obey, and theyeven make us be proud of serving
to a certain dictatorship.
And they call it freedom.
They call it even nicewords like democracy
and other things.
They don't say that democracyis demos cratos, and demos is
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a privileged layer of people.
It was never about allpeople, because all people
plebos, it's a different word.
Even in Greek language, theynever had a right to vote
at those central squareswhere they used to make
decisions, the forums, right?
Yeah.
So when we have GlobalForum, for all the people.
Another question that isbeing asked, like how can
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we make a society in whicheveryone has a voice?
Because some people thinkthey are privileged, they have
the voice, but the others areapparently not so advanced.
Guys, will live in a societywhich purposely interested in
making you not free people,let's put it this way, right?
With no ability to thinkcomprehensively, for example,
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and to be easily manipulated.
Unfortunately, this is true.
We like it or not.
And the question is, if we wantto thrive as a society, we have
to build a society where eachone of us is contributing and
has abilities to contribute ona larger scale, on a smaller
scale, on any scale, but isvery valuable as a human being
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because each one of us has apotential, and if we apply all
of it into one, I don't wannasay image, but one concept of a
future, we can make it happen.
So it's much easierto accomplish.
I would like to ask allof you in the comments to
write one thing that you areexcited about our future.
What is the most amazing, thing,besides flying cars, of course.
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Those are cool, guys,but not sure when those
are coming around.
But something that youwould like to see happening
in our nearest future.
What are you excited about?
Please let me know whenthe comments below.
And to me, it's of course thepassport of the citizen of the
world, because that video hasbeen booming on the internet.
It went viral, and everyonehas been asking, is it real?
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Is it real?
Are we gonna be able totravel around the world
with this passport ofthe citizen of the world?
And without borders, withoutvisas, without all the
humiliations we have togo through at the borders.
Taking your shoes off.
Put your hands up.
We're gonna put some radiationon you, and, guys, come on!
We can make it work much safer.
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The technology is already there.
There is a video whereex-president of the previous
president of the US, hewent into Middle Eastern
countries, and he was like,holy guacamole, their airports
make our airports look likemedieval times . Like that,
they, this is how some countrieswent with their glory, with
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their beautiful structures andso on, and we can spread the
very same beauty across all ofour planet and make it just as
safe, and make our people feeljust as protected, and everyone
has a voice to speak up.
That is really excitingthing about the future.
I'm really looking forward.
Hello guys, and welcome We would like to remind once
again that this episode willbe available not only on all
podcasting platforms, butalso on YouTube and Rumble.
You will have the opportunityto watch us speak if this
is something that you like.
And today we wanted to talkwith you that it is very
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difficult, we mentioned acouple of episodes back, that
it is difficult to make vitalinformation rise above the
noise of everything else.
Before we had this informationalvoid, that information
was just withheld and notavailable, and now it is so
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I can't even say abundant.
It's overflowing.
We are receivinginformation from everywhere.
I think that soon our fridgesand coffee machines will
also show you some tweets orsomething like that so that you
are being brainwashed going toyour kitchen without even taking
your phone out of the pocket.
And this is something thatreally is concerning, because
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how can people discern what'simportant and what is not?
What is true and what is not?
We've been pondering onthis for quite some time
and, well, the only optionwe came up with is do your
own research and see whatmakes sense and what doesn't.
Because, more often thannot, common sense is not
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what we see in our lives.
We see people ready to believeanything that is shown on
the mainstream media, andthey completely reject things
that are really disturbing,and actually that are true.
And people say, well,this can't be true.
And you ask them, but why?
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Oh, just people, they didsomething, they photoshopped
it, they, it's not true.
You know it's not true.
And I don't even know whatto tell people when they're
telling me this becausethey don't want to consider
any alternative views.
What do you think about this?
Taliy (02:11):
Yeah.
You know, When we were growingup, I remember we had a TV, we
had seven channels on it, andthat was the only choice you
get, like whatever is in there.
And we used to think it'sdiversified because you have
seven different owners forthose seven media channels,
and now we live in acompletely different world.
We have so many platforms,but majority of them belong
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to the very same people.
And even when you have slightlydifferent point of view,
that's already considered tobe a threat by the opposite
camp, by the oppositeside of the discussion.
So for a while it wasconsidered that there has
to be a unified position onthis and that, and whoever is
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against it can be easily shutdown, canceled, and so on.
With recent years we're seeingthat big amount of people there,
there is a big demand for alittle bit broader view into it.
I would say right now theproblem is not that we don't
have alternative sourcesof information, the problem
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is really that we have toomany sources of distraction.
And that is where it really is.
Well, okay, somethingreally important happened
in the mass media.
Let's take example that tookplace 13 years ago almost.
It's the example withClimategate when, all of a
sudden, it's a very specifictopic because Climategate is
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something that when it's notthat popular demand usually to
know what climatology that much.
People not that muchinterested in this topic,
generally, climatology, butfor the first decade of 21st
century, it was extremelyhyped up that anthropogenic
CO2, we have to fight it.
And then the, these emailsare being published, which
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exposing the lies behind thegraphs, temperature graphs,
and the whole CO2 proofs.
What did the media do?
First of all, theysilenced the story.
They did not reporton it, anything.
And second of all, theydistracted you with a completely
different story of privatelife of Tiger Woods, how
he got into a car accident,what kind of relationship
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he has with his wife.
And when later people checkedon the internet, the amount
of requests on Google forClimategate and Tiger Woods
was exactly the same, likeabout a hundred thousand per
day per each one of them.
On TV, it was one-sided story.
Everybody were only talkingabout Tiger Woods making it
look like nothing is happeningto Climategate story at all.
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And then the only time theyplayed an episode about the
Climategate was during some NFLgame where everyone's attention
was on the football game.
So you can find a wayto have that information
there, but still distractpeople's attention into
something way less important.
I think right now thereare many different terms
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to talk about this.
You can call it some kind ofinformational campaign, right?
I'm sure these people whoare getting paid really
good money in the mediato create the agenda.
They're very good with it.
We can see how much in thepolitical spectrum the media
has one-sided agenda, and theytalk about certain things under
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certain angles and completelyignore the opposite side of
the story, which might be verywell, even much more important
and people have demand for it.
We don't live in informationalfield, in the free market space.
That's one of the things thatwas considered like free market.
We have free market on whichnews media outlets compete
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with each other and whoeveris making best story that
sells best, that gets thebest number of requests, the
biggest number of demand.
That story sells well.
So you're gonna sell that story.
No, we live in adifferent world.
Now, we live in a worldwhere media controlled by
the people who already havemoney, and they use their media
outlets to push their agenda.
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There was a very interestinginterview I was watching not
so long time ago with a personwho has multimillion dollar
fortune, and what he was sayingthat, at the certain level, when
you passing 20 million dollars,there is not much to buy.
He says, it was thebiggest shock to me.
When I passed 20 milliondollars, there is
nothing more to buy.
Once you have all thediamond watches and 5
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million dollar cars,there's nothing more to buy.
So you start investing forthe sake of investment.
You just think, okay, Imight just make more money.
I might just influence thepublic opinion in certain
way and get politicalpower, because what else
can you do with your money?
You want the influence.
So we see that somehow ourinformational field evolved
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into where it is right now.
And, right now there is stillrelatively large amount of
independent platforms, whichused to be not that much
popular, but recently with allthe cancellations of public
figures and so on, we seethem go into these independent
platforms, which mainstreammedia try to marginalize.
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Say that well, you see,that only people with
radical views go there.
We would like to have adifferent kind of story, and we
would like to see them speakingfreely across all platforms.
And here's the question,well, how do you shut down
the hate speech or so on?
I truly believe thatthere should be a strict
punishment for any sortof propaganda of violence.
Alexey (07:30):
I totally agree with that.
Even this word combinationpropaganda of violence.
When we start thinking about whomight be interested in spreading
this kind of information,spreading violence, when on
the outside, everyone seemsto be for peace and peaceful
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coexistence, and absenceof any form of violence, at
least this is what's beingportrayed everywhere, right?
Everyone is saying, guys,we need to fight the crime
and everything, we needto stop all the wars.
And yet what we seeis constant pushing of
division in all forms.
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We have more and more, let'ssay, ways to divide people.
Not only social status, race.
Now we have many genders.
We will not go into this, butthis is something that also
is being done not only forthe purpose of perverting the
whole fabric of society, butto divide people even more.
Taliy (08:36):
Ha, have you heard that joke?
If you guess correctly thegender of your barista at
Starbucks, you get free coffee?
Alexey (08:44):
No, this is something new.
Oh, poor guys.
Poor guys.
Yeah.
Oh, but thi this is, themore you analyze things when
you see people acquiescingall sorts of crazy stuff.
I don't even know whois inventing this.
This is not natural.
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So this is not something thatpeople could just discover by,
I don't know, going somewhere,it's not something that
you can find in the books.
Someone came up with theseideas of more and more division.
And what you can see isthat there is a big divide.
Even if you take the exampleof how Jordan Peterson became
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really popular, he was thefirst to refuse to use these
pronouns in Canada, in hisuniversity, in his class.
And he was already a brilliantteacher and professor,
writer, but he was notas known as he is today.
When we see this situation fromthis point of view, yes, of
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course, so he tells great thingsthat make people think, his
voice is heard more and more.
At the same time, you cansee how, not him, but how the
society is divided betweenthose who support the idea
of having people randomlychoose what kind of one of
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the 50 something genders theycame up with, people who say
No, look guys, it's total BS.
There are twogenders and this is.
It's even very strange thatsomeone has to think about it
or that we need some additionalproofs or anything else.
But you see that peopleare clashing violently on
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Twitter and everywhere else.
What is it that theyare trying to defend?
Or what is it thatthey're fighting for?
Why is it so important?
And these are the questionsthat I've been asking
myself for quite some time.
And the, you know, onlyidea that I came up with for
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the moment is that everyonewants to be unique, right?
Different.
And somehow we stillfall into these traps.
That, oh, I will be oneof these many genders,
and I will be unique.
But no, this is notwhat makes you unique.
You are already uniqueas a personality.
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Only you have thislife that you lived.
The conditions that youlive in, they differ and
inner world is different.
So this is somethingthat everyone has.
You don't need to fight for it.
You don't need to proveanything to anyone.
And yet people fall intothese traps, and this is
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very sad that instead ofuniting, because this is what
we need the most right now.
We've been talking aboutthis for quite some time,
that unity is the only wayout of the situation that
we are finding ourselves in.
No matter from which point ofview you approach everything
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that's happening today, allthe crises and shortages
and, from what I've seen,everyone is still thinking
about him or herself.
They think, oh, okay, theywill cut off the electricity.
I bought some camping gas, andpasta, and beans, whatever.
I'm ready for the winter ifthere are electricity cuts.
And some people say, well,yeah, yeah, if yeah, you
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want, I will invite you andwe will be able to cook.
I said, yeah, this is cool, butthis is, this will not solve
the problem globally, right?
This will not solve theproblem for everyone.
And this is also, anotherthing that we can talk about,
is that people are readilyjumping on solving the problem
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that was created for them.
This problem reaction,solution mechanism.
And they already, they don'teven think that this problem
shouldn't be there at all.
The government madeeverything possible not to
have enough electricity.
And yet that they don'tquestion this, they don't
unite with other people tosay, okay guys, we need to
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do something about this.
How is it possible that thegovernment apparatus is bigger
and bigger in every country?
It's eating more and moreof the taxes, and yet they
cannot assure us at leasta decent level of life with
everything that first worldcountries should have, like
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electricity, heating, water.
I don't know.
It really seems that peopleare ready to swallow everything
government has come up with forus, and we are just thinking,
okay, we need to do this.
Because this is something thatwe've been programmed to do.
Okay, you need to do this,so this is the situation.
You need to do this.
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Okay.
So here's anotherproblem for you.
How will you cope with it?
And we are going from oneproblem to another, and
working more and more well,because everything is more
and more expensive, right?
So you need to work more.
And now they've pushed again,for example, in Switzerland
for one more year theretirement age for women.
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Now it's 65 years.
Imagine, I guess they madetheir calculations of what
should be the retirement ageso that they don't pay for
long the retirement funds.
Yeah.
There's so much to talk about.
Don't want to go intothis negative spiral of
everything that's happening,but, I would encourage
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people to think why they'redoing what they're doing.
Why are they even trying tosolve the problem without
thinking where did it comefrom, and what to do so that
this problem is not, is notrealized ? It's not happening.
Taliy (14:38):
Yeah, guys, it's actually, it's so funny when you
think about it that we don'teven consider it the really,
really important topics to beup for discussion right now,
like workforce productivity.
At the beginning of the 20thcentury it went up by so much
that it was possible to reducethe number of working hours from
16 to only eight per day, whichwas amazing accomplishment.
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And it was calculated by 1930sthat by the end of 20th century,
the workforce productivity willbe so much higher that it will
be possible to only work fourdays a week, four hours a day,
and make much more income andmake much more product comparing
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to the beginning of the century.
And what do you think, howdid it go regarding the
workforce productivity?
Exactly as predicted.
Even better.
We have even better thanpredicted productivity of
workforce, and right nowwe about to have another
leap on which productivitywill be even higher.
We're gonna be able to achieveamazing results, yet so much
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more for so much cheaperwith mass robotization.
But guys, excuse me, did weforget something on the way?
Where is our reduction ofnumber of working hours?
No, we've being convincedin the complete opposite.
We're being toldthat it's impossible.
We have to work more.
Now we have older generation.
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Our population is getting older.
We have to put the workingage higher, we have to raise
the limits for the workingpeople, and that is crazy.
We getting less and less socialbenefits and we are being
used more and more just asa human labor force, and we
are not even discussing this.
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We're not even thinkingwhy, we're not asking
those questions.
And you know why?
Because we're too distracted.
We're too distractedthinking what that pop
star said yesterday.
Oh, have you seen her concert?
Have you seen her new dress?
Oh wow.
And this kind of, I cannotpick a better word other
than brainwashing withstar and celebrities life.
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It's quite fascinating howpeople discussing Hollywood
stars thinking that theyhave something to do with it.
Like it gives them perceptionas, when they discussing
personal life of this staror that star, that is they
somehow related to it.
Don't fool yourself.
It has nothing to do to you.
It's their personal lifethat should never ever
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affect you by any means.
But we invest so muchattention into there.
We even invest so much attentioninto fighting and standing for
the rights of people to callthemselves certain genders and
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Guys, we are all screwedbeyond recognition.
If we don't do anythingabout the certain topics,
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like, check out the numbersof climatic refugees.
Tomorrow, you're gonna beone of them, but who cares?
Today it's much more importantto discuss the topics of how do
we call each other, how manygenders there are, and so on.
Not saying it's not importantto give people freedom
of self-identification.
People are free to callthemselves whatever they
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want, but for some reason whenwe having people thinking
outside of the box and reallybecoming popular on exposing
certain human qualitieson their TikTok accounts
like aliensoul was doing.
So this girl who claims thatshe is coexisting with an
alien soul inside of her body.
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She exposing certain thingsand she was rejected to
self-identify as an alien,even though all the visual
checks, all the tests of hervideo were proven to be legit.
Guys, same thing happening withecology and climate change.
People are fiercely fightingand spending tons of their
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calories on fight for sortingplastic, which end up in the
very same garbage landfills,but people don't spend time
to find out why the planetis warming from the inside.
And that's very interestingthat just a year ago, this was
a complete conspiracy theory,nobody would talk about it
beyond a small group of peoplewho actually studied geophysics
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and geothermal activity.
But today it's a known fact.
It's a fact that's beendiscussed in mainstream media.
And it works like that.
The more people actuallyinvest their attention into
something, it becomes more andmore well-known fact . And even
the funny example, if you takethe most absurd thing possible.
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If somebody's gonna say youhave to paint your ears into
green color to actually beaccepted in the society.
They gonna laugh at you first,they gonna say, what a nonsense.
But the more and more weinvest our attention into
it, first thing's gonnahappen, we're gonna see some
people that actually paintingtheir ears into green color.
And after a little while, itwill be impossible for someone
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to walk in the streets withoutears being colored green
because it'll be sociallyunacceptable not to do it,
and we see it happening now.
Something that has been sociallyunacceptable has been turned
into a complete opposite, guys.
But can we use thevery same mechanism for
the positive things?
Of course, by itself, oneperson cannot do much,
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but if we unite, we can.
We definitely can.
How do we do it?
Actually, anyone who hasseen the conferences by
Creative Society Global Crisiscan make this difference.
And I'm actually reallyfascinated by how many people
joining us, but people whowatching us and kind of
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watching in a shadow mode,they seeing us, but they
don't post anything out there.
That is the problem, guys,that if you consume content but
you don't create any, you'rejust wasting your attention.
So the most important thing as,when I was meditating on it,
thinking about how can we makea difference, the secret is
to fill up the informationalfield with your thoughts.
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Like share-it.
And people are afraidto say something wrong.
of course the, there is a hugepressure of being canceled,
fired, and whatever whats on.
I would say execute yourfreedom of free speech
and get good at it.
There is no other way to getgood at it other than practice,
because practice makes perfect.
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And Jordan Peterson didn'tbecome Jordan Peterson in a day.
It took him decades.
And if you see how he wasworking, how he was precisely
thinking on the samethoughts over and over again.
I don't agree with everything hesays, but there is a lot to it.
For example, he stronglyadvocates for a strict
structure and management,and he says there has
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to be concept of power.
He's confusing managementstructure with power,
there has to be no powerin one person's hands.
But if responsibility.
Yeah, totally.
The manager hasmore responsibility.
And that's it.
That's the whole difference.
And the whole argument ispeople making an argument in
a place where should be noargument because they missing
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some piece of the puzzle.
For example, we takingthe climate change action.
People don't know what'shappening inside of our
planet, so they arguing aboutthe ecology, about plastic
recycling and so on, becausethey don't know the rest.
It's not because our mindsetis weak, it's because
our mindset is lackingcertain pieces of a puzzle.
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That's why ourjudgments are weak.
Not because our mindset isweak, but because our picture
of the world is not complete.
It's missing certain parts.
So I never assume Iknow more than I do.
I only make judgment basedon the information I know.
But in the field where I'mmaking judgements, I'm trying
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to expand it as much aspossible, get as many sides
of the argument as possible.
And you know for a whileyou, when you are only given
choice between two sides, youlooking at two of them and
you're trying to figure outwhich one should I support?
Is it Democrats or Republicans?
These guys are pro-choiceand these are pro-life.
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Which one is better?
This guy's trying to expandbase of voters by forcing
them to give birth, and thisone's trying to bring aliens
from neighborhood countries.
At the end, both ofthem only interested in
expanding their power.
But there is a third way thatyou're not being told about.
The third way is not toempower any structures, but
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to execute your power throughonline platforms and build
a self-governing society.
And that is something thathas been an option on the
table for more than a decade.
We've been having all necessarytechnologies to make it
come true, but we have notyet executed this option.
So, will we, guys?
That is the question.
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And how to let people knowthat there is this option on
the table, Alex, because I'vebeen thinking like, okay, this
is right there, but peopledon't even know about it.
Alexey (23:52):
How?
Well, we are working onthe how for quite some
time already, right?
We are trying to inventdifferent things, go
to different platforms.
We are doing TikTok lives,answering people's questions.
We do forums, and there will bemuch more coming in the months.
We already know of at leastthree or four planned for
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different parts of the world,but they will be streamed
obviously for everyone.
And you know, I've been thinkingalso about this thing that every
social network that we have,theoretically, and I also think
in practice, they would like tohave the entire population of
the planet on their platform.
So they are ready to expandthe server base, scale
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it to accept everyone.
And we have polls everywhere.
Every group onFacebook or Telegram.
I don't know exactlywhat's the limit right now.
Is it 2 million people in onegroup or something like that?
It's not billions, but somenetworks they count in billions,
like Facebook, even thoughpeople are fleeing it, but
you can see that we have thetechnological possibilities.
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If we want, we havethese possibilities.
Everyone wants to have a sayin things that matter to them.
And these things canbe as local as possible.
Like the house where you live,the apartment house, or your
neighborhood, or your city.
I don't know, maybe a districtor your like counties, whatever.
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People would be willing todo it if they knew that this
would make a difference.
That what they are choosing,that if they had an opportunity
to see how these decisionsare being implemented.
And we are coming back to thetransparency, to the fourth
foundation of Creative Society.
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We are coming back to thetransparency of information.
Of course, onlytransparency will not work.
We need to repeat that theeight foundations have to be
implemented altogether as aframework, as the basis of, of
legal system of every country.
Once you understand thatwe have the technological
possibilities, have alreadyall the ideas, and I know our
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group of lawyers, specialists,participants of the Creative
Society Project, they work,they have like weekly calls, and
they work on different aspects.
They talk about how thiscan be implemented in this
country and in that country.
The only thing that's missingis the unity of people that
decide that we need this.
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And of course, for people toknow that there is a choice,
they at least need to beinformed about the existence of
this choice that they can make.
I would say the best way to doit is to understand yourself,
what you're talking about.
Just go to creativesociety.comand read, watch the videos.
Or, you can hit us onany social network.
(26:53):
We are @episodikal everywhere.
Or you have all theCreative Society official
channels everywhere.
Instagram, Twitter, Telegram.
Everywhere you go there arepeople, that would be really
happy to answer your questions,and the more people understand
the beauty of this idea andthe feasibility that it is
(27:16):
possible to make it alreadywith what we have today.
It's not something that weneed you know, to come up
with some sort of mechanism.
We have alreadyall the mechanisms.
It's just a matter ofdeciding and a little bit of
reorganization just to say that,okay guys, we want to do it.
And all the things thatwe've been talking about on
(27:38):
this podcast, all the crazystuff that's going on in the
world, we can get rid of this.
We can decide that we arenot living anymore following
orders made by peoplethat don't have your best
interest in mind, for sure.
Look how we lived forthe last 10, 20 years.
Did it get any better?
(27:59):
Would we say that justhaving smartphones or
better computers, bettercameras, is something that
has really changed ourlives for the better?
No.
Of course, yes, we can say thatnow we have the possibility
with the internet andeveryone having a smartphone
connected to the internet,now we can unite more easily.
(28:21):
This is true.
But are we usingthis possibility?
Are we using really thispossibility to unite, or
we're using it to divide onceagain, as we started this
conversation today ? We talkedabout all the different ways
that we, people, are findingto distance from each other.
And we are still usingthe same tools that could
(28:43):
be used for the good.
We are using them tomake things worse.
So maybe it's time toreconsider and just think,
okay, we tried this way.
We really tried it very hardto live as we are living
today, and we see that thingsare just getting worse.
Every day something bad,something new is announced.
(29:05):
Like this article that yousent me that Switzerland
plans to ban electric cars.
Well, good luck with that.
You were convincing peopleto switch to electric for
the past several years, andpeople invested in electric.
It's not only with this, Ithink I mentioned this couple of
times already, that in one ofthe apartments where we lived,
(29:26):
we had the electric heating.
And it was promoted as thebest new thing and the only way
to go, as the electric cars.
Now, the electric heating isbanned already, this is done.
Now they're going toban the electric cars.
Maybe not, because theyhave another project, right
in, Europe to completelystop production of gas
powered cars by 2035.
(29:47):
Well, guys, we have badnews that there will be
no need for cars in 2035,because there would be
maybe no roads to drive on.
But yeah, we shouldreally stop and think.
This is something that wealso talked about today that
we are always trying, jumpingon finding the solution,
(30:09):
running wild to execute.
Okay, here's the problem, justgo find a way to deal with it.
And this is not howyou are being taught.
I can speak from the perspectiveof diving, for example.
What you are being taughtwhen you have a problem is
just stop, think, and then do.
We should stop.
(30:30):
We should stop and think, andthis is something that a lot
of people don't think they havethe possibility, but everyone
has the possibility to stopfor at least half an hour,
an hour, and really, try tohave an honest look on your
life of people around you,will you be able to say that
(30:53):
things are going in the rightdirection for anyone you know?
Independently of their socialstatus, of their wealth?
I see people, very wealthypeople, who also have to change
habits now, because thingsare changing for everyone.
It's just they're changingon a different level, and,
(31:16):
independently, none of uslikes the changes in our
routines, in our possibilities,and it would be okay.
We showed how our livescould be during the forum.
Beautiful videos of life andthe possibilities of people
living in the Creative Society.
Every time I think aboutthis video, I start smiling,
(31:37):
because it's like a dream,really is something that
we can do, and for this weneed to unite, not divide.
So yeah, I would really, reallyencourage everyone to make
an idea for yourself, whatis Creative Society for you?
Let's make it like ahomework for everyone.
(31:57):
Think what is CreativeSociety for you?
Taliy (32:00):
What is Creative Society for you?
What's your visionof the future?
Many people these daysdon't have the vision of
the future, and that's also,we're coming back to the
topic we discussed before.
You gotta create yourinformational field.
If you only consumingand you're not creating,
then you only consumingsomebody else's vision.
Either it comes to socialmedia creating content, or on
(32:23):
a global level on the visionof our future as a society.
Before there is anythinghappening in the material
world, there's alwaysinformational foundation to it.
Whether you have a thought,whether you have a vision.
I'm not saying we have tovisualize, but we have to at
least know how it's gonna be.
And when we're talking aboutall the amazing technologies
(32:45):
that have been presented, andI think it's the brilliant
part about "Global Crisis.
Our Survival is in Unity"conference, excuse me,
online forum, that people,finally, get to see
what it might look like.
And, the best part, peoplewatch it and they be like, oh,
it's 150 years from now, maybe.
(33:05):
You're like, no, it can beour reality within five years,
because we already have mostof the technologies necessary
for it, and it would take alittle bit to develop the rest.
The problem is not that, theproblem is social and economical
problem is the biggest problemwhy we don't put them to work,
(33:25):
already existing technologies.
They just sitting thereon shelves because nobody
knows what to do with it.
If people stying silent,people don't do anything,
then it's useless.
Think about us as asociety in general.
If you zoom out little bitand take a look from space,
we live at this very small,relatively small planet,
(33:45):
you can get from one side toanother just in half of a day.
These people cannot get along.
There is so many of themon this planet Earth.
But they all serve tosome rulers who rule by
the borders that a whileago someone conquered.
There was some rulers, somesavages, some sometimes ago,
that decided this is their land,and they forced their people to
(34:08):
accept certain laws, and now we,the grand grandchildren of those
people, have to obey, and theyeven make us be proud of serving
to a certain dictatorship.
And they call it freedom.
They call it even nicewords like democracy
and other things.
They don't say that democracyis demos cratos, and demos is
(34:29):
a privileged layer of people.
It was never about allpeople, because all people
plebos, it's a different word.
Even in Greek language, theynever had a right to vote
at those central squareswhere they used to make
decisions, the forums, right?
Yeah.
So when we have GlobalForum, for all the people.
Another question that isbeing asked, like how can
(34:53):
we make a society in whicheveryone has a voice?
Because some people thinkthey are privileged, they have
the voice, but the others areapparently not so advanced.
Guys, will live in a societywhich purposely interested in
making you not free people,let's put it this way, right?
With no ability to thinkcomprehensively, for example,
(35:15):
and to be easily manipulated.
Unfortunately, this is true.
We like it or not.
And the question is, if we wantto thrive as a society, we have
to build a society where eachone of us is contributing and
has abilities to contribute ona larger scale, on a smaller
scale, on any scale, but isvery valuable as a human being
(35:36):
because each one of us has apotential, and if we apply all
of it into one, I don't wannasay image, but one concept of a
future, we can make it happen.
So it's much easierto accomplish.
I would like to ask allof you in the comments to
write one thing that you areexcited about our future.
What is the most amazing, thing,besides flying cars, of course.
(35:59):
Those are cool, guys,but not sure when those
are coming around.
But something that youwould like to see happening
in our nearest future.
What are you excited about?
Please let me know whenthe comments below.
And to me, it's of course thepassport of the citizen of the
world, because that video hasbeen booming on the internet.
It went viral, and everyonehas been asking, is it real?
(36:22):
Is it real?
Are we gonna be able totravel around the world
with this passport ofthe citizen of the world?
And without borders, withoutvisas, without all the
humiliations we have togo through at the borders.
Taking your shoes off.
Put your hands up.
We're gonna put some radiationon you, and, guys, come on!
We can make it work much safer.
(36:43):
The technology is already there.
There is a video whereex-president of the previous
president of the US, hewent into Middle Eastern
countries, and he was like,holy guacamole, their airports
make our airports look likemedieval times . Like that,
they, this is how some countrieswent with their glory, with
(37:03):
their beautiful structures andso on, and we can spread the
very same beauty across all ofour planet and make it just as
safe, and make our people feeljust as protected, and everyone
has a voice to speak up.
That is really excitingthing about the future.
I'm really looking forward.
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