21st Century Movie Musicals Draft (w/ Jean-Pierre Boudreaux)

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me. Hello and welcome to the
Establishing Shot, a podcast where we do deep dives and two
directors and their filmographies.
So we will not be doing that today.
However, today is one of our funmiddle of the road episodes

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where in between right now we'rein between West Side Story,
which JP Boudreaux, who's here with me today, join me for last
week. Great conversation on that
movie, which we both loved. Next week we'll be doing the
Fableman's, but we're going to do a movie draft episode today.
So to go along with Spielberg's West Side Story, we are going to

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be drafting 1st century movie musicals.
I'm ready to dance, fight our way into this draft for sure.
Yes, I've been working on my pirouettes and my twirls and my
snapping. Get your swing plate handy.
You know or you know, a rocket in my pocket.
Whoa, OK, there you go. Just.

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Going by. It's a revolver, guys.
I'm talking about the revolver. Come on, you guys all know I can
still carry. In your pockets.
But I'll be cool. But I'll, I'll keep.
Cool. OK, All right, all right, fair.
Tell the tell the people what our ground rules we agreed to

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is. Yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about the ground rules.
Well, OK, first, before we get into the ground rules, what
makes this is the big question. What makes a movie?
We talked about it probably a lot last week, but maybe
someone's jumping in for the first time today.
What makes a movie musical distinct from a stage musical to
you? I mean, obviously the big part

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is the perspective. And yeah, like, obviously if you
go watch a musical on stage, you're in your seat and that's
your only view when you're filming it.
You can move the camera in and out of position.
You can do a lot of other thingsto bring the audience into the
moment as well as something we talked about is, you know, a lot
of very traditional stage plays,musicals included, that don't

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include microphones and things like that.
Although most musicals probably would have some kind of
microphone, but you're often having to perform, you're
performing for the back row, right?
You're projecting, you know, so sometimes.
Bigger. Right, Exactly, exactly bigger.
Like you literally have to be more over the top with
everything because you want the people all the way the back to
be able to see. So you have to do a twirl in a

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movie. You might just do like a little
like put in a musical on a stage.
You have to do twice as much effort for people to to see
what's happening. And so you can kind of lose some
of the intimacy sometimes in a, in a, a musical stage play that
you can regain when you have a camera that you're bringing in.
And I think you just have again,I I not, not to say that there's

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anything wrong with like a stageplay musical, but.
Oh no, yeah, I think you just different mediums.
You have, you just have so many more resources available when
you're doing it as a film and you have a a much more, I don't
want to say, I don't know if uniques the right word, but you
have a much more maybe intriguing way to be able to

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present the material. Yeah, well, I think so.
I think the big difference to meis in a stage play, the
audience, you as the audience member, you kind of in a lot of
ways choose where to put your focus.
And so in that sense, one of thecool things I think about a
stage play is especially with with stage plays where there's a

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lot of moving parts. You know, you have a lot of
people on stage for, for instance, for West Side Story
that we covered last week, maybeat a time, there's a lot of
stuff going on. Hamilton is another thing, but
there's a ton of stuff going on on stage all at a time.
And so the cool thing about a stage play is you as the
audience member get to kind of decide what to focus on and what

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to watch. And so you can go several times
and kind of like pick out different new things that you're
that you're noticing going on. And so there's that that kind of
element that is really cool about a stage play, whereas in
in a movie musical, you know, the director in the

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cinematographer are making thosechoices for you.
But in that you also are able tolike hone in and focus on the
point that's trying to be drivenor the moment or the character
that you're you're wanting to focus on in those more like
cinematic moments that kind of focus your attention.
So I think they they both have like their advantages and

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they're like, you know, they're different, you know, because
obviously stage, there's people that just love stage plays and
would go, you know, as often as I go to the movies to see a
stage play, I don't really have that.
We don't really have that here in Lafayette, LA as an option.
But yeah, you know, they both have their advantages as far as

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like a medium to express storiesand and whatnot.
But yeah, for a movie musical, it's, to me, it's just all about
like what what decisions are like the film makers making to
like focus your attention, to give you like experiential
moments of perspective. Like you were saying that you

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can't really get like from watching a whole stage of
people. Yeah.
And so here's my second question.
Why are musicals so much more rare in the 21st century?
Or is that just like, am I perceiving that are they
actually more rare than they used to be now?
Or were they always kind of morerare, but we just weren't

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experiencing it in the moment and back then?
I don't know. It just feels like you don't get
as many musicals as you used to.I don't know.
Do you have any thoughts on that?
Well, you know, I was kind of inin researching for this.
I pulled up on Wikipedia. They have a page of list of

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musical films by year, and as far as I can tell, believe it or
not, there has not been a singleyear that has not included like
quite a few musical films. Now it's very obvious that like
after the 50s it starts to kind of go down and you can kind of
see it kind of trending down over the years.
But pretty much every year there's at least like 10 to 15

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like musical sort of films that could be that could be included.
I do think obviously this is including like animated movies,
including like direct to DVD sequels and like, like it's
including everything that could be considered a musical, even if
it's like, like I think I think I'm seeing on here, like one of
the options is like Leprechaun in the hood, which, you know,

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hopefully you weren't going to pick that one for your draft.
And like, I don't, I've, I've never seen that movie.
I know of it. And I'm like, I don't know why
that we could be considered a musical.
I'm guessing there's a couple like hip hop moments in the
movie or something. I don't know.
But but yeah, it's just it's just interesting or yeah, so I'm
looking at this list. I'm like, there's definitely
some movies on here that I'm like, that's not a musical.

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I don't know why you're calling it a musical, you know, so so I
think it's it's not necessarily that they're more rare.
I think that we just don't get alot of most of them are not on
the level of like a West Side Story.
Most of them are not being released in theaters.
A lot of these are either going to be animated or they're going
to be, you know, these days you'd be like direct to
streaming probably. And I think that's the biggest

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thing is that they're just they're not it's the same thing
as like westerns, right? Sure, like westerns are rare but
we usually get at least a few like high like you know higher
profile ones. They get some kind of theatrical
release a year still. Yeah.
But you go back to like the 40s or the 50s and like every movie

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was a budget. So I think a lot of it has to
just do with just an over saturation and people just get
kind of sick of it. You know, I think that's kind of
where we're starting to get withlike superhero medium now in
some way, or at least specifically the MCU.
I feel like the MCU is definitely starting to kind of
lose some steam with people. You see some of the last couple

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of films if not really done as well as they wanted.
I think people are just kind of like, I don't know if it's so
much they're they're tired of them or people are finally
realizing that the quality is starting to really wane per SE.
But at the same time, I say thatwhile we also have like the DCU
just now fully launching. So so I think maybe this the

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superhero bubble is a little bitdifferent because there's so
much material to to pick from. But I but I do think that when
when a certain genre is really latched onto in every single
movie seems to be following thatgenre, they just start to kind
of fall off after a while because audience are like, oh,

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great. Like I'm sure they're like in in
the in the somebody's grandma was like, oh, wow, another
musical. Love it.
Yeah. You know Fred Astaire.
Right, exactly, and also he has to think about the 2 is like
back then there wasn't any way to like consume the musical
outside of going to see the filmright projected in the.
Theater, Yeah. There's no, there's no home

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video version of it. There's no, there's not really a
recording you could take home necessarily.
And you couldn't just go watch all the classics instead at
home. Right.
Exactly, exactly. Whatever we're.
Showing at the theater, Yeah. So I think that's that's part of
it too. But but yeah, I know we just, we

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just live in such a different, such a different world.
No. And so I think that there are
still musicals more often than we realize.
They're just not on the same level as they used.
To be, yeah, I was going to say too, it's probably, I was going
to say like would bet that it's a lot to do with marketability
too these days. Musicals probably used to be a

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lot more marketable to a wider audience.
And it just seems like these days, any given person you say
like, hey, do you like musicals?You get a lot of like, there's
not a lot of like people that are just like all in ready and
excited for the next musical that comes out.
I think when you have stuff likeWicked comes out, that's like a

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big deal. Like that can help the general
public's like opinion on musicals.
But yeah, it's I think it's a marketability thing.
Like studios aren't going to puta bunch of money behind a
musical because they just don't feel like AY dot, they're going
to make money off of it at the end of the day.
So and I mean, there's a there'sa a little bit of truth to that.

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We just talked about how Spielberg lost money on West
Side Story and it's a huge like it's a huge production, like
phenomenal movie is still lost money.
Now, part of that is because it was coming out of COVID, I
think, but I don't know that it would have been done like if it
released today, if it would havedone like a ton better, it would

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have done better for sure, but Ithink it still would have been
like only making a little bit ofmoney, like net, you know?
Yeah, probably I, I think. Because it was over $100 million
movie. Yeah, yeah.
And I and I, I really hate to say this, but I really think you
got to. I really just got to latch on to

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to the viral marketing. I mean I'm thinking about like K
Pop Demon Hunters which I've notwatched but it's just apparently
taking the world by storm. It's really good I'll.
Probably see it eventually, but.You should watch it.
It's it's honestly. I saw I'm on Netflix, so I have
to either use watch it while I met someone else's house that
has Netflix or, yeah, find, findother ways that I wouldn't know

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how to do. But but yeah, so I, I think the
same time, like I always, alwaysreally cool to see something
like that become really popular because it's like it's something
different, you know, like I, I remember when Squid Game
exploded, I was very happy because I'm like, I love seeing
people. I mean, not I mean K Pop team
hunters, like it's an English language film and it's made by

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Sony animation. But people consuming something
that's kind of representative ofanother culture, I think is
great, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
Well, let's set the ground rulesfor our drafts.
The big one is this is 21st century movie musicals.
So we're talking about movies released from 2000 to today, the

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year 2000 to today. So not 1999, not 2026, but but
from 2000 to the day. So that's the big one.
The other thing we are we're notdoing like, so musical can be a

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broader term to also include things like jukebox music,
jukebox musicals or like musicalbiopics, which are like you can
think of things like Bohemian Rhapsody or Rocket Man, which
are like biopics about artists. And there are performances that
are like artistically placed in the film to relate to the

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artist. Like there is that sort of
thing, but is more like a biopicthan a musical.
And so we're we're not really including stuff like that.
So we're doing it. We're going with like the
traditional way you think of musicals.
So that's that's the second ground rule.
The third one is where each allowed one animated musical.

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So you can think you're Disney musicals or, you know, there's,
you know, I, I kind of doubt you're going to choose Trolls,
but something like Trolls I I guess could probably count as a
musical. Literally any of the like the
Pitch Perfect films, you know? Would be the.
Way we talk about nevermind I completely miss missed the plot

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about I never thought about jukebox musical anime.
Yeah, Pitch Perfect would be like a jukebox musical.
Not really a musical. They're just kind of singing
songs all throughout. That's true.
That's true. It's like that's the other side
of it too. It's like, OK if if they just
sing a song, is that a musical? No, it's not.

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I I I wouldn't say so either. I.
Think I have a movie that I consider a musical that my wife
and other people I've talked to say definitely not a musical.
Well, because they they will letpeople decide.
They just sing songs. They're performing songs
throughout, but they the songs are like originally written for

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the movie and they do play into the plot.
It's just like they're not just like breaking out into song per
SE. So I don't know.
And there's maybe like my to my wife.
There's not enough of those music moments in the movie
either. What?
What do you think is like the bare minimum for a musical?
How many? How many musical numbers?
I don't know, like for let's sayfor like an hour, 30 hour, 45

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minute movie. I mean, you probably want at
least like what, 7, five to seven at least?
See, I think 5 is kind of what Ifelt like is the bare bit of
yeah, 5 good songs. Yeah.
And this one that I'm talking about definitely has I.
Mean because West Side Story haslike.

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West Side Story has like 10. Yeah, it's like 2 1/2 hours.
So I mean, that's, I mean, do you feel like there'll be more
in that? Kind of, yeah.
But then you, you get something like Jesus Christ Superstar,
which like the whole thing is songs like rock opera, you know?
Well, I'll be asking you this before we get into it.

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What what, what, what is your, what's your opinion on a musical
versus like a rock opera? Do you have like a preference?
No, I, I don't know that I've seen enough rock operas per SE,
like, like I'm thinking of like Phantom of the Paradise is like
a rock opera, and that's really good.

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Well, I just, I just read. It's like, it's like, like a
musical is like. Phantom of the Opera is a rock
opera for. For what It, have you ever seen
Phantom of the Opera? Yeah, Yeah, it's a rock opera.
I mean, it's, it's got a lot of like electric guitar parts, I
mean. It's like all the rock stuff

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too. Is is not not necessarily
meaning rock music, but it's meaning like yeah, rock opera is
a term for like almost from beginning to end, almost every
single thing is sung versus a musical is like.
That's how spoken opera is, though.
And then breaking, yeah, I mean,a little bit, yeah.
No, it is like the like I would say probably like 90% of 90% or

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more of Phantom of the Opera's sung.
Yeah, maybe so. It's been a while since I saw
but that's that's like my. Mom so maybe Phantom of the
Paradise, maybe not because there's it's broken up with
dialogue and song, but but Phantom of the Opera, like the
actual we watched it back. Me and me and my wife did a
musical March back in March. And so we watched a bunch of

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musicals in the month of March, some just us 2, some with the
kids. So we watched the I can't
remember which recording it was of the Phantom of the Opera.
I had never seen it before. Like a Broadway recording.
Yeah, it was. It wasn't Broadway.
It was like the London one. It's like it's like the main.
When you look it up, it's like the main one.

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With Michael Crawford as the Phantom.
I don't know. I don't remember who who the.
Yeah, that's my mom's very musical and she loves that
version of The Phantoms. Gotcha.
Yeah, I mean, I can tell you in 2 seconds because I have it
pulled up. No, it's Ramin Karimlu.
Karimlu, it's the The Phantom ofthe Opera at the Royal Albert

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Hall is, if you like, look it up.
That's what it's 2011. I mean, yeah, let's do we need
any more ground rules or any more?
Nah, we're good. Let's get into this.
Let's jump into it. I unfortunately you have the
first pick because I picked first when we did our movie
presidents draft. So now it's your turn to pick

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first. Again, there's a lot about it.
There's a lot of power here because I, because I, I know
there's probably a couple reallyheavy hitters we're both going
to be trying to go for. Yeah, you think so?
I do, I do and I I could think of two that I that I really
would love to have my list and Iprobably pause.
Yes, just like all other typicalmovie drafts we're doing like

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this is the West Side Story. It's the like the the main
honorable mention. Are we agreeing on that?
Oh yeah, of course. Because I think it might be my
number one choice if we were, ifit was on the board it.
Wouldn't be my number one choice, but that's fair.
That's fair enough. OK.
Yeah. OK.
Go ahead, go ahead. OK so so you know a little fun

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fact about me, I think I've talked about this, but like I
grew up in a family that was very musical.
My mom loves musicals Broadway'smy sister especially.
She used to watch she watch start listening to a new musical
and she would watch or listen toit for weeks on end learning
every single song. Annoying if I'm honest.
But one of the one of the movies.
And I think I think I got to start with this one of the

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movies that she watched every day for like 3 weeks straight
that at first I was really annoyed, didn't want to watch.
And then there was a scene of itthat caught my attention and I
finally watched the entire thingand I think.
It is probably one of the greatest musicals ever to put to
film, especially considering everything was sung 100% live.

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I think I'm going to open up with 2012's version of Les
Miserables with Hugh Jackman anda bunch of other people.
Phenomenal cast, phenomenal music, phenomenal
cinematography, everything you. Jackman and a lot of other
people you got to mention. I was, I was, yeah.
And got the way by name. So I'm sorry, I was just

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blanking on Eddie Redmayne, Amanda, Sacha Baron, He's great.
You know, Helen Blakeen Carter. I mean, I there's is a ton of
great, great, great, great like performers in there.
And especially like it's really cool seeing Hugh Jackman
considering that like a little fun fact for the audience.
If you don't know, like prior toWolverine, he was actually a

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Broadway actor in Australia. And so this was kind of his his
returning to musical theatre of sorts prior to like the greatest
showman, which I actually kind of hate that movie.
But but anyway so Les Miserablesspoiler.
JP will not be that. Will not be the greatest, the
greatest showman. I'm sorry y'all, any of y'all

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out there like that movie. Have fun there.
Are a lot of people, there's a lot of fans of that movie.
So you might have, you might have just ruined your chances at
winning. That's true.
That's true. I I mean I thought I watched
that and I was like this feels like they wrote the songs 1st
and then they tried to figure out how to put a musical around
it. That's fair.

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Anyway, yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of that either, to
be honest. But but yeah, I don't mind it.
But yeah, so yeah. Lim is directed by Tom Hooper,
who also directed 2019's Cats So.
Which? That's also on the board.
Spoiler I don't think either of us would be picking that one

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either, but I never. Seen it so.
Me neither, but I was. I was too scared by CGI cat suit
Taylor Swift. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and good picks that Who's that British guy?
The the gym. Yeah, he does the The Late Show.

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Yeah, James Corden, that's. Corden.
Corden. Yeah, yeah.
Good pick. I haven't seen this version of
late. Dang.
Well, this is the only version I've seen.
No, no, no, I haven't seen it since I saw it in theaters.
I was trying to remember if I'veseen it since then, but yeah I
haven't seen this since I saw itin theaters.
I want to say after musical March, I didn't watch Lee miss.

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Well, we tried to watch ones, a lot of ones we haven't seen
before. OK, fair, fair.
And so fill in a lot of blind spots.
So. Yeah.
And then the month is only so long.
So eventually it was April and April.
Musical April doesn't sound as good.
That's true. I remember loving this movie
back when I saw it, but I haven't seen it since then.

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It's one of those that like I have it on my list, but it would
be like if I was taking it, I itwould kind of be like, I think I
would still love this movie, butI don't I don't know.
It's kind of it's kind of one ofthose movies that like some
people really love, some people are kind of man on and then
there's some people that like are like, Ah, not very good.

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It's kind of got people on all ends of the spectrum.
Yeah, I I also feel like I I really love Key and Peele's
parody of Les Mis. Like the sketch.
I don't think I've. Seen that?
It's so funny. I've seen a lot of their stuff,
but I don't think I've seen. That like they have a full on
sketch that they did for their show years ago after this movie

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came out where they match like the vibe and the set and they're
just like kind of making fun of like.
Because. Like I think the joke about Les
Mis specifically is like it's got a lot of like everybody's
singing different things at the same time.
Sure, yeah. Which so I think it's kind of
the magic of musicals is like the ensemble and I really love
but but I do know that some for some people might be a bit much.

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Yeah. And so, but yeah, I think, I
think, yeah, I so I recommend for anyone who is a fan of
musicals, if you haven't seen that sketch, literally just go
to YouTube key and Peele Les Misand I'm sure you'll be able to
find it. And highly recommend watching
that. You'll get a good a good giggle
out of that for sure, yeah. I also know I also am.

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I also am remembering I saw thisin theaters with my ma who which
is my grandma. That's what I call her.
So shout out to her. She's whenever I've seen movies
with her in my life, she is likeshe always wants to pull the
moral of the story out right after you see the movie and try
to figure out what the moral this.
And I don't remember what she did with Les Mis, but I mean

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that's chock full of morals of the story, so I'm sure she had
something for that one. But yeah, I bet you she's like,
she's like an A tier post movie discussion circle member.
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I remember seeing King Kong with
her, the James Cameron King Kongand she was like she was ready
man with her take away. Peter Jackson.
Peter Jackson, Yeah, I don't know why I said.

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I don't know what a James Cameron King Kong movie would
look like. It'll probably look really good.
I mean, maybe if we're talking like aliens James Cameron, but
not Avatar James Canyon. I Adam.
OK, you. I'm glad you made that pic so
that I can make the pic. Probably the other movie you

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were going to pick. Yeah, probably.
Yeah. I'm going with 2016's La La Land
by Damien Chazelle. Yeah, I mean, took the world by
storm, won an Oscar for two seconds and won a Best picture
Oscar for two seconds. Before it was taken away.
Won best picture anyway. Moonlight is a great movie.

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I like La La Land more, but it was one of those where it's
like, yeah, OK, I can see, I cansee it, you know, it's a great
movie. But yeah, La La Land, I'll say
this too. It's it is a it's not a like a
remake, but it is a hugely, it'sa hugely inspired by the story

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of one of my other favorite all time musicals, which is the
umbrellas of Schaeburg, great, great French musical, which is
completely sung by Jacques DeMille.
If you haven't seen that movie, you should see it.
It's great. But but yeah, Ryan Gosling and
Emma Stone just making movie magic.

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It's just great. It's just great all around.
It's it's not like cliche in theright ways when it you know,
it's cliche when it needs to be.But doesn't like sit in the
cliche, obviously with like the ending and what not.
But yeah, I, I love La La Land. I think everybody loves La La

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Land. Every once in a while, one of
the songs I'll catch myself humming, even though I probably
haven't seen it in like a coupleyears at this point since I saw
it last. But still, those songs just like
pop up in my head. So yeah, La La Land.

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Yep, that's one of them. Yeah.
All right, from here, I don't know where you're going to go.
Honestly, I have no clue. So.
Yeah, I, I definitely got a couple others that I, I very
strongly want to be able to haveon my list, but we'll, we'll see
how it goes. So, OK, I think I think for, for
my, my next pick, I think I got to go for one that I feel like

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even if you don't like musicals,you would probably like this
movie because because I, I wouldsay it's a musical for people
who don't like musicals. Because I, I think that the
overall vibe of it, a lot of people could really get behind.
It's got a great cast, great team in front and behind the
camera. I think I got to go with 2007's

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Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street, Johnny Depp,
Elena Bowen Carter, Alan Rickman, directed by Tim Burton.
So you already, if you like the Tim Burton vibe, there's plenty
to love here. It's it's a really like, it's
like a really stunning film to like look at visually, even
though it's got kind of a bit ofa washed out colour palette.

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But then when the when when the blood shows up, it kind of helps
counteract that, right, because they make it real high.
And so it's, it gives it and, and like the whole world is like
this very it like it's in color,but everything's like very black
and white and Gray. And so except for a couple very
like key things like certain people's hair or if a blood

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shows up or this person's wearing this particular outfit.
So but yeah, I mean, the songs in it are great.
There's definitely not as many as some other musicals, but but
what do you, what do you think about that?
When I say I think, I think it'sa musical for people who maybe
wouldn't traditionally like musicals, but I think this one's
a little bit more conceivable maybe.
I think the Tim Burton of it allprobably helps in in that

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regard. And Johnny Depp's great.
I think it's one of the. Best Roles and Helena Bottom.
Carter's doing her thing that she always does and it's always
pretty great. So this is another one I haven't
seen. It's been even probably even
longer. I don't think I've seen it since
I was in high school. I think when I saw that, I saw
it I probably a couple of times during high school, but I don't

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think I've seen it since. And I wasn't really into
musicals in the high school per SE.
I wasn't like anti musical, I guess, but I wasn't like, oh,
let me go watch a musical. So I really liked it back then.
And so that probably is a point in favor of your point of a
musical for people who aren't really into musicals

(30:33):
necessarily. But yeah, I, it was definitely
on my list. I was probably going to pick it
at some point if you didn't justbased, even though it's been so
long since I've seen it. But yeah, yeah, good pick.
Can't go wrong with Yeah, you can't.
Well, I won't spoil what the movie.

(30:54):
What happens in the movie? Yeah, tasty.
I'll just say that. You run for that one, bro.
OK, you know, you know. Yeah, if you know, you know.
OK, so we are picking 1 animatedeach.
We're allowed one animated one. If we were if it was like
unlimited animated, they the list might just be a bunch of

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Disney, Disney movies. That'd be so yeah, that would be
boring. So we're doing one each.
I don't think I'm going to pick mine yet, even though I highly
regard my top choice and I don'teven know if this movie that I'm
about to pick, I don't even know.
Like if it's on your radar, but I am going to go with Lin Manuel

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Miranda's 2021 film Tick, Tick, Boom, starring Andrew Garfield
as Jonathan Larson. The it's kind of the story of
him writing and getting rent done ready or it's it's really

(31:58):
like the failed project before he writes rent more so.
And it's based off of like a kind of solo, a solo musical
sort of show that Jonathan Larson performed called Tik Tik
Boom. And so this is like Lin Manuel

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Miranda's like musical version of like adaptation of his it it
there's a lot going on with it. But have you seen this movie?
Have you seen Tick Tick Boom? I've I've not, it was definitely
man, it's definitely a movie that's been on my radar that I
want to get around to one of these days.
Love Andrew Barfield, Vanessa Hudgens.
I know she's in and she was a bit of a childhood crush of mine

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for sure. Yeah, I don't know.
I will eventually I'll get around to it, but and I've seen
some clips of some of the songs and stuff and it looks like it's
it's pretty solid. Yeah, it's really, really great.
It's a lot of lot of fun and it's got some really, really
catchy tunes too. And so yeah, it it's just I

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wasn't sure if you'd seen it or not, but I just had to take it
right here because it's probablythe next like non animated one
on my list that I like the most.So yeah, tick, tick, boom.
I mean, you can't go wrong with Lin Manuel Miranda, so.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, that's my pick. Where are you going next?
All right, man, you know, there there's just so many choices

(33:23):
surprisingly. But I, but I think I got, I got
to honor a real classic at this point, you know, as I said, a
musical that I really love and Ispecifically love the film
version of. And growing up, it was very
highly regarded in my household.I think I got to go with 2004 as
the fan of the opera. OK.

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I think I haven't seen that. I think this is a great like,
it's just a great film, like theway it's shot.
It's got that really great gothic vibe to it.
And personally, and this is a good value, very controversial
to the real what what, what do you what do you call like
musical fans? Are they music heads or?

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I don't know. Show Tune addicts.
I don't know, you show tuners out there.
Yeah, probably a hot take, but Gerald Butler is my favorite
phantom. I think he sounds great in this
movie. Emily Rosum sings like an Angel.
He also Patrick Wilson in a veryin a kind of an earlier role in
his career in this movie as as the count Divicont whatever they

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say in French. I can't remember, but.
But yeah, it's just a fun. It's just a really fun musical
and yeah, just overall just a really good vibe in this film, I
think. Yeah, I forgot this is directed
by Joel Schumacher too, which iskind of interesting.
Yeah, definitely one of his. I would.

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I would assume it's better than Batman and Robin.
It's it's definitely better made.
I mean, Batman and Robin is a fun movie.
Sure, Yeah. Batman Forever I think is better
than Batman and Robin, but they're both.
Oh yeah. I would agree.
But yeah, I mean, I, I watched Phantom of the Opera for the
first time, like the state of filming of the stage production

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back in March and thought it wasincredible.
The performers in that particular recording, like were
incredible, like chills, like chill bumps on my skin,
incredible on some of the in some parts of the movie or of
the performances. So, yeah, I can see how this

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would be a good, like there could be a good movie adaptation
of it. Yeah.
So I haven't seen this, but maybe next March, maybe next
March, we'll watch this version of it.
Yeah. And it's, it's interesting,
everyone, as far as I know, everyone in the film does their
own singing. I don't think they sang on
Saturday except for Mimi Driver,who plays Carlotta, which is

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very interesting because she shehas some very infamous, like
very operatic moments. And so she is dubbed over, but
there's actually a song that shesings on the over the end
credits. It's her voice sounds good.
She just couldn't do like the operatic stuff necessary to play
Carlotta. So that is kind of interesting.

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But I think it's a great adaptation of the musical and
great, great production design too.
Like just recreating kind of thevibe of like, you know, 18th,
3rd, seventeen, 18th, 3rd, 19th century Paris, whenever it's
like the 1830s, whatever it is. So yeah, I recommend that as
well. OK, this is my third pick.

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I think I'm going to hold off onanimated again.
I have so I have one that's likea off the wall pick that's just
like I don't know that it it's it's one of those that I might
do on my last pick if I'm feeling like feeling crazy,
because it's definitely not going to give me any votes in

(37:04):
the poll because I don't think anyone has seen this movie
that's going to be voting in these polls.
So I might hold off on that. I'm going to do 1.
So this is one that I think is Imean, it's it's I'm by picking
this, I might be kind of cheating and have being able to
do an animated and I still have a Disney movie 2 Disney movies,

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but this is one that I don't love this, but I do think it's a
lot of fun and has a really great lead performance by Amy
Adams. If this is going to tip you off,
but I'm going to pick enchanted.It's a really fun movie, kind of
the the classic Princess movie obviously starts off animated

(37:49):
for not very long before it's live action.
So I don't think it's an animated movie.
But yeah, I, I enjoyed, I I saw this with my wife years ago.
I had never seen it back when itcame out, but I enjoyed it.
I thought it was a lot of fun. And yeah, has all the things you
want from a Princess movie. And Amy Adams, like, really

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sells you on that kind of ditzy character.
That's the Princess character that they're kind of playing off
of. So yeah, that's my pick.
OK, great. OK, think I think for for my my
4th pick here, I think I got to go.
I think, you know, I'm a man of the people.
Yeah, you know for sure. And I think I think I got to

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give the people what they want Do it, you know, give it to for
for us, for us millennials. I got a little nostalgia pick
for you. OK, one that, you know, arguably
probably isn't a great movie, but kind of following up with
you about, you know, having potentially having 2 Disney
movies, one of them which being animated, although maybe I'll

(38:54):
pick a non Disney animated movie.
But I think we would be remiss if we don't include at least one
High School Musical. OK, I think, I think I got to
throw High School Musical in as my 4th pick.
One of those movies that like, you know, if I go back today and
watch it, I'm probably going to think it's pretty cheesy.
But some of those songs are great.
I mean. So here's here's the thing.

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This together every once. Here's the thing, I have never
seen any of the high school musicals.
Well, I've never seen them, but I still I still know the words
to some of the songs. It's a cultural.
So there you go. It was a cultural moment then.
Yeah, I remember when that firstone came out, bro.
Every. I mean, yeah, everyone loved it.

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Everyone. For sure.
And, and I think it was, it was a theatrical release, right?
It wasn't like a Disney Channel movie.
I'm pretty. Sure.
I don't know. I think it might have been a it
might have been AD com that got a theatrical release because it
was so big. It does say it's a television
film, but I mean. Yeah, it's a it's AD com for
sure, but I do think it did get some some theatrical love too.

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But yeah, I mean, I was like, I would have been like a sophomore
somewhere in there in high school when this movie came out
and so. I was in 6th grade.
Yeah. And so like I was kind of at
that like too, too cool for school age.

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So that's probably why I never really watched it.
But and then and now I'm at the point where I'm like, I don't
really have any reason to go watch it other than like.
Maybe when your kids a little really.
Wanted to force me to watch it with her so.
Do you know, do you ever, do youever feel like you have to be
careful about what movies you let your kids watch, even if

(40:43):
they're age appropriate? Because then they're going to
want to watch it over and over and over again.
Oh no, we just, we don't, we don't do that.
So. OK, great, great.
If they want to watch it over and over again, it's just like,
no, we're not watching that so. That easy, huh?
We do the same thing. We do the same thing with music.
Yeah, we're we're not. We're not a kid controlled

(41:04):
family. We make the decisions because
we're the adults. I don't really understand these
families that are like, we had to listen to Baby Shark in the
car again. I'm like, why?
Like aren't you controlling the phone?
I don't really get it personallyso.
Turning into a controversial parenting parenting podcast.

(41:25):
This is my podcast so I can stay.
I I didn't, I didn't mean, I didn't mean to.
To hit such a such a nerve there, man.
Oh well. Man, it's just one of those
things that like, I'm always like, but why, why your kids
control it? I don't know.
But my, our kids aren't like theonly thing they want to watch
over and over again is Bluey. And I'm kind of OK with that.

(41:47):
Like it's because they're like 8minute episodes and I can be
like, OK, just two Blueys and then, you know, we're done.
So we we we limit the screen time with our.
Kids straight to bed with you. Oh, no, we're not watching
Blueies right before bed. No way.
Ain't no way. And never go to sleep.

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Yeah, man, that was quite the Bunny trail.
I've got to make another pic. I'm going to go ahead.
It's I guess it's time for the animated movie.
And I did. So I saved it for this long
because I did do some like some a little bit of research,
scrolling down the people that have logged this movie and saw

(42:31):
that you did not have it quite highly rated enough for me to
think that you're going to take it.
But this is one of my favorite Disney movies just all time.
I'm going to go with Moana. I love Moana.
I don't know just the the kind of like theme of this calling

(42:54):
that's higher than you and you know, kind of not knowing what
to do with being confused by that calling and not knowing
what to do with it. Like her kind of big moment,
like epiphany moment always kindof makes me like tear up a
little bit. And then you get you get the
rock like rapping badly too. So there's that.

(43:15):
That's true. That's a lot of fun.
I love Moana. I think it's a great movie and
it's a musical. It's a just kind of the classic
Disney Princess musical. So I have my Enchanted and I
have my Moana so. Fair enough.
I think I'm set now to take kindof whatever weird movie I want
to take for my last pic so. That's true.

(43:37):
That's true. You definitely can.
You don't have to take an animated one, but I guess.
You're right, You're right. I mean, I mean, there, there,
there are some animated movies Ican think of that I would want
to include. But I'm like, really, I'm trying
to think if like there's anotherlike live action film that I
want to throw in there because there are some really great live

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action and like we can only haveso many.
I have two. More that I would want to pick.
There's definitely one. Between those two.
There's definitely one that I would love to pick, but it is
technically against the ground rules that we set, so Oh no, I
can't, I can't. What would it be?
Well, I'll have to wait for the honorable bench for that.
So because because it it is, it is technically against the

(44:22):
ground rules. But I do think I want to do an
animated movie and as as well asas easily as I could go to a
Disney animated movie. There's one animated movie that
is a musical, has musical numbers in it that I feel really
connected to more than pretty much any Disney movie that came

(44:44):
out kind of during the era that we're sticking to that I watched
a lot as a kid and I think has some great songs from the ever
talented Elton John. OK.
I think I need to go with DreamWorks.
The Road to El Dorado, 2000. Oh, I double checked the date.
I double checked the date. Yeah, your 2000.

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Huge nostalgia hit for me. Big childhood favorite.
I mean, you got Jeff Goldblum, Kevin Kline playing the two main
characters playing off each other.
So well, there are not only is there, I mean, there are musical
numbers that they perform, but there's also the original
musical moments that Elton John performs.

(45:29):
So maybe, I don't know, maybe it's a little bit on the fence
and if you could consider it a true musical, but I think that's
my animate. I honestly it's been I've seen
the movie for sure and I remember it.
I can picture like the characters.
It's a couple really great memes.
Any of the songs. Like both, both as good.

(45:49):
Classic meme. Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't tell you like if, if there's enough songs or
whatever. Oh, it's like it's good to be a
God. Well, there you go.
That one or like, friends never say goodbye.
I mean, this is how much I watched it as a kid.
I remember. Yeah, friends never say goodbye.

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Oh, there you go. It's a good one.
The Road to El Dorado, a classicDreamWorks animated movie.
And you know what I'm realizing now?
You know what I'm realizing? I made the wrong choice for
animated. I should have picked a different
DreamWorks movie. Also that probably.
A couple. There's a couple of Disney
movies I could have thrown in. Probably more than.

(46:31):
One, I do think, I do think our lists are very interesting
because I feel like and did you,did you grow up watching
musicals or not really? Not really.
So I think. It's interesting stuff.
Not really when you look at. Our lists, when you look at our
lists, I think most of my picks are very like much more
traditional musicals and a lot of what you've picked are very

(46:54):
like kind of newer. Modern.
Modernized versions of musicals,because even it, even though
some of the picks I have are like modern versions of musicals
that have been running for a long time, they're they're very
traditionally like filmed and like they feel like a stage
musical put on film, whereas like you know, things like La La

(47:14):
Land or Tick Tick Boom or or even like Enchanted or much
enchanted. Yeah.
Modernized and like their approach to the film.
They're very much more of the born out of the 21st century.
Yeah. And your your list is like, is
OK, let's in the 21st century see how we can, like, accomplish
this classic on screen sort of thing.

(47:35):
Yeah. I don't.
I don't know when Sweeney Todd was written and.
It's definitely. It's not like that old but.
No, it's definitely, it means itdefinitely was around before
that film version came. Out.
Oh yeah, it it's not as old as like Les Mis and Phantom.
Well, Phantom of the Opera wouldhave been.
The opera's like at least the East.
No, I think. It's, I'm pretty sure Sadie's.

(47:58):
Yeah, I like the original, probably production in the 80s.
But yeah, I I definitely see that.
The stage musical came out in 1976.
So yeah, there. You go Sweeney Todd was Sweeney
Todd premiered in 1979. OK, so it's even older now.

(48:18):
Oh. Stephen Sondheim.
There you go. I didn't even know that he did
the loose Stephen Hahn and Sondenheim and the the booklet
the the what was the thing libretto.
The libretto is written by Hugh Wheeler.
OK. There you go.
And apparently the character Sweeney Todd first appeared in a

(48:40):
penny dreadful titled The Stringof Pearls.
So interesting. It's also apparently.
Based learning things. It's like a whole, it's like
apparently a lot of layers for how this this, this movie came
about. But yeah, so 1979, that's a way
older than I was expecting. Yeah, me too.
Yeah, OK, I'm going to stick with my born out of the 21st

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century theme with this last one.
This this last one, you know. Do with it what you will.
Going to be the the. This is literally going to be
the reject modernity embrace tradition poll of 1st century.
It is going to be, it is this isgoing to be fun to see where
people go and what they're voting.
So OK, the I'm going to pick the2020, another 2021 film by Leos

(49:30):
Carrix called Annette starring Adam Driver and Marion Marion
Cotillard. Have you heard, have you even
heard of this movie? Do you know of this movie?
It is. It is a musical.
I'm just going to read the letterbox description because
I'm not going to do it justice if I try to explain this movie.
The story of Henry, a stand up comedian with a fierce sense of

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humor, and Anne, a singer of international renown, in the
spotlight. They are the perfect cuff,
healthy, happy and glamorous. The birth of their first child,
Annette, a mysterious girl with an exceptional destiny, will
change their lives. This is a really weird movie.
The poster looks insane. It's like the two of them
dancing like a wave. Yes, OK.

(50:17):
Yes. It's a really weird movie.
Adam Driver. Not the best singer out there,
but he's he's fine for what the movie.
The movie is just kind of like very strange and weird.
Lias Carricks is a French born director.
His movies aren't necessarily like in French.
He has like this is an example of that.

(50:37):
So he's a French born director. So he's got the the French kind
of weird sentimentality going going for him with this movie.
I don't think this is a huge spoiler because like it's, it's
like early on, like you learn what is mysterious and weird
about the daughter that they have, that they're that they

(50:59):
bear, she's a puppet. They their baby is a puppet.
So it's weird, and so it's. I was interested and now I'm
intrigued. Now you're really interested.
Adam Driver is doing his kind oflike angry Adam Driver thing
through the movie. Marion Cotillard is really good

(51:19):
the the song. Here's the other thing that kind
of probably led me to like this movie more was I saw the Edgar
Wright documentary The Sparks Brothers shortly before I saw
this movie and they wrote the music for it.
And so like the songs are kind of like these strange, weird

(51:40):
Sparks. Sparks the band, the band called
Sparks kind of style things, butin a written in still like a
very like musical form. But yeah, it's it's a very
strange movie, one of those thatlike you watch and you're like,

(52:01):
what in the world is going on? And then also like Adam drivers
very angry and he Can't Sing good, but it's good enough for
what this is. And then also like has a couple
of moments that are actually like very touching and moving
that are unexpected. And so I really love a movie,

(52:21):
you know, whether it's a musicalor not, that like can
unexpectedly kind of like sweep you away in the motion.
And so I got all of that from this movie.
And then I just like movies thatare like weird and doing
something different and strange because I watch a lot of movies
and you end up seeing a lot of the same sorts of stuff.
And it's not necessarily a bad thing.

(52:43):
But when you do see a movie that's like, oh, that's very
different. Like I kind of like end up
liking those more than a lot of people might just because
they're so strange and different.
So yeah, Annette is my last pickand it's very much a 21st
century musical movie, so all. Right, there we go.

(53:04):
There we go. All right, the movie that I did
not pick that I love is John Carney's movie Sing St.
Have you seen Sing St. I heard of it, but I haven't.
You love it. It's very like, I mean it's a
it's a kid who meets a girl that's a little bit older and

(53:25):
tells her he's in a band. So then he has to start a band
with his friends and they write music and the music they write,
they do like they record music videos with her and they perform
at a school dance. But there's like there to me,
the songs that they're writing are like are kind of like in

(53:47):
this the correct sensibility fora musical.
It's kind of like what he's going through with like trying
to get the girl or like kind of like a regretting the decision
you made that like, you know, it's all the songs are like born
out of that sort sort of sensibility.
And then there are some like there are some that are just

(54:10):
like them shooting music video or them, you know, performing
it. But then there's also moments of
like you're doing some cross cutting between them performing
it at like on stage and like thegirl and her like dealing with
whatever she's dealing with withsomething else.
And the music is speaking to both situations.

(54:31):
And so, like, to me, it feels like, yeah, it yeah.
It's not like the traditional way you would think of a
musical, but to me, it fits. But you know, my wife says no.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of movies like I like, like
for instance, like I was lookingat the list on Wikipedia and it
says the Crunchy stole Christmas.

(54:52):
It says it's a musical. And I'm like, which one?
There's like the two the the JimCarrey one.
There's like 1 actual song in that movie.
No Sing St. has like 5 or 6 original songs.
Yeah, written for one. Movie.
You know, one movie that's on here that I, I thought about
picking, but I haven't actually seen it.
So then I kind of can't pick it.One musical of sorts that I've

(55:16):
always wanted to see and it's always, it's still a blind spot
for me. Is 8 Mile never gone around to
see Eight Mile? How do I don't know if that's a
musical? I haven't.
Seen either I think. I think is it might be I mean, I
think it's actually more of a biopic than than a musical
biopic. So, you know, because there's
quite a few really, I guess we're kind of getting the
honorable mentions here. And then honorable mention
another great animated honorablemention, Jonah, a Veggie Tales

(55:39):
movie. Little, little, little, little
throw out for you. The one that I definitely would
have picked if we had said if wehad not said no jukebox
musicals. Another favorite one that I used
to watch all the time when we were younger, we had on DVD
Moulin Rouge. OK, love that one.
Love that one, but it's it's a it's technically a jukebox
musical. Is it really OK?
It is, it is. I have a lot of these.

(56:00):
Most, most of the songs they sing are not, they're like,
there's like Elton John songs and like a bunch of other stuff
like like, you know, so like. Across the universe.
Across the universe. Yeah, yeah.
It's like Lady Marmalade is is not original.
You know, diamonds are forever. Diamonds are a girl's best
friend. Not our original, you know, even

(56:22):
like the we could be heroes justfor one day.
That's Elton John song. Yeah.
So there's, there's a lot of that kind of stuff in there.
You know, I think another one that I I've seen more recently
that I thought was really, really funny is Tenacious D and
The Pick of Destiny. Yeah, I forgot about that movie.
That I I thought it was hilarious.
Little, little crude, but I mean, it is Jack, yeah.

(56:44):
So I don't remember hardly anything about that, but I
definitely watched that in high school for sure because I I
loved Tenacious D when I was in high school.
Yeah, I'm. Just kind of, I'm just kind of
going through the list here trying to see some other ones
that stick out to me that I'm like, oh, people should
definitely. So another one that I was was
either going to pick Annette, which I did or this movie, but I

(57:05):
didn't want to pick another Lin Manuel Miranda cuz I already had
tik tik boom in Moana. But in the heights is really
good. It's not directed by it's
directed by John M2, but it is aLin Manuel Miranda stage play
and it's very, very good. If you if you haven't seen it,
Anthony Ramos is great. If we're sticking to like kind

(57:26):
of sticking with the 21st century, I will say I would say
it's kind of in the same vein oflike Sweeney Todd where it's
kind of like got some horror aspects to it, but it's way
weirder. It's a very weird movie, but I
like, if you like a rock opera, Repo, the Genetic Opera.

(57:48):
Very weird. Never.
Heard of it? It's it's set in the the near
future and it's about this guy who is the repo man and by repo
he, he repossesses organs from people who can't pay the company
for their, their, their organ replacements.
Gotcha. And yeah, it's a rock opera.
It's a very weird movie. Paris Hilton's like in it.

(58:11):
Like she plays like the daughterof the main of like the guy who
like runs the corporation. Yeah.
There's some weird stuff in there.
Sarah Brightman, who is the original Christine Dyer from
from Phantom of the Opera. She's in it and a kind of a
smaller role, as well as the girl from Spy Kids.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
She's she's like the daughter ofthe repo man in the movie.

(58:33):
There's a lot of singing in it that's not like the best, but
it's it's again, it's just kind of like a weird like you either
like the vibe or you don't like the vibe.
I don't, I'm not including this in the honorable mentions, but I
will say one movie on this list that I still have not gone
around to watching and Myrna andI have talked about wanting to
watch it together. Amelia Perez.

(58:55):
Yeah, that is amazing. I've seen seen nothing but the
clips that have been out there. And it is like, it is the
biggest train wreck I have ever seen in my life.
Especially because Myrna was talking about how like,
specifically Selena Gomez, like,she's like speaking and singing
in Spanish. And she's like, yeah, like
myself and like a lot of my friends, like we've seen the
clips of her singing. We have no idea what she's

(59:16):
saying because she doesn't pronounce anything correctly
because even though she's she's Hispanic, she she apparently
didn't go up speaking in Spanish.
So. Yeah, it's.
I want to include it on the list, but it is one that I'm
intrigued to watch the entirety of to see if it is as bad as it
seems to be. I'll say this, Zoe Saldana still

(59:40):
love her. She's I won't say she's great in
the movie because just the material I just think is really
bad with what she has to work with.
Like all props to to Zoe Saldana.
She's she's great, you know, Butyeah, I yeah, we do.
I mean we can do my SO. I think with ready player one,

(01:00:05):
we did a what was the we didn't motion capture performances
draft and I think we did a dishonorable mention also.
So you can I might have to put that as my dishonorable mention.
But another one I watched recently that I just like it did
not work for me. Was I watched Chicago to prep
for this because I felt like I should watch the another one

(01:00:27):
that's won best picture? OK.
I just, it didn't like go for it.
Not really. I didn't like the story.
The singing was, I mean, the singing is good.
The filmmaking choices are fine,but I don't know, it's kind of
bland to me. It's like to me, it's like the

(01:00:48):
flashiness of like the the colors and the costumes and like
the kind of burlesque style likeperformances are like they to
me, they're just like, I don't know, frosting on the most bland
thing you've ever. Put in your mouth, but John C
Reilly performing Mr. John C Reilly's scene is.

(01:01:11):
Like the best thing in the movie.
Yeah, it is. I would.
I would agree. It's been a long time since I've
seen it, so I don't necessarily have a strong opinion on it.
Yeah. I just didn't go for it.
I don't. I had a hard time seeing like
why so many people really go forit.
But yeah, I mean, it's got a four point O on letterbox.

(01:01:32):
So like it's probably a me problem but just did not work
for me. So that would be my dishonorable
mention along with Amelia Perez.OK.
I don't. I do have a few more honourables
if you want me to go through those.
I was going to say I don't really know if I have a
dishonorable mention because I Idon't think there's ever been a,

(01:01:55):
a musical. Like I don't think I've ever
like watched a musical of the ones that I've seen.
And I'm like, Oh, I hated that. Like there's definitely a lot
that like like I've never watched any of the pitches.
No, I I don't, I wouldn't like those movies.
I know I wouldn't like the pitchperfect films.
So I've never seen. The first film.

(01:02:16):
Oh, no honorable mention. Well, let me hear your honorable
mentions before this. Yeah, OK, honorable mention.
I didn't I didn't go for the thenew wicked like a lot of people
did, but it is still like it is still like enjoyable with some
great, really great vocal performances.
And I think Ariana Grande is actually like really great in it

(01:02:39):
if she was to be the best part of the movie.
So I've I'll shout it out the what year 2011 The Muppets.
I have fond memories of that movie with Jason Segel and Amy
Adams. Just, you know, I really like
The Muppets and so I have fond memories of seeing that.
And then my last one is the the animated movie that I thought of

(01:03:04):
too late that I should have taken instead of Moana, but I'll
give my animated honorable mention here and that is the
Prince of Egypt. How did we not take the Prince?
Of Egypt. That's not a 21st century
though, It's 1990s, true. That's why I didn't.
Take it. I almost thought about it, but I
was like, no, that's the 90s. It doesn't.
That's. True.
That's why. That's why it was not on my

(01:03:25):
radar. Well, I'm good.
I'm good to go then. Yes, otherwise I definitely
would have taken that as my. Animation Well, I'll do it.
I'll do a different animated honorable mention then, because
I feel like I should do at leastone.
We already mentioned K pop demonhunters.
It's kind of like on the edge oflike how much of A musical it
is. But but I think it is a musical

(01:03:48):
animated music. They literally released a sing
along version in theaters. Yeah, how it would be between
that and Tangled, I think OK, too great.
Tangled I really love. And then yeah, K pop Demon
hunters. It's.
I also say. You really should see it, it's
really good. I want to check it out.
I I would say I think the two the two biggest more recent like

(01:04:12):
Disney musicals that we overlooked Coco.
See, I don't think Coco is really a musical, OK?
I haven't seen it in quite some time, so.
There's like, I know there's some.
Music in it. Yeah, there's music in it, but
it's not like none of none of them are like really about

(01:04:34):
what's going on in the the moment or anything.
They're just like performances of songs.
The one that definitely is a musical and even though most of
the music is kind of annoying but I have to give it its props
because the ending didn't make me cry.
Actually Encanta. Yeah, it's a great movie, I
think. Really good.

(01:04:55):
The the ending when Mirabelle finally gets recognized and
yeah, for for the person that she is.
Like that kind of thing always gets me.
Like same thing with like WalterMitty, right?
Just makes me up every time. People are going to get mad at
us for not mentioning Frozen, soI'll at least like, mention it.
I've never watched it. I refuse.
It's fine. So I guess so kind of as we're
kind of wrapping things up here,I, I do have a question to, to

(01:05:17):
kind of to kind of sum things up.
Let's do it. OK, what is 1 non musical film
that you think would work as a musical?
And we can even say, what's a 21st century film that you think
would? Work.
It's a 1st century one, OK. Let's just stay on theme.
Let's stay on theme. OK, let's see.

(01:05:38):
I'm going to go with, OK, can weinclude 1999?
How cool, how fun would it be ifsomeone could pull off a musical
of the Matrix? That'd be pretty sick.
What would be awesome, right? What would give me give me 3
show tune titles from The Matrixthe Musical?
OK, One would be 1 would be called Mr. Anderson and it would

(01:05:58):
be OK, It would be the Agent Smith leading that one.
You know you would have. Anderson, You're a very naughty
man, Mr. Anderson. Things are getting out of hand,
Mr. Anderson. Oh man, OK.
Now I want to write it. Then you would have, then you

(01:06:19):
would have. OK, that was the only one I had
like out of pocket. Just off the top of my head, the
name of the song. I think you'd have to call.
I mean, one song would have to be called.
There is no spoon. Yeah, OK.
And then think, I think you'd have to have something with like
a glitch, like a glitch in the Matrix.
There'd have to be some sort of song there.
Or maybe there would definitely be a song like the Morpheus, the

(01:06:42):
like classic Morpheus training Neo for the first time.
I'm just not sure what the name of the song would be for that
one, but. OK, interesting.
OK. Yeah, that that would be really
fun. I kind of cheated a little bit.
It's all right for the sake of the exercise, it's allowed.

(01:07:02):
What was your? Did you have one?
I I did, I think the first one that came to mind and I don't
know why but I just think this would be really fun is I don't
know, I just instantly thought of Inglorious Basterds.
OK. Like, like I see it.
Yeah. Like, I don't know.
I mean, you could do you could do, you know, Red Carpet for
Hitler could be one of the songs.

(01:07:23):
I don't know. I don't know, like, like, like
I'm in like a scene like a West Side Story of all, like The Jets
together, like singing together.But it's like out of rain and
his guys talking about how we'regoing to put out a red carpet
for Hitler, but he's going to die.
You know what I don't know? I think it would be, I think you
could just go like the reverse of frozen and instead of let it

(01:07:44):
go, it'd be let it burn, you know?
Yeah, there you go. I would say, I would say that
that'd be like the closing, that'd be like one of the, the
closing act opening, opening song.
I'm trying to think of, I'm trying to think of like what a
good opening track would be like.
Like what? What's a song that you could
have at the beginning, like enemies of enemies of the state

(01:08:04):
in your floorboards, you know? Yeah, cause 'cause there's the
thing about musicals, a lot of times the songs are named after
something that's said in the song.
So. So.
I think it would. Who's in your floor?
Have a glass of milk. Yes.
Who is that in your floorboards?I hear them rustling underneath.
Who is that in your floorboards?OK, here's OK, here's another

(01:08:28):
one. I have one song title for this
one. This is actually a 21st century
movie, Mad Max Fury Road. And there will be a Nicholas
Holt song called What a What a Glorious Day.
Yes, I love it there we. Go.
That's the. That's the one.
Dude, Oppenheimer in the musical.

(01:08:50):
I don't know if I'm feeling feeling that one, but
definitely. I'm I'm feeling, maybe I'm.
Feeling Nicholas Holt as nuts singing.
What a glorious day. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, that one.
I don't know. I think, I think it's, I think
any, any movie could be a musical.
But could it work as a musical? I don't know.
But I, I think that's very erode.

(01:09:12):
Yeah, that would be pretty sick.I think that's a good exercise
for, for your, for the listenersout there when they listen to
this episode is you know what, what, what would be a 21st
century movie that you think could be turned into a musical?
Yeah, I'd like to see a Wes Anderson movie as a musical,
too. I thought I heard that he was

(01:09:33):
doing 1. I don't know.
I haven't heard. That maybe maybe I'm crazy.
Maybe I'm crazy. Let's see here I.
Think The Life Aquatic would make a good one, But it would,
yeah. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't. Maybe not.
I thought, I, I thought I heard a while back his next movie was
going to be a musical. But I mean, he's he's he's right
there. I think he would kill a musical
for sure. He'd he'd do great.

(01:09:55):
Oh man, well that was fun. I should probably read our final
results real quick before we close out.
Our final results were JP ended with Les Miserables, Sweeney
Todd, The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, the 2004, The Phantom of

(01:10:17):
the Opera, High School Musical, and The Road to El Dorado as his
animated choice. I ended up with La La Land, Tick
Tick Boom Enchanted Moana as my animated choice, and Annette, a
film that nobody has seen and will earn me no votes.

(01:10:39):
So yeah, I think we got some good lists going here.
I think we have some big ones that people will be mad at us
for, like Wicked and The Greatest Showman.
But you know, we can take. The oh, the Greatest Showman
wasn't going in my list. I already said that so.
Same but but people do love thatone so we'll definitely get some
hate. Yeah.

(01:11:00):
Yeah. Well, that's fine.
We'll take it. I was impressed, in fact.
You know what, You know what, you know what?
I disliked that movie so much. I just remember this.
If I had a dishonorable mention,it would be that.
Oh yes, there we go. We're.
Going to end on that. J PS Disciples.
I don't like that. Mcphee's dishonorable mention

(01:11:20):
The greatest showman. You heard it.
Mostly because PT Barnum was a terrible person in real life so.
Yeah, jp.boudreau@gmail.com. That's not a his actual e-mail,
so don't bombard that person. Right.
Give him, give him the wrong. One, All right, let's listen
with that. Next week we will be jumping
into the last Spielberg field asof now with the Fable Men's and

(01:11:46):
yeah, looking forward to that. And if you haven't listened to
our conversation last week on West Side Story, make sure you
do that. And yeah, and also go back to
the beginning of that episode tohear about what JP has been up
to, projects he's working on andstuff.
So do that. And yeah, follow him on
Instagram and Letterboxed. I'll link those in the episode

(01:12:06):
description. That's all we have for this
week. I've been Eli Price for JP
Boudreau. You've been listening to the
establishing shot. We will see you next time.
We were happy here for a little while, but look, I think it.
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