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October 17, 2025 44 mins

Sometimes a new director comes out firing on all cylinders and puts out a great film with their very first feature film. In this week’s movie draft, we explore some great debut films from directors, everyone from Sydney Lumet, Rob Reiner, and even Sam Raimi may get shoutouts amongst other great directors! The main stipulation: no directors with less than 4 films (at the time of recording). As we look to close out our Spielberg series next week, looking back on his films from Duel to The Fabelmans, I thought this would be a fun movie draft to re-release with its own episode.



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(00:08):
It wasn't closely. What's the secret thing?
Just got to find something you love to do and then do it for
the rest of your life. I don't want to be a product of
my environment, I want my environment to be a product of

(00:29):
me. Hello, and welcome to the
Establishing Shot podcast. Where we do deep dives into
directors. In their filmographies.
I am your host, Eli Price, and we are here on episode 116 of

(00:51):
the podcast. Yeah.
We are. Last week we finished up the
last film of Spielberg so far. Hopefully going to see another
one from him next year. But yeah, we did the fave
woman's last week. Next week we're going to be
doing wrapping up the Spielberg series with a epilogue episode.

(01:12):
I'm going to reflect on the whole series, the whole long
Spielberg series. So we're going to do that next
week. But this week I thought it would
be kind of, I guess, a little bit ironic and fun to to go back
and do a sort of rerun of old movie draft.
As you may know if you've been alistener for a while, movie

(01:32):
drafts used to be contained in the same episode as the films we
were covering. And we don't do that anymore.
Way back on episode, I believe 17 of the show with when we
covered following the first filmof Christopher Nolan, we did a
draft of debut feature films fordirectors.

(01:53):
So their first feature film of adirector.
I think our stipulations were that there had to be 3 or more
films by that direct or more than three films by that
director. So they might hear you might be
wondering where a few are. For instance, Jordan Peele only
has three feature films, so the Get Out was not an option, for

(02:14):
instance. But yeah, we're I'm going to
throw it to that episode. I thought it'd be fun to, at the
end of this series, go and talk about debut films because next
week we're going to be going back to Spielberg's beginning
and talking about his whole career, reflecting on it.
So that's what is in store for you.
My guest for that episode was one of my good friends, Hayden

(02:36):
Fob. We had a good time.
So I hope you enjoy this draft. We're gonna move on to our movie
draft because this is that's what the people want.
The people want the drafts. They want the draft.
Yeah, I can. I can't scream because I have
like a baby asleep a room over so.
I'm home alone and there's a young, young couple next door.

(02:59):
They're, they're, they're definitely still awake as we're
recording this at 9:00, at 10:15at night.
So it's fine, yeah. Yeah, it's fine.
No big deal. Yeah, yeah, movie draft, just
draft time I'm. Draft time.
So here's what we're doing if, well, if this is your first time
listening to a movie draft, here's how it works.

(03:19):
We pick a category of some sort to of movies to draft from, and
we take turns picking films fromthat category to be on our film
team, if you will. And yeah, the goal is to build
the best team. So that one when I put the poll

(03:39):
on social media that I win because I drift drafted the best
team, Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Naturally.
But yeah, this is a OK, so this is our third draft together.
So I think it's back to you picking first.
You picked first the first time,I picked first the second time.

(04:01):
Now it's back to you. You get the first pick.
Now I'm nervous. Yeah, I do have.
I do have a new sound. When yet Whenever you're ready
to make your pick, just let me know.
All right, I'm going to use the same strategy that I always use
in this draft. All right, here we.
Go no strategy with the first pick I'm going to take what's
that in the American moviegoers minds as quite possibly the

(04:26):
greatest film all time until it was dethroned.
It's one of the recent sight andsound news.
I'm going to take worse and wellto Citizen Kane.
Yes, I mentioned it earlier. I was wondering if that was on
your radar. But yeah, Citizen Kane, great
first. Pick I, I did not know that that
was a debut, which is just it's.Incredible.

(04:46):
Yeah. It is mind boggling that he's
just like right out of the gate Home run.
Best film ever made? Yes.
I don't understand. I don't either, but.
Yeah, well, you can watch Mank and find out.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I can watch. Was that Fincher?
Was that right? Yeah, David.
Fincher it was OK. One of Fincher's lower tiers.

(05:07):
But yeah, there's the story it. Was fine.
You know it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean great, great pick. I mean I think that is probably
should be like the one O 1 for this category.
Yeah, I think it's a pretty safebet.
Yeah, I'm going in, man. It's one of those things like,

(05:27):
man, I always run into this problem of my favorite ones or
maybe ones that aren't gonna win, win me the draft.
But I also still want to pick myfavorite ones.
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna follow suit and not
pick a couple of my favorite ones and pick a more classic 1.
And I'm gonna go with Cindy Lumet's debut in 12 Angry Men.

(05:52):
Have you ever seen 12 Angry Men?I have not.
That's one of the ones that. Great.
Movie, I know I need to see it. I know it's it's one of the ones
where I was. I was like, I'm not gonna tell
you that I haven't seen it and refused to pick it because I
haven't seen it. Because then you just pick it as
your last spot and that would make me sad.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

(06:12):
You don't want to reveal movies you haven't seen because that
happened. That happened actually the last
week for the last draft. JP kind of let slip that he had
only seen a one particular film from a director.
And I was like, Oh yeah, I can save this one for last in the
draft then. Man, that's tough.
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, you never know what what

(06:35):
I'll be thinking when we're talking through movies in the in
the first segment, so watch out.Yeah, I forgot to hit the sound
for myself. I'm going to hit it post.
I'm going to say it again with the second pick, I'm choosing 12
Angry Men. OK, that was pretty fun.
All 12 of them. Yeah, all 12 of the men,
particularly Henry Fonda. Great.

(06:57):
I am Fonda. Henry Fonda.
Oh yeah. Spicy.
Yeah. All right, sound me.
You ready? Yes.
With the 3rd pick, I'm going to select a film that heavily
inspired the film that we discussed today with Quentin
Tarantino's debut masterpiece, Reservoir Dogs.

(07:20):
Relevoir dogs, man, that's the dogs.
Of the reservoir. Man, you're off to a strong
start. I know you've got me kind of
shaking in my boots, to be honest.
I'm feeling good, but there's still like two or three more
that I saw on my on my lists that I was looking through that
I had not seen that make me really nervous.
Oh man, yeah, yeah, man, Reservoir Dogs is a good pick.

(07:42):
It's actually, I'm not like super high on Reservoir Dogs.
I think it's good, but it's it'slike it's probably my least
favorite Tarantino, which I knowother people like.
It's like they love it but but. It's kind of like, it's kind of
like a low tier Wes Anderson. Yeah, still 4 star even though
it's not personal favorite. My reason I love Reservoir Dogs

(08:03):
is because if there's any nerds listening to this podcast, I
have a deep appreciation and love for the classic Japanese
manga and anime One Piece. And Sanji is one of the
characters that just kicks people the whole time.
And he's based on Steve bushing.His character, Mr. Pink, I
believe is what was from Reservoir Dogs.

(08:25):
So yeah. The kicking is yeah.
One piece, I don't know, I don'tknow that he actually kicks
anybody, but he's like, yeah, wears a suit, smokes a cigarette
the whole time. So it's.
Yeah, yeah. Who is it?
Is it Songko and Memories of Murder?
Pong Jing Ho's movie that's justlike drop kicking people the
whole movie. Golly the whole movie dude they

(08:47):
crop kick so many people in thatfilm.
Like man in the in the Korean BBQ just like taking people out.
Awesome. For sure.
Just taking people out. Yeah, OK.
I shouldn't mention I forgot to to lay down one of the rules
that we decided on people. Are probably thinking.

(09:08):
Yeah. They're like.
Why didn't you take Lady Bird byGreta Gerwig?
Why didn't you take Get Out by Jordan Peele?
And that's because we we kind ofdecided arbitrarily that the
director needed to have more than three films.
I don't know why. I guess like my reasoning behind
that was just like, you need to be able to because like the

(09:28):
whole point of this is like, well, we're we're talking about
Christopher Nolan's first film and how like it's influenced,
you know, his career like and shown.
But like, if like you're only three movies in, it's kind of
like hard to see that sometimes.And like, I don't know, it's, it
is very arbitrary, but I'll, I was like, well, let's let's kind

(09:51):
of cut out some of the people tomake this a little more
interesting. So yeah, yeah.
There's there's some that like, there's some on my list that are
like that I absolutely love. Like After Sun from last year by
Charlotte Wells, I absolutely loved.
But that's her only movie. So.
Yeah, it's. Another, another couple of

(10:12):
notable ones, Hereditary Ari Astor was removed.
The witch Rodriger. Is that one?
That one, Yeah. Hurt.
You know what other one Synecdoche, New York not?
Draftable did Kaufner, Kaufman directed.
Yep. 3 Synecdoche New York, Anomalisa.
And I'm thinking of any things or there's only three

(10:33):
directorial efforts. Yeah.
Wow, yeah, I was looking at. I was like, man, no.
No. Well, that's one of the ones
that I hadn't seen, so now it makes me happy that you can't
draft that one. Can't even draft it.
Yeah. OK, so let's backtrack a little
bit since we had to take that aside to clarify the rules.

(10:54):
Yes, Citizen Kane went first to Hayden.
Then I take 12 Angry Men, all 12of them.
And then Hayden took all of the reservoir dogs, the dogs in the
reservoir. So yeah, I'm it's a fourth
overall pick, my second pick. The sound The sound Don't forget
the sound, the. 4th overall pickof the Director's first features

(11:15):
draft. I'm selecting Michael Mann's
Thief. Wonderful pick that was on my
list. Great.
And just a great man, man. Just a thief.
Fun. Movie.
What a film, right? Oh yeah, I could do everything.
I could watch those like close-ups of someone like

(11:35):
welding something for like welding through a safe like
sparks flying like. Oh yeah.
That in the in the movie theater.
You know what I mean? James Caan.
Just a joy. Oh yeah.
Yeah, James Caan, just like wreaking havoc up in those
banks, you know what I'm saying?Like, that's what I want to see.

(11:56):
Oh yeah, man, it's a good movie.I actually watched that like
probably less than a year ago for the first time.
I was like, man, what a great start to a career thief.
Anyways, that was my pick. I have other ones that I like
more, but yeah, I felt like thatwas a good get me back in the in
the competition kind of pick. That's a That's a great pick.

(12:18):
That was definitely on my list for sure.
Are you ready? I think so.
With the 5th pick. I'm going to take a Frenchman's
English film, I'm going to take Frant Derebalms.
The Shawshank Redemption. I was not aware that it was a
redemption debut, but it was filled.
In with jewelry. Whenever I saw that you've.

(12:39):
Got that. Wasn't even on my list because I
didn't even realize that was an option.
And then I was trying to count his films to make sure because I
I frankly have not. I'm not familiar with Frank
Darreal. Yeah, yes, right, Parabon.
Yep, yes. I mean, the Green Mile is
obviously like when I've heard of the Mist.
I'm pretty sure I've seen it. It's really fun and it's really

(13:00):
messed up. Gotcha, but I have not heard of
Mob City. That was a TV check.
I've not heard of the Majestic. It's not on my list.
Totally missed it. Just totally missed it.
My research failed me, man. Yeah, gosh, I'm so I'm falling
behind on this one. I'm not going to even be able to
pick like my my personal favorites.

(13:22):
How many are we going? Are we going?
Let's just see how it goes because I know your list is very
limited. Well, you know.
We'll pick at least 5 each, I think.
OK, great. Let's see if we can get to 7.
I like the seven number. I think that's a good right as
well. I just like it.
OK man, How do I stay in this? I feel like I'm falling behind.

(13:45):
I might just end up having to like pick my favorites and just
like let it be what it is at this point.
Just have. Fun with it.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and go with you know what?
I'm gonna go with one of my favorite ones just to be safe.
Just in case you have this on the back burner, I'm going with
Brad Bird's The Iron Giant. Great pick, I love.

(14:08):
The Iron Giant. Just a such a wonderful film.
It's such a good movie man, and it gets me every time.
Like dude, that man robot himself, just like the Iron
Giant dude sacrificing himself like oh man.
Oh yeah, so it's powerful. Brad Bird and he's had a good

(14:28):
career man. Ratatouille, both Incredibles
movies. Wow.
And then even Ghost protocol, did you know he directed Ghost
Protocol? I did not know he directed ghost
protocol. That's it's.
Impossible ghost protocol, Brad Bird and Tomorrowland but that
was I never saw it but really bad reviews.
I heard it. Yeah.

(14:49):
I heard it wasn't the best. Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, the Iron Giant, I feel
like if anything could get me back on the race, it's maybe the
Iron Giant. But yeah.
They'll strike some, they'll strike some some dads that have
shown that movie and have fond memories with their kids and.
All right, Yeah, your pick is up.
With the 7th pick of the directorial debut film draft,

(15:13):
I'm going to take Spike Jones's first feature film in Being John
Malkovich. Great pick.
I've definitely high up. High up on my list for sure,
yeah. It's just a ton of fun.
It's super unique. The film style is just so
interesting. Spike Jones has had such a
unique career. Yeah, just, he's just made some
really fun stuff. He's got a comfy spot in my

(15:35):
heart. And Being John Malkovich, I I
actually hadn't seen it and it was recommended so highly by a
friend that I purchased a Criterion copy before even
seeing the film and then firing it up.
I remember finishing watching itwith my wife and I was like holy
crap I can't believe movies likethat exist.
This is so fun. And she was like a wild.

(15:57):
Weird. Why was it in news years?
Weird. Why were they in his head?
Why were those scenes included? And I was like, don't, don't
worry about it. Malkovich scene.
And if you've seen Being John Malkovich, when I say the
Malkovich scene, you know what? I'm exactly what I'm talking
about. Yes.
Yes, like, what a wild, what a wild sequence that is.

(16:17):
Yeah. Oh man, yeah.
And just what was it? My brain's the tunnel.
Was really disgusting too. It's so gross.
It's almost like fleshy. Yeah.
And what's a Cameron Diaz, man? It's just, like, so fun.
Like, oh, yeah. She's not playing on the, like,
overly attractive characters. She's like, the one that is

(16:39):
getting her man stolen. And that's just the fun dynamic
there to see her in it. I just, yeah, big fan of being
John Alkowich. Yeah, great pick.
All right, with the 8th pick of the draft, I'm going with This
is Spinal Tap. Oh, yes.
Great movie, dude. I love it.
It's so funny. So fun.

(17:01):
Yeah, This Is Spinal Tap, directed by Rob Reiner, went on
to direct things such as When Harry Met Sally, Stand By Me,
The Princess Bride, A Few Good Men, some really good movies,
actually. A hilarious start to an absolute
incredible brand of movies. Yeah, This is Spinal Tap is one

(17:23):
that like has a Criterion disc, but it's like it's not being
printed anymore for some reason,which is really sad because I
would love to to have that. Yeah, well, I know that's a very
important movie to you. I've heard you talk about it all
the time. Well, it's like this is Spinal
Tap. If for those people who have not
seen this movie, it is a 19 mockumentary about this like

(17:48):
hell hair metal group and they're on tour.
They're the name of the band is the fictional band is This is
Spinal. The name of the fictional band
is Spinal Tap. Yeah, it's, it's a mockumentary.
And like the genius, like the genius of it is they create
these like scene scenarios and like probably like 8090% of the

(18:09):
dialogue is like improvised, Like they come up with this
concept for the scene and then like the two leads just like
improvise all of these lines. And it's a mockumentary about
this like brand band and the drama in the band.
It's really actually absolutely hilarious and kind of like
sparks the mockumentary style oflike film and TV really like

(18:34):
before the Office was even like conceived of This was Spinal Tap
was was out there in the world making people laugh.
Yeah, that's my, that's my pick.So you're up again.
Make sure that this next pick that I want is.
Oh, I hit the sound too early. Hold on, let me just want to I I
just want to make sure that I don't break any rules.

(18:56):
OK. OK, I'm not gonna make, I'm not
gonna break the rules, OK? Could I hit it again?
Hit it one more time in Trouble.Let's go with the 9th pick and
my 5th pick. I'm going to take Alex Garland's
directorial debut and a film that I love very deeply, Ex
Machina. Ex Machina, Does he have more
than three? He's got.

(19:17):
No, he doesn't. He's not credited for one of
them. I'm so sorry.
Run it back, run it back, run itback.
He's not credited for one. Fine, I'll take a me pick.
You took a you pick. I take a me pick and my P me
pick is going to be a film that I picked in the last draft
because I just love this film and I'm going to just keep
picking it as often as I can. And I'm going to take Sam

(19:38):
Raimi's The Evil Dead. Evil Dead.
Actually, I talked to Evil then.Did you take Evil Dead in the
last draft? There was an army of darkness.
I took the yeah, yeah. So now I just need to draft Evil
Dead 2 and then I'll have the whole trilogy in my draft.
Whole trilogy, yeah, The Evil Dead.
I still haven't seen it seen those so I need to get get with
it on those for sure. Yeah, as far as I know, great

(20:02):
pick, but I haven't seen it, so can't really speak to it.
But yeah, yeah, it's just, it's a.
Film I love. It's not.
I mean, he has Ex Machina, he has annihilation and.
And men from last year. The men?
A rather disappointing year. That's three.
Yeah he did direct devs the miniseries but that doesn't count.
Yeah, he they announced the filmfor him next year and that was

(20:27):
what they're because I saw that one announced for next year in
the same list and I was like buying it, just missed it.
That's fine. Anyway, man did not really.
Man didn't really do it for me. I was disappointed because I
absolutely love Ex Machina and Annihilation.
Annihilation. Yeah, and.
Devs Devs is a great little man you've.

(20:49):
Never seen devs. You need to see it.
Nick Offerman is one of the leads and he's like really
incredible in it. Very different role than Parks
and Rec, but yeah, really good. Highly recommend.
It's not that it's not like a big commitment cuz it's just
like 1 miniseries, like one season, 8 episodes or so.

(21:09):
Sweet. Maybe even less so.
It's not a big commitment. And it's like really like an
intriguing, like sci-fi concept.I think OK I have my 5 going.
I think so. I could go to seven.
Well, you have 7. Yeah, you have 5.
I have four. Yeah, let's go to seven.
Let's do it. OK, so I need to do my my 5th
pick. This is this is gonna be good

(21:31):
because I need to really try to fit some some good stuff in
here. We're halfway through.
So this is the 10th, the 10th. Yes #10.
My 5th pick, I'm gonna go ahead and go with Blood Simple, the
debut of the Cohen brothers. Another one on my list,
fortunately haven't seen. That was the third one that I

(21:53):
had considered that I haven't seen.
Yeah, man. Yeah.
Tell me about is it great? Is it great?
Noir. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's like you watch it and you're like, yeah, the Cohen
brothers. They're, they're they're
they're, you know, let's let's watch more of these.
You know, it's not like my favorite Coen brothers movie by
any means, but it's like a really, really, really solid neo

(22:17):
noir film, you know, and I feel like Nolan's following is is
very noir. But like even though he's like
playing with the narrative structure, you know, like we
talked about, it still feels kind of throwback.
It kind of has that like more throwback classic feel.
Whereas like this is very much like neo noir.
Like it's a noir, but it's like they're doing something new with

(22:39):
it. It you know, it's it's it's very
like modern. Yeah.
Another 1984 pick, man. This is Spinal Tap and Blood
Simple, both in the same year. That's that's that's something.
What a year for movies. Oh yeah, it really was. 1980
really actually was a really great movie.
A really incredible movie. Yeah.

(23:01):
Yeah. All right, You ready, I?
Think so. With the 11th pick, I'm going to
take a movie that I've seen manytimes, a movie that I grew up
watching, a movie that I love. I'm going to take Fast Times at
Ridgemont. OK, I have an.
Extra bit of a curse ball. There fast times.
I love fast times, it just makesme happy.
Who's the director? I don't actually know off the

(23:21):
top of my head which makes me upset.
It was like a movie I watched onTV.
All the. Time.
Oh man, I actually love it when that happens.
I know, it's really sad. Directed by Drum Roll.
Directed by Amy Heckerling. I missed it.
Oh, directed by Amy Heckerling, who would go on to direct a
couple of random films and then knock it out the park in 1995
with Clueless But Fast Times That Ridge My Eye.

(23:44):
Just a really fun movie. Spicoli.
For great things, just haven't seen it.
Yeah, OK, I am back up. Wait, where are we?
We're at 6. We're at six, yes.
So this will be pick 12. So I've got two more picks and
I'm not going to be able to get in all the really good movies.

(24:05):
I made like a way too long list for this draft.
That's why I usually go like oneor two under double the picking
list. That's usually my goal so I
don't get overwhelmed. Yeah, I'm like totally
overwhelmed. I'm going to go ahead and take
this one that I feel like you probably haven't seen and maybe
a lot of people haven't seen, but this is going to be my main.

(24:29):
Like I'm picking this so that hopefully people will like see
it for the first time and then go watch it.
And that is Rian Johnson's brick, brick.
Oh wait, hold on. Yeah, play your music.
It up with the 12th pick. I'm going with Rian Johnson's
debut film Brick, which I'm pretty sure I just said like
film instead of film. That was weird.

(24:52):
Brick is so good. It's have you seen it?
I have not seen brick unfortunately.
Man, you've got you've got like little boy JGL Joseph Gordon
Levitt. I do love young boy.
Just delivering the most like, bizarre, like run of dialogues
you've ever heard a teenager spout out in a high school.

(25:15):
This is OK. So here's what Brick is.
Take a pretty violent noir film and mix it with like a high
school coming of age film and like meld those two together and
like this strange movie that youhave in your head.
It's that, but done to like the greatest degree.
It's a great movie. That's awesome.

(25:35):
That's so fun. You need to go watch it for.
Like I will. Move it up the list.
It's worth rent. It's worth renting.
It's not streaming anywhere right now, but it's worth
renting for sure. I've got Blood Simple and Brick
queued up. Brick is good.
So Ryan Johnson obviously went on to direct the likes of
Looper, Star Wars, the Less Jedi, the two Knives Out movies

(26:00):
with Daniel Craig. Yeah, he's he's had a good, good
career and apparently going to just keep going.
Yeah, but Brick is actually my favorite Ryan Johnson movie
still like to this day. Out of all these great movies, I
like Brick the most. I think he started off probably
too hot in my opinion. Well, I've got a really funny

(26:21):
curveball of a 7th pick. Alright, let's do this.
Might cost me with the Gollywoodnumber of 13th pick of the
directorial debut draft. I'm going to come at you with a
curveball. I'm going to come at you with a
movie that was probably nowhere near your list.
Not even a hint of it. But I'm going to take the
legendary Tyler Perry's first directorial debut with Madea's

(26:46):
Family Reunion by Ray. Madea is on the list.
Probably the only time Madea will make it to a draft list.
Medea's family reunion because my final Medea movie.
Boom, Tyler. Perry you the draft.
That might be like the pig that like that wins you the draft
right there. I'm trying to get my the Medea.

(27:09):
Hive is coming out to vote. Yes, if you're if you're a part
of the Medea. I was trying to find a fun name
for like the Medea, the Medea. If you're the Medea family, you
could come to the Medea's familyreunion with me and my draft
pick. I love it.
I love it never. I've never seen any Madea movie

(27:33):
ever. My cousin is in the Christmas
one. Cousin is an ex.
He's an extra. I mean I don't even know if you
see him but he's in there. Foster Shout out to Foster extra
in in the Madea Christmas movie.They shot it in a part of it in
McDonough, GA which is where area that I'm from originally A.

(27:55):
Fun fact, yes, as I'm scrolling through this Wikipedia page,
Tyler Perry is the fourth highest listed name in Gone
Girl, which is Oh yeah I forgot 4th billed name in Gone Girl.
Yes, I'm just scrolling through.He played a pretty significant
role in that movie and from whatI.
Remember, yeah. Was he like, was he like the FBI
or some, I don't know, people are gonna be mad at me for not.
Remember, it's been a long time.Yeah, man.

(28:19):
Hello, Perry. So here's where like I'm really
like, man, where I go because there, I don't know, there's
some really good movies still out there.
We'll do honorable mentions to to throw in all these other
great movies. Love that.
Yeah. There's one movie that I feel
like probably should be picked that's not as high as others on

(28:41):
my list. Man.
Man this is really hard. OK I'm going between 2 picks.
One movie I like more than the other, but the other might be a
more recognizable director. So I'll do this.
I'll go ahead and draft my favorite of the two.
Since I've already lost this draft, I think, and we'll just
talk about honorable mentions later.

(29:02):
I'm going to go with Terrence Malick's Badlands.
Terrence Malick is one of my favorite directors, just makes
these incredibly poetic films. But yeah, Badlands is it's an
interesting movie as it stars Martin Sheen as this.
He's kind of like, it's basically like a bit of a Bonnie

(29:26):
and Clyde ish kind of movie, butthey're like younger Martin
Sheen and Sissy Spacek kind of like on this like road trip
after there's someone is killed,kind of like trying to escape
the law sort of thing. And they're on this road trip
and it's really like, so like Malik is just like obviously

(29:48):
known for his like just beautiful visuals.
And it's this like really like strange dark, like weird store
like character kind of study, but with the background of this
like beautiful, like wide open, like Midwest landscape that's
like, and just incredibly beautiful.

(30:10):
And so it's, I don't know, it's not my favorite Malik, but just
like a really fantastic first, like debut feature film and like
sort of like others that we've talked about through this draft,
just like kind of shows, I don'tknow, like tinges of what the

(30:30):
rest of their career will kind of look like as far as like the
movie types of movies they make.So yeah, the Badlands, I haven't
seen Terrence Malik. I haven't.
Seen it, but any Terrence Malik pick is a good pick, so yeah.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's what that's what I was
talking about last week with JP.He he kind of let loose that he
had only seen one Malik film. And so I ended up with being

(30:54):
able to snag the Tree of Life, which is one of my favorite
films ever made ever made. So yeah.
Yeah. But the last pick of the draft,
Oh, man, it was glorious. Wow, That's a sad.
Yeah. Badlands is a great movie.
I wouldn't move it up as high asBrick in your watch list, but
you should put it up there. I probably like it more than or

(31:15):
about the same as Blood Simple right there.
OK with it. Yeah.
Did you have any, any honorable mentions?
What's? At all whatsoever I have.
I have a handful of honorable mentions that yes.
Lay them on me and I'll I'll throw all mine out.
I'll also mention some of the ones that I really wanted to
pick but they just didn't directenough things.

(31:37):
Napoleon Dynamite. Really unfortunate Jared Hess
only has 3 movies. Didn't snag Napoleon Dynamite.
Yeah the Blair Witch Project wasa one and done film for the VO
that directed Blair Witch Project, which I really love.
Another. I love horror movies, so there's
a handful of horror. Has more than three, does he?
Yeah, he has four at least. Great.

(31:59):
Five. Wow.
Yeah, I was OK. Great.
I was wrong. Totally good.
Because I had Napoleon Dynamite.I was, I was thinking about it
at one point, but I didn't go with it.
OK, I drafted it, I'm pretty sure in a comedy draft.
So I was like, I don't want to draft that again.
Yeah, yeah, Adam McKay is the directorial debut Anchorman.
The Legend of Ron Burgundy was another that was on my list.

(32:21):
Yeah, that's beautiful. I also drafted that in that same
comedy. Yeah.
So you were checking it off fromthe comedies draft?
Yeah, another horror film. James Wan, the popular horror
director. He's done a handful of different
tastes. I I was afraid he did The
Conjuring, all The Conjuring universes and stuff like that.
OK, Yeah, yeah, he most recentlydid.

(32:42):
I think malignant was James Wan,but he opens up with the banger
of Saw. Just a classic all time.
That's right, horror. Film Monsters Inc.
I don't actually know who directed Monsters Inc.
I don't have that off the top ofmy head or in my notes, but he
would go on to direct a handful of the Disney Pixar films.
Yeah, Monsters Inc being the. 1st I'm pulling it up on the

(33:02):
whole letterbox machine. Oh, it's Pete Doctor.
Pete Doctor I love. Yeah, I love every Pete Doctor
Pixar movie. But yeah, I don't know that I
would have picked Monsters Inc, but it probably would have
helped my. It would have helped my.
Yeah, it might have sniped some people, Jeff.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Maybe the Iron Giant will get
enough people from the animated side.

(33:24):
Legally Blonde, Another debut. I thought about that one.
Yeah, smacking up I. Watched that the other day with
my wife. Yeah, I thought about snagging
for the female audience, you know, let them feel seen that
we're not just a bunch of bro cinephiles.
And then lastly, just one of thegreatest films of all time
directed by Conrad Vernon, who would go on to direct Monsters

(33:44):
Versus Aliens, Madagascar 3 and Penguins of Madagascar.
He just directorial debuts out with the banger that is Shrek to
the best Shrek to film. So those are some honorable
mentions that I had. A lot of them were like a bit
too goofy and I decided to go the Medea route.
But what what what are some thatyou had?
What are some? Yeah.
So would like to mention. So you you started with ones

(34:07):
that didn't qualify. I'll do a few of those I
mentioned after Sun Charlotte Wells debut.
Oh just bump the mess out of my mic.
My bad. Another that is also like a
single movie. 2019 Sound of Metal by Darius Martyr.
Oh yeah, I. Loved that film.
Just a great film, yeah. Yeah, The last black man in San

(34:29):
Francisco, Joe Talbot, a 2019 film.
I'm pretty sure he that's his only feature, A Columbus by
Koganada he came out with after Yang.
Was that last year or two years ago?
Yes, two years ago. Yeah, After Yang was a great
movie, but Columbus was an incredible movie, too.

(34:49):
Yeah, there's none of those qualified.
Oh, Nightcrawler did not. Oh yes, that was another one.
He only has the three. Yeah, great, great opening film.
But yeah, so honorable mentions that would have qualified that I
didn't. Obviously Bottle Rocket.
We just spent a whole series on Wes Anderson.
Love Bottle Rocket, but I just figured, well, we just spent a
whole series on them. I'll I'll get some other stuff

(35:11):
out there. They're not.
Aronofsky's pie is. I haven't seen it.
I've heard great. Things yeah.
So it it actually I think it came out the same year as
following and also like very much a low budget black and
white film, but like super weirdand strange and to me just like

(35:33):
a far superior movie to following.
Yeah, to be honest, like, it's just like, it's weird.
It's a weird, weird movie, but like, really interesting.
Yeah. Night of the Living Dead was one
that I was really thinking aboutgoing with George A Romero,
known for, you know, obviously Dawn of the Dead, Day of the

(35:54):
Dead, all the zombies. I thought about that.
I was living dead. I wasn't totally familiar with
with the rest of his work. I just didn't feel right.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm the same way.
That's the only movie I've seen by him.
But it's really an incredible movie.
Yeah, we mentioned Get Out. Sweetie Jane Campion is a really
good movie debut. Most people probably either know

(36:16):
from The Piano or Power of the Dog, which came out a few years
ago. But Sweetie is a really good
movie. Lupin the Third The Castle of
Cagliostro, which was Hey, I'm Miyazaki's debut feature
animated film, which I really like.
I think it's a fun movie. I had tales.
From the Earthsea, his his son'sdirector of debut.

(36:40):
I had that one. OK, yeah.
I don't think that he has enoughfilms yet to qualify.
Yeah, there's there's a lot of good JJ Abrams opened up with
Mission Impossible 3, which is. Yeah, I.
Really like Mission Impossible 30, Monty Python and the Holy
Grail. I did not take it.
That was on my list. Yeah, it's but some people might

(37:01):
think that's a misstep, but it'sit's also weird because it's got
the double directors going on. Yeah, hard to, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah. Wong, car wise as tears go by is
a really good movie as a debut. How about how about this?
The 40 year old Virgin Judd Apatow swinging onto the scene

(37:23):
with Steve Carell? Just the King of Common right
there, that man. Absolutely.
Oh, I forgot to mention one thatthat did not qualify, which was
Paranormal Activity which I really like.
I love the paranormal activities.
Yeah, I wish that Bong Shin Ho'sdirector or debut debut was

(37:44):
Memories of Murder, but it was in fact Barking Dogs Never Bite,
which is not anywhere near as good as Memories of Murder.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with themat all, but that was what I
looked in. I've seen it.
It's it's fine. I guess you can throw way back
to the likes of Charlie Chaplin with the Kid and Buster Keaton

(38:08):
with three ages, both OK movies.Yeah.
To start off their incredible careers, Jean Luc Godard's
Breathless, which is a beloved film among cinephiles.
Movie really serious movie lovers.
I watched it not that long ago. I thought it was really good but
not my favorite. Yeah, I'm not very familiar with

(38:29):
it so I noted it, but. I also had George Miller's Mad
Max obviously on my list, but I'm not like huge on the first
Mad Max. Neither am I, I had it there as
well, but. Anyways, sorry.
And then the other one, I've left this one for last.
It was the other one that I was thinking of taking over
Badlands, and that's of course David Lynch's Eraser Head.

(38:54):
That was the one that I thought you were talking about in the
beginning. You said you're gonna say it
till the end. Yeah, like I think A Register
has a really good movie, but it's, yeah, it's not my
favorite. It's super.
Have you seen this? Special.
I have not seen it, but I've heard all of the.
Oh, man, the warnings. It's like a movie that is.
It makes you feel so uncomfortable.

(39:16):
Like I was like, I was like squirming in my seat the whole
movie. Yeah, cool.
Yeah. Not a not a super view watchable
movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's directorial debuts. Yeah.
I think there's a lot of and there's obviously a lot that we
didn't mention. Those are just ones that I've
seen. I'm just reading through other

(39:37):
ones that I'm seeing that, yeah,there's a lot of people open out
with really, really good stuff. I mean, yeah, looks like The
Lion King was a directorial debut.
Yeah, there's there's some, there's some really good ones in
here and things I hate. How do you go scooped up the the
young? That's true.
Young woman category there. That's true.
I do love to. Yeah, I don't.

(39:57):
Think Lion King would have wouldhave qualified?
I wouldn't have. I just got Lion said it.
Yeah, just unfortunate because obviously Lion King is great.
Yeah, that's a that's a movie draft.
Let's I'm going to read them back so that we can finalize
this. Hayden took Citizen Kane,
Reservoir Dogs, The Shawshank Redemption, Being with John

(40:19):
Malkovich, The Evil Dead, Fast Times at Ridgemont High and
Medea's Family Reunion. Medea.
Man, I really feel like I feel like I lost this draft after
your third pick. Your third pick anyways.
I do have a stack top three thistop three.
Man, Yeah. Anyways, yeah, I lost this one,

(40:43):
which is fine because I still like my list, which my list is
as follows. 12 Angry Men, Thief,The Iron Giant, This is Spinal
Tap, Blood Simple, Brick and Badlands.
Great drafts, though. That's all around.
Yeah, all around. Good job, everyone.

(41:07):
Yeah, if you have, if you think we we left some outs that you
feel like is blasphemous to not have in this draft, just yeah,
reach out and let. US know there's going to be some
comments about us missing Jimmy Neutron boy genius.
Oh, yeah, for sure. It was #15 it was #15 I promise.

(41:27):
The Rugrats movie, which, you know, I have.
Like I have an itching suspicionthat that's like both a debut
and then, but who knows? I don't know.
Yeah, that's that's our movie draft.
Well, thank you for listening tothat movie draft.
We had some great selections. I think Hayden even pulled out a
few that I remember that weren'teven on my list just because I

(41:50):
didn't do good enough research on some debut films.
But yeah, there there were therewere some really good lists,
some good honorable mentions too.
So I, I hope you enjoyed that movie draft and, you know, let
us know if if we missed any thatyou think we really should have
mentioned. You cannot, you know, do
voicemails on the show. You can send a voicemail to, if

(42:14):
you go to establishingshotpod.com, there's
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(42:38):
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(42:58):
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And the menu. So yeah, look for that.
I'm looking forward to wrapping up the Spielberg series next
week with our epilogue episode. And yeah, it the end of the year
should be interesting. I'm not sure it might.
The episodes might be sporadic for the next a couple months,

(43:22):
but we'll see how it goes and I will keep you up to date.
But until then, I've been Eli Price and you've been listening
to the establishing shot. We will see you next time.
We were happy here for a little while, but look, I think.
It was this way. Better to be king for a night

(43:44):
than schmuck for a lifetime.
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