January 7, 2025 • 40 mins
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, Sarah and Kenzie are back after a month off! We share updates on our restful December, things the Lord is teaching us and some hopes and dreams for 2025. We encourage our listeners to find time to reflect back and also to look forward in the upcoming months. We give some practical tips for what that may look like through journaling, vision boards or guided prompts. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if last year was good, bad or not what you expected, His mercies are new every morning and it’s a new day, let’s welcome 2025.
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Welcome back to the Even If podcast. I'm Kenzie and I'm Sarah. And even if last year was good,
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bad, or maybe not what you expected, his mercies are new every morning and it's a new day. Let's
welcome 2025. 2025. Today we are going to catch y'all up on the last month. We took December. We
did not record. We didn't post anything. So we just want to kid you guys up on the last month,
talk 2025, our goals, our prayers, how we're feeling about the new year, all the things.
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Yeah. How was your December? How was the time off for you? Because it was great. I mean,
first of all, we're so happy to be back. I know. It's so good to be back. It's so good to be back.
Feels like forever kind of. I know it really does. Done this. But yeah, how was your December? How
was the break? How was the time off? It was the best. It was the best. I got to start December
off by going on a missions trip to the DR with just the most incredible people. And I was gone
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for a week completely off the grid. Phone on, do not disturb. Not on social media. I mean, it was
just, oh, it was, it was a week that I will treasure for the rest of my life. It was so
wonderful. And then I got home and I just didn't want to jump back into my life. I wanted to take
time and just be, and I think going into December, both Sarah and I were just like praying through
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like, let's just, we just both fell in our heart. Like, let's just take a month and take a beat. And
we didn't want to record. We really wanted to just rest. I think both of us were just really
exhausted from the year. And so for me, December was, I truly just rested. And as an achiever,
as somebody that's always busy, I just didn't feel like doing anything. That's not like me. So I just
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let that be true. And I leaned into it. Yeah. And it was the best. Yeah. How was it? It was so good.
It's slow days. And, oh, I mean, obviously, I assume full ride is probably maybe a little slower
because people are traveling. Yes. It was, December was always a really dead month, especially
in Nashville because it's such like a transplant city. So people are always gone. And I still
teach. We were closed, we were closed Christmas Eve, Christmas day. We still had classes, but I just,
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I was, I have had a, 2024 was a hustle year. I ran fast and with work, it was wonderful. But my body
was just at the, towards the end of the year, I was like, please, just, I can't, my mind. I think I
just had to also just not get caught up in keeping up with the Joneses, not looking at other fitness
studios and what they're doing. And I just needed to hear from the Lord and just, and rest. And I
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felt like he was telling me, just stop. Like I had no desire to be on social media, which I
normally love doing and sharing my heart. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to leave my phone in
my house and go for a walk with my dogs, which I did a lot. I went to bed really, really early. I
slept in, I spent time with the Lord in ways that I have not done. Honestly, I can't remember
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last time I did that. And I feel like for me as a business owner, for me as a daughter, as a sister,
as a friend, I was doing that for, in preparation for 2025. It was like my hibernation month.
Love that. And I feel like I just am so restored and so at peace. I feel so at ease.
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And now I'm like, I can, I'm chomping at the bit. You're like coming out of it.
Yeah, I'm coming out of it. Which is so cool. It was so cool to feel that. That's awesome.
Yeah. What about you? How was your December? Tell me.
Yeah, it was good. It was same. I had my book release in November and I feel like that was crazy.
I was posting so much and posting on social media and social media in general and marketing is just
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yeah, it's more draining for me. Like it just takes effort and time. I enjoy it. It just takes time.
And so I think to have done that and seen an amazing response, book sales crushed it was so fun,
crushed it, encouraging. And then I just feel like I kind of took a pause. I was like, I'm not going
to push this right now. I was going to do some book signings and readings. And I just thought,
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I'm going to break. Yeah. And I'm good. Like I'm so proud of Cal Girl Mermaid. I'm excited about it.
And I am good. And then us taking a break with the podcast was a nice rest in that just taking
time off. And then the school that I work at is obviously on Christmas break. And then my clients
and my own coaching business have slowed down also just with the travel. And so it truly has been such
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a break restful month. So good. And yeah, it's the same. It's like, I feel like I have slowed down
and taken time to just read and journal and be intentional. But also with that, the lack of
structure for me personally, it's hard sometimes. Like I feel like my workouts haven't been as regular.
And you know, things like that, that you're the same as you. I'm like, ready to get back to the
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routine at least and just having that structure. But I think it is good to slow down and be
intentional about what we're doing. And then you really enjoy it. Like I feel like when you do let
your body kind of eat what it wants, kind of, you know, not as strict a routine, hardly working
out, all those kinds of things. And you're like, you have this new found appreciation and desire
to go do those things. And your body needs rest, you know, we're both trainers, like we know how
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this is, we know that we'll jump right back into it. I think it's also rare when we're like
slacking on our workouts or lack of a better word. But then it's like, we jump into it. And we're
like, yeah, no, our body needed it needed it. You needed a break. You work multiple different
jobs in different areas. You launched a podcast, you launched a book. You're, you know, like it
was a lot. And I think it's, I think it's takes a lot of confidence to be able to just say no
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and rest. And how has your new year been? Cause now we're, we're in 2025.
We're in 2025. Yeah, no, it's been good. I think I always just love a new year. I love a new year.
I love a birthday. I love the start of the school year. It is coming up. It is coming up.
I just love the mark of fresh and new start and nothing you can't do that anytime of the year.
But I think just like for me, I am, I really love the intentionality of slowing down and
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reflecting. And I think it's a good excuse to pull out my journals to take time to do that.
And it's so fun. My new year actually started, started so fun. I did a polar plunge, which I
hate the cold. Oh, I hate it so much. Hate it so much. But I saw this on Instagram. You just jumped
right in. Oh, just I was like, it was awful. It was so cold on New Year's Day. It's this thing
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that I have some friends that do it out in Dixon, Tennessee. And they've been doing it like 15 years
or so. And when I'm in town and have the courage, I'll do it. But it's different than when I used
to live in Charleston. And we would do a polar plunge in the ocean because it was just not as
cold as creeks here in Tennessee, that are flowing water. Oh, I'm cold. Just thinking about it.
Yeah. No, it's freezing. But then I actually went squirrel hawking. Oh, you would check me up. So
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fun. It was just the best way to ring in the New Year. January 1st, I'm out there going hunting with
big old hawk and catching squirrels. It was just so fun. Oh my gosh, you're hilarious.
So anyway, Tennessee girl, it was, it was really good. Really good. But okay, I'm so excited to
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jump into this. We have some fun things to talk about. Yes. And I have first, we have our, we
have your vision board in here right behind us in the studio. We have a vision board. We have some
of my journals and we're just going to kind of dive into some of this. So I actually haven't
even heard about this vision board. And I saw it on Instagram and was like, I am so excited to hear
more. So can you share, it's this beautiful little poster behind us with some magazine clippings,
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maybe? Yeah. I don't know. Tell us about it. What is this? Okay. So I'm a, I love a New Year. I'm
like a big, like I love dates. I think dates are really significant. I'm a big planner. I wouldn't
say I'm Taipei, but I'm close to that probably. Like I just love to make a plan and go execute.
Yeah. And this year, usually I write goals and, you know, have them in different, my categories,
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professional, spiritual, all these things. And this year, I just felt this common theme of hope
the last six weeks. And the last December, I have a saying for the year, and I've never had a saying
for the year. I usually have a saying every month, like a word every month. This year, I have a saying
and it's kind of two part, the first part I heard about it. I was in Austin and I was at church
with some friends and there was this phrase that the pastor said of uncommon hope. And I was like,
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wow, uncommon hope. I love that. And then one of my best friends in my Bible study, she constantly
tells me, can't expect a miracle. And she was praying over me before I left for the mission
strip. And she, I just heard the Lord say, I want you to expect a miracle with uncommon hope in 2025.
And it was so clear. I started crying and I was just like, oh my gosh, yes, I feel so hopeful
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about my year. And I think a lot of it came from, I think, you know, one of the greatest gifts we
can ever have is to lose everything we were never meant to keep. And that was 2024 for me.
That's perspective for sure. It was just a cleansing and excavation, losing of, you know,
money and a relationship and employees and all that stuff. So my vision board, I was like,
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actually this year really want to have a visual vision board instead of just things written down
in my journal. So I went to Michaels and I got this like canvas painting board and I ordered
some magazines online. And basically I just went through magazines for a couple of days of just
things that stood out to me after I had kind of been praying through my focuses for the year. And
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and so basically what I have is I have my saying for the year, which says expect a miracle with
uncommon hope. And then something that's pretty vulnerable to share, but it's also just honest.
I am, I'm really praying for that I'll meet the person that God has for me this year. And I'm
okay to say that even if it doesn't happen, because again, what's our podcast called? Even if, like
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I just, I want to claim that though. I want to ask the Lord, I've never asked the Lord like, okay,
Lord, bring him to me. Like I'm ready to meet the person that you have for me. Because I never
felt fully ready, if I'm honest. And I have never been in a place that I'm in at right now. Like,
I am just this woman that I'm really proud to be. And I have been, I feel like the Lord has placed
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me in different situations the last few months. And I've literally in my mind gone, whoa, that's
not at all how I would have responded before. Or, wow, my heart just feels so cleansed or my mind
feels so, so at ease, like this is so wild and weird. And then I'm like, no, wait, of course it is,
you've done so much work. You see him and I can see him power his in my whole body and my heart
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and my mind and everything. So, so I'm like, you know what, I'm claiming that. And I asked some
friends like just how, how to be praying for that. Like, what does that look like? And then
just to specifically be praying for that. So that's part on the vision board of just like wanting
that person and believing for the impossible because it does feel impossible at times, of course.
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So I have pictures of that and saying you are not too old and it is not too late.
Steward, what's in front of you? One of my favorite, one of my favorite verses is Romans
five, three through five. And so not only, but we were joyous in the suffering, knowing that
suffering produces endurance and endurance produces character. And you know that first
that keeps going. So that's at the center pray for wisdom. People are the treasures. So I have a
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lot of just like people because people are my favorite thing in the world. And, and then just
trusting God's timing hopes kind of throughout the entire vision board. And then I've got some
podcast stuff of Sarah's and my goals. So we have some pictures of podcast stuff. I want to read
one of my things this year is I want to read a book every month. And I know it sounds so silly,
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but I just have not done that. And that's great. This year I'm leading a Bible study and then I'm
in a Bible study. So that's two Bible studies. So we've got two books and then I want to read a book
for me. So I already have those books already planned out and ready to go. So like there's no,
like I'm holding myself accountable to that. And then I'm going to Sabbath every Sunday,
which means for me, no working, which is hard, which is like, I usually work on Sundays, you know,
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an hour or two, no working at all, no social media, no working out, just completely like
letting that day go into church and then Monday, 52 weeks, every Sunday, I'm going to Sabbath.
And of course there might be a day where like I have to sell a class or something like I'm not
going to. That's another thing I think is really important not to beat yourself up. If you can't,
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you know, it's just like part of why I think resolutions can be unhealthy at times, because
we, if we don't hold ourselves to whatever we say we're going to do, I think it's important to
just let it be fluid. So, but the intention and the goal is to have Sundays off. Yep.
U time, self care kind of thing. Self care kind of thing. Something comes up. Yeah,
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I'm not going to be rigid about it. Exactly. Like I'm not going to be rigid. I'm just not a rigid
person in general. Like my personality is not like that. So I think it's not, it's not difficult for
me. But I do think in the past, I would have beaten myself up if I didn't do the thing that I said
I would do. And so that's why I think it's really important when you set your goals. I've really
learned over the course of my life. Not don't, they don't need to be realistic. Like you should
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have your big, hairy, audacious goal, you know, your B. Hey goal. I think it's really important to
write it down or have it visually up. But I also think to show yourself a lot of grace and also
before you even do that, just really what is your intention? Like if you're, if your goals are,
how do I say this? Not biblical or maybe not heaven sent in a way. I think it can be really
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difficult. Like that's why with me, it's like, I just want to, I want to know Jesus and love him
deeper. And that's why I'm claiming like, Hey, I would love to meet my person, but I also know,
Hey, that's not in my control. So I think there's certain things that are in my control, like
making sure that I touch my Bible before I touch my phone in the morning and go to bed at a reasonable
hour. If I have to get up at five in the morning and just like, there's things that are disciplined
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and like that are in my control. And those are the things that I want to be really intentional on.
But the things that I have no control over, like the, bring my person into my life, Lord, or
certain things like that are obviously fluid, but it's really fun to have it
up. And I'm going to be like redoing my loft with some of the stuff that's now in storage
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that I got back from Austin. So I'm really excited to have my things in here and just kind of make
it me and put this up and, and, and just start the year that way. So well, what I think is so
cool about a vision board, you know, and that you actually made it and not just like Pinterest one
or wrote it down, like, I think it is so cool. I want to make one. You should. I should. I should,
but I think it's like, we talk about, we want a man who has a vision and nowhere he's headed. And I
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think as women, as believers, like we have our vision, we know where we're headed. And I think
it's like, what does that mean? What does that look like? And what are the details? And to have
this and look at it. And as a reminder of this is where I'm headed. This is the vision. This is
Romans five through through five. It says pray for wisdom on here. It says to be set apart. It says
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to be debt free. Like these things, that's your vision. That's where you're headed. And I think
that gives you clarity. It does. It gives you clarity of what does this year look like. And
when you feel confused about, is this something, is this where I'm headed? You can go back to your
vision board. I'd be like, is this on track? Yeah. Does it align with my, you know, I've,
I've always been somebody that's very intentional with my yes and my no. I've just, as I've gotten
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older, I say no a lot more. And so it's also a really cool way for me to look at my board and go,
does this align with the person I want to become? Yes or no. Love it. And I think there's going to
be, I know there's going to be really hard days ahead and I'm going to feel discouraged and the
enemy is going to be in my head and I'm exhausted and drained and discouraged in so many ways. And
I'll look at this board and be like, well, we said this and we're going to hold on to hope for this
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thing. And I think it's kind of similar to why I have tattoos on my body. I was talking about this
the other day with some of my friends. They're all reminders and they're all biblically based.
And so for me, it's like, but I come back to the word. I come back to the truth. And, and as
long as I have those things as my foundation, I'm going to be lifted back up again. So that's why I
think it's really important when you are goal setting or setting out your dreams or your prayers
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that they're really intentional and like the leading force in your life is the Lord. Yeah,
because you will not fail. Like you will not fail. You'll be discouraged at times. And that's why
he's there. So I think, I think just having a really healthy mindset around setting your goals
and just want to encourage anyone that is doing that, like have them be based on the Lord and his
goodness and his favor. And you're not going to be discouraged and you're going to get the endurance
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and you're going to get the wisdom and you're going to get the joy from him to fulfill your goals
and the things that you want to get accomplished. Yeah. So, okay. So tell me about you. How do you
prepare for a new year? Well, I'm laughing because I just posted this on Instagram, like
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over the New Year, I was looking through my journals. I had, I was laughing when I saw this.
So many journals, the best. I brought a few in today. I'll have to show you. Yes, show me.
I saw this on Instagram and I was just like, Oh my gosh, we are so the same. And I haven't
thrown any of them away, which I think is hilarious. And I don't want to do them. So I brought one of
my first ones I could find that is November 2005. And my favorite part of it is it says,
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don't look on the front. Don't look. Like guys, if I have some juicy gossip to say in 2005,
when I would, I mean, I mean, are we in 2005? What 14, 15? Yeah, I guess maybe it was no.
But yeah, I mean, you open up and I'm going to read, I'm going to give y'all some sneak
please do. This is what November 28th, 2005. I can't wait for this. I'm so mad today.
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It's the first line.
Also that's so not used. And what the heck? I'm so mad today.
I wish I could go to Josh's basketball game, but Jacob had to be sick. So I can't go. I'm so mad.
Josh and Jacob are my brothers. So I guess I wanted to go to my brother's basketball game,
but my other brother was sick and I couldn't go. That's hilarious.
And that's why I decided to journal about that. Oh my gosh. It's so funny. I love
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journaling and I truly have. I have journals from every single year. I also love that you put the
dates on the front of them. I did that later. I kept all of them and then I actually ended up
going through them later and I would look because I typically will do a journal a year and some of
them are mid year. Like this one says June 2014 to May 2015 because I love that you do this.
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You do that. But yeah, I went back and labeled all of them so I could easily go and look through.
But I feel like I have people ask often, how do you journal or what does it mean to journal?
And I think it's something that I have had a rhythm of truly since middle school.
And part of that is it was modeled for me. My mom does it every single morning when I would come
down stairs. I would come down to get ready for school and she's always on the couch reading
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her Bible and journaling. And I think that was something that she just modeled and I took after.
And it really is funny to look through these journals because that is what I was writing
about when I was 14 about I'm so mad. I mean, I was reading earlier in some of these and I was
like journaling about I was at a wrestling match today at Page Middle School and I needed to get
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picked up, but I couldn't because I don't have a phone because my parents won't give me a phone.
They don't understand. And I'm like, oh, that was a part. And it also does give me perspective
to look back and reflect, especially now being a life coach and coaching middle school girls.
And when I hear them talk about these things that they're upset about, I have grace for it.
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Cause I look back and I read what I was writing about. I'm literally talking about how awful my
parents are because they didn't give me a phone when I was 14, 15. And wow, that's good. It's
really cool to see like those things matter to me though. Or I have a couple of pages in here
where I was like, I'm going to, I have to delete my messages because my inbox is full, you know,
texts back in the day. We had to do that. But I was like, I'm going to write a few down.
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And it is so funny to read what I thought was important to write down like, but you're way too
sweet. August 3rd. Another one, August 4th. Oh yeah. A bunch of money and date money for you. Ha ha.
Like these are the texts that I thought were important enough to write down.
There is. It's so crazy. It's so wild and so innocent. It's so innocent. To the point that I
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felt like it was worth three pages to write about. And three big pages. Three big pages. This is a
huge spiral bound notebook. It's amazing. I love it. I love it. I think what's so fun about New
Years is I will flip through some of these and just see what the Lord has done. And then I
bookmarked a few others that I just want to share. Like this was November 2014. So we're
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10 years later from that first one. And I was looking through this the other day and
my journals started turning more into prayers. And at this point I am traveling around the
world. I think I was in, I was in New Zealand at the time and I'll just read a part of it. But I'm
writing, God, you're amazing. I continually fail over and over again in countless ways. I'm selfish.
I neglect you. I sin. And at the end of it all and in the midst of it all, you are still there.
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Now that's love. Thank you, Lord, for loving me. Thank you for continually pursuing me. You know,
my every desire and all my thoughts, even when I can't put them to words. And for that, I'm so
grateful and that's love. And it just, it's like, it's a release. It's just writing where I'm at,
what I'm feeling. I'm in the middle of New Zealand. I don't know anybody in this country.
And that was what was on my heart. And I think it's sweet too, because I will write about dates
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I go on and guys who impacted me and what I learned from them. And especially when it's like a few
months later, oh, I missed him. I wonder what that was like. And I look back and I read, no, I remember
the disrespect or remember the lack of pursuit or I remember these things because I took the time to
write it down. It's powerful. This one is November of 2017. And it was around Thanksgiving. And I
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wrote a few days ago, I was trying to think of what I'm thankful for. And I was in a sad,
self pity place of thinking there's nothing. I was mad about my job, my income, my singleness,
how I feel surrounded by couples. And all I could think to be thankful for in that moment was,
I guess I'm healthy. Yesterday I was nauseous all evening and I felt sick. It was a reminder that
there's more. Even when I'm sick, there's so much to be thankful for my family really is so
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wonderful friends are great and I'm in plenty. God, you are so good. I have a house, car, clothes,
money and so much more. I'm beyond blessed. And it's just funny how even when we write things,
it's like you're slowly writing these things and I'm like, what am I complaining about?
And I think that is the power of journaling. Yeah, I agree. Being able to do that and Lord,
reveal this to me and show me and let me see where I need to grow and what I need to learn.
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And so yeah, it has just been powerful and to look back and see those things has been super cool.
But I was also going to say, so with that, I think I will take time to look through some
old journals and reflect and just read them. But something I've been doing with my best friend for
kind of like five years now, Jacqueline, she and I have gone through this little
study and at the beginning of every journal, we write, look back and look forward. And it just
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has some prompts and maybe I can post it in the show notes. Yeah, please do. And it was actually
from Magnolia, you know, Chippin. Yes. I think they released this in like, maybe it was 2020.
Okay. So maybe it's been four or five years since she and I have done this specific one.
But it's really cool because it gives you some questions of like, what were standouts from
this year? And it says songs, books, movies, travel, feelings, sounds, tastes, smells. And I
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think what's cool about that is I'm like, wow, tastes, tastes like what's a standout of tastes
from 2024. And then I think about it. I'm like a sourdough. I was making a lot of bread. And then
I think about beef and eggs because that's all I eat. And like, it's just like, when I look back,
they were like, wow, I really was going to the farmer's market. I was super intentional about
grass fed beef and, you know, like free range eggs and then protein powder, collagen, because
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that was important. And then I wrote chef Jeff's cooking, my dad, like he cooked a lot of meals.
And it's fun to categorize it. And like, that was the taste of that year. And then it has other
questions. And so again, y'all should look at this in the show notes. It was, it's just a fun way to
have some prompts as we reflect. Yeah, it's important. And who impacted me? What I, who I
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impacted and then what is my hope for next year? And I wrote that too for my hope for 2020.
And family. And I wrote that and it's like, surprise you, even if it doesn't happen.
Exactly. Yes, he is so good. But I'm also going to write it down because it's okay that I will
look through these journals and I can see in the past 10, 15 years, I have been praying for my husband
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and it hasn't happened. But I'm going to continually keep praying and I'm going to write it down.
Yep. And I'm going to hope for it. Yep. And why not? Why not? You know, and so why not? I would
say like, what if it's wonderful? What if it works out? What if? Because if it doesn't, I mean,
this Tim Ferriss has this analogy, I mean, it's not biblical or anything, but it applies of like,
play out worst case scenario. Oh, yeah. Like he, as you go through this whole thing of like, play
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out the worst case scenario. Is it really your worst case scenario? And I've done that so much.
Yeah. It's not. Oh, sorry, I dreamed big because I really want to get married. Who doesn't want to?
I mean, there were people out there that feel called to sing on this, but like,
yes, it's honest. And I think we're at a point in our live where it's like,
it's now we're taking that, we're making that like declaration of like, Lord,
I think it's easy to be like, if this is your will, Lord, I think I'm still a good heart posture
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to have, right? Like, cause at the end of the day, Lord, if it is your will, yes. And he, he asks us
to be honest with them. He asks us for the desires of our hearts. So I'm going to say my
desire, Lord, I know, you know, but here I am telling you, like I'm ready to be married. Yeah.
And I'm going to say that for 2025 and see what you do. And at the end of the year, if I'm
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reflecting and I'm like, wow, I believed big, but Lord, you had other plans. Let it be. Yeah. Let
it be. Yeah. Cause I'm ready to know. He's done that. You know, it's like, right. It's so true. I
mean, people ask me all the time too. And it's like, I look back, I'm like, my answer to being
single is haven't met the one yet, the one with me. And I don't believe like there's one perfect
person, but I haven't met the one that the Lord knows. And two, thank you Lord for also making
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sure I don't marry anyone I've previously dated. So it's like, even if they want to say, Hey,
we want to get, we want to meet our person this year and it doesn't work out. We'll look back and
be like, Oh yeah, okay. I can see why. And another reason why, as you're writing down all this
evidence and these things that you experienced over the last 10, 15 years on the same way,
I journal exactly like that. I get to go back and go, Oh my gosh, look at all these miracles
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in the moments of the way that the Lord showed up and how much I've grown. And I can't believe I
used to think that way or here's some truth. I thought he was this one way, but no, look at what
it really was like. I was idolizing that in my head, all these things that journals become proof.
And, and I think a great way to get started in journaling is, yeah, make them your prayers to
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the Lord, write it down. Oh my gosh, absolutely. And I think like the honesty it's helpful to
when we can look back and see like where I was. And it's not always easy. And I look back and
like, gosh, that was so hard, but I'm so grateful I wrote down how real it was and how hard it was
because I can see, Oh my gosh, I came out of it. I came out of it. And I mean, I could truly like,
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I just flipped open to this page in one. And it was like, God, I'm asking for help. I don't want
to question or doubt you, but I feel like I am. I'm hurt. And I'm like, wow, that's crazy. I doubted
him because now I'm like, I trust him fully, but I know I'll doubt again. I know I'll question
and I'm human. You're human. I wrote, Lord, help me fight these feelings. I want to trust you in
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your greater plan. Thank you for your provision and goodness, even when I can't see it.
Also funny how many even ifs, even when I literally just thinking that it's crazy how often
that even if comes up, even in conversation, you know, because I think it is such a powerful
just saying a faith like it is faith, faith is even if and yeah. And so I think we're being
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bold in our, you know, our biggest prayer and hope for 2025. And also because we're saying this on
the podcast, we want to encourage if that's in your heart, like ask the Lord for it.
Write it down. Don't be afraid. Be honest. Be honest. I struggle with a lot of my life. I've
struggled with making things known or saying them out loud for fear of disappointment. If I say it
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out loud, well, then there's a chance that I could get excited or, or I don't want to picture something
in my head that hasn't happened because most likely it's not going to happen that way. It couldn't
be that good. And it won't happen that way. So I don't be discouraged, but I just, I really want
to lean into that fear and not be afraid to say the thing that I really want or the thing that I
really pray for and not worry about this discouragement, you know, where the heartache or the pain or
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whatever. I mean, I've experienced all those things in my life. So why am I not going to just
boldly stand in this year and go, I'm praying that I meet the one this year. Sure. You know,
why not? Why not? Yeah. So with New Year's stuff, what do you think about like when,
when it's a new year and it's like time for resolutions and New Year's goals,
what's your New Year's resolution? Like would you say you have a New Year's resolution? I mean,
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obviously you have a vision. We have reflections. Yeah. What about resolutions? What do you
feel like for you? I feel like resolutions, there's a lot of pressure around resolutions,
I think, because if you go into the New Year and you're like, I'm not going to drink and then
four days in you have a drink or I'm not going to scroll on my phone before bed and three days in
you do that. Like there's some things habitually that you have to break if you want to do that. So
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I think New Year's resolutions can put a lot of pressure on people. I've always been a goal-oriented
person. And so I've always looked at the New Year as write the goals down, Q1 through Q4.
This year, last year, I didn't have any of that. I was in a very dark place. It was really,
it was just stark difference between last year and this year for a lot of reasons.
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This year, I feel like it's the first year I've gone into prior to January one, knowing what I
wanted my year to look like and having this theme of hope kind of just scattered throughout every
area of my life. It's the first year I've ever had a saying for the year. I know a lot of people
say they have a word or a saying for the year. I've never really felt bad. I've never felt called
to that. I have gone through different years where I'll put a lot of pressure on myself to work out
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every day and do all these things and the very unrealistic, unhealthy wrong motive. I feel like
I'm finally in my 30s, honestly, has been just where I have them. The motivation is healthy.
I believe in goals. I believe in having a vision. I believe in writing things down. I believe in
talking to your community about it so that they can hold you accountable and encourage you.
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Whatever that looks like for you, I don't think you need to hit January one and know what that
looks like if you need time. If you need more of January to pray through it or think through it,
depending on what your beliefs are. I definitely spent a lot of time. I think that's why I'm so
grateful we just both took December to be because I just heard the Lord so clearly. Honestly,
starting December off with that mission trip and having my friends and you just pouring into me
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of just different things that I've learned over the last year. I believe in resolutions 100% as
long as the motive is healthy. The resolution, I don't love that word. I think it needs to be like,
what's your prayer for this year? What's your vision for this year? Where do you want it to go?
Because the thing is, the other side of it is you just kind of fall into a new year. Nothing
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changes when the calendar year changes. We can say, oh, it's January one, 2025. It's like, well,
nothing, have you changed? We don't change that quickly. But I think just because the calendar
year has changed, it's you that has to do the work. It's you that has to show up to the workout
class. It's you that has to put your phone on do not disturb. It's you that has to turn your
lot. I think get enough sleep. So I think with resolutions, I would change that word into prayers
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and dreams and vision and goals. I wouldn't put a ton of pressure around it to have it done by
a certain date. But I would really put some emphasis on it around January. If you don't have it yet,
and then I'd write it down, put it up, tell you people and set some set some goals for yourself.
Because I think one of the worst things we can do as humans is just go about our day every day.
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And we're going to look up one day and be 50 years old and wonder where our life went.
What happened? What happened? Where did it go? What did I do? Was I okay? And I think
really doing some hard work and asking your people, hey, what areas do you think I could
work in? That's a really hard question to ask, but I think it's a really honest one.
Totally. I asked my friends the other day, when we were talking about my prayer and stuff, I was
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like, I know what kind of guy I want and the kind of guy I'm praying for, but what do you see?
That's great. What strengths and characteristics and qualities do you think that he needs to have?
And so I think it's just important to have conversations around that. So it's a really
long-winded answer. The summary of that is just, yeah, like put it out there. I love it. Be intentional.
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I love it. And I think too, like you said, this was your first year that you had a phrase,
expect a miracle with uncommon hope. And I think some people are like, I don't know my word for
the year. That's a big, how do I decide something for 12 months? That is hard. Yes. But also what
you've done in the past that encouraged me and I've talked about this multiple times is the word
of the month. And I think that's so cool. And I'm continuing that this year of just like, I want
to do a word every month because I do think resolution sometimes can feel huge. If it's like,
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I'm going to do this every single day. Like last year, I don't know if it was a resolution,
but it was like a desire. I wanted to read the Bible. I've never read through the whole Bible.
And so I started on a Bible reading plan and I did it. Yeah, girl. I was 31st. How do you?
And it was so cool. But it's like, then what? Then you just stop and I stopped reading my
Bible because I hit my goal. And it's like, no, how do I make it a habit?
Yes.
I can carry on to this year too. It's not just like a checklist of do it and done.
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And so I think what's helpful is breaking it up to saying, one, how is this something that I can
continually add into my life and make it part of who I am, not just a thing to say I did it.
Yeah.
And so I think that's important. And also I was going to share another journal I brought because
my sweet aunt, Aunt Lorraine, I love her so much, but she gave me a gift to the beginning of January.
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She said it was for birthday month, but she's told me about this podcast. It's called the
Next Right Thing and it's by Emily P. Freeman. So and I'll also link the journal.
I want to get that too. But yeah, the podcast is called the Next Right Thing and there is a
guided journal for it. And what it's really cool about this is it's what you said about how you
said I break things into Q1, Q2. I think breaking them into quarters or seasons,
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however you want to view it is so helpful. And what's cool about this journal is I don't always
love like a guided journal thing because I like to just journal what's on my heart.
Yeah.
But it has some intentional questions for looking ahead because I think something I've
noticed about myself is I'm good at looking back. I'm good at reflecting. I'm good at saying,
what did I learn from that? I'm going to read through these journals, but to take time and say,
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what am I looking ahead at? And so it'll say like, let me pull this up. Okay. So it'll have a look
ahead list for blank and it has whatever season. And so season, winter, or as you say, Q1. And it's
like travel. So then it helps me think, what are my upcoming travel? How can I budget for that?
Love.
What trips do I have? What deadlines do I have? What's going on in the family? And I'm like,
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oh, February, I have another niece. You know, and just like being aware of that, what celebrations
are coming up? I love this. Yes. Community. And so I think it's nice because again, it's like the
quarter vision board. It's the quarterly, seasonally, what's coming up. And then from that,
you take the next right step. What's the next right thing to get you there. And so
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I'm going to be interested. I've never done something like this. I've never had this journal
before. So I'm excited to use this alongside my regular journal. Yeah, I love that. And just kind
of have like a couple steps looking forward while also trying to be present in journal and
continually looking back and reflecting. I love the name of that because we always talk about this.
I see this a lot in my classes, like do the next right thing. I know, you know, it's constantly
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like, hey, it just, it disarms this pressure to like know what to do. Yes. And instead of trying
to look at the whole staircase and figure out how you're going to figure this out, it's like,
no, just take the next step. You don't have to know. You don't have to know. I feel like prompts
like that too are going to be so fruitful for you at the end of this year to look back. You know,
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I know you have to look back and I think that's a gift that you have and strength. And it's funny
too. I feel like people, I've struggled with dreaming big. It's, I think my friends can dream
really big for me. I think it's easy to dream big for your, for your friends. I think it's harder
to look at your life and go, what am I capable of? But I think that's something that really comes
with cool setting. Like we used to talk about this where we used to work the B.H. goal, the big
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Heria Decius goal. Like what is the big thing that you want? Also, is that something other people
say? Or was that just a Ramsey thing? I don't know. I say it a lot and I wonder, I wonder that too.
I think people talk about it, right? Surely. I think it's a Ramsey thing. It might be a Ramsey
thing. So anyways, guys, if you hear us say B.H. that's what that big Heria Decius goal,
like your big goal, not just like a goal, but like the big, big Heria Decius goal.
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I just remember when I first started working there, everybody casually used it. I feel like it's
like a, so maybe it's a business word, a business. If it's not, then we're just a bunch of weirdos
talking about Heria goals. But I just, I love that. And I love journaling. And I feel like if
you're taking anything away from this episode is to write it down because I think too, we have a
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really bad memory as humans. And we forget not only the things that God has done for us, but we
forget the things that we said we were going to do. One of my favorite things to say in class
is to say, do the thing that you said you'd do. And I always tell my classes, I'm really proud
of them because they showed up. And it's enough to show up, but then you get in the room and,
okay, now we got to work. Like, let's work. Like do the thing you said you do. Run hard on this run.
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Don't just, you know, give it half of your effort. Like give it everything that you have.
Yes. So I will literally tell my girls that in my life coaching sessions too. I think
one of the greatest ways to build confidence and ourselves, like when girls want to be more
confident is do what you say you're going to do. If I say I'm going to do this, then follow through.
It's like, then you just grow in this confidence of like, I know where I'm going. I know where I'm
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headed. I know what I'm doing. It builds our confidence. No, it totally does. And I think
that's again, when you're going into, I mean, we're already in the new year. So if you still are yet
to kind of figure out your goals, you feel like it's a blow one, it's not too late, but to like
make sure that their goals that you feel like you can follow through with. Because I think the
worst thing that could happen is you set these goals that again, don't align with your values or
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are kind of way out there. And then you're going to beat yourself and you're going to,
your confidence is going to go down. But if you can do the thing that you said you do and commit to
that, you're going to build your confidence, which is the whole point anyways, you know,
build your character. So I think that'll be great. So all this to say, like, there is not a right
way and a wrong way to do it. And I think that's what Kenzie and I hope as we're sharing this is
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just like there, you can do a vision board, you can journal, you can reflect, you can look forward,
you can pray, you can read your Bible, you can do whatever. And there's so many different ways.
And there's journals and there's prompts. And there are so many things of ways you can do this.
Again, there is not a right and a wrong. But I think the importance is just taking time to
reflect, set your intentions and don't let life just like pass by without the intentional time,
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whether it's with a group of friends, maybe sit down and you talk and you say, yeah, like,
Hey, is there anything you see in me that I can work on? Or maybe it is one on one, or maybe it's,
or maybe it's by yourself and with the Lord and just taking time to do that. But I just think
our hope and prayer for this podcast episode today specifically is just to encourage you to think,
reflect, share with us anything to message us on here on Instagram, wherever, and let us know what
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y'all do because there are so many things out there. And so anyways, we would just love to hear
what y'all do to love it. We'd love it. We just want to hear from you. So don't ever be afraid to
slide into the DMs. And just remember, even if last year was good, bad, or maybe not what you
expected, his mercies are new every morning. And it's a new day. Let's welcome 2025.
Welcome back to the Even If podcast. I'm Kenzie and I'm Sarah. And even if last year was good,
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bad, or maybe not what you expected, his mercies are new every morning and it's a new day. Let's
welcome 2025. 2025. Today we are going to catch y'all up on the last month. We took December. We
did not record. We didn't post anything. So we just want to kid you guys up on the last month,
talk 2025, our goals, our prayers, how we're feeling about the new year, all the things.
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Yeah. How was your December? How was the time off for you? Because it was great. I mean,
first of all, we're so happy to be back. I know. It's so good to be back. It's so good to be back.
Feels like forever kind of. I know it really does. Done this. But yeah, how was your December? How
was the break? How was the time off? It was the best. It was the best. I got to start December
off by going on a missions trip to the DR with just the most incredible people. And I was gone
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for a week completely off the grid. Phone on, do not disturb. Not on social media. I mean, it was
just, oh, it was, it was a week that I will treasure for the rest of my life. It was so
wonderful. And then I got home and I just didn't want to jump back into my life. I wanted to take
time and just be, and I think going into December, both Sarah and I were just like praying through
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like, let's just, we just both fell in our heart. Like, let's just take a month and take a beat. And
we didn't want to record. We really wanted to just rest. I think both of us were just really
exhausted from the year. And so for me, December was, I truly just rested. And as an achiever,
as somebody that's always busy, I just didn't feel like doing anything. That's not like me. So I just
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let that be true. And I leaned into it. Yeah. And it was the best. Yeah. How was it? It was so good.
It's slow days. And, oh, I mean, obviously, I assume full ride is probably maybe a little slower
because people are traveling. Yes. It was, December was always a really dead month, especially
in Nashville because it's such like a transplant city. So people are always gone. And I still
teach. We were closed, we were closed Christmas Eve, Christmas day. We still had classes, but I just,
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I was, I have had a, 2024 was a hustle year. I ran fast and with work, it was wonderful. But my body
was just at the, towards the end of the year, I was like, please, just, I can't, my mind. I think I
just had to also just not get caught up in keeping up with the Joneses, not looking at other fitness
studios and what they're doing. And I just needed to hear from the Lord and just, and rest. And I
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felt like he was telling me, just stop. Like I had no desire to be on social media, which I
normally love doing and sharing my heart. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to leave my phone in
my house and go for a walk with my dogs, which I did a lot. I went to bed really, really early. I
slept in, I spent time with the Lord in ways that I have not done. Honestly, I can't remember
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last time I did that. And I feel like for me as a business owner, for me as a daughter, as a sister,
as a friend, I was doing that for, in preparation for 2025. It was like my hibernation month.
Love that. And I feel like I just am so restored and so at peace. I feel so at ease.
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And now I'm like, I can, I'm chomping at the bit. You're like coming out of it.
Yeah, I'm coming out of it. Which is so cool. It was so cool to feel that. That's awesome.
Yeah. What about you? How was your December? Tell me.
Yeah, it was good. It was same. I had my book release in November and I feel like that was crazy.
I was posting so much and posting on social media and social media in general and marketing is just
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yeah, it's more draining for me. Like it just takes effort and time. I enjoy it. It just takes time.
And so I think to have done that and seen an amazing response, book sales crushed it was so fun,
crushed it, encouraging. And then I just feel like I kind of took a pause. I was like, I'm not going
to push this right now. I was going to do some book signings and readings. And I just thought,
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I'm going to break. Yeah. And I'm good. Like I'm so proud of Cal Girl Mermaid. I'm excited about it.
And I am good. And then us taking a break with the podcast was a nice rest in that just taking
time off. And then the school that I work at is obviously on Christmas break. And then my clients
and my own coaching business have slowed down also just with the travel. And so it truly has been such
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a break restful month. So good. And yeah, it's the same. It's like, I feel like I have slowed down
and taken time to just read and journal and be intentional. But also with that, the lack of
structure for me personally, it's hard sometimes. Like I feel like my workouts haven't been as regular.
And you know, things like that, that you're the same as you. I'm like, ready to get back to the
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routine at least and just having that structure. But I think it is good to slow down and be
intentional about what we're doing. And then you really enjoy it. Like I feel like when you do let
your body kind of eat what it wants, kind of, you know, not as strict a routine, hardly working
out, all those kinds of things. And you're like, you have this new found appreciation and desire
to go do those things. And your body needs rest, you know, we're both trainers, like we know how
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this is, we know that we'll jump right back into it. I think it's also rare when we're like
slacking on our workouts or lack of a better word. But then it's like, we jump into it. And we're
like, yeah, no, our body needed it needed it. You needed a break. You work multiple different
jobs in different areas. You launched a podcast, you launched a book. You're, you know, like it
was a lot. And I think it's, I think it's takes a lot of confidence to be able to just say no
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and rest. And how has your new year been? Cause now we're, we're in 2025.
We're in 2025. Yeah, no, it's been good. I think I always just love a new year. I love a new year.
I love a birthday. I love the start of the school year. It is coming up. It is coming up.
I just love the mark of fresh and new start and nothing you can't do that anytime of the year.
But I think just like for me, I am, I really love the intentionality of slowing down and
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reflecting. And I think it's a good excuse to pull out my journals to take time to do that.
And it's so fun. My new year actually started, started so fun. I did a polar plunge, which I
hate the cold. Oh, I hate it so much. Hate it so much. But I saw this on Instagram. You just jumped
right in. Oh, just I was like, it was awful. It was so cold on New Year's Day. It's this thing
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that I have some friends that do it out in Dixon, Tennessee. And they've been doing it like 15 years
or so. And when I'm in town and have the courage, I'll do it. But it's different than when I used
to live in Charleston. And we would do a polar plunge in the ocean because it was just not as
cold as creeks here in Tennessee, that are flowing water. Oh, I'm cold. Just thinking about it.
Yeah. No, it's freezing. But then I actually went squirrel hawking. Oh, you would check me up. So
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fun. It was just the best way to ring in the New Year. January 1st, I'm out there going hunting with
big old hawk and catching squirrels. It was just so fun. Oh my gosh, you're hilarious.
So anyway, Tennessee girl, it was, it was really good. Really good. But okay, I'm so excited to
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jump into this. We have some fun things to talk about. Yes. And I have first, we have our, we
have your vision board in here right behind us in the studio. We have a vision board. We have some
of my journals and we're just going to kind of dive into some of this. So I actually haven't
even heard about this vision board. And I saw it on Instagram and was like, I am so excited to hear
more. So can you share, it's this beautiful little poster behind us with some magazine clippings,
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maybe? Yeah. I don't know. Tell us about it. What is this? Okay. So I'm a, I love a New Year. I'm
like a big, like I love dates. I think dates are really significant. I'm a big planner. I wouldn't
say I'm Taipei, but I'm close to that probably. Like I just love to make a plan and go execute.
Yeah. And this year, usually I write goals and, you know, have them in different, my categories,
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professional, spiritual, all these things. And this year, I just felt this common theme of hope
the last six weeks. And the last December, I have a saying for the year, and I've never had a saying
for the year. I usually have a saying every month, like a word every month. This year, I have a saying
and it's kind of two part, the first part I heard about it. I was in Austin and I was at church
with some friends and there was this phrase that the pastor said of uncommon hope. And I was like,
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wow, uncommon hope. I love that. And then one of my best friends in my Bible study, she constantly
tells me, can't expect a miracle. And she was praying over me before I left for the mission
strip. And she, I just heard the Lord say, I want you to expect a miracle with uncommon hope in 2025.
And it was so clear. I started crying and I was just like, oh my gosh, yes, I feel so hopeful
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about my year. And I think a lot of it came from, I think, you know, one of the greatest gifts we
can ever have is to lose everything we were never meant to keep. And that was 2024 for me.
That's perspective for sure. It was just a cleansing and excavation, losing of, you know,
money and a relationship and employees and all that stuff. So my vision board, I was like,
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actually this year really want to have a visual vision board instead of just things written down
in my journal. So I went to Michaels and I got this like canvas painting board and I ordered
some magazines online. And basically I just went through magazines for a couple of days of just
things that stood out to me after I had kind of been praying through my focuses for the year. And
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and so basically what I have is I have my saying for the year, which says expect a miracle with
uncommon hope. And then something that's pretty vulnerable to share, but it's also just honest.
I am, I'm really praying for that I'll meet the person that God has for me this year. And I'm
okay to say that even if it doesn't happen, because again, what's our podcast called? Even if, like
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I just, I want to claim that though. I want to ask the Lord, I've never asked the Lord like, okay,
Lord, bring him to me. Like I'm ready to meet the person that you have for me. Because I never
felt fully ready, if I'm honest. And I have never been in a place that I'm in at right now. Like,
I am just this woman that I'm really proud to be. And I have been, I feel like the Lord has placed
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me in different situations the last few months. And I've literally in my mind gone, whoa, that's
not at all how I would have responded before. Or, wow, my heart just feels so cleansed or my mind
feels so, so at ease, like this is so wild and weird. And then I'm like, no, wait, of course it is,
you've done so much work. You see him and I can see him power his in my whole body and my heart
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and my mind and everything. So, so I'm like, you know what, I'm claiming that. And I asked some
friends like just how, how to be praying for that. Like, what does that look like? And then
just to specifically be praying for that. So that's part on the vision board of just like wanting
that person and believing for the impossible because it does feel impossible at times, of course.
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So I have pictures of that and saying you are not too old and it is not too late.
Steward, what's in front of you? One of my favorite, one of my favorite verses is Romans
five, three through five. And so not only, but we were joyous in the suffering, knowing that
suffering produces endurance and endurance produces character. And you know that first
that keeps going. So that's at the center pray for wisdom. People are the treasures. So I have a
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lot of just like people because people are my favorite thing in the world. And, and then just
trusting God's timing hopes kind of throughout the entire vision board. And then I've got some
podcast stuff of Sarah's and my goals. So we have some pictures of podcast stuff. I want to read
one of my things this year is I want to read a book every month. And I know it sounds so silly,
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but I just have not done that. And that's great. This year I'm leading a Bible study and then I'm
in a Bible study. So that's two Bible studies. So we've got two books and then I want to read a book
for me. So I already have those books already planned out and ready to go. So like there's no,
like I'm holding myself accountable to that. And then I'm going to Sabbath every Sunday,
which means for me, no working, which is hard, which is like, I usually work on Sundays, you know,
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an hour or two, no working at all, no social media, no working out, just completely like
letting that day go into church and then Monday, 52 weeks, every Sunday, I'm going to Sabbath.
And of course there might be a day where like I have to sell a class or something like I'm not
going to. That's another thing I think is really important not to beat yourself up. If you can't,
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you know, it's just like part of why I think resolutions can be unhealthy at times, because
we, if we don't hold ourselves to whatever we say we're going to do, I think it's important to
just let it be fluid. So, but the intention and the goal is to have Sundays off. Yep.
U time, self care kind of thing. Self care kind of thing. Something comes up. Yeah,
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I'm not going to be rigid about it. Exactly. Like I'm not going to be rigid. I'm just not a rigid
person in general. Like my personality is not like that. So I think it's not, it's not difficult for
me. But I do think in the past, I would have beaten myself up if I didn't do the thing that I said
I would do. And so that's why I think it's really important when you set your goals. I've really
learned over the course of my life. Not don't, they don't need to be realistic. Like you should
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have your big, hairy, audacious goal, you know, your B. Hey goal. I think it's really important to
write it down or have it visually up. But I also think to show yourself a lot of grace and also
before you even do that, just really what is your intention? Like if you're, if your goals are,
how do I say this? Not biblical or maybe not heaven sent in a way. I think it can be really
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difficult. Like that's why with me, it's like, I just want to, I want to know Jesus and love him
deeper. And that's why I'm claiming like, Hey, I would love to meet my person, but I also know,
Hey, that's not in my control. So I think there's certain things that are in my control, like
making sure that I touch my Bible before I touch my phone in the morning and go to bed at a reasonable
hour. If I have to get up at five in the morning and just like, there's things that are disciplined
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and like that are in my control. And those are the things that I want to be really intentional on.
But the things that I have no control over, like the, bring my person into my life, Lord, or
certain things like that are obviously fluid, but it's really fun to have it
up. And I'm going to be like redoing my loft with some of the stuff that's now in storage
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that I got back from Austin. So I'm really excited to have my things in here and just kind of make
it me and put this up and, and, and just start the year that way. So well, what I think is so
cool about a vision board, you know, and that you actually made it and not just like Pinterest one
or wrote it down, like, I think it is so cool. I want to make one. You should. I should. I should,
but I think it's like, we talk about, we want a man who has a vision and nowhere he's headed. And I
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think as women, as believers, like we have our vision, we know where we're headed. And I think
it's like, what does that mean? What does that look like? And what are the details? And to have
this and look at it. And as a reminder of this is where I'm headed. This is the vision. This is
Romans five through through five. It says pray for wisdom on here. It says to be set apart. It says
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to be debt free. Like these things, that's your vision. That's where you're headed. And I think
that gives you clarity. It does. It gives you clarity of what does this year look like. And
when you feel confused about, is this something, is this where I'm headed? You can go back to your
vision board. I'd be like, is this on track? Yeah. Does it align with my, you know, I've,
I've always been somebody that's very intentional with my yes and my no. I've just, as I've gotten
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older, I say no a lot more. And so it's also a really cool way for me to look at my board and go,
does this align with the person I want to become? Yes or no. Love it. And I think there's going to
be, I know there's going to be really hard days ahead and I'm going to feel discouraged and the
enemy is going to be in my head and I'm exhausted and drained and discouraged in so many ways. And
I'll look at this board and be like, well, we said this and we're going to hold on to hope for this
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thing. And I think it's kind of similar to why I have tattoos on my body. I was talking about this
the other day with some of my friends. They're all reminders and they're all biblically based.
And so for me, it's like, but I come back to the word. I come back to the truth. And, and as
long as I have those things as my foundation, I'm going to be lifted back up again. So that's why I
think it's really important when you are goal setting or setting out your dreams or your prayers
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that they're really intentional and like the leading force in your life is the Lord. Yeah,
because you will not fail. Like you will not fail. You'll be discouraged at times. And that's why
he's there. So I think, I think just having a really healthy mindset around setting your goals
and just want to encourage anyone that is doing that, like have them be based on the Lord and his
goodness and his favor. And you're not going to be discouraged and you're going to get the endurance
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and you're going to get the wisdom and you're going to get the joy from him to fulfill your goals
and the things that you want to get accomplished. Yeah. So, okay. So tell me about you. How do you
prepare for a new year? Well, I'm laughing because I just posted this on Instagram, like
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over the New Year, I was looking through my journals. I had, I was laughing when I saw this.
So many journals, the best. I brought a few in today. I'll have to show you. Yes, show me.
I saw this on Instagram and I was just like, Oh my gosh, we are so the same. And I haven't
thrown any of them away, which I think is hilarious. And I don't want to do them. So I brought one of
my first ones I could find that is November 2005. And my favorite part of it is it says,
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don't look on the front. Don't look. Like guys, if I have some juicy gossip to say in 2005,
when I would, I mean, I mean, are we in 2005? What 14, 15? Yeah, I guess maybe it was no.
But yeah, I mean, you open up and I'm going to read, I'm going to give y'all some sneak
please do. This is what November 28th, 2005. I can't wait for this. I'm so mad today.
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It's the first line.
Also that's so not used. And what the heck? I'm so mad today.
I wish I could go to Josh's basketball game, but Jacob had to be sick. So I can't go. I'm so mad.
Josh and Jacob are my brothers. So I guess I wanted to go to my brother's basketball game,
but my other brother was sick and I couldn't go. That's hilarious.
And that's why I decided to journal about that. Oh my gosh. It's so funny. I love
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journaling and I truly have. I have journals from every single year. I also love that you put the
dates on the front of them. I did that later. I kept all of them and then I actually ended up
going through them later and I would look because I typically will do a journal a year and some of
them are mid year. Like this one says June 2014 to May 2015 because I love that you do this.
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You do that. But yeah, I went back and labeled all of them so I could easily go and look through.
But I feel like I have people ask often, how do you journal or what does it mean to journal?
And I think it's something that I have had a rhythm of truly since middle school.
And part of that is it was modeled for me. My mom does it every single morning when I would come
down stairs. I would come down to get ready for school and she's always on the couch reading
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her Bible and journaling. And I think that was something that she just modeled and I took after.
And it really is funny to look through these journals because that is what I was writing
about when I was 14 about I'm so mad. I mean, I was reading earlier in some of these and I was
like journaling about I was at a wrestling match today at Page Middle School and I needed to get
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picked up, but I couldn't because I don't have a phone because my parents won't give me a phone.
They don't understand. And I'm like, oh, that was a part. And it also does give me perspective
to look back and reflect, especially now being a life coach and coaching middle school girls.
And when I hear them talk about these things that they're upset about, I have grace for it.
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Cause I look back and I read what I was writing about. I'm literally talking about how awful my
parents are because they didn't give me a phone when I was 14, 15. And wow, that's good. It's
really cool to see like those things matter to me though. Or I have a couple of pages in here
where I was like, I'm going to, I have to delete my messages because my inbox is full, you know,
texts back in the day. We had to do that. But I was like, I'm going to write a few down.
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And it is so funny to read what I thought was important to write down like, but you're way too
sweet. August 3rd. Another one, August 4th. Oh yeah. A bunch of money and date money for you. Ha ha.
Like these are the texts that I thought were important enough to write down.
There is. It's so crazy. It's so wild and so innocent. It's so innocent. To the point that I
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felt like it was worth three pages to write about. And three big pages. Three big pages. This is a
huge spiral bound notebook. It's amazing. I love it. I love it. I think what's so fun about New
Years is I will flip through some of these and just see what the Lord has done. And then I
bookmarked a few others that I just want to share. Like this was November 2014. So we're
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10 years later from that first one. And I was looking through this the other day and
my journals started turning more into prayers. And at this point I am traveling around the
world. I think I was in, I was in New Zealand at the time and I'll just read a part of it. But I'm
writing, God, you're amazing. I continually fail over and over again in countless ways. I'm selfish.
I neglect you. I sin. And at the end of it all and in the midst of it all, you are still there.
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Now that's love. Thank you, Lord, for loving me. Thank you for continually pursuing me. You know,
my every desire and all my thoughts, even when I can't put them to words. And for that, I'm so
grateful and that's love. And it just, it's like, it's a release. It's just writing where I'm at,
what I'm feeling. I'm in the middle of New Zealand. I don't know anybody in this country.
And that was what was on my heart. And I think it's sweet too, because I will write about dates
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I go on and guys who impacted me and what I learned from them. And especially when it's like a few
months later, oh, I missed him. I wonder what that was like. And I look back and I read, no, I remember
the disrespect or remember the lack of pursuit or I remember these things because I took the time to
write it down. It's powerful. This one is November of 2017. And it was around Thanksgiving. And I
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wrote a few days ago, I was trying to think of what I'm thankful for. And I was in a sad,
self pity place of thinking there's nothing. I was mad about my job, my income, my singleness,
how I feel surrounded by couples. And all I could think to be thankful for in that moment was,
I guess I'm healthy. Yesterday I was nauseous all evening and I felt sick. It was a reminder that
there's more. Even when I'm sick, there's so much to be thankful for my family really is so
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wonderful friends are great and I'm in plenty. God, you are so good. I have a house, car, clothes,
money and so much more. I'm beyond blessed. And it's just funny how even when we write things,
it's like you're slowly writing these things and I'm like, what am I complaining about?
And I think that is the power of journaling. Yeah, I agree. Being able to do that and Lord,
reveal this to me and show me and let me see where I need to grow and what I need to learn.
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And so yeah, it has just been powerful and to look back and see those things has been super cool.
But I was also going to say, so with that, I think I will take time to look through some
old journals and reflect and just read them. But something I've been doing with my best friend for
kind of like five years now, Jacqueline, she and I have gone through this little
study and at the beginning of every journal, we write, look back and look forward. And it just
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has some prompts and maybe I can post it in the show notes. Yeah, please do. And it was actually
from Magnolia, you know, Chippin. Yes. I think they released this in like, maybe it was 2020.
Okay. So maybe it's been four or five years since she and I have done this specific one.
But it's really cool because it gives you some questions of like, what were standouts from
this year? And it says songs, books, movies, travel, feelings, sounds, tastes, smells. And I
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think what's cool about that is I'm like, wow, tastes, tastes like what's a standout of tastes
from 2024. And then I think about it. I'm like a sourdough. I was making a lot of bread. And then
I think about beef and eggs because that's all I eat. And like, it's just like, when I look back,
they were like, wow, I really was going to the farmer's market. I was super intentional about
grass fed beef and, you know, like free range eggs and then protein powder, collagen, because
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that was important. And then I wrote chef Jeff's cooking, my dad, like he cooked a lot of meals.
And it's fun to categorize it. And like, that was the taste of that year. And then it has other
questions. And so again, y'all should look at this in the show notes. It was, it's just a fun way to
have some prompts as we reflect. Yeah, it's important. And who impacted me? What I, who I
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impacted and then what is my hope for next year? And I wrote that too for my hope for 2020.
And family. And I wrote that and it's like, surprise you, even if it doesn't happen.
Exactly. Yes, he is so good. But I'm also going to write it down because it's okay that I will
look through these journals and I can see in the past 10, 15 years, I have been praying for my husband
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and it hasn't happened. But I'm going to continually keep praying and I'm going to write it down.
Yep. And I'm going to hope for it. Yep. And why not? Why not? You know, and so why not? I would
say like, what if it's wonderful? What if it works out? What if? Because if it doesn't, I mean,
this Tim Ferriss has this analogy, I mean, it's not biblical or anything, but it applies of like,
play out worst case scenario. Oh, yeah. Like he, as you go through this whole thing of like, play
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out the worst case scenario. Is it really your worst case scenario? And I've done that so much.
Yeah. It's not. Oh, sorry, I dreamed big because I really want to get married. Who doesn't want to?
I mean, there were people out there that feel called to sing on this, but like,
yes, it's honest. And I think we're at a point in our live where it's like,
it's now we're taking that, we're making that like declaration of like, Lord,
I think it's easy to be like, if this is your will, Lord, I think I'm still a good heart posture
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to have, right? Like, cause at the end of the day, Lord, if it is your will, yes. And he, he asks us
to be honest with them. He asks us for the desires of our hearts. So I'm going to say my
desire, Lord, I know, you know, but here I am telling you, like I'm ready to be married. Yeah.
And I'm going to say that for 2025 and see what you do. And at the end of the year, if I'm
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reflecting and I'm like, wow, I believed big, but Lord, you had other plans. Let it be. Yeah. Let
it be. Yeah. Cause I'm ready to know. He's done that. You know, it's like, right. It's so true. I
mean, people ask me all the time too. And it's like, I look back, I'm like, my answer to being
single is haven't met the one yet, the one with me. And I don't believe like there's one perfect
person, but I haven't met the one that the Lord knows. And two, thank you Lord for also making
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sure I don't marry anyone I've previously dated. So it's like, even if they want to say, Hey,
we want to get, we want to meet our person this year and it doesn't work out. We'll look back and
be like, Oh yeah, okay. I can see why. And another reason why, as you're writing down all this
evidence and these things that you experienced over the last 10, 15 years on the same way,
I journal exactly like that. I get to go back and go, Oh my gosh, look at all these miracles
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in the moments of the way that the Lord showed up and how much I've grown. And I can't believe I
used to think that way or here's some truth. I thought he was this one way, but no, look at what
it really was like. I was idolizing that in my head, all these things that journals become proof.
And, and I think a great way to get started in journaling is, yeah, make them your prayers to
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the Lord, write it down. Oh my gosh, absolutely. And I think like the honesty it's helpful to
when we can look back and see like where I was. And it's not always easy. And I look back and
like, gosh, that was so hard, but I'm so grateful I wrote down how real it was and how hard it was
because I can see, Oh my gosh, I came out of it. I came out of it. And I mean, I could truly like,
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I just flipped open to this page in one. And it was like, God, I'm asking for help. I don't want
to question or doubt you, but I feel like I am. I'm hurt. And I'm like, wow, that's crazy. I doubted
him because now I'm like, I trust him fully, but I know I'll doubt again. I know I'll question
and I'm human. You're human. I wrote, Lord, help me fight these feelings. I want to trust you in
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your greater plan. Thank you for your provision and goodness, even when I can't see it.
Also funny how many even ifs, even when I literally just thinking that it's crazy how often
that even if comes up, even in conversation, you know, because I think it is such a powerful
just saying a faith like it is faith, faith is even if and yeah. And so I think we're being
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bold in our, you know, our biggest prayer and hope for 2025. And also because we're saying this on
the podcast, we want to encourage if that's in your heart, like ask the Lord for it.
Write it down. Don't be afraid. Be honest. Be honest. I struggle with a lot of my life. I've
struggled with making things known or saying them out loud for fear of disappointment. If I say it
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out loud, well, then there's a chance that I could get excited or, or I don't want to picture something
in my head that hasn't happened because most likely it's not going to happen that way. It couldn't
be that good. And it won't happen that way. So I don't be discouraged, but I just, I really want
to lean into that fear and not be afraid to say the thing that I really want or the thing that I
really pray for and not worry about this discouragement, you know, where the heartache or the pain or
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whatever. I mean, I've experienced all those things in my life. So why am I not going to just
boldly stand in this year and go, I'm praying that I meet the one this year. Sure. You know,
why not? Why not? Yeah. So with New Year's stuff, what do you think about like when,
when it's a new year and it's like time for resolutions and New Year's goals,
what's your New Year's resolution? Like would you say you have a New Year's resolution? I mean,
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obviously you have a vision. We have reflections. Yeah. What about resolutions? What do you
feel like for you? I feel like resolutions, there's a lot of pressure around resolutions,
I think, because if you go into the New Year and you're like, I'm not going to drink and then
four days in you have a drink or I'm not going to scroll on my phone before bed and three days in
you do that. Like there's some things habitually that you have to break if you want to do that. So
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I think New Year's resolutions can put a lot of pressure on people. I've always been a goal-oriented
person. And so I've always looked at the New Year as write the goals down, Q1 through Q4.
This year, last year, I didn't have any of that. I was in a very dark place. It was really,
it was just stark difference between last year and this year for a lot of reasons.
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This year, I feel like it's the first year I've gone into prior to January one, knowing what I
wanted my year to look like and having this theme of hope kind of just scattered throughout every
area of my life. It's the first year I've ever had a saying for the year. I know a lot of people
say they have a word or a saying for the year. I've never really felt bad. I've never felt called
to that. I have gone through different years where I'll put a lot of pressure on myself to work out
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every day and do all these things and the very unrealistic, unhealthy wrong motive. I feel like
I'm finally in my 30s, honestly, has been just where I have them. The motivation is healthy.
I believe in goals. I believe in having a vision. I believe in writing things down. I believe in
talking to your community about it so that they can hold you accountable and encourage you.
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Whatever that looks like for you, I don't think you need to hit January one and know what that
looks like if you need time. If you need more of January to pray through it or think through it,
depending on what your beliefs are. I definitely spent a lot of time. I think that's why I'm so
grateful we just both took December to be because I just heard the Lord so clearly. Honestly,
starting December off with that mission trip and having my friends and you just pouring into me
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of just different things that I've learned over the last year. I believe in resolutions 100% as
long as the motive is healthy. The resolution, I don't love that word. I think it needs to be like,
what's your prayer for this year? What's your vision for this year? Where do you want it to go?
Because the thing is, the other side of it is you just kind of fall into a new year. Nothing
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changes when the calendar year changes. We can say, oh, it's January one, 2025. It's like, well,
nothing, have you changed? We don't change that quickly. But I think just because the calendar
year has changed, it's you that has to do the work. It's you that has to show up to the workout
class. It's you that has to put your phone on do not disturb. It's you that has to turn your
lot. I think get enough sleep. So I think with resolutions, I would change that word into prayers
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and dreams and vision and goals. I wouldn't put a ton of pressure around it to have it done by
a certain date. But I would really put some emphasis on it around January. If you don't have it yet,
and then I'd write it down, put it up, tell you people and set some set some goals for yourself.
Because I think one of the worst things we can do as humans is just go about our day every day.
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And we're going to look up one day and be 50 years old and wonder where our life went.
What happened? What happened? Where did it go? What did I do? Was I okay? And I think
really doing some hard work and asking your people, hey, what areas do you think I could
work in? That's a really hard question to ask, but I think it's a really honest one.
Totally. I asked my friends the other day, when we were talking about my prayer and stuff, I was
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like, I know what kind of guy I want and the kind of guy I'm praying for, but what do you see?
That's great. What strengths and characteristics and qualities do you think that he needs to have?
And so I think it's just important to have conversations around that. So it's a really
long-winded answer. The summary of that is just, yeah, like put it out there. I love it. Be intentional.
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I love it. And I think too, like you said, this was your first year that you had a phrase,
expect a miracle with uncommon hope. And I think some people are like, I don't know my word for
the year. That's a big, how do I decide something for 12 months? That is hard. Yes. But also what
you've done in the past that encouraged me and I've talked about this multiple times is the word
of the month. And I think that's so cool. And I'm continuing that this year of just like, I want
to do a word every month because I do think resolution sometimes can feel huge. If it's like,
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I'm going to do this every single day. Like last year, I don't know if it was a resolution,
but it was like a desire. I wanted to read the Bible. I've never read through the whole Bible.
And so I started on a Bible reading plan and I did it. Yeah, girl. I was 31st. How do you?
And it was so cool. But it's like, then what? Then you just stop and I stopped reading my
Bible because I hit my goal. And it's like, no, how do I make it a habit?
Yes.
I can carry on to this year too. It's not just like a checklist of do it and done.
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And so I think what's helpful is breaking it up to saying, one, how is this something that I can
continually add into my life and make it part of who I am, not just a thing to say I did it.
Yeah.
And so I think that's important. And also I was going to share another journal I brought because
my sweet aunt, Aunt Lorraine, I love her so much, but she gave me a gift to the beginning of January.
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She said it was for birthday month, but she's told me about this podcast. It's called the
Next Right Thing and it's by Emily P. Freeman. So and I'll also link the journal.
I want to get that too. But yeah, the podcast is called the Next Right Thing and there is a
guided journal for it. And what it's really cool about this is it's what you said about how you
said I break things into Q1, Q2. I think breaking them into quarters or seasons,
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however you want to view it is so helpful. And what's cool about this journal is I don't always
love like a guided journal thing because I like to just journal what's on my heart.
Yeah.
But it has some intentional questions for looking ahead because I think something I've
noticed about myself is I'm good at looking back. I'm good at reflecting. I'm good at saying,
what did I learn from that? I'm going to read through these journals, but to take time and say,
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what am I looking ahead at? And so it'll say like, let me pull this up. Okay. So it'll have a look
ahead list for blank and it has whatever season. And so season, winter, or as you say, Q1. And it's
like travel. So then it helps me think, what are my upcoming travel? How can I budget for that?
Love.
What trips do I have? What deadlines do I have? What's going on in the family? And I'm like,
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oh, February, I have another niece. You know, and just like being aware of that, what celebrations
are coming up? I love this. Yes. Community. And so I think it's nice because again, it's like the
quarter vision board. It's the quarterly, seasonally, what's coming up. And then from that,
you take the next right step. What's the next right thing to get you there. And so
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I'm going to be interested. I've never done something like this. I've never had this journal
before. So I'm excited to use this alongside my regular journal. Yeah, I love that. And just kind
of have like a couple steps looking forward while also trying to be present in journal and
continually looking back and reflecting. I love the name of that because we always talk about this.
I see this a lot in my classes, like do the next right thing. I know, you know, it's constantly
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like, hey, it just, it disarms this pressure to like know what to do. Yes. And instead of trying
to look at the whole staircase and figure out how you're going to figure this out, it's like,
no, just take the next step. You don't have to know. You don't have to know. I feel like prompts
like that too are going to be so fruitful for you at the end of this year to look back. You know,
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I know you have to look back and I think that's a gift that you have and strength. And it's funny
too. I feel like people, I've struggled with dreaming big. It's, I think my friends can dream
really big for me. I think it's easy to dream big for your, for your friends. I think it's harder
to look at your life and go, what am I capable of? But I think that's something that really comes
with cool setting. Like we used to talk about this where we used to work the B.H. goal, the big
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Heria Decius goal. Like what is the big thing that you want? Also, is that something other people
say? Or was that just a Ramsey thing? I don't know. I say it a lot and I wonder, I wonder that too.
I think people talk about it, right? Surely. I think it's a Ramsey thing. It might be a Ramsey
thing. So anyways, guys, if you hear us say B.H. that's what that big Heria Decius goal,
like your big goal, not just like a goal, but like the big, big Heria Decius goal.
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I just remember when I first started working there, everybody casually used it. I feel like it's
like a, so maybe it's a business word, a business. If it's not, then we're just a bunch of weirdos
talking about Heria goals. But I just, I love that. And I love journaling. And I feel like if
you're taking anything away from this episode is to write it down because I think too, we have a
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really bad memory as humans. And we forget not only the things that God has done for us, but we
forget the things that we said we were going to do. One of my favorite things to say in class
is to say, do the thing that you said you'd do. And I always tell my classes, I'm really proud
of them because they showed up. And it's enough to show up, but then you get in the room and,
okay, now we got to work. Like, let's work. Like do the thing you said you do. Run hard on this run.
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Don't just, you know, give it half of your effort. Like give it everything that you have.
Yes. So I will literally tell my girls that in my life coaching sessions too. I think
one of the greatest ways to build confidence and ourselves, like when girls want to be more
confident is do what you say you're going to do. If I say I'm going to do this, then follow through.
It's like, then you just grow in this confidence of like, I know where I'm going. I know where I'm
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headed. I know what I'm doing. It builds our confidence. No, it totally does. And I think
that's again, when you're going into, I mean, we're already in the new year. So if you still are yet
to kind of figure out your goals, you feel like it's a blow one, it's not too late, but to like
make sure that their goals that you feel like you can follow through with. Because I think the
worst thing that could happen is you set these goals that again, don't align with your values or
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are kind of way out there. And then you're going to beat yourself and you're going to,
your confidence is going to go down. But if you can do the thing that you said you do and commit to
that, you're going to build your confidence, which is the whole point anyways, you know,
build your character. So I think that'll be great. So all this to say, like, there is not a right
way and a wrong way to do it. And I think that's what Kenzie and I hope as we're sharing this is
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just like there, you can do a vision board, you can journal, you can reflect, you can look forward,
you can pray, you can read your Bible, you can do whatever. And there's so many different ways.
And there's journals and there's prompts. And there are so many things of ways you can do this.
Again, there is not a right and a wrong. But I think the importance is just taking time to
reflect, set your intentions and don't let life just like pass by without the intentional time,
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whether it's with a group of friends, maybe sit down and you talk and you say, yeah, like,
Hey, is there anything you see in me that I can work on? Or maybe it is one on one, or maybe it's,
or maybe it's by yourself and with the Lord and just taking time to do that. But I just think
our hope and prayer for this podcast episode today specifically is just to encourage you to think,
reflect, share with us anything to message us on here on Instagram, wherever, and let us know what
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y'all do because there are so many things out there. And so anyways, we would just love to hear
what y'all do to love it. We'd love it. We just want to hear from you. So don't ever be afraid to
slide into the DMs. And just remember, even if last year was good, bad, or maybe not what you
expected, his mercies are new every morning. And it's a new day. Let's welcome 2025.
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