June 5, 2024 • 67 mins
Imagine realizing a hidden trait within yourself through your child's eyes. That's exactly what happened to Dan Ramsay, Major League Baseball scout and talent evaluator, who discovered his highly sensitive personality through his daughter's experiences. Tune in as Dan takes us on his transformative journey from professional baseball coaching to a more introspective path, fueled by the pandemic. He shares how this revelation reshaped his relationships and self-awareness, and how hosting a foreign exchange student from South Korea broadened his family's cultural perspectives.
Ever had a dream so vivid it felt prophetic? Join us as we explore the significance of dreams and their dual meanings, with Dan recounting his own profound experiences. From escaping volcanoes to encounters with great horned owls, every dream carried a unique message, guiding personal insights since childhood. We delve into the spiritual journey of connecting with nature and the practices that promote health and wellness, like gardening and self-sustainable living, emphasizing the importance of living a clean lifestyle free from modern additives.
What if trusting the process could lead to profound personal growth? Jeffrey and Dan reflect on their bond, underscoring the importance of vulnerability, genuine connections, and continuous personal growth. They discuss the impact of environmental factors like solar flares on health and the need to reconnect with nature. With heartfelt exchanges and compelling insights, this episode encourages embracing change, overcoming fear, and maintaining an open heart and mind on the journey to personal and spiritual enlightenment.
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Jeffrey Brunk (00:01):
Hi everyone and welcome back to another episode
of the Everyday Shaman.
My name's Jeff Brunk, your hostand my guest today is Dan
Ramsey.
Dan's a great guy with anamazing story of transformation
to tell, and he's currentlyemployed as a Major League
Baseball scout and talentevaluator, grading the on-field
ability of high school andcollege athletes, as well as
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evaluating their off-fieldcharacter traits.
Prior to his time inprofessional baseball, he worked
as the field manager in playerdevelopment with a different
professional organization.
So in other words, dan was aprofessional baseball coach
Before professional baseball.
Dan was the head baseball coachat a small Christian college
for nine years, while alsoserving as an adjunct instructor
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in the kinesiology department.
Dan earned a Master of Educationin Administrative Leadership
and during his undergraduatework, studied secondary
education with endorsements inkinesiology and English as a
second language.
Dan has long had a passion forother cultures, and English as a
second language was a greatavenue for him to learn and
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create relationships with thosewho might be different than
himself.
He knew within himself that hewanted to be able to work in a
profession that putrelationships at the forefront.
Dan has been happily marriedfor 13 years and has four
children two girls ages 8 and 11and two boys ages 6 and 4.
Oh, and let's not omit the twogolden retrievers.
So, basically, dan and his wifehave six children.
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He and his family live on asmall one-acre farm in the
beautiful Pacific Northwest andraise chickens, grow plums,
pears, apples, raspberries,blueberries and strawberries, as
well as cultivating as manyvegetables as they can in the
family's garden.
All of this seems like a lot,but it's just the tip of the
iceberg.
Like so many others, 2020 drewa line in the sand between the
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old Dan and the new Dan.
The global pandemic opened hiseyes to the corruption of evil
in our world and caused him toembark on a journey that has
enlightened him in ways he'dnever imagined, including
increased curiosity and thinkingfor himself, while gaining an
incredible amount of knowledge.
So welcome, dan, to the podcast.
Glad to have you here.
Dan Ramsay (02:12):
Awesome, jeff.
Thanks for having me.
Super excited to be here, sure.
Jeffrey Brunk (02:16):
You've got said tip of the iceberg.
There's so much to your storyoutside of baseball and I'm
really interested to hear moreabout how 2020, the pandemic it
changed so many people, openedso many people's eyes.
And it's especially great tohear that coming from a male,
and I've said this in my debutpodcast that it's not a common
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thing for men to come forwardand admit they started seeing
things in a new way.
It's a form of enlightenment Ina lot of ways.
People see that or hear thatword and they think new, agey
things and that's not the way itis and I know how it was for a
lot of others and I imagine itwas sort of the same way for you
.
Dan Ramsay (02:59):
Yeah, very, very much so and I think, as part of
that, maybe being male, being alittle more insecure about being
vulnerable with others, but forme it really started just prior
to 2020.
You know, you mentioned earlier, I have four children my oldest
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daughter, my oldest daughter.
We were having a reallydifficult time with her.
She was highly emotional,highly sensitive, struggling to
cope with many things that wedidn't think it didn't come
across as normal and we werestruggling for answers.
My wife and I, we came across aterm and I'm not big on labels
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but we came across a term calledthe highly sensitive
personality trait and, as we'veread about it, as we researched
it, a lot of what we werereading and I'm sure we've seen
a lot of them A lot of timesit's a hook to try to get you to
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give them an email address fora product or whatever it happens
to be.
But this quiz was a quiz aboutthe highly sensitive personality
trait and I sat down with myfive-year-old at the time and
asked her a lot of the questionsand some of them I had to
answer for her because shecouldn't really articulate it.
Her a lot of the questions andsome of them I had to answer for
her because she couldn't reallyarticulate it.
But I started to see thispattern of things where I
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thought this has got to be somesort of gimmick because I would
answer the same thing to justabout every one of these.
So I went to my mom, I calledmy mom and said Mom, I'm going
to run some questions by youreal quick and just curious what
you're going to answer.
And I gave my mom the same quizand it was a 20 question quiz
and it basically said that ifyou answer yes to more than nine
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of the questions, that youlikely have the highly sensitive
personality trait.
And, like I said, I think Ianswered 19 out of the 20 to yes
and I thought that'sinteresting.
My daughter was the same, butwhen I asked my mom she only
answered four of the 20.
Yes and it I was taken aback.
And then I went to my wife andI asked her the same questions
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and same thing.
I was dumbfounded.
I didn't realize that otherpeople weren't affected by
things the same way that I was,and this is, as a 35,
36-year-old man, learningsomething new about myself.
So, as I said, it kind of- itcame about in such an offhanded.
Jeffrey Brunk (05:34):
I mean, you're doing this for your daughter,
trying to figure this out, andthen you find something out
about yourself.
The way these things happensometimes is amazing, oh and
yeah.
Dan Ramsay (05:45):
So that was kind of what got the ball rolling to
this idea that maybe there wasmore to me than I knew, if that
makes sense.
You know, shortly after that mywife and I decided that we
wanted to bring a foreignexchange student into our home.
You mentioned earlier that Ihad a passion for other cultures
and my wife does as well.
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So the idea of bringing astudent from a different part of
the world into our home wasreally exciting.
We thought it would be good forour children.
So we had an exchange studentfrom South Korea.
She was awesome, we had a goodtime with her.
But I recognized really, reallyquickly that I had some pretty
unhealthy traits in regards topeople pleasing.
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I think when you're in your ownhome, under your own roof, you
kind of can be yourself, andthen when you have a stranger in
the home, we tend to sometimesmaybe put on a mask or act in a
certain way that we want othersto perceive us.
And I recognized really quicklywith a stranger in our home
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that I was being two verydifferent people in public
versus in private.
A lot of that centered aroundtrying to please others and it
became to the point where it wasquite unhealthy because I
wasn't taking care of myself andthis is something, jeff, you
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and I have talked about in thepast.
But the ability to retreat, todisappear when you might need to
, to seek out solitude in thosetimes where maybe the energies
are just a bit too high andreally all you need is some time
alone.
And this is still a challengeof mine.
I have four kids, so obviouslymy house is packed and there's
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also some shame and guiltinvolved when you just want to
say, hey, I'm out, guys, I needa break.
Honey, you can hang out withall four of them for a bit.
So always continuing challengesand obviously I feel like I've
experienced so much growth inthis process.
But kind of back to that story.
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I started to really dive intowho I was and kind of what made
me tick and started to realizethat I had some ugly traits.
I had some good traits and somepositive traits, but I had some
other things too that I neededto face and you know, that's
kind of how the process startedfor me.
I stumbled across themeditation and journeying and
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shamanism in a much differentway, but it all leads back to my
daughter, and it was actuallyhow I was introduced to you,
jeff.
You know we were struggling withher behavior and her
sensitivities and some of herhigh emotions and again I was
starting to uncover some of thisin myself.
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My mother-in-law she's a bit ofan esoteric thinker I guess you
could call her that but I meanshe does like remote healing and
muscle testing and some thingslike that, so she's more
open-minded.
She just reached out and saidhey, maybe you should try to
have somebody do a shamanicjourney on your daughter's
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behalf, and the man sherecommended was you.
So I emailed you.
Yeah, yeah, I emailed you.
Jeffrey Brunk (09:15):
Curiously.
How did she find me?
Dan Ramsay (09:18):
You know what I have no idea, I have no idea, but
obviously it was divine.
So, yeah, I reached out to you,you did a journey on her behalf
and I was it was.
I didn't even know what ashamanic journey was.
Honestly, it was right aroundthe time that there was like the
January 6th capital deal andthere was a shaman on TV who had
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like US flag.
So it was the first time I'dever even heard the term before.
I hated that.
I hated that.
I do now.
Jeffrey Brunk (09:51):
You know, like you, I'm not big on labels and
when it was my editor when I waswriting my memoir that wanted
to call the book the everydayshaman and I didn't want to call
myself a shaman.
I think it's a very reveredprofession and there's a history
to it.
Just like I eschew titles, Idon't want to be called a Reiki
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master.
It's an ego thing to me.
Dan Ramsay (10:19):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, I agree.
Jeffrey Brunk (10:21):
Yeah, but it's at the same time what people
search for when they're lookingfor help.
So, yeah, I'd really beinterested to know how, how she
found me across country likethat.
But yeah, yeah, I've had otherpeople and actually stories
across borders because she'sCanadian.
Dan Ramsay (10:38):
So, oh, wow, yeah, yeah.
So she, she found a tie and weneeded it at the time and I
needed it.
I was amazingly fascinated byyour time and I needed it.
I was amazingly fascinated byyour response and what you
shared and I, shortly after that, had asked you to do a journey
on my behalf because I hadexperienced some things and some
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dreams that I couldn't quitemake sense of and I thought
maybe your insight in the spiritrealm would help that.
And what you came back to mewith was I mean, to this day,
there's no way.
There's no way you could haveknown.
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The landscape that you enteredwhen you went into your journey
was the landscape that I've hadreoccurring dreams about from
the time I was 10 years old andyou described it to a T and it
just blew my mind Like it was.
I mean I, this was a, areoccurring dream.
I've had most of my life alonga beach with a rock pier going
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out into the ocean and it's.
It's a spooky dream for me, butit's happened multiple,
multiple times and you journeyedon my behalf and you described
that place to me and it just.
It was one of those momentswhere they say like you become a
believer in something, if youwant to put it that way, it was
just like man.
There is absolutely somethingto this, because that man, this
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stranger, could not have knownthat about me.
And then to take it evenfurther, you know, as you
encountered some animals andsome different things in that
dream, they very much resonatedwith me and what I was going
through and experiencing at thattime.
So, yeah, but at the end of theday, it was all confirmation
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that I was on this path.
It wasn't necessarily by achoice, but I'm so incredibly
grateful and happy to be on it.
Jeffrey Brunk (12:39):
Well, I appreciate you sharing that with
me.
I don't have many people thatshare with me things like that.
It's like sometimes I ask mywife you know it'd be nice to
get some validation, you knowsometimes because I don't know,
from a lot of times.
So it's nice to hear that.
So I appreciate you sharing.
And this all happened after youhad done the test.
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You know you had first with youwith your daughter doing the
test, and so you were alreadyopening up your, your insights
to yourself.
How long had the dreams?
I mean, have you always hadreally vivid dreams and or
prophetic dreams or whatever?
Yeah, you know, it's.
It's pretty fascinatingactually, or prophetic dreams or
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whatever.
Dan Ramsay (13:24):
Um, how did that lead you?
You know it's.
It's pretty fascinatingactually.
Like, uh, dreams have alwaysbeen a very significant part of
my life.
I mean dating back to as longas I can remember.
I mean I remember waking up inthe morning and recalling dreams
with my dad almost daily, wherethey started to kind of get
interesting.
Interesting is interesting is,I mean, some of the earliest
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ones.
I had, like I said, thesereoccurring dreams, where I had
one where I was basicallyrunning from a volcano and my
only escape was this rock pierout into the ocean, and it
reoccurred many, many times inmy life.
I've had reoccurring dreamswhere I'm in a different time
period, but they don't I've kindof talked about this before
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they don't necessarily, theydon't feel like a normal dream.
It's almost an experience Likeyou're living in a story, yeah,
like I'm living in a story andI'm.
I can feel what the charactersare feeling and it feels like
I'm there, but I don't really.
It just there's no connectionto it.
And then you know back in it'sbeen 10 years now 2014, I lost a
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dear friend of mine in a planecrash.
It was, it was prominent news,it was all over ESPN.
He was the assistant scoutingor the assistant athletic
director at Illinois StateUniversity and he died after the
final four in a plane, aprivate plane crash.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, just a dear friend ofmine.
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And about a month after hisdeath I dreamt that I met him in
a cafe and he talked to me fora long, long time and I woke up
from that dream and I wroteeverything down that we had
discussed.
But he said some things thatjust didn't make sense to me.
He talked to me about enjoyingmirror.
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He said you're going to reallyenjoy mirror.
And I didn't know what thatmeant and I wrote that in my
notes on my phone.
Like I don't know what thatmeant, and I wrote that in my
notes on my phone, like I don'tknow what that means.
And three months later a closefriend of ours contacted me and
said hey, let's go hike CampRainier, we're going to go Mount
Rainier, we're going to hike upto base camp.
And I said cool.
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And we got up to base camp andit was named after John Muir and
we went to Camp Muir andthere's no way that I could have
known.
I didn't even know what thatwas.
I didn't know what that evenexisted, so.
Jeffrey Brunk (15:56):
Do you research the dreams after you have them?
Dan Ramsay (15:59):
You know, I hadn't at that point, but I started to.
You know, the most prominentdream I had and I honestly, I
kind of I say this is the onethat was the awakening dream,
the one that really got me wasit was 2019.
I was summoned by a greathorned owl in my sleep and it
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spooked the daylights out of me.
I mean to the point where Ididn't sleep for a couple of
days following it because itjust felt so real.
And in that dream, I let the, Ilet the owl.
It was in my hotel room.
It was in my hotel room justterrorizing me, and I let it out
and it flew out and I watchedit fly into the pine trees, me,
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and I let it out and it flew outand I watched it fly into the
pine trees.
And immediately after that Ijust felt the need to research
it.
And this is kind of, I think,where this whole path started
for me.
But the more I dug, it was likeyou know, google, right, like I
don't use Google anymore.
I used to use Google, butanyway, google.
Like, hey, what does an owldream mean?
And it's like well, nativeAmericans think it means death
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and this culture thinks it meanswisdom and darkness, and it was
just like I kind of foundmyself gravitating toward what I
wanted to hear, you know, likeoh, that's a positive thing,
I'll just stick to that.
It means a good thing, or itmeans the death of this or
whatever it happens to be, and Ikind of didn't think much of it
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.
I kind of wrote it off.
I joked about it with a fewfriends, a few family members.
My dad jokingly said that itmight be your grandma Theta
spirit, and maybe, maybe it was.
Jeffrey Brunk (17:40):
But Well, those dream, dream interpretations,
you know I after I do, you knowafter I after I do a shamanic
journey and I write up a summaryand I make it as detailed as
possible and I ask that therecipient read it, reread it,
reread it again.
Let things resonate.
Research, research, research.
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You know colors, animals,anything in there that led to
research, and let thingsresonate.
And animals like any sign.
They have flip sides to them asfar as meanings go.
So they'll have a positiveattribute and a negative
attribute.
So it's letting.
Google is terrible about thisbecause I know how, you know
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what you mean, you know you goand you want to go to the best
meaning possible.
You know, oh, this, this mustbe great.
Or if it's a, if it's an animalor a color or a dream about
death, it's automatically fearthat's instilled as all that's
that's horrible, I'm going todie, and that's not necessarily
the case.
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But in your dreams you weighboth and look at, okay, what was
the rest of the dream about?
Or if, during your daylighthours seeing an owl, okay, what
was going on when I saw the owl,what was I thinking about?
It's messages?
You're given messages throughanimals, through your dreams.
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Apparently, you get a lotthrough dreams.
I don't.
Most you're in.
You're ending up in a in a hootowl's nest, in a barn in the
middle of the Pleiadian councilor something like that.
Dan Ramsay (19:30):
Hey, I've been.
I've been to many of those, sothat's okay.
Jeffrey Brunk (19:34):
In the younger days.
Dan Ramsay (19:35):
I mean, you kind of say it, you say it perfect, like
it started as a dream and thenthey started to manifest in my
natural world.
You know, I'd know I'd be outon a hike and I'd see an owl,
and I'd go oh man, I'm not usedto seeing owls, that's cool.
I'd snap a picture.
Or I'd wake up at four o'clockin the morning and look out the
window and there'd be onesilhouetted on our, our fence.
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And or they wake me up talkingto me in the middle of mesa,
arizona, or tucson, arizona,when I'm sitting in a hotel room
.
And it's just kind of gotten tothe point now where I've just
accepted that it's a guide and ahelper and something, a
reminder that I'm not alone inthis.
Jeffrey Brunk (20:16):
So that's what I was going to say.
It's a reminder when you needit, and it's usually exactly
when you need it is when thesetype things happen, or they
appear, or you'll hear them yeah, no doubt.
Dan Ramsay (20:30):
Well, and, as you can imagine, like it's funny
looking back at it now.
It's funny at the time it wasdevastating because I thought I
was losing my mind.
You know, I thought I wasabsolutely losing my mind that I
was having this experience andthat if I brought it up to
people they thought I was awhack job.
So I just kind of kept quietabout it and just kind of went
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along my way and you know,coming to find out it was a huge
gift.
Jeffrey Brunk (20:56):
So yeah, and being you know to score a 19 out
of a 20 on a test like that,which I don't know how they
quantify that, but still that'sdoggone high to be in the traits
of being sensitive like that.
They tend to run withinfamilies.
So to be sensitive like thatit's you.
You can't help but notice thesethings come up and, unlike a
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lot of people, you take noticeand heed the sight or the sound
and think this means somethinginstead of just looking at it as
being a coincidence.
Dan Ramsay (21:33):
Yeah, no doubt.
Yeah, there's no morecoincidences.
I used to think there were, Iused to think there were.
Like I mean, you know, Jeff,you reached out last Saturday
and just said, hey, I'm reallykind of feeling a push and a
call to, to get this thingrolling.
And I didn't share it with you,but I've been, I've felt the
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exact same way, you know.
So to hear that and have thatconfirmation or that
synchronicity or thatcoincidence that we were both
kind of feeling that nudge ishow I kind of follow truth, you
know that's.
It just feels right.
Jeffrey Brunk (22:11):
So yeah, and I don't think I mentioned to you
that when I was reaching out topeople and I mentioned to you
about the other person that Iused to work with at
organization media organizationthe day I reached out to her,
she had her phone in her handreaching out to me at the same
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time.
My message came through andshe's never reached out to me.
I mean, we're Facebook friendsand all this, but she's never
messaged me about things and forher to do that, I've had that
happen so many times, even withtrying to get people interested
in the podcast or peoplecontacting me.
Everyone hears about thestories of oh, I picked my phone
(22:52):
up to call you right before youknow you called me and that's
not a coincidence.
There's a reason and we don'talways know what the reasoning
is.
It's like for the podcast forme.
I don't know what the end gameis for it, but I know there's an
urgency behind it to reachpeople like yourself who haven't
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actually people that haven'tcome as far as you have, and a
lot of them being younger 20s,20s and as young as your
daughter.
Hey, they're misunderstood andit's frightening for them.
Dan Ramsay (23:31):
Yeah, well, it scared the dickens out of me.
I needed somebody normal likeme to be able to share about
these things, and I hate to sayit in that regard, but I think
you know what I mean when Inever had anybody to lean on in
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this whole process.
I still don't feel that way attimes.
I'm fortunate, Like I mentioned, my mother-in-law earlier.
I'm fortunate that she raisedher daughter, because when I
brought a lot of this to my wife, you know, I think a lot of
times when people go upon thispath and I know you and I have
discussed this they tend to losea lot of their loved ones, they
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lose a lot of friends and theylose a lot of family because of
how they're perceived andbecause my wife was raised with
a mom who was more open-mindedand more of an open thinker, I
think my wife valued thosetraits.
So when I brought these thingsto her, my wife valued those
traits.
Um, so when I brought thesethings to her, she didn't see
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them in a negative light and Ijust I feel incredibly fortunate
.
Um, you know, these are a lotof what I'm discussing with you
and I shared this like beingvery vulnerable here, Like I
haven't had a lot of theseconversations with some of the
people closest to me in my life.
Um, for that fear, um, for thefear of of losing them, but I'm
being vulnerable now.
So here we are.
Jeffrey Brunk (24:58):
I looked at it and I understand that fear and I
think it's absolutely necessaryto have at least one person
that understands and I'm curiousabout with your wife as far as
people are afraid or they, Idon't.
It's not a believing in what'sunseen, but it's when you start
talking about things that areunseen and you know on whether
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it's on this realm, which I callthe now, or the upper realms,
lower realms, wherever it may be.
Dan Ramsay (25:28):
So she's open to understanding that or, having a
con, she's not justautomatically blocking it out
yeah, no 100 and and, like Isaid, I think it's because I
mean it's, it's, it'sfascinating really, but just
some of the stories I can sharewith my mother-in-law.
Like when I first met mymother-in-law and I hope kathy
(25:49):
listens to this podcast but whenI first met her I thought she
was batshit crazy.
I just did, I just thought shewas nuts.
Um, I mean she was.
She was doing some testing onus to make sure that certain
supplements would be okay for usand she was balancing her hands
and I just thought it wasinsane.
But I went along with it becauseI love my wife and you know.
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But I went along with it becauseI love my wife and you know,
over time, like I was the crazyone for not seeing it and not
recognizing it for what it was,because I mean you had to be
ready wizard, like man.
That guy's a wizard, he's gotsome, he's got some magic to him
, like my mother-in-law is thatway and she's she's fascinating
and what she's able to uncoverand what she's able to help with
, and I mean she's a healer,she's a light worker, I mean
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whatever you want to call it.
Like she's it and and I seethat now, but my wife's known it
and seen it all along.
So I think when I brought someof these things to her, this
different way of thinking this,that in many, many ways was like
completely opposite of whatboth of us grew up seeing and
believing most of our lives.
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She was open to it and, youknow, fortunately I've been able
to maintain a connection to myfaith.
If you want to call it faith,you know I like to call it a
knowing.
Jeffrey Brunk (27:15):
Now, that's what I call it.
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Ramsay (27:19):
But it's, you know, it's just this.
I have this knowing andunderstanding that a lot was
manipulated.
You know, there is many, manytruths and I was brought up in
many, many truths but there wasa lot that was manipulated and
changed.
And I think when I learned that, when I learned that, it really
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flipped the script for mebecause you know, I was, I read
the Bible from cover to cover in2018, every single day and I
journaled on what I read everysingle day.
And then, in 2020, I learnedthat the Bible was canonized by
the Roman Catholic church and itwas edited many, many times
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prior to that and after that,and it was just like I started
to just thirst for thisknowledge of what was hidden and
I wanted to know why it washidden.
And I don't know it all and Istill don't, and, but I'm sure,
interested in finding out.
So I'm just going to keepdigging and keep following my
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curiosities.
Jeffrey Brunk (28:23):
So well, you know where I stand on this.
I mean, I grew up in the churchtoo.
Dan Ramsay (28:29):
Yeah.
Jeffrey Brunk (28:30):
And I searched and searched and I always
wondered why people came out allhappy and happy and, oh well,
they've given their life toJesus and so their sins are
forgiven.
And I remember for years andyears I mean since I was a small
kid trying to get that feelingthat I saw on the faces of
people coming out of the church,and years later I started
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seeing a lot of the hypocrisybehind it.
It wasn't okay, they're happy.
There was a mask in church.
You look at the actualceremonial things or the rituals
in church.
It's basically a show, butbehind the curtain and scenes
it's not pretty and I was partof that, just trying to find
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that same thing and watching thepeople sitting in the pews
reciting the Lord's prayer, butdoing it as Father in heaven.
It's just sort of going throughthe motions.
And with what I do and withwhat the things that you do, you
know how important intention is.
And so focused intention is is.
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It doesn't matter if you'rehealing with singing bowls or
Reiki or shamanic work orwhatever it may be, or just
sitting in church and prayingfor someone.
If your intention is focused,you get results.
Dan Ramsay (29:55):
You are so spot on man.
Jeffrey Brunk (29:57):
That's awesome and it's setting everything else
about yourself aside Say you'repraying, or if I'm working for
someone else on their behalf,setting all of that aside for
however long it is for, say, ashamanic journey or a Reiki
session or still human, it comesback.
Still have to live in thisworld, but setting it aside.
(30:18):
But to watch the people inchurch just kind of go through
the motions and for me it waswatching the first 20 minutes of
every church service beingabout the financials.
And then going to the plate.
Before anything else, beforethe first hymn.
It was so eye-opening and Iknow there are good people that
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are very spiritual, that go tochurch and I'm not going off on
that.
But there's so much too, likeso many that wear those masks
and that go home after churchand just kick back and play
bunko and get drunk and you know.
But they've done their duty,they've gone to church for an
hour or two and Right, well, andI think their new dresses and
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suits and I think I'll I'll.
Dan Ramsay (31:06):
I'll leave a couple of comments here and I think it
kind of ties back to whereyou're at with everything, I
think.
First I was fortunate I had afather.
My dad was a man who he talkedabout faith in a manner of
relationship.
It was all to him it was aboutrelationship and he lived that
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out and to him, you know, goingto church made him a Christian
just as much as standing in agarage made him a car.
You know, that was just kind ofhow my dad operated.
So I was fortunate to have that.
But on the flip side of that Ihad a very spiritually devout
mother who you know, believedthat angels entered the room
when someone was dying and shecould see him and hear him
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singing.
So I kind of had some differentperspectives there.
In regards to the quote unquotechurch, you know I have a.
Really, even though I grew uplike this on the surface I look
like this just, you know, whitecountry boy, because that's how
I grew up on a wheat ranch andcattle farm.
Like that's what I look like onthe surface, but like I have
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some pretty fascinating diversebackground experiences, whether
that be in the DominicanRepublic with voodoo or that be
in the hypocrite Catholic church.
When I went to my first coupleof years of college because I
went to a Jesuit school myfather his entire side of the
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family is LDS or Mormon, so Ihave a lot of different
perspectives.
My very best friend in life isNative American.
He's a Spokane tribe.
So for me, I've had thesewonderful experiences.
I've sat in a sweat lodge inthe Lakota tradition experiences
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I've sat in a sweat lodge inthe Lakota tradition.
I've had these wonderfulexperiences that have allowed me
to see that all of thesedifferent spiritual practices
are an avenue to connect to ourCreator and to recognize common
ground in that and to not fallfor the divide and conquer that
is thrown at us in every way,shape and form bunker that is
thrown at us in every way, shapeand form.
Jeffrey Brunk (33:16):
That's a great way to look at it, and it's the
best way to look at it, becauseit's no matter the religion or
the ceremonial aspects of it atthe heart of it all is the
divine.
Whether it's Native AmericanChristian, whether it's Islam,
there is a central aspect ofeverything, and to see the
division that's caused by ohwell, you're not Christian,
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you're going to hell, or youknow Native Americans, look at
the world.
The earth is their church.
Dan Ramsay (33:42):
That's the way I look at it.
Jeffrey Brunk (33:43):
The link outside.
Dan Ramsay (33:44):
That's my church there's so much I love about it
and here and, yeah, I resonate.
Jeffrey Brunk (33:49):
Native American traditions resonate very, very
strongly with me.
But the underlying tenets andas far as organized religion
goes, that is where, like you,were mentioning the Bible and
the many times it's been edited.
There's a reason for that and Ithink you'll agree control
power and money and power andmoney.
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And if you look at even today,if you look at it, everything
that's said coming from apolitician is either based in
the first half of the Bible,which is the Torah, or the
vengeful God, the wrathful God,or it's revelation.
So the red words that Yeshua,as he's presented himself to me,
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spoke, they're overlooked.
The acceptance, the love whichI love to me is a four-letter
word, because you can love pizza, you can love people, you can
love a car, you can loveanything.
Acceptance is a better term forit.
But that's all overlooked.
It's more of going straight tosay Isaiah or something from the
first half of the book, the OldTestament, and then capping the
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whole book off with pure fearmongering.
Even though it wasn't writtento be taken literally, it does
instill fear in so many people.
So to take the New Testament,which is so much you know, it's
the flip side of the OldTestament, but end it back on an
Old Testament note, so to speak.
Dan Ramsay (35:18):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know what it comes back to
for me.
Is this?
Simply, if we're going to takethe story of Christ, is the Son
of God right?
If we're going to take thatstory?
I'm a father, I have children,I know what it means to love,
and if my creator loves me likeI love my children, there's no
way I could ever condemn them tohell.
(35:40):
So that's just.
That's where it comes back tofor me.
Jeffrey Brunk (35:45):
Yeah, I believe that creator lives right inside
of each of us.
Dan Ramsay (35:49):
Oh, there is no question.
Yep, there is no question, I'mright there with you.
Oh, there is no question.
Yeah, there is no question, I'mright there with you.
Jeffrey Brunk (35:56):
We're on the same page.
I've even read where Yeshua wasconsidered a shaman in his time
.
Dan Ramsay (36:05):
And a lot of what he did was left out of the New
Testament.
I'm actually digging in on thatstuff right now.
I'm reading about the lostyears of Jesus and it's so
fascinating and it makes so muchsense and I have so many
synchronicities or coincidenceswhere this idea of Jesus as
shaman or Yeshua as medicine manor witch doctor or whatever you
(36:27):
want to call it, you called mea witch doctor.
Jeffrey Brunk (36:31):
Hey, you're a wizard, whatever you want to
call it.
Dan Ramsay (36:34):
Like I said, it's to me it's all in the same.
I mean it's.
We're healers, you know.
Jeffrey Brunk (36:41):
and Christ says that I think it was in John Like
he says we're going to dogreater things than him, and I
think there is a time comingsoon where we're going to have
to and I believe that's part ofthe reason you are emerging very
quickly now and so many youngerpeople are, and for my doing
(37:02):
this because I am not one tolike to speak and have my photo
taken even so to step outsidecomfort zones.
I step big, big time out of mycomfort zone writing my book
because I thought the same thing.
People are going to think I'mnuts.
This is not the Jeff of old.
You know where's that, that guy, you know totally different.
(37:23):
It's like I told you.
I didn't become pious by anystretch of the imagination, but
everything sort of shifted inperspective for me and I believe
you, the the same has happenedfor you.
It's like you were saying a lotof your interests had changed
and things that seemed to beimportant or you thought were
(37:45):
worth pursuing suddenly justweren't.
Dan Ramsay (37:48):
Yeah, so much.
So, yeah, it's a smack in theface really, I think, just kind
of.
What it comes back to is is youstart to value things in a much
different way.
You know, like I value myhealth so much differently now
than I used to and I just see itin such a different perspective
.
I was thinking about this as Iwas going on to the podcast,
(38:13):
like I would have never imaginedI'd been on a podcast like this
not in my entire life, you know.
I just never.
I'm so happy to be because it'sit feels like this is what's
worth pursuing.
You know, and I have no ideahow I'm ever going to make money
doing this and I'll probablyhave to continue to find a way
to survive in the regular world.
(38:35):
But man, this is like it's allI.
Jeffrey Brunk (38:39):
I'm just so fascinated by it and I'm so
interested in it and it's, butyou have so much you have the
trust, you know, you know thedifference between trusting and
wanting and or needing andwanting, trusting and wanting
and or needing and wanting, andthat what you need will come to
you one way or another.
(38:59):
You have that trust and thatstems, I think, from both your
faith, from your lifetime andwhat you know, the knowings that
you have now, yeah, and but itdoesn't ease the anxiety, not
anxiety necessarily, but theconcerns about how I can't do
this full time.
But maybe you can.
(39:20):
You just never how things playout.
We don't know.
I wish I journeyed and asked adirect question, I'd get a
direct answer.
But they don't work that way.
I mean either way, and it makessense, because if they gave
direct answers, if we kneweverything, then what's the
point?
But you never know where tolead you.
(39:40):
Now, when you started doing thefarming they're doing, you know
, growing the vegetables, doingthe gardening was this after all
of this had happened, or youhad?
You've been doing that before,so you know, yeah, great, great
question.
Dan Ramsay (39:53):
So in 2019, like November 2019, I don't know why
this is, but I was alwaysfascinated by, like quote
unquote, conspiracy theories,but I never really delved into
them too much, but I rememberreading one, like in 2015.
I used to get up in the morning, I'd get on Yahoo and I'd go
(40:16):
look at like conspiracy theorieson Yahoo and I remember reading
one that said the world wasgoing to be masked.
And I remember reading that,thinking to myself yeah right,
there's no way in heck anyonewould ever go along with that.
And I just remember brushing itoff.
Heck anyone would ever go alongwith that.
(40:37):
And I just remember brushing itoff.
And then, when covet hit andthey started to institute that
stuff, I I just I remember itlike it was, like I just just
read it and I thought, oh, mygoodness, what's going on here?
And I started worrying aboutWorld War III and the end of the
world and I fell down all thosetough rabbit holes where I fell
(41:00):
for the fear right, the fearporn, I guess you'd call it and
I thought you know what I've gotto learn to be self-sustainable
.
So I planted carrots in mybackyard that was the extent of
it and I'd read a meme somewherethat said if you want to show
your children a miracle, plant agarden.
And I thought that was kind ofcool.
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I thought the idea of that wascool.
So I planted carrots and lo andbehold, when they all grew and
I pulled them out of the ground,I was amazed by it.
I saw the miracle.
I ate them after I washed themand they were the best tasting
carrots I'd ever had.
And I, the next day, Icompletely cut up half of our
(41:41):
quarter acre lot and put in fourplanter boxes, without my
wife's permission.
The next year we hadraspberries and cucumbers and
zucchinis and carrots and.
I'd never done anything.
It was just a completeexperiment.
I didn't know what I was doing,it was just me fooling around
(42:02):
with it.
And then a year later we soldour beautiful brand new home in
a cookie cutter neighborhoodwith a quarter acre lot.
In my little tiny garden, wereyou on a cul-de-sac.
We wanted to be but we weren't.
But we were right next to apark and we sold that and we
(42:25):
bought a 1950s farmhouse on oneacre.
That has been nothing butheadaches in regards to the work
it's caused, but I've learnedso much we went from hiding one
chicken because, um, because ofour HOA, to now we have 20 of
them.
Um, you know, we feed our kidshealthy food.
They're connected to wheretheir food comes from.
Um, and I think, honestly, Ithink that's so essential when
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it comes to our health and whenwe want to be spiritually
connected, because it is a mind,body, soul thing, when we want
to be spiritually connected,because it is a mind, body, soul
thing.
It's a native american thing too.
It is 100, and so beingconnected to our food is is a
priority for my wife and I whenit comes to raising our kids.
Um, you know, we are fortunateto live in a place where our
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water is clean.
Um, it's free of fluoride,which we're thankful for.
We're fortunate to live in aplace where we can still
purchase raw milk.
So being able to go to thegrocery store and purchase raw
milk and then drive 45 minutesand show my kids the dairy farm
where it came from, I thinkthere's something really
important in that, and I want tomake sure that those are
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traditions and those don't diewith my generation, because in a
lot of places they already have.
Oh yeah absolutely.
Jeffrey Brunk (43:43):
You know, money drives everything and
unfortunately, because Iremember when we were traveling
around the country, goingthrough I believe it was Texas,
and just seeing the cattle yardsand the small calves that had
been, you know, I said there'sthe veal and there's the beef
and just it was almost broughttears to my wife's eyes, but it
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was just so disheartening.
But to do things the old way Iknow I have friends here that do
that, not just with food butwith building different types of
shelters, or they use the oldtools and that's the way they
live, I think it's so cool.
Dan Ramsay (44:25):
I think it's so cool I don't know that I'm quite
ready to go full blownhomesteading.
I'll be honest.
I've jokingly said I think theAmish have it figured out, but
one of these days we might makethat move.
(44:45):
I don't know.
I have this little itch, thislittle desire to do a retreat
center someday in Costa Rica orsomething.
But I'm sure there's a lot ofother people with that pipe
dream.
So we're going to start wherewe are for now.
Jeffrey Brunk (44:55):
You had mentioned wanting to be because you've
gone through the first twolevels of your Reiki training.
Yeah, yeah, I got myattunements in Reiki one and two
, so and mentioned possiblywanting to do a retreat or not
do one, but to actually open one.
Dan Ramsay (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be fun.
I or not do one, but toactually open one, yeah, yeah, I
think it'd be fun.
I feel a call to that.
I mean, I think my greatestcall at this point in life is I
just I want to help peoplereconnect to nature because I
think it's so incrediblyimportant for our emotional,
physical, spiritual, socialhealth.
(45:32):
We need to be connected tonature and I've learned that
just through experimentation.
Like I said, you know I washaving, I've had so many
injuries in my body throughoutthe years that you know, even
though I'm still rather young asa 38 year old, I feel like I'm
60.
So I've, you know, groundingand trying to wait a minute.
Jeffrey Brunk (45:54):
I'm 60.
What does that mean?
Dan Ramsay (45:55):
No, no, I didn't mean that.
Age is just a number.
Jeffrey Brunk (46:01):
So that's right, I'm 16 on the inside.
There you go.
No, it's um.
You know the oh, where was Igoing to retreat?
That's one of the reasons whenwe, when we were traveling the
country I believe I mentionedthat my wife had always,
everywhere we stopped, we went24 states and every time we went
across state lines she was onZillow, looking, looking,
(46:23):
because we had lived in Virginiaand she had lived in Virginia
for over 30 years and I was alittle under 30 years.
I didn't want to come back toVirginia and I didn't want to go
to North Carolina.
I grew up there and I thought,okay, been there, done that.
And I believe it was Californiawhere this house kept showing up
, the one that we ended upbuying sight unseen on a
Thanksgiving day in Biloxi,mississippi, and it had it
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checked all the boxes and, oddlyenough, tying into the dreams,
two or so years before we'd eventraveled, we'd each had a dream
not in consecutive nights orthe same night about this house
in this land.
I had one about the land bridgeit goes over a creek, driving
over that, and she had one,because we live on a cliff, it's
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over a river.
She had dreams about that andthis is the exact house and it's
on Native American land, theMonacans, and it's nearby where
what's called Point of Fork,where the Cherokee and the
Seminole and Iroquois and allthese.
There were ceremonies held halfa mile from where we are, I
believe on the land where we are.
(47:29):
Don't know exactly what theceremonies were, but we were
drawn here and my wife has thisgift of the land calling to her,
and it's not the first timeit's done that You're sort of
taken to where you need to be,when you need to be there, sort
of like getting the signs, andthen when it's time to move on,
you know it.
Dan Ramsay (47:48):
Yeah, it's like we say it's coincidence, right?
Jeffrey Brunk (47:52):
Yeah, we're looking to make this place a
retreat, slash, refuge as welland for me to teach, and I don't
want big groups, I don't wantbig circular groups of people
sitting around and trying toteach generic things.
I want it to be more of aindividually focused type
teaching session, becauseeverybody's needs are different,
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everybody's further along ontheir pathway or further behind
and they need somethingdifferent.
So going over a lot of basicsis really just kind of skimming
the surface.
So I want to keep it small andstill be able to have people
comfortable, because we don'thave a big place but it's very
doable.
And what would make it such agreat thing for you is having it
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in your head that that's whatyou want and the knowing of what
you have to offer, because alot of people they kind of know
who they are, in a way theythink, but what they have to
offer they're not so sure of.
Dan Ramsay (48:53):
Right.
Jeffrey Brunk (48:54):
And so you're a rarity In a lot of ways.
You're even more so a raritybecause you're a guy who is
doing these.
You know that is doing thesethings and experiencing these
things and admitting them, andthat is and I think I told you
hundreds of people I've workedwith across the world.
Two hands I could count.
(49:15):
And out of those 10 fingers,not even five of them came to me
willingly on their own.
They were pushed or prodded bya spouse or significant other
and they weren't open really toreceiving.
And so some I could work for,some I couldn't, most I couldn't
because they were too proud.
(49:36):
Yeah, gotta be strong.
Dan Ramsay (49:38):
You know that'd have been me, probably pre 2019, for
sure.
Either that or just scared ofit, so yeah.
Jeffrey Brunk (49:48):
Yeah, the scary part is is when you start
recognizing the things aboutyourself and accepting them and
it starts changing you.
It's scary.
Change is scary for everybody.
But to change as a person andstart questioning everything you
thought you knew about yourselfand the world and what it's
(50:10):
taught you, and looking at itdifferently and seeing it for
what it is, as opposed to whatyou've always considered it to
be, even if it was considered atall at the time.
Dan Ramsay (50:19):
Right.
Jeffrey Brunk (50:20):
It's a scary thing and on the flip side of
that you have sort of aknowledge that it's going to be
all right.
You know, when you accept thattruth about yourself, it really
sort of settles you.
Dan Ramsay (50:36):
It does.
Yeah, I mean I can't, I can'teven begin to worry.
Wart is like the, what I usedto get called.
I mean I, I feared everythingmy whole life, my entire life.
I mean up until I was 35, 36years old, up until I started to
have these experiences.
It was, you know.
(50:57):
My parents are coming to pickmy kids up, to take them out to
their house, and I'm thinkingabout the car accident they're
going to be on the way out totheir place.
Like that was just how Ioperated and it just was so
unhealthy and I never even Ididn't even recognize that about
myself until I've kind of madethe shift.
And now, when I and again, I'mnot perfect, so when I find
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those thoughts starting to popup into my head or whatever,
it's a little easier for me togo whoa, where's that coming
from?
This ain't me.
And having to look at it,recognize it, yeah for sure.
Jeffrey Brunk (51:33):
That's very important, that you recognize it
and you stop it and then yousee it for what it is and I say
you embrace it.
I call it the shadow.
The darker parts and you embracethem and you use them to face
the even darker things that maycome your way.
Because these fears, I callthem what ifs and when we first
(51:55):
moved in here I had you know.
We're down in the woods on acliff, quarter mile driveway
surrounded in the forest, and Ihad the what ifs.
It petrified me to think a treeis going to fall across the
driveway.
How are we going to get out?
We're 30 minutes in anydirection from a supermarket or
anything, you know, and I wasparalyzed by it.
(52:17):
I was brain extremely tiredbecause it was a whirlwind trip
around the country and we movedin here and right after we moved
in COVID struck and thequarantines started.
So the timing was notcoincidental.
We got in here when we did, butit still was scary.
And not long after thequarantine started is when I
(52:37):
started getting the and I wasn'treally advertising.
I don't advertise myself, youknow it's like I know people
will come and find me somehow.
I had business cards made.
I didn't.
I never give them out.
My wife did, but it wasn'tCOVID that people were
contacting me about.
None of them had COVID.
It was emotional and stressful.
(53:00):
It was like they were startingto without everything going on,
without all the chaos and staticof life, going to work and
sitting in traffic, whatever itmay be.
They were starting to hearthose little whispers that are
always there.
Instead of hearing the outsideworld coming at them, they were
hearing the inside voices and itscared the crap out of them and
(53:22):
some did have physical issuesbecause of it.
And any, any type of dis easecauses disease and I think I've
told you it's like stresscausing ulcers.
It can cause anything.
And the longer you go, thelonger you hold onto things,
longer you hold on to things andyou understand all that.
And you're lucky that youhaven't gone through the boot up
(53:45):
the keister clean podcast.
So I'm not going to say it likeI normally.
You didn't fight it, you wentwith it and you had someone
there.
I was lucky in that regards too.
Dan Ramsay (53:58):
But I will say this, too lucky on that in that
regards too.
But I will say this though, too, I I had some pretty pretty
significant physical uh thingscome about uh during all of this
onset.
I had a vasectomy that wasbotched um.
That, to even to this day, I'mstill in physical pain.
You, you know it's five yearslater now, so actually four and
(54:20):
a half.
I lost 65 pounds during thatthat year and a half span.
When COVID hit, um, a lot of itwas intentional Um.
I started recognizing, uh, theeffect that fasting had on my
connection to source, myconnection to God.
(54:42):
So fasting became a prettyregular part of my life, and it
still is to this day, and it'smainly for spiritual purposes,
and when I say spiritualpurposes, it's like the desire
to eat.
That's a reminder for me toconnect to god, or connect to
source, or connect to my creator.
(55:03):
Um, and then I also giving up.
It's like giving up um somethingthat you feel you need in order
to receive something from thedivine that you really yes, yes,
yes, yes, yes, and I don't knowif you want to call them
upgrades or downloads or what,but I do think that God operates
(55:27):
in ways that we think we cantry to understand.
But sometimes the answer iswithin.
In fact, I think a lot of timesit's within and we just need to
get out of our own way.
When I don't eat, I get out ofmy own way.
I allow my body to restore andregenerate and recoup and do the
things that God intended for itto do so and that, like I said,
(55:50):
I think that.
So, as part of that path we talka little bit about, like some
of these transformations I wentthrough, but like I've suffered
from migraine headaches most ofmy life, from the time I was in
second grade, I never knew whatthey were caused by.
As I started to pay a littlebit more attention to my diet, I
did recognize how certaintoxins played a role in that,
(56:13):
but I also pay attention todifferent things, like
electromagnetic fields and theresonance and some of these
things that most people may noteven know about, and I have
recognized how solar flares andelectromagnetic fields play a
significant role in my migraineheadaches, and I still don't
know what they are.
(56:34):
I don't know if they'reupgrades or downloads or
whatever maybe they are but I Ido recognize they play a role
and I think it's related to mypineal gland, but it's part of
my sensitivity, uh, that wetalked a little bit about that
high, high sensitivity, yeah, soyeah, and that's why I'm
(56:54):
wearing these blue light glasses, blue light blockers, for that
very reason, because I won'tsleep otherwise.
Jeffrey Brunk (57:01):
So it's.
I imagine you had someheadaches during the solar
flares.
You know you had.
You saw the Northern Lights butI wasn't lucky enough to.
We had cloud cover.
I know people here in Virginiathat did.
But I have a app on my phonethat shows the intensity of
solar flares and it's on a scalefrom zero to nine and I saw the
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highest at eight one day, andnine would have really been
devastating for the earth if ithad been directly, even if it
had hit satellites in its pathbut, it could have taken down a
lot, but to have it at an eightat the same time that the moon
phases were changing.
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I imagine you had some headachesand you probably felt that I
saw animals.
You know where we are.
We feed the animal, we feed allthe critters and the squirrels
were fighting like I've neverseen them before, just so
territorial and fighting,screeching and screaming, and it
was during the solar flares, inthe magnetic fields.
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You know the way it wasimpacting the magnetic fields.
In addition to the full moonthat was upcoming.
Dan Ramsay (58:13):
Right, yeah, I feel all those energies.
You know, it's one of thosethings where when I, when all
this stuff first startedhappening, I would tell myself,
like you're just going crazy.
It's like you're losing yourmind.
Man, this isn't the case, but Icould feel it, like it, it was
happening.
Because I could feel ithappening, you know, I I wasn't
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making stuff up and that's kindof where it just it went, from
thinking I was weird to beinglike I don't care because I'm
experiencing this and that justkind of what it came back to.
And I tell my wife all the timeit's like I might this probably
sounds crazy, but that guy gaveme some funky energies, or that
gal had some great energy.
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We need to definitely partnerwith them later, whatever it
happens to be.
Jeffrey Brunk (59:07):
So, because I experience it, I feel it, I know
it.
So, yeah, that knowing againand it's a truth.
And then when you feel it, thatknowing that truth, it's sort
of you know it's hard todescribe it sort of reverberates
through your body and it's likeundeniable no doubt I tell you,
I think we could talk, I know Ithink we could talk, I know.
I know we could talk for hoursand hours and hours, but we
probably should wrap this up.
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But I'd love to have you backon.
Dan Ramsay (59:29):
Oh yeah, we'll do it for sure.
Jeffrey Brunk (59:30):
I don't even think we I know we didn't touch
on a lot of these talking pointsthat you wanted to but there's
a lot of them on here.
Dan Ramsay (59:55):
But before, before we do, is there anything else
you'd like to add?
Same front use your discernment, because there's some garbage
out there, and I kind of learnedthe hard way.
Sometimes you go down certainrabbit holes that just pull you
into stuff that again it'staking away from what matters.
So just be cautious in thatregard.
Use your discernment, trustyour gut.
And then I think the otherpiece for me is just like I
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talked about earlier find a wayto reconnect to nature, whether
that's just getting out andputting your feet in the grass,
getting out and experiencing thesunshine on your bare skin,
without clothes or withoutsunscreen, or any of that.
Just live as we were supposedto.
We're so far removed from howwe were called to live this life
, and a big part of that isgetting out and experiencing
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nature and experiencing othersthrough relationship.
And I think if we can startmoving back in that direction,
where we start to rely on oneanother a little bit more, I
think we're going to be headingin the right direction.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:00:54):
Absolutely.
It's a great point with nature,especially that there's such a
disconnect.
Everything's indoors,Everything is thrown at you
through the media, throughtelevision, through electronics,
and going outside and listeningto the wind or hugging a tree
that sounds hippie-ish and notgoing to look like you know.
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But it's.
Dan Ramsay (01:01:17):
There's something to that.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:01:19):
There's something to putting your feet in the
grass without shoes and socks.
Some people now man, when I wasa kid that was spent my summers
barefoot, you know oh yeah,calluses like crazy and oh, mine
too.
Dan Ramsay (01:01:32):
My kids know how dirty my feet are kids now will
take their shoes off.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:01:38):
You know they it's gross, it's all this dirt
and like it's sad.
It's really sad.
In a lot of ways it's funny andit's sad, but it's absolutely.
You're absolutely right, youknow connecting.
Dan Ramsay (01:01:50):
Yeah, try talking to a deer.
Next time you're out in a deer,holler at him.
See what he says back.
You never know, yeah, so.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:02:01):
I do that.
Dan Ramsay (01:02:02):
I played with a Black Widow spider one time and
even named it.
You can catch me doing that,though I'm not there yet.
I'm not ready for that medicine.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:02:06):
I don't think and snakes you know I overcame a
lot of fears of I was.
I was afraid of spiders andafraid of snakes.
And now you say I've got asnake tattoo all the way up my
arm.
It's where the owl is yourguide and protector.
The snake is for me, and everyhome we've ever lived in, my
wife and I, when we first gottenthere at the door, has been a
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black snake.
Oh, wow.
Dan Ramsay (01:02:28):
That's sweet.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:02:30):
Yeah, moving things in, there's a black snake
.
That's cool, whether it wasNorthern Virginia or here in
Central Virginia, where you, ofcourse, more prominent, but I
don't see them all the time butit was right there and so I took
notice of that.
Going out in nature is the onlyway to do that.
Dan Ramsay (01:02:48):
Yeah, Well, it's got medicine.
There's medicine free andeverything, whether it's plant,
whether it's an animal, whetherit's I mean you and I talk about
it.
Like you said, we keep going onand on.
But, like, whether you hear itin a song lyrics or name it,
there's always a message outthere for you, but you just have
to be present enough to listen.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:03:07):
Yeah, that's the key is being open enough to
catch it.
Song lyrics, song that you'veheard a million times in your
life and sang along to, and allof a sudden you're singing or
you hear the song and there'sthat lyric always been in there,
cause it really means somethingright now.
Dan Ramsay (01:03:25):
Yeah, that was direct, that was really direct,
yeah, it means something totallydifferent, that's.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:03:31):
That was a big one for me when I was.
I wasn't lucky to come throughunscathed, like you, you know,
with Right no, we've talkedabout that, but songs played a
huge role and lyrics played ahuge role in my understanding of
what was going on, just likethe animals do now.
Back then it was music, and itcould be anything from Jimmy
(01:03:53):
Buffett to bands I never heardof at the time, like Cedar, and
a song called fake it, you know,spoke to me big time.
If you ever listen to song,you'll probably understand why.
But we'll let this, uh, we'lllet this rest here.
But, dan, I appreciate youcoming on if people want to
reach you.
You'd given me your x address.
(01:04:15):
Yeah, twitter yeah is that a waythat?
Dan Ramsay (01:04:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's at Farmstead Dad.
Farmstead Dad is two words.
Don't combine the D's.
There's two separate D's therein the middle.
So Farmstead Dad on X isprobably the best way.
I mean, I've got Instagram andstuff, but be honest with you, I
don't even check it.
So X is the main place.
If someone wants to jump onthere and shoot me a direct
(01:04:42):
message or whatever, I'd behappy to connect.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:04:44):
So yeah, so anyone listening, you have
questions or you're resonatingwith things, dan saying he's
open to receiving your messagesor your questions, and I know
for a fact that he will begenuine and honest in his
responses and provide as muchhelp as he can.
Take him up on that.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:04):
No doubt.
Well, Jeffrey, thank you.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate theopportunity to come on here and
be a little bit vulnerable, butalso just sharing a love, a
passion and a desire to continueto grow.
So thank you.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:05:20):
Yeah, man.
Well, thank you.
I you're more than welcome andI'm very fortunate to have found
you as as a friend.
I consider you a friend becauseit's I have a million
acquaintances, but findingsomeone that you can confide in
and talk about these things isnot that easy.
And it's a.
It's a, it's more than abrotherhood, it's like.
(01:05:41):
It's like being a family member.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:43):
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Feel the same way.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:05:46):
I'm grateful for that.
So.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:48):
Awesome.
Thanks, Jeff.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:05:49):
All right, thank you, dan.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:51):
All righty.
Hi everyone and welcome back to another episode
of the Everyday Shaman.
My name's Jeff Brunk, your hostand my guest today is Dan
Ramsey.
Dan's a great guy with anamazing story of transformation
to tell, and he's currentlyemployed as a Major League
Baseball scout and talentevaluator, grading the on-field
ability of high school andcollege athletes, as well as
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evaluating their off-fieldcharacter traits.
Prior to his time inprofessional baseball, he worked
as the field manager in playerdevelopment with a different
professional organization.
So in other words, dan was aprofessional baseball coach
Before professional baseball.
Dan was the head baseball coachat a small Christian college
for nine years, while alsoserving as an adjunct instructor
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in the kinesiology department.
Dan earned a Master of Educationin Administrative Leadership
and during his undergraduatework, studied secondary
education with endorsements inkinesiology and English as a
second language.
Dan has long had a passion forother cultures, and English as a
second language was a greatavenue for him to learn and
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create relationships with thosewho might be different than
himself.
He knew within himself that hewanted to be able to work in a
profession that putrelationships at the forefront.
Dan has been happily marriedfor 13 years and has four
children two girls ages 8 and 11and two boys ages 6 and 4.
Oh, and let's not omit the twogolden retrievers.
So, basically, dan and his wifehave six children.
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He and his family live on asmall one-acre farm in the
beautiful Pacific Northwest andraise chickens, grow plums,
pears, apples, raspberries,blueberries and strawberries, as
well as cultivating as manyvegetables as they can in the
family's garden.
All of this seems like a lot,but it's just the tip of the
iceberg.
Like so many others, 2020 drewa line in the sand between the
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old Dan and the new Dan.
The global pandemic opened hiseyes to the corruption of evil
in our world and caused him toembark on a journey that has
enlightened him in ways he'dnever imagined, including
increased curiosity and thinkingfor himself, while gaining an
incredible amount of knowledge.
So welcome, dan, to the podcast.
Glad to have you here.
Dan Ramsay (02:12):
Awesome, jeff.
Thanks for having me.
Super excited to be here, sure.
Jeffrey Brunk (02:16):
You've got said tip of the iceberg.
There's so much to your storyoutside of baseball and I'm
really interested to hear moreabout how 2020, the pandemic it
changed so many people, openedso many people's eyes.
And it's especially great tohear that coming from a male,
and I've said this in my debutpodcast that it's not a common
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thing for men to come forwardand admit they started seeing
things in a new way.
It's a form of enlightenment Ina lot of ways.
People see that or hear thatword and they think new, agey
things and that's not the way itis and I know how it was for a
lot of others and I imagine itwas sort of the same way for you
.
Dan Ramsay (02:59):
Yeah, very, very much so and I think, as part of
that, maybe being male, being alittle more insecure about being
vulnerable with others, but forme it really started just prior
to 2020.
You know, you mentioned earlier, I have four children my oldest
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daughter, my oldest daughter.
We were having a reallydifficult time with her.
She was highly emotional,highly sensitive, struggling to
cope with many things that wedidn't think it didn't come
across as normal and we werestruggling for answers.
My wife and I, we came across aterm and I'm not big on labels
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but we came across a term calledthe highly sensitive
personality trait and, as we'veread about it, as we researched
it, a lot of what we werereading and I'm sure we've seen
a lot of them A lot of timesit's a hook to try to get you to
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give them an email address fora product or whatever it happens
to be.
But this quiz was a quiz aboutthe highly sensitive personality
trait and I sat down with myfive-year-old at the time and
asked her a lot of the questionsand some of them I had to
answer for her because shecouldn't really articulate it.
Her a lot of the questions andsome of them I had to answer for
her because she couldn't reallyarticulate it.
But I started to see thispattern of things where I
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thought this has got to be somesort of gimmick because I would
answer the same thing to justabout every one of these.
So I went to my mom, I calledmy mom and said Mom, I'm going
to run some questions by youreal quick and just curious what
you're going to answer.
And I gave my mom the same quizand it was a 20 question quiz
and it basically said that ifyou answer yes to more than nine
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of the questions, that youlikely have the highly sensitive
personality trait.
And, like I said, I think Ianswered 19 out of the 20 to yes
and I thought that'sinteresting.
My daughter was the same, butwhen I asked my mom she only
answered four of the 20.
Yes and it I was taken aback.
And then I went to my wife andI asked her the same questions
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and same thing.
I was dumbfounded.
I didn't realize that otherpeople weren't affected by
things the same way that I was,and this is, as a 35,
36-year-old man, learningsomething new about myself.
So, as I said, it kind of- itcame about in such an offhanded.
Jeffrey Brunk (05:34):
I mean, you're doing this for your daughter,
trying to figure this out, andthen you find something out
about yourself.
The way these things happensometimes is amazing, oh and
yeah.
Dan Ramsay (05:45):
So that was kind of what got the ball rolling to
this idea that maybe there wasmore to me than I knew, if that
makes sense.
You know, shortly after that mywife and I decided that we
wanted to bring a foreignexchange student into our home.
You mentioned earlier that Ihad a passion for other cultures
and my wife does as well.
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So the idea of bringing astudent from a different part of
the world into our home wasreally exciting.
We thought it would be good forour children.
So we had an exchange studentfrom South Korea.
She was awesome, we had a goodtime with her.
But I recognized really, reallyquickly that I had some pretty
unhealthy traits in regards topeople pleasing.
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I think when you're in your ownhome, under your own roof, you
kind of can be yourself, andthen when you have a stranger in
the home, we tend to sometimesmaybe put on a mask or act in a
certain way that we want othersto perceive us.
And I recognized really quicklywith a stranger in our home
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that I was being two verydifferent people in public
versus in private.
A lot of that centered aroundtrying to please others and it
became to the point where it wasquite unhealthy because I
wasn't taking care of myself andthis is something, jeff, you
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and I have talked about in thepast.
But the ability to retreat, todisappear when you might need to
, to seek out solitude in thosetimes where maybe the energies
are just a bit too high andreally all you need is some time
alone.
And this is still a challengeof mine.
I have four kids, so obviouslymy house is packed and there's
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also some shame and guiltinvolved when you just want to
say, hey, I'm out, guys, I needa break.
Honey, you can hang out withall four of them for a bit.
So always continuing challengesand obviously I feel like I've
experienced so much growth inthis process.
But kind of back to that story.
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I started to really dive intowho I was and kind of what made
me tick and started to realizethat I had some ugly traits.
I had some good traits and somepositive traits, but I had some
other things too that I neededto face and you know, that's
kind of how the process startedfor me.
I stumbled across themeditation and journeying and
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shamanism in a much differentway, but it all leads back to my
daughter, and it was actuallyhow I was introduced to you,
jeff.
You know we were struggling withher behavior and her
sensitivities and some of herhigh emotions and again I was
starting to uncover some of thisin myself.
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My mother-in-law she's a bit ofan esoteric thinker I guess you
could call her that but I meanshe does like remote healing and
muscle testing and some thingslike that, so she's more
open-minded.
She just reached out and saidhey, maybe you should try to
have somebody do a shamanicjourney on your daughter's
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behalf, and the man sherecommended was you.
So I emailed you.
Yeah, yeah, I emailed you.
Jeffrey Brunk (09:15):
Curiously.
How did she find me?
Dan Ramsay (09:18):
You know what I have no idea, I have no idea, but
obviously it was divine.
So, yeah, I reached out to you,you did a journey on her behalf
and I was it was.
I didn't even know what ashamanic journey was.
Honestly, it was right aroundthe time that there was like the
January 6th capital deal andthere was a shaman on TV who had
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like US flag.
So it was the first time I'dever even heard the term before.
I hated that.
I hated that.
I do now.
Jeffrey Brunk (09:51):
You know, like you, I'm not big on labels and
when it was my editor when I waswriting my memoir that wanted
to call the book the everydayshaman and I didn't want to call
myself a shaman.
I think it's a very reveredprofession and there's a history
to it.
Just like I eschew titles, Idon't want to be called a Reiki
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master.
It's an ego thing to me.
Dan Ramsay (10:19):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, I agree.
Jeffrey Brunk (10:21):
Yeah, but it's at the same time what people
search for when they're lookingfor help.
So, yeah, I'd really beinterested to know how, how she
found me across country likethat.
But yeah, yeah, I've had otherpeople and actually stories
across borders because she'sCanadian.
Dan Ramsay (10:38):
So, oh, wow, yeah, yeah.
So she, she found a tie and weneeded it at the time and I
needed it.
I was amazingly fascinated byyour time and I needed it.
I was amazingly fascinated byyour response and what you
shared and I, shortly after that, had asked you to do a journey
on my behalf because I hadexperienced some things and some
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dreams that I couldn't quitemake sense of and I thought
maybe your insight in the spiritrealm would help that.
And what you came back to mewith was I mean, to this day,
there's no way.
There's no way you could haveknown.
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The landscape that you enteredwhen you went into your journey
was the landscape that I've hadreoccurring dreams about from
the time I was 10 years old andyou described it to a T and it
just blew my mind Like it was.
I mean I, this was a, areoccurring dream.
I've had most of my life alonga beach with a rock pier going
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out into the ocean and it's.
It's a spooky dream for me, butit's happened multiple,
multiple times and you journeyedon my behalf and you described
that place to me and it just.
It was one of those momentswhere they say like you become a
believer in something, if youwant to put it that way, it was
just like man.
There is absolutely somethingto this, because that man, this
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stranger, could not have knownthat about me.
And then to take it evenfurther, you know, as you
encountered some animals andsome different things in that
dream, they very much resonatedwith me and what I was going
through and experiencing at thattime.
So, yeah, but at the end of theday, it was all confirmation
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that I was on this path.
It wasn't necessarily by achoice, but I'm so incredibly
grateful and happy to be on it.
Jeffrey Brunk (12:39):
Well, I appreciate you sharing that with
me.
I don't have many people thatshare with me things like that.
It's like sometimes I ask mywife you know it'd be nice to
get some validation, you knowsometimes because I don't know,
from a lot of times.
So it's nice to hear that.
So I appreciate you sharing.
And this all happened after youhad done the test.
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You know you had first with youwith your daughter doing the
test, and so you were alreadyopening up your, your insights
to yourself.
How long had the dreams?
I mean, have you always hadreally vivid dreams and or
prophetic dreams or whatever?
Yeah, you know, it's.
It's pretty fascinatingactually, or prophetic dreams or
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whatever.
Dan Ramsay (13:24):
Um, how did that lead you?
You know it's.
It's pretty fascinatingactually.
Like, uh, dreams have alwaysbeen a very significant part of
my life.
I mean dating back to as longas I can remember.
I mean I remember waking up inthe morning and recalling dreams
with my dad almost daily, wherethey started to kind of get
interesting.
Interesting is interesting is,I mean, some of the earliest
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ones.
I had, like I said, thesereoccurring dreams, where I had
one where I was basicallyrunning from a volcano and my
only escape was this rock pierout into the ocean, and it
reoccurred many, many times inmy life.
I've had reoccurring dreamswhere I'm in a different time
period, but they don't I've kindof talked about this before
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they don't necessarily, theydon't feel like a normal dream.
It's almost an experience Likeyou're living in a story, yeah,
like I'm living in a story andI'm.
I can feel what the charactersare feeling and it feels like
I'm there, but I don't really.
It just there's no connectionto it.
And then you know back in it'sbeen 10 years now 2014, I lost a
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dear friend of mine in a planecrash.
It was, it was prominent news,it was all over ESPN.
He was the assistant scoutingor the assistant athletic
director at Illinois StateUniversity and he died after the
final four in a plane, aprivate plane crash.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, just a dear friend ofmine.
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And about a month after hisdeath I dreamt that I met him in
a cafe and he talked to me fora long, long time and I woke up
from that dream and I wroteeverything down that we had
discussed.
But he said some things thatjust didn't make sense to me.
He talked to me about enjoyingmirror.
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He said you're going to reallyenjoy mirror.
And I didn't know what thatmeant and I wrote that in my
notes on my phone.
Like I don't know what thatmeant, and I wrote that in my
notes on my phone, like I don'tknow what that means.
And three months later a closefriend of ours contacted me and
said hey, let's go hike CampRainier, we're going to go Mount
Rainier, we're going to hike upto base camp.
And I said cool.
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And we got up to base camp andit was named after John Muir and
we went to Camp Muir andthere's no way that I could have
known.
I didn't even know what thatwas.
I didn't know what that evenexisted, so.
Jeffrey Brunk (15:56):
Do you research the dreams after you have them?
Dan Ramsay (15:59):
You know, I hadn't at that point, but I started to.
You know, the most prominentdream I had and I honestly, I
kind of I say this is the onethat was the awakening dream,
the one that really got me wasit was 2019.
I was summoned by a greathorned owl in my sleep and it
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spooked the daylights out of me.
I mean to the point where Ididn't sleep for a couple of
days following it because itjust felt so real.
And in that dream, I let the, Ilet the owl.
It was in my hotel room.
It was in my hotel room justterrorizing me, and I let it out
and it flew out and I watchedit fly into the pine trees, me,
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and I let it out and it flew outand I watched it fly into the
pine trees.
And immediately after that Ijust felt the need to research
it.
And this is kind of, I think,where this whole path started
for me.
But the more I dug, it was likeyou know, google, right, like I
don't use Google anymore.
I used to use Google, butanyway, google.
Like, hey, what does an owldream mean?
And it's like well, nativeAmericans think it means death
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and this culture thinks it meanswisdom and darkness, and it was
just like I kind of foundmyself gravitating toward what I
wanted to hear, you know, likeoh, that's a positive thing,
I'll just stick to that.
It means a good thing, or itmeans the death of this or
whatever it happens to be, and Ikind of didn't think much of it
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.
I kind of wrote it off.
I joked about it with a fewfriends, a few family members.
My dad jokingly said that itmight be your grandma Theta
spirit, and maybe, maybe it was.
Jeffrey Brunk (17:40):
But Well, those dream, dream interpretations,
you know I after I do, you knowafter I after I do a shamanic
journey and I write up a summaryand I make it as detailed as
possible and I ask that therecipient read it, reread it,
reread it again.
Let things resonate.
Research, research, research.
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You know colors, animals,anything in there that led to
research, and let thingsresonate.
And animals like any sign.
They have flip sides to them asfar as meanings go.
So they'll have a positiveattribute and a negative
attribute.
So it's letting.
Google is terrible about thisbecause I know how, you know
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what you mean, you know you goand you want to go to the best
meaning possible.
You know, oh, this, this mustbe great.
Or if it's a, if it's an animalor a color or a dream about
death, it's automatically fearthat's instilled as all that's
that's horrible, I'm going todie, and that's not necessarily
the case.
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But in your dreams you weighboth and look at, okay, what was
the rest of the dream about?
Or if, during your daylighthours seeing an owl, okay, what
was going on when I saw the owl,what was I thinking about?
It's messages?
You're given messages throughanimals, through your dreams.
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Apparently, you get a lotthrough dreams.
I don't.
Most you're in.
You're ending up in a in a hootowl's nest, in a barn in the
middle of the Pleiadian councilor something like that.
Dan Ramsay (19:30):
Hey, I've been.
I've been to many of those, sothat's okay.
Jeffrey Brunk (19:34):
In the younger days.
Dan Ramsay (19:35):
I mean, you kind of say it, you say it perfect, like
it started as a dream and thenthey started to manifest in my
natural world.
You know, I'd know I'd be outon a hike and I'd see an owl,
and I'd go oh man, I'm not usedto seeing owls, that's cool.
I'd snap a picture.
Or I'd wake up at four o'clockin the morning and look out the
window and there'd be onesilhouetted on our, our fence.
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And or they wake me up talkingto me in the middle of mesa,
arizona, or tucson, arizona,when I'm sitting in a hotel room
.
And it's just kind of gotten tothe point now where I've just
accepted that it's a guide and ahelper and something, a
reminder that I'm not alone inthis.
Jeffrey Brunk (20:16):
So that's what I was going to say.
It's a reminder when you needit, and it's usually exactly
when you need it is when thesetype things happen, or they
appear, or you'll hear them yeah, no doubt.
Dan Ramsay (20:30):
Well, and, as you can imagine, like it's funny
looking back at it now.
It's funny at the time it wasdevastating because I thought I
was losing my mind.
You know, I thought I wasabsolutely losing my mind that I
was having this experience andthat if I brought it up to
people they thought I was awhack job.
So I just kind of kept quietabout it and just kind of went
(20:52):
along my way and you know,coming to find out it was a huge
gift.
Jeffrey Brunk (20:56):
So yeah, and being you know to score a 19 out
of a 20 on a test like that,which I don't know how they
quantify that, but still that'sdoggone high to be in the traits
of being sensitive like that.
They tend to run withinfamilies.
So to be sensitive like thatit's you.
You can't help but notice thesethings come up and, unlike a
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lot of people, you take noticeand heed the sight or the sound
and think this means somethinginstead of just looking at it as
being a coincidence.
Dan Ramsay (21:33):
Yeah, no doubt.
Yeah, there's no morecoincidences.
I used to think there were, Iused to think there were.
Like I mean, you know, Jeff,you reached out last Saturday
and just said, hey, I'm reallykind of feeling a push and a
call to, to get this thingrolling.
And I didn't share it with you,but I've been, I've felt the
(21:54):
exact same way, you know.
So to hear that and have thatconfirmation or that
synchronicity or thatcoincidence that we were both
kind of feeling that nudge ishow I kind of follow truth, you
know that's.
It just feels right.
Jeffrey Brunk (22:11):
So yeah, and I don't think I mentioned to you
that when I was reaching out topeople and I mentioned to you
about the other person that Iused to work with at
organization media organizationthe day I reached out to her,
she had her phone in her handreaching out to me at the same
(22:31):
time.
My message came through andshe's never reached out to me.
I mean, we're Facebook friendsand all this, but she's never
messaged me about things and forher to do that, I've had that
happen so many times, even withtrying to get people interested
in the podcast or peoplecontacting me.
Everyone hears about thestories of oh, I picked my phone
(22:52):
up to call you right before youknow you called me and that's
not a coincidence.
There's a reason and we don'talways know what the reasoning
is.
It's like for the podcast forme.
I don't know what the end gameis for it, but I know there's an
urgency behind it to reachpeople like yourself who haven't
(23:13):
actually people that haven'tcome as far as you have, and a
lot of them being younger 20s,20s and as young as your
daughter.
Hey, they're misunderstood andit's frightening for them.
Dan Ramsay (23:31):
Yeah, well, it scared the dickens out of me.
I needed somebody normal likeme to be able to share about
these things, and I hate to sayit in that regard, but I think
you know what I mean when Inever had anybody to lean on in
(23:52):
this whole process.
I still don't feel that way attimes.
I'm fortunate, Like I mentioned, my mother-in-law earlier.
I'm fortunate that she raisedher daughter, because when I
brought a lot of this to my wife, you know, I think a lot of
times when people go upon thispath and I know you and I have
discussed this they tend to losea lot of their loved ones, they
(24:15):
lose a lot of friends and theylose a lot of family because of
how they're perceived andbecause my wife was raised with
a mom who was more open-mindedand more of an open thinker, I
think my wife valued thosetraits.
So when I brought these thingsto her, my wife valued those
traits.
Um, so when I brought thesethings to her, she didn't see
(24:36):
them in a negative light and Ijust I feel incredibly fortunate
.
Um, you know, these are a lotof what I'm discussing with you
and I shared this like beingvery vulnerable here, Like I
haven't had a lot of theseconversations with some of the
people closest to me in my life.
Um, for that fear, um, for thefear of of losing them, but I'm
being vulnerable now.
So here we are.
Jeffrey Brunk (24:58):
I looked at it and I understand that fear and I
think it's absolutely necessaryto have at least one person
that understands and I'm curiousabout with your wife as far as
people are afraid or they, Idon't.
It's not a believing in what'sunseen, but it's when you start
talking about things that areunseen and you know on whether
(25:23):
it's on this realm, which I callthe now, or the upper realms,
lower realms, wherever it may be.
Dan Ramsay (25:28):
So she's open to understanding that or, having a
con, she's not justautomatically blocking it out
yeah, no 100 and and, like Isaid, I think it's because I
mean it's, it's, it'sfascinating really, but just
some of the stories I can sharewith my mother-in-law.
Like when I first met mymother-in-law and I hope kathy
(25:49):
listens to this podcast but whenI first met her I thought she
was batshit crazy.
I just did, I just thought shewas nuts.
Um, I mean she was.
She was doing some testing onus to make sure that certain
supplements would be okay for usand she was balancing her hands
and I just thought it wasinsane.
But I went along with it becauseI love my wife and you know.
(26:22):
But I went along with it becauseI love my wife and you know,
over time, like I was the crazyone for not seeing it and not
recognizing it for what it was,because I mean you had to be
ready wizard, like man.
That guy's a wizard, he's gotsome, he's got some magic to him
, like my mother-in-law is thatway and she's she's fascinating
and what she's able to uncoverand what she's able to help with
, and I mean she's a healer,she's a light worker, I mean
(26:43):
whatever you want to call it.
Like she's it and and I seethat now, but my wife's known it
and seen it all along.
So I think when I brought someof these things to her, this
different way of thinking this,that in many, many ways was like
completely opposite of whatboth of us grew up seeing and
believing most of our lives.
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She was open to it and, youknow, fortunately I've been able
to maintain a connection to myfaith.
If you want to call it faith,you know I like to call it a
knowing.
Jeffrey Brunk (27:15):
Now, that's what I call it.
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Ramsay (27:19):
But it's, you know, it's just this.
I have this knowing andunderstanding that a lot was
manipulated.
You know, there is many, manytruths and I was brought up in
many, many truths but there wasa lot that was manipulated and
changed.
And I think when I learned that, when I learned that, it really
(27:39):
flipped the script for mebecause you know, I was, I read
the Bible from cover to cover in2018, every single day and I
journaled on what I read everysingle day.
And then, in 2020, I learnedthat the Bible was canonized by
the Roman Catholic church and itwas edited many, many times
(28:02):
prior to that and after that,and it was just like I started
to just thirst for thisknowledge of what was hidden and
I wanted to know why it washidden.
And I don't know it all and Istill don't, and, but I'm sure,
interested in finding out.
So I'm just going to keepdigging and keep following my
(28:22):
curiosities.
Jeffrey Brunk (28:23):
So well, you know where I stand on this.
I mean, I grew up in the churchtoo.
Dan Ramsay (28:29):
Yeah.
Jeffrey Brunk (28:30):
And I searched and searched and I always
wondered why people came out allhappy and happy and, oh well,
they've given their life toJesus and so their sins are
forgiven.
And I remember for years andyears I mean since I was a small
kid trying to get that feelingthat I saw on the faces of
people coming out of the church,and years later I started
(28:53):
seeing a lot of the hypocrisybehind it.
It wasn't okay, they're happy.
There was a mask in church.
You look at the actualceremonial things or the rituals
in church.
It's basically a show, butbehind the curtain and scenes
it's not pretty and I was partof that, just trying to find
(29:16):
that same thing and watching thepeople sitting in the pews
reciting the Lord's prayer, butdoing it as Father in heaven.
It's just sort of going throughthe motions.
And with what I do and withwhat the things that you do, you
know how important intention is.
And so focused intention is is.
(29:39):
It doesn't matter if you'rehealing with singing bowls or
Reiki or shamanic work orwhatever it may be, or just
sitting in church and prayingfor someone.
If your intention is focused,you get results.
Dan Ramsay (29:55):
You are so spot on man.
Jeffrey Brunk (29:57):
That's awesome and it's setting everything else
about yourself aside Say you'repraying, or if I'm working for
someone else on their behalf,setting all of that aside for
however long it is for, say, ashamanic journey or a Reiki
session or still human, it comesback.
Still have to live in thisworld, but setting it aside.
(30:18):
But to watch the people inchurch just kind of go through
the motions and for me it waswatching the first 20 minutes of
every church service beingabout the financials.
And then going to the plate.
Before anything else, beforethe first hymn.
It was so eye-opening and Iknow there are good people that
(30:41):
are very spiritual, that go tochurch and I'm not going off on
that.
But there's so much too, likeso many that wear those masks
and that go home after churchand just kick back and play
bunko and get drunk and you know.
But they've done their duty,they've gone to church for an
hour or two and Right, well, andI think their new dresses and
(31:04):
suits and I think I'll I'll.
Dan Ramsay (31:06):
I'll leave a couple of comments here and I think it
kind of ties back to whereyou're at with everything, I
think.
First I was fortunate I had afather.
My dad was a man who he talkedabout faith in a manner of
relationship.
It was all to him it was aboutrelationship and he lived that
(31:28):
out and to him, you know, goingto church made him a Christian
just as much as standing in agarage made him a car.
You know, that was just kind ofhow my dad operated.
So I was fortunate to have that.
But on the flip side of that Ihad a very spiritually devout
mother who you know, believedthat angels entered the room
when someone was dying and shecould see him and hear him
(31:49):
singing.
So I kind of had some differentperspectives there.
In regards to the quote unquotechurch, you know I have a.
Really, even though I grew uplike this on the surface I look
like this just, you know, whitecountry boy, because that's how
I grew up on a wheat ranch andcattle farm.
Like that's what I look like onthe surface, but like I have
(32:11):
some pretty fascinating diversebackground experiences, whether
that be in the DominicanRepublic with voodoo or that be
in the hypocrite Catholic church.
When I went to my first coupleof years of college because I
went to a Jesuit school myfather his entire side of the
(32:33):
family is LDS or Mormon, so Ihave a lot of different
perspectives.
My very best friend in life isNative American.
He's a Spokane tribe.
So for me, I've had thesewonderful experiences.
I've sat in a sweat lodge inthe Lakota tradition experiences
(32:55):
I've sat in a sweat lodge inthe Lakota tradition.
I've had these wonderfulexperiences that have allowed me
to see that all of thesedifferent spiritual practices
are an avenue to connect to ourCreator and to recognize common
ground in that and to not fallfor the divide and conquer that
is thrown at us in every way,shape and form bunker that is
thrown at us in every way, shapeand form.
Jeffrey Brunk (33:16):
That's a great way to look at it, and it's the
best way to look at it, becauseit's no matter the religion or
the ceremonial aspects of it atthe heart of it all is the
divine.
Whether it's Native AmericanChristian, whether it's Islam,
there is a central aspect ofeverything, and to see the
division that's caused by ohwell, you're not Christian,
(33:37):
you're going to hell, or youknow Native Americans, look at
the world.
The earth is their church.
Dan Ramsay (33:42):
That's the way I look at it.
Jeffrey Brunk (33:43):
The link outside.
Dan Ramsay (33:44):
That's my church there's so much I love about it
and here and, yeah, I resonate.
Jeffrey Brunk (33:49):
Native American traditions resonate very, very
strongly with me.
But the underlying tenets andas far as organized religion
goes, that is where, like you,were mentioning the Bible and
the many times it's been edited.
There's a reason for that and Ithink you'll agree control
power and money and power andmoney.
(34:12):
And if you look at even today,if you look at it, everything
that's said coming from apolitician is either based in
the first half of the Bible,which is the Torah, or the
vengeful God, the wrathful God,or it's revelation.
So the red words that Yeshua,as he's presented himself to me,
(34:34):
spoke, they're overlooked.
The acceptance, the love whichI love to me is a four-letter
word, because you can love pizza, you can love people, you can
love a car, you can loveanything.
Acceptance is a better term forit.
But that's all overlooked.
It's more of going straight tosay Isaiah or something from the
first half of the book, the OldTestament, and then capping the
(34:57):
whole book off with pure fearmongering.
Even though it wasn't writtento be taken literally, it does
instill fear in so many people.
So to take the New Testament,which is so much you know, it's
the flip side of the OldTestament, but end it back on an
Old Testament note, so to speak.
Dan Ramsay (35:18):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know what it comes back to
for me.
Is this?
Simply, if we're going to takethe story of Christ, is the Son
of God right?
If we're going to take thatstory?
I'm a father, I have children,I know what it means to love,
and if my creator loves me likeI love my children, there's no
way I could ever condemn them tohell.
(35:40):
So that's just.
That's where it comes back tofor me.
Jeffrey Brunk (35:45):
Yeah, I believe that creator lives right inside
of each of us.
Dan Ramsay (35:49):
Oh, there is no question.
Yep, there is no question, I'mright there with you.
Oh, there is no question.
Yeah, there is no question, I'mright there with you.
Jeffrey Brunk (35:56):
We're on the same page.
I've even read where Yeshua wasconsidered a shaman in his time
.
Dan Ramsay (36:05):
And a lot of what he did was left out of the New
Testament.
I'm actually digging in on thatstuff right now.
I'm reading about the lostyears of Jesus and it's so
fascinating and it makes so muchsense and I have so many
synchronicities or coincidenceswhere this idea of Jesus as
shaman or Yeshua as medicine manor witch doctor or whatever you
(36:27):
want to call it, you called mea witch doctor.
Jeffrey Brunk (36:31):
Hey, you're a wizard, whatever you want to
call it.
Dan Ramsay (36:34):
Like I said, it's to me it's all in the same.
I mean it's.
We're healers, you know.
Jeffrey Brunk (36:41):
and Christ says that I think it was in John Like
he says we're going to dogreater things than him, and I
think there is a time comingsoon where we're going to have
to and I believe that's part ofthe reason you are emerging very
quickly now and so many youngerpeople are, and for my doing
(37:02):
this because I am not one tolike to speak and have my photo
taken even so to step outsidecomfort zones.
I step big, big time out of mycomfort zone writing my book
because I thought the same thing.
People are going to think I'mnuts.
This is not the Jeff of old.
You know where's that, that guy, you know totally different.
(37:23):
It's like I told you.
I didn't become pious by anystretch of the imagination, but
everything sort of shifted inperspective for me and I believe
you, the the same has happenedfor you.
It's like you were saying a lotof your interests had changed
and things that seemed to beimportant or you thought were
(37:45):
worth pursuing suddenly justweren't.
Dan Ramsay (37:48):
Yeah, so much.
So, yeah, it's a smack in theface really, I think, just kind
of.
What it comes back to is is youstart to value things in a much
different way.
You know, like I value myhealth so much differently now
than I used to and I just see itin such a different perspective
.
I was thinking about this as Iwas going on to the podcast,
(38:13):
like I would have never imaginedI'd been on a podcast like this
not in my entire life, you know.
I just never.
I'm so happy to be because it'sit feels like this is what's
worth pursuing.
You know, and I have no ideahow I'm ever going to make money
doing this and I'll probablyhave to continue to find a way
to survive in the regular world.
(38:35):
But man, this is like it's allI.
Jeffrey Brunk (38:39):
I'm just so fascinated by it and I'm so
interested in it and it's, butyou have so much you have the
trust, you know, you know thedifference between trusting and
wanting and or needing andwanting, trusting and wanting
and or needing and wanting, andthat what you need will come to
you one way or another.
(38:59):
You have that trust and thatstems, I think, from both your
faith, from your lifetime andwhat you know, the knowings that
you have now, yeah, and but itdoesn't ease the anxiety, not
anxiety necessarily, but theconcerns about how I can't do
this full time.
But maybe you can.
(39:20):
You just never how things playout.
We don't know.
I wish I journeyed and asked adirect question, I'd get a
direct answer.
But they don't work that way.
I mean either way, and it makessense, because if they gave
direct answers, if we kneweverything, then what's the
point?
But you never know where tolead you.
(39:40):
Now, when you started doing thefarming they're doing, you know
, growing the vegetables, doingthe gardening was this after all
of this had happened, or youhad?
You've been doing that before,so you know, yeah, great, great
question.
Dan Ramsay (39:53):
So in 2019, like November 2019, I don't know why
this is, but I was alwaysfascinated by, like quote
unquote, conspiracy theories,but I never really delved into
them too much, but I rememberreading one, like in 2015.
I used to get up in the morning, I'd get on Yahoo and I'd go
(40:16):
look at like conspiracy theorieson Yahoo and I remember reading
one that said the world wasgoing to be masked.
And I remember reading that,thinking to myself yeah right,
there's no way in heck anyonewould ever go along with that.
And I just remember brushing itoff.
Heck anyone would ever go alongwith that.
(40:37):
And I just remember brushing itoff.
And then, when covet hit andthey started to institute that
stuff, I I just I remember itlike it was, like I just just
read it and I thought, oh, mygoodness, what's going on here?
And I started worrying aboutWorld War III and the end of the
world and I fell down all thosetough rabbit holes where I fell
(41:00):
for the fear right, the fearporn, I guess you'd call it and
I thought you know what I've gotto learn to be self-sustainable
.
So I planted carrots in mybackyard that was the extent of
it and I'd read a meme somewherethat said if you want to show
your children a miracle, plant agarden.
And I thought that was kind ofcool.
(41:21):
I thought the idea of that wascool.
So I planted carrots and lo andbehold, when they all grew and
I pulled them out of the ground,I was amazed by it.
I saw the miracle.
I ate them after I washed themand they were the best tasting
carrots I'd ever had.
And I, the next day, Icompletely cut up half of our
(41:41):
quarter acre lot and put in fourplanter boxes, without my
wife's permission.
The next year we hadraspberries and cucumbers and
zucchinis and carrots and.
I'd never done anything.
It was just a completeexperiment.
I didn't know what I was doing,it was just me fooling around
(42:02):
with it.
And then a year later we soldour beautiful brand new home in
a cookie cutter neighborhoodwith a quarter acre lot.
In my little tiny garden, wereyou on a cul-de-sac.
We wanted to be but we weren't.
But we were right next to apark and we sold that and we
(42:25):
bought a 1950s farmhouse on oneacre.
That has been nothing butheadaches in regards to the work
it's caused, but I've learnedso much we went from hiding one
chicken because, um, because ofour HOA, to now we have 20 of
them.
Um, you know, we feed our kidshealthy food.
They're connected to wheretheir food comes from.
Um, and I think, honestly, Ithink that's so essential when
(42:47):
it comes to our health and whenwe want to be spiritually
connected, because it is a mind,body, soul thing, when we want
to be spiritually connected,because it is a mind, body, soul
thing.
It's a native american thing too.
It is 100, and so beingconnected to our food is is a
priority for my wife and I whenit comes to raising our kids.
Um, you know, we are fortunateto live in a place where our
(43:09):
water is clean.
Um, it's free of fluoride,which we're thankful for.
We're fortunate to live in aplace where we can still
purchase raw milk.
So being able to go to thegrocery store and purchase raw
milk and then drive 45 minutesand show my kids the dairy farm
where it came from, I thinkthere's something really
important in that, and I want tomake sure that those are
(43:33):
traditions and those don't diewith my generation, because in a
lot of places they already have.
Oh yeah absolutely.
Jeffrey Brunk (43:43):
You know, money drives everything and
unfortunately, because Iremember when we were traveling
around the country, goingthrough I believe it was Texas,
and just seeing the cattle yardsand the small calves that had
been, you know, I said there'sthe veal and there's the beef
and just it was almost broughttears to my wife's eyes, but it
(44:08):
was just so disheartening.
But to do things the old way Iknow I have friends here that do
that, not just with food butwith building different types of
shelters, or they use the oldtools and that's the way they
live, I think it's so cool.
Dan Ramsay (44:25):
I think it's so cool I don't know that I'm quite
ready to go full blownhomesteading.
I'll be honest.
I've jokingly said I think theAmish have it figured out, but
one of these days we might makethat move.
(44:45):
I don't know.
I have this little itch, thislittle desire to do a retreat
center someday in Costa Rica orsomething.
But I'm sure there's a lot ofother people with that pipe
dream.
So we're going to start wherewe are for now.
Jeffrey Brunk (44:55):
You had mentioned wanting to be because you've
gone through the first twolevels of your Reiki training.
Yeah, yeah, I got myattunements in Reiki one and two
, so and mentioned possiblywanting to do a retreat or not
do one, but to actually open one.
Dan Ramsay (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be fun.
I or not do one, but toactually open one, yeah, yeah, I
think it'd be fun.
I feel a call to that.
I mean, I think my greatestcall at this point in life is I
just I want to help peoplereconnect to nature because I
think it's so incrediblyimportant for our emotional,
physical, spiritual, socialhealth.
(45:32):
We need to be connected tonature and I've learned that
just through experimentation.
Like I said, you know I washaving, I've had so many
injuries in my body throughoutthe years that you know, even
though I'm still rather young asa 38 year old, I feel like I'm
60.
So I've, you know, groundingand trying to wait a minute.
Jeffrey Brunk (45:54):
I'm 60.
What does that mean?
Dan Ramsay (45:55):
No, no, I didn't mean that.
Age is just a number.
Jeffrey Brunk (46:01):
So that's right, I'm 16 on the inside.
There you go.
No, it's um.
You know the oh, where was Igoing to retreat?
That's one of the reasons whenwe, when we were traveling the
country I believe I mentionedthat my wife had always,
everywhere we stopped, we went24 states and every time we went
across state lines she was onZillow, looking, looking,
(46:23):
because we had lived in Virginiaand she had lived in Virginia
for over 30 years and I was alittle under 30 years.
I didn't want to come back toVirginia and I didn't want to go
to North Carolina.
I grew up there and I thought,okay, been there, done that.
And I believe it was Californiawhere this house kept showing up
, the one that we ended upbuying sight unseen on a
Thanksgiving day in Biloxi,mississippi, and it had it
(46:46):
checked all the boxes and, oddlyenough, tying into the dreams,
two or so years before we'd eventraveled, we'd each had a dream
not in consecutive nights orthe same night about this house
in this land.
I had one about the land bridgeit goes over a creek, driving
over that, and she had one,because we live on a cliff, it's
(47:07):
over a river.
She had dreams about that andthis is the exact house and it's
on Native American land, theMonacans, and it's nearby where
what's called Point of Fork,where the Cherokee and the
Seminole and Iroquois and allthese.
There were ceremonies held halfa mile from where we are, I
believe on the land where we are.
(47:29):
Don't know exactly what theceremonies were, but we were
drawn here and my wife has thisgift of the land calling to her,
and it's not the first timeit's done that You're sort of
taken to where you need to be,when you need to be there, sort
of like getting the signs, andthen when it's time to move on,
you know it.
Dan Ramsay (47:48):
Yeah, it's like we say it's coincidence, right?
Jeffrey Brunk (47:52):
Yeah, we're looking to make this place a
retreat, slash, refuge as welland for me to teach, and I don't
want big groups, I don't wantbig circular groups of people
sitting around and trying toteach generic things.
I want it to be more of aindividually focused type
teaching session, becauseeverybody's needs are different,
(48:14):
everybody's further along ontheir pathway or further behind
and they need somethingdifferent.
So going over a lot of basicsis really just kind of skimming
the surface.
So I want to keep it small andstill be able to have people
comfortable, because we don'thave a big place but it's very
doable.
And what would make it such agreat thing for you is having it
(48:38):
in your head that that's whatyou want and the knowing of what
you have to offer, because alot of people they kind of know
who they are, in a way theythink, but what they have to
offer they're not so sure of.
Dan Ramsay (48:53):
Right.
Jeffrey Brunk (48:54):
And so you're a rarity In a lot of ways.
You're even more so a raritybecause you're a guy who is
doing these.
You know that is doing thesethings and experiencing these
things and admitting them, andthat is and I think I told you
hundreds of people I've workedwith across the world.
Two hands I could count.
(49:15):
And out of those 10 fingers,not even five of them came to me
willingly on their own.
They were pushed or prodded bya spouse or significant other
and they weren't open really toreceiving.
And so some I could work for,some I couldn't, most I couldn't
because they were too proud.
(49:36):
Yeah, gotta be strong.
Dan Ramsay (49:38):
You know that'd have been me, probably pre 2019, for
sure.
Either that or just scared ofit, so yeah.
Jeffrey Brunk (49:48):
Yeah, the scary part is is when you start
recognizing the things aboutyourself and accepting them and
it starts changing you.
It's scary.
Change is scary for everybody.
But to change as a person andstart questioning everything you
thought you knew about yourselfand the world and what it's
(50:10):
taught you, and looking at itdifferently and seeing it for
what it is, as opposed to whatyou've always considered it to
be, even if it was considered atall at the time.
Dan Ramsay (50:19):
Right.
Jeffrey Brunk (50:20):
It's a scary thing and on the flip side of
that you have sort of aknowledge that it's going to be
all right.
You know, when you accept thattruth about yourself, it really
sort of settles you.
Dan Ramsay (50:36):
It does.
Yeah, I mean I can't, I can'teven begin to worry.
Wart is like the, what I usedto get called.
I mean I, I feared everythingmy whole life, my entire life.
I mean up until I was 35, 36years old, up until I started to
have these experiences.
It was, you know.
(50:57):
My parents are coming to pickmy kids up, to take them out to
their house, and I'm thinkingabout the car accident they're
going to be on the way out totheir place.
Like that was just how Ioperated and it just was so
unhealthy and I never even Ididn't even recognize that about
myself until I've kind of madethe shift.
And now, when I and again, I'mnot perfect, so when I find
(51:19):
those thoughts starting to popup into my head or whatever,
it's a little easier for me togo whoa, where's that coming
from?
This ain't me.
And having to look at it,recognize it, yeah for sure.
Jeffrey Brunk (51:33):
That's very important, that you recognize it
and you stop it and then yousee it for what it is and I say
you embrace it.
I call it the shadow.
The darker parts and you embracethem and you use them to face
the even darker things that maycome your way.
Because these fears, I callthem what ifs and when we first
(51:55):
moved in here I had you know.
We're down in the woods on acliff, quarter mile driveway
surrounded in the forest, and Ihad the what ifs.
It petrified me to think a treeis going to fall across the
driveway.
How are we going to get out?
We're 30 minutes in anydirection from a supermarket or
anything, you know, and I wasparalyzed by it.
(52:17):
I was brain extremely tiredbecause it was a whirlwind trip
around the country and we movedin here and right after we moved
in COVID struck and thequarantines started.
So the timing was notcoincidental.
We got in here when we did, butit still was scary.
And not long after thequarantine started is when I
(52:37):
started getting the and I wasn'treally advertising.
I don't advertise myself, youknow it's like I know people
will come and find me somehow.
I had business cards made.
I didn't.
I never give them out.
My wife did, but it wasn'tCOVID that people were
contacting me about.
None of them had COVID.
It was emotional and stressful.
(53:00):
It was like they were startingto without everything going on,
without all the chaos and staticof life, going to work and
sitting in traffic, whatever itmay be.
They were starting to hearthose little whispers that are
always there.
Instead of hearing the outsideworld coming at them, they were
hearing the inside voices and itscared the crap out of them and
(53:22):
some did have physical issuesbecause of it.
And any, any type of dis easecauses disease and I think I've
told you it's like stresscausing ulcers.
It can cause anything.
And the longer you go, thelonger you hold onto things,
longer you hold on to things andyou understand all that.
And you're lucky that youhaven't gone through the boot up
(53:45):
the keister clean podcast.
So I'm not going to say it likeI normally.
You didn't fight it, you wentwith it and you had someone
there.
I was lucky in that regards too.
Dan Ramsay (53:58):
But I will say this, too lucky on that in that
regards too.
But I will say this though, too, I I had some pretty pretty
significant physical uh thingscome about uh during all of this
onset.
I had a vasectomy that wasbotched um.
That, to even to this day, I'mstill in physical pain.
You, you know it's five yearslater now, so actually four and
(54:20):
a half.
I lost 65 pounds during thatthat year and a half span.
When COVID hit, um, a lot of itwas intentional Um.
I started recognizing, uh, theeffect that fasting had on my
connection to source, myconnection to God.
(54:42):
So fasting became a prettyregular part of my life, and it
still is to this day, and it'smainly for spiritual purposes,
and when I say spiritualpurposes, it's like the desire
to eat.
That's a reminder for me toconnect to god, or connect to
source, or connect to my creator.
(55:03):
Um, and then I also giving up.
It's like giving up um somethingthat you feel you need in order
to receive something from thedivine that you really yes, yes,
yes, yes, yes, and I don't knowif you want to call them
upgrades or downloads or what,but I do think that God operates
(55:27):
in ways that we think we cantry to understand.
But sometimes the answer iswithin.
In fact, I think a lot of timesit's within and we just need to
get out of our own way.
When I don't eat, I get out ofmy own way.
I allow my body to restore andregenerate and recoup and do the
things that God intended for itto do so and that, like I said,
(55:50):
I think that.
So, as part of that path we talka little bit about, like some
of these transformations I wentthrough, but like I've suffered
from migraine headaches most ofmy life, from the time I was in
second grade, I never knew whatthey were caused by.
As I started to pay a littlebit more attention to my diet, I
did recognize how certaintoxins played a role in that,
(56:13):
but I also pay attention todifferent things, like
electromagnetic fields and theresonance and some of these
things that most people may noteven know about, and I have
recognized how solar flares andelectromagnetic fields play a
significant role in my migraineheadaches, and I still don't
know what they are.
(56:34):
I don't know if they'reupgrades or downloads or
whatever maybe they are but I Ido recognize they play a role
and I think it's related to mypineal gland, but it's part of
my sensitivity, uh, that wetalked a little bit about that
high, high sensitivity, yeah, soyeah, and that's why I'm
(56:54):
wearing these blue light glasses, blue light blockers, for that
very reason, because I won'tsleep otherwise.
Jeffrey Brunk (57:01):
So it's.
I imagine you had someheadaches during the solar
flares.
You know you had.
You saw the Northern Lights butI wasn't lucky enough to.
We had cloud cover.
I know people here in Virginiathat did.
But I have a app on my phonethat shows the intensity of
solar flares and it's on a scalefrom zero to nine and I saw the
(57:24):
highest at eight one day, andnine would have really been
devastating for the earth if ithad been directly, even if it
had hit satellites in its pathbut, it could have taken down a
lot, but to have it at an eightat the same time that the moon
phases were changing.
(57:44):
I imagine you had some headachesand you probably felt that I
saw animals.
You know where we are.
We feed the animal, we feed allthe critters and the squirrels
were fighting like I've neverseen them before, just so
territorial and fighting,screeching and screaming, and it
was during the solar flares, inthe magnetic fields.
(58:07):
You know the way it wasimpacting the magnetic fields.
In addition to the full moonthat was upcoming.
Dan Ramsay (58:13):
Right, yeah, I feel all those energies.
You know, it's one of thosethings where when I, when all
this stuff first startedhappening, I would tell myself,
like you're just going crazy.
It's like you're losing yourmind.
Man, this isn't the case, but Icould feel it, like it, it was
happening.
Because I could feel ithappening, you know, I I wasn't
(58:36):
making stuff up and that's kindof where it just it went, from
thinking I was weird to beinglike I don't care because I'm
experiencing this and that justkind of what it came back to.
And I tell my wife all the timeit's like I might this probably
sounds crazy, but that guy gaveme some funky energies, or that
gal had some great energy.
(58:57):
We need to definitely partnerwith them later, whatever it
happens to be.
Jeffrey Brunk (59:07):
So, because I experience it, I feel it, I know
it.
So, yeah, that knowing againand it's a truth.
And then when you feel it, thatknowing that truth, it's sort
of you know it's hard todescribe it sort of reverberates
through your body and it's likeundeniable no doubt I tell you,
I think we could talk, I know Ithink we could talk, I know.
I know we could talk for hoursand hours and hours, but we
probably should wrap this up.
(59:27):
But I'd love to have you backon.
Dan Ramsay (59:29):
Oh yeah, we'll do it for sure.
Jeffrey Brunk (59:30):
I don't even think we I know we didn't touch
on a lot of these talking pointsthat you wanted to but there's
a lot of them on here.
Dan Ramsay (59:55):
But before, before we do, is there anything else
you'd like to add?
Same front use your discernment, because there's some garbage
out there, and I kind of learnedthe hard way.
Sometimes you go down certainrabbit holes that just pull you
into stuff that again it'staking away from what matters.
So just be cautious in thatregard.
Use your discernment, trustyour gut.
And then I think the otherpiece for me is just like I
(01:00:18):
talked about earlier find a wayto reconnect to nature, whether
that's just getting out andputting your feet in the grass,
getting out and experiencing thesunshine on your bare skin,
without clothes or withoutsunscreen, or any of that.
Just live as we were supposedto.
We're so far removed from howwe were called to live this life
, and a big part of that isgetting out and experiencing
(01:00:41):
nature and experiencing othersthrough relationship.
And I think if we can startmoving back in that direction,
where we start to rely on oneanother a little bit more, I
think we're going to be headingin the right direction.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:00:54):
Absolutely.
It's a great point with nature,especially that there's such a
disconnect.
Everything's indoors,Everything is thrown at you
through the media, throughtelevision, through electronics,
and going outside and listeningto the wind or hugging a tree
that sounds hippie-ish and notgoing to look like you know.
(01:01:16):
But it's.
Dan Ramsay (01:01:17):
There's something to that.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:01:19):
There's something to putting your feet in the
grass without shoes and socks.
Some people now man, when I wasa kid that was spent my summers
barefoot, you know oh yeah,calluses like crazy and oh, mine
too.
Dan Ramsay (01:01:32):
My kids know how dirty my feet are kids now will
take their shoes off.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:01:38):
You know they it's gross, it's all this dirt
and like it's sad.
It's really sad.
In a lot of ways it's funny andit's sad, but it's absolutely.
You're absolutely right, youknow connecting.
Dan Ramsay (01:01:50):
Yeah, try talking to a deer.
Next time you're out in a deer,holler at him.
See what he says back.
You never know, yeah, so.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:02:01):
I do that.
Dan Ramsay (01:02:02):
I played with a Black Widow spider one time and
even named it.
You can catch me doing that,though I'm not there yet.
I'm not ready for that medicine.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:02:06):
I don't think and snakes you know I overcame a
lot of fears of I was.
I was afraid of spiders andafraid of snakes.
And now you say I've got asnake tattoo all the way up my
arm.
It's where the owl is yourguide and protector.
The snake is for me, and everyhome we've ever lived in, my
wife and I, when we first gottenthere at the door, has been a
(01:02:27):
black snake.
Oh, wow.
Dan Ramsay (01:02:28):
That's sweet.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:02:30):
Yeah, moving things in, there's a black snake
.
That's cool, whether it wasNorthern Virginia or here in
Central Virginia, where you, ofcourse, more prominent, but I
don't see them all the time butit was right there and so I took
notice of that.
Going out in nature is the onlyway to do that.
Dan Ramsay (01:02:48):
Yeah, Well, it's got medicine.
There's medicine free andeverything, whether it's plant,
whether it's an animal, whetherit's I mean you and I talk about
it.
Like you said, we keep going onand on.
But, like, whether you hear itin a song lyrics or name it,
there's always a message outthere for you, but you just have
to be present enough to listen.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:03:07):
Yeah, that's the key is being open enough to
catch it.
Song lyrics, song that you'veheard a million times in your
life and sang along to, and allof a sudden you're singing or
you hear the song and there'sthat lyric always been in there,
cause it really means somethingright now.
Dan Ramsay (01:03:25):
Yeah, that was direct, that was really direct,
yeah, it means something totallydifferent, that's.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:03:31):
That was a big one for me when I was.
I wasn't lucky to come throughunscathed, like you, you know,
with Right no, we've talkedabout that, but songs played a
huge role and lyrics played ahuge role in my understanding of
what was going on, just likethe animals do now.
Back then it was music, and itcould be anything from Jimmy
(01:03:53):
Buffett to bands I never heardof at the time, like Cedar, and
a song called fake it, you know,spoke to me big time.
If you ever listen to song,you'll probably understand why.
But we'll let this, uh, we'lllet this rest here.
But, dan, I appreciate youcoming on if people want to
reach you.
You'd given me your x address.
(01:04:15):
Yeah, twitter yeah is that a waythat?
Dan Ramsay (01:04:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's at Farmstead Dad.
Farmstead Dad is two words.
Don't combine the D's.
There's two separate D's therein the middle.
So Farmstead Dad on X isprobably the best way.
I mean, I've got Instagram andstuff, but be honest with you, I
don't even check it.
So X is the main place.
If someone wants to jump onthere and shoot me a direct
(01:04:42):
message or whatever, I'd behappy to connect.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:04:44):
So yeah, so anyone listening, you have
questions or you're resonatingwith things, dan saying he's
open to receiving your messagesor your questions, and I know
for a fact that he will begenuine and honest in his
responses and provide as muchhelp as he can.
Take him up on that.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:04):
No doubt.
Well, Jeffrey, thank you.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate theopportunity to come on here and
be a little bit vulnerable, butalso just sharing a love, a
passion and a desire to continueto grow.
So thank you.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:05:20):
Yeah, man.
Well, thank you.
I you're more than welcome andI'm very fortunate to have found
you as as a friend.
I consider you a friend becauseit's I have a million
acquaintances, but findingsomeone that you can confide in
and talk about these things isnot that easy.
And it's a.
It's a, it's more than abrotherhood, it's like.
(01:05:41):
It's like being a family member.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:43):
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Feel the same way.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:05:46):
I'm grateful for that.
So.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:48):
Awesome.
Thanks, Jeff.
Jeffrey Brunk (01:05:49):
All right, thank you, dan.
Dan Ramsay (01:05:51):
All righty.
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